OpTic Podcast - Formal is Uncheckable, BO2 is Broken & EWC Discussion | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 288

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I remember back in like 2009, I refused to play unless I, like I would put, they wanted you to wear pants. So I would wear shorts under my pants and take my pants off once I sat down and I'd wear short sleeves. I had to play in shorts and short sleeves. Your pants were around dress. It was like an OCD thing. But that's like a brainiac shit. You sat down and then took your pants off. I'm walking on to the main stage with pants on.
Starting point is 00:00:23 But when you got up. But little do they know. Did you take them all the way off or were they just around your ankles? They weren't around my ankle. But when you got up All the way off That would check me actually All right guys
Starting point is 00:00:39 Welcome to episode 288 of the Optic podcast Brought to you by Better Help More about them later If you guys missed the announcement Be sure to cop the Optic 20th jersey Available now Shop dot Opticaming.com It's actually clean
Starting point is 00:00:52 It's very clean Dude we always say it's actually clean Like sometimes it's shit So which ones have been shit Should we just go back to every jersey That's ever been dropped? See I like the long sleeve jerseys I love them. I've always liked long-sleeve jersey.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Same. I do too. I was surprised with this. But would you want to play in a long-sleeve jersey? Yeah, when I had the option, I always did. Really? You roll these up? Roller-u-upper?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Yeah, fuck yeah. Well, venues are usually... Like folded up? It depends on the material, but... Why did Riley just pull this one up specifically? I would just do it like this. I would literally stop there. See, I was always a short sleever.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I thought Riley was trying to say something. I like the pull-upper's. I was a long-sleeved, thin fabric pull-up to about right here. Yeah, that's godlike. Don't want to cut off circulation. You're always long sleeve. When we started making them yet. When you wore short sleeve jerseys, did you have a long sleeve under the shirt?
Starting point is 00:01:41 I'd wear a hoodie under you. Yeah, I would wear a honey under too. Like a really thin hoodie. I remember back in like 2009, I refused to play unless I, like I would put, they wanted you to wear pants. So I would wear shorts under my pants and take my pants off once I sat down and I'd wear short sleeves. I had to play in shorts and short sleeves. Your pants were around. It was like an OCD thing.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But that's like a brainiac shit. you sat down and then took your pants off. I'm walking on to the main stage with pants on. But when you got up. But little do they know. Did you take them all the way off or were they just around their ankles? They weren't around my ankles. But when you got up.
Starting point is 00:02:16 They were all the way off. That would check me actually. When you got up, did you put them back on like bathroom break? Uh, I don't think we really had. You walk off shorts? I don't know if they just made you make you fucking play. They just made you fucking play through it. But it was, it was such like a weird and I'm not the type of, well, I kind of.
Starting point is 00:02:32 but it was like such an OCD thing how to be in shorts had to be in a t-shirt I would be freezing but I'm like I just have to power through I don't know I always prefer playing hot Really?
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah You like playing hot? I would much rather play hot than play cold because then your hands are cold Then your shit's not reacting In the same way that you want it to And then you think you need hand warmers
Starting point is 00:02:51 What if they're not good enough That's why he's got chips Lots of them Yeah Lots of chips Rather just be hot and just deal with it Remember X games 2015? We're playing that tent
Starting point is 00:02:59 It was so hot We lost one map It was like a hundred. We lost one fucking mat. You just fucking, do you thrive in that? Yeah. Sweat-d-th,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the rest of my life. Formal thrives and hotness and 5MS monitors. Yeah, I'm like a lizard. The laggy shits. The laggy sheds. He wouldn't get checked.
Starting point is 00:03:18 That's the thing. It was my mental. Would you notice instantly? Yeah, would you notice instantly? Yeah, but I would also notice everyone else tweaking around me.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I'm like, you know what? I think that bad. Did you feel powerful? Not pitching? Fuck yeah. He'd bitch at me. I'm like, this might be a free chip. It's just so ahead mentally.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Like Birmingham World War II? I actually loved that event because I was like, look how bad everyone's tweaking. Everyone's checked. All right, let me just fucking not get checked. Dude, you're the same way with Dead Zone since. I'm like, yeah, go tweak about your settings, bro. You still can't kill me. Like, that's, oh, it's always, all of us.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Bro, I remember this event, I remember walking outside. I think we stayed at the Gaylord, like, that huge fucking, like. You ran that hotel. Ran that fucking hotel. There were alligators in it. It was crazy. But we'd walk outside and there were June bugs, like thousands. of them.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Thousands. I think I remember that. I was gonna say. The really thin things. And cicadas and shit. Google them. Can you Google a Junebug? And cicadas.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Thousands. You know that noise cicadas makes? What they like hiss? Yeah. I thought that shit was once every 17 years or some shit. It's not like fucking. Is that a June buzz? No, I'm thinking of something else.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Ain't there a bug? Because I've never heard of a Junebug. I've never seen a Junebug in my life. I'm thinking of something else. Dude, you're thinking of cicadas. No, I'm not. Like the ones that were hissing? No, they're like really tiny thin.
Starting point is 00:04:30 But you can see. wings really well when they're in light. Funny story, I actually was driving in the backseat. Well, I was in the back seat. My mom was driving. I was eating Pringles, and one flew in my mouth as I was eating Pringles, and I couldn't eat Pringles for like years. You were scarred?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, tell me how I haven't seen a lightning bug in like 10 years. Have you guys? I don't think it's existing. Not since I was a kid. You had an imagination. Can you look up if lightning bugs are going extinct?
Starting point is 00:04:54 I don't think they're here. Or is there too much natural? They're just not in Texas? I don't think they're here. There's not enough natural lightning on. It's even too hot here for them? Yeah, there's too much fucking fake light In the sky
Starting point is 00:05:04 They're in like the woods and shit They're not downtown Dallas Yeah, they're not in downtown Dallas See this makes sense In a fucking high rise When I grew up I was fucking always see them They can't fly that high Yeah, what?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, if you're in a high rise If you're on a high floor you don't see bugs That was kind of godlike That's one thing I do Yeah It's kind of nice Like no spiders the whole year Bro when I had a house
Starting point is 00:05:25 I was also a piece of shit human My dogs were just shit in the yard We had so many flies in our backyard Because I just wanted I just wanted to pick it up I broke up shortly after that That's fucking gross I think I look back at that
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm like how would anyone speak to me Like I'm just letting them shit in the yard I don't even want to talk about it anymore Because people are gonna like You're already expected It's worthy of judging me That's the old you You said too much
Starting point is 00:05:51 You said too much Yeah I already said too much Yeah no it was Yeah we put in a swing for Jack he fucking loves it yeah he fucking loves it I sent him a video yesterday that was a cute video
Starting point is 00:06:03 he loves it I didn't put it in his dad did but you watch him do it no I was playing Tarky what you didn't go out there you didn't watch his first swing
Starting point is 00:06:15 what am I gonna do no I was playing Tark what the fuck am I gonna do help him did you watch his first swing tools yeah because then I'm just fake helping then I'm like
Starting point is 00:06:24 here's the hammer no what do you need a screwdriver I'll go get it up actually no That's a lie, though. I didn't even know he was there. And then is texting me. She was like, the swings in. And I was like, well, because I was upstairs. I didn't even know he was there.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Did you watch his first swing? Or were you playing Tarky? Of course. He's not that scum. He's not that scum. I literally, I was the one that swung him. Aw. That's cute. Yeah. That's cute. That's cute. Yeah, he loved that shit. I wonder what, like, a six-month-old thinks when they feel the Dallas heat.
Starting point is 00:06:52 What the fuck is this? We took him out of like 7 p.m. What's going on out here? It was still hot, but not as hot. I mean, when you're just born and raised here, like, do you think about it anymore? That's a good question. Like, when you get older. It's a good question.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And middle school, are they at recess? Like, fuck. Like, this is so weird. They might not even go outside. No, I think so. Because, like, we grew up in the cold, like, on the East Coast. But when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm still? When I'm, when I'm, like, it's freezing out?
Starting point is 00:07:15 It's always complaining. It's not like I'm. Is that yours, Riley? Yeah. Oh, that's insane. That's super vibey. When did you get that? Wait, were you my neighbor?
