OpTic Podcast - OUR CHAMPS PREDICTIONS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 231

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, welcome, welcome to episode number 100, 20. Fuck, bro, 230 episodes of the Optic Podcast. This episode is brought to you by Trade Coffee and Shop of Five, and we'll let you little know about them later on on the podcast. But for now, we are on our way to Toronto. It's Champs Week. As you're watching this, put a pause in this. Hit the link in the description and go watch the streams,

because we're live right now as you're watching this. Thursday at 6 p.m. tonight, Central Standard Time. We play those phase boys. Damn. I can't believe it's already champs. Well, I can't believe it. What do you, what you, what you, listen, you know who I'm picking. I already picked them.

Picked them last week. You want to talk objectively? Let's talk Toronto for us. This is going to be the first time there. I can't wait. Tell them, are we, wait, is Mitch Marner taking us out to dinner again or no? Mitch might be laying low right now. Oh, why?

They didn't do so well. Well, Mitch is unrestricted for, Oh. So he, and the rumor is he's not going back to Toronto. Oh, he's coming to Dallas? So he's hiding. I wish he's hiding away right now. I wish he'd come to Dallas.

But I don't know. I talked to him a little bit. I'll hit him up when we get there and be like, you're doing anything tonight, but we'll see. Just wait until you see Zinney in his element, bro. You don't understand. He actually runs that city.

Tell him, Seth. He runs that city, man. He's the mayor. He's got a key and everything. Bro, it's not even, bro. It's not even a joke. Dapping people up. Bro, it's not even a fucking joke.

I'm like, who the fuck is this guy, dude? Yo, Bose, it's not a joke. Everywhere we went, I look at, I look, like, I'll be like, what the fucking sin is in? Zin's what they're talking to? Like, the owner of the fucking restaurant and shit. Networking, shaking hands, kissing babies. Bro, it's actually insane. Like, he knows everyone.

It's insane, though. I'm excited for you to experience it. Think of everything good about New York without the bed. Like, without, it's not dirty, it doesn't smell. Restaurants are good. It's clean. There's water. Safe.

It's just, it's like the perfect summer city. I can't wait. It's great, dude. There's good shopping, good restaurants. You know, it's a good city if I'm not squeaking when I'm walking around it. It ain't no, it ain't no Seattle. I'm always on my P's and Q's. What is it?

Third Street. Third Street. Ross. Ross for last. You're always mining your pints and quarts. Don't go there when the sun's down. Don't do it. But yeah.

Huh? In a city like that, you're always mining your pints and quarts? Yeah, of course. I'm always on the lookout for any. wrongdoing. It's just so vibey. It's also because, like, Toronto's so cold during the winter that summer is appreciated just that much more.

Like, everyone's out, everyone's going out to eat, drinking the whole nine yards. It's a great time. You know Ivy? You know, Ivy. You know, Ivy. He was on TSM, like... Gamer? Like Cod Ivy? You know Ivy.

What do you... Nah. You don't? Really? Black Ops 3? Team with Pac-Man? You know him if you saw him. Probably.

You know him. But he owns like a nice-ass cocktail bar there now, and we went there last time. He owns that. It's just, we've got roots everywhere. And it all stems back to college. Yo, I am not going. Listen, I'm not literally not going to sleep at night. The roots are water.

We're staying out. We're going to. It's going to be a favorite city. It is his 30th birthday on Monday. So will you come out one night? What do you mean? You're going to do something. It's your birthday.

Oh, yeah. It is my birthday. I don't want to make it about myself, but it is my golden birthday. My golden birthday. 30th birthday you can make it. June 30th, turning 30. Will you agree to come out for one night for his 30th? I'm going out Thursday.

You saw that. I'm going on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we don't have to go that crazy because we are throwing like an actual birthday thing here. The more than the merrier. Yes. Okay. You don't understand. But my tits don't understand that equation.

After we get back from Toronto. Are you saying that it's a pool party where you're hosting? Well, yeah, July 4th. I think we're throwing, it's our wedding anniversary. Oh. And it's July 5th. And then after that, we're throwing, like, is his, throwing me a birthday party. Is there a reason why you didn't tell?

I already booked my show. I'm out. I'm completely gone that whole week. That sucks. Weird. You're going to miss out. New pool. New rental is going to be done.

The fire pit. Huh? You go to Mexico? No. Chicago. Easy read. Yeah. I got a Wu-Ten concert July 7th.

It's the last one. That's July 7th. For real. It was what? It's the after party. You got the best seats you could possibly get? No, I got a sweet. Ooh.

Okay. Everyone's coming. All the homies are. It's a dude. 6-090 NPDP. We're going to be the villains. We're going to be deep in that. Is Leo pulling up?

Yeah, I think he's coming. Hell yeah. You know it's a party. Stay away from that gangbangers. I don't know. There's a lot of gangbangers. Toronto's always. Toronto's like our,

it's like our end of the season, Shabang. It's like the, I mean, we have EWC, but. But it's also Toronto. Toronto's like every year we're like, fuck yeah. It's time to go to Toronto. So it's like,

this is one of our. You're like, oh, we're going to Toronto. You're like, this is one of our like, yes, we're going to Toronto, not like, fuck, we're going to somewhere else. I just hope we didn't gas it up too much and you're like, oh, it's all right. Like, I think you're going on. No, no, no, no, dude, we're legal. Bro, it's better than. We're at a great start.

Yeah. In the meter, it just, we're already like, it's looking green. Exactly. Like the future, it's looking green. Yeah, exactly. The future is green. Why would you tweet that? I didn't tweet it.

I said it. You said it. With my vocal cords. The future's green. I was loving it. He thought there was unlimited or. I couldn't wait. The future is green.

You just high-fied my reason. The funny part is when that happened, everyone's like, well, we don't know. Boston's green. And money is green. I'm like, they're not wrong. Everything is green. Everyone's like, come on. That was your rebuttal to everything.

Boston's green. Money's green. A lot of things are green. Yeah, so we were on the fence about like, about, being at the venue for a while. And then Riley finally was like... Finally got the info that he needed it. Well, yeah.

