OpTic Podcast - OpTic REACTS TO THEIR WINNING MOMENT | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 176

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Optic Podcast, episode 176, brought to you by Shopify and Mountain Dew. A very special episode today. I'm joined by the absolute gentleman, the champions of Toronto. He got Ken, MVP, A.G and Brandon. Boys, how does it feel? Amazing, man. Finally got one on the board. This is AGs and Ken's first ship for the Greenwall.
Starting point is 00:00:32 My second one. Are you doing the AG voice? Man. It's in media. I got it from AG. That's that shit. That's shit. That's good, man.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It feels great, man. Does it feel different for Optic compared to, like, because you won on Seattle, you won for Thieves? Obviously, I mean, you won a world championship, but I feel like the pressure is the highest here, right? Kind of like if you play for the Yankees, for example, like you have a very passionate fan base where it's like when things are going well, you hear it, and when things aren't, you also hear it. So to this one,
Starting point is 00:01:08 how does it feel? Definitely, you definitely feel the pressure. I feel like, for me, at least, like, from being on the other side of it, like, you never really, like, look at it like that. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, for me, I feel like this win was like, it's super, super high on my, like, list of wins just because of the fact that, like, when I took my head set off, like, taking my head set off at the bathroom one was, like, insane. And like I slowly took it off And now I just could hear the crowd And like granted all my wins
Starting point is 00:01:39 You could hear the crowd But this one definitely felt I think it was an energy from like the team And then also like that Screaming after was just kind of nuts Not gonna lie That's my favorite part about winning Like online is like
Starting point is 00:01:50 Taking off your headset Is like because like you realize How loud it is Because like you could hear it And then like you take it off And it's like holy shit It feels like The entire rate is on their feet
Starting point is 00:01:59 And it just like It was also a hometown win for you Canada I mean how did that feel You had a lot of family there and you had some friends there so that must have felt good i mean like yeah it was nice just just because like i guess it was back home in canada but it was also nice because holy shit we've been fucking getting railed in toronto recently eh like like that the past couple years i've not treated the kid well so nice for for the buddy to get one on the board eh the buddy
Starting point is 00:02:20 what uh i love toronto man honestly let's just talk toronto how do you guys feel about the city the tournament that's amazing man yeah two out of three there that's 66% great so She had the best. She hosts world. I'm two out of three there, so I hope we keep having Toronto tournaments. Talk to Ernie. Maybe get champs going on there. But yeah, now going on with what they said.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Honestly, the way we won, like, the last three minutes of that Rio, like, leading into how loud the crowd was was, was like, you couldn't have wrote it any better, honestly. Like, that was like, if we could ride away to, like, go out and win a tournament, like, 4-0, last three minutes of that Rio, and then, like, the way the crowd was, was fucking insane. The high-rise search against phase for me was like, Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Because like you guys, you guys bottled it online. And like everyone was talking about that. It was just like you guys had some man up advantages. And then you went out there and you won high-rise search against phase online. And I think that was like when I looked at you guys, oh, they're winning today. Like as soon as you guys won the high-rise church, I was like, oh, the series is over. They're winning the tournament. And then Ultra got fucking slammed.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Ultra had no chance. I'm not going to lie. Like, respectfully, like that map pool, that had no chance. But like, I don't know what the fuck. I don't know if they want the Toronto Cush or some shit When they pick sub-based map one good side But I don't know and he said Oh dear they we play the map good they just got more kills in us
Starting point is 00:03:43 Fuck no that's not why we won We won that map because you get that's what he said that when they beat us in the post game Like fuck no that's not why you guys won I mean why you guys like didn't win They weren't even on the hill for half the map in the grand finals That's same dude You go watch by the P5 they sent K-5 next to the bro He Kleenex is running on the hill on B5
Starting point is 00:04:01 And he's the only first is like laying down in the snow in the open like Jamie's top P5 they're not getting on B5 I felt bad out I was crying bro I watched that bag I'm like bro they are sending Kleenex to the
Starting point is 00:04:14 damn it's a slavage Invasion Control O win 3-1 6-3 you're gonna get one on Invasion there was no life they had no life at all like throughout the whole every map there's nothing like
Starting point is 00:04:27 there's no like thing that cling on to what was the next couple maps after that there's the name nothing what's the next couple of maps Karachi S&D. We would at Karachi, S&D. It's got a been a 7-O-Rashie in search Rio. I swear those maps are gone, like,
Starting point is 00:04:40 brisk. No, they are too. If we could pick Ola maps, it would probably be them. Yeah. What are we getting? I just don't get what is another hot point. Yeah. That shit is crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Huh? Because what is there? There's two controls, two S&D. There should be three hard points. There should be three hard points. It should be three hard points. Not two, two, three. 2 2 2 3 it's 2 to 3 I agree there should be 3 I feel like there should be 3 2 2 2
Starting point is 00:05:07 2 2 3 hard points 2 controls 2 searches I think there should still be 3 3 3 3 3rd I think I just I just think game 7 should be a hard point I think that of me way no no yeah yeah so that's an unpopular opinion really for a game 7 hard point yeah yeah people bro they still game 7 7 Gaines NS&D is big time. But imagine Bruce getting that clutch in a Game 7. I think the series has to end in search just because, like, how blood pumping the actual rounds are. I think a hard point would bang, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I can't like, I feel like game 6 control is so shit, though. I think it depends on the hard point. Like, it has to be games. Like, imagine that Rio hard point game. Like, I feel like, granted we slammed, but like I feel like a close hardpoint game 7 would bang. Like a round 11 SD is like. A close one, yeah. Round 11 search can't be a match though, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Nah, around 11 game 7 would be insane. Imagine that cool. It's like the entire crowd's quiet. But at the same time, imagine that one row, 200, 200. That's what I'm saying. But I get it, but I think game seven is just more consistent. I think game six control is the issue. Because there's always going to be a team that's up three, too. There's always a team that has the potential to win the chip on game six. And I feel like winning it on the control is not the other team. I wasn't like that. I'm down for one control. Like just get rid of hard points, three searches one control. Yeah. Or the map three and then you go from HB S and D. You know what I mean? Like what should be. It should be three. One's shit. We're going back and forth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I don't know. Just dopamine game modes. Like Toronto's lit, I'll tell you that. Holy. Actually, if I could live there, actually. I'm telling, dude, it's a dope city. It's walkable. The food's good.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Taxes are. I like their letters. All right, taxes are definitely. Everyone's about, like, health over there. Like, when we're on their way to the hotel, like the, what's that, like, place called? Like, that lake area? The fucking beach or whatever the fuck. There's a hell of people running over there.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh yeah, like when our Uber So much people running like I'm saying at least Like I saw at least 400,000 It's like a lot of park It's like a massive lake And everyone's just running around I don't think I've seen it It's like 50, it's like 20 minutes away
Starting point is 00:07:13 From downtown We'll go on the way Like from the airport Oh from the airport Oh the lake I used to walk that every day When I live there Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah, like seeing people like that like It's just cool Just because that city's all about That gives me like crazy Australia vibes That's how it is in Australia Like everyone just walking Like need the lakes and shit You can kind of do whatever you want
Starting point is 00:07:30 It's like you know if you want to go for a run or go walk to Lake Shure, then you have the nightlife area. Then you have like the walking parks area. It's like Toronto has like pretty much. Everything that you want to do. Anything that I think is dog shit is just the sports, I feel like. Like the actual sports teams?
Starting point is 00:07:45 I don't have one NBA, like the Raptors. I don't know. Well, the Maple Leafs there is their biggest team. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really. I guess I guess I don't know. I guess Westbow with the Mavs and shit.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, the Leafs are huge. The Raptors, I think I was there for the Raptors win. That was crazy. Yeah, I think I was there. Yeah, I think I was there. That was a short stint, though. When they had the, when they had client shit, that would have been lit to live in Canada. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Imagine going to the Raptors game to a Leaves game. Actually, you'd be shocked. Well, because you're a basketball guy, so I guess like, but like the Blue Jays are pretty big fan base. The Leafs are probably the most popular team in the country. Yeah, like in the whole league. The least that they haven't like actually done anything in playoffs for a while. I've been watching hockey like that. That's probably well.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, dude, hockey's, you just aren't watching hockey. The stars right here? Yeah. The stars are a bit unreal. I've never been to. hockey game. You be, I've been the one. Hockey's, especially playoff hockey's not a good one. Which one?
