OpTic Podcast - OpTic SCUMP GETS FINED AGAIN | OpTic Podcast

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

In today's episode we had two of the OpTic Chicago pro players and two of the creators sit down and talk about everything Call of Duty Cold War. Let us know in the comments below what you are thinking of the new game so far! OPTIC SCUMP GETS FINED... AGAIN | COLD WAR ROUNTABLE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

They want to do. Yeah. No, I think, I think, again, these situations, obviously. Because I'm locked up. They won't let me out. Welcome, welcome, welcome to the square table, round table discussion. Brought to you by the Optic Chicago. It's more of a rectangle.

Square, rectangle. Same way. Far from a square because I wreck when I tangle. Mine's a mangle in advance. In any circumstance, I leave you shook of turbulence. You never get this. I'm up in that ass like. You'll never get this.

You'll never get this. That's, that's very. talking about Borat. Okay. I wanted to sit down with everybody and everybody wanted to sit down with me. Which is awesome. Thank you, obviously. Today we're going to be talking about the

hopes and dreams for what this upcoming season of the CDL is going to be. Obviously, it switching to 4B4. Thoughts on the gameplay. So you had to get the best, you know, the best three Call of Duty players around? I had to bring in the best three Call of the, the best

the three best SMGs in the game. game paired with the best sniper in the game it was like a math match made in heaven yeah Dylan 4 before is that your dream um I actually was like a big fan of fives which is like most people weren't yeah this guy hated fives chaos yeah but uh I like five I mean fives but that's probably because I came into the scene really like in black ops four uh during fives but I'm excited to play four before you know I mean people probably have their doubts about me and But I played 4 before back in...

You have your doubts? Who has your doubt? Who has somebody making videos about it? He was playing four, isn't? This guy seen me in four. He was playing. He was playing. Yeah?

I was a participation trophy in course. The Piers 4 was on. He was play. He was there. He was playing it. I can never make it to the league, though. So like... All right.

So here's what I like about the current dynamic of things, right? We've always seen Seth as the little brother, and Seth has never had a little brother, and we're seeing what that looks like. You don't know, that's pretty cool. Nah. Yeah. Have I always been?

Yeah. I mean, who, Nate and who else? Will? Will? I mean, Brambo? Rambo, Setti. Cereb? I guess I haven't.

So it's pretty cool. What do you say? What you say? What you said? Crum? Okay, so, obviously I like, I like that. Does it bother you? What do you treat you like a little brother?

No, he loves it. It's great. It's kind of like a weird little thing he's got going on. He loves it. He loves it. That's funny. His remarks are funny. Yeah, I agree. Got to keep it fresh. Yeah, I agree. So you're excited for 4B4.

Obviously, you've competed before and 4B4. Yeah. Never in the Pro League before. So, like, I'm excited to like get the experience, you know, playing a 4 is like at, like, the highest level. Yeah. Instead of like the lowest level. I mean, you weren't at the lowest level in your defense. Yeah. I mean, the last one of us...

You were still like top 32. That's bad. That's bad. I mean... Wouldn't it be easier? Look, I'm a... I feel like it's easier in the pro league. Yeah.

It's easier to play against the pros than it is to be in the AM scene. Yeah. It's harder to get out the AM scene. That's some bullshit. If you got thrown onto an AM team, it'd be hard to get out. What, you're saying I fell off or something? No, not at all. But like, if you're with three other AMs, it'd be harder to play.

I can see that. Being with four ran... You could be with three. random pros and still be like a good pro team. I mean I was in the AMC and grown up. What? What do you? What you did? For like you made it out 10 years ago. For like two weeks. You were played against like plumbers and stuff. These guys are playing against crackheads. That's also true. Well, not true. But let me ask you this though. Wouldn't it be like easier for you? Like if you were getting you were getting three pieces in

5E fives like you get a three piece in a four before like that's 75% of the of the category. I think there's a lot less to worry about. You could take out like one extra player. It's way more foot for the spectator. Yeah, that's like not even close. I can't tell you how many something. I mean, it happened in 4B4, too, so I'm not, this isn't a point of reference, but I can't tell you how many times I'd cheer for the wrong team. I'm like, oh!

And I'd be like this and the crowd's like, what the fuck is this, dude? I'm cheering for the wrong one. BF. Fives was chaos. Now we're going to actually have some structure again. I can't wait to watch. Fives was, search for before. Fives was similar to the jetpack era. I agree.

