OpTic Podcast - DR. DISRESPECTS TRUE VIEW OF TWITCH (FORMALS CONTROLLER STORY) | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 40

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

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Three days before that is when I visited the 60-50. So I thought this is just what optic was. I was like, this is just what you guys do all the time. Get robbed. I don't know what happened, but you stayed in my bed. I kind of remember that. Kind of don't. You were like super drunk and I was like, what happened?

You were like, I just got robbed. And then I learned what happened. And I was like, welcome to. I just thought I have a brain for it. Yeah, what the fuck does that happen? You do the intro. Episode 40. Welcome to episode 4.

What was that? That's the interest. I saw Roger carrying something in my brain just like... Oh my God. Took control. I thought I was going to have to go to take you to the hospital. Bro, you know what's crazy? Have you seen those videos of Cardi B.

Like talking outside and she like freezes? Yeah. And then they said the same thing about Connor McGregor that he's also a robot manipulated by. Or they also think they're... What are reptilians? Yeah. We've seen those. Because like Cardi B will just like she'll just like...

like be talking and she'll like do you doing this and then all of a sudden really and then she'll go back it's really can you pull it up are you good is everyone is everyone is the robot have you see it every time we looked over imagine my eyes like I just blink like sideways once about a oh he's funny close yeah he's like what the fuck cart he's like he doesn't know what to look Cardi B. Conspiracy. Cardi B. Reptillion.

No, just conspiracy is fine. Conspiracy theories convince celebrities are under mind control. Okay, so I believe, I don't know if under mind control, I think they're just under

more money control. Googling yourself. You see this? You're like, what? You're Cardi B. Well, there's a video. Search on fucking YouTube, Matt.

Not on wired. Do you think you had to make that wired article? Validation. Validate up, up, up, up, up. The second one. Yeah, right there. So here we go. Anyway, look, watch.

She's cool. She's cool. She's cool. She's like, ah. Oh, wait, yeah, yeah. This is it. Oh, cr. Well, I just, I don't know.

I think that all the planets if they orbited the world. Easy, easy. Wow. I can't even tell what part it was Oh well Anyway Anyway

Just watching it on mute It's just a regular Is that DJ Calvin Well I get a little It's a little in a sense with no sound Well anyway Yeah Where do we start talking

How do we start talking about that? Because that's what happened to hex Yeah I just froze And I'm like I'm under mind control Anyway Have you guys you guys have all listened to the Drake album

the new one for how long did you listen to all 29 songs? Yeah Start to finish you too Yeah You too? I started to I fell asleep on the flight back

But I started to I woke up to that I love you one I love you And it sort of traumatized me Because It felt like one of those Inception songs You know what I'm saying

Oh Round on to me Ah And then you're like, too, fuck it. That's how I felt. Oh, inception. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking of insidious.

Tip toe through the window. Oh, I love that song. I have not seen that. I have not seen that. I have not seen that. What do you think? Formal, do you like it? Not like it?

Really good. Really good. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. The more I'm listening to it, the more I'm realizing I like every single song. Yeah.

You too? Sort of getting to that point. Like the first time I listened through it, there was like four or five songs where I was like, those are bangers. And then some of the other. other ones I was like, but the more I listen to it,

it's like, like he's just too good. I mean, he's got to be too good, right? Because he dropped 20, how many songs total? Yeah,

it's like 23 or something like that. 23. Oh, 23. Something like that. 23 songs, just to reiterate the fact that he's one, he's the best entertainer alive right now. Rapper,

I haven't heard it. I like his flow. I like everything about it. Like, I don't have nothing back to say about him. What don't people, like, they're so,

because when you say rapper you're like you know I get it like his songs are great but like as a rapper here's the thing here's what I'll say is if he rapped if he did what he did on on 7 a.m. and Bridal Path if he did that

for a full album then I think people would say I don't think people would be able to like dispute his rapping ability like but the fact that he sings so much on every album and he does like, he usually does one like TikTok track. And then...

I think he's the best entertainer. Yeah, like the best art. He's good, he's good lyrically. He is. He is really good lyrically. I mean, then you got to take into account there's like a lot of accusations that there's ghost writers and shit like that.

Dude, if somebody write me a song, I can't flow like that. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. That's like Drake could pretty much say whatever the fuck he wants and I'll bomb my head to it. You know? Yeah. And that's like where I think he's the best at.

Yeah. He can make you bob your head to like anything. Yeah. I was just, I have like such a love for his like AM PM series, which is like, do you know about that? No. So like he has a song. Like he made a song like 2011. It was called 6 p.m. in New York. Yeah. And then first he made, was it 9 p.m. in Dallas?

9 p.m. in Dallas. That was what I was thinking of. 9 p.m. in Dallas was like his first time. And he just like, it was just like a good, good beat. And he just wrapped the whole time, no hook. And he does that. He does that like every three years. He put out another one 6 p.m. In Dallas. 9 a.m. Yes. 9 a.m.

It was like 6 p.m. in New York and then like 5 a.m. in Toronto. Yeah, 5 a.m. in Toronto, 3 p.m. in Calabasas. And then he, so every time he does one of those, you know it's just going to be a beat and he's just going to wrap the whole time. So when I saw that on the track list, I was like, I could not wait. What's the name of this one? 7 a.m. on Bridal Path, which is where he, that's where he lives. And it's all, he wrote that because of whatever Conneum. you're like posted his address did you see that no kanya like went crazy and posted yeah yeah because

they're the whole song is about conya that whole song is about con yeah and so but regardless if he rap like that every time on every track like that would be incredible but he'll never do that because that's he just doesn't even want to do that yeah it's he he cares so much about more about like the numbers and about being like being number one and you can't be number one if you rap like that. Like nobody's ever done, nobody's ever just wrapped and it was number one.

Look, besides maybe like M&M. No, but even, yeah, like, Nas? Nas was a top seller? Back then, probably. Yeah, I don't, like his first album. Yeah, 100%. And all he did was rap on.

Yeah, but like in comparison to, like, you can't compare it. What I was going to say this is like, would you rather be the best rapper ever or would you rather be fucking Drake? I'll pick Drake. Even as, even as, as, like, You know what I'm saying?