Starting point is 00:08:36 I just feel like that we went to. It was Kings and fucking, oh, that was the way I took a pick with the shit. Yeah, that's that one. What's the one ice thing? Oh yeah. The food there in Toronto is. Disney on ice is there.
Starting point is 00:08:53 No, no, no. The, what is it called? The jamboni. Zamboni. Zamboni. Oh, we brought the zamboni. Yeah. What's that?
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's the thing that like after every intermission Oh yeah Yeah They'll like read like like Like refreshing up the ice Yeah Yeah, brand it all that shit
Starting point is 00:09:08 But I was so fun I was driving that shit You really? No, I wasn't I was like the passenger I was running shotgun I was just on that I was whipping that
Starting point is 00:09:15 And I'm just in the crowd like it I'll tell you That was so funny That was good though That was a good game Toronto's like a Smaller cleaner in New York Is the way I put it
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah It's got everything New York has But it's cleaner You know You don't You can walk home at 2 a.m. after a bar in Toronto and feel completely safe. Like you're not out there freaking out or looking over your shoulder, really.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Of course it happens every now and then. But you know what I mean. It's just you feel good there. You get that safe vibe. It was also a great event to win. Because I, first of all, I think Toronto throws a great event. Like that venue's dope for an event. For us, we have like a beautiful view of this stage and everything.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Now, the event's a dub always. But then also you're going into the major four. So it's like, that's why I'll... Hopefully you guys go out there and win that. But like winning Toronto where it's like the last major with fans before chance. It's like that one's way more fun to win than major for. Obviously you want to win it, but you know what I mean. Like just that atmosphere and actually feeling like you're at an event is like night and day different compared to us.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I'm just excited for the food, bro. I think L.A. got the best food by far. But it's not even close. You've been scouting though. You've been scouting for years now. Yeah, but like when it comes to city, bro, I swear L.A. food. Yeah, they have good food. Like the variety of food they have and it's like the, like how, like the quality of it is just, it's not matched. I'm not going to want.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like Toronto, I don't even remember what I. I think the croissant was godlike the croissant okay that was good but I was where everybody eats at Toroni like that place is like the only place everybody goes to the Casamoto place was actually very far but Japanese spot yeah the Casamota places but at that point I was so hungry
Starting point is 00:10:45 that I think any of the fire I gotta say this man like it's it's great over there man seriously like can we have the 20 V1 at Casamoto dude Casamoto That's sort of God I'm so down I swear to God I'm so down I swear to God I fly tomorrow I'm fucking that place probably has like the best vibe in the city when it comes to just like a nice dinner
Starting point is 00:11:01 on a rooftop. No, that place was a vibe. So, so. Does like the NHL players at that place out? Oh, yeah. Well, dude,
Starting point is 00:11:06 that's where I met the NHL player that night. I was walking to the bathroom. Of course he's there. He knows the prospects are there. Jordan, uh, well,
Starting point is 00:11:13 dude, because one of the ultra owners owns Casamoto. So we used to always go there. So, and it's also, so Yorkville and Toronto was kind of like the brickle of Miami, right?
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's like the super bougie, nice area. So Casamato, just like a beautiful Japanese restaurant. They just really did their patio. It's like, uh, The rooftop is a vibe.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, so it was, that place, the food's good, the drinks are good, the vibe is even better. But I was walking to the bathroom and an NHL player for the blues was like, Zinny. And I was like, yo. And I never met him before. He called you Zinn? Yeah, he was like, yo, Zinn. And I was like, yo, he goes, your friends with Marins, right? I was like, yeah, he goes, dude, I love what you guys do.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And then on Sunday night when we went out to celebrate, you met him. He was like, is that pred? It was the first guy you dapped up when you walked in. Oh, what the fuck? That was the NFL player, yeah. I was on Mars. Yeah. Yeah, you remember that.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Dude, the owner was vibe. He literally, he's like, as he's walking me up, escorting me almost, he was like, man, love what you do. He's like, congrats, man. But we're watching. I'm like, it's fucking let it already. I'm like, it's fucking hit it. You appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Is that the place where, like, you walk to, too flat stairs? It's just, the steps, I'm not going to lie. If you're slosh, the steps are kind of, yeah, the steps are kind of check out. The steps are steep. I'm telling you're not one person in the night falls down. What was that last year? Like the rooftop Japanese spot?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Like, like last year, right? Everyone went there? I didn't know that. I think so. I'm not sure if I was what you guys last year there. I was a actor randomly. Oh, probably, though. We're there for 15 minutes we did.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Probably. Is it a love shot? This gets a celebrity. I don't know. It gives me like a, well, it gave me like Uchibati, like Vives. Like Uchibov vibes. Now, the food of Uchibah though is insane. There's a bar there, everyone's fucking waiting.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Everyone in their mom. It's like in the little alleyway, and there's like people waiting in the alley to get upstairs. Wait, what's that street called? Or what's that place? Like that area?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yorkville. That place is kind of like, I'm not going on. That's where like shopping. Like, I like, like, it's almost like a fashion district. I like stuff like that. Yeah. That's where like Kith and, uh, Kith is Stone Island. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's very, it's literally all the bougie shops and it's like. I was kind of pissed I didn't get to get to go to Kith, but. Does this have caffeine in it? Who's this? Who got the Grande Machia? Wava. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm saying that right. Oh, shit. Oh. Breaking the first Call of Duty black op. teaser is here. Okay. Now it's starting to get the best time of the year. The boys are winning. We're getting cold duty trailers.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I'm pissed that it's not Black Ops 5. Wait, what is it? Like, Dickling Cold War was Black O' Offs, we can't, Cold War was ass. Wait, does that say Blackop Six? My bad, Cold War. It feels like a slender man fucking fucking like. I'm scary, movie. Yeah, like I feel like somebody's about pop up. They ain't
Starting point is 00:13:53 no way this is the teaser. What is this? It's like among us, dude. But it's like that game you guys are playing lethal company. This looks like it does. Content warning. So it's like a
Starting point is 00:14:23 IRL like teaser. Wait, so Black Op 6? Dude, what? Black Op. 6? How does it go from Black Ops 4 to Black Op 6? Cold War's technically that's what I'm saying. Oh, real.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Because it was apparently was Black Outs Cold War. Yeah, it was. Ah, okay. I felt like Cold War wasn't a part of the Black Op's theme because the Blackop, like, B.O, 2, B, 0, 3, B, 4. They're all, like, newer gen, like, like, a futuristic, you know, theme.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Like, the game, like, that's my favorite part about, like, the Black Opsons, is, like, how they're, like, in the future almost. And Cole, I love that way. I love it. I love it. I love it's triarch, though, because Cold War was godlike.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, like, Cold War's maps and, like... Yeah. I think the TTC. I love using the Craig. But I think of it, like, almost... It was, like, one year... Because think about it. I only had one year to, like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 make the game. What is that? You would have love Cold War. Yeah? You would have love Cold War. I played like a little bit. I only played like Australian challenges. It was very like pre-ame like strafe heavy, 70 for you.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Dude, that game was that was that was in my opinion the best competitive game we've had since. Black Cops 4? Yeah, I mean, definitely since. That's another chair game. It's definitely the best, it's definitely the best CDL ever like competitive call of duty easily. Oh, CDO. It's based on like maps and way competitively. I feel like Bangkok more than fucking Cold War.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Really? Yeah. Well, you're selfishly. That's because you're replaced, though. You were a bow cage fucking window ladder. I'll put this game over Cold War. What you say? I'll put this game over Cold War.
