OpTic Podcast - Nations Cup Coming to COD!? Mr. Beast is an OpTic Fan? | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 239

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

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Yeah. What about you wait? I mean, I'm not even trying to be weird, but like, when she goes to the bathroom? I mean, she goes to the bathroom off the camera. She doesn't take the camera with her to the bathroom, bro. That was a brain. That was crazy. When do you go to the bathroom when you're streaming?

That was one of the words, man. Anyway, congrats to her on the consistent success. And ex-QC. That's how we started talking about it. See you. Congrats. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 239 of the Optic Podcast. I'm joined by the gentleman, controller player, the decade, Quava, Shotsie. Mercury's calls you Quave.

You guys have a little thing going on. By Jersey, Duo Money B, and live for 23 days and counting days. Yeah, it's been insane. I've been tuning into some of the Eldon Ring late night. Really? A little bit. Appreciate that. Yeah, it's been insane.

Yo, congratulations. I don't know if I said it. Congratulations. Congratulations, man. The controller player of the decade is crazy. No, no, ain't nothing too crazy. Imperial Hal. Imperial Hal got fucking smoked.

So sorry, Philip. I wonder what the Coats or the voting was. Because I know it was like a panel and then it's also fan voting. They have a panel and then one of the, I think one of the seats on the panel is the fan voted. That's how it used to be. It's heavily panel, I think. Yeah. Oh, it's heavily panel?

I think so. Because if it was heavily fan vote, it would just be so skewed and like you wouldn't be able to actually. No, that's actually. It would just go based on band base, but, I mean, you deserve it, man. I don't want to gas you up too much. Someone's got to keep you humble, but four-time world champ, three and God, one in the Halo, two-time MVP. Why, why don't they do the fucking my championships? What do you mean?

Like your regular championships? Oh, yeah. Just your world champs. I mean. That's just Joey. He's taking his eye off the ball recently. He really has been. All good, Joey.

All good. But now, congrats, man. I saw who else. nature, I won personality the decade? That's crazy. Who won team the decade? Liquid. Liquid?

Okay. Yeah. Don't agree with that one, but... Yeah. Do they have other big esports? Yeah, I mean, Liquid's like... I think like the reason people want every

e-sport to be in every... Org to be in every e-sports is because Liquid did it. Like, Liquid has a team. in every fucking esports or they did at one point they were like the first people to do it I don't like them TSM cloud nine like that whole time brother I had no idea that was going on today this is how he found out he's just losing and vow

a long time bro I'm gonna genuinely you had no idea that yeah yeah award show was happening today and I feel kind of silly for that but I just want to say thank you to everybody that's been rocking with me for the last that is dope decades that award oh yeah way you see over it good for him wait and why are you why didn't why did you get up when you were not because before I was like I was like I hope I don't win the shit because I didn't try to see my interview and then I won I was like oh shit because I actually didn't I actually didn't know if I was going to learn or not like truly yeah because like everyone before this um you're like so so so submit an interview and stuff like that.

Yeah. And then when I won, people were like, oh, like, uh, you knew you won about like, bro, I literally knew that I, like, we, we had to do interview. So, yeah, that's why I got up. I wasn't trying to rewatch myself. I mean, I won like a star-studded cast, too. Go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did.

I knew I won the first one. Like, they told us like, like, very, very back in the day, they were like, hey, come to the event, you know? And they, and they would, like, wink at you kind of. Now they don't do that anymore. They don't do that anymore. They completely stopped doing that because I did the second, I had no idea we were winning or I won the second one and then the team, the org of the year, I had no idea we were winning

org of the year either. So is there two Eastports Awards now per year? Like is there, because it was always in Vegas or L.A. I think they would have two now, right? Now, now it's in Saudi, right? Yeah, that's what, that's what I was confused about. I know you're talking about. I think there are two.

I think they do one in the U.S. I think there's like a special one and then like e-sports. awards because this is like the special one of the year right one e-sport well well did they also announce like the regular like year awards or is that a different i do i've seen a bunch of like no you might be thinking about like the yeah no yeah i think they're talking about the contract creator no i'm thinking about like the not of the decade just like the year normal yeah like the normal esports awards because this was obviously unique it was decade awards yeah got you okay Well, congrats to you, Ann.

Congrats to our boy, Matt. These are... Slokia is, it's a close rule. Wait, can you press nominees for ants and Matt? Just so we can see, like, actually, how Star Studded. I think, look nominees under. There you go. Yeah.

Scump, Sonic Fox, Simp, Shotsie, Hungry Box, formal, Imperial Hal, Crim. Turboposa. K-Dop and Snakebite. Wow. Yeah. That's a star-sutter group. That's insane.

To hoist that is impressed and then Nate shot you had. I mean, Nate, damn. That is crazy. Faker, a bye, scump. That is crazy. Fallin simple, Terek, Hex. I mean, that's crazy.

Damn. Good on him, man. Good on him. Shut on Nate Scho. That XQC won streamer the decade. See? There's just so many. Like, how do you actually pick the winner of that?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, that streamer. of the decade, there's so many. Like, I feel like I'm not even kidding. And this is my probably, obviously, I don't know some of the people respectfully, but I see like 10 names at least that could have won

and I wouldn't have questioned it. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how Ninja did it with that. XQC, Poked, Summit, Tarek, Tyler won, Tim. Any single one of those could have won. And I think that makes sense. It probably came down to like consistency, maybe, because I swear, yo, if you got, if you pull up this guy's

like, thing, he's stop. He's Holy fuck. He doesn't stop. He actually doesn't stop. Yeah, he doesn't stop. He actually doesn't. He actually doesn't. He actually doesn't.

You ever see Myths impression to him? Yeah. It's perfect. He goes to drive-thru. He's, I can't do it, but it's amazing. Oh, yeah, I've actually said that shit, too. That shit's funny. Yeah, this guy doesn't get offline.

Fair play. How do you, uh... How do you tell how many hours he streamed? Last 14 days he streamed, how many? Last 30 days. Oh, this follower. Oh, this. There's, there's all follower count.

There's, there is a website out there because I remember, I remember, uh, looking it up when, when Emily C.C went viral. She's a, she's a girl who's never got off stream. She's been live for four years or three years. Oh my God. That's fucking. And there's like, there's a, I think it is stream charts. Yeah, there's like a, it shows like how many days you go live.

Four years is crazy. It shows how many days you go live and like, if, if you stream like 12 hours in a day, it's like dark purses. Okay. And if you only stream like four hours, it's like light purple her shit is just it's just a wall That would be mine. It's like Zen streams a shit ton it's all light purple three hours streams I pulled up maniacs and he's he's he's dark purple for one week and then it's just blank For like a month is 172 hours and 26 days damn that guy loves it well what is a What's his most popular game?

the blue oh it's just chatting just chatting he's been grinding clash royale which is that girl that girl is still uh yeah pull her up right now she's still live Emily see what did she do Twitch dot TV slash Emily cc lives she just lives so you so she hasn't yeah like what do you mean is she leaves she IRLs it yeah everything she's a Truman show did she sleep on stream and stuff yeah oh so there's nothing you don't see besides yeah yeah the obvious I'm crazy.

