OpTic Podcast - CROWDFUNDING + CALL OF DUTY = TOP ESPORTS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 46

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

This week we have HECZ, MBoZe, Formal, and Hitch on The OpTic Podcast to discuss crowdfunding in esports, alien technology, and the launch of Pine Park! Leave a question in the comments below to be fe...atured in next weeks episode!  Go to http://expressvpn.com/optic to get an extra 3 months FREE! Go to http://chime.com/OPTIC to get started today! Check out the OpTic Podcast here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG CROWDFUNDING + CALL OF DUTY = TOP ESPORTS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 46 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, think about it. Bro, somebody invented Velcro got mega fucking rich of that. Somebody invented a Post-in note. No, no, no one invented Velcro. Not going to let that one slide. What do you mean? Someone invented Velcro? Listen, man, it didn't.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Okay. What does that mean? What you got to get to get to the Roswell UFO crashes. We got Velcro and GPS from him. Look it up. Look up when Velcro was invented. Are you saying aliens brought it? Google right now when Velcro is.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Wait, no, are you saying aliens brought it? Yes. You are, aren't you? Look it. Five, four, five, four, three, two. Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode of 46. of the optics podcast. This episode is brought to me by Express, VPN, and Chime.
Starting point is 00:00:39 And I'll tell you a little bit more about them later on in the podcast or maybe Hitchwell. We shall see. Bose, Hitch, my man, formal. What you're reading over there? The Kanye one? Yeah. I was reading the mini-frize. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:54 So there is this thing, right? Like we, since we started doing this podcast, we started to get topics from not only the audience, but just like current affairs. And Matt puts them up there. And some are hits, some of them or not. And before we start recording, we usually like make fun of them, which is what that formal was doing there, just looking to see what he can make fun of. Zuma leaving NYSL is the thing that we're going to lead with.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Good, I mean, I don't know what, like, I don't want to say good for him. It was a good run. It was a good run at NYSL. Great player on the team. Yeah, it's a good org. I fuck with what they're doing. And I think he took their content. I mean, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:01:32 He didn't. I don't know what their content was prior to Zuma becoming a content creator, but he took that shit to the next level. The thing is, is I don't think that they utilize them well enough. When one of your people is fucking blowing up like that, you do anything and everything you can. Put this shit on our channel. Put the shit on our channel, right? So I don't know. I'm super happy for the dude, though, man.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Oftentimes in this industry, a lot of underserving people. And when I say underserving, I mean just like literal blatant assholes get to a level that they're not supposed to. So when it happens to someone as good of a person as Zuma, also one of us, you know what I mean? Call a duty kid fucking grew up, growing up, smashing. So grats to him. Where's he going? Do you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:20 That's a yeah. Well, I need to know where. Later. Later on today. What do you think he's leaving him where? That's crazy. That's crazy. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I didn't know. I read the tweet earlier, though. But good for him, though. Yeah, now it's like... He's cool. I fuck with it. Yeah, he'll have more opportunities now, too. Lots more.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Have you ever been in a booth, man? Like, geez. Yo, all right? So I'm never going to see you wearing a Cubs hat, right? Well, you know what it's funny when I was on Chicago and then I went to the thing and where the cuntman? Yeah. And I went to shoot in L.A.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I wore the Cubs hat and shit. No, you're like, they're like, oh, I forgot. They're like, yeah, you can't wear it. You can't wear the hat. And I'm like, who's the people in the back, right? So I'm like, all right, so I don't got a haircut or not. So what am I going to wear? What people in the back?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Like the league people. So the guy goes, let me see what I can do. I watch him walk out of the room, go up to one of the production guys. He's talking. I just even take his hat off. He gives it to the guy. I'm like, I'm not wearing that. Wait, what's wrong with the Cubs?
Starting point is 00:03:26 It's a branding. It's a branding thing. I just figured like if it was Chicago, Chicago like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We family around here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I mean, that's like a pretty intense rivalry.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It is. But so Natechats like the fucking number one fucking perpetrator of that, right? He's a Cubs fan. Okay. But in the last year, this motherfucker's been rocking the socks. And I texted him. And I'm like, yo, you can't wear that. He's like, shut your ass up, man.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's fucking fashion. And I was like, all right? Just letting you know you're fucking perpetrating. Yeah. You don't, you know, you're either a Cubs fan. Or a socks fan. Fashion, no fashion, doesn't get in the way of that rivalry ever. Wait, how does I get decided?
Starting point is 00:04:07 On which team you support? You just pick it. Damn, how would you ever pick the White Sox over the Cubs? I'm going to tell you how. And I did it, right? Growing up, you know, obviously Cubs have, obviously, you know, red, white and blue, beautiful, beautiful colors. It's a good brand. But it wasn't until Jordan decided to go and go into baseball playing for the Sox that I became a Sox fan.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So I've been a Sox fan ever since then. Because we talked about this before. Mine was the Mets and the Yankees. Yeah. My dad was a Mets fan. And then everyone where I lived, my mom, everyone was Yankees. Yeah. But then I kind of drifted towards Yankees.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And at first we were Giants fans. Yeah. Or we were Buccaneers fans at first. I was a Buccaneers fan. And then we switched to the Giants. But no one was ever a Jets fan. Well, why are the fuckingers? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I just wrote them. I don't know why it was fuckingian. I just wrote them in like, I was just young. And I just like, I was just like, I fuck with the Buccaneers. It was like seven. Got like blanket and everything. That's yeah. That's how you,
Starting point is 00:05:05 I mean, unless you're like a home, unless there's a team. I grew up where there was no teams in my hometown. Yeah. Raleigh, North Carolina. The Panthers weren't even a team yet.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What were they before that? They weren't. There wasn't a team. Yeah. How,
Starting point is 00:05:18 so how new are they? Yeah. Oh, wait, yeah, yeah, they were. They were a new team. They were a newer team.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Like 90s, right? Yeah. 90s something. So they were like a new team. Yeah. You know what fucking the Houston Oilers. That show was fucking dope.
Starting point is 00:05:30 They're gone. Anyway, go out and continue. So I was just like, you just like picked your favorite team. Oh, this is when I was in Georgia as well. Not even, I wasn't even North Carolina yet. So you just had to like pick your favorite team. So I was just like, I would go, I was on, I had like an NFL fever 2001. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It was a Xbox game. And Marshall Falk on that game was nuts. Oh, and he was on the Rams? Yeah. Oh, my God. He was like a 99. I remember that. So.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You remember that. Remember when Vic was like, dude, like, 2007 or some shit? Yeah, what did you say when, like, you used to say Jordan? Yeah. That's what you used to say. Jordan. For real?