I think Blackups 4 was just a jetpack game. You just couldn't leave. Yeah, I mean. You just jetpacked this way. Yeah. 5E5 was whack. And I think. It's just constant.

I mean, you like that. He's young and wants to be correct all the time. And you could do that because it was a lot less punishing. As opposed to you being what old? Well, no. It's just a lot less. It's a lot less punishing in fives because you can just keep throwing yourself at the hill. Yeah.

And coming from 4B4, like even jet packs, you still couldn't just do that. You still had to play correctly. So you think that new? era, the new wave, this generation is going to get exposed? No. You don't think so? No. You think all of them are still going to be? Yeah, they're still going to be good because it still comes down to one of you

on mechanical skill and all the situations. It's crazy. This is what you say on camera, but when I ask you off camera I know a whole different. Yeah, you're like, this team's going to fall off all up. No, all right. No, I don't. No, you don't. You don't. He was kidding that. But it'll be interesting to see how people adjust to it. It'll be interesting

because I mean even like people that have been playing for 10 years like it's going to be weird going back from five as a four is because we've been playing five for two years yeah yeah so it's going to be it's going to be new again for everyone so it's not like it's you know it's not it's not like I was going to ask that because I watch a lot of videos and in those videos there's a lot of people saying it's like well this team might not perform as well because nobody knows how they're going to be when it's going to perform when it's four before it's not as chaotic so they're not going to thrive in these situations that the way that they did before but I don't see that being the thing it's the same thing when people said that guy's only good on land, right? And then once, I'm sorry, online. And then once he shows up to land, the majority of the time people showed up and they did their thing. There's a lot of liners. There's a lot of liners. Okay. Sure. I feel like it's easier nowadays to be better, like just as good on land, or at least in the past couple titles. Like for instance, Black Ops 4, like online, the biggest thing online was Camerine. People thought you go to land like it'd be like gone. We went to land and Cameron was still a big thing. even in MW, you know, like just the slide cancel mechanics.

It's worse online that it is on land, but it's still worse. Well, now we're also going to have 200 plus frames all the time. So now it's going to be interesting to see how cameras work now because now we're going to be on more, more Hertz monitors, better frames. So now cameraing is probably not going to be as drastic. So it's going to be higher FOV2. So y'all are both playing, y'all are starting off today on PC, right? Oh, yeah, 100%.

Everyone's going to be. Yeah. Every single pro. If they don't have a PC by now, I mean, come on. Yeah, you're a pro player, like, I was getting here today for a day before the game. And then, really? Yeah.

So who's setting it up? Like, are you, are you good? Yeah, I can. What is that? Well, I'm saying that you, that you, do you get at? I can type, yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying is like, I wouldn't know how to set up a new computer.

I have Matt to help me with that because I'm like, oh, what is this machine? Where's left before? I haven't talked to you guys since the Blackups two tournament. How did you guys like it? It was fun. It was fun playing on mouse to keyboard. I didn't have such a good time.

Why not? I just because I wasn't good. That's my first time playing mouse and keyboard in two years. I didn't think I was going to lose it as hard as I did. And I like lost it. It was fun until like the last two rounds. We got absolutely like smoked the last two rounds. Because like I haven't played mouse keyboard two years.

This is my first time new setup. First time playing mouse and keyboard, new mouse, new mouse pad. Like that shit makes a difference. And like I thought I was going to do better. Oh my God. We played the good teams and I was getting body. How long do you think it'll take for everybody to get adjusted to the new, the new set of gameplay

mechanics that are going to be in there. Obviously, the field orders, like everything that's coming in, from what you've played already in the beta. Yeah? Yeah. One day, you're thinking one day people are going to identify

which guns are the guns that needs to be used, AK-47? Everyone, know 45 minutes. From the beta, people already, well, we already know the MP5 is going to be the main sub. Yeah.

Like, that's known. And then, I mean... Not the AK-74 that I've been using? No, it's one of the worst now. That's one of the worst. Really? Why am I so good with it? Because you're skill base.

but yeah no MP5 is going to be a gun I mean even the Milano might be like a secondary gun those might be able to be intertwined together and then like the AK-47s nuts the Craig's nuts the XM4's nuts like all the ARs are it's going to be interesting to see what ARs actually use because the ARs are all really close

I hope it's a little bit diverse like a diverse like two AR setup Black of score. It doesn't count. Yeah. So, yeah, I hope it's like an actual main and then like a Milano is a flex gun because it has a little bit more range. And then like the MP5s are actual subs. Like a Bono Warfare 3 type like with the MP7, the PP7.