Which, how big you? I was going to say so. Ha ha. You're crazy. Look at the top left of her stream. That's her sub-a-thon. Y'all are insane. He's crazy.

I think there's a clip of T-Pain. Because T-Pain was like, oh, that girl, Emily C-C. That girl, Emily C-C, she never flicked that bean. Oh, that's a... Oh, that's a... And she saw the clip. And went, oh. That's insane.

That is insane. Yeah. Yeah, she's a awesome, man. I mean, hey, that's a different level of dedication, man. I respect the fuck out of that. Yeah. Nothing but respect. Yeah.

That's crazy. That's insane, dude. That's fuck. She just went viral recently. Didn't Kai shout her out? Yeah, Kai and Benny Blanco. Because Vinnie Blanco was on Kai stream and he was like, yo, chat, who's like been streaming the most?

and then the chat told both of them. Kai didn't know who she was either. So like what's like does she ever plan on? I don't know. Is there a goal at what she's done? I'm trying to get her on around the bar. We've almost done it like three or four times because she's in Austin.

But every time she's about to come over here and do it, she like has to go somewhere. Like she was part of the streamer university thing that Kai did. Oh, she actually. And then she's like, I mean, She's getting all these opportunities now, which is dope. But, like, you know how they have that bus from Austin to here?

One that tush takes? That tush takes. It has, like, Wi-Fi and shit. Like, she was like, well, how am I going to be able to stream? And I'm like, yeah, just take the bus. And then they have, like, Wi-Fi. And then she streams on the way here. She's like, can I stream the pod?

I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's what you do. Of course, yeah. It's going to be insane. That's awesome, though. Yeah. And just, I just wonder, because if she's been doing it for four years, when's like the, all right, guys, I'm going to get off. Yeah.

That's gonna be like, I didn't want to ask her. She hasn't gotten off in four years. Double entendre. Is she ever gonna be like, ah? I wonder, like, like imagine that, because if you're one of her,

if you're one of her regular viewers, you've never heard her say, all right, guys, I'm getting off. No. The first time, like, what? Halo makes it. I tuned in, like when she went viral,

like I tuned in at one point and her stream title was, have COVID. She just had COVID and she was just still streaming. Hell yeah. Just like sick in bed fucking stuff on her face like to

like help her fever. She's just streaming life full time. Just life full time. That is insane. It has to have like messed with her mind right? At this point. Some sort of like PTSD. I mean there's got to be some type of like. She probably

feels like she's on camera at all time. like yeah well she is but like when she does end it she's not even trying to be weird but like when she goes when she goes to the bathroom off the camera she doesn't take the camera with her to the bathroom you know that was braided you know that was insane when do you go to the bathroom when you're streaming that was one of the words man anyway congrats to her on the consistent success and ex QC that's how we started talking about it Congrats. Taylor Swift got engaged to Travis Kelsey today. And that is so important.

That's W. Wait, really? It's huge. Wait, why? I mean... Well, it's just, you know, she has a big fan base. He has a fan base. That's how you do it, Travis. Secure that bigotty.

I will say, these are... My man. These are incredible photos. Like, these photos are sick. Blake did a good job. Yeah, shout out to Blake. Yeah, he went out of that. You imagine.

I wonder how much this photographer got paid. It's probably a nice day. A lot. Oh, this one comes across the table. Oh, bro. I'm buying lenses. Blake was telling me, like, where him and Steph are trying to get to, like, with... Did he get photo credit or she? Did the photographer get photo credit? Imagine? Is that photo credit alone is worth millions of dollars?

No, no, no. They didn't get... No, Blake and Steph were telling me about, like, the wedding photography business and, like, where they're trying to get to? And he was like, yeah, like, there's this one photographer in California. That's who, like, everybody uses, like, all the high-end, people like like fucking 40k a wedding oh i bet 40k a day yeah probably the best photos ever though but still that's insane you know i saw a post and i'm actually curious because like we're talking about tipping culture and how like now tipping feels like more like an obligation than like uh like at starbucks when they flip and i will say i kind of agree because when that fucking screen flips and

i'm staring at a human that just flip the screen i can't press no tip me personally i just I feel bad doing it. I can. It depends. If I'm there. I started doing it for like coffee. If I'm paying like eight bucks for a coffee, I'm like, here's my thing. I do it for small businesses.

Yeah. If it's a small business, no problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Delivery, obviously, no matter what. Of course. And then like, it depends on the service. If I'm there eating and, you know, I have a server, of course, I'll tip. Right, right.

But if I'm going to pick it up, it depends on the process. Like, what's going on? And if they're active. that day. I'll look around, you know, how the person's talking to me a bit. I, 25, you know, but. You know what I did stop doing was like, you know when you go to HEB or like, or like, like, firehouse subs? Well, firehouse is a little different, but HEB and then after you're done, like paying, they're like, do you want to donate two dollars to charity? You want to round up. Or round up to charity. Fuck no. No. You're a billion dollar business.

Like, why am I going to you to do it anyway? If I want to do charity, I'll just go directly to them. I'll make sure it gets right to them. Why don't you giving you the money? I can't lie. And maybe I'm crazy. I just don't trust that it's like getting there? Yeah, that's maybe I'm like crazy for that.

I don't know if that's thing about it. Every million, every billion dollar corporation has their own charity. And there's a reason for that. Shave off, you know, five, 10 sand off. Yeah. Let's make an oil here. There's a charity here. Put money in there.

Where'd that money go? follow into the charity. Okay, taxman doesn't do his thing. I don't know. There's a way. What I was initially saying, though, is like a wedding photographer, for example, right? They set their own prices, right? Yeah. So it's like, okay, if I'm paying a wedding photographer $3,000, because that's what they said, right? Am I supposed to tip 20% on top of that? And some people are like, yes, some people are like, no. And then I started thinking about my barber, and I'm like, okay, my barber's went from 70 bucks to 80 bucks. So I used to give them 80, 85 after the original 70 with the tip. Now with you, he went up to 80.

95. So now if I tip it's 90, 95. I'm like, hold on here. What's going on? It's true. So did you tip your barber? Yeah, I do. I do.

But the conversation was about situations like that where someone who's like self-employed sets their own prices. Are you supposed to tip on top of their already set price? And that was like the whole. And it got me thinking. I'm like, okay. I'm the same way, though. I'm like in the middle.

I don't know how to feel about it. the barber i'm never i'm never gonna fuck him up and if like if it's a day where it's like yo give me in friday please like you know i come here all the time and he gets me in always i throw extra on top of what i normally tip always but if it's like a normal i book it just standard 20 whatever i could do whatever I just fucking around But I really got me thank you man No yeah I do the same shit

Whenever they flip the screen Honestly I just do whatever's default Yeah it's Yeah sometimes Bro when I flip when the only time I'll get pissed Is when they flip the screen And it starts at 20% It's like 20%, 30%

Like 40%, which they do that in Vegas They do that in Vegas? And I'm like fuck no And I hit other and zero Like I don't do a five I just think that... Sure. It's just crazy.

Like, it's just the U.S. Like, if you go to London, you don't... Like, tipping is not like a... I will say... ...expected thing because they all get paid like an actual wage. You know what I'm saying?

