OpTic Podcast - SCUMP & FORMAL VS WARZONE PRO PLAYERS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 193

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yes. All these losers. Yes. And I don't care who you are. All these losers landed away from them because they were scared to fight them when they were in like last place. If you have no chance of winning, go stop the team from winning. What's wrong? Like it's common sense.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I heard I heard players. Let me ask you this. They're like, oh my God, it's so. Run. Are you serious, dude? If I was in last, I would have put on a munitions box and Semtexas. And I would have just been fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Podcast episode 193. Here with myself, Hector Rodriguez, Nick Maniac 2009 Kershner, and of course. Nick Maniac 2009 Kershner? Why? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Not that I like it. It's a good year. I like that year. It's got a ring to it. It's got a ring to it. Oh, imagine if I got it, if I did pull one out.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I mean, where's Shawston with your ring? It's what I want to know. Well, Doug, well, I don't know how that whole thing happened. had a documentary made to get a ring. I need a documentary.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Wait, Doug. For you to get what? Atlanta 2018 Rise. Get what? I ring. Was that a world champs? My major win. My major win.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I always have a documentary made for it. Just go make a trophy. Imagine. Go to a little trophy shop. That would be so fun. Wait, do you have your MVP trophy? Yeah, it's a New Jersey. Like, you just actually do have fucking old footage from back then.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And like, we sat down with a producer and you like talked. about the old moments and like they edited it correctly and just a just come out with a documentary about one team's one major a major win the most meaningful major you well to be fair heard of wait guess the team wait can we all take
Starting point is 00:01:51 take turns guessing the team my team yeah yeah guess hecker's not gonna get it I'm not gonna get it oh god I have no idea maybe you that's probably it Seth would get it maybe I think Luni yep wow endless Yeah, it was really good team. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:06 You don't want a way on the list. Gunless Tejeech? Yeah. Oh my God, what the fuck? Yeah. Did you make that up? No. I just guess.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Well, so you did make it up. Oh, yeah. Well, I just... Got him. Yeah, I guess. Got him. Yeah, I don't know. What you're asking?
Starting point is 00:02:23 A big Colin and Samir fan? Oh, yeah. It's my only blue hat. I fuck with him a lot. Oh, yeah. It should be matching and shit these days. Finally, finally got out of that shit
Starting point is 00:02:34 where you were those fucking gross ass Air Max 90 Browns with everything I mean I still have them Back back Back in the I didn't make me Dude I bought them
Starting point is 00:02:45 Because they were so ugly I didn't realize like two years later I You know what shoes he's talking about right From the Scuff house I were they Let me like Google them Krem tweeted them out
Starting point is 00:02:54 I know you have These are ugly Wasn't that like some wallabies or something No no Their Air Max is They're They're uh Chill with the Blastraman Walapies
Starting point is 00:03:03 Uh Matt Hit on the drop down and see how much they're going for. What? What size are you? You got to clean them. What size are you? 11.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Exactly. It's like, I had two pairs of these. I don't give a fuck. Wait, yes. They're going for a, I'm never wearing.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Dude, they're busted now. Dude, it doesn't matter. They're still. You got the box? I don't know. Listen,
Starting point is 00:03:28 they're not bad shoes, but the way you wore them. God, some of the shit you used to wear. Dude. I wish there was just like a, a photo. gallery. Well, he could have.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He could have. I wasn't wearing I wasn't wearing like my hair of pants back in the day. I mean, all of us to be. I don't even think Hacks was fresh. Just 1993. I saw some, I've seen some old footage of me and I'm just like, what the
Starting point is 00:03:57 fuck? Mike, Mike was always well put together, I feel like. Oh, nah. You don't think so? Well, I mean, he'd have black shorts, black shirt. Yeah, maybe it was just like Jim shit. Somehow that out did us. Let me ask you, do you think that that's the case because he bought, he had like several boots that he would wear with jeans? He looked well put together because
Starting point is 00:04:18 I feel like really went out. I hit the jeans with the boots and his stupid bike. What's stupid bike? Which whenever we went out. Because God damn. Whenever we went out who looked the best, who dressed the best? Probably me.
Starting point is 00:04:34 No. Definitely not sad. Say that with your fucking chest. Definitely not. Probably me. Probably me. Nick would just look at whatever 90s rapper he liked and just dressed like that. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's not true. That's not true. But I was wearing like Walmart. Yo, here's the question. Did he or did he not do it? He did it. Yeah. First topic of the day.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Did he did it? A thousand. People are deleting tweets. Usher deleted all of his tweets. And then he came on and said, I got hacked. I got hacked. Like what? Yeah, it's like Shannon short.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It's like, Shat and Shard. That's like. It's my Michelle. Let me guess. Lizard Squad got you. No offense. Janet Sharp was doing that. Don't say Lizard Squad.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Those guys were terrified. Don't say their name three times. Those guys were- Those guys were- If you say they were in Christmas. They fucking come back and re-cabbing. You remember back that? I swear to go on the way here, I was thinking about it in the car,
Starting point is 00:05:27 just like the Twitter Abbeys. Who was it? It was clerk. He had the avie. But who was the Abby? It was like the scary-looking white dude, right? No. Yeah, but it's the actor.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Whatever. talking? I don't know his name. No, that was Avalanche. Oh, that was Avalanche. But I remember you to see that If I used to see that, like, that guy tweet, I wouldn't send out a tweet. Like, if I was going to go tweet
Starting point is 00:05:51 something and I saw his tweet, I wouldn't tweet out because I wouldn't want to, my presence known. Cetus, like, would hide. For real? Yeah. You don't understand. You used to be an Xbox party closed and he'd join. He'd be like, how'd you get in here and hit you off? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Who would Lizard squad like terrorize? Everyone. They took down PlayStation. Everyone for a month. Would they fuck with gamers to? They took down all of PlayStation. Have you ever heard of PlayStation from Sony? Have you ever heard of PlayStation Network?
Starting point is 00:06:20 They swatted my school. PSN? All right. I get it. I just, we just trying to make sure. Yes. I know they was about that life.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But I'm wondering if they like, fuck we're like. Because back in the Halo days, I mean, it wasn't Lizard Squad, but there was like a few select people that just got fucking. me for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:40 From like hackers and shit. These guys were sick. They used to call my house phone and talk to my mom and they put me on it. It's one of them. You're a fucking sicko. They swatted my school. The FBI was questioning me because they thought I knew who did it
Starting point is 00:06:54 and I was like, I promise you, I don't know who did it. And if I did. You're like, so you. Were you? Yeah. They called your fucking house and your mom. They called my house and my mom be like, Anthony, it's for you.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And I'd be like, hello? It'd be one of them. What would they say? What would they say? Nothing. Just like, they would just fuck with you. They would just breathe on the phone like the Zodiac killer. No, no, they would just screw with you.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But the school thing was crazy because like it was mid-test. The whole school evacuated and they just see the cops talking to you. And they're like questioning me because they think I did it or that I know who did it. I'm like, I know who did it? Diddy did it? Damn. That's who did it. That's the.
Starting point is 00:07:30 All these clips are now coming out about like the shit Diddy used to say. He used to call his party the freakoffs and stuff. I know that motherfuckers. People... Gotta watch what I say. No, I mean, yeah. He would have like week-long parties where you had to put your phone up
Starting point is 00:07:46 and then like whenever you got your phone back, he would like give you an IV in order to get all the drugs out of your system and shit. Like before you got your phone back? At first when people were just coming at, coming at his like freakoffs, it's like, yeah, I get a whole bunch of hose over. Yeah, I have a party.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Everyone's naked, probably banging and shit. I'm like, are people really mad at that? Like, that is what happens. No, but then I start hearing his bodyguard Start saying shit like, yeah, they would put like roofies and ecstasy Inside the like cranberry juice or whatever girls like mix their drinks with Because they're like all the girls would always have like mixed drinks and shit So they would put it in the they're putting
Starting point is 00:08:27 Ecstasy and roofies in the fucking fruit punch I'm like Jesus That's what that's shit starts getting bad Wasn't he wasn't he doing that to doge though? Yeah he was he was Your orientation was doing it to Justin Bieber. Yeah, that's fucked up. That's the newest.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But didn't, was it Justin Bieber? Yeah, it was Justin Bieber that was like, or was it Usher? One of them, or maybe both of them were 13 living with Diddy. Yeah. 13 years old. Well, I know Usher was. Maybe Usher. Beaver's like mentor.