On what game? Oh yeah, the PP90, MP7 and then ACR. Yeah. Something like that. I love that type of meta because it's just like that one flex role like having because the flex was kind of weird in World War II. Well, the game was just a. Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of ARs.

I think this year is going to be similar to that. I think there's going to be... Two more or two? No, there's going to just be multiple guns that you can use. I hope so. Okay. And what's the meta looking like it's going to be right now? Does anyone know? Two MP5s.

Probably two to two just to start. Yeah, two to start. And then once people start, like, experiment. One will be one flex, one AR? Yeah. So from an AR perspective, obviously we have two of the best that have ever touched the gun in informal and dashy. Are you guys excited to play with it? I mean, are you excited to play with Brandon again?

Yeah. Don't put your feet there, Roger. Yeah, I'm super hype. I mean, I think our team's going to do good. I mean, you never know until you play, but I think that we have a very talented squad. It's just going to come down to how well we mesh and get the game, pick up the game, and figure it out.

Yeah, what about you? You've never played with Dashie before, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm super excited to play with Brandon. You know, this year, another young gun on the team, so that's super cool, you know? Yeah, I wonder who Brandon's going to latch up. on to what do you mean because he's gonna latch on to someone be like his duo yeah like he had teach and you're thinking whether it's gonna be you or him it's gonna be me yeah so

you're so jealous bro you want all of formal attention you want all of his attention I was the little you want all my attention I was the ringleader of the children blackups four okay so I so it is it is because of you that we didn't win as much he's still young-minded that's what it is I mean who isn't I know how to have a good time yeah amen are you excited to see dash you back on the squad yeah for sure it's gonna be fun i mean dashy in a tray arc game i haven't seen him play for before except for war two he was disgusting at that game right yeah he's really good of world war two yeah but sniping really good yeah he was really good at sniping i mean you don't know like world war two

who knows right ars were dropping 1.3s and shit on the regular so but he was definitely nasty yeah no his his like tracking is weird i remember like just watching him play as very as very very little there's very few from a spectator's perspective there's very few people that could use a snipe like that like that ability it's like i've only really seen like two he used to snipe he came he came from sniping right yeah but so did octade you don't see him he's like zoom i did the same thing zoom also came from the sniping community what were you said i'm saying like even just like with the air just like the snapping three pieces you can just tell it's just different yes he's nice so obviously we're gonna have the pair the the the the the the the

pair up between formal and him, which we haven't seen before, how do you think that's going to go along? Like, what do you think Brandon's role is going to be more flex than formal or for sure more flex? Yeah. Yeah. We threw Matt on the subblast here. And he was triple negative every map except for Gun Runner Dom. Did not go. Yeah.

Didn't go low. Now, we switched back. Which is weird because, which is weird because I always feel like formal can adapt to any gun at any time and just be like dominant with it. Just because, you know, we kiss his ass so much. I mean, like, picking up like a gun and like playing the role, it's like way different. If he picks up a sub, like, I mean, I'm still confident the guy that's going to gun anyone, but just playing the sub role, it's just still a lot different than the AR. And just to like, I've always been a firm believer, like, and like you should stick to what you know.

Because if he's like always switching back and forth on different maps, you're never going to find like a groove. Well, that's what flexes do. Huh? I mean, that's what flex is doing in certain games. I feel like he's not a flex, though. Oh, he's not. He's not. Who? Formal?

No, no, no. Bruce is a flex. Right. Are you a flex? Who do you think is the best? I could be. Who do you think is the best flex of all time? Priesta?

Wait, was that to answer my question? Yeah. Oh, you damn. You said that shit. Like mid-question. I mean. No, I, I, it makes sense. He ran AR, sub, and Maddox in Black Ops score.

That's all I needed to see. Yeah. Is that all you needed to see? He was nasty. trying to think of other players. Yeah. There hasn't really been a flex role until, like, recently. Like, it started in, like, World War II, really.

Right, yeah. Because you had your STG, and then you had your bar, which was your flex, and then you had your PPSHs. I remember watching you guys at those first, like 2Ks. I mean, like AWW. I mean, not AW, IW, yeah, with the K-bar kind of NB4. Yeah. But that wasn't really a flex.

