OpTic Podcast - Is Scump vs Faker About to Happen? | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 260

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

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Dude. Oh, dude, can we touch on that? That's a different combo. Don't you dare say faker. Let me let you. You shouldn't have brought that up. Now I have to pressure you publicly. No, no, okay.

So we can do a group trip to Seoul. Yes. And you get to do something with Faker. I don't want to hear anything. I don't want to hear anything. I don't want to hear anything. And I told you this. Soul?

Soul? Yes. My soul is going to leave my body on that plane. That's like a 30-hour plane ride. No, it's a dream. No, it's not. It's 14 hours. When you get there,

we get to be in Seoul. Korea. From there, we'll take a two-hour flight to Tokyo on our way back. I don't get to warm up, though. I'm going to be on a plane the whole time. He's going to be out there. He don't need to warm up for you, man. Let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this. What are the odds that he can beat you in a 1v1 and call it due to your favorite map? Dog, I don't even know. Zero. It's fucking faker. If he comes out and he's just turned. All I am saying is that if I have. I just get built by faker and cod.

Listen. I get alphaed in my own game. Listen. I almost texted Tucker, Tucker Roberts, the owner of T1. I almost texted him and said, yo, let's make this happen. Gentlemen, I want to welcome you to Optic Podcast episode 260. Day, no 50. This episode is brought to you by Rocket Money and Butcher Box.

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What's the fight song, bro? Whose fight song? Because we got, I mean, the Penn State Whiteout games. Oh. For a one night. Per the one night. Yeah, that might have to be the fight song. That's right.

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Nine days, bro. Nine days. Nine days, man. Nine days until you give birth, maybe. Actually, uh, is, is was showing me like her,

her projection charts, and there's a 20% chance that he gets born. So her 38th week started today. Uh-huh. And there's a 20% chance he gets born within this week. And then it's like 40 the next week. And then it's like, I mean,

the closer you get to, so major week is, so major week is like 40%. Yeah. Do you have any questions? Questions for parents? The OB literally said that she's projecting. She obviously isn't a fucking future teller, but she said the 27th through the 29th.

And I said, babe, you got to keep them in. No. You got to keep them in. Like the doctor said that? Yeah. That's when she thinks. But it's like she can't, she can't fucking tell. I mean, she's probably at minimum like two or three days off maybe.

I mean, well, 39 weeks is typically when they're born. It's like, that's like the week. usually, and that starts next Tuesday. So you tell nature that. It could be anything, though, you tell nature. I'm telling y'all. She can sneeze.

She can sneeze. She can sneeze while she's sitting awkwardly. And here comes. And it's time. I was about to say the power might go out for a second. The lights like her? It's on the way. I beg you, now that you are going to be a father that you think like a father and

always be protective, like you know there's a fucking massive winter storm coming this weekend. are you prepared do you have waters do you have everything prepared you got to put the snow plow on the on the Mercedes brother i tried plow remember when i tried driving that will's car oh he had in the winter storm in chicago i literally just got it's like terrible timing to get the car but i just got the car and i'm like bro i got to go whip it and it's snowing yeah and i fucking i went to that little neighborhood and then I think it was it was it you and my dad to come with the blankets to get me out you got stuck dude I spun out completely I was in like and it was the worst like spot I could

have been in because I spun out on the road luckily I wasn't on like a busy road they couldn't see you right it was like one of those barrington side shit yeah yeah yeah but I went into like a divit yeah the ditch the Illinois ditch so I couldn't get out so they had to bring a blanket and shit and they had to get the blanket under my tires to get some tracks to get out to cover you to for safety and carry you back home. Hell, no, I was tweaking. And then they towed me out. And then they were like,

who told you out? A company. Okay, okay, okay. I'm pretty sure we couldn't get, I couldn't get me out, so we had to call a company. And they were like, are you going to be good getting home?

I'm like, no. I was like, y'all got following me back. Yeah. But it was only like three minutes home. Yeah. And they were like, all right. If it was like 30 minutes, they probably would have been like.

I got the Raptor ready. I have, everything stocked up. I bought like an extra heater just in case, a space heater, It's actually funny you ask me that or say that because it literally asked me last night she's like, because she saw the winter storm

warning, she's like, if I go into labor are you going to be able to get me to the hospital? And I'm like, yes. In what? And her car. Hers is four-wheel drive for Mercedes. Okay. The SUV.

All right. Because you know you got a fucking F-150 Raptor type R4a. Dregas right down the street. You might as well park that at the crew. Just let me leave it there. But she was like, you know how to drive in the snow?

I said, I'm from Philly, baby. I'm from Philly, baby. It used to be a game to go driving the snow. I literally told Peterman this morning, I'm like, I can't wait to get in my truck. Back then you have the heat blasting.

I take a dab before or something. Yeah, yeah. Dude, I got driving slow. I love it. I go to McDonald's drive food is slow. I got the heat blasting right now, bro. When I walk outside. so cold.

Oh, I hate that. I'm warm-blooded now. Winter storms here. Texas acts like it's prime COVID. There's toilet paper off the shelves. I don't get it. I was actually supposed to go sit. Apparently it wasn't that cold.

I mean, it was in Chicago. It got to like 16 or 17 plus the wind chill. You didn't go, right? No. Yeah. I stayed back with the girls. Benji passed away. He joined his brother Henry up above.

Yeah. Yeah. You're holding up. It's, you know, it comes in flashes, you know. Like you'll, you'll, you'll, it'll be the weirdest memory or you're like scrolling through your pictures and then a picture of him appears. And it's like, it's like, for Henry, it was worse because, like, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye to him.

And the girls were alone when it happened. I was still in Chicago and my fantasy football draft. And that sucked. And this one, as soon as we got back from, from our trip, I landed. Literally as we landed. Yeah. And then you hit me with that. I was like, fuck.