Well, we wouldn't be able to see the stage. So people are like, why aren't you guys going to be at the venue? If we could have seen the stage, I think we would have been at the venue. Like, if we had a good camera angle. Because if we can't see the stage, like, in the background and actually be able to see it, like, we're like behind the stage and you can only see like the backdrop and shit or like the back of the stage. It doesn't really make as much sense. Yeah.

We need like a good... So we're doing it from an Airbnb again. We are. but we're doing meeting greets so people are probably asking well if you're going to do an Airbnb in Toronto why don't you just have it here we usually have it

since you're not going to be in venue because we are going to be in venue Seth and I have meeting greets on Saturday and Sunday so we're looking forward to meeting all of you there it'll be right as the doors open so get there early

because as soon as it's done Seth and I have to get on a shuttle to get back to the watch party hour and a half so we're going an hour and a half there hour and a half back and then so that's Saturday is going to be a long one because it's hour and a half there, meet and greet, hour and a half back, and then five matches.

But you're sleeping on the hour and a half back, you know what I'm saying? I can't sleep in cars. I mean, I can if I'm, like, exhausted, but if I'm, like, just waking up, there's no way I'm sleeping in the car. I'm going to be fine. What are we doing during that time? Yeah, me and Mark will be starting the show. Well, no, we'll be...

The matches actually start kind of late every single day, so we'll be back, like... Ample time. Yeah. Doors open at 12? I don't know when they open But matches don't start until like what? Two third? No, like three there.

Three Eastern. Because it's Eastern. Two p.m. Central. They might start at like 3.30. It's either three or three 30. You know what? I'm concerned about whether or not it ends in time for us to go get

that sweet, sweet, sweet, succulent dinner from wherever it is that we're going that one night. Dude, I'm telling you, man. Oh, starts with a pee. Prime seafood palace. It's that great. Own by Maddie Matheson, Caviar State. Lobster pasta.

Last year. year I was saying it was the best meal I had all year. It's really good. Yeah, it was insane. Okay. They gave us a tour like the kitchen for the vlog. It was awesome. Everyone there was super dope. It was awesome. It's a great time. I can't wait to go back to that city. I called Isaac when I was home in Jersey. He goes, there he is. What do you need? I said reservation for six. That a boy. But let's take a look at the bracket really quick. Yeah. We have it. We got, so it's four, four, or five one. So four Thursday, four Friday, five Saturday, one Sunday. Sunday. See, what do you guys think about Sunday? The only match is, is finals. I think, I think that, I think that they should

have winners finals and champs on Sunday. See, I, we should have two matches on Sunday. I do kind of like that it's Sunday because, I mean, just being a former player, if you're going into that Sunday, the just build up and intensity of that night, you're going to bed, you're like, yo, tomorrow is the fucking day. So you know the players are like going to bed with that thought, and I feel like it kind of just amplifies that feeling. Because, I mean, it's, this is what they play for all year.

I mean, the ring is obviously the most coveted thing in Cod. So it's like, when you're going to bed that night, it just adds that like, ump factor of, yo, it's ring time. Who's going to come out and show the fuck up? I can't wait. It is a bit like, I don't know. I saw some comparisons on Twitter, like with CS and COD. Pussy, yo, by the number, TB, Brady.

I take my bottom out. Who the fuck? Yo, block him right now. What the hell? I don't want to see him no more. Yeah, him. Wow. But every single match.

Oh, you can mute him, actually. Mood him. So you mute him. Yeah, okay. But every single match besides that Thieves Breach match, I mean, are just bangers. I think Thieves breach is probably pretty one-sided. I mean, Ultra Carolina, too. That one's interesting.

It depends what Carolina comes out. And what Ultra comes out, too. I mean, Ultra hasn't really been playing too great. Yeah. Bless you. Bless you. But they had, what, a month? I mean, yeah.

See, that's the thing. They've had a month. I mean, Cod's been kind of in a weird spot for this month. I mean, at least competitive Cod. I've been playing Warzone and shit. Don't say weird. It's like piss poor. It's like beyond.

We've never seen something like it in a long time. Yeah. I woke up to a text, and someone was like, right now, Blackop Six has 2,000 viewers, and he listed, like, six games. I was looking for Blackop Six last night to try to catch the finals of that tournament that was going on, and I literally couldn't find it, like, you know, the brows, it does it by viewers, and I was like, where the fuck is Blackop Six? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I had to, like, really. It's a little worrisome. Speaking of, is that man. When you click it, it'll be in, like, the first three or something. No, no, never the first. Right. Unless is the game just really. Well, you'll just see.

it like bring up that that Toronto shit talk that they were doing and then obviously yeah we just had the the counter strike major we did a watch party for and everyone's comparing that tournament now to call of duty which I do think there are some people like like Rafi tweeted like a comparison like CS major versus cod and it's like the counterstrike arena versus the Miami major it's like come on let's be a little more at least put one of our good events next to it oh you know know. Well, listen, first of all, let's start this. They did last year. Don't recall tournament from them. And then somebody says, Optic is not hosting champs? We'll wait until that. And then Toronto Ultra says, is your beloved Optic or Faze doing anything for the community by putting a tournament on?