Starting point is 00:08:57 No, what happened is that what happens that Diddy couldn't get to Beaver, so he got Usher to get to Beaver and then he got to Beaver eventually. And then there was like. If it comes out that this dude was like, that something happened to Bieber like man I like that motherfucker should be fucking tortured
Starting point is 00:09:13 and then fucking killed Usher and Bieber like what the fuck no that's that's fucking that's like that's a demon 30 years of greatness at first I thought it was just like
Starting point is 00:09:22 online kind of bullshit I'm like like imagine you're a Bieber you wake up in the world as saying did he fucked you and you're just like what the fuck that never happened but but like
Starting point is 00:09:33 well you don't know that I thought that at first I was like motherfuckers are throwing Justin Bieber's name in here and It's like, what if none of that ever happened? And you're just like, you're literally like, you're literally like, you really do never know.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Hollywood just crazy. And like, I used to like, he were like, just like bullshit. And I'd be like, that probably never happened. Or like, they're just making shit up. But like, then you actually hear stories like this. And Bieber I feel bad for her because that kid was a fucking mega star. Like he was like 13 when he was, he was like 12, 13. He's the biggest star in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And people are just taking advantage of war. I think she, I think Bieber. mom let him live with some I read it and listen I I gotta tell you something who's with Diddy for like 48 hours unsupervised I think is what you're talking about yeah there's a there's like video of him with Diddy where he's like kind of out of it and like drunk and I don't know yeah fucking right I think he was like 18 there's not a man there if I have a kid there is not another man in the world if my kid's Justin Bieber like what the fuck I would never I would never.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It's just not something that you do, right? Like, if you're, sleepovers were never allowed at my, like I was never part of any sleepovers. I mean, how old was he though? Was he 18? Why did, why did Usher live with Diddy when he was 13?
Starting point is 00:10:50 It was Usher that I'm talking about. Hitmaker, alleged it was LA Reeds. LA Reads idea to have and live with the R&B Center lifestyle when asked if Diddy's place was filled with chicks and orgying, not stop by Stern. Usher replies,
Starting point is 00:11:05 no, not really. I got a chance to see something. I did see some of that interview though. I got a chance to see some things though. Yeah, he did say he said he like insinuated a lot. He was like I learned a lot while I live there. Like I got a chance to see something. You're kind of like trying to read his like facial features.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And then he was like and then Howard Stern goes, now that you have a kid, would you ever let him live with Diddy for a month? And he goes, hell no. Hell no. It's crazy. It's just you don't do that. I mean, if somebody out there does that stop. doing it. I mean, do what, drugging people? Yeah, that. No, yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:11:40 if you have a kid, if you have a kid, that's like a child, it's like a child. No, if you just have a child. If you have a child, don't let them live with a stranger for 48 to, 48 hours, to a year, a month. That's insane. I mean, I think that now that
Starting point is 00:11:56 people know what's up and that there's fucking sickles out there, like, you know what's fucked up is that my feed is filled with this dude, uh, or big brother who Big Brother caught Predator trying to sex his little brother Or some shit
Starting point is 00:12:10 And then you see him beat up on the dude And then another It's just kind of sad Like Like like Lauren Petos And then just peat him up And then just go on
Starting point is 00:12:22 They peed him up what? Beat him up Beat them up I feel like over the And just move on with your life And I feel like I've heard There's like a shit ton of like hidden pedophiles out there I've heard that for like
Starting point is 00:12:31 Hidden? There's a I've heard that for like 10 years But I've never really like believed it until this year. It's like maybe I just like there's, I just never thought it was like like I don't know. I never really thought it was like
Starting point is 00:12:44 I thought it was way more rare. There's a website like sex offenders I guess and I never went on it but I seen like screenshots on Twitter and people in their neighborhoods they're just surrounded by sex offenders. I've never thought to like look up for sex offenders in my area but then I've seen photos of people like this is my neighborhood and it just like what the fuck? Let's do that right now. Let's run that shit right now. Wait, what if there's just a wait.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Are we just doing it from here? I mean, I don't know. Matt, maybe don't do that. I mean, I don't know. I mean, it is run that shit. Just on this. Just do it. Just don't put it on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:16 How they did they did Drake's house? How the fuck did we even get here? We're not talking about Diddy no more. Well, I want to say one thing about that. Diddy's ex-wife died. I forget her name. A pneumonia? What?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Diddy's ex-wife died of pneumonia. People already thought it was like sketchy and stuff. And before she passed away. Well, apparently their whole divorce and how she might have died is she found tapes of Diddy. I think her words were like, she found tapes of Diddy performing sexual acts with an 18 year old pop star who later became a household name or something. That's like a woman. Oh. We're saying too much, man.
Starting point is 00:13:57 But what are saying? We're saying too much. Yeah, I think I think we stop, right? Wait. Really? Did you read a TV? have much. She wrote, she wrote, she wrote, she wrote, she wrote in her diary and, like, practically wrote a book and then died. It's coming out. And now it's coming, like, her friends, like,
Starting point is 00:14:16 went, found it. And now they're putting out her book. And I think, like, the first page or something said something about, like, you should fear P. Diddy or something like that. Like, it was like, he's, he's in the whole book's going on. He's in the list of arrested people at the FBI now. I guarantee P. Diddy's a piece of shit. Bro, you see. Dude, since 1997. I think he's always been a piece of shit. Is he, freaky piece of shit?
Starting point is 00:14:39 He's going to tell all. Like is, are we going to get from P. Diddy what we didn't get from. He's going to die. What's the guy who died? Epstein? Epstein.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Well, that's, well, that's, I don't think there's going to be anything like a deal cut for P.D. There's not going to be like, okay, we'll let you out in 30 years
Starting point is 00:14:56 if you tell us this. They might say, hey, we won't put you on the death. We won't put you to death if you tell shit. Nope. They shouldn't even give them a choice.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Where do you get? arrested like is the death penalty new york right i don't know there's certain states i don't know that's for sure certain states where you can't get interesting did you see salium getting a fight who you see salium's fight now show them salium's fight real quick seliums yeah no i saw
Starting point is 00:15:19 selium got into a fist fight yeah look are you phase hoodie and all look oh shit oh that's not no but it looks it looks exactly like him he's got a phase hoodie on
Starting point is 00:15:38 Same hair. This is my entire feed. Yo, all day. Me all day. Just negativity. Negativity. Oh, dude, I did not.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I did not. I did not. There's a reason why I'm not on this app no more. And it sucks that I have to say it because it was such a big part of like, I used to love going on there to hear all this shit. All I get is fights. And somebody like me is just going to watch 30 minutes worth of fights because that's what I do. It was the best app of all time.
Starting point is 00:16:05 You see what they're doing now? The block feature? Yeah. I don't, I mean, I can see why it's... I heard that it can actually be done. Yeah, well, because like Google and... Something. Dude, it makes you have a block.
Starting point is 00:16:16 If you block me and I even go on fucking internet explorer and type Twitter or X.com forward slash methods z, I can see it without logging in. That's like an extra layer. They took that away too. No, but that's like an extra layer, though. What I'm saying is someone had a good reply to this. It's like, let's say you have someone who's like...
Starting point is 00:16:37 Stopping. on you just to like give you shit or a maniac hater or a methods hater. If they're able to constantly see your stuff, that like keeps them involved. If you block them, most of the time they're going to move on to someone else or just move on. And now that negates that where it's like they're still going to see maniac's tweets. And now they'll go to somewhere else and like it just. They have to find. There's weirdos, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Their cancer selves has to go find another host to live off of. kids are sick man i was getting um we did a flycast with shotsie remember the last podcast me you and hitch i was like talking about i was like man i think i i didn't let shotsie like talk enough and i was like sitting there saying just like the rest of the day i was like overthinking that podcast then the podcast drops and i look at the comments like it's only been out for like an hour shut up maniacs are just like maniac shut the fuck up maniac's a horrible host maynac needs to get off this fucking podcast. You guys break that fourth wall too much.