Yeah. As we landed, I, I got in the car. I dropped my bags off, got in the car and then drove and within a, and within, and with the hour we were saying by to him. He was in the hospital or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he was there for like a full week. You know, like Jude, Jude gave him every fucking shot that he could, man.

And in the end, it was just like he succumbed to his, to his fucking nasal shit. Just wouldn't clog up. And I wasn't going to let them fucking just sit there and bleed to death, right? So I asked immediately, and Jude will never be able to bring herself to do something like that. So I had to come in and ask, I'm like, hey, what are the, what are the, what are the chances? And they're like, this will never stop. And I'm like, fuck that. Like, he's not going to live like this.

Yeah, no, no, no, no that. And he went peacefully. He literally went like Jude laid next to him and they were looking at each other when he went. And last thing he saw was her, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So it was easier because it was easier. It was easier. It was easier. I will say, like, you know, it hurts and like I'll get these, you know, teary flashes.

But it was easier to fucking actually be. either and have a chance to say buy to him and shit, you know, where with Henry was so sudden that it still kind of lingers, you know? Yeah. Sucks, man. Sorry, bro. Yeah. But I was supposed to be in Chicago.

For the game? Yeah. You were supposed to go for the game? Yeah. Damn. Honestly, you would have been freezing your... Well, no, I was... No, listen.

I was going to be well prepared. I'm not, you know, I did live there. But now... And he would have been pissed. Yeah. No, not really. I think it was a... It's the best we've looked in decades.

And that game... That game was fucking insane. That last throw by him. on his back foot, reminding me of 1997 quarterback challenge when won Mr. Brett Favra fucking threw 75 against the wind on his back leg, probably fucking drunk off of perks and a whole bunch of other shit that still out through every other quarterback there, young and new. They shouldn't even got to that point.

So it was like, once they got to OT, I was like, all right. And then OT got sketchy. O.T. got hella sketchy. It was like, what, three possessions? And then they finally put one in. It was like, bro, I, I was. was fucking mind-blown when I saw that. It was a field goal, right?

Field goal to win? Yeah, but... You know what? I hate... With a throw? You hate... I hate when a team wins with a field goal in overtime. Like, just make it, like, has to be a touch.

College rules? Just make... I'm tired of seeing a game like that and with a field goal. Like, someone's got to score that fucking ball. They did have multiple chances, though, so it's like... I don't care. I want to see... I want to see...

That call on the bills game, I think it was? Oh yeah, no, that was on the Broncos? Yeah, he caught that shit. That shit was legally fucking, like, ripped. That never touched the ground. His knee never fucking touched. It was a fucking good flip-up. Good fucking rip-up.

But zebra's always getting in the way. I'm not going to lie. And then I saw Joe Burroughs. Birds would have another fucking win if it wasn't for zebras. Fucking zebras. I said, I thought the same was, that's a catch. And then I saw Joe Burroughs tweet and he's like, the refs got that right. I'm like, that guy knows more than me.

Oh, okay. Oh, I didn't know that. That's Joey cool. I think he was talking about that game. was like. Oh, he wasn't, he didn't and Joe Burrow, I feel like, doesn't really talk like that. He was like a flabbergaspy that people

don't know what a catch is in the rulebook. Dang flabbit. Those weren't hard calls and the refs got them both right. Damn. All right, Joe. I listen to him too. I'm not going to argue with you. Joe Burr? If it was, I think it was about that game.

It had to have been. All my friends went. By all accounts, the way that I thought about it is like, all right, well, one, I'm not going to leave, I'm not going to leave the girls alone to go through this shit for the first weekend and I was like man if they win then we'll go to Seattle like I'll just fly to Seattle do a little fucking meth and all the touristy stuff that you do it fucking crack and

everything that's legal out there fucking stand it's fucking defy gravity while I sleep you already know what I'm gonna say yeah don't go to Rock six sheet third street oh third shoot my it was a multiple of song yeah don't go to third fourth none dude asking four The Broncos stuff sucks, too. It just makes the game, like, not even fun to watch more. That one I didn't understand. Bow Nicks getting... Because the game was over.

Angle break second of the last play. I feel so bad for that guy, young kid. Yeah. Has a chance to make it to the Super Bowl. He got a shit rock. Like, when you watch the clip, it looks like a bang, bang play. Like, football, it's just fast in general. It looks like, oh, he just got hit hard, like, in the ankle.

But, like, when you actually watch it, I mean, he got, like, right on the ankle. Oh. Oh. Have you ever fucking hit your ankle on the corner of a piece of furniture on the floor? The worst pain that a man can feel, A, getting kicked in the balls, there's nothing like it. Nothing like it. Second. Well, hitting the scooters on your shin.

When you try to like flip the scooter and it hits directly on your shin, those are the top, top two. Or when you run into the, to the hinge, what's it called? What's the ball hinge on the back of your truck? Oh, I hit one behind my leg once right here. Just like you're walking. Yeah, people were shooting fireworks in a street when I was a kid and I was all happy Jolly backing up and hit one of those on the back of my knee. It's a straight metal.

It just, my leg went to sleep, dude. You say that Charlie Horse. Getting hit on the balls is the number one thing? Yeah. Not. Getting hitting. Not if you have balls. Charlie horse is up there.

Dog, getting hitting the balls is un- Dude, a stubbed toe infuriates me. It's always the most inconvenient time, too. I'm doing something making food or. Oh, and you don't cut your nails. So that might peel back. Oh, he's right. He's out there like this?

I got caught lax in once. Yeah, see, like, what are we doing here, dude? Like, relax. John Claw Van Dam, are you, are you practiced? See, this is the one that would get me right here. Ah, let's go. God damn. You need to go home and sit on your couch.

This is not with... Bro, my uncle, when he was, this was back in the day, when we were all living in the same house and shit, and he had a pile of clothes in his room. He was, like, before it happened, I went up there. He was arguing with his girl on the day. the phone. Mark, get out of here. Bro, he said he kicked the pile

of clothes. And there was a... No, no, no. The corner of the bed was right there. So the web of his foot just hit the corner of the bed, bro. It's split. Brother. It was a crazy shit I've seen it a minute, bro. He was out for decount.