Starting point is 00:07:24 Did you built that? Did you built that? What the fuck? Is that a fucking telescope fucked up? Is this scumbagg had this on a registry? He's handy, bro. What was it, 12K? $3,000 playground.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I said, whoa. Let me skate by that. This looks just like my backyard. It was less poopy. I lucked out. His registry was pretty empty when I actually went on to buy. Yeah, when he sent it. I got a...
Starting point is 00:07:50 I said, send it to the group chat. See what's any sense. I got a few of the essentials for him. Some of the shit, I skated right by. You're welcome, Riley. Of course, Riley. It's our pleasure. That thinks clutch, right?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Did you ever announce, like, say publicly? Because I've always not said it because I didn't. Oh, okay. And they hear, Riley, are we just talking to a ghost? No, we're just talking to a ghost. Just yeah. Y'all still don't let him talk? You just muzzled?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Never. That's not on me. I let Matt Craig talk on the fly. Who's it on? Because we need him. I won't say. Okay. But it's not me.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Congratulations, Riley. It's not your call. Yeah, congrats to Riley. Everyone's having kids. Everyone's getting married. I'm invited to like 15 weddings this year. 15? I'm exaggerating, but...
Starting point is 00:08:43 15 would be... There's a lot of wedding. It's like unhappy people. And everyone now has some nerve like you to get married overseas. Like, who the fuck am I? Stallone? You want me to fly up all my friends? This guy's getting married in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:08:57 This dude's in Greece. This dude's like... You loved Italy, bro. I did love Italy. It was nice. Okay. It was nice. It was expensive, but it was nice.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But I do feel like you have to be on. I do think there's... There's a short list of people I would travel to a wedding like that for. Like, I feel like if I'm traveling internationally for your wedding, you have to be pretty close. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I feel like... If it's like a tier three, I ain't...
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. No way. Maybe even tier two, I might not. Tier two, I'm still saying. Tier one, of course. It's got to be like... It's got to be... It's got to be S-tier.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And I'm seeing the... price of these weddings now? Flowers are 40K. I just don't care. What's going on out there? Well, Seth, did you care about like, obviously you cared about the wedding, but was it like mostly is who wanted like a big,
Starting point is 00:09:46 beautiful, amazing best day for life? Yeah. Did you not really, could you have just dealt with like Texas? We could have got eloped. We could have went to Vegas and seen Elvis for all. Yeah, that's how I feel. I mean, it's just
Starting point is 00:10:02 a ceremony it's like but I mean it's worth it it was expensive though but we got fucking fireworks it was very nice though we got fucking fireworks you I feel like I'm the same way I don't I could get fucking eloped I mean if that day will ever ever come
Starting point is 00:10:17 like what is that dude what is that like where did you get that okay first before post who tweeted that why find it so quick I'm telling you he's got files dude just the fact you have that saved is insane bookmarks ready for the pot somehow he knew we were going to talk about weddings it's fucking crazy he just has endless
Starting point is 00:10:36 he's ahead of the game yeah that was too quick he's got folders man everyone's name on it is everyone done with black ops too now is pomage the only one fucking loving it yeah i got hit off line and that shit bro it's like you play you just sent someone hit me off line who the fuck hit me off line in that shit someone hit off yeah i got hit off line after the very first s and d match no there's no way there is a way because more people would have gotten hit off though if you actually got hit off unless they got the one they were going for how would they know it was you exactly but it's that real 26 you don't think they can target someone they could target me back in 2012 maybe I don't
Starting point is 00:11:11 14 years later did you change your IP yeah I had to change IP okay at least you can change it because like Jay and Fattie and getting hit off that was me and Callie that was a that was me and PA well that was when I was sitting in the front request saying you guys want to play I'll play with you we don't have to hit me off anymore AT&T gave them a new modem and the IP didn't change because I had no other choice bro you could like buy like bundles of different IPs and you would cycle through them. You could buy like 10 IPs. Because I was static in PA, so I couldn't change it.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But they'd offer you to buy like 10 different IP addresses. And then you could cycle through them. Well, that was my only option. Or just get hit off all the time. Yeah, no, definitely. There was nothing worse than getting hit offline. And now it's like even more unacceptable. It was streaming.
Starting point is 00:11:53 You go off there. It was like, it was so foreign to me because it hadn't happened in so long. Because it was like, what's going on? Am I still live? And I looked and I was like, wait, reconnecting. I was like, what's going on? And I see like the little bottom left global sign. You know, the internet's not on.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm like, oh my God. So whack. Then it doesn't just pop back up. It's not like they turn off your internet. And I was like, I need to change my Pia think. You go to tweet from a locked account, smiley face. That's it. And they get so much dope.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'll never understand it. I mean, that one was even weirder because no one even messaged me. I'm going to get a water. Is that one on a lot? No. Just like it's like a sick. It was some sick shit. It's like a power move.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's like I'm still here. Just know it can be done. Would you least stick smashed it? But yeah, so I won't be on V-O-2 ever again, probably, ever again. If you're, if it's able to hit you off-line that easy, all it takes is this one bad chow? Why would it be in, one bad S&D chow? Why would it be in Black-Ops 2 and not, is it like that in other games? Well, so the old games were player-to-player.
Starting point is 00:12:46 In lobby. Other games you can't get their IP. Well, Blackop 7, there is no like real host. It's all server-based. So this game is like actually you're hosting, like player-to-player, so you can actually pull IPs. Black-Ops 7's, you join a server. No, I think. Who isn't sharp?
Starting point is 00:13:01 that sharp? No, that's the guy who like resets people's accounts. Yeah. He doesn't hit you offline. Like, he did it to Tim right here. What just happened? You. Like, it sends you back to level one? I think he sent him actually above Max prestige. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah, I don't know if we should even give this guy. Yeah, I'd probably should have this guy. Apparently he's been dealt with. Apparently. What they say? What the fuck? Let me get a clip. So Tim's getting hit off too. No, he's not getting hit off too.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Dude, he literally, he changed his classes. I'm master prestige. Okay, the emblem could have been worse if he changed that. Could have been way worse. You ever get on B-O-2 and you just see a huge pair of knockers and the ariolas are two that's key? Oh, I've seen some insane shit. Dude. I sent it to Hex.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I can't pull it up, but it's just pure sex. Oh, yeah. Just like graphical sex with emblems. It's fucking absurd. And picture, it took them so much. Time. Okay. Vains.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Curves, light, like lighting as if, like, the picture was being taken. Like, come on. People get deep out with that. The shadows are all point. It's weird. Come on, bro. Did you all see, uh, Pamaz's montage? I watched a little bit of it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I did not. I watched a little bit of it. We should play a little. It's fire? Just a, I think Pam just always does a good job. And you know what? A lot of it is like, the same. What is this?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Pam loves you too. I kind of like his song choice, too. People might hate on it, but... That's a good song. But just knowing... It's knowing the passion behind what's going on... What you're watching right now? Elevator music type B.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He loves this shit. No, he loves... I could see how snipers would love this, though. Like, this game is godlike for snipers. I can see why, though. Going from Blackop 7 to, like, this? Yeah, you can't... I mean, you can still snipe, but...
Starting point is 00:14:58 You're just playing dog shit. Like, pubs are back. I like Davis's new log, too. Did he drop the whole thing, or is that just a... Dude, David's... Chris has been doing a cool series like late night. He's trying to do like a cod gauntlet. So he goes, he like starts on like cod four and he'll play TDM.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And if he wins, he moves on to like World at War. If he wins, he moves on to MW2. And so on and so forth, shit's fired. He said he made it to Black Cop 7 and then lost, which I'm like, you meant to lose. Oh, so if he loses. You want to keep the goal to go and go all the way back off four. Yeah, I think so. That was, you threw it, buddy.
Starting point is 00:15:35 That shit's fire. We know. Yeah. We know how the content shit works. I've been watching him at night. Let's watch his fake fucking reaction to when he lost. How about that? Tell Nick's bum ass to stream.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Let's see how good his actors. This was during our Black Ops 2 stream, I think. This is what he was sitting here doing. Yeah. Jesus. I want to know why Hitch's coloring always looks so bad. No, I think this is intentional. It's always just like his vlogs.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He likes the vintage. Weird fucking vintage green. He wants you to feel like you're in like 2003. Well, you see, oh yeah, he still has that TV. He used to have like Halo reruns playing on that TV and shit. You can literally see the lines like going down the screen. He looks thin. He's on Reddit 2. Is everyone on that shit actually or do you just say it?