He's just, he's just trans. He's like a Michael Jackson figure. He's got to be like one of the most popular people on Earth, if not the most popular person on planet Earth. Right? Even people who don't speak English fuck with his songs. They fuck with God's plan. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think, I think that you reach these levels of, of stardom where, you know, being the best of something just isn't the wave, right? Like I love Aesop Rock, like up until maybe bazooka tooth. And then after that, I stop listening.

Right. But then even then, like, I know he's my favorite, but I still would rather be, you know, Drake than that. But if I have my choice, obviously, I'd pick to be Eminem. You know what's crazy about Drake? It's like, okay, so he came on a song called TSU. Now, like, everyone that goes to TSU is, no matter if they are a Drake Hater or not, if he goes to TSU and performs there,

Everyone there is gonna know the lyrics to that song and they're gonna fuck with Drake every single person And that shit happens he does that so often with so many I mean just even besides like Toronto like he does it with what is the college he goes for Kentucky Yeah, so it's like why is he a fan of Kentucky but yeah everyone in Kentucky just fucks with Drake you know what I mean TSU it's like that's like the same thing with TSU now like yeah It's like that's a really good like strategy I mean I know it's like if he wants to show someone like you want you want to see like how many people ride my shit Yeah watch this everyone in to let's go to TSC you now and now like everyone there's going to be like super into drake even if they weren't

i'm saying i refuse to believe that there is somebody out look i don't haters of drake exist right they're they're they're literal haters they have nothing else to fucking do but i i just don't get behind shit like that though like from an artist's perspective like he's fucking doing his thing period and there's no there's no way to to hate like you you openly hate about something knowing that you're wrong at that point yeah Because me, it's the biggest fucking rap of the hater of this day and age. Like, I can, I can say that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I am the biggest hate that. I do.

I've been saying that. Yeah. Yeah. You've always said you had, you just, I've just never, I've just never seen you, like, listen to songs that weren't Lute. Bro, I asked you, Jude, Jude's like, Jude's like, Jude's like, you've been listening to the same shit for 13, well, now, like, 20 years. Yeah. We're like, how does that not get old? I don't, I don't know how you do it.

Like, like, I. I love take care But if I was still listening to take care I would be I would be like going crazy I'll prove it to you I'll prove to you like this Remember that one road trip

That you, me, Proofy and somebody else took to Dallas Oh Jay I thought you did that on purpose I was like damn Yeah yeah There was the four of us Yeah yeah

And then Proofy was there too And then Proofy's like Hey so you don't listen to music And I was just like ah You know I don't The fact of the matter is I don't We were just sitting there in silence No, we were talking.

We were talking. We were talking. Yeah, we were. It's like, it wasn't a thing. I don't know. Something in my brain just disallows me from enjoying something new. And it's not a matter of me saying, oh, if you like this, you can't be true to yourself and dislike.

You know what I mean? Like, it's not that. It's just that I'm not, my brain for some reason, isn't interested in anything else. That's kind of how I feel with a lot of stuff just in life. Like, my brain's just not interested. I'm good. I feel like what the average human brain is interested in. What was your last album that you remember that you fucked with?

That I fucked with. Yeah. Like you get in your car, you go to your phone, and you play something off that album. Can't tell you. And you're just like, damn, this is the... Probably the Doomsday one. That's the one that I still, to this day. When did that come out?

Like 1997. But I didn't listen to it until, like, in 1997, the internet didn't exist the way that the internet existed now. Like, back in the day, there used to be a website called Sandbox Automatic. That's where you would go to buy your CDs that were, like, hard to find, that you couldn't find at Tower Records, that you couldn't do that. So my access to the shit that I had was just that. So I listened to Doomsday in, like, 2003 on the way to a scribble jam. You know what I mean? Can we use Limer?

Okay, I was looking to know. Yeah, I did. Napster. The Illmatic album's not on the time. top charts of 94 or 95. I was 14, 15. I don't think I listened. I think in those days, what the fuck was all this is?

It was like Mariah Carey and Green Day and something else. But it was like, oh, and Doggy Style was third. Yeah, but you got to understand this too, though. For an artist back then to break through like that, they had to have radio play. Radio control fucking everything. So rap, and I'm surprised you said Doggy Style, because they had to have been like some sort of clean version, but rap never was really played out there because of the amount of censorship that they had to put around.

It's like the local scene is like what drove. That's like when I was watching the Wu-Tang documentary, that was the crazy part about that is like how big the local scene is or was and kind of still is, I guess, in some cities for rap. Because like apparently like whenever people got like they played it on the radio once, like the Wu-Tang song and it was like so crazy that people were like trying to find it. in record stores so that they could spend that on their radio stations not not what song was that hold on fucking shazam that oh no wait let's go to youtube none of that yeah and it's not

like you go to a thing and then you look and it's like protect your neck like it was that was that was that there's no way for you to know the name of the title especially back then and like I can't even imagine that like like just being like what was that yeah like what noises were they making no yeah yeah no I can't Bro, you used to have to wait for like 9 o'clock. You got to be next to your radio. Wait for the first cue. And here comes, Wu-Tang, Clamp, Protect Your Neck.

You press play and record at the same time. And then you record the song. And then you stop it. And it's not the full song. That's not. That's not. That's how I, the only time I've ever experienced that was with the Missy Elliott song. I can't stand the rain.

No. I can't stand the rain. No, there's a. What's the Missy Elliott? Elliot song with Ludacris Anyway That song

I listened I heard that song In the radio like Four or five times And every time I listened to it I was like this is the best song Ever Do you want to take me on trip

I'd like to go somewhere song No That's with Kanye I thought Gossip folks That song How does that song Yeah That up boy Maddie

Maddie can you play And then sing it back to us Because we can't hear I'm thinking of Flip it Flip it in my first It's your Fomin'i nipo min

me. Oh, right there. Yo, yo, move out of the way. Let me see Elliot coming through. I'm a bad mimic, Jimmy. Y'all people don't got to like me. Man, y'all aren't even listening. Yeah, it was...

Look at it's not even real words. It's not even real words. Music cues. That's used unbues. But anyway, I remember... To use that. Regardless. There was a...