Dude, me too. Yeah, I'm sorry. Now, that type of pain is so instant, too. It's just like an immediate... Fuck. Like, that's how I react every time when I like get a pain like there, just fuck. I sometimes say, oh, experience the pain. Focus on the pain. Ah.

Yeah. All right. So let's talk a little bit about call of duty. You know, Scum's final death and competitive call of duty happened to one zini. Of course it's this fucker, dude. You retired him. It is what it is, bro. No, he, yo, he texted me that too.

He's like, what did you say retired your dumb ass or something? I said you had enough after this, huh? Crim Six was Seth Poetic Formals Kleenex Carmas Blast Clacer's scrappy

AX Octane Jacob Blas I got hype when I saw that And then I read the list And I'm like damn I wasn't even cool enough To like have me in like The left part of the list

Like everyone else were tired I'm not even in the left part I was like oh shit You're a killer Not a kille That's why dude That's why Is what it is

The thing is You didn't you didn't have a final kill Look at Riley hovering The match ended before You like you know Look at Riley He's just hovering over One against Boston Bridge

Scamp one against Boston Bridge It went game five though I remember it was a Mercado game five right Wait the only two players on this list Who won their final matches Are Naged and Scamp Wait what? Had to clutch on your ass

That's a pretty crazy stat Yeah that's a cool stat Their brothers They're singing and they're bringing And they're colored Give me a high five Oh, me and Matt Up up up

Are the only two who won in their final matches? Yeah Two fucking idiots T'all Yeah One is dumber than the other And I'll let you guys pick who's dumber Dude, don't

I mean, it depends on the day It depends on the day I spent so much time with both of you That yeah No As long as tweets yesterday He said I started the Porsche Yeah, what was the original tweet though

He deleted it? Yeah, I didn't see the original Matt What do you say? He tweeted Bro, his second tweet was just He's out of his mind And then he's in the comments

Wait, come on, tell me. Tell me. Parentheses, the Porsche. He tweeted like yesterday I got my Porsche and I felt this burning sensation in my left leg. So I thought I was stroking out. And then he goes, but then the seat warmer burned through the leather and was burning his shin. And he added Porsche. And people are applying saying nice flex.

He's replying. He's like, I'm not going to hide in the shadows. Wait, that's the Raptor. Wait, he said Porsche? Yeah, he says the Porsche. Oh, the SUV. Dude, he is an idiot.

I don't know what he's got now. That's fucking comedy. He is an idiot. Wait, so let me see what he said. Let me read. Literally, laser being coming through, felt like someone took a soldering eye into my left side.

And you know he cried. You know that. You know he was like, ah. Now that burning pain is, I would just read in his reply is just dying. Like, he's just so dumb. Dude, he's hilarious. I read that shit, and I was like, I instantly started laughing.

Because it, like, seemed serious at first, and then right when you get to the second sentence. It's like, I'm not going to hide in the shadow. So good. So, our team falls to LA thieves. Me and Brandon spent the entire day together yesterday. Yeah? From fucking 7 a.m. all the way to, like, fucking 4 p.m.,

just chilling, just me and him, chilling. Anyway, why was he in Mexico? He, to reset your athlete visa, your P1 visa, every five years you have to exit the country and then come back in and go through customs. But he had like all these forms that he had to, like, when we came back, since I am a responsible adult, I have global entry. So when we came back, I went straight, I told him like, I'm like, yo, I'm going to go through this so quickly and I don't know how long you're going to tell you.

I'm just going to take my own Uber. He's like, cool, cool, boom, boom. So I went through. And then he had like all these forms to take to customs and immigration and he's like, here's all my documentation. I'm a pupe, you know. I'm going to be honest, I think. Okay. All of that that I just said, I think.

I think that that's why we went to do. I don't know how it works since I was, you know, born here. You know what I'm a United States born immigrant because I did come here way after. But I don't know what the rule is there and that's what we did. But what was crazy is that. You need no talk? What's crazy is that... I just blacked out.

I was reading the text from Page. What was crazy about it is that as we were sitting there eating our chorizo omelet with black beans with gotija cheese on top in Monterey Airport, he says, yo, it's crazy that we're here five years ago doing the exact same thing, right? And I was like, no, I was like three years ago. He was like, no, dude, every five years we've got to do this. And I'm like, what in the fuck? And then I thought about it.

I'm like, man, five years ago, live was 11. Like, time, it pointed towards how fast time is moving. It's kind of scary how fast time's been moving. Like, just in general for me, I mean, I feel like, dude, I just keep seeing tweets. Like, I saw something. It was like from 2016. And I'm like, bro, that literally feels like yesterday, bro. That was almost 10 years ago.

Something's going on. It's so crazy. I think it's social media because I just can't stop looking at it. And the time just flies and they start blending together. I'm watching every map of call. I went to dinner with Cammy and Purge last night And Cammy was like, Zinn, you know, it's been seven years Since we were in Toronto, right?

Oh my God How was dinner? It was good, really good. Where did you guys go? It was El Broco, Italian spot. I think I've been to that place. Is that the place like right next to the mall? No, that's not the place like right next to the Mav Square, like right on the other side of it?

No, that's, we went there. Mio-No, I think. Oh, that's not that place? No, that's good sworn. We went to some shit called Brocco, I'll broco. Oh, wait. Braco, was that the... Did we go there for...

Was it Nick's birthday? My birthday? I'm telling you. Is his birthday? Yeah, who... Laszella? That was Las Stella. No.

Oh, that was his birthday? You guys haven't been to El Braco. We got to go, though, because it's good. All right. I don't know how to say this louder than I have. If anybody's ever, like, wants to go do like a good, tasty, fancy dinner, whether fancy or not, I'm just saying, like, a good dinner. Let me know.