Like a living wage? I will say I worked at Jason's deli and at one point, they like put me in the to-go section. And on the to-go section, they had a tip. Like, they had like receipts with a tip. And I worked there one day.

and I served or I checked out probably like 30 people and like four people left a tip and I went home with 30 bucks cash for the first time since working there and ever since that and I remember like how much I wanted like needed that and ever since that day I'm like all right like if I if I see the cashier and I know they're getting that money like if you hit tip most of the time the cashier is getting that money and they're going home with it or at least that's how I see it see I that I I That's how I judge it to. Like if I know it's going to this person. Right, right, exactly. Yeah. It's different. Like this dude. But how do you know if it is or not?

I mean, that's just how it was at Jason's when I worked there. No. And I normally worked like the regular line and you don't get, you don't, that can't happen. Like, you don't get paid out like that. I mean, they get me every time. I mean, like, realistically, I can't think of a time recently where I actually press no tip. You know what I'm saying? I'm always, it's always.

I'm trying to think. Usually just 20%. no matter what it is. Especially if a human's holding it. Coffee. If a humans holding it, I'm like... Well, that's the thing. It's different when, like, if you go to McDonald's and it's just like that screen and

there's no one there, some... Yeah, no, no, no, no tip. But if someone flips that screen around, always. But that's the whole... I saw like a thread and that was the whole debate about... And everyone was... Some people are like... You know, it's very split in terms of what people think about that, so...

So, how's all... Off season been for you guys? Boring? Boring? Streaming-wise, boring, but I'm enjoying as much as I can because I know when it's in season, it's just a grind. It's a fucking dirty grind. I mean, Zinn knows that is.

Well, no, the off-season as a player is the best. Yeah. Because the off-season, well, I mean, I don't need a stream. You're like a player and streamer. Yeah. Yeah, you just. So it's a little more unique. But I feel like as a player, okay, I'm going to use myself as an example.

when I was a player I was mentally able to enjoy the offseason more because I felt like I could oh like the season's coming up whatever as a streamer now there kind of is no off season in the sense where it's like yeah like as a player aunt could probably disappear for a month

and be able to like mentally be like okay that's the off season whereas me I can't do that I did go on vacation Hawaii that was amazing but I've been playing Black Ops 4-8s for you've been playing Black Ops 4-8s every single night nonstop I can't stop

like nine hours yep PC with a client that gives you aim assist it feels amazing really it feels fantastic so I've literally

just been grinding black ops four tens nonstop like are you do y'all play like the actual rule set and stuff yeah it's literally

we're playing black ops four in 2025 oh shit I didn't even know that yeah I'd be done my own world playing would exceed sib

craze vivid basically the guys who I usually play Cold War off season with is who I've been grinding black cops for with. That sounds mad. I've been on Madden.

It's been a ton of fun. You've been on Madden? Getting ready for the football season? I mean, that's what they said. I like to say. But, I mean, I fuck with it, though. Madden's cool. It's more realistic.

Here I am. This feels good, though. Oh, dude, it feels amazing. Really? Well, and it felt especially good to play this on stream now because I'm actually like playing good. Whereas during the legacy match,

I'm just getting bombarded saying, you are terrible. I'm like, man, I wish you guys could. You know what, Mason, fuck you. Because he's out there. pissing on everybody and I'm like guys I can't shoot street and they're like well he's got no problem I'm like yeah I don't get how well he's don't don't know don't is kips in this oh that's his name see that I actually like I mean strictly from a spectator perspective well is this for fun

right or money for money oh yeah y'all are playing everything like usually when people go back and play like like no no specialist no you know like they try to bare bones it, but you guys are like playing playing. Yeah, no, this is, we are playing the game as it was played in the pro league essentially, just in eight. Oh, fuck yeah. And it's been a... Shit looks mad fun. It's been a ton of fun. The quality looks great, too.

No, dude, it is, I can tell you guys how to do it. This is like fantastic. It feels actually amazing. It's like when we downloaded the Mono for 2 client, TST smoked you, Asim, and Zuma for a little bit. I do remember that. I do remember that. Y'all got a map eventually, but... You guys are good. Yeah, MW19, you guys are good.

Yeah, just those two. That's it. Just those two. Just those two. I was playing, we were testing the legacy match set-ups. I'm here with the whole production team. And Rodgers like, you know, can you come like and play some blackups two, eights, like with all of us? I was like, yeah, that sounds so fun.

I was here for 15 maps. One zero games. Oh, jeez. What? One zero games. What? Riley was giving me nothing. I saw.

Riley was giving me nothing. I saw you had a huge resurgence on Black Ops 2. You were frying in Black Ops 2 apparently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I kept seeing on Twitter. Because me and you, we kept talking. Like, bro, we played Black Ops 4 and, uh... What else we played?

Yeah, I started off a map like 17 and 3 or some shit. What was the other game we played? Black Ops 4 and... They threw Bowen games that he had never played, like that he wasn't... And AW. Playing. AW? Someone, I would be shooting at someone and they double jump and it was done to me.

There was no possible way I could, I could chase... Do you on consoles as you fucked. Trace that guy. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, it's crazy that you all played comps. Bro, yeah, I know. That's what I'm thinking. Like, fuck.

Like, during those times, that shit felt like butter. Yeah. Like, what happened? Yeah, I guess back in the day, it just felt nice. I don't know. But I don't get how,

like, what the shit is crazy? I don't get how Mason was playing that way. Because I'm talking, people, people that were standing still, I was nervous. I was like, oh, no, I hope when I get turned on.

Every single time I was shooting at somewhere. Yeah, me too. I watched it back and Mason. Yeah. I was like, how is he doing that on that? It doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. But I will say right now, I feel like, so we have like a month of offseason hell is what I'd call it.

Hopefully Rastermania kicks back up because we have no idea what like five teams you're doing. So I feel like that's going to be a little bit of fun to talk about. We need the beta. We need the beta. Cod next end of September and then beta like October 2nd. So I feel like we just get through this month and then we're kind of right back into the period where we want to be. Yeah. Yeah, there's a little bit more hype going into October.

Fuck, yeah. I'm gonna be grinding that shit. Are you guys doing race to prestige again? I mean, that's, I would assume so. I would hope so. I mean, that was a blast. I mean, the beta, I'm gonna, of course, grind, but... What was your favorite moment that you could remember?

From the race to master prestige? Hmm. I dropped the nuke. That was probably my favorite moment. Because I was on my graveyard shift. I thought you were talking about shit. What was my favorite moment? What was my favorite moment?

What? Definitely not when Blake and George showed up. Blake and George showed up at 4 a.m. And they showed no, they didn't care that anybody was sleeping. It was like they had pots and pans. I thought he was overreacting. He did that like every morning. They walked in ready to go. And then Daltush fucking Seabum was doing burpees at six in the morning.

