OpTic Podcast - SCUMP DEFENDS NADESHOT IN 100T CONTROVERSY | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 89

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

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Don't take criticism for someone you wouldn't take advice. That's been one of my creeds lately. I knew that was going to stick with you and I said it too. Yeah, I'm just fucking ignoring people. I've been telling you this. Why do you even go on Twitter after a loss? I don't know. I don't know.

I'm going to tell you something. I don't know. I'm going to teach you something. I don't know why I do it. I'm going to teach you something. It's like I want to be fucking roasted. That I believe. He's got a st.

Welcome, welcome to episode number 89 of the Optic Podcast. Brought to you by Stamps. ship something a note a postcard say hello to someone kind of upset that uh you were in LA didn't send me a postcard you were in Hawaii didn't send me a postcard postcard from Hawaii yeah dude your hair's looking kind of nice thanks I need to get a haircut you got a good flow there I need a haircut badly thought about growing mine out again don't because I feel like don't don't I feel like just as I'm getting older, it's like, am I imagining this or is my hairline always been like this? It just keeps like kind of.

I can tell that it's back. Listen, it's back about, I can see it from here. It's back about an inch. What the fuck? An inch from the hairline? Just kidding. I think your style looks good right now. I do too, Russ.

I don't think you need to switch it up. Agreed. All right. You got the look going. I think you need more tats. That I do. Listen, I'll tell you what. If I wasn't here, I'd probably say that you're the best looking dude in Optic.

but I am here I'll take second I agree with that See you later They're Max Shout out pine park Max Later brother

So I was I You know first We had a loss in the family Jude's mom passed away So super cool lady You know Her presence is

Is felt and missed Because of that I wasn't able to go to the party Also I had a sty On my right eye from I figured out it was Henry Big ass dog

Big ass dandruff Put his butt in your face No I hug him right I put my arms arm And I just hug him hard as fuck Like Until he like push us off And in doing that

Like his one of his It had to have been dander Got and clogged one of my poorest Matt said that it was pink eye And in order to get pink eye He said that you had to have been Did you not say that Talk to the mic Matt

Wait Matt has a mic You get a lot of styes man Yeah so is the second one And the last one happen when I was hugging fucking Henry also. Anyway, long story short, I was, I was deformed. I felt ugly and I didn't know how most of you walk around just not be good looking. Yeah, that's good.

Anyway, Matt said, I'm hot. Matt said, it's like, you had to have been around poop at some point. And I'm like, every day, 7.30, I'm producing it. I'm around it every day. And this never happened to her. See, I'd be going whenever. We're not. See, no.

I'm shutting this shit down literally right now. cool. So we don't have to talk about that. I know whenever, wherever, though. Okay, not me. Not me, not me. So we have some Labor Day merchandise going on sale on Friday, Matt? What is that? The Evergreen production? What is it?

I think it's just a sale. It's calling. Like whatever merch we have. Oh, yeah, yeah. We got some stuff left. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Shop.com.com starting this Friday. Go ahead and check it out. I wanted to touch a little bit on the, I wanted to hear your opinion, your opinion, your opinion, obviously as creators, on the, on the whole Nate and Frosty drama.

You as a creator. What's all with you, Nick? I haven't, I haven't heard enough about it. I woke up to it this morning and all I saw was like I saw Jack's tweets and like feel like I lost a little brother, but I haven't seen like the clips or anything like that. You're going to feel you in really quickly on what happened? Yeah, I've been so far. I'm assuming it's like Frosty was talking shit on stream kind of.

Yeah. He accused him on Twitter. About 100 D's. And then Nantraulton responded. on Twitch in a stream and then frosty streamed. Yeah, I haven't really seen anything. So the accusation was that

I don't know I feel gross talking about other people's drama. We're one of those. Yeah, you know, I'm and also last time Matt had a had like a disagreement with somebody else.

I gave my opinion as to how I saw things from nature's point of view. But I said from nation's point of view from the perspective of a team owner running a business, right? And I'm like, And I also, I was like, oh, cool, you're going through what I went through with your ass when you, when you went somewhere else. And now obviously like, this is different though because, you know, Frosty essentially what he said is that they weren't getting paid enough and that they lived in a house and they were living paycheck to paycheck and this, that and the other.

And that the internet had a lot of do with it. Was our internet good at the fucking 60-50? Was internet even good back then? No, no. It was just right. I don't know. It was not good. We had like Comcast or something.

Like an 80 down, 30 up. Yeah. Something basic. Yeah. So anyway, I don't know. I thought it was so off base of, and I don't want to get involved in the shit, man. But, you know, as a hardheaded MFer that I am with the way that we do things, like, if you don't want it, you're not going to fucking get it. If you have obstacles and you don't knock them down, you're not going to get to where you need to.

So the opportunity that Matt, Natchat, and 100 thieves gave to these dudes. I mean it started off like he literally went from being coolest flock in the mob has always been cool period but they didn't have the popularity of the viewership that natchat and company exposed them to on that anyone given that opportunity and this is what when you have millions of people that watch these things millions and millions and millions of people that would kill and do whatever it takes to be in a position of having something. somebody back you like that, they would fucking kill and destroy. And they didn't. They didn't execute at the end of the day. I don't know. I think this is like an example of like... What the fuck?

What? People like, hold on. They're ready for it. Yeah, I think this is an example of like, Nate truck giving opportunity people that weren't like, I mean, I don't really know these guys that well. And I wasn't following that closely back then. So I don't know how much they were streaming.

But like, when I first moved in the Optic house, like I saw Seth. I saw Nate. I saw the kind of hours they were putting in. And it was different. Like these motherfuckers are streaming a lot Like they're grinding And when you force people to grind Like when you just push it you say like

Here I'm blessing you and you grind now And they aren't like bought into that completely I think this is kind of like what you see It's like they think they're ready for it And they think they can do it the right way But obviously nature didn't think so Well you need a plan and you need a vision Like we saw we saw the end goal at 60-50

Like we didn't see Obviously the max potential that we could hit but we saw like where we wanted to be we saw the other top creators at the time and we were like we want to be there you know and and it's hard without a plan and I feel like

like what you said if you get pushed in without like a content plan it's really hard to like get on and stream every day especially if you're not like super talented at a game which like no disrespect to the mob but like they're not professional players the personality

they've never won a trophy or like gross players at video games so I I could imagine it's really hard, though, like from their perspective to... There's doing what they think they should be doing, and then it's like, is it really genuine, and is it really what they really want? Like, because, like, I don't know.

