OpTic Podcast - FORMAL RETURNS TO PRO TEAM | The OpTic Podast Ep. 43

Episode Date: October 3, 2021

This week HECZ, Scump, FormaL, and Hitch sat down to talk about Twitch Boosting, FormaL's return to professional gaming, and the worst movies they've ever seen.  Visit http://brooklinen.com and use promo code OPTIC to get $20 off with a minimum purchase of $100! Go to http://purple.com/optic and use promo code optic to get 10% off any order of $200 or more! 00:00 Twitch Boosting  07:00 Twitch Subs to Viewers 10:35 Michael Jordan $3000 Used Underwear  13:50 Pokemon creator wave and NFT’s  19:30 Single Elim Valorant Tourney 23:20 Halo Event, FormaL Playing Infinite  32:30 Seth getting hacked on my a school teacher  37:50 Brooklinen ADS 41:00 Purple Mattress ADS 43:20 Going to Halo Infinite $250k Event  44:00 Intro/FormaL playing Vanguard  47:00 The worst movie ever made  51:10 MFAM BBQ  54:00 Dr Disrespect making his own gaming Studio 57:45 Investments HECZ missed out on  Check out the OpTic Podcast here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG FORMAL RETURNS TO PRO TEAM | The OpTic Podast Ep. 43 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you going to touch Vanguard when it comes out? Yeah, I have to for Warzone, right? Yeah. Oh, true. Yeah. Probably. Why not, right? I'm going to leave you in the dust.

As you're sitting there screaming. Hating life. I'll be right over there. He's threatened. He's threatened. He is like, look at the hate to touch. How many times do you think he's going to be like, you never played warsome with me? Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode number 413.

Today's Palabra del dia is 143. Seth, can you tell us what that means? 43. Very good.

This episode is brought to you at Brooklyn and Purple Mattress and we'll tell you a little bit more about them later on

in the podcast. Can somebody fill me in on this Twitch boosting stuff that we're about to talk about? I don't know much about it but I've heard

that you can pay to boost your stream? It's legal view bud. Is it? Is that really what it is? Pretty sure you pay or you or your community can pay to boost your stream higher up in like the directory, I think.

Yeah, but how do you do that? So like if you're... Ah. Yeah, so it's like the used bits. Guys, this is nothing wrong with this in my opinion. Look, communities can try to help their creators as much as they can. People advertise billions of dollars on a daily basis to boost their position in the space, whether it's Pepsi, whether it's Coke.

like they are all spending money to do exactly this. So, I say, well, where? It just says that. Just L. Look, at the end of the day, whatever gets you,

it's promotion. It's a promotion. Yeah, but it's paid to win. People are like, hey, who know how many like Godlike creators that are just super low key? Yeah.

There could be some Godlike creators. That's what I was saying. It's not like, it's not like, like there are a lot of creators out there that have, I mean, we're one of them,

that have a shit. ton of subs in comparison to viewership. And it's like that's basically what this is. It's not, this isn't guaranteeing that you're going to become, if you're going to have a hundred subs or you're 100 viewers at a time and then you boost your stream that all of a sudden

now you're going to average 3,000 viewers. It's not realistic. Like people were going to watch you, if people find you through this method and they enjoy your stream and stick around, I feel like there's nothing really wrong with that. I agree. I agree. Especially because like I often think that people

see other people succeeding as them becoming less successful when that's not the case. Right, I agree. I agree with that. I agree. Remember when the girls were like writing names on the board and they had their like butts out and then like,

no. You know what I'm saying? Like at the beginning of Twitch. You know what I'm saying? The beginning of Twitch. Like, oh yeah, like they'd have the board. Like the first time and all, yeah, yeah. And then like Ninja made that video where he was like

putting his butt out and he was like, what? You know what I'm talking about? But I remember, Ninja made a video is like just so you know I've seen a bunch people get mad at girls that are doing this But like if they don't do this on Twitch those viewers aren't going to you So like why do you why are you mad? Yeah, that's a good point yeah and it's like I feel like this is kind of the same thing but obviously less Yeah, I look I think I think that more ways to help this thing grow Like I'm cool with it more innovation at least like let it go if it doesn't work then at least we tried it right at least we get to say that we tried everything

There's going to be an innovation that comes down the line. Some of it's going to work. Some of it's not experimenting along the way. I don't see anything wrong with that. And we haven't seen yet. This is only a concept. So we have to actually see how it plays out when it's released. I mean,

you can't judge it just looking at it being like, well, that sucks or that's great because it's like we don't even know what it is. This could be Godlike. This could be an amazing thing. This could be a horrible thing. I'm telling you right now there's going to be like three case studies that succeed because of that. It's all about community.

No. you said that and you just fucking knocked my eye on the head. I hate that feeling. It's all about... You got it. I don't even know what I was going to say now. Just let it go. Dude, you know, you know, people have been saying that they think that I'm baked on every podcast?

You don't smoke. I know, I don't smoke at all. Coming from Mr. Pine Park himself. When was the last time that you had a sick of weed? It had to have been like five years ago? Years. Years. You heard he pukept?

He puke? He had to have puke. Every time someone asked me, I'll like, I'll throw up. All right. How are they going to try to peer pressure? I'm like, I'll throw up. They don't want to deal with that. I don't want to deal with that.

What I'm talking about that. Any type of anyone peer pressure for you, for anything, like, I will shit my pants if you do that. I'll do that. It works every time. It works every time. The thing is, is like, there's going to be battles that happen. And then there's going to be a ninja moment where ninja's like, you know what? I like this streamer.

I'm going to quote $100,000 towards him being on the top. And I want creators going to be at the top of the record. recommended for a whole week or a whole month and this kid's gonna fucking go off well dude girl whoever that's the one thing with with twitch is that ever since that amazon thing which was i mean like a long time ago now they've increasingly done cooler and cooler like innovative shit like they're not just like sitting there trying yeah they're trying to do cool new things yeah i think i think that what's going to happen is that the more they innovate the and look i i'm a firm

believer that YouTube will win in the end, how it takes 10, whatever, if it takes 10 years or whatever, I do think that more and more innovation from, hey, look at that. More and more innovation coming from Twitch like this is going to continue to keep them a little bit further ahead. Remember, like, look at what gifting did for creators, man. Dude, it changed Twitch forever. Yeah. It's not just Twitch, because YouTube's about to start doing that too, right? So it changed it for a, so it took somebody who was like barely scraping by a dude that was probably like man if I could just get two more subs

like I could quit my my job and focus on this full time they turned it on and those 2,000 subs or 1,000 subs turned into 2,000 immediately now he was able to quit his job and now he was able to concentrate for time. 1,000 subs back in

the day like back it was thinking back in the day it was like 2017 all tier ones all tier ones bro and not even Twitch Prime wasn't even out yet. Which Prime wasn't even thing. Dude, a thousand subs were like that I was like, dude, I'll never get a thousand. Like a thousand subs, that's insane.

Yeah. Yeah. And then Twitch Prime came out and it's like, oh shit. Now I have instead of, I had 300 subs all the time at the Optic House. And then Twitch Prime came out and it's like, holy shit. Now I have 550. I'm like, damn, I'm fucking loaded. Yeah.

And then like a gifting subs came out. And it was just, it just changed every other. Yeah. For the good. I mean, you look at people, just, you, like, you can look at people's viewers now as a metric, but, like, people also look at subs. Like, I mean, just obviously. Yeah.