Starting point is 00:15:47 This game? This game. I didn't play. Like, this is probably the most fun, like, CDL game, in my opinion. That's, in my opinion. And I think it actually plays like a good God. I don't know how to explain that. But, like, the flow of this game feels good.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And the gun play is good. I think, like, the maps are, old ones, like nostalgic, but like they don't play like they used to. So like, that's what I think the,
Starting point is 00:16:10 I just think the games, this game's got like I was there. What do you think? Honestly, yeah, I mean, I felt like the most fun I had was definitely my first year.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I mean, I'm biased, obviously, but, and then, yeah, Cold War in this game definitely go neck to neck
Starting point is 00:16:24 just because they make the most sense. Like, in this game, obviously, like, there's fucking weird ass spawns to make zero sense sometimes,
Starting point is 00:16:31 but... I've seen the maps are just like, on this game, like, I don't know. I feel like the new maps kind of saved the game. Also, we'll say that this is the first game that's made
Starting point is 00:16:38 Oh, for sure. Like, a new original map and they're actually good. They made multiple of them. Like, Vista Rio and Six Star, you need a fucking pay race. They made multiple of them though. Like, that's, I think that's typical. Whoever changed the six star spawns needs to get fucking fired. Six Star Hills.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Oh yeah, never heard that shit. It might have been the same guy that made them. All they have to do is, in my opinion, like, dude, I actually like to pull Hill, not just because we have Sharksy, but just because like... No, hold on. Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. No, but like, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Because I actually have a funny story. Actually, I don't know if I could say it on stream or on broadcast. No, do it. And then he can cut it if it's shit. Like, in my opinion, the only hill that, like, maybe that had to go is maybe the pool hill. But the other four hills actually made sense. You know what I mean? The spons.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They feel like they kind of made sense. They're changing it. They're changing. That was our one crazy. No, no, no. So the office, you know how it's in the office? It's fucking Opie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 They're going back to the old one before? The stage. Stage. Why aren't they just go back to the pit? Pretty sure it's going to be stage. they might go to pit but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be stage and then maybe P3
Starting point is 00:17:34 I could see maybe P3 but I don't think that was bad The only hill people were complaining about was the water and now I was gonna say I don't know how you're so consistently good in the water Dude it's like
Starting point is 00:17:43 No but I know it's sharksy But it's like Every time you're in a fight in the water You win it I'm like we're like You're like one shot getting knated And like people are like pinching you And we're like how the fuck is it
Starting point is 00:17:55 How are you getting out of it? All it takes is really And now we're like keep the hill the same Don't say Don't say anything. Yeah, he's like, it's getting changed. It doesn't matter. You know what I used to, every time I see an water, I just know he's staying a lot or something,
Starting point is 00:18:06 I just go outer and child the guy and every time I see the guy just like, NPCs trying to look in the water for sharksy. He told me he's dirty straight. It's actually dirty. Now that I'm like, when I think about it, wow. Dirty. When I watch his pop in there, like it makes so much sense. Is it dirty? It's actually so dirty.
Starting point is 00:18:23 My pop in there is, dude, my pop when I see the hill is like yellow. But Bruce is on top of the water spraying his MCW at the water. Just fucking. Who was it, Real? Real's unfucking, he's, I don't think it's possible to shoot him in the water. I think he has a glitch or something. Oh, dude, I wanted to talk to you guys about the switch you guys flipped from Saturday to Sunday. Because Saturday, you guys looked okay, but you guys didn't look like at that point.
Starting point is 00:18:47 After the Miami series, I was like, okay, they're going to have to wake up different to go beat phase and ultra tomorrow. How was the, I guess, how did you guys feel after Miami? I'm sure you felt great. I mean, you were just dropping your fucking sack all over Miami. How did the team, I guess, feel after Saturday going into Sunday? Like, were you guys still completely confident? Were you like, we're playing like shit? What was the thought process after Saturday?
Starting point is 00:19:08 I was like, we're playing like shit. What was they? I said I was on the way we're playing like shit. Yeah, no, I think we were. I was kind of just like on the way of like just get through this day. Yeah. After we lost to like Toronto, like just get to Sunday. But I feel like, I mean, we went back.
Starting point is 00:19:22 We went, we got on Discord. We got on the phone and like talked about like a lot of stuff. But I think like the ultimate like consensus of like the, conversation was like we just need to like use teamwork and like do stuff together and like come with like some different energy and I feel like the biggest thing was like control and a lot of time the control we were just like basically like doing too much assuming I guess yeah we just weren't really what was in front of us yeah and if you watch our Saturday control even fucking Thursday compared to our Sunday it's late 9th I mean even our Sunday against in and against New York
Starting point is 00:19:54 we did the same shit no yeah we did the same thing because we got three o'd in fucking 10 seconds And like, but we were like, the thing is we were just more, we were just trying to be more active on like all the stuff that we spoke about and just trying to imply it. That was like a big thing. And we just went over a lot of our S&D shit because I feel like our S&D won different pages. Because we knew we couldn't win a tournament. You can't win the tournament without being, without not knowing what you're doing in S&D. Like we had so many, like, misplays and mis-understandings of what everyone was doing. So basically we just made sure we got on the same page.
Starting point is 00:20:24 That was like the biggest thing. It's getting on the same page, understanding what we need to do. So then if someone doesn't do it, it's. like there's no excuse not to be able to do it because we all spoke about it you know what mean so fair yeah it's a big um we we played like shit on saturday to be honest but no i mean sunday for me i mean it really was the search that stood out to me i mean i said it earlier like the high-rise search first phase but you guys on sunday look like a completely different search team that you had the rest of the weekend instead of getting blooded you guys were
Starting point is 00:20:48 and then your man-up situations were good i mean brandon your one v3 was fucking legacy like i didn't think you're like like who who who gets a 1v3 like that and that type of fashion against a team like that like it would just during it or before you're like no way and then it happens you're like oh my god that is a legacy 1v3 he had his Canadian chopahagan that's what he did and MC came looking for her and got slapped in the skull with it and draw that man there was a stat on Twitter you see your reaction time in that clutch like I saw I saw but like I don't like know how to like so you were preaming dark because I think Droz was coming through dark,
Starting point is 00:21:28 and then Cell comes and pitches you to kill you off bomb. You had a 0.15 reaction, 0.15 MS reaction time to snap on him. That's Champ Sunday reaction. Matt, what's the average MS reaction time in a human? Point 15. I can it's like 30. It's probably like 200 or 230.
