OpTic Podcast - HOW MUCH DO COD PRO'S MAKE?! (OVERPAID?) | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 104

Episode Date: December 18, 2022

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I smoke, and then I go just like to the basement. And I'm just like chilling with everyone. I think we were watching something. In APG, this was like when he was a little like a little shit. And he was, I don't know. It was just weird. But he was on the ground. And he just like, I swear it seems like so weird and doesn't even make sense.

But I swear he was on the ground just kind of like, eh. Or like, and I'm like, is this dude sleeping and making this noise? Welcome back, guys, the Optic Podcast. We're here with episode 103. Over here we got Kershner. Over here we got Marky Mark. Wow. We got the big dogs here because, you know, the rally events going on this weekend.

So all the little dogs, little puppies that are all playing games. Everyone's in. Well, we're supposed to have Trippy as well. Where the hell is Trippy? How is he not here? He got lost in Forge or something, bro. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing.

Have you played the new Halo Forge? No, I haven't. I've only seen videos of it, and like, it looked pretty sweet for the most part. It's actually ridiculous. It seems like they took the old forge and it's got to be something with like technology. Dude, I don't under this just popped in my head. I don't understand how they came up, how this forge is so complicatedly good. Yeah.

But like somehow. But then you have the base game. But then there's the base game. Huh. To where it's like how, okay, it's like, okay, so they do have skill. There is skill back there. Yeah, they got like, they can do things for sure. Yeah.

but I don't know. I don't know what's going to truly fix it. You know what I wanted to talk about? And we said this before the podcast. What did you say that made me say, you know what we need is a day in the life of Damon? I forget what you said. I think it was something about being tired

after being awake for two hours or something like that. But what is the day in the life of Damon? Lately. What time you wake up, like everything. Okay. So like lately it's been, like I wake up between like either eight because Holly's been waking up early or the latest I'll wake up is like 10. And then normally I'm streaming until like around five or something like days like we'll use Sunday for example. Bella has soccer at nine.

So we wake up at like eight go to soccer, come back home by 11. Then I either stream or don't stream and I'll watch football. Why did you say, because I kind of feel this in a way, you said if you had to wake up early, like 9 a.m. to go do soccer and that you're going like, what, two hours? Yeah. And then you come back and you just don't feel like streaming. It's like, yeah, no, it's like, well, if I don't wake up and like the first thing I, if I'm not like, you know, going to the bathroom, shower and eating my food and playing, my mind is like not there that day to play. I want to wake up and like if I'm not playing like it's just it's hard to get like a groove playing all day

you just feel lazy or like well no because I'm getting up and I'm going a damn soccer practice but then you get home then what do you do well like I said if it's Sunday I'm either I either will stream and I'll just like I'll just be like I'm not really into it today like I can't I can't do it after soccer man I just my head's not there I feel like you have like chill streams though or do you I feel like you can hop on and

anyone will watch just because your karma I've seen you play like random ass games I don't even know what they are but they're just like chill ass games It's not like you're You don't seem like the type that has to have like No I don't need energy Energy or like a personality Yo thank you so much for the five gifted man man man man

It could be another 100 bomb loose goal those ghosts Are dancing and shit Like I don't see that at all It's just like it's more of like a feeling Like last week I think I got on after soccer and like, I don't know, I was playing. I was like, you know, I'm not really like feeling it right now. I dropped like 31 kills my first game.

Yeah. I could have had 34 and I lost a 1v3. That kind of happens to me sometimes too, where I'll have, I'll play good at the weirdest times. That's how, bro, I felt like that the other day. I didn't play for like two days, got on Warzone. I was having like the. Yeah.

I was like, dude, what's it going on? Dude, that'll happen on me with Halo, but then it's weird and then like two hours into the, stream i'll start playing like shit and i don't know what it once i have like that an uncomfortable or shit game or two it's like i just start falling off and start going negative then i start raging then i'm complaining no i haven't touched the new cod at all i think it all just depends on like my mood is that what you're playing when you stream the new cod wait yeah i saw you on who tweeted it out uh someone tweeted out they were like

Was it you? They were like 20th or no, it was crimsix. They were like, I think 20th most viewed or 30th most viewed. Then I saw you on the list. I was like, what the fuck is Damon been grinding? Yeah. Do you put in like long hours or is it? It depends.

Like sometimes it's like, well for the most part, it's like between six and eight. Like I've been where I do I go to sleep? I fall asleep at like 12. Damon is a grinder. Like I'm actually on a normal schedule. Yeah. I would love to it. Like I could easily play like eight, 10 hours.

but like if I do that right now so you actually like consciously tell yourself to get off or like you feel like you could keep going to be like no I should just go to sleep I kind of just get off when like I feel like I've done enough that day even though I want like I could play more I want to it's like I'll get off and like like now it's like kind of normal for me like

I'll be done streaming and then we you know we make dinner well I don't really do my Hollywell we actually do like normal shit now or like we'll go eat dinner or we'll watch like football or watch a movie it's almost it's kind of like it's like normal when you like when you were a kid that's almost like what your family life was like because i'll be doing some shit now with my girlfriend and i'm like with her every day but like taking

her dog to the dog park and it's just like god damn i am getting old like this is fucking in normal shit like we'll cook dinner and i mean we don't sit down at like a dinner table but it's just this weird like yeah I never did that couple dynamic I have a little my grandparents what like as a kid you didn't do that

really always sat at the table yeah wait you always sat at the table as a guy but only with my grandparents dude you grow up with your mom yeah so but you guys never did like it was just like grab food fucking I mean I was yeah I had a lot most of my friends I think were like that oh yeah I remember you told you like

You had to. Fucking, dude, I had to. I had to finish the food. Like, especially when we were living with my stepdad. It was so strict and just fucking annoying. Like, I want to, no, I don't wish anything bad for him. But, like, I would like to see him now. And just like, because I think back to how he, like, would yell at me and my brother.

