OpTic Podcast - GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT CRIMSIX | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 116

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

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I think they all popped off and became too popular. much money individually to where it's like they don't there's no need to stick together like we don't i don't like if we weren't on the same they're like we i don't even need phase i think that's why this situation was so unique is because hector was like yo i can get it back and we were all like let's go yeah like none of us were like i wasn't like you know well i have an opportunity i was hype as fuck i was like wait there's a chance yeah right yeah we were all like that but like if there's an opportunity where like you just think about our timeline if that goes differently where the fuck

are all of us what do we do right now I was on Immortals I was on Immortals Mutineers Damn where would I be You were on the mutineers I forgot about that He was on fucking Florida I know I was insane

It was bad before even before the energy thing I wonder if I'd be corporate by now Welcome back to Episode 116 of the Optic Podcast I'm here with Money Bowes Seth, Scump, Abner and also the newly transition back into YouTube.

I've seen you, I've actually seen you've been doing your your IRL streams. I saw you the other day. I saw you the other day. I saw you the other day and you're walking past Tom Thumb and I was like, oh shit. I don't know how it started, but yeah, I've been IRL streaming. I'll just like walk or run to the office.

It started. I was running and I was by Ace TV's apartment and I know like he's all into his fucking fitness guru shit right now I was like let me start my live stream and then I was like outside of his apartment I was like Ace TV

it's 9 a.m. Where are you at? Let me guess you're fucking sleep and I was just like talking shit trolling and I like ran home, talked to the stream and it got like 600 viewers which I did not expect and I was like wait a second Is there like a fucking future in this?

Like I'm in like, I'm in like the, I'm in like, I'm in like the fitness and health section. So it's like, and I was just getting like new follower after new follower after new follow. And I'm like, what the fuck? Is there like potential in this? It's slowed down just a little bit. But it's still kind of like, I feel like it's almost like therapy. Just like going outside. I'm in the sun.

I'm just fucking rambling. And like everyone just has to listen. And like, I mean, they're talking in the chat back. I might communicate with it. They don't have to listen. They could turn it off. But it's so much just like a therapy sort of thing. Like I'm just rambling, talking about whatever.

Of course, doing my typical, like, trying to act, acting like I can teach people how to live a better life, even though I'm like the king of talking like that and then just, like, ruining my own life in a certain life. And I've just been doing that since 2017. I'm like, I just got to prove. Like I know more talking about it. That's why I'm doing this, the series that I finally started.

I'm gonna be doing YouTube videos on that. IRL stream, YouTube. Is that twice a week? Twice a week? I'll do a random video like once or twice a week. Like it's gonna, the 60 days is gonna be one video. But then I'm gonna have like maybe a vlog, a day in the life or something. Like I think Friday I might actually fuck.

I thought the content we were doing Friday was like us going somewhere. So I was like, I might vlog that day. I think it's just us, like, streaming. But I might, like, walk. I'm actually hype for Friday. Sorry. What is Friday? The beer league.

It's the first day of the beer league. What does that mean? See, I heard beer league. I'm like, do they have us going to some event where you're drinking? Which I'm not, because I'm shredded. So I'm pretty sure the whole, like, idea of it is to literally, I don't know, are we allowed to talk about it? Yeah, yeah. I mean, drink beer and play old cods.

That's literally the whole. Yeah, that's the whole premise. Yeah, I'm going to be sober for that one. I can't. I can't mess it up. I'm going to be on. Like day five. So are you going like no drinks, no anything?

I'm going to allow myself. Like if there's some event. One pizza a day. No, if there's, if there's some sort of event that like we're all going to. Just clutch it the whole way. But it's like if there's like, if there's like, if you give yourself a little bit, you're going to. Yeah, exactly. No, if there's a food, no, food I'm not cheating at all.

But if there's some event where everyone's going, like there's a bunch of people, whatever, it's like a fun time. it's the prime time to drink. I might get drunk. But besides that, so, like, I'll maybe give myself one time. You think I'm going to get drunk, just wake up the next day, fuck this fucking challenge. Yes, but no, not chocolate challenge,

but that night you might make a bad decision. Food, food, I'm not going to mess up. Like, it's like, it's crazy because it's, I've always said this, and like every, all of us have probably tried to go on a diet. We last a certain amount of time, then we quit. But it's like.

Yeah, I relapsed all that. It's almost like I didn't, I didn't know, uh, I didn't know if I was actually going to do it. I was just like, you know what? I'm going to start, I'm going to start a diet and like I'm going to start eating cleaner. But it's like, two weeks later, I fall off. And now it's like, it's like, maybe it's because I'm doing it for a video, but it's like, I know it's going to. It's 100% what it. Yeah.

I, uh, I 100% know I'm going to do this. So kind of feels good. Yeah. That's what like, whatever. Like, I feel like I've, I have like the dopamine to where I've already accommodated. I already like see me at the finish line. I like that. That's good.

I just shared it. Yeah. Like I'm excited. You should, I want to, I was, I was going to say you should set like if you do go out to an event, just set like a three drink limit. And then like... That would probably be smarter than just like saying, you know what, I'll allow myself to get blacked out drunk. But within those lines, we never said how strong the drinks are. You could get doubles.

True. You should have... I mean, I'll allow myself like one little. What did you say? The drinks at the last optic party? Whoa. Were they insane? Were they?

Bro. I went to the bar and I was like, it was probably like my six one. So I was like, I was feeling nice. I wasn't at that, was I? The optic part? Was it the one like over there? Yeah, like right here. Oh, yeah, yeah, I was at that one.

And then I remember like, I slipped a drink. I'm like, whoa. After that, I was like, I'm not in the mood to drink no more. I just left. It hurt? It was like propane. Those are my favorite drinks. What's crazy is when you get drunk enough, those just go back like it's nothing.

I tasted it though. I was like, phew. You tasted it too soon. Are you talking about the after party of the event or like the optic party? After party. Oh, I thought you were talking about like the optic party on the rooftop over there. No, no, no. I was like that was so long ago.

How do you remember that? That was crazy though. Wait, weren't we pouring our own drinks at the after party? I went to the bar a few times. Oh, did you? Yeah, we were pouring our own drinks. I didn't even make it there. Apparently like, hard liquor is like not as bad for you, calorie-wise.