Starting point is 00:21:47 No, it's pretty high. Point 15 in like a, dude, I don't think you guys realized. I didn't know how to like be gas off it because I'm like, just know it is insane. The average human reaction time is between 100, 150 and 300 milliseconds. If it was 150, and yours was,
Starting point is 00:22:01 was it 15 or point 15? I think it was probably 15, probably 15 MS. 15 MS. Yeah, so that, 150? That is like, can we switch up for dragons,
Starting point is 00:22:11 though? What if it's like 1.5 accelerating? Because we're actually talking about for dragon. For dragon drink guys right here. It's not, this video, podcast is not sponsored by podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Honestly, I'm not gonna lie, you fucking melted him. Actually, uh, yeah. Oh, did you headshot him? I don't even think when that one, what I thought about, like in the, from the spectator, you looked like you, it's the really bulleted him. It was like, uh, I don't know, from my perspective. Oh, that was dirty. Yeah, it just made it so much better that was Dries lost alive and he got the first shot off in you, and he aped you and then you all those fucking scrap-y-ed-red Renetti kills that you were
Starting point is 00:22:50 killed me before that day. I don't think people understand too. Like, me and Droz have so much reps in like one v-ones in this game specifically, just because, like, we always play chowals like against each other and I feel I feel like that one v1 the way he played it was just one of those were like it just it was more of like a one v1 like throughout like like our history of just like because I've been in a couple times where I didn't plant the bomb in that specific situation and then like he's ran away and then he went around or like you know what I mean so it's like if I I swear I believe this like if that was our very first time in a
Starting point is 00:23:18 one v1 the entire year maybe not the first time but like he wins it yeah because he probably just checks the bomb right away probably like he's on the bomb but like like I feel like it was more of like mental game yeah yeah because it was like I know what you do but you know what I do you know what I'm saying it was more like that he got zapped so he was like damn emcy had to miss there though because he got first shots too he missed a whole burst he was probably mind-blown when he died he probably he probably just thought he was he was fucking he's like oh my fucking guys he got fucking preys on the one-reland that was that was a that was a dope question look at your cousin's hit his fucking
Starting point is 00:23:55 Losing it that's not way it is that that's not your cousin my cousin is it? Well I'm pretty sure that's that we just making shit up I was waiting for and to be like yeah no that's my cousin And then there's no I'm like I'm way back Yeah that's why whatever he said it lies out I was like bro yeah Go back to that guy I'm pretty sure that's you got the interview was interviewing us Age you just gave Brandon a cousin yeah he just gave
Starting point is 00:24:21 this is a little interview right he was the guy that interview when after we won now I do kind of see what you were saying he looks a little similar to your cousin I was there yeah yeah thanks so
Starting point is 00:24:34 my cousin would not like one would just be solo like and then fucking pit just like yeah you're like your cousin's insane I just guys lose it he cousins lose it that was a dope
Starting point is 00:24:50 that was dope though what was it 805 days since the last optic wind Yeah, the 8005 days does something new Because holy fuck That's something they did Someone when a beach came out That was charged to you
Starting point is 00:25:00 I mean just a 1.3-7 in the finals The highest of your career Dash it's your third trip AG your second Kenny your eighth So my ninth Nine nine That's like is that right
Starting point is 00:25:11 Knife championship okay He's tied most winning us Yeah they gotta add to that Damn it can't use that line anymore We can't use most winning us I'm not hand out no more We can't But now we got to win to be most winning us
Starting point is 00:25:23 But we got to say excluding Cam, we got to say Mo's winning. That was the celebration. You guys have fun Sunday night in Toronto? I remember you kept up going to me, yo. Yeah, I know. So I'm asking, I'm asking to. It was great. It was good.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That was late. That place we went to, he was five, dude. I was starving, bro. Well, it was half a banana, did. And six Red Bulls. Well, we got there, too, at the end of the, what game was on? It was game seven, right? The Nuggets, Nuggets game.
Starting point is 00:25:52 when wolves were down like 18 whatever and they came back at one so we got there with like there was like seven minutes left we had like a caban in the back with the TV and then that was a vibe it was a it was a good time with the King Street I'm not going a lot like the place was the thing though I was kind of checking the place was fire I just feel like but me starving for so long I don't think that was the right pick for me like I thought the place was like godlike but like sushi would like being hungry like you want like an entree entree yeah I need like a meal you know what I mean like waiting for like sushi to keep coming out was like oh my yeah no it's definitely more of like a
Starting point is 00:26:22 social sharing place. Yeah. But like I was, bro, I didn't eat the whole day. I had nothing. No, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I was starving too. I never eat on tournaments, but like it was. Even the dragon is eating more than you guys. How did you like King Street, like that, uh, like the nightlife,
Starting point is 00:26:36 like street? How good is the breakfast? It's a vibe. I was there when I won last time. That fettie cash place is where I went last on. Oh, petty cash? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:43 we couldn't get in this time. I lost my mind, dude. I was so mad. That is, that is criminal. That was comedy. It's because,
Starting point is 00:26:51 So Seth was wearing like Lulu Lemon pants, but like... It's scump. It's the king. We're not letting scum. Move out the way. But and it's like, you get the fun at the night. It's,
Starting point is 00:27:00 they're Lulu lemon pants. It's not like they're not... You should have just searched up his name on Google and shut them. It's not like they're sweatpants. No, they were nice pants. They were just, they weren't just jeans or something.
Starting point is 00:27:08 You should just, I'm telling you, dude. Was a security guard that didn't let you? Yeah, he would be in a dick. Should just pulled up, like, Oh, you just pulled up Google, scump. I'm telling you. But those people,
Starting point is 00:27:15 those people, they have to feel authority. it weird though like how he was doing it he wasn't letting hell of people in because like you know father you know father yeah they're and they're like yeah he's turned down so many people yeah but yeah but i'm like Seth is also too humble like set didn't pull out the umscott when they hear Seth chalk that and Seth was like I'm out no it was in-s-sich up no it was in-sac job said they didn't even say word I think he just walked away I don't think I don't think that guy would have that guy would have been like okay I don't like that guy was being a douche bag I'm telling you that guy was on a weird power trip he would have because
Starting point is 00:27:50 he got like I don't know, he tried to make a whole scene out of it. It was, like, way too weird. I'm like, yeah. Those people just always try to feel like, fucking, like, authority, dude. Because they have no dope all that. I kind of celebrate a championship,
Starting point is 00:28:01 and this guy's like, you guys can't come. Like, too, come on, man. The one I am, all the gamers are inside. Miserable life, dude. But now, we had, we had fun, though. I can understand, like, basketball sorts of things. You know what I mean? Like, it's something way more like.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like J-CAP shit? Yeah, he was in the J-CAP starter pack? You know what's so funny? No way. Wait. The bouncer said, he's like, no way, you're not letting me in. No way. No way.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Oh, my gosh. No way. He's like, no, he gets to turn down, no way. That's not funny. That you said funny that you say that. Every time I score a goal in him and Finkham, we've been playing, he goes, no way. No way that just happened. No way that just worked.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You're not as good. Cap is comedy. That was like actually a legend. When do you guys start practicing again Tuesday? Yeah. And then you guys play Sarah. Saturday Sunday, right next week? Yeah, I can't wait for the qualifies, play for 10 points.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It's going to be great, dude. How many weeks of qualifiers is it now? Because it's more matches again. It's like 3-4-3, 3-4-4. Do we have five weeks? No, I think it's less than five weeks now. Oh my God, four weeks? Right?
Starting point is 00:29:06 It should be, I think it's four or three weeks. Yeah, I'm not exactly. What? But there's more matches now. There's a couple days there like we're playing. There's more matches. Like, so like, like, you know. They all cramped up.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like, there's a lot of 630 matches. There's four matches in a day now. Yeah, before it was like 2-3-3, and now it's back to like 3-44-3. Oh, thank God. So it's finally like a lot more fun to watch. Like, dude, two match days are awful. Bro, just think about screaming all day and then having one match on a Sunday. Do you know how fucking miserable that is?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Oh my God, we're best Miami. I'm fucking. You do you do the three. We can't let it never, we can't. See what I wanted to do this to Ernie when I, but I didn't do it. The 4-0? You did it. You did it.
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Starting point is 00:32:28 ends 1 525. Voidware prohibited. Faker announced his first inductee into LOL. What is that? So Faker was announced as the first inductee in the... Oh. Hool of Legends goes odd. Hore of Fame for...
Starting point is 00:32:42 I mean, bro, that's like obvious. Legends. He is League of Legends, basically, at this point. Whole of Legends is a look. He's not like they he did just get You got red? He got, bro. Is it world for legal now?
Starting point is 00:32:54 He got, bro, huh? Is it who won't have a league? No, it was MSI, which is like, they're like playoffs like mid, yeah. No, it's not like a major. Yeah, it's kind of like a major, but no, they, they got a slam. Who's world for the league? Judgey?