I mean, I don't know. The one MAKO guy, he left, like, pretty early on. I think he just, like, didn't want to do content creation or, like, be on camera, and I don't know, he felt, like, really uncomfortable about it. And it's, like, they probably all thought that they were going to be completely fine with it until they actually get there.

they actually have to do this stuff. Then one of the members just left early. So I think that kind of fucked them as well. Yeah, well, they broke up the mob, yeah. I just think it's hard. I mean, it's not easy. It's not for everyone. And I'm not saying that the mob couldn't do it because they definitely have personalities for it.

But it's really hard. Like, it just is. It's hard. Like, you have to have a plan. You have to have, like, you just have to have ideas. You have to have a schedule. You have to want it really. Like, there's so many different moving pieces that go into it.

I'm not saying they didn't do that because I don't really know shit about this drama and I'm not trying to get involved. But much chance. Yeah. It's hard. Like I'm assuming all their lives were online. They had the cloud. That's why they were able to join 100 Thieves. But then like they moved to L.A.

They were probably getting invited places all the time. Like they're waking up hungover. And then it turns into like they think they're in this lifestyle now. And they get it. Yeah. Like they made it and no. They're in L.A. Maybe start going.

I really don't know. but I'm just kind of assuming, but I don't know, so I can't say too much. You also got to think about the period in which this happened to them, right? Like, they hopped into 100 thieves around the time where Ninja was ninja and he was like in the middle of like hanging out with all 100 thieves. So the mob got immediately introduced to the ninjas all the world. Courage, obviously was on his fucking ascension. Valky reined them. Like, I think they blew up a little bit after that.

But once, even after they blew up, they were still put against these, these like mega, mega personality. on the internet. So although they may have not, although they may have not been ready for that. And you got, listen, I was a man by the age of six. No, I'm kidding. By the time that I was, by the time that I was 17, 18, I knew that it was up to me to take care of myself. So I don't, I'm not ever going to give anybody, any man, okay, or women, but any man, a pass on saying, I didn't know what I was getting myself into. You know what I mean? Like you have the resources, What? I mean, it's daunting.

It's a lot. It's a lot. Mm-hmm. It's not, like, it's not, it's a lot. You just get thrown into it and like, but you could have said no. But you could have said no. I mean, yeah, but it's a lot.

Like. You could have said no. You don't know what it is until, like Nick said, you don't know what you're getting yourself into until you're in. Nick, did you not know? That's also kind of like the beauty of streaming, though. Like, like, in content creation. Like, you don't, you don't know what you're going into.

It's like a, it's like a journey that you don't know until, you've done it and like we all experience it i'm saying that's what i'm saying i can speak or all of us like when you're streaming and like you have a really good month or you have a really good year like that whole year is just so exciting and you want to keep streaming and you want to keep going because like you see what like your stream is getting to and you're like holy shit this is crazy you know yeah yes i feel like especially my first year into it like i didn't watch youtube videos didn't watch any optic videos so for me it was such a i swear didn't but for me it was such like a brand new experience i was like oh this shit's kind of cool like i can just sort of think

like what video am I going to do tomorrow and that's when I was going hard on YouTube and it was just kind of exciting um so for me it was not hard getting thrown into it I think it got harder once I got used to it and you stopped getting like a a little dopamine rush from like the views or all my YouTube's popping off and you sort of just get used to it um but at first it was easy for me I was like excited to do it and you came hard too right like it was like it was like your production and your ideas were fucking solid. Like really, really,

like better than they are now. No offense. But that's like, yeah. Also, also once I got comfortable, what helped is I think your ass always, I would be like just dealing with the stress of having to get yelled out by you.

Like what the fuck you? Like you haven't uploaded and like this and like that definitely helped as well. Because sometimes at least I needed that push. Yeah, Hector's always push this. You never had to push me. No, I know that.

But the thing there too is like, I'm pushing you to make more money for you. You know, like yeah, optic benefits at some point, so we all benefit at some point. But at the end of that, you get paid first, right, with your own work. Yeah. So, like, when I hear the stuff about the houses

they were living in and that, like when you are in this world, the amount of money that you make is up to you and solely you. For sure. Period. For sure. I don't think that's always true. No?

So you're telling me that the amount of money that you made last month, hey, you chose to stream and to upload videos, wasn't up to you? I mean, yeah. but I've been doing this forever. So it's different. Yeah, but I'm saying it does.

You chose to do it initially too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You chose to go down on this whole journey. Now you're like, I mean, yeah, but choosing how much money is definitely not always up to the person. Yeah, I'm not going to say. Yeah, I'm not going to say I'm make a billion dollars next year.

That's just not true. I get what Hector's saying, though. I get your point. I get the, I get the motivation and yeah. It's also, it's also tough for us to have that conversation because we've been together for like 14 years,

almost 10 years here, you know, 10 years there. So it's, it's, It's harder for us. It's not an easy thing. It's not an easy thing. What the fuck actually happen?

You can't just fucking blow up. You can't be like, I'm going to blow up and then just blow up. It's luck. It's hard work. It's a lot of different things. It's not just, you're like even some of the most talented motherfuckers in the world out there. People that can sing, people that can play guitar, they're never going to get a chance. So you can't choose how much money you're going to get.

You can't say that. But your effort can reflect that. And also the amount of money that you spent, whether you choose to live, what you spend your money, that's all up to you. What's the saying, isn't it? like opportunity is when, or success is when opportunity meets, preparation. Or some, some shit. You know what I'm saying.

Luck. Luck is when preparation meets hard work or something like that. Yeah, opportunity meets hard work. Whatever it is. We get it. I just, man, it's like where, where this thing has, just, and I, and I almost feel bias having this conversation like defending Matt in this situation. But, man, I just know the opportunity that they got.