Starting point is 00:17:39 What you mean? Like you guys talk about all that instead of just talking about that. You know what I mean? You think that that's why they talk shit to Nick? Well, I'm wondering because I mentioned it on the optic pod first. Yeah. And I was like, I think I did like I was talking too much. I feel like I could have did better like I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So I feel like the listeners already had that in their brain. So the second that came out, they were just ready. to say something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what you get. And I was like, I wonder if they would have said some shit like that if I didn't mention it. No. But to be fair, I mean, I kind of had a point.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I went on a, whatever, man. Yesterday, Monday, like, Jude asked me for help in the morning. And I'm like, I don't have a call until like 11. I'm like, yeah, I'll stay home and and help out. I'll let the people in to do whatever it is. They got the fucking sprinkler, had a fucking whatever. I'm like, I'm just going to stream real quick and show them my lonely island that I have. right just to do it and I hopped on and then it just happened that I had just had my brother-in-law pull out a bunch of shit from my personal storage and I had all the jerseys that we had in the land center at the at 60-50 on top and I took down I got all those jerseys I got all the canvases and I was just showing them off um and I just went on a yap session for literally two hours I was just talking and I remember sitting there thinking I'm like they don't like when they hear nature talk non-trak.
Starting point is 00:19:05 stop. They've never heard me fucking go. I was fucking on one. Just, I literally think that I could do that for 24 hours. No problem. Were you like mid-yap and you were, you just stopped and you're like, God, damn. I kept going. No, no, no. I'm like, damn, I'm good. Let me keep going.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I was watching episode one of the HBO doc of the Sopranos creator. Yeah. And it was like five minutes in. And this, he was like, dude, I was like, I've already shared too much. I regret all the verbiage I already gave you. He goes, if this wasn't about me, I'd walk out right now. It's just great.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah. You should watch that. You should have the Sopranos? Oh, I've never seen the Sopranos. Really? You've seen it? I've watched it a little bit, but I always like, I don't know. I just have a look at my phone and not paying attention.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I just like have like a vivid memory of a kid and like my dad's watching the Sopranos. And back then I didn't know what the Sopranos was or like that didn't mean anything to me. And you watch it now and it was like the first like it was it was the first game of Thrones where every Sunday the whole world or the U.S. is all tuned into it. They had like pizza parties. Italian parties every Sunday for it. I'm like that. I'm like, that's what we did for Game of Thrones,
Starting point is 00:20:10 but this was before social media was like this. So it was just the show and just like newspapers and word of mouth blew the show up. And it's just really cool to see like how that developed back then. Really big and like Jersey and because they live in Jersey in the show, right? Yeah. Like it's a whole like Jersey, New York kind of based. I wonder if that was like back then popular and like families would actually get together
Starting point is 00:20:33 make hella food like literally that like mafia lifestyle of people just coming together making hell of watching the sopranos it's like other than sports you don't get that anymore like people for i vaguely remember people getting i was a little too young but like my parents age type people would would get together to watch the next episode of lost like in the first like four seasons loss was huge lost amazing loss was like dude loss is i love america American Idol. You know, American Idol
Starting point is 00:21:04 I'm gonna tell you what it was fucking fucking Survivor Survivor was a fucking religion for me and Jude
Starting point is 00:21:13 we watched I mean maybe not Jude so much but I definitely every Thursday I would go pick up
Starting point is 00:21:19 hooter swings bring them in time for fucking survival to start and I'd just be eating some 9-1-1s just you just wait for
Starting point is 00:21:28 the commercial sprint to the bathroom last time I did that was Breaking Bad and like 20 what was it like 2012 or something yeah breaking bad would come on me lethal i don't know a formal would join me lethal formal apg we would all like join a Skype call and just watch it together what baller uh breaking bad breaking bad yo uh did you see the did you see the letter that
Starting point is 00:21:51 anthony hopkins wrote to uh Walt or uh what's his name what's his name why am i Brian Brian Cranston, yeah. Did you? Bro, he sent him a letter and said, hey, he's essentially telling him, Brian Cranston, that is some of the best acting that I've ever seen. Not just in a show.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I'm talking about just in the history of acting from fucking Anthony fucking Hopkins. Dear Mr. Cranston, so I wanted to, just finish the marathon of Breaking Bad from episode one. You got to read this on this. It's too long for you to read right now. but he said your performance as Walter White was the best acting I have seen ever that's from Anthony Hopkins
Starting point is 00:22:33 Anthony fucking Hopkins who's Anthony Hopkins What? If you see a picture of him you'll see a picture of him you'll know he was incredible in Westworld season one Anthony Hopkins yeah the show that the show that could have been when when Westworld first came out I thought that was going to be like the next game of Throese what else does he play in yeah Hannibal that's Elector. He is
Starting point is 00:22:57 Hannibal Lecter. He is Yeah, he's Hannibal Lecter but he's so much Fracture is one of my favorite ones
Starting point is 00:23:03 with that right there fracture. Fracture is fucking incredible he plays this like fucking you gotta watch that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It's so fucking he's the man and for him to send that out to his dude. No, he is like he's like
Starting point is 00:23:17 your favorite actor's favorite actor like. He's like the Andre 3,000 of I guess
Starting point is 00:23:23 no he's not what? Shut up. Do you guys have a favorite actor? You know who's gross too? I hate that I'm gonna say it. Yeah, it might be Denzel. I hate that I'm gonna say it.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I don't know if I can, ah, I don't even want to say it. Wait. Stay it, man. Just let it out, man. The comments ain't gonna come after you. Robert De Niro, man. He's like 90 and has like a 22 year old baby mama, man. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Look it up, Matt. You gotta, we got, I can't watch his movies anymore. I don't know how I feel about that. Wait, really? 22 years old is 90? Yeah, man. Wait, you just clap for that. Is it De Niro or is it Pacino?
Starting point is 00:23:53 Well, sorry, Matt, it's Pacino. Take that, mute that, delete that. It's Pacino, right? Pacino, man. Pacino's got a 22-year-old baby missile, yo. What else is there to do when you're 90? If you're 90 and single, what do you go for? Some fucking...
Starting point is 00:24:10 Seventy-year-old? Half your age plus seven. Oger? Some fucking... I don't know, man. You just... You live for pleasure at that point. 83 and 29.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah, that's, dude, I don't know, man. What about, what about, uh, I mean, it's fucking weird. Wait, who's your favorite actor? You have a one? A favorite actor? Yeah, they both said Denzel. He said Denzel? I think it would be Denzel.
Starting point is 00:24:37 If I see a Denzel movie could be something I never heard of before in my life, probably didn't do good at all. I also, but I see Denzel, I'll still give it a chance. I also really like Steve Correll in serious movies. I know that's like like the big short or there's another there was another one he like I like
Starting point is 00:24:59 I really like when comedic actors can like play serious roles Andy Andy Sandberg tried to do it one time in a movie with Rashida Jones and it was not that great dude fucking Will Farrell tried to do that in the sisters brothers really and I just I could not finish watching that Jim Carrey did a scary movie one time
Starting point is 00:25:19 yeah of course well Jim Carrey is a fucking Jim Carrey is just like he's the fuck that guy's the man. Jim Carrey might be the best. There are certain people that I can't see besides like the rock I can't even look at that guy in a movie without thinking that that's the fucking rock. Like I'm like, dude. The rock can't convince me that he's like an assassin or like. Honestly, the rock.