Tush would wake up at-snickers squeaking everywhere. I'm just like. Tush would wake up at 6 a.m. and do burpees. Burpees and like ride the like spinny bike He would do like four miles on the bike And he was breathing like Arnold And we have the boom mic

So the boom mic so the boom mic Can hear the whole The whole room And so They would hear like people snoring And then Tush Tush is doing burpees So all they're hearing is

Like in the mic That's actually that's gonna be the issue Like where What am I gonna do Because I snore I'm asleep in that room over there I like No you're your bottom bum

Bro, I was, apparently I was... Can you get me the CBAP or whatever, the fatty machine? No, I'm literally getting a CPAP. Wait, could we get two of them? How do we do it? Well, how do I do it? You gotta do a sleep test. I'm pretty sure you need to actually have sleepbats.

Like, if you snore, you like basically have it. Can I prime? From what I hear, right? Yeah, sleep at you. What? Can I prime this machine? What do you see that? What's sleep?

You gotta go to like the doctor. CPAP is like a machine. What? This isn't for the public. Oh, no. I don't think so. Wait, Riley, can you look up? Can you just buy a seat up?

I don't think so. What is this? This was probably my favorite part. When Tammy came out to play. This is Halloween night. This is Halloween night. Yeah, this is this. What?

What would you be doing? I'd be streaming playing with. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I can't see Bose be in there. Yeah. I literally have handcuffs on and I am in a grandma's suit with a pregnancy belly. on. Oh, this was actually so fun, man. And look at Seth,

bro, just locked. I will say one of the best feelings every day was like, the shower. Like, that one hour a day just to go shower and just like breathe for a moment was fantastic. Are we doing the Johnny on the spot for this one? Go back to that. Johnny on the spot. Really? What's that? Put a bathroom right

in the middle. Remember Seth was playing? Are those ear butts? Imagine that? That'd be bad. Davis, are those headphones? Where? Around my neck? Yeah. No, that's a a cool air neck pad really yeah because I was so

nervous because I run really hot and I was so nervous about being here with everybody and like profusely sweating so I bought that before and I would just keep it around my neck during my shift and it was just blowing cold air on me like oh really yeah I'm gonna have to get that one too it's fire

I would wear that everywhere it is a little loud especially with the boom mic it was like because I would crank that shit like highest setting and so people on the graveyard shift because I mean the chats

died down a little bit we had our we had our little community on our graveyard shift but they would be like what's that noise it's just vvv while I'm playing yeah there's a few things

you gotta iron out before I had to now you guys the first night was bad like one room is gonna no I think my first like no it was actually lit to watch that

whenever you guys did the IRRL version oh going to Target That was fun. That was really fun. That was a shit ton of fun. That was actually lit. It's possible.

It's not possible to buy a CPAP. Yeah, you got out of prescription. So what is sleep apnea? I mean, that's probably a terrible question. That's like, would you struggle to breathe when you sleep? Yeah, it's the amount of oxygen that you intake or like the percentage of oxygen that you intake while you're asleep, I think. Okay.

I did my at-home sleep test and then they said I got down to only, like 90%, which is not good. Oxygen? Yeah, yeah, 90% oxygen, like, while I'm sleeping. So do you sleep? Is it at home? What? Do you use this at home? No, I haven't gotten the insurance, my insurance doesn't cover it, so I have to pay out of pocket.

How much does it run you? Nine hundred? I think it's going to be, the test is going to be like $900, and then the sleep apnea machine is either like another 900 or like $1,500. That's when you really see how crazy somebody's prices are. It's when your insurance doesn't cover it, and it's like, hey, this is going to run you three grand and you're like what the fuck in this machine it's a mask yeah there's different

kinds there's like a full mask you look like Darth Vader and shit I need that job I brought apparently from what I've heard it's like life changing like you wake up with more oh see this is insane pop yeah it's gonna be you yeah like alien earth because you know more the worst part is some of them are like nose only and I also can't breathe through my That one right there, a little nostril. Oh, shit. My boy, Daltoosia there? This is, this looks like fucking intent of care.

Apparently, apparently it's life-changing, though. Well, you didn't think it looked like that? I thought it was just like a mouthpiece. But you know Faddy has one? He looks like Baron Harkening when he's... I can imagine. Got the mask on. Yeah, seriously.

Big ass. Yeah, I tweeted about it. I was like, sounds like a generator. I tweeted about like, yo, like, who's got C-Pats and like, how does it, how does it work? And Fattie DM me. He said it's changed my life. Really? I mean, I love, there he is.

Come on, bro. There he is, my boy. Yeah, we're going to have to, I'm going to have to get on that then, Davis. Check that out. So there's nothing better than the C-V, there's nothing else, like, in between that'll help me. There's nothing else. Got to hit that doctor. You got to jump in deep.

You got to hit that doctor. Whatever you wake up, like, you could tell? I can't, I mean, I don't know. Do you ever wake up with headaches, Davis? What? Do you ever wake up with headaches? Yeah, headaches and like, I don't know, like something. I mean, I don't know.

Apparently, you don't notice it until you don't notice, like, how much more energy you have. Well, I know, hopefully the comments will be given us. Yeah, yeah. There's going to be some. There's going to be some. Some people like. Apparently my shit's terrible. Really?

Like, really bad. And it's noticeable. Like, are you dying? Yeah. No, Alexis will shake me. I've been told like, holy shit. Wait, so wait, is it only for people to snore? It's just how much, I think snoring is a big part of it,

but it's also like how much oxygen you're getting while you're sleeping. Because like sometimes you're like, you ever wake up like that? Because why I went to the sleep doctor is because I kept waking up like, like that. Really? Yeah, and I thought it was anxiety. But then they, I went to the doctor and they were like,

I think we think it's sleep apnea. So because like I would, but I was, But I also snore, like, pretty loudly. So it, I probably, I mean, I definitely need it. Luckily, like, I don't have to impress anybody, so I don't mind throwing on a Darth See, but my, I only snore at night, though. Imagine, like, first date? One night stand?

Imagine, like, one night standover, you're like, all right, babe. And you put on. You got on, like, hit it? The degenerator. It's just fucking cranking. Fill it with gasoline She's in the living room And you're like

Oh shit It's on the bed I'm gonna go to the bathroom Okay Right back You're like some machine laid out Stop it in the closet That is awesome

That is awesome That is hilarious That shit is so funny Oh man Have you read sleep paralysis No I've never had it Thank God I had it on a plane

once. What? Yeah. Hey, bro, I was going to LA, right? And I took a nap on the plane. And bro, I could hear people walking around everything, but I couldn't get my eyes to open or move. It was weird as how I'm like, I'm trying to like shake my body to like get myself to like up. And like, bro, I had to like fully max out, like just relax at the hardest I get in, bro. And then finally I was able to like just wake up. But I just felt stuck. It wasn't like scary or nothing. I just literally felt like I'm stuck. Like, you get them? Oh, yeah.

So I probably get them, like once a month maybe. What? No. So I'll tell you how, I'll tell you my exact situation. When I get sleep paralysis, I'm in my bed. Kate's next to me. It's like I was awake. Like, that's how it feels.

Wait, but like, but what is your body doing? Like, your eyes are open or are you sleeping at that point? My eyes are open. Okay. So you're awake in the? Bad. Wait. They're open. Real quick. How do you sleep? Just real quick. So they say it usually only happens when you're on your back. And I do fall asleep on my back. Yep. Like a lot. That's why I had to change too. So it was happening to me.