Now, look, I understand that this is like some social media guy. I know that this isn't the owners of that. So I'm going to take it easy. Okay, because the social media guy, you need to, you need to understand the space that you're fucking in. And you can't be talking shit about neither face or optic on what we've done for that community. Because if I wanted to, I could be an asshole and say that the only reason that there is a fucking CDL is because we have built that community that you get to fucking make a living off of giving your organization a bad name. Now I understand what it must be like to be on a team that isn't as beloved as optic. I get that. But for you to bring. for you to bring us into something that we had not like optic isn't in there if the green wall is saying what they're saying is because they're saying what they're saying okay but i will say this if a md wants to give us some cash to throw a tournament we'll show you what community looks like damn cooked and i don't want i don't want this fallout to be on uh

why are they doing that on a toronto ultra account might as well i'm saying the real account That's why I didn't say anything like when it first came out because I didn't even see I I've been pretty disconnected I didn't even see this yeah this is one with the social media manager just saw red typed it and then later in later in bed was scrolling and saw it was like oh no got a text like what did I do yeah it's not that it's not that that that that again I didn't even want to fucking address it but he needs to understand so he doesn't give his team a bad name again I addressed something earlier I just think I I love when people people like talk without knowing anything like someone tweeted about how uh Tommy was doing

cS watch parties and then we magically did a CS watch party so I replied with the page text I got from June 13th that says content next week and it shows optic CS watch party in 10 days from now yeah so I'm like this is why you just sometimes don't speak on certain things as if as if you're right secondly it's like dude we can't watch Counterstrike well yeah we can't watch what do we I've been watching Counterstrike. Who started watching my whole life? Who was the first watch party? Listen, we're not going to talk about the Huntsman pregame show.

Okay. Secondly, we're cool with the flank and all those dudes. So for anybody to try to pit that shit, like... That's the weird part. Yeah, that's what people always get up, though. You can't even like look at that shit. Yeah. No, I don't.

I literally think he just brought it up. You can't even like take that seriously because it's like... Guys. They know that's not true. Yeah. And just so you guys know? We know that's not true. So it's just like...

Let them be, let them fucking be in their own little. You know, Tommy replied to it earlier, and I was just funny. Listen, at the end of the day, you are going to see a UFC watch party. You are going to see a Super Bowl watch party from us. You're going to see it all from us if we choose to do that. You know what I mean? Let's talk about CS real quick, though. Yeah, please.

Because that was one of the most awesome e-sports atmospheres I've seen in my entire life. Just sold-out crowd, Austin, Texas, players rising from the floor with spotlights on them, Live slow-mo camera. I mean, look at this shit, bro. That's so dope. This was also, this was insane. So just to preface this. Amazing.

The Mongols were in the grand final against Vitality. The Mongols are the official team of Mongolia, sponsored by the government. Awesome. And this was one of their crowds. I mean, this looks like it could be a Stanley Cup Watch party. Literally. That's so awesome. The amount of people there.

That level of support from your country has to be one of the most insane things ever. Look at all those people. I guarantee you that not all of them fucking play or watch Counterstrait. Some people brought just someone with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And now they're

There's like, hey, baby. Let's go on a date. It's going to be dope. Imagine if you walked out like this. You came up from the floor like this. Like Drake and shit? Yeah, no, that's so fine. It's like one direction.

It's like black people. Who do they go crazy for the most like that when they came out like this? There were a few. I mean, the crab was rooting for Mongols for Mongols in the Grand Prix. final. These guys have won seven tournaments in a row. The Mongols

have? No, Vitality. Oh, I was going to say. They won seven in a row, bro. They're just like on a history, by the way. Just, just. Oh. Well, they kept chanting like, fuck you Apex. Like, fuck you Drozza. Like, he's like literally C.S. Draza.

After he won, his interview was hilarious. He goes, I love the fact that you guys want to fuck me. Dude, he was hilarious. The amount of F bombs that he dropped in the post gate, Yeah, one of those two soldiers on the side. Seven times. That's not.

It's insane. That's an actual thing. Look at them. That was there. You got to touch me. I like that guy. Look at him, bro. Lock the fuck in.

None of them do. I love that. Yo, and then they do these random slow-mos. Dude, CS production is crazy, bro. Yeah, yeah. Look at that screen. That is like IMAX, but better. Right.

But yeah, the CS major was super fun to watch. I mean, I think CS is always I was tuning in throughout the week. I watch CS regular, not regularly. I'll like tune in if it's like phase playing or something. I haven't watched as much. It's always been that game. It's always been that game where if there's a tournament going on,

you want to watch it. At least for us. Like League of Legends is super hype, but I feel like League is a game you have to play to understand. CS is just ingestable, especially like as an FPS, like it's pretty self-explanatory, but it's also so intricate.

it and the way that if you do play it, I think you have a different level of appreciation for it. There's a learning curve. The consistent lineups, the spray pattern, the everything. CS is fun, man. Like, five years ago, I had like a crazy CS arc. I mean, I was playing until like 3, 4 a.m. with like Goonjar, Looney. Like, we would just five-man stack ESEA every night just loving it. That's awesome. Loving it.

It was so fun. I thought I liked CS more than Vow until I actually started playing both. and I think I like Val better, but Val is definitely more like visually satisfying. Like when you get a kill and you hear the little noise. Oh, yeah. It's like playing a piano. It's like more arcady.

For real, yeah, it is. But you guys want to do our winners round one predictions real quick? I would like to. Let's do it. Now that we're finally here? Yes, I would. I mean, it's weak off.

I just did my price picks in the room. Yeah, I'm going to be throwing some prize picks in for sure. Oh, my God. You got to do it before we leave, though. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm, okay.

That's what sucks. I'll be throwing little darts. Yeah, it's like what sucks is that, I mean, we're only doing Thursday. We can't do Friday, Saturday or something because we don't know how it pans out after that. So you can't do any picks there unless, of course. Yeah. No, we can. You got a VPN?

No, someone will be here. I need you to log in, Joey. I need your login, Joe. You send him a text. I got a text. Throw this one in, Joe. Come on, Joe. But all right, let's go.

Thieves breach. Thieves. thieves. I'm thinking thieves. Everyone, that's pretty... Thieves are the favorite, I think, going into champs this year. Yeah, I mean, they won the last two. I mean, they're back to back. They look insane. Thieves are probably the team to beat at the tournament.

Definitely. Second matchup gets spicy. Surge heretics. Dude, I want to... I literally want to... Yeah, Serge hasn't been that same, Serge. Well, they just got last at the last major, so... But they went back-to-back grand finals, the two tournaments before that.

But 0-and-4, both times. Yes. So, Grand Finan, but they've still made quick work of everybody besides And then Miami looks insane though. They're consistent. I'm going surge, though. You go with the Kuw? I was going to say the same thing.