Starting point is 00:25:37 He can't convince me. The rock. No, no, no. He's not falling off. The rock, if you watch Jumanji and you see the Rock's like performance, then go watch Fast Five. He's gotten so much better at acting. When I first watched Fast 5, I was like, this is the worst acting I've literally ever seen. Just out of him.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Literally. Yeah. Not even about the acting. I just can't like. But then he's gotten a lot better. I see the rock. I'm like, that's the rock. I can't think.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It breaks your immersion. Same with Batista for the most part. Batista's actually kind of won me over a little bit with acting. I think he's, I mean, the characters he plays are, I don't know. There's certain people that I'm like, Will Ferrell. I'm like, that's a comedian. Like, it just hard for me to actually like, take some of the actors out of that preconceived There's like a Game of Thrones episode from season eight, obviously.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And it just starts with Ed Shearin. Just Game of Thrones? Yeah, just Ed Shearing, right? Ed Shearin singing. And I'm like, really? Like, it just. That's weird. It took you out.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Shattered my immersion. Same, same, same. I'm like, what the fuck? It is like more importantly, it's like, was that during the shit season? No, I just want to know what. Was this a good season or shit season? This was the shit season. Dude, it was so, it was just.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It was bad. off. That's how you know. It was fucking bad. It should not have happened. It took me out of the Wait, man, I'm going to send you a picture. Hold on. Uh-oh. Twitter, is it Twitter best? My, my, uh,
Starting point is 00:27:03 I was getting a haircut by our friend Turo. And I asked them, I'm like, I'm like, yo, have you ever seen the movie? Don't show our previous. Let me see. Uh, hold of, thank you. That's what I's, look at, look at,
Starting point is 00:27:18 Look at season one through one through seven. Is 4.0 the final? Yeah. Can someone help me get through the first four episodes without being bored of shit? Dude, Dude, you are a fucking watch. If you make it to season.
Starting point is 00:27:33 No, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, let me, not season. Make it to episode six. Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:36 okay, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see,
Starting point is 00:27:38 I see. I just can't live in fairy tale land like most. You live in a real world. You live in fairy tale land. Your day-to-day basis is fairy tale land. Dude, season four of this show is the best season in history. I haven't, dude, since it finished in 2019, I haven't seen it. And I am, I don't know how long I'm waiting, maybe 10 years so that I can rewatch it from the beginning again.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But I cannot fucking wait to go down that journey for the first time ever. Because I didn't, I didn't partake for all those on a regular basis. I also think season or episode two of season eight, you see where it says 7.9. Yes. That should have been agreeing. Because that episode, even though it was basically a throwaway episode where they're just trapped in Winterfell, just waiting for, they're just waiting.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And it's all different shots of Winterfell and they're just talking to each other. Dude, it's such a good episode. It's the only positive. Really? Of all of season. I don't remember. Which one was like the darkest?
Starting point is 00:28:40 Like, it was like, the final? The finale. Was it the finale? What do you mean? It was the darkest episode ever. Oh, that's season, that's episode three. And you couldn't see anything. I was just like,
Starting point is 00:28:49 it's literally an entire... I thought my TV was broken. I was like, this is an expensive television. There's no way it looks like this. Oh my God, I cannot wait to rewatch it. Anybody who didn't like the last season, AIDS doesn't know how to live life, man.
Starting point is 00:29:00 It doesn't feel like 2019. It doesn't feel like it's been five years since the show ended. Dude. No, it doesn't feel like that. COVID literally was like a time warp. Yeah, it was. Four years just gone. It was a reset.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It was a reset in the in the, in the matrix. Subconscious. Dude, I can't. Look at that 4.0. We need to subtract 4. It stands out like a fucking sore thumb. See, I just, I understand that when everyone says something is so good, it's me the one that's wrong this time for once. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 So I, like, I have to just force myself. I need to just like turn my phone off. Dude, you know what you need to do? You know what you need to do? No, no. No, don't do that. Also, to be fair, back then. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Not for this show. There was no TikTok back then. So your brain wasn't as warped as it is. This was the TikTok. TikTok actually fucked everyone's brain up. 100%. Because even now, Vine was out.
Starting point is 00:29:54 No, but Vine wasn't what this. No, but it was not scrolling Vine. I used to be able to watch TV. Like that's my thing. I can watch TV. And now I'm checking my phone.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Even when I'm locked in, I'm like, I never used to do this. I never used to. I have to restart a podcast like, because I'm here because a text will come in. And I'll be like, oh,
Starting point is 00:30:12 oh shit, red dot. I got to chase out of the red dot. Let me open this. And then I'm like, wait a minute. I thought I saw something on And then all of a sudden you're
Starting point is 00:30:19 And you got to Google something Have you been scrolling for a while? Having trouble sleeping? I must get the next one. Murder. Murder. Murder. Cut it up.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So bad. It is not, it is not, it's not good. High school fight. This episode of the podcast is brought to you by Shopify. I've talked about it a few times on recent episodes, but my company better days ahead switch to Shopify. I can't even remember when, but it's kind of a night and day difference. Before then it was a bit unorganized and we were kind of tallying everything by hand.
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Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm still sick, though. Were you winded at any moment there? Remember when I told you? Remember when I told you I'm like, I don't think I'm going to make it? For 10 seconds, I felt that way. That was a hot day, too. It was hot, dude. It was about the hotness of, I'm sorry, the temperature got low on that one spot
Starting point is 00:33:35 and then seeing visually how many stairs there wore and then getting to the top and then seeing that there's more leading up to that bench where I sat, I was. really, really. I did get woozy one time, but... Where'd y'all go? Dude, I'd go back again. Cedar Park. Cedar Park. How far away is that?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Like 40 minutes. So you guys did a hiking stream on Seth's channel. Shout out Mountain Dew. Shout out Mountain Dew, man. I was tuned in for a little bit. Yeah, what was going on? Because I clicked and it was just frozen. Well, like the chat was called.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, we, we, the production team, I was going to say we. The production team did an account for the fact that we were going to be, you were going to be in the mountains maybe in the remote location but i tell you what i'm glad that they did it i'm glad that we did it because we learned a bunch so for the next ones we'll we'll yeah dude i want to get one those back wait can we look up how much those backpacks are yeah we can look at them right now but listen if we would have had a person if we would 2400 if we would have a camera modem modem yeah i thought somebody said it was like 7000 yeah i thought 3 600 oh like a streaming backpack yeah and they have a modem in it is that how it is that what those kids use all the i ral streamers
Starting point is 00:34:41 i don't know what they use for the modes part they have a dedicated it's like crazy dude it's crazy wait hold on can we talk about can we talk about the disaster that was Twitchcon no what happened
Starting point is 00:34:51 wait wait let's let me let me let me just like the kick streamers let me tell you about this hike first sure all right first of all and I said this during I don't know when I said this I had a thought that it would be an important thing to do if you're sponsoring like a gaming team or something that you force
Starting point is 00:35:09 an outdoor activity so where I was going is that that I think that there should be like an outdoor activity that you force like these these gamer dudes to do like this is this is the sort of thing that you want to bring your audience on right the institute to get outdoors in my opinion did the stream like not work at all really no it did it worked good for the first 45 minutes and the last 20 minutes but once we got deep into the woods like lTE just couldn't do it but the backpack is got to be heavy Pam got tired of the backpack within the first point five miles and then I put it on and I didn't take it off until
Starting point is 00:35:42 yeah that had like three bottles of water in it was so heavy like Pam said it was heavy and that's why you gave it to me and then I put it on and I'm like yeah that's yeah it's like six six dude that's what I said huge guy carry the fucking backpack dude you can that's what I said I'm like Pam you're the biggest dude here you carry the backpack and he's like I wonder what I wonder how hard it would be like I wonder how heavy those streamer backpacks are yeah what's in a modem I don't Matt you know modem a camera
Starting point is 00:36:11 and like that's it go look at wait people don't even use those people just use the Samsung phone with the all the IRS streamers use the Samsung phone with the holder and then they there's no way they do that
Starting point is 00:36:27 yeah that's what they all use I think they buy like a phone plan they buy a special phone plan for that and maybe they get No, I don't know how it works My thing is the losing service Every time I've ever tried to go live
Starting point is 00:36:46 Ever I'm telling you it works On my phone It doesn't it drops And they have it set up to where If it does drop from time to time And the stream doesn't crash It just plays like old clips
Starting point is 00:36:56 So that it says be right back And it shows like A montage of old funny moments You know what exists Out there somewhere in the Twitch Ether What? A live stream from Me
Starting point is 00:37:09 at the first ever MLG that we ever attended with here in Dallas at the Hilton Anatole. Is it the Anatole? Anyway, but it is the first one when Natechat first came on the team,
Starting point is 00:37:23 the first time that everybody played like I have that on live stream. MLG Dallas 2013? MLG Dallas, Black O, 2010. Oh. Model Warfare 2. Damn.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Live. Live streaming. Damn. insane. Oh, what? Justin? Justin TV?