Starting point is 00:06:07 When you play football, now, when I played football or, like, with my friends, I would always say, Moss. Yeah. Like Randy Moss. Randy Moss. They never got on because I've never heard that before. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I mean, I would, but whenever I would, we'd play two-in tag, I'd go, Marshall Falk. Yeah. See? You think, you think, you think, you think, people do that nowadays, like formal pop, pop. Brought me in up.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah, 100%, right? 100%. Yeah. But now everyone's like, LeBron. No, they say Kobe. Still, everybody, it's never been LeBron. It's always Kobe. It's still Kobe.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's still Kobe. But I'm probably younger. It'll be Kobe forever. It'll be Kobe forever for a lot for every call of duty except for me. I'm like, what the fuck? But yeah, like when somebody goes to dunk.
Starting point is 00:06:47 LeBron. Like you know what I'm saying like they definitely probably say. Oh, they can't even say Bronny because that's his son now. Yeah. Shout out to that dude, by the way. That's, uh, yeah, That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:58 You know what it is too? Like on the White Sox thing? Like, I don't, it's, it's the weird 90s dude in me, right? Like, I'll give you the perfect example.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Travis Scott, right? I don't, I've never listened to one of, one of his songs, only by accident or it happens to be played, right? You can put it on purposely.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah. So I like the shoes that he's making for Jordan. So at first, I'm like, I can't, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm faking the funk.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I don't listen to this dude. You know, and then I bought him, but I'm like, in the back of my head, I'm like, I'm buying Yeezys. You know what I'm saying? No problem. I don't ever release in a year. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So I'm like, I'm like, all right, it's cool. It's cool for me to wear this. If people ask me, then I just, I just don't listen to. I just don't want to be called, you know, fake in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:07:47 But it's always been like these fucking dumb rules that I put on myself that disallow me from enjoying my job. It's just annoying. I haven't ever bought like a, a hat that was a sports team. I've never bought one. That wasn't like of a team that I like actually like. Supported, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Or if it was like a friend's team. When I was a poser for sure. Were you? Yeah, I just tried to like match outfits and shit in high school. So like I'll be like a hornet's fan because it went with like one outfit. I'm not a hornet's fan. Like I don't even know what city they play for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Who the hornets play for? Charlotte. Charlotte. Oh my God. So that was like your team. The thing is, it's like in high school. in the 90s, the starter jackets were like a fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Did you guys ever? Those are the ones with like they had a sunshacket, a dolphins one. Give me the the bull started jacket from right there? Yeah. Yeah, the starter jackets. I'll show you. It's like a pullover quarter set.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Super puffy. It's fine. Growing up in the 90s, like growing up in the 90s. Growing up in the 90s. Yeah, look at this. I had Georgetown Hoyas and I'm like, I don't know anything about them. But it was yours back in the day?
Starting point is 00:08:56 These yours from back in the desk? Yeah. Super old. Now, imagine me being, what, $1.50 maybe? I was like a thin little dude and not a thin little too. You know what I'm saying? I still get them pounds. But imagine a super skinny meat in this big ass thing.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Like, you're probably feeling yourself. Bro, but the thing is, is like you couldn't because of, you know, Chicago in the 90s, like gangs. I mean, I'm sure gangs are still bad. But back in the 90s, they were like fucking, you could smash on side. SOS. Smash on side. I couldn't wear cowboys. right because that represented the five-point star
Starting point is 00:09:29 the kings and the area that I grew but not that I was ever in a gang right but you just knew about it but I just knew about it I'm just like neutron the cowboys are different this year yeah were the gangs bad where you grew up oh dude horrible yeah they're rough
Starting point is 00:09:44 who are the jets versus the fucking panthers who was it Beverly Hills College versus gangs of jerks and just Jay walkers just dick yeah so I mean they're having periods in time where I wore like Georgetown Hoyas like I never followed George John
Starting point is 00:09:59 but I love the fucking Navy blue with the fucking dog and shit so I don't know I wonder if these are going to make a comeback I've seen trends oh have you been to the wait yeah in Chicago I just went up there what's the mall woodfield mall wouldfield mega mall yeah the giant house mall they have entire there's two stores and the woodfield mall that just sells those really like the entire wall is lined with them yeah I bet you they're going for like a shit ton of money. At least $2002.50. Like I, Jude had the, Jude had like fucking seven of them.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Really? Because, well, there's like her, her brother, like everybody, you know what I mean? But I think hers was like the Charlotte Hornets too. The little. They're the best colors. Oh, they're super feminine. Feminine colors for sure. They always suck, but they're the best colors.
Starting point is 00:10:48 What? Fucking. A team. What, no, but what were their colors? Like white blue with like teal, right? Teal and like a purple in there too, right? Yeah. Like North Carolina, those were the Ambrose.
Starting point is 00:10:58 You couldn't wear North Carolina. Those are Ambrose colors. What? Ambrose? All the gangs. You couldn't wear pink, Imperial Gangsters? I mean, don't like... They rocked pink.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I wonder how... Yeah, that just goes to show... Like, branding is a really... Shatown Brown. The Shetown Brown, that's the weed. If, like... If there was, like... If good branding did, like, directly correlated with how good the team was,
Starting point is 00:11:23 Hornets should be up there, man. You know what I... me like people should be like I want to play for those shirts yeah there's certain teams like just have a certain drip that's how I feel like a different type of drip you know what I'm saying? See I like the pirates pin stripes like it looks clean
Starting point is 00:11:37 Pirates Pittsburgh Pirates Pittsburgh Pirates all black jersey Pea yellow peatish is kind of fresh dude remember when Miami University the college football team was like the most drugged out college team they always had the visors Who which team? Miami University is that the one with the orange white
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, yeah. Dude, no, no, I'm talking about it. I just remember every time I'd be like, who would not want to play in those? Yeah, they're so fire. Yeah. I don't think they've been good in a couple of years. Yeah. The other thing that was like these, like perpetrating rules is that you can't wear Nike and Adidas, right?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Like in the same fit. You can't wear, you know what I mean? But then, but then I'm like, I'm like, well, yeah, like Yiziz's, although Adidas, do they fall under the same, like, family? So I'm just like, I don't know what the rules are. I don't know that. I'm never going to wear like a Louis Vuitton belt with like a Gucci fucking coat. You know what I mean? That's perpetrating.
Starting point is 00:12:33 All these fucking rules, man. I don't care about any of those rules. I do care about the, like you're never going to see me in like a Red Sox hat. Yeah. Because I couldn't even name a player ever probably on the Red Sox. Ever? No, I could. Many, many.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I can name someone. Yeah. You know what this reminds me of. All right, check this out. We got invited, shout out to Kyle McCarthy. We got invited to the Cowboys game when they were playing the Eagles. Seth's like, I want to wear eagles, but I don't want to get my ass beat. I'm like, you better wear your fucking eagle shit.
Starting point is 00:13:09 You got to represent. I'm like, you're going to be with me, baby. You're going to be fine. And I'm like, what the fuck? One of the odds, right? Someone's going to come at you, like redhead kid with glasses. Who's going to say anything to you, right? And I'm like, Seth, you got to represent no matter.
