OpTic Podcast - DISCUSSING THE FAZE SITUATION | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 126

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

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The pride, though, of winning. The pride for winning would be nice. The dope getting from it would be like ungodly. But like losing to some shit-stained idiot. They're yelling at you. And like I let, yeah, they're yelling, teabagging. I let down the squad. I'm like, disrespect.

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but Optic 50 at factormeals.com. slash optic 50 and don't forget to use the code optic 50 to get 50% off your first box. Seth, what do you give us an intro to the podcast? Welcome to the Optic podcast. Episode 126, man. Been a lot of episodes. I say that every time now. I feel like it's not a lot of episodes.

I'm actually confused on how we're only on 126. Well, we're not kind of the ones that we used to do at the at the Scuff House with literally dirt and shit. Why is Matt mean mugging me? well my Matt looked like Matt looked like he got some son well we were out there in Toronto

getting some working I was not getting any son whoa whoa whoa whoa What We were out there in Toronto You came for a two-day Little vacation Yeah the boy

Listen the boys didn't perform The way that they were supposed to perform You guys can see in this dope-ass Event t-shirt that we're going to have at Vegas It happens man You know what It happens is what I keep telling myself They take it hard

Yeah Yeah you got you see my tweet. I was like it hurt when even I placed top 12. Yeah. And I ain't on that elite fucking yeah. You know like people are expecting them to be in finals. Yeah. Oh yeah. So for them to get top 12. They were that heavy fame to win. They had a good road. It was a good role. And it was like yeah, perfect road. Yeah. Everything was set up. Fucking Toronto phase. They were all on the other side of the bracket. Is that a fucking roach? Oh no. That's dude there. There's roaches in this place. I saw it. I saw it.

It was a dead one over there. I saw their playing. We got to, sorry. Exterminate? Sorry. Orkin, man. I saw they were playing Florida, and I just turned it off and went and worked out. No, Florida looked like the globe troders.

And then the next day, I come back. I'm like, we're playing today. And then Sebas was actually over. It was like, yeah, we lost yesterday. I was like, huh? Dude. He was like, yeah, three out. I'm like, what the fuck?

Florida looked like the globe trotters against us. And then they got 06th the next day. Did they? Yeah. Of course, dude. It's so annoying. When the shit stains, like, come out of nowhere. It's always...

Fuck up your journey and then lose. Dude, well, after the Florida match, we were predicting, like, a Florida phase, or not grandf-well, yeah, grand final. And then Florida got bounced. Were the games really close, though? Against us? Against us?

No. It was just like a, bro. We got fucking slammed. We didn't show up. We didn't go. We came in 12th place because we didn't go to Toronto. We did not, bro. We did not go to Toronto.

I don't care what that says. We lost our word. Didn't make the flights? No. People were making jokes like they love first class so much. They wanted to get back on the plane. That was good. They're making a bunch of jokes.

No first class for them no more. We do have a little excuse though, right? What? With ghosty? He was sick as a dog. No. Was that a saying? He was.

But in my, look, there's something that the young man will learn as, as he continues to, you know, to be around me, is that you can't tweet out. No excuses, but here's my excuse. He did tweet that out. But yeah. What I hate is how like we were on the watch party like literally breaking down why they lost like we didn't make a single excuse. But like I swear people don't know the definition of excuse.

Yeah. Because like we were like yeah, they didn't play good blah blah blah, blah, which isn't an excuse. And then they're like well that's an excuse. It's like, dude, I'm like what are you talking about? That's a reason. I was like, they didn't block on this and shit. And they're like, yeah, it's like, obviously they had a bad weekend. Dan was sick.

I think he wasn't sick day one. He wasn't sick against mutineers. He was sick against the thieves, though, I believe. But, I mean, I was talking to Dylan at the bar. He's like, we're a tough round one matchup. And I was like, it's a tough round one matchup to get thieves, losers round one. Yeah. Once I saw that, especially.

But same for, you know, them, though. They're like, fuck, I mean, I wanted to play Florida. thinking that? I feel like they get off when playing Optic. Who? Thieves. Sure. Everyone should get off playing us. Yeah, everyone brings their A game against. Yeah, you know everyone brings their A game against

Optic. It's always been that way. Everyone wants to beat us, you know, biggest fan base. What about the coolest dudes around? Where's the highest? Hottest bro. We took Seth on a shopping spree? Yeah, a little shopping spree.

Really? Yeah. Went everywhere. went to a drift, went to other streetwear stores. We even went into like a vintage store and then we ended up on Stone Island. Stone Island. Yeah, oh, let me get a pair of pants. Stone islands are nice. Good material. Dude, they're fucking confident.

I went ham in there. Yeah. For me personally. The deal was that I had to pick everything for him and he would suggest it and I'd be like, shut the fuck up. You're not picking nothing. It's like you got to where you got to, but, you know, he's like, let's go get some graphic tease.

I'm like, no. I mean, I was, I love graphic teeth. I mean, so, right. So, I'm clearly. Long sleeve t-shirt. I fucking love it. Yeah. I'm trying to see some of the fit.

