OpTic Podcast - HECZ ANNOUNCES HIS RETIREMENT 😢 | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 99

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

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But I remember playing basketball with my friends, like, outside for the last time and being... It's almost like I could tell. They would bug me to hang out, or especially, like, my best friend would bug me to hang out. And I'd be like, man, like, I don't want to... Nothing against you. It's like, I don't want to hang out. I just want to play Hela. Like, that's all I wanted to do.

Dude, that's actually crazy to think about. So I just got forced outside played with him. I was like, this will be my last time. This... Dapped him up. And in my head, I was like, it was good knowing. Welcome. Welcome, welcome to episode number 99.

One away from the 100th episode of the Optic Podcast. Wow. This video is presented by Elgado and the new Elgado Wave DX microphone. 99 bucks, super affordable. And it's got the XLR quality that you would expect from something good. And we are speaking into them right now. In fact, later on this year, I designed one of the. these, I put my artwork on one of these and is being sold to the masses.

It's going to be a limited amount, obviously, because it's my artwork. So obviously I can't just have unlimited, right? It's going to be some value to it. Speaking of artwork, I'm trying to convince Hax to, tell me if this is whack. If Hacks drew maniac in graffiti and I got it tattooed somewhere. Is that whack? I think it's cool. I mean, I got bows down me.

I think that's whack. Why? On my upper, on my upper back, like, snakedown. I have bows. Are you saying writing? Or a picture? I mean, writing.

Oh, like, okay, I thought that his, he, I was picturing like the cartoons

that you see like, like, um, like six flags of people that draw like the like the giant

no, that's what's like, yeah, yeah, just the letters, maniac and his weird graffiti. It's not weird graffiti.

Secondly, uh, what does this say? I don't have been, uh, it's just mania. Nah. Hey,

uh, if you went, but hacks won't do it. If you went shark fishing and you passed. the way. I would have a tattoo of you on me. Okay. Would you actually, though? I would.

100%. If someone in Optic dies, do we all get their tattoo? Who's going to be the first death? Who's going to be the first death? Who's going to be... No, it's going to be something weird. But just know that... I say we do talk about it. The thing is, is like, this is what would happen?

You would get all the props in the world that you were supposed to get while you were alive. It's just the way that it works. You know what I'm saying? That's just the way that it works. No one's going to give you your flowers until you're underground. That's why it's called giving flowers. Maybe I kind of want to see it though.

Fake my death. Mm-hmm. And then like just, once I'm just fed up with fucking everything. I just move somewhere. Fake, fake my death. Living a cabin. Yeah. But it has one to five so you can read the Twitter responses.

I saw I'm TikTok and Twitter. So wait. Holy fuck. It's so weird. Nick just liked my post. He said. I like All the people

I'm like gift this up Like a random Like I'm just like stream is live You like it And it's like what the fuck You're like following You're like following to see where all your friends are going And you know that there's not even an MLG Anaheim

And you're just gonna be like One of the nights you put in a hoodie And then you just walk by And then you just don't say anything You just wrong by I said wait That guy looked like fucking Miss and Peace maniac man

That dude reminded me of him And it was same time The dude looked like maniac But way fatter You know people have fake their deaths before, especially on the internet, especially to get this sort of reaction. But do they come back? I wonder if there's a death out there that the dude really is alive.

They're like, no, confirmed dead. Like Tupac in Cuba? Yeah, but he's dead. You think? Yeah. I wonder if anyone famous, like Epstein. Is he actually dead? That's actually a good one.

Yeah. Because you can definitely set it up to be like, yeah. How do you think he died? Someone else would have killed him regardless. Kill himself. Why not? If you were in jail for the rest of your life and you know this guy tormented. Did he though?

The thing is, is that you can't even talk about that because all the dangerous stuff that can happen to you personally if you talk about it. True. Like on an optic podcast. Yeah, just in general. Like think about this, right? Like, what's her name? The lady?

His ex-wife? Maxine. Yeah, Maxine. Maxine? like she went to jail because she told them a bunch of people but those people aren't going to jail you know what I'm saying like it's you know I didn't say that this is what people are saying I don't believe of that I think you know you guys handled it perfectly and I support you I can't imagine how easy it be to make people when you're a multi-billionaire how and have that much power and connections and shit how easy it'd be to make to just get people whacked like there's got to be people out there who like like there's hit men who's like yeah yeah Give us 5.10K will kill your ex or something. But there's definitely people you pay like 100 grand to or like half a mill or a mill.

And they're like guaranteed. Get the job done. And you're safe. Like for sure. He's like you pay me in 10 years. Yeah. And he's been doing this for four decades. So it's just like he's.

Oh my God. Jesus. That has to definitely exist. I look over. I look over at Matt has a. all that pulled up already, all the conspiracies surrounding it. So, I don't know.

People have in the past done that. I just don't understand. I don't see the point in doing that. Here we go. These are the people that supposedly could be alive still. Celebrity's rumored to have faked their deaths. At the number one spot, we have Michael, Hee, Jackson.

We have Elvis. Well, Elvis ain't live. Presley. We have Tupac. Fitted at the cameraman. Shakur. Andy Koff. What's his sound?

Welcome to the me me me me I don't know I never heard of a notorious B-I-G What are you laughing Just thinking of The earlier thing

I don't think Do you think Biggie Smalls What fake they're not I'm just kidding Jimmy Hendrix I don't believe Like Jimmy Morrison

No Like the only one That I believe Is Pock I don't believe in Elvis I can see Mike Jack doing it I could see Mike Jack doing it.

That dude was fucking miserable. At least I would assume so. Fucking. Robin Williams, come on, man. That's a bad one. You commit a suicide. Who's that? Wait,

who's that right? Who's that redhead? I'm saying, Jenny, if it's going to be someone, it's going to be like... Delors Jenny Rivera was a Mexican-American actress. Wait, when did she pass away?