When they got that opportunity, you know what I mean? I was like, I was like, damn, they are getting the fucking hookup to get paid to grow and make a living off of this thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I also don't know. Like, only, only them, only the people that are involved in that thing really know what happened. Like, they could be watching this and be like, we were streaming 16 hours a day. Exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Like, I really don't know. I'm just kind of talking on my ass, but it's like. Yeah. And look, I know LA is a more expensive place and I know that there were some category restrictions. On that that apparently never saw the, what I mean, there was just so much in there, man, to unpack that I was just like Really? We don't know what the fuck happened. Yeah, we don't know what the fuck happened. Yeah, and I'm my own business man. The only reason I'm talking about is because it's up there and I don't want this to be used as a title or a thumbnail, okay? Oh, it's definitely being used to both.

Matt's like, look at him. He's like, holy shit. He's like, yeah, all right. Winks at himself and shit. Yeah, I. Oh, man, I don't know. It's a tough situation because I know that they did get along. It's a tough situation because, people are sort of forced to pick sides. And although this dude may have not have wanted the consequences that are currently on his plate, I don't know. It's fucked up. Situation's fucked up. Did it just kind of come out of nowhere?

Because it's been a while. He just like randomly went off on show. He just rehashed it. Matt Mad said that. He probably loves his shit too. No, he said he's not going to be online ever again. Who? Really?

Frosty. Really? Yeah. Damn. See? I don't know nothing. Again, you could have said no. No, I don't want to move to LA.

Let's not change the mob at all. Let's keep everybody where they're at. We'll get the same salary that you're doing. Bring us opportunities and we'll continue to stream. But to use like a bad internet and like you had been internet for an entire like it broke up the dynasty because of your shit internet. Okay. That is not one. I know, I know, I know.

Whatever. What I'm saying is that if you want to make it work, you make it work. In my defense, I did everything I fucking could to get that internet fix. And they couldn't fix it. He didn't move. What internet company can't fix it? They couldn't fix it. You could have moved.

You could have gone to office space. You could have moved, yeah. Yeah. You know the frog? Yeah. It's such an easy thing to just pick up and fucking move. Like, God. You think it is?

For you? Yeah. For me? Yeah. For me. You know, you fuck off. Anyway, moving on from that, you know, I don't know where that thing goes. And I truly, it's none of my business.

so I don't give a shit. Now I'm pissed too, man. Now I'm just pissed off. I'm so mad. I'm just, World War II red barring, rubber banding the whole map. My fault.

Still managed to win though, right? No, we didn't win that year. No, no, no. Did you know we got every place in that year except for first? That's second, third, four, top six, top eight, top 12, top 16. Did we actually? Yeah, that was on purpose, though. That's kind of impressive.

Yeah, you guys were creating a piece of art. You're like, we're so good that we can. We're sick of winning. Look, we can get everything else, too. Yeah. He's like, no goal. Formal's like, look, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm number one. Oops, I'm sorry, I lied.

I'm number one, two, three, four, and five. Shout out of KRS one. Dude, imagine how much different everything is if we get that kill on fucking Ardennes Forest on the hard point. You remember that? I don't remember that. You don't remember that? It was like a pivotal. It was like.

What about the attach kill? What if the artillery kills him? Also was pretty pivotal. That's what I was thinking of yours. What? Calls the Eastport is just a fucking It's a thing Yeah it's a thing

It's a fucking thing He ran through an artillery and We broke up So we You know faded We're looking He just blew up Oh so faded

And I think he knew that He was like This is so dumb It might work Light work No it might work And it worked Yeah

And we're still talking about it Four years after Crazy play Crazy crazy play Always guaranteed I'd say We can get a piece this year. We haven't had a chance, man.

I'm really happy that you chose to stay competing for one more year. I hope that you, you know, reconsider at the end of this year. Then you could, I want to see you play until you're, I want to see both of you play until you're, as old as Nick. How old are you? 31. 31. So how old are you?

27? I'll be, yeah, 27. So four more years. I'll be 27 throughout the whole year. Went you at 27, though? It's, you lose pretty much everything. Well, I'll be 28. Maybe for years.

Wait, what did you say? Once you were 27, it's all down hell and you lose everything. Davis tweeted out some Fugay shit yesterday. What, what do you do? I mean, I obviously. He said age has nothing to do with Dude, when you've been playing for 13 years,

you don't think your hands start to fucking be different. You lose your focus, lose your drive. You don't think your hands start to stiffen up a little bit? See, Davis did some Fugees. It wasn't that Fugay, I saw it. So you don't think after. 13 years of playing, like... I didn't say it has nothing to do with it,

but people, for some reason in Call of Duty, people think once you turn 26, you're, you gotta retire. That's... You don't have to retire, but... That's what people think. That's what people think. That's not what people think.

Okay, go on. Right? And so, like... So when you see other, in other e-sports, or even in sports sports, people are like, like... Look at, like, F-1 drivers. They also have access to...

You're gonna tell me their reaction times bad? They're like, what's the average age of an F-1? driver. Well, the reason I tweeted that is because a physical therapist. A 30 year old just won a melee tournament. And melee shout out mango. If you watch their hands, I mean, it's like this. That's how they, that's how they move. It's like a

claw. What does that say? What was I say? The average age of an F1 driver. Think about an F1 driver. Do you think the reaction time is bad? Are you kidding me? All I was, all I was saying is that... I don't think it's reaction time, that. All I was saying is that a majority of the time, it doesn't have to do... I think it's wear and tear. I'm not, I think on hands. I think a majority. I think a majority of the time, it has to do with other things besides physical, like, like your hair.

You're saying it's a passion. Yeah, it's a passion. I think it's a passion thing as well. Well, before you go, before you go, on the on the frosty nature stuff, obviously TST is very like not the same or anywhere near, but it's like a, it's like a group of friends, a group. Like how did you, what did you think about that? Like obviously the mob being a group, you guys being a group under an organization. I mean, we kind of touched on this yesterday, but like we, the three of us aren't, aren't the people that are going to have any sort of like. Like, like, we feel a certain way about this because like, like, Blake and George quit their entire jobs for 2000 a month. And they have families and like as a wife and, you know, George takes care of people as well. 2000 guaranteed a month. Guaranteed a month. Okay.

