OpTic Podcast - SCUMP PREDICTS CDL ROSTERMANIA | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 129

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

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I can see this happening. Teams are going to form early, obviously. We have a four-month off-season, five-month off-season. They're going to start playing games like Cold War because they're just going to want to play something. We're going to see scrimms and shit. And what if these teams are shit? We're not going to see scrimms.

Nobody's screaming Cold War. What world do you live in? Okay, listen, I think they might. Dude, I can not like screaming, but like they'll be playing. They'll be playing. They'll be like pick up eights and shit, but like, dude, nobody is full team screaming on Cold War. I don't know.

And they're off-season. They might. Optic Podcast, Episode 129, presented by prize picks guest of the year. Oh, Roger. Yay. I heard O. Roger was filling in. I said, you fuck it with me? Oh, Robert. He said, Davis isn't going to be here today. You want to speak on that, actually? Why don't you, why don't you let,

you let everyone know what's been going on? We got a lot of people coming back from Vegas. I mean, six days of Vegas, first off, is way too fucking much. It's just. Please, never. Devottery and just filled. And I go back in a little bit. Yeah. But a couple of our guys were feeling well. So, yeah. I'm on the podcast this week.

I will be seeing another Cirque to Solae when I go back. That is a fact. Dude, I can't even fathom going back to Vegas in such a short period of time. You guys are going back? Well, I can't say why yet, but yeah, I'm going back in like two weeks. Like six days in Vegas? Because the thing with Vegas is there's nothing, and I mean, legitimately nothing to do besides drink, eat and gamble.

Well, it's a party on your way, on the way to, just in the lobby of the hotels. It's just. Yeah. You're just heading to your room and it's like, well, fuck, there's this, there's a bar. It reeks of bokes. It's just, you got downstairs just 8 a.m. people at the bar. It's just a filthy. It is just like the filthiest of filth that you can imagine.

And we were at the Aria. Arria is like one of the nicer hotels. It gets filthier. Dude. I mean, it gets like actual filth or it's just like, slime balls walking around it? Prostitutes, like, it's just the... It gets filthy. What's up with that?

How are prostitutes, like, obviously it's a lestute? Like, obviously it's illegal. How don't, like, you can tell when you see them that they're prostitutes and are they walking around like the hotel lobby? Like, how is this still? No, they're. No, they're cop just like. No, they're camouflaged. But you know when you see them?

Am I faded for this? Are a prostitutes legal in? Prostitutes are legal? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, but only in certain license brothels.

Oh, you got to go to a brothel. I mean, you can tell. Which includes Las Vegas. Like, she'll pick you out at a hotel, bring you out. you back to her brothel. I mean, if you're at lunch there's an 85 year old with a 22 year old, it's safe to say, you know? Wait, it's fucking... There's brothels in Vegas? Is there really? It's only like Europe. Ah, so the city's one of the filthiest...

Wait, why are you like? Why is he jumping at that? No, I just thought that was something that was known. Trust me. There's a lot. I just thought that was something that was known. No, but there was, there was... I had no idea. Well, I think was a prostitute in, in like the elevator, like, lobby of my hotel because I didn't say at the area I stayed right across street the Vidara I came back at like 1 30 in the morning and there was uh two women that were like circulating the elevators and they were like oh what are you up to like sharks what are you up to and I was like

insane I was not entertaining any that that's insane yeah and there are a lot of people in that city you might have faulted that night you walk back to the hotel 4 a.m you're just fucking you get some drinks not me I'm just saying not me never think that was up never me I'm just saying there are a lot of people I'm just saying there are a lot of people might have folded not not in poker not dude the the gambling went well bro the the I didn't realize the aria was that the tables were that bad it are like $50 minimums at every single table at the aria and that's fine for you guys 50 dollar man for us mortals fucking we had to go to oh yo and sit in a smoke-filled

fucking casino and find like the five dollar tables because it was It was just so bad at Dario. Oh, yo. Yeah. It was like one of the casinos like one street off the strip. Is everything on the strip that weekend? No. No.

Not at all. Really? Yeah. It was bad. No. The gambling was fun, but it was. You didn't do no 50 men's? I played.

That means like per hand, right? Like I stopped gambling because I just lost every single time. I played a couple times at those tables. But dude, especially like Tuesday, Wednesday we got there. We were gambling. And dog, like going down. And then still being four days in that's the problem. You're just like,

that's a problem. Dude, this isn't even worth it. Yeah, exactly. That was my problem. I blew my gambling load day one and I blew it fast. And I was like,

I can't gamble. You did blow, I mean, you went, Tuesday was tough for you. Tuesday was tough. You had a fucking disaster. Do you want to say how much?

Uh, yeah. Because for you, it's not, it can't be crazy. It's not real money. Well, I lost,

I lost, I lost, he's going to piss everybody out. I lost 3,500 on Tuesday. Damn, I'm actually proud of you for that. In like 20 minutes. I'm proud of you. No, he would.

I was expecting like 800. No, it was fucking crazy because Hector was like, dude, why are you in such a bad mood? And this is why. Like, I'm not, I don't think I'm a hater. But so day one, we get there. We all sit down at the blackjack table. Everyone's hopes are high.

We're like, fuck yeah. We're getting out. We just got to Vegas. We're about to fucking, we're about to rob this place. And wait, so I'm sitting next to aunt, and I think on my left was you. And then, Hector was on the right. So we all, we get like our own table, which is already a good situation.

I'm sitting next to Ant, Shotsie. He goes up seven grand in the course of me going down three and a half. I was just watching him get like blackjack, 20, 21 five card. And I'm sitting here getting like 12 and just busting every hand. And I'm like, dude. And I'm just looking at it. He's getting the best cards ever. And Hector's like, why are you fucking hating? And I'm like, dude, do you see what's happening right now? Like, I cannot get a card to save my light. So I went down 3,500 day one, and then I didn't gamble for like three days. And then Hector gave me a thousand chip. And I lost that quick.

You lost that quick. That was after a half a year's. I lost that super quick. And then that was like three days later. And then I didn't gamble again because it was just like, dude. Yeah. I'm just getting cleaned. You lose money?

Not whatever. Like five racks? Really? Yeah. Dude, yeah. I went back to even. Everyone was crushing. Well, Sunday night I want to zero like five grand.

Me and Davis were the only two that got like cleaned, I'm pretty sure. Everyone else was like either up or even, and we just got rocked. And I will not gamble when I go back. I will eat, but I will not gamble. Are you going to stay? I'm not going to ask you if you're staying there. I don't know where I'm staying yet. We did have some good food.