And now you have, you see people with, like, a thousand viewers, like, repoles, for instance, plays war zones. Nuts. He's like 30,000 subs. 32,000 subs. He averages, he averages a thousand viewers. He, 32,000 subs. He's the guy that slaps his ass.

His name's Hector, too. Oh, shout out my brother, Hector. Yeah. What? Well, but like just Instances like that. I have people to slap my ass. He's probably 32,000.

I have a person. I said people. He's probably top 20 on Twitch. Yeah, yeah. Because of the gifting sub. He's like top 15, I think. But so yeah, we're going around in circle. Well, I'm happy for, I'm happy for my to call you.

This could be just as cool as gifting subs. We just don't know. Yeah, shout on him. He's got to see how plays out. I'm going to go check him out now, especially because his name is Ector. If his last name's Rodriguez, we'll have a fucking problem. You never seen him?

No, I don't. He streams nights. You get to sleep at 9. I wake up to text from Seth at like 1130. And I'm like, I don't know he's not expecting me to reply. Average viewer is a thousand. Current active subs 31 and he averages 1,500. Wait, what does it say?

No, he averages 1,084. It's crazy. Hey, repulse, bro, so happy for you. Keep going, dude. Holy shit. Yo, that's just unloaded ass shit. Good for him. That reminds me.

That TSTMW year was a good year, man. Yeah. Well, what was the highest you got to 15? Uh, 18.5, 18.5 thousand. Like 20,000, so. Oh, bro, the, what year blackout? I remember looking at my own shit on, like, the Twitch tracker back then. And like, I was, like, in, like, the top 15.

I looked at everyone else's, like, my gifted subs were like 95%. Yeah. I see like Tim and it was like, like, gifts and subs, 5%. Yeah. It's all from the ratio? Yeah. And I was like, I'll take it. I'll take it.

We had like a... Timothy. We had like a 50... One night we had like a 5500 sub train. And we just sat there after the call. And then somebody linked us like the tracker that shows like all the subs. And we had just passed Dr. Lupo. I was like, what the fuck is going on?

Jesus. Because like, Lupo, I mean, that was like... Mm-hmm. $5.500 and one night? How long was the stream? How long was the stream? I mean, it was like a seven-hour stream. Seventy-two-hour stream.

Yeah. I was like... If you're on a train. you're on a train. If you're on a train like that. That's a fucking train. 5,500 and seven hours? It's almost averaging a thousand an hour. Bro, I was, we were getting, that's kind of nuts.

That's pretty nuts. So you're getting like, nuts. I mean, at that point, you're getting like 20 gifts, 20 gifts. Yeah, like constant. And then it'll stop for like three minutes and then a hundred bomb will drop. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah.

And then like another hundred bomb, you're like, dude. That's a crazy train. And that goes on for five, seven hours. We got to like, in that night, we got to a thousand sub train in like five minutes. It was like seven. It was destined. It was like 700. 100 bombs like is destined.

And those moments, you're just like, you don't know what's going. You don't know what to say. What the fuck is going on. After you go on like a train like that, like it's like hard to thank people. It's like dude. Yeah, like I don't even know what.

Like I've thanked you six times already because you've already dropped 620 bombs. Like I don't know what else to say. Like, do you want something? Do you want to, you know, do you want to sign jersey? You want something? People are wild, bro.

Yeah. I just throw on T-Paint and start twirking. That's, yeah. I think when the documentary on this, on this period of time, gets done like the hero it will always be the fan man like they're they're the ones that that are paying for that sort of entertainment for sure because i i think about i put myself in the position of uh of of like a fan right like if what is michael jordan's worn underwear sell for

three cows i can't wait why you call me out like that man like i told you i didn't want to talk about that shit i was good you buy him about it no sad are they like it's up there it's up there no man can you can you can you find a picture right now right now Find a picture of what it is. I'm going to buy those same underwear. Okay, those. No,

shot. I'm going to buy those. That's gross. Who the fuck bought those, dude? Jordan, all right, I'm going to buy those and I'm going to frame them. Dude.

That's crazy. There's no way they're washed, right? Just ripping open the box. Is there any male, is there any male athlete you would buy their underwear? No. Michael Phelps? Just immediately.

No, he went Michael Jordan. He just thought of another Michael in the space. I don't know. Michael Phelts. He's not a Michael, though. Michael Tyson? What do you mean? Mike, but he's Mike Tyson.

Mike Jordan? Even if it was like Mike. Michael Jordan. Even if it was like a hundred bucks. I want to be. I want to be. If somebody was like, if somebody was like, like, if you gave me a hundred bucks, then here's, you know, uh, fucking Tom Brady's under.

wear a hundred bucks why what what use you can so yours is tom brady that's what you know just trying to think that's where his mind went yeah i'd probably go us same bolt maybe too same bolt's a really good one because he's not wearing from that long yeah you know i'm saying he's running so fast too it's like the air's just taking the smell away uh hundred bucks dude you could flip that you know how many jamaican would probably pay like jamaica a million dollars for his underwear no no one's paid i mean i when i read that i'm like it's one of the biggest jordan fans ever like Almost to a fault. I was like...

Why does he have a... Wait, wait, where did this worn pair come from? Why hasn't it been washed? Because I know Mike is in the one that's putting it up there, think is like, you know, I need to make an extra $3 this one. I know my shoes are doing all right, but I could sell this underwear. For $3. Yeah, it's for a little three-piece.

Like, what? Yeah. Yeah, that one's an odd one. Let's just skip the topic. Yeah. What, what... I don't know. Like, even a headband I wouldn't wear.

Like, a jersey, I understand. Shorts, I understand. Oh, where? Jersey. I don't know. A jersey. I wouldn't even do shorts. Shorts?

Yeah, just jersey. That jersey is the only thing I would buy. Unless the shorts say their name on her. Yeah, well, no. Well, let's say, yeah, okay, fine. I'm not, yeah. I do shorts. Oh, I'll look at my shirt.

Tell me, tell me that. If you get the jersey and short combo, then it's cool. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, well, look at my, I have a good shrine going so far. Imagine a pair of underwear up there. That should have bang. Just hanging. Just a single nail through the top of it.

It's just hanging, not even in a glass. That's what I was saying, Matt. We're going to buy that underwear, and I'm just going to frame it and put it up there. And we're like, yo, are those, were you that $3,000? I was like, look, I got it. It's like, I'm reselling it in 2019. Yeah, sweet. Yeah.

I don't know. It's crazy. I mean, the collectibles have always been a thing. And I know we talked about it like in like a lot last time, but collectibles has been such a growing market lately that it's just like super cool. As a collector, it's super cool to see. I feel like Pokemon kind of like. Yeah, like it ignited that like collector. Yeah, that was revival in 2019 was crazy.

Pokemon, I mean, we've never seen like anything like that. Would you say it? I don't see it anymore is like so like that's like just flash in the pan, boom, and gone. Yeah. You just slowly receded. I think it's going to be back. It'll be back. It'll be back.

Imagine how much those boxes are going to go for when it comes back. There's some. There's some people on the low right now that are still opening Pokemon cards like hella. Oh, you know what I mean? The community was always there. It was just when it, when it came back, The top people in that community just blew up. Yeah.

