OpTic Podcast - FORMAL REGRETS LEAVING OpTic | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 36

Episode Date: August 7, 2021

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Wait, who calls who? Brian, Ian calls Pat Master. What the fuck? Sempire or some shit? No, master. It's not some trolley shit. Welcome, welcome, everybody, to episode number, waiting for Maddie to scroll up. Number 36 on the Optic Podcast.

This podcast is brought to you. Only 36, which is one of the squares that I bet when I'm playing roulette. This episode is brought to you by Keeps and Away. and I'll tell you a little bit more about them later on in this podcast. Lots to talk about, lots to discuss. How was it coming out to the crowd for the first time in like a year and a half? Crazy, right. Let me set it up for you.

And you were there too, so please feel free to jump in. So when the players come out on stage, they don't just come out and point, right? Or do that. Before that, you have to go through the back, up through the side as you're listening to Lottie or as you're listening to, who else is there? It's like the interview of the last series. So they're doing the interview of the last series and then our players go up and set up.

And set up. Essentially they bring their controllers and then they're waters and all that shit and then they put it all together and then they get off stage and then they wait until they call their names and then they go out and then they do the pointing thing. So when they...

Yeah, the point of it. So when they got up, which is one of the coolest shit, it was awesome to see the crowd do it back to you guys. So you guys super fucking like plan that out or probably. Oh yeah. That's just that's so dope. It was so fucking dope.

It is one of the coolest shit I've ever seen. I was just going to be. Just crying. But. Yeah, that was crazy. It was nuts, right? Like I was sitting backstage. I was getting his water and it's something else.

And I was holding their phone. Or I had to get their phone. So I had to go to say. But the second that these four step. stepped on stage, bro? Dude, just seeing that many people again was nuts. It was nuts. It was nuts. There was only 1,500 people.

Really? Think about that. How much his champ seat? 3,500. Really? Yeah. No way. Guess how much the fucking Win Trust Huntsman event would have been? Seven. No. We sold 7,000 tickets, yeah.

No, dog. Imagine. That would have been insane. So seven times that, minus the 500. I don't know how to do the math. What the fuck, math? Yeah, so it's 1,500. We sold 7, so 7 times what you saw minus 500 each individual one up there.

Yeah. That's a lot. That's crazy. That's fucking nuts. Anyway, so they get up there and then like as like one of them starts taking the step over the other, like, and the people in the back start to see what the people in the front are fucking cheering on, the crowd just went. Yeah, it's just like erupted. That was probably one of the loudest as soon as the guys walked out. to set up before there wasn't even on broadcast or anything no that was like one of the loudest

i can't wait for the process in like six months to drop so that we can see that fucking shot because that shit was crazy i get it roger takes a while yeah at least you were only late like three hours or some yeah uh every week can't do what i used to do which was so much better the provision holy shit the way he said it is so Roger doesn't, oh, thank you, sorry, sorry. Roger's flicking us off. No more. Roger is the, I thought that I was the authoritarian here.

No, it's Roger. Roger's the one that fucking Yost at everyone. I was flicking switches in the back room. He's like, oh, you can't do that. I'm, what the fuck? I'm like, why? He's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, all right.

And then all of a sudden, Claire walks in. Shout out Claire. Claire walks in and she's like, just flip the switch. And I was like, Roger said, wait, what the fuck am I saying? So I flipped the switch. But how do you, man? I mean, obviously, like, you were like, they were there for you guys. Yeah, that shit was nuts because we hadn't played yet, but we saw a couple other matches go, right?

So, like, we knew, like, we went after, like, the Seattle and Faye's match, like, one match after that. And we heard, that was pretty loud, right? That was a lit-ass series, right? That was, like, as loud as it was going to get, like, unless we were playing, probably. And, like, but, like, we don't know yet how loud it can get, you know? And then, like, the first time we walked up, it was nuts. Like, it just felt like, I looked at my, I glanced at my right, and then I saw it was, like, a pack. house and I was like what? Yeah and then in the whole room started shaking yeah setting up

I was sitting there setting my shit up with chills I was like what the fuck is going on? I know about to be so lit yeah it's probably why I sprint so much the first game I wish I could have ever experienced that what that would have I said I wish I could have experienced if you would have went you you would you could have experienced we were champions but there were times there were times in Halo where it was like packed right like for what it uh like back in it but It was packed for like the little stands That they had 72 people

Yeah Oh I thought It was just 72 people Surrounding No No there was Wait they did try to make those pictures Like lit as fuck

It'd be like But back then it was Fucking lit as fuck It was It was it sounded loud as fuck But isn't there Like a clip out there Like a Halo chant

Like they're all chanting Like Halo or something I know one to Or maybe they're chaining like Final Boss or straight They're chanting something And there's I was like damn It was at a

I know at Pax, before I joined Optic, like a bunch of the Pax just like spec people. We're just like walking around. And that's the series. We like went to overtime four different times. And I looked up after we lost, of course. And it was just fucking packed.

And I remember just standing there, be like, damn, this is crazy. And like, just to see what it's become now. Yeah, you should. Why did you come? I don't know. You should have came. I didn't want to, I was thinking about coming on Sunday, but I didn't know like how to get in.

If like COVID, if you had to get tested and all that stuff. And I wasn't trying to go through all that. It would have been annoying for you for sure. That's just not cheesy or anything, but you going out into the crowd up made me so happy to. The way that you got the whole crowd hyped up was fucking like, I was like this. With a tear. It was so beautiful. It was just the first time I heard the Let's Go Optic chant.

And like there were people like in so long. And like people were doing it and it was loud But then I went up and I was like They get louder Yeah and they got louder Yeah It was fun And then I had to come out to give this dude the shit

So I'm obviously gonna be like I'm gonna say hello to the fucking crowd for sure So they got fucking they're yes I'm like Roger Roger has a shot of you going up on stage And that shit's crazy I haven't seen it yet It's dope

I can't believe he hasn't shown me But as I was walking up Roger's like no Get the fucking go there I'm like all right I am getting yelled at again So I go and I go and then it's like make the crowd fucking say something.

So I go up there, I go like this, and then it's like, pa! I was like, oh my God, I felt like Bobby Turrentino. What's the name? If it's a movie, I don't know. No, no, no. It's, it's, what's the name? Logic.

You see? Oh, what? You know his real name? I was thinking about, like, Kilbill, no, that's not his real name. To Quentin Tarantino. No, I was like, no, that's one of his nicknames, Bobby Turin's, I think. I don't know why that came.

I don't know why that came. I know who logic is, obviously. And he's got this bit where he, like, does this whole thing with, like, sectioned off crowds. Oh, really? And it's, like, the most lit shit ever. But we're talking about, like, 20 to 30,000 people, right? You know what I'm saying?

But I tell you what, I'll put up my 1,500 people that showed up to that 30,000. That was a lit-ass crowd. Yeah, they turned up. If you're watching this and you went to that? You were in loud? You were loud. I hope, I hope Champs is that lit, too. I mean, if it's.

It has to be, right? It's going to be better. Yeah, that's going to be not. Just remember Anaheim and just think about how many people haven't gone to Anaheim in the last two, like industry people are going to go just because they miss going to the Hilton bar. I'm going to take, I'm going to take it upon myself to change just only it being the let's go optic chant. Like we got to have something else, like some sort of like tradition. I have a few ideas. I'm thinking about getting like a drum, just doing the thing.

Yeah. Like, so having a drum and then like having people go No, like this. Let's go optic, rapa, pom, no.

No, no more hype? No, no, no. Crowds just. I'm just playing it. Did you, did you hear me? Uh-uh. I'm like,

let's go optic. Rapa, pump, and then he said no, and I'm like, what, more lit? But just have it like, what they do at the FC Dallas?

House game is with everyone like has their hands up and then it goes boom boom and they go La and they say something if we did like the boom boom and everybody's like chanting and they Oh and go to green Wow that should be great well that show would be like that one of that one of that will make the team win All right imagine Hitch walking around with the drum that like you strap on your back and it's in front of you like the oh that like a real drum The metal overalls can And then here I come, like the nod crack, like,

We all have our own instruments. Rod is killing on the sax. You're like, what the fuck? He's like a sax solo? Josepo's guitar. No, Josefo's Mexican. Ocepo's Spanish guitar. No, he's not Spanish.

She's got a banjo for some reason. What the fuck? No, he's got the accordion, because he's Mexican. I'll rock the accordion. An accordion? Oh, wait. Oh, the little sholi-ass slinky. Yeah, the slinky piano.