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, Justin TV. Damn. What the fuck? Literally me, Nate shot, my brother, fucking nerve. I can't imagine what the quality was like. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:37:50 You can still see the pictures. I think I'm depressed. Um, why? Because I just think back and like I, like that time period is just so awesome in me. Like just like the beginning of like just call duty multiplayer being the hot thing.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yes. Game battles, wagers, tournaments, streams, YouTube. Yeah. man I can only imagine how I can only imagine how good it must have been being that good at Call of Duty
Starting point is 00:38:16 me I was fucking having the blast with my abilities If I was of age it would have felt better Because I was just like this underage Couldn't play a champs Constantly getting dropped When I was really good
Starting point is 00:38:26 That sucked Constantly getting dropped Not me Yeah you guys took over Halo And then you got fucking No but Halo Halo made it cool because I used to walk in and see
Starting point is 00:38:38 a player talking to a Dr. Pepper girl. Then they kicked us out of the venue and we had nothing. And then they gave me the bag of flips chocolate pretzels. I just felt so cool. My brother ate like 19 hot pockets in the span of 30 within a match.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Oh man, that's so gross. No, they were delicious. My number one dream was getting that Dr. Pepper Gaming House. That was my fucking dream. Was those guys coming to my house and decked out by crib? This is the birth
Starting point is 00:39:06 of the green wall, right? This is where we were sitting, click on that one, Matt. Yeah. This is where we were sitting or sitting across from Paul Magna in Envy at the time, I think. And Paul Magna says,
Starting point is 00:39:21 he's like, dude, it's like, yeah, he's like, dude, it's like you guys saw like this fucking green wall. Dude. And then I was like, look at those jerseys. Wait, really? Is that vengeance?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Where? Yeah. Next to Merck? Yeah. Yeah. Do you have one of those jerseys still? Yes. You know who has one?
Starting point is 00:39:37 That shit's fire. That shit is crazy. Everybody was talking shit about those jerseys back then. They're like, what, fucking N-Hardy made those? They shut the fuck up. That's what people want now. That's what people want. Listen, ahead of the fucking game, kid.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Remember that. Jerseys are just basic. Dude, just go there and count how many people were wearing jerseys. Nobody was wearing. We brought the fucking paintball jerseys to the fucking masses, dude. We did. Look at, look at right there. Me and Fis, our first picture ever.
Starting point is 00:40:12 That's the first ever, that's the first time I ever signed an autograph. That was the first time, uh, that literally the best, first time I saw Pistola play live and I remember him coming out because we were in like this little tiny little bowl made of bleachers. Right there.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I was sitting in the back right corner in the middle. And I saw a Pistola and Walshi come out and the crowd went wild. Oh, man. That shit's so sick. Oh my God. Oh, it was like, for us, it was like, it was kind of like a festival
Starting point is 00:40:48 if you like E-DM. That was like our MLG events. Yeah, yeah. The E-girls would fly out. I wasn't talking to them. I was, I was big and fat. But, like, it was just like a,
Starting point is 00:40:57 like, it was a phenomenon. Everyone's walking around. The amateurs and the pros are all, like, friends. If you're not playing, it's drinking every night. If you're not playing, you're watching. Hotel room parties, like.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Oh, man. Mick, why don't you play? at the in the fucking Vegas thing. The Halo 2 thing? Yeah. You don't understand these guys, these guys that have been playing Halo 2 haven't fucking stopped.
Starting point is 00:41:23 There's a Halo 2 mod to where you can play the original Halo 2 Xbox Live version on PC. And I did that in 2020, my crackhead error for a little bit. But it was like, once I started playing, these motherfuckers were just, I was like, like, how are the, who are you guys?
Starting point is 00:41:41 Like they were just so hard to beat. After like months, after like a month, where they're like reality check? That's basically who they were. After like a month, I caught my stride and like I was better than all these guys. But like these guys, because this tournament, they're going to be playing on just regular Xbox's original Halo 2. Like it's not going to be some updated like MCC shit.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So it's just going to feel so much different. It's going to be so much different. You should go though. That's what I'm saying. All I heard was a bunch of, yeah. No, you should go. Well, I'm definitely not competing because I would lose the fucking. Yeah, but just go.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Just go. That's like. And what? Bro, you just go to that, man. Let's go. My dream, I genuinely hope one day we have like a throwback East Coast tournament where all the OGs come. NJ HALA? Like, I don't know how many OGs are like playing this.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Just like a throwback with those guys. Isn't all of the final boss competing? Dude. Oh my God, I just had a flashback. Do you guys remember that? Or VVV? Hell yeah. Realized, complex.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Who was the owner of that? Oh, fucking. I got into, I got formal on VVVV for an attorney. I don't know. I got into it with him because he was talking shit about. No, no,
Starting point is 00:42:53 virus was a player. Who was that fucking asshole? No, he wasn't a player. Yeah, I know. I know. I forget it. I know. Victory.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Victory. No, no. No, but what was his tag? Victory. Here, highlight the owner, Matt, and then search that. Duh. And let me see.
Starting point is 00:43:10 see nothing duh obviously dude I swear to God the amount of people that try to come in here and do shit the wrong way oh my god yeah me and formal were a VVV for an event go down go down is Natechon on that team
Starting point is 00:43:27 go down go down go down go down oh no no it was it was because of Mad's girl at the time I don't even remember who the fuck that was damn dude those were the days though for real Nothing better.
Starting point is 00:43:43 For real. Yeah. I think all of... Matt, stay there and go down a little bit? All of FB is playing together. All of what? I saw... Final boss?
Starting point is 00:43:53 I saw Puckett tweeted out. Hey, uh, all right, slow down and let's see how many of these orcs are still around. Which one? Let's see you slow around. Who is going to get paid off of FD? Uh, all, everyone on FB. There's no way. None.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Go down. No way. I mean, phase. They're not beating these randoms. All these are all these are. are gone. So we're still around, but they're not in, like, e-sports, they're still just I guess sniping. I don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Bays is there, keep going up. That's it. Damn, man. That's it? XGN competitive. Damn. E-girlslayers? PCM, the European team. E-girlslayers was fire, though. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Now, a lightning pandas I thought was fire. Lightning pandas I liked. It was, dude, it was so grassroots back then. It was just like, Let's just throw what came together, figure out how to get to the United. I went to Black Oppos 3 champs. Our team name was corn. It was just like stupid back then.
Starting point is 00:44:49 K-R-N? K-R-N. K-R-N. Like the corn, C-O-A. Corn, like the corn on the cobcorn. Yeah, we were called Team Corn. Yo, you're corny. You're Matt corny.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Back then it was just, man. It's like the Vince McMahon mean where he's shaking his head, just can't even talk about it. He can't even talk about it. He can't even talk about it. Dad, what was it like when? You went to a vent in 2012. Everyone was friends back then. Now it was just so split.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Every team has like their own thing. Gentlemen, the finalists for ESports team of the year have just been announced by the ESports Awards. I'm going to read them in no particular order. T1LOL, Falcons, ESPort. Natis Vincere, Navi, obviously. EDG, Edward Gaming, W7M Sports.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Gen G, I heard of them. G2 Team BDS, Team Liquid Dota and optic fucking gaming it says Texas
Starting point is 00:45:49 there but we winning this shit we have to I hope so to get the people involved and listen
Starting point is 00:45:55 I don't know is it all fan voted I don't know if it is fan voted here we go with this shit well
Starting point is 00:46:01 so Edward won Valorant yep the T1 win Worlds and league I'm assuming that would make sense.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Is Edward gave me the Chinese yeah, right? They're dirty. They had that one player that just went crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I forget his name. League of Legends T1. G2, Rocky League. Wait, who does the G2 win? Rockin League worlds? Dude,
Starting point is 00:46:26 has... No, BDS won worlds, I think. The finalist for Eastports console player of the year, Beast.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Beast Mode. LK, Shifty, Sciio, hi. Hold on. Shifty. Horson is not in Eastport.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Why? I'm just fucking around. Shotsie. Chatsy Simp XO, which is our simp, right? Yeah. Hot Simp. Shotsie, hell yeah, that's the winner right there. No need to name anybody else.
