OpTic Podcast - FORMAL CANT COMPETE WITH SCUMP | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 15

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

On todays episode of The OpTic Podcast we have HECZ, Scump, FormaL, and MaNiaC discussing League Play, Halo Infinite/LAN Stories, and the first Major in the Call of Duty league. Go to http://keeps.com/optic to receive your first month of treatment for free! Go to http://buyraycon.com/optic to get 15% off your entire Raycon order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I was like trying to get in Cess head or something. Yeah. I was like, I heard you pretty good. I didn't get to plan me now. And then like, you just get three hundred and twenty minutes. I was just backing my shit. I was just backing my shit up all this. I was like, it's just so lame.

I was like, dude, that formal kid was talking shit before the series. Oh yeah, I definitely said something like that. I was like, what an idiot. I got thrown the low from my team and I was like, too, just came out fucking flat. Yeah. Just came out flat. Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode of 15 of the optics. podcast. I missed

last week. I apologize. I was visiting some tree farms in the West Coast. What do you mean by tree farms? Maple trees. Sap, trees. Sap is in every tree. You have a much enough David Attenborough and it shows. Good job. I was testing

you passed. Is the glasses that made you smarter? Congrats, man. I've been had glasses and they've made me not any smarter. The first ever Oakley athlete to be signed. I went to Oakley.com yesterday

and guess who I saw him? Yeah, in the front page, smiling. Wait, Oakley. You say Oakley.com? No way. That'd be sick. Pads on and shit. Just like with the NFL team.

It's Seth a quarterback. No, Seth would be, I don't know, he'd be a good lineman. Look at how big this boy is. 2.10. Damn, same. For you a good lineman. Why are you laughing? Nothing.

Bro, it's 210? I have weight 2.10. You weigh 2.10? Bro, I was just eating everything in sight. Same. Still do. Oh, days. Wait, what about you?

Are you? I saw you semi-naked yesterday. What? Yeah. How old? What? You call me fat? I'm like, damn, you look like me.

Because I took my shirt off to put on like a different hoodie. Almost? Or did you? He saw my fat. Yeah, we had a snack pack, thankfully, with cheese and crackers. Okay. Like, literally. We had french fries. I need to chill, but it's

just food's so good. Food is just so good. Food is. I'm going to continue not giving a fuck. I'm going to continue not giving a fuck. Solidarity. Guys, let's not give a fuck. I keep saying, Is like some. I got to give a fuck. He is like some chunky? I keep saying you're a chubby chaser to Iz.

Why do you say that? What does she say? No, no. She's fine. She says iterations of. I chase you here. Is she what? You're not chubby.

She doesn't like you for your looks, your personality. No, she does, yeah, it's the personality that did it for her, but, I mean, look at him. It's a handsome boy. And a personality? You actually, you did look pretty good. Excuse me? Pretty good in the Oakley pick. I was like, wow, you actually, like, you look like you showered.

You look showered. You look showered. That's the limit. That's where we're going with. Oh. that's what's different why I couldn't do it now he's feeling like himself

no dude you sure at least like I couldn't do it anymore I look in the mirror and didn't even recognize myself anymore it was just a full beard I said where have I gone I need to come back how big are you going with your beard I'm gonna grow it all a little

because I'm gonna keep my this short so like I feel like this is only gonna work if I have like a little bit of a beard when you go to the bar where do you like you make me look like a soccer player from Europe and it's like lines

something like that yeah Yeah, but no, not really. I think I found a picture on the internet and just showed it to him. You're like, this guy's hot. Give me something like this. Can you make me look like this hot? He's just like, yes.

Oh, man, Seth, you want to read? No, actually, Maniac, read the comment. I always like to just skim them because I haven't looked at them yet. Thanks for the water, Maddie. Shout out to you. All right, today. Questions from comments brought to you by NEAC. Kay Jones.

Question for the podcast. When did each of you realize this was? at the bottom now we're here yeah yeah yeah yeah dude why are you starting for the bottom this this is what I was told to do he does and he writes from right to left I was told to do this

questions from comments from K Jones everything would be backwards question for the next you know what it reminds me of you know what it reminds me of that the movie arrival where you can read backwards

and forwards all at the same time that's Nick Nick has has gotten to that level to where he You can read backwards and forwards at the same time. Yeah. You're just taking information from anything you see. Yeah, because if you really think about it, like when I say chair, you don't think of a place where you say it. You just see it, right?

So imagine if somebody was able to communicate with you just thoughts instead of words and text. I think that's going to be eventually. Yeah, so do I. And I think that that's what happened there. Have you seen a rival yet? Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful.

The aliens. Yeah, beautiful. The red-headed chair. Yeah, they're like this. Yeah, they like, they throw their tentacles at the glass. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, pah! That's what they do.

Well, they throw circles. Yeah. Yeah, so I think that that's where he's got to go. So that's maniac, right? He can read back. Sorry, continue. Anyways, questions from comments. Are we doing this again?

He didn't even read it. Questions for the next podcast. We were doing that thing where we interrupt them and that he just keeps like getting it. When did each of you? No, I think is that the way he speaks is like, give him. just makes you want to interrupt them. I think it was like, I thought you were done saying. The way I speak just makes people want to speak over me.

So I'm like, I don't hear that anymore. I'm just going to start talking. All right, go. Question for the next podcast. When did each of you realize this was your career and not just a hobby? Let me guess your first event when I got paid. Matt, didn't we delete this one? The fuck?

Yeah, we should not go. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I think. No, this is. I might have just made that. Okay, listen, Kay Jones, thanks so much for the question. We've answered that. million other podcasts. I told Matt

to delete this and he did Oh no. Okay. Actually, we still need this. We still need this. Okay, here's the question. Do you guys keep mementals? What events you've won? Controller and Homer's Jersey. Here's the couple. Rogers peeking over to make sure it's not thrown at him.

He's like. You know what? You know what you know what favorite laugh of Rogers is? When you tell something, he's like, eh. Anything you tell him. You're like, oh, Roger. Like, this dude fell, and then he slipped on shit.