But, but we were, we were, uh, well. Well, some of them don't fit anymore. After he gained five. I tried them on. Yeah, I gained five pounds while I was there. I'm not happy about it. Yeah, same. Well, bro, we get some stone island.

I'm like, I'm like, what's your waist size? And he says, uh, like, 34. I'm like, I'm 34. You're 34. You're 36. Uh? No, I'm 30, these are 34s. I'm 36 because I like to wear my shit baggy.

But yeah, I gained some weight back. I'll lose it again, though. Back to starving myself at home. They're always listening, man. They're always listening, man. But Toronto was great. I mean, despite the placing, I mean, the event was great. I was in with the food spots.

Honestly, kind of missing a little bit. Really? You know what Seth? I didn't want to put them up last, but man, I just. we didn't go to any of the places that he said like sugo marble we didn't go to like any of the places he said obviously there were some nights they were better than others like the the steakhouse we went to that place was that Caesar was fucking phenomenal okay but that was that was that very fancy steakhouse called Jacobson Jacobs 60 Jacob's something something Jacobson come whatever the fuck steakhouses are not where I like that is fine dining but that's not elevated fine I want to go to places where the chef is an artist and wants to show off you look at this look at Taroni I just kid Toroni was fucking oh my god

it was so good I stayed in one of the nights and order that oh the night that I left I can't believe you could order that get me either and guess what they didn't give me any fucking forks No spoons oh that happened to me too the other the other day where you were eating it with your hands bro I was in a hotel like I call downstairs I'm like hey

can I get a bottle of water can you bring me some cutlery please and I waited and waited my shit got cold and I ate cold food oh yeah that pop The cost or cold would not be good. No. But the event was great. I mean, Toronto is like one of my top three favorite cities, I think. Yeah.

Amazing city. Walking the city. It was good. Went everywhere. Weeds legal there. So, you know, people, I mean, it's good. It's a really, really good city. I would gladly live there for six months.

Gladly. You went out there, you went out for drinks and shit? They did. Hit the club. A couple nights we did, yeah. Not every night, but a couple nights. We went, little rogue, because we hung out with Mitch one night. that night was rogue because everywhere that guy goes.

The hockey player fucking superstar. Yeah, he's on the Leafs. And everywhere that guy goes, there's complimentary tequila shots to come out. It's fucking insane. Catching straight. I got to. Dude. So that place I went to with him, the Jacobs.

Like the steak, steakhouses are not my thing. Because the steak is going to cook. It's going to taste good no matter what. It's meat. Yeah. Steak is going to be steak. But my goodness, the fucking table side Caesar salad that they made there.

It was nice. They started out by cracking two eggs into a big as wooden bowl. People are going to start saying they're watching this right now, just laughing. Why? They're already like the process is going to be a travel vlog. I mean, no, no, no. Here we are talking about food. Yeah, well, it's just a food.

To be fair, we weren't the ones playing. We were just watching, eating, drinking. Drinking, eating. Having a good time. But this next weekend, we got Dreamhack Halo. Super looking forward to that. Dreamhack Halo this weekend. The weekend after that, we have Nate Schott's Bachelor party.

Nick's on the watch party, too, co-streaming his on his POV. He said maybe. Why? What the fuck? Why? Why maybe? For one, watch parties are my biggest streams. And I'm supposed to just like throw that all away to appear on a, to co-stream.

He doesn't want to. But co-streaming, let's me honest, co-streaming doesn't, it's not going to make everyone's one scump's stream. I'm not saying I'm not going to be on it. No, no, no. You can do what he does. That doesn't really like pop off. If it was like a cons for one,

I'm not saying I'm not going to be on it. Well, let me ask you a question. What was the last movie stream? But that's kind of irrelevant. Okay. Because I did take a little break from streaming. Halo's coming up. I'll stream Halo this week.

Watch parties are my biggest stream. Yeah. It's just like, it's hard to just like give that up to like be on set stream. Even though obviously it like, it would be. fun and you need some halo knowledge. Ain't no one twisting your arm.

Ain't no one begging you, man. If you want to come on, come on, man. You want to come on, come on. Yeah, it's just open invitation. Yeah, okay. We'd love to have you on, but I do get what he said. I get what he said. I get it too.

Yeah, they're just like, it's my biggest stream. So it's like it's hard. Obviously, it's not going to be as big with set streaming. You've got to be the biggest stream live. But it's just hard to be like, all right, I'll just, give up my biggest stream to come be on this. Yeah, but I wouldn't blame me. Maybe.

I wouldn't blame you. There's also a, I think like an open tournament and Ace was asking me to play. There's like a, hell you. The team's, please do that. Bro, I don't know if I can. You might fuck around a win with Aaron. Maybe.

I mean, he would probably, we, I'd probably have a team that could carry me, but it's like, I haven't played in so long. I've barely played the last like four, since Cod Rank has come out, I've barely touched Halo at all. Because the top six team. It's just like if I played, yeah, all the good teams are in the tourney. And then the teams that didn't qualify, it's not like their oars are going to like fly them out to play in this open tournament. So it might be a free link.