Starting point is 00:46:53 There we go. Congratulations, hopefully to. My man, Shotsie, men, well-deserved champion. Won twice. No offense to everybody else, but did they win? You know? I know Shifty just won the Warzone stuff, but come on. How are they, how are a shodzy?
Starting point is 00:47:09 Shifty and Biffle so much. Shifty Biffle so good. Where's the comp? They haven't even. They're insane. They haven't even gotten close to being touched. But like, why?
Starting point is 00:47:22 They're winning every event by like 50 points. Well, Scumman was, scummin plays second and for a bit it was close, then Falcons just, they're just. But it's like they have like 210 points, and then the next best team has like 140. Oh yeah. No, you would have to build a team.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I think what was his name? Donggey. Okay, can somebody explain to me what happened at TwitchCon with Seth, Aiden and Formal? What? Oh, no, Aiden just tweeted like me, Formal and Scumper playing Warzone together.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Just, but not competitively. Or was he talking about it? Competitively. That's his team here. But I think he was trolling because I think Seth debunked it live because I'm like, Seth would, formal, I could see playing warzone
Starting point is 00:48:05 because formal's gross. I don't know what he's plans on doing. but like that's kind of believable formal going to war zone if halo doesn't pan out but set's not gonna go compete in war zone no that doesn't make sense no he hate no he hates set won't play in a fucking tournament let alone war zone actual tournament i see seth playing with like teep symphony he could he's good crowder or something i'm like man i know you miss me this one right here i'm like look at all these kills you're not getting playing with these other good players you need me back be a pretty good team in wars zone though aiden set and and matt i mean that'd be pretty good yeah that'd be
Starting point is 00:48:44 yeah yeah that'd be pretty good they ain't taken down shift i think they'd be all right yeah i think they'll take it down shifty not hell man i want to see their like povs during the tournament you think i would have tagged them if i was trolled no no no no literally biffles pov is insane no but everyone they are crazy catch a stream but here's the thing they're on match point any non pussy lands on that team and tries to stop them from winning. All these losers, and I don't care who you are, all these losers landed away from them because they were scared to fight them when they were in like last place. If you have no chance of winning, go stop the team from winning.
Starting point is 00:49:22 What's wrong? Like, it's common sense. I heard, I heard players. Let me ask you this. They're like, oh my God, it's Soka run. Are you serious, dude? If I was in last, I would have put on a munitions box in Semtexas and I would have just been fucked.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yo, Osoka's in there. All right, let's see the team is method scump and formal. Do you guys win the first World's Championship? Do we win? I'm not delusional. I'll have to say we go in there and like win. I do think, and my stance has always been, I think a team of three top CDL pros with practice would rival.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. But I'm not saying they just go beat them. No, no, no, me either, me either. But no. I don't know. But no, we wouldn't win, to be honest. We wouldn't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Every time, and we've been friends for way, too fucking long for me to be here. Every time you're about to say something, I'm like, is he about to say something truthful or is he about to say something inflammatory? This one's truthful. This one's truthful. I don't believe that. I think you need at least one BR guy.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I think to start. I think, sir. Oh, to start? Like as in like month one? Yes. If you drop in within the next month. So drop in, pick up Aiden. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:50:35 drop in within the next month, I think you take two CDL guys in Aden or a Dongy, I think his name is, or a scumman or somebody who. Yeah, it's a fair take. Who can know knows the rotations and knows where the zone points. You know what I mean? Because like dropping in three CDL pros, like if you take Simp, Shotsie and Dashie and just say, hey, go compete at World Series of Warzone. You've got two weeks to practice.
Starting point is 00:50:59 There's a lot of learning curve. Just like what guns spawn where? How to what? I mean, if you give it. if they started out right when it the beginning of the season or whatever whenever a new war zone or whatever comes out I think they'll start off a little slow
Starting point is 00:51:15 but then they'll catch a street where motherfuckers are just like oh my god sims shotsy and dashy take down soka shifty biffle within six months but I will say but if if they don't believe that though because I was arguing
Starting point is 00:51:31 with them at Codnex and I wasn't trying to be disrespectful No, I love Hector to death. I was like, you guys just don't understand, man. I was like, you give Hydra plates. Have fun, buddy. That's such a good point. You give Hydra plates, you have fun.
Starting point is 00:51:43 No, I love Hector to the death, but he can't see the light. There's a reason that people go to war zone. They tried the CDL. They tried SND attorneys. They just weren't that good. They went to war zone. Pub stomped. They're like, oh, we're pretty fucking good at this.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And then they ended up over that, like, they tried the CDL thing. I don't think, I don't think CED. CDL pros would go over and just like demolish them. It would be like a, but they would be hovering around like the first, second, third, fourth place. Like they would be at the top. They would. And the same way that we- But if they switch the CDL, they would just get stomped.
Starting point is 00:52:18 The same way that we use like the- That's my opinion. The scump won the solo adola as like a joke. What's his way? What's funny about that? He literally went in there and dominated. That's true. He's best best, best call-duty player, gifted call-duty player of all time. Undisputed forever.
Starting point is 00:52:34 ever to death to us part. My dude. When I talked to Repulse about it, he was like, he was like, yeah, well, people, there have been CDL players that have come over and they haven't performed well. No, no, no, no, no. Well, I was like rated in Tommy, you're top earners. And those guys were solid CDL players, but they were not the cream of the crop. Correct.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's what I was going to say. Tommy, well, Tommy, there's only been two dominant teams in Warzone history and Tommy was on one of them. Oh, May. He was on one of them. Legend, by the way. What the Tommy almond nobs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I always heard that. I can't believe they ever broke up. I do think, and I always do give them the flowers, I do want to say it because I want to be like, I do think Biffle, Shifty Soka, you give them a good CDL player. I do think they could be in the CDL after time. Like, I think that could be a top 12 CDL team.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yes, if they trained enough. If they applied themselves. Yes, yes, yes. But they couldn't. I think it would take them longer than it would take. Biffle could. I just, I don't know. I need to go watch some Biffle highlights.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Shifty could to Soca, I think. I haven't seen the PIVs of the other guys. It's just so much different. hard points and I just don't think they understand how quick CDL players would learn how to play BR like they're like yeah like when I was arguing with them they were like
Starting point is 00:53:42 I said Simp Shotsi Hydra and they're like who would I GL who would anchor and I said brother it does not matter I'm like who would be support I'm like Shifty it doesn't matter Have you ever seen Bruce shoot a two time scope No you haven't because if he did He would literally never miss a bullet
Starting point is 00:54:02 It would never miss a bullet. They're shooting, they're throwing down smokes and shooting through the smokes with a thermoscope. Like, yes, please give, please give selium. Guys, any sort of cheese out there to,
Starting point is 00:54:16 bro, we went to a theater, to a theater, to a movie theater, with lag. And Bruce was hitting fucking quick scopes at a distance and came in second. Bro, that was one of the most insane videos. I,
Starting point is 00:54:32 I knew there that not all men are made equal. I'm sitting there at a movie theater. Bruce is playing on the big screen. For the first time ever. For the first time, snipes like three people. With a laggy fucking input control. Wait,
Starting point is 00:54:46 is this when we were at the... Yes, without time. No, no, no. That second one never came out. Oh, okay. The first one we did? 300 foot laggy ass fucking theater. The first one we did, we were all freaking out
Starting point is 00:54:56 because we were like, what the... Did that video ever come out, Matt? That kid's a creature. I saw his, like, movement. Yeah, this. his movement and is like why I was sitting behind him I was looking at him like doing all these button combinations while playing I was like he's leaning I was like he doesn't even claw her dance was awesome man like he doesn't even claw how does his screen look this smooth
Starting point is 00:55:17 bro look he cracked his armor dude I am locked in I was I was so I was so impressed her dance was awesome he's laying down with his feet up with the fucking turtle divvies Dude, what a fucking, dude, what a team. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Dude. What the fuck are we talking about? That's this lag on this. I mean, but Warzone kids would see this, hyping that up. Oh, this is also. This is for dance. Like, this is like the game had just come out. I give those guys crazy props and I feel like that's what people, they focus on like me
Starting point is 00:55:54 siding with the CDL and they're like, I give Biffle and them like, those guys dominate war zone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't fuck with their competition, not going out there and trying to sabotage their win. Bro, I heard. It's like, but also, if that was Apex and TSM's about to win, 50, 10 through 20 is landing on TSM.