And he wiped. Anyway, he's like, he's like, he's like a villager. Shout out Minecraft. Best game ever. Did you guys be the dragon? Yeah, we did. How was it? Easy.

Of course, Dylan and Sammy died. But me and Matt finished it all. Yeah, they're trash. Crash duo. Wait, what about karma? He wasn't there. He backed out. He still sleeping.

I believe He never DM me back That's the thing with Damon He'll He'll It's like Oh no no Go ahead

It's like when you listen to a song Too many times When it first comes out And you just start to resent it That's him with video games He just plays a game For 48 hours straight And then like won't play it again

No No For the For the For the record That sleeps for three months I got a text I got a text from Holly yesterday

And she said That help me wake Damon up Yeah She's like Do you know where Damon is? Make Damon come to content. Just a heads up last minute. Camping trip just got booked for Bella Spring Break

so Damon won't be available until Friday. Imagine Damon in the forest with a big old beard and he's just got tin cups. Cutting down trees? Just jacked in a fountain. How do you open this can of beans? He's like, what do you use his teeth?

Savage as hell. Just eating worms off trees. The question from Juvenile. He just goes fuzzy. Oh, man, he brings a spout, and then he's like, what is that for? He's like, he grabs it and puts it on a tree. Right? He starts getting maple syrup.

Because he's from Canada. Anyway, the question, do you guys keep mementos from events? You have one. Control or handwormers jersey. No. Wait, what's a question? I mean, I have my jersey still. Yeah, no mementos, no nothing?

Not really, no. I have my check from the 2009 National Changes $25 grand For you or for the team? For me? Just for you. There's 100 grand for the team. That's the only thing I've kept was the big check.

We didn't have any big checks. Did it above your bed? No. Where is it? I don't know. Some random wall in my old room at my house. I swear like T2 did that. So.

It's not above my bed. This. This is what I kept from when we won E-League. Right? So we have Mixual's mouse that he won E-League for us. I'd be like, what? I'm keeping that shit. He used the college.

I'm shitting with that. What are you taking my control? And he's been trash ever since. You took his mouth. Oh, it's a death matter. Yeah, yeah. So he's like, you know, this org was founded on Caled. Yeah, I'll play with that.

I mean, I think that he just found this mouse and saw Call-Aardero. duty and wanted to give a shout out to the org anyway so he can just use anything and be a god yeah and then uh i kept you know how there's confetti that falls from the from the thing i kept it in in the uh snickers mini ingredients i dumped them out into the garbage i didn't eat the mini you see how the mini the mini sneakers i grabbed them i grabbed them and put it in my pocket that will never deterior this is such a good idea i'm in this jean's pocket yeah i did uh i also have some stuff from when we won uh champs But that's at home. But that's not readily available because he doesn't care about that victory as much as the league victory.

That could be true. Well, Why isn't it readily available? You're still salty about when I had them on the, this one time. I've seen the video. Okay. So he's still talking about that. Yeah, I've seen it.

He's like, I was equally upset. Anyway. Yeah, so yeah, I do. But that's because I'm a, I don't want to call myself a hoarder. I just could collect a lot of things. and this was definitely one of them. So yes, to answer your question, I personally do. Because if I don't, then who will?

Obviously, they don't. So one day I'll be able to be like, here, I got your present, this confetti. I collected all my jerseys? Yeah, I mean, you're supposed to. Do you still have all your jerseys? Yeah. Do you have your jerseys? Pretty much.

All of them? Yeah. How many jerseys you got? A lot. Really? From different teams? Especially from Optic, too. We were changing jerseys like every year.

Did you ever play for instinct? No. I was on BTH from 2009 until I joined Optic in like 2015. You're on BTH? You loyal. Were you ever on SB? No, he just never got any other offers. But I was also never dropped.

I always had options. When you got dropped, you just took BTH with you. And then you didn't get dropped. Yeah, and then I pick up two good players. And then there's someone, they always just want to stick with me. And then we dropped the shitter. And then place worse. That's usually

And they'd outplace me And they'd go on to do great things Hello Matt Are you guys team at one point? Yeah They won a championship together Really? We won an event

Wasn't it a championship? It was ESL championship It was On the BTAH That was like one of my favorite It's like a top five favorite Frived wins

That's when you were first coming out to Optic And we had it talked And I show up And I'm like I see you I'm like Oh what's up man Welcome to the team

me, like, they just walked in the, me? This guy. Wait, I was by the same. Really? Yeah.

Me and Matt were talking about this the other day. So, he's probably nervous. Matt, Matt, came up to me at ghost champs. I was brooding back then. Matt came up to me at ghost champs.

I had no idea who he was. This is a good story. Like, I didn't know who he was, but I didn't know him at all. He comes up to me and he's like, it's your chance to finally play me on land. We're backstage behind the off of the other.

Yeah, we're about to play. It was that's first TK our winners around one. And I'm like, okay. head or something. Yeah. I was like,

I heard you pretty good. I didn't get to plan me now. And then like, you just get three hundred and twenty minutes. I was just backing my shit. I was just backing my shit up all this. I was like, I was like,

that person was like, that's like, dude, that formal kid was talking shit before the series. Oh yeah, I definitely said something like that. I was like,

what an idiot. I got thrown the low for my team. I was like, too, just came out fucking flat. Yeah. Were you kidding? Sharp. Sharp.

Sharp. Sharp. In theory. Or Gungar or not Nezlo. So sharp. Goon and theory? Yeah.

What a squad. What I'm sure a lot of fun of that team. That's a viby squad. I don't think you get enough props for doing what you did. What? Just sketching on everyone and keep moving teams. Yeah. Well, I mean, you have to do that.

Yeah, you have to do that. No, not only that, but you started at the bottom. It's not like you came in and were, you know what I'm saying? Like, thrown into, into a thing like you grinded. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, like I went from Primal, which is the Halo team. Then I left them to go to fear, get some experience there. Then I left them to go to TK.

But that was kind of like a big jump. I was like top two at the time. Yeah. And then I went to Faze and then I went to MV then I went to Toppick all that year. Hit all them. Yeah.