Because you only, some teams only ran once up. Like, we only ran once up, so we had two flexes and one sub. Yeah. Or we said two. secondary ARs. They weren't flexes. Have you, have you been playing on the PC already? Like all last year? Okay. Obviously, you guys are about to start, but you guys did play the beta on PC. I've been playing war zone a shit ton on PC since the off season.

And how does it feel? Obviously, like, I've always said, like, you guys are playing half a game where you can't see as far as I can. It's not the same at all. It's 100% advantage. I mean, it's PC. There's so many advantages. So many. Like, if you're on PS4, you're locked to what were the Hertz? lock them 75 or 60 something like that like PC I'm on a 240 Hertz monitor are you excited about that is that is that it's insane like that's quadruple the frames that you can get that's really good for like the competitive scene and just

for like the spectator point of view in my opinion like going forward like having the game on PC is just such an advantage also eliminated the third-party devices the the chronises and stuff like that yeah now we don't have to worry about that shit which was a pain in the ass. I think it was a... And that just happened, right? Because I tried to play blackout. A what feature?

Pause feature. Oh, yeah, the pause feature. It should all be available. It should all be available. They haven't said whether yes or no. And that's one of my issues right now. Obviously, talking about Activision support and obviously the CDL support in this thing.

You know, obviously, as most as they're supporting, I mean, I think the support comes from the team owners that have invested, the amount of money that we invested into this thing, for them to be able to pay for those things to be available. before the competition. Obviously, we can't take anything away from the developers and people that make that. But now that Von der Haars back, Trajerk's back,

I think that we have a very good line of communication just even outside of the CDL for that. But in that perspective, do you think that the ability to connect your controller, how long do you think that's going to be before somebody switches over to that? Because there is talk

that it might go from controller to allow cross-multive device opportunities. I honestly, I mean, we talk about this a bit. I don't think people are going to be able to keep up and respond with mouse and keyboard. Just like pro movement. Like you watch like Warzone players play Warzone. Like they can kill, you know, the Randals.

Once they get hit with a slide cancel, it's like, and I feel like that movement, if there is advanced movement, it's really hard for mouse and keyboard to keep up. I mean, I keyboarded like and I played like variant tournaments while I was doing it. And just even like, you, I mean, you have to play on like a slow sentence because I mean, you got to be accurate, especially you're playing against, like, the pros or whatever. If you do a 180 or 360, like, you might run on a mouse space. You might not be ready for the next gunfight or, like, the constant action. And there's all these lanes and.

And you're going to have no aim assist. Like, amicest is huge. There's not really a respawn PC game. Is there? Team Fortress. Yeah. Quake. But I don't know.

I think that was such a massive. Those are like different styles of games. Yeah, because if you think it's so much on. Yeah, sort of. Right. I feel like hottest so much on movement. If you're like, if you're feeling, if you have clunky movement that day, you're probably not going to be at your best.

Yeah. You know? Well, I was also going to say like on those arenas, like if you look at how massive those things were in the verticality and jumping, like it gave you, it wasn't an enclosed map in which like you don't know where, who's doing what. Right.

Right. Especially people at your level or better that, that can be doing that. I mean, we'll have to see. I feel like PC favors more like longer range engagements, whereas consoles like, all close range and I mean call of duty is a lot of the time mostly right in your face you know trying to snap on the pc player long range I don't chel the sniper you know that's true it's useless I mean we'll have to see who knows you know we're just talking off what we think you never know

I mean someone could come in and fucking yeah shut us all down and there's definitely people out there I'm out of a job in and take pro spots with keyboard and mouse yeah but like the chances that top tier pros all the controller players get wiped is slim to none yeah that would be fun to watch I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to, yeah, I want to. I hope that what happened with Warzone, where we see all this integration of different streamers and different mouse and keyboard players

playing with the cod players we've known for so long. Yeah. I hope that happens in Cold War. Yeah. Like I hope we're able, I mean, I know for the first couple weeks, there's going to be some Activision tournaments, and hopefully we'll see, you know,

some of those people play that, like some of the Huskers and people that play on on mouse and people. Well, what's going on with Warzone, isn't it? It's just the same game. Nothing's changing. But doesn't it not come out to, like, December? That's when the integration happens between both games, I think. When you pull up, when you pull up Cold War or bottom warfare,

it says warzone, modern warfare, and Cold War. So it's like a, it's like three different arcade games. It's crazy how they're doing it, really. I mean, you're going to add another one. You're going to add zombies to that too. Right. So it's going to be four options for you to play. Again, like nobody knows what.