Starting point is 00:13:22 If I would have had like a like a 2020 Even a 2020 Bears jersey I would have worn it But everything's in storage still But I would have worn my Bears thing The same way that I wore socks When I went to go see the Rangers My thing is is like at what point
Starting point is 00:13:37 Am I allowed to also cheer for the Cowboys You know what I mean? Now that I've been here When your team's out and they're in still That's the only time That's the way I do it But then Or just like if they're not directly
Starting point is 00:13:49 If they're never going to see each other You can cheer for both of them Yeah they're never going to see each other the pool ever so the thing is it's like in high school my favorite quarterback was also brett farb who played for the fucking packers packers bears obviously you don't mix those yeah so that was the thing because i'm like god so many fucking rules in what you can or cannot like man crazy how i used to follow the calves not like i wasn't a fan of them but i like used to know like what their record was and then lebron left and it's like i haven't even checked i don't even know what their season has been
Starting point is 00:14:19 like since he left uh so the pine park law Next topic. It went well. We can't discuss numbers because of certain things. But they're big numbers. Just fucking no. We made some history there. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I wish I could tell. I wish I could tell. You know what I mean? You want a Twitch leak, but for Pine Park? No, a Twitch league? A Twitch numbers leak? Oh, yeah, yeah. When Matt made $8 million?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah. In case you guys didn't know. No, we know now. Fuck. So anyway, it went well Let's How can you What can't?
Starting point is 00:14:57 And never mind I'm just not going to How were people hype Where people Yeah You know When you know When you went on
Starting point is 00:15:03 Like Twitter and shit And you scrolling through What'd you see people Fucking with the most Peanut Butter Breath Because of you and Hutch A peanut butter breath was the Buzmuzum
Starting point is 00:15:10 Sousousa seller Because of you and Hutch No bullshit It had to have been Because everybody else Like all the other Chronic That's there is good
Starting point is 00:15:18 Right From my favorite Cam Driver To Cam Reserve to grapes and cream. Like peanut butter. Peanut butter breath just sounds like something. It just sounds as good marketing.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It just sounds like something. I like the peanut butter breath. It's my favorite, but the reserve for me, it just looks like, there's something about it. I don't know. Just that green color,
Starting point is 00:15:39 it's not something you just look around and see. No, no, no. It was good. But anyway, now that it's available everywhere, well, for Californians, you can order online and do all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But it was, it was awesome to see. It was even better to see other people's reaction who aren't in the gaming industry see this thing move the way that it did because they weren't expecting that because they've seen celebrity brands in the past, but they never seen no shit like this. Like when the line was outside and shit, like they were like, well. That's the thing though. That's something that we in the gaming industry need to fix, right? Because we had a very, very good program and process where the line, nobody was waiting.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You know what I mean? Like there was people waiting if we would have made them wait. But the way that we process the whole section, like everybody's in and out, in and out, shake a hand, take a picture, sign some things, and then they were at the door. You have the taco truck out there? We had tacos too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. When can I get some Pine Park merch? October 22nd. Good question. It's going to be live. Three days, yeah. And you got like a box coming here, I'm guessing. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah, I mean, there's a box in there already. Oh, really? Yeah, of just the founders' t-shirts. Oh, okay. That we have to send a couple of people. but there was a lot of people from the gaming industry that came to see me wait sorry go go go go go go there's just a lot of people it was a really really good time uh the sales online though were like the fucking wildest
Starting point is 00:17:02 shit again like i i cannot thank everybody enough who if you're one of them to pick that up thank you and thank you it's awesome i feel like that out of the donline play too just as it drops it you just buy weed online in californ yeah yeah caliva dot com that's That's so it goes. I mean, so Caliva.com, you can do that in any state that's legal. They're massively publicly traded company,
Starting point is 00:17:25 which is another reason why we can't disclose. So, like, just a random question. So, like, if Hitch had owns, like a dispensary and he wants,
Starting point is 00:17:35 like, does he have to hit you up to, like, do you guys just meet in the middle? Like, okay, we'll just. No,
Starting point is 00:17:42 yeah, he puts it an order and then the distributor sends him all the shit. Like, it'd be like, we want X amount of units or pounds. So, So if customers are, if they keep coming into the places and be like, you have Pine Park?
Starting point is 00:17:54 And they're like, no. There's no peanut butter. I mean, there's some peanut butter breath left out there. But by the time that Saturday came around and the meetup came around, I think only like three dispensaries left had. Oh, shit. Yeah. Okay. So when you're buying it.
Starting point is 00:18:08 So when the people that are buying it online are dispensaries. No. You. For example, let's say you live in in Pasadena. You can go online. and order and it'll be, it's like a, it's like a delivery service. Okay. But also dispensaries are ordering for their personal stock.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. That's crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, it was awesome. But yeah, the p. The fast, how fast do you turn this around is crazy? Because it seems like one year.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Well, I knew you, I know you've been talking about it for a long time, but it seems like, it seems like just yesterday you were showing like the different brandings and stuff, like all the different possible branding. Yeah, yeah. Like the people that actually were like, all right, yeah, let's put it in. our shit. Yeah. Now they're with you for,
Starting point is 00:18:51 you know what I'm saying? They got ends on whenever they need it. Bro, they don't, like the amount, the amount that they ordered, right? They're like,
Starting point is 00:18:57 all right, we, it's like, all right, we want, let's say 10 pounds or whatever. Just didn't talk in numbers. By the time that an hour went by,
Starting point is 00:19:06 they sent a panic email saying, we need fucking more. That's how fucking while it was. Yeah. And then again, so the peanut butter breath was the highest, the highest testing one. It was the highest,
Starting point is 00:19:18 it was the highest, it was the highest, It was the highest testing from a THC percentage. Not that it matters, but if it, so, weed snobs are gonna say people who still chase percentages of THC like don't know. That is the fucking Terps. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Which is obviously like cool, but like let people fucking care what the fuck they care about. Anyway, high tester, you hutch and everybody else else at the party hyping it up made that shit go fast. I signed this dude's bag of the last peanut butter breath. He was like, this is the last one here. signed it and I wrote the last one and it was like in a package you think he opened it yeah of course I would hope so I watched their reviews like you gave me
Starting point is 00:19:55 Narmanicus you gave me a high five Yeah I watched that guys review too I think that's how you put on your story I went and searched the video yeah I was just watching them I was like yeah they were like taking turns and shit he'd stuff him like this is all you bump brother Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:12 The dude with the glasses was like all right Here we go It was a good time. Anyway, it was a success, obviously. So shout out to me. I'm kidding. I do want to say, I do want to say shout to the OpenS team, which obviously, we wouldn't have been able to get it up and running as quickly as we have. So super cool. The fucked up thing is, is that like I literally launched that vertical of a business so I can one day make so much money off of that that I can buy optic back. Like, that was my thinking the whole time.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And then mid, like six months into this thing, it was like, here's an opportunity. So I was like, all right. So now I was like, is that. So it was meant to be. It was meant to be. At first you were doing the whole other idea, which is still an idea, but you know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:02 No. I can't, I definitely can't say someone will steal it. Oh, the Cubies? Yeah. Don't talk about that. Tell me that's not a badass idea. Yeah. I got, the thing is,
Starting point is 00:21:17 that everybody has good ideas, the execution of them is a thing that's always going to be the defining factor. Kanye West changes his name. Wait, wait, wait, before we, can we talk about the Vladimir Putin thing? Yeah, what? Vladimir Putin congratulating Team Spirit on Dota 2, TI-10 win.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They won 18 million. They won 18 million? Five people won 18 million dollars. Holy shit. What? Crowdfunding. Wait, wait. When was TI-10?