Yeah. We had some good food. We had catch three times. So basically no one really wanted to leave the aria. You had catch three times. I had it twice. I wasn't invited the 30. Dude, you're at the circus.

You fucking ass all. It kills me. Every time you go out the dinner was in, it's the same exact. thing. Right as the food comes out, he goes like this. Yeah, but it's part of the brand. Every single time. Part of the brand. Timelines got it. I'm vlogging and shit. I'm vlogging. I'm posting Instagram stories. I mean, it's a key part of my life, man. Can I hold this so I can sit back? You can do whatever you want. Yeah, I mean, I'm leaning over. No, we had we had carbon.

Carbone was good. You thought it was underwhelming, didn't you? Yeah. I thought Cabone was great. We had catch three times. It was good. It was a lot. It was good Italian food, but. Javier's. Javier's was the trap because Javier's we had Javier's for lunch twice and Javier's, you ever have to Javier's?

Mexican. The chips salsa. Dude, it's so great. And it's a big meal and like you eat that for lunch it like it ruins your whole day like dinner you're trying to eat a salad.

That's not true because we ate it and went to the pool. The pool day was a good day. That was, see that was the, that was like what I wish we did more. Did you go to the pool? Did you do it only Wednesday before the watch party? Yeah, Wednesday we went to the pool.

And it was great. didn't lose any money it was great Vegas is a trap man I don't know Everyone else wanted to gamble and I'm like Me and his on Sunday We were like let's go do something else We went to the Cirque and then there was the after party at 10 p.m

And we didn't go thank God Because I heard that was a shit show I wasn't even call it the after party I would just call it The entire CDL community Plus fans in the in the hotel lobby And it's like you know there were some tweets Like I do think there has to be like some private

at like a private event Sunday night. Like it's all great, but like you're trying to drink and talk to your friends and like you got people taking picks and stuff. I mean, there's people talking about roster moves and there's people there's people right next to them and shit. It's like, I don't know. No wonder everything leaks in our community. I remember back in the day it was just everyone's Sunday night bar. There weren't really like pictures like that.

I'm surprised was there was there ever was it ever like that for you in like 2014 like 2015? when you would go to the bar like Sunday night where everyone goes like with fans and stuff? Yeah there'd be a few but Because I feel like nowadays it's more crazy Like it would be like possible

Because they're like Because like they're looking They're like where are they Well then they show up The bar is like so close The bar is so close to the venue I'm surprised at how like protected it was I was gambling Sunday night

Me and Zuma And I hear behind me this guy whispery He goes the big doggy dogs got 21 And I was like I turned around oh, you heard me say it? I was like, yeah, I did. You loved it, though? I mean, it was hilarious, but it was just, like, funny. Like, me and Tommy were sitting there

a game, and I'm just fucking, I'm spewing. It's Sunday night. I'm talking to Tommy. I mean, that's a serious. It's a dangerous. Because obviously, I mean, we don't say anything crazy off stream, but we talk about, like, more private, intimate shit. Yeah, you know, it's like, how's this, how's that? What about this roster move you heard about? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not stuff that you'd want people hearing.

And roster mania is upon us. Is it about to be a shit show? Rosser Mania? Yeah. It's actually going to be fucking crazy. The problem is two full teams have a full team of unrestricted free agents. Seattle and thieves, right? So yeah, you have eight players unrestricted.

A lot of those players being good players. And then it's just going to shake everything up. Ultra apparently is interested in selling insight in Kleenex because of financial issues, which is like the last thing anybody expected because Ultra they play second at champs. Obviously, scrappy stays. You can't get rid of scrap. No. But it's like, if.

If you're losing Kleenex, who do you get? You know what I mean? Like, it's a... So they can't keep that roster? Or they just... I'm not sure what their plan is. They're either... I'm assuming...

I thought that roster was like a solid four. They are just going to like stick together. I'm assuming their year two deals are too expensive and they're going to try to do something to lower those deals or they have to sell them off. But I'm not sure who's really buying. I think Kleenex has more of a chance to get bought than Jamie just because I think Maine A R-wise is like you have Clay unrestricted. Ily's back in the mix who I

he completely sort of Well I feel I don't want to cut you off But I also feel like salaries are about to get They might They might Well for some players For some players No matter what I think like those

S tier players are going to be paid Yeah they'll get paid well Three four or five like yeah Big money But I feel like salaries The average salary is Probably gonna go down a little bit I mean there's there's rumors about us

Going back to YouTube as well No If that happens I mean the player's salaries I mean And then on top of that you have like the whole org rebrand combo. There's like, I saw a rumor that there's like four, potentially five teams that are like looking at Florida is the most.

Fair chicks potentially. Yep. And then Seattle's apparently moving to Vancouver. And then London to Charlotte. London to Charlotte. But there's more that weren't like leaked. I'm confused as to what those are. Like there's like apparently some teams are changing names or cities and like but like those.

Maybe L.A.G because of their whole change. Maybe. I heard L.A.G was staying. I don't know. That's the word on the street. The team? Like the organization staying. Oh, okay.

I heard that it's cleaned house and did like a company revamp, but I heard L.AG. Stang. But this Rastromedia is going to be crazy. And obviously things are already popping off. We're only two days in now and we have like a five month off season, which also sucks. I mean, five months of no actual call of duty action. Like, it's just like everybody's just like a little drama queen right now. Just fucking fiend in for drama.

Intel and my Twitch title is Rostermania. I'm not even talking about Roster Manny. Like, but just in case something pops up. Yeah. But my title's Rostermania and they're coming in. Why aren't you even talk about Rostermania? Fuck you're playing X-Defiant, buddy? Playing X-Difiant.

Yeah. It's weird not being in the mix, though. I don't think so at all. You were never in the mix. You were able to point and say him. I was fucking, please, don't drop me. You will keep me, please. I'm good.

Any takers? I'm very good, please. Yes. So, I mean, we had a very different idea of mix. You had a nice pool of players to pick from, and I was fighting for dear life a couple of years. But it's definitely weird. But, like, I'm still receiving intel.