Because, you know, live in Jews. they like what they like and they don't like beef tartar. It's as simple as I can put it. Well, now that I got the food accounts, I'm like... You know, I got you on that. I'll help you with the beef tartar. There are some... I'm trying to eat healthy, but I'm like, I need content. I need to go eat. It's just, now I have the best excuse to just constantly go out to dinner. Which pros and cons. I'm going to blow up like a balloon, but also it's great.

Oh, not really. Like, this food is... You haven't gained any weight. This food is actually like not that bad. You're eating fucking fries. I've been... You're maintaining? Yeah, like I've been maintaining for fucking 20 years. I've been bad. Like last night, it has been eating.

She's on an ice cream kick right now and a pregnancy. I mean, you know how it goes. Dude, last night she wants ice cream. So she's like, you want some? I'm like, yeah, I'll have a bowl ice cream. She brings a bowl with four scoops in that bitch. And I'm not talking little scoops. I'm talking fat boys.

I'm like, of course I'm going to finish it. Of course. Like, you put ice cream in front of me. There's no way I'm not finishing it. What's your favorite ice cream? That's where I started. My favorite flavor? Um

see I don't like straight up just flavor no additions probably just vanilla but like I like to put shit in it and I think whenever we have the baby I already threw the pitch Sunday Sundays I like it

Sunday every Sunday yeah that's a good I like that one we get like cinnamon toast crunch all the fixin's bunch of different candies and shit candy powers every Sunday little man gets a Sunday

and guess who else gets a Sunday Big Papa oh yeah Yeah. My favorite ice cream, I don't know. Weird. Yeah. Time is weird.

Because I think everybody feels it. Like when I tweet about it or talk about it, everyone's like, dude, it's insane. There's no one like, everyone's on the same page. They're just flying by. My dad was right. When you're a kid, you look at that shit and you're like, shut up. Anthe, you don't know how quick it goes. You don't know.

It's relative. Now I'm like, damn, dad. It's relativity, right? If you look at how fast do you think a day goes by for a mountain? has been here from the beginning of time that now counts days as millenniums that's that late night shit isn't that concerning

those have me crying isn't that concerning I think it's the CDL I think the CDL just makes time go faster because bro it's like we have the worst format ever I'm sorry well yeah the format's awful we're playing once a weekend yeah format in the fuck

we've been we've been preaching the format. It's the worst that's been now because of how hype Challenger's is. So I feel like their hand is going to be forced or it better be. Like you need to fix the schedule so people can watch more pro call duty because challengers, it's too big right now and it's exposing

that flaw of the CDO. I was watching some of the stuff. I was catching up on a lot of the stuff and I saw a conversation between Octane and Ben and Ben was saying it's like, can you imagine like how much bigger is going to get when Call of Duty uses their social media platforms to blah, blah, blah.

Blah, blah, blah. No, man, that's artificial. That's artificial, Ben. That's artificial growth. That shit ain't going to help. It needs actual support. It needs actual support. Well, this year just got fucked up because, again,

we keep saying how this is probably the best game that they've released in the past couple of years, but there's competition this year. Last year, there wasn't competition. This year you got Arc Raiders. Like, that game is just through the roof. Even during the race, like viewership numbers were just way down because everyone's playing Arc.

Tarkov won't put it. It's just. Yeah. There just wasn't comp last year. This year, I mean, you had Battlefield as well. This year, there's just, there's so much comp. And people are playing. Ask our coach what he played.

Ask our coach. You know what they need to do? That's five rings if he plays Call of Duty. And ranked hasn't even came out yet. Like, again, last year they released ranked at the start of the year. It was an absolute shit show. So I don't blame them for delaying it this year because they want to make sure everything is smoothed over and it's not as bad as last year.

But also, it's like now. Well, it's not even. It's not even to make sure. If you're going to wait to release it, you can't let cheaters run it. Yeah, no, they can. You have to pick aside. Either you release it quick and everyone can play it and maybe there's cheaters. But if you delay it and those issues are still there, what was the point of delaying it?

You know what I mean? Bro, everyone's like, dude, why don't you play anything? I'm like, dude, there's nothing to play right now. There's literally nothing. And they're like old manates. Bro, they haven't played the old manate's in weeks. They can even get that shit started. In weeks.

And it's like, bro, I literally need rank to drop. So I can have something to play that gets my brain. Because, like, I'm going for the camos, which is fun. You know, I like pubs. I like going for camos, but I need rank. You know what the CDL needs to do, like, actually, though? Like, game Paperboy? Of course.

The CDL needs to hire, like, clippers. I don't know about the songs by Paperboy. Now, here we go. From the top second song. They need to hire clippers? They need to, like, take advantage of the short ones. With the conclusion, let's not have two combos at once.

No, I was just saying the CDL, I think, to hire clippers. I'm not even kidding. There's like no short, like short form is everything. That's how people are getting in. That should be the easiest thing. Guys, guys, guys.

Exactly. Well, just touching on what Ben said, like, this is not 2015. Tweets from the official call of duty account aren't going to tip the scale. Correct. It's spamming short form videos from different accounts.

That are going to hopefully go viral. And people are like, even if one in 10 go viral or one in 20, that's still big outreach. Like, oh, shit, what is this? Because that's, that's hidden. I still think. Like team content, like, I think every player should have like, you should be, know every player.