Starting point is 00:21:44 A couple days ago. Are you serious? I didn't even hear about it. Me either. You probably did. You probably just like subconsciously passed on Twitter. I don't think I would have subconsciously passed 18. Well, no one's tweeting about 18 million every tweet.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They're tweeting like, oh my God, congrats spirit. You're like, I don't know what the fuck spirit is. What I am? I'm first thing I'm thinking about. I'm doing a math on the calculator after. No, I'm saying they're not tweeting 18 million. There's no number in the tweets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Congratulations. What the fuck I don't know what that is? On your 18 million. Look, what is every other tournament like in Dota? Nothing, I think. Really? Well, no. There's no.
Starting point is 00:22:17 There's some tournaments out there that you can make money. But no, yeah, who cares? Yeah, and 18 million is first place. Okay, it was 32 million. I think, right? That's insane. Isn't it like 32? But this is, this goes to prove.
Starting point is 00:22:30 This goes to prove. Look, let's just say this, okay? Out of that crowd fund, 32 million, I'm wrong maybe, okay, but it's around $30 million that was raised. Here we go. Where is it, Matt? 40 fucking million dollars. It was $40 million.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Look at the prize pools. 10,000, 60,000, 40,000, 7,000, 5,000, 40 million. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. This is, you want to hear a crazier, you want to hear a crazier, a crazier thing? $40 million is what the players or that tournament got to split.
Starting point is 00:23:07 The other 60% which is 60 million goes to Valve, which is, which begs the, which begs question at what point do shareholders of ATVI stock can say crowd fund the shit out of this please so that there can be an additional 60 million dollars made right because i can guarantee you that if there was an opportunity for everybody throughout the year to buy champs packs of the teams of the personalities and everybody gets their little little piece activation is going to get the piece at the end of the day, they're going to benefit from it. But at the same time, we are going to have some pretty cool moments where, man, $40 million is a fucking tainable. There are more people playing Call of Duty, mobile and otherwise, than there are any other
Starting point is 00:23:59 video game out there. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I think that that data point is not wrong. You think this year they're going to crowd fund the Halo Chats finals? If they do, it'll go nuts because everybody will back it. It will be the biggest. it's not on console anymore but it'll it'll be
Starting point is 00:24:18 holy shit it'll be the if they if they crowd fund that halo tournament it'll be the biggest console yeah tournament of all ever like well they already have the record right
Starting point is 00:24:32 yeah I think so with 4 million I think and that was with honestly no viewership that was the when CLG I talked about I talked about someone like but I don't want to I don't want to say because I don't know if it's happened or if we were talking about like
Starting point is 00:24:45 theories? Yeah, so we were talking about it and he was like, we were talking about numbers so I don't know if I'm like With snake bite you said? No, with Mike Flame. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So like, I don't even want to say,
Starting point is 00:24:58 just in case, just in case. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. I'll tell you what, though, if Call of Duty did a crowd fund, which is something that everybody's been asking for for over a decade, I think that we would have something to say about that number.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I think that we would truly have something to say about $40 million. You just saw right there the call of duty makes $5.2 million a day on average. Multiply. Hey, Siri, what's 5.2 times 365? 5.2 times 365 is 1,898,000. 1 billion, 898 million. No wonder.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Don't give a fuck. Check that math, Matt. Siri might be wrong. That's right. That's right. That's right. 800 million 1.9 billion
Starting point is 00:25:48 it's only two it's already two billion what's like the money off of what's like think about the how many people on there are 72 million people buying they got some really good skins though like I'm not gonna look at they had that scream one coming out yeah that one looks dope as fuck yeah so that's how like microtransactions is micro transactions is how they're making
Starting point is 00:26:07 making that money which don't get it which again again again this is a possibility for us to say, we will have a say around that number. Call it Duty don't mess around, dude. Call it duty forever and always will be the best and biggest social media community in game. So would they be matching? Like, would, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:30 Activition? Yeah. No, so let's say, let's say, crowd fund, let's say one, one, let's say by the end of the year that the champ skins sold $100 million. Okay, $40 million of that. And I'm making this up.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I'm just going off of what YouTube pays, creators off of their split. 40% of that goes to the league and the price pot and then the rest goes to Activision. They pocket that. That's for operation and all that shit. So it's not, they're not matching shit. I mean, they could.
Starting point is 00:26:56 They could keep 20 mil and match the other 40 to have an $80 million fucking price pool. Fuck out of here, yo. What the fuck? I'm hoping I get top eight. Yeah, real shit. Like, you're like going to get beat up in
Starting point is 00:27:10 for you. You're coming back. Immediately. Coming back actually sucking someone's getting on London. Oh yeah, but the thing, dude. Dude, that shit is fucking insane. That is, I like, I saw it. And I've known for a long time that Dota is crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Like $3 million, $4 million, but $10 million is insane to me. Dude, it's, I remember, look at that. The second place only got $5 million. It's like a 16 year old that like one back to back, one year, remember? Yeah. I love this. This is how it should be, right?
Starting point is 00:27:47 It shouldn't be that, like, second place shouldn't get $10 million. You know what I mean? I like that the majority of the priceful went to first place. Is first place 18? Second place, five thousand? Five million. Five million. And then three.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Five million for a second? They got a million each. I'm still high-fiving. Like, I'm still. That was a good story. It's going to sting right there. But then when you go back, you take that shower at that bar, you're like, I walk the and then someone's like, you're like, yeah, we're
Starting point is 00:28:12 Millionaire's voice. I'm like, we've got a mill? All right, bro. I'll be in a lot of you in ten. I'll be happy as fuck. I'm down a ring.