Yeah, calorie-wise, it's better. So you should just like, do like, like club soda tequila. That's what I usually do anyway. I don't like the sugary mixed drinks. Like I just, I'm not drinking for a taste. Like I'm just, oh, just knocking back, get there. Saturday, I didn't even make it to the optic party.

Because Saturday, Dallas celebrated St. Patrick's Day. Me and Michelle went out and it's just by 6 p.m. I'm like waking up in bed. When did it click? I don't know how I got here. I was going to ask, when was it like, I got to stop? Well, I started late. There was no decision.

I just disappeared mentally. I just literally blacked out, woke up in my bed. But it was like, I started late. All of her friends were already drinking. We're on the way over there. I have like a gatorade bottle full of tequila. And I'm just meeting new people I've never met before. Yeah.

So I'm just like a little nervous. Like I don't know. Yeah. Just like a little uncomfortable. I'm like, all right, let me get a little tipsy. Chill out a little bit. And next thing I know, it was probably two, three hours. I probably had like 12 shots.

Probably had like five or six within like 20 minutes. Got there, had a drink. We go to a place. We get three drinks. We're coming back home. I stop at the liquor store because I'm feeling good. I buy a bottle. I go back.

I take like two or three shots. And then I'm on the rooftop like petting a dog. Next thing I would, no, I wake up. And I'm just like, oh my God, my fucking head hurts. The show has like pictures of us. There's tweets. I tweeted some shit. No.

Is that when you tweeted? The karma thing? Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember that at all. I thought you were joking. It was like karma's, I tweeted a total misspelling of everything,

but it was like karma so hammered on the main stage. I think it was like, maybe he was on your stream. Was he ever drunk on your watch party? No, it was when Damien was drinking on the watch party. Yeah, when they was drinking. Oh yeah, Damon got fucked up that night. Yeah.

I don't remember that at all. Yeah, but like somehow I was. Damon gets emotional about crimsoning. Does he? No, I didn't see it. He was like, crim sitting or crim coming here was like the greatest thing to ever happen.

He was like, he was drunk. That's next. Karma's absolute, oh my God. No, I thought he was joking when he tweeted that. So did I. I thought it was like a mean.

I don't remember that tweet at all. I don't remember watching. It was like a normal Nick tweet. Yeah. I thought he was. was like just being you. I made some horrible tweet and I like added hacks

and it's like Optic is literally the best community. It's like it's like the bulls when they had Pippin carrying joy. It was like the worst fucking tweet ever. Like there's funny ways to make jokes about like Jordan and Pippin and just to annoy hacks

but it was like it was the worst tweet ever. I was like that's actually fucking embarrassing. That's more embarrassing than like my spelling mistake. But yeah, I didn't make it to the, that was the long day. Didn't make it to the parties. Goodness.

I used to get, every time I used to drink, I would tweet. It was like a thing that we used to do in the stuff. I never tweet. See, I do the opposite. When I drink,

I know not to tweet. Unless it's like a video of like, we're at a game or something. Yeah. It's like, I'll do that, but I'll never like tweet when I'm drinking. I mean,

I would never like, I don't think I would say anything bad ever, but like, I just don't even like think about tweeting. Yeah. Me neither. I think I just like, just live in the moment.

I think last time I got, Drunken tweeted, I tweeted, if Drake's a lesbian, so am I. That was, that was true. I don't remember. I don't think so. I, TSC is taking like a week off, this week. Fucking Blake. Have fun, I guess.

He's in Ireland. But we, so I was like, you know, since I'm, since we're not TST streaming, I don't have to tweet out the stream every day. So, like, I just tweeted, like, this edible is shit or this. Settable ain't shit. You know that like meme? Oh yeah. And you tweet like three days later.

Yeah. And then I'm just not going to tweet all week. So like three days that people are going to be like, damn, that shit was like. That's kind of what I'm going for. But also we just got back from the dead drop event. That shit was super fun. Yeah. I wasn't expecting it to be what it was.

Yeah. Because I wasn't really briefed at all before. And I kind of just showed up. I knew that I was kind of co-streaming it. I didn't know what to expect while co-streaming it. But I get there and. Everyone's in the back playing beer pong right when I get there. We're like 45 minutes out from the stream.

And I'm like, all right, fuck I might as well get a drink or two. Yeah, I mean, I started drinking. I didn't realize it was going to be a whole. It was like a not an opt. It was like an optic event for doc sort of. Like just the amount of people that were like there in the crowd and stuff. Like is like what? They were just there to watch.

Well, a lot of those. Yeah. And I think some of them. Yeah. Some of them were allowed to play as well. Yeah, so there's like his his founders like the the people that I guess kick started I don't know how that how that works, but they kickstarted the the Midnight Society like process to make the game. They're all invited to those those like snapshot events. So this is the second one. TST went out we went out to the first one in in LA. That one was pretty dope. But this one was like crazy crazy like good productions and stuff. Like the last one was like. more like a panel and then like doc was there but like people were playing on like consoles i think don't know but this one was dope i was the first death and dead drop history and i got the first

kill yep you killed him well i'm sure that's not the first and dead drop history yeah but you got to say like we're streaming it people are watching it's like the first documented real multiplayer documented death and it feels good it was it feels good i feel like i feel like i'm going down in Doc history. What about the... Gotta be honest, Doc. I'm watching this game. The amount of shit talk.

Doc does for every single game. You better clutch up. It felt good, though. The game felt good. For playing a pre-alpha, something that early in a build, it was not bad. And the,

the, like, premise of the whole game, I think, is cool. Yeah. It's like... It's like H-1-Z-1. It's like a fast-paced extraction game because when you think extraction, you think like everyone's camping.

Crab walking. Not moving. Tarkov and then what's the other one? Marauders. What does extraction game mean? You spawn in, you go into the map, you get a bunch of loot and you extract. What do you mean extract?

You get out with your loot. And go where? Back to your stat. You have like a staff. There's like a loading screen. It's not like that, is it? That's exactly. Well, that's what, yeah.