It's going to look like nobody knows what it's because they're going to do the reveal and all that stuff for that. But the weapon integration, are you going to be, is that, was that something that was mentioned that you are going to be able to use your loadouts from. I think so. Blackout. You're going to be able to choose which game loadouts you want to play with. But you can't. That's what I've heard. That's actually cool.

Yeah. So you could choose. I don't think so. I've heard rumors of a new map. I imagine they'd have a new one. Well, they can't have a Cold War map in the current, like all the vehicles that are. exist in war zone now. You can pick which one you play.

You either play Verdance. You play Verdance or you play... Could you imagine? Or did you guys play that like, what did you guys play that like, what a fire team, dirty bomb thing? Yeah. Did you play it?

It wasn't very refined, but yeah. Yeah, no, it was a little weird. But the map was, I thought the map was beautiful. And it looked like the mechanics were pretty good. It looked like, it looked and felt like blackout too. Like, is what it felt like. Yeah.

I feel like that out with like self-res and stuff like that. Right, right. I feel like that map was made for like blackout. like blackout too and then they were like hey we're not doing this and so they were like well we have this huge map what do we do with it yeah so from a multiplayer perspective they're launching with 10 maps

five of them are only 6 v6 so for me we've seen what three maps in this one in the in the in the beta we saw wait five of them or yeah five of them are for 6B6 now that's interesting too just we might be in another like situation like

last year where we play like an arc off peak for one of the competitive maps where the map is Way too big. I didn't know all that. That sucks. We just have no maps to pick from. Like, we need at least like 11 to 13 maps where we can go in and nerd it out and figure out which maps work. I cannot stand when people say six maps.

That they hate it or that it's lazy whenever they put maps from old Cods back in. I can't stand it. Yeah, morons. It pisses me off when people say that. Yeah. Because Call of Duty, there have been, literally there have been like 900. maps in call duty yeah so it's like and only like 15 of them have been like incredible right so why why would we want them to make more maps because we're not the casual audience when obviously like

just put like just put slums raid and standoff in like well hopefully the other ones work and it will be great to have another map that will you know be fun to watch and we'll remember forever but odds are we're not going to. No. So Carrington will Kerrinsen will probably W that you really liked. Was there one for Black Ops 4? I mean

No. It wanted Gunnrunner, but like even then. But Gunruder was just the best one. The best of the most of it. It wasn't like legendary. No, yeah. I say, they'll never be a Why, you're off-season. Do you can can you get fined? No, yeah, yeah, we still can. Wait, can I get fined, no. No, you can't.

We can't. We can. We got an email. You're an influencer. We can get an email. Did you get the email? Wait, can team owners get fined? Yeah. For what?

Wait, but I'm talking about. Well, technically, if you didn't sign a player, I didn't. The player contract, then you're fine. I did, I did, look, I'm going to come clean. I did put myself as a sub just so I can say that I play professionally when I'm like 60. No. Can you imagine? I walked in game five.

Look, the shit if we wait. The opposite Chicago should come. Oh, you know the E United videographer got a rig, whatever they were chips. Really? Yeah, he deserved it. Wow. I'm kidding. I told you that I'm getting you.

I don't even want you bringing it up right now. Anyway, so what I was like a salty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I was saying in that, what I was saying in that regard, though, is that like I didn't sign anything. And if I have an opinion, I should have an opinion to be said. In the offseason, I just don't understand what sort of, like, what, if you want to voice your opinion, how are you going to voice your opinion? Obviously, you got fined last year. How many times?

Once? Once or twice? Once or twice? There's a third one out there though, isn't it? That we haven't been to the meeting for? Yeah, I have one incoming. For some bullshit. Bro, this guy, this guy for the last like month, month and a half has been pushing this meeting. Wait, didn't I get you find? I got shit to do, man. What, you're what? Didn't I get you find in a vision episode? Did you? You like flicked off the camera?

