OpTic Podcast - CANCELING THE FIRST MAJOR OF THE YEAR | OpTic Podcast Ep 101

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

This week we have HECZ, MBoZe, Zlaner and Maniac on to discuss the state of Warzone 2 and the CDL.  Go to http://manscaped.com/optic to get 20% off and free shipping.  Go to http://shopify.com/optic to sign up for a free trial and start selling online today. Download the DoorDash app and enter code OPTICPODCAST to get 50% off up to a $20 value and $0 deliver fees. Check out OpTic Nation here: https://www.nation.opticgaming.com/ Check out the OpTic Podcast here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG MB01VRXLRVBBYYQ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What? I'm so frustrated because now we're on this two-year cycle bullshit, right? And what is that going to do? Are you telling me that if we do a two-year cycle in two years for 2024, we're going to be able to see a game that is playable? Welcome. Welcome, welcome to episode 101 of the Optic podcast. This episode is brought to you by Manscape, Shopify, and DoorDash. and we'll tell you a little bit more about them in the podcast. Today is day number two of the World Cup or day three, if you consider the opening grand ceremony on Sunday. Mexico is playing against Poland right now. You say you're going from Poland? Why?

What? That's in Mexico. Who you go for, is he? Don't care. But I just don't watch it all the soccer. I can't lie. Who do you go for? Who are you going for right now?

I'll just pick Mexico. What about you? I'll be rooting for Mexico. I mean, who else is there to root for, really, if you tell you about it. The U.S.? Besides every other, what, country in the world? Yeah, look, I'm going for England. I'm going for Mexico.

I'm going for Mexico first, obviously, and then England. I mean, then U.S. and then England. Some 6% English, personally. Is this all their first matches? Yeah. Did you know that? So this is Mexico's first match? Yeah.

I could have swore I saw him playing, like, yesterday or something. Or was that USA? No, not, uh-uh. Or was that the day before? USA play. right? USA played They won.

Right? Yeah, they played. No, they haven't played. They played tomorrow. Where do they play? I swear I'd be. United States. Yeah, they played against Wales.

And then they tied. Like a day or two ago, right? They tied. No, yesterday. They tied against Wales. This is why we need somebody giving us the daily, right? The World Cup Daily by Optic. No, those in a hand.

Anyway, welcome everybody. Wanted to do this podcast because it's a state of emergency, okay? Warzone in one of the best positions. they could possibly be in ever right beautiful map incredible uh some of the movements a little bit tweaked twanky um and obviously we'll talk about that but i want to i want to touch base right as the opening act of this freaking podcast activation. Activision do you know what happened to the private lobbies i don't know what i mean i know what happened what happened what happened like i mean they just literally took out the cdl rules and like people were going to well at first it was like you have

join and then everyone would join you'd start it someone would lag out then you'd go back you'd have to keep joining you have to go through the channel because the friends list disappeared and when the update happened they just took the CDL rules out period yeah so now you have to someone

was telling me last night you have to join a pub back out go to private match host and then manually set up the rules and that's how teams are trying to practice there's no practice until the game comes out there's no practice until the first tournament.

There is no practice until Raleigh. There's no practice until December or something. And by no practice, do you mean it's not going to be ready? There's no private. No pro players can practice. There's no way for them to practice. What if they join the pub, the exit, join back, do all that.

Is there any? And if someone lags out, you got to do it again. Like, that's like, that's like taxing. So are people just chalking it and not practicing? No, no. Because after the map ends, the lobby automatically closes. Closes. So you don't have to do that shit.

every time. Yeah, and it's not a matter of the players giving up. It's a fact that Activision gave up. That's crazy. Activision gave up. The league is, what? How? How what?

What do you mean? Like, how did the... Well, you got to take into account the yes, a bunch of people put up 27 and a half. There's been an emergency. Hold on. Oh, my God. So... That's Activision.

That's Activision. Yeah. They don't want me to talk about what I'm about talking about. by button. They said, 12 teams paid. I hate fire alarm sounds. Bro,

the one at my building goes, can I have your attention, please? Can I have your attention, please? There's been emergency reported in the building. You'll ease evacuate.

And emergency is just like, anything. It's scary. Anyway, where I was at before, I was really interrupted by the building who's about to do some fire tests, and I guess we'll pause the podcast.

Anyway, I understand. Wait, who scored? Oh, no. Ew. No. No, no, no, no. Come on. Come on.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Memo. I don't know. Memo. Mammo. Vamos memo.

Mamo. Yes. Yes. Yes. Wow. So what happened? Mexico stopped the penalty kick. Damn.

Oh, Poland choked. They off the walk. Damn, Mexico. Has Mexico ever... I'm not real? As Mexico ever won a World Cup? No way, right? Port side at the...

You'd be field side. No. Fucking Castro's there. He don't got no field side. Before we were rudely interrupted by Activision, right? Because they heard what they're also about to start filling the beans, Z. So, yes, I completely understand that whatever the 12 teams invested into this league and the amount of promotion and the amount of money that we spent

on supporting the league, paying the players, you know, paying facility costs, paying travel costs to promote a video game does not outweigh the amount of money that world, I'm sorry, that the war zone brings to the table. I get that, but that is not fair. One doesn't have anything to do with the other and it shouldn't but it should and the fact that they are not even trying do you like i don't i don't understand why this is in a deafcon five sort of situation and activision says you know what we're paying everybody fucking overtime get the private lobbies back in action before hex and the boys start fucking screaming again you know scump said you know scump you know scump literally said it's like i don't care even if we win champs even if we

win i'm never playing this shit again that's really sad man we were talking about that the other day. I was saying how like, that's like a really shitty way to just be calling it quits. You know what I mean? Because the game is just like driving it to it. That blows, man. Like, that blows. The boy had more years than them, but he's just like, why? Why? Yeah. Every year, if you're just going to be dealing with the same stuff. You know, I feel bad for all the CDL players that, I don't even feel bad when they, or I don't even like, you know, the Warzone community, the CDL community, whatever. I don't even care when they get pissed off because, like, I'd be pissed off too, brother. This amount of shit they deal with and

they see war zone getting stuff. But I'm telling you, it's just all over the place, it's just absolutely chalked. It's shocked on all fronts. I was going to say, is it even running smooth at all and anything? Stuff's just shocked on all fronts, bro. We were played in 100K in the 100, well, the optics horny. It's like, it has nothing to do with the optic. Torny has to do with the game. It's just like, I crashed multiple times per series. We got to redo it from like, you got to, and it's always so corny and weird when you got to redo a series. Yeah, the mathematical problem. Yeah, you got like, Yeah, you got like maybe someone's up three kills, four kills, maybe someone lost a ghouly. Maybe you just got your loadouts.