I had a home. Well, we didn't have a home in that. We did it at the event because it was like a special game mode. But like when the game drops, I'm assuming there's going to be like items in game. So like when you get the sniper. I thought it was just straight up a BR like H1Z1. You boom, you spawn in. Right.

See, that's the thing. What I think is cool about it is it plays like a VR. It doesn't play like an extraction game. You can extract. There are helicopters that come in and you can leave through the helicopters. Or you can be the last alive. Well, was that like what they were, Is that what the game is going to be what we played?

Because I was expecting, like, extraction shooters, like, if it's not actually picking up, like, loot, like Tarkoff, for instance, I don't even see it as an extraction shooter. It's like... Oh, like, DMZ. Are you saying? Well, like, I've never played DMZ. I don't think DMZ is an extraction. So you go in, is there, like, loot? Like, are there, like, computer parts and tech supply?

Like, is there shit like that that you pick up? There's shit like that you pick up, but, like... Do you sell it after? At the end of it, it's just... XP. So you just get XP? Yeah, that's collecting XP or something. It's something like that. That's not really like an extraction shooter in my mind.

DMZ is like, you know, like in Tarkov, like I think Tarkov is like the staple right now for extraction, but like you know, like when you go to a gas station there's like AI that's in that gas station then there's like there might be a boss. Yeah. That's not like that in DMZ. And DMZ, there's just a shit ton of bots everywhere.

Like everywhere. And the bots and cod are insane. Yeah. Well, in DMZ they're horrible. And Like they don't shoot you? I mean, they will shoot you. But they're stormtrooper aim. Exactly.

But at least that's how it wasn't like when the game dropped. I haven't played it since then. Yeah. So I see an extraction shooter as like Tarkov. You go in. There's like things on the map. You get them. I mean Tarkov,

maybe Tarkov just did it like perfect. And you kind of have to try to replicate that. But I hope that they go that direction. Like I like those games. Like DMZ, I'll probably never play. Marauders. is similar to Tarkov, I'm pretty sure you go in.

There's, like, loot and stuff that you can pick up. Yeah. There's another one that's in space, right? Yeah, the space one. I forget what it's called. I can't remember that one either. Dude, I can't play no other game besides Cod. Yeah, you're like, what other game have you ever gotten into?

Iron Sight. That was the only other one. Which is Cod. It's the same. The hell is Iron Sight. It's a free to play. It's fire. It's fire.

It's fire? It's Cod, but on PC. Yeah. And like, every gun is usable pretty much. And it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's like, it's Love S&D. Bro, I was on there. I was playing, like, actual matches. That shit was so fun.

Whenever it was popping back then, it was so fun. Like Battalion, Battalion 1944? Dude, Hector, I played that game too, but Hector holds that game to like, did you play that game? Not. That game was insane. When Hector was showing me, like, his little clips, I was like, damn, I wish I was on this wave.

It was so fun. For like a week, it was some of the most fun I've ever had. Because they were in a Twitter. I already tell. It was a good matchmaking system. It was like, it was ranked. Shroud was playing it, Summit was playing it there's so many games for like three days

of its lifespan it's just like nuclear Halo Infinite Halo Infinite. Halo Infinite. Fall guys Remember like Tim the Tabman's Fall guys? Fall guys was insane. That shit was popping, disappeared, came back. Disappeared again. It's probably gonna come back again.

Well, they have seasons so in a new season coming out everyone's like oh let's go check out the new season for content and then it's either popping or it's not. Fortnite's kind of that way as well. I guess I played four. Fortnite for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah,

I think I played Fortnite with you for a little bit. I just like the... I was so bad. I'm just so bad at every other game. Really? Dude, I was terrible.

You just have to like grind. You know, you'll play like casually for like, you'll get on, play an hour or two. Get shit on. You'll just never get better. So you never played anything

other than Cod? Like, I mean like, but not talking like MLB and stuff like that. But like, I was going to ask about sports game. I mean, recently I was playing

the undisputed boxing game for a little, bit but like as far as like where I get on and look forward to like how I look forward to rank yeah the last time I felt that was probably Iron Sight dude I was watching your stream yesterday it's so funny just hearing what was it you nameless study spacely but it's just how and then crim and then crim's in the fucking discord in the background just talking shit like he was just talking shit to Space Lee you know he was talking like what is going on Like they're talking about fighting each other.

He said, what did he say? He said something about Spaceley fucking, what did he say? And then he said, you know what I got behind me? Smoke grenades and AK-47. And I'm just sitting there like my title was studying Bose gameplay or fucking something like that. And like I'm sitting there watching you and then Kramm just starts just comes on and starts talking out of nowhere. Like how does he even get in this fucking call? Like does he just see you guys in a call and just clicks and join?

I go to the beginning of that clip, someone joining was like, yo, and I'm like, who the fuck is this? Because I was looking at my game. And I go to it, it's crim. I'm like, what's the one? Like, how fucking bored is he? Yeah, I saw you commented on my chat. He's mad for it. He's doing his racing shit.

Oh, yeah, fuck. Yeah, he's on phase in the sim racing team. He got last place, didn't he? I mean, of course he did. Well, he's getting better. I mean, yeah. Actually, I have, like, faith in. It would be cool to see him succeed in that.

I mean, he's playing 14 hours. Yeah, that's what he was saying. That's like you joining the Cod team. If, if, who's the last place team right now? I think London. If the Royal Ravens were like, we're chalking our whole team and building around maniac. We're just going to fucking let it fly. Everyone would assume you guys would get last, but they'd have faith in.

Yeah. That you get better. You getting better. Bro, I'd like, we hope with that. Someone in the chat was like, I think they commented in, Spaceley's chat. They're like, yo, Krim, and then Space Lee was like reading the message to him. Like, yo, Krim, I have a something, something, 585 horsepower. You should give it a, you should come, let me drive you around sometime. And then Mike was like, I don't understand that at all,

but Krim, that's what he said. And then Krim's like, that was actually spoken to me in perfect English. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, holy shit. Wait, so what the clip of, I've seen it on my, uh, on my YouTube, but I haven't clicked on it. The clip of of Damon getting emotional what exactly did he say? I don't think he was actually getting emotional. Yeah they titled, wait no they titled it emotional. I think it was

like a troll but he was like a little buzz so he was not he was like he said it sincerely dude Damon got fucked up. I don't think he was emotional but the title made me think so because I click on it and he said it's so much funny man tell me Krim

just being here for the past 10 minutes wasn't the best thing ever He said it. Wait, that's what he said? And I saw it when it, bro, it just getting more views and more views every day. It's so funny. I saw it when I had like 7K views or something.