He never, like, beat us or anything. But, like, how he would yell at us as kids, it was just like, dude, that's growing up now. hearing it and thinking back to that it's like dude you are pathetic like you were talking to like eight year olds like yeah it's like it's like how fucking powerful did you feel uh fucking doing that shit so i don't know i heard i heard after we like moved out well i don't even want to talk about it that's uh i mean going off of that though like like me like waking up like kind of like reminds me like back in the day like halo 3 Xbox 360 the golden era of gaming i fucking it didn't matter how i was feeling like i'll wake up and i could just play all day what a segue the halo 3 on

360 mw2 prestige and nukes four of the best online gaming eras ever halo 3 bro i'm telling you people always say halo 3 if halo 2 was so unbelievable halo 2 was just like it was it was it less populated. I don't know the numbers. I don't know if it's possible to even if I can find the numbers of what was more populated, Halo 2 Online or Halo 3. But Halo 2 Online was so fucking fun. And the

ranks were perfect. They were hard to get. It was, there was proximity chat and matchmaking. Like, you could hear the other team. And it was before any sort of I don't even know if MySpace was out.

Maybe it just, you know. I think it was out. No, there was no, like, no one was worried about getting canceled. I didn't really get to that. Like, the way people talked to each other was fucking insane. I didn't really get to play Halo 2. Like, most of the people I knew, because that was like Xbox, right? Normal Xbox?

Yeah. Most people I knew, like, still had, like, N64. I mean, I lived in the middle of nowhere, like a tiny-ass town. It was kind of rare for- Where did you grow up? Wait, where's that? Canada. Oh, yeah, Canada.

There's, like, a grocery store. a church, a bank. I don't know, the drugstore. So, like, it was rare, but, like, I had one friend who had an Xbox. I remember playing Halo 2 campaign. But everyone else said, like, N64s and shit. Dude, Halo, did you play... You didn't play Halo at all, really, did you?

Were you just... You were just a straight Call Duty kid? What was the... What was the first Call of Duty you... When did you know you were addicted? Out of Four. When was that? On PS3, I think I was on.

2007, I think. I know I was addicting Cod 3. That was the first one I played. What grade were you in? Six. Sixth grade? I think. I could be wrong.

Dude, I'm so mad that my... That's when I started playing, though, six grades. Did your parents let you just play as much as you want to? I mean... No, dude, that was so fucking annoying. That... I mean, yeah. It depends.

It depends. I definitely skipped school to play Cod 4. or beta. Did your parents care? Oh, hell yeah. But they let you skip school for the beta? No, I'd like, I'd like, I'm sick. Yeah. See, but my mom got to the- But I wouldn't get away with it a lot. Like, she wasn't dumb. Yeah. See, my mom, it is kind of weird. My mom, the times I was legit sick, it was like, there was no argument. But it's like she knew every single time. I was, yeah, she knew when I was shot up with some shit. So she would literally take the Xbox away. like I'm I go through and the thing is I probably did feel like shit because I was I'd be up till 4 a.m. like sneaking on the Xbox or something and then I eat a big ass meal and next thing I know it's 7 a.m. and my stomach hurts. I'm shitting my brains out. So it's like mom I'm not I don't feel good. It's like all right if you're staying home then I'm taking the Xbox and she'd take it to hide it.

I'm just like what the like I would I would convince her. I'd be so hype that like I know I convinced her. I remember I was playing G.B playoffs. I thought she takes it away. I was playing G.B. playoffs. My aunt unplugged the internet. Dude. I went ballistic. Because it was like, I had a really good team. Thinking back, my

brother would play, we were both gamers, but I was more multiplayer than wanted to play against someone, and he was like, wow nerd. World of Warcraft-ish, like, fable, all the dwee games. You would always play those

But I think he would play World of Warcraft Played like all those in that I played the first World of Warcraft ever I didn't play wow I think it was like ninth grade I was strictly cod But he would play that shit while I was playing And I would start lagging and lose my shit The internet back then was so shit

The first game I played in line was Rainbow Six Vegas actually That game is like one of the best games So good Yeah the camos like all the good people you knew and they're good they had like all the colors on them bro ramble six yeah it was good it was so little long is that like

4 v 4 is that was that s and d type yeah it was like search like kind of like you have to repel down remember like calypso casino it was crazy and it had a good ranking system if I remember like elite yeah it was good though it was back in the day

what cods had a good just black ops did black ops too no no no no But don't all the peasants think it did? If they do, they're crazy. I just have to, I just have been listening. Like, it was still just like a, I don't know. Like, who grinds the most?

I don't think there's ever been a good cod ranking system. Yeah, I hate that shit. I think that was decent. Yeah, that was all right. Just too late. 15 years later, you're going to try. Like, we don't care anymore. I mean, there is fucking, well, that's why Halo 2,

I was fucking in love with. Like it was, I think only one or two people in the world got level 50 or ranked 50. No way. I think it was Strong Side and Eamai Warrior.

What? Yeah, because like, I think. Like when it was popping? Yeah. Because it was that hard. I'm talking you'd have to win. The highest I got was 47. And that was like my,

like, that was not my prime, but when I started, that was the end of Halo 2 is when I got that. I didn't know it was that hard. But like when I was addicted to it, I remember being ranked 22

and being like, God damn, this shit's hard. And then, but there was like, I think there's no way anyone else, I feel like I would have heard of them. It might have been possible. Someone in this team, because there was a team Slayer playlist, which was like the noob fucking playlist.

Then there is the team hardcore, which is like basically MLG settings. So I think Strongside and Elamite Warrior were the only ones to get 50s. Everyone else, like Demon D, hysteria. Kind of think of like all the online kids. Dude, I never got a 50 in Halo. I played Halo 3 so much. Not even Halo 3?