Like Leonhard and, like, Randy and all of them. They just, like, blew up. The way that I see it, though, is, like, everybody who was a kid growing up in those things that made a shit ton of money are like, yo, nothing's going to stop me from buying this. So that fucking bumped up the marker. But there are kids today watching the Jake Pauls, watching the Leon Hart's, watching all these people that are on boxes. Like, man, one day I'm going to own that. Some of those kids who are going to become mega wealthy, if a crypto, whatever, are. gonna come back and say Jake Paul how much

two million give it to me out of it's easy I get to own it so bragging rights at the end that's so crazy which is fucking insane to me for sure when they come back imagine like how much were the the top like $500,000 like $400,000 they're gonna be like worth a million a million two million like

they're like 12 left or something like that dude or 50 maybe it's like 25 or something if I'm a billionaire and I'm like all what am I investing into next I'm like it fuck out surefire way to make money is there call me crazy but I feel like that's what blew up NFTs. It's like that Pokemon

wave, at least in our community, that Pokemon wave was just like, holy shit, that's something you can collect. And that's something that's mine and I really wanted it. And then the NFT wave came through. Matt, you could have told me to talk into the mic. I never was pointing this way at that moment anyway, so they never saw Maddie

just came over and manually changed my mic when I could have just you said did that piss anyone I tell you what Matt Craig is a man of action he waits for no man he takes it upon himself to get it to your point though I think you're right dude yeah I think you're right

the NFT part is that I don't think so I think people just throw around money now like NFTs like it's nothing just because it's like the thing to do yeah I mean there's also like it's just millions of dollars there's also the laundering issue right that's happening there like it's been

it's been a thing people just launder money through there right if I believe it yeah like I don't want to pay tax on this shit, Seth. Here's fucking $5 million in Eath. I just don't see. Oh, you're talking about crypto? Just in general.

Like, the NFTs. Like, first of all, I can't wait to do our own NFTs. You know what I mean? First of foremost. I've looked at NFTs multiple times and like, it's so like, like, tempting. I'm just like, I just don't get it, dude. I can buy that little piece of art and it's mine virtually. Yeah.

Like, that's kind of dope. Like, like, three times a week, I see banks posting something. I want to reply. I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Like, what? Right. And we talked to, a lot of people have,

have, have, like, signed up to be our NFT, cheers. That's pretty good. Thank you. That's not bad. To figure out,

like, what, you know, to teach, like what exactly it is, what makes sense. I just like holding physical shit, though. That's the thing.

It's like, if I'm collecting something, I want it to be, I want to, like, flip through the binder. Yeah. I want to, like, see the,

the casing of it. No, you can see it. You can see it. You just open your phone look at your wallet. Yeah, but that's like a virtual binder. That's different. I don't want a virtual binder.

But then I just take a screenshot and I have your NFT. No. Yeah. That's not true. Oh, yeah. It's like you could. You could print off. You could print off a picture of.

You know how many people you're pissing off right now, Scum? Am I actually? Millions. Millions. No, I'm not. Because every time I go to somebody buying an NFT, they're like, I have it now. It's like, it's a meme. It's like, it's like it's mine now.

It's not funny anymore, but. Yeah. It's so overplayed. You go and it's like 10 kids doing the same thing. It's mine. I own it. It's like, dude,

come on. It's like, yeah, but it's an actual like tradeable token that there's money attached to it. I understand. I'm just making a joke. Yeah. No,

I get it. I'm not relaxed. I mean, I mean, I'm relaxed. I'm used to say, I'm not mad. He's like,

you're mad. No, I'm not. I can tell you you're mad. That's the best way to get someone mad. When people in my stream come in, they're like, you're mad.

I'm like, shut up. Like now I'm mad because you said that. I'm only mad now because you're dumb and you said you're mad. You're like, I'm not dumb. We, I'm dumb now. Because you said I'm not. What the fuck?

What am I pointing at over here? So for example, like the llama, for example, like that if that becomes an NFT, like I get it, right? But I have weird flags. We're talking about digital. He brought the, what is it? One of eight collectors item? The Lama? From the Fortnite?

From the Fortnite party? He'd bash it up and he'd bash it open with a baseball. I'd be so mad. And you'd probably owe me like fucking 12 grand. From the E3 event? Yeah. You'd probably owe me like 12 grand.

Shit. We stole it. What if I had a replica though? And you never noticed. And then when you finally try to sell it, they like, it's a fake. I wrote something somewhere. Stole it? You didn't know you could steal it, but you stole it anyway?

I wrote something somewhere. Is it fucking, is it like, is it like, who? No, I'm not here. Andy on the bottom of his foot? You ever heard that song? Toy Story or some shit? You're not slick. Yeah, you're not slick.

Oh, man. All right. You heard that song? Like a thief in the night. And then it goes, bah, with the sacks. And he goes,

and you just see the sax man? To your, this looks like, where you are. How did the sax? It's holding a sacks. Yeah, but showed me again?

You were holding, what? I was right there with you. I was going to agree with you. I don't know that song, no. He was, that you missed it out.

All right, I guess this is a question for you pros, right? Valor and Pro's upset with the LCQ format being single elimination. Yeah,

not a fan of single limb. I hate single limb. Single limb sucks. It's horrible. I just don't think... And one of the biggest gripes that people have with it is that they're flying oceanic teams all the way over for a literal one and done.

Really? Yeah, like imagine you're flying to go play an octane S&D one and done. Oh my God. And if you lose you, you have to fly all the way back. Yeah, that'd be horrible. That would be horrible. But that's why...

Well, first of all, they get paid to fucking fly. Yeah, but that's like torture at that point. You fly 20 hours, you lose one match. You've been working. You wouldn't understand. You're not a competitor. The org would say. You wouldn't understand you're not a competitor.

20 hours flying all of the year of practice to go lose one map and then fly 20 hours back. That's literally torture. Yeah, but you're getting paid for it. Yeah, but you're arriving there. You're jet lagged. It's just torture. I just think the more that you play at an event, it shows how good your team is.

Anybody, like, you know what I'm saying? Like Seattle beat Faze last year. What the fuck was that? What if that was single limb? Was that single limb? No. No, no. Not for Faze.

Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, they were single in the whole year. But you know what I'm saying? Like, like that shit, that kind of shit just,

it just shows you. No shade. Like, that shit does happen. Which, which means that, like, it can happen in any event,

which is just like, so shit. Because it's like, obviously, phase is a better team in Seattle, you know? Yeah, but it's like,

that's why you play the game any given Sunday. But Cod is not like, other games. Yeah, I don't know how, like, I don't know, like, it's different. Like, League of Legends, I could see being single limb. Because, like, whenever I watched League when I used to at least,

it's like the better team always fucking on. Or if they play, like, a best of five single limb. Like, you lose a best of five, that's like, that's different. That's different. That's different. And, like, Valorin, you're playing a 35-minute map. I don't know, like, how bad.

Is it one out of three, though? No. Just best, I'm pretty sure they said it was one map. Yeah, one map. There's no way it's one map. There's no way this one map. I think Nate tweeted something. And that's what he said.

Doesn't it go faster? I haven't watched Valeron at all. Isn't Valorant faster than CS? Like it ends quicker? Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. Because I can understand. Yeah, Ballar games are definitely quicker.

I can understand because they would play best of threes. And that was my first time ever watching. Because Ballarin, I feel like is way more rushy than CS. You'll just be like a T-side, you'll just be like five rush-C like on Haven. The rounds over in 30 seconds. Really? The vibrator wall up. But like CS, rounds are always like two minutes long.