It always screws someone up. It doesn't matter. Whether it's you or it's the other people, it's like nothing you can do about it. You got to replay the map. You got to play it from like up three or up or down four or whatever the fuck. It's like new R&G added. Oh, whether or not I'm going to crash. Whether I'm not going to crash.

Bro, literally the people were tweeting that yesterday. They were like the crashes are going to win this 2 v2, bro. Like literally. Who won? Did they? Well, no one's one. Yeah. Today's the final.

Oh, today's the final. So yeah. We start at 2.m. Got it. Yeah, you know, to me, again, it is, it is an ongoing thing. And my thing is, like, I feel like I am in a very, very, in a very, not special position, but I'm in a position that not a lot of other team owners are in, right? If you think about the amount of money that has come into this thing to support this league, like some of these team owners have never touched the game of call of duty in their lives. No shots taken here. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just,

speaking as to the reason why I should be the one that's being loud about this. Nate Schott, professional player, he owns, he understands what's going in there. But there's a lot of the hassle, obviously, been around for a long time. But I've been here since Call of Duty 2. Okay, so I've seen it from the beginning. I fell in love with the game. It changed my life. So for me to just sit here and quiet and be okay with the fact that people are spending money to promote someone's game is ludicrous to me.

And the amount of support that we're getting, this is what pisses me off. the most. The people that we talk to on a constant basis, and I don't talk to them, I haven't been on a league call in over two years. Why? Stressful? No, it's not stressful. It's just that I'm talking, no, I'm talking to people who are just getting yelled at by everyone who are just sitting there as shields for the decision makers that have something to say and do, right? So I was yelling at the people that are constantly trying to pacify the ownership group and say, hey, you know, this is why it's happening, this is better. And then they say shit like, well talking about it in a negative manner it's not going to help anything

well nothing is helping anything to begin with me saying quiet is not going to help I mean what am I supposed to just be quiet for the last couple of years as to as to I have many bones to pick with this league man I got many many bones to pick with this but this is ridiculous man we have a we have a tournament we did we we launched the game in advance so that we can start the season earlier and what do we get No league play.

Broken lobbies. I can't put on my headset and wait in a war zone lobby without the just a million voices screaming to my ear. That'd be my favorite part. I wouldn't be that voice. But them saying that like talking negatively about it, it's not going to help anything. Like I know what they, I know what they mean to an extent. But there's like negative talking like all the time negative. And then there's like actual constructive and like why is the game, why is the game in complete shambles right now?

You know what I mean? I feel like with Warzone 2, I even like mentally went into this because when I started streaming, I started streaming Fortnite and then I burnt the hell out of that game and I still decided to keep playing it for my community, my fans, whatever they wanted to watch me play it. I switched over to Warzone. Same thing. Burnt out of that after Verdance, Haiti Caldera, just did not want to compete, didn't want to play

the game. And I think a lot of that had to do with me just like always dogging on the game, always dogging, which it had a lot to dogg on, in my opinion. Yeah. But there's a time, like with the Warzone 2, I vowed to myself. I was like, I'm going to go into this. I'm going to try to just be as clear-minded as I possibly can. And they're making it real hard to do that.

You know what I mean? Because I do sometimes look at the community, like, on social media and stuff. And I'm like, you know, there's sometimes where I'm just like, dude, I don't know. There's stuff that we need to 100% be voicing our opinions on and complaining about. But then there's some times where it's just like it's too much. It's all negative. Everyone just fucking hates everything. And it's like it's.

But again, like I said, to play devil's advocate, it's like I can understand why a lot of that happens, man. It's just, it's in shambles. I will never be able to understand or what, what level of computer science it takes to put ones and zeros to create a metaverse. See, that's a thing. That allows for gravity to exist within it. That alone is just mind-blown to me in props. How was there not that much crashing and all this stuff back on just like a console? Like halo.

Yeah, like how does it just run smooth? Yeah. And how does this not? But also, as much as we talk shit about it, it's like, what if they are, what if it is super fucking complicated? Or is it not? I don't know. So it's almost like everyone complains, but it's like, I don't know. It's hard to say, unless you're a coder. I don't fucking know how it works. But it's like what a, like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how it works. So it's like sort of, I mean, I don't play. If I did play, I probably would complain about it, not stop. But that's the first thing I always think about. It's also like, what exactly is happening behind closed doors. Yeah, that's the first thing I always think about because at the end of the day, they're another company that, bro, they want to make as much money

as they possibly can. Every company here in this country. They got to kind of be freaking out behind closed doors. Why can't they just click a button and put the CDR rule set back in? That's the question that's at hand, bro. That's the question. So why did they take it out?

No, it was an accident. So it was in there. It was in there. Then when Warzone launched, something happened. Update came out. Everyone updated. Rule Set just dissipated. A sequence of ones and zeros was put into the wrong semi-colon and colons and underscores

that allowed for that shit to just completely disappear. Something so... They probably hate doing updates. So for them to have another update come right back out again just to put that in. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I guess to put that back in, they would have to have another update. Yeah.