Halo 3 was easy. Dude, they were like all 49s. Halo 3 was just guaranteed as long as you played. Not me. I only had 49s. Team Slayer, duos. SWAT 40 never got 50

I was like I was like nasty at cod at that time and like I couldn't get a 50 in Halo and then my friends at school could all get 50s why did you choose Halo or cod instead of HALA

I could never get damn 50 like I don't know we could add like probably we could add karma in the HAL because I played that and then I well I'd play Cod 2 and then I played HALA 3 when it came out then I played Cod 4 and it came out

and I was like well cod four like dude I'm fucking I'm fucking ass yeah I don't think it's gonna show any any of the ranks well that war was fun there used to be a website called

bungee.net where you'd type in someone's gamer tag you'd see all their matches bro it's such a good time there's never been anything like it um for the uh halo 3 yeah modern warfare 2

prestigious and go was that fun I don't fucking know it was fun yeah it was fun I liked MW3 nukes more I think I like, I've never had a NW2. I've never got a nuke. Even when I was cracked off my fucking tits and playing, I don't even, what, I played Ghosts.

OG Fortnite was five. NW2 is like a lot easier though because the chopper gunners and the VToles would give you kills towards your nuke. Yeah. But like MW3, that's why, dude, I could get a nuke every game. I was just trash a guy.

That's like one thing that like, dude sucks. Dude, I was like broke his shit. shit when MW3 was out. Like, dude, I could have been, like, I'm not going to say I could have been Seth, but I could have been, like, big videos and shit. Dude, because I could literally nuke every game. Really? I can nuke with, like, a fucking knife if I wanted to.

What, what, and that was what game? W3. And what, even MW2, I could do the same. What game did Seth get popular with? MW3, I think. I didn't. MW3, yeah. It was just easy.

You were getting more nukes then? I mean, I don't know, but, like, I literally could just get on, just get a nuke. and do it like every game how old was your what 28 you think that's the same Seth I think he's 27

damn you were only it dude I remember I played against Seth like in W2 I remember being in the MLG scene played with Bobby I forget his name though he had some weird ass name I forget Seth's name he had some weird

ass name Fortnite yeah for OG 4Nov was dope. OG Fortnite was the best. I'll still never forget Pumage fucking cheating me in a tournament. No, he didn't. Who was he playing?

I think who was... What did he do? I'll explain. I need to think of his teammates name first. It was a 2V2 tournament. It was like one of the first tournaments ever. I think Kempstar might have hosted it or something. Yeah, he was hosting those.

It was Pommage and... I think his name starts with an H. He became a really good... Warzone streamer, Huskers. I think it was Huskers. I could be wrong, though. I could be wrong,

but I'm thinking he played with Huskers. Let's go with he played with Huskers. So it's Pomash and Huskers. Imagine Huskers never played Fortnite. He fucking hates Pomage. But it's me and Hitch, and it's just 2V2 kill race. I kind of forget how it worked back then.

But the game starts, and then I don't know if it was like best at three or what. But the game starts. and we both maybe have like a few kills and then hitchhags out and then I'm talking in game like yo hitchlige down are we ending this or what

and they're not responding at all so I'm like why I guess I'm fucking playing this out 1 v 2 they both die I end up getting more kills than then so it's like we win and then when they die they're like not or I don't know

we should restart or something no no no hitch lagged out I thought we were restarting I'm just like you guys didn't say fucking anything but I think like back then I was so cracked. I didn't even like argue. I was just like ready to play. Oh yeah, we're going again. We're going again right back. No, it's fine. It's fine.

And then, and so they do that and then we replay and I think we lose. They're just like dying in the beginning. I think hitch, I think hitch sucked. It was really hard to do. Yeah, Fortnite in the beginning was so fucking fun. Was this literally the

first map? I think so. Levin Park, Greasy Grove. Looks like it. There's like nothing crazy on the map. Fucking ninja? Drake? That was a crazy time. 2016 and 2020 were the best year so far. Or it's not bad.

2016 was the best and 2020 was the craziest. What do you mean for Fortnite? Or for what? Just years in general? Wait, what? 2016 was insane. What was in 2016? I'm not even, this is like a thing.

Everyone agrees. Wasn't that when Future and Drake came out with like dirty, Sprite 2 or something. 30 Sprite 2. Or what a time to be alive? Yeah, I think so. Wait, wouldn't it? Maybe.

What's 30 Sprite 2? That's one of futures, too. I'm not Drake. 2016, 2020, they don't, I don't think a fucking thing sticks out for me. Really? Yeah. 20, well, 2015.

People in the comments will say it. They agree. Yeah, but what about and then you said 2020 as well? Yeah, 2020. was just like a crazy year. 2020 was a crazy fucking year. What was going on?

I feel like I was in a coma. And like I was in a coma living in like an alternate universe. But like because I was in my apartment didn't move. Like I was, I'm on just HALA 3. I just want to wreck the room thing.

But like what were you? What was a shit? I don't even. It was just like a shit. I don't even know what was going on with the optic. I was the year. I was on mutineers half the year. That was the year after I quit.

That was a year after like, that's where, like, remember we, like, everyone moved through their own spots and shit. Yeah, that was like a goodbye.

It was like the Paul Walker, Vin Diesel scene. Yeah, that was just. I remember getting that. Like, that will eat, because the first.

What? Yeah, that shit was going to happen. I knew that shit was going to happen. You know, that was like, because the first apartment was kind of like, we just show up, got keys. So it was easy. That was, that sounded so dope, but wasn't at all. Like, we thought, yo, we're all going to have our own places. We're all going to be in the same apartment building.

It was like. We were all over the place. We were all in the same apartment building. That was like, nobody saw each other. Holy shit. Content ended. On that, depressing as fuck. We were, they talked about, like, we were going to move into this, like, being the city.

And then the city changed to the civic. And the civic changed to the Emerson. And we all moved in there. Emerson, bro. What else do we got? We have the Cod major coming up this weekend and rally. Four challengers teams facing off against 12 CDL teams. There's four pools.

There's going to be a playing tournament on one. Wednesday for the challengers. Only four make it out. They're going to be put in a pool A, pull B, C, D. Am I the only one who feels like that off-season went quick as fuck? It did, but the season also started earlier.