Starting point is 00:56:14 That's not true. They're fighting them. They'll fight them. They're not going to land on their P-O-I, though. They would get, like, incinerated by the community. Yeah, well, that's not, that's looked down upon. But, like, they would, like, whatever, they'd land close and they'd try to fight TSM. They'd try to hold them that shot.
Starting point is 00:56:29 They wouldn't avoid TSM. No, yeah, yeah. No, I get what you're saying. Wait, is that Jordan's Wizards jersey? Weird. Yeah, yeah. Jordan's Wizards jersey. I really hope Verdansk is, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:45 I wonder what Verdansk will actually do for war zone this upcoming year. No, nothing. I wonder if it will carry the weight that we hope. To war zone, what terminal and scrapyard did for us. Dude, I fucking love Call the Duty. Yeah, but like what did it do? for us. Like it was
Starting point is 00:57:01 hyped that high rise and terminal were in the game but like yeah but Warzone just did it completely
Starting point is 00:57:06 take over the maps are not nearly as like it's more about how the community responds to each we want war zone
Starting point is 00:57:16 to be as popping as possible just because I agree I wish in a perfect world I think World Series of Warzone and champs
Starting point is 00:57:25 like the same thing in the same like oh he hits this he hits this He hits the shot. Like old school Halo Cod event? Nah, nah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Oh. That was, that was to win it. He went for style. The turtle doves, remember those? Those are fire. I said, I have it somewhere in a box.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Looking over at Matt, and Matt's like, should have won that. I would have won a. The Verdantz, Garam, man. What an era. Yeah, but anyway,
Starting point is 00:57:52 I don't think, yeah, I think World Series of Warzone and Cod champs should be at the same event. Yeah. That would be fucking amazing. Al, though.
Starting point is 00:58:03 How would, like, from a scheduling perspective? I don't know. I mean, that's what I, I said it to Rob Taylor and he said, how would it even happen? I was like, bro, MLG events used to have 300 teams. Like, what do you mean? They did it in one less day. There is something to be said about the, an Xbox and a PC. Well, we had events back then with Gears, Halo, and Cod, right?
Starting point is 00:58:27 I'm not imagining that, right? Then we have the three e-sports under one room for Rumble Times? I'm going to tell you what happened at this MLG that we've been talking about. Actually, the second one. I think his name was high from Cloud 9. He was like the captain of Cloud 9 at the time. Wasn't League of Legends that involved? Hold on, yes.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Hold on. Listen, Legal Legends was there. It was League of Legends, Halo, Smash, Call of Duty. That's crazy. We had League on the same roof. And StarCraft. And StarCraft. Oh, StarCraft's what I was thinking of.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And Starcraft. I could, Cloud 9 would have never existed as an org if I would have picked, if I would have figured out how to pay, I believe it was like 15K a month for the entire League of Legends team that had just won that, that MLG event. Because I couldn't figure it out fast enough because I was just starting, didn't know shit. I think Jack Etienne, he had just left Crunchyroll or some shit. And then he came in and picked that same team up and then they went on to become Cloud 9.
Starting point is 00:59:31 that you know today. Crazy, right? Yeah. That is. What would have been? I'm glad. That shit used to be just so fun. It used to be so fun.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Pick of him to Jack. We should talk about the alleged super team going on right now. Can we? Can we? Yeah, please. So start us off. The rumor mill.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And then we'll end it on this. We'll end it on the last topic. The rumor mill tells us LA Thieves after dropping their world championship roster or offloading them, they obviously cut, has now re-entered, they are now, if this team is true,
Starting point is 01:00:07 a unanimous top three team off the bat, Hydra, Scrap, Envoy, Ghosty. Is that a dominant team? I don't think this is going to happen. Well, the only question mark is Hydra now. You don't think it's going to happen? I don't think it's dominant. Huh? I don't think they're dominant either.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Wait, why? I think if it happens? I think top three are dominant. My take on the top three, you guys can agree, disagree. I think on any given day, it all depends on who's ahead, what the meta is. They'll take turns beating each other. Phase will beat Optic one event. Optical beat LA Thieves one event. That's why we see the top three, top four teams all win events in the year. Because at different points in the year, different teams peak. Phase can go, Ultra wins major one number one. I think phase one number two,
Starting point is 01:00:51 we won three, then we won champs. Like once you get to that upper echelon, it's those three teams that are kind of fighting for championships. What's the team again? Scrap, Envoy Ghostie. Dude, think about that team. Think about hanging out with that team. They'll be okay. No. They're going to send...
Starting point is 01:01:12 That team is going to implode. They're going to send her to cookies on Melrose. Put it out there. Put it out there. That team is going to be complexity all over. Put it into existence. That team is going to be complexity all over again and Envoy is teep. It's just, it's going to be too much between the three of them. Well, it's only going to...
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm almost positive. I don't... Who, Hydra. Hydra's not... be ghosty maybe scrapping ghosty and hydra it's i'm telling you brother scrapping envoy will be high they'll be good and ghosty they'll be still be hotbox in the compound they're going to troy's not going to have to coach they're going to say go to pine park get us this they're come back they're going to smoke they're going to go win a match they're
Starting point is 01:01:48 going to get off my park my park um i i think they'll be okay from what i've heard about ghosty i think he's matured a bit and if he knows what's good for him he plays his role very well on this team you you you call out properly and you're very happy at all times and if Hydra makes a mistake no he didn't that's the way you treat this team truly because that team is a very the only thing that could screw it up would be a personality clash. Hydro makes a mistake really I would have done the same thing don't worry about it keep doing it yeah yeah it's right it would have worked it would have real talk I can see that thing being good I think so that's the top three then
Starting point is 01:02:26 from a talent perspective of course it's not even chemistry though I don't think from a talent perspective? That team, where's that team ranked talent, talent-wise? It's still third, right? Hydra. Us and Faze, and then that team. I don't know. Scrap and Hydra.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I think they're all tight. I know is really good. I just don't throw them up there with like the shotsies and Preds. Am I wrong? I could be wrong. I don't pay attention that much. He was before this year. It depends if Envoy returns to like a more consistent form. He's a very like...
Starting point is 01:03:04 This last year, he was a bit inconsistent. Actually, no, he was shit at some point this past year. Yeah. He was also funny amazing at some... Exactly. But that's how he was in Cold War. Like, sometimes we'd be playing... We'd be playing control, and he's in the spawn, 80% of the game, killing all of them.
Starting point is 01:03:21 But Envoy doesn't really even need to be like a slayer at all, really. I mean, Scrap and Hydra are literally probably... Strap's probably the best AR pure slay. because Ultra, he was just like a 99 player card every event, even when they were struggling. Hydra is basically a one-man army because Kisman had a rough year. Skyes was on and off. Sib was shooting, which I was surprised to see Sib dropped this early because if they're going to lose Hydra, it's like you kind of need the firepower that is Sib.
Starting point is 01:03:50 So I don't really understand the order of events where that happened where it's like you should have kept Sib until you were sure you're keeping Hydra. That doesn't make sense. What team is Sib on? Do we know? Right now? Yeah. He doesn't have one yet.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Is it Skies and Kids? Just finding two? As of right now, assuming Hydra goes to thieves, then yes, it would be Skies and kids looking for two. I've stayed so far away from that. So the Sib, dude, you've got to build a team around Sib, in my opinion. My-Sib and, yeah. My instant thought is Sibs from Dallas.