I'll be the recorder. Hot cross buns. Oh my God. No. He's like, who's that? He's like, oh, that's the optic team. He was like, what do they do? They play professional call duty.

Yeah, but they also do a very mean flight of the beat. And then here comes Nick Kenyon. Start like the drumline. He just challenges you. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm Like, you just give me those fucking drums. I'm about to fucking snap off right now. You just have a full-flood, like, duel?

What the fuck is going on? The crowd's like, holy shit, what the fuck? Where are we? Let's turn into a Disney movie so fast. The lights turn off. It's like two fucking things just pawned on the moment. Two lights just... You guys are midmatch.

I'm just like, yo, what the fuck? That segment was brought to you by Pine Park. It was not. But I'm saying, like, think about how those conversations would be. If our minds just went there, through that whole scene, just sober? Just imagine how much fun. All right, so you come out to the crowd.

The crowd gets super fucking hyped up. Then you have to come back. Then you do the cool shit, right? Which is the pointing of it, and then all the fans are pointing back at you guys. Like, what's that feeling like? It's got to be like... It's actually, like, good for me

because, like, obviously... You invented. Yeah. So, and then I realized, like, wait, this is going to be so... Let's do the point again because they're going to have to point back at us. And then everyone had that realization

while we're standing backstage, and we're like, this is going to be so cool. But at first we couldn't really tell Because they just looked at people's hands were up But then I started focusing in And I was like what the fuck They're like pointing right at us And I was like this must be like a sick

A sick ass shot like a side view shot Could be sick A side view shot You could look sick We were on the side It looked fucking I was like in shock At how dope that shit looked

Me and Josefren or me and uh Who was I with? Oh yeah It was me and Josefelman And page were like And then here's his fucking sender And his tippy toes like That was good

I look I missed it I missed the crowd I missed like absolutely just that. The only thing that obviously sucks is that we can't interact with the fans as much. And it only happened like three times where people actually came by and said, yo, can we get a picture? I'm like, sorry, man. These dudes are going to get fucking fine.

They're not supposed to be like doing that. Is that going to be the same thing for champs? It has to be. Even probably worse, right? Probably worse because it's not Texas. If you get COVID and it's Champ Sunday, you're in the winner's finals, you've but 1.8, you're just, you can't play. Tragic.

Tragic. It's going to be, yeah. I'm like, you're pissing this cup for me? You're like, that's not how that. Oh man. I don't know. I'm looking forward to champs though. Obviously, we fly in.

We got some pretty cool stuff planned. Can't talk about it, but I just want to let you guys know. And more than anything, I think that the, I'm talking about Anaheim and talking about L.A. and the West Coast. Like, California has always been like super, super green wall fucking friendly. Like, like, I mean, to this day,

I still have a picture of Seth on main stage from, 2013 I think it's Adam Appicella took MAMP taken it wasn't even like crazy yeah and it's just you know what I'm talking about where the we're tiered out yeah that shit's sick it's it is what sucks is that picture if you look at the gameplay it's octane dom

it's literally the game they joked oh is it yeah it's literally the exact game but it's a yeah it's a sick shot still I see a green and uh and Seth on the big screen that was one of my favorite events that was a sick pick that was a dope pick yeah That's the one with him right there.

Oh, it was Oz. Shout out Oz Enrique. That's my brother. He's got a lot of good picks. Yeah, I mean, he's like, he was like, Josef and I were talking about how he was like the first of his kind in the sense. Yeah. For sure.

Right? Because I remember. And you know what? I went back and I was looking for all MLG footage. And one of his videos came up and he used Ghost Rider by RJD2, which is like my outro song. Yeah. Yeah, my outro song. I'm like, oh my God.

This dude has been on his shit from the beginning. His brother, Ory is also pretty good. Not as humble or as good looking as us, but he's trying. And don't give him any crap for that. Champs, obviously, we ended up coming in third, right? Which sucks. I think we had it in some of those things. Like for sure, definitely the first map.

If we were one of the first map, obviously, there would have been a completely different series. It's just, it's caught, dude. Like, if you look at any of the eight teams that are attending champs, can win champs on any given day. Like you have, you have three good days in a row as a, as a team,

and you can win. You know how easy it is to like, get, like, have someone get checked out for 10 minutes and, like, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal,

but then you realize, like, now you're down 01, they have like a, it's a different type of team that you're playing against. Like, they're playing more confident.

The whole series is different. And then it's like, you can play the same team, like, a hundred times in a row. You're getting a different series every fucking time. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, it's just going to be different every time because everyone knows what the fuck to do it's the end of the year like everyone can play respawn pretty much same way everyone's seen like all the search strats

you know people get a little bit creative but it's just like that's just like a shitty part about God it's like any day you can beat someone but then also you can be on any a given day we've seen it happen to everyone

you know it happens but I mean we saw it happen in the finals yeah I've never seen like that before my life that was insane from like the way that Toronto was doing it like they were like

Minnesota was probably you know 60s 33 or something like that. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, like think about it from Minnesota's POV. They go into the final, they're in the final, right? Like, they're stoked. They just three O' Toronto and Winners finals.

They're like, bro, we got this shit. And then all of a sudden they're down four like that. And all they're thinking about probably for like, it's all in the back of their heads where they want to admit or not. They're like this format was just so garbage for us. Yeah, like not being able to warm up. How are we going to sit here and watch them just beat Optic? And then we go and play them on the same app.

They just shit on optic. And then like we're sitting here like, all right, let's get the shit. And then they were probably down four in like five minutes, dude. Yeah. Like in their heads. They were like, what is happening? Yeah.

This is over. But then like, I mean, I never seen like that. Yeah. Very tip. I was telling, I left like on the fourth, a second, on the second map. And I was, I was, I was off when I were driving back. And then I got home and then Jude asked me. He was like, what was the, who won?

And I'm like, I don't know. Let me see. I open my phone and I see the one. I turned it out to the perfect timing because it was like showing the graphic of, of the four ultra fucking signs and then going into like the last and final map. I'm like, oh, Ultra won. I'm like, we knew we were gonna win.

They were like super warm, hot off the track. Did Rocker get practice in before that? Do you know if they have final warm up? No, they were planning against Brian. Like, they were planning against each other too. Like, they're in a free for all together. It's going to shoot against each other. Like, I mean, but think about from their point of view,

how tilt would you be if you just beat that team yesterday? Winners finals 3-0. Now you're in finals down 4-0. Yeah. And you're thinking like, there's no way this is right. Like, what? Yeah. Like, how was this, like, you know what I'm saying?

That's what everyone was saying, too. So much tilt. It's like almost a disadvantage in some sense. It's a huge disadvantage in that sense, yeah. To win winners. Yeah, because people were saying like, oh, Minnesota didn't get the warm up. I'm like, I was sitting there and I was like, there's truth to that, of course. But in my head, I'm like, shut up.

Like, you know, Toronto's a better team. Toronto's going to win. And then they do that. And it's like, all the shit, they're warmed up now. And they're winning every fucking get mad. That shit was crazy. So nuts. I'm happy for them

Dude, Ran into some funny as shit Ranan goes This shit I had me crying He was like I mean Attash is always

guaranteed a slice of the pie And I was fucking dying at that dog I was like That is so facts One way or another Attach gets his slice Yeah

It might not be a huge slice That year Or like it could be a small But he's getting a slice Unless Every goddamn year I mean He got a big one

this one man I mean as big of a win that that was in the manner in which they won how they fucking won making history along the way like it was fucking beautiful man it was beautiful call beautiful call dude I didn't watch a great Dave Cod I feel like the whole community wanted them to win the game nine yeah for sure I feel like I think Toronto knew that they're like I kind of want them to win you know what I think Toronto players no no when it was trying this would be kind of sick I just don't think I don't think they lose that game nine ever I don't think there's a world that would have sucked if they did if they did they Like, I don't think there's a, I mean, if you're Toronto at that point, you're so in your own head.

Dude, a lot of it had to do with the maps that I think, too. Like, game five to close the mouth, they had to win Miami. And Miami just, like, it can ice any team. Like, it's just a different type of map. Like, you could be hot that whole, like, series and then just be like, I don't, I'm not really fighting anyone. Like, is that a guy? You know what I'm saying? Like, it could just throw you off.

And then, and then you have a Gary control after that. And that's just a ratty-ass map. Minnesota's gross at that. Like, and then they can get in their grooves, start getting little little pieces and shit. You know what I'm saying? because they opened up on Checkmate, which isn't like a little like a ratty game mode. It's just like you're just like chowling basically.