So I keep the bathroom door open. So bathroom door to my left and I keep the front door open, mirror in front of it. The way it usually always works is the figure starts approaching and I start freaking out and I'm like trying to move and make noise and like scream to wake Kate up or I wake myself. self up and it never works so I close my eyes and I feel like the figure next to me and non-stop I'm just like fighting to wake up and the thing what's crazy is in that sleep paralysis I'll like wake up but I'm still on the sleep paralysis so it's like a fake wake up it'll happen again and then I'll finally actually be able to wake up yeah yeah like it's I what do you mean a figure though what do you mean a figure like a dark figure yeah just like like something starts approaching from the bathroom

Grab, like, my arm. Can you feel it? Wait, can you feel it? Yeah. Wait, what was yours like that? You can feel, like that? Figure grab you? Nah, I don't know.

I don't feel like that. What the fuck? Yeah. Wait, what was yours like that? Mine's literally exactly like yours. You're just paralyzed, right? You literally can't do a single thing. That's the most age shit.

Literally like, I swear. Yeah, that's how you feel. It's like, what the fuck? I've only, I've only had it like three times. But every single time I was on my back. And that's why. I just like go like this dude one time I think I think we were in Australia

when I was filming the team I had never even heard of sleep paralysis before and formal was like tweaking and he was like smoking a sick and he was like dude I I like I'm still like anxious and I was like what happened he was like I just had sleep paralysis for like the second or third time of my life

and I was like what is it he was like you're awake but you can't move and there's like things coming like people coming at you like to kill you And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's actually terrifying. He was like, yeah, the first time I got it, like, Hastro had to pull me out of it because, like, he was on envy.

He was like, Hasbro pulled me out of sleep paralysis. And I'm, and at this point, I'm 24. I'd never heard of this. And I was like, I think you're possessed. I think you have a demon chasing you. Like, I'd never even heard of it. Well, I'm pretty sure a lot of the time you wouldn't even know. Like, so, for example, when I'm sitting there, like,

panicking, trying to wake and I'm moving my, they say, like, you're supposed to move your toes. but that shit doesn't work. I'm moving my toes. I'm like I'm screaming. I'm trying to turn over whatever I'm pretty sure that if Kate were to watch me do that it would be like nothing I'm just sleeping. Right. Yeah, that's what I was about. But I'm actually trying to wake up but I you wouldn't be able to tell from the outside. Yeah, yeah. I always wondered that when I was a teenager like if I have a wet dream, am I just and then just like I mean like I always wondered that. Yeah. I mean, that's a good point. Yeah, I don't know. Do we know the answer? I don't know.

Nah, I have no idea. You're definitely doing- Just railing your bed? Nah, you're definitely like thrusting shit? You're definitely thrusting the fuck of that shit That's fucking caught I've only had one wet dream bro, one and I only had one I never had one I've only had one I've only had one. What? And it was crazy because I was like, bro, what the fuck like? I don't know that was I never had one I think I've only had one as well I never had one I was like 16, 17? bro when I was when I was 14 I had one and I stood up and passed out

I had a I had a wet room and I stood up really fast because I didn't know what had happened and I passed out on the floor so then from the time I was 14 until I was 17 I was very scared of ejaculating because I thought that I would pass out every that happened to me so like whenever it would happen I would lay in bed like this just Because I was so scared to move. You had multiple wet dreams? What the hell? Soking.

I had a bad, well... I'd never had one. I sort of got on everything. One time when I was 17, I was pissing in my dream, woke up to a fucking... Oh, I thought you meant... He said it. He said nutting on you. Oh, yeah, no, no.

That's what we're talking about. But I'm changing it to where when I was 17, I was pissing in my dream. Oh, yeah. And I woke up in a bed of piss. Yeah, that's happened to me too. Oh, you know, I've never done that. That happened. 17 years old, I was like...

All my wet dream. Oh, no, not my wet dream. My piss myself dreams are always like that. I'll be in my dream pissing. Wake up. I'm pissing on myself. What the fuck? Yo, I swear to God, that she used to be some dumb ass shit.

What goes on? Like, how are dreams are real? Bro. Alexis has, Alexis has like night terrors, and she's scared to go to bed. What? That's terrifying. Almost every night she's scared to go to bed because she has, like, such intense nightmares. We have you.

That's one of those where you could Can you tell she's having one? Yeah. Right? I pull her out of it all the time. She'll start like, and I'm like, hey, hey, yeah. Yeah, it's real, it's real.

The other day I had a weird dream. I don't even remember. I was in the garage. Like in my car, a cop car backs in. I wake up. No, I didn't wake up. I don't remember after that part. I know my heart was like racing a little bit.

I think I may have woke up. I don't remember. The dream starts up again. I'm walking in my apartment, my front door. I look to my left, see a girl's body on the ground, and then just immediately wake up. Oh, shit. I'm like, what the fuck? There's no better feeling than having a nightmare waking up.

Oh, yeah. And then there's no worse feeling? When you're having a great dream and then you wake up. That's the worst. I have one I always think about it. And then you go back to bed and you're fucking praying. You just go back in? Like just resume?

I'll have ones where I'm like playing soccer and I'm like in the intense. game and like I'm like about to win and then I wake up I'm like dog I can like sing and shit I got a crowd in front of me I'm like the weekend I'm this wake up loser wait you ever had like a dream that felt so real to where like you had to like you sat there for a second like thinking about it yeah hell yeah yeah happens to me all the time you have dreams that ruin your day yeah yeah like you think about it was too good you're like oh what the fuck I'm not that's not me. Damn. Yeah, I had dreams like that.

I was flying private. And I have certain ones I remember. Really weird. Flying private. I am Seth. I wake up in Seth's fucking mansion. Gosh. Oh my God. Trey Arc developers on why PICTin has a return.

Yeah. I saw people talking about this. They interviewed devs on Treyarch. And they said they're not convinced that PICT is better. I think this is bullshit. I think this is a dev being like, I... Nah, see, I would usually agree with you, but the dev who's actually saying that is like one of our biggest proponents

in competitive Call of Duty. Like the best top two dev we've ever dealt with in terms of like, I can DM him whenever I like... Oh, really? Like he is... That's why I think it's genuine. And it does kind of make sense because they probably have so much data

where if you're a casual player, what he basically said was like right now if you're a casual player you go fill out your load out and that's it pick 10 makes it so you're like wait I can't use that and I can use this and I have to not use that to use that to use this

and it adds a complexity to it that they don't want to put on the casuals I think I mean that makes sense honestly that kind of makes sense yeah I mean it definitely could be confusing for new people as

did you play in Black Ops sir Black Ops what Three? Yeah. What do you think of the pick 10 or whatever? I mean, pick 10 was awesome. Once again, like, I've been saying this a lot on stream, and I think my perspective has changed a bit as a creator.