I don't know. Did you? I thought, I don't know. I think I only had one. I got, I got, I got five. mine once and I think this incoming one is my second. Okay. And it was completely unrelated to anything opinion based at all. What was it about? Huh? What was it about? Am I allowed to say that? I don't know. Were you the wrong? Well, I made, I made money for playing a different game on stream and that's why I'm getting fined because. That makes sense. Which to me it makes. It makes sense. It makes sense that not, I don't have an opinion on it. I'm just saying it makes sense that it,

I thought you were going to say it was something like bad that you did or backtalk the game. Yeah. I didn't know how. The thing is this is like in my opinion, obviously you as a professional player, you as a professional player. If you guys want to pay, like think about this, right? Like think about professional athletes, right? You look at Roy Jones Jr. The greatest boxer that has ever existed, right?

He played a full game of basketball, I think like D3 basketball and then went on and win a championship boxing match. You know, as an athlete, you have to have the ability to use your God-given talent. as many outlets as you possibly can. As a person that doesn't get paid what traditional athletes get paid in traditional sports, you should be able to be able to capitalize on any opportunity that comes to your footstep

in no matter what it is. Well, my argument is I made my channels. Exactly. They're my channels. I'm with you, 100%. It's mine. Yeah, it is yours. You built it, whatever.

So how can that be censored? Right. The way that I always put it is like this, right? Like, Optic put us on the map, but Minecraft is a thing that exploded us into something bigger than Call of Duty. And if we wouldn't have done that, we wouldn't have been as popular as we are today in Call of Duty. And we wouldn't have all of these other fans

that came from Minecraft to watch us to do this. So why is there a problem for people to go have fun and play other games? It makes no sense to me. Hey, you're preaching. The only point I can understand, maybe like in-season, like off-season type deal, but like-off season as well.

It wasn't in the series. The off-season doesn't make any sense. Yeah. You know, let them people do what they want to do. Yeah. No, I think, again, these situations, because I'm locked up. they won't let me out

so I think look I think that the league was year one obviously they put all these they put all these parameters inside of this list that says you can't do this you can do that and as the league progresses and it continues to grow and evolve I think that some of those are going to be like okay

well this doesn't make sense because of this right the other thing is I don't think that you as a streamer you as a streamer should be getting punished for going above and beyond and doing the extra work right imagine if you if you hadn't built your personality to be where you're at today like what good does that do to the league right it's better for for the league to have you motivated to go out and grow your audience to go out go out and continue to grow your brand that's going to bring more viewers to the to the thing and I think that that's something that

they put in there that they didn't really quite understand which is understandable but well enforcing it as well though that's the thing yeah they can put it in there not enforce it but they're enforcing it. Yeah. So they know it's there. They know it's there. Well, again, situations like these, having these conversations, it's going to be what's going to educate them in the situation.

I don't think that that's going to be something that goes on. Okay. Events, there won't be a bubble. There's not going to be a bubble. There's not going to be a bubble. Guarantee. It just wouldn't make sense. You know what I mean?

So it's all online again. As of right now, from what it looks to be, until the world comes back to a some, resemblance of normalcy that we are going to have to play online. I don't know what it looks like. I don't know what I'm about to say or allowed to say or not regarding that, but we should prepare to have everything. The good thing about this is that everybody has, sorry, everybody has to play from the same facility, right? So you're going to have to come here. You're going to have to come here formal and Dashie who are moving here January 1st or the first week of January or something

like that, they're all going to have to be here and everybody has to compete their matches out of here. I don't know if they're going to be sending refs or what sort of support they're going to be doing in terms of that, but Matt got an email saying that they're going to be sending PCs to here. And that's the other thing, right? That's the other thing that people have to almost understand. The PC that he uses is way stronger than the PC that he uses to edit.

So at what point is the regulation is going to start coming in that says everybody has to use this 3080. these are the settings, et cetera, et cetera. They had that type of deal like in like Fortnite where everyone was used, I mean, you wouldn't really use a different resolution in Call of Duty, but everyone was using different resolutions and then they like CAPTA, you gotta use 1920 by 1080.

Yeah. And people were like furious. Oh, people probably went nuts. People were furious. Because that makes a big difference. Yeah. Well, if you think, back to the- makes sense.

It makes sense to put everyone on the same plane. In the pro mod days, way back when in Call-Duty 4 for PC, everybody put their settings at the lowest setting. They didn't want to see a couch. They wanted to see a box. They didn't want to see decked out building with flowers. And then they just want to see a box. And all they wanted to be able to see is a what or anything of that.