Yeah. And it was, that's not, I mean, that's that's not. I mean, that's, that's an opportunity. It's a risk because it almost didn't work out for like a whole year. We'd grinded for, you know, we had 150 viewers, 200 viewers. And, you know, eventually it turned around, but we streamed eight hours a day, you know, five to six days a week for a year and a half for that to happen. So, I mean, I view a lot of it as excuses and I love those four guys a lot. But, you know, it's just one, I think that's making, because, you know, I think it's just frosty.

And just in general, the mob in general. I like all of those guys. But, yeah, I view a lot of that as an excuses. And I think, I think Frosty got sort of like a little bit of like a reality check. Like in a in a in a in a in a big way and I hope that I hope that it's for the best you know same All right y'all well said Well, they hear that they're like no you fucking idiot you have no idea what was happening It's a curly-headed 16 hour day curly head it fuck tST got lucky shit

Makes a new video about now there's me from a t s t s t hitch obviously Hitch obviously hits them with a fucking funny meme and then after that he's like all right tournament happening this week TST versus the mob who's right? I don't know

oh man signing private selection I think this one we can touch on really quickly private selection obviously being they started out as an apparel company in downtown Dallas

you've been there we've all been there and then they started making videos on the internet was that we got our shopping spree that is we're no no no but we should I didn't know that they existed until later

because I looked it up on the internet and we went to the shopping spree for Huntsman at a place called... Heirs gave me his item. What? You were on... Well, I was on the team, but I wasn't here. You weren't here?

I don't think so. Yeah, you were in fucking Cali like a mor... Yeah, we want to talk... You stayed in Cali for champs. We want to talk about fucking moving. And you were bullshit and saying, oh, COVID... We might have won champs if you came to Texas.

You're sick bastard. Could have... You could have... Or... Or could have played... I just forgot about that. Now I'm on your ass. This is the stupid.

This is difficult set trying to point the finger back at me. You pointed at me first. I didn't point shit. He did. You're right. He did. Really? We should gang up on him.

Yeah. Fucker. Yeah, tell me something. With your shitty 3B3 fucking. Hey. Yeah. Watch your fucking mouth. And you shut up.

Your trophy sucks. You're not going to talk shit about my shit. Wait, who are you playing with and against? He was you can fucking know. It was, first of all, it was the river city. River City. Yeah, pull it out. The YMCA flag.

It was the river city's finest. River. 3B3, hardcore. Call 34 tournament Hardcore Bring it up, Matt It's on my channel There it is

Were you like this When you won? It was a hardcore Look at the Look at the title though December 18 2018 What were you doing in 2018?

2018 I was an eighth grade Huh That's four years ago Oh no 2008 2008 Holy fuck

Yeah what the fuck Jesus Here let me show Seth He hasn't seen This 2008 How I was in eighth grade

You were in eighth grade Or seven the grade How old were you When you won this 28. Your age. So you can still play under 28. You can still win.

At 28. You can still win. You still win. Yeah. I will say... Wait, you can definitely still win at an older age. By the way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely still win. Carrigan just won at 31. Yeah, we won this year. And then obviously some unfortunate should happen that people just decide to completely go. You know what I think of real? Don't worry about them.

That's all right. Those who care don't matter and those who matter don't care. And those who mine don't matter. That's where you go there. Sorry. What was your? Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Hmm.

Socrates. Who matter don't mind. Those who mind don't matter. Those who matter don't mind. Yeah. It's saying like, don't take, don't take criticism for someone you wouldn't take advice. That's been one of my creeds lately. I knew that I was going to stick with you and I said it too.

Yeah, I've been just fucking ignoring people. I've been telling you this. Like, why do you even go on Twitter after a loss? You know what I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to say something. I don't know why I do it. I'm going to teach you something.

It's like I have some sort of humiliation kink. Yeah, that's like I want to be fucking roasted. That I believe. He's got a swing and shit. I have some like some weird fucking like just step on my balls kank. Something. Or my performance. Just step on my, just step right on my nutsack.

That's what people do. Like you can have a good series and still get roasted. It's like the fuck is going on. The worst is when you get roasted and you didn't even play. Hey, you just happen to be associated with the team. You know what I mean? Poor me. It's for you.

I don't know why. No, bullshit. This is what I do. I have my phone and my Twitter app is up here. And every time I open it, I go directly. My thumb naturally goes. So what I do is I move my app three pages to the right and I never go to. I don't know what the fuck's over here.

I love Twitter. Uber Expedia, Home Away, Grubbubbub, guidebook. What the fuck is guidebook? That's where Twitter goes. When someone's talking shit or something's. bad happening with Opin. No, I just need to not get on Twitter aftermatches. Yeah.

Yeah, you love it. Yeah. You do you have humiliating. I sit there and scroll it. Let me ask you this. And I'm like, what the fuck? And squirm. Yeah, do they're in scrolling?

Does Junior move around when you read some of that? No. Yeah, so maybe you don't. Definitely has before. You're like, yo, so you went to the Optic Party formal and you used, you guys stay back. I couldn't go. Shout out private selection.

I need to get my swag up. Okay, so yeah, private selection. We have a partnership with them. Look, I have a, yeah, the organization will pay for it. A spree? Yeah. We're going to do, what's it called? A makeover for Seth?

A Seth money maker. Go, let's run that. Yeah? Yeah. Get him like a fade. Give me some fresh-ass cut. Give me some new style. Yeah, I'm, okay.

Obviously. Nick, you're fresh, always, so don't worry about it. Something like that. Anyway, so yeah. We partnered with them. Look, they started as an apparel store. All of a sudden, they started making videos. And they go, bro, they, they're like blowing up, man, like fucking legit, killing it.

They're one of my, one of my horses that I'm betting on for the next three years. Are they like one of the top dogs that like sneaker con and shit? They are the top dog as sneakers. Sneaker Khan puts them on all of their ad, like legit. They are. Like, sneaker con. Shout out Sneaker Khan too. Brian, fucking awesome, awesome, a thing.

Awesome event. They're going to be in Dallas in a couple of, in a couple of, in a couple of, in a couple a couple of weeks, so we'll go and check out the floor. That's the group. Everyone's going. We're all taking a trip to SneakerCon Dallas whenever it happens. We're not waiting in line, though, SneakerCon. Actually, I might win in line so I could get a trophy from the PCH boys, a rare pair award or early bird. I don't have any early birds. Anyway, super happy about that partnership. Yeah, the way that they've gone about their YouTube videos is fucking insane.