What the fuck is that? When I lived... When I lived in Georgia, there was... They would do like a top 100 countdown every Sunday. And so... The fuck? Yeah, so like they would start at like 5 a.m.

And it would be like 100. And I remember at like seven every week it would play because it would be like 84 or 85. And I was just like, I need to know what song that is. But I thought it was Little Kim at the time because I didn't know who Missy Elliott was. So I was trying to find out. But you couldn't even like, I mean, there was internet,

but I wasn't like Googling Lil Kim. You know, like I don't even know if Google was around. That's like how early it was. I remember when I had my car, all I had was three CDs. I had one bill. Do you know one below? Yeah. One below the Mob Deep infamous album and something else.

But now when I think of, like, because I was forced to listen to those so much, it's like so nostalgic for me. Dude, that's, I think any, almost any album could be somebody's favorite album depending on their situation. Yeah. Just because, like, if that's all, like, if that's all. Like, if that's all you listen to, then like, eventually you're going to love it. Like, eventually you're going to love it. Had a D-12 CD. Like, my brother had gave me, and I just kept listening to it.

And I was like, I fuck with D-12. So you probably know, like, word for word. Some songs that, like, nobody else knows. That, like, nobody else knows. I was like, what's your favorite song of all time? Every song all time? All time. Just one.

If you had to take a song to an island? Yeah. Maybe fucking Robert's room. Marvin's room? I appreciate what Marvin's room is. On an island? Mine might be, look what you've done. It's a pretty lonely island.

Look what you've done by Drake. Same same album. Best album ever. That shit's crazy. That was fucking 10 years ago. Jesus. That'd be depressing though. It would have to be.

Like I'm not trying to like there's no way I can listen to like some upbeat ass fun song by myself though. I'd rather have it be sad and make me feel something. I'd rather cry on an island than be happy and bouncing around and being like, well, this is lame. Bro, the second thing you get... That's a good point. See, me? You're just listening to God's plan.

God's plan. Look that, dude. See, the first, like, if I'm on an island, the last thing I'm doing is listening to fucking music. First thing I'm doing is I'm building a shelter, looking for food and firewood. Did you ask me the question?

No, I said, I just said what's your favorite? He said the island. What's your favorite? Of all time? One song. Notorious dogs played, Notorious B-A-G, and B-H-Thones in Harmony. Best rap song. Get your shit.

Grab your gack, call you click, squeeze your clip, hit the right one. Did you see what that dude tweeted us? No. It was like one of the guys. Oh, that they was together. They weren't together. Yeah, yeah. That made me happy.

Apparently they all went in and. did it right there on that night and then Biggie took it home and wrote his verse that's just crazy one of the best fucking rappers is ever Sure Cuff Beef with you Nohu, fucked a few female stars or two

There has been no other person ever to put out Because if you listen to Biggie's ready to die And Buzz the other one Ready to die and Life After Death Life After Death Every Both of those albums have like 20

Plus songs and every single song is good as fuck. It's like, there's not like a song you forgot about. Did you see that rap radar interview with Drake? And he was, about a Scorpion album? Yeah, about a Scorpion album. And the guys were basically like, do you like,

not regret, but do you wish you had done things differently with like the amount of tracks? He was like, I just, he was like leading up to the album, I was just listening to that, to those biggie albums. And I was like, I want to do that. Yeah. But it's hard to do.

I mean, there's some skips. That is what's crazy. There's some skips on Scorpion. There's a lot of skips. For me on Scorpion, I can't listen to Scorpion, really. There's some songs that... It's weird. There are some songs that got overlooked, though, on Scorpion, but there are some skips.

Isn't that the one with Time Flies? I can't remember. It is weird the way that the human brain works. The way that you assimilate certain things to certain things, the way that certain songs put you in certain moods, The reason I'm saying that is because I remember watching this thing on savants, right? And this dude who knew how to count to infinity or knew the pie formula to infinity. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right? You just go forever. Yeah. He says, I see numbers, but every number has like a color to it. It's like a different aura of it. That's crazy. And then I remember whatever that means. Yeah, I mean, no, they show you graphics as to how I would look.

And he said, yeah, kind of like that, but maybe like, but flip it because now that you can describe it, people can digitally like manipulate any image, right? You guys should see it, bro. It's such a good, I don't know what it's called, but it's like, it's on savants. Anyway, back in the day, and I mean this, and I know it's going to sound weird as fuck, back in the day, like, during,

when I first started doing this, the Call 3-4, you know, montages and sniping and all that, like, I remember clearly feeling the sensation of, like, going in between two people and going to go make a layup as I was running. with my sniper rifle, like, doing like a certain movement. That makes sense.

It doesn't make sense. Does it really? How? Does it make sense? No. Because I don't feel weird anymore. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I think like to you see.

That's interesting. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Say it one more time. So like going to make a level. Like if you jump in between two people land and then go for a layup, like just pushing to go to a layup, right? Pushing aggressively to go to a layup.

It's how I felt in certain scenarios when I was sniping. pushing aggressively maneuvering and then like No, yeah. It being Smoving. You have to finesse this guy to do this and like whatever. I thought you were saying. I thought you were saying something else.

No, but that feeling and I'm like, why the fuck do I feel like I'm doing a layup every single time? I'm doing this. That is weird. Right? I don't think I've ever thought like that. I have before.

I know what you mean. I've thought that way. But, I mean, I feel like that might be a competitive thing. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. But like I do that all the time too. like the like proof he was right

I don't listen to music I listen to podcast and when I don't when I have a decision to make I don't listen to fucking anything because one single word or one single thought is going to influence me in a way that I don't need to be influenced

to make that sort of decision just anything do you all ever have like quiet when you're like alone like do you like when I whenever I go home I always put something on like something there's always a podcast on or there's always music on or I'm always watching a documentary or something

Something is always on. And I never noticed that. I never noticed I did that until Alexis, like Alexis was here for like three or four weeks. She was just like, you know, you never are quiet? Like it's never quiet here.