They're triple faking, quadruable. It's going trouble flaking, you know? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Personally, I, too, obviously don't like the single elimination stuff. I mean, I kind of like single elimination stuff. I mean, I kind of like single-alem. That's how I won both X-G, which is two matches, pretty much.

Those are best seven. Weird. Flex. Oh, ours was the best seven, right? Yeah, it was the best seven, but it was like. Wait, that's a long. Both X games were single-O-N? Holy shit.

Thank God. Thank God. We beat EG. They were out of the turn when I was like, yeah they were throwing too so they wouldn't have to play like certain teams it's crazy wait was it wait who was that that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that was oh it was pools

that's what it was I was like there was there was pool play into single limit yeah I'm joking about that by the way if you guys aren't call a duty fans then you guys obviously don't know that I was joking oh envy a hundred sit through you all through yeah you're on envy right huh were you on indie I guess he's retired I never threw shit so don't figure me and not he's never throw he can't it's against it's impossible for me to throw I have to so once my team do it for me.

It's a heads. Yo, Matt. All right. First Halo Infinite HCS event announced $250,000 price pool. Let me know. Halo pros. Like, I'm talking to, like, APG. I know you'll sketch.

APG, like, drop your guy. Drop your guy that, like, you know what I'm saying? Who do you team win? Like, boo-boo-boo-boo-boo? No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. But for real, though, I might play that shit. He's not playing.

I might. It's on my birthday, too. Yeah. Nick said he's 100% gone. And that's my hometown. I'm going. It's in Raleigh? Imagine you,

I'm wrong for sure. Maniac. No, I'm not to Nick. I'm not too. I'm not too. Like, I love Nick to death. He's one of my best friends. I just,

I've never played with them again. Dude, I'm so excited for Halo to be like back. Well, what if Nick doesn't want to play with you though? How would you feel about that? Nick, do you want to play with Matt? He said, he's one spiteful motherfucker.

He's one of the best Nick knows ever. It really was a perfect no. I'm so excited for Halo to be back. Yeah. Same. Dude, just an arena shooter again. I just want both of them to succeed. I want Cod and Halo to succeed because as much as I love BRs,

I can't watch competitive VR anymore. As far as like a first person shooter perspective. Yeah. It's just like, it's played out. Yeah. It's not competitive. It's not competitive. They're making something that is.

They're somewhat competitive, but they're mostly not competitive. I mean, I guess you can't say it's not competitive. Because they're definitely competitive. If the same five people win all the time, then you can't say it's not. But there is a huge factor of luck that goes into it. But there's also a factor of luck that goes into like a search and destroy round 11. Like you're literally flipping a coin.

But like I get it. Yeah. Sure. I just, I mean, I hope that, I'm not saying I hope competitive VR goes away. I don't think it should. But I want at least two arena shooters to be to be big again. And as much as I love gears, it's just not first person. So I don't think I'll ever be able to get into it.

I mean, are the, are those the only two are. arena shooters left like Halo and Cod? Yeah. This is what I'm going to tell you about HCS. I mean, it's an arena, but Splickgate really a competitive game? They just got a $100 million investment. So it could be, but it's not yet.

Yeah. Yo, Splickly it's, like, I've seen it, it looks fucking dope. It looks smooth. Yeah, it looks. The highest level of split gate, which is probably unbelievably cracked. It's got to be Fortnite for you.

A lot of cod players and stuff were close to the highest level, like champion, whatever. Bro, it's so insane. level now compared to the highest level in three years is just gonna be like it's just gonna be like bro, I guess Spider-Man. Yeah, he's gonna be like portal, like, bro, it's so insane the way that they figure out

port right. You'd imagine like you're like walking and like portals are appearing next to you and it's like them like portaling you to them and you just fall in front of them. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah like shit like that. Imagine that like they like portal you to them.

They like see. Holy shit. They have snipe and they see you running over there. They know where you're going. Just put a portal on the wall and just nooscope it. sniping like that shit's gonna happen for sure it's gonna be so hard to understand to like like imagine showing your mom that it's hard as fuck to understand yeah this is what's in halo you're like if he's holding the skull he's getting points this is what this is what's dope about halo right here it's it's

being ran all the competition is being ran by adam epicella that's a really good start is the best the best start right i'm talking about e-sports engine the the the people behind mLG and what made mLG MLG right so like even just that alone I'm like I'm definitely going just seeing him at the event is going you know what I'm saying and knowing that he's like pacing back and forth backstage or like get that same feel yeah what's good bro it's like this is what I'm used to yeah this is yeah it's the shit oh it's nothing like the CDL yeah right oh yeah I mean you can say well let's not go that crazy man Sorry for all my audio listeners.

I don't know. I'm excited for it. I'm glad that HALO's like, all right, who fucking ran? Who built up MLG Halo? It's crazy. MLG player. All right, let's go to MLG people to run this thing. And I guarantee you that the formatting, the way that this is going to happen, it's going to be like MLG events, right?

It's not going to be everything, one after the other, where a champion is not going to get to enjoy their championship for more than. than a fucking two weeks. Is it open bracket? Yeah, there's an open bracket. Is it open bracket though, the whole way or are there seated teams?

It's open bracket. Okay. That's lit. That's gonna be insane. That is lit. Yeah. So there's a, there's a possibility that like,

that a random team can win, yeah. That like phase could get knocked out in top 157. Oh no, no. I believe the top eight that are like, they are already seated into like top eight. Open bracket qualification leading into pool

and eventual 32 to seven. team championship. They're seeded in the annual 24-P brackets. Through the gauntlet. Dude, the thing about how creative this was, in Halo Reach at the last, like, no-blumost-prin event,

the seeds were based off, there was one event in, like, 2012, and it was Columbus, and it was just, like, the last Halo Reach event. There was no seeds leading into it. You had to play, every single player there had to play a free-for-all on, like, Friday. And, like, everyone in your team would get, like,

points based on, like, where you placed. Damn. So, like, you had to get, you know what I'm saying? All four people had to place pretty to get a seed, whatever. One of my teammates lost in, like, fifth round, I was like, no. That's going to hurt. I got soft paid, obviously.

You know, I made to the final. But I was like, I was like, I was like, don't really, boy, you got this. I played a throwback. That was kind of like a crazy game. I played a kickoff tournament last year in Cold War, and it was the same thing. And Seth was our captain, and he had to play the free-for-all. And he got, like, seventh, and we had to play Simp first round. And so I went to dinner that night.

What, the super team that you let form? Oh, that wasn't me. That wasn't me. This was like Rockers Tournament They let fucking super teams for them And then you go into the tournament It's like wow this is fun You just get fucking throttled

Yeah that's just not And then you get eliminated That's just not happening this year trust They don't run the tournament's right They just let like three-fourths of phase Be a team and I'm playing with like Davis Who is it? Who is that funny Matt?

Who else was on our team? Matt was like me you Who was our team Well their fourth was like Brian Stain It's like not like he doesn't have competitive Who was our team? It was, uh, who the fuck? You, Damon and then TST?

Against like cell. Against like sim. Yeah, literally. You got a super team too. I don't even, I'm not sitting quiet here. You want to hear my team? No. I can say Pomage and like, um, I don't remember the other two, but that none of them played God.