Everything came so naturally to them. Go to videos and then, yeah, like scroll through them. A lot of them are shorts, but they were like Fat Joe. Fat Joe was just there last week. Bro, I'm telling you, they are fucking doing everything right. If there's a channel that you want to study as to what to do, like these guys just started like two years ago doing this thing. And they've taken over, period. Yeah, they're hustlers.

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What do you mean by that? So like, obviously, like they're doing everything right. But they need help in maybe closing a sponsorship. It's going to help them get to another thing quicker. So the last thing that you want to do is you want to go in there and be like, this is how Optic did it. And then they're thinking like Optic instead of thinking like private selection. We don't know the sneaker streetwear culture the way that they do.

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Use the code optic to get a four-week trial plus free postage and a digital scale. Thank you for listening. Back to the podcast. You know, you were talking about, bro, what the, I'm not roasting anyone. I just want to know what the fuck happened. Shout out to Biffle. Shout out to Aiden, who beat. Who the fuck did they beat?

Zinny, Zinny, God damn it! How do fuck? This is my thing. I will say this. When you're talking about the amount of inputs that you have from a slide cancel perspective, Matt and I were talking about Aiden and how he played Fortnite and put Walsop. That kid's turn. Yeah, no.

That is insane. Shout out to fucking Aiden. Well, Aiden came from radar on one V-ones, no? I don't know. I'm pretty sure he did. That's like what he played when he was. started playing. Like I played TDM on game battles.

He played radar on 1v1s. Yeah. Radar on 1v1, by the way, oh my God. I had so many people. I had to tweet it yesterday because like, radar on 1v1 shows no skill in call duty. You're wallbanging with FMJ.

You're pre-firing half the time. It doesn't show gun skill. Like, I mean, it does, but it does not. Gun skill is when you don't know someone's there and you have to react. to them being there and you snap onto them. Knowing where someone's at with radar on and pre-firing until they fucking slide out,

1V-1s are literally whoever has more patience will win most of the time. Whoever's trying harder. Whoever's trying harder, whoever has more patience, 1V1 radar is like the worst show of skill. And this is why I hate this whole CDL versus warzone thing because they're both completely separate fucking skill sets. They're not even remotely close.

There's no way to compare them. The only way to compare them is when the new game drops is 4B4 HPs like a week into the game. And even then it's not the same because we're like we're practicing it every day. They're not. It's like it's such a Yeah. The sponsor

obviously they don't get to learn it though the way that you guys get to learn it. Yeah. It was Warzone, war zone CDL is CDL. There are different things like they're different skill sets. They're not the same. You're playing in a fucking BR. We're playing in a 44 arena style. Like how are we comparing these things? Also,

the CDL and the whole entire CDL community, I'm not including myself in this, but they didn't choose those champions. Also, also, I got another fucking thing. People say, people compare, I got a lot of get off my chest because I don't tweet, but people say when they bring up CDL,

they're like, scump won the 1v1. Like, yeah, that was dope, but due to how much luck you have to have during that fucking 25-minute game to not get shot in the back, to not get killed by guys. in a bush. Yeah.

And you did it with no riot shield. The only way, the only thing that I'll tip myself about that is, is that I played Cold War for nine months before that.

I wasn't playing war zone. That's the only thing that I'll tip. But like, the 1V1, like, yeah, it was fucking dope. But like, that's also a really bad sample size.

Well, it's a bad thing when people are like CDL wins because Scump won that. It's like, it's a really bad way to like... Two different things. It's such a pointless argument because like neither party is going to convince the other party of what they're trying to say. They're just going to keep running in circles and circles and circles until it just dies down and everyone goes back to playing the respective things when the new game comes out.

So it's just like point of. And I mean this when I say it. I've never seen any content creator or like the amount of content creators from Warzone that actively without trolling like that they mean it that they say that they're better than CDL pros is like almost none. That actually happens though. No. No one's not serious. Well, they're trolling. Yeah.

They're trolling. Just, you know, but I, so every CDL pro that's, that they got a little hurt or their ego was a little bruised on this shit. Like, relax. It's just a whole about being too. They were fucking kidding. And unfortunately for y'all, they proved that they could keep up. See, no, they didn't. One V1 radars are dog shit.

But they still kept up. Somebody won. Somebody won. If Zini would have won, people would have been like, oh, yeah, it's expected. No, they're just not good. They're not a good testing skill. Any cod pro would tell you that. It's a one-frey-on radar. If you and I sit here and play a game of fucking rock paper scissors,

we're playing on the same platform, playing the same game, that wasn't war zone and that wasn't CDL. That just, they... It doesn't matter. It's such a bad show of skill. For 1V-1s, in a bucket. You have two codros both highly decorated, telling you otherwise. You're in the sandwich right now, chip.

You're in a chip sandwich. You're in like a 60-chip sandwich right now. As a champion, as a call-of-duty champion, guys. He's got a shield. Protect me. Dude. I'm just playing devil's advocate. It's a horrible show of skill.

Yeah, I'll say this too, though. It's fun. There's like four war, you can put four warzone pro. I don't know what the fuck a war zone pro is, first of all, okay? Like, I just want to stop saying that. Like, warzone players are all caught. Everyone's a cop player, right? If you put four of these warzone kids, like Biffle and Aiden in them, and a 44 search

style against like cod pros they might be able to win a map but a hard point that's a different story but like you can't really even do that either because these war zone kids aren't playing hard point like that they don't it's still unfair it's unfair either way so like I said we're just just drop it yeah let's just move on you guys are both tipable so let's just fucking move on both tipable both should continue listen it was good it was good for call duty because there was a conversation happening around call duty after champ so that was good yeah that's not let's not be Let's not insult either side from either side because if Aiden is going to say

if you're going to talk about pros and who makes money, Aiden has made more money than arguably Sib, right? That's such a bad. That's also fucking horrible. What I'm saying is that no one is saying that. Of course, but no one is saying that. What I'm saying is that. That's like saying the players earn now have just as much as us

because we were winning $2,500 when we won tournaments. That's another or another. I get both your points. People's arguments piss me off. I'm not going to lie, because a lot of them just don't make sense. You can't compare earnings now because it's just, there's so many fucking things that you get pissed about.