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It's because when there's a lot of call of duty to watch, when it's high impact, everyone wants to watch. So how do you recreate that in like shorter spurs? I can tell you how? Do you add tournaments? Do you let 2Ks 5 days on weekends? Just take a look at all the vets that have finally like back. down. It's like, the format is a big reason why. It's like, dude, imagine being a veteran

cod player. You've been playing forever. You used to go to 13 tournaments a year. Back in AW, it was like 13 or 14 tournaments. Now you're scrimming every day to play maybe two matches in a weekend and then you go to the major and hopefully you play good at the major and you play like maybe four or five matches. It's like, dude, piggybacking off that because it's just Fucked. I was talking to Cammy about it last night, and it's like, it puts so much pressure on the players now, too, because I was talking to them and they're like, dude, we're not even through the stage one qualifiers. We haven't even been to a single tournament. And there are so many people calling for roster changes. And I'm like, damn, you're actually right? And they're like... You have three or four matches to prove yourself. And if you play shitty in three or four matches, that could literally end your career. You can't build confidence. You can't build momentum. You can't bounce back after a loss. You can't double down on a big win. two bad matches, you're on the chopping block, you haven't even been to land, there's no time for the team to actually grow or for individual improvement, because everybody, you have this small sample size that's drawn out,

and everyone's just like constantly wanted to see changes. And I was talking and I was like, damn, that does put it in perspective. That's got to be stressful. You guys haven't even been to land yet. You guys aren't even bad. You guys are three and three. And people are saying, X, Y, Z should be dropped. This guy should come in.

Bro, when we're doing our power rankings, Those are tough. How hard is that? We're doing power rankings right now at the end of every single week. And bro, we're getting to see these teams play one match. Like, Faze just lost to G2. Nobody had that, like, nobody predicted that shit.

But now it's like, okay, we had Faze in first last week because they beat us. They had the hardest strength of schedule. Now do they stay first because they had 45 minutes of bad cod? It's tough. It is really difficult. It's fucking impossible. It's impossible.

The old way was a matter of. bro. It gives the normal person going to tournament's hope. Like, you can come up and play against pro players and... Bro, you could get dropped and then get picked up one day later, go to the event and then make a crazy AM run

and now your team is like, wait, we're in pool play. Look at EUnited, for instance. That storyline back in IW was unbelievable because people were like, who the fuck are these guys? And then they make it out of groups and then they go all the way to the finals. You're like, what the hell? And then

then you see them go on to have great careers. We just don't have that anymore. It sucks. Dude. Oh, dude, can we touch on that? That's a different combo. Don't you dare say faker.

Let me let, hold. You shouldn't have brought that up. Now I have to pressure you publicly. No, no, okay. So we can do a group trip to Seoul. Yes.

And you get to do something with faker. I don't want to hear anything. I don't want to hear anything. And I told you this. Soul? Soul? Yes. My soul is going to leave my body on that plane.

That's like a 30-hour plane ride. No, it's a dream. No, it's not. It's 14 hours. When you get there, we get to be in Seoul, Korea. From there, we'll take a two-hour flight to Tokyo on our way back. I don't get to warm up, though.

I'm going to be on a plane the whole time. He's going to be out there. He don't need to warm up for you, man. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. What are the odds that he can beat you in a 1v1 and call it duty your favorite map? Zero. I don't even know.

Zero. It's fucking faker. If he comes out and he's just turned. All I am saying is that if I have. I just get built by Faker and Kod. I get alphaed in my own game. Listen, I almost texted Tucker, Tucker Roberts, the owner of T1. I almost texted him and said, yo, let's make this happen.

Yo, shit's not funny. I'm not even kidding. We're going to, bro, next time he's in the U.S., I'm sure they come to the U.S. We'll set some up. We have to go to Faker. We have to go to. It's not wait for him to be here and make it easier on those parties. It's South Korea.

It's not even North Korea. Because right now it's just shit for me. It's his domain. He's sitting there at home. He's got a home field of D. advantage. Yeah, but the thing is, is like, you're the one that said, I would like to play against him. And then somebody said, hey, Seth, because you're Seth and because of all the hard work

that you've done, not just for thyself, but for an entire community. Oh, there he goes. But for an entire community, you can. You can't play. Bro, think about it, man. You're just not a traveler. Like, because when I hear that, I'm like, I've never heard of a better excuse to go to a place I already want to go to.

But then I go, then I come back to the stream. They call me a part-timer. No one's calling you a part-time for going to Seoul to see aaker. Dude, I'm not joining them. be surprised. Yeah, but think about the or. Do it for us. They would want to see the video.

They would want to see the hole. Header for optic. We're torn the T1 facility. I'm dipping him in Midland. Their chef is asking us what we want. Oh, yes, please. Their driver comes and gets us. Please.

Yo, yesterday is made a power play. We got this new breakfast place. It was a pork belly habanero breakfast skillet. What? A pork belly? Fried rice. I would never get it if I like, that sounds good.

Because yesterday was like fried. Wait, rice. Rice for breakfast is crazy. Beans I get. It was insane. I would never eat it on a day that I plan to do shit because yesterday it was just full herb mode. Yeah.

But, dude, hit up the CEO. Be like, scum won't come, but does Faker want to play methods? Just throw the line out there. See if they'll bite. Dude, yeah. Speaking of league, it's back. The L-T-S? Yeah, I think it's L-E-C.

L-E-C? But K-Drel had like 150,000 viewers on Twitch. Or like, lead matches? I feel like they just had Worlds. They already started back up. Yeah, I think they started. See what I mean? Wait, World was already like three months ago, wasn't it?

I think they start back with like, felt like last week. Because the new season of league just came out. So I think they like, they start when the new season drops. Wait, does Faker stream? Very rarely. I'm sure what he does is just the bat signal.

As soon as you see that, oh, yep, watch now. I don't know if he like talks a lot though. I think he like just throws it on webcam and like just games, which he's alpha enough to do that. I got to sit there and make cock jokes. He just throws it on, doesn't even look at chat and just is piecing. If you made a cock joke in front of fakeer, he'd look at you in disgust.

Or he'd be one of the boys and be like, he'd say, what did this fool just say around me? He's joking about genitalia. Take him to take me home to Faker Tower. Faker Tower. Fucking Faker Tower. He's like Tony Starvin. That's right.

That's awesome. That's good shit. Yeah, all I'm saying is that, man, like, if you want to do something, you have the opportunity to do that not anybody else in the world would have the opportunity to. I'm actually begging you. No, I don't know. It just feels so criminal to beg somebody to go do something for themselves. You know what I'm saying? Well, it's bad timing with the baby, too.