Yeah, my... Thank you. Hey, I'm here for a little bit. I'm here for a short time, not a long time. I'm going to grow my brand and my interest from other words. Maybe I was super loyal, but I didn't think anyone

deserved my loyalty until I got an optic. You know what I mean? I do. Appreciate that, man. Until you left. Anyway, this episode is brought to you by Keeps and Raycon. I'll tell you a little bit more about them

later on in the podcast. So we're going to start out. Did we get a chance? Because I was just heartbroken. Sad. Wait, when? What? When Matt left and I just...

We were all. We all were black, but we didn't tell anybody that we were wearing black for that reason. I had three mains and I was the only sub. It was not fun. No. Who was the team when... Who was the team when you were on optic and then left? Like it was...

Dynasty. Karma, Sats, Crim, Formal. Yeah. Why'd you leave? Because fucking, dude, a lot of reasons. That's a whole other podcast.

Before I forget, this is a funny story as well. Okay, so when I first left to Optic, right, I got an LG and we played against Optic at the Pro League,

okay? And like, before the series, I'm telling my teammates, my team is for John Stockton Cap. I'm like, dude, I got this for us. Don't worry.

You know, because they're playing against Sam too, which was like, they are the left too. And like, I was like, bro, kickback. I got this.

I'm playing against the optic. I knew everything. We just get three. in like 30 minutes. You're sitting there back and you should like, I came up flat. I was like,

yeah, I don't know. I came out of flat. I was like, damn. I came out flat. What about the story of Pierce,

bro? What? Which one? When we were eating steaks with Pierce? And he was like, wasn't that you? Oh, Seattle?

At Seattle? Yeah. And we, and because we were gonna get you guys got caught in 4K? Who took that picture? I don't know.

I don't know. I want to know. We were going to get, we were going to get, we were going to get Pierce. And then they were like in losers from top 16 Yeah, she won the event

And Pierce was like, I'm gonna win the event And then they went and won the event And then we were like, well, fuck And then that's when everything Like fell, because we were gonna stick And then that's when everything fell apart Like after they came back and won from top 16 You're gonna stick

We were gonna pick up Pierce thing Instead of Instead of Damon Damon. Was it Damon? Yeah Sad times Damn

I was so bad It was definitely fucked up Yeah Looking back on it Probably would have done that They thought they were so nasty Who? Them?

I'm just sitting there a champs like at the studio because we had to play pool play there they didn't even get past the studio mind you and I'm sitting there like cruising through pool play right I'm sitting with my team we're playing our last match We three owed the team that you lost you first round What's that? Then you didn't make the first round So I'm like sitting there like playing playing like

Like it doesn't really matter anymore I'm just like chilling I look to my left on the main stage I see fucking Pat yelling at them I'm like oh my god I look at crib and he's like fucking screaming back I'm like dude they lost the series I'm like talking to John I'm like you know beep We only did one map though we didn't I was like they need a series.

We're sitting there on our series is watching fucking EG keep standing up over and over again. I was like, oh my God, that's fucking horrible. But I was laughing. I was like, that's fucking hilarious. Wait, and you didn't win a map?

They didn't win a fucking map. All you needed was one map to like make it to the bracket. We didn't get a map. It was one of the biggest. Shut up. Possibly the biggest. Possibly the biggest.

Possibly the biggest. At the biggest moment. At the biggest moment. It was a breakdown for sure. Breakdown, breakdown. Everybody. Give you a B. B.

R-E-A-G. T, T, T, T, T, T, T, T, find out what it means. All right. There's a lot of funny stories. Here's the topic that I want to discuss today, and by I, I mean, the production team. Drama and Call Duty, Hasbro, Courage, 100 Thieves. Anything to say, Maniac? No.

I will say, Hastro sucks at Twitter. And that's, I think, the only thing I gathered from that confrontation. Was Hastro needs to step up his Twitter game. if he's going to be in the line of fire and shooting back you better bring some ammo yeah you better bring some ammo yeah exactly I will say I would never I know for a fact I would never see Hector getting bothered like that on Twitter fuck no one first of all it'd be impossible first of all

first of all you wouldn't be like tweeting out to like get that kind of attention in the first place secondly I talk way too much shit and I'm way too creative yeah too funny What else can I say about myself? You've been said. You got it. We get it. Hair. I'm kidding.

Hair. What did you think about that? Obviously. What I think about it? You hate drama, right? Just weird behavior. Everyone. All right.

And all around L. Weird behavior on the T.L. I just, it was such a weird day, but I was having so much fun because I was just streaming all day. I was just playing like league play and pubs. I'm pretty sure scrums. And the whole day I was entertained just by like, because. Because you look at your chatting and see like, you'll check Twitter. Yeah, it was them.

It was them. And then it was Thorin against the whole God community. And then it was, who was the last one that rounded it out? Cell? Oh, yeah, Sal Snake. Just randomly throwing in his snake out on snake. Yeah. Like under the table.

Like in the middle of all the Twitter stuff, you see Cell randomly post this like paragraph. That's his like false narrative. I don't snake. Like you're just trying to throw it in the hat. Like, no one notices. Like there's too much. fire going on. Yeah, he's like, I've been saying it. He thought it's not going to brush it to the rug

but everyone was like, yo, hold on, you snake. Everyone redirected their focus to him. It was just an all-around funny ass day. It was just weird behavior. Like, I don't even remember how it started. I feel like everyone was angry that day. I think, I think well, I missed. Jack out of nowhere just started going in on fucking

all right. All right, so I read all of that when I got to civilization in Mexico, right? Because I was in the mountains fishing. When I got to Masalat, I've been watching a lot of documentaries about Everest Wait a second How was that?

Just sky fishing. Everest, the movie? There's a lake, a massive lake in the middle of the mountains. It's beautiful, beautiful. We should go. One day we should go, man, for real. I'm down to go fishing like soon.