Starting point is 00:28:18 For a good title purpose of this podcast, this is why Activision should crowd fund this year. The thing, and I don't think they're worried. I mean, they don't care at all. But if I'm Activision, I'm not too worried about Dota because so,
Starting point is 00:28:36 they're such an anomaly. But what does, what would be a bad look is if, Halo comes back after not having a game for six years. Yeah. And immediately, because there's so much hype around Halo. Yeah. It's cross-platt. Yeah. It's on PC. Yeah. I mean, you've got people with that top 10 thing or that top 100 or top 30, whatever they did. Yeah. Top 25. Yeah. Top 25. Like that got so many people talking. Like, you've got Summit and Nick Merks and people chiming in that are that big. Yeah. So now you've got, they're going to play the game when it drops. Yeah. Everyone loves Halo. Halo. Like, Halo is going, Halo is going to have a research. that it hasn't had a very long time.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Had a very long time. A hundred percent. And if they bring in crowdfunding this year and throw a champ tournament in like November of next year or like the summer of next year and they crowd fund it, bro, we're talking $7 million, $8 million tournament. Yeah. If they raised $2 million in 2015 with Halo 5 when it was at a pretty bad state in my opinion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah. Yeah. Imagine, I mean, imagine what's going to happen next year. Definitely more than double. Yeah. And the fact that they are they are sourcing and they are giving orgs an ability to right off the rip, like have skins, I think is what they announced. That's sick. Now, the, I don't think, again, and I don't know if it's because Activision has like three different developers that can't get on the same page for a fucking reason.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I'm making that up. I don't know that as factual evidence. Don't quote me on that. But I don't know what it is that they can't get like a simple concept like this together, right? Like if they can't even get league play together, what do you think is going to be? Imagine if league play, I mean, obviously now we're getting into gambling and all sorts of other rules. But imagine if there was like, you know, caught points that are awarded at the end of the season for people that regularly play that. Obviously, an anti-cheat system would have to be, what happened to that shit?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Like people, what happened to anti-cheets? I saw something leaked the other day. Like something got something, they leaked some files or something. They were going around. What the hell? They're always getting breached. Chicago Huntsman. Literally the screenshot was like someone just,
Starting point is 00:30:49 it was just one folder there. It's like a paste bin and it's got a whole bunch of things. You don't know what the fuck? Did they just fucking choke? You see the fucking hacker fucking dude. It's like, let me replace all those with this. All right. Here's the patch.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Beepo, peepoo. Here's like, here's your guy. Close that folder up. Oh my God. Again, there. The future of video games and e-sports is like, there's no ceiling to it, man. Like, nothing cool has been invented yet.
Starting point is 00:31:19 We're still building this thing, and it hasn't gotten to the point to where it's, it's going to be like... All VR. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, think about it, right? Like, uh, Xbox minifree sold out in seconds.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Brands, influencers branching out into more e-com products. The fuck does that mean? Where's your thought there, Matt? What does that mean? Brands and influencers branching out into more e-coms. come products. One. Rather than Xbox is selling Xboxes.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Now Xboxes are selling mini fridges and they're still being sold out. Yeah. I got you, Matt. Yeah. Thank you for the explanation. I didn't know. So basically whenever, I think one of the consoles came out and there was a meme going around that it was looking like a mini fridge.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah. So then Xbox put out mini fridges. Well, no, Xbox had like fucking four total actual life size fridges. Oh, really? Yeah, remember Justine got one. I can't really. I just didn't got one. She probably gets some cool-ass-gifts.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Bro, she gets the coolest fucking gifts. You know what? She deserves a shout-out to her. That's sick. But yeah, look, I think that if video game culture and video game nerds, dweaves, cool nerds, whatever, we're always going to like video game shit. If there was an Atari, 2,600, wood panel, whatever, I would fucking get it. Why? Because that's what I grew up watching.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You know what I mean? So I'm going to be a fan of that regardless. this. It's just like, I didn't know that they went on sale, Matt. Did you buy me one? Okay. Huh? You didn't know? Yeah. So usually like I would want to get. I wonder how much they're going for on stock X. Oh, really? $600 apparently. Oh, really? Oh, so you're going to go. I'm about to fucking going right now. 300. Hold on. That's it. All right. Guys, we're going to go on a quick commercial break. We're going to say a little of sponsors while I purchased this refrigerator. I know you guys only watch the podcast so you can get to the.
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Starting point is 00:36:53 And we are back. StockX is obviously running slow so I can't make that purchase right now. But we come back to 100 thieves acquiring high ground periphery. Forerals brand. Look, if you are an esports company and you aren't looking at many different business opportunities to diversify in, you're not in the right business. You're not in the right business. Okay. At some point, I mean, can we talk about? Yeah. Fuck yeah. We can talk about it. No, actually, we can. A hundredth day acquired high ground perforals brand. That's pretty cool. What is high ground? What is it? From what I understand is a keyboard company.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It's just a, okay. Yeah, there you go. And what's cool about this, they did a good drop, right? Is that available? I agree. It's also, oh, I see it. So, the keyboards are fire. It's cool that they're like a keyboard, like, I mean, dude, they're so smart.
Starting point is 00:37:46 They're a keyboard like company, right? Yeah. So they, they buy the company, sell the keyboards, sell 100 brand, 100thes branded keyboards. Those sell out. And they also drop merch with it. Yeah. It's just, it's, it's a playbook, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:01 like it's the playbook you get them to go for the merch then they might grab a keyboard while they're there yeah well they're at it yeah like you can't afford the keyboard you just buy the cats that's still 70 bucks see the problem with that is that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:38:21 as they're shopping through their stuff like everything gets sold out there are people who have like three different laptops open and this one's dedicated to only buying the keyboard this is only dedicated to buying the hoodie Otherwise, you're like stuck in this, in this realm. But as you're adding these things, it sells out because you have to think, not everybody can afford to buy all the collection.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So some are going to be like, this is what I'm going for, period. And the only thing I'm buying while other people are trying to go for all of them are going to miss out on all because of the amount of time that it takes to do that. There's this dude that orders my clothes, like every time. He does, I've never seen this guy tweet me. Nothing. He spent over like seven grand. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:57 He doesn't tweet. He's just someone that buys the, but like, He's flipping that shit. You think he's reselling it? Yeah. I don't know, but I don't think I barely see. Maybe whatever. I think he might.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm like, I'm thinking he's like the, you know, like, hey, I bought a dish shop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't even see the dude. Shout out to that dude. Shout out of that dude. Yeah. So look, Fanatic has their own peripherals company also. They did it a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:39:23 There is something to be said about that sort of opportunity. And if you can, like for the longest time, I thought it was going to be, Matrix? Is there a Matrix keyboard? Something like that? I think the Matrix Keyboards was going to be the first one to get acquired, to be honest. High ground, I've never even heard of it until I heard a podcast by those two dudes that were super kind. Thank you so much when I made the the weed announcement. They said a little thing about that. So shout out to them. I'm happy for a man. I'm always a big fan of people having these sort of moments in in esports where they're having success. I've always one of one of those fancy-ass keyboards. The one with the coil
Starting point is 00:39:59 it yeah looks like a tire yeah like tired thing and then remember what clicky keyboards were like all the rage kind of one of those so I was like I want to what click one where you just feel cracked like yeah you just hear the mechanical part you're like I love that I love that yeah you can and when you're calming and people can hear it yeah like this guy's like holy shake gotta be cracked he's like where are you texting who's I'm just just hitting like back like strafing like those are my KPMs it's like 2a my seek my C Cs a minute.