I do one. I want to go for the Spanioles, obviously. That's the y'allos. But I'm going to Serge. I'm going to Cubs. Yeah, I'm going to Serge. Wait, is everybody doing, I'm going to Heretics then. We're all going, Sir.

Okay. Besides Hector. Phase optic? How do I have to position myself for this one? You know who you got, you got to pick red. We'll pick green. Okay. I'm taking phase.

Yeah. I got optic. I'm taking us. Purely reverend. Jinks. I mean, I'm... I mean, we have to get over the hump. Like, we need to close out a close series against...

Like, we need to beat Faze. It's probably going to be close. And I think... If we beat Faze, we can beat anybody. You know what I mean? Like, it just needs to come together at the right time. I mean, do people are coming to my chat?

They're like, do we have a chance at champs? I'm like, fuck, yeah, we have a chance for it. A hundred percent. If you win three matches, you are literally in the grand final. Yeah. Three matches. You need to win nine. And every other team like...

And people call us like biased and delusional, but we've had close games with Faze, but we just... Can't... Haven't won them. And this one we need to win. And you remember that rewind? It was like a four-point game, like... Yeah, came down. There was a four...

A Beez-y pops a four piece at the end. It was nuts. Yeah. It's definitely doable. A hundred percent. Listen, man, they're human, right? Just need to... More human than human?

You need to come out hot. And once again, I've been saying it a lot, but there's no better time. I think to play phase, then a situation like this, before they get hot, before they get rolling. Round one, man. Everyone's got those first game jitters. It's champs. Like, you know what's at stake. Can't make mistakes, though, man.

That Ultra Carolina. I'm going Ultra. I have Ultra as well. I'm going Ultra, but it could be an interesting series. Depends what Carolina comes out. And like you said, what Ultra comes out. But I think Ultra has been the more consistent team throughout the year. I'm feeling like Teage.

Yeah? I'm feeling like Tej. Champs Tejj, Tej, initiates. I mean, I want Teach him to beat him. Don't get me wrong. I want Teach to win that series. I think Joe Deceives might be showing up in different form, man. Joey D?

Joe D's good. He's still a kid. Like, he's waking up excited. I need a coffee, a few things to really get going. He'll wake up a little bit. He's waking up like, champ's day. Yeah. Pop's right out of bed.

Oh, God. Since we're on the topic of Toronto Ultra, that what I said earlier was in no means they called for anybody to go harass anybody over there at all, all right? I just wanted to teach the young man or woman who's behind those things that a community, we did our work

and we continue to do our work. That's all I'm saying. So you got Royal Ravens too? No, I got Toronto. Yeah, I can't wait, bro. It's fucking champs, dude. Every match, like, dude, those days are just going to fly. Like, we've watched every year, we watch every regular

season match, you know, bar a few maybe if something comes up, but, I mean, I mean, this is, it's time, bro. Are they facing each other, like the state? I don't know what the stage looks like. I hope so. I hope so, too. Get those pop-off shit talk moments?

Yes, please, bro. I just hope that, I hope the event is as good as it possibly can be. The matches are going to be great. The matches are going to be great. Your so. The location's not as great. I mean, just to, but I still want the tournament to do well. I never want Call of Duty.

Of course. No matter what to look bad. I always want it to look great. I want things to go forward. My bar going in, pretty low just because it's in Kitchener. Like, it's not Toronto. People are going to have to travel. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of Canadians that wouldn't maybe go to Toronto, like, that are closer to Kitchener that might be showing up. Hopefully it's a good turnout.

I think, I mean, it's champs. I just hope that it has a great atmosphere. At the very least, for the players, viewership's going to be good. Yes, champs. As I said at the beginning of the vlog that I'm recording right now, I don't like, again, you know, champs should be the crowning moments of a define or the defining moment of a season. The fact that we have ESWC after that puts a little damper on things for me personally. EWC. For me personally, I wish that there is a moment in time for next year that we are able to say,

all right, how about we throw another major, major, what is it, this will be major five? This will be the fifth term. All right. Why don't we do a major five wherever? and then we do ESWC and then we do EWC, did it again What did I say?

ESWC, that's the event that was in like Paris and shit. ESWC, EWC, okay, ESports World Chances. He's an old soul, man. I kind of feel like that too, though, Hector, I'm not going to lie. Yeah, like, it's like in the back of your mind

if you fall up, well, if you come in the top at least how I'll feel, I'll be like, yeah, we feel short, but it's still another tournament to make the bread back. I don't view it that way. I don't really like it that way. I view it would have just an extra big tournament. I don't.

Okay, let me put it to you like this. Last year, we won champs, and then somebody else won the last tournament of the season. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I mean, we still won champs. Everyone cares about champs more than WC. They say that, but it's still on the record. Like, it's still there. Who's the best team of that last season?

Us. Us. I don't know. Phase one, the last event of the season. No, man. Still argument. You know, I don't want there to be no argument. I don't want there to be no fucking argument.

So if. I guess, first of all, but I don't think it's a negative. Maybe you could flip them and. champs would be after EWC. Because of the scheduling, it doesn't work that way. What I'm saying, though, is let's add another tournament. We usually have a tournament every fucking month. You're saying EWC is champs.

I say EWC. Or combine. Yeah. Damn, that prize pool would be fat. That's what I'm saying. $4 million. Viewership records will fucking break. What I'm saying is that there shouldn't be anything beyond champs.

Champs is champs. There shouldn't be this extra thing. As important as it is, as awesome as it is, as great of an opportunity. as it is for the players. I'm saying let's have five majors. ESWC. He struck out.

He struck out. EWC. Boom. EWC and then champs. But to clear the record, what did ESWC stand for? Oh, yeah. I thought we had to switch them. I don't remember.

E-Sports World Cup, right? Maybe. What does E-WC stand for? E-Sports World Cup. Okay. But it's EWC. Whatever. Whatever.

No, I get what you're saying. Ideally, yes, I do agree. Yeah, if they swap, it'll be cool too. End-all, be-all. If it's between this or not this, I do prefer the extra tournament. It makes the season longer. Yeah. Although, I mean...