Like, I still have my little moles. And they're like, I love it, dude. I mean, it's crazy. The only team that's going to stick is New York. Yeah. I think the only team that's not making changes is New York right now. That's insane. the Ross Romani will also like at least like take like one of the two if not three months of like the off season like it'll like fill that time but now our off season is so long that it's like well you have like the two weeks past where all the contracts will void right and there's usually at least like a week to two weeks where like everything still kind of get figured figured out so that's like there's still like a month of entertainment from the cod scene right post champs but this year it's like we still have four fucking months to fill right that's where we step in four months cooking streams hot tub

streams. I mean, we'll be playing. Yeah, I'm actually excited. I've been waiting for the off-season because everyone kind of expected me to play like MW2 ranked and I'm going to be straight up just honest. I didn't retire to play MW2 ranked. Like people were like, why aren't you playing ranked? And I'm like, dude. So X-Difant, maybe Apex? I want to do like a little, like a mini, like off-season series. I want to try to get top 250 on Warzone, which I think that'll be the easiest to do. I think I think that'll be pretty easy to be honest. And then I want to get, so people said getting pred on apex right now is like impossible because it's just time in

which is kind of the same as war zone. So I'll probably go for like masters on apex and then I'll probably go for like a mortal on Valor and try to hit like all three of those which I think is doable. I hate video games anymore. Really? I just can't sit there and like focus like maybe it's just because I feel

like I've lost my skill so it's like what's the fucking point? Well you could get it back if you want it. I don't know man I tried. I truly tried man. I don't know. what's happened. I mean, all you played was Halo. I know. Go play something else. I've tried. Apex is fun. Actually, fine, was all right.

Apex with a good, like, group of three. Yeah. I think will be the most fun game we play this off season. Well, you also don't have, like, a group to play with, right? Like, every time you stream... Every time I stream, I'm just, like, being so overly dramatic, and it's just, like, some solo stream where I'm just fake raging.

Fake raging. I'm not actually mad. Fake raging. But I'm just fucking raging. And I've always been, like, a solo stream. because I feel like whenever I party out with people, it's like I don't, like my stream's just like not the same. Because usually when I stream, I'm just like talking to my chat the entire time. And so when I play with someone else, it's just not the same. And the game's like Apex can't play that solo.

No. You need a squad with like a goal and try to win. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do that. I don't, I don't got what it takes anymore. You will do it. Too. That's the problem.

I don't have a choice. He's so worried about like his average concurrence when we're playing other games and it's like, dude, it's going to be like that regardless. That's just matter at all? For brand deals, yeah. Like over like, like, you won't. No, no, no, no. You won't play unless like you know it's going to be like a good stream. No, no, no.

My actual worry is like, I have like, I can go for like three to four hours and play something and be in it. But once I'm like out of it and I'm forced to play it, I lose it. Like the other day we were playing Warzone, Me, Him, and Cloak. and we played for like six hours. By like four and a half hours I was done. And I was just like a shell of myself. And what are you going to do? Dude, I don't know.

I'll fucking... You're right. What are you going to do? I just need more coffee. I don't know. I just need to be like really like into it. If that makes sense. I don't know.

We have five months of off season. I know. He said he was going to go back... No, it just depends on the game. Zinn said he was going to go play MW2 ranked. No, I said if I was solo. No, no, no. I said if I'm solo, I'll just like...

Because I still enjoy playing call duty. Like, I still have the itch to, like, compete, really-ist, like, honestly. Like, I'm trying to play in Cold War AIDS. Exactly. So, like, that should all do, like, I love. I mean, that sounds way more enjoyable than playing MW2 ranked. Like, any chance I can play, like, anything competitive, I'm going to be playing it. That's why, like, I'm excited for X Defiant to come out because I feel like there'll be, like, tournaments.

I'm like, I'll play that. But it's still an open beta, right? Like, they're going to close it back down after, like, a week or whatever. I think tomorrow it closes. Fuck. All we have is tonight and then closes tomorrow. So we're beat. Yeah.

Unless I'm pulling all nighters. I mean, I'm going to play today five, six hours. Like I was 13. I'll wait for the real game to drop and then I'll probably hop on over to Warzone. Warzone is fun. You will be playing Warzone.

I will. Dude, Warzone's not bad. It's just when Warzone starts going bad, it's miserable. Well, yeah, but that's how Warzone is. That's how any BR is. If it starts going bad, it's fucking, you're sitting there spectating. Yeah, but when the streamer you're watching is miserable, it's kind of miserable to watch

as a viewer. Oh dude, that's how I, that's literally how I felt like a few months ago or like, you can fake it three hours ago. Not seven. Like I would have to like fake it, but in my head I'm like, I don't even want to start up another game. Like thinking about

like, I'm like just fucking watch YouTube videos. Like, excuse me or something. But like, that's where I think I could thrive. I felt miserable and it's like, I think I could thrive. I feel like the chat can like pick up on it. Like, I don't know. like just ruins the vibe of the stream. I think that's my end goal.

Just one of those streamers who sits there and just bullshit. I can waffle. I could talk for hours. Yeah, but you have to do that every single day. Yeah, that's the problem. All day. Just sitting there talking all day. I could just go the route where I just talk about every big streamer

and then they'll start watching me talk shit about them and then I'll blow up that way. Yeah, just getting to every single piece of drama. There's every single thing just give my two cents. Then they'll start. And you're two cents. Who the fuck is this kid? Your two cents would piss off so many people.

Oh yeah. Exactly. That might be the strat. Yeah. If all else fails, I would just mute my interactions. I wouldn't go on Twitter. I would have subscriber-only chat, and I'm just name-dropping every single huge streamer

and giving my two-sense. I think this. I had to switch to eyebrows. I think this guy's a prick. There's any strategy? Yep. If all else hits the fan, you'll see me there. To only for a gym stream.

you're trying to get into working out a little bit I need to get back into working out I need to get back into it I'm actually down for my IRA streams are so much less stressful but you were playing kickball the other day that should look so fun who you playing kickball with

I'm in a kickball league with a you don't know any of them it's just like a guy I know that was friends with one of my like someone I went to high school with but randomly met him out here and then he asked me to join his kickball team and I was like sure so now I'm just like going to kickball

theme with a bunch of random people and we're actually like kind of nice. I think there's like eight or ten teams in the league. This is like this is how I know I'm like getting fucking old. I'm in this like co-ed older people kickball league. Like we beat a team like

15 to 1 the other day. They were just like all probably like high 30s, low 40s maybe and I'm just like this is where this is where I'm at now. And I have They see me pulling up. I have my fucking tripod behind the whole plate.

I'm in like ultra wide mode. You can see everything. I kind of like it, though. It's a lot less stressful. And, I mean, I couldn't, I had to sit there and, like, talk to my stream the whole time. Instead of, like, even talking to my teammates who I don't even know. But it's definitely a lot less stressful. You're out in the sun and enjoying a game of kickball.