And I was like, really? And then I've noticed that ever since. Yeah, I'm not really. I feel like sometimes I'll notice that I'm laying there and it like a few hours have passed and I'm like still,

it's just still silent. Really? Yeah. Like I've got to do you like TikToks? Sometimes watching like TikToks. Instagram. That's not really quiet. Maybe streams, but like, no, I definitely do sit there and just like dead silence.

It's probably kind of weird. Like sometimes I'll just play there. And it's just dead silent. I don't have something to like distract me. I think it's good to not always have something to distract. I know it's definitely it's something's wrong for sure. Like I need to relax. But I feel like I always want to be like taking fucking information in.

That's how I always feel. like I am. Except when you stop, you start thinking about, if you stop taking information and you, like, start thinking about, like, shit, you don't really want to think about. I start making up scenarios. Yeah. Literally making up just, like, how tomorrow's going to go and it's fucking terrible and now you feel shitty.

Exactly, right? Like, if you're in the middle of, like, thinking about something else, then you hear a word in the song, you start singing along, and then you start thinking it was like, oh, should I remember the song with this thing? And then you start thinking about something else besides the thing that you need to fucking be thinking about. That's where I was going with that. Yeah. So obviously on the same on the same Drake topic and I saw a meme of this. Apparently he released a song that Kanye and Andre 3003,000 did while hosting a guest mix on Sirius XM that includes Kanye dissing Drake. What I saw

at Drake too was what I saw was that that song was really good apparently. That song is the best song Kanye has released in a long time. What song is it? But it's, so it's called, I can't remember what it's called, but it's, uh, Andre. Yeah. I saw that on Instagram. Yeah, same. I don't think I heard Kanye's.

It's. Is it even Kanye's? It's on the song? Yeah, yeah. Okay, I didn't know if it was like a Frank Ocean. He just has Andre do a fucking song on his album. Did you see, but did you see what Andre 3,000 said, like his statement about it? No. Uh-uh. He said that he thought that he was giving Kanye a verse for Donda. And so that, so he wrote it with that in mind.

And so he talks about his own mom and, and he talks about like Kanye's mom. And then Kanye just put that on a song and then made it a drink this. And so he was like, I just want people to know I don't have any problem with Drake. I didn't want it to be on a, on a disc track. No, of course that. Right? Yeah.

It's so weird. So, like, Andre is talking about like, you know, his mom or whatever the hell he's talking about like all spiritual and like godly and pure and then Kanye comes on he's just dissing just dissing damn it's like it's not like

poet you know how like Drake will dis Kanye but never say Kanye's name like he'll like say like yeah super subtle yeah say like post that thing or whatever you know what I mean he like goes at Drake like it was I only listened to it twice but it was really good

is it hard for you to listen to someone dissing Drake? No. Do you like push a T? See the only thing... That was a mismatch, bro. Yeah. Because do you remember that the last Meek Mill

diss on Drake? The one that went hard. Yeah. It like dropped really hard. That shit was good. Yeah. It's just, it seems like when people go at Drake, they don't like try to outright him.

No. This is the thing about... That's how I see it, I guess. This is the thing about that one very specific instance between Meek and Drake. Drake. Drake has this fucking banger, right? Back to back, a banger.

But he's like, I can't call it back to back. So I'm going to, this is how I'm going to strategically do this. I'm going to go add him with this first song. Charged up. Right. Charged up. It's going to be good. Yeah.

I'm just going to, yeah, just to see what happens, right? And of course, that wasn't back to back, right? But it made meek do what meek did. And then Drake's like, okay, good. Because I have this fucking banger. thing that's going to become a summer. Imagine the best song of a year is about getting dissed.

It's like the best song of this year was like talking shit to me. Imagine meek. Yeah, meek Bill was pointing out of that summer. Meek loved that song. Every club he goes. You just can't go to the clock without hearing it. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like back to back wouldn't have been

back to back if he didn't release the one before that. So he's like, okay, I got to release one before this. Strategically, like so clever to do it the way that he did. So kudos and props. him for thinking like that's that that's the sort of creativity that really sets you apart right like you have this banger it's called back to back he's like well I need to go back to back so I got to create this other shit back here put this one out first so I can then drop the fucking crem de la creme god damn it when it comes to like that's

great distrax like I don't really like like I don't really like like distrax I like subtle jabs or like when they try to like be clever with it like if like big Sean and Big Sean and Kendrick had like a beef for a little one while and like going through like figuring out like like I like diving into stuff and like trying to figure out what the dis is and Kendrick has some crazy shit that he said about about big Sean and that's what I like more than like because push a T was like you have a kid 40s dying yeah and then that was it you know what I mean yeah and it's and it was I think that's all anyone remembers and so like I don't remember how it started I don't remember how it sounded right right

I just remember like two bars from it. What the fucking push at Tico at Drake? What was the point? Oh! The thing is people... Ooh. That was a whole camera. Nice. Close that.

For good job. What were we saying? Going to Drake. Yeah, it's like, if you're going to go at Drake, you got to... It's a mismatch for... I think this beef is kind of fun. If I was a rapper, I would go at Drake, like, Naz when at Jay-Z. Like, calling it, like, a pussy.

Like, he's a... He's a, he's like the cornball on the streets. Yeah. And maybe Pusha did that, but like not like, like people try to like dance with Drake. Like, you have to go all in. You have to sit like. That's true. You have to get disrespectful.

You have to fucking talk shit. Like a fire beat. Pusha's last song on his album, because I listen to his album, that song's pretty good. And that one's about that it ends with him talking about Drake. but Kanye produced that album. And so that's why the beats sounds so fucking good. Because it's like, if you took Kanye's production and, like, didn't have Kanye on it, it would be amazing. It just doesn't matter what Pusha did.

That's like, it's like me trying to discump. It's a mismatch. As far as like being great at video games. You better put, like, no one's interested in what I've said. It's equivalent to like MGK versus Eminet. Yeah. Yeah, I get her saying. What the fuck?

That's why this one's fun. I like this one. I hope they keep going. Let me ask you this, though. What, does Kanye not get along with, uh, with Jay no more? No, they're, they're cool now. They're cool, I guess again. But Jay, Jay is not on Donda, right?