Oh, bro, the baby is going to be like, man, my dad, man, my dad could have done that cool shit, man. No, it's bad time. He's not as cool as I thought he was. And trust me, I ain't back it down. If there's a chance for it to happen, I'll do it. I will be a laughing sock. No, but you won't be a laughing sock. I don't think he's ready for my Diana, bro.

No, because no one... Whatever the fuck that means. No one in their right mind would be like... I'm a flash E-W-R. He's in my shit. He tries to flash out. I'd be him again and then I'm on him. Slicing him.

That'd be one of the coolest videos ever. Just like the whole... I'm just picturing the video. I'm just like... Meeting faker, being in their, being in soul, being in their facility. You play faker, you obviously get dismantled, but it's like a good fun. Like, people are laughing, you're joking, you're getting absolutely clobbered. That is like the beginning of your fucking.

I kill the unthinkable demon slayer king. You do the unthinkable, and then now we're in legal agents again. Optic LCS headed by Scumby. He starts getting offers. Floppy penguin. Me, double if. It'd be us three in James, crowds. surfing you in the T1 facility, just like, he did it, he did it.

That would be sick. That would be sick. It's fun to think about. Yeah. Blackop 7 confirmed E Sports World Cup. Hell yeah. Love that. When is it? August 3rd through 9. So it's a little bit earlier because it was on my birthday last year, wasn't? It wasn't it like the mid-August? So I think it's a week. Holy fuck. We have a lot. Or no, it was in July last year, wasn't it? That's the end of the season. We have a lot of travel coming up. Oh, I do, at least. Wait, what did you say? It was at the end of... End of July?

It was the end of July? Okay, so they pushed it back a few weeks. But that's the end of the season. And it's gonna come quick. So it's... Dude, the Call of Duty season, it just fucking... Again, time just moves so fast. Whatever happens with the actual, like, World Cup?

Like ESWC? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where? Like, is that thing actually happening? Is Call of Duty in it? I don't think we're. We're in it as of right now. Okay.

Oh, you mean like the, the EWC version, like the Nations Cup, Nations Cup. Yeah, I do remember that. I don't think Calla duty's in it right now. Okay. That's the one where it's like, uh, well, college is right there. World is like, it's, it's basically the World Cup. Hesoka. Isn't that Hesoka?

Yeah, but Warzone's not in it. Those are just thumbnails. I mean, Warzone, I feel bad for those guys. Holy shit. What's going on over there? Nothing. Absolutely nada. I don't know what needs to happen.

I don't know who needs to put their best foot forward. but whoever it is needs to do it because once they put everything into it, we at least get to see where it goes. It's not going to be a what if anymore if they just put their best foot forward and put money behind it, resources, whether it's more cameras, more tournaments, all of it. We want more of everything. We want to see it attempted. And then, of course, we could talk about it differently if it doesn't work.

Yeah, I feel like we're barking up a dead tree here, though. It's like, how many times do we have to have this conversation? Well, I do think right now we have this conversation. Every year. I feel like every podcast. I feel like we have the same conversation. Am I going crazy? I feel like we have this same conversation all the time.

We have talked about it a lot. I know. I just think challengers are just adding fuel to that fire now because everyone's so happy and excited with what challengers are bringing right now that it makes you yearn for that at the highest level as well with all these players, all these teams. But yeah, I mean, we all agree. We all love this shit just to make that clear.

It's because we want to see it in a good place. We want to see, I want 15-year-olds to feel like I felt when I was coming up. The dream. Like, Mom, I can go do this every day. I can make it. And I just think some of that's not there anymore. So hopefully, listen. All of that's not there.

I mean, again, you're looking at challengers. You got maybe one to four players a year will come up from challengers. and those players, it's like, do we even want to win in Challengers? Do we just want to play for ourselves and look good so I can get in the league? It's like, it just fucks up the whole ecosystem. Players aren't even playing to win nowadays

because it's like, I got to look good because if I don't look good, then I ain't going to get picked up. I don't want to sit here in Chauhundred percent. Fucked up. So it's like, it just ruins the whole ecosystem. Real quick, should we touch on the Optic Texas, LA Thieves match?

Because I feel like that was pretty important. Super quick. I just wanted to say about Warzone. Yeah. But like, dude, I used to watch Warzone, probably my main game. It was like my comfort game. I'd always go watch people play Warzone at night.

Now, I can't remember the last time I opened up Warzone. I like watching more than I like playing, but I enjoy Warzone shit. I don't know why the fuck it's... What's up for the vlog? I don't know why it's fucking ass. Who's that? That's Kirsch. Oh, God damn it.

But yeah, they have that new Avalon map or whatever coming out soon. They're saying it might be back to like blackout. which I just don't know. Speaking of BR, though, I just wanted to real quick highlight Apex champs because it was so sick to watch. Apex Endgame is one of the best e-sports moments every single time.

The Falcons and Hal choke a huge game seven and it loses them the tournament. They were on match point, 3V2V2. They're jumping on the guys and they can't get it done. And then there was a Cinderella story with, I don't know all the lore,

but a guy named Monsoon won it. And apparently that was crazy. printed around the venue. It's in Supporo, Japan, the capital of Hokkaido, 16,000 people there in person. It was just so sick to watch. I just wanted to talk. I love that. Because that was a big moment in these sports. I mean, Apex Champs. Fucking Adam was out there. They threw the event I think. Apex champs is late. Apex kind of has the same, because everyone's like Apex is dead. I think Call of Duty is a bigger e-sport than Apex right now on like a consistent basis. But their live events are still dope, which is the same with us. Like our live events are also sick. Our

majors, our champs, EWC, all of the live events are amazing to watch. It's just figuring out the in-betweens that keep people engaged and want it to watch. Gaming is so weird nowadays. I swear, it's like it's regressed over time, which is the opposite of what you would imagine because technology is better. You think it's regressed? I think it just spread apart now. I think more people are gaming now than ever.