I guess it's hard. But my thing is this, right? We moved to PC because of the amount of updates that we had to sort of coordinate with whether it was Xbox or PlayStation and their stores and whether or not they would be able, you know, their schedule. But even then, right, even then, there's still nothing has been better. Nothing has improved. The quality of the gameplay, the beauty of the gameplay for sure. But aside from that, like, I don't, I can't tell you the last time that, and this is what pains me the most, man. I wish I was playing war zone right now.

That's how much fun I'm having there. Is it fun? It's fun. It's beautiful. It's bright. So when you're playing and it's working, good. You like it. Yeah.

Okay. I don't have any complaints at all. Time to kill. Is that an issue for you guys? I would like to see it go up a little bit more. And that is on behalf of like everyone. That's not just like people. I say that on my stream and people are like, bro.

Just like you're saying that for the pros. You're saying that for the content creators. Like no casual wants it to be raised. And I'm like, I don't know, man. I feel like, yes. I can get gun, I can get gunned faster than I would in Warzone, but like, that means I'm also gunning Timmy's, like, way faster. Like, they're getting put down.

Like, I think they could use an extra plate. Like, sick pets. Like, one extra plate. One extra plate would be, and I'm not saying make it four plates, I'm saying, like, make the health worth one more plate, maybe at the most. You know what I mean? Make three plates worth, like, theater. Do you think the map is too big?

I love the map, man. I love the map size. You don't think they should increase the amount of people playing? I would love to see, like, 175, too? That would be incredible. That would be sick, right? I mean, that would be sick. It will be a grueler grinder, but nonstop playing.

I agree. The amount of, the amount of, the amount of, one, I don't crash ever at all, ever, ever. I don't have no, uh, yeah, nothing, never. Not doing the beta. My drivers and I haven't crashed in like 10 games now. I've done everything. I've never updated my drivers. I've never updated my drivers until recently.

Doc didn't crash a single time the whole day we played. So we played day one. We were trying to do like this 24 out. We're trying to do a long a stream. He didn't crash a single time. I crash, maybe we played like 15 games. I crashed maybe every single game. Yeah.

Have you been on different setups as well? I've been on, that day. I feel like it might be account base somehow. I'm not even allowed to you. I almost agree with that. I almost agree with that because there's, but then I don't get it at all because I, listen, I have people like, you know, any desk into my PC,

try everything they possibly can, go into the bios, re-download windows, re-download the game. I've done it on Steam, on BattleNet. That whole day was literally just a, troubleshooting day of trying everything under the sun to make that game work. And I got it to a point now where like, okay, I can go, I can go quite some time without crashing, but it's still going to crash eventually. And my boys, Dee and Belk behind me, they're in the same setup, same office.

They weren't crashing at all. But then just yesterday, Dee starts crashing randomly out of nowhere. And Doc, he started crashing the other day. And Nayshot was crashing the other day. Everyone is crashing. And then some people are just getting very lucky for like a big session or like maybe a week of sessions, but then it just creeps up on you somehow. I don't know how it's happening.

I feel like it's a patch. Mine was I get on first game I get skin And then it doesn't do it for like a while And then once it does it It'll start doing it every other game It's weird And then everyone every PC tech is like Oh I know what it is it's this

It's that you gotta switch this You gotta do it and it's like bro I'm telling you right now I don't know if anyone knows what's going on Other than they need to put out some kind of like patch They need to put out a new patch And it needs to have some type of fix to talk about these crashes Because it's got to be on their end

I mean, I don't see how everyone's hardware can be screwed up. Bro, but what happens to 35-year-olds plus that don't have the access to a Matt that I do? They're on their Dell from Best Guy. I would not know how to fix any of that shit. Literally. I would be like, you know what? PC is just not for me. I'm going to go back on PlayStation.

Yeah. Matt loves that shit. Do trouble? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do console players crash? Give me the cult of team viewer right. Do console players crash?

No. Is it like a PC thing? No, every console player is telling me they're my. channel they're like I'm on console I haven't crashed a single time no you don't crash on console so that's what's going on the old heads don't have so I'm happening oh it's I got I got Joey on watch man you know what I'm saying uh the the again right and I hate to make these these these these podcasts where I'm complaining about the league but man oh my god it is I I am constantly one dealing with the shit that I got to deal with on the daily basis but when you add that sort of

level to the stress of the players as the players are trying to train and get ready for something. They can't even train. Nobody can train on a league. That's $300 million. When's the first event? December 6th. Yeah, I thought it was.

That's three weeks. Oh, man. Three weeks. And guess what's going to happen? I'm predicting it right fucking now. Okay, people should can't. I'm not calling for anything. But it's going to get canceled.

It's because what's going to happen? What's going to happen to? People are going to show up. The esports engine is going to turn on the lights. they're going to press play. Optic obviously is playing at the last match of the day because this is esports engine slash MLG slash Adam Epicella.

Shot at Adam Epicella. Or they pull a halo and half the people are playing on PlayStation's. Well, they can't play Halo on PlayStation can they? I guess if there's no practice then. There's literally no practice, dude. Does shit crash when they're when they're screaming? No.

Is there any problems with that? Not as much. You just can't scream anyway. There's no point. There's no private lobbies. You can get on. Not every day get off. You can, all you can do, there's no.

There's no. So there is a private lobby. You just have to do something weird to get into it. And some of the rules are not there because they were only in CDL. So it's like impossible to even get the settings. It's like pub. So even if you manually went in and changed everything, there's still no way of getting like the exact CDL setting. Control, no.

Or it's like you would do all that. And then it crashed and then you have to go back. Do everything. It's possible. Oh, my God. Maybe there is no, yeah. You really, has an event ever been canceled before? No.