Starting point is 01:04:19 G2 plays here. My instant thought would be attached Sib, Lynn's find one. Because Lins is like a promising rookie. G2 instead of? Rocker. G-2, Rucker got bought by G2, whatever. And then who's replacing? The grilas?
Starting point is 01:04:33 The rumor is gentlemates, yeah. He needs to change that name. I would call my name Gotaga. If I'm Gotaga and I have the legend that I do. Wait, he change his name? Gotta. No, change the name of the gorillas. Of the gentlemates.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm confused. Okay, what is Gotagas name? Gentlemates. Gentlemates. Okay, I would change that name to the Gotagas or just Gotagga. Really? Team Geotaga? A thousand percent.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Really? He's that big in in France. Gentle mates. It's not even French. Dude, have you seen the list of like top YouTubers that use top ex cod pros? YouTubeers? No. How many views they have? I saw it on Twitter. It's Seth at number two and with a couple, you know, hundreds of millions.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And then double Seth's viewers is Gautaga. Gotaga would be great for the league. Probably. Yeah, but he did. He has all of France. Yeah, but he did not compete the way that Seth compete. Oh, of course not. I'm not saying. Did he?
Starting point is 01:05:31 Who was he? Was he like a pro player? Damn. Don't fucking talk about him like that. I just got caught in that in that act that I have going with Natchat right now where I'm just like constantly defending Seth just because. Was he a pro? He was a pro. Yeah, back in 2000.
Starting point is 01:05:48 He made like, he made like frag movies and shit. Like, like. But he actually competed. Huh? He competed. Yeah. Yeah. Like the 2008 era.
Starting point is 01:05:59 He was like on the best French team. So how champs used to be back in the day is they would take four or five teams from each country Why are you rolling your eyes? I just hate that idea The best are fucking over here Stop.
Starting point is 01:06:14 These fucking foreign teams Are coming in our country And they're taking our player spots They took her jobs Literally And they're eating the pets Oh you won the Australian tournament Where four teams showed up
Starting point is 01:06:29 Hop over to the World Champion Chip. Well, that's how it used to be. And Gattaga's team always came to play. It's how HALOGOs still is now. That's why I get passionate. What was what was, uh, was Whalers go Taga's teammate? Because Whalers was a very good French player. Yeah, yeah, black dude. No, Whalers, no, Wailers, no, not black dude. But Whalers was actually What? You're thinking of someone else. Me? Him or me? No, not black dude. No, you know what I'm talking about though, right? Like, is Gautagos teammate?
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, I don't remember his name, though. The French Calduty player fucking sick. He's like a co-owner with him. Is he now? Yes, I forget his name. But actually, that's going to fucking eat me up because I know his name, but I just... What's his name at?
Starting point is 01:07:15 I think he's a part owner of gentlemen. I think they co-owned gentlemeners together. Hold on. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Was it not broken? Rudy Gobert? No, no, no, no, no. Matt, go to, go to Vitality. Go to Vitality.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Vitality, Call Duty. Brody? I think it was, I think it was Brody. Hold on, hold on. It was Brody. Let me see, let me see. If you see Brody click on his name. Go like 2016.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Whalers, maybe before that. Yeah, I'm thinking 2013. Oh yeah, there's Moose. 2014 to be safe for you. I don't. Keep going. Oh, God, God, God. his name is Brody go to 2014 be safe okay stop go up till top he was played on the main team
Starting point is 01:08:16 I know I'm not sure no I don't know anyway this dude again all of them French legends French you call it duty legends in my opinion you know one of the earliest earliest content creator slash orgs you got a he's still fucking apparently he's still killing it. I mean, obviously, I don't speak French. How about this? Since Zinni said that he's a co-owner of gentlemates, why don't you go in Gentlemates and Lothian. I'm already on it. I'm going to find it right now. It's something like that, Brody Hawks or something?
Starting point is 01:08:49 I'm telling you it's something like that. We're taking too much time on that. But either way, Gotaga and Gentlemates would be great for the league because he actually, that guy actually, like Heretics is good. Obviously you bring Spain in a bit. Gotaga is a different beast when it comes to what he'll bring to the league. Squeez-y. Lucas, let me see.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Is he, so wait, so what, what, he took over L-A-G? The L-A-G spot, yeah. The L-A-G spot. The L-A-G spot. Is he moving it? France? Yeah. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I hope so, too. I hope so. Also, also, I hope so, or maybe, one of the things, one of the things, like, like, like, like somewhere that at least speaks French. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quebec would be fucking crazy. I like that.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I like that. I mean, I like that better than the friends. I mean, I hope it's a French team. And if I'm a French team, like, I don't, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think that this, that this, uh, hydra thing happens here. Because if, if I'm Hydra and there's a French team being formed, I don't know, actually, because of the players. I don't know. But if I, if I'm, if I'm, go tag, I'm doing whatever I can to get, to get Hydra.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I think he tried. I think he tried and he said on stream, he's like, there's no, there's no chance we get him now. Okay. Because that was the rumor was everyone was like, this team's going to thieves. and then a gentlemanmates, the rumor was gentlemenmates is coming in and they're trying to stop that super team from happening and they're trying to get scrap and Hydra
Starting point is 01:10:16 and then Gutaga came out and there's no chance we can make it happen. Damn, that sucks. Yeah. Because that would be crazy. In a perfect world, that happens. So I assume he'll go for like, I can see them trying to buy out Lens from G2
Starting point is 01:10:29 or they go get Cobra, who is rumored to go to G2 who's a French player who's like an up-and-coming challenger. Yeah, look at that shit. All right, so Shotsie has past Crimson 7 most YouTube views for a Call of Duty pro ever Gotaga 1.68 and he was
Starting point is 01:10:43 he did play pro at some point 1.68 but when did he retire from competitive I wonder if Paris Legion ever reached out to Gotaga that is the number one thing that I've been suggesting
Starting point is 01:10:55 I suggested that in person at launch I'm like go give this guy 25% I replied to that I didn't even know that he had a spot in CDL now and people were like
Starting point is 01:11:07 yeah it's cool that he has a spot now I was like, yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. I know what the fuck. I know what's going on. Yo, how come I'm not up there? River City's finest fucking 3B3 champion.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I played, I played King of the Hill on fucking, what do you mean? How come I'm not up there? GGC. GGC. Did Game stop 2B? TST throw down. Well, am I on this, Matt? Do I have any, like my, no, no, go back, man.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Go back. You don't want to see you. You don't want to see where you're at. Trust me. Trust me. I've looked at mine before. Yeah. Search for H3CC, Matt. Oh, no, dog.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's going to be a lot of blue. What's blue? What's blue mean? Blue is. There he is. Tournament results. Go to all. There's a lot of blue.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Wow. Hitch's birthday bot batch. Wait, where do he's count? Hold on. Go up. Hold on. Go up. Methods.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Hitch's birthday bot bash. Methods. Oh, I remember that now. That was fun. Yeah. You guys, you guys went up. Go underground and plant bomb.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Done. Yeah. There is no better objective player in Call of Duty since Call of Duty 2 than me. Period. What's all my Call Duty 2
Starting point is 01:12:19 fucking King of the Hills? Look at that team. Hex Revin prestigious Key Swifter. They don't go back that. They don't go back that from. No, that's what I'm saying. Like this is revisionist history. Like these people that run this shit
Starting point is 01:12:29 forget about the fact that there was an entire community already built before any of this fucking happened. It's fucking ridiculously and dumb. Wars on Wednesday. Castro and. and hex where umu at the war zone wedstaples you played with vince staples you played with vince
Starting point is 01:12:46 staples i did at the game fuel uh pro m yeah you're like how many events we used to have in a year with it you just read it yeah no no i did that's set and and carl anthony thames one that yeah cat how many events we used to have we used to have umg and m lg how many events was that per year you think like seven eight maybe yeah probably mLG every other month It was a lot. Every other month and the UMG every other month. And then in AW was every month. And AW was insane.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Good old days. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, that's going to do it for this episode of the podcast. Want to give a huge shout out to our sponsors on the podcast, Shopify and Factor. And we will see you guys next week. Hallibis.

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