That's how I felt. I think since CDL's been a thing, it hasn't started until end of January. I remember. Yeah. So, it's going to make for an interesting weekend. It's like the game hasn't been out for a month. For some reason I haven't paid attention on anything.

champs probably probably June July still something like that I'd say June maybe is that the ranks right there who's on top that is the pools but I mean like the top we already discussed this pretty much on the pre-show

everyone's basically two and two everyone's basically two and two there's no standout phase fucking simp no rockers three and one and ultra's three and one but I mean rockers should be two and two might be the first time ever. Is phase still the same?

Yeah. They have Slasher instead of RCDs. And then RCDs? I don't know much about Cod, but I hear that and I just don't think that's right. Is he that good? Yeah, slasher's good, but I would have just kept it the way it was, in my opinion, but... Yeah, I think it kind of be like if our old object team, like, fucking got rid of Matt or something. I'm, like...

We played for, like, four years. be like after like three years of playing we're like yo man yeah yeah we're getting someone else for no reason yeah like or like any of us like i mean there can't be a reason they've been they've came what either like second or first at champs or something like that every year like yeah they didn't win but like um mays might as well stick it out dude i i'm not gonna lie when phase was like winning and die you got covid that's it up when uh when phase was winning for a while i thought they were going to be stomping everyone for like three years yeah like Like, maybe who, a B, Z, Sim, Selyum, those three are like,

I think a lot of it too. Like you're lucky to get two of them on a team. I think people look past with these like new games where I feel like it was more of a thing back then that was talked about is all these games are different. Like people, I feel like people like kind of put that aside. Like remember back in the day you could have like someone good at say I don't know, black ups too. And then the next game, what game was it? Ghost. Some of the people were good were like bad because they just weren't like good at that type of game. Who was good at Black Ops 2 that just like...

I don't know. Okay, I'll give an example, but it's like kind of a bad example. Like Clay Black Ops 2, Clay and Ghosts, a lot different. He was still good, but I think it was like a lot different. He was dominant in Black Ops 2? Yeah. Is that like fair to say like kind of? But I don't know.

He also like, hole dropped him for, me so. And it's not even like St. Clay was bad. Yeah. But like that's how like it was though. Yeah. It was just like that. Who was the best ghost player?

Mm. Probably him. Really? I don't know. People say like, people say Porter more than me. It's hard to believe crims six. Yeah.

I did win with Doug. Crim Six was really the best that caught in Hagee. And Haggy. And app. To me, Haggie was like I always thought Parasite was good as fuck

He's amazing I always thought he was good as fuck I won't ever say he was better than me but he was good No I wouldn't say that but He was good But If we didn't have him

It would have been It would have been hard Yeah Fuck what was it Because Hague was really good at search That was one thing he was always really good at He had the brains What game was it when it was

Parasite Miracles Killah and who and you oh shit damn no wonder you love them that was my that might have been my favorite cod team because I didn't even really what game was that black ups too yeah I thought so

but wait so did you guys win the most I was crazy because that was the first time like before that remember like everyone started playing we were like walking through that neighborhood and everyone was like talking like damn someone's gonna have 100k in their bank account and it was like that it was just crazy thing

about that and then compare now the money they get it's like crazy it's fucking it's like 800 yeah dude I'm like passed up by everyone

yeah I'm passed up by people who like uh mill each no they don't no bro I don't know

I just I just I just readily said that I mean I wouldn't be surprised let me not say that for us spread a false room yeah nah fucking do it

I just made some yeah it's be awesome and Bose said each player gets one mil maybe maybe me saying that falls or something and they do. I don't really understand salaries and shit.

How people like Scump, I get it, formal get it. Like they have this big following. They can, I don't, they just have this big following, whether it's tweeting. It could be Instagram, could be fucking any, whatever they put their face on, it's like people, they're just fans of them. But then there's some people who, I'm sure a lot of people in the CDL, and I'm not trying to like talk shit. just a random thought, but it's like, the amount they probably get paid a month. Just to practice and they go to a tournament. You'll never get to the bottom of it.

The same shit that like we used to do. Yeah. But it's like now they just, they'll get thrown nine grand or probably even more. Yeah, more. And it's like just the show up practice. And then to be on a stream for one, for 45 minutes and no one really gives a fuck about. fucking, I don't want to call on any teams or anything

but like there's just, I mean, that's just the way it is. It's just crazy how it changed. Like, all these just, I don't even, I just don't understand. We like, we peaked at the wrong time. That's all it is. Yeah. Like straight up. More like pave the way.

I mean, we paved the way. Helped paved the way. We could have stuck around a little bit longer. I always say I'm like an NBA player from like the 60s, 70s, 80s or something. Like I can't. in at late 60s, retired mid-80s. And then it was like, here comes Jordan. Oh, yeah.

All this, everything just starts changing. But it's just, I really don't understand how I don't understand. I guess when you're a multi, multi-hundred millionaire person, you'll just throw a mill to a cod team. You're like, fuck it, I like cod. I guess. Because I really just don't understand how it fucking works. Yeah, I don't think you ever well. boxing fight like yeah fucking boxing

we had chess boxing match Ludwig boxing show match I kind of wanted to go to it but was it just chess people in the e-sports awards which I ended up just not going I'm like why am I why am I going I'm not no one I'm not up for anything

you guys both watch this online though uh I watched Andreas fight yeah and it was all chess players boxing no because I well I don't really no, but like myth, the Fortnite guy. Yeah. He was in it. And he's obviously

not a, he might play, I think everyone plays chess, but they don't, like, for the match, but they're not like pros or practice or. Damn, so he broke his, he broke his all-time viewership record and I imagine Ludwig gets quite a few viewers. What was the?

280,000. When I was watching, it was 305. Really? I don't know what the peak, wait. A peak givership of 201. Oh, wait, that was old. So what, wait, what was the peak?

Is it saying the peak was 280,000 for the Ludwood? 280K benchmark at the time of ready. Yeah, so it could have hit 305. Yeah, so it beat both his records. I clicked on it and it was 3.05. And I was like, what the fuck? That's crazy. Yeah, that's insane.