I was literally woke up in the morning was on YouTube and I'm like, I might have not even heard him. Was I even on at that point? Because he might have said it under his breath into the mic so like none of us hurt it. Every once in a while. Yeah, I don't know who else.

The couch, I think the couch was like kind of empty. It might have been like Damon and someone. I think it may have been you and just Damon. Oh is it Shouts out the fucking crim though No not Claywood It's a emotional For Clayway

Karma gets emotional Just type that in shit pop Karma emotional Krem That's so funny That's so funny I mean he was slamming like The tall boys

And I was like Goodness gracious Damon drunk Damon does get drunk Like when there's like random event He'll get drunk Wait let's see this

tag Yeah, this is it I'm going to turn on subtitles Fucking cram, man Kind of makes me emotional That more I got just a fat ass He's a clown

He said tell me Tell me him being on for that 10 minutes Wasn't the greatest thing ever Look at Damon, dude He's got a truly between his fucking legs A big ass Dude that's what I'm saying He was drinking the big boys

Yeah, it was, they were, they were big. That is fun. Damon does get fucked up at like random events. Dude, if people are drinking, he'll drink. He can drink the truly in like two seconds, right? Like he, have you seen him with beers? He just do, do, do, do, do. He just downs it.

You're done already, Damon? He's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He said, we were on stream right now. I had one bud light each day and I don't know, like, I can't get drunk on stream because I always feel like weird when I'm drunk on stream. Can't even, like, enjoy it.

Yeah, it's just like it just doesn't feel right when I'm drinking on stream. So I had like one bud light and then the next day on Sunday I had like half a bud light and I just felt like weird. So I don't know how he does that. It just drinks like four of them. Damon don't give a shit. I could I get drunk on stream though. I remember my first popular sort of optic stream was my birthday stream. That's the first time I ever like watched anything of you.

I think I think, I don't know. I think, oh wait, was I wait, was I wait you on that? You were, I mean, you were at the house, but I remember, you, Mike and Big T might have, like, walked into the room, like, after I'm just passed out, like, on the floor. Like, someone, it was a birthday stream. This was before it was, like, TOS, but to, I had, like, $20 donation per shot or something. Donate 20, I'll take a shot. And then someone might have had, like, three shots or something. and then someone donated $1,000.

And I was just like, what the fuck? Oh, my God. And I'm just like on top of the world. And I had a bottle of gray goose. And I was like, all right. I just started chugging it. Next thing I know that there's even a clip out there of me just like, you can see me slowly like fading away just consciously in front of the webcam.

And then my head just goes down. That's how I know it fucked up if I have to go like this. and then you were done and then I went from this so I was laying like that and then I puked on the floor or actually wait how did it work

I don't know if Big T turned off my stream but I can't remember when all I know is I puked on the fucking floor right there I remember the clip that like I first saw was like he turned off my shirt It was like Will walking in like this

like dancing and then went and turn Have you ever seen Will drunk I have never seen I don't think so I've definitely seen him yeah I have I have I don't remember it though because he never he never gets like for Seth's birthday party

he's drunk in 2016 that was the last time was that in do we hit the club that was when we went to the club to underground or something I think I vlog that made it look like a movie

I have that like that shirt on and I remember the picture that I took I could see it like a big ass champagne bottle and we're just in the underground on the other side, not the side when you turn right, the far side. Yeah. You still like to see it.

That was the last time I see World Drug. I feel like I didn't get to experience the, like people ask, Manny, what did you like better, Chicago or Dallas? But like, Dallas, I feel like I've explored. Like I've been. Dallas is kind of, I think it's way more lit than Chicago. You think? City-wise.

More lit than Chicago? Hell yeah. Dallas is kind of like, uh, yeah, bro. I'm telling you. See, but I don't remember the Chicago, like, night life. Like we would go down occasionally, maybe like late on a weekend, but it's like, I'm drunk and we just pull up and we walk out of the car and go into the club.

Like I never walked around. I never like explored. Never. I was always fucked up. Didn't really remember much. But it's like, I feel like I didn't get to explore Chicago. But people claim it to be like the best city in the world besides the weather. And it's just like, is that true? Chicago? Chicago's dope. I mean, besides certain areas.

I've heard the opposite. I like it better than Dallas. I think Dallas is like going out wise. It's more. What makes it better though? If it's not like a night of lot of thing. Dallas is just spacious. Like,

everywhere you go, like it's not a shit show. There's a lot of space. It's a less of a shit show. And I mean, it's still the same shit, but it's like all like you said, big area controlled space.

I feel like Dallas also isn't as touristy. Like Chicago is like kind of a tourist city. Yeah. You know like the bean and everything like I guess and like Sears Tower. I mean like Chicago, New York, L.A. are probably like the three tourist most touristy cities, right? Yeah, you might. I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Lard is probably in there. Miami maybe. Miami, yeah. But yeah, I feel like Dallas, like who's coming to Dallas to come to Dallas? But there's a lot of like. No one's coming to Dallas. I'd be a cowboy fan and that's about it. I wonder if people.

That's in Arlington. That's not even here. If people from like, I wonder. people from like L.A. or I guess just any city if they come to Texas or are they coming to Dallas or they go into Austin. The way I look at it probably Austin or Houston, right? It's like, all right, well, we didn't really go out that much of Chicago, but we've been out. You know how in some cities you'll be like, all right, like you go out, you might run

into like athletes or something, but you go out here, like everywhere there's like normal people, but this is what they do. You get what I'm trying to say? Like, this is their like, like you're not going to, you're going to run into a whole. whole lot of different people going out here than Chicago. I get you. You're probably running to like, you know, a guy that owns this or this, but he's like there every week. I don't know how to explain it.