Maybe. But I don't know. There's a prize. Fucking, it's like $2,500 for first. But it's like, that's a bad total. The pride, though, of winning. The pride for winning would be nice. The dope getting from it would be like ungodly.

But like losing to some shit-stained idiot. They're yelling at you. And like I let, yeah, they're yelling, teabagging, I let down the squad. Just getting disrespectful. Yeah, I'm like three and twelve or something. Maniac, you're fucking nervous. I don't know.

In the pit? You don't know if you're built like that anymore? No, I think, I think, I'd show up and like, do pretty well. Hell yeah. My focus, my focus would actually come back because I just can't let that happen to me. Who knows?

Maybe it would be a jump start. Get back in. Maniac comes back. Replaces formal. Those times are gone. What a fucking, what an arc. Regardless of what happened, this will be a fun weekend. Formal said that he's not coming on because we are quote-unquote checkouts.

I saw that. I saw that. So I said, all right, formal, fuck yourself. Yeah, I saw that. he's kind of right I wouldn't want to talk to you guys before I'm fucking playing yeah before after though

after like if you're done for the day I could see it and if you're playing good but if you're like not playing so good like I can see not wanting to come on man you know begging nobody come home man you know be cool man be cool to have formal for sure but you know all the other boys are good too

absolutely I can't wait we haven't been to a halo event since Seattle which is where I got engaged I love Halo. It's always had a special place in my hearts. Basically the first FPS that I grew up playing. You used to be on the sidelines just watching the main stage. Hell yeah.

I love watching. Cod would be on the little side stations over there. And you got Walshie up here. It's Seth just on the side. Oh my God. It's Walshian. Oh my God. It's the Roy Twins.

Oh my God. There's Mania. Dream hack. Wait, who is that one? Who's that one? The red head. Wait, that's maniac? You were doing your thing, man.

Isn't Dreamhack a massive fucking event? I feel like I had to have been to one before, right? It's not just going to be Halo. CS, Fortnite, I think. I don't know the other games that I bought. It's about to be a shit show around here, isn't it? Yes, Fortnite. This is like the biggest.

Is Dreamhack about to be the biggest event? Dreamhack is always huge. Like hundreds of people, like thousands of people. 50,000. It's like a convention. I'm like a convention with tournaments. See like yeah. Like Tyler 1's gonna be there.

I haven't drank since. Hungry Box. I mean, it's gonna be crazy. I wouldn't be surprised of like a fighting game's there. Like smash. I just,

hungry box. Probably fucking furries and shit are gonna pop out. You know what furries are? Cosplayers? Yeah. That have tails? It's gonna be crazy.

This might be the weekend. break my cosplay, there it is. My drinking streak. Well, I will say this. What I am looking most

forward to is obviously seeing the boys win, but the second thing that I'm looking most forward to is the hot wings at the owner's box. I am talking about the best hot wings that have ever been hot winged

in the history of humankind. Wait, where is this at? I didn't even, I didn't even seen this yet. Here. At the convention center. Next go out of me.

Oh, okay. And then for breakfast, if we can get there early. I'm down to have some wings. Dude. Where's the, where's the Halo event? Trust me. Where's right?

H.S. From Texas Spice in the morning. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be dope. I can't wait. I love, I love live events. IEM, CS go. Of course they got a fucking just planetary-looking stage.

Just a UFO. Wait, where's the HALO man? Halo's top right. CS is far left. Yeah. Dreamhack Fighters is right next to H-ES. I mean, it's gonna be fucking dope. Look at that.

Matt, see if, uh, who's, let's, let's, let's, going to list of teams that are going to be here and see if we can shoot some eavesrops. This is right down the street. I mean, I'm sure IEM. I am is a pretty big CSGO tournament, so there might be some top dogs. Have you done an eaveshot with Lucid? No, perfect timing. I feel like he would be a good.

Did I? He's just like good. I remember, I remember, I don't remember what event it was, but Dallas, I remember, that's whenever I like went up and saw like Olaf Meister and all that. It might have been another dream hack. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Lucy would just be a good guess, I think.

Well-spoken, smart. I don't know how he's so good, but... I'm sure he's got a lot to say. See if simple's got a lot to say. Has it been living on the panhandle? Any alligators? Where you're from? Anacondas.

You ever see that guy on TikTok who just walks through the Everglades? Look at this water puppy. He's like dragging a fucking... A gator, like a big-ass gator. He's like, look at this little water puppy. And he's just dragging it. He's like, he's asleep. but he's not waking up.

Yeah, oh, bro, it's crazy. You know, watch that. This guy's insane. There's like 15 alligators. He's like walking through him and splashing. He'll just pick up snakes and shit. Be like, yoink. He'll be like, don't want to step on that guy, though.

That's a copperhead. Bro. Dude, he's a madman. There was a guy in Florida who went outside of the bar because there was a long line at the bathroom, went around the corner to pee by the dumpsters or by the lake, and he got his arm bit off by a fucking alligator. Matt, bring that shit.