We should start by fishing here. Yeah, wait to see if it's worth. Wait until it gets warm and then we'll all go because it's hellful. I want to take a 24 pack of natties? I want to get, yes, get drunk to like 4 a year. Just natty light? Yes.

So Jesus is run fishing for the first time ever. He's never fished. Jesus. Yeah. Right? He caught for two days. He had the biggest fish at 6.9. And then he got beat on the last day by Carlos who caught us seven.

But he, on his first... Like seven what inches? Seven pounds. Seven pounds. Yeah. How big is that? Like that one right there is 8.4. Oh, sure.

His biggest one is like... Yeah, it was. But it's a good... Anyway, I get to Masadlan and then as I'm going there, I'm in and out, and I'm like, Matt, what the the fuck is going on? Send me one big paragraph. Don't send me several because I will miss it. So I get this massive paragraph from Matt.

Like saying, no, Matt, this is Matt, Maddie. And he tells me everything that's going on. And then I'm like, okay, okay, he paraphrased everything. So I get to Masatlan, I get to Wi-Fi, I turn my shit on. Boy, when I saw what courage said about Stro, I was like, this boy came here to kill someone. I don't even remember that. I don't even remember what. It was bad.

He's going in on him, Burr. Yeah, he went in. Like, he went in on him. Oh, I remember he said something about their YouTube. took it to another level like yeah and i was just like oh shit yeah and then you said hey anything that i've ever said to you please and then kebby comes out with how you used to treat you saw that that shit's fucking hilarious that was so good that she was like a good rapport that you and you and uh courage had back yeah because you you could tell that he was also part of the show

and like yeah and he'd be like he knows that if he tweeted at you you would come out with something It was really good. Anyway, I don't, I'm not a big drama person, but it's for the same reason that I tell scump every single time to not defend himself. Because. You'll embarrass yourself. You win. Seth would get bullied on the tears. Yeah, right.

Yeah, right. Just a circle. Yeah. He would. It's like, ooh. No, but I always tell, I always tell them like, you can't, you can't hit. It's like when they hit you, they're hitting you with what they can hit you with. your punch is going to be stronger than him because you have a bigger following and obviously

you know you're not in the bigger man be the bigger man I have been very many times yeah very many times and I'm like just don't do it man he's like come on can I can people apologize to me oh my god if I expose people that apologize to me after do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it and then they'll apologize they'll be after and I'm like in private yeah they'll DM you be like bro that's my yeah that's my that's what that's just weird behavior all around yeah I don't think like I I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not one to care about any other else's, anybody else's business. I'm not want to tell a grown ass man how to tweet not how not tweet. So on the hassle thing, I'm not going to say anything. You already have. But man,

like my man, and I've told them when we're, I'm like, you know, don't, you chill, dude. Like, why, why do you need that sort of negative attention? Like, and if you're going to come, you better come strats. It just ruins my day. Like, whenever like you get into something like that, your whole day's ruined. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like it either. It happened. It happened. It happened. It It happened to me. Cue the fray. I lost a friend. Just making phone calls on speaker.

Good one, Hosepha. Are you good? You're good with the phone call? Cool. Moving forward. Faze win the $200,000 major. Congrats to Faze. Congratulations to Faze Klan.

All right. Can we talk at, look, I'm not one. I will say this, okay? And I hate, I'm not one for excuses. I'm not one to. to say that we lost because of anything. Look, we didn't shoot, we didn't do that, but we did trawl. I certainly.

You don't even want to talk about it. You don't want to say about the. No, Gigi's a subline. Okay, Gigi's sublime. I love that. Gigi's. I love that. Congrats.

Yeah, congratulations. Current standings. What are we in? Comfortably and third. Comfortably and third. Look. Well, we're not comfortable. We're tied with 80 with New York.

Yeah, yeah. It's not comfortable. And obviously, you guys don't want to be there. But it could be worse. It could be dead last. It could be way worse. Yeah, someone is, right? Yeah, London.

London. London? Wait, what position are they in? Dead last. Dead last in there. Oh, and six, series camp. Yeah, shouldn't drop a lot of season. Bro, imagine you going off season without winning of a series.

Seattle almost did that last year, I think. What do you, uh, what do you do with the, if you're them? Magic. That was pretty magic. No? Nope. You know what? It's like when your enemy is busy,

making mistakes, you do not interrupt them. That is not my job. I mean, it's on them. Like, if you're in Dead Last, it's literally just on you and your whole team to just come to the collective. Like, yeah, we suck right now. We need to get better. Instead of being like, dude, this is just so magic.

Like, you know what I mean? Like trying to, try to actually turn it around. Try to actually turn it around and like, not just sitting there complaining. No, on the real note though. Like, yeah. It's so easy to like take that road out and just be like, dude, my team sucks.

I'm getting cost. You know what I mean? Yeah. But like. You got to like just buckle down and like try to get better. Nothing but making it. And hope you do. If you don't, you don't.

But like, I guess you tried. It's just bitching all year. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know because we, we don't lose. We have a good ass team. We've always had a good team. But we've never just like been champions after champions.

I mean, obviously when we had the dynasty, then that was like a very specific moment in time in which that was sort of a thing that happened. But like I don't. As much as I and I, I know that people are going to hate this, but if you win all the time, it'd be the same thing as everybody having a Ferrari. Like, it loses its loss. You have to have some struggle in order to truly enjoy. One of your, in your, in one of the segments in, in the process, you said something.

He's like, yeah, it's like, we're going to get our hearts broken. That happens. And you just brushed over that comment so, so easily. Like when Jude's like, like, is like, how do you feel about the loss? I'm like, man, I've been losing and winning for like over a decade. It happens, man. It's part of the game. It happens.

It's part of the game. to have all highs. Like, there's some people out there that haven't ever experienced a win and they've been playing for five, ten years. Like, seriously, they just never won.

Yeah. Like, we've tasted victory a lot, a lot more than anyone else, pretty much, you know? So it's like... Taste good. Yeah, it tastes good. But it's like,

it could be way worse. Yeah. Imagine never tasting it at all and sitting there playing all day and you're happy with top three and you're happy with fucking top four, you know what I mean? There's people like that.