I don't know. That's all I'm saying. My only argument would be, aren't most of the Warzone pros, CDL kids that couldn't really make it? That's not going to say, too. It's like the- Like, is that a decent argument?

The Tommies, the Rateds, like these guys went from the CDL. Tommy and Rated were both respectively pretty good. No, they were good. They were good. Once they stopped playing comp, Slack was pretty good. They went to Warzone and they were immediately top players.

Merck, yeah, there's a lot of good players. They came from the CDO pro. But to say they were... Tommy number one? What was that? Tommy's number one. Adens number two. Almond S&D Kid.

Hustkers, S&D Kid. Shout out of Huskers. Rated S&DK. Nubes tried to play. It has a thing too. They've all played the cod forever. Did Destroy play search? That's kind of typical, Seth.

You're number 18. Yeah, I'm number 18. One turning. Yeah, Warzone Pro, it's good. Oh, see, that's like the thing, though. It's like, people... When you Google, Google Warzone Pro, right? People talk shit about that for me.

What's a Warzone Pro? But it's such a bad... Oh, yeah, this is good. This is good. Look up Warzone Pro on Google. Such a bad, like, it's just bad. Wait. What was my Google search?

What is the war zone pro? But they're like... Oh, I said list of current Warzone Pros. That's what I typed. Now, you know what really pisses me off, though? when people are like, scump got slammed in the fucking the 2V2 World Series Wars and before that,

it's like, dude, I played Cold War for nine months in a season. Yeah. These guys have been playing Warzone competitively every day. Dude, doesn't, why are you even, who can, you won? It's just, I'm just, I'm just getting shit off my chest.

Oh, wait, no, list of Warzone pros, not current. List of Warzone. Purs. Take up current, yeah. I'm up there. Let's go. The best Warzone players in the world. Let's go.

Let's go, Seth. He's a war zone pro. Who's the here, click on who's the number one war zone, player in war zone? No, down below. It's, people ask, people ask. Who's the best? Is it Aiden? I mean, they're just all really good.

Dude, shout out Aiden. I go back to just like what it takes to build a wall in, in, in Fortnite with a PC, with a keyboard and mouse. And he did with a fucking controller. Yeah, that's very true. That guy's correct, bro. Bro, what the fuck? I don't even know how to lay down a down wall on that. Think about the amount of inputs that it would take to

flip the wall down so you can have a floor. Not that crazy. Now you're talking out your ass because it's not that crazy. Shut up. Not that's accurate. All right. Bring us back, man.

Bring us back. I got a lot of built-up anger. Yeah, those were all your tweets just came out in the last. A lot of built-up fucking anger, man. Yeah. People piss me off. You got to release. I do have to fuck.

I have to start releasing. You feel better now? I have to go back to just run. No. What the fuck? I have to. What the fuck? I have to return to my villain arc.

I agree. I have to. With those glasses, you can't. I must. That would be a villain arc though. Like the nice glasses. I must return to my villain arc. Because I had one for a little bit.

Like at the start of my career, I was a douche. People would talk shit and I would go... You grew up. Yeah, now I hold a lot in. It's probably not good for me. Yeah, you bottle it all up. Until you just explode. You just get on a podcast and fucking explode.

Ha ha ha ha. I'm sick in the head. All right. So the optic party, we didn't go. Nick, how was it? So the optic party just to set the stage. Obviously, the Bolte sisters, Miko, and Minks joined Optic. We knew that they were going to join Optic for a while,

but we wanted to make sure that the announcement was dope and this, that, and the other. And, you know, obviously, like, from the beginning, you know what this was crazy. When I got Optic back, I looked to see who we were going to pick up as an extension of that and they were on my list and Kaylee was also on my list of the Warzone player she was also on my list of like of like women who are going to make it in this industry bigger than her before reaching people's butts and pulling poop out of them though hey it works you know she's she's uh it works oh i think it's fucking hilarious yeah yeah same uh but anyway does not have a filter imagine if we didn't have to have filters bro every i think it's old all the time how my brother's

funny than me and i'm like well he doesn't have a filter yeah i literally have to I have, we have to have filters. But you are funnier. You just have to have a filter. We have to. Imagine if we didn't have to have filters. It would get bad. Jesus.

Some of the funny shit you've ever said, Matt. Me and four more than getting canceled quickly. Matt and Nick Morseau. If they didn't have to have filters, oh my God. That's a podcast I subscribe to. Sometimes I'll say stuff and like look at my phone to make sure I'm like not on a call with someone or like.

Yeah. It's just somehow not being recorded. It was so, yeah. Holy shit, that was evil. It's just a voice note on Twitter You were doing a Twitter space and shit You didn't know it So how was it? Walk us through it

It was fun I mean Yeah here we go Here's some pictures of it Big ass house Damn How many people were there? I think Paige said it was up to like

160 or something A decent amount of people Not gonna lie I was only there for a little bit A friend What the fuck did you do? You know what he did I actually blame Pine Park

Uh oh Because Hey what's your fucking mouth Why did it get you late Is that what you're about Because that's great promotion So Pine Park got you fucking late

Late the ballp You know The medicinal Opportunities that you have with Pine Park is just They're just endless Hey So I brought a friend

We were drinking the whole time Drink Thursday Drink Friday We were on like a Rooftop bar So we pull up the party, we're already kind of gone. You know how I usually do.

Yeah, yeah. And if you're rolling with me, you're hopefully on the same level, or actually hopefully not. But we go there. Someone's got to be an adult. Go there, there's open bar, get some drinks, staying around, talk to everyone. It was still like

sort of just opening up, but there was I guess a decent amount of people there. Walk outside, chilling, hanging out, and then we just see like a pound of Pine Park being rolled. and I'm talking to Blake's brother or Paige's brother Blake

and I don't know She was there He's a man She was like talking to someone And someone passes her a joint And she smokes it And she never smokes And right when I saw it

My friend Oh your friend Oh my friend I was not you're saying page too That's that page on the what? No no no Someone hands my friend the joint She smokes it

She was already drunk And like right when I saw it I knew she didn't smoke I was like you need to chill out Like I knew right away Five minutes into it I see you're sort of like spacing out and I'm like I just know she has the fucking spins right now. And like, so I was like, all right, maybe we can wait this out, get some water, maybe get another drink and I just hope like she gets better with time.