Wait, where was this? In Florida. Yeah, see. Florida man shrugs off losing an arm. He's like, it's not the end of the world. There he is. Wait, he went off to just like piss somewhere. Jordan Rivera fell into a...

Banditos bar. So he was at a fucking bar. Yeah. Goes outside the bar. Oh, bathroom's busy. Oh, you got to expect that. Yeah, like if you're out there. Like, you're going out there with the iPhone light at least.

Bare minimum. I'm not going out there. Yeah, if I know there's alligators, damn, that's a little cat in the front. Oh. That's what's crazy is that- What's crazy to me is that he's missing an arm, but he's in so much shock. Yeah. I mean, he's in so much shock and there's so much adrenaline going through his body.

All he goes, he goes, whoa. Like- You saw it? So you did see it? No, no, I didn't see it. But the fact that he like has that much adrenaline going in his shit. There's a video. Oh, there's a video? Lying on the ground and everyone is like, yo, he's in shock. Get it. Get it.

Get a tourniquet, get a tourniquet. And they're fucking squeezing the shit out of... I mean, was he left-handed, right-handed? Like, he lost his right arm. I mean, that's fucking crazy. It's so nuts, bro. But he was laying around. He was like rolling around and everybody was like, yo, calm down.

And he's like, uh, he's going into shock. He's going to shock. And then he starts screaming when they apply the tourniquet. He's like, sorry, dude, we got to squeeze hard. Because you got to think about... You got to cut off the blood vessels and shit so you don't bleed out. I mean, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, he would have been gone.

In 60s, you get cut here on this main artery, you're gone in 90 seconds. No, Angelina Jolie. Goodness, man. That is terrifying. Crocodiles are no joke. Yeah. You know, again, not the weekend that we wanted. We have nothing but forward to look too.

Okay. We have Vegas. We have this week in Halo. We have a good road for champs as well. Yeah, did it? Did this shit help? our bracket who was I talking

I think it was Hitch and he was saying our bracket now or we just have a good bracket for champs I don't know if us losing so getting top 12 helped us with the

we had second seed because we had second seed pretty much regardless there were a couple scenarios where we got overtaken so like the only other thing that could happen was like Toronto jumped over us

and we would have played like rocker round one or like shit like that what seed are we going into champs second oh shit So we play Boston Yeah but we're on the good side

I mean to be fair like Boston right now No disrespect But kind of disrespect They're probably the easiest team in championship Yeah yeah yeah really Right now the way that they've been looking But obviously we didn't look that great this weekend either But out of all the teams there

It's like Boston surge has been struggling a lot But other than those two teams like everyone looks good So Minnesota's like a Florida team Right I would say Yeah They're better now. A bit better than that. They're better now.

Yeah, they're playing a lot better. And then obviously, I mean, but we say that it's going to be like an easier road. We have the champions on our side as well. We have New York on our side. And they looked unbelievable this weekend. They're searching destroyer crazy. It's going to be a crazy weekend. Shout out Troy send her motherfucker.

Yeah. Shout out Troy. Congratulations, dude. Yeah, really happy for him. Saw him backstage and I was like, yo, am I going to see you out tonight? He's like, yeah, I'm going to get fucked up. I was like, good for you, Troy. Whipping his hair around his shit.

He was loving it, man. Yeah. Congrats to them. I mean, it was a great tournament to watch again. It's obviously a little bit upsetting how things panned out for our team, but that final was crazy to watch. Hydranemal. Crazy.

Yeah, first game seven. Yeah. Finally. Yeah. Some content. Five to come back from New York game five. Like, that was the tournament right there.

It's crazy. Crazy alcohol did you do you? Crazy. You know what else was crazy? The NBA. Oh my gosh. Right? fucking

listen I have enough conspiracy theories about this past but the NBA is really on some shit now we watch the end of game six once you start fucking with that prize fix

you'll see you'll see bro Taco Tuesday I'm not hitting on Taco Tuesday half the motherfuckers points how did you know there's no way

there's no way they're too good at it come on I don't know how they draw their lines but yeah we watched the end of game six like we all got back from I think we were at dinner or we were out drinking or something but we all got back

and we watched like the last five seconds when he put it back dude and I thought I thought right there the heat we're going to lose that was insane yeah I thought the heat we're going to lose right there they are compromised yeah they lost at home like that now they got to go back to Boston and then they beat them by 20 game seven

like yeah I mean I don't know I don't know if Tatum's ankle had anything to do with it they just you know they just didn't do it for me regardless of the fact like it's it's it's Denver's fucking championship they're too big yeah in every single joker yeah I mean he's god's gift yeah I think they want to be honest you think you think joke is better than Luca hell yeah they're the same size right no same size oh how big's the joke seven foot so is so is six seven is I mean six seven and seven foot that's

That's five inches. That's five inches. In the paint, that's big. Probably add like 50 pounds to. Yeah. Joker's, I mean, I think Denver. He's a glitch. I think Denver one.

But that was about to be, weren't they heat up three oh? Yeah. That was about to be the first. Oh, that would out in that. They could, dude. Give me a second, guys. Let me say hello to the sponsors really quickly. Rocket Money being the first one, a longtime sponsor of the podcast.