Yeah, he is. Oh, is he? And he's on Drake's shit? Yeah, he's on Drake's shit. See, if I was Kanye, I'd be mad at Jay Z. So and I. But Kid Cuddy's on both, too. That's crazyer to me.

Why? Because Kid Cuddy is, Kid Cuddy and, uh, Kanye have been, They did like dual albums together. Well, I guess so did Jay Z. They had like erase me and shit. Well, I think like kids were ghosts. Just like signed that Kanye. Really?

I think they've been doing stuff on it. They've been on each other's or he's been on each other's albums for Like seven years or something like that. I was on I was on Instagram so I don't know if this is true or not but I was seeing that like how much rappers call for how much rappers charge for features and then Eminem said he does it for free and only for if he respects you. That's fucking G. I was like,

fuck. That's G's L. Everybody's like 100, 100 grand, JZ 250, Drake, 3, whatever. What's his name?

Eminem for free if he respects you. That's fucking G2. I'm like, the fucking. That's crazy. Whether it's true or not, still one of my favorite people

on fucking earth. God, I'm sure it is true. I'm sure it's true. But then I see Eminem featuring on like Snow the Products song. Okay,

but I guarantee you. I guarantee you he respects Snow the product. I guarantee he is. I guarantee he does. Snow the part's a girl, right? Yeah, she's good. She is good. She's nuts.

But he's so, I feel like he's so like enclosed in his own. I see Eminem as like a fucking dude in a cave just like looking shit up on mine. He just has the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want. When you start out as controversial as he did, you sort of like become that. I think that you think that you're there with the shit that you be saying something. I'm like, I'm the slim shady. I'm like, you're not. All right.

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We didn't get an update. A Seas Go team had a player that came down with COVID and a coach had to step in to do it. Furia. And apparently the coach was fucking frying the entire game.

It went like last round or something and they ended up losing. Imagine the coach has a moment and brings it. Imagine Troy. It was like... Troy just drops 50. It's different for CS though.

Yeah, why? Those fuckers are grinding. Yeah. The coach is grinding also. Like, the coach is playing a lot of CSGO. Yeah. You think Troy's getting fraud. Troy's getting absolutely tucked.

I saw his controller. He's getting tucked. They're like, fucking all red like Xbox One controller. I was like, do you can't use that. Yeah. I was like, you're going to get tucked. He was, he would have been so unprepared, but like, yeah, that's dope though. What's your favorite controller all time?

You came from 360. Okay, it is 360. Yeah, 360 for sure. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy because...

That one. Why was that control so perfect? Dude. And everything since then sucks. I don't know. They got bigger. And then they got really small. I almost feel like if we went back to those, though, people would be like,

these are fucking trash. Trust. You think so? Yes. You are heavy and shit. Because Dead zones have changed so much. Because Xbox 360. I tried that on Halo like last year for like a day.

I was like, this is awful. If you plug in a 360 controller to your PC, every single 360 controller, it has stick drift. Yeah. Because. That's what I was going to say. I said, and I'll have slow turn. That's what it's called before stick drift. Yeah.

Slow turn. Holy shit. You couldn't, you couldn't have slow. If you didn't have slow turn, then you were, you would like buy a bunch of three 60 controllers and hope one of them didn't have it. Yeah. And you would use that. So like, that was the problem with them. I hate that.

Every other controller has slow turns. I love. I love the feeling of the controller. And I love the 360 because I'm, 360, it seems like every game the dead zones are so high that no, like the controller had to be pretty fucked for it to have slows. I don't know how that's how it wasn't Halo. But in Cod, like in Cod4, Monofer 2, like the controller had to be pretty bad for it to have slow turn compared to now. Because now like you can control your dead zone so much.

I hate it. And you have to play on 599 or you're going to get shit on by people with better controllers. That's just how it is. So you like, it's just, I feel like gaming evolved. I mean, obviously it evolved past 360, but I do like the physicality of that controller. I think it's perfect size. Yeah, yeah. Me too.

I hate what controllers, well, I guess controller's settings have become. You and controllers. I don't know what they've done to you. I hate what they've done to me. Dude, have you. Because at first it's just a. Yes, I have. Have you looked by his setup?

No, who had the words? Did you look by it? No, but two of my controllers are broke. I sold the score the other day. I was by a setup. Dude, there are 14 controllers over there. Every so often, chat or whoever's watching this. Hyper sensitive.

You are a head case. Bro, we've, I think there's a vlog of mine from this, from either 60, oh, Crim 6. Crim's a headcase. Crim's a headcase. Crimps six. Crim six is the worst. It's worse than you when it comes to controllers.

There hasn't been a single player under Optic that I've been a witness to that has had more Dead controllers by his setup. This guy. A fucking graveyard. Do you remember the Lion King where they go to the elephant graveyard and you see fun? Bro, that was the scuff graveyard, bro. If you went by a crim set up, there was like 15 dissembled controllers.

Joysticks here, joysticks. Do you remember the laundry room? Yeah. Or beside the laundry room, the place that flooded in the 60, or in a scuff house, there was like tubs of controllers. Yeah. And they were just all of Ian's old controllers that were just, it was just parts. and like full controllers that were down there.

Everything just fucks with me. I'm hyper sensitive to this stuff. So nowadays when it's like, say I have my dead zones and I have my horizontal sense this, vertical sense this, acceleration this, dead zones this, one dead zone lower than the other. Then I'm like, all right, it feels all right. But then I like, I'm like, okay,

but it doesn't feel that. Let me try a different controller. And then I try different controller. It feels even worse. So I'm like, I can't. And then it's just, every controller feels different on, different. Do you have that? No.

Listen, listen, like, I don't blame Nick because you got to think, like, he's playing against, like, Royal 2. He's playing against, like, Shotsie. Like, Nick's not sitting there accepting the fact that, like, these kids are just better than him. He's just thinking, dude, dead zones. Like, I'm more realistic than that.

I'd be like, yeah, I'm not doing whatever the fuck that shots of kids doing, so fuck that. Like, I'm trying to use my shit. Yeah, this kid's just godlike. Yeah. But, like, Nick's not like that. Nick's, like, you don't know that they're better than. That. See, this whole time out.