But, I mean, it was like a free YouTube live event, right? Yeah. But that's crazy. running it on his stream. So Boataz 1 though? Isn't there... Which one is she? She...

In the black? I don't even know. Yeah, she's in the black. She fucked her up as far as boxing. Yeah. The Dina girl maybe hit a few shots, but it was like, it was just Andrea. Oh, she keeping the pressure on her right now.

On her ass. Nice little jab. What I'm pissed off about is this headgear. Um... What, like, Just Dina, she's just going to survive forever with the headgear. Yeah, Nick just wants everyone to get fucked up. Well, I just don't.

Andrea even said she thinks that, or she doesn't, didn't think she would have a chance with the chess because apparently that Dina girl is a fucking grandmaster or some shit. Oh, really? So she didn't really think she'd have a chance or a slight chance. But she was like, yeah, I need to knock her out pretty much. and it's kind of yeah and then this is

let's see what this is after after reviewing okay so this is a tweet from who mogul moves all right before I say this Dina

Dena won the chess match but the boxing round before the last chess match the Andrea got three standing counts but the last it's like the Dina's like this and the ref goes in front of her

and it's like one two apparently if you get three in one round or something, it's over. Yeah. I think sometimes like three a fight, right? Yeah. Well, and this is whatever, three a round. And I think it was four for the fight. Oh, and they let her keep going.

With like two seconds left in the round, he starts it again. But then the bell rings and everyone just like, oh, okay. Oh, like she should have been done. But it was like technically he did start the standing count. So. What are you saying they were doing boxing rounds and then playing chess in between the round? Yeah, I don't, bro, that's what I'm saying. I don't get it.

Like, I tuned in, like, I don't under, they were telling me about it because we did a, I did a podcast with the Boat's twins. Yeah. Or not twins, sisters at, uh, in Colorado. And they were telling me about this. And I was just like, what? Like, what is this? I don't understand how this is possible. In there, in the ring doing it?

Yeah. He's like, I beat your ass and chest. Now we're going to get up in box. Dude, I don't... That is wild. But so, Botez, technically, I guess, should have won, but it went to the chess match

and then Dina beat her on the last chest round or whatever, so it was like, oh, yeah, Dina wins. But go back to the, apparently... Is this crazy to play smash? After review... Mogul movies or some shit. After reviewing the fight from last night and talking to the chess boxing officials,

Andrea Botes should have been awarded a TKO after the referee and... initiated the fourth standing count of the fight. After discussing with the players, we are not reversing Dina win because the fighters played it out in the moment and she completely, she competed valiantly.

However, we have decided to award Andrea a belt for performance and to correct the decision that was made in the ring. I mean, at the end of the day, it is just chess boxing. Yeah, I mean, it's for fun, like... I guess, I guess, I guess, Ray of one though.

The win. I would say, yeah, good win. I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's a great way to start. All right. All right. Real quick, we'll bury it back. Take a quick ad break.

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guaranteed 6% back. Back to the podcast. We're back and I don't know if you guys use TikTok but TikTok might be banned in the United States here soon. Thoughtmakers unveil what the fuck. I can't fucking read these

Unveiled bipartisan bill that aims to ban TikTok in the U.S. I don't really understand any of that. Am I the only one that's on TikTok? Fucking I don't even want to. I think everyone is. I don't use it. I don't use it. It's bad.

man TikTok wait unhilate that should I read that because how do I by Chinese company by attendance that has raised fear

in the U.S. that Chinese government officials could gain access the U.S. dude they're going to ban it because Chinese government officials access our data

who gives this shit I mean the the government does but but I don't know it's kind of crazy you think they actually would do anything

like you think they would I don't know do you even use you guys Bose, you don't use TikTok? No. They're not getting my information. Dude, I'm on TikTok nonstop.

It's crazy. I think it would be a big hit. But something else would just be bigger. Like YouTube shorts or something. Like pop up or like Instagram just makes her. I don't know, man. I feel I'm in a see, I don't know if you guys understand the fucking massive. Well, you guys understand the massive.

I get it. You get like trapped in like this. I scroll. Yeah, this. rabbit hole you get put down there. It's so, it has to be so unhealthy for you. I don't know why I never got into it. I never was in.

I wasn't into it at all for a while. And then I downloaded it, or no, Formal was like, dude, you know like a TikTok? I was like, dude,

it's so like entertaining. You should get it. Like, yeah, yeah, whatever. And then a few days, whatever nerd.

And then a few days later, I think I just randomly downloaded it. Or like, he sent me a clip. And maybe I didn't have a download. So instead of like, I was just like, fucking, I'm going to just download it. And then since I've downloaded it, it's been fucking, it is so bad. So it would affect your daily life if you didn't have TikTok?

Dude, I can't imagine if I was, I'd probably affect it. If I didn't have TikTok, my life would be better. But I'm thinking about kids that, like your daughter. Yeah. Is she on TikTok all day? What do you think? Yeah. Yeah.

Everyone looks at TikTok. So I don't understand. Like, are kids bored anymore? No. Bro, when I was eight, if I had a fucking phone. Oh, yeah. Oh, I was doing was going outside. Yeah.

Because you had, even if, there's nothing else to do. Even the times you go outside, it's like you're not even doing shit either half the time. Yeah. You're just like outstanding around outside. Literally, you could kick a rock, fucking just sit on some random bench somewhere. Yeah. With, like, your friends ride your bike. You're just trying to find something new.

But, like, that doesn't. And just think about that was, that has been a human thing forever until now. Until now. Like, when you grow up, you're fucking bored, you're somehow outside. Like, I don't see neighborhoods friends playing outside. Yeah, dude, is there neighborhood friends anymore? I see kids outside. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, but they're not doing what we were doing, man, hunt. No, yeah, no, it's not like that at all. They're probably sitting around with their phones. Fucking. Oh, 100%. I just... Linking up to make TikToks.

It's a lot different. Yeah, they're outside making TikToks. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like that could be really detrimental to the brain. Or is it evolving? Does the Earth always just constantly evolve? Are Loki, like we look at all the, oh, they're on TikTok all day.