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That is ROCKET.com slash OPTIC. I'll allow you to misspell it this time. But only this time. You know, at first I was going for Miami because of Jimmy Buckets played for the Bulls when he did. And then eventually I'm like, man, you know, Celtics are the only other team I've liked outside of the Bulls. Maybe now the Mavericks,

obviously because we're here. But yeah. Especially after the last dance. Like I'm on some fuck the Bulls. I did finally finish that. I'm on some fuck the Bulls organization the way that treated Michael Jordan. Yeah.

No bullshit. Wait. You don't put with the Bulls anymore? No. Hell no. Not the organization. Because Jerry. Krause.

Yeah. Yeah. I just, it's just. Did you hate them back then? Yeah. Or did you when Jordan? No.

It was very open. Why did they Like they could have just like Resigned like one year contracts like But they but yeah they could have They wanted to rebuild Yeah And then like since rebuilding have they done

Literally anything They haven't won Have they even came close? They had a good or Maybe the beginning of this The ordinary whenever Lonzo first got hurt That whenever he got hurt That before that they were the best team

In NBA They were like Lonzo But like right before he read Like his most whatever most recent injury is yeah before that they were on like like they were on like a yeah I heard too they were on a tear like they look good and then he got hurt even even back then when they got rid of Jordan and everyone you you start hating them back then yeah didn't watch them no more didn't watch any basketball

yeah I finally finished it it is crazy that's got to be the best era right of course you're gonna say so of the NBA yeah it's objectively I don't know I feel like I can feel the magic behind it. There is something special. Nowadays, it seems like it's just like it's just another NBA season. People are just showing up for paychecks now. People have social media. They got brand deals.

Back then, like, it was about, like, I'm not saying that there aren't any current basketball players that are not in love with the game. I'm sure there is, but not at the level of everybody else. Like, there were superheroes back in the 90s. Like Call of Duty then, Call of Duty now.

Exactly. Everyone back then was playing for love of the game. There's still some superheroes in NBA. There's still some superheroes. Trying to get paid. Not like before. Curry's not a superhero.

Curry? Yeah, again, but not like before. Like before you had Chris Malin, you had Clyde the Glyte Drexler, you had Kimbi Matambo. Matumbo! You had, yeah, you had like, you had like fucking Charles Barkley. You had David the General Robinson. The Admiral? Admiral?

Yeah, the Admiral. Anyway, it was 90s is the best era period. I don't know, though, because. Story period. I feel like what I grew up on like Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, Alan Iverson, that might be the second best area. Yeah, 100%. No, because it was still tail off.

You saw Alan Iverson crossover Jordan. You saw that. And that was magical because it's like, oh, my God. Kobe famously once said that he said, we should all be thankful that AI isn't 6'3. Yeah. What was he? Or is 6'3 or isn't? Isn't.

What was he like 6'1? I think he was like five You think he was like 5.11? I think he may have been six Yeah, six even. So my height. My height.

Did you see Scotty Pippin said Fuck Scotty Pippen did. Scotty Pippen said Michael Jordan was horrible. It was horrible before Scotty joined the squad.

And I'm like, you know what? Might be on to something. Michael's out there drinking. Listen, all I'm going to say is that this is not the first time. that he has said that shit and since he said that shit while we were still living over there

since he said that shit I would walk past his statue and every single time Judah wanted to take a picture with his statue I said get the choice over here no you're not I think I feel like

they got some like internal beef well yeah he didn't get paid but that was his inability to do a good contract and his wife is out there with Jordan's fucking son that's the real backstory that is now the backstory

the truth what happened Larsa Pippin she's with Michael Jordan's son Michael Jordan's son is with Pippin's ex wife. And right now, and right now Scotty Pippin's son. He's pimping Pippins.

Scotty Pippin's son is in, on the Lakers, playing alongside another dude that was with his mom's. That's like. That's a stomach gut wrenching. At that point, the only way to disconnect, you cut her off.

Don't. Stop talking to moms. Fucking nasty. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you have to. You fuck on my reputation, my paper, for everything, man.

You can't even concentrate. Like Jordan's son, not even Jordan? Yeah, like. You went for the air of air? Yeah, like. I don't know. There's a number two topic. It's about phase clan still.

Grace Van Dean. Who is the daughter? I didn't know this. I mean, the name sounded, the last name sounded familiar. Chrissy, wake up. Yeah, that's from Stranger Things, right? I don't like this, yeah.

Okay, but her dad is part of, her dad was also an actor. I was in the, I was in a movie with him called Nubes. What's his name? Huh? Right there. Casper Van Dene, who also is part of a fucking incredible sci-fi movie from the 90s that I suggest. Starship Troopers. It's so good.

That shit's crazy. It's so good. good. It's really, really good. You guys should watch it. Yeah, I've seen that movie. They picked her up. They picked her up for what? They picked her up to be a streamer.