It was fun. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I remember being so mad. I was like, we literally had no chance in that series. Is that what turned you off to competing in these warsome tournaments? Well, Warsone tournaments, there's last year's, Warzone tournaments were a lot different to Now's. And I feel like unless you're in the war zone community and like playing with like people that know how to play war zone, like you can't go in with pros and win.

Like they just have so much more knowledge on how to actually play those tournaments. Because like there's there's like a method to it. But we don't, but we don't have the experience to just hop in and be like, all right. Just going to try trying to fly. Like we can compete like the World Series of Warzone showed that. If we had experience, I feel like we would have won that. Yeah. Because like we got red doored and we were about to.

We could have won on fourth game If we had had a good game We were on like eight kills already We got red doored full loady Just killed like a really good team And super evident his team just appeared In the same building as us Literally appeared

And just third part in air And then after the game when we died Our chat's like it's a red door And we're all like And we didn't even know We didn't even know it was in the game We were like what the fuck's a red door Dude they appear in a random spot on the map

With a fucking Vsat Jesus And like specialist bonus and shit I was like I swear that's everyone I hear footsteps You know what I'm saying? It was scary. It was the wackest thing ever. That was crazy.

We were in, we were in third, and we were eight kills, full-loady in a good spot. Just killed, like, a top-five team. I forget. It might have been repuls. I think it was repuls in them, like, and they're a good team. Yeah, they were a good assing. And we were like, yo, like, that's huge. And then we got third party.

And we were like, and then we got two kills the next game. We could have fucking won that shit. We could have actually won that shit. And that was after like six months of not playing. Yeah. So that would have been super-tippable. Yeah, that would have been crazy. Yeah, I'm a fan.

I'm a fan of those Warzone tournaments personally. The private lobby ones... The kill races one are... They're horrible. I'll just come out and say... Private lobbies are fine. Kill race tournaments are horrible.

You have to compete against people as good as... They're more fun to watch, but they're just so... Way more fun to watch. But they're just so dumb. The viewership for custom lobbies has just plummeted. Really? Yeah, because... I mean, dude, well, you go into a kill race

and you got, you're playing against freaking whoever and they got, you know, viewers and you get StreamSnight by them. Yeah, that's true. like scumming, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there could be just like people feeding kills. You have no idea. Yeah, like, you can't.

There's just so many gimmicks and loopholes. There's so many things. Like, that sort of thing. That's why it can't be. In a private lobby, playing against people who are at your level and you know who they are. Like that, to me is where the competitive. People still try to cheat.

You guys remember, like, it was like a month ago or something. There was like a war zone clip of a two on Desertile. It's like this guy cheating in a custom lobby. Like his POV just cheating. Like, and he's just like, don't one, got two. Oh, dude, wait, wait, wait. Like a world series. You have some balls.

Last night, last night when I was playing with, I think it was, I think I was playing with Cloak. I don't know if Tim was there at that moment. Weird flex. No, but he had a viewer in his stream that was streaming, stream sniping us and cheating. This guy was a school teacher. He had a webcam on. Like, this guy was cheating with a webcam on, webcam on stream sniping us.

He was a school teacher with two kids. stream sniping and like ultra hacking. No shots. Yeah, I was like, bro, I've seen it all. A school teacher with two kids. A school teacher with two, like a grown ass man. A grown man. A grown man. Like, are you talking about like a 29 year old or like a I didn't, I didn't personally go look, but he was a school teacher. So I'm assuming he was like above the age of like 26. He hadn't been older than like me. So like y'all's chats just went in there and found out all of his information and shit. Is that what he wanted to do?

I mean, they didn't docks the guy. I'm just saying. I mean, if he's a streamer, look, if he's a streamer, if he's a streamer, a regular streamer knows what streaming is. That means that he's got a public profile on Instagram or whatever that is him promoting himself, right? He doesn't want to teach no more. He wants to be that sort of thing. Like, he definitely put a school teacher. A school teacher. Imagine your school teacher's lame?

Dude, he just, I had nothing but cool-ass teachers all my life. Imagine he goes to the glass next day. He's like, yeah, I never had a bad teacher. I had some whacks. He told the shrimp sniving in the fucking town, man. And Cheatting. And Cheaping. And I teamed him too.

I team wiped him. He showed him the clip and he's just, he's literally, he has the hack where you can shoot like at the ground and your bullets still hit me. Yeah. You can shoot, like, say like this is a person. You could just shoot the ground around and then all your bullets just hit him. Just hitting someone. Yeah. Yeah.

Like what was that thing where you could shoot it onto someone and then shoot and all your bullets with him? What game was that from? Like tracking? No. Like there was something where you could shoot somebody with something and then like shoot and all your bullets would go. I forget what it was. A needle? No.

The Halo hacks were crazy dog. Yeah? Yeah. Even in like Halo 2, you'd do, in Halo 2 matchmaking, bro, people, you'd run into, it was called modding. Like, and like if you ran into a modder, bro, like you would, the game would start. All you would hear was an automatic sniper and your screen would be black and you're like, dude, no shot.

And sometimes, just sometimes you'd get the fourth spot on the cheating team and you'd be like, You're sitting there next to her just jumping up and down. You're like, what's up, guys? Like trying to party up and shit. But dude, if you were on the other team, you're like, this is so shocked. That's a little bit of a taboo thing to talk about. Try to party up with the cheater because someone just got banned in Valorin. I don't know if you guys saw that.

They got a three-month suspension because they were actively playing with the cheater and they knew it. I thought it was boosting. So you got to watch yourself. I know. I'm trying to say how time to change. That's the thought I was trying to pretend. it was Halo 2, I'll do it again if I was 13 and it was Halo 2. That's the thought I was trying to portray

it. The times have changed. You did that in Halo 2 people would have been like, fucking sweet. Do you think if they were able to upgrade all of the graphics and they were able to upgrade everything to today's technology from Halo 2, do you think that a Halo 2 league would be viable? No. Not no, dude.

That's what it was? Yeah. H2A happened. The nostalgia only gets you so far. So true. Every call of duty is like that. It's just impossible. It's like when I went back and played like I love World of Warcraft. Like I've been playing it since I was like nine years old. But when Wow Classic came out, I didn't play it just because I had like no desire. Yeah. It's just so outdated. Because I was just like, this game is gonna die out soon because, or not soon, but it's gonna die out eventually

because once you hit level 60, it's only Wow Classic. But then I guess they did bring out the Burning Crusade. So maybe my point's irrelevant. But this is Chinese to you guys. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, that's, I mean, just it only gets you so far. It sounded cool crusade sounds cool. As far as like competitive.

That's what you got from that. That was what you're going. But like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you go and dump your time into that, it feels like a waste of time because I've already dumped my time into that. And I know everything that I've already done doing that. It's just impossible to recreate the memories. Yeah. It's just impossible.

Like you can try to get close. Yeah. But you just can't hit it, you know? I think modern warfare remaster did a very fucking good job. Like Cod 4? Yeah. Yeah, that was a good remaster. Because, like, it wasn't just the game.

You could go play wagers or you could go play. Yeah, yeah. They also changed shit. Like, there was new maps. There was new guns. There was new, like, new, like, new, like, new ways. Sniping wasn't the same. New ways to customize your gun.

Like, if it was just the M16 and you could only... It was a weird-ass engine, wasn't it? Yeah. That wasn't you could use... You could sell people across the map, huh? Yeah. Like, easily. Yeah, and you couldn't strafe jump into a scope.