I know who she is. In 1992? No, she began recording in 92. Uh-uh. Alia? Alia? Prince Diana No

Wait is this Conspiracies or just celebrities that have died No Rumored to have faked her deaths Alea Yeah her plane crash Was it a plane crash? I thought she fell

It was a car crash No Just fucking jumped out of the plane Fucking parachuted away Say I don't know I don't know some of these people People were saying I think there was some conspiracy

About the offset shit Yeah But well there's no conspiracy i mean he's he's you know he he passed away um but they were talking what's that that those rappers what are they like amigos no no no no they're just like bodyguard no they're like a record label like a record label but like the dude's dad j prince junior his dad j prince is like just like a big dog like it's almost like a They can call shots.

Like if you were to like, let's just say you fucking rob a chain or something, they're going to get it back. They just have connections. People are scared of them. But I think they also have a record label and like artists and stuff. And I don't know. It's almost like the Shug Night of Houston,

except not sort of as degenerate. Yeah, well, let's, you know, if we don't know all the facts we shouldn't talk about it. But we have gone through so much in the last couple of weeks. Holy shit. Like, there's so much talk about. Obviously, shout out to the Dallas Fuel winning the Overwatch League champions this past one. You've been playing a lot of Overwatch.

How do you, is it fun? Is it fun? It's really fun. Is it the same? It looks the same to me. Yeah, it's, I mean, yeah, it's really fun. I mean, they're playing obviously way different. But the game is really fun.

They're really good. Like, yeah, they're sick. Do you ever watch or play overwatch? No. Before. So, or when did you start playing? Like a week ago. And they won like a week ago?

They won like a week ago. So did you, were you watching? Like, did you know what the hell was going on? Yeah. See, when I watch, I don't know what the fuck's going on. Even when I watched, like, I think Optic posted a clip of you. And I was like, I think he's getting kills and he's shitting. I'm not sure, though.

And then all the comments were like, holy shit, he could go pro. Oh, my God. Well, you don't think you can? No, I don't know if I can or not. I just know that I'm not that good yet. It's just, I don't take the gas, but it wasn't really worth. Yeah, I don't really, yeah. I went to one of the events in Arlington for Dallas Fuel.

And I just didn't really know what the fuck was going on. Yeah. Is it almost, I don't know. I don't even know what type of game it is. People say it's like a, almost like a league of legend. Yeah. Is that? No? No, not even. No, it's just a shooter. It's like a respawned Valer.

Okay. It's like a respawned Valorant. But don't you just like push lanes? No. Oh. You like you push objectives. I don't know what's going on. He pushed like objectives. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.

And each like hero has like two abilities in an ultimate. Just like Valerate. You like it though? Yeah, it's fun as fuck. Is it really fun? It's super fun. Yeah. I was playing that boxing game this weekend.

Which one? It's called Undisputed. It was a beta. That show was fire. That shit was. Yeah? It was realistic too. I'm surprised none of us got into like 2K or something.

I'm definitely going to play that boxing game. Are you? I'm not, last, last boxing game I played was some Sega Genesis shit. Yeah, right? Mike Tyson, fucking chucky cheese. Now, Mike Tyson Punch out. Shout out to Mike Tyson, that's legit. This new, this new stuff right here, this shit, like I can't get into it.

This is undisputed. Yeah. I can't get into it. or maybe i mean i'd give it a shot you'd get your ass beat i've played one of these games before you have for gamer score on xboxy 16 i would just want to play it's floyd mayweather do they have like pro boxers in this they only had yeah they only had like some

for the beta though this they so haven't gotten all the would you play do a certain thing to get the fighters yeah yeah the licensing stuff would you would you uh like you build your own character though right like and you go to career more i saw a few things on there they got a ranked mode where you obviously ranked they have obviously a private match where like if you're playing against someone you can invite them yeah and they have something else that was on there obviously they have a career yeah and all that um they have a whole bunch of different stadiums you could fight in like mGM all that shit random gyms um I thought it was pretty cool

I forgot what the other part of the menu was but it was fire that's cool yeah I don't know I can't get into any sports games personally. And I don't know if it's, I just, I just don't find, I just don't find the appeal in it. You know, when you play Call of Duty, you're taking control of a, of a soldier, and the soldier just becomes you. That's your identity.

But when you're playing this thing, you're playing as LeBron. There's already, LeBron already exists. So you playing as that dude just doesn't have the same sort of appeal in my opinion. Seriously. You know, like I'd want to play S-Hax playing ball. You know what I'm saying?

Like fast, handles, handles out of this world. Fast handles. Handles out of this world. What would your top, what would your, I don't know, what the fuck do you call it? Are you. A tribute. You're my attributes?

Attributes. I say I'm a good point card. So I would say my handles are above, above, let's call it full 100. Full 100 for the handles. Yeah. You never seen me? All right. All right.

Alan Arverson would be like 95. Okay. So I'll be like a 94 then. No, I'm kidding. Yes. passing obviously like you know I like to pass the rock I like to get the rock shoot the rock so when you played did you just control the team controlled the pace I only played you weren't like a score no I was but I didn't I didn't I played with

people that were like really good too though so like there was no need to control them everybody knew what their what their job was my boy my boy Eric thought he was like a power forward but he missed all his shots I'm kidding I know you the Kentucky shit I saw Luca play for her first time yeah yeah he's him He's the truth. Bro, you should not, you can't, it's illegal, and you shouldn't be able to move the way that that dude moves. At fucking six.

Yeah. Well, no. He's like six, not like that. He looks like he would move faster than what he does. He looks like he's just like going in slow mode. Like LeBron at his own pace on God. He's like literally plays at his own pace slow motion.

Yeah, it's slow mo. He just goes to the rim and scores. So smooth. So non-tural. Not the heart push off, just a real subtle, just. He just casually goes to the room. He's, yeah. 6-7.

Dude, that's fucking Bobat. Every tall person I've ever seen is like a goofy fuck. Like they're never coordinated. Bro, why they do my man Trey Young like that?

Why do they use that picture? Look at him. What the fuck? I watched some of his, I think, high school highlights. He was fucking nasty. Oh, he's still nasty.

He was his NBA. You guys seen that like seven-foot, fucking like seven-foot-eight prospect right now? Dude, you look this guy Oh, man This guy's an alien, bro He's an alien What?