It's just a slow turn. Time on. Just for the record, this whole time I thought you were talking about pubs. You've been playing against the Royals fucking snake bite. And you're thinking that it's a controller that's the issue? No. No. See, at the event, not the game.

I've never played at an event or in a tournament. And after I've been like, God, my controller is so trash. Really? Yeah. Like, it's just like practicing day in and day out. Or if I'm like doing bad for a few days, like two or three days. I'm like, man, my controller or something. I'm in a slump.

And then I start blaming control. I'm like, mentally, I feel like I'm there. How long's the tournament? Three days back in the day? Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So after the tournament, you probably sit in there on your flight. I don't ever remember. I don't ever remember blaming my controller.

I'll tell you what the other. Besides in like online. I blame my controller way back in the day, like 1011. Like on the 360, you would just hope you'd get a good control. and then because they weren't even discussed back then back then people would save controllers yeah I remember Roy and lunch would save a controller for the event yeah you would

like their good controller and they practice on their shit one that's how that's never like how it is now yeah back then if I'm pretty sure if you would the more you would use your controller it like just start feeling different you like break it out yeah more you break it in it would start feeling different so if it was like perfect that's why that's actually crazy to hear

you said lunchbox would use only one control at events. Lunch and Roy would both say. A lot of people would do that. That's crazy. I know they did. That was common. Yeah,

I don't know if they did it every time, but I know. That's crazy. Look, I know for a fact that if somebody, like my brother will come over to my house early on, Call it, two days, we'll come over and play that,

and by the time I got it back, it would be so loose that I would have to replace my controller. I hate when people touch my controller, with their warm fucking sweat and Cheeto. One time, I was, when was it, when Dashie, when Dashie was first on Optic before he stayed on Optic and wasn't on Huntsman.

One time that they were practicing here, I accidentally moved something and his controller fell. No. I didn't say anything. Nobody else was fucking. Nobody was around. I put it back. Well, okay, first of all, if I dropped this phone, no way to know if you broke it or not. I don't know if I knocked a loose.

I'm looking at it. The phone's dead zones. So I'm like, I put it back. And then, bro, no bullshit. I hear, I was sitting like. over here because the desk was over here at one point I hear it's like yo did somebody grab my controller earlier I'm like no no no but I'm like something was fucking a ride and he noticed it and I'm like I'm like I'm gonna let the tournament go through and

then afterwards I'm like yo did you feel something different when you control for real he's like yeah my left skit's like you dropped it right I'm like yeah he's like fucking knew it and I'm like how to fuck this I dropped controller and you noticed that yeah that happened to me IW chance in the finals oh I had to replace That show was crazy. So I'll tell you, you remember that? Yes, that was I recorded. I noticed right away.

I was recording. Okay, so. You couldn't jump, right? I couldn't jump. He couldn't jump in a jetpack game. Yeah, I still fried for the first. Well, it's like one map? Two maps.

Two maps. I snipped in the second map. Was it one of those jumping where like you had to slam it? Yes, I had to like focus on it. You had to dig your thumb into it. It was like type of jokes. And I like, I tried one time to do it in the game in the first hard point and I couldn't do it. Like I focused on trying to do it.

I focused on trying to do both the same time like normal and I was like yeah I can't do that. So I'm just saying the ground. I was like I'm just getting the hill and then just like yeah. You're just like this is working well. I remember having to change your your joystick on your controller and I remember running to the scuff booth. I'm like, yo this needs a new thing. He fucking fixes it, takes it back and then formal's like you put my right joystick on my left joystick and my left joystick on my right joystick feel it and I'm like. It feels the same to me.

And then I take it back. I'm like yo, you put him backwards because apparently like, you put him backwards because apparently like, You can tell you remember that shit? Right, it was upside down. It was like upside down. Yeah, like I was like, wait, nah, that doesn't look right. Because the S usually was like straight, like, I would touch like, I could see the ass was like right side up. Yeah.

And then you came back and I was like, this is so trolly. Yeah. He's a call back. There's no, like, you know what I'm saying now? Like that would be like, that would fuck with me. I'd be like, dude, what the fuck? It's upside down. Like, nah, I can't do that.

So I was usually a new controller. But that was I was not like, this is trolley, it was like, it was like, I was like, I was like, I didn't lose full. I didn't lose full, it's all good, no, I'll use whatever. Just thinking about them. Dude, you were so, I was, I was rewatching all that shit. You were so, like. Serious? Dude, not like, it looked like you hated everyone.

I always liked, like, a killer mode, bro. He was just, like, literally, like, fucking. Just wanted to win. You seen that picture of LeBron like this? Yeah. That was Matt that whole year. Yeah, I actually was. I was on my bullshit that year.

Completely different than what it was now. Yeah. That's probably why I retired. Instead of, like, wanting to view, when I was like, I don't know. Is this your first retired podcast? No, a second. You were on the first one. We're going to LA today.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're going to LA today because we are going to go shoot content with the phase guys. We were originally supposed to do this. They already know. It's been leaked and shit. Really? Yeah. Well, I don't think they know we're going to content.

Oh, no, they didn't know we were doing content. Anyway, so we're supposed to do this after champs. But since we got knocked out so early that we didn't want to hang around from some. Sunday to like Wednesday. You good? Yeah. We got knocked out on Thursday. We did it in Wednesday.

It's only up from here is the way that I say it. Anyway, that's why I didn't go to Godchamps. I was going to go for the content and everything and like hang out the last few days of the event. But then we get knocked out. And then I think you guys just decided. Yeah. We just went to Disney.

Well, I'd been gone for so long that I just wanted to get home like as soon as possible. Oh yeah, you'd been gone for like a month. Yeah, so we're going to LA. We land today. We go to dinner. We sleep. We wake up. We go to the face offices and then we go do the content.

I'm excited, man. I'm psyched too. Yeah. I haven't seen, I haven't seen them in a long time. I don't know if I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever met like Apex. I feel like I haven't seen them since New Orleans. Holy shit.

Crazy shit. That was a lot of. I've seen Tommy since. I've seen Tommy, but I haven't seen... I don't even know if I've met the other guys. I really don't know if I've met them. I just remember, I'm like, I'm trying to think when the last time I saw Banks was.