Like, it would... Oh, that's why you were getting shot. That was your fucking. But it was my favorite. Still my favorite game of all time. The remastered version? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think a Halo 2 remaster.

And you know why? Because they gave me camos. It's not the same. But it was also executed really, really poorly. Yeah. With the release and the servers were down for free. I forgot about age. Yeah.

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When is it? Welcome back. Have they said what the HALO event is? I got to book it. I got to block my calendar to make sure. You're going for sure? A thousand for sure.

Oh, especially. Was there an MLG rally at one point? Yeah, there was a bunch. When is it? When is the tournament? Raleigh, September, December 1719. Bro, I might actually be keen to go to that.

No, cat. I might. Let's do it. Dude, listen, let's do it. And then let's go to that famous chili dog spot. Well, it depends heavily on how the game was. What famous chili dog spot are you talking about? The game looks like it's ass.

Do you think the games would be good? I don't know. If the game looks like it sucks, I'm probably not going to want to go. But if the game looks good. The game looks fucking really. The game looks good. It looks good. I think it looks good.

I think we're going to go support him play. support me if you're actually playing I'm I'm gonna have to I might shit well the game looks God like yeah yeah yeah dude imagine you are you gonna touch vanguard when it comes out yeah have to for war zone right yeah yeah probably why not right I'm gonna leave you in the dust like you're sitting there screaming I'll be right over there He's threatened He was like How many times do you think he's going to be like

You never played warsome with me I'm like I'm like I mean He made that phase like He did it was pure jealousy He was pure jealousy Look at him So there's this Matt can you look up

Man versus food I've been like I've been begging you to play with us And then chili dogs I've been begging him to play Like please come play Worson with us You'd had so much fun

And he's like no And then I go and fucking tune into his vows stream and he's lost seven games in a row. I'm like, There's no way you're having fun, bro. You're watching. You're watching, right? I was teetering. He got to-at-a-cust. He went all the way up to Immortal 3. And I tuned in last night. I'm like, let's see if he's finally hit Radyy. Yeah, he's a motorist. I'm about to drop in the diamond. He's a lot. I was like, a lot of zero rank score. Like, about to drop in the diamond.

That's the problem. I'm like, where are my, like, where are the lobbies where I can start shooting on people? I get like one a day where I'm just like, okay, I don't think it's like working. So it's like one skill-based, not nasty lobby day? They just forget. Yeah. They're like, wait, how do he sneak into this lobby? Yeah, that's weird. I don't know. Matt, Matt in the meantime is looking, there it is. The Rose Grill Challenge. Bro, oh, my God. That might not be it. That Chili doesn't look like it's, it was this on Man versus Gros. Yeah, that's it. Oh, dude.

That's it. Is that in, where is it, Matt? He used to love this guy. This guy had the best job. Yes, he really did. You really did. Dude, just go eat delicious food and just try to eat all of it. Yeah, Matt, yeah, Mr. Raleigh.

I've never even heard of this place. You never heard of this place. You never heard of, oh, I thought you were going to say you never heard of man versus food. I feel like he couldn't eat that much. Bro, I had 17 hot ice. I had 17 chili down like five store burritos. I know. For the record, I had 17 and my brother had 20.

You could not do that. I'm a bitch. Yeah. He's, I can recognize a bitch. Bro. He's a bitch. Yeah, that's it. That's it.

That's it. So check this out. Me and my brother went there. And it's somewhere in the, in the, in the, in the hex files. Hot weaners. It's somewhere of the X-Files. I ate 17. My brother 821.

Three short. You said what? I ate 17 of those and my brother 821. Hot dogs. Wait, really? No, chili dogs. You ate 17 chili dogs. Yeah, and my brother 821.

Did you get sick after? No, I fucking loved every moment of it. How big is it? I'm regular. So it's a regular set. You wait 17 and your brother are 21. You know that hot dogs take off 30 minutes of your life every hot dog you eat. Okay.

Worth it. So 17. Let's do the math. That is eight and a half. Well, I'll tell you what. By the time. That's eight and a half hours of your life. Are they feed hot dogs to grannies?

And they're just like, yeah, she's done a little. It's impossible to fucking think about that. If you're able, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, shit. Yeah. I know exactly what it says. If you are able to pinpoint how many seconds it takes off your fucking life, that means that you can predict when someone's going to die.

Oh shit. Yo, if I take you to places in Raleigh, you're not allowed to do this. This fuck, this shit sucks. You're not allowed to do that. Don't take me to Mexico places. Because it's my hometown.

I get protected. Oh, okay. You're seeing the movie knowing? Yes. Nicholas Cage. Yeah, that's the worst movie I've ever seen.

It's actually a pretty good movie. No, the worst movie. That's a pretty good movie? It's a cool concept. It's what they know when the, like catastrophes are going to happen? And it's the calendar? Oh, maybe I'm thinking.

Yeah, you're thinking of something else. Do the aliens come at the very? end? Yeah, yeah. The aliens came everywhere. No, no, no, no. You're thinking of a fucking sex movie, I think. About Los Angeles or something. No, no, no, I know what you're thinking of. It was where his kid could talk to aliens and the aliens take the

children to some place at the end. Yeah, knowing. Independent. Like, it starts with the movie. That's the worst movie I've ever seen. No. Oh, it's the same movie. It is the same movie. Yeah. That's the worst movie I've ever seen. Oh, then you don't have a brain. I'm going to go watch that later. I'm going to go watch that later. This is where, like, there's numbers on a door, right? I thought the concept was really

to be fair. I was, to be fair. I was in high school and at the time I was like I don't think I ever like watched like a bad movie and then I saw that and I was like that was a really You haven't seen that? The worst movie of all time. Or the worst acted movie of all time is a, it's a movie called It's a lot of

It's Sylvester Stallone's like racing movie It's called Yeah Dude knowing got a 34% on Rotten Tomato Okay, you got a fucking 90s Red Tomatoes is a Capameter right there So my favorite movies are like 100% with Seth on this one.

I don't ever yet. You ever seen the movie accepted? Bro, Driven is the worst acted movie ever. Let's see. Matt Craig, look up the tomato meter of accepted. Wait, Driven?

You know who got, you know who was a terrible actor and then got, has gotten pretty good? Is the rock. If you watch Fast 5, it might be the worst. He's a good action.

So bad. What a get? A 38 and that movie is fucking gas. Accepted. It's really good. You can't tell me that movie's not great. Oh, no.

It's amazing. make the fake college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like every... That movie is great. I feel like every, like, Jonah Hill movie has gotten, like, bad reviews. I tell you it's possible?

It's definitely not, but... You want to know who the worst actor is? The guy that's playing Riza right now and Wu-Tang American side of that. He's a huge object fan. He's a huge object for him. He's listening in his car right now, and he's like... No, he's not the worst right.

He's not... He's a stray for what to be old. You're not the worst act. Pulls over, crying. You're not the worst actor. You said it with your chest. What I was trying to say, what I was trying to say, what I said it with a chest,

is that I bet you he's a really great actor. He's just not a good Rizza. Well, Riz did 14%. He said Riza casted him. And Risa casted him. So now I'm at, you know, one of my favorite people or beings on Earth. I don't know.