I don't, I feel like somehow they're going to fucking do it. Besides COVID events, no. But my thing, my thing there is like, we did it. We, we, I'm so frustrated because now we're on this, on this two-year cycle bullshit, right? And what is that going to do? Are you telling me that if we do a two-year cycle in two years for 20, 24, we're going to be able to see a game that is playable. What do you think it is, though?

Every time this happens with like any game, anything that's going on, any issues, and the whole community is just like up in arms, like, who is to actually blame for all this thing? Because like you said, like, we don't, I'm not a code. I don't code games. I don't make these games, right? So I can never, I even say that before I talk shit on any game, I always like, listen, I don't make these games. I don't know what I'm talking about, but I just feel like, you know, so, so and so.

But like, obviously, one, these companies want to make as much money as possible. So they want their game to be working. People being like, oh, they just want to, they want to be out of it. And like, no, they want that game to be where they want billions of dollars. They want people on this game. They want people playing the game, obviously. Yeah. But it's like, where does the disconnect happen?

Where is it? It's like, something. It's someone's fault. And they never ever talk. Is it because there's too many people, is it because it's gotten so big now that there's probably so much red tape. And there's so many different people. It's a publicly traded company. Yeah, exactly.

That sort of financial mathematics is only available and it's only comprehensible by people behind the fucking curtain. And not me, not any team owner in this fucking league, not anyone besides the people on the top floors at Activision know what's really going up. They can't say a fucking word. He was like, and they never fucking fuck. They never said anything. Anyone ever addressed anything? that's ever been wrong. There's nothing to address.

The thing you also have to consider is, like, there's so many layers, man. There's so many layers. And it is almost impossible for anyone to try and run a business. I, by myself, gosh darn it. By myself, I almost proved that the model worked. How about some Activision employee that got fired? Listen to this.

No, no, no. Listen to this, right? Come on the pod. From the beginning, it has all been about what it is that we can do for them as opposed to what the league can do for what we're paying them to fucking do. Because no one's out here doing anything favor. No one's out here doing anyone any favors. Okay, we're paying.

We're investing money into this thing. So this whole thing is like, well, you know, we're doing your favor. We're not, you're not, though. Because Call of Duty, competitive Call of Duty was doing just fine before all of this craziness started to happen. Right? And had the money not been an issue and had all that been put aside? people would have still been complaining about this thing.

And then maybe then you could have been, you could have said something along the lines of like, you know, we're working on things internally. But when people pay for a product, you're supposed to get a product back. When people sell you a sandwich, it comes with two pieces of bread and something in the middle. If I was a casual and bought this game,

and like, pay what, 60 bucks? And then, well, I am. a casual but if I bought this game and I was just some casual Joe don't really pay much attention to like probe shit but I just try to sign on and I'm lagging out every single game and crashing and all these issues I would be so pit like that's 60 to someone to where like like they might have like saved up they made sure to save up 60 bucks before the like a lot of people probably definitely did that and they're just getting fucking what happened last here. People were buying that red, that red scarfed demon, and then you couldn't see him.

He was, he was, he was an invisible skin, right? Like, people, people are paying for these things. Think about when you first bought the skin and when you pulled out your weapon, it was your head. You know what I'm saying? Like, people are paying for product and it's not being given back to him. And that is what upsets me. That's actually crazy. That's kind of like, I wonder where that rides a line between.

How mad do you get? When you order DoorDash, that popped in my head. That's what I'm saying. You say it. You say it then. You say it then. I've just, if you order DoorDash and you get something different or like, fucking, when I order McDonald's, I'll mostly order McDonald's for the fries. And sometimes I don't even get the fries.

And it's just, it's not like I care that much about the $13, but it's just, it somehow ruins my night. And it just pisses me off a waste of the time and I just rage. And that's probably how. Some people fill with skins. He's already mad. It's fucking 11.30. He knows he's about to let himself down because he's not disciplined enough to not eat the fries. But then right there, in his lowest moment of the day when he's like, I just need this so I can go to sleep.

He gets no fries. I'll specifically pick. This happened twice in a row, and it's why it's my first example. Two, not two days in a row. I never eat McDonald's two days in a row. Two DoorDash orders in a row. I order. I'm like, I just.

I'm craving their fries. I love French fries. So I just order like two McDonald's and fries. And I get my McDonald's, no fries. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Like I ordered from you, idiots, just for the fries. And then like a week later or something, I do it again. And the same shit happened.

And it's been messing with me since. I have yet to recover. So, yeah, I feel these people with Spain with the skins and, you know, they buy a product. And it's just they get half of it. The whole reason the league is buying the product of Call Dude to begin with is to be able to play their private matches, practice in their stuff, and then go play in the CDL. And it's like they can't even like you buy the get like they don't want to pub all day. You know, they want to pub a little bit. Like when the game comes out, it's fun for a little bit.

But like then it's time to practice and it's time to get in the private matches. They can't even do that. And it's crazy like you said, like the fact that it's not, yeah, DefCon 5. Like it's the fact that it's not. What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? I don't know if that.

I don't even know if that. correlates whatsoever with this. I heard that twice now and I'm like, I heard him say that I said it. You guys have never heard it. It was stuck in my head. I've heard it. I just don't know what it means. President. Yeah. Matt's looking it up on Google right now. Defecon 5.

Def con 5 definition. Where it came from. I haven't seen a bunch of people in an uproar about war zone, but I haven't seen them in a, I haven't seen the pros raging. I don't think. I've been seen some tweets. Make it up a little bit, make it a little bit bigger. The defense, red lines, uh, condition.

the DEFCON system was available by Joint Chiefs of Staff. DefCon 1 signaling the outbreak of nuclear warfare. Where's number 5, man? Like we should have a DEFCOM 5. Fade out. Lowest state of readiness. Normal readiness. Okay, so DEF CON 1 is like...