Because as a player, you're all, as a player, the only thing you really care about is, like, your team and, like, what actually affects you and if it'll help you win or whatever maybe. I feel like we don't really have, like, the game within the game anymore. Like, it's so gunfight reliant. And, like, the only storyline is, oh, my God, Shotsie kills, Hydra in the back, he gets spawns. Whereas if you think about ghosts, for example, let me just give you a normal round, an octane S&D. Okay, dash, he's going to go thermal

snip the cross. He's going to get information on if they go A or B. If you don't want him to see it, you can smoke it. Your bomb player is going to run N-Cog so the thermal can't see him. If he gets picked early in the round and nobody else has A-Cog, now you've got to figure out how you're going to get the bomb down without being seen by the thermal. Or are you going to wrote, like there used to be a storyline within certain rounds. They used to throw on strong arms and pre-stun the sniper to make sure he can't get out because you can't throw a stun that far normally. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, there just used to be so much more to actually talk about. And now it's all, like, it's, I still love watching. It's still high-level call duty. There's still stories, but it's just so dumbed down to, like, gunfights and, like, early picks. I'm a big fan to, like, the utility. Standard shit. I didn't, at first, I hated streaks.

like in Black Ops 2 and they said streaks or I'm like Jesus is like I like I like Codges stun-aid normal shit yeah I don't like that that's how I like it but I know other things like snipers and make it better streaks and certain things like that but that's how I like I just think as long as as as long as Warzone and and multiplayer are so closely like related like I just don't I don't think they'll ever go away from gun like from uh from the gunsmith because like you got to think if if cold war had had a pick 10 system it would have been such an amazing experience but they can't do that because it has to have all these fucking attachments and all these stuff because you use the cold war guns in war zone yeah I thought they

said that it was genuine oh yeah so it was supposed to be black ops six skins carrying a black op seven and now they're not. See, as someone that doesn't buy skins, really, I like it. But if I was someone that bought a bunch of skins, I can understand why that would be A war zone's not effective. Terrible. I don't think, I don't think, I don't know. Mike Bro, you get to know it.

If you want to use your skins in Blackop Six, you can play Black of Six still. Yeah, I guess. I mean, and a lot of people will buy them for Warzone. I don't think it's that. I don't think, I don't think, I don't think it's. that big of a deal. I mean, I'm... What side are you... Do you like, like, Beavis and Buttheads type skins in Kod? I don't. Or do you like the military stuff? Like, keeping it, like... Or, okay, maybe...

It can't just be military. I think it needs to be... I still run my Nicki Minaj skin in... Okay. Okay, so you like stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean, I don't mind it. Okay, the way I see it is I like... Cool shit. Like, Beavis and Butthead's too, like, cartoonish and trolley. I'm okay with the skin if it's like... dope. I'm not sure if I'm articulating this the best way. I think Black Ops 3 was the best. Black Ops 3 had some

Wait, did Black Ops 3 have different skins or am I thinking of... You want to think of A.W. maybe? I don't know. I think... Dude, my brain is mush. Maybe I'm thinking of like emotes because in Black Ops 3 they had like the dab and shit or something like they had stuff like that. I kind of liked...

This is Black Ops 3? Yeah, so it did have... It did have variance. But this... isn't like too far from like regular. Exactly. Once you start getting like the Beavis and Butthead type stuff, it's like a completely different thing. I think, I think, I like this level of skins personally.

I agree. Yeah, I agree. I think you try to make like a soldier look as dope as possible. Yeah. But you don't want, I don't want to run around as. No, let me dress my character. I'm literally running around killing fucking all the Ninja Turtles, bro. Yeah, the Ninja Turtles and the Beavs and Buttheads.

But I also think that works... That is kind of cool. I also think that works for Warzone. And it's not going away. It doesn't matter what we say. Because, I mean, it's a... It's a no-brainer for... To make some money.

Oh, yeah. Are they just doing clubs with... Oh, I'd be doing this. I'd be... Oh, yeah. Oh, if I was at the helm? Fortnite changed... There wouldn't be a human you couldn't play as if I was at the helm.

You could play as Hitch. Anything I can do there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same. I can't blame him at all. Hake's. Yeah. You're talking about Cold Duty or Activism?

Oh, yeah. Like, everything that, like, a lot of people hate, if I was them, I'd be doing more of it. They're just watching billions enter the market. Like, just enter the account. All those, all those collabs make so much money. For both, I think. It's probably fucked, right? Yeah, it's just insane.

I mean, it's insane. Well, this is, okay, what's most annoying about the skins, though, is the fact that, like, this was in AW, and now it's gotten, like, way worse. Like, explain to me how can you have Beavis and Butthead in the game and an optic skin can't be like the, the dopest skin designed by us. Like, why are there so many limitations on what the CDL teams can do? Bro, the, the CDL skin should not be the same overalls, but with different color schemes. Bro, each team, each team should be able, and within reason, I'm not saying. It's so ass. I'm not, like, there should be a, okay, if Optic has an amazing.

designer making an amazing skin. Yeah. And X, Y, and Z team don't. There should be a noticeable difference between holy shit, optic skin is dope. Yeah. And there's sucks. They should have gotten someone better to do it. I think Halo skins did a pretty good job. Like Halo, uh, the weapon skins look really nice. The Halo weapons skins look really nice. The AW one for us was the best one because we all had the white ones and everyone else.

What the fuck? That's crazy. Mr. Beast video. Mr. Beast video? New Optic gaming gear coming to advanced warfare my thoughts damn wait did you know this existed riley still thought that it's a really cool idea and i hope they incorporate something like that into black ops three it's just crazy how optics started on youtube and how they've grown to what they are today i mean it's really ridiculous if you think about it this is actually crazy making call duty videos now has over a million twitter followers and it's actually being featured in the game with cosmetic gear i think it's really cool personally and it made me think about he's still he's already

YouTube. You can hear his YouTube voice. Like, you can hear his YouTube voice. Like, millions of dollars to get it out there to advertise it, things like that. When Cold Duty actually gets unlimited free advertising. Did you see a stream with Aiden Ross?

I mean, if you actually think about it, where he was trying to raise money and he was just cold calling. He's like, anybody, he's like, Aidan was like, you know Mark Cuban? He's like, yeah, one sec. Call him Mark Cuban. Hey, Mark, we need 100K.

Hey, so and so, we need this. You see that clip of Zias and Bilo? And they were like, Why haven't you guys been online? He was like, I didn't want Mr. Bees calling me. No bullshit. He's actually crying. Yo, that was fucking hilarious.

He said, I was. He's like, we just stopped streaming as long as that until the charity was over. That is actually hilarious. Those guys are fucking, they're not that far away. They're in Tulsa. They're like, they're like an hour or two hours away. Oklahoma? This is fucking insane.

Z.S. lives in Oklahoma? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2015. Those are the fucking guys. What the fuck, bro? Wait, what video made Mr. Beas, like? He counted to a thousand. That was his, that was his, like, thing?

Or he said Logan, he said Logan Paul a thousand times, and he counted to 100,000. Something like that. It was those, like, old videos. He would sit there and, like, count. He would just do, yeah, saying Logan Paul, 100,000 times. It's got 23 million views. Eight years ago. Yeah.

When was his like, so his like actual like pop off was what? Seven years ago. Yeah. Like, no, like eight years ago. It was like this video. This is when he was like actually like starting to. Actually, no, look up when he gave the homeless man 10K. That was like his.

Yeah. So eight years ago. He says that that's the video that took him. Damn. Oh, I do remember that video. Yeah. That's literally where both my parents went to, like that town that he lives in is where both my parents went to college. Like, that's the school I like so much.