He This guy's insane It's hard to pronounce I forget what he was Bro, I would say Just type in like NBA prospect Yeah, that's him, that's him What's his name?

Victor Wimbayneema How tall Wimbaniama Dude, he's like seven foot He can move like a 6'4 person I swear to God Look at it He was like a 64 watch

And look at his handle good dude and so weird he's fucking alien you can that salt that shit out of here wait where is he playing I don't know

go to type it in on copy and paste his name on Twitter Matt look at the recent clip of him shooting at three on YouTube it's probably on Twitter but it might be on YouTube dude like

look who's highlights just type highlights yeah go to the second one I think it might be that clip no this is fake no it's real look at it looking at towing with him yep

dude how water what the hell you say water you can't you fucking guard that you don't lay up literally impossible to guard how tall is he really

google it I think he's 7. I just saw a 711 there's no one no 7 2 oh wait 7 foot 8 7 8 that's fucking 7 foot 8

I mean I was about to he looked like almost fucking like a yow wasn't yau ming like 7 4 Yeah, I think he's the tall sever I think Shaq was like, no, Yao Ming was fucking taller than what it was listed. Fucking Yao Ming, oh my God. I saw a bowl ball ball.

Yeah, I was about to believe like a seven ball, yeah. Wait, where did you go? What is, uh, isn't Kevin Durant like 7-1? 7-9, 6-11? Ming, Song-Ming. 7-9, Jesus. Yal Ming 7-6. God damn.

7-6. Bro. But at that point, like, yeah, you're going to have some, like, you're going to have like, you're going to have some. Seven nine? You'd be hitting your head on the ceiling. Seven, nine, like you're gonna have some back problems. Yeah, he was an NBA player that was seven nine.

Bro, that's Kobe. The, the... I would just stay far to plug away from Yao Ming if I was when. Damn, he's taller than Shaq, bro. We stood next to Shaq. Remember that? Yeah. Bro, he is like a human.

I was up to his dick. What is, on the, on the, on the, golf course left bottom left yeah who's that what the fuck and that dude's probably like six three hey Jesus dude look at look at his calves dude this guy y'all made so sick of this shit he's like getting a picture the dude's like whoa he's like he wasn't even laughing here we go fucking again dude just like you can't like where do you how do you travel you got a you got to have uh oh god custom shit that is story of about Will Chamberlain spitting on someone in an elevator.

No. Because they were like, what's the weather like up there? You just halt to lose? Raining. Dang. It was an NBA player told that story. Said he was like, I think, in the elevator with Will, and he did that to someone. Spit on him because they were, what's the weather like up there?

Spit on him and said raining. Damn. That's so fucked. My favorite clip is when Kyrie's leaving his home is like, Kari, where is LeBron? And the car, he's like, suck my dick. It was like, God damn. Well, NBA players, they probably hear so much shit every night.

Just think about what you hear on Twitter. And I imagine that amplified. In the way game? Like, dude. In a way playoff game? Like, dude. That's what I'm saying. Like, video game players could not play in the NBA because they'd be like,

my feelings are hurt because of what you said. Both teams should win. I bet you someone like Luca doesn't get crazy shit yelled at him now. Well, yeah. Someone like Luca? No, I mean, if you're likable, you're likeable. That's the way you care. But there are diehards.

Like, what the fuck is about it? Gary V. Gary V., for example? Like, he hates God. I mean, Jordan. You know what I mean? Like, he literally hates him. Like, he says, fuck Michael and shit.

Like, he'll never. Yeah, why? Because he's a Knicks guy. And the Knicks got the asses beat all through the 90s. And Gary, you know, as wise as he is, he just doesn't, when it comes to sports, he's just a little bit too diehard. You know what I mean? Like, if I wasn't a fan of the Bulls during the 90s,

let's say I was a Knicks fan or a Yankees fan, or what do you call it, a Utah Jazz fan, I'd be like, you know what? Michael Jordan is the best and we suck. That's why I'd be okay with it. Who else do you like besides the Bulls? Anyone? In basketball?

I mean, I kind of have to like. Besides Jordan, who did you like? I don't think I've ever heard you mention another player. Barkley, like anybody from the 90s was like a big deal to me. Was magic that good? Magic Johnson? I'm tired of hearing him in the top five. The only reason I don't like Magic Johnson

because that was my dad's guy. And when I said, I'm like, Jordan's the best. He's like, no, magic's the best. And I was like, that's so often from the old heads. Who? I mean, from the older generation. Old heads is good. But they would all like hearing like magic in top five.

Yeah. Wasn't he like, he was like a six foot eight point guard. Yeah. Insane. Like how? And he got all the others. I guess back then that probably was fucking insane. There's only one person.

He's so good. He beat eight. That might have brought him in top five. Legendary. That's a good point. Legendary. David Robinson, the ad was the admiral, the postman, post Malone, Karl Malone.

Wait, what is this? This is the top players in the 90s. God. Jordan 3, fair. Who the fuck? What? Who is this, man? Why the fuck would you show this?

Literally makes sense. Who's number one? He's the thumbnail, but he's the number one. Outstanding player. Jordan appeared several times. That was like the fifth time he appeared way down there. 30. Nick Anderson, I remember him.

Kevin Johnson. I think LeBron's finally reaching his Michael Jordan Wizards form. Grand Hill. Shout out Grand Hill. Dope-ass Files. Charles Oakley, of course. Rod Strickland. Guarantee you made him jump like Rod Strickland.