Starting point is 00:33:06 When? Yeah. It's like, don't they play in a stadium? Like, don't they play like an actual like a football stadium? Yeah, yeah. You never seen a league tournament? I saw one. I saw one.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I was like in a football stadium. Yeah, they play like a big, like a big stadium. and then like the stage is like in the middle and then everyone's around bro you don't know these sports so you're saying right they have marching bands and like virtual yeah marching man you ever seen like the dragon club dude it is a dragon dragon's flying around like not like like like like dragons like like like like if you're watching at home it's like CGI dragons they have like this whole performance god that dragon shit is fucking they like they also like makes their own songs so like they make a song for worlds that's insane and then they like make a whole
Starting point is 00:33:43 like performance out of it yeah imagine we had a song All I hear is ring a bus for Cone Fred And then Stile on the decline Shout to Will you return to his MVP form Can ring a bus Oh
Starting point is 00:33:56 That's how you're saying Look at this What the fuck This is this is the legal Can you see that in real life No no no No no I just see that real life
Starting point is 00:34:05 Is this the best worlds they've had or am I just like Not even trying out I'm telling you 20 I think it's 2019 With like the Lou of a time That's the best one That's the one that Faker cried Broh the look at all these fans
Starting point is 00:34:16 Faker in here This is like a Real Madrid. No, that is insane. It's a no class. How many fans are actually have in the stadium? What character even is that? It's not a character. It's like a dragon in the game.
Starting point is 00:34:26 It's like a dragon in the game. Like, what do you think the attendance numbers? Bro, I'm telling you, when SSG, B, whatever, it was, T1 in this shit, bro. Whenever they walked out, I never see a stadium that full of my life. I was like, what's the attendance you think? What about? Like, how much you, how many, like, like 70K in that? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:41 That's easily, I think like 80K? It's probably, yeah. Did you have to realize. Imagine from. That's like the ruler guy. I was saying that has the best name. I think he has the best tag, but there's ruler and then there's faker. Did they have like a fucking pregame performance?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because they made their own song and this is their song like performing their song. So they get like artists. Is that fucking fake? Wait, it actually is the trophy but... No, you know, that's the one they're gonna pick up. You're 20-20. No shit.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I think it's 2020, 2019. No, no, no, 2019. We get a squirrel for not on a new one. They get a squirrel for not on that. They get a fucking... We got a squirrel that's one. That's right? Did you guys think about like the cultural like...
Starting point is 00:35:22 No, they're Korean. This is like New Year Z Festival, dude. This one wasn't insane because they have a Louis Trophy, bro. You gotta see the trophy. You have a Louis Trophy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch, bro, skip it a little bit? You can skip it for it.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Our trophy couldn't be here today. Our trophy kind of gives from it. Look at it. Look at it. Our trophy take it through TSA. You can keep going. You can keep going. Should we talk about the trophy break?
Starting point is 00:35:43 I feel like that's pretty... It's a pretty important thing. important thing to talk about. You can keep going. Yeah, we have no souvenir. We have nothing to hold on to. It's like right here. Yeah, look at this.
Starting point is 00:35:53 That's, that case for this, Louis Vuitton. And the trophy itself is Louvre. Now, that is, that is insane. Bro, look at it. It's like charge. Imagine you winning and like that's your prize. Watch when it, oh, it's, right? This was the best world.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh. Wait, this shit kind of cold. This is like some Star Wars shit. portion. And it's all dark. They have some insane fucking production. Holy shit. It's actually nuts because like
Starting point is 00:36:21 this is like the first like that uh... Yeah, Rigobust. Co. Prater. Wait. Hey dude, this is the first time that Europe got to Grand Finals. Wait,
Starting point is 00:36:30 that's always, who's always Korea and shit? Japan? Yeah, yeah. So yeah. So G2 gets to Grand Final. They were god like. And like they get to grand finals.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And this team that's in the other team and this is like they were called FPX. Like Funplugs Phoenix. Yeah. And like this year, League made a song just for the yeah it made a song called like Phoenix for Phoenix yeah and like it was just like the script was wrote in because like because like
Starting point is 00:36:51 this team FPX was like in the play ends they were like they were not supposed to be no no one yeah like made a crazy one they like slam G2 he slamed G2 he's slain and G2 that's the first time of European people ever been on the final what the fuck well they made it to back to back finals is you too yeah but they got slam both times they got slammed yeah some ultra shit damn some ultra shit so a team that came in from playing one yes bro nobody thought they're playing to win a tournament like this would be that's like that's like the piston
Starting point is 00:37:18 but it's like their their name their team name was a funplex Phoenix and the song name is Phoenix yeah that actually that's like scripted almost everyone probably said G2 was gonna win right look at that stadium because G2 be all the good like most of the good team and they were like they actually got like players and like at the time
Starting point is 00:37:35 FPX like they have good players granted but they were not good this is not a good dude faker imagine Codka do shit like this faker walking around Korea would be like Ronaldo walking around Portugal Bro, you don't see the video of him landing in China
Starting point is 00:37:49 the airport looked insane I'm not even trying to I don't know why Is for faker? Yes, just for faker I don't think he's fucking The president I mean that has
Starting point is 00:37:58 Really? You know this? Faker landing at the airport? Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm really the president there I'm not even looking at No fucking losing Can you fucking imagine
Starting point is 00:38:06 You guys landed in Dallas There's hordes of people Surrounding the airport Is that him? I'm just shocked off of the I'm on a bender from the last night. You were seeing Faker
Starting point is 00:38:16 do it. He did like a front flip on the stage. Like a little roll. Faker. Yeah. You like that? No. It was a trolley,
Starting point is 00:38:22 but it's like hard because like in the game they made like his... He's got to look like they better go to war. I mean, this team right here, I'm telling you, they were not that good,
Starting point is 00:38:31 but like this tournament, they were frying. Look at this guy. He's lost. You know what I'm like... He's probably playing his name. He's on a solo lane for sure. What is that called?
Starting point is 00:38:40 What is that called? What is that called? What is that? What is that? that call whenever like both the teams are playing at worlds but like they're both like it's like their mini montage like you like the shit that like figure was like a teaser that was a teaser like they did their teaser yeah sure was and then like last year like um he was playing like ruler or something like that and then he was like all rows yeah that's what i'm telling you that
Starting point is 00:38:59 league is definitely a league is look at this way like imagine we like faker at the chinese airport imagine like phaser Toronto and then before like all the people there are like teaser we talk and then like if we all like meet in the middle we look at that would be cool that would be cool Dude, before they, like, the final, that shit would be... Dude, this is like Taylor Swift level shit. Like, people like... Look this shit. If Taylor Swift's landing in an airport, people will come try to get a video over.
Starting point is 00:39:20 They can't even, bro. I would be... Look at it. Look at the way he's walking. What is going on? I actually saw this, dude. I remember watching this. He's like, what?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Wasn't this for the Korean? Wasn't this for the, like, the world? This is like the most recent one. The, or... No, I think this was MSI. I'm pretty sure. Oh. Like, so they, I think they had, yeah, they had a...
Starting point is 00:39:38 MSI and China. Dude, he would be... Jake Clark, he's on top of everything. That's nuts, dude. Is Codd big in China? No. Well, Cod Mobile is huge worldwide. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:39:50 That's true. Cod Mobile is like, because Cod Mobile is essentially every good thing about Cod in one game. Bigger than our scene. I mean, that is. Oh, no. Bigger than R scene. The game itself is probably the biggest call to do product because it is the best. It has all the good guns, all the maps.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Guns, camels, maps, everything. Yeah. If there was like a platform version of that game, it'd be crazy. Why don't they do that? Maybe because they want to make it like diverse. Well, our, our base is pretty much like North America for the most part and tiny bit like, you know, UK. It's monthly active. What's our?