Starting point is 00:16:21 I'm not, I'll plead the fifth. Same. I don't know nothing about nothing. I'll plead the fifth. Everyone's on Reda now. O-Zempic. Not me though. I did that shit the right way.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, not me, though, either. I earned that shit. Black Ops too was fun, though. Whenever we played the, I thought I was going to get dominated in those eights. Dude, wait, you were actually, you were weirdly good, and your comms were actually really good.
Starting point is 00:16:48 But I like, I'm saying, if I wasn't on Wi-Fi, I might have this. He's like, Spawning Driveway, Spawn and driveway. I'm behind him. Or did it help? The Wi-Fi could help, because you get the lag.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Because they were telling me I'm laggy. Because you like, Pam's like, you're skipping around. I'm just, when you camera someone, if your shit's like, bad, it looks crazy for them. Yeah, there was sometimes I, I like, just pop out.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Then I get a kill, and I'm like, how am the fuck? Like, how was I not getting gun just coming around this corner? Yep. That lag kind of shit. But then sometimes I'm like, what? Yeah, sometimes you get bursting, but sometimes. Right hand peek? G-G.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It was fun, though. I enjoyed it. Dude, I was supposed to play in that. My fucking PC literally would not turn on. Here we go. Here we go. There we go. Well, no, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Matt Craig came over and he tried to turn on too. He couldn't. He said, wow, it's on turning on. See you later, Seth. Guess what he did? He unplugged the power supply on the inside of the PC and plugged it back in and now it works like it's brand new again. But I'm not fucking with that.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I don't know how to do that. Do he unplugged him back in and it worked? I need you that. Yeah, but he went into the piece. He like did it inside the PC. Yeah, you weren't having fun, were you? No, I was getting fucking. I mean, it was everything I expected.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I knew it was bad. I knew it was so good that night. I was watching. Zini was in a guy. him. He was like, he was like, I want to play with Damon. And Zim's like, you can have first pick? I was like, I was a little too quick of a response there. I know I was him. I got Bose. I'm like, even up
Starting point is 00:18:13 the team that said, oh. I'm also hosted. I'm like, oh, it's going to be one of these. Yeah, I didn't know what was going to happen with the teams. Host M8 is crazy. Me, Zinney, Bose. Well, me and Bose actually played though. Srewdy at first? I should have picked Bose. I fucked up because like, because we actually playing. We actually play. Yeah. I thought demon was, or Damon was about the run shit. That's what I thought too,
Starting point is 00:18:33 but I was just like. Just because it's Damon on Black O'Bop. Dude, Damon's so mad right now. He's flying to fucking EWC when Tarky season one dropped. I know he's pissed. That's the only thing on his mind. I know he's pissed. He wants to beat Eldon Ring, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:45 The DLC. He hasn't beat it yet? He beat Melania the other day. That was pretty tippy. What is this? The one match show won? It's an optional boss to do, but it's kind of like the final boss building.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You have to do it. Or you're a coward. This is the one map. The one map they won, that's what they throw up here. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I finally catch some flow. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:19:05 Let's play the S&D shit, actually. I was like, oh, okay. It's one of these nights. And then I get hit offline. I was like, okay, I'm getting off. I'm getting off. I'm not playing the shit anymore. Oh, yeah, I saw your text.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You're like, I think I just got hit off. I'm fucking done. Yeah. What? What the fuck? We definitely need to do that more, though. Just like play games together at night? No, maybe not Black Ops too.
Starting point is 00:19:23 He's like, we definitely need to play B-O-2 again. I need to host again. No, like, among us would be fun. What? Run that bad guys. You're on that bad. was like a fun vibey besides like you getting head off and stuff it was like a fun it was a fun time yeah i'm sure you were loving it we have optic legacy week i went to your chat just real quick they were like
Starting point is 00:19:42 look at formal's chat so whoa let me get out of there they were like no wonder only one once talking shit about you yeah yeah you were fine i was just double pods every map they were like this kid shit they couldn't believe it they're gonna have to believe it's already done history tell you right bush follow that yeah we watched the lcq yo war zone EWC was lit. I was an expecting... I tried to tell you. I remember us watching last year, who was it?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Was it me, you, Tommy, Tim. Tim, Matt was in there. Like, dude, it was a full-on fucking origin. I can't lie. I liked watching the Warzone better than the LCQ. I'm not sure if it was just because, like, the production value. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Because, like, the LCQ was like basic, just a call duty stream, which thank God they did it, W for changing that. They had casters, yeah. Oh, okay. But like when you... They were about to not do that, right? Correct, which was,
Starting point is 00:20:30 which would have been legitimately on except. Zinisepsin. When you do props to them for putting it together I mean they shouldn't have had to put it together last second
Starting point is 00:20:37 but they did put it together last year yeah so props to them The original production was awesome Probably wasn't easy to just be like all right well we gotta do a stream
Starting point is 00:20:43 fucking here we go This shit was hilarious I actually saw some stuff where people were complaining that they were showing this instead of the winners which I was like Listen
Starting point is 00:20:54 I feel like they showed G2 enough to where like It was okay You could tell the G2 players didn't even want to be on cam Like their interview, you could tell they were like happy that they won, but they didn't want to keep getting interviewed. Yeah. Like it was one of those, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It kind of got like milked. Yeah. They were like, it got to the point where I like was uncomfortable. Yeah. Because I knew they were uncomfortable. Yeah. Shout out to Big Man though. That guy, he went to land.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So this guy was frying online, went to land last year, played legitimately like awful. So everyone's like this guy has to be cheating because he was so good online and he was so bad on land that like that drastic difference means this guy's a cheater. Right. And then he goes out there and wins this year as he. Browen last game He won it He won this year I heard
Starting point is 00:21:34 I heard Repulse say he had like severe stage fright I think Yeah man Apparently got really nervous Yeah I think he just has like really bad
Starting point is 00:21:43 Stage fright and shit I didn't know he ended up winning He was frying This tournament Falcons got last Yeah that's not Dead last Rumors Biffel's gonna return
Starting point is 00:21:52 Nah but it was hype though Because I give props to G2 Because in the last game When they were on match point There was like Five I think five or six teams on it, but they didn't play, like, scared at all. Like, they dropped, like,
Starting point is 00:22:04 27 kills, I think, and their game winner. Like, they were still running people down. I feel like twisted minds started bottling it. Like, once they hit Matt's point. They were getting grieved. They were getting grieved by Falcons, I think. Yeah, they're getting grieved. I think it's so good. That's... That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Dude, I think their first game... Like your ex-teamate? You just start throwing his shit? Wait, so, is there beef literally just because they're ex-teamates? I mean, I'm sure it's deeper than that. I don't think there's anything else really besides that. I don't think he fucked his But I think that they don't like each other. I mean, that was pretty obvious.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But. Yeah, I just don't like each other. But like to grief them in a tournament like this? That's kind of crazy. But yeah, also, it's like LCQ versus this. It's LCQ for one team that's going to get in versus a million dollar prize pool. And listen, I'm not trying to disrespect the pit, right,
Starting point is 00:22:56 that got in. No, the pit's good. But they had a good run to pit. It's just, they're, they're, one team that gets in and they play phase first. But I mean, you could say the same about Mamba and Craze last year. I know. That's what my chat was saying. They were like, what about... Wasn't it, Omen? Was it Omen? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah. Momba and Craze, that tournament, I think, like, catapulted them to their roster spots. But that was a different phase than right now. They just won chance. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but... That was a fucking cell, fucking abezy-simp phase. Like, dude, I'm saying... They broke up. This phase just won jams. They probably broke up because... These guys are coming in feeling. fucking delusional.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So they might get, you know what I'm saying? No. Like, good delusion. Listen, listen, listen. I think that the Falcons beating LAT
Starting point is 00:23:40 the way they beat them and the first round in the champs would be more surprising than fucking whatever it's called. Like Aluka actually showing up with that Falcons roster
Starting point is 00:23:49 beating LAT, Winnerjohn 1 31 the way they did is more surprising than pit beating phase? You're not a tweaking. No way. You're tweaking.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You're tweaking. No way. Do you guys have Falcons getting anything other than 8th at the event? No, but... At champs? Yeah, they pick up some random kid from challengers, like, let's hear, hopefully fix us. And they come out and beat LAT. Clay was hyping them up, though.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Clay was like... So? It's his team. What do you say? No, I feel like Clay would... Because he was talking to Mark, like, personally. So I feel like he'd tell him the truth. It's not like he was saying it on stream. He was telling Mark at a Chipole. He'll let you know. We're nasty Instagrams. That? That's the...