Yeah, it's like a run-upy. And then like they're just like, holy shit, we just got obliterated. Like you can get obliterated on that. Yeah. And then after the gear control, it was like a, it was another search.

I think it was a standoff, standoff S&D. And that's like another good S&D for Rocker. Yeah. But I'm telling you, if they would have played Raid S&D Game 5 instead of game 9, like Toronto probably would have closed it out right then there.

That's one of Toronto's like best maps. They look final at that shit. Yeah. With the way that they were playing, they were just running at them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they were a 4-0, they would have played that dumb confident. They would have just running down mid every single round. Yeah.

But instead of having Miami just stop them in the tracks and then it starts snowballing. I didn't even think about it like that. Yeah, it could definitely stop a team in the tracks or if like you're getting smack. Like if you got smacked map one, you're like, well, it's Miami. We can calm them down a little bit. It's like, okay, we can all take a breather. Everyone get your own little groove. Yeah.

But I don't know. Still typical. A lot of things surprised me this. past weekend, right? Obviously, the first one being how, I want to, I want to word this correctly because I don't want it to be, seem as I'm steering it somewhere, but how, how loud the crowd was against Atlanta phase, right? Versus Seattle? Versus Seattle surge? Like, it's just a Cinderella story. Everyone roots for that. Everyone. It's not, the crowd was against phase? Yeah. Like, have, like a 99%? Like, like, doing them. Yeah. Like, kind of, yeah.

booing them. Kind of, yeah. Damn. And Dallas. What? In Dallas. I heard that. But it was like, I heard the Dallas one.

Like Dallas walks out. Home town. Boo. I was like, oh my God. Wait, you could hear that on the. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah.

That's fucked up. I thought you were saying Bruce. Yeah. Bruce. I was like, let's go, Brandon. Uh, man. I, I, uh, I was surprised on the phase one because in, And it's so happy for Serge, mad that they're not like,

they're sort of turning the corner and they're not going to be a champs. That's just, dude, that series does not go that way without a fucking crowd. And you cannot convince me on the other ones. 100%. I was saying that because obviously, like, Josefo and I were coming from here because we came back and forth. And I was like, I was like, dude. Like, if Faze is getting shook from that crowd.

Yeah. Continue. Imagine, like, I thought for sure Fais was going to pull through. I was like, imagine, like, they're not going to be able to handle. like the real crowd like no offense to this surge but I don't think that was it was mostly I mean like you had also take a new account of the things though

it's Alex brother that's a whole different level of like a match for him that's one thing yeah that's one thing we're talking about too they want to beat each other bad damn bad I think look I think that I don't know who the fuck was discussing that I completely agreed is the fact that when they play each other when the twins play each other

this is what I said yeah yeah where Preston is like going super final seems like Preston is a different person and it seems like Alec doesn't want to beat him that's what it seems like from an outside perspective like it seems like our cities is like the successful one all year

but it's like that one time they're gonna match up it's almost like he doesn't he knows he's like the bigger stronger better brother but he just like kind of wants to see kind of wants to see his low his I don't know if he's low brother

or whatever I don't know if it's like a mental thing it's just like the Krem and Akes thing It's a different level of match. It's like, Aix could lose every event all year and then play Ian and it's like, he's not going to lose Ian because he plays, he plays his best against Ian and Ian's like always goes, goes in and just like, oh no, it's Pat. I feel like it's the same thing.

My master? I would never call no man my master. I'm just going to say that. He doesn't say my master. I think he just says, like he's the final boss. Okay, fine. Still. Wait, who calls who?

Ian calls Pat and master. What the fuck? Fuck. Sempai or some shit? No, Master. It's not some trolley shit. Oh, man.

Look, I thought that coming back and opening it up to the crowd was like a great success. I, you know, aside from, you know, the certain things that have happened since. But aside from that, like, I thought everybody, like, more importantly, aside from like the maybe top, maybe 10 people and the three fucking pro players that were in the fucking crowd taking fucking pictures, not going to see. saying any fucking names. Not going to say any names, but like, that's wild. Like, come on, man. Like, I know you never... Changes in two weeks, bro. Like, you've never been here before. I get it. Taking pictures and signing autographs, like, feels good. It feels good

to be loved. I get it. But there's protocols for a fucking reason, man. I thought they were... They don't get in trouble for that? They... I'm not... Look, I'm not got rat nobody out. You're in a snitch? No, fuck that. Dude, I'd rather lose than be a snitch. Dude, I saw Hydra, dude. I saw Hydra.

Just like... Oh, okay. I'm not gonna like saying it was how it would look so fucking weird just 360ing just fucking getting cracked on cameras and like scuffs and shit I'm like what the fuck I'm like dude and there's just lines from all angles it's like a fucking like it's like it's like it looks like ants we're just like oh piece of cake cheese cake just like I got you I got you I got you yeah like I was like what the fuck yeah I like that that to me was like I know no and I look I get it I understand like maybe he's never experienced that yeah no I get it I get it like I've been there it's fucking cool but I just yeah was just like taken back but I was like holy shit did not expect to see that and you're like this way oh shit what map are we it was so hard like denying people like yeah yeah like can we get a selfie and I'm like yeah yeah far as fuck man like here and then and then some people would just be like all right and it was like

that hand I've never felt I was like oh is it you just got a hot shower and some cold yeah it just it felt like I was like I was like I was like that you just got a hot shower and some cold dude's hand just like I was like I was like I was like that I was like that I was like that Oh my god, the hands infected. Did you try to like stay away from people? Yeah. Even like walking through the like I because I would. I only walked through the crowd three times.

And it wasn't like he was fucking say like literally just. Yeah, no, I just walked. Is that how we got to be a champ? Yeah. Can't really like walk to the venue. Well, I think you're with a, I think you're not. You'll be. You'll be you. You can't come close to us as well.

I can't come close to you. No. It's like there's a VIP section for everybody. Oh yeah. Especially you, you're gonna get, like, a ratchet on a Thursday night. Probably. And interact with the whole fucking bar. Like, get the fucking...

We'll see. I'll fill it out when I'm there, but I ain't trying to get the vid. Okay, so you're blacking out the night you got to go. Then just going to sleep, not hanging out with anyone. Just think about it, right? Like, he hasn't gone out in how long? What's the last time you were in an event? Fucking two years?

Been a long time. Oh, my God. That one night, you got drunk here? Should be fun. You got drunk here before you went out and you were like... Oh, yeah, weren't you here? like yeah you're like i haven't been drunk in so long i haven't been anything i've been sober for six months and you were just like shit kind of sucks what being drunk yes yeah it's not that good

i i i got i got i partied a little bit a little bit the fuck out bro can we tell the story yeah which one the uber oh yeah i don't remember what the fuck you're talking about but yeah dude uh so apparently you got so apparently you got so drunk that you tried to Uber back to the hotel but you put in the wrong thing and it Ubered you all the way back home. Yeah. Don't tell no one.

No shot. Yeah. You didn't tell that to me. No, because I forgot. To here? You don't see him more fucked up. To Texas? So he had to drive his other G-wagon back the next day

and then Josefo drove his G-wagon from the other day back. So they double-j-j- Wait, so you just get out of the Uber and you're expecting to be at the hotel and you're just at home. Bro, but I was like, I was in the back. I was in the back of the Uber like this, right? And then I would open my eyes. He goes up and he's home.

Bro, I was like, I wanted to know what Jude said when you got. It was the worst. Like, what are you doing here? How are you sitting? I was like, dude sitting? I may have had my, my, my, my, my, my T-Role. For some reason, ask any of my friends. Would I get, like, I got, like, are you so fucked up the way?

You were looking at your phone? Like that fucked up? No, bro. And the worst thing happened. I get there and I'm loose like, I just like, nothing. I saw what happened. I just get there. I go through the garage

and then I'm like, I say, go to open my door, I'm like, fuck, the code works, but the, the bolts up top are locked.

There's no chance that I can get in there. It's like, fucking three, it's like, it's like, two 30. So I'm like, okay,

so I walk up to my garage and I start putting in the code. I'm like, what the fuck is the fucking code? And then I'm like, okay, cool. So I go through the back and I try to get into my back office

and I remember that I lock the bottom. So I'm like, so I'm like, I'm like, all right, Let me call Jude. And then I hope I, as I, as I grab my phone, it dies. And I'm like, no.