Starting point is 00:40:22 What's actual quality duty? 50 to 60 million for Cold Duty mobile. That's actually kind of insane. What's our one? Yeah, do fucking what? MW3. Like platform, don't do those numbers. How would you even work that though?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Crossplay. Crossplay. My guess would be like, five, ten million? You can play against mobile? people on control W3 maybe 10 to 20 a whole different game I'm thinking way less I don't know if there's a millie now but you're you're underestimating to how many people play pubs and shit
Starting point is 00:40:48 no dude Tim had the dad as I come back from work have a fucking beer in their hand you could actually see it on the game that was the best yeah active players yeah but if there was less back then think about the people that shift he plays in when he screams in pubs Jesus we're fucked they won't they don't have a monthly honey but dude just like in in like Japan and Korea they have like gaming
Starting point is 00:41:10 That's like a thing you do. That's like, like you go to the cafe and you play legal edgents. Yeah. When I went to Japan or I went to this arcade place and it like it was the most like it was like an eight floor arcade and it was like it was like Nintendo or something like that. But like you go in there and there's like arcade games that like are online. Like you can play with each other in the room like an online game. And it's like a there was like a game that like had this big old like cardboard and like like a board
Starting point is 00:41:35 that you put cards on and like at the screen and like you were planning to get somebody else across the room and you will put a card down and it like spawns in a monster for you to kill his team and like you just putting cards down what bro i'm telling you i'm telling japanese i was like i'm watching i don't even know what game this is but i'm live league is so crazy that like players in like even i think the lcs in their off season they fly to korea and they play ranked over there because it's better because the people there are so much better that they go there for better practice so imagine imagine this they go play ranked in korea that's like you fly to yeah Flying to
Starting point is 00:42:08 fucking Canada. Yeah. Well, no, imagine like all, like Australians coming to N.A. to try to get
Starting point is 00:42:12 top two, like number one top 250. Like that's crazy. But, yeah, that's what they do, but.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That's actually crazy. So, like, they're fucking so competitive over there. Wow. We kind of get a fucking eights going.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It's just a career that, like, yeah, doesn't get eight we can't even get eight professional players and spawn in
Starting point is 00:42:26 and fucking play for an hour. Well, that's actually crazy because a lot of these guys are actual dog shit and they're not going to make champs
Starting point is 00:42:31 And they're not playing eight. That's the worst part about it. It's the people that want to play are actually more of the better players, which is fucking embarrassing. No, that makes no sense. Because if I was LAG, I would be fucking waking up and trying to play eights before practice. If I was fucking on Miami, if I was on any of those teams, I'd be playing eight every day. Well, they should be trying to get better.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And also they should be like, it's actually true. But when I joined the league, that's all I didn't want to play eights. No, 100%. I was going to get my name out there. It's one thing. But these guys don't get a fuck, it's embarrassing. If you're a top team, it's like, if you're like you guys phase ultra, like your quality of practice is so good that you guys have a little bit of a reason to not want to play it. It's like,
Starting point is 00:43:04 but like if you're like five through 12, you should be on every day. You should be trying to get better, but also like your job's on a line if you don't make champ. So you should be like streaming age trying to like show that you're good so people aren't like forgetting about you. I actually don't understand. It actually fucking pisses me off, dude. It makes no sense. I just don't get what they're doing. Like why wouldn't you want to grind the game to like be good? I don't know. It's the same people that that get dropped down to challengers and they can't make it back and they're like fuck. Now the cod is just very lazy people, bro. I saw. Like, if you're telling me people from in league fly to a different country to play rank play for bank.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I don't know. Okay, but to be fair, you gotta see it differently though because like getting number one or getting challenger, which is like top 250 and stuff like that in league is way harder. Yeah. Just because, I mean, league is league. But it's also too like in league people, they actually look at the rank leaderboard to like pick up people for like challenger like teams and stuff like that. Like they actually pay attention. Like when you're number one, when you're number one in league, it's like you're in him for. like that moment like you are actually
Starting point is 00:44:02 you're next up exactly so like god you're a fucking hacker for them exactly that's what I'm saying so like I mean that does make sense but still like people that dedicated though I mean yeah I mean all like all league pros grind ranked and then also too like nobody in league takes NAA seriously
Starting point is 00:44:16 so like that's why we go to Korea to play they don't take them serious at all but I feel like that's like for CS2 until like recently I feel like CSS no one took NA seriously me yeah then C91 and then C9 yeah before that bird no one
Starting point is 00:44:31 No one looked at N.A for CS. But like N-A internationally, we just begin it, bro. I mean, how much... Think about Australia when I was over there. You know what? You know what? We turned out. And it's actually funny because, like, C-9 is like the... I'm pretty sure C-9 and Leak is also, like, the best N-A team
Starting point is 00:44:44 that, like, make it the farthest. Oh, really? Yeah. They made it to, like, semies or something like that. But they just can't even, like, remotely complete. Like, bro, like, on the worldwide stage. N-A is gassing them making out of pools. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah. So, so that's, like, an accomplishment of itself? Because no one expects them to even, like, Wait, what's the price pool in winning? We're going off topic, but what's the prize pool in League of Legends? I don't know. I asked like, so like there's the NA, like the N-A-Go, his name, double-liff, because he was on 100-T. I asked him, like, the prize, he was like, it's not that crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Like, yeah, because a lot of them get paid a, like, there are millions of dollars' contracts. Like, Faker's a big-time contract is probably- Like five-mill. Fakers on the, I think, the Steph Curry contract. Wait, dude, what's the fucking Eastport that has an insist? Dota. Wait, doesn't he? Dota has, like, a 50-mill of you win champs. Yeah, Dota has 16-year-olds coming multi-millionaires.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Wait, if you win champs, you make like 50 mil. Yeah. There's like a 16-year-old who played the game for like four months, I'm pretty sure and won like the biggest tournament in Dota. Yeah. No, do you know, I was watching Simple play it last night? Yeah, it's a project. Two-point-two-mill.
Starting point is 00:45:42 What? Simple. Oh, yeah, I clicked on the shit. Could you imagine if we had that where like the fans can, like, just crowdfund? Like, I don't understand the downside. I probably do have that. It was that next year. No, we were supposed to be like last year.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Well, no, it was supposed to be like last year. It was supposed to be crowd fund. and then it fell through. Really? Yeah, no, it was. I remember reading it. It was supposed to be last year. You're thinking about fucking the charm work,
Starting point is 00:46:07 like the camo shit for champs that's going to be towards like, what is that going to be towards, you know? I don't know. It's supposed to be our prize pool. No, bro, it's not supposed to be our prize pool. You know what I'm saying that'd be? I think, bro, I think the one thing that if anybody's are still from league or ride games that, like, when people win worlds,
Starting point is 00:46:22 they get their own skin in the game. Nah, see, I want that, dude. It's exactly their skin. They get the, and then like, when you recall in the game, You mean operator or gun? Gun, gun, skin. No, it's like the whole thing. Like, imagine the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Operated gun skin. Yeah, whatever the character does, it's like, like, there's a character in the game called Rise and Faker Won on him, and he does the front flip that Faker does. Oh, that's what he does. And he has a trophy on his back that, like, has, like, Eskin, bro. It's like, like. But I'm also pretty sure they get paid a percentage of, like, the sales.
Starting point is 00:46:52 We can't even get rid of hackers. We can't even, I can't even get on the fucking game for rank. You know, we're going to have. We play three games and I'm getting shot through the wall. And the guys like, ha ha, I'm not hacking, man. Bro, 40. Oh, man, we, we may get shit. Wait, wait, wait, hold, all right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Oh, no, much. Dude, I live. So the base prize pool with 1.6 and then all the crowdfunding was 38 mil. No. No. Wait, the, wait. Stratz do to one tournament? That is in one tournament.
Starting point is 00:47:16 The most recent or the 20-21 world was a $40 million prize pool. No, but, but, but, but, bough, but they have salaries are not, like, nowhere near as a year. Okay, to be fair, Dota is, like, league the same game, basically, but it's insanely more hard. It's harder than league? Yeah, way harder. Like, there's salaries. It's because like, like, Sega paid like, now it's sound too nerdy about league,
Starting point is 00:47:35 but like league has like the little minions and like you can't kill your own millions in the game. Yeah. To like manipulate the game. But like in Dota, you can. And it's like, it's a whole, like a whole different game. Like league. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I wish I was hard. I wish it was another life why I just fucking grind Dota, dude. League. Get a, get a newborn and just fucking have them growing. I wish I, I don't know. I have newborn to be a tennis player. I think CS would be such a, fucking like game the grind, dude. If you, like, had a choice.