No, no, no. De Kimby gone. Is that the dude? Yeah. Tombo. Sean Kemp? Rain Man Dennis

Denny Dennis Rodman I only know Matumbo from a battle rapper Chris Malin legend I met him in person Legend

Dan Marley threes Yeah he would see Like Dan Marley would have made Patrick Ewan He would blow the fuck out of you Shaq

Big shirt I have his rookie card Tim Hardaway Shout out to his son Who used to play For the Mavericks No He's just fucking no

Yeah not even more right Vladdy Divac Another pool keep going oh no that's not I had him confused with that's not Pagiaziochovic

what's his name oh my god I'm I'm just confused him Hershey Hawkins alright man let's Gary Payton the glove keep keep going

a little bit faster Gary and he got good weed you know what I'm saying Horace Grant shout out Horace Grant who's that Jeff Hornaceck

John Stockton John Stockton yeah John Stockton Reggie shout out Reggie Clyde Drexler Kike the Glyde Drexler

Hakeem the Dream Malajuan. I'm just kind of, you know what I'm saying? Scotty Pippen, hater. Charles Barkley, shout out him, Michael Jordan. Who the fuck? Two? Who's one number one? David Robinson. David Robinson. He was better than Michael. It's right there. Relax. Let's not even, I get it. Funny.

hilarious. Let's go. All right, man. I don't even know why you brought that up and why you would, you know, say that. I will say, though, since then, I haven't really kept up with any sports really the second that I started working on Optic I literally only cared about what optic I didn't care about the bulls the bears the socks never cared about the Cubs I like the Cubs until Jordan picked the socks

and I'm like okay I'm with Jordan I picked the socks so that's uh I guess that's how I am with LeBron um were you going? Yes the shit should we wait can't hold it

your stomach hurt himself what's I about to say something about LeBron Oh, the only thing I'll watch is a Laker game. It's like literally the only sports I'll watch. I watch Brooklyn. Ornitz. LeBrons fell into his, I think, Jordan on the wizard stage. Right now, you think?

It's fucking, I hate watching the Lakers. Wait, why? They anger me. Because, like, on paper, their team. Westbrook? That dude is. He really angers me. He is great.

Westbrook is one that I can get behind. I'm almost rooting. Like when he starts doing good, I'm like, I don't even, I start rooting for him. For who? For Westbro. Okay, why? But he's so fucking bad. No, he's not.

If he was on my team, I would rage. Why? Because he's just so, I don't know, I get anxiety when he has the ball. When he's in the game, I get anxious. Why? I don't. That's crazy. No.

He's not kept up with the Lakers. The past two seasons, he's so. I don't even want to say. He's so bad, but he's not bad at all. He's doing better now. He's doing better, and I'm like rooting for him. Look at it, bro. He's nasty.

Because I'm such a LeBron Stan and follower. Are you really? Sort of. I mean, it's just the only person I give a fuck about, I guess. And I just follow him from whatever team he's on. So like now it's like on paper that team seems so good. Who's the other guy? Tall guy, unibrow.

What's his name? Anthony Davis? Anthony Davis. His back problem He's always injured And sometimes I think like this guy's garbage Let me

I just know Every real basketball fan Heard me say all this shit right now It's like I will say this though It's not gonna Like I don't know why And don't hate me

For what you're gonna hate me But if you can't play ball Your opinion to me doesn't matter You know what I'm saying Like I don't care how great of an analyst you are If you can't shoot or dribble or play, I can't respect your opinion. If we bounce you a basketball and you obviously look kind of goofy, it's like can't really value your opinion. Yeah.

Like when I saw Pamont, when I saw a Rambo shoot for the first time, and he's Canadian, he's really good at hockey and golf and bowling. But when I saw him shoot, I was like, ugh. I was like, ugh. Some people just never play basketball. Yeah, no, I get that. I know what you mean because I feel like that way when like my test of people is like, I wish I can just throw them a baseball and see like how you throw the ball. And once they throw it weird, I'm like, God damn it.

Bro, I can't get, throwing a ball is like so natural. Right? So I'm like, if I see somebody that can't throw it or something just like, you know, who the fuck? Where'd you grow up? And I know, it's different times, right? The internet has, you know, whatever, but I don't know. Oh, this day.

Get mad at me for all you want. That's just, I'm, I'm 42, okay? Just give me the past that I'm an old dude. And I just have my, my, my, I'm stuck in my old ways. I can't even imagine when it's like kids nowadays. Like, because when I grew up, it's like, please let me on the fucking Xbox, maybe play split screen or some shit. Yeah. There wasn't even like Xbox Live sort of popped off a little later in my life.

So it's like all there really was to do was like sports or fucking just be outside doing something. Literally. But like nowadays, it's like kids have iPhones in their hand at six. Yeah. And it's like they just, I can't even imagine what they're, they probably ain't playing no fucking sports. Literally my last time, I remember my last time going out, like playing with my friends before I got on the game. It was literally the night before high school, we were playing Manhunt and it was time to go home. Like that was your last time.

I just remember like fucking bots. Like I can't wait. Like I'm out of here after this shit. After what? Like we're just playing Manhunt. It's like high school tomorrow. I know I'm going to meet new friends and shit. And I'm just like, guys don't get it.

Went home, never came back outside again. Damn. I kind of almost have a similar situation. Well, kind of sort of. But it was probably like, I mean, I was on the basketball team in 10th grade, but I never, ever played outside of practice because I was just, all I wanted to do was play Halo 2. But I remember playing basketball with my friends, like, outside for the last time and being. It's like, it's almost like I could tell. They would bug me to hang out, or especially, like, my best friend would bug me to hang out.

I'd be like, fuck, man. Like, I don't want to... Nothing against you. It's like, I don't want to hang out. I just want to play Halo. And, like, they didn't give... He didn't give a fuck about Halo or no one gave a fuck about Halo. But it was like, that's all I wanted to do.

Dude, that's actually crazy to think about. So I just got forced outside played with him. I was like, this will be my last time. This... Dapped him up. And in my head, I was like, it was good knowing. I just started playing Halo. Wait, do you have any friends from those days?

Like, high school friends or anything that you still, like, on a regular basis? Talk to, not really. But it's like, if I... If I go home, I could always be like, oh, I'm in town. And, like, we'd hang out or something. Like, that's what it usually happened during, like, Christmas. Yeah. I went to your hood.

Nobody knew you? Yeah. I mean, I'm obviously still friends with all my friends. So that's like, I always find it. I never talk to them. Yeah, you probably have the biggest friend group. Yeah, but you know what? In fairness, it's just our friend group.