It's more of my speed these days. Yeah, it's like a child. Like, that's, like, good to hear because, like, I feel like I would, I'd love that. Like, a baseball league. Like, get me into, like, a baseball. League. Yeah. I feel like the world

has changed so much. Just a different time. We'd have to play in a softball softball. There's no baseball leagues. We were trying to get one. There's no baseball leagues. Like nobody would commit to it.

I'm not playing no softball, dude. I'm playing baseball. I would just wouldn't. What do you mean there's no baseball leagues? And what do you mean we? I said I. There's no baseball league. What do you mean we?

I said I. There's no baseball leagues. What the fuck did you get in here? What sport would Optic get into? We could start a baseball league. You're telling me we're not having a bunch of applicants for a baseball league. Baseball is hard, unfortunately. I'm a captain of one team.

Like softball, you just go up there, you lob the ball, you hit it, you field it, like baseball. Can you imagine if we get real into it? I can see basketball. Carrying the bag? If we joined a rec league, what would, obviously we try to do it with like optic members? What sport would we play?

Basketball. I feel like we'd get sucked into soccer because fucking hitching. I can't play soccer. Hanks should be down for basketball, though. We do basketball? I'd do basketball. But then we show up.

People know who we are. get slammed. Do we get we get jerseys? Yeah. None of us are that good. We get slammed. We don't shit. We're short.

It'd be like 80 to like 16 type scores. No. Bro, when I tuned into your stream the other day when you guys were playing kickball, like five people bunted in a row and then they just lost the game. I was like,

they're not even trying. I was like raging. Bunting's a good shot. From my side, like they're not even trying. Yeah. But I mean like I've kicked it. I think I got up to

about like six times and I think four of the six like I'm booting the ball like I'm sending it to the moon but then they just catch it so it's like bunting might be the strat we're gonna talk about it's so boring we're gonna talk about it next Tuesday before we go into our match throwing some bunting because we don't we don't bun at all but like the team we played against was bunning every time you guys just played like a baseball field yeah yeah it's gonna be like one 95 10 yeah it was next week there's a day it's supposed to be 110. Let me just say, this state is unacceptable when it comes to heat and allergies. Not feels like 110, actual 110?

Dude, 110, 105, 105. 104, 101, 103, 110, 105, 105, 101. This is the first time. I wish I was back in the suburbs. Have, like, a house. Like, before you leave the house, you would, like, go turn the AC on in the car. Like, being downtown, bro, you can't walk anywhere. Walk into the office is miserable.

Four minute, four minute walk. But then it gets to January, and it's fucking snow. I was going to walk today. And then I was like, I'm just going to be sweaty as fuck. Dude, me and Cammy wanted to walk last night, and I came back with just some swamp ass. It was just... That's disgusting. I mean...

Yeah, you have to shower every time you go outside. You have to. It's definitely... I wasn't expecting it to be like this. Let's talk about Cod Champs a little bit. New York. New York wins, 5-0? Dominant.

Dominant fashion. Huh? Congrats Troy. Yep, people are saying the optic curse lives on, even through the coach. Tragic? Yep. I mean, congrats to them. I mean, it was, it was crazy.

I wasn't expecting New York to win again, and then they did it. The fact that they 5-0, too, that's kind of crazy. I'm going to stand behind my theory that it was, if Scrappy didn't talk shit, it wouldn't have been a 5-0. I don't. I do. I don't. He fired up the whole team.

We can agree to, dude, they were already fired up. You're going into a Cod Champs Grand Final. Exactly. You're already fired up. You're already fired up. And then you get more fired up. You get more fire. No, you're already fired up.

There had to have been a PC issue. Some of those kills were looking serious. I'm talking like pre-amed. We just get fucking spat on. We actually couldn't believe it on the watch party. Like for a while it was like we were laughing. It's like, okay. But then we were like, what's just kept going?

What's going on here? It kept that happening. Oh, man. Wait, what is this? Scrappy versus a fan? I got to see this. Wait, what? If you're a fan and you're talking shit to the rookie of the year who just

play second at champs like can't be a video is it oh this dogger you almost passed out and fell over when n ysl sent you an envelope of a player card you're on dick like maria to zion i did see this oh he dropped an NBA reference why is he even respond like not because sometimes it's great the nerve some not no it's just sometimes it's hilarious like i i responded to you Oh, dude, I thought it was hilarious. Some dude was like, I just love when Methods tries being the center of attention on the watch party and Scump brings him right back to reality.

And I said, oh yeah, Zach, do you love that? I thought it was fucking hilarious. I thought it was great. I read it and I was, I was captain. He's just like, what do you? Who's typing that? You would lick the dirt off my shoes, kid. I saw Bose tell someone on Twitter like,

What did he say? That's fucking good. Oh, I love the fact that you hate life and I hope it gets worse. Wait, Mark said that? I love the fact that you hate life and I hope it only gets a worse. Dude, Bose is great on Twitter

for shit like that. It's going to start reality checking to everybody. I gave up one. No, he forced to delete. He responded to anyone on Twitter. Yeah, I mean, that's how you know. It's victory. Oh, shit.

Yeah. That's victory. Yeah. If they delete you win. What are the comments to Bose's tweet? I'm going to delete it though. How do you? Oh yeah.

Davis came through back in beef. Yeah, I'll send it a like. I don't know if I'm going to get into it. Because it's like there's always bad apples that are going to talk shit. And then there's like the actual cool people that see that shit. They're like, what the fuck? I saw Matt Craig with a like on Boz's. I have a mixed base.

Then you clap back and they love it. Matt Craig's throwing a like on Boz's tweet there. I had a lot of people. people come to my defense, but also the original tweet, got a lot more likes. Like the guy talking shit to me? Like my reply, like the original tweet, there are some haters really good involved. Oh, hell yeah, brother. Agreed.

Oh yeah, there's both sides. Oh, fuck yourself, buddy. Oh, man. It's funny. Sometimes you got to clap back. I might turn, he's notifications on. He's great on Twitter. Like, with shit like that.

What else do we got? Should we talk about our team at all? How we perform. No, I mean, I don't, I mean, we didn't play well, obviously. It's one of those things where, like, see, it's, it's annoying because we'll say that, like, they were this close to making a winner's final, and then people will just say stop making excuses, but, like, they fucked up on map four. Map three was he was hella close against New York.