No shot. So now I know that I'm going to have to knock on a fucking window. All of the dogs are going to go fucking nuts. Liv's going to wake up and see Dad drunk. Jude's going to be fucking pissed. She's going to be angry. He's going to be so angry. And all I wanted was a sandwich.

Okay. You probably tell you something. It's so worth it. I need to knock. I need a sandwich. Chat, what is what is your go-to? When I get home drunk, my go-to, my go-to is always. always been a like a grilled cheese sandwich,

sandwich, but in the microwave. So I'll grab two pieces of bread, one American cheese, slice hot dogs, jalapenos, cheese, and then the other bread, throw it in the microwave. By the time it gets up,

you've got to flip it over, otherwise the soggy bottom is going to stick to the napkin because why I use a fucking plate, right? So I flip it over, and that's all I wanted. That's all I'm trying to sneak into my own fucking house.

That's all I'm thinking about it. Keep thinking about it. And then I ended up going through the side door, and the top bolt on that one was not on. And I remember the fucking code, and I was like, you're like, I'm in. I can't get home drunk and start cooking food. Like, I need to stop at fucking whatever.

McDonald's hits so hard when you're drunk. Yeah, it does. Does. So does pizza. Pizza does too. Tacos? Have you guys ever had tacos drunk, bro? I don't like tacos.

I like the spike. I like them, but they're not my go-to. I like tacos sober. Pizza. Like I said, It's like a little treat. Yeah, like I said, my goal to is that is that sandwich,

that hot dog fucking grilled cheese with jalapeno sandwich. Sometimes I'll eat two if most of the time one will do it. Yeah, two, that's got to be like like because going to the effort of making another one. You got out, you got a,

and I'm not talking about like, like, hey, what's up? We'll say, I'm talking about like, that sort of drunk. And not realizing you're going way fucking further than you are? Like an extra 30 minutes? Yeah.

Yeah. That drunk. You weren't even like questioning like, are you this guy like kidnapping me? I remember one thing clearly though. I know how to get home from over there. And I know it's all highways. This and I like, when I woke up the first time I look up and I'm like, I realize what was happening.

I'm like, fuck it. I look and I'm like, we're on the side of the highway like on the side roads. What are they called the frontage roads? And I'm like, okay. I'm like, I'm like, I close my eyes. And then I wake up and I'm like, we're still on frontage roads. I almost told the dude, I'm like, hey, why aren't you on the highway? But I figured I'm like, I'm like, I'm drunk.

He's going to say something. I'm going to get annoyed and then we're both going to not have a good time. So I'm just like, fuck it. So I'm going home. I'm going to have not only my sandwich, but I'm also going to have a bomb-ass breakfast because it's Saturday. My mom's going to cook. Shit.

But yeah, I got fucked up. You were thinking about it in the car. You were just talking about the breakfast. In the back, she's just like, mm-hmm. Yeah, nothing soberes you up. Oh, man. And it hurt. Being being hungover hurt so much, which is why I quit drinking.

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I cannot tell you how happy I am for fucking KSI Talk about a man that goes for it And fucking accomplishes it Like what the fuck This dude not only changes the face of YouTube As we know it From a comedic standpoint From a gaming standpoint

From a lifestyle standpoint But then he says to himself You know what I want to do I want to fucking box KSI Oh okay I want to I want to Well, he boxes first.

He raps for it. I don't know. But now he's rapping with fucking Little Wayne. I didn't even know that. I didn't know that easy. Yeah, what's up, man? I guess he has a song with that. That's sick.

Lowell Wayne's verse and that song is crazy. Good? It is crazy. It's my favorite rapper. It's my favorite rapper. Really? Yeah. What?

It's got to be Cap. I don't think I'm ever here talking about Lil Wayne or listening to Lowell Wayne since I've known. Same. That's got to be cap. Isn't it Lil Dickie? Ooh. Ooh.

Wait. We don't know about how. how much you fuck would wane. I just feel like it's like that. I just feel like it's like. I can't just love if you're joking. I'm not joking. You haven't heard me talk about.

I'm as seriously that was that night with the sign like. What? Nothing. Second mic. Pink pong. Boom, boom, boom. So anyway, so he does have a song with and it's dope too? Yeah, it just came out yesterday.

That's sick. What's it called? It's called... Lose. You pulled up the rap lyrics. Tell me, give me a bar. Give me a bar. What do you say?

What do you say? What he said? What you say? It's just the way, the way little wins. Hey, yo. All right, now go. You got a lighter. Yeah.

Something like colossal or something like. I know how you guys are right now. You would say it and we don't do. Yeah. I know you guys are right now. Either that or we'd be like, oh. Dude, what? You got a thumbnail?

Say it in. Just know his verse in that is insane. His like the way he like does his multi-syllipals in that. Yeah, I gotta wait till after chance listen to it. Think KSI paid for a feature? Yeah, he probably paid like 70K. More than that. You think so?

Maybe more. It has to be more. It's little fucking Wayne. But he might get like low Wayne. Oh, no, I guess low. It's probably more because Wayne sings in it. He does the hook too. He does the hook and he does adlips to it.

It's not like he just did one verse and then sent it in. Because you can tell like, Lil Dickie did that song with the game. And it's like the game. verse was just there and it like had nothing to do with the actual song it was just a verse and I was like that's very obviously you know low Wayne heard it heard what KSI was talking about right right and then sang to it harmonized with himself and sent in like ad lives and stuff like he went hard you just blew my mind what that's crazy my favorite raps on all time is notorious thugs

with notorious b.g and bone thugs and harmony but it was life it was in the album life after death this is post-mortem album. And also you have the, like, his verse on a, on, what is it, on the verse, or on the rap song with Biggie and Eminem. Like, they weren't alive at the, or, yeah, like, that was put together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was put together. And I don't know if, if Notorious Stokes was put together. Huh.

Yeah, it was all post-mortem stuff. But, well, unless, unless, like, it's like Mac Miller's case where it's like he finished the album and then died. But, like, most post-mortemortem. stuff like engineers put that shit together. Fuck. Yeah. Well, whoever fucking did that. And you know what? That notorious song song is... Yeah, and you know what?

I'm going to say something. Okay. Puff Dad, if you're watching that. It's like, the fact that he fucking includes himself in there in that fucking song, we forgive you for you know not what you do to do, do. Like, come on man, like leave that shit out. I almost

feel like editing my own song and moving that shit out of it. What? What? I went up Sony Vegas. There's a Drake song where Drake like goes crazy. And then at the end it's just birdman talking for like a minute and a half. And I'm just like, come on, man. Like not rap, not rhyming or anything.

Just like saying. Just talking. Yeah. And listen, I love Puffy. I love who he is, what he's done, what he's accomplished, put the fuck out of my favorite song of all time. Now. Now.

I just fuck when you can tell with like, you can tell like, you can tell like like um they both are just like have the same mind for that sound like that song right so like the Drake future album that whole album they just have the same vision you know that she's crazy mix is so nice like you're just like this is just such a good I think they made that in oh in like a week yeah I heard it was a week like what Drake future Metro boom and just went to like Atlanta I can they're recording like together yeah in that in that album all three I like that stuff too they're like they're going to the club then they're go to the strip club and it's like y'all oh shit it's go to studio studio and they're just vibing they're they're high and trunk just diamonds diamonds

diamonds to so fucking sick when they like hear it for the first time they're yeah play that back that shit's probably crazy like holy shit both of their solo songs i could talk both of their solo songs in that album are both none's fire that album's really good because that song jersey by future is one of my favorite future songs and so they just did like a bunch of collaborations and then two solo songs. Is that what a time to be alive? Yeah. What is that?

It's just like a, it's just like a bang. I know. It's just like so many bangers. Every single song. Came out. What was the first of diamonds on me dancing? I think. Yeah.

No. No, it's something else. That first song, it's Digital Dash. Yeah. That was like, digital dash. I think in a, in a Drake interview,

Drake said that that was like their anthem that whole week, which is replaying digital. I'm saying it felt like it was that vibe I bet you they made that song and they were like wait let's do like four more five more I think that is how it went yeah that shit was just like because like views was way different you tell he was just like a bunch of different mindsets and views like you know what I'm saying even the first couple songs like a bunch of different fields because that was right I think that was after if you're reading this it was like he dropped if you're reading this and then that came out like six months later or something like that so it was just like he was rapping for like a whole year is it like a lot to say he just like a lot to say shit yeah Yeah. That was a great time because that, what a time to be alive,

I think that came out 2015. Right before I moved to our house. Yeah, it was like right when I joined Optic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We all got to enjoy it together.