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah. They might beat LAT. No, he said something like... You said something like, watch out for us. Like some shit like that. I think Faye's coming in thinking that this team's going to be horseshit. Could be weird, but do I think they're going to win? Fuck no.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I don't think Faze is like that. Yeah, they're not like that. They're one of the few teams that I feel like is always. You never really know how someone is until you give them a reason to do it. Like 0-4 abusa, they're fresh off a champs. They're walking in that venue thinking like, bro. Like even if we lose this shit, we're still fucking champs, bro. Like, we're going home ring.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Nah, dude, it's too much money on the line for them to think like, I don't. I also think phase is trying to like make a bigger statement too. Bro, it's like... The way Brian was talking about UWC and the way the pros view, it's like, yeah, it's an extra thing, but only three teams really can care about that, like, good prize money.
Starting point is 00:25:09 The rest of them are going to get, you know, railed. Like, these bottom, what do you get for 16th? Like, 5,000 bucks? Yeah. So the money's not that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. Obviously, Faze is one of those three teams. See, I think this is just like a statement tournament.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like, I think Faze really wants to win it and wants to stop us from winning it because I think us winning it starts a conversation about like, kind of like when phase won EWC, when they won EWC after we won champs. What was that like? When phase won that won the EWC, they were just discrediting it. It's a like, y'all lost champs though.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah. Yeah, which I don't think is like fair. I think champs is the most prestigious, but I think EWC is the second biggest tournament of the year. By far. The second biggest prize pool, it's the last tournament of the year. I think it's like the, it's the way you want to end a year on a good note. Yeah, I don't think phase is coming in.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I hope every team's going hard for this. I don't see... Yeah, I mean, why would you know? I mean, the tournaments, and like, in my perspective, like, I've won rings, I've won majors. Like, every tournament's hard to win. Doesn't matter if there's a ring on the line. The tournament's hard to win.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah. You don't go to the next term and thinking, like, damn, that was way easier. No, like, they're all hard. Like, and I just think people think, like, I don't know. There's too much, like, uh, not ring value,
Starting point is 00:26:24 but just saying, like, dude, everyone goes so much fucking harder at champs. Like, that's not true. Yeah. That's really not true. They definitely go harder. Like what? They do with extra S&D Vod Prep? Like that's the thing that I think about when I'm like,
Starting point is 00:26:34 oh yeah, we'll fix up our shit for champs. I feel like people just play more in general. I think the pressure during chance. I don't think that's true. The difference is like the pressure might be a bit higher. I really don't. They sit there, they scrimmed the same three teams for two weeks. Like I don't think that's that great of practice in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:26:47 For what? For like the teams that were, so say Optic, right? They screamed whoever the fuck was on the other side of the bracket for two weeks. Yeah. Like there's probably two teams there that they're probably not even getting in practice against. And then if they're not getting good. Faves, Falcons.
Starting point is 00:26:58 that was the other side, right? Okay, let's say from LAT's perspective then, because Optic had an easier side, right? So they played Optic, they get a good day against Optic, and then maybe what? Who else was on Optic's side? Miami, so that's like an off-scrim already. Optic Miami, and then it was Gentlemates and...
Starting point is 00:27:14 Coy? Like a broken Koi? So then you get your good day, you play Optic and Gentlemates, hopefully you play them together. That you get like a really good day. And then you play like an off day against Toronto and Heretics. Look, and they both got three-0s. I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:27:27 They're just playing the same thing. people over and over. Yeah, I think it's honestly better to get practice against everyone for a tournament. I'm sure they mixed in some amateur teams. Especially for search. I mean, like S&D, sure. Yeah. But then it's like, dude, how much are you possibly doing? You're going to the event, you're still auto be doing shit. Like, I just don't, I don't know. They're all hard to win, but I just think a tournament's hard as fuck to win regardless. Like, if you prep well, then you'll play well. But if you don't prep, I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:48 you agree at champs that the pressure is higher though, just because like, I feel like, I think people say that. I don't think so. It's like, it's like losing major too. We were playing. You're not thinking like, dude, I'm at champs. I got to make sure I don't scam this rotation. I know, but I think there's like that. I'm a champ. But I do think there's like this like, okay, you bomb out a major two, you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:05 fuck. But we have major three, major four and champs coming up. You bomb out of major three. Okay, we got major four in champs. Yeah, it's definitely like a good thing. Like at champ though, once your backs against the wall, I do think there's like, for some people, this devil on their ear saying like this is it. There is no more.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I mean, EWC, I guess is a bit different now, but like this is the difference is. there is no more, oh, we have this coming up next. Like, this is the tournament we need to win. I feel like that's one of the major differences. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a, that's a helper. Like, EWC being right after, especially this close to champs, like, dude, if you're LAT, you're like, bro, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Two weeks, we can try everyone out. Like, LACC can do a lot at this tournament. If LAT rarely win this, then you're like, dude, was this B.C really fucked up at champs? Like, then there's, like, a lot of, like, not a validity to what Scrap was saying. Like, imagine Scrap fries at EWC and gets MVP. Then you're like, okay, well, it's not actually wrong. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like, I just think that EWC is definitely a helper for these teams. Because if it was just champs, there's a lot of teams that, like... The PC stuff. Huh? On the fly cast, and Bruce were talking about the PC stuff. Yeah, Brun's a good point. It's just a lose-lose.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Like, it's as lose-lewsing. It needs to be the best shit in those things. 100%. I agree with Bruce. Like, you should be playing on a rocket ship at champs. You're talking about how other games play on the best of the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And what they give them is just like, it's a good PC. I mean, all you need is eight. Just on main stage, all he needs eight. He made a good point to that. Cod isn't that opposite. Like, God PCs. Just eight Cs on main stage.
Starting point is 00:29:34 5090, best processor, everything, unlimited RAM. Then it's like, does that fix it? Or will it still have like, God, my game still feels fucking. I think it's a bandwidth thing. I don't think it's a, well, no, they need to. I don't think it's a hardware thing. I think some of it could be a controller thing. I think all these weird controllers are putting into their fucking PCs nowadays.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Like, there's what? Like, there's like, the Marius. boards and shit. Like, who knows what the fuck? That thing's a computer in itself. Yeah. Like, and you're putting that shit in there with a cord. We're saying it depends what port you put it in.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then like, and the thing they're bitching about. Oh, yeah, the blue. What is this? What is a jitter aim, game, sir? Red. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:08 But like, like, you haven't seen that. No, I haven't seen that. What was, uh, Ann and Brandon's saying? They were saying like, it feels like heavy game, right? Like H5 heavy aim, Nick? What? Like, that was what shots you was saying? It's like, it feels like a controller thing.
Starting point is 00:30:20 thing. It's not like your game is skipping. You know what I'm saying? So I don't even know if it's like a specific like monitor thing. I think it's like we just he was saying it's just like not smooth like even slide cancelling or on Halo 5 it just felt heavy and it just I felt that on CDLPCs before too. Like you go up on main stage and it just feels off
Starting point is 00:30:37 because you play backstage obviously you're warming up on your your PPA PC and then you go to the stage and yeah there were times where I was like what the fuck? Why does this feel so weird? It doesn't help that there's a million different invidia settings
Starting point is 00:30:52 and then you go into like the actual Nvidia like app where there's like low latency mode and anti-aliasing and G-sync V-sync fucking dick sit
Starting point is 00:31:03 it's just five it's so many settings yeah and the game's also not very optimized too so like the PC should be so absurdly good that it tries to compensate
Starting point is 00:31:13 for the fact that the game is not properly optimized you got like there's so many settings bro like game bar settings or just like make sure game bar is all game mode game bar there's just so many you have to turn them on turn them off change this and that i don't think shotsy and hook are like that like shotsy and hook would not be sitting there saying that unless they truly thought it carler does it oh yeah i mean there's there's
Starting point is 00:31:35 i mean so many pros have said it it's like there's obviously truth to it when kainer was getting his shit switch i was like why yeah hooch switch that is fucked up who's getting his shit switch after a map one champs win and they won the map yeah and a crazy come back. I can't get a kill. I don't know if I would have switched mine. It feels weird. I might have waited until a map lost to switch it. I think that's what they did.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's why they played again. Dude, maybe it took too long. And it let them regain. That's what I'm saying. And then they went around 11. Butterfly facts. Well, I think they kept playing on the same PCs. No,
Starting point is 00:32:09 Kyler didn't. No, and then Brandon got his switch after a game. Tyler got his switch after the map one win. That's what I'm talking about. Like, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm Kiler and I know my shit's fucking up a little bit, I'm like, I might wait until a map loss where I'm like, okay, you know what my shit is.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Hey, tables are hot. Let's keep that shoe. Yeah, like you guys seem like you're shitting. Let's just keep going. Keep that shoe. Like until something fucks up, like, no, I don't know. I guess that's what you got to do. It's something around though.