They fucked up map four. They go to losers bracket, and then they play Seattle who just beat thieves, and then they lose last map. And that's kind of how champs goes sometimes. If you make a mistake, you get fucked. Well, Chances is always crazy. Like, think about the first round. Rocker goes up too well against New York,

who literally goes on to win. Imagine Rocker somehow pulls out a third map and then Rocker beat New York first round. Then, like, the whole thing is shaking up. I said, if we play Rocker round two, we're making the winner's final. Yeah. Because Rocker, yeah, we were beating Rocker if we played Rocker round two.

And then we're in the winner's final and then who knows what's going to happen. But that's not how it panned out. And yeah, it also gets amplified because we went 0 and 6 map count at the major before. So it's, I get the frustrations behind it. But yeah, I don't, I don't want to talk about our team's roster mania because I don't want to, I don't want to interfere with their process, you know what I'm saying?

It's just weird, like, it's always weird talking about roster mania because most people already know what's going on. Like all the people talking about Intel and roster mania, we all know what's happening. Like, I could name three rosters right now if I want to do. Like, we all know. So let's stay out of it. Yeah, so then I go on stream and I say, oh, if this team gets this player. It's like, I already know

what's happening so that I got to sit there and lie and be like, oh, imagine if this team gets this player and it's just like a whole like, it's all farming. It's all a game. It's literally all just clicks and fucking around. And that's the reality of Rostermania. It's like, most people in the scene, behind the scenes, no.

Like, rosters are starting to shape up. At least some. Some are stolen the air. I'm not getting text from people. Like, I just, you kind of start putting the pieces together. Thoughts on this team, blah, blah, blah. Putting the word here. I got players asking me to put in I'm like, what the fall? Like, dude.

I'm not the person you want to putting the word in. I'm getting offers. London said bring us back. No, they didn't. They didn't. Nobody's offering. But they fucking should. Nobody's offering.

Do you think every team's gonna change besides New York, yeah? I think so. I mean, I didn't think Ultra was gonna change, but now obviously... They might still not. They might not. Yeah, I don't know. Phase, I mean, phase is a question mark right now. I think the trio sticks. I don't know what really happens after that.

And then after that, I think we're like, well, let's not talk about roster media. And then we just start going team by two. No, no, no. I'll talk about. Matt's like keep talking. I need a title. No, no, no, no.

Everything but after. I'll talk about every other team but us. Because I don't want to get, I don't want to interfere with the boys' process. And I don't want to step on any toes in that, in that sense, just because, like, I mean, it's the boys. Yeah. It's just weird. They had such a good run.

And then just kind of like. Fizzled out. Well, people were saying it was like a honeymoon phase and everything was going right. They get second back to back. I kind of expected that, not the physical part, but like the honeymoon phase. I was like, Gossi's going to come in here and he's going to be just challengers. I thought they looked insane for a bit. I thought, well, no, they were the best team in the world for a while.

And the one downside of that is you're under a fucking microscope. Every single team is looking at everything you do. How you play in Hardpoint, the transitions and control, your search. Like, if you're that good and you're not close to champs, like, you have to keep innovating and like adjusting and adapting. And like there's only so much you could innovate. Like I feel like towards the end of the year, most teams are playing the same when it comes to hard point.

And that's why you'll see like teams that were ahead earlier in the year. Like L.A.G, for example, L.A.G wasn't going to stay ahead for long. Like, they had the game figured out. And as soon as the top teams and top talents figure out what to do correctly, they're just going to out-talent you. Yeah. So as the games progress and you're under a microscope,

I mean, it's very hard to stay consistent. That's why I do, when it comes to Phase, like Phase, obviously they place top three, which is still great. but like, phase's consistency is the crazy part just because, like, they're always in the conversation.

Like, they didn't win the past couple, but they are always there. So, like, that's like a team that just... I will say Dan did have a very good rookie season. Oh, no, yeah.

He did. Hell yeah. At the beginning, obviously, like, whether it was nerves or whatever, you know, he came to the league, but I can't remember what event.

No, I'm pretty sure he came in and just started doing his thing. I don't think he really... There was just one play against Asim on Fortress. Oh, yeah. Back forklift. back forklift and ever since then it was like a new dan yeah he came out yeah i mean you come in and

your teammates are shots the hoop dashy yeah it's a good team to come in it's a good team i mean it's a good team that's a good three players to have beside you but it's like he's also like a very vocal numbers with those players on your team he he he has proved his like he deserves a tenure in the league you know what i mean like he has he has came through and he he is one of the main reasons why that optic roster went on that crazy run. And also, I think people just like Dan, like his story. Like, I mean, he's, he's a good guy to get behind, right? He's obviously a great player. And the IGL aspect's really, like, impressive. Just being young and coming in and having the confidence to, like, speak up and not take a back seat when you're next to players like

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Yeah, that's standard. Like, it's very standard. We'd have like, was there anything like weird they'd point out? We'd have like screenshots of their setups and search. Like I mean, yeah, you have like. Like on P2 rotation, they usually send two back here. I mean, it's kind of, you can say that, but it's hard. Whenever you're in the moment, it's, it's kind of hard to like game plan for

hard point. Because it never actually works out exactly. That's why I feel bad when people give hate to coaches. Like Brian St. for example, I'm not sure how good friends with Brian, grew up with Brian. I'm not sure if he's a good coach or not. I don't know.

But I do know that once the players get into the match, the coach can't do anything. Like, you can be the best coach, you can be the worst coach. There's only so much you can do to actually affect the game. It's not like the NBA where you can yell from the sideline and be like this play, it's like the coaches, after they're off the stage,

they have zero control over what happens. A player goes out and drops a point four. There's no fucking strategy that can help that. And a foul, they're calling, plays and shit like he got harpooned bro you guys have never sat in the back like little pit area during our matches dugout but it gets fucking crazy every single one of our coaches that we've ever had they just turn into a fucking stress ball oh yeah every single time and they're like oh why are they yeah like even even jp crez who's like one of the more like soft just like very just chill

coaches he gets fucking into it too he's like why are we not doing this why are we not doing this like he gets into it. It's so easy to do that from hindsight, by the way. Like it's so easy in hindsight to be like, why the fuck aren't they do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you see all the dots. Yeah, you have wall hacks behind the scenes or like this guy's behind that wall. And I don't play the game.

I don't really know the game, but even watching it. I'm like, why the fuck? Why would you contest that? Why would you die there? But it's like, it's so much easier in hindsight and when you're just watching. Hindsight, hey, heary's. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't believe the season's over. I mean, this one flew by. And it obviously feels different. It's just like the transition. Like it's just a weird, a weird feeling. Yeah, it is weird. But now we're in offseason and roster mania will commence. It's already kind of commenced.