Oh, she streams? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, she's a streamer. But, but have you been keeping up with this thing? Have you seen any of the videos? Because we should watch them. I saw the tweets like I, like, I know once Banks and Raine gets involved and they're not on your side,

you're done. Yeah. Yeah. You're done. They can verbally. She's also really bad at, like, damage control. like she did not I feel like she didn't do

not saying she deserved what happened to her I don't think I think what Rain said was a little ridiculous but what do you say that was ridiculous

uh you're mid and I wouldn't let you touch me on my drunken night yeah but he did say that after she said she's like you're not isn't that a little ridiculous yeah it's like

the thing is like she said it's like you're the only reason I know you is I know you as a guy that almost OD'd which is like yeah no no which is which is what I'm saying she is horrible damage control one rain fucking destroyed her two she's horrible at her fucking come back she said lunches this was uh he says I don't know what a trick shot is you're right play the video I don't and I know that's kind of what you're known for but I know you rain as the person who almost overdosed on the live stream and I know that you are better now and I'm really proud of you that is weird

That's just like a jab in that. Anybody that's proud of somebody that they don't know, I can't believe it. It's like, yeah, you only know me from stranger things, but I only know you for overdosing on stream. But you are really proud of it. You're better now and I'm proud of it. What the fuck?

That's so weird. And then if you say it is, they'll be like, what do you mean? I just told you on happen. It's like that fake weird, weirdo shit. That's just a dagger. I'm going to tell you something. She did get verbal kind of for.

Yeah, I mean, daggers are just being thrown. Stray's just for. joining the org by this is this is but but okay one it's not her fault that that happened but it's very clear that there is a massive disconnect between the oh gs and that i don't want to talk about the face antenna thing because like i think i mean he's the when i started it right yeah i just i i i i just the do was fucking out of pocket for sure yeah right for sure and then it is and you know what to be fair like that's not the first time that he he sort of like stumbles on his on his words uh but i just i i truly do feel bad and i

know that a lot of people are like, oh, like, will you sign the contract? Like, you were well aware if the stock was worth what it was stock when you were at first were public, would we be hearing from you, blah, blah, blah, like all that shit. But people who who have never built something that big will never understand that. We get it because we were there at one point and we had, we built something that we're fucking mega passionate about. Nobody else truly gets what that feels like, seeing what you worked your ass off to create for other people to benefit from to just simply like have people who have never like this the dude the current the current guy Lee Trink who who I've spoken to in person I did an interview with him in person you know this was

back in the day when when everything was like going going okay um but like the dude's got founder in his name like CEO and founder and I'm like you you're not a founder like and that that's the guy they're all leading I don't know I don't know but he is the CEO right now. All I know is I hope to stay out of drum like this. Yeah, bro, fuck that shit. That's why I don't. Think about how good we did. Like, I don't know.

Santana should have just never tweeted initially. Especially go back. Like, when he goes back on? Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's like if like Seth and Nate disson, like I throw shots at Seth and Nate. That'll be weird. One would be weird.

Two would be dumb. Three, there's no fucking. winning that no matter what. But yeah, no, that's actually a good point. I mean, drama gets eyes on you. I mean, I kind of see both sides, though. Sort of. I mean, I don't know

why he said anything. But I mean, like, he's like him and the Nukeswater, like sort of doing their thing, like Swag and Jay, like they're sort of doing their thing for days. And it's like, I think he feels disrespected by the OGs, but

he's also riding off of what the OGs. did. Yeah. Like pretty heavily. It goes to show, right? Like every time that an agent calls me and he's like, hey, these guys' contract are about to expire, they really want to join Optiq. I'm like, oh, that's awesome.

Are there any other orgs that you guys are talking to? It was my first fucking question. And he's like, oh, yeah, they have interest in others. I'm like, not for us. Not for us. Simple as that. For us to go out and just put our logo on a big fucking streamer, that doesn't hang out or doesn't like know us or like that makes no sense to me because at that

point we're just a fucking sponsor the same way that they have other sponsors up there so like that that that's never been our approach will never be more intimate it has to be more intimate and i think that that's what that's what these guys are fighting for right and you know the thought that why aren't they in content nowadays is like what what more do you want from from banks rain temper apex fucking adapt and Blaze and and Rugg. I mean, they laid it out pretty fucking. Yeah, like what the fuck? You get to benefit from one of,

if not the biggest, e-sports, call the duty, or not call it it, ESports gaming brand out there from a team perspective. Like, what else do you want to do?

They already did all the fucking work. What else do you want? They paid the road. They laid and paved the way. You can make YouTube videos of rug. Yeah. I think people are just complaining that they like kind of disappeared. And now they're coming back complaining.

where it's at. And then people are just like, well, where were you guys at? No, it's their right, though, though. But also, I have no idea. They could have been behind the scene for years. They could have been like,

I mean, it should be fucking, I mean, they don't cause uproar it. I mean, it's just, it's not like anything was going amazing for them, you know what I'm saying? They might hate this, the new CEO or whatever,

and they're like, fuck this. I'm not doing anything for days. I don't even think that that's the reason. I just think that the current decisions, and once they found out that other people, like, fucking staff people were getting ownership

before them, It does a fucking issue. People like getting picked up while others aren't getting paid as much. Like that's different. And I guess somebody said something. Did Kylie say something, Matt, about the situation? Because I think, I think that people were saying that that FACE is making a big deal that are picking up this very innocent person, right?