We're already imminent. Yeah, imminent. We are already begun. Yes. We are DEFCOM 5. We're at the lowest state of readiness. Yeah, we're at the lowest state of readiness. Normal readiness. DefCon 3, which is what Kanye was saying,

increase the force of readiness above that require normal readiness, Air Force ready to mobilize in 15 minutes. Okay, well, thank you, Matt. Now that Nick has been educated. We need a Defcom one. Yeah. I mean, no, the thing is, the thing is, the thing is, nuclear war.

I don't even know. I don't know. So to answer your question as to whose fault it is, you got to take into account that there's, call it that there is 30 developers. 30 people that work on the science of, you know, of Call of Duty universe, they work on everything to make sure that the wind's blowing enough, to make sure that the gravity is correct according to human nature,

that it's okay for a human soldier to climb a ladder. Like all of these things are all mathematical things that happen, equations, quantum physics and all that happens within the methamperse. Everything's not about ones and zeros. Okay. And this matrix. So if you're telling you, those 30 people and they're like as a company, right, so publicly traded company, you're thinking

to yourself, I got to make as much money as I can while keeping cost super low. So they're like, sorry, same 30 people, but you're not just working on your multiplayer, TDM and domination, which is the one that is play the most, but you also have to add warsome to it. And you've got to make it good. And you've got to make it bright. And you've got to make sure that the bounty system works and you've got to make sure that the airstrikes work you got to make sure that everything's pinging correctly voice chat you they're like okay well can we get more help that's where that's where the break happens whether or not they're getting the support

the developer support to be able to take over that that that that that work that's what's been missing for the last and then they enter intertwine everything together too which is a big issue i heard a lot of people talking about and we're very scared about when when they heard about DMZ becoming a thing yeah when they heard DMZ was a thing they were like okay well that's going to probably affect war zone heavily. Yeah. Because they're going to be like in the same universe. They're going to probably like, and it has.

And I'm not saying in a negative way. I actually kind of like the looting system. Now I'm getting used to it. Once people get the muscle memory down, I feel like it's like it's actually not too shabby. I actually kind of like it. There's parts of the game. Like I said, I feel like it could be special.

There's just some issues. But what I was getting at, I think one of the biggest things, I saw Scumph put a tweet out the other day. He was talking about how they just, bro, they just, it was like a clip of him being like, what are they doing over there at the, like, at the developers and stuff because they just up the foot. footsteps. Forget about dead silence. They just up the footsteps by 75%, which here's what I'm talking about. The correlation is an issue. In war zone, that's a good thing. In war zone, it's like,

oh, good, thank God. Footsteps. I can finally hear when a team is rolling up on me out of like a random place. And vice versa. But vice versa, when you're playing on a six v. or a four v. four, five, five map and you're a tight, tight map and you're trying to run around and sneak and try to get a bomb plant. You need silent footsteps. You need silent footsteps. They just cranked them 75%, which doesn't actually feel like that. I can. can't lie, it probably feels like they didn't do anything, but they said that they cranked it 75%, which is just...

That just happens for both. Who's the one that they said? That's what I'm saying. The fact that they don't keep things separated, the fact that they can't, the fact that you can't play pubs and they can't be like, okay, we're going to give the pub community, we're going to give you guys your dead silence as a, you know, as a field upgrade, we'll do all that. Who cares, right?

You know, it works fine. It's pubs, whatever. But for the CDL, because we have a league that you guys are investing insane amounts of money. into all the time. We're just going to have some settings that you can click on. And boom, there's your silent footsteps. And here's your that.

That should just come ready, pre-packaged, ready to go every year. It should just be like straightforward, no? Like these are the things that the players I feel like are complaining about every single year. I feel like there's no way the developers don't know this. They have to. Like, they have to. But how do they not? They have to know.

But is there someone saying, no? We're not going to focus. on that like above them and because I feel like that would be some of that's like I mean maybe the primary issues would be like crashing and stuff yeah they're not even being CDL rules but I feel like there's got to be little stuff there's so many little stuff that they could do as well like just have a dead silence for everyone in the CDL setting little something like that's like settings I don't know yeah I don't know all I noticed that is a triple a title that's been around for ever ever you know what i mean and it's not like they're not making uh cash hand over fist

i kind of liked it when i'm playing it at the i've the only time i ever played it was at the optic hang out yeah i did i have yet to even play war zone it's so even when i was just playing up there didn't have my scuff control or nothing it felt my it felt like my kind of game it was nice and slow people weren't being cracked fucking yeah i i mean i i don't mind i don't mind any Any of that. Like, you know, playstiles or playstiles are playstiles. You wouldn't say, have you played, like, game battles or anything? No.

I don't have a team for it. Is there, is game battles still going? X can't find a team. I can't find a team. I can't find a team. I know when they'll pick him up on their GVT. Well, first of all, it ain't about whether or not people pick me up. It's the team that I have.

You want to play with. My team. I'm an omen optic. They just don't play. Warzone? They love, they like playing the RPG games where you, you, you fall off a plane. You land on a far point and then you loot and then you walk half an hour. You fight, fight, fight.

Then you loot and then you fucking walk in a car, go fucking miles, miles, miles. Oh, there's a red dot over here. Hutch is like, let's not go over there. Let's go over here. I'm like, no, we're supposed to. You chase red dots all the time and get the team in trouble. Man, I'm trying to get into fights. Yeah.

If I wanted to play an RPG, I'll go play God of War or Red Dead redemption. You know what I mean? I'm trying to get into fights. They're on like their own little like mission in their head. Like they're thinking it's a real war. Like dude. Yeah. They see people.

They like kind of get away. They make sure they have high ground. Like they don't want to just dive right in there like. Just people are afraid of their own talents, man. You're a free agent? I'm a free agent. I'm effective immediately. If anybody has a G.

G. If anybody has a G. You know, holler at your boy. I'm nasty. I think you have both should team up. Have you been playing GBs or anything or just wars then? Well, when it, when it was, working like wagers and shit.