But like 20, 30 minutes later we're still just sitting around. She just like we're sitting outside like by the pool sort of like. What she didn't want to use? Yeah, literally. I was like, God, I know this feeling way too well. I was like, there's no coming back from this. I'm going to have to take her back. And I don't know.

By this time, we were both kind of gone. So I tell them, I'm like, I'm going to take her back to the hotel. And then I'm going to come back. That's a responsible thing to do, though. Yeah, good on you, brother. And then we get in the Uber. It's like, I don't know, 20, 25 minute ride or something. But it's like, it's almost like once you're leaving a club, like everyone's drunk,

everyone had fun. But once you get in that Uber and it's dark and you're on your ride back and everything sets in. and yeah everything sets in like yeah I started feeling like holy shit I'm drunk so by that time we got back to the win check your pockets 10 times yeah dude do I have my oh my god

where's my phone are you like you're like hold on hold on I can't find my phone all right hold on yeah dude I've had some bad ridebacks just like just sitting there like just focusing on not yakking in the Uber I hate those

yeah it was one of those I hate that's the worst get back tuck her in because I'm a gentleman and then I was like you know what this shit's hitting me no we

we shared a bed but yeah it's usually me so I totally understood and I was like I have to okay it happens yeah yeah I was like trust me

trust me I know this feeling you're holding back your hair and her hair you're like but take her back

and once I got back to the hotel I was like I'm fucking gone like you realize he was just as fuck imagining imagining

imagining another 20-five minute back and just having a whole night to go through it. I was like, I don't know if I can do it. And I felt bad about it. I was like texting page. She was like, no, no, no, no worries. And then I wake up at like 4 a.m.

It's like three missed calls from the reads. Like they're still up at 4 a.m. So I guess the party went well. We were only there for a little bit, but it was a dope spot. Yeah. It was fun. The girls got their chains. Yeah, I wasn't there for that.

You were supposed to put the chains on there. It was a long night. You were supposed to do the nighting and you didn't do the night? Well, I didn't know this, but it was a long weekend. It was a fun weekend, though. It was a binge weekend? Yeah, it was an absolute bender. Should we do it again?

For sure. 100%? Yeah. You coming? You coming, Matt? We need to do it here, though. Getting on a plane to go to a party. We can't have a party.

It just makes me feel weird. We'll go and create content. I know. brother so bad. We'll go and create contents and then while we're there we'll also throw it like a fucking mega party. You can't have a Pine Park bar in Texas. Like I'll go to like a wedding, you know, like something like that. Like that's not as bad

because that's like a party inside of a ceremony, you know what I'm saying? But like just flying to a party just makes me. Yeah. It makes me feel like a D-Gen. Like yeah. Like I'm on the flight like taking, I'm ripping fucking vodka or vodka sprites, whatever. I'm drinking on the way to the plane. On the way to the plane.

I'm drinking at the party. I wake up hungover. I got to get a bloody Mary the next morning. Fly back. It's just a D-Gen like two days. I'm down. Yeah. Not.

Well, mine was like a four-day. I went a day early because everyone else flew out Friday. But I was like, I'm not landing Friday like evening, putting my shit in, then immediately coming down, going to a party, getting drunk, waking up the next morning, catching a flight. Yeah, no way. It just didn't sound attractive to me. There's no way I can do that. So I went third.

day, then Paige convinced me to stay a day after hang out with the Reeds. Shout out to Reeds. Shout out to the Reeds. Because knowing me, I'm missing that flight the next day. If we have an optic party, I am getting loose. Like, I am missing that flight. A hundred percent.

You're in the ball pit? I'm in the fucking ball pit. It's waking up at 4.30 in the morning. Oh, bad. It was good. I wish I would have been there. I'm super down for another Texas party.

All right. Because that was a lot of fun. Page, put it in the books, please. She's not listening. The next Texas party. Hitch, did you have a good time at the party? He said, yeah, hell yeah. Pink fucking...

Swagged out again. Swagged out again. Andrew Tate got banned from the internet. Are you sad? I knew it. Very upset. You know what was a great video? It was like Andrew Tate's final message.

It was like Andrew Tate's final message. Did any of you see it? No. No. Dude, how am I, I'm like the only, dude, you're such a Tate fan. I am a fan, but it's like I almost don't want to say I'm a fan, because people are going to see this podcast here that I'm a fan and just talk shit.

I shouldn't tell them that you're on episode number 111 of their little YouTube series. I haven't seen 130 of their vlogs. Let me ask you this, right? So there's the, what do you call your fans? The scump army? What are they called? The scum scribers. The scum scribers.

I mean, that's what I used. You have the hexicans. You have the form skins. What? You have the, the carrots. for maniac? What are the tater? Are the taters called the tater tots?

Who's taters? The Andrew Tatertots? No, I don't. That's the name of their fancline. They're the, is that where this was going? What is his? I think he does have like a little army. Top G's?

I don't know. I think they're called something. Little G's. Bottom G's. See, I did not watch anything. I've just been like off the internet. I've been trying to like savor my, off time. So I've just been off

the internet. So I've really, I've missed this like and Kate. The king's been poolside this whole time. I haven't seen like any of it. He took over like he took over like no one has ever taken over before. I've seen clips. I've seen clips of it like on TikTok but like I have not seen like anything. Don't do you agree. Do you agree? Do I agree with the shit that he's saying? I was kidding. Absolutely not. Cut cut the knot. Cut the knot. Absolutely. Some of the shit that Some of the shit that I've seen him say is like, dude, it's bad.

I mean, I'm sure he has some things that make sense. I'm not saying I disagree with everything he's saying. I don't think you've even know. The sentiment that he provides it in is like what turns you off. People will bring up. It's like super alpha male, like macho. And it's like, I'm not like that. The things I like about him are like people bring up the way he talks about women and stuff.

And I'm like, that's not why I like him. But they'll like talk shit to me. that I like him, but I'm not liking him for his women. Like random fucking people on Twitter. Because he reposted. Just hear me like saying I'm a fan or like repost it. I'll see some Instagram messages like, are you fucking serious? I had a lot of respect for you, Maynack.