Starting point is 00:32:35 We just went on a crazy tangent. But yeah, we'll see. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to Feli T come out and ball. I wouldn't say it's a crazy tangent. Do I think of them? It's going to be phased. No, it's definitely important. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Let's go back to that. But also, too, in the LCQ, that was a lot. Dude, that was the last time. You know, it's funny, too. It's like, that's the last time we see a loser's bracket possibility because it's going to be single LMEAWC. And omit, or not Omet, Jesus. The Pitt EU comes through losers and they win the finals.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like, how many, every single event, like it basically happened. Well, dude, the pit, it's kind of crazy. The pit got three-oed by Cobra's team. So that's when Jerry DM'd him saying, L-O-L. So real quick, just to, so tell you, so Bush was Renegade Awakening Pro-Lut and Fire, but they wanted Mythics on the team. And Mythics agreed to join.
Starting point is 00:33:19 bailed and said, hey, I'm going to play with my old team actually. And Jerry's like, all good. Then Mythics' team got 3-0ed at the event by Cobra and them, and Jerry DM'd him, L-OL. And then Mythics came back and won the tournament. That's absurd. And then Mythics tweeted, El Mayo, you're not going to EWC. You can't chew bodies to you win the map or until you win the series. That kid's gross, Mythics is gross, F-Dots gross.
Starting point is 00:33:41 EWC is so important for these challenger teams. But yeah, they lost 3-0 to that team. Then they beat them through the losers' bracket and made a wrong. run. It's also really important for like bubble pros. Like this could be their last shot to prove for next year to get on a team. Might see some hoaring this weekend. It might see some hoary. It'll probably be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We might not even see this team's play this weekend because they're not going to make it that far. But we'll see some hoaring probably tomorrow. Like some decent killhoring. I'm curious what these teams look like. Like I want to know how Boston looks because we haven't seen Boston since before champs at this point. And they were actually pretty good at the end of the year. I think a team that we're not thinking about is going to look a lot better than we actually. What about Cloud 9 with Quinn? Not them. Not them. No, I don't really see C-9 doing much. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Out of the bottom four, I feel like Boston is the only one where I'm like, Boston can maybe do something if they're still. Carolina with Trakes as well. Now you've got Trakes and Lurks. Who knows what that subdued looks like? That could be a dangerous duo. Yeah. I think Exceed has to prove a lot to me. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I feel like Exceed always comes into the league, like, during like that phase in the league where like people are still learning the game and he's frying. And then things kind of even out for him. And he starts, like, he has to play well. Like, I feel like he's playing for his future here. there's a few players like that so he's gonna be hoaring tomorrow he might be yeah oh Jesus Riley
Starting point is 00:34:56 we're still on this I'm gonna download this like what is this dude drag the RC coefficient yeah dude what am I looking at Riley found this fast you think he does this shit home won black ops too
Starting point is 00:35:20 so there's a controller that gives you more amassist okay that needs to be banned you're like tracking tracking have that's literally cheating tracking multiplication it's kind of similar to apex because if you circle strafe it literally will just like to stay yeah but at least you have to do that manually yeah this does it for you oh yeah no it's horseshit so it's giving you more aim assist because your thing jittering on it more so it's like you're tracking it dude there's literally a thing in apex called jitter aim well they'll just do this and it shoots straighter because of it
Starting point is 00:35:57 like what's the gun the uh the green ammo a r i can't remember what it's called the flatline yeah They'll just fucking Yeah, they shouldn't that shit in the range Like cross back in the end Okay Fellow's probably right here Just not miss Fellow's probably right
Starting point is 00:36:11 I mean the Torgonet organizers Tournament tournament organizers Probably don't even know Like what's what anymore Like what controller can do what They probably don't This is the first time I'm hearing About this shit bro
Starting point is 00:36:22 Dude you can pro Like your controller is basically You can't on tarantula So you can do so much shit To it like Dude yeah I don't even know What they're talking about The fuck is Tarantula
Starting point is 00:36:33 It's a gamester I think then you got Merck just pulling up the best buy I'll take a PS5 controller back in my day standard aim assist what didn't you do that stuff default controller yeah I don't know pretty tipping I mean I would get like
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Starting point is 00:38:20 Shut the fuck up. Depends what he says. You guys play in your fucking best you guys are better than everybody. We've seen it all fucking here. When you guys play together and play to your best ability, you guys are better than every fucking team. This young hacks. I wouldn't have gotten mad at that.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I wouldn't have gotten mad at that. I don't think it was valid. Yeah, I don't think so. I think that was pretty valid. Fuck yeah, Jerry. All right, Jerry. Let him know, Jerry. Love the passion.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Paris Legion ruined my life. Yeah, but bro, Lou didn't even play well at the LCQ. It's one thing if he's out there frying at the LCQ, but... I don't really know, like he joined Carolina. It wasn't unfortunate because of the meta, because, like, he was frying with the AR and then it became three MPC, so I understand that, but at the LCQ, he didn't, nobody on Bush really showed up on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Renegade got him to Sunday. I was so shocked when they lost. I was like, wait, what? Well, because they looked unreal a day before, but John was also dropping 1.5s. Dude, John was crazy that series. The Den HP specifically, where his team is about to lose in go game five. He just, like, he went insane. He went insane to, like, just stop that from happening.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And then Sunday, I feel like they were all just flat. Yeah. Like no one, I wasn't like, oh, this guy's getting costed today. It was just, they were kind of taking turns getting shit on. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I think that the pity you was actually playing really well. Not down.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Counting EWC, six duos have competed against, competed together in all three. There's been three EWCs. Dude, I'm telling you, time is weird. Because it doesn't feel, yeah, MW3. There's only two. This is the third coming up. Yeah, this is the third. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Okay. That, okay. Metals in real might need to split. How many teams go? I mean, Snoophees. 16? They're averaging 10th?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Fuck me. It's like, you win like your one pool play match? I'm curious to see how Ethan and D.K. Show up against, who does Ombet play first? Is the gentlemanate? I think it's made.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Pull that schedule on. So Ethan, Ethan and D. Probably the two most talked about challengers players right now. Like Ethan's undoubtedly going to a decent team, maybe even a top team. DK probably right there with him maybe I think DK gets left behind
Starting point is 00:41:00 You think so? In terms of Ethan I think everybody wants Ethan Well Ethan I think Ethan has the chance to go to like a top five team Like a team like thieves If they lose scrap and Hydra Or maybe just one of them
Starting point is 00:41:10 DK I can see on like a five through eight team Yeah Yeah I guess I don't know I just think the I don't know I think it's kind of shitty for DK Because like his boy is like so sought after Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:22 And then he's gonna be like a second option regardless And then that kind of like Just fucks with him you a little. But this is big for him too. Like, I'm curious how much weight teams put on this tournament. Like, let's say Ethan and DK don't play well against jump mates. Get railed. Like, get railed. Exactly. Like, what does that do? I would say probably nothing. Like, I feel like they've proved enough through challengers where it's like, okay, this guy's still, still gross. But do we think any of you? You're only as good as your last performance. Yeah. Do we think any of the amateur teams get out?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Who is it? Omit or? Well, it depends. Who does Omit play? Like, The Pit and P7. Who does Omit play? Omit Play, gentlemen. I know, who do they play if they lose that? That's a good question. That's the series like they could win. What do you guys think about?
Starting point is 00:42:07 It's weird because like there's two, there's group A, group B, but it's like. No, where you get to pick your opponent. Wait, really? So the teams that come through winners and win 3-0 get to pick their next opponent. Win 3-0. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you have to double 3-0. So if you win 23-0s. Oh, that's kind of cool, actually.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You get to hand, but what if you have a, but what if you have, you handpick your fucking opponent and you lose. Then you get big dogged. That's the worst case scenario. Like hey dude, we think you're garbage. So we're going to play you. That's actually kind of cool though. That is cool. It's a weird little Easter egg. Double 30, you can just fucking...