Yeah. And it's gonna happen. Like, we've had crazy comebacks, we've got comeback to on. Like, it just caught us so day-to-day. think can fucking happen, man. It's so day-to-day. And another thing we got, we're forgetting is like, we're playing online cod at the end of the day.

So it's like, you've got to only take that with like very salt. We're not even playing land events. No. Which is just a whole different atmosphere all together. And I think we've forgotten what that even is. We need the fuck. Instead of driving 10 minutes to the hex quarters, I'm flying four hours to freaking southern California. Eight hours to London.

Eight hours to London. I'm not losing that. If I'm flying eight hours, I've come back with a dub. It's a whole different vibe. When you're waking up at events at the hotel, you know it's game time. Yeah. Like, you wake up like, I'm like, I'm like, We were a match today?

Oh, sweet, let's go. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? It's just different. Yeah. Different. People forget, like, what land was. Just land in general.

Land is different, man. Because it's everyone is on the complete same fair game. There's no advantage with the internet and location. Yeah. And there's a crowd, which is just adds a whole different element. And that favor is also, you know, I'm saying everywhere we go home team advantage. You're heard. Yeah.

I mean, just like having fans there in general and being able to see them like through your monitor a little bit. Like you can see them to the cracks. It's just different. It really is. You know when you get on main stage, like it's like it's time to play like if you're gonna fucking sit down there, you know what I mean? You see the hype squad doing the canoe and shit? Have you ever seen them do that? No.

They all do, they have like this, this crazy. Like they bowl, they do the bowling thing and they like they fall as pins. They had like this. I'm surprised that none of our camera people ever caught that. Damn it, Roger. Way to go, Raj. Roger is walking by peacefully. He's like, I got my water.

This water's going to be the best tasting water I've ever had. Really positive. And here's a good one, Roger. It's like, fuck. It's going to be the best tasting water I've ever had. He just hears himself getting shit talked on the podcast that he's set up.

But he's going to have to edit in here again. I think Maddie does this one. But yeah, it could be way worse. I think that we took a lot from it as a team. I think that it was necessary for us to really learn. I mean, we already got, we already got, like, kind of knowledge in search and destroy, and we reworked the whole game mode.

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I mean, another thing, too, is just like, Like, when the game is this early, like, it's still pretty early in the game. That was the first event. Like, you just don't play the same event that you're going to play at champs. Like, it's just annoying every single year, you know, like last year, what was last year? MW. Yes. How many iterations of the meta, what, of the meta was it before you guys got some?

What do you mean you don't even know what happened? We should have been phased. No, I'm saying like, what was the first event in MW? Like, everyone was using like red dot M4s and shit. Minnesota, then London. Yeah, like red dot M4s and then before that, like every year there's four. bowels in AW you know what I'm saying like back backups three there's Vespers all in the first couple

months like it just changes the XM4 is gone now so it's like it's like that event didn't even fucking happen yeah we have a brand new game now that they have to play in practice yeah which is just like so like crazy like what are we gonna pay a chance I called I called the XM4 was gonna get G8 the first time I shot it I said this thing is OPE

and it took everyone else you went 12 you went with 12 and O it took everyone else months until they were like okay no everyone knew it was OPE it was just because everyone was okay it because everyone was good with it. So no one said anything.

Yeah, the skill gap went from like this to like that with XM4. It really did. It made like not as good AR players really like. It's on an AR gun. It's like a it's a super flex gun but not even really like a hybrid. It's literally just like if you're a flex player you can use M4 on every map and you're flexing at that one. It was like a better Maddox. Yeah.

Way better. Literally. It's like a razor back in Black Ops 3. Best gun ever made. Period. And the stories. The best hybrid ever. Or something like that.

I was nasty. That thing was fun to you. What I don't like, and I don't get at what point we're going to get to the point where we're not going to be changing games every single event. It's so hard, you, because it's like, how are you supposed to convince a team that's doing really well with one meta to take everything off and just completely, you know, play a new game? It's like they're not going to want to do that. And like the way it was before is everyone felt comfortable with Am4 because the gun was so good. Both their ARs are doing good, like pretty much every game. It's like hard to do bad with it.

So you just automatically assume your team is getting better. It was hard to do bad. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. Like, I would prefer it, Craig. Like, I've seen people try and run the QBZ and other guns and they're getting GA2, like, already in the EU Challenger scene. But, like, the AK-74U is not really a sub either.

I think can map people. Like, you shouldn't be able to just chow confidently across the map against an AR. That's not how a sub is supposed to be. There's restrictions on that, too. Yeah, so now they're, like, dumbing that gun down until it's, like, pretty much only get up close. And then, like, a Craig. I don't know. Vanilla, I feel like Vanilla.

I feel like vanilla kind of class setups always make for the most fun cot. Like people don't, people want like different guns and stuff. I think that like two guns that actually serve their purpose and serve their role are way better to watch than the XM4, just three bullet people and like get bailed out by dumb kills. Like that's it. Like it's not methodical at all.

There's no structure to it. You're just like popping pieces everywhere because you're like I can with this gun. I pose far. It doesn't matter. But viewers love it. that shit because it's exciting and people get two and three pieces and it's like as a player it's like it's not fun.

Yeah. I witnessed yesterday, I played league for the first time ever yesterday with the old middle optic. I witnessed it firsthand. Me, Diesel, Hodge, and Arando were playing and we play the five placement matches. Imagine searching league playing. You're

the fourth one, Oomil. You're just like, getting fired. Getting carried. I'm plugging your mode. hoping the getting carried. Throwing a PC out there.

I'm backing out Insta. You're not playing with us ever again. Yeah, right. Anyway, it's, I witnessed Diesel carrying as he usually does. I witness Hutch

druggle. No, just being a passive, just being a passive. Going positive. Yeah. Doing five. Yeah,

just like losing six to three. Just not helping the overall goal of the, of the objective, right? Like he never, like I had one 56 hill time. He had 15,

second. in sale time. That's me. Okay, so all five placements, he got played in Grandmasters or whatever the fuck. Diesel got played, got placed below him, even though he carried for five straight games. And I got advanced when clearly, clearly I am like the best exciting. What do we call that? Garb.