That's fine. You were making paper? I mean, just playing like, it don't matter any amount. Just having fun. You were talking shit to these rookies? Nah, I mean, like, the only time I ever talk shit is when like, here's the thing that gets me gone. You get the match.

They instantly type in the chat code. Like, all right, bro, we just got the match. You send it to them. Then one of their little asshole friends joins and just sits auto-assigned. Like, bro, the game's crash. Switch the fucking team You just got them So I'll just go game chat

Like bro switch the fucking team Please And they'll go real quick Like it's just annoying as hell How does stuff like that even happen though Like you can't sit in the lobby And just like five for a little bit Before the

It would like crash for some of the No I know that it crashed something I'm just like why So right now people can't even do that Why do lobbies crash No I know that too Dude sometimes it just feels like In the evolution of like gaming

And our kind of like advances And all this kind of stuff It just feels like we've taken some steps back in a lot of places. I'll boot up, when I booted up Modern Warfare 2 for the first time, I was like,

I know how everyone makes tons of jokes about how like the old school user interface for like games like Halo 3 and stuff, which is so simple. Or Xbox 360, you know, it's very straightforward. It's not rocket science.

And then it's like, I don't know if we're just trying to get a little too intricate with this stuff, but it's like, it does not make sense how it's, you know, I've got to figure it out now, but like,

why is it just that crazy? You want to know why? Why is it that crazy? You want to know why? I'm going to tell you why the interface, the use of the interface is the way that it's. I'm going to tell you why. Okay. First of all, all you have to do is go to embassy, go on top of a, what's the bomb by the tennis courts?

Fence? The vents, like on top vents? Like where blue doors, you can run up to the roof right there. I think it's B. I think it's B bomb. Okay. Yeah. So when you go up the stairs and you exit the door, when you turn left, what do you see?

Nothing. Yeah. You see nothing because you're blind. by the fucking son. Okay. In their quest to make the most beautiful, most realistic, beautiful world in the history of worlds, they also wanted to do that sort of creativity. They also wanted to show their skills.

They're incredible. And they are skills. They are incredible. They're commendable. My respects to you. They wanted to do the same thing for something that could be a bullet point of options. Give me a list, S&D, Warzone. And then from Warzone, give me three.

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It's not that I don't even like it. It's like, all sports for me. I just like Mexican people. Only so much time of the day. Only so much time of the day. I feel like there's so much shit that I'm into. And even, you only like half of the Mexican people. I don't know.

I just thought of this because he said Mexican. So, yeah, we're going to this Ryan Garcia and tank fight. Where is it? I don't know. Who you got? You know who I. Oh my God. What?

You got a tank? Yeah. Come on, man. You know, you know Ryan Garcia's the King Ryre is going to be a boss. King Ryre's going to hit him with one of them fucking mega lightning fast hooks. He ain't going to see it. I don't care how good you are. You don't see that shit coming.

You want to put some money on it? May weather it is. Okay. How much? I mean, it doesn't matter. Or I know it does matter with you, but. What's how much? You tell me your phrase out.

$2,500? Damn. All right. 20. Oh. Oh. A thousand? That'd be a crazy.

If you're going to go to a fight, that would be the fight they go to. Yeah. Where is it? It got to be Vegas. We got to go. 2023 sometime. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, probably be the end of 2023.

I'm trying to stay the, I don't know. Who you got? In that fight? King Rye or? I don't know, but probably tank. Do you know who we're talking about? Yeah. Sorry, man.

I'm sorry. No? I mean, I just don't follow. Bring up the clips. Don't bring up the clips, Matt. Don't even type it in there. There was a historic snowfall in Buffalo over six feet of snow. Oh, wow.

And this is why they moved the football, the football game. And mad people, the amount of, bro, the amount of people they were bitching about it. That'd be me right there. Just like, what the fuck, man? That looks like a pretty regular. How much are you? Regular snowfall. It's like,

yo, you're late again. Bro, when we had that snowstorm. What can you possibly be doing? Was it last year? Dude, I lost full when I left off my balcony.

What, the snowstorm last year? I couldn't believe it. Yeah. I was just like, oh my gosh. I spun out in the streets, and these two guys in like a tractor trailer

got out and pushed me out. With the tractor trailer? Why did you never tell anybody? No, he did. He did. I feel like I thought it. I might have told it on the podcast,

but it was when, uh, my apartments or like some apartments near Dallas were like blacked out yeah like a week i had no no heat no water no nothing so i had no food he had mad zabs though no i uh where'd you have to sleep uh i slept i feel like i slept here but i like literally on the couch i feel like i slept somewhere else too i can't remember i don't know how people can sleep without blankets but yeah i had to leave with junior i had to pat it was fucking it was like literally one a m freezing fucking cold

no heat in my apartment then I had to pack my shit pack junior pack clothes and do all this in pitch black brought that dirty ass cat over here like walk down the steps because elevators ain't working like four flights and then I pack like a third of it in my car go back up

and all this in pitch black I have to carry my phone light running out of battery because he has to be able to charge it I get in my car I'm spinning out I'm getting pushed out of snow I'm driving 10 miles per hour just to make it here

that fucking snowstorm is crazy It was crazy It ain't like fucking this It ain't like Buffalo butt You know people were pitching about Like I remember a storm like this I mean I don't know about six feet though That doesn't look at sea

Jesus fucking how Well this was like Before Kids are probably hype Dude that's a state of emergency bro That's Yeah Six feet's crazy

Yeah well that's like four feet Three feet I have pictures still from when that happened in Schaumburg. Oh shit. Now I'll date though. See, what if you lost them? They could have.

What if you just? You heard him? Couldn't breathe, probably. I'm gonna throw his ass. If you go look at the comment to that video. That guy's getting cooked. They found his Facebook, his family.

Yeah, he's like, this animal cruelty. Six feet, let's see. Oh my God. That's like, that's like, that's like, whatever. Look at that.