Because I remember when I moved, when I moved in, that's when, with your body pillow? What a time to be alive was out. With your body pillow? Remember that? Yeah.

It's like, I'll get it. I had that body, body pillow for a long time. Yeah, we saw. Did you have a blanket that was all torn up? No, I had a pillow.

You're thinking of a pillow. You're thinking of a pillow. It just kind of looked like a blanket at that point. It was. It was fucked up. Hey, look, comfort is comfort, and you sleep the way you sleep for a reason. It's a feather pillow. I haven't slept the same sense since you guys bullied me into throwing it away.

No. Wait, listen. Hey, listen, it looked like this. It was pretty bad. Right? Yeah. You're fucked up. It was pretty bad.

It just had. It was like my childhood. I didn't even think about it. And then you guys saw it were like, what the fuck is bad? I was like, no, nothing. We, we bullied him. I regret, I regret bullying him into getting rid of his laugh. That's, I do regret that.

Yeah. You guys, tell me about that. Just like when Hitch first joined Optic, he had a laugh that was more like, no, you did. Yeah. And then we started every time he would laugh, we were, ta-ha-ha. And literally, so next time he laughed here, it's just like, ha.

It's so true. We'd be in the kitchen, right? It would be me, we'd be filming something in the kitchen. He'd laugh and then you hear Nick like from his room. From all the way in his room. You would hear this, right? Like the podcast we're hearing right here. He would hear it.

Right? It was so faint, but from so far away, I'd be like, you could definitely hear it. It's fucking hilarious. It wouldn't even turn into conversations. Like, I would try to talk and then one of them would go, and then I couldn't talk anymore because they would just start busting out laughing.

It was so good It was really good You're messy Explain this messy thing Is he for real or is he Wait hold on Afterwards Tah

What are you guys I don't even know if that's I was doing your lap Pose I don't even know if that's how you were laughing It's such a big change He's just like Oh, he's like, Kawhi Leonard.

He's like, Uh-huh. That might be the only time. Uh-huh-huh-huh. That's good we do. No, that's Kauai Leonard. All right. That was like the only time.

That was like two months were the only time in my entire life that I've like tried not to laugh in like certain situations. Because I've always had like a very flamboyed laugh. Fake laugh. Fake laugh. It used to be ta-ha, and now it's just ha-ha-ha. Now it's just really extra. There's a movie called The Long Shot. It's like a rom-com with Charlize Theron and fucking Seth Rogen.

I've seen it. So good. I've seen it. But there's a part in which the prime minister of Canada is talking to Charlize Theron. And he's like, yeah, my public has told me that I can't laugh the way that I laugh. So they gave me a more presidential laugh. He's like, but I don't like it. and then he's like that's my real laugh

and she's like oh my god thank God for you fucking pumice I remember that when they were like a party together or something yeah they're in Mingling or something that's fucking hilarious awesome movie by the way watch it is so good so good what's it gone? The long shot

I ended up finishing the what is it the oh yeah so I've been telling True Detective I've been telling these mouthfors to watch True Detective One of the best series in TV That shit's nuts How good? What's it on?

On HBO. Have you ever seen it? I'll start it tonight. Okay, bro, please. It's worth. It's worth? Yes. I would watch season two,

but just know that it's not going to hold a candle to season one. Have you seen it? I haven't even started. Okay, listen, you're going to like it, but it's going to be, it's not a pale in comparison. Is it the same character? Yeah, it's a completely different characters? Yeah.

Okay, I'm probably not going to watch it. Okay, but if you're not going to do that, if you're not going to watch number two, if you're not going to watch number two, then watch number three because number, what? He just smells like shit. I just hate it when people smell like shit.

I don't know it's not it's not shit and he's most like every every man every man and I say men because men are fucking gross no chance that a woman or lady or girl

would smell like this like that but everybody yeah but everybody has experiences he smells like he like he watches clothes and he didn't try it that's what it's exactly yeah it's like like

I've had clothes like that you washed him you fell asleep you woke him actually like shit yeah my clothes were sitting in the washer for like 20 hours and then I tried it. And I put this on and I was like, it doesn't smell a cat piss,

but there's something about it. And I was just like, whatever. Like, no one's gonna smell it. No one's gonna, no, yeah, no one's gonna, unless someone comes up to me and literally takes my shirt, rips it off. Comes it up and then all. Then they'll smell me.

But now I walk right in there and that's like, or no, you're like someone, something fucking stinks. I never even went for a sig. Like, at first. I was like, but then I thought could have been someone before you yeah you can leave a cent you went for a sake you're like trying to try to help them smell like smoke yeah but for the record i showered yeah it's just

no look like i said you normally smell really good thank you like i said like i said yeah you smell okay yeah you smell tasty what but like i said every man every man watching this has has encountered that time or another where you don't know how to watch you don't want to be that fucking guy. I forgot what like, you are. No one wants to be like, but today I'm that fucking guy and it's a sticky boy at school. No, I'm glad it's like, you know, it's just between us.

No one else has to like know that. I would never say this in public. No one else has to know that I showed up smell like shit. Ever since I got my smell back, I forgot what like day long, like sweaty balls smell like. Bad first impression. You know what I'm talking about? What you say? I said ever since I got my smell back, like I forgot what like day

long like wear your clothes all day and then maybe run around and then at night you take it off and then it smells like smelly balls i forgot what that smelled like no it's not good no it's not it's not it's concerning because if you're just playing if you're streaming all night then i'm concerned yeah if you're playing soccer and shit all day then fuck yeah it's what balls but usually i see you just you're just chilling streaming are you sweating balls over there you wait you're forcing he does sweat yeah specifically there too yeah specifically my under the balls no you're You're trolling. No, just your balls.

No, not my balls. Like, do you have a place where you sweat more than every other place? Some people start. Like, I never sweat from my head. I don't get much of my back. I get armpits, face. I get a lot of the face. See, I don't get much on the face.

The frontal area. I don't get anything. My balls and ass, they don't sweat. That's where it starts for me. That's so weird. It sucks. Like, if I'm just sitting here and not. It sucks.

Mine starts up top because on. Yours goes bottom and just like elevator's up top? Just bottom and then just... The drops are like just going upwards? I'm like, what? It's reverse. It's a steam. It really sucks.

Anyway, I don't know how we got there. Oh, so I was saying... Because I was saying... That's how he smells like shit. That's how we fucking got there. He doesn't smell like shit. It doesn't smell like shit. It smells like mold.

No, yeah. No, well, I don't know. There doesn't work for it. You know what I forget? There was a word I had it before. I forget it. Musty. Musty.

It's... Musty is the perfect word. How about... My shirt just sat in the washer too long. That's what it. smells like. What are you looking for? The word that you were looking for? Yeah, it's just such a faded search. Stagnet for how I fucking stink. You smell like stagnant water Under a bridge that's been there for like two days. He has a hole in his fucking

Don't worry about me kid, you smell like shit. You're lucky we're sitting down. Look at this fucking faded ass search. What's the word to describe washing your clothes and doesn't dry right away? I didn't even make sense. I don't even know what I just have. Not even Google could come up. It just shows a picture of me. Sour? Sour? Sour? No, nothing came up and just came a bunch of alternate like things because it was like just bring that to that's a bit growing up we always say you're close you that close smell sour that's what we'd say so that's not a bad word to describe it does smell sour you do smell I mean not like shit listen it's the first was the next time yeah messy anyway

before we move out to messy because I need to know because you obviously keep up with this but don't watch season two but definitely watch season three of true detective because it's fucking amazing not as good as the first one because the first one sits on a pedestal so high up that I don't even want to touch it Right? The only thing that touches that show up there is obviously Game of Thrones and Succession. Have you seen Succession yet? Oh my fucking God. I'm so jealous. All right. Messy. Is he leaving or do you think he's like what? It is mold. All right. You're welcome. So is he leaving or do you think he's pressuring the EU to sort of like, I don't know. What's happening? I've read three different things. Apparently he's out of his contract and like he's a free agent and there and Barcelona's said that, you know, they've said their farewells to him. But what people are thinking is that Barcelona doesn't have,

apparently, I don't know this for a fact, but La Liga has very tight, which is the league he played in Barcelona's end, has very tight salary caps. So they're trying to basically bully them into raising the salary cap by saying, hey, Messi's leaving. Yeah.