They're going to become idiots, degenerates. But are they low key just going to be more evolved? They're already using this tech. They might be. Yeah, they're understanding more because they see TikToks that like we should only understand and then like like what? That means that. Yeah.

Do you think they're allowed to bring their phones to school like little kids? I don't know. I was Bella. She's like not in school school. Oh. So I don't know. I think I saw a TikTok of someone saying of like POV can't bring your phone, no phone in class World War some shit.

Oh, God. I think some places, some places, no. Some places, yes, maybe. I really don't know. I'm literally, I literally live in a bubble. Yeah. I don't know, like, much about probably anything that truly matters.

I am into sort of health and fitness a little bit. Even then, I've been slacking hard as fuck. Dude, are we, what are we going to do January 1st? Damon? What? I want to, is there picks of you shreds? Reddit on the internet. Yeah.

January 1st. Are we gonna... Dude, I've been like waiting to... Last year when it came to January, I was like, okay, I'm gonna work out. No soda, all that. Did it for like six months. And then I started streaming again.

And now I'm just a fucking meatball again. I mean, I wasn't not a meatball. What am I doing January 1st? Um, if I was... I can't imagine how bad your diet is. You can't... What do you mean? I probably eat better than you.

At times maybe, but I would say an overall, put a whole month together. I don't think so. Because I'm sure I go in pretty good streaks of eating clean. But then like, say these last four days, went out drinking, I think Thursday or something. So I'm waking up. I was, bro. Oh yeah, we were almost about a meetup for once. Yeah, like fucking sketch.

But, like, dude, I was so. I got forced out. We went out Thursday. Is that for some bosses? No, maybe that was last week. See, I don't even know the weeks. It's all one big blur. But when I like Thursday, got drunk.

Fucking Friday woke up so hungover. So, like, not going to lie. I had a few more drinks just to feel better. Jesus. Were we content? Saturday? Friday? Friday, was I?

I don't think so. doing the eggnog thing? Oh yeah. That was my hangover day. That was my hangover day. Yeah. Thursday go out. Friday wake up.

I'm fucking hungover. I go to that house issue content. I knew I messed up. I shouldn't have done that, but I was forced out and I can't, I'm not going to socialize without drinking. But then it's just like you start feeling good. And then it's like that feeling starts to go away.

So you just drink more. But yeah. So when I showed up to that video, video. I literally, but my hangover was so bad. And I haven't done this often at all, I don't think. The face content shoot I fucked up at. And it was so hungover. But I didn't know there's a solution to where if you just take like a shot or two, you'll start feeling better. Get the body moving again. So that's what I did on Friday shoot. Then Saturday was the same thing. What was the point of this? Saturday I bailed on you.

New Year's resolution getting, but what was the point of me telling all this? Thursday went out. Oh, I was just fucking depressed all weekend. From the drinking, eating like complete nutter shit. Because like when you feel like shit, you just don't even care. Oh, and you eat cleaner than him. That's a big issue.

Yeah, when you feel like shit, you eat like shit. I want to, I had this random thought of starting a community January 1st. maybe like a Patreon that also is in Discord and I'm like involved in it every day of like just people wanting to work out, eat healthier have people that keep them accountable if someone starts fucking up everyone talks shit to them

or like something like figure something out. Not a bad idea. Because I don't know I'd fucking I have to do it. And I talk about I feel like I bring this up every single time what you should do I don't fucking know I think you just need to lift weights Because you would be strong

Yeah I picked up weights yesterday at mics And I was weak Really? Like what a kettle? Like my shits is still right But I don't think I do damage Well you're not You're not gonna come out the gate strong as fuck

Like your muscles are gonna have to get used to it But I think you'd be surprised how much you can lift After Give it like a month And you know like a month You're like oh shit I'm fed Literally you have to force yourself The first week was...

I worked out this morning for the first... I've worked out, I think, twice in two weeks. I was talking about this with Mike. I have this, like, new... Like, old me would be like, all right, fuck it. Let me go to the gym, my apartment. With the new me, I have this new, like, again, shut up. I have this new anxiety thing.

We're like, bro, I hate being around big crowds of people. Or, like... Is there... Or, like, not a big crowd, but, like, even in my apartment, like, if there's like five to ten people I'm gonna be like I'm not going in there Is it busy like that? I mean I don't know

I can tell you What about walking down the hallway Or like being in an elevator with someone Yeah elevator is one that tweaks me I'm like I feel it like rise I didn't I fucking hate that shit Yeah I think you'd be surprised

I was saying You have to fucking force yourself I worked out today was my second day and I think two weeks and I've never felt you know when I had You know when it was at its peak

Like it was like out of the roof I went to the Mavs game And then like You have to walk down to your seat And it's like you're facing in Like everyone's like facing in So like you're walking down Everyone's looking at you like everybody

In my mind My thoughts were just bouncing Everywhere like Fuck I'm raging in my That's how I feel at all times. Like, even people I'm like... Like, I went from thinking, oh my God, everyone's looking at me to... Now, I got to tell these people to get up because I got to sit in the corner like, fuck.

Yeah. No. You're just describing me when I'm baked. Can't do it. I mean, either way... I was, but like, either way, I'd... When... Well, I feel like you're not, you're not like me at all.

Because I feel like sometimes... Like, it's in my mind, but I'm not. like tweaking out in person you can smoke but you don't like you do you think you could do a podcast hi or like yeah normal stuff yes what the fuck is wrong with you because i i could not i wouldn't even i wouldn't even want to smoke and walk in the excurs same fuck that really yeah it's i don't know what even sometimes when I'm I literally would be sitting here like this like looking at you and you'd be like yo bro

open your glass eyes like dog I'm looking at you what do you mean fucking I didn't smoke for like three months and I was I don't know you just hear shit like stop smoking weed fucking loser and at least that's I don't know I'd see

like the motivational people on TikTok and shit saying I'm like I'm gonna I'm gonna just quit weed and so I just stop smoking for like like three months. And then I started smoking like two weeks ago. Or after the like three or four months, I was like this shit hasn't helped at all. Like not smoking weed didn't, not smoking weed at the time. I was like, this is not helped at all. Like it's done nothing for me. I'm still anxious, still like uncomfortable in certain situations still want to drink if I'm going out to like a social thing. Um, one of your good story about me? Well, and then two weeks.

ago I started smoking again, getting anxious and stuff. But then I noticed, like, it's, I, instead of going to the gym because I'm just fucking bored, I'll just smoke. And I'm like, so maybe it was kind of fucking helping me because I was like pretty consistent for like a three month period. And I started smoking two weeks ago. I think I've gone twice in two weeks. But I'll just like smoke instead of going, being bored and going to the gym.