It's just like they have like a lifestyle. It's more of a lifestyle around here. Yeah. For certain people. Yeah. Yes. Well, we also don't go to the club here. Yeah, we don't.

We never go to the club here. And there's only like two clubs we've ever been to, at least me. Bottled and. Bottled, which we can't go. to anymore. What happened? It's just Deep Ellum scary now. Deep Ellum's scary.

Yeah, yeah. Bottle is good. Once you go down that little hill right there. Yeah, bottle's fine. I mean, right outside of bottle. And then. Deep Ellum's a little sketch. And then concrete.

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It is. Okay. Yeah. The concrete down here, I think it closed, but it was like a total opposite from the one. From the first go one? Yes. Like a. Right off of it?

No, that yes. Like opposite. I feel like there's more bars in Texas than there was in Chicago. But maybe that was just the... Texas is definitely a... I guess it is more of the lifestyle over here. Because people... It's a day drink thing every weekend now at this point.

In Chicago. Like, especially when the weather warms up over here. Oh, wow. Yeah. People are drinking every day of the week here. There's like bars everywhere. There's like bars with... Yeah, literally.

Bars with no kitchens, like a lot. Like, I've seen those. lot around here and in Austin especially because like oh yeah bars with no kitchens are whack i agree like i need some french fraud they give you like some nuts at least ever since i got older closed at 10 when i would go like why would you have the barbie up until three close a kitchen at 10 like that's true yeah you were definitely missing out when i was younger i was more okay with going to like a bar without food and shit and just go there to like rage now it's like i don't really want to go there to rage you want to go there to like chill and watch a game and get food you know i don't

I don't really like the... Getting old. Huh? You're getting old. Well, I don't really like the, like, just going out to get shit-faced bars. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'd rather have something to, like, watch or... And still get shit-faced, but...

Yeah. A different way of doing it. I don't understand how people do that all that time. Like, when I go out, I enjoy... If it's worth it, I mean, actually, I kind of did that last year. To where I was going out all the time, day drinking. I would just come down here, walk around, bar. to bar to bar.

Dude, I can't do that. Yeah, I couldn't. But like, it got old so quick. It got old after like three months. Like, I did it for the summer. And then after it was just like, dude, this is just, I'm getting nothing done. Oh. And I don't know how people do this all the time.

Well, I'll go ahead. I'm sorry. People, just people's entire life is just like, it's kind of like the work. And then the only fun they have or any free time they have is just like dedicated to drinking. are like getting fucked up. They gotta be bots. That shit, towards me.

They gotta be no lie. Like, I've been, actually, it's crazy you said that. Because I've been dying, like, I'm tired of looking at my, you guys are out drinking on a Monday, a Tuesday? How do you even have the taste for alcohol? My shit don't kick until maybe Friday. Maybe. Or like, how do they do that and not just feel so, I feel so physically, of course,

like I'll feel like a little shitty, but I feel like it messes me up mentally. I mean, some people, I'm depressed. I watch TikToks of like dogs and shit. I'm like crying. Like it just fucks up. It just fucks up my brain chemistry. I like can't. I've just learned that I can't do it like that.

In like my college, like in college days like people would drink every night and then be up for 8 a.m. classes. Yeah, that's insane. Every night. And like some people just kept that mentality and just keep it going.

They're like I work my 9 to 5 and at six. Like where are the shots at? It's like I get it though. Because that's their life. That's kind of cool. I wouldn't say cool, but it's kind of a thing when you're that age. Like,

I was down to get fucked up at any point. I mean, I didn't go to a college to have, like, the college parties and stuff. I went to community college, barely showed up, uh,

and then dropped out. But at that age, it's like, it's kind of all there is, school and then, and then it's like the prime drinking time of your life. You walk in and you're like, where the bitch is at?

and then there are no bitches so you drink there's bitches you're just like not gonna get any you're not gonna get any bitch yeah but i was gonna say did you guys see that new uh place that i guess it's like a concept right now but it's called like jump shot and it's like a basketball place like top golf have you guys seen that uh-huh it's called a soccer thing here oh there is a i heard about the soccer thing yeah i don't know if it's like a legitimate business venture but yeah it's called like jump shot it's like top golf for basketball for basketball which I thought was pretty cool. They showed like the concept art

and it's like a bunch of bays of like half court like basketball hoops and then I'm assuming you can drink. So you just walk up and take a few shots. Yeah, just shoot around and maybe have a drink. I'm sure there's TVs in there. That sounds fun. It does sound fun, right? If it's not a business danger, we might have to get on that. That's true. That's true. But I think

I think it probably was because there was like concept art like the whole nine yards. So I think that it actually was like a real thing. I think I heard something about that. with soccer too. It would be serious. And there's soccer. I hurt, like vaguely remember it.

I'm almost positive. It's supposed to be opening soon. Really? Yeah. Penalty kick? Something like, I don't know. It's basically,

yeah, it's a top golf versus soccer. Yeah, it's basically soccer, but top golf. Which sounds fun. People are hype as fuck for it. Yeah,

but I feel like. There'll be a lot of injuries there. I was about to say. People trying to be drunkenly kick a soccer ball as hard as they can. They're going to, yeah, it's going to be a lot different. Because in golf,

you just stand there hit the ball. But like a mat, like it doesn't matter how fucked up you. I guess it does because you can like fall and stuff. I feel like just moving hurts anymore at this age. Like I hurt myself at that optic basketball video we did at the event. I hurt myself. Well afterwards. Afterwards when I was like trying to dunk, you did literally my hip is still fucked up. He didn't stretch and he immediately started throwing up half court shots and then tried to try to dunk for 15 minutes. Yeah. And like my My hips fucked up. You've got to move.

Everything hurts now. That should be the title. Everything hurts. Everything hurts. Not that. Now. The trampoline video? Okay, I can't follow that claim for.

So have you guys heard anything about this phase? The phase stuff going on? Yeah. Yeah, actually, I watched Tico's video the other day when I was in the shower. Just like to listen to it. It was more like a podcast. These motherfuckers are so hype. Like, okay, maybe they're not hype.