And the amount of people that watch, there's a noticeable decline from when Ronaldo left. When he left Realman. So now if messy leaves as well Like that's a huge hit for The league and so they're trying to just I guess I think it's like a like a Hail Mary It's just like what do you

Sex sounds familiar I was gonna say this I'm saying What? Formal's leaving League so you're gonna bump that salary cap you're saying I got you and Seth are the Messy and formal or mess Oh Oh messy Oh I saw that actually on Twitter Congrats

You know what I'm laughing Whatever you want to take it For you brother Earlier earlier Good luck out there Earlier today in the podcast Like if you go back to like I don't know Minute

I don't know what the minute But early on I was like this When you guys were you two were talking I was like this So when you brought it up I was like Really? I was just like making it seem that

It is happening Do you all get whenever you go on YouTube Do you get YouTube shorts Like random ass videos That are recommended to you Like in a site What I get is Logan Paul boxing type

YouTube shorts so unbelievably for you what that's you recommended yeah apparently I don't really look at YouTube shorts that's what'll pop up it's like a two it's like it's like a

10 second clip of like a sideman video and then it and it's just somebody kicks the ball and then it's over but I saw one that was like messy finally speaks English for the first time and it had like a billion views or whatever and it was like four seconds long

He said, hello. And so I clicked it and it's him at the, they're at the coin toss and he goes, heads. Was it heads? Just perfect. Was it heads? Oh, that's seen if it is and that's G. Fuck. It was like something like, it was like something so like, I was like, why does this have that many views?

And the comments were just like, I can't believe you did. Like obviously. So sick. Overexaggerating it. Fucking wild. All right. So I'm glad that. The fucking wild.

So to cover the rest of the sports, Luca Donchick here from Dallas, who just got defeated for the first time in the Olympics by someone else. Well, that was his... Wait, really? I thought that was his first Olympics. No, no, but he was on a run.

He was winning. Yeah, yeah. He finally went up. So Luca Donchick just got a $200 million contract, a five-year, $200 million contract from the Mavs. That's bigger than... The biggest in Mavs history, This dude, $200 million a year.

You're doing the math? I mean, that's immediate. How much is that a year? That's just immediately like a, you thought that was good? You thought that was good? Yeah. Anyway, so congrats to him. And congrats to Mark Cuban for that.

That's a good one. Shout out Donnie Nelson, who's the guy that picked up Luca Donchick very early on. And, you know, he's no longer with the Mavs. So, Donnie, I hope that you're well and you're out there. And I know you don't watch this. So I don't know the fuck I'm talking to you. Maniac. Maniac farting in front of beep, beep,

okay? And beep beep, let's just say that there was an executive from a very... Yeah, I don't know who that is. Why are you saying his name? Can you not say it? I don't know.

Brandon Snow. Brandon Snow came to visit. Brandon Snow is like the head of everything at Call of Duty. Well, not... So like, e-sports. Right? He's like the man. He reports to Bobby Codick.

Bobby Codick is the man upstairs. Oh, you're thinking of John Snow. No, you are. Why? Why? I don't... Brandon Snow is the guy's name. Anyway.

Oh, never mind. I was thinking John Snow. You're thinking of Brandon Stark. No, I'm not. I'm thinking of John Snow. Okay. Now I'm thinking of Brandon Stark and the rest of the Stark's. So many of them.

Why they die the way they do? Why they die the way they did? His fucking Ari is the only one that survived. Oh, no. And what's his name? Bron. Anyway, that aside So this dude who's like

I'm like a fucking super important person Don't know why this is a topic by the way Right? How does he know? How does anyone know? You tell the story? No. Everyone was just around. Okay. So Nick And it was pretty loud. Nick is fucking streaming. This is the second time Nick has done this. Nick is streaming and me and this dude I'm giving the guy the tour of the of the hex quarters right where Optic Chicago plays. I saw him I think. Yeah you did. Yeah, yeah. Well you weren't screaming. You were playing baller.

When I was screaming. Hard, which was super cool for him to see Coming from fucking Call of Duty So this dude is like a fucking mega important person in Activision. I told Nick's like yo mute your mic or close this. I don't know the privacy issues that they have to go through

and all that shit so He was like, yo turn off your webcam. I'm like I'm ending my stream anyways. So he gets up and then I give him a tour over here I'm like the 70 years of hard work all the trophies, collectibles, blah blah and then we walk up and then Nick has his hand like on his dick right through his sweatpants

I don't remember that and I'm like yo get your fucking hand as he's wait listen as he's coming in I'm like yo get your fucking hands

out of your drops the loudest fucking fart page is standing right there Josefo Matt and Roger is he looking at you in the eye while he's farting

yes what the weird I didn't know the guy exactly exactly and I've made it a point not to hold my farts in lately

because it hurts my tummy yeah I'm so fucking mad that you just said that The way that you said that I'm so pissed off of you right now And those curtains are right there And hex and him like walk past the curtains I feel it brewing Yeah, I'm like I gotta let this go

Like I don't There's a certain way you can let it go Well Like if I'm screaming I'm not just like Yeah one shot back blue and just ripping ass And hoping like the content guys have gone home Like because they can hear it I'm dealing with it

Oh I don't care if they can fucking hear it No you don't care how loud you make it You can make like a sign on the problem You can't really control it. Dude, I'll fart in front of all my boys. Yeah. I wouldn't fart in front of fucking Brandon Snow. I just met the dude in person.

This guy. And I hope, and I'm not talking shit. I'm not fart in front of page. I wouldn't fart in front of Brennan Snow. And look, I'll tell you one thing. I'll tell you one thing. I'm not talking to shit here. I'm like jealous to, I'm jealous of you and how free you are.

I'm free in ways, I guess. That's one of the ways, I guess. You just took it the wrong way. He's trapped by his tummy. And therefore, he has to really. or else he is trapped by his stomach. It's not free at all. His stomach.

Do you remember when he did it when we had the intro to the brisk mate? No. So they're literally the entire, the, all of the bristmante like executives are there. Pepsi executive. Pepsi. Pepsi. Go on. We're talking multi-millionaires. Well, I don't know about that. And they're giving us the rundown of the drink.

The Pepsi run down. The Pepsi rundown of the Pepsi drink. Hell yeah Why am I doing this? I'm with you Well no I'm just saying To show the importance Keep going

A sponsor that pays to pay you So then they're like They have it all set up They have the slideshow and everything And then everybody just clears And then Nick's like What? I kind of remember that

Bro and it stunk so bad You were just like Calm out of You were like Are you serious Like I wonder if Would you have done the same thing This is Johanna Farris

Yes He was also like a mega important person I don't really know that is. Another mega important person. He would. The only, yeah. Who wouldn't you do that in front of? Rappers.

Drake. Okay, I respect that. So I want to give a shout out to the production team for putting that in there. Tommy hurting just like so gassy. Just like, nice to meet you. He's turning redder and shit. I just look at all like,

you good? Just not yourself at all? What's up? What's up, Drake? I love That's fucking hilarious, dog I was gonna name a song, but I don't know any. Slums, Zoo, driving, come back.

So I don't know, I don't remember Zoo, but actually, it sucks. I can already tell us sucks. I don't remember Zoo or Drive in. Are those maps? I don't know what that is. I don't like it. It's like, here, here's the thing.

Slums is back, but it's kind of like, a slap in the face. Well, go on. Two weeks before champs, you put a hard point map in that is the best, like one of the best. By the way, the sponsor perfect. Yeah, good luck. You can't play with it. Yeah. You just put a hard point map in that's just incredible. Like what, like, first of all, like standoff. It's like, how long have they been holding on to this? Look at this stuff. He's like, fuck, it wasn't recording. hit the cap on the lens he's like shit he's not something

like an hour no that's but they're just adding it in for pubs yeah they're adding it into the next dLC drop it's got to be

to remake if they're like they're just throwing it in right now you know like they were able just be like oh they love the fucking remakes

I wonder if they're like this is a good map we need to keep this for one of our releases and they like kind of spacing shit out yeah but can you not

is nobody there thinking about the fucking millions millions of dollar league, like competitive league that they have? No one's like, hey so you know you have slums

coming up in five months. Why don't we just do that next month because these guys are still playing maps that they shouldn't be playing. They're still playing. See, that's why when the Activision guy comes in here just look at them. That's why they're okay. Well, now we know. Brandon, if you're

watching, just now you know. That's cool. I mean, again, I love slums. Yeah, you were talking about it. Is that what you were talking about it? Yeah, I love Slums. It's one of my favorite maps and it's it's like especially in Black Ups 4 like whenever TST first started we were hitting a bunch of clips on slums and so like always

It's like an awesome awesome fucking capture the flag map. I like Capture a Flag more than control. I don't like control period person person I just don't like it I don't know it has it has his moments yeah just like anything else I guess just like anything else in life

yeah I just don't I just don't know why they're like, are you ordering food? What you're doing over there? Yes. Well, let's go get sushi. Irresponsible. Okay, fine. Given the circumstances.