What happened? I don't know. I was thinking of a Flamesword. Why? Because, you know, because you told me the story that, like, like, you brought the girls back to the room. Like, one gets on top of Mike,

and, like, Mike doesn't ask any question. Wakes up. making out with it? Like, that is so funny to me. Like, dude, just asleep, wakes up, just asking a question. Mike literally woke up and just started sucking a titty. Mike literally woke up and just started sucking a titty. No questions out.

It was passed out. It just wakes up. Oh, my God. Those are those, those, that we should have animated that story, bro. That should have been, you know how we animated the, the, Dude, that shit was crazy. The Seth one. Bro, that was my first experience.

Three days before that is when I visited the 60-50. So I thought that's just what Optic was. I was like, this is just what you guys do all the time. Get robbed. Nick's just like pounding on the door because I was staying with Mike from DeSerto. And Nick just pounds on the door and comes in and sleeps in my bed. I was like, what happened? Like, we didn't know each other that well.

You were like. Wait, when was that? When you were like drunk that night? New Orleans? Yeah. Why did I sleep there? Because you couldn't get into your own room or something like that. I don't know what happened, but you stayed in my bed.

I kind of remember that. Kind of don't. You were like super drunk and I was like, what happened? You were like, I just got wrong. And then I learned, and then I learned what happened. And I was like, it's crazy. It's crazy learning that that is a thing. Like, they're probably still hustling.

Yeah. Those two are still doing it. Just a little old. Wiser Br, imagine how much better they are at their job You know what I'm saying? Practice?

Yeah, they're pros. Yeah, they got Venmo skims schemes now for sure That was before like It was just PayPal back then Yeah You couldn't just like put up a QR code No

That's like Apple Pay Me and shit Yeah, there's a lot of shit now Vennel They're probably like so I wish I could go back And like interview them Be like yo you remember Would you be bad now?

Like how much it would you take Total? I think only like 500. And then they ruined this dude's laptop. Back then, that was a lot. They ruined Mike's. They poured water on Mike's laptop. Why?

They just poured water over it, open it breaks so we can't like wake up and instantly like start looking at shit. That's hilarious. Cancel cards or whatever. That's crazy. I'm wondering how many laptops they've ruined. Like no fuck's given.

They have been doing it. $500. They had been doing that shit. And they split it. $250 each? $2.50 each? What if you were like the third person that night? Yeah.

Like what if that's how hard they grind? No, there's no way because... Yeah, it takes too long. What she said? Fuck you, white boy. It was from probably... You bitches disgust me. I said that to her.

I don't know if she said. Fuck you, white boy. Oh, man. That's one of, that's, I mean, shit, man. It's been like seven years and we're still talking about it. One of the most memorable eyes. It didn't even happen to us. Had to have been, right?

I'm a six. Yeah, probably like five. Whatever, it's more than five. Shit. Whatever, it's more than five. No. God damn it. So we...

It's just mad at nothing. I catch myself just doing that sometimes. I'm like, what? I caught the fuck down. You know what? I've been catching. in this podcast you know you saw me a lot yeah I don't know why I do that that is weird he's like one of those little kids said like this I used to sit like this in my class

yeah sit like this and then the teacher would call on me because they thought my arm was raised and I was like oh no I'm just sorry I just sit weird and now and every time somebody does some weird I always I always remember sitting like this and I don't know why I'm gonna stretches your back in high school and shit. And that shit would hit different. Like off the back of the chair. Those chairs, those chairs that like wrapped around here.

They would connect to the desk. So you just like, push off. Oh, those are so good. You get a different type of crack. You would like, you would like,

yeah. It would like unzoned. You'd ascend for a second. Yeah, you'd be like, oh. Everyone would hear it. Everyone would look.

And you'd be like, yeah, that felt fucking good. Yeah, do it again if I could. Oh, man. Dr. Dispect says that Twitch

is still the better streaming platform. So, you know, touching back on that, like, I think that it's okay for people to say that. Even if you're beefing with someone, like you should still say, like, yeah, they're better. You know what I mean? Yeah, it is better. It is better. It is better. I was talking on stuff about it.

Yeah, it's way better. It gives you a fucking, like, Twitch gives you a different type of feeling. Like, I love Doc, but, like, I have just not gone to YouTube at all to, like, go watch, like, Doc stream. Yeah, but, like, I'll watch his video sometimes, but if he was on Twitch, I'd be watching him every day. You know, it's just like Twitch, when I open up my computer. I turn my computer on I go to like Twitter and Twitch I don't open up YouTube like Twitter Twitch I just got to say YouTube see I don't open up YouTube I know some people do and it's like that's normal and stuff but I don't like I'll go on Twitch I go just look at my recommended and like just yeah I just I just I just I do go straight to YouTube but I don't really watch

I go to YouTube but I don't watch any streams where do you go to watch streams on YouTube? It's every single time I see live and I click on it I'm like I'm like it's a night hour video eight hour video see that's the issue that's the issue that's That's the issue. It's like clickbait, right? That's why he says it's the better platform. It's because they haven't figured out, YouTube hasn't figured out how to separate streams and videos. Because I don't think they want to separate it, but you have to.

Yeah, I feel like you should, there should literally be a tab that says streams and you click it and it basically put you in a Twitch YouTube world. Right. Exactly. It's like it's like, it's like. It's red. It's pink. like takes you out of the YouTube videos

Yeah Or like imagine that'd be sick actually Imagine like you click like streaming version of YouTube And it just went like blackout mode And just like you know that's what YouTube gaming was at one point YouTube gaming remember that It's still kind of there I think that's what they're still trying to do with that

Is that what is this ahead of? Yeah YouTube gaming No I think he's yeah just gaming in general He's the head of of gaming AAR and VR. Fizz? Yeah So it's the coolest motherfucker ever met

Yeah, he's one of them for sure He's one of the coolest one of the fuckers ever met He's like the closest person to Everyone around me that I haven't met Like everyone knows FIZ But I don't think I've ever met him Really? You've never met Fuis You've definitely met Fizz

I don't know if you have Maybe in like 2013 or something Kid the fuck, that's so weird I mean I haven't seen him in a very long time That's a cool cat But Fizz was saying He's married now right Yeah he's got a kid

I was about to say Young, young Liam Wyatt. Cool. Cod Pros playing war zone with creators. Cool. Cool. Thanks. Question from Ransom.