But it's like I know all of them are going to. be like this is like an easy not an easy way to get popping again but it's like they're going to get views off this they're going to start uploading again off this i already see it coming you think so i would i mean i mean yeah they're going to keep it i say i would but it'd be obviously they're talking about this fucking terrible situation i don't know exactly what's going on it's very very very reminiscent of what we went through yeah that's what i mean it sounds like random people are being held over someone who's been there for X amount of time. And in the business life, it might be right.

And his morals, the way he sees things, how a normal person does, it's fucked up. Yeah. It just, it's just like these guys built phase. And then they needed investment in order to keep phase running at that highest level. I'm on Tico side, by the way. Yeah, same. I mean, I think we... I'll always be...

Henry will always be on their side. Yeah. Because it makes sense. It's like, you know, I dedicate my whole life to this brand. And, you know, now they're making all these decisions and they're kind of boxing out a lot of people that help build a brand is what it feels like. Or at least that's what it seems like. I haven't watched the Tico video. I've seen clips of the Rain podcast.

And everything that Rain said kind of makes sense. but also it's kind of what everybody's been saying with e-sports lately in general is like there's a lot of people that are throwing a lot of money at seemingly the wall in order to build these e-sports teams with no sense of like culture and how to get that back that's what's scary they kind of do this shit with like no vision right right that's what it seems like yeah like they're just like fuck it like i mean we're going to do whatever we hope yeah exactly not like on the phase, not speaking on phase, but like in general, a lot of orgs. Yeah, yeah. Esports teams, it seems like they get a lot of cash and they're just like,

and they throw it somewhere. Well, it seems like esports teams right now are leaning like more heavily towards the e-sports side of things, which is, which is great. But esports like aren't even the most profitable, profitable part of esports. It's like content creation has always been number one. And it's not like a traditional sports league where you come in and you, you, you just instantly make money because the league is already there and the infrastructure's there. It's like you kind of have to build something for yourself and that is done through content. And I mean, it's not like phase doesn't do content. Don't get me wrong.

Maybe not as much as they were doing in the past with like their team houses and stuff. I mean, even us, we don't have the team house anymore, but we still try to do like content collectively and push that out. I think it always comes. I think that the creators and the audience is always going to tell. when shit is forced. And like content, content is like when you're making a shit ton of videos because it's, you know,

done to meet certain things or because like you have another round of investment. You got Snoop Dog and Snoop Dogg's son and now you have to make new content. Like people are kind of going to see through that, especially the creators that help build everything because they're going to get weirded out. And then now you got like now they're not involved in the videos and now you got these new content creators that are on the org that they're taking over all the deliverables and it's just like it's very similar to what happened with us um but i'm i'm hoping that uh i'm hoping that that can i don't i don't even know where you go from here i don't know the inner workings of the of the

issues but uh i i always want phase to be healthy yeah same like it's like the yin and yang thing you know like optic verse phase is or optic and phase not always verse but optic and phase is just like two sides of the coin is what it feels like to me so I wonder if phase is big in like Fortnite and shit I mean who do they have Nate?

Nate I mean Nate yeah Nate Hill Do they still have Mongrel? I know they had Mongrel for a bit I don't know if he's still there I don't I'm not sure going on over there They always have dope shit going on I don't know. As far as like collabs.

I see too many collabs though. It like makes them not special. They're what they? Oh, they just did one with Nike. Right? I feel like. I think so. They've done every collab.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's the scary part. I think that's what Rain is talking about. But then then again, like if if the business side, if the people who invested in there are like, how do we make our money back? Let's do collabs and collabs are doing well.

Then they're like, let's just do a lot of these. Yeah. I see both sides. And then it becomes uncool and then it's on to the next. I remember the first time I saw the phase, the neon Mickey Mouse. And it was like phased out and they were doing a collab with Disney. Yeah. And I was like, I should be super excited about that.

But they just did a DC one. And then two months before that was the optic phase collab. And then two months before that was like optic or was phase Fortnite. And I was like, dude, they're doing, they're doing so many. I feel like it. Like if they would have. If Faze had never done a collab and then they collab with Disney, it would have been like, holy shit.

That's fucking Disney. But like, that's not how it happened. What makes the, like, everyone talks about their stock plummeting. Like, what makes that plummet? This is a Seth question. I don't know. Sorry? I don't know shit about it.

What's like making their stock plummet? You're asking me that question? What if I look like? You're the smart one here. Wait, should we call Will? Will? Will. Will would know.

The market. The market share is just down. I mean, it trades at a price. Obviously, there's supply demand. And if the stock is... I don't get. If the stock is... He was just talking under his breath.

I don't... I mean, if the stock is valued at a dollar and there's X amount of shares in the market, then that's what the market cap is. Doesn't mean people just ain't fucking with phase like that? Well, I mean, just they went public. And public, you get... All the public can see your finance.

and what's coming and what's going out and they obviously see all the turmoil that's going on with their creators and people are just selling, selling, selling. And if you keep selling and nobody wants to buy and then your price is just going to keep dropping. I think what, I think the biggest shock to everything, since everyone can see their finances, right now,

at least, Matt, correct me if I'm wrong, but the the title of all the articles is Faze is like projected to run out of money by November. and then they're in the exact same situation we were in and then do they come in and they buy it back for a cheaper price again and then try to rejuvenate it do you think phase they could but like all of those guys have to be on the same page that's the thing is like

and it doesn't come on guys like i think i think they all popped off to individually to even yeah real shit i think they all popped up popped off and became too popular got too much money individually to where it's like they don't there's no need to stick together. They're like we don't, I don't. I feel like if we weren't on the same day. They're like, we, I don't even need phase.

I think that's why this situation was so unique. It's because Hector was like, yo, I can get it back. And we were all like, let's go. Yeah. Like none of us were like, I wasn't like, you know, well, I have an opportunity over here. I was like, wait, there's a chance.

Yeah, right. Yeah. We were all like that. Yeah. But like, if there's an opportunity where like, you just think about our timeline. If that goes differently, where the fuck are all of us?

What are we doing right now? I was on a mortals. I was on Immortals, Mutineers. Damn, where would I be? You were on the Mutineers. I forgot about that. He was on fucking Florida. I know.