Starting point is 00:42:40 Double three O, we'll give what you want. You guys gotta be them. And we got coaches on stage again so they can talk during the response. That'll be interesting. Oh, shit, really? In between rounds of search. Wait, did that happen before? It happened in Blackop Six, but I thought it would be... Because I don't think, I think we overestimated how much you
Starting point is 00:42:56 can talk when there's already so much going on in these games. I actually think Damon could talk a lot, just given the optic comms. If Kyler's not calming, it's generally pretty quiet. Yeah. Damon definitely has a lot of talk. He won't, though. But like a player, like, or a coach like Clay with the Falcons, with how much they kind of like talk and then obviously Clay how he talks in game.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And their language, like, sometimes hard to understand. I don't know. They might, like, I don't know. I feel like you have brief sound by opportunities. Like get right. Like it's not like, yo, yo, you go here, pick up. Like, it's not. it can't be that in depth.
Starting point is 00:43:27 No scams! Just scream that. Yeah, I feel like it's nice and like if you're starting to go like one by one and shit, like the little slowdowns. Yeah, take a breath. Just reset here. Like stuff like that, but
Starting point is 00:43:38 here it is right. Any team that wins the first two matches with a score of 303 gets the advantage of choosing their opponent in the third match from among the qualified teams. Okay, is that like winners run? Or not one of the bracket? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:51 So they get to pick the round one matchup? That's pretty crazy. Yeah. I mean, that is not, yeah. And it is best of seven single a limb, too. So, I mean, the margin for error is not there. Add some tension. I mean, three, yeah, 30, three.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Wait, but how's the actual pool play? It's not pool play, right? It's a win and two before you lose two situation. Jewel, yeah. Would you say? The jewel system, went to before you lose two. No, that was called Swiss bracket. The same thing as Swiss, Jewel.
Starting point is 00:44:15 There's so many names. Same shit. But yeah, so this starts at 8 a.m. Central tomorrow, 9 a.m. Eastern. Wait, you never answered my question, right? 6 a.m. Pacific. Right in early. Who does omit play if they lose to me? But yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I was saying it's weird how they do the groups because there's eight teams per group. So it's like... It's not four groups. Because wouldn't it be like another team from their pool or something? Like a G2 cloud nine. It'd be one of who?
Starting point is 00:44:42 So it could be Ravens, Koi. Let's assume that phase wins. The pit. Let's assume that gentlemen's win. Omit could probably play a C-9 or a Ravens. I could see them beating both of those teams. Or either. But then they have to beat the loser of that.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So it's like, you're going to have to beat a really good team to get out at least once. Wait, who's on P7 though? For the most part. Is that Johnny? That's Cammy, Johnny, Snoopy, and Eric.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Johnny got to go to fucking EWC? Yes, dude. Oh, damn it. Everyone that we dropped ends up having success. Listen. Wait, who got third? Was it Dimensions?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Is Dimensions there too? We play Dimitians first round. Oh, damn it. Optic first Nemi first round. Godmett. Everybody would drop nuts. It's fucking hate. John almost made it too?
Starting point is 00:45:25 Dude. That would have been insane. Actually. I mean, I honestly think our Huntsman team had a good chance of qualifying if we could have sent them. Like, if they could have went, they placed fourth that champs. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were the next up.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Like, I do think they hypothetically could have been the one to go. It just sucks that. Technically speaking, they could work out. The fourth best stamp team at chance. Yeah. But I do think, especially for the pit, like, dude, being an EU player at this event is so important. Like, your only chance to get picked up is, like, in the off season.
Starting point is 00:45:55 As soon as the season starts Maybe Toronto has a bit of a cheat code But outside of them You're beat. You're saying like with the visa shit? Yeah, because first and foremost Some of these broke teams won't even go through the process To pay for the lawyer
Starting point is 00:46:07 Some of these broke boys Okay, Zinn, talk to them I mean, yeah, they won't pay the lawyer fee They won't go through It's just so much more convenient To get a person in N.A. who's frying So these EU players are going to be playing for their life, dude This is so important for him
Starting point is 00:46:22 It's going to be fire man Last turn of the year Also, rumors that Boston Breach got bought out from M80. Oh, yeah, I heard about that. Apparently, M80 is a pretty solid org. They're in, I think, rainbow. I think they have like a Valorant ascendant team. I feel like I've seen them in Valorin before.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Or like CS, maybe? But apparently they're a pretty good org. Yeah, I don't know if I've seen that. I think I've seen that in CS. The only thing that I think sucks about this is that Boston aren't one of the league's problems. Like, Boston still has all their players in apartments. They're still in a team facility. They're still paying pretty well.
Starting point is 00:46:53 out of all the orgs they could replace, I wish they were replacing a different one. But apparently these guys really care. C-9? What's their like home country? Are they? I think they're from Boston. Oh, really? I think they're located in Boston.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's a lay-up. Wow, I can't, how have I not heard of that? Oh, they are in CS. They have a cool little website. How's their CS team? I don't know. I know they were in the, they were at the major, I think, like playing stage one. I'm pretty sure they were playing in the stage one.
Starting point is 00:47:23 See if they're in Boston, Riley. Doesn't even say. Wait, go up and look at their team achievements right there. Go up. Wait, so you think that rebrand to like M80 in the league? Like Boston M8. I'm not sure. Maybe. M80 is a dope like clan tag. M80?
Starting point is 00:47:47 I fuck with it. Yeah, that's cool. And it's an ammo in Tarkov. Listen, and if they care, that's all we need. We just need to orgies that care. And I'm not saying you've got to break the bank on salaries because I do think of your team's 10 through 12. It doesn't really make sense to pay.
Starting point is 00:48:00 What makes you think a team cares? Do the bare minimum. Have your team in a facility where they can play together every day. Like you shouldn't have a player in Jersey, Chicago, Cali, and Texas, especially in an online environment. I think that's a bare minimum. Put them up. Force them.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And just give them housing. There's no way that's like that expensive. Put them in like some apartment. 2K. You can make them both stay in like 2-2 and just have two apartments. I don't know. Santa Monica and Boston. Who the fuck are these guys?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Rockefeller? Coast to coast. Yeah. Santa Monica's probably a good place to be. I wouldn't get a damn thing done. Yeah, but you'd get shit on online, no. Playing from Boston, though, that suck. Playing from West Coast?
Starting point is 00:48:54 That's right. You had a disadvantage if you're not in Texas. Like, if you're West Coast or East Coast, is it? No, not necessarily because there's servers everywhere, but... It could be, like, a weird advantage. Because sometimes the Texas team will get fucked They'll throw them on like the Oh really
Starting point is 00:49:09 What server? I thought they were always just biased For like the Texas Central area They hate Chicago They hate Chicago They hate Chicago Then you'll play Toronto
Starting point is 00:49:17 On Chicago Atlanta It's good Atlanta Sometimes they throw them on Atlanta Sometimes you play Atlanta on Atlanta Remember that's a cold water Oh yeah Dylan
Starting point is 00:49:25 That's fun Dylan missed the email That was really fun Yeah sorry guys We said you knew You knew and you didn't fucking say anything Me and Brian said, what?
Starting point is 00:49:38 I saw you play the new Halo and then I didn't see you on it again. Oh yeah, but that partially was because my AC broke upstairs, that was a nightmare. Wait, what happened? That was what happened. My AC broke. Dude, my AC's broken every single year.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I've been in Texas like at three different places. We had to get ours replaced? It's not a place where you can just have a broken A. But the downstairs one works, so I would, me and my girl were just kind of living downstairs a bit. When we had to get ours replaced, it was like midsummer. Oh, my fucking goodness. My room was like, it was like 80 on the thermostat every day.
Starting point is 00:50:07 It was miserable. It was so hot. I mean, the HALA campaign wasn't too bad. I did speak like, I didn't want to play it. But then I did try it one day just because I was playing with like Druck and Trippy. Like if I was playing myself, probably wouldn't have tried it. But wait, what is it? A new Halo?
Starting point is 00:50:19 No. No. It's the HALO campaign. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's just, I mean, it is what it is. It is a fucking Halo campaign remake. Is it the exact same fucking Halo? There's like three.