So you're gar. Which color did you get? Orange or green? Orange. What's green? You need to get green. I don't even know what green is. Yeah, me either.

Well, anyway. Green is. Yeah, where you guys are talking. Thanks for playing. Yes. Where you guys are making fun of, I'm making fun of, obviously. Because I witnessed that it's bullshit and it doesn't work, right? Because Diesel should have gotten masters.

So if you were to rank who, from who played the best and contributed the most of your all's wins, how would that rank? Me, Diesel, Hutch. I wonder how their list would go. Yeah, I wonder how their list. Numbers don't lie. I got the most hill time and I had more kills than Hutch, where Hutch had less kills than me and had. had less time in Hill. But he had a better KD.

Diesel just didn't even touch the fucking hill. But he got the most kills out of everyone. But pieces in the hill, me. Damn. I'm the dirty player. Did you ever go positive? No. How can I?

When I'm getting 156 film. He's getting mad. How can I? Tone it down. Anyway, bottom line is this. Bottom line is this. You're eating by yourself today. Have fun.

Anyway, what's next do we have on there? Do you even go positive? It's like, why did they, why even, like, why even, no. It's like, this is what I don't get. This is what I don't get. Like, as a studio, as a studio, and I, I know that they work hard every single day, and I know they had pressures on them to release this thing.

But if it wasn't ready, why release it? You're going to, you're getting shit talk right now because it's not out. Okay, like, where's league play? Where's league play? I'd rather not have league play than be pissed at having that piece of shit. Whoa. Break out that. I'm so pissed about that it's orange.

That's a fine. I shouldn't have gotten orange. If you got pregnant. If you got pregnant. If you'd be saying this, you'd be like, it's actually pretty good. Yeah.

It's accurate. If it would have been accurate, I would have been accurate. Well, that's why there shouldn't be that. There's no, like, indication as to why you get put into that specific, like,

threshold. There's no, there's no, we don't even know what it's based off of them. It could be score per minute. It could be wins. I think it is score per minute. It could be, it could be,

like, it's based off of like your pubs before that, to be on that. I think it is I think it is I've seen Troy lost like two games like when we were playing our league plays and he's still got Masters where I feel like it's just like

What did you get? Masters? That should not It was pretty accurate for us Well yeah because your tags because your tags and your pro players Do you think the leagues doesn't know that they need to sneak in?

Bro people come into the chat and they're like they white list your names Yeah 100% You're not that good You know what else You know what else? I'm like what the fuck has Hodge has a creator code

Do you? No What? I'm going to tell you I don't have a creator code because I'm a team owner. And if they give it to me, then they have to give it to fucking Ben Spoon, who I love dearly. But he doesn't play Call of Duty, but he's going to get one. I got you.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like the Natchat stuff that happened in League of Legends, I think it was, where he got something early. And then other owners complained that everybody should get it because there's access to recruiting. And I'm like, I can guarantee you that nature was not recruiting anybody by playing fucking with them. The dude does not do that part. Well, go ahead. Speaking of NadeShot.

Yes. NateShott is getting a sexist temporary, gaming is forever tattoo. Love it. Good for him. I need to start getting fucking tatted. Same. Yo, when we go get tats? Yes.

Would you ever get tats? Yes. I'm going to get bright red lips. And a motorcycle. Right there. Yeah. I'm supposed to get TTP right here. No.

Don't look at me in the eyes. Would you do that. Come on. Page and her friends got something like in this. outside of their thing. You guys should do it. I actually want to get tatted. Or what if you get formal? I get scummed. That'd be so cute. Wait, you get scump?

I get scump. Okay. Okay. I think I'm going to get a face tattoo. You just stop looking me in the face. Come on, man. Dude, stop looking at me. I'm going to get a face tattoo like right here. No.

Like right here beside my ear and one on my neck as well. What's the year I'm going to say? I don't know. You're not going to get a face tattoo. I'm listening. I'm listening. Or insert Q-tip here and then point an arrow and then... Have an arrow.

Q-tips are bad for your ears. How much, how many retweets would it take for you guys? For you to get scoff and tattoo to get a formal tattoo? For me to get a tattoo? That says formal. I do want to get... I'm not doing that. Five.

Five retweets. See, because formal's kind of like... Five retweets. Formal's kind of cool because you can do like things with it. Like you could get like formal and they get like a little tuxy-d-d-d- Like you thought about it? Like you thought about it? A little penguin in a...

That's such a set-tat. A little penguin in a tuxedo formal above it? That's such a set tad? A penguin in a tuxedo. The fuck you're going to put it for scump? What is a scum? According to Urban Dictionary, it's dirty, foul, ejaculatory fluid. Wow.

Say that again? That fits you perfect. Dirty, stinky foul ejaculatory fluid. Did you put that? Did you put that? Yeah, I did that. That's what I want to be known. It sounds like something you was like, I got to go to urban dictionaries.

He's like, what am I? Did nothing? He just says on urban dictionary, verified. Seth's picture. What? And still has the same description. So it happened when one night where Frosty said, how many how many retreats for you to get a sexist temporary tattoo and Nate Chats said a million? They said 100,000.

Oh, 100,000? That shit got beaten an hour. That she got beaten an hour. That's crazy. And then he said one million to get to allow you to pick a location. Then he tried to reach. Yeah. Then he wanted the super juice.

He's like, I'm getting for a million. But not on the face. So it's like, and who cares? What would you, what would you get it? Where would I get that specific tattoo? On your ass cheek, yeah. Under, under the fold. Just straight on your taint.

Just line going down your taint. I would hate to be that. If anyone ever wanted to see it, they have to get so like, can you imagine? It's like, you're at that tattoo shop and say, all right, put your leg, like. That would hurt so bad. It would. Dude.

Imagine? Oh, my God. I would. not be able to do it. You're just, where would you get it? What? You said you want to get tatted. Where would your first tattoo be?