Starting point is 00:48:01 If I could be final at any game. I would pick C.S. Yes, it would be unreal, dude. Not what league. Imagine getting a sick. I'm telling Lee. What did you just see what they walked out to? Yeah, but I would have more fun. How did you fucking? Okay, but you got well, I just walked out to a fucking marching band.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I think Rocket Lee's up there too, though. You know, they said like, their tournament their tournament is like insane. It depends. It depends if you're talking like pure like passion or money because it, I mean, I'm not, I'm just talking about experience. Like, bro, imagine watching out to that League of Legends. That's true.
Starting point is 00:48:28 CS majors are there's so I lived in the CLG house for the more week but not like CLG during the prime like doing the prime CLG I feel like there's no level of dope than that well also like playing the game I'm not really gonna get dope like probably double but you don't know that what if you're called like a league and you should hold your own lane like you don't know that because you never play the game but imagine you'll go like a league and you're faker oh no it'd be godlike but I'm just more of like being fake or I was like imagine simple simple's fucking wait okay but too be fair being faker would be insane but imagine this the last like in their playoffs like their local playoffs they um they um they were booting them off.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So like, so like, imagine it, imagine if we need to play our match. Yeah, imagine we need to play our match next week and we're getting booted off and we can't even scrim. That happened to T1 and T1 got slammed. They got hit off for a week? Yeah, they got hit off for weeks. They could, like, you think that those people have like V-Pas. They're like forfeit their matches and everything.
Starting point is 00:49:14 They didn't go somewhere else. They couldn't like, surely that team. Because it's like some of they had like their IP to their accounts. Lizard blizzard, whatever. And like they could like, so anytime they would even get on the game like on the, like on the, not even play. They didn't get a chance. Wait. So they had the individual.
Starting point is 00:49:28 player IP, so you couldn't even go to a different location and play. And then they were also finding all their old accounts. And like, oh my God. Like, even then when they play on old accounts, they're like lower ranks. So they're just running and like they just can't scrim. They were getting spawn drafts. They didn't scrim for like the longest time they got smoked. They got spawn trapped.
Starting point is 00:49:43 What I was trying to say. So like you talked about like some like players who don't even play eights and shit. I lived in the CLG house for like a week. What's that? So CLG, countenologic gaming was like a big league team. I'm not sure there's still league and like call duty. So I was in the cold. So CLG came in during Black Ops 3 for like a year or two.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And so I lived in the house for like a week. That was when like Double If was there. I figured all the names. But like their entire lives were based around League of Legends. Yeah. Like it was like there was not, oh, I'm not going to play it tonight. It was like they were playing league pretty much every hour of the day. They would eat, go play league.
Starting point is 00:50:17 They would just grind. They would maybe work out for like 30 minutes an hour, then go play league. Like everything they did revolved around League of Legends. There was nothing else. That's crazy. What I will compare and like say is like the same is like they just made. a thing called Champions League for them and it's basically like the BPO thing that they had
Starting point is 00:50:31 where you told me this. Yeah they made it to where like there was a rank server for all of the top two 50 in like the pros and like you only play with those people and you can pick your pick like you get teams and whatever and there was like a prize pool I think there was like 50K for whoever got was first like number one ranked in it but then I think all the pros stopped playing it
Starting point is 00:50:49 why they probably just hated it they probably just don't think it's like I don't know productive right yeah they just stopped a lot of the pros stop playing that shit too but I think they stopped it completely completely now because all the players stop playing but I just like that was a comparison like ranked like they we do
Starting point is 00:51:03 have like similarities like people not playing the game but they they love rank because ranked is just like God like they still wait yeah it's the way what is the hall of legend entail like is it like a just like a whole fame
Starting point is 00:51:15 they did a whole up apparently my my homie literally just text me which is insane he said bro he said bro this event for faker is nuts I think they're doing a whole event so it's like a whole hall of fame inductee that's that's dope Jesus that guy's fucking messy, dude.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That's dope. He is super him. Who will be the call of duty inductees? Obviously, Seth. Crim. Crim. Crim. Damien.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Daman. Naid. Formal. He's actually a decent amount of that would get. No, I said that. Okay, but who's the first? Crim.
Starting point is 00:51:46 100%. Scamp. First is hard. Because, like, I don't know how many of these they are doing. And he's the first one. You got to have Seth first. I think it would be Seth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Scampo. Cumpo. Cumpo. Did he? And I would be Seth. Seth also has like a war zone chip. Is Faker considered the best of all time, Ken? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 He's considered the best of all time. Hell yeah. Like actual like not even just like following, just actual best of all time. So like accolades and like skill, he was the best of all time for like the longest time. And like the thing about fakers that the skill gap between players is that like you can play like your champion pools. So how many champions can you play like consistently at a top level? But recently that got exposed and that's why I said he got shit on because like at the last event they just played. They basically, imagine the whole team pulls up and bans only your champions.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah. All five. You get five bans and we only banned against you. So it's like banning and protecting and banning like. Yeah, that's fucking, like, like, everything. Yeah, it's like banning the MCW and, uh. Every AR, you can't even use the gun. You got to use any of the gun.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Wow. But that just shows how Dominion is. Exactly. They're banning all five. Old faker probably be able to pull it off and like, but like, I think he's having, like, risk problems as well. But like, I mean, they just won World's Lash and they dominated. So like, and to be fair. before this tournament faker was like top two
Starting point is 00:52:59 top three mid-laner he's just always been consistently top player his ceiling is probably like number one and people imagine this though imagine this though like you play against a team and they're fanboy and killing you like oh my god I kill bread that's what people like you feel like the fucking man dude yeah
Starting point is 00:53:13 like the G2 team I showed you like the European team like they're like we just kill faker what the fuck way how many times he died like twice a game what's on shit? He dies a lot but it's just like the fact that like they're just like oh my god we kill faker that's actually so sick I know nothing about league but I will always tune into worlds and like I don't know what's going on at all but I'll just be like
Starting point is 00:53:30 the atmosphere just like the commentate like the commentating and like the the super I don't know like when there's like a team fight it dude that that game's a fun watch not it is yeah like the worlds we watch with the dragon like the guy his name's ruler he's probably like the best he's probably I would say he the best 80 carry of all time but when he won they call him like the prince because he like took down the king and they're both playing that's got a lot that's a good story right it was insane right it's say, I'm not going to lie. Yeah, honestly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Now, Seth, if we had wanted, Seth would be in first, and I think Krem would be in next. I agree. I think that's what it would be, too. Yeah, Seth and then Krenner. See, that's like Faker and Ruler. Like, Ruler is like him. Seth is like...
Starting point is 00:54:07 But Ruler went to China recently. He's Korean, but he went to a China team. He started running a world over there, too. I'm like, this guy has got like, bro. I just don't know what the fuck's going on in league. Like, I've watched it for two minutes and I just see, like... I've watched at least 10 hours and I still don't understand. No, I tried.