We're starting to see rumors start flying around. And we'll see what the team's rosters look like going into the next year. Let me pitch you something. Hear me at one more time. Dual player. Optic Boston methods, optic Florida methods, whatever. I play for two orgs, split jersey. optic logo, something else.

It's not going to happen. I live here. I play out of one of those offices, and whenever I'm not competing, I come join the watch party. I'm a dual citizen. You act like you don't have to sit there and scrim and do your warm-ups before matches? No, they would know the situation. No third sets. No warm-ups.

No warm-ups. And on match days, I'm on the watch party, whatever I'm not playing. It's a good gig. I can really, you're not warming up for your matches. You're just sitting on the couch. No, no, I'm warming up for my match. but after the match, I'm on the couch. Well, what if you're like third match?

I'm on the couch for the first match, the first two maps the second, then I go shoot bots and then I load in. Yeah, see, you're insane. We'll talk. There's no way to do it. No, we'll talk. No, we won't.

We'll split the salary down the middle, Optic, whoever I, we can discuss it. Okay, we'll talk. Split that salary, huh? Down the middle, you say. Sure. I will say off-season, know what I can't wait for?

The launch tournaments. Because like I wonder how we're content creators now. So can we just form like these fucking super rosters? Oh yeah. You, Shotsie Brandon? Yep. Would you guys ever play in challengers for a tournament? Yes.

No, I will be. He won't. I will be. I fucked up. I had the opportunity me and Bose were going to this past season. And I just screwed up and I didn't actually do it. But I will do it. I know you get stuff now with like the watch party and stuff, but that would be so.

I love it. You need Merck and Big T's for some reason. Just like decided. I really. It could be just shit like that. Why'd you just leave me out? See, I would do it, but people will, like, I just know how people, well, people, people will literally take it like we're like a real team.

No. No. Yes, they will. Yes, they will. It would be stressful. A real team? And then I'm going to get mad. I'm going to get mad like.

That's a fair point. I'm sitting here not practicing playing against kids that are scrimming every day. You know you're better than them, but you're losing. That just sounds miserable. Nah, dude, me, you Bo Zuma. First off, no one's thinking that's a real team. Bo's is throwing frags.

Tommy's hitting the pen and flanking. He can't even talk. I'm in Hill. He can't even talk. I'm in Hill throwing trophies. You're just Killhorn like you have always done. And then that didn't get you. I'm immune now.

Think about it. I think that's great content. We scrim a little bit. People are tuning in. You have 30K viewers. It's a good I... 50K, sorry. See, screaming like that would be...

That's one thing. But actually playing in like tournaments and shit, like, scrimming and shit would be fun. If we could just like fuck around and get scrims, but like... Dude, people would scrim us. I mean, that's a great opportunity. If you were a challenger team and you could scrim in front of 30K people, I think they're gonna...

I mean, we were trying to scrim last year, but we couldn't find one. You remember that? We were trying to get the Optic Boys to play us, and then we were going to play a challengers team, and then we didn't. We tried to do that last year. Before, it was literally right before that tournament. I promise we can get scrims. We'll talk.

We couldn't get one then. We'll talk. Optic Nation returns. Yeah. What if we're filthy? Like, we're fucking insane. We're 7-0 and top challengers teams. We scrimmed pro team, slam them on stream.

Subliners get put down 6-0. You're like, oh my God. I'm streaking versus Hydra shooting his body. Reddit's going crazy. I come back. I hoist gold. I'm getting fucking crowd-served. Yeah, see, he's still so about it.

Oh, yeah. Shit that'll never happen. He's still so about it. This is what he thinks of when he's like laying down it. No, I'm thinking of walkout songs. What the fuck am I going to walk out to it, champs? I'm walking to the watch party couch. After he just got eliminated?

No, no, I mean, it's not even competing. Just walking in, AirPods in until I collapse, walk into the watch party. Let's fucking get in there. Stream. Sure. Yeah, free agency begins Monday, July 3rd. Team should be making players with extensions, options, aware of their players by next Monday.

So people... Next Monday, that's in four days. No, no, no. It's the Monday after. July 3rd, it's the 22nd. No, but the teams are making their players extension options aware. So they'll know if they're getting picked back up or if they're obviously getting let go.

So in four days, that's when shit's going to really... I wonder... So, I can see this happening. Teams are going to form early, obviously. We have a four-month off-season, five-month off-season. They're going to start playing games like Cold War because they're just going to want to play something. We're going to see like scrimms and shit.

And what if these teams are shit? We're not going to see scrimms. Nobody's scrimming Cold War. What world do you live in? Okay, listen, I think they might. Dude, I could get like screaming, but like they'll be playing. They'll be like pick up eights and shit, but like, dude, nobody is full team screaming on Cold War.

I don't know. And they're off season. They might. I could see it happening. Teams breaking up before the season even begins. Just watch. Dude. All right.

What? All right. We have been in the Call of Duty community for over a decade. When has that ever happened? We have never had a five-month off-season. It's always been like two months, three months max. People are going to go start playing Valorant. People are going to go start playing fucking Apex.

Nobody's fucking screaming Gold War. What kind of reality are you in? I'm just praying they scream Cold War so I can play. You're trying to get in on the action? Can we talk about the submarine, please? Yeah, let's talk about the submarine. Can we talk about, you realize how fucking stupid you need to be to fuck with the ocean like that? Does anyone know the fool?

story of why. He's dove and deep. Yeah. No, what? No pun intended. Dude, no, you don't mess with the ocean like that. Well, what's the submarine thing? You have a bunch of rich-ass people. It's a five-person submarine. How many people were in it? Five. Just five? It's controlled by a

GameCube remote. Just five casuals. Or whatever console was. Let me go see there. And that's an off-brand PS2 controller, I think. It's literally controlled by a $40 controller. Bluetooth? Bluetooth? Bluetooth? Yeah. Input delay and shit. Oh, Bluetooth. They're lagging and shit, trying to move it.

So they said they have extras on board, but it's Bluetooth operated. That just sounds like a recipe, dude. So just five rich people get in a submarine. And to go see the CEO of the company. To go see the Titanic. Go see the Titanic. Through like a literal hole. Yeah.

It's like, dude, AI is so good. You can see that Titanic right now. I could show you it right now. It takes eight to 10 hours to get down there. And because you can't. No, no, no. It's, I just, I literally just watched something. They said it takes.

two to three hours to go down and then they're down there for a couple hours and it's two to three hours back up. So it's like an eight hour? It's like an eight hour total like eight to ten hour round trip. So what exactly happened? So you're in the, they're in the submarine, it starts going down. They don't know. It's just all, it's all theories and like what? And then they just disappeared? So people are saying it was either.