Yeah. Oh, no. That on top. Well, that's the top of a car. Let's go to the cars, yeah. But look at that. That's still five feet. That's still a good four feet.

A foot. Bro, look at those willow trees. They don't have willow trees over here, do they? If you don't got no food, you are fucked. Well, no, they told you ahead of time. And why wouldn't you have any food in the house? Well, I'm talking about from my experience. Let me ask you this.

There's plenty of people like us that wouldn't have food. Do you have a bug out bag? What is that? You don't have a bug out bag? Matt, do you have a bug out bag? Bug out bag. Bug out. B-U-G-out.

Do you have a bug out bag? Is that just when shit hits a fan? Like everything you need in a bag? It's yeah, it's like it's 48 hours of emergency water, compasses, lights, flashlights, food. Bugout bag. Yeah, bug out bad. You guys don't have? I have three.

Hand-cracked. Cranked radio? A hand-cranked radio and nothing. I think you're going to say that. You don't already Like I am I stay ready One of my boys called me up I would just find someone that has went to you

You can't I ask you only got three first Look when when uh I only have three Listen when when she started to hit the fan For COVID and people were like Oh my God this is going to be one of those things People are going to start going crazy

Riots are going to happen You know you kind of wish it would have Yeah I've been waiting for this shit It was crazy It's like I need some excitement in my life I've been waiting. But I hit up my man Toby Thomas from Oklahoma who's got the ranch.

It's just like 3,000 square acres of just like land. They're fenced in. He's got animals and shit. I was like, man, I know what's going to happen if I text. I was like, yo, let me get like a little lot in your spot. He's going to be like, fuck that. I got this place. Only my family can live.

He would have let me, that's for sure. But, yeah. Then you would have brought an optic. Listen, no. We would have started a community. The zombie apocalypse happened. You have to. There's nothing but dudes here. I mean, we'll just tweet out.

What? Find some e-girls. Need one for COVID community? Need one for breeding. Hashtag COVID community. No. So, so yeah, you got to be prepared. Like, you can't just live life without being prepared.

You have to prepare for the worst. But are you? Let me ask you this. If I go into the trunk of your car, is there a med kit? Is there blankets? I think so. Is there like, you know. I think there's a med kit.

I don't think there's blankets. Change of clothes. There's a yoga mat. Nice. That's about it. Nice. It's got yoga mat. There's a blanket.

Yoga mats and, uh, and keto diet. Oh, I think I have is this spare tire shit and. My car didn't even come with a spare. Right there. For a hundred, for, for, for 120 bucks. Wait, what do you mean? Wow, this bag's got a flat. It was a brand new car.

And then you went to go look for your spare. Wait. When you say it's a brand new car Is it brand new because you You bought it and that's what makes it brand new? Yes, I bought it zero miles Okay, so from the from the dealership I'm like I got a flat

He's like, do you have a spare? I'm like, fucking great idea Let me go check No spare I'm like bro Wait, did you look at the right place? Was there it was just empty? It was no yeah, it was just nothing there

What the shut up? Yo like motherfuckers are just cutting corners And I'm not sound out why I know I actually figured out, figured it out why. Because the tires, like little tire shortage happened, whatever,

and the tires like went up. The tires on those cards were like $600 bucks. So I go to the dealer and it was like time for my tires and they're trying to like, they're basically trying to like steal one of my tires. Dude, I'm like,

I'm like, bro, you're a dealership. Like they keep putting the wrong one on my car. I'm like, bro. The donut? The wrong donut? No, they're putting like the cheap tire on my car. Like, bro.

go get the tire back there that you took off my. Want some Pirelli? Yeah, like, bro, bring my Pirelli back out. That shit was good. You know what I'm saying? And right there, I was like, I see what they're doing. It can uncourt it. And we're sure X amount of.

Look at this, man. You can go on Amazon.com and you can get a bugout bag. It comes with a two-person. So right there, there you go. Look at the water. I mean, this is for, well, 72 hours. I guess that could clutch, but if shit really hits a fan, 72 hours ain't really gonna do much.

It'll do enough to get another one. To rob someone and steal theirs. Oh, they got those gloves from back in the day where they used to pick up the leaves with there. This just makes me think about people that like... It makes me think about people that like build bunkers. Yeah. Like bunker, like people that build like the craziest bunkers at all time for like...

Look at a go to Andrew Flair's channel, Matt. Oh, man. And look at his, his... It's like a, it's like a new. Like, oh yeah, he's probably got like this insane. Like an actual, yeah, Andrew Flair Bunker, a missile silo. Oh my God. So would actually build this?

Yeah, so this is one of the founders of Gugan. He's got a bunch of land somewhere. I'm not going to say where because I don't know if he. But look at this. Give us a little bit of volume there, Maddie. Did he actually do this for? Well, he didn't. He bought it.

He didn't build it. Oh. Imagine you get trapped on there? Yeah, that's what I was saying. I wouldn't even close down. It's like your phone obviously doesn't work down there. under asphalt and metal. This is for nukes. That'd be clutch.

Anyway, that's my bro right there. You gotta watch the whole thing. He'd let you in his nuke bunker. I've seen some photos. People would like... We should go to a video surviving 24 hours in Andrew Flares bunker. They got caught in there and everything.

Damn, imagine if... Imagine if you actually went in there because the nuke was hitting, you fucking, like, heard it go off, like, whatever, and then you get out of there and you, like, poke your house. out and everything is just fucking all you hear is fire

fire dust dirt wind gotta be insane all right that's enough man i don't know why i've such a fantasy about it bro have you seen the movie greenland uh i don't think with uh gerard butler i don't think have you seen it no you know i don't watch movies

come on matt you've seen greenland don't don't hit videos don't hit videos i like gerard butler You haven't? Bro, listen to me. I watched it back to back. One of the first movies I've ever watched, as soon as it was over, a couple hours went by and I watched it again.