Like she had no, she was catching strays in a sense. Yeah. But people were saying that they're doing stuff for her, but they never did anything for their current pickup, which is Kylie or the pickup that was supposed to to, you know, is one of the girls in phase, right? If not the only woman in phase?

Right? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's levels to that that people just assume that just by picking up big people is like the things to go. I mean, I also feel bad for her because now like this cool thing, she joins phase, obviously. It just gets like now it's just a fucking

shit storm. It might kind of work, though. Like, I would have never heard about her. if it wasn't for any of this. Drama gets eyes. I'm sure her stream gets a lot more viewers, probably getting a lot more subs. I don't know if she does like YouTube or whatever,

but it's probably kind of. I mean, it's definitely a stressful thing to live with. And I wouldn't want to live with that much stress and wake up and everyone's shit talking to you every day. But it might work out, especially if the number four right there, rain apologizing, then they make a video together. than everyone's friends.

The rain apologizes once what was this? I actually feel bad I wasn't being serious and I shouldn't have said the last part oh that's the mid stuff but first I won but I just didn't want to

I didn't want to hit without it yeah I already contact the grace and I'm going to talk to her about apologize I have zero problems with her she's not she's not fuck where rain and that's how it should be

that's how it should be now if they make a if rain is funny now if they like collab on something And it's like, this really is like almost how you're supposed to do it. So drama, some fucking public beat. No, rain.

And you get together. Rain played it right. It gets hell of views. Then both people are like really relevant. You see how she hit rain with the, uh, I know you guys, but I'm really happy for you now. Yeah. And he hit her with the, yeah, apologize, make a video. But I mean, they're not going to make a video now because it's, they'll never make a video.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, no, because now it would be benefiting people that. that he doesn't want to work with you know what I'm saying so any work that they put in flip the script on the work that they put in benefits the people that they are against or the people that are driving face into a very very weird path they're against the people that have the mind of like picking her up yeah doing a video with her yeah would be would help the people that made the decision to pick her okay make it like that side it's all fuck bro

See, and then they're probably like, see if we, we pick them up, y'all work with them. Like, boom, this whole thing will explode. If they can, if the OGs came back from Faze and, like, started doing videos and shit, that shit would. Just give me bang to me. A hundred percent. Give me bang to log. I mean, bro, think about how good. But the thing is, with Rain, Rain, Rain has always had a good community and people have always, like,

fucked with him forever. So his views were going to be there regardless. So anybody that says that he's using this drama to, like, sort of, but not really. Like, his views has always been there. I mean, it's just the way the game goes. Yeah. I don't know. I hope.

Talk it up to the game. I won't be surprised when they get it back. I won't be surprised. They'll be interested. They don't do it right too. They just need to get it back. I mean, they're like. The thing is like as a management group, as investors, the first thing that they give, if I was talking to those investors, I would say, do whatever it is that you need to do right now to get this back to them.

However, they want to fucking do it because nothing else matters. Yeah. Because what you're doing right now. is is is is is is plugging and putting band-dates on shit that is just not going to last is it's just not a lasting thing period I feel like it's maybe some ego shit to where like they really want to prove that they don't need the OGs they don't need their support they don't need their have we heard that before I don't know if it's going to work I mean well okay I do I do I will say this I should me maybe I won't

but I think there needs to be some fucking unity and there is with the OGs. Unity. Sorry. Dave Chappelle reference. Yeah. Unity. Punch him in the head with his ring.

I think there has to be unity from, from the new school guys. Like, I know Tico's now living with the NukSquard. Yeah, they get Tico. Well, Tico's with Nuk Squad living with the Nuk Squad. Yeah. So Swag's there.

Swag gets it one thought. Yeah. Swag, that's why swag stays out of it. Yeah. He knows. But the thing is, like, swag was fucking immediately texted fucking Santana. He's like, yo, take that shit down. Oh, God, he'd probably do.

He's like, what the fuck? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Because, you know, swag fucking gets that shit. Yeah. So swag gets that shit, right? So I think from that camp and the new, I don't know.

I don't know. You know what? I hope the boys are able to fucking save this thing because if, if they are not the ones running this shit, phase is going to, the brand, let me rephrase that, the brand with those boys behind it will live on forever. The second that that brand gets separated from those

dudes, it's done. It loses all loss, it loses all credibility, loses fucking everything. And no matter how many people they pick up, it'll never be the same and it will never have the same impact. So I hope Banks rain. Let's get it. Banks, go, rain. Time to fucking clutch. My man,

Tommy. Time the clutch. Time to clutch. Let's go. I just don't understand. I just don't understand. I just don't understand how investors and e-sports just can't see the most obvious fucking shit in there. Protect your money by protecting the shit that you invested in. And that's by Cohen with you.