Oh, yeah. All right. So, he's talking about COVID, guys, and the state that we're in. Look, it's been an ongoing thing with Activision where they, I mean, fuck it, man. For the last 10 years, how many times have they done an update the day of a tournament? Right? Like, it's, it's, there's so much. They're trolls.

They're trolls. Yeah. You think they're doing it on purpose? They have to be here. Like, yeah, you guys get tweeted out a bunch like this last week? Yeah, just fuck these kids. Yeah, see that shit.

They're jamming you? Just showing the reply. Look at this. They're so pissed. Look at the idea is. Watch this. I like it. Bro, I bet you this exactly.

I bet you that that's how it was in Black Ops 1 when they fucked with the snipers. They do. The fucking nerd JD 2020 was fucking back there just who hated snipers. Right. It was like a developer that hated snipers. He wasn't a developer. He was some fucking community manager guy.

Oh. And it wasn't until he came at me publicly, like recently that I'm like, all right, fine. You were the fucking asshole that said that Optic was nothing without Call of Duty. You're the reason that we played Minecraft and we blew up. You're the reason that we started doing fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we run back. Guess what? Now we're carrying the fucking league.

What? Oh, shit. Anyway, so that guy, he was a guy that's like, quick scope and slug. not sniping. Yeah. I'm like fucking video game sniping it's not fucking sniping

fucking moron. I'm jumping corners and shit. Like what? Yeah. Slide canceling? Like imagine? You're flying

out of fucking helicopters popping your shoe cutting it off shooting and then popping it back again. I'm fucking tucking it in my backpack and pistilling this dude for a second.

Yeah. Yeah. That's not parachuting. That's not real parachuting. someone down in real life like you're doing war zone sometimes being toxic like you both pulling your shoots and odd stop it yeah you're like imagine that real life yeah like why are you still doing it stop this you still get shot three times and you're still alive just get him you're like what the fuck dude this is so trolly anyway i'm from it'll change it'll change i think

i think going into season three of the call duty league i think we're going to see a lot of changes it's going to benefit everybody uh especially players okay i think what i'm One thing that I think I said it kind of like breathed life into the Call of Duty this past event. And I think I think we're at a point where like people are kind of just like, meh, about BRs. That's what it seems like. I mean, obviously BRs are still at the top. I think you're right. But I think eventually arena shooters will come back.

I think you're right. I think they'll, I don't know if they'll be top dog, but as far as FPS is concerned, I think they can get back up there with with BRs. like on the same playing field. And I think with the next Call of Duty, with it being combined with Warzone, and hopefully it's a good cod with a good ranking system, and then Halo Infinite comes out as well,

it might be this year that it happens. I pray. I pray, yeah, I pray. I do feel like BR hype is dying now. I pray. You do? You do? I know when it first came out,

it felt like a really cool idea. It was like a rush. Really cool idea. It was like, holy shit. I feel like I'm in the hunger games. Yeah, amazing. That was this one I'm going to say.

Love it. We're on the hunger games time. So everyone kind of like fuck with it. And they have like, it's already like an idea of a basis of what it's going to be like. It's like hungry games. You're like, oh, okay.

That's kind of lit. Yeah. You loot and shit and like you can play however you want. And it's like when you win, you feel like you fucking won. Yeah. You're like, the fuck off me.

H1 Z1. You just hit for 10 minutes. I just remember that like third game I had on H1Z1 where I actually got like two kills. I'm nervous for you. I'm nervous for you. And then the proximity chat as well, like in that. Shit was just so fun. I love it.

Now I feel like it's been milked so hard, dude. I think there's been so many BRs. It just seems like it's, it seems like the rush that you had of like playing and then like dying and you were over like that was the end of the game. Like now that's too boring when as that used to be the rush. The Goulog was a good revive like a switch up. Yeah. Like a real cool like like like a really good idea. Yeah.

Yeah. What's not cool. What's not cool is the. ability to have an anti-cheat. It's gotten so bad that there's a war zone cheat provider response to Raven Software promoting their hacks. Like, they don't give a fuck.

The hackers are clumping them? Click on that, Matt's about to click on it. We're going to go see it right here. And essentially, as you see it on the screen right now, or if you're listening on this, I'm going to read it for you. Modern, okay, yeah, click on the image. Okay, so Raven Software tweets out. We are aware of an issue, the CX-9

Modern Warfare where the unlock challenge and level are not tracking. We are actively investigating and have updated the war zone Trello to reflect this. Engineowning.com. Sorry to hear this. In case you still want to use, use it, our unlock all feature unlocks. Okay. Yeah. So they don't give a fuck, right?

Like, they're out there. And I was just talking about this on the podcast that I did with swag. You guys can check it out. I was on my channel. But we're talking about how Nick Merck's has given up on it completely. And then, you know, obviously Tim the Tapman, who sort of runs in the same circles. It's also like, you know,

like everybody's sick of this shit, right? And my question to swag was like, I'm like, dude, what do you think, or how do you think Fortnite feels or like feels right now and felt when everybody started leaving Fortnite to go to play to war zone? I know. It's probably felt just like that.

Yeah. So I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, you know, if you're call of duty and we finally have those sort of eyeballs, right, like the external eyeballs from influencers like that. It's insane how quickly we took it for granted. It's the biggest, right? It's the biggest, right? Or like, it's the biggest game. Yeah.

It's just insane that we went that many years playing Call of Duty and then Modern Warfare dropped and all of a sudden you, there's crossplay. And so you're seeing Shroud play Call of Duty. And I just remember being mind-blown. Yeah. Same. That Shroud was playing gunfight tournaments against methods. You know what I mean?

Like it was mind-blown. Yeah, I played in one of those. I was with Doc and I was mind-blown. Yeah. It was like, is this actually Shroud? Like, that's fucking Shrub. And the fact you're playing with Doc and Doc's playing on it. I know.

Like that's so fun. That was just mind-blowing. Yeah, I played Alien Shotsie. And I was like, what the fuck? I just played shroud and his girl. Yeah. I was like, what? This is the next round?

But it's just crazy that that. It's crazy how quickly we took it for granted. That's such a good way to put it. Like, within a year, now all of a sudden, it's just the norm. Like, it's still not, it's still not the norm. We can very easily go back to what it was where nobody. No one cared. And no care.

Except for us. How big it could be if there was no cheaters. Right. Like, I feel like it's driven. away so many. It's just a sour taste in everyone's mouth about the cheaters. Like, there's no one that's like, I kind of fuck with the cheater. I don't like winning every fucking game. I'm boring.

I'm glad you put it that way because I didn't when I'll sign the conversation with him. I'm like, it does feel like they took it for granted. They made so much fucking money that you don't care that fucking big personalities that we need in this space to continue to grow and expose the fucking game that we've been trying to expect for social time. You're not going to give a shit when the biggest fucking, the face of war zone in Nick Merck's fucking leaves. That's when I want to see them put, do something special, just for Nick Merks, like, publicly.

Yeah. To be like, yeah, they fucking care. Like, look, I know that that's super biased and, like, super just because Nick Merks, but, like, I'm happy they did something. Yeah. You know, like, if he complained about one specific thing and they instantly changed it. Yeah. And we hear you, dog.

Yeah. And the thing is this, if they did that change and they say, you know what? Nick Merks is leaving. We have to make all the changes. And fucking fans around the world was like, oh, because Nick Merks is leaving. No, fuck, who cares? Yeah. Like, let's get what we need to fucking get to and why they fucking did it.

But the fact that there are. Allowing big personalities like this to not only shit talk the game, but not even attempt to reach out and be like, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, chill, chill, chill, chill, we're good, we're good. Something's coming down the pipeline. You're going to be fucking good. They're not talking to anyone because I see every war zone streamer shitting on war zone at least like twice a day. Yeah. Like, just about something. About hacking.

I'm like, Dan, that new update looks fucking garbage. Like, well. Yeah. It's such a fucking shame because we've worked for fucking decades trying to get this sort of exposure, an organic exposure. an organic exposure. What was the game before MW? Oh, it was Black Ops 4. That was pretty fun.