Starting point is 00:40:31 CPMs. Do you see that, do you see that clip of Terek? So like Tarek's going, I think he went full-time content. He's, he's jiggle peeking at creeper in Minecraft. That's just hilarious.
Starting point is 00:40:45 He's got like 100K views. That sure's pretty hilarious. He was just sitting there with that I was like, he was playing so much like CS and VAL that he was like shouldering him. He was like properly. Shoulder get a creeper, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I'm happy. I heard that he was going into that realm, into content creator only. Man, that dude, he's dope. I wish all the success of that dude, man. He'll always be my brother. Yeah, I played with him like two weeks ago, three years ago.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Super fun. Yeah. Shout out to him, man. Miss him, miss him dearly. Let me guess. Have you had to Terek pick him up? He's expensive, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:20 It's not as easy as people, especially. It's easy, man. Just do it? It's easy. I think he's a free agent. All you have to do is ask them and they'll say yes. And if they want,
Starting point is 00:41:34 you guys tell Tarek where you guys want him to end up. Let's let's be a team here, okay? Let's try to land him together. We crowd fund. We crowd fund him on. We crowd fund his salary. Yeah. That'd be crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:47 This is the one. You probably could. Yeah, of course. You could crowd fund his salary. Of course. I mean, this is called Patreon? Patreon already does that. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Freshly retired formal. Yeah, you can have a Patreon, but you would have to like stream and actually give them something back. You can't just live. On my Patreon? Yeah. After stream? Yeah. Like is that like, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:42:10 No, you stream on Twitch, but your Patreon's. Like, Patreon is such a good, like, web, like that, that concept was fucking genius. The fact that the CEO is a fucking super creative, crazy good at editing dude is also a fucking big ass person. Isn't he the guy, isn't he in a band now? No, he was. Or maybe he is. I think he's in a band. Matt's looking it up now.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And I think that band is nuts. Like really good. Like Slipknot? No, not like that kind of. Just like a corn. Bro, tell me why Nick is the funniest fucking motherfucker ever. What? I don't know how we got to this topic, but he was talking about an emo ting.
Starting point is 00:42:49 You know what I mean? He saw some emo tics, some rock and roll ting, right? And then he's like, you go, Jack Conti. Yeah, Jack Conti. Pump. Pum. Pumplemoose. That band is.
Starting point is 00:43:00 is real good. It's real good. No, it's really good. I'm telling you, listen to Pompalum. Name one Pompamu's song. Well, they do a lot of covers. Okay. And the covers are really good.
Starting point is 00:43:12 All his songs are really good. Who wrote them? Oh, they're bad. The Beatles. It's like, wow, you're so good. Did you write this song? The Beatles did. Oh, that's fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:27 There's a show up, by the way. A movie called Yesterday. that it's a movie in which the Beatles didn't exist, but only one man knew that they existed. And one day he's playing a song. Oh, yeah. I've seen yesterday. My travel scene.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And everybody's like, wow, did you just write that? They're fucking crying because it's so beautiful. And they're like, what the fuck is the Beatles? And everybody's like, oh, my God, that's so beautiful. Like just wash over it. He's like, oh, my God, that's so good, blah, blah. Anyway, it's a fucking really good movie. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:43:59 It's like a comedy, right? What's the red, the redhead dude, fucking the super famous songwriter, popular guy. Ed Shearin? Ed Shearin was in it. Really? And they were like, fucking drawing a blank on it? Yeah, I was. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah. He said super famous redhead. Especially because we were just talking about how Seth got, yeah, exactly. Well, how scump got fucking trolled because of that. Anyway. Dude, did you, I didn't even know this until I forgot who told me, but did you, did you know that the lingerie company, Fenty? You know what that is?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. Rihanna shit? Rihanna? Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like the, biggest longer array company. Fenty is Rihanna's last name, like her real last name. I thought she was like an ambassador of the brand, but that's her shit. Yeah, yeah. That's her last name. She's a billionaire. She's a billionaire. She only has one name. She's
Starting point is 00:44:45 Rihanna. Like, because I was talking, I think I was talking to Roger and Page about it. I was like, Rihanna never puts out music anymore. Like, I loved her music. I thought a lot of music, man. And they were like, and then Paige was like, I doubt she'll ever release music at. ever again. Like she'll, she doesn't need to. She's literally, she's a billionaire. She's like a billionaire. Because of like this. She like works with Fent. She does like Fenty. And I was like, oh, I knew she does stuff
Starting point is 00:45:12 with Fenty. She was like, no, like she is Fent. That's her last name. I was like, what? I don't know. That's crazy. Her influencer list is crazy. Is it? Any. Anyone. Anyone. Yeah. Like, like, you know how like, you know how, okay, Kylie has her shit. but like she'll probably only select like her Rihanna shit I'm talking like if you just go to like a random YouTuber with 80,000 subscribers
Starting point is 00:45:36 and it's a girl and she looks good she's doing a fenty of all she's worth $1.7.1.7. That is more than Jay-Z look up Jay-Z's net worth yeah that's more than Jay Z and Jay Z put her 1.7 billion. Nice dude yeah I didn't even know that 1.4 all right barely okay shout out man, I mean, over. But that's,
Starting point is 00:46:00 I mean, that's, it's crazy he's worth that much and how, from what I know, how, like, how little successful title was or is.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Is title successful? I'm, I don't fucking know. Okay, well, see, no, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:16 I don't know. I think he just sold like a percent of it for like 200 million or some shit like that. Oh, did he? Some shit like that. I still have title downloaded. I'm so paying for every month.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Are you? Because they released, Kanye released an album early. one year that's why I downloaded it yeah like Kanye and Jay Z released his last album on it that's why he wasn't he's still pulling like 17 million a year just on his
Starting point is 00:46:36 on his on his on his on his catalog he shares on Jack Dorsey isn't that the guys in Twitter? Yeah he shares on Jack Dorsey no either oh yeah he sold to Jesus
Starting point is 00:46:49 yeah so he sold title he's just signing that shit like I'm down yeah how much I get yo look up look up look up Jayz's JZ's monogram deal Imagine reading that number in your contract
Starting point is 00:47:01 and you're keeping like a straight face. You're saying, no, that looks right. I'm not at, I'm not. Monogram. M-O-M-O-Gram. Monogram. 300 is emailed. There's like, here you go.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I'll PayPal you. So, Jay-Z's cannabis brand monogram launches with blah, blah, blah. Wait, what brand? Monogram. The all-stock deal to acquire Jay-Z's 50% of monogram has not close yet, but he is supposed to receive
Starting point is 00:47:24 5 million shares in the Parenthold. Look up, no, don't look that up. And then the right of, of one million more shares than parent company. So parent company owns caliva.com, coastal and all these other dispensaries. The parent company is the one that also brought me to market
Starting point is 00:47:39 on that. But let's just say they're really happy with it. The deal, which will pay Rock Nation $25 million in stock after the transaction closes and $7.5 million each year gives the parent company access to Rice to Rock Nation's roster of artists of athletes. That's pretty cool. That's great.