I mean, dude, imagine there's not another tournament. We're done end of June. We have all of July, August, September. New game typically releases end of October. That's four long months. Which is why I'm saying this should be a major of a drought. And then two world champs. I mean, this month was a long month leading up to chance.

No players streaming. The players that were streaming were playing Counterstrike. There's been no hype around Call Duty. There's no marketing around it, no talk around it. It is what it is, man. But I feel like it kind of markets itself just because it's champs, but I agree there should be like more... Bro, the only thing...

The only thing I really care to see, bro, I don't want you to put up billboards in Times Square. I'm not talking that type of marketing. I'm talking using the in-game client to bring over the casual base and let them know, yo, the pro players are about to play for millions of dollars. And then you see the champs pack that got released,

the absolute spit in the face, the arm of fucking dillo that makes no sense. Skins were ass, the actual operator's ass. It's so bad. It's like everything about its ass. It's so bad that Roger took it upon himself to tell Peterman to throw in our hat to see if we can design it for him next year. For free.

But it's champs. I mean, it's going to be hype. No, I'm excited. I just, I just want to see this thing go forward. Roger, show me this year's skin shit? No, no, this year's, this year's. What, the armadillo? Damn, this guy's already ready.

I don't want to see it. I wonder how many of they sold. I haven't seen, I'm not kidding. I play Warzone every day pretty much. I haven't seen a single armadillo on the map. Not one. No, that's not it. No, no, no.

No, the champs. The champs bundle. I haven't seen one. I was talking to Clayster, and I want to know your guys' opinion. Because Clayster's always had this opinion that we should play the game out of the box, and I think that's a drag. But there is something to be said about the way we used to play the game. Back in Ghost, there was thermal, smokes,

Stainville used to run a different perk to throw trophies faster. What is that? What is that? That's absurd. Oh, my God. They literally don't give a fuck. The fuck is that? Like, and also, look.

I'm not going to say what I'm going to say what I'm in Texas. It's not like it doesn't. It looks okay, but not as a champs pack. It needs to be themed in champs. Agreed. What I was saying, though. I'm going to see as many armadillas in Toronto as I see in game. None.

I want to know what you guys think about this. So Clay's always said play the game out of the box. I think it's a little like it shouldn't be out of the box. But think about some decisions used to have to make, right? You used to have to run different perks to hide from thermals. Like there was a level, there was more strategy back then compared to today. Well, Warzone fucked that. Which I think should come back.

But do you think we'd have more developer support if we played the game in that type of way where there's... Actually, maybe. Where we're using more things... Where you can bridge the gap between casual competitive a little easier? Like, do you think the developers be like, okay, they're willing to meet in the middle and use thermal, smokes, cold-blooded? Well, all comes back to money for them. It's like, can they make more money? If they could make more money, I'm sure they'd be like,

yo, they're using shotguns and shit. Let's throw out bundles for shotguns. And, you know, like, they'd probably be all over that. I don't know. It's just whack, bro. I mean, it's literally just whack. Yeah, now, this is bad. Kind of a spit in the face, but what are you going to do?

What are you? When I remember in a... We've already exhausted all options. We've tried for years. And they have awesome. Like, they have awesome other packs. Oh, yeah. Like, they have the capability to do something fucking awesome.

Yeah. And it's just, this was bad. What a step back. What a step back. Did we get, wait, did we get like a little champs sticker for our stickers? What was the bundle last year? Yeah, the bundle last year was. But, hey.

We had like the Wallace and stuff. I don't know if that was the champs bundle, though. Blackop 7's coming up, baby. New Year. I know, but what is the bundle for last year? Listen, I'll always be stupidly very optimistic about next year. First point blank period cheating needs to be the number one priority for next year. Oh, they got to figure it out.

But we've been saying that for how many years now? Well, it's gotten worse. I feel like it's gotten worse and worse year after year. I feel like the beginning this year wasn't that bad, but now it's terrible. That's how it is every year, though. Like the World Series of Warzone apparently was a joke. No World Series of Warzone for you? The qualifiers.

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Like, if that champs pack was good, we'd be shouting about how good it is. It's not like we want to... I'm like, nope, there's a dope. Q us up again. I love Cod. Like, I love everything about it. I've been playing... I love rotating. I love fucking... You just got to give us a reason to shout. I love... I love trying to need in the air.

Wait for that shit to get a hit money. I love everything about it. When the Call Duty 2 come out? I've been playing for 20 years. I've been playing Call of Duty for 20 years. I love Call of Duty. I love everything about it.

I'll say it again. I feel as though Call of Duty is more my game than it is their game. That's how much I care. It is... I'm not talking shit about the game that I... I didn't like to see the comparison between Counterstrike

and then the Miami thing. I didn't like to see that. It's not a good comparison. You know what I mean? I like to see that. I love Call itty. I want it to succeed. I want everybody that,

I want everyone who wants to compete in College Duty to be able to compete in Call of Duty. But I feel like gun play this year. I mean, we always talk about Black Ops 6 and how was it. Black Ops 6 actually had so much potential, but then obviously cheating was the number one issue. And then number two was the maps. They got to have better maps next year.

Got to fix cheating. Gunplay will be good. They're making some changes to Omni Movement. I'm sure those will be fine. People are going to like those because everyone likes Omni Movement. movement. Yeah.

It's just the pillars of the game are quite literally making sure it's a fair, fun environment for everyone, no cheating, and then having good maps and good gunplay. That's it. And then obviously cosmetics and stuff kind of add on to that to make the game more fun and some more customization, but... Shit is crazy. Gun play this year was good, movement was good, maps were bad, cheating was the worst it's ever been.

Yep, yeah. And it only gets worse. Oh, yeah. And I think that comes with ranked being released super early this year as well. They released it super early. Everyone always wants it super early. We got it super early this year, and it turned out to be probably one of the worst ranked years ever for just playing the ranked playlist. Because like the first season, not bad.