If you're at 14%, it might be. Bro, no, listen to me. It is the word. Like, isn't it funny? Matt spelled Sylvester with an eye. Sylvester. But there's got to be like really good movies That's how you spell it?

That's how you spell it? Oh, it's a why. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a cousin named Silverio which spells with an eye. And I was thought I'm like, man, they must have done like silver shit in the past. Yeah, would the platform get on

Ron Tomatoes? I think it was rated as well. Which was the platform? It's a Christmas special. Dude, yeah, I was horrified of watching this movie. Remember the platform? We literally kept talking about, I was like, Matt, how gross is it?

Yeah, I watched it. Seventy-9 is it? I watched it with him. Yeah, 79. How was it? How was it? How did you like it? It was good.

Really? It was like a good movie. Yeah, it was a little bit fucked up. It's just gross. Yeah. It's a good movie. It was a little fucked up, but it was a good. It's a really cool concept.

I'm not, I'm not. As long as it does, Spanish, Eloyo, which means the whole. That's, in Mexican, that's like completely, it has connotations of El Yojo. What? What do you say over there? It was a really cool movie. All right. Okay.

Let's move on. We're talking about movies too much. Yeah, we're so, all right, here we go. Nick Berks. Nick Brooks had the M-Fam

barbecue. That shit was super dope. Yeah. He looked awesome. He ran out an entire stadium. He's in the, like, for years now, right? He's in like,

no, no, that's, see that's, I think this is the first year he did it. No. No, no. He's done this before, bro.

He's got him in Michigan. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. I thought this was the first one. Yeah. I've seen this year before. No, no,

this was the, maybe the third one. Because I bet you he started, like, we don't even know when it started, but I bet you he like did some like get-togers

for his like mods at least and from mods and went to fans and then from fans and then for fans to do that. That's super typical. I've always wanted to do

an Opticon. We just never gotten around to it. That is super cool. Yeah, we did. Optic Arena. No, that was a... Imagine just throwing back

Lizzie's with your, with your viewers. Yeah. That's the line. Yeah. I want to do a pint park like that. You know what I mean?

Like just me and my Smoking noy-oinks, smoking bat doyks. Smoking fat noinks. That's super cool. Shout out to him. What's cool about that is all his friends showed up. Yeah. You know what I can't believe Tommy went.

Temper flew from the phase shoot. Well, he had to, though, because Nick is in phase. Oh, dude. I literally forget that Nick's so big that I forget he's in phase. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. M-F. Oh, M-Fam.

What's the M? What? What? What? What? Well, I think that where they go from here is just like, I mean, they had it in a pretty big stadium already. Like, where does he go? Like, how much bigger can it possibly get is what they're saying?

They'll probably just fill out the stadium. I think that's cool. Like, I don't really know what else you could do unless you're, what are you going to rent out the AT&T stadium? No, I think he should just keep doing that and then until you fill out the stadium. Yeah. And then you upgrade. Yeah. Yeah.

He, I mean, seeing how his career is going, he might. Yeah. Doctor's Respects looking for co-founders in his new gaming studio. That shit's crazy. It's cocky to me. What is? He's like, I'll build it myself. Yeah.

I hate every game. I'll build a game myself. Oh, I sure you're saying. I love that cockiness. Oh, I love it. Like a gaming studio. He's building a game. He's like, what?

That little twinge. I don't know what twinge. What was that? It took my surprise. You smell a little twang? Yeah. You know anything about that twang? Casey Frey, I think that's his name?

dude Casey yeah I don't know I don't know what you're talking about good he's pretty he's fray the guy that's like the inside son yes yeah the guy that dances like how did people like just the internet just was like this is funny yeah like it's not it just doesn't make any sense but it is funny so no bro he's like he's like he's like like mega funny he's got twang you've seen the twang one where that's right i've just known that word oh my god matt you're not yourself you see bring up twang on on youtube do you know how have you ever seen him like actually dance like he'll every once in a while they're on a dude he can fucking move thousand percent uh make sure that there's audio here so they can see it and make sure

that the world can hear it because it's baby you ain't got that twang i love this one of famous you don't have to put that in the in the in the in the video i liked it leave it in there then that's some good stuff so i think i think that after being a developer right well let's let's let's chronologically go down dr disrespects like career. He was a content creator. He moves on to be a map, map designer for

Sledgehammer. Build some shitty fucking maps. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. He built solar. Yeah. I love solar. What's the other one he built? Don't listen to him, Doc. Solar is lit. I think all of his all of his maps were. Makes sense. Yeah. Did he make retreat? No, no, no, no.

He made the one where it was a CTF map. There was a CTF map. There was like that right there right there solar horizon instinct ascends so these are these are the ones that he worked up recovery was cool the dark one it was like dark it was like

all indoors there was like a place where you could go down over here and then there's a mid it was pretty big map yeah yeah pretty big map yeah yeah I don't know what the fucking side thing had where you had to go through tunnels yeah the tunnel that I don't know about that but yeah anyway so because

he's got experience he's been able to sort of be overly critical with the ability to be able to criticize people because he has been in those things you know what? He lets motherfuckers know, bro. When we criticize a map, we don't know what the fuck it takes to do get there. He'll break someone

down. He'll like you address someone directly. He's like, yo, Ryan? Like, you're like, who the fuck's Ryan? Yeah, yeah. He's like a worker for like, yeah. Didn't he build? Yeah, didn't he build a map in Rogue Company? And then it became a map. Yeah. I think so. Yeah.

And what he made one like on stream one. When he tweeted out the The Champions Club, isn't it? Like, yeah, it's the actual arena. Yeah. Bro, when he tweeted it, when he tweeted out the map design, I'm like,

what is that a map for ants? Is that for ants? Oh, I don't know. Oh, my God. Anyway, a lot of, yeah,

a lot of people got the reference and they all laughed. Yeah, I'm just not a movie guy. I am. I'm king movie guy. All right, so listen,

Dr. respect is looking for co-founder. You know, Blue Seal was invented 20 years ago, like, Paige let us know. Page, let us know. Page.

Blue Steel, remember the Loki? Yeah. Like, whatever he does? Yeah, It was invented 25 years ago by fucking Joan Rivers. Wow.

I thought it was made in the movie. No. Not made in the movie. You're not made in the movie. Because think about it. They were making fun of models. And one of the way that they made fun on was like, the cheek sucking. I don't know if Joan Rivers was the fucking person.

I made that shit up. Well, anyway. Joe, what up, Bose? What do you think, Doc's going to make? What kind of, uh... It's going to be a shooter, obviously. Like you are? Like an arena or a BR?

It has to be VR. Maybe a VR. Oh, they did show like a platform where you like, okay. Okay, my brain's being, okay. So apparently it's, he's building a building. Like, have you ever seen the movie, the Great, the Raid Redemption? Where they fight from level. Yeah.

So I think that that's what he's building. A BR that happens inside of a building. And you have to go floor by floor or some fucking weird ass shit. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. It sounds like audio cues fucking up. But, you know, do you?

Yeah. Right? because you hear him downstairs. Especially being such an audio guy. Not a big audio guy. Yeah, I don't know. I think he will figure it out. Either way, Doc, I don't understand why you fucking put this shit out without coming to

Papa first to see if I wanted to be a co-founder alongside my brethren. We both have, we meet both requirements. We have capital and an audience. So look no further there, fella. You found them. What investments have you missed out on that you regret? Besides. You had one.