So you got to think, who were the most popular Black Ops 4 streamers besides Manseff? Teep. Teep. So you go from. Bobby Poppe? Bobby Maven Merck to now Nick Merck's swag. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like that's how much of a change is. Like echelon. It's like, it's like, yeah. It's like I felt watching Fortnite. I'd be like, click Fortnite and it's like, fucking 180,000 viewers. And I'm like, oh, who would watch. You know what it is?

I'm going to tell you what it is. I'm going to tell you what it is. Activision is like, dude, they're playing our game for free because they like it. No, like, we don't have to pay them. So fucking AIDS. We should fucking like not fix what the fuck. We should make them not like our game.

Where before they spent so much money in paying fucking influencers to promote a fucking game the same way that all of these other people are paying people to play their game. Here we have the biggest fucking personalities and they're doing it for free because you have a good fucking game. Yeah, they still like it. Yeah, they're on thin ice, but they're still playing it every day. Yeah, yeah.

And you guys aren't giving them shit. Yeah. Not even like that. That's the one thing about Activision is they're so closed off. Yeah. Like it's not like we hear you. Here's what we can do.

Here's what we can't do. It's never that. It's never. It's just a mystery. It's always just like, okay, so what are they doing? And then you hear from someone that they're, the way they're figuring it out

is they're suing the cheat companies. It's like, that's just you getting more money from the cheat companies by suing them. But when that cheat company is gone, there's going to be a hundred more of them that are providing cheats because people are always going to buy hacks.

I don't know. Nerds. Dude, do you know how I view Activision in my head? Because I don't really have many connections there at all. I picture like, it's like a boardroom and I open the doors and it's like three dudes, right? And they're just standing right in front of me, but they're all like 80 feet tall.

And I can see like their pants and they have like really nice pants on but then they're just turning to like shadowy figures towards the top part. I can't see their faces and they're just like, hello. It's like, what do you need? Like, you know what I'm saying?

It's fucking brought to you by Pine Park. Brought to you that segment was brought to you by Pine Park. Yeah, it's crazy. Coming to a dispensary near you. Yeah, September. I don't know. I think we let's end it with one of the questions from people. But man, we got to get our shit together, man.

And look, we can't be the only ones that are fighting for Call of Duty just because we love it. You own the fucking game. Fucking step the fuck up. Keep the personalities here. God damn it, they're playing your game because they like it. And you're not going to fucking remove or add on something to make their experience better. This dude fucking drops. And on the first drop, somebody fucking guns them.

And he's like, you know what? Like Activision, I'm rich too. Maybe not that rich. But I'm rich enough to where I don't need to play this fucking game. I'm going to go play and have fun because I don't need this to fucking. I'm rich. You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck me, man.

Now they're going to go back. So like, you know what? They're playing it for free. Let's pay them. Because now what's going to happen is that Nick and all these guys are going to be like, we're not playing that shit. And they're going, we'll pay you. All right, yeah, I'll play.

I'll play. How many cod partners do you see in the beginning of the year? God damn. I saw everyone with every streamer that I've ever met in the gaming community was on cod for a week. Yeah. And they were streaming it every day. And they were making it sure that the drops were enabled in their cod partner. And they're still and they're still caught partners and they're still playing the same game.

But mostly because they like it, not because they got paid in the beginning of the fucking launch. Okay. Haircuts only says, what has been your most humbling experience through life and how did it change you? tournament loss, got your ass beat, best, you got your ass best, et cetera, et cetera. Anything humbling, Nick? What? He said anything humbling, Nick? Or you feel?

That's humbling experience. Sorry about that, Roger. Humbling, uh. I mean, probably, of course, just being fucking cracked out. Going to rehab. Oh, yeah. Probably that. We agreed that we're going to call it the hub.

We said that we're going to call it the hab. We said that we're going to call it the hab or the HAB. Yep. Yeah. Probably the hab. Being down bad, broke, fucking skinny, barely had food. Like, you know. And now?

That was humbling. And now? Now I'm a little bigger basically doing the same stuff. Yeah. It's not cracked. And it's okay, I guess. But yeah, now that was humbly. Matt, you have a little.

any humbling experiences? I have a shit time, I think. There's not one that pops in my head, but there's been times where I'm like, let me guess, leaving optic. Oh, sure, we can throw that in there too. That sucks. I thought that was going to go way differently. I was like, fucking don't need those fuckers.

You later, I'm like, holy shit. It's like they're vibing over there and having fun. I don't think I, I mean, I'm sure I have some, but I mean, I don't know. You? I don't know about humbling. I mean, I've gone through shit, but I don't think it's like, I was never like, Oh, my.

I got one. Okay. I'll say the Vegas thing. Humbled me up. What Vegas thing? Ship club? Yeah. That thing.

Bro, if you, listen, if you go to a script club, a strip club and you don't get humbled, you didn't go to the right strip club. Go on. Tell them, sorry. So it was like my first. It was like my first good, it was like, it was like my first good month on Twitch. I got like three K subs. And I was like, holy shit.

Like, I'm fucking rich. Holy shit. I'm rich. And then we went to the Vegas event, the one that you guys won. Oh, wait, wait, no, you were on the team. Sorry. I wasn't on the team. I got three O'D biotic.

He got humbled. He got humbled there. Got humbled bad. Yeah, that sucks. All right. So, go on. So, yeah, I went to the strip club. He was single in Vegas.

Oh, shit. In Vegas. I went with a couple people, and I'm not going to name names. But it's going to make me understand the scenario so much different. And now the tall figures, I don't know their, faces and they're walking around the trip club with you. You know what? Brought to you by Pine Park.

I don't know who you're saying. Tell me. And so I just go on. So yeah, I just got really, really drunk and then they, uh, yeah, they, uh, I woke up in the, uh, in the bushes in the bush. You woke up in the hospital. Wait, what? I woke up in the hospital. You were found in the bushes.

Found in the bushes. What? They called Blank and George because I was like, I was like, don't even worry about it. I'm good. Like, I'm just going to go like, like, I'm just going to go like, hang out with a couple friends. They ended up not being that. So then I woke up in the hospital and Blake told me later that the hotel guy called

the room. It was like, hey, is Robert, does he stay here? And Blake was like, yeah. He was like, well, he was found in the bushes this morning. And so we sent him to the hospital. So you got to go pick him up from the emergency room. That'd be a scary phone call. Then I checked, yeah, no.

Then I checked my phone or I checked my bank account on the Uber ride home. and I had spent, I don't even know how, I'd spend like $6,200 or something like that. You got finessed. At the strip club. $60, $600? Oh, yeah, $6,200. What?

Are you saying $62? Yeah, $6,200? $6,200. Okay. Yeah, $6,200. Stop it. No, I just, I didn't know what he was, I thought he was.

Now you're fucking with my head, dude. Now I don't even know if I said it right. $6,200. Okay. Something like that. The way you said it, I thought you were ashamed to say you spent $6,200. I was. This is the first time I'd ever.

This is my first good month. What happened? $60 to $600. I just said it was like $75. It's pretty humbling. That's a humbling experience. How? What did it teach you?

To know that just because I have some subs on Twitch that it's going to all. go away pretty soon. I'm sure that the subs that donated to that were super happy that's how you spent it. That's how my shit if I subbed someone

like that's better be how they spend it. You don't pay the fucking electric bill no no no go get some booty in your face. No. Pink guy. Not worth.

You even remember it? That had to be a lot of booty. The last thing I remember for $6,200. Literally the last thing I remember was calling my bank because they got like a security guard came in

and was like hey your card like won't go through. got to call your bank and he already had my bank on the phone. And he put the, he put the phone up to my face. And the lady was like, hey. And I was like, yeah, good. I'm good to spend money.

Like I'm good. She was like, okay. So she's like, I'm going to clear it. I was like, okay. So then the bottles came. And I'm like in a daze at this point. And I, the last thing I remember is they put the,

they put liquor in the cup. And I was like, the seat. They who? the strippers. They put they put the glass on my on my lips

and they tilted the glass back. They waterboarded you with liquor, liquor boarded you. Yeah, had to drink it all. So everyone, because everyone was like,

oh, you got drunk, for sure, you got drunk. And I was like, I mean, you can't bitch out. No.

You got to just drink as much of that fucking glass as you as you can. You're in a strip club. Until you throw up. You know what I mean, you're in a strip club by yourself in Vegas. I'm,

I've never. By yourself. That's what I'm saying. At that point, everyone abandoned me. That's what I'm saying. Those people I came with. You were whiling out then.

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