You'd run into some cheaters here and there. Second season, it's like, okay, now every other game. And then third season, you're playing a hacker every game. Just fucking losers. The best it was was that random time where. And it'd be, I forgot, I think it was in the beginning. It was the day after the patch. Yeah, the day of the patch.

Yeah, that was the best day of rank. It was no cheaters, everyone was on PC. It was great. 48 hours. Yeah, at least the first couple. The guy that was banning people disappeared and more hackers got on. At least the first couple seasons, like, if you're streaming, like, if we're playing, you know, we're quad-stacked and ranked and we run into a blatant cheater, they get live-banned on stream.

And it's like, okay, all the people on our stream just saw them get live-banned. decentivizes people to maybe go cheat now because he just got banned. And then as you go on, it's like, yes. And then they start backing out of games they get you in because they don't want to get. Or they turn their cheats off because they don't want to get banned. But then that's just us. Now think about all the people that are playing the game that aren't streaming and are just getting hacked on every game.

There's got to be a way to like separate it. So if you want to play Ranked Warzone or Rank Play, then you have to download like an anti-cheat. Like download it because I still to this day think that's what they're scared of doing. They're scared of making the casual. base download something. But then all those people... For the very small percent of people that get cheated on.

Think about it. We always talk about it, but more often than not, if you're a casual player, you're probably not playing against hackers, right? Correct. Well, they did the, what, you had to win, how many pubs? 50. Like, I, I mean... For a hacker, that's nothing, obviously.

Well, no, they just buy an account for a dollar. Yeah, that's what they do. Or that, yeah. It's a dollar or $2, they buy an account, and they're right back in. You can't do anything. Like this. My fuck is they're selling it. I mean, the only thing is to make an anti-cheat.

Yeah. but then it's like people aren't going to want to download something that's actually invasive on their PC because then there's privacy shit and are they taking information and people are like what is this doing to my PC? But Valerite does it? Does CS does it? They have to. I don't know if you download. Maybe you do.

I think it automatically comes like when you download the game. Yeah. You have to reset your PC for it to work for Valerant League, like all that shit. Like whenever you download the game, you literally have to reset your PC to be able to play. I've been traumatized since Lizzie. Squad. If I have a streaming PC or a gaming PC, nothing's on it. These motherfucking, there's no

Twitter. There's no, like, I don't log into no emails. I don't, I don't download nothing on there besides. I'm literally that thing is only there for that. You remember that video? Hey, bro. Let me play my game. I just spent $60. How long was that shit down for? Like a week. Yeah. We couldn't play for it all

week. I think it was months. But yo, the best part about that, that was like peak social media. That was back when social media was just hilarious. These Lizard Squad Goofies. Different times. I just bought my game. Yeah, I mean, we just kind of went out on a tangent, as we always do, because we want to see the game get better.

Champs this weekend, going to be hype. We can kind of put a bow on it, but it's going to be fire, man. There's no way. There's no way we weren't playing for 23 days. Hold on. Hold on, Roger. Hold on. A PlayStation Network PSN did go down for a substantial period of time, specifically 23 days.

Holy fuck. There's no way it was down for that long. Yeah. Were we on Xbox? at that point maybe? I don't remember that. Look at when it occurred. Look at the date.

What game was 2011? 420. Cod4? They're poised. 2007 with Codd 4. It was MW3? It's 420. Oh yeah, we were on Xbox.

I'm pretty sure. Yeah, we were on Xbox for MW3. Yep. I think. Oh, I definitely was. I'm pretty sure we were on Xbox. B-O-1, we were on PlayStation. We were on PlayStation.

We were on PlayStation. Yeah, B-O-1 was PlayStation. It was that. I wonder what had like we were probably playing on Xbox during the time I'm pretty sure but in 2011 we had both who probably was plugged in the Xbox I don't think we were in tournaments then

Black Ops 1 like I think it was that was a little bit before no I was playing like GBs and like 8s no not ECHL ladders Not eights Yeah eights I think so No there were PCL ladders still at that point But I wasn't playing PCL at that time But by God was one I definitely went to somewhere

2012 was like my first MW3 was when I was basically pro Cops home was fired. Dude, I still remember the day where it was Cod4. We were like, we finally were playing TDMGBs and shit. And we finally were like, yo, let's sign up for the PCL ladder. We played like team fear first. And we were like, holy fuck, we're about to play fear. Got slammed.

Because we thought we were hot shit. We were like, yo, we're top of the TDM charts. We're like one of the best TDM teams played one comp match. Got slammed. We were like, what the fuck? We started scrimming and shit. That was the start? Oh, man.

I still remember that feeling. There was nothing better That was the start I can't even Nothing better than call of duty For GPs I'm telling you I can't even

Nothing there was nothing better in this world Nothing nothing will ever touch How it was Game battles Call of Duty 4 back in those days Nothing will ever touch that For me Even

Remastered I mean just Broda all those I loved the world that were What that war Matt packs It was good It was good

It was good On Skop Tarasaka, I'm your man. That's even karma's best favorite game. Yeah, Sally No-N-N-N-N-N-O. He was the best one that way. I remember playing those fools. Yeah, he was good. I think we beat him.

There was a team called Merkane. Dude. Jay Sobs. I can only imagine what it was like for you guys. That one was Dougie-Fresh. Back in the day, it was so different, though. Dude, because if I was having fun with my above-average, actually top 5% skill.

in Call of Duty. I had a blast. I can only imagine what the top 1% were looking like. So fun. Oh. It was so good, bro.

MW3 was amazing. Getting on, going for double moabs. That shit was so fun. Getting a stalker, getting a full perk package. Fuck it. Gunned aiming in fast, not moving or just zipping across the mat.

Yeah, the silenced MP7. What was the sniper from Model Warfare 3? L-L-L-N-197? I think the intervention. No, not for Monofer 3. W-3 was not intervention. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. DSR?

No, L-SR. L-SR or something? MW3Cod-211 snipers. Yeah, Intervention. MSR, but it was like the Intervention. Oh, yeah, what is it? I used the XMR. Oh, no, yeah, the L-Eleven, L-18, L-11, that one.