So I can understand why they do that. Obviously, it runs faster. You're able to see more, et cetera, et cetera. Obviously, imagine deleting grass altogether from what's that, that. It's like the poppy fields. Oh, the map? Yeah, the map. Cartel, yeah.

Imagine being able to remove all the plants from cartel. Yeah, that'd be one. Or thinning them out to be in that. You think you're hidden in shit? He's just looking at you. You're like, this is a bush in normal, but I'm hiding behind this microphone. This guy's on very low settings, everything. He's just looking right at you.

Yeah. So I think that there's going to be growing pains at the beginning of this. Like there's zero chance that there isn't because there are going to have to be some rules and regulations. And at that point, how do you regulate online? Online. You got to think. Why did you point at me? Well, just like, why do you?

No, no. How do you regulate online? like from you and you what you're playing at home. You know what I mean? Without having like sort of a referee here that's doing, you know, the enforcement.

And like every PC e-sport, there's been a cheating issue like ever. But our scene is a lot more, I feel, developed than theirs. Like, you know, at that time. I don't know. You don't think.

Well, maybe not like Counter-Strike. Yeah, not Counter-Strike. But, like, most e-sports, like, Cod's been around longer then. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. So it's like... It's not a pro now that's been playing for, like, say someone that's been playing as long as me, like, a decade or more, would they risk cheating? They would.

It would probably be one of the younger kids. Right. We got to take into count, too. Cod hasn't had the best anti-cheat. Yeah, that's a AAA title. That should never happen. I mean, the shit that happened this year in Warzone, and I love Warzone. I put Warzone in my top three college duties of all time now because how much fun I've had this year playing in.

But the whole. spiky shit with the weapons. I've never experienced it the way that I experienced it a couple of days ago and I was just infuriated by it. We have two more topics to talk about and then we can move on. LA Thieves, the Optic Gaming rivalry.

I don't even know why he wrote that or why you guys were like. I don't think that's just going to be a rivalry. This is my thing and it annoys me and I understand why people put it in there right? Like it's now that we're talking about the optic 100 Thieves rivalry, that's going to be the title of this video because it's going to get the clicks, right? Which is why I understand the news

sources trying to make a thing like when people try to pit me against you know, need on competition I'm like dude I'm like I hang out with this dude like it's not like the competition are going to compete and they're going to be the best of the best and they're going to handle it on the on the court but to make this like overall like

I feel like the last time it's like ESPN Titans I feel like last time 100thieves was out it was different because I feel like there wasn't like animosity but it was like the 100th thieves side it seems like we're in the space and we're in it for real so we're gunned for Optic.

That's what it felt like. And then 100thieves left, all the shit happened with Optic, and now I feel like it shouldn't be that way anymore because 100 Thieves is lucky to be in it. You know, not lucky, but they... No, no, I mean, the impossible happened. Right.

You know, the only reason that they were going to be able to get into that situation is what happened because of my situation, right? And we're lucky to be in it as well, so I feel like it should not be an animal. No, I don't think should be like a... I think we should do like content, like, like...

Yeah, 100%. I think that would be cool. I mean, I think our, I think the Empire thing is going to be our biggest rival. Yeah. I think that will stay our biggest rival. Online. Online. For a while.

Three and no online. Just saying. Just saying, man. Put it out to put it in the thing. We're online now, though. Shit. All right. So overall, what do you, what's the outlook?

I'll start with you, obviously, from a content creation standpoint. What's your outlook? of the future of this year in Caldudia. Like what are you most looking forward to? I think, uh, I think this year has the biggest potential of the past. I don't know.

Oh yeah. Five, six, seven years. I mean, you look at it. The only bad thing about this year is it's going to be online. Like if this was on land, imagine like this year would be, imagine the LA event and the Chicago event. Oh my God. Those would be like concerts.

Like they would be. They'd be so nuts. But like, I would. I feel like this year is one of the biggest years that we could potentially have because it's back to fours. It's Triarch. So we know it's going to be, if not the best game on release, they're going to polish it to the best of their ability. It's on PC. On PC.

It's, dude, just the fact. All the brands are, all the brands are like in the scene now. The fact that is, yeah, true. The fact that it's back to fours, I mean, you're going to have, you're going to have those individual plays. You're not going to have to wait three years for Lutie to get a one v. Like you're going to be able, you're going to be able to get those like three pieces and those one be fours. That changed like the whole tie. Yeah.