And you're watching this misogynist. I'm like, dude, this is like, that's not why I watch him. I watch him for like other reasons. Because whatever, his body, his tattoos. Just the way he talks about how. Dude, I don't want to get into it. He definitely speaks his mind. Yeah, yeah, of course.

Or maybe it's not even him speaking his mind. You might just be fucking making his ideals up. Yeah, but how do you ban somebody from the internet that other people are posting his shit, right? It's like, you don't really understand that. It's like, think about, like, you haven't uploaded videos to your own channel yet you live on the internet no matter how it happens, whether it's on this channel or on the news channels and on the clip fucking loser channels. I'm going to take their Anyway

Speak your mind Speak your mind Cut that Well no I'm just saying like You can't call yourself a content creator When all you're doing is clipping other people's fucking content That's facts

Period That is facts Okay I've always I've always felt the same I just I just don't like I mean I'm not

Never mind I'm not gonna go down this route But Let's just look We understand Clip this and use it again Yeah Scum talks about my channel.

Hex called me a loser. It's not anyone in specific. It's more so like just that, that genre. Because I don't like drama. I just don't like drama. And those channels are literally revolved around drama most of the time. And I just don't like that. And I just don't like that because I fucking hate being in drama.

I hate it. Drama itself, I hate it. I just like to chill. I did agree with Nate Schott on that point. Like he likes to get home and close his eyes or go to sleep and close his eyes and I think about who's talking shit about him, who's after him and that. It is good to have peace of mind.

What was Drake say? Waking up about public statements of private life? Mm-hmm. Yeah, bars. What's that in? Do not disturb? I don't know. He's saying, I don't know, but he knows.

He's saying, I don't know. He knows. He's still talking about my life is like. Can't describe what my life is like when she asks about it. No. And what's the line before that? Waking up about private statements about my private life. Something like that.

Public statements about my private life. I just hate that. because I don't, I try to, I try to stay as far away from drama as I can. And when drama goes out of its way to try to like find you, it's fucking annoying. Bro, it is insane. Some of the titles that I've seen in the last couple of fucking weeks when the whole roster shit was going down, I'm like, oh my fucking God. That is not what was said in the fucking video at all. You know who's actually taken over the internet?

I'm scrolling through TikTok and I just see Team Summertime pop up. And I see like 600K likes on the video. I'm like, what the fuck? And I click on their channel. You know what's crazy is they're reacting to other people's content. Yeah. And they're stealing it. So what I was.

Davis is fist pumping in the background. So, you know, I mean, I don't know if you'll ever come back to it. I mean, fuck, man. Like, what do you do at that point? It was a good. You should watch his final message. Okay. Play it.

No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, it's like an hour and a half long. Is it? Yeah. And he's so good at talking. You love him. He never fucks up.

Seth's also good talking. How come you're not inspired by Seth? I mean, I just don't think I have what it takes. Not only that, but like you see where he lives. You've seen, well, I mean, I was going to say what he drives and dresses. I mean, yeah, you're, you're dumb. If he wants to, if he wants to get. No, you're not.

But you know what? You're not. You're not all the way. But, you know, you hands. He inspires me in some ways. Or Seth inspires me in some ways. Yeah. Same, man.

You do too, man. Thank you. All right. Just not a lot. That's wholesome. Not a lot of them. I don't like to promote this because I think the green wall does a good job enough in doing this. And I also think that a lot of people put a lot of time into this thing.

But TST content group of the year, which is different than content creators of the year, TST content group of the year. Vote for them. Content creator of the meet. Don't vote for me, but for them. Esports personality of the year. Who's that? Who's eastport personality of the year? They're in a different category.

Your content group, you're a content creator. So you're in different categories. What's e-sports personality? Is that me too? Process e-sports. Nice, Matt. Good way to type that up, dude. Yeah, what fucking few?

God, Matt. And you have a fucking microphone? TST, content group of the year, vote for them. Heck, content creator of the year. Don't worry about it. Focus all your time in making TST. When? Esports personality of the year, who the fuck knows?

Content creator of the year I don't know who that is either Process eavesdrop Eastrop Can we get some Who's up for Eastport's personality of the year That you have listed there

Is that me? You got a mic man Yeah I'm trying to find it right now Oh Personality is you Oh that's me Personality of the year Guys

It's true Okay It's true I don't know how I made it in this But it is true I know how I've made it All right What else

Let's go back to the list Oh shit I can't see anything I think Terrick might win that Terrick has to work. I hope Terrick. But vote for Tarek. Shouts out Terek.

Optic Tarek. Cool, dude. Won a championship for the green wall. Shout out to him. Always will be family. So TSTC content group. Here's where I get confused, right? Optic Esports Apparel of the Year.

Who? Who? Who? Who's judging? I want to see what they wear because it's not the same. E-sports apparel of the year? U-Sports apparel a year

TSM 100 thieves, phase, liquid the Leafs G2, Cloud9 Fanatics Us Is that not? What is it? FlyQuest.

FlyQuest. My bad. I apologize. I am sorry. The Leafs. Yeah. Come on. I'm sorry.

You knew that wasn't their name, bro. But I didn't know that was the rate. I know I've heard of FlyQuest. I've heard of FlyQuest. Yeah, but I didn't see that. That logo does not. That logo reminds me of. fucking Pied Piper for some reason.

From Silicon Valley. I don't know why. And then vitality. See? Like I don't even have to, you don't have to scroll over that. I know what it is. So apparel the year, like I don't even know how you compare. Like it's different things.

You can't compare us to anyone. I'll tell you that much. No. God damn it. Anyway, what else is there, Matt? What else are we? So vote for process. Vote for TST.

Vote for team of the year. Okay? And that's it. Period. Amen. Creative team of the year, no one can compete. So don't even vote for us. We don't want to be up in there.

No one can compete. Fuck? It's true. I mean, other orcs make good shit. Yeah, but they can't compete. My brain is just better. You got an ego and shit? Have you seen those TikToks?

What? I'm better. Yeah. They're so fucking stupid. He's like, yeah. Eastport's personality of the year. I don't even know what that means.

TikTok is a TikTok. I need to delete that shit because that shit, dude, I can scroll out. I'm stronger. I'm smarter. I'm better. Anyway, that's going to do it for this episode of the Optic Podcast. Podcast episode number 89.

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