Like, I don't know anybody else from our, I don't know anybody else with the same amount of friends that we've had. Yeah, you got. You have a pretty big group from back. At the end of high school, I was just so excluded because all I did was play Halo. So it was like all of my friends sort of did their own thing and that I was just in my box. It just makes me think. Like, I remember like, it would be like a weekend and I'm like coming out of my room from playing all night. About to go to like 7-Eleven or something.

Probably got, I got money because from the tournament. You were on gas stations back then too. Yeah. I was going to get a butter roll. Yeah. But here, like in Jersey, it'd be quick. You go to the gas station, get a butter roll. So, shh, out.

Yeah. They don't have butter rolls. What the fuck are those? You never had a buttered roll. No, we used to get honey buns. No, a buttered roll, like a roll, poppy seed butter on it. By itself? Yeah.

Was it like something you get out of a bag? Or get a bag. Or was it like fresh. The bagels not toasted, but like it's a bagel with cream cheese. It'll get you if you're hungry. What? Hell yeah. Dude, bagels in Jersey and New York are fucking so popular.

No, but. No one ate bagels. No, no, no. So we took, live to Nintendo Town or where the fuck called last year jude and i and i remember being like i remember going and i was just like this is like this is going to be a trip because we left at 5 a m in the morning and came back at 6 p.m in the afternoon it was a one-day trip went there for a birthday flew there yeah landed we went to the place we went to breakfast and we went to like we picked the rome jude

picked a random bagel spot uh somewhere and it was the best bagel too they said best bagel i've ever had in my life best it was it was a bacon egg and cheese oh my god They know how to do bagels over there. I need to get on pages fucking. Speaking of not bagels and something fucking healthy. I'm getting fat. You're getting up there. And Paige is dropping weight.

Page is on fire with their fucking diet. I'm just eating like shit every day. Eating bagels. I literally woke up at 5 a.m. ate a bagel with peanut butter and a protein shake. What's wrong with that? I just went back to bed. Who did?

You did? I don't know. Grab a fucking seat. Brod you have that fresh nikes. The what? Fresh nikes. Nikes? Let me see.

That's the same shit I was with. Them cooked-ass fucking Jordan once. All right, five, four, three, two. So, uh, formal, uh, you know, you winning champs and shit. Yeah. Uh, Matt, Matt, uh, Matt had to step away. He, he had the bubble guts. The blue, you don't feel too good.

Hey, so, I, listening to the podcast, the flycast, you, uh, you were saying that you've been a piece of shit. When I send you texts and DMs, like, do you ever take them seriously? Like, for example, I'm like, damn, you're being a piece of shit in and outside of work? Like, did that get you mad? I mean, not mad. It's like, at this point, it's like you. But so I just fucking, depending on my mood, I would, like, ignore it or fucking, I don't know,

say something back. Sometimes I, sometimes I'll call them. But sometimes I do like putting it in your head. It's like, I hope he. overthinks this. Me? And I hope he's like, damn,

that I hope he thinks he upset me. I mean, yeah. So just for the record, I'd never go back and say, I wonder if I hurt his feelings.

It's just not the way that I operate. No, he's overthinking. No. He's like, damn, he's probably, maybe something is up. Maybe I should reach out.

No, hell no. No, the only time I get worried is when no. It's on my mood if I just fucking ignore it. Yeah, no, fuck that. Because he'd be like, I'm being a piece of shit. I'm like, and I know he hadn't replied a page about showing up to do content. So I'm like, oh, shit.

So you're being a piece of shit in and outside of work, right? And I was just like, I have been being a piece of shit. Well, I guess I do think about it because I did, I mean, I brought it up. So I guess I do care. Fuck. Well, with my. With my. I don't know.

I just, I have to get shredded for once in my fucking life. and it's so hard. Right, you've been shredded. I'm not shredded. Not shredded. You're better. I look back at old picks and I'm like, I was really close. Like, if I just would have won't another, like, month and a half, I would have been there.

But you had to go to Mexico, didn't you? Mexico fucked up my life. Well, that's when you hurt your back, right? I did hurt my back, but it was like, at that point, it was like, I could still do. I could still do push-ups and shit. But at that point, it's just all diet, man. Like, if I should. If I shredded the fat off this, like, it'd be a good look.

I mean, I've actually been eating better, but like... And it fucks it with me mentally. Now I'm like, well, I can't go to this fucking snappy salads because I've been here six times this week. And they're fucking... They're like, iceberg, fucking black olives. You don't want to keep going to the same place. No.

Every day, it's like to a point where like, all right, bro. Like, you don't have food at all? No. No. I don't think anyone... I don't think anyone... Did you ever been grocery shopping? I don't think anyone thinks that.

Like Amazon shit? Yeah, I don't think anyone. Like Amazon fresh, it just comes. Roger's been getting a gut. We were talking about it the other day. I'm like, I'm like, I move to Texas twice. That's funny? Every time.

Bro, I move to Texas, gain 30 pounds. Move back to L.A. Lost it, moved back to Texas, gain 30 pounds again. It's the food out here. He just can't. I can't get away from it. There's just too much stuff that's, like, convenient around here. It's so convenient.

The only time I feel bad is when, like, live, Liv and Jude are both like, live will be like, Dad, you should try to eat more healthy. I want you around for a long time. What the fuck? Yeah, I was like, first of all, I'm gonna be around until I'm 103, right?

Because, you know, whatever. Secondly, do they eat healthy? Or are they like conscious of it? They both do, yeah. Like, Live specifically is like very, what the fuck? She's just lots of water and doesn't eat, like, eh.

Like she's, like conscious of not wanting to eat shit. Yeah, Jude, Jude eats so. fucking weird. Like so fucking weird. I don't even know how she enjoys life. Girls eat weird. Like Paige. She eats fucking snacks all day. Instead, I'm like, I can't snack all day. I have to

like be full as fuck from a meal. I get offended. When I see Paige's like lunch, what the fuck she's eating? I'm like, she'd be eating like a grape. She'll open like a baby pack of almonds and it's like, this breakfast. Like one grape. Like it's almost as insulting as Matt's lunch. It'll be like half of

orange. I went out to eat like to that Oishi spot and someone got a cucumber sushi roll I'm just like cucumber That's a bomb No It looked like fucking just If you get if you get sushi you might as well just enjoy it Like you're just eating bullshed like

They just stack bullshit there and you call it sushi Like you might as well get the real thing You might as well get the real thing Just there's rice there I don't know I don't know My My uh

Okay I will say I will say because of like my my gout I have gout gout if you guys don't know It was a uric acid buildup around the knuckle of your big toe, right? And I've had this thing for a long time. And I don't know when it started, but it definitely started doing a lot of fish. No, it's beef, beef and shrimp and alcohol is what they said. And the day that it started was the day that we moved into 60-50.