You said it recently. Yeah. Like, damn, was it. I don't want to tell you don't want to say probably there was no which one was it you said one recently I know I've had several can I say it yeah discord oh discord discord fucking he would you wouldn't even be here right now you fucked up no yeah would with discord nothing would change my life like I would have I would come here with like this would look we would be upstairs we would be upstairs how much how many points would you've

had in this court let's fucking move on oh you're salty salty not that salty but yeah Discord. No, imagine, Gary V. missed on fucking Uber, Twitter, fucking, oh no, no. I don't know, no, I think he was in Twitter. I don't know. What did he miss?

Didn't Twitter sell to Facebook for like, wait, no, Instagram. Instagram sold me. Yeah, for fucking two Star Wars franchises. What's that, like $14 billion? No, I think it was like two. How much it was like $2 billion, right? Anyway.

That's it? Did you say $2 billion is it? this was like how much that fucking Instagram compared to like other things yeah fucking

the cowboys are worth seven billion you're telling me cowboys are bigger than Star Wars yeah but yeah fucking right right there here we go

in 1212 sold for one billion that is nuts it sold for one in 2012 though now now look at this 10 years ago I mean that's when

the original trilogy is already yeah we're talking about Instagram Instagram in 2012 now to put it

is this not Star Wars This isn't Star Wars. No, to put it into perspective, you should have said Star Wars. How much was Star Wars sold to Disney for, Matt? God damn. Disney runs everything, bro. Yeah.

How close to a monopoly is Disney? Yeah, let's hope they get there's $4 billion, right? Now, look, no, no, no, now search this, Matt. How much is the Star Wars franchise worth today? Jesus, fuck. That was also in 2012? Yeah.

Holy shit. That's why I made the comparison. It sold for four. It's worth, look at that. $70 billion. So he sold it for four and it's not worth 70. But that's because of the amount of gas.

What? Look at this. 102 billion Instagram. They sold it for one. It's worth $1.0.2. But would they have been able to get to this valuation without the help of fucking Facebook? No, there's no way.

I mean, $1 billion, $1 billion. I'm good. For $1 billion, it's like you and like, what? He probably had like $12. It's like you and your $30 fucking employee. 12 or 30 employees and now he has like buildings pine park is going to get us there hell yeah we are all right uh what are matt bring us back to bring us back to so look i'll tell you what i'll tell you what i think i think i think that is wow for 20 hours straight do what you want look and the way that he's

doing it is smart right because the founders have to be people with massive audiences as they as he as he talks about it and what he's looking for so right there already you have an you have activation you have 3, 4, 3. You have 10 cents. You have who made those? Who made Epic? Epic. You have Epic games throwing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, on a monthly basis sometimes to

promote, to have these players promoted. If you're an owner with Dr. Disrespect's thing, then you guarantee that it's going to be a pop-up. It is in your best interest to promote the game. It is an owner. You're an owner. He's like trying to take investment with the top

Yeah. Content creators. Yeah. So, smart. Dr. Dispect ain't no dummy. I'll tell you that much. And it's been done before. That's been done before, but they were all like mobile games and like shitty games.

I remember like, yeah, it was like, zombie killer squad. Right. Shit like that. Yeah, but like,

ahead of his time. He's trying to make like, I mean, what can you bring up? What's up with Fortress? From, from Captain Sparkles? Like,

that shit should be coming out anytime now. Think about high pixels new game. Right? I didn't even know high pixels was making a new game. Yeah. Well, I think it's Hype Pixel or what's the other?

Minecraft. Minecraft. It's like it's a server, but they're making a Minecraft-esque-looking game that Riot invested in. Oh, what? Yeah. Matt, God damn it. Oh, yes. I do know what you're talking about.

Sounds like you can just start picking some better topics. Some better what? Topics. Who? Why? What and where? Matt Pitchel. You just talked about wow to us.

And we listened. We can't talk to Minecraft. These are good topics. Oh, oh. Sorry, I snapped back at you because I thought you were snapping. You know, I take away my snap. We take away our snap. No.

We apologize. Everyone thinks I'm always coming at them, but I'm just trying to help. You do be coming at people. You come at people. I'm just trying to help in their general direction. This is a great topic. Why don't we talk about investment in different games that are coming out that we don't know? What's up?

Where are we at with Captain Sparkles game, Maddie? Captain Sparkle's Mobile Game Fortress, Fallout. Seasons. Seasons. So the reason that he got a cease and desist because he named the, so let me explain that. He got a cease and desist because he named the, the mobile game Fortress and Fallout. Obviously, there's already a game named Fortress

and there's a game called Fallout. So there's obviously Carlos Parker's mobile games, which is, but it doesn't take away from the fact. Where do you cease and desist? It's right there and bolded. It's right there. I'm going to make a new game

that's called Call Duty Halo. I don't think, look, whatever it is, like this, this is, this is just Halo Portal. So we haven't seen any news on it. I thought it was funny. I thought it was funny. I would not. Swinging a minute.

What I will say this is, I don't think that, I think that this still going to come out. Obviously, there's another one. What's your, what are you guys laughing at? I'm laughing at this idiot. What? Just look over and his look. He's just like, looking over it, you're just like, it's like so funny. I didn't, whatever.

Anyway, what I'm saying, though, is that it's been done before, and it's, and it always has, like, that same connotation of, like, it's obviously going to be successful. Because the audience is already there. Wait, what? People make, like, creators make their games? I don't think a creator that a creator made game has ever been successful. Zombie Killer Squad was. Was it? Yeah.

I guess Gary's Mod, but I don't think they could take an ownership on that because of Because it's a mod of other things. I don't know. It's going to be a game. Let's make a game. Yo, I came up with the game. Imagine. Don't say it here.

All right. What's the last? Let's end on a question because Embo's just out here acting like he's got to go. So where are you got to go? Look at them. Yeah. He's just like this. I actually do got to...

Okay, fine. Last thing. Danny Chuan, Chuan, is competitive FPS ever switched over to virtual reality? What are your reasons on why it would... Because the players might get hurt. What if you're like... Okay, but what if it's virtual reality? I just get socked.

It comes off. It lands on somebody else. What if it's virtual reality still with a controller? Oh? Yeah. What if it's virtual reality still with a controller? I mean, like, you're... A point? You're standing up playing? Like, no, you're on like slums, and you're on a, sorry,

raid and you're like head glitching. It's just like a different point of view. It's like first person shooter, but like, oh, you're talking about the running shit. Yeah, like you're actually running shit. I like you. Oh, fuck that, dang. That'd be so stupid.

I mean, you'd have to be in shape to play those games. Exactly. That's kind of a good thing. It would be fun to watch. Everyone shredded? Yeah, everyone's shredded, dude. They're taking like, like, a fucking fireman

like photos that I, One of them has an axe Like yeah Where you were going His fucking chest is just Vaseline It's just so different than every other Esports They're just like fucking shredded

And And like So let's go on with the Yeah Fucking reality league I don't know man Don't hold so hot though You went to a weird place there

Yeah sorry I always did Just know that at some point or other Within the next 15 years ARVR are going to dominate Anything and everything in gaming Because the technology is going to get to that point And that is where the NFTs that you buy today

are going to rain and shine supreme What is this? It's like a fucking callback With that set That's going to be for this episode That's going to do for this episode Thank you so much for tuning in We'll see you guys next time You heard me

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