Boy, you didn't want to see me with that shit out there. That's fire. This one, like, scuff started coming out. No, Black Ops 2 is when I started. Like too quick had to scuff and we used to be playing against him and shit. Be like, yeah, this fella fucker got a scuff, yeah. He scoff, jumping. He's scoff jumping.

I didn't care because I was clawing. He's slim in his pad. Yeah, you were good. Carrachi run that way. That's not the double MW2. You know, it's funny though. There's some rappers out here that I'd be playing Wars Zone with. And one of them, their brothers, they rap.

And they both play claw. He said, yeah, my brother used to play Akadi. He used to watch Skump. and he used to claw, so he taught me how to play, and then I started claw, and I'm like, oh, that's funny. Started a revolution. Yeah, of clas. Nah, well, I wasn't the first one to call. No, I know that.

People are calling forever. Bro, I could, I would not be able to my brain. I'm not going to lie. I've tried. I definitely have tried to switch. Like, it's just, uncomfortable. Yeah, you got to be out the womb doing that shit. I mean, yeah.

Well, once you get paddles and, like, it's just muscle memory. Like, I can't play with paddles. Liv plays Fortnite and she plays with claw. Really? Yeah. That's what I'm jealous about you for. You could pretty much get any controlling and you're good.

That's fucking great. Instantly just fucking binginging. To be fair, like I could pick up any controller. But like he's doing what a scuff can just stock. You know what I'm saying? Give me,

give me more from... That's a benefit. Yeah, of course it is. I wish I could do what I did growing up. Like back when I could just like... We were talking about this in J's chat, be able to do everything without the paddles. Yeah.

Yeah. Like being able to jump shot without it. I used to be able to jump, drop shot, take my finger off the thumbstick. But it was like. But it was like. It was like a maestro. It was just like a wizard. It was just, it worked.

For real. We were talking about this in Jay's shot. The jump, the jump, the jump crotch through the window? It used to be so, like, it was so fast. You jump? Wait, the what? Mojo jump. It was quick as hell.

For rookies who came along and saw Mojo like doing the mojo jump. Oh, I was, listen, I've been here since Cal-Dirty too. It's a mojo jump. That's the Mojo jump for sure. The little run jump crouch into the window. Then they took it out. I've been doing this is Call 32 with a pistol. The hex jump?

No, no, no, no. Listen, you guys, we can call it the Mojo jump because we know what it is. I remember that, bro. That's so dope. Mojo was talking shit to my brother once. Like, talking shit, and my brother said, all right, my phone, bring a pillow to the next turn of him. What? He's not put him asleep.

Bring a fucking pill. My brother didn't know. Oh, okay. Yeah, you don't fuck with Tooms. Look at these maps, dude. Anyway, so we bring it back to 2025 as we sit here today, June 23rd, June Michael Jordan, heading into Toronto for our, what, 25th World Chance? Michael Jordan.

I don't know. I feel good. I feel good about the weekend. Don't do this, Roger. What? Compare an MW3 maps. What was y'all's favorite map from B06? From this year?

Yeah. Hossi. No, you can't be a retro map. Then it's a vault. Volt? My skyline. You guys know that I'm a skyline feed. Which one skyline?

What do you mean? Which one's skyline? It's definitely skyline, actually. Mine's, I don't even want to say it. Wait, which one skyline? Remind me? It's low-key sky-or rewind. Oh, yeah, right there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like skyline. I like rewind. I like it. I like it. It's not going to be a popular. Derrick for pubs is my favorite. The upper left.

Derlic was fun. During the race, you get a Babylon? Oh, dude. I love that, man. Ew. You get Babylon? Babylon. Something about the dullness of that map brings me back to...

Something about the depression of that map brings me back in time. It brings me back to depressed my depresses. Sub-Sahomic during the years too. Hey, look a big Pam in the house with shorts. Look at those trunks, dude. I was telling you, yo, we were leaving yesterday, Bose. I'm like, man, Pam, I wish I was your size man. I'd be walking around and knock him off just to see if I could.

Yeah, he's a lover. That's why. Yeah, he's a lover. Luckily. Yeah, man. Shoulder checking people and shit. That's what I would be doing. It's such a sweetheart.

He don't do that. For the record, I wouldn't be walking around just fucking punching Randos and shit. What's that? What's up for me? What's up, man? Yo, Matt, we switched to. We're playing Hilo-1V-1 again.

There's bees? Where? What the fuck? They're probably traveling. Okay, that's good info. Oh, shit. It is a huge swimmer bees. Damn.

It's a lot of bees. Roger, can you screenshot that and put it in the pod for whenever they're editing it? At the end of the day, I'm looking- 30 minutes? Bro, I want this champs to be the best champs that's ever. I want it to be the best tournament that anyone has ever thrown. I wanted us to win, obviously, to make it feel even better. I just want what's best always for Call of Duty.

I don't even give a fuck who it is that's leading the way. But we have to be in agreement. The location going forward has to be a major city every time. Every single time. You need to... Okay, but let me play devil's advocate here. Allen's center is not Dallas. But, okay, within 20 minutes to Dallas is okay, in my opinion.

An hour and a half is... If you can get to a Dallas restaurant in 20 minutes, that's okay. Yes. If the Toronto event was 30 minutes outside Toronto, that's not bad at all. Correct. No one would be saying a word. It's the fact that it's an hour and a half. Yeah.

If you're 30 minutes from Vegas, that's not bad. 30 minutes. As long as you're... As long as you can get there within 30 minutes, you're okay. I'm telling you, man. Champs in Vegas has to be... be a thing. I'd be so down. Champs in Vegas has to be a thing.