Starting point is 00:47:56 So basically, if they got a... A person, like a person who makes music, whatever, and he's super famous, they have rights to be like, yo, can you post a car? For example, if I had your rights, Pine Park, Richie Pack. Oh, okay, okay. You know what I mean? But you would get, obviously, they'll still get paid, but they have access to that if the artist is willing to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:19 That's crazy, dude. That's dope. That's it. That's crazy. It's literally like the, it's like the Beets Pils. What? Jayze owns Doucet. the man has done it right
Starting point is 00:48:32 sure you're right show you're right yo he got chicken let's go back to it mattie that's crazy though shout out to Rihanna man like you never see these I mean think about the girl that created Spanx
Starting point is 00:48:46 you know what I mean which is literally she just cut off the bottom I think about that shit all the time what's wrong Matt you think about what Spanx no not Spanx because he laughed it Spanx is
Starting point is 00:48:59 what do you call those? They're like underwear. They're not underwear. They're like, they're like, they're like, half leggings. They're like,
Starting point is 00:49:06 they're like leggings, but they cut the, the feet part. And then she went on Oprah and then she bought the fucking Atlanta Hawks or the Atlanta Cavaliers. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Oh, the Atlanta Hawks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Who owns Atlanta Hawks? Who created the zip tie? Bro, no, you know, you guys are fucking bouncing. Yeah, we are bouncing around.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, we are bouncing. Well, this, that's the thing. That there's so. what's crazy is that if you think about the, all right, there were Anthony wrestler, so many names, Jamie Gertz
Starting point is 00:49:36 Elena's, sure, yeah, I don't know, maybe I was wrong. I was wrong in that, but anyway, she was a billionaire also,
Starting point is 00:49:46 like, shout out to her, just simple reinventions of things that already exist is the name of the thing. If you look at how much zippers make a year, Matt,
Starting point is 00:49:57 how much does, the zipper bro it's yeah we're throwing you into a loop anyway so we have we already talked about that warzone Halloween event starts today are you gonna be playing that
Starting point is 00:50:12 you don't you don't really fuck with Wars on anymore right no not really but you do you heavily play that shit rebirth yeah rebirth bro I can't get Hodge and diesel to play rebirth and I'm like I don't know why it's like it's action packed and here I am sitting sitting at fucking stadium going towards fucking gas station a mile away and I'm walking and I'm like yeah this is not fun in rebirth you have action packed like well once you get to a roof shut the fuck up that's part of the game let's go get them off
Starting point is 00:50:38 that fucking roof at least we're not running yeah and this we're not fucking run that's fun to you that's the worst fucking shit ever is when you're like can someone get a car yeah man we're running and the worst hutch is like no no no no no let's not get a car they're gonna see us coming i hear somebody let's go fight man like you're fucking exploring i want to get into gun fights I think people that are actually playing for the dub on my team. I don't give a fuck about this dog. Let's get some numbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Holy shit. Yeah, yeah. That's why I'm just, I'm waiting for arena shooters. Or like for Halo and Vanguard. Like arena shooters, what do you mean? I'm,
Starting point is 00:51:14 I just, I think I'm BART out. Oh, okay, so you're looking for like the, I'm looking for domination. GBs. S&D GBs with no actors.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah. Wow. That's just going to be fun. Throw me a fucking hacker, man. Throw me a hacker. I think I can hold my... If I play it enough, I hold my eyes. Remember just posting and then you go...
Starting point is 00:51:34 Or you're finished the match. You just go to the match finder. Find the one with the green arrows. You just... Yeah. Give me someone... Let me see, like, the fire streak next to their name, you know? Yeah, you know, it's like...
Starting point is 00:51:44 60 and O, you're like... Yeah, I'm like, bad. Let's fucking... Let's make them... Let's make them... 60 and no. Yeah. Watch my cross real quick.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm like this, hutch. I'm not got to push. here I go Matt nothing on zippers the fact that he's in a vortex too yeah he's like he's like the fact that the game's gonna drop
Starting point is 00:52:07 20 what is it zipper zipper dot com like what's who's the company 20 million Y KKK look up YKKK Zippers YKKKKK Zippers one company one company
Starting point is 00:52:23 dominates the zipper industry no shot they're like an alpha they're the they're the monop they just so all Everyone else. They just like engulfed them And their zipper.
Starting point is 00:52:32 They're just like It's like every single one of those threads Of a zipper It's a company that they've acquired. Yeah, they just buy every zipper company It's crazy. It is nuts. Well, the company's worth 20 billion
Starting point is 00:52:42 So you guys know that. The thing is this, again, 20 billion. Bro, think about, bro, somebody invented Velcro got mega fucking rich of that. Somebody invented a post-in-no. Got super-
Starting point is 00:52:51 No one invented Velcro. Not going to let that one slide. What do you mean? Someone invented Velcro? Listen, man. It didn't. Okay. Does that mean?