What if a whale just? So apparently they were pinging on like sonar and shit. And then apparently that went away. And so people people are assuming that there was a breach in the hole and it just imploded because when you're that deep the pressure just fucking literally you just get crushed yeah instantly and there's another theory that they got like trapped inside the wreckage of the Titanic

so they couldn't come up because there's like they said there's like seven different ways for them to come back up and one of them they can do without power and it's like a sandbag drops and then they just just come back up and there's two theories it's like They're either trapped inside the Titanic or they just instantly all died in the submarine imploded on itself. Because there is a breach. At the surface, right?

Or they're at the surface and they can't get out. Or they're at the surface and they can't get out because it's bolted. And I mean, that would just because you're literally looking at outside, you're on top of the ocean and you have no air inside of it. No, you got to, I tell you. Wait, they're saying they could have floated back up to the top, but they're bolted inside and can't get out. It has to get bolted by like, I think it's like 20 bolts because of the pressure. They have to do it that way. And that means they can't get out.

Like someone from the outside has to unscrew it. Like someone has to find it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's literally a fucking horror movie. Like, I would never in a million years. If I was getting paid, I wouldn't do that. Nope. If you got paid too.

I would not go down there. Any amount. Fuck that. I'm not even kidding. You offered me $10 million. I'd say, no. I'm not going down there. I can't do something like that.

It's just like, no, you can't. The oxygen going away slowly and just like it's getting hard and breathe. There's a lot of things I would do for a lot of money and that is just, you could offer me a billion dollars. I'm not doing it. I would not go down in that. I agree with you. No, I'm not going down there. I can't. Unless it's like. Dude, the ocean. There are certain people I would trust.

That's insane. Okay. This one seems sketchy, right? Two miles. If I have like NASA running the operation or like Musk, I might consider a billion. If I have a certain... Yeah, I think I have to try the bill. I mean, if you're in like a fucking... If you're in like a industrial-grade

U.S. fucking nuclear submarine, that's one thing. If I'm with the general, I'm going in. But I'm not going down in that thing. Actually, I don't know. Dude, the ocean scares me. It's just two... That's...

Two miles deep? That's insane. 13,000 feet. So it's more than two miles. Because I think 5,500 feet is a mile, so it's like... I can't even, like, picture that in my head. Yeah. Have you seen you haven't seen like the infographics where it like shows

Yeah, like the lowest depths of like the Mariana trend yeah I saw that but even then it's still like at that point you're seeing creatures you didn't know exist Like there could be some me some megalon. Yeah, this is fucking giant squid Yeah, the cracking fucking the deeps down there to swimming around yeah I mean goodness gracious I would I would I would not I honestly would never get in that thing ever Did you go to space and the worst part is the internet's loving it Bro, the amount of memes. Would you go to space or do this? Uh, really either.

If I had to choose one? Space would just be dope to. No, I couldn't do either. I don't want to go to space, dude. I don't want, who the hell wants to go to space? I kind of do. Dude, you're down, you know how big the Birch Khalifa is? It's like the biggest building in the world.

You're down, what? Six of those? You're down two of the Grand Canyon. It makes no sense to me that there's that much water. That's not even like deep. To be honest, it goes way deeper than that. And what's crazy is even if they're found, like they don't have the equipment to get them back up either.

There's like one other sub or something like that that was like searching for it. Well, yeah, that was my question. How much manpower was actually tasked with finding this thing? Because it sounds like they have a search team down there. Yeah, you like can't. It's not like they have like, you know what I'm saying? Like you can't really do anything.

You're forced to like use sonar. I don't know anything about anything. But like there's just, it's just not practical. Like, it's not, it seems impossible. And obviously now I think they ran into oxygen, which is like confirmed now. So even if they were to find them, they said at 7 p.m. Eastern this morning,

so six, six our time, they ran out of oxygen. Yeah. So I mean, that's, that was fucking, that was five and a half hours ago. That's a horrible death. Like, that is probably the slowest. If you just run out of oxygen, like I'm sure you feel it.

Like the last like few hours, actually maybe even the last like 24 hours you might be like damn it's getting hard to breathe than like 10 hours damn it's really hard to breathe 5 hours left it's like I can hardly breathe like you're just slowly fucking dying

probably hallucinating shit And you're at the bottom of the ocean It's pitch black Like you hear weird sounds You never heard before Well they said that there was like Knox or something that they heard Like in 30 minute intervals

And they don't know what it was I mean I just I can't fucking That's that is It's not a good way I mean that's fucking miserable It might be one of the worst ways you can possibly bow out Would you even want to see the Titanic that bad? I don't give a shit about it.

I mean it's a father and his son Like that's fucking miserable That's like a horror movie Literally out of a horror movie Dude I didn't know it was going on And I wouldn't watch that horror movie Because that's like that's when I wouldn't watch Yeah

Well they already have a documentary coming out I think it airs tonight What? Yeah, they have a documentary documentary coming out about it. They fucking love it, dude. They're on top of these things. When this type of shit happens.

There's someone in the boardroom fucking ecstatic this happened. And that's sickening to think about. I saw that there were people betting on if they were going to find it or not. Yeah. There's like, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

There's people betting on if they're going to find it or not. That's fucking sick. What a horrible, horrible way to go. I think I'd rather just drown. How the fuck do you not make it to where you have a way out. There is. I don't know the pressure.

I don't know anything about the pressure. There is a way out, but... No, you would need someone else to get you out. Oh, but I'm saying, like, I was saying to get back to the surface. But yeah, there's not a way out by yourself, which, I mean, it makes sense because imagine if someone, like, didn't know what they were doing and they try to open something and then it just implodes. Yeah.

But, geez, man. I mean, I don't know what else to say. That one is grim. Yeah, it's great. It's very grim. And lighter news, who you got, Zuckerberg or Elon Musk in a cage match? It doesn't, isn't Zuckerberg? Like, I got...

Zuck, yeah. If this actually happens... Not MMA guy, but, like, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu personnel. Elon's going to get fucked up. And Elon said he was down. I mean, this is some crazy shit. If this actually happens, this world's not real anymore. Like, I'm done.

I'm out. The pay-per-view sales for this will be insane. It might be the most. sold fight ever. Like over Mayweather. Yeah, it actually would be. And I think it might blow it out. Like, this would be insane.