It was Merck, big-timer, Matt, and Seth. You can't eat beef, shrimp, or alcohol? No. Okay. Right? So you can, but it'll just get swollen. Yeah, look, that swollen and flame joint. That's exactly how it looks.

That's all I eat is beef and shrimp. Same. I'm like, why have I got it? So not only, bro, so it crystallizes. It doesn't look like that. But it looks like a hitchfoot. Come out of the shower. Yeah.

Red is fucking. But it is, it is like painful. And this last time, I had to get an MRI done because the lady's like, you might have a fracture because This area should not be, so it was the right side of my right foot, the fleshy area that moves the tendons. And obviously, Gautis in the complete opposite side of the foot and underneath it. Anyway, so I got an MRI after the x-ray and they said that I had two pinched nerves, these ones, are pinched and that's what's causing it. But for the last couple of weeks, I've been like, man, as soon as my foot's back, I'm legit changing the way that I do things because 42 years old, you know. You know what I'm saying?

Can you change start now? Huh? Did they say if you change your diet now, it'll like help? I'm going to tell you a story. My father. They give you prescription drugs and the next thing you know you're deprived. Well, they did give me. Steroid shot.

They did give me pills, but that shit don't affect me. That's how I'd be feeling too. They're like, hey, don't operate heavy machinery. And I'm like, I'm like, watch. You're like, well, these get you dizzy. I'm like, I hate hearing that shit. First of all, don't put your limitations on me. Yeah, make sure you eat before you take this.

That's what I'm sorry in my life. You know what that's fucking man. Anyway, so my dad, my dad, my dad, right? My dad is 60. I'm 42. My dad is 60, right? 61. He had, what do you call it?

Diabetes. He had diabetes. Beedis. He had diabetes about a ye. Hold on. He had diabetes about, I don't know, he got, whatever. Since two years ago, my dad stopped eating meat. completely

dudes in the best shape he's ever been he's skinnier than me damn and he doesn't have diabetes anymore because I don't know is it the meat though doesn't have diabetes anymore literally extended his life hopefully

because he stopped eating meat all he eats is like potatoes beans and like salads and shit no meat not whatsoever no bacon no nothing depends what type of I have to pause I have to eat meat With the type of meat

With the type of meat he was eating Like Depends how much Like You can make some shitty Some good tasting But like shitty for you meals Like with the amount of oil and shit people use on meat

Like it might not just be the meat itself It could just be like the shit You and my dad share a birthday right? Yeah Watch your back It happened to him Can happen to you Food effects people crazy

like, you know, Jordan Peterson and his daughter, and, like, they have, like, I mean, maybe it's just, like, autoimmune disorders or whatever. Yeah. But it's all they eat, literally all they eat is steak. All they eat is beef. Yeah. That's it. Because, and, like, the daughter even said, like, if she dabbles into, like, other food,

she'll just get, like, super depressed. Yeah. Or, I don't, inflamed and, I don't know, some other, like, scientific shit. It's a thing, though, especially when you, how do you do? Food is a huge part of, like, how you feel. Yeah, 28. No, for real. 31.

So 31. No, you got to start. Yeah, dude, 38. Just remember, okay? At 29, I had my first kid on. You always had my first kid at 29. So you got to start, you know, you're not going to, like, life is going on all around you. And you have to, you have to say, okay, this is me here.

Where do I want to be at 35? I was like, I'm retiring at 35. I did it. I mean, I keep working because I love it, but, you know, I don't have to. You'd be miserable and retired. I don't think so. I have. You'd be wrestling.

I literally, February 9th What the fuck would you do? February 9th, 2025 Don't call me. Yeah, what does that even mean? I'm done. I'm done doing, I'm done working for other people. I'm only going to work on me.

What are you going to work on? Art and shit. February night, 20, I'm just saying, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm 45. What would you? If you, if you, if you woke up and didn't have this shit, what would you do? What's a perfect retired day for you?

I'll get up at 4.30, as I do now. I'll go to my garage. You do wake up. I'll pack a light lunch, some beef jerky or something. Jacklings. No, you know, get on the water, go fishing, come back, take a shower,

go to my garage, paint, go home, play olden of optic, and then go to sleep. I mean, I've just spent time with family. How long would that last? Forever. every day. Wouldn't they be annoying?

I mean, if you go to the same lake over and over again, but it's an adventure every single time, you're out of nature. Go camping. I love to go camping. I'll tell you what. I'm excited for a trip. Since I've moved here,

and we'll go on a commercial break after this, but since I've moved here, the amount of outdoor activities that I don't do in the last four years have gone down. I used to go camping. I used to go fishing like almost like on a weekly basis with all my friends back home.

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I mean, I know the camera. people are down because they're not nerds but like would you go camping you get your own tent we're outdoors i would be down in the woods i want to canoeing we don't have to do the fishing so i love i have two fetishes oh shit one is a zombie apocalypse okay and then two is to be my plane crash on an island and i have to survive so you would you would do that yeah so you'd be down but i'm not doing this week at like if i'm going camping bro this weak i need to see some fucking bears like i want to be scared on this Listen, but this is my question. I can make all of these things happen.

If you want to go see giraffes in the background, we can go to my boy Toby. Toby's got the fucking spot. No, I mean like, I want to sleep with one eye open. With a gun? How long do you think you'd survive? On an island, by yourself. I think I'd just start a village.

Meet a fucking another islander somewhere, some chick that's surviving over there. How? Wait a wait. See, now you're making shit up. I think, I don't know. I think I would survive. So you're guaranteed not to get picked up.