Wait, did this just come out? Oh, it came out in 2020. Yeah, it's so good. It is, it's apocalyptic. Hell yeah. Bro, it's, my favorite movies. Listen, my, my, if you like to be,

if you don't, if you're not an anxious person and you want to feel anxiety a little bit, like it made me feel, I'm like, man, I don't know how people live in this state all the time. Planet killing comets. Racing to Earth.

It's so good. Maybe one day. Might happen. Oh, listen, the more you watch, the more you get ideas to prepare and do that. I too have dreams of all. Why would you even want to be alive after that? What? No, this is a straight suffering, right?

Like, you don't want to see what it. Even if you can walk around after. What do you mean? Like, everyone's dead and you're like, fuck. Now I got to build a farm and just, like Earth restarted, like you're on level one. You've got to have your seeds.

Imagine being able to imagine a month in years. Then you just have like a 500 kids. That's not even it, dude. It's not like, it's not just that you can. You basically restart Earth. It's not just about

staying inside the bunker for five years while the earth dust settles and all the, you know, all the, the, what is it? The, what is it? Radiation. Yeah, the radiation. Yeah, the radiation. Well, radiation,

as if it's a nuclear war, so you have to think about that too. But even after the five years of you living down there, you still have to open up and come above, and then you have nothing. That'd be kind of fun. Well, there's nothing. There's no toilet paper. Think about it.

By now, you're wiping your ass with your hand. What are you eating to be able to produce some shit? Damn, you fucking stink. There's no showers. You're not brushing your teeth. This is all canned foods. All canned foods. All canned foods because you're...

Maybe you can grow some. stuff down there, right? You could grow some like with no sun? Oh yeah I guess not right? Well I mean you can have some ways to do like little like incubator type stuff. You can take you can take the you can take the lights from from your weed plants and grow some vegetables I guess but

the weed goes away. Imagine that. Imagine that. Imagine that. All gone. Weeds are all drugs. God. I feel like that'd be interesting. No, it's not. It's the worst thing. To start over you got to repopulate Earth. As long as it's interesting. You got to like start farming and shit. internet.

The only, what would suck is you wouldn't have electricity and you would be cold as fuck. But you got to be a cold blood of motherfucker too, because you got to remember. Or you'd be hot as shit. You got to be ready to, like, your first thought when you get out there is like, I'm going to have to kill someone. Yeah. Because it's either me or them, especially if you have a family with you, there's no, no

questions. What if you just start? Well, I think people would start communities. And then that's when, like, some walking dead. Communities and tribes would form. and then that's when wars would probably already start happening like fresh out

fucking fresh out the bunker fresh out the bunker just fresh out the bunker you're going you're going to start you're going to start communities and someone's going to do something to your community and it's going to be like at first it's going to be like inner city gang

violence and that but you're going to expand so much to where it's just going to be you got to come out of there be like I know what's happening just come with me just chill the fuck out don't get me any shit and then just like work work around it because there is it is it is a scary thing you know what saying if there's nothing there's literally nothing come on that i probably happy and peaceful

not anything i don't know about that maybe not i don't know about that maybe if the world ended it it's not how it's not man it's not because you got you also have to think about like you have to find dude a nuclear war is psychotic i doubt that would happen what's up matt what's a geiger counter is that what checks radiation? They're an actual strat to where does anyone know the actual strat to if someone sets off a nuke?

What are we going to do? It is that, right Matt? Detect radiation, yeah. You have to find that to see if you're going to be able to grow vegetables in a certain place. Bro, it is. Not my thing.

It's just, wait, wait, I'm good. Hit me with it. Let me be one of the first to go. For real. Yeah, I would have. I'm just like, I'm not dealing. You would have mind what? Surviving or going for a

Don't out by nuke. I'm not bro, I'm not How does die? He got nuked. He got newt. That'd be a pretty crazy way to go for sure. Imagine you're still vlogging.

No one's watching. That's how you know you're really down for your crap. But I mean, I feel like you would have to vlog or like dude. If you vlog. Hey guys. If you.

Day one of day one. Imagine doing like your YouTube intro. Imagine. Yo, what is up Zip? Like, we're back. Day three.

What if the people would be like if the people, Like if the people who built the pyramids vlogged and then we find it now, that's you and, yeah, you'd be that guy. Bro, it's you and me and people haven't seen you in a long time, but all of a sudden they see me with a I'm not okay sweater on. He's like, I haven't seen naked a long time, but I'm wearing his hoodie. Anyone else alive out there? Make sure you like some. Turned on those bell loadies. But if people found it hundreds or thousands of years later, yeah.

I feel like you would, yeah, you would definitely document. So maybe it's a good idea to be like, hey guys, my name is Sector. I was chosen as the prophet of all human kind of. Yeah. Just start. Just start laughing. She would have to start lying my ass off as like, you know, what happened at first was that, you know, I had to with my own hands kill a bunch of aliens, like literally from outer space. And I try to save as many of my humankind as I could.

But in the end, I couldn't. And the end. And then there's like, they're going to make statues of the guy that saved Earth one. Anyway, do you guys have any topics that you guys want to discuss before we go on? Oh, let me talk about this really quickly, Matt. What I'm wearing right now, Matt, hand me one of those hoodies from over there, please. We have the Optic Black Friday happening this Friday. One of the best drops that we've ever done in the history of all the stuff that we've done.

Obviously, super high quality, and I mean super high quality, everything. This is just one of the pieces that we have, which is the hoodie that I'm wearing right now. obviously 3M reflective on several places. We have patches and also we have secret pockets on the sleeves. You know what I'm saying? You can hide stuff in there. Very, very, very high quality. Everything's reflective.

Optic on the hoodie. This is just one of the pieces. But the offering itself is super mega fire. Matt, that's mine. Do not throw that shit away. But that's going to do it for this episode, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. If you guys enjoyed the episode, please remember not leave without leaving a like.

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