Starting point is 00:50:31 There was three missions that weren't. the first one. There was three missions that weren't the first one. That's it. It's just like, I don't know what they're thinking. The pillar of autumn. So when is the new Halo supposed to come out? I don't know why you're looking at me. Well, I mean, I'm looking at both the HAL guys. No one fucking knows. I heard like late 2028. But like I also think. I heard 20. What? 2030? I've heard 2030. Unless they do something different. Like if they just make a Halo infinite like a multiplayer,
Starting point is 00:50:58 it's just going to die again. Like I think they're fucked dude. Like okay. I think they're fine. Gears though. Gears though, resurgence. Okay, listen, I have to be honest. I'm not sure if Gears has legs either. I think Gears has a suck unless the number one team that was playing comes back and they're talking shit again. I think they're going to just why. They're done.
Starting point is 00:51:19 When you think gears, you think of the gears environment. If they get the opportunity, they will. Is gears coming back? They just do they get the sports wise though? I don't think so. I don't think so. But they might have some little. I think they have a good chance of like getting some attention right now.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Like for my experience, right now, I haven't really been wanting to play anything. I've been playing powered a little bit. And by little, I mean, a lot of power, actually. But, dude, download Tarky. Let's get fucking strange. Like, I'm back in this, like, similar. I'm like, too, I don't really know what the fuck I want to play. Dude.
Starting point is 00:51:43 So, like, Gears has a chance, because hopefully I'm not the only person that says that. I just feel like games right now. There's just nothing really out that's really grabbing me. Like Tarkov, you. Okay, dude, stop it with the Tarkov. Dude. Gears has a chance to get some new fans, is my point. It does.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I will play it because there's nothing else to play right now. You know what I'm saying? This is their chance to get like the next generation too. Yeah. Like especially during this downtime where I feel like, I mean, Arc Raiders kind of fizzled out. Like everyone's kind of looking for a new game. So I do think they'll have a chance.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I just don't, I just think you really have to do something different to really like make a longstanding splash. Like for people to play Gears three months from now, they really have to do something amazing is what I'm trying to say. It's just so hard to keep people. Like Arc Raiders was the game that I thought maybe had legs and now look, it's kind of fizzled out. got run by cheaters right i remember people were saying it was the next fortnight and i'm just like
Starting point is 00:52:32 shutt oh wait what was arc raters yeah that game that game lasted how long no i know it was it was pretty big for a while it was massive it was on some fortnight as big as it was the only game how many months was arc raiders a thing for like six months probably i would say four six months and motherfuckers were calling it like the next fortnight how come there wasn't cheaters in Fortnite. Like during that big Fortnite thing. Like what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:53:00 What was so good? You gotta build. I don't even know. Can the cheats build? No, you could just aim bot. Like, if you aim bot, it doesn't matter if you can build it. I think there were cheaters, right?
Starting point is 00:53:07 How the fuck were they, how the fuck did they stop like all this cheating stuff that every game seems to run into? That's a real good question. That godlike? No. Well, Valor has a good anti-cheat too, right? It's all right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It'll stop the game completely. Give that red screen where you're like, ah, it's like an Easter egg. Yeah. Like, oh my God, someone's cheating. but Fortnite, like imagine it was infested with cheaters the way the Arc Raiders got infested with cheaters That shit would die too.
Starting point is 00:53:28 It would be unplayable. Yeah, it's like, dude, I don't know. So the game came out in 2018, right? I do think cheats, I think cheats advanced to like a whole new level. I'm sure they have. It's been eight years. Like these past few years, cheats are like a different,
Starting point is 00:53:41 you got AI now. Get this out of here, bro. Hire someone to, they need to hire someone to only look over like pros and streamers matches. Taking a picture of his fucking hardware Yo, my chat was telling me Black Cherry Zins came out. I might have to give him
Starting point is 00:53:56 a fucking whirl. Looks like there's someone on his desk right there. What MG? 6. I got three and six in my pocket right now. What you want? Three. Yeah, apparently Spider-Man's awesome. Yeah, I want to see it. I'm going on Sunday. Spider-Man Odyssey. I do want to see it.
Starting point is 00:54:12 We finally watched Obsession. It was awesome. What did you think? Awesome. Yeah. Loved it. I want to see that. It was a very unsettling, good movie. It was just good. It was good. Dude, if this fucking Hulk was in front of me, I would I would kick this guy in the back
Starting point is 00:54:26 Yeah, that's absurd Where is his like face? Is it in the mask? It's got to be in the chest, right? It's got to be in the chest. But yeah, I haven't seen Disclosure Day yet And I've been begging
Starting point is 00:54:44 Is to watch it But it's like two and a half hours Well, apparently it's horrendous Really? Apparently, yeah I wish you wouldn't have told me that Unfortunately. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I hate to be the bearer of bad news But I was- What about backrooms? I wanted to see it too. I heard backrooms was weird Okay, I'm cool with weird. Yeah, weird's supposed to be. Yeah, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Could go either way. Obsession was very good, though. I see backrooms kind of like, have y'all, y'all ever seen as above so below? No. Kind of like that. I think I have, actually. With the Paris catacombs, they like get lost.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then weird shit just starts happening, the lower they get. Jonah Hill says he can annihilate anyone. Like, Jonah just stopped his, bro. Yeah, Jonah stopped his, bro. I'd still fuck you up. Me's to not love it. Maybe I won.
Starting point is 00:55:28 He needs to, my wife is often like, you're not going to become like a professional fighter. You know that, right? He needs to stop fucking talking. What? You'll see. I would fuck you up. But truly, right?
Starting point is 00:55:44 This is this jujitsu brain. Motherfuckers start getting. And I'm like, I would fucking annihilate you, dude. I'm not kidding, dude. Try it. If you see me, try it, dude. but what if he's nice bro just embrace
Starting point is 00:56:00 but what's wrong with being a fat kid from Superbad bro embrace it I used to be a fat fuck I was jolly you're saying he's like yes so much yeah he's like
Starting point is 00:56:12 and I don't believe him that he's like he's like someone calls me the fat fuck from suit I will annihilate you like to shut the fuck up just it's because he's straining jujured beer
Starting point is 00:56:21 that fucking monster through your head put the beer in the detergent yeah and go fuck go go for a run get the period blood on your leg be the idiot nobody wants to see you doing don't do this jona if someone
Starting point is 00:56:34 if someone is nice at jiu jitsu they will fuck you up i just don't i think he's been training i just don't believe that he's that good you should challenge it's not going to go his way you should challenge him to a jiu jitzu off m m m mopic maniac optic maniac jona hill i do think he's unfortunately i get paid like 25k he gets like couple mill it is a fact that you do it for 25
Starting point is 00:56:56 as a cheat code for comedy. It really is. Like him fat compared to what I just watch is, it's not even the same, man. Yeah. I mean, yeah. He can make the same joke and it's just interpreted differently. It doesn't it based on how he looks. He's like his personality's different.
Starting point is 00:57:10 There's like a... It's like he hates the fat him. Yeah. You have to love the fat you. There's just no one better than fat meat. I feel like there's hate in his heart. There's definitely a lot of hate. I mean.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Like, uh... He probably got... He's holding shit against people. It's just fucking building. I'm just fucking building. I'm praying for you, man. I'm not caught up, Riley. I need to watch the most recent.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Oh, we watched the most recent episode last night. It's bad? Yeah. Okay, don't say anything else. For a season, for a pre-season finale, I was expecting a lot more. Were you? Because usually in like shows nowadays, I feel like the season finale, the pre-season finale is usually better than the season finale, in my opinion. I was also a dumb fuck thinking that this season was the last season of House of Dragons.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And it doesn't seem like it is. No, it's already greenlit for. there's another one. So like when I went into this season, I thought it was going to be just like nonstop carnage, carnage, carnage, and I'm like, week six and I'm like, wait, what's going?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Where the fuck is Vagar? Yeah, I'm like, there's no, there's no way, like, they can finish this. So, I mean... Where's the coolest fucking dragon at? I've been seen them in six episodes. I don't think it's been that bad, but there's been a lot of like weird,
Starting point is 00:58:19 unnecessary scenes, in my opinion. There's just too much going on. There's too many storylines, and it's like, I don't know. They try to do what they do with Game of Thrones, where they make you interested in everyone's story, but some of the stories in this show just aren't that interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:30 They're just not that interesting. Yeah, they're not. Game of Thrones was OP. Like, which characters aren't interesting to you? I mean, like, um... I think Damon carries. I mean, Damon's definitely very interesting. I think Aigon was, like, very uninteresting
Starting point is 00:58:44 and he's slowly become a little more interesting. Yeah, I think Aemon... Yeah, I think Amon's pretty interesting, but he's also just like a little fucked up. I think that they think... I feel like they could have done so much more with Aman because he is like, he's kind of badass. like he's like the
Starting point is 00:58:57 but then he has like this weird Achilles heel where he's all fucking weird you know what I'm saying like he's like a little too weird where he wants to like fuck his mom or maybe you should cut that I don't know but he does want to fuck his mom like it keeps happening yeah it's a bit odd it's a very very weird thing yeah I mean that's definitely strange but he does have that like badass like dang he does got the cool little one-eyed he's got the cool one-eye thing he's got the biggest dragon like you know but then he wants to fuck his mom so then you're like wait what
Starting point is 00:59:22 see I don't agree with that part but like they're kind of bad ass Yeah, no, I definitely don't agree with that. Everyone's got flaws. And they all do incest. Yeah, their brother-s-sister shit is cool, but like the fucking mom thing. Yeah, the-old's married to fucking... The fucking...