You're going to live the rest of your days there. How long do you think you last? I mean, I'm going to survive as long as I could until I hit rock bottom. Then I'm just going to like swim in a day. I'm just fucking die. Fall asleep? No, I'm not.

I don't know. I think I'd live, I would hope to the end of like old age death. Or until I eat a fucking poisonous berry or something. Because I don't know that shit. I'm not going to fuck. Day one. I'm not going to fuck in.

That would be, day one, I would eat a shit berry and just have diarrhea. Look up, Emil Hirsch, and then just bring up his movies. There's a movie exactly like that that you would watch. Mab, I just started a show. Yeah, shot up Mab. Yeah, shot up. He filmed a cool last video, like, where he survived all food outside, right? And he had a camera where, like, a app where you go up to a bush, take a picture, and it tells you.

That's that fake shit. No, it's not a plane crash. It's fucking science. If you're in a plane crash, your phone name, you're no service. You're no service on the island. I'm crashing it. Well, look, if you're in an island, let me sit there's water near you, right?

Then you have to figure out how to desalinate the water in order to be able to survive, right? No, the first thing that you do is you... Hey, what do you... Okay, what do you do? Like, you're on an island, you're on a beach,

what's the first thing that you do? I don't know. Like, the first... I'm going to immediately, like, walk in to see, like... Try to start a fire. Yeah, probably... Get shelter.

First thing I would do would probably build a shack. And by that, I just mean like tree with leaves and shit about me. Second would be fire. And then after that it's water. No, it's not. It's water while you build a shelter.

How do you get water while you build the shelter? Well, you have to be thinking about these things. You have to look around. But I'm saying one at a time, like, by the time that you realize that you need water, it's too late. But I'm going to eat of shit trying to build your shelter. I'm going to give you an idea. I'm going to give you. So maybe it should be fire first because you need a fire for water, right?

All right. Or else you're just going to get sick. Matt, Matt, look up how long you can survive without food? Food? Take your time. Food, like almost two months probably. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Unless you're already fucking skinny as fuck.

Maximum two to three months. Yeah. Okay. Now, obviously there has to be some level of sustenance since you have to get energy from summer. Okay, done. How long can you survive without water? I would say seven days.

Three. That's not three. Three days. There's no. Bro, A, did a fast longer than that. No, he did fucking that. No, he was drinking water.

I don't, I think he said he did a, uh, food and water fast for like four days, three or four days. Listen to me. There's three days. I'm not gonna lie after 20. Just no, you have to drink what. That's like the most important thing is water.

But I'm saying like shelter like hypothermia. But how are you going to get water? So right now, if I don't drink absolutely anything in three, you're dead in three days. Well, you'd probably You'd probably die And what's worse about that Is that you die

He's dead by Friday Yeah What's crazy is that you die A horrible death It's death by hangover Yeah Like you literally have the worst Hangover as you're dying

Really? Hangover is dehydration Your brain's fucking Your brain's grinding On itself Because it's got no lubricants Yeah I had to go to

I think I Was it a colonoscopy Where they shove a tube Up your ass I had to do one of those and I don't think I could drink for 24 hours before I did it

and I had the worst like fever fucking headache like it felt like you had the flu and that was just like 24 hours so that's how when I got into the car accident and I went to the hospital I was like fuck I got a headache

like someone just gave me something to drink they're like you gotta wait until you get your I just kept asking like you guys are gonna let me fucking croak in here like give me a drop of water bro Holy shit. All right, Roger, here's the deal. Okay. If this episode gets 10,000 likes, I am going to set up an excursion where we are going

to try to survive in the wild. The only thing I couldn't do would be, I mean, I could if it really, but for a video, I'm not going to go, kill an animal. No, no, we're not doing that. We're not killing. We'll have, we'll have, listen, we will have food. I'll bring food, sustenance, and I'll bring water, but shelter, you got build your own. We have to build our own.

Fire, we have to build our own. That would be cool. 10,000 likes and I'm going to make this happen. I already have the land where if there's an emergency where... Yeah, and who's going to be stuck in the video? None of these fucks are doing. No, Seth's going. Seth would not...

No, Seth would want... Seth's coming fishing on Sunday. He would go fishing, but he's not surviving in the fucking wilderness. You'd be surprised. No. He's going to hit at 8 p.m. He's back. Where's my hotel?

Yeah. No. He's going to be like, fuck this. All right? All right. So we're going to go camping. We're going to build our own shelter. Look up, yeah, bring up the Gugan video and do a survival thing.

Just type of survival. I wonder if we'll go with experts. We'll bring, we'll bring someone super, super good. Would it be a good business to pre? Like, say there was some camping site or something you go to. Yeah. You prepay. and they already sort of,

they have like almost like the lumber, the nails, the hammers. Yeah. And it's like you got to build it yourself. I don't know. Look, look, look, go up, go up. Walmart survival speed challenge, two versus two, all right? So we'll go to Walmart.

We'll buy like, we'll, like, I don't know, like limited amount of, uh, of something. This is exactly where we're going. This is the land where we're going. Okay, so there's, what the fuck? That a boy, John. Anyway, so we're built. It's a survival challenge.

We're going to do this. The Gugans have done it in the past. I've never done it. I've always wanted to. But there you go. Like they built their own shelter. Like all this, like my man's got land. How'd they start this fire though?

No, there's matches and stuff. Like you can, you can build a fire. It doesn't matter. Like we're going to buy, like there's going to be a limit as to how much money you can spend. What if we burn the whole forest down? We won't. We'll go through some safety. That would make the video though.

And you're going to do it too? Of course I'm going to do it. The only reason I'm doing is because I want to go do it And Roger has to film the whole time Just cold as fuck Yeah but they're gonna be eating and shit You're gonna be bribing them as like yo Roger let me get some of that fucking sandwich Oh they got a

So they what they found water and then they had to boil it Yeah of course Ah Then a fucking bear suit Yeah bro Alex Perrick has done a 24 hours on an island So we're talking about Mav right Maverick Yeah Look up a Maverick

Like, what's it called? M-A-V? M-A-V? Mav, yeah, right there. Just the first one, Matt. Yeah, Mav, this dude, shout-out to this dude, he lives out of, well, he doesn't live out a truck, but he travels in his truck and is, like, has the dopest experiences ever. And this- I watch a lot of these videos.