Some are my arms. Yeah? Oh my, my, eagle fly, eagle fly. What would it be? What are you gonna put your optic tattoo? The same spot? Your optic tattoo right here.

Wait, what's your optic tattoo going? You're getting one? I get one. I think I'm gonna do like BTAH somewhere on this arm and like optic somewhere on this arm. And then the green wall and then Hulk's busting through it.

Exactly. But the Hulk has Seth's face on it for some reason. And then BTAH. BTH, you have someone holding it up, holding up the sword, and it's on fire, and it's like a fucking long-haired. See, I need to take you. Imagine I.

It's Ace. It's a long-haired, like, Thor looking Norwegian-type dude. No, it's Ace. I take Seth to the tattoo shop with me, and I'm like, explain what I want. Can you explain to the person drawing in? He's like, all right, So it's holding a sword.

Hey, creativity don't come free. I need that. I need that. You need my creativity. I need, no, not that specific tattoo. I do need your creativity. What did you want to get? Yeah, what did you want to get?

And where? I was going to, I'm going to get. Because you weren't serious about the side. I was. Serious. You would get a face tattoo? Yeah, like on the side. Dude, what if you have?

No. No. Have me go. We hear you. What would you go? But I do want a bunch of, I want like, my neck tattoos. My neck chest and arms. I could see him in the neck tat.

You would look badass with neck tattoos, bro. Like a coy fish. You could see its lips. Yeah. Like scales are all colored. Exactly. You should get barbed wire. I'm going to get a freaking Pokemon sleeve.

You like Pokemon? Just all 150 of them? I'm going to have a full magic harp evolution up my arm, and it's going to be in the ocean. And Geardose is just going to be coming across. my chest. That would look hard. Yeah. Yeah.

What would you get on the neck? I don't know. Wings? I don't have that. Oh, I, on my chest, I know I'm going to get an eagle, like coming out of flames because it's this, it was, dude, that's sick. Not. Wow.

It's sick. Dude with tattoos. Sorry. It's, um, it's like the symbol of, like, it's called, like, rising from the ashes of addiction. A Phoenix. It's on like this. It might be.

Phoenix. So you're... You want to, once you just get Dumbledore? Anyways, that's on like a coin. Dumbledore was on that shit. If you guys couldn't tell. Dumbledore was fucking twisted. He was twisted.

The whole... He couldn't even say his lines. He's like, hurry. Oh, shit. Sorry, Rowan. At the end, it was like going black. So you want to check that out? Dumbledore, are you good?

Sorry. Continue. That's it. That's the one tattoo. Okay, but what about your neck? I don't know. I need to, like, talk to a tattoo person. Go to my eye.

What do you mean talk to? Beware. Beware. See how the process. You can't go there and ask him for an idea. No, no, no. You got to, and you got a book. I have ideas.

Currently not being on the spot. I can't think of my ideas, but I have one at least. For your first tattoo? I really don't know. I just know I want them. I want something subtle as fuck, like some of my finger or something. Yeah. Yeah.

On your trigger finger? A mustache? Yeah. Get a mustache right here. Yeah, that'd be sick. People do that. I was actually thinking about doing that. Yeah, that's actually not, yeah.

Getting a mustache on your finger. Oh, oh. Yeah, like you draw a little. Look at people. I thought you were saying he's getting a tattoo of a mustache. I told Castro that he should get his logo has a mustache, Castro. So I'm like, you should get it right here so you could be like this. That's what I already got this one.

And I'm like, ah, yeah, you're right. What if you shave? I'm not going to shave him. I'm not. All right, I don't get it. They're motherfuck and fuck. Just say no. Just shutting down my things.

What's up? What's the next topic that we got on that? Halo T's BR again. What did you say? Halo T's B.R. again. The topic. Yeah.

I'm just so sick about hearing HALO shit, dude. Like, come out with the fucking game. I didn't ask my chat with you talk about. Are you going to play the new HALO? I'm like, bro, when of the fuck is it coming out? Yeah. Like, it's getting pushed back. Dude, I would five you on screen.

It's a four. It's a four, dude. You will probably. That's how five is. DMR is not a four. DMR is not a four. Yeah, why you know what the DMR? The DMR was in one game.

I five you with his. His favorite Halo was Reach with Bloom. No, it wasn't. See me on Sank. That's still a rich. I'm literally forring you. BXR, BXR, BXR, BXR, BXR. Remember when I was streaming Halo 2 that one time,

and you came in the room and, like, grabbed the controller, and you actually, like, started going off somehow, like, standing by playing and just shitting. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? I'm good at Halo. Were you back? No, I was, well, no, I was just glad it was happening on my stream. That's the way Nick, like, operates his life.

Wait, what game is it? It was on Ivory Tower. I love that map. And yeah, you had the sniper. You did the same thing, right? Kind of going off. Did he do that on your street too? Oh yeah, he did it on my street too.

Oh yeah, go and on the pet. That was crazy. That was not. I was so jealous. He somehow jealous of that. Like somehow made that about him. I guarantee you day one, Halo comes out, I'll literally, I'll actually be you. Like, where does that confidence come from?

You're only better than me because you practice more. Oh, yeah, that's probably it. Listen, I say that all the time. The only reason you guys are pros is because- Wait, wait, wait, when I got to set them to go to a Halo event? And I didn't, I saw him there, Halo 4? Yeah, with Brian St. Yo, tell me I didn't see him at a HAL bank

getting fucking top 64. Oh, that was embarrassing. Gar. That was embarrassing. You could have a handle the Ambracket. We actually almost beat them too, and apparently they had the game for like a week or, like a couple weeks early.

Oh, it was at the Halo 4 event? Florida fucking Jackalopes. Oh, yeah. Jackalops? Yeah, that was their name. Dude, that was so, that was such stone. Were they actually good? No.

No. No. You just lost to, like, shitty M-Kids that had the game early. Nice. Yeah, you lost to, like, the AmKids that played forever, but, like, haven't really done good ever. People that I put in finals also had the game earlier. It was, like, Ninja and them.