Two literal just powerhouse CEOs. Yon would get fucked up. You think he'd win by knockout? Who Zuckerberg? Yeah. No, you'd get him in some some Brazilian

judicious. Isn't Elon the richest man in the world or no? Probably. I mean, this can't be real. This shit's happening. This can't be real. Can't be real. But it looks like it's real. There's no way that's going to happen, though. Even though Elon did say he was down.

There's just no way. This is the type of shit you see and then you just forget about it never actually happened. Yeah, who knows? But if it does happen, it's going to break records. And we'll be watching. I will 100% be watching. Just because it's just absurd. Society is fucked.

What else is going on in the news? Matt Craig? Well, yeah, Tifu retired. from content, which was... My favorite Fortnite player. Yeah. It's crazy to think about it. I didn't really watch the full video.

What do you think about the fans? He had a good quote about this. There's some people... Who teafed it? Yeah. What quote? Or what do you mean a good quote about it? Go ahead.

You finish first. I was going to say someone's like some fans are... He felt trapped and the fans were like, how do you feel trapped? You're playing video games for six, eight hours. You can do, oh, that's a normal job. I'll tell you how. The social media space is miserable.

He's in a video like crying about. So the social media space is miserable. That's how he feels trapped. Yeah. He said, uh, yeah, that's it. I use gaming to escape from reality, and now I use reality to escape from work. Like he, you know what I'm saying?

Like that's like a, because I feel like it has all changed a lot. Like social media is a lot worse now. It's very toxic. So I understand. Like, I can relate to what he's saying. Like, it's definitely a lot more miserable than I used to be.

I mean, gaming. Then someone can, hear you say that. I mean like, shut the fuck up, Zinny. All you do is. Yes. I sort of. I sort of get it.

If you're a, just a regular dude working a regular job, you hate your fucking job, but you got a clock in eight hours, five days a week or whatever. And then you see someone like Tifu, he's a multi-millionaire, he's crying, saying that he's trapped. I mean, I'm sure it's like a little bit. I'm sure he's, I mean, you never really know what he's going through. He probably chronic a little bit because it's been such an impact in his life

and like he thinks he knows he's like set on sort of leaving this space so it's kind of sad but he also could be like depressed in real life and just like they don't think like that. People just don't understand. People also don't understand

how early a lot of these content creators start. So his first YouTube video was he was first on YouTube when he was nine. So from nine to 25 he's just all. he's like probably been doing is just gaming, game and gaming and it's like people probably think he's like start playing Fortnite in

2018 pop blew up and now five years later. I mean yeah I get it. I mean it's it's there's a lot of social pressure to stream like if you're not enjoying it it can just drive you insane. And when you're streaming it's not like you're just you get to just play video games

like you're not just playing video games like you have to be entertaining you're talking to chat like no matter what mood you're in you have to have to worry about you can't You're on camera. You have to worry about your viewerships. Sometimes you can't even play games that you want to play. You kind of have to just stick to your main game.

All you do is look at numbers that like sort of. It's all perspective though because like someone who doesn't have this career, I feel like it's very hard to understand the pressure. Oh no, I get it. Well, people to see money. It's all just perspective. People see money followers, whatever it may be. And they're just like, oh, this guy's fucking, why is he complaining?

Like, no one actually knows. Like, you see the highlight of people's lives. Like, I don't. I don't care how much money someone has. I mean, I'm a firm, I don't think money buys happiness. That's a controversial topic for some people. I don't understand why. Who likes freedom?

Money solves money problems. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you're stressed or depressed about something money related, sure, money would solve that problem. But like, money does not solve a lot of issues people have. So it's always tough to talk about. It's fair. Our complaints about this space or whatever we do,

just because, oh, someone has it worse, or I just work 10 hours of construction. It's like no one's discrediting you. No one's disrespecting that. It's not a dick measuring competition. We're just speaking. But even like those guys that had to work eight hours at like a other job, it's like, well, you got to work eight hours at another job.

This dude in fucking Africa doesn't, like it just, you can always just compare something worse to even what people are complaining. Comparison is the thief of joy. Exactly. Well, and that's the problem is all of these things are designed to make you compare now. So every, every 20-year-old thinks they should have a million followers and a million dollars and every 25-year-old feels like they're lost in life, and that's because social media now is literally,

they tell you that not to worry about numbers, not to compare yourself, but every single one of these things is designed to do that. Like, every single one of these things is designed to make you feel like you're either trending upwards, trending downwards, or plateauing. And that's the miserable part of social media. And it's now algorithm-based, and you've got to...

It's just not... That's a whole different topic, but it's impossible not to compare yourself, in my opinion, these days. Well, I hope Turner finds some of... finds what he's looking for, you know, hopefully he enjoys. He said he's, I saw he said he just wants to be on a beach somewhere, drinking a beer and just chill.

I mean, good for him. Yeah. Good for him. Yeah. I think we're at an hour, right, Matt? Good for him. Hopefully he finds what he's searching for. Absolute legend.

And he said he needed a break, so maybe he'll be back. Take your break, mom. Yeah, take your break. Enjoy yourself. How much go to kick? Me? Yeah. I don't know if I can.

say that. Probably something. Matt, there's your title. Two million for Tony. I don't know if I can say that. Two million for Tony. Are you allowed to openly talk about that if you're a like Twitch streamer?

I don't know. I don't know. Let's blur that out. I just don't know. If I knew that I was allowed to, I wouldn't care like saying. But like I don't know if I'm allowed. Can I say it for you? You passed me a note.

They can't hold it against you. Just mouth it. Mouth it. I got you. I'm not mouthing it. So Doc's got a YouTube contract. He's tweeting out 50 mil is my number. Streaming has gotten insane, dude. 50 million?

Oh my God. I mean, that's life changing. It's not even life changing. It's generational. Someone needs to look out for the average fucks like me. Like, where, just give me some baby contract or something like. We need an agent for us average. How much would you want to be, like, happy?

I mean, you look at Twitch right now. They don't even, once you even hit 100K, your shit goes down to like 50-50. I mean, wouldn't be much. Maybe a couple hundred grand. That's about it. Someone needs to look out for the average fuck. Train racks, come talk to me. I will not speak.

I will not speak because if I speak, I'll be in big trouble. Yeah, you will. All right. Oh, man. Life changing money, though. Literally. Crazy. That's episode.

What episode was this? 129, I think. Episode 129 in the books. Thank you guys for watching. We'll see you all in the next one today. Next up number 130. Peace.