Like for college football, that's the town. It's so weird that that's where it is. That's fucking insane. Counting to 200,000. I counted to 100,000. Damn. Shit's insane. People would watch this?

I saw an interview and he said that the reason. that he the reason that he did that or yeah one of the reasons he did that is he would count but as he was counting he's watching a TV show he was like I wanted to be able to watch a TV show but I didn't want to waste any time so I would film myself and have the TV show on and just go into flow state just 100,000 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to be watching like supernatural and I'm watching Dean and Sam Winchester fucking killing I'm like 100,000. I'll start forgetting what's going on. Imagine trying to keep up with Game of Thrones.

Yeah, impossible. You don't even know like the characters. You're just like... What I also... 992, 993. What I wanted to say is I've been playing with Specialist, obviously, in Black Ops 4 recently. And like my opinion has also changed because at once I was like a specialist is kind of cheese. But now I'm like, okay, yo, this guy's at 1400 score, he has War Machine put on Flackjacket.

That's like another storyline within the game. I just want there to be more to be more. of Codd now. That's why I've always said everything that I've said about snipes all in the bin. Smokes I want in,

yes, we could want a way, but like, bro, it's just like... Smoke just can't be in Hardpoint because somewhere along the way, smokes became chaos-inducing and not methodical. Like, smokes used to be used to plant bombs

for the cross. Like, actually to move on the map. Now it's like players, if you allow them in Hardpoint, you're going to have the 12th place team throwing smokes into the hill just to run at you and try to break the hill. Like that's not competitive.

That's just stupid. We need a, if we're going to keep doing specialists, the way that they are now where like you get a trophy, but the other, the non-trophy players just basically have a useless specialist, that needs to be something. Yeah. And if that was a smoke, I think that would be incredible. Like if there were, if you could unlock a smoke with, with specialist,

Or even if you could unlock like a sniper with specialists. I know people were talking about that as well. Wait, what is this? This is when Brandon sniped him, right? Yep. I remember this. Dude, I mean, this is so like, it sucks because I can see both sides of it, but. It's just, it's so different as a player to which I completely understand like.

Yeah, but the player shouldn't be making the decisions. Exactly. Well. And you understand that now. Don't you? Yes and no, though, because. like I understand. I'm not saying

throw shock charges and shotguns. Trust me. They, bro. But I think the maps also blew this year. So like,

they did. I do think snipers on these maps would have been like, like protocol is the example most people use, but it is true. If you jump down that staircase

with a sniper, you can't do anything about that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like you would have had that cross and any decent sniper with aim assist and any pro player

with that sniper should be able to get a kill down there. Shit, you might get collided down there. Yeah, there would have been, Collads down but I do think at the at the bare minimum like next year there has to be you could also GA it per per map Like if if if protocol if it's such a big deal on protocol just be like yo no snipes on protocol and I feel like

Most of the fan base would be like all right. I get that where smoke's crazy in this game? I don't remember where smoke's like I'm pretty sure they're fucking shit they were bad Yeah, but like I don't know why we didn't like let it in I I put way yo Shirley warzone is the same smoke is the most player one, right? I don't know about that. That might be different. No clue. Because a Warzone smoke might pop more maybe because of the size. No, no, the Warzone one is horrendous. Oh, it is? Yeah, so I'm assuming they're the same. And if they are the same. I think that, I think the, the Cod fans are like pissed because it seems like shit gets G8 immediately. Well, that's true now. I think, like, snipes are already G8 for next year. Well, the new players are

different. No, definitely is a lot more current. Bro. I'm not gonna lie, all the pros are just cringe, bro. Well, because I think I said this 40 times. They're all just selfish now. They're just so late. If you guys had a land league like we had, and maybe I overblow this, if you're all sitting in the pro lounge together, every player from different teams, there is not going to be.

There's a certain respect level where you can't be a loser in that room. All the opinions in the GA chat is like so like. Based on their own team. They immediately will say like, okay, well, what if the worst case scenario happens? For example, like the baseball bat bullshit. Do you guys remember that? Yeah. They're trying to GAA the knife.

I remember that. The fucking knife. That's insane. And they were trying to have me run a bat. I'm like, bro, I am not running a fucking bat. And the only, the only example they could give me was the fucking protocol when you go up the zip. The zip line. And so much just waiting top trips with a knife.

Yeah. That is like one example out of the entire fucking, like one of the... That is one situation on one map. One situation in, and we used to play like Hardpoint. the only hill was what the P3 but like bro we should ain't

a knife because of that specific reason like yeah it's fucking broken but like you could still kill the guy you still made him right am I tripping when did GAs become a thing because we used to play with

thermal LMGs thermal snipers like I think blackups two from what I remember we wouldn't do like shock charges from what I remember we used to keep it to like truly O.P.

shit yeah well if a gun killed you in literally two bullets that was G8 because it was like genuinely affecting like there was no gunfight. I think it was banned. Like on G.B. Like,

Shiva. There was like the, yeah, Shiva and then, and you got to, what was that three round burst gun on ghosts? Like the MSBS, I think it was what it called?

My dad. Band, yeah, yeah, yeah. Band on GBs, band on MLG. Everything, it was just banned. And then,

and so in Blackups 2, you wouldn't, you wouldn't play with band items, like shock charges and the FAL was eventually banned after big timer. Yeah. All that shit. But like the smokes and the LMGs weren't.

So like, then you get that ego clip where he like smokes himself. Yeah. And then shooting people through the smoke with the thermal LMG. Yeah. And like, but then eventually like, I think DeSeredo had different rules, remember? Like, like, because we were playing with, or y'all were playing with trophy systems. And then you would put, you, or century guns and you would put trophies, like four or five trophies next to the century. Used to be so cramped.

And then people were like, you were. like okay this is a little ridiculous so then eventually that was big i used to be infuriated big time we used they would they would go up in ctf and ctf if you got a century he would put it behind their flag with trophies and camp behind it it was like it was impossible with a f ao with like a fucking so first you got to destroy the trophies then you got to empe his century and then you got to kill will yeah by that time he's got you trust me i i understand the i understand the community and everyone trust me. That's why I'm down for everything. Well, not everything,

but like smoke, snipes. I think that should be like a must. Kind of like what you said. Like if it is very map dependent, if we need to go like, to get them in, if we need to go that far, I definitely do agree with that because I think the protocol one is like a good example

to be honest, especially if you don't have a smoke. We need to make cod cringe again. I just think Call-Duty needs a multiple gun, multiple weapon meta. Because the, now, we're on year four now of one AR, one SMG and no smokes, no snipers. Yeah. Like, it's just like.

When was our last three gun title? Blackop's where I'm playing right now. That's ICR Maddo. Not in the CDO, mirror. That's 5V5. It's never having a CDO. Never. No.

But like, Cold War was Craig in 74U. But it would just get banned. It would, shit would just get banned immediately. Yeah. Like, remember when Dylan was trying to run, like, the Uzi on 2019? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I do remember that. And then, like, it was just banned the next day

because Dylan did good once with it. Just like, dude. Like... Then with the Ogg, the Ogg happened in MW 2019, 2019, too? In 202. And then that shit got G8. Brother, they're just, I'm telling you, they're fucking cringe, right? I kind of feel like Harpoint changed everything.