There's so much different shit to play. There's the dark souls, Dark Souls, World of War Crows. Arc Raiders, Cod, Apex, League. I agree with that in a sense. God of war. But it's like the formats of leagues are all just like- Eastports you mean.

Like Apex, they only have three land events throughout the year, I think. Which is just like, it's crazy. I guess CS too, right? People really just care about the majors and the land tournaments. Yeah, but they have a lot. Yeah.

Like, they're... At the end of the day, we need more tournaments. Like, period. Five tournaments is not enough. Like, that way you have less of the online bullshit and more of the in-person, you get to go see your players, buy a jersey.

Like, that is so important. Go ahead. I was just going to say, CSs tournaments, they span like, dude, they can go a full month. They can go like two, three weeks of like, the first week is like pool play. The second week, it's like one match a day,

which, you know, but they go forever and it's a tournament, so you're always engaged because every match is important. Yeah. Yeah, and you've got to look back at what happened before, and we should move.

on because it's just going to be fucking repetitive. But competition is good. MLG competing is UMG. Yeah, that's another thing with the call-due ecosystem. I feel like cheaters just ruined, wagers and all of that. Everything is just... Yeah, definitely.

Like, people are playing console only because they're afraid to go get hacked on. It's like... The motherfuckers are still doing weird shit in that. It's just fucked, bro. Yeah, there's like AI, aim assist some people are using now. Like what? I'm good. I don't even play games.

It's just... Listen, man. It's a fucking grip. All they got to do is look at you. You have a cheating industry? You can't shoot straight with dynamic? I didn't realize how many people cheat, like how many weirdos there are. It's ridiculous.

It is a multi-billion dollar industry buying cheats and stuff. Is everyone just sick in the head? I just don't understand. And these humans are just walking among us and we don't know. No, but I just don't understand where the job comes from. I'm walking past hackers. Letting it crust. Bro, like, I don't see a single instance in which I, like, these people have to be the same people that they're like, you know, I'm going to set my watch 15 minutes late so that I can put a sense of version.

on myself and I'd be quicker to get the fuck out of it. Like, how do you fool yourself into feeling any sort of good from taking credit for something a machine did? Why even fucking play it at that point? Well, what is it? What is it? Because I don't know what the point.

Don't try to dive into that psyche because you'll lose your shit. The only acceptable cheats were the GTA button combos when you had the piece of paper and I'm writing down square X, triangle trigger. Okay, but you're playing against yourself, not against other people. That's the only form.

Once you start ruining someone else's day, just by being a weird. You're technically robbing them in a sense. Let's give them jail time. You're technically robbing them. Isn't there some countries where hacking is like jail, like jail level offense? What's up the ante? You want to hack. You better have a VPN to Guatemala, another one that bounces over to Madrid.

You know, like, you're technically robbing people. If you're playing for five bucks, you just stole $5 from them because you're cheating. Oh, yeah. Let's close it out Let's close it out by talking this Optic Texas Steve's match. I feel like that was pretty important in our world. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm worried about the boys right now. I ain't going to lie. I'm not. I'm not worried about the boys at all. I'm just worried from their past performances. Fuck, man. Okay. When you say worried...

Well, no. Because I get what you're saying. It's just... Good. Call of Duty is all about timing. Like, last year, what, phase won the first two major. then it was thieves and then and then it was us.

That's the ideal. Obviously you want to be good all year long, but you're working towards, you always want to be competitive and you're working towards peeking towards the end. You want to peak at the biggest tournament in the world. Champs culture is essentially everything in our world right now. And like, people are talking about Shotsie and I'm like,

okay, well, Shotsie is a very timing-based player. We're still in the very early part of our game. No one in their right mind, actually be worried about Shotsie's capability when he's won five rings over two different esports. You have to apply some common sense to these topics. Like who can Shotsie?

They're going to start thriving ideally now, but in a month from now, two months from now, when they know all the timings and they know exactly where you're going to be at all times where they know where they can slip through, that's where players like that are going to shine. As soon as...

And let me just go on my point a little bit. I was just kidding, but go on. I'm not worried about them in the long run, obviously, their team is fucking disgusting. I'm worried about the first major, because we've played two, we've played two top teams, and both times, I mean, we couldn't

even call thieves the top team at that point. We were like, thieves, we were kind of writing them off. We were like, yo. We weren't going to lie, we were. We were right to, just to be fair, like, it's high in sight now, but thieves looked like shit before a match. I mean, they're not six for just because. But they didn't look good.

We know this shit, don't we. If you go, watch their series from the weekend prior to they played us, they looked like a completely different team. Like those two teams put them side by side. They're pacing and everything, their confidence, they just looked like they were a different team against us.

And we were saying they're going to give us their best shot. Like, this is their redemption. This is their redemption series. Everything's been going a little weird for them. People are talking about, you know, Kenny and Abizi and how they're struggling. This was their series to prove like,

nah, my, we're still thieves. Like, we're still nice. And they did. We came out flat. And Kenny went crazy. I was actually surprised yesterday when I took when I, because again, I spent all day with Dashie. I was like, I was like, damn. Y'all let Ellie thieves win, right?

So they can feel confident going into the major and shit. And he's like, he was like, no, man. He got a little testy about it. I'm like, all right. So he cares. And I was like, yo, relax, man. I was like, yo, I was like, yo, chill out. Fucking worry when we're 019, okay?

Or we're getting close to 019. It don't matter what time of the year it is. You play any team that has players like that, I promise you, every single player on both teams is thinking about the long run. Obviously, they want to win that match, but they're trying to mental you. They're trying to, it starts in scrimms. Like, that's why going hard in practice, obviously you're improving. Demoralizing. Yeah, you're demoralizing them.