London event next year. London event? Listen. Please, man. We're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're we've been there in so long. I love to throw two events next year. London, the fans in London, too, they're always, they're always so vivy, they're all drinking. I want to go back. I want to go back during a West Ham season so that I can watch a game with my man. I fuck with my UK. My UK brothers. It's crazy how similar Brazenga and Nick look. Now, right? Yeah, no.

do look very similar. One day I walked in and saw Nick here and in my head I thought Bazinga was here like doing like a pod or something and I was like holy fuck that's me. Ethan, Ethan. What? Is this our first pod since we golfed? Oh yeah. After champs I'm going to get lessons. It's already done. Oh yeah? Yeah. You liked it? Because the schedule's just been so crazy like after champs. I mean we had eight weeks in a row. Then we had a month off. And then we've been playing split gate every weekend so I like haven't had time but after champs when the schedule fully opens up yeah I'm going to get fucking lessons. Fuck yeah yeah I'm learning you want to let's go together bro yeah it's about time let's go together because I finally understood it to be fair I was against

it for a while I was like a golf hater not like I would just like I don't see myself going out there and playing 18 like I'm impatient I don't like being hot and then we went out there and did it and I was like top golf doesn't do it justice because you go to top golf now I understand yeah you go to top golf and Like you're drinking, you're eating food, you're eating like wings and shit. You know, you're like going there to have a good time. When you're actually out on the course, like trying to improve, yeah, I hit two good shots the whole day in three and a half hours. I hit two good ones and the one, my best shot made me need to go get lessons. Because I was like, dude, if I could do that consistently and be able to go with like all the boys and hang out and actually like play, that feeling is probably unmatched.

Would you start going to the golf gaming club stuff? I don't know about all that. What about the good, good? Yeah, I mean, if I could play, I mean, if I could just play golf, I mean, it's just, you go out there, good for networking, go out there with people. No, to hang out. I'm not saying let's go fucking play 18 with the, with the boys. Yeah, no, I mean, it's just, it's a good time. I mean, if you have a business meeting with someone, yo, let's go golf.

You talk about golf or you talk about business, you have a good time, you're golf. Like, it's just a good time. I just, you can go on boys trips, Boy Strip. Girls can come. But we're golfing. They can do it, but we're on the course. It was all.

I would love to get decent. Although I'm sure it's definitely going to take a bit of a rips. Matt said, like, after nine lessons and, like, a couple plays, you'll be able to, like, play. Really? It's pretty cool. I feel like after an hour of lessons with an actual instructor, I feel like, because even tush, like,

He was trying to give us, like, tips and stuff, but like an actual instructor sitting there watching your swing, fixing it after every time. Like, I feel like you would get exponentially better so fast. Because just too is telling us little things we got better pretty quick. Yeah. I had a lot of fun. I'm excited to learn the game. Of golf. Well, I'm glad that we're about to start golf.

I need more hobbies. I need more hobbies. I need more hobbies. Now that I got my foot, this is not my foot, but now that I got my, let me see. Yeah, you got a good swing there? Look at that pose at the end. Nah, you see how stiff that is at the top? Yeah, you're stiff at the top.

But, like, I'm not, I haven't golfed, so when I get some lessons. Damn, look at all these jiffs. See, you're swinging. It's got to be a pendulum. Your, you're, your, my short game was all right. My chipping and putting was actually not bad. Yeah. My driving is awful.

Horrible. Let's see this form. Oh, no, look at your two, your knees are too bent. Oh, it's not bad. He got a bad guy. Yo, fucking Nate shot. Nate shot was posting him, him swinging. But it went far.

Dude, and then when Tush is like, you peered it. I'm like, oh, I peered it. I don't even know what that means. But I know it's something good. Yo, I'll tell you what. When I saw, listen, just yesterday I think Nachad was posting like him swinging and I started giving him tips. I don't know anything about golf.

But I just started like sending him text. Like he's like, oh, man, you're tightening up on your follow through. you're not getting a full range of motion. He's like, he's like, my bro must be dumb or bored, one of the two. Yeah, I'm definitely, I'm going to, I'm going to take the, take the leap. It's time. Cool. Turning 30.

It's a big 30, man. It's time. It's time to start my golf arc. Yeah? Yep. Matt's going to love it. Yep. I've just, I already told both, both Matt's, Nate and Kendrick.

Yeah, Matt and, uh, Matt and Kendrick went golfing recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're breakfast, and he's like, I'm going golfing with Nation tomorrow. I'm like, oh, dude, sure told me, I could have driven you guys around, smoke a joint. That's what I like to do. Anyway, listen, I'm looking forward to this weekend. I want everybody to please tune in, support the boys. It is going to be a tough first match, but I think we're going to rise to the occasion.

And if we, and you have an hour and a half commute. No matter what. Yeah, that's fine. I got, yeah, that day. You take a chopper? Oh, I'll take a chopper. Absolutely not. What's it called?

Uber, Uber copter? No, it's called Uber Blade. Uber Blade. Uber Blade. I might, I might. I would never get a helicopter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be on the ground.

I'm terrified. I've already been, I've been on like three helicopters. You want to take a chopper to kitchener? Nope. Absolutely fucking not. Couldn't pay me. I couldn't pay me to get any one. If you told me, Zinn, I can get you to your destination in 15 minutes via chopper or it's a six-hour drive.

I'd get in the car. Six hour drive. No. I swear to God. Dude, you know, I used to be, like, I used to be so afraid of flying

that I would drive from Chicago back home because I didn't want to fly. I would drive 11 hours instead of take an hour and a half flight. But now I'm good, but then I was like, I would drive 11 hours through the night. In the snow, mind you. I mean,

I understand why people can be scared of flying. Like, do you ever just take yourself? Yes. Like, every time I'm in the plane, I'm like, bro, how is this possible?

I'm like, we're in a fucking metal tube. There's thousands of planes around us. I don't care. There's one landing at the same time as 50 fucking yards away. But see, that's the piece of mind. There's thousands of planes around us, and how often do they... Someone had to come clutch. What, Nick?

Nick walked in fucking do it with this. But there's thousands of planes around you. How often do they actually go down? We're not talking about that. We're about to travel in two days later. But if they do, I mean, yeah, but you can't stop it from letting you live your life. If it goes down, we die legend. Amen.

Insurance policy? I mean, my family's, they're good. All right, guys. Thank you for watching the pod. I hope someone to get in that count because my shit's going to be a lockdown. It's going to take a little scraping and digging. It's a good.