Starting point is 00:59:36 Reynra. Damon's married to Raynara. That's not that bad. That's not even... No, their cousin and uncle. Dremont Green's a cousin-in-old. It's his brother's kid. Oh, cousin-un-un-un-cool.
Starting point is 00:59:46 He's not fucking his mom. Like, let's just keep going back to that. Cousin's cool. Okay, let's not fucking part incest here. It's all bad. I don't give a fuck. Cousin, uncle, fucking, whatever. Nephieve, niece, it's all bad.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I mean, it's bad, but in this, like, in this universe. Actually, now, fucking other mom is the worst. It's fucking crazy. That's fucking insane. That's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, I think the show is not horrible, but I just don't think it's... I think Night of the Seven Kingdoms was so good that it kind of put the damp around House of the Dragon.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. Because Night of the Seven Kingdoms was legitimately fantastic. I'm just not expecting much from House of the Dragon specifically. I just want the dragons to fucking fight. That's it. Like, it's house of the dragon. Let's just watch the dragons. I don't care about anything else.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Like, I'm not going to do spoilers. But, like, when the dragons start fighting, it's what I'm interested in the show. The storylines, it's nothing compared to fucking Game of Thrones. It's nothing compared to 9-7 Kingdom. Is looked at me last night. Like, I don't want to spoil, but dragons are fighting. And she's like, you're jizzing your pants over there right now. And I'm like, y' up and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I'm like, finally, let's fucking go. I'm just silent. I stand up and I'm just rock hard. Caraxis, Drachis. I giz. Oh, should be in the pod there? My bad Brandon. What?
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'm gonna piss myself. Ah, this clip was really good. Oh, was this the... The Krempe? Yeah. Play off the crowd. What did you say? This was like two days after traps.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Yeah, no, I mean, it's good they can laugh about it and show, you know? Like, Kremf is fucking hilarious. Like, he's actually very funny. We got Brandon a couple drinks. He started. Started forgetting. All right. For the time.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Ultimate 1-1 draft. Things that start with D. Huh. Things that start with D. What the fuck? No pressure, man. You got it, man. Well, just one word keeps coming to my head, but that's not the one.
Starting point is 01:02:05 What? Dudes. It's definitely not dick or dudes. Dongs? Uh, how about this? Dumps. Like taking a dump. Tell me that's not a great feeling.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I'll go drinks. Geez, like none of these popped into my head. Fuck! I wanted that one. Now I'm trying to think what... I'm trying to snipe what you're thinking. You won't. You're not as intelligent. I'm sorry, I'm bottling this.
Starting point is 01:02:42 D's a weird one. Dinosaurs. What? You went straight to my tism? Dinosaurs Fucking dinoes What's yours? Drugs Shit
Starting point is 01:02:54 Fuck I don't know if we can even put that But Recreational You can have dumps I mean prescription Prescription Can I not use that
Starting point is 01:03:05 Drugs asterisk Prescription Okay well phone Couple's activities What's that Oh wow dollars is a good one Dollars would have been good Worst couple activities
Starting point is 01:03:16 Oh boy Um Dude, I'm about to piss my son That's a dangerous one. Hmm. It's okay. Worst couple activities. Worst couple activities?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Let's just go watching a Glenn Powell movie? What the fuck? Okay. What does that mean? I forget Glenn Powell. That's like the girl's equivalent to Sidney
Starting point is 01:03:42 Is he a odd blonde? Oh, it's that dude from, uh... Oh, yeah, that guy. Yeah, that fucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually did watch movies. Yeah, a movie came up. A movie came up.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It was like, no. And I was like, it looked awful. And Iz was like, we should watch that. I'm like, first off, you never want to watch movies. Second off, throw on Sidney Swaney. Right now. We should watch that now. Oh, I got mine.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah, she was so hype. It was like, I know why you're hype. Fucking hot. Shit. First couple activities. I don't know. Did I tweet about this recently? It's a hard one.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah, because, see, my girl just likes doing shit. I like sitting around doing nothing. That's the doing shit. Doing anything. I feel like that's a cheat code? No, I feel like it's all of us because is this the same way. Worst cup with doing anything in the world. Let's go for a walk.
Starting point is 01:04:48 No. Let's go rock climbing. Let's do yard work. Let's do yard work. Let's wake up early and go for a walk at 5 a.m. Like what? Okay, well. Is it doing it?
Starting point is 01:04:59 is not saying that. Let's hang out. What? I'm gaming. No, it's not hanging out. Wait, fuck. What was mine? I forget.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I guess let's just say, uh, dude, what do I say? It's a hard category, man. Just pick one, man.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I'm about to piss myself. Come on, just pick one. He has to go to go. After mine, I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even have ideas.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I have an answer. Like, it's that bad. Dude, it's three more categories. You have an answer? I have an answer, right, yeah. But we're not skipping you,
Starting point is 01:05:31 so just go. Put some bullshit, man, you lost. Say anything. Look at mine. Holy shit. I'm choking here. Can you come back to me, at least? No.
Starting point is 01:05:50 That's not how this works, pal. Dude, I don't know. Say anything. What do you hate doing with your girl? Does she watch the pod? Are you going to show her this from the pod? Then say, what are you doing there? Albini will post it on social, though.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Shopping. Oh, my God. Yes, shopping with my girl. It's miserable. Holy shit. Aritza, dude, she's lost for an hour and a half. Let's go therapy. That can't be fun. I'm gonna say...
Starting point is 01:06:11 I can't be fine. I never done therapy before, especially with... Like, I'd go there with my girlfriend. Playing never have I ever. Playing never have I ever. Truth or dare. That's actually a really good one. Sports uniform color combinations.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Blue and white. New York Giants. Does that have to be a specific team or? I'm not thinking teams. I'm just saying what goes. Yeah, like whatever is cool. Let's go black, black and red. Black and red.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Holy shit. B.H. Haryan. Is B.T.H. In your head when you said that? Huh? Was B.T.H. in your head when you said that? Always in my head.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Shit. Go ahead, man. It's you. Oh, shit. Sorry. Black and gold. You all fucked up. Black and green, optic, Eagles,
Starting point is 01:07:14 shit, other teams. Are the Eagles black and green? Yeah. Green and black? Aren't that green and white? I think it's teal and white. Look up a Eagles logo. Are Eagles green and white?
Starting point is 01:07:24 No. We're going to see if this is the ultimate fake fan right here. Bro, what are you saying? Pull up an Eagles logo. Their jerseys are black and green. Yeah, the logo is green and white, though. But their jerseys... Yeah, uniforms, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Oh, they have the green and white variation. Yeah, what? There's a little bit of black in the logo, actually. teal and white. Alright, I'm about a piss myself. Okay, come on, let's speed through. NFL players you want on your side in a 2V5 fist fight, Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 01:07:56 It's you. Miles Garrett then. Give me Miles Garrett. That guy literally beat a guy over the head with a helmet. Do I want Metcalf here or Donald? Give me D.K. Metcalf. Let's go. Nick Bosa. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Solid pick. I'm gonna go Aaron Hernandez. And we ain't fighting fair. GGs. GGs. What a pleasure. I won this one, right?

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