What did you get? Did you get? At that event? I think I got fifth or six. We lost the, no, we lost the status quo for, I think, top four. You lost to fucking flame sort? Snake bite. Yeah

Oh yeah We played them Played them Wait who was your team I don't even remember Who snived down Hides and APG Is knee Brian St.

Nate shot and Clayser Was it Clay? No Clay wasn't on our team Clayster was there I think Yeah he was on a different team Oh On Halo for

The Halo 4 Yeah he was actually doing well too I remember seeing him He's like playing on the main stage I think He's like no he wasn't No yeah he was I remember he was like sniping people

He's playing against like fanatic Straight sticking them So they got bodied Yeah, they lost his series. Clacer held his own. I guess, but it could have been standing. Oh, yeah. What do you think about that?

Do you think that there's what is it? What is it about 3, 4, 3, what's going on over there? I think they're just fucking. I think. I actually have no idea. But these are nervous to release one? I will say this. I just don't think, no offense because I'm friends with a lot of people that work over there.

So they're going to take offense to this, but I just don't think they're like good. Like, the people who are. like do the coding and shit i just don't think they're like good at that but because like there's something just wrong with every game three for three is it just feels wrong it feels wrong there's i just don't think they have like a good team damn damn like that's no offense you didn't say it's so like if you didn't say it's so genuine it wouldn't it sounded nearly as bad because i've asked this question fucking daily or every time i stream or just like it's like yeah i've had it up to here I've had it up to this line.

You see this line? That's what I have it. If it hits my second line on my head, I'm sick of it. But, yeah. I feel like it's hard for them, too, though, because, like, if you try to compare any new Halo game to, like, Halo, 2, Halo, 3, Halo 1, it's like, how are you supposed to compete with that? Yeah.

You know what I mean? And everyone holds Halo to that standard. I mean, and now who are, like, I mean, the games are, like... They're all right. I mean, but they also get to, like, kind of cruise off those halos as well. Yeah. Like, I feel like if they came out with these games and it was called fucking... shooter.

Yeah. It wouldn't be good. Just some other, yeah, some other name that, yeah, people just keep buying them because they're halos.

If it was called fucking optics, Optic one, fuck it. They wouldn't. And the only thing he could come up with was what you read.

A person like me is at 343 giving these ideas and they're like, it's not bad. Like, I need to be fired. I just feel like if they release it. I got an idea.

Fire me. Please. If they release a B. and it's not good. I mean, it's like... Dude, they have a pretty sick VR and HALO, too. Dude, they could be pretty sick. Yeah, with the ward hogs and shit? Will you fall in with the fucking?

Dude, that would be so sick. What? The ring, Halo, the ring? You can fall into the ring. You fall into it. That's where you, that's the, where you battle were out. Bro, and then the circle is called the Halo. Yeah.

So you literally are closing in from... You're jumping from... Oh, yeah. The halo's closing in and then... Instead of gas, it's the halo closing in. Bro, and then the guy that's raining victorious, the halo like consumes him and the... and oh, it rises.

Phoenix. Have you ever seen Alien vs. Predator where all the aliens are like running up the temple? Oh, yeah, yeah. And the Predator like blows them all up. Don't touch me. Just knocked over. Imagine sniping in like a Halo B.R.

Yeah, that would be sick. I would play it. 100%. That would be, do you think sniping in Halo though or in a Halo BR should be a one-shot kill though? Like a head shot? The head shot? The sniper just,

just has to be like super hard to get it have to be hard to hit too it would be hit scan it can't be hit scan yeah it have to be like years of war you know yeah like how war zone is because like lead your shot or something it'd have to be hard it's definitely like easier sniping and halo so you have to take auto emily it would just be so annoying just walking and just like just like you definitely have to have sprint like in in in in in a battle rail don't say that you have to unless it unless the maps the size of like coagulation like the map is. Would there be ghosts and stuff?

Would there be ghosts and Banchies? That's what I'm saying. Oh my god, I'm mad. I got a Banshee at the end. Bro. I played I played a Halo 2 on PC

and so I was using keyboard and mouse fucking flying a banshee. It's so O.P. You turn your DPI up to like 10,000 and you're just fucking, yeah. It like completely changes the way the banshee moves.

I was actually getting like pretty nasty in the banshee. Also imagine running into someone who's camping the whole game with a sword. You're just like, dude. Or a shotgun. What are you doing in there?

Just camping a corner? That would be so... I don't know. I do think that they need... For the sake of their own culture, they need to release something that people are going to be fucking hype about. Yeah, because it's like...

I want to be able to be like... They have to release a VR. They just have to do it right, though, too. I want to be able to... I want to say it was like... Let's get a fucking team in there. You know what I mean? It's just...

right now there's like no incentive for anyone to really like be in there you don't I mean like it and I feel bad for the players more than anything because they're they're ready to go to work but no one's putting them to work if I was a hale community I would figure out a way to just go back and play the old ones and just hold those under them yeah but who's promoting it where is it why isn't why isn't the hex quarters because it's only a thousand dollars and it's only like a it's only like a fucking a placeholder until the new game comes out yeah so they're just like thinking right like that.

They're just thinking how can we keep something going? Something relevant. Spending the least amount of money. They're just like $1,000 if you win weekly tournament. Yeah, I have no idea what's going over there. I have no high hopes for it, but like... I haven't watched it, I'll play it. It hasn't been anything to watch.

Yeah. Anyway, I personally think that they... That it's needed. I miss Hale. I hope that they do. I hope that they figure it out. It was. Because that community needs it badly.

Imagine HALO events in front of like a big crowd like how crowds are now like a cod chain it's crazy it was big back in the day like it was big for its time and like having the stand yeah yeah yeah for the first couple years like just having the bleachers was cool yeah and that's only like what like fucking 120 people maybe yeah but imagine like a thousand people imagine 10 000 people yeah that'd be crazy yeah that'd be crazy imagine our event last year for the huntsman that shit would have had 7000 people just yeah that would have been lit yeah dude it would have been nice Anyway, that's what I do for this episode.

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