That's insane. It was bad. Even before the energy thing. I wonder if I'd be corporate by now. But the question, the thing is, what if that would have made me just go hard as shit somewhere? I'm corporate. I'm a CEO. I'm BTAH.

Just won the event. Did you just back? Backwards. Everything where. Everything. coming together this shit coming together just boxed me oh my shit this should you never know yeah but um i mean that's what like who knows if if they're all even on the same page because we i don't think so we hear it from tico we hear it from rain but like who banks and temper been really

quiet because i feel like banks is doing it's fucking i don't know what uh banks is doing he been doing him Yeah. It's like, I don't, is he even involved with them? I saw, I saw TMZ stop banks on the side of the head. Did you see that?

Asking about the videos. Yeah. Like, if TMZ is stopping you, like, but I'm, I'm actually surprised like we haven't heard from them.

Because you'd think, like, they'd want to try to put these fires out and maybe they're doing that internally, but like, this is not good. When Tico and Rain are doing this, it is so.

A million of you, views. They're just, and they're just, they're just destroying their faith's name. That they just don't fuck with. So it's like they don't even want to come save it. Unless it was like, guys come back, save this shit and you'll get. Nobody in corporate fucking paid beyond belief. You can't stop them together. What are you going to staple their mouth shut? That's what I'm saying. Like they're even with like they have too much pull.

Banks never do. Banks in those corporate meetings is is not changing. I've been in one with him and he, one of the. Questions he asked was, you know, how fast could we, it was for the optic phase collab. And he's in the meeting goes, how fast could we wrap a jet? And I was like, wrap a jet. Rap a jet? He was like, we got to be able to like do this for like 50K. And I was like, no.

I mean, that's the least of the world. What happens when you. What happens after you wrap it? He was like, here we go. We go from LA. We get all of our guys on a PJ. We wrap the jet. Have someone else pay for it.

Then that's the marketing for. the Optic phase collab and i was like yeah man this sounds good this is just exactly what we always do is we always think about rapping jets that's what we do over here at optic we always think that we would have been like anyone want to rap a nisson rap yeah we wrap a new song we wrap nissons we got nons we're gtr i think it was a nisson altip or yeah hell yeah i mean the same difference they did they did no that's sure we got them that was fun uh the van was for everyone and then who drove the little car Oh, you did?

That was me. You came out with a car? For like five months. But like anyone could like if you ask Davis like, yo, Davis could I, you know. Nobody wanted the little. Well, I mean, everyone had their own fucking car. Everyone had their own car.

His Jeep was fucking three miles away from shutting down. It was. I donated it. That's how bad it was. I mean, it's great you donated it. But like, no, it's gone. That was a legend. Yeah, imagine it for you.

It's such a legendary Jeep. Or if it was like, I don't know, in a storage. You could have fixed it up, got it right, and just put it somewhere. Yeah, have optic put like 100K into it, just completely revamp it just to still say it's the hitch. Yeah, we don't rap jets. We rebuild this Jeep that's falling the fuck apart. Dude, I'll never forget when we left Chicago to come down here, I went and got the break. Remember how we used to break it?

would go I don't remember I thought I like squeaked or something no it was it was like the car would shake yeah yeah I remember the shake the shakes so I went and got it like got the brakes and everything fixed before we came down here

and the guy the mechanic that was working on it came out and said are you are you Robert and I was like yeah and he was like come with me and he took me into the mechanic shop and the car the the Jeep was raised up and he had the the the tires off. And he's like, you see that break pad right there?

I was like, yeah. He was like, that's how it's supposed to look. And they took me to the other side. And he was like, that's what yours looks like. And it was like, it was supposed to be like this thick. It was like here. And he was like, you're, I believe it. He was like, you were one, like, you were one like break slam away from your brakes failing.

Damn. And I'll never forget that shit. Remember the, I'll never forget it. He was like, he was like, if you had to brought it in here, like, who knows what could happened to you. Jeez. And I was like, thank you,

sir. I will make sure to always get my... Yeah, he had to like check you real quick. Yeah, he did. No,

he dead ass like probably, I mean, I'll never forget it. So it's something I'll... That's for future reference. That's for future reference. If your car is shaking uncontrollably when you're hitting the brakes,

might want to bring it in somewhere. Remember when you had to drive 13 hours at 80 miles per hour shaking the whole fucking trip? That's insane. From Chicago to Dallas. That's like some mad Mac shit. I used to do.

that trip and like I was in front of you in Hex's car and I was like yeah just like we'll just ride it down together let me get you travel away I was on I was on 90 MGs just one one going at least 130 the whole time Aaron Creach just holding on Aaron was sex to me like bro

I don't think I've blinked this whole try they they dude I'm I drove down in 13 hours they made it in nine it's probably like 10 that's how fast they were going it was 1 30 was

like the, I mean, I was, you get pulled over for, it was, I'm locked. I'm just locked in, like, I think, wait, did I get pulled over? I think I got pulled over on the way down here. Like, I'm eyeing for cops the whole time. I felt like I was in like a video game.

Oh, Mike did, yeah. Mike did. We thought we were leaving at 8 a.m. and we ended up leaving that night at 9 p.m. And we were just like, let's just do the whole, let's just do it. Let's just do it around the, like, like, the whole night. I was depressed when we left. I was depressed when I was depressed when I,

pulled up in the apartment. Oh, bro. I remember. Nick texted me and said, you can't wait for you to get here. I remember pulling up. And like what, like sarcastically? And I was like, oh, God. At the.

The Emerson? It was called the Emerson. It was like rape. It's next to 54th. Right? Yeah. That place. But like when we moved in, it was like,

shit wasn't really built like that around there. It was a pretty empty. It was not built up. It was like an empty. Was that shopping like center there? Yeah, it was there, but like every, like, you know how there was like a lifetime there? There's like another apartment building and there's something else.

That shit wasn't there. It was just one of, wasn't there? No. But it was. Or is it L.A.? No, the L.A. was there, but there's a huge lifetime there now.

Oh, really? I haven't seen that. There was, um, just one apartment building surrounded by dirt and like tall ass grass. And I remember just like when we were talking about moving down here, like, We always joke about this, but they said, like, we're going to move to Dallas overlooking the city and shit.