God Pros all playing war zone with creators. Okay, who, though? All of them. They're not really. It's more so like Seth Methods and Tommy playing together. Yeah, they're not playing with creators. I was hoping they would play with creators and they're just playing with themselves. Yeah, it's just them three.

And then like Slack. It's like occasionally there. I was in there one night too. Holly was in the one night and then someone else was in there another night. I forget. Yeah, but like no one of the pros are playing with Tim No, no the pros are playing with Jack like I play with himself so just horrible fucking terrible fucking horrible You want to crumble a paper and throw it at you Maddie? Oh, look at this backspace oh look at this Oh, there we go You deleted it. What is this? It's for Matt. It's for Matt

Oh, give me it. Oh Where's Rod? Imagine this is Roger? Wait. If it's his... Imagine. Imagine... That is Roger?

Oh, my God. Bro. Oh, my God. Throw it. That's crazy. You have to. I can't... Look at how vibe of you look.

I'm so excited for the airport. I can't just... He's so excited at the airport. Throw this out right when he walks in. He just walked him in a suitcase. Roger, are you checking that bag? Yeah. Why?

Is that thing all the apparel? All the fish shit. So now we gotta wait for somebody. You want this? No, yeah, I do want it. All right. Question. Would you rather live 10, 100?

Nope. If you had to live in a video game world, nope. Wait, no. Wait, no. The video game world. Okay, fine. Here we go. Danny Chuan.

If you had to live in a video game world, what would it be and why? Let me answer, okay? And this is the right answer. This is the right answer. It's Pokemon. Okay, it's Pokemon. And just imagine having a fucking.

Pikachu or like a fucking squirtle or a charmant like dude it'd be Pokemon it had to be Pokemon there's no other world that would be bad in the Pokemon okay after a while you did text me your cat oh yeah so you do want to there is an animal aspect there uh was watching TikToks I wanted a cat Pokemon's a good one Pokemon's a good one it might be the best one actually just imagine having a little vibey little friend that can like kind of talk to you. True. He can kind of talk to you.

Squirtle. He gets it. He gets it. He gets it. He's just like squirtle, squirtle. And you're like, all right, I got you. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got to give him food. He says, that might be broken, Roger. They're like, even that shit they eat. The little Pokemon food, it's like a little like, it looks like a turd almost. It's like a little brown thing. He's so good. They all fuck with it. They all like the same treat.

Yeah, I don't know if I could top Pokemon. It might have to be Pokemon. There's just not What? I needed like What's your idea? What's your MacMan?

Cautoo? Cautus non-stop eating I would probably What? Are you doing Pac-Man? Huh? Just non-stop eating

at your life. At least in Pac-Man there's a Mrs. Pac-Man. Yeah. And have you not seen the gym trainers in Pokemon? No. It's okay.

Misty. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that name alone, right? Like you just know. Sabrina? She's like the fourth fucking gen. Sabrina is the one.

Sabrina? Yeah, she's the one. Or fucking Erica. Well, Erica kind of sounds bitchy. Like Erica. I was gonna go with... Sabrina's the one. I was gonna go with Zelda.

You know, you go on this dope-ass adventure and you get the princess at the end of the... Zelda's... I mean, Zelda's dope, but like, imagine facing Gannon in real life? Like, fuck that. I don't want... But I'm Link, though, and I have everything.

Okay. well you're Link and you're still you get one life in real life you're respawned in Zelda if you were Link now you would still be playing Zelda you know what I mean you wouldn't be doing Zelda in Pokemon you would be

playing Pokemon with Squirtle you know what I mean? Dude that'd be so sick to have a little squirtle that eventually turns into a blast noise like in a lot if he dies and a fight! You're awesome like you've evolved imagine watching a Pokemon evolved in front of your face dude that would be fucking what they need

to do is a realistic version of Pokemon where like you're your fucking squirtle dies and he got ripped apart blood spewing everywhere you know what I'm saying if he gets electrocuted by Pikachu like you see

fucking explodes yeah well no it's worse combust it's just like squirdle then you gotta like bury him like this is the real world

you know I'm with you with that I will go with that you gotta bury your Pokemon you guys are misunderstanding the question now okay it's not if you could take Pokemon and bring them to our life. It's if you could live in a video game world. So I'm not living in this life

with fucking Pikachu. I did take it wrong. I did take it wrong. You're right. Which is vibe as fuck. It is. It would be. Well, then I changed mine. Mine is Winwaker. You just want to be different. Mine would be dude.

You're still... Mine would be World of Warcraft. No. No, you didn't. It would not. Bro, you never even got a flying. out. You were level four. I literally bought a 50 and fly flew.

Flyed. I flyed. You might be the worst wow player I've ever, but... I bought a 50 and slide. I win. You bought a fucking level 100 account and you quit the next day. I was like... Trash games are trash. Anyway.

What would you use Pokemon too? Yeah, most likely. Pokemon. Or maybe Star Wars, but... But I don't know what... I know which one Matt would fucking play. He'd play that spaceship one that he plays. Oh, Matt for sure.

He can't wait. He'd be... He'd spawn in... He'd live in Apex. No, Star Citizen. Or war zone. No, at worst. This guy... Imagine war zone?

That would be horrible. It sucks. I suppose people will play like they're actually in the game. I don't know. They have a... You just die and you're just like, ah, finally rest, and then... R-r-r-r-and you're already back, like... You're in the gulag. Yeah.

Imagine you're dead. You're peacefully dead and off. sudden you wake up and you're falling again. You're tired of a fucking chair and gulag and you're like, what the fuck? And you're ripping your arms out. It's just a life of stress. It's just hell. Yeah, it's just constant stress.

You win and they just throw you back into the world again. You're skydiving. Yeah, exactly. Do you have a shoot? Yeah, that sounds horrible. That is crazy. Anyway, that's going to do it for this episode of the Optic podcast. If you guys enjoyed the episode, please remember to not leave without leaving a like.

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