I found that. Anyway, all right, everybody. We're moving on from there. In lighter news. In lighter news. Contestants chase cheese down a hill. I've heard about that before. The cheese chase.

The wheel race or some shit like that. Yeah, they put... Bro, I don't know. They send a block of cheese roaring down this hill, and if you catch it, you like... You keep it? Nah, it's like a thing, bro. I've heard about it before. That shit's probably heavy shit.

Yeah, I was going to say, people got to be walking out with injuries. Oh, broken bone. Can we see video, thank you. Bro, like, how are they... Chase it? Yeah, look at them. How do people not get injured? Why are people running down instead of sliding down?

You know they are all hammered, too. Oh, fuck. Where's the cheese? It's like fucking human plinco. So what is the object to catch it? Because ain't no way anybody's catching that. This has to be in the UK. Well, I can tell you that I don't see any Mexicans up there.

And I would be like, all right, they're trying to make some Gassadillas. And that's the best cheese to make Gassadillas with. That thing is moving. There's no way they're catching that. And if they do, they got to get a crazy prize. Oh, my God. Bro, I did hurt playing. I joined a kickball league.

fun fact I get hurt playing kickball there's no way I can do this shit Who'd you join a kickball league with There's some dude I know around here What that guy is He asked me to join his kickball team Well you did it do

I want us to Well you say you want us But you know no one's making the fucking effort Like I ain't that the truth Like I want to play ball I want to let's play basketball Look at this guy

I'd be down Oh Seth can play now He doesn't have to worry About his precious little fucking hands True Would you be down for a basketball league My point is I get

Only if you want to see me cross fools up Yes Alright here we go We got three I'm now for a basketball league If we actually run the league And have like teams like And only let fucking shit nubes by

So we could have like real game I mean then I can't play because I'm fucking wet That would actually be super fun Yeah Sounds profitable This is what we need to do If we want this to be Sounds like there's some dought to be made by

Opportunity. If you want this, if you want this to be an actual thing that we do, actually, you know what, the last page to get that set up? When's the last time y'all played, though? Basketball? Because I don't know what it is, but my body's falling apart. It's been a minute since that.

Why'd you look at me like that? He went, my body's falling apart. He, like, looked at me. I just know, he's going to get a ring dinger. He's. What's that? Were they, where you, like, lay on the bed? Oh, and the fucking,

your neck? Your neck? The ring dingers? I need that. I'm scared of that. I'm not. Matt, can you make it a point starting today to move towards a world in which we have a poker live stream tournament here in these offices where you can see people's cards.

Yeah. So to play some shit. Well, what we should do is we should have a table, have translucent, like, places where you put the cards and then just have- crowd-fund it. And then just have cameras under there. We can just have mats sit under the table. Right texting, it's like, uh, A8.

Well, not, we just get like a little, a little C920 fucking Logitec cam and just have it. Yeah. Point it up. Yeah. Yeah. Or they do it. But we need like eight of them. Or what we can do is we can just on the band, on the thing, put the same one.

So that when you lift it, they can see it right away. Yeah, but then that's, that's in your way. Like, you know, pissing me off. It's in the thing. It's on the band. Dude, we got, yeah. I've been wanting to do that. I've been wanting to live stream.

Nick won a tournament and then you came through you've won three okay so it's you three maniac Dylan envoy I'm the current I'm the current optic champion of poker well actually

Alex Alexandra Hax plays like just imagine how Hacks would play Reckless like he's trying to bluff but you're just like this ain't the time to bluff but he's like he'll bluff extras he's a bully Yeah, I'm just like, call. Listen, you have four, he had four seven offsuit.

We were in Toronto and we looked up. We were in Toronto, we looked up, it was last night we were there Sunday night and Alex was on the screen and like that celebrity poker thing. So she is the current optic. She's a little fucking genius. Until I'm beat.

Actually, until I'm beat, I'm the champion. Well, she'll be here. She'll be playing in that tournament. Until I'm beat, I'm the champion. She's a little genius. Like, of course, she's good at poker. Yeah. You can just tell by her personality.

Yeah. Anyway, I think, man, I think we have so much ahead in the next couple of months that it's actually kind of good that we won't be able to be burnt outside. Because I think the less work that we have, the more willing you're going to be to be in your pool, the more willing I'm going to be to be in my pool and just get toasted. I want to party at the success house. You want to go fishing? You want a party at my house? We can make that happen. I haven't drank since St. Patty's Day.

Like a big optic party? We can make that happen. I'll bring the chef. There we go. Big pool party in my place, I'm down. Tacos and a bunch of... But it's like, dude, I'm telling you the next five weeks are insane. So I have Dreamhack, Match Bachelor the week after that.

Same, same. Champs the week after that. Same. Dream hat or our Halo event, I think, the week after that. And then I think I have to go back to Vegas for something that I can't say yet. Like, my next five weekends are insane. He's getting married. It's just another day in the life for hacks, huh?

Don't fucking talk to me about that. The next five weeks are crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'd have to figure out when we can actually do that. But it's going to be like, it's going to be like 100 degrees here for the next six months. So we're good. We're very good. We got time.

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