Starting point is 00:54:20 My friend was trying to teach me to like to like learn. I was struggling. That's the one was the goal, right? Yeah. So gold tells you the whole game. Gold, whichever team has more gold is strong. I see that. They're hitting the gold and they're getting points and shit.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah. So like killing champions and so like killing other people is like gold. But like gold is like what makes your champion stronger. And the stronger your champion is the. The harder to win. Yeah. But like a lot of teams like Fitt one. So Faker's team, bro, they are so got like because like even when they're behind in gold,
Starting point is 00:54:46 it don't matter how much they can win. Yeah. Yeah. It's never. It's never G. Yeah. is never, they did, they pull off some insane stuff. Like, the other team might have insane goal.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Like, that's like the biggest way to, like, easiest way to look at is like, most of the time the team with the most kills and most goal will win unless like. Is there other gamers or just that one? Wait a man. Like is it like, is it like other gamers or just a goal? No, no, no, no. Other games was in league, but they're in a lot ranked like. They just like when they play worlds, they just play that goal like they go.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. Is there different maps? No. So like the, the difference like how to, like there's like Vito, like like they're, like, not vetoes, but like there you pick and bang your champions, but then you're going also pick blue side or red side and the difference is like I think one side picks their champions okay so like maps are the same the game is the same the only thing different is the champions okay which is a big one night yeah really yeah there's only one map but think about how good the game
Starting point is 00:55:34 has to be but there's only one map they play in professional like their matches bro their best of five six like five to six hours a house hey oh like the same map that's one match so it's like i was playing high rise over there yeah that's like us playing high arizona but we're switch the sides Which and sides and different champions. Holy fuck. They know they've experienced everything. That map might be like they could sleep and fucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:54 They could draw that map. Are there teams that like don't hit the hell? Think about how good their game has to be there. They'd only go for gold. They don't ever fucking go for the like the actual like. Wait, are the teams that don't hit the hell in league? Like they only go for small kills.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yeah. So like there's sometimes teams where like they'll build a champion like a comp like that doesn't fight drag like fight for like dragon or objectives. They just fight to like play team fights. So like we'll give you that we'll give you the objective for a minute. We're going to fight you after you cap the hill. So they play for checkouts? Basically.
Starting point is 00:56:21 World Series of Warzone. What the fuck? World Series of Warzone officially returns to the $1 million prize pool. Wait, so like, I'm confused. Because I swear like the Warzone was complaining recently about like them like only doing. Yeah, big map being useless, right? So right now it's resurgence ranked. And that's like the only thing people are playing because people aren't playing big map.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So I don't know exactly. I'm assuming it's kind of like what it always is. You have the solo solo solo solos and you have. Oh, this is the World Series of World Series. This is what's Seth one, right? Yeah, yeah, the solo. I'm playing it in the shit. I wonder.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Wait, I want Jaylen Sogs to play in this shit. How do you get inducted into this shit? Wait, into the Wall Street of Warzone? Well, I think there's like qualifiers, right? I think you can get in if you want it to. You're a champ, you'll get in there. Well, they have, I mean, I don't know. They also have invites.
Starting point is 00:57:03 So like there's, you mean you should just double-Ritude? I'm pretty sure there's people like, invited, then you have the open qualifiers. If it's only, if you're a biffle, hit me up. You know, say shit. No, biffle, biffle, come up, bro. He's like, you know, you know the kid. The only thing that I would like actually play in is the solos. Bro, in a solo war zone, you never know.
Starting point is 00:57:23 That's true. You can get the perfect circle. You can get like the perfect camp in spot. If you win, you just win. Solo winner. That's all the prize. I'm dirty camping. Or I'm dirty running it down.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Lamar came 14th. I'll never forget that watching that. Like when Seth won him, Lamar was 14th and he was fucking. Wait, what does that say that? Yeah. Lamar died to the guy. Lamar dad to Aiden. 50,000 of solo.
Starting point is 00:57:44 No way. Going down? The guy, someone killed the mob from the storm. What's set to 100K? 100K. So they, damn, that's half the prize. They call them bullshit. They cut the prize?
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's 50K if you and this all right now. Everybody cut the odds, room. We'd be cutting. Damn, we'd be super cutting. Listen, bro, everybody going to bro, just say that, bro. I might have that boy that, uh... Yeah, I'm on fucking... If the bag, if the bag is right.
Starting point is 00:58:08 The bag is right. The bag is right. Yeah, I might have to have a shifty. The bag is right. The bag is getting small, that's for sure. The bag ain't right over. there either. Did they announce where it's going to be met? They're cutting the bag.
Starting point is 00:58:18 The bag is getting cut. Where is it going to be actually? It's in London, I think it was in London before. I don't know if they're going to do London again. Yeah. Yeah, they do a land for the... Yeah, they're not in a cognitive plane this shit. Wait, when Seth won it was online, though. Yeah, I don't think they announced the location yet. Yeah, Seth was sounding, dude.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I said one was crazy. I can't believe Seth wanted that. She's like, I'm so happy because there's so much war zone, like CDO beef and then the king of the king... And then we're like, bro. Ever since Ever since you? We all were shit. No one we're shit.
Starting point is 00:58:49 No one can say shit about CIO Because no one will There will never be a war zone. That was like Outside of like CDL and just run through it Outside of like CDO like competing that was probably the greatest moment I'm gonna have been drawn.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Nah it's just crazy because like the war zone kids know like exactly every little detail And he won't be 18 for the win Which is making up I don't know what I'm just gonna run at you guys He hasn't played woolen in like three months And he's like he was dirty with stung grenades He was just fucking
Starting point is 00:59:09 I'm pretty sure he had the most Stubbed of shit people I was watching his pop He was swearing He clashed up but he was Who was squaring, bro? He stunted this right-should guy. I'm pretty sure he should have died at one moment and he fell off for that.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I don't know how the fuck he got. Could you imagine like? He stuck the right-should guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's when he should have died. His pop looked like a movie. I'm not going to lie. Oh, dude. And the gas?
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, dude, it was crazy. He should have died when he stuck, he stuck a right-should guy in the storm. He was one HP, bro. Dude, no, what's crazy about this? He has eight kills. Like, he's not like, he's not like, he's not. Lamar probably had no kills. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I was... But no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The way Lamar was playing, he had no kills. Look, he shits on this guy. Who is that? That's a difference. But this is the Goat War Zone, man. Look at Seth.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He's so locked in. Look at him. He's so locked in. Wait, right here, he should have died. Right here. Oh, yeah, this is when he's... Look at him. Oh, he's won HV.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And he's actually won. And he's in the storm. Like, if he didn't have a gold gas mask, he's... Running out of plates. Look at it. This is the right shoe, guys. That's the right here. This is it.
Starting point is 01:00:06 is it? He should be dead right here. He should be dead. Yeah, I can't believe he survived. Who's that? Who's playing for... He's Huskers? That's Huskers, I think. Is he ever gun on? Fuck me. That would have been me and Bruce if we played right there. You spoke for checkout? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Oh, fuck. Dude, he's so locked, dude. It's so funny. Watching his face. How much? It's a 1-B-1. Bro, this is starting, dude. This son saved him. Oh, shit. How many tax did he? I swear, dude. Just threw four of them. Oh, my God. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Dude, you have to think about, like, the lead up to that. Like, he was in the shower that morning. He did not think he was winning a fucking 1-B-1 war zone event. He was playing streams all day. The king is, look, that is insane dope. He was so dope, though. That is so late, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:00 So he had, like, didn't he be stream crash? He had, like, 100 plus K viewers or some shit. Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, think about it. Because if you win like a war zone tournament, everybody from like everyone else's stream floods to your stream and they say W, congrats, blah, blah. So he had a fuck ton of people to do it.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I would have been running ass. I just thought of something. Like, dude, because I remember the following year they had like the same shit. And Raseem was, dude, Raseem should have won it. Dude, he was. He was also a montage of it. And I remember I was like, I think it was Inder.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I was not called it, and we were like, no, recine doesn't win the shit. Because Inder and Resee was. When did Resee win it? Yeah, third. Oh, he got third. Who won lost? you.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's so funny. He went some guy that always win. He went back to back. He went back to back to. Is it Hesoka? No, bread man. No, no, no. Breadman?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Oh, it's FIFA kill. No, Bradman. It's just made that show. He's called anybody. It's, uh, it's breadman, I think. He, like, runs 1 v. once. I swear, Hesoka, I swear, I see Hizzo went all the teams. Him and whoever fucking coffee on that.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah, no, he's good. I bet. Yeah, no, but Hesoka needs to stick to the wars. Because he was chowling me earlier this year. He couldn't do it? In the child, you need to stick to the art of worship or whatever the fuck they do. Yeah. They love them plates.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah, stick to that shit. All right, boys. I think that's going to do it. The champions, congratulations again. It was a fucking awesome time in Toronto. It was a big celebration, both online and person. It was a lot of fun. So congrats, boys, and we will catch you guys the next episode.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Thank you for watching. Yeah, a lot of peace.

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