Yeah. But what's your? Oh, so I told this in my stream the other day. I hadn't smoked in like forever. Right. And we were in LA for, like, the Botez party or whatever. Oh, yeah. And I never had any Pine Park. Oh, man.

And I was pretty fucked up. Like, I was drinking a lot. That's not a good combo. I had some EMCs, whatever. I don't know. It was some Matt Craig drink. But I was slamming them. And somehow, I was like with the Pine Park guy, I was like, yo, please tell me you got a joint. So I sit there, it's like end of the night. And I smoke the whole thing. And I haven't smoked him forever. Like, just you?

Oh, yeah. Oh. No, no. I went outside. Well, I did throw up eventually. Yeah, if you got the spades. But I went outside and I'm on a, I'm sitting on some bench, right? There's a bunch of rocks. Holly goes in. She's like, I'm going to go say bye to everyone and get you, get you a piece of bread. So she goes in, I'm sitting there. It's like, it's like a bench with no back. And I remember like looking at her, walk away. And I looked at these people. Next thing you know, I went to like lean back like there was a back. fell off the bench

like in slow motion onto all the rocks the next day I woke up bro bruises all over my back my legs everything it was like the worst experience ever but it was so funny like I was just sitting there laughing

like staring at the sky on a bunch of rocks like in my bag it was horrible I brought my I don't think we were dating at the time but I brought my now girlfriend to that party and we were only there for maybe like 45 minutes.

I remember that. Because she, we were already drinking all day. We were by the pool. Went to like, we were hanging at the pool. You said you were going from like since you woke up. Pretty much. Yeah. We like woke up like breakfast drinks.

Then chill for a little. Maybe take a drink. Go down to the pool. Drink more. Because it was like, I think this was like summertime. It was fucking warm. The pool was pop in.

Like it was one of those rooftop pools. Everyone thinks they're cool. And then we're, drinking at the bar. Then we get back to the room, change, get dressed. Like, we had a bottle, drink a little more, go downstairs, meet Hitch at the bar, drink more, get to the party, grab a drink. So it's like, by the time we're there, we're fucking really drunk. And then she does not smoke and says she doesn't want to smoke, like it just has no care to smoke. And then someone hands her a joint, a Pine Park joint, and then she hits it, maybe like once or twice. And I just knew instantly.

You know what's going to happen. I saw her doing that and I was like, you better put that. Oh, you guys were gone in like 30 minutes. I was like, you better put that down. Literally within five minutes. White face. I'm like, you're all right? She's like, yeah, I'm fine.

I fucking hate that shit too. I can tell when my girl was like too drunk. And I'm like, you're all right? She's like, yeah. And I'm just like, dude, I hate like, it. I feel like when I'm fucked up, I'm like, no, I'm fucking, dude. I'm like, I'm fucked up. But like, girls would be like, no, I'm fine.

and like sort of have like an attitude when they're drunk and I'll even like tell her that um I can tell you the story about my first panic act panic my first panic attack ever which calls me to I feel like forever have anxiety and completely rose my anxiety and maybe depression forever but it was it was that it was dude I'm telling you this panic attack was so bad it scarred me for life and APG caused it. No. You might have heard this. It was at the T-L-N, back in Halo 3, all the good Halo 3 teams, we go to this house

in Chicago. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Couldn't you watch that? Yeah. Yeah. You could watch, like, it was a, it was actually dope as fuck. There was like, I think people had, like, stats, a stat card, like NBA, like their shooting. Is there?

Yeah. I think there was something like that. But anyway, anyways, it was at a T-O-N. and I think this is when I was kind of getting bad into Adderall as well so I'm like staying up all night fucking whatever and then I think this was 2011 all the top halo teams go to TLN we're just practicing and this was like shortly after my dad

passed away so it's just like in a fucked up mental space but he passed so I was like just anxious and depressed anyways but I think like a month or two later go to this TOL I think maybe a few weeks later go to this TLM and I don't know if it was night one or two but one of the nights everyone was just like smoking in the backyard because we're done playing

I smoke then I go just like to the basement and I'm just like chilling with everyone I think we were watching something in APG this was like when he was a little like a little shit and he was I don't know it was just weird but he was on the ground and he just like

I swear it seems like so weird and doesn't even make sense but I swear he was on the ground and just kind of like, eh, eh, or like, and I'm like,

is this dude sleeping and making this noise? And he's like, kind of like, eh, just like, and it's, it's so weird to even say

because it's like, what is that? And I don't know, it just doesn't make sense. But I swear, I'm like, dude, what the fuck is he doing?

And it just like, it started this panic at me and then I'm like, looking around and this, it's like hard to breathe. Rooms getting smaller. APG's like still on the ground. Like,

everyone's on the couch. And then APGs in the middle of the floor, like on a couch. And I'm just freaking freaking out. Like, I don't know why. Like, looking back, it was just no one else, no one else cared. But for some reason in my head, it was the worst. It was like the weirdest thing. And it just made me think I'm going crazy.