Bro, Matt wants to do this. Matt. Like, this is, like, his, like, dream. Yeah, Matt is a best. Dream day. He's, like, the best guy from Optic at 29. He is. I think, again, you know.

This is what... I could see Matt doing this. In my opinion, the best YouTuber to be is this sort of YouTuber. Because you're actually in the wild and you're experiencing like real life shit, right? Like you're not doing what we do. Look at that Mountain Man Breakfast. Yeah, the Mountain Man Breakfast is sick.

On the right, yep, right there. And then the one in the snow is super awesome. Like, go up a little bit. It's got like 8.5 Mel. Oh, the top one, right? Yeah, right there. Truck camping in a Blizzard Christmas special. Bro, legit.

And they just, what's crazy about it is that he does it. Oh, shit. He does it in like, the parking lot of a Walmart and shit. What's cool is that, like, I mean, realistically, where he goes, like, if he got a flat tire or something, he'd be, like, he'd be asked out for a little bit.

I mean, you guys did the Post Malone thing where you guys, like, lived in the RV for two days. You'd think you could do that? RV was fucking easy. Because he was on tour would be easy. What? That shit was so, like, I feel like you'd be fine for two weeks, but after that,

it just takes a toll on you after a while. I mean it was just he's in like zero degree this is on the inside of his of his truck like it's freezing look at that yeah that would suck

because so the reason that he had this cracked and halfway open is because he had the heater going on the inside and of course you can't and he had a what do you call those the sensors carbon yeah the CO2 sensors he had one of those in there just to make sure that he was keeping

that because it's like It's propane that he's burning in order to keep warm. So he wanted to have some airflow, and that's where essentially he came from. His setup's way better now, though. Yeah. He looks so cold. Yeah, shut up Mav, man. He was talking to him about, I'll start to plug him with private selection because he wanted a pair of those off white mochas.

Not off white, or Travis, mokas, Lowe's. Yeah. Go back to the list, Matt. He had a video where I was, like, thinking, like, I wish I could do that, where, like, he just went to a random campsite. It was like a dope-ass view. There was like another truck there with a whole bunch of people. He became friends with them.

They were like kicking it for the weekend and shit. Like doing shit around there. It was time to go. It's like, dude. Never you see again. Back to reality. I will say that is one thing that I did a very horrible job at with you guys.

Because from the beginning, I should have forced us to go camping to just like disconnect and just fucking hang around a campfire, make some s'mores, eat some hot dogs, wake up, eat some fucking dope-ass hungry man breakfast. Now everyone's just an indoor nerd. Now all y'all are indoor nerds. But yeah, this is the way of the future. Go back to the list, man. I want to make sure that we cover all the things

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shop.optogaming.tv.tvy No. Don't shake your head. That's wrong, Rogers. Dot. Dot.ophtagaming.com. I think TV still rerout. Yeah, TV's too much mantis.

But yeah, that's the deal. What is this? Dramatic footage shows flames engulfing an entire corner of the 35 story. Oh my God. This is what happened at Worlds, right? Wait, what?

Yeah, so the building next to Worlds, which is the M.R. skyscraper, one of the largest developers in Dubai partially burnt down. The fire started early. Look at this thing. Bro. How'd that start? Why did it go like that? They need to bring a fucking chopper in and put that out.

This is in Dubai. I want to go to Dubai so bad. Say that's where Worlds was? Shit falling? Well, near it. Right, Matt? Worlds was in San Francisco. Oh. Wait, so what did I read? Did I misread something?

Go back to the list? Let me see. Let me see this. fire next to worlds tall I have League of Legends some of mine the world's tallest building next to it

I thought world's and League of Legends it looked weird how the fire started to right bro that's crazy it's gotta be like a gas line or something like that

because there's no way it travels like that what the fuck on one side of the yeah that's the only thing I hate about high rises

that could be your way out if I lived up there you better believe that I have a parachute you better believe that I have rope. A hundred percent. I didn't know how high it is.

You need at least minimum 25 floors to jump. Yeah. You need a lot. You need a lot of space. Yeah. So when BigTimer had his skyscraper apartment downtown Chicago.

You would have died. No, if he had a rope, he would have been fine. Oh, yeah. Rope, yeah. How far up was he? Fott all. But. A rope?

You go down, fucking 40 stories on a rope? I wouldn't even risk it. I just kill myself. I'm just being honest What risk is there? Yeah, what risk now? What I'm saying? If there's a fire,

I wouldn't risk die If you have a choice, do you want to burn? Or do you want to fall? I'm going to fall. You would die from the smoke before the fire actually gets you. Nah, because I'd be on the ground.

I feel like I would do something dumb and try to run through the fire. The fire's just going to cut the rope at the top and you're going to be halfway down this mountain. And just break and fucking break my leg. But at least you're trying. No, no, no. At least you're trying.

Or you just, like, lose grip, fucking hands hurt. No, you're not losing grip. You're doing it. I mean, you would have to practice. Obviously, you would have to know how to splonk. So you can go splonking. Why can't you just run down the steps? That's what I was thinking.

Well, that would be the number one option. But if you open your door and you see that the whole place is on fire. I'm going to grab one of the dog. I already got my escape route, though. I already. At your place? Yeah. I can go, I can jump balcony to balcony to balcony to balcony to balcony to balcony.

And when I get to where the fires and kick their fucking door open. There's a fire fucking... What are you? It's a easy jump. It's probably like a five-foot jump to each balcony. You know what I'm saying? You got that.

Wait, so... Time out. What do you mean? Go down the side like this. So I would just be jumping floor to floor. Easy. You already thought about it. Easy.

You were high as fuck when you were thinking about that. Because of the building and how high it is. Anyway, I... You know those crazy? The podcast was way better the second that Roger got here. I'm kidding, bad. All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning in. If you guys enjoyed this episode of the podcast,

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