You fucking eight o them in scrims. You got to play them in a week on land. Now there's pressure on the line, and they know in the back of their minds they just got belt for an hour and a half straight. Yes. They're coming in like. Yeah. You're coming in like, yo. We run these kids.

They're coming in with just a different urgency. So that's why I'm a little worried because we've played phase. We've now played thieves. Both series didn't go well at all. We look shaky as fuck. And now we're about to play the major in a week and a half. And these two top teams have the mental upper edge against us. Which again, not worried.

It's our home major. Obviously, the green wall is going to help the boys give them energy. But it's like, it's just a little worrying because we can beat the midpack teams all day. We're looking at those teams when we play the top level of talent. The genocates. And we've lost the past two, which hasn't happened in a while. And I feel like out of all of the top teams, after that month-long Christmas break, we've regressed the most out of all the other top teams.

Also, can I see Shotsie and Hook on like a Blackheart or a Colossus? Like, can I just, like, we're watching Scar, we're watching exposure. Okay, sure. I'm not sure what's going on. I just want to see our super star SMGs and a, a close-range fight on a consistent basis. Yeah, we play SCAR a lot. We play SCAR a lot. We play SCAR and Expo a lot.

I want to say, I have a lot of respect for Kenny, bro, because he played Unreal against us. And to do that with the amount of hate he's been getting, it's not easy to deal with that amount of pressure. When the whole world's calling for your head, and there's tweets and there's posts, and to come out and play like that against us, he dropped 100 kills, like his best series by far on the year.

It sucks that it was against us, but I have a lot of respect. I mean, obviously not against us, but yeah. You backed in that corner and play like that when the lights are the brightest, all you can do is tip your hat. Yeah, because he pissed it was against us, but you got to give props. He was moving different, too. It wasn't like he was getting like freebie kills. Yeah, he was moving. He was going.

Like his POV, again, he just looked like a completely different Kenny. Like, he was chowling. Like, I don't even know how to describe it other than he was moving. Like his movement looked clean. He looked cracked. He was snappy. Like, Kenny looked good against us. I'm not worried about that.

He does. That's what Ken always does. He's like, all right, big series. He's in the shadow. They're talking shit on me? Shout out of my dog, Ken. Yeah, for real. He snapped. See, I think this. Jesus. I think the same about thieves. I think about us. I think about phase. I think about Toronto. Falcons is playing great right now.

I think all of these teams, that first match on land is so important. We come out huge, win a big match. None of this shit matters. Yeah. It's all a learning experience. It's all about getting the momentum once you sit on that stage. Call of Duty is... I'll always die on that hill. It's momentum and mental. Yeah, it's one of the most mental games that you can play. It's such a day-to-day e-sport. You could spawn in one day, your team looks amazing. You could spawn in the next day and just everything isn't working. Especially in this game. With the wall-bouncing movement spam, it's all flow.

And that's all just... That's why, like, big tournaments, you always see, like, there's always a defining series for a team that wins a tournament. It's always like a Game 5 grueler or a reverse sweep or just something that really just elevates everybody. and gets that belief across the team. And once that confidence is there, it's there. But that's why I'm a little worried about this, man, because past two series against top teams, it's been shaky. This is a cool storyline, though.

Like, there are teams that can still go toe to toe with what I would say is, like, the tournament favor right now. There's like eight or nine teams right now that can beat anyone can beat anyone. Like the fact that J-ZM-Bets throws my head for a world. You got Carolina beating Toronto. It's like, it's all up in the air right now. We got a major in two weeks. Anything can happen.

It's the first event of the season. You come out slow and someone, you come out slow against a G2 or Carolina. It's not as easy as, like, it starts the pressure mounts. Yeah, I'm curious to see, I'm really excited for our match this weekend. We only play one more match until the major,

and it's against Carolina. Carolina's been fresh roster. Obviously, Exceed comes in for Slasher, and they're three and no since. They beat Koi. So, like, they... Yeah, they look good. They look good.

And I hope that we come into that series I don't think we're gonna come in underestimating them just because we've heard their practice has been going well. They're 3 and 0 since their roster change. But this is a really big series for us. Like in terms of all right, get back on the right track, get a win

in the win column before the major against the good team, go in confident and then the green wall obviously that elevates our players. We've seen it happen before. And it's just not ours, right? Because we're not going to be on stage every match, right? So that same crowd is going to look to cheer on their next favorite or the favorite out of the two. Whether it's G2 versus Koi, they're going to pick G2, obviously.

Faze is going to get hated on just because Droz is on the team. Yeah, like it's going to, like, the normal shit's going to fucking happen. So it's like, you, if these players are going to have to play in front of a crowd and it's either going to be to their advantage or disadvantage and how they act on stage, it's going to be something completely different as it always is. Damn, man, I can't wait. Can't wait. I can't wait.

I can't wait. Nine days. Nine days. Nine days. We're waking up and it's major time. Finally. It's at our house as well. I feel like the season doesn't even start until that first major hits.

Then you're like, all right, now we saw land, now we saw some shit talk. Then you go back. Now you see some like some storylines, which they're already there, but get to see it unfold in person. Yeah. I can't wait. And then the second splits around Robin, they play every single team. Yep. Which is going to be.

I like that. That's going to be a lot of cod. A lot of cod. So like it's still like slow drip league match, but it's just way more matches. It's three, four, three every week for five or six. weekend straight. And then the major right after. A lot of call duty. Yeah. Super excited. Obviously, it's a parting token.

Oh, that's fire. I want to give me one of those. This is yours, man, right here. Hell, you know. We got sleeve hits on the back. We have a full collage of majority of our logos. It's pretty, we went hard on this one. Yeah, I was fired, as a tournament, as a tournament t-shirt. So make sure that you show up. Make sure that you cop it even if you can't. I love a nice long sleeve, like, t-shirt like that. Same. I love it.

Same. Not like. And it's chilly right now. It's like perfect. It's cold. Boy, you got to love it. Oh, you got to love it. All right.

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