Because, like, CTF, for example, you would have roles because you'd have the guy who would run the flag like you'd have he run marathon lightweight or whatever the equivalent was in whatever game

heart point kind of became the game mode where it's like everybody has to do everything yeah maybe I'm reaching but I feel like that makes sense

to where it's like you couldn't afford to have one guy not have what he needs to do that role at this time because it's so dependent on rotations and I don't know

I kind of feel like the hard point back of the day was like you had to rotate at like 35 so you put your AR player in the back Yeah, games have sped up.

The game shows for you now. A lot has changed. I don't know. I just hope that there is a way to figure out adding some cool components to like what we already watch. I wonder what Cod would be like if we kind of like took the Super Smash Brothers route

where we still played our favorite titles. Like Cod Mobile? Where it's the best of Call of Duty in one title? Like imagine if like if the CDL era like we just played, we played the title I mean it would never happen obviously but like in this utopian world

where like first day of or first year of CDL is blackups two second year of CDL is blackups three third year it's blackups four that would be insane you know or go we do a ghost year or something like that like drop the ball this year the meta would be insane this year they dropped the ball I truly think of black

ops six had black ops four maps in this game it would have been like it would have been the best CDL title by far I think it could have actually been because seaside would have been a fantastic arsenal. That's actually fired. Yeah, that's the Cod Mobile Mabble map set. The Cod Mobile map set is Godlike. They have the best guns, the best maps, the best everything

from every Call of Duty all in one. How big are they? Cod Mobile is huge. It's huge. Bigger than us? Yeah. Well, no. No, I think Cod Mobile's bigger than Call of Duty, like... Cod Mobile, the game is... Yes. I think is... Oh, the Eastport. The Eastport is not bigger. Oh, yeah. But the game is like, the thing about Call of Duty, competitively is we're so NA dominant, where it's basically NA, maybe a little bit UK.

We don't have like Asia or other regions. Cod Mobile is ginormous worldwide. We don't have like the actual worldwide. Like if we threw an event in Tokyo, I'm not sure what the outcome would be. I don't know either. Like London would do great. Paris would do great. Anywhere in the U.S. would do great.

Tokyo sounds like, holy shit, that's awesome. I'm not sure what the actual attendance would be for a CDL Tokyo event. Riley, did you just have the World Cup up? What do you guys think? Have you all talked about this already? I haven't been on a minute in a minute. This is an awesome idea. We've been talking about this for a while,

just like mock about like, you know, what would it look like? The issue of Call Duty is, once again, we're not very worldwide. So you have like a U.S. team, a Spain team. No, dude, no. Dude, you've got to do this right. You've got to do this right.

If Cod is going to be in this. you have to do it right the largest prize pool I mean I haven't even watched this yet this looks so sick you're not done yet you're I hope so for generations sport has united people across nations nathan is gonna go to Canada though dude this is so sick this has to be done right

let's run it hype video goes so hard. It does, it does. But today. Showdown, where the best compete for more than glory. You streaming today's in? Build the teams. I'm playing for Team Italy. Me, Zuma, there's no one else.

There's really no other Italian. It's got to be me, Zuma. Formal. Formal? I mean, I got more Italian. He was Italian. Formal? Yeah. Isn't he Japanese?

That's what I thought. Everyone was like, no, it's like, yo, do you form a Zuma? Okay, the, how I think this should be done, which is, it was like a dream of mine to do this, but I guess it's happening now, is like there should, you should have, you should have like an ambassador for each country. So, like, Hex should be the ambassador for Mexico. And he should either, like, hire out or build it himself or maybe Castro is like the ambassador of Mexico. and it's his job, it's his job, it's Hex's job, to make sure that Ant plays for

Mexico. Because you're Mexican, right? Yeah. That should be his job. And he should build it in Gattaga should build the French team. And if he knows that somebody is third generation French,

it's his job to go out there and convince that player to play for France. It shouldn't be, this should shouldn't be fucking... I wonder what it's going to be. Basically, Optic, Texas. Well, that's the issue, because Spain is going to be heretics.

Like, Spain is literally going to be the heretics roster. Because they're all Spanish. Yeah. And they're all, like, first generation Spanish. But, like, Brandon, if you make... If you make XQC, the ambassador for Canada, or Pomage, the ambassador for Canada, he should make sure, make 100% sure that... How could he do that?

Are they offering you, like, Marjorie? $20. Pay for Canada? Pay for Canada? Well, maybe. Either money or sponsorship or not citizenship. But like basically, that's what they do for the World Cup. Like, we have a bunch of people that are not first generation American on the U.S. team.

Like, there's some people on the U.S. team that speak broken English. But do you think Call of Duty could actually field, like, it's so N.A. dominant where I've, the only teams I can think you could actually fill out is, U.S. U.K. And UK. Yeah. UK. Spain.

And Canada. But you got to, well, you got to think right now. And Mexico. You have to think the third and, because I think you need to cut it off at like third generation or fourth generation maybe. I don't know.

There's a lot of, the second generation, your parents? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. So like third,

I think third generation is like where they should cut off. But grandparents are from that place. Right. Or great grandparents. Right. And so like you could. Great Grandparents' fourth generation? I think.

Fuck, I'm fourth-gen- Italian. Yeah, so four, maybe you cut it off at four. I think, I don't know how the, I don't know how the World Cup does it, but, but that's, that's, that's how it should be done. It should be, like, all content-based, in my opinion. Because, like, then you, you have Bruce. Bruce technically could be, could play for the American team. He could play for Canada, or he could play for, was he Lebanese? Yeah.

Lebanon. So that's and so it's up How the how the World Cup does it is there is an entire like the US board Has to go out and figure out How do we get this player instead like this Canadian I get what you're saying because technically I could play for then US Italy Ireland or Germany because that's where like I'm 50 Italian Exactly, 50 Irish and German or whatever

Exactly that's interesting so like you have somebody from you You have like an ambassador from Mexico. You have an ambassador. Like, I would say that Seth and Tim the Tapman be the ambassador for the United States. And they build the team. And then they can watch party it. And then it's like a huge thing. Hex and Castro are the ambassadors for Mexico.

You know how hard Hex and Castro would ride for Mexico? Like, they would do everything they can. You'd face a tough choice because you can play your U.S. I would do that. You wouldn't? No, I would. Oh, you snobes. Newpy and then like Mexico what?

Yeah, that shit would be, my homies. That shit would be, that is the way to do it, in my opinion. Hey, that's a good perspective. I like that. Because that is how, that is how it should be done. And then like the sidemen, you get the sidemen to like, like, Bazinga be the ambassador. The ambassador of England. Delgar.

I want to play for them. Oh, okay. Sorry. I mean, that shit would be so sick. That would be so sick. I hope it's done that way. I don't know how it's done. I don't even know if COD's in this.

Do we know if COD's in this? No, it's not. So this is November 2026. I don't know, but. What a, yeah. All right, guys. I appreciate you guys watching. We were yapping.

That has been an episode, who knows, of Optic Podcasts. We'll see you guys in the next one. Peace.