Starting point is 00:52:59 Look up the Roswell UFO crash We got Velcro and GPS from Look it up Look up when Velcro was invented Were you saying aliens brought it? Google right now when Velcro is Wait, are you saying aliens brought it? Yes
Starting point is 00:53:09 You are aren't you? Look at who no what year What what year did we like Look at him he's full believing in this one too Watching a see he reminds one 1957 That's not long ago The Roswell crash
Starting point is 00:53:23 What's your point? And I look up the Roswell UFO crash Okay look it up Okay but how did he create it? Hold on hold on hold on just look it These are real hard facts What is it? No
Starting point is 00:53:35 47 so 10 years after that Yeah it don't take Yeah you have to I can't believe It takes 10 years to recreate alien technology 1,000% I can't believe you even bought that I can't believe you bought that
Starting point is 00:53:46 10 years apart If it was like a year apart I'd be like damn I'm trying to tell you But 10 years apart Where we got belkro from I don't know I think their seatbelts were
Starting point is 00:53:54 They were like They went in there like Listen if I if my seatbelt If my seatbelt is not made out of of fucking like metal So you're saying there's some trolley little aliens in the ship that have Velcro suits. Have you ever sat on an airplane seat and then you
Starting point is 00:54:07 when you pull it up? Yeah. Oh shit. Like Yeah. All right. Yo, let's close off the show. But let's talk about this fucking craziness, right?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Bank says that his $200,000 investment into NFTs is not worth $7 to $8 million. Really? Well, Bitcoin just hit 60. What? Holy. 60K.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That's the one. I'll tell you one thing. The one thing that I know that I'm not doing that I should be doing is NFTs right now. And I'm not saying me creating them, but it's also a plan. But me and buying and trading. But we had a discussion yesterday.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Who was it? Me and Flamesword. He came to pick up his bike at the garage mall. And he's like, yo, like you, like on NFTs, do you think that people collect NFTs the way that you collect this artwork? Like, is this artwork that you're going to keep for a long time?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Or is this something that you're just, just like getting to flip. And it was a good thought because my, my collection of art is for me to keep forever. It's not something that I'm going to sell. While I look at NFTs from the other perspective of, yeah, I might, I might, it depends on the rarity, right? That's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It just, I mean, how does he, is you just like saying it's worth $7, $8 million? Or is that like, I'm guessing he's got an offers for it. Well, if, well, think about it. If he's buying an NFT, for X amount of Bitcoin and the price goes up on the Bitcoin
Starting point is 00:55:32 I mean the NFT goes up right yeah yeah Ethereum Ethereum platform so the thing is Ethereum not Bitcoin Hold on let me buy this fucking fridge Now that makes sense right If that's like that much though
Starting point is 00:55:45 That's like a fucking That's a ridiculous increase That's like fucking 30,000% Like increased 200k to like 7 to 8 million That's a crazy jump That's not like enough For like an Ethereum jump Is there are there
Starting point is 00:55:57 Are there lower I see what you're saying. It's no way. There is. That's actually going up. Lower NFTs? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I can create one today. So there are NFTs. So there are NFTs for people like me. Like if I wanted to, if I wanted to really go crazy by like a $800,000. Yeah. And because you bought. I own this. Yeah, because you bought that.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And then like a year later it's worth $1,500. How is it worth that though? Are you like promoting it? I don't know. I have no idea. So the way, let's say that there are 10, 10. there's an NFT project that has 10 characters. in it. They're worth a dollar.
Starting point is 00:56:31 There's a bid that happens and you walk away with one at 800. Then you'll be like, okay, so now they're all worth 800. Oh, so it's a new price and auction. I don't know if it's through auction. I'm just giving you the thought behind it. But like one NFT dude,
Starting point is 00:56:47 somebody offers some dude $9.5 million for a crypto punk and the dude said no. Right? The dude said no. I'm good. It's fucking drunk dude. Would you have said yeah? Hell yeah. There's something going on, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You can't tell me there's not something going on. Yeah, 100%. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you know what it is? It's called revolution. Decentralizing our capital system assistance today. That's something. Someone is finessing so hard right now.
Starting point is 00:57:14 There's someone that's finessing that shit. It's almost like he spends 200K on it. And then someone who fucking made super crazy amounts of money is like, oh, I need to spend this. So let me buy this for $7, $7, $8 million. And he's going to sell it to sell it to $700. someone else that's richer than him for fucking 15 million. You know what I'm saying? It's like a pyramid scheme.
Starting point is 00:57:34 It's what I was starting to think. Pyramid scheme money laundering like there's some shit going on. Whatever it is I want to do something. You're just paying to gamble on it again. As long as I can buy and sell immediately and the money comes in. So if I feel like I've only seen success stories. Me too. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:50 That's the issue. Is anybody buying an NFT for a million dollars and then later it's worth 500K? Yeah. Nobody wants that. That's happening. Market move. Yeah, I mean, it happens, of course. But the value that could change again, though.
Starting point is 00:58:01 But it's not, like, failing is not as glorified as fucking succeeding. Yeah, but I feel like I have gambling losses. I mean, yeah, but you, well, yeah, they are. Look, Banks posted this. There was, remember that dude bioacid? Okay, and if I'm wrong, I'm so sorry. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:16 But it was one of the, one of like an Australian caster maybe. Yeah, bio acid. It may have been him that he was like, that he was talking shit about NFTs and how he doesn't. And Banks posted us on his story. Yeah. He's like. What do you say? He's like,
Starting point is 00:58:30 how ironic, right? Because this dude was talking shit about NFTs and how they don't make sense. But then he found a tweet from the same dude that says, I can't believe my dragon lore is going for $1,500. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Which obviously makes the perfect sense. I'm like, you're hyping up the fact that you have a digital item. Yeah. That's worth $1,500. Right. But you're talking shit about NFTs. Like,
Starting point is 00:58:54 do you even know what NFTs are? Yeah. Like you've been fucking talked about a year ago. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we're still looking. You know, I find out. I don't act like you don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You talk about this or you're doing. Yeah. All I'm saying is, I might see, the thing is is NFTs, I feel like that's like right up my wheelhouse. Like that's something like collecting something. Yeah, of course. That's what I've always wanted.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I feel like it's an expensive game. My, I know. I'm so scared to start. My one thing is like this NFT is worth X because it's connected to a blockchain, to the blockchain, right? the blockchain technology what is said technology
Starting point is 00:59:32 is what you have to figure out that allows you to understand that a little more. There's Ricky Banks Ricky Bankston also known as Banks. Look at all these fucking crypto punks. This is his gallery. This is his gallery. Yeah. So he owns all these. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:48 He owns all of these. Bro, the one that went for $9 million is the one below, okay, go to the all the way on the left, down one. Wait, someone offer him $9 million? No, no, no. Someone else is. But this dude dude didn't have a beard and had a cigarette in his mouth. 9.25 million or something like that. What was the awful?
Starting point is 01:00:02 I know. What? And every once in a while I see, and this is just my initial reaction. It's not how I actually feel. It's just my initial reaction. But whenever I see somebody say, and the artwork's amazing, I go, shut the fuck. Like, it's not about the artwork. It's not about, let's let's get that out. When I see right here, it's not there with all the colors.
Starting point is 01:00:23 That bear with all the colors. This shit is a a Pokemon card to you. a virtual you get to make it that's kind of cool I mean it is cool like someone just really fuck with that teddy bear and they made like three of them if I saw that teddy bear I'd be like
Starting point is 01:00:36 that's a cool teddy bear and then keep walking I wouldn't buy it but if somebody was like that's a $9 million teddy bear I'd be like yeah right what? No I might be interested actually
Starting point is 01:00:45 I'd be like why I kind of want it now for 10 mil wait he owns that one 100 ECHs bro the board ab like look it's like look at it's like two million dollars for
Starting point is 01:00:56 I don't know, man. It's like good for him. I'm happy for him. I hope that he continues to rise and do all that. Again, we're still looking for an NFT teacher. If you guys are, leave it in the comment section down below. That's what I do for this episode of the Optic podcast episode number 46. We'll see you guys on the next one. Shout out to the sponsors. Express for Pien and chime. Goodbye.

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