Like that, it was only when I was a kid, though. So I had a dream, right? One time I had a dream. I remember the whole dream. like no I was like I was running over the railroad and it was like gray brick wall there was a dude standing there and he had like this jug in his hand and then there was an alley and I'm running from someone and I look in the jug and I don't remember what was in it but it was like the most nasty they saw yourself in the jug like no I just looked in it when I was running by and

then I like look it was like the most nasty shit and I would I just started running and then I woke up and every time I thought about the dream I would get nauseous it was weird I was like what the fuck like every time I would think about it I would really get sick dream I was a kid I was a kid and I was a kid and I would think about it and get nauseous and at one time I forget what I was it may have been a birthday my birthday or something we were eating pizza I thought about it I threw up and then ever since then I I could think about it and I don't get nauseous it was weird like back in the day I used it was the weirdest shit ever I swear Where to go.

Like, buddy was like haunting you in your head or something like that. That shit's creepy as out. I don't under, dude, the universe is so like being weird and connected in the weirdest fucking ways. Like these weird circuits are just somehow like connected in fucking unexplainable way. Tonight we have the e-sports awards. Are they tonight? I was supposed to go. I think they're tonight.

And it looks like we have a lot of nominations, TST content group of the year. except for esports personality, content creator of the year. The process is... Esports personality of the year. Yeah, that's Hector. He loves talking. Eavesdrop, esports content series of the year. We had two series of the year nominations.

Optic for Apparel, creative team, and org of the year. We got fucking Matt Piper over there, controller player of the year. He's probably grabbing that, right? For sure. And the Optic Halo team. team of the year. This is goodbye scump, creative piece of the year?

There's an award for that? I am. I mean, dude, yeah, he's not even done yet and he's still got it. He's already got an award. And then the fuel team of the year, I believe that's the Dallas Fuel Overse team. So which ones we went in? I mean, are we supposed to just say all of them? Oh, I mean, but who?

Well, still. I think, should we go picket these? And that's what? How many were we in? Like 12? Let me see who. Let me see who's controller player of the year. Who could beat?

Nope. Nope. Matt Kenny. Nope. Nope. Yeah, I don't know who that is. The formal is going to win controller player of the year. I think he definitely wins it.

I don't know who any of the other people are. The team of the year. Who else was I, I think I was talking to hitch about this. We're up for, like, or Oregon of the year. I don't know who could. We just read them. I don't know who could beat us at Oregon of the year. Unless it's like some weird

LA There's a couple teams I think loud T1 100 thieves Optic I think those are the best But they're just like popular Like they're not like

Because we won I don't Oh man this is why we need HEC series Somehow knows all the accolades But I know we won a few things And I think we won more than like anyone else I don't know if

Forget what we fuck But we've won a D-Cherty I think we're going to win that. I think we're going to win controller player. Get what else there is. I just, I don't keep up with these sports. We're scrolling for. Where we go?

Where would you go? Damn, we won the Optic Major VCT Masters. Halo, Overwatch, God, Valerent. I mean. So I feel like with that we should win team of the year. Yes. What else that we up for? Like a lot, everything.

Are we just in everything? Content series, personality, creator, group of the year. What other groups are there, aside from TST? I feel like they're so unique. Are there any other groups like that? I think they got thrown in with like big dogs. Group. Like how is, how is 100 thieves a content group of the year?

Yeah, I don't really get that. And then at TSD? Like how is that? They should have threw us in there. It should have threw us in there. What, like, Optic? Yeah. Like, how can 100 Thieves be just a content group?

Not Optic be a content. Yeah, I don't know. That's a weird one. Like I said, I feel like Davis and them is pretty unique. All the others are, like, just a bunch of streamers that, like, are in a team together, you know, kind of. I mean, shit. I hope. I mean, they still do their thing.

I can't hate. Hope GSD wins. Yeah. Don't know how they're thrown in with a hundred. hundred the entire org is that phase clan fucking entire org yeah see that when it comes if there was would they

would they win if it was just them and competing against actual just little squads still win could still win that would be fucking insane that would be insane because OTKs like Asman gold and rich and there's a lot of people imagine if TST Hitch joins they're all like

optic fan boys hitch joins fucking producer then the content then brings his hometown friends and then they like end up beating a hundred thieves you know it's crazy esport game of the year they have every esport game of the year what's the game of the year what's the game of the year but cod oh wait god's not even in there i can't see the cameras they got free fire i don't know what that is they got pubjeeam halo infidence not there it's fucking Six fucking years to make this shit, and you can't even get... Valor might win that. What's even, like, what's the...

Or league. What's the bottom middle game? Rainbow Six. PubG Mobile? Yeah. Rainbow Six? Free... That's the only one I don't know what that is.

Like, how are these in it in Halo? Yeah, Blombok Club. Wait, we got two things in content series. Process and eavesdrop. what the fuck where's the flycast even though we've only been doing it the last few months

process you've got see I don't even know have you ever watched any of these other orgs content series like do they do other orgs

do shit like the process and stuff I feel like you have to be like kind of sort of you have to be like kind of hooked on like the games that those teams do it for right

I don't even know what their content looks like it is good as fuck it could be Wait, what would you vote for at E-sports game of the year? Val? I'd probably pick league, but like Val. Really? League popping?

I think it'll be Val, yeah. Really? League's popping right now? League finals had like how many million people watching? Like, nothing's even close to it. I used to love League of Legend. When that shit's on Twitch, Faker and them choked the finals. They lost Game 5. Ew.

I used to love League. I was addicted to leak for a little bit during the end of Halo 3 I think what third I love that game I used to skip practice to play it

like I'd be late to practice to play it uh host of year desk yeah I'm a half saying something something oh my god but yeah we're in a lot of

categories this year I think we'll pull out some dubs yep if you guys could or well you probably already did by now but we appreciate all the votes and you know hopefully hopefully about a night you know you'll

you'll see that we got some wins in some of these categories the greatest fan base in the world opting gaming oh my god hag percent of by Coca-Cola guess this concludes the podcast for today but he's golfing now

what I'm trying to end it in a fucking nonchalant way wait how long have we been doing this are we good then yeah all right y'all that's optic gaming fans the greatest fans in the world all right that's going to do it for the podcast thank you all for joining us today maybe back to a regularly scheduled program with a whole squad next time i don't know but appreciate the votes appreciate y'all watching until next time