And it's like that those moments, like you look back and you see, you know, you see you on freight or you see, uh, Ian on Octane and like you remember those moments. But over the past two years, no one remembers shit. Nobody remembers anything. Like besides specialist plays. Yeah. And like, you know, maybe an assassination last year. It's like you don't really remember anything. And I'm excited for those individuals.

individual plays, especially from the 5.5. That's actually a really good point. You don't see, like, when you think of, like, historic plays, they're all fours. None of them are in fives. None of them are in five. Literally zero. Yeah. And very, not a lot of them are in jetpack games either.

I think a lot of the historical moments are, you know, like, unfortunately, like two, it's two years of the past. Ghost, blackups, too. I think those two years are pretty much the reason people are still watching is because of how important in those two years. Yeah. I mean, we've had great moments and amazing years since then, but I'm excited. This is the first real 4-4 game because who do what?

I don't know what was going on in World War II year. It's like the game was all over. Yeah, it was. We don't talk about that. This is like the first 4-4, like we're back to Trai-Ark. First 404-Tray arc since Black Ops 2, boots on the ground. And that is crazy. Yeah.

That's, that's crazy. See, the thing is, I don't think it's going to hit its true potential until the first DLC gets released though because if it only comes out with five maps I mean like Dill said we're literally just gonna have to throw maps in the map pool just because we don't have any other options and that's never a good thing I mean they had one less year to develop the game or whatever too right yeah no I'm and it's no flack to the studio because we love Trey arc yeah it's like but still bring if it's that difficult bring a map that's already been there

bring that bring them yeah you know that runs way up the freaking ladder yeah bring an architect the architecture of a of a pretty previous map and just flip that over to something that's relevant in that particular like Or just remake it like studio how they remade fire range? Yeah, yeah exactly. Did they like flip the map one time? Wasn't there a map that they released and they just flipped it? Dome.

You're thinking about Dome and then when it got remade it was something different. I thought it was World War II they flipped the map. Was it Detroit? No? Am I don't think so? No, I don't think so. Never- I feel like there is a map that's something about. Because even if you flipped it, even if you flipped it, you're something.

still starting. I'm trying to think. I thought there was like a map that they like reverse somehow. I don't know. Never been. Let me put it to say this. On crash, on crash, on crash you spawn here, right? Right. So the only way to flip it will be like to legitimately flip it this way to where your spawns here. Because if you just flip it, your spawn is the same thing. And when you're looking forward is the same thing. The mini map probably is a different. I guess. I don't know. I'm confused now. Either way, I think that I'm looking forward to it. Anything you're looking forward to? I just think the growing campaigns a PC is going to be our only issue this year.

I mean, like these guys said, like, there's so many positives, you know, 4B4, Tray Arc. I mean, even, like, literally when the game got announced, one of the devs, like, message in old group chat we had from Black Ops 4 just reassuring that, hey, we're going to fix issues that come up this year, like, bring stuff up, like, just to have that reassurance, like, we didn't have that last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. For real, somebody, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

The day Col War got announced, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Trairac actually takes our input and they'll change the game. That's crazy. Yeah, did you see all the patches with the slide and stuff? I mean, you think about it. Unless you're like taking out a weapon that the casual players enjoy, like a lot of the mechanics that we want change would make the games better.

Like just because we're pros doesn't mean we're trying to take out all the good shit. We're trying to make the game better for us to play, which in turn is going to make it better for everyone. We're not trying to nerf the shotguns or nerf whatever cheesy shit there is in the game. We'll just take that out. on our own. We want to actually change you want to elevate the game. Movement stuff, map stuff, like

spawn stuff. Like, I'm sure people, I'm sure even the casuals with MW, they would someone would just spawn next to them and they'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah. You know, like we wanted to change stuff that would actually improve the whole game, not just our side of the game. I always know that there's a tray-art game coming out because I don't get shit talked any other year besides

those years from Von der Harr. I'll get at random text, just talking shit. Yeah, okay. He's coming. long beard at all. We love Vaughn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, that's going to do it for this second, third episode of the round table,

square table, rectangle table, talk. I don't know. I like that name. It's pretty good, right? Round table, square table, table talk. Yeah, so if you guys enjoyed it, we'll keep doing these if you guys enjoy them. I like this lineup.

This lineup was good. Hey, we're, yeah, we're friends. We're the four best friends that anybody can have. We're the best for. Okay, it's enough. We'll see you guys next. I'm good. Bye. Leave a...

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