And then it turned into, all right, we're not going to be in the city of Dallas. We're going to be in Frisco, but you guys are going to live at this place. It's nice as fuck. Like, in Frisco Square. Yeah. Like, it's going to be optic square. But then a few days before that, before we move, they're like, oh, we're not actually going to be living there.

You guys are staying here. It's right beside it. Everything's in walking distance. And then when we drove down here, it's. and pulled up, pulled up to the, the apartment. And I just see dirt, high-ass, tall grass. And I just pull in like, damn. Was it hot or was it like during the winter of Texas?

No, it was during the winter. It was in December, but I think it was like 90 degrees. No, it was not. Bro, we moved down here. I remember moving down here and having like my shirt off on my balcony. What? Maybe not the first few days. Well, you also were coming from Chicago, so like anything felt warm.

Just 52 degrees. And I was just, I remember. December when we lived when we first lived here I was walking around and it was colder here than it was in Chicago and I was like I swear I swear it was hot like I moved down it and I was like dude it's crazy bro just thinking about that time that time was dude I was I was a different you were 2018 I was a different person like a whole different person it was because I thinking about it makes me depressed like I could see all the shit that was coming like two months down the line and then

And so I was depressed two months earlier before everyone else was. I was like, bro, I'm telling you. They don't know what they're doing. I'm telling you. Like that, like, thank God we moved into the house together after that. Because like, now I love living on my own. Like, I love it. But like, after that first apartment, I was like, dude, I don't know if I can do this, bro.

No love. What should we call that house? I always call it the fake optic house. Yeah, I just say fake scuff house. The rehab house. Yeah, really one. We were like rehabilitating ourselves. We were like all needed everyone to come out of

I remember I remember thinking it was like gonna be cool as fuck all living us All of us living in the same apartment Like I'm like thinking like we're gonna be hanging out We're gonna be by the pool We're gonna be outside drinking smoking Have a good time at the pool It's gonna be summer

It's gonna be hot none of that happened We didn't see each other Nobody no one hung out I just think we were too old I think we had lived the scuff house And so we were out of scuff house but then we were like kind of brought back into a house and like I had just gotten out of relationship you had just gotten into a relationship and you were like going through shit and then like

will had started green wall street so he was like tapped and then Aaron had moved in but Aaron moved in with with Nina and his cats like everything was like I live with Aaron and hardly saw him yeah but I was I'm in my room and he's in his room 24 so that's what that's what I'm saying there's hardly even saw each other we just thought that i feel like that was such a forced house but like i think it did good for us because it was just like man what what just happened for a year like we all lived alone we all lived alone but like nothing worked i don't know that's just how house wasn't and then Seth was living it was that when you were in l.a still uh was it i think you were when did you live here i think you lived in l.a i think i moved here in october of 20

2018, I want to say. Maybe you had just moved down here. Yeah, I think it was like October 2018. And then I lived with Hector for like, because it was in B-O-4. I lived with Hector for like six months. Damn. Because they were still building my house.

Yeah, it was B-O-4. So you were still living with Hector while we were all living together. That was a crazy time. Yeah, that's weird. Dude, everyone went through a crazy time. I know, but like tweeting about him living with Hex, like. He could just get an apartment.

Well, my house was being built, so I don't want to waste the money. So I lived with hex and I would stream from the hex quarters every day. And it was like, it was so weird because I would, I would, I'd wake up in Hector's, get ready and shit, go to the hex quarters. I'd be there all day until like 3 a.m. and then go to Hector's try to sneak in the sneak in every day because of the dogs. I never got by him without sneaking in. Because I just, boom, br-br-br-oh. I called it the orchestra. because at like 3 a.m. It was just,

and I felt bad every day, but I was streaming. Those days were crazy because Seth's on the opposite side of the hex quarters and I'm on the other side and it's just me and him and Matt every night.

And it's just like, he's screaming, I'm screaming, but like nowadays. We're almost losing his mind. But Matt wasn't even, Matt didn't even live here. Yeah, he moved to here. Oh, you're saying Matt Craig.

Matt Craig, it was just Matt Craig, yeah, Matt Craig was there. Yeah. Late night. too. Late night. Grinding. Just working on Hector's vlogs. Just because that was before,

I think that was, yeah, it was before you were doing optic stuff. Dude, those days. And so all that to be said, we hope that phase figures of stuff out. If it, it's not impossible to buy it back.

It's already been done by one org in this industry. So you guys can do it too. History often repeat itself. Yeah. But if not, I mean, if they did all return, that shit would pop.

Like if they somehow figured out I just don't see them doing something like this Like I don't see them showing up to an office And like doing a podcast, random videos Whatever the hell else we do I mean Like I don't see them doing it

They're like I just don't see them doing it I would like to see it It would blow the fuck up Yeah But I think individually they just have like They're like all right no I'm successful over here

I don't want to come save phase Well the thing is With these fuckers who But just because they buy it back, just because they, if it's even a possibility to buy it back, doesn't mean they're going to do what we did. Hector bought it back and then, you know, we got this opportunity and now we have e-sports teams and we do this. But Hector could have bought it back and then just, he always said, I'm going to buy it back and let it sit on my shelf. Yeah, he did say that.

That's, it's opt. It's mine. So they could do that. They could fucking buy it back and then it's just their phase whatever and they just do what they used to do. They don't have to have a Counterstrike team and a Valerite team and a League of Legends team. They don't have to do all that. You don't need it. It's like you can just make

content. Yeah. You think this you think the side... Could just be a content team. You think Beta Squad? You think Beta Squad is getting a League of Legends team? No murder. Yeah. Don't put that. Stop putting gems out there. Beta Squad and sidemen aren't going to get a Valerant team.

Like they just make content. And that's what Faze originally was. They played sniper. They played with a sniper rifle and then they made content. Anyway, that's going to do it for us today. Thank you so much for watching. Episode 116. We will be back for 117.

And we get something extra special for you that, that episode. Yeah. So you got to watch. You got to watch the whole thing of this one. Yeah. In order to find out what that one is. Yeah. You got to click on that one and this one.

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