OpTic Podcast - SCUMP VS NADESHOT FOR $25,000 | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 139

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

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there's no foot you can't even get coffee that early you can't door dash anything welcome guys to episode 139 of the optic podcast as myself Seth you know methods

Anthony and uh Bose just making sure I couldn't remember you have nine names you know Anthony's in Zinny Tony Big back

Fat Tony The fuck Bad ass Wide double wide Loser Weirdo Coward The hell

Nerd Geek That's harsh We're We're straight back from Last night We got back from the Rangers Stadium

Optic Night Happening Optic logo Right there On the On the On the diamond Seth through the worst

Seth through the worst First picture I've seen in my entire life. That's not true. It wasn't the worst you've seen. We all saw 50 cents. It was up there. Was it? He came back in the suite. No, I'm just fucking right. He came back in the suite to everyone's, oh my God, you did so good. And I looked at him and I said, I'm not going to lie to you. That was hoarse. It was like when you were throwing balls to shortstop. Well, no. He told me to get up on the mound. I was like, I'm going to throw up from right here. I like told him, I was like,

I'm going to throw up from right here. I was in front of the mound, like on the grass still. And he was like, no. And he like, he did that. And I was like, I instantly said, hell no. To be fair, to be fair, I would have shit myself. Yeah, he told me to go up and I said, hell no. That's like, yep. And I was like, oh, dude. Like, I feel like playing on main stage, playing on main stage in Cod, you're like in the front and everyone's like in front of you.

Whereas like you're on the mound next to, when there's like 40,000 people in a circle. It's just like all just staring at you as a singular person. I would have shit myself. There wasn't 40,000 people. Like when it filled up, there was. It was sold out. Yeah, but like when I. Yeah, during the, yeah.

I mean, there was probably what, 30,000? Yeah, like 20, 25, something like that. 25,000 people staring at you. Was there? Yeah, definitely. I mean, it was like... Decent amount of people there. That was like a huge game,

and it was like 30 minutes before the... I looked around. There was a lot of empty seats when I threw it. Dude, that place filled up. You didn't have the best view in the house. He would go better than we... That place filled up so quick. Yeah, all Astros fans.

That was actually sick, though. It was all Astros fans. Dog. It was like, the Astros got a hit, and I thought, like, the Rangers did. Well, every time an Astros batter went up, it was like a minors batter went up, it was like a mix of booze, but I couldn't tell what it was.

It was like, it was booze, but also cheers, and then that Bregman dude was getting to fucking applauded. I think, I think the Astros fan base was just no, not Breggman. Seeger. That Seeger guy's crazy. He hit back, he had two homers. Two homers still to lose, tough.

Yeah. And he ripped him. I was literally walking out of the stadium when the second Homer hit. And I was like, well, that's good. At least, like, you know, we'll win on Optic Night. That was my last thought before I left the stadium. And then I checked Twitter on the Uber home and I was like, well, so we had like a, oh no. So we had like the suite up top where we also had like a, I wouldn't say we had it,

but there was like a field suite, which is like field level where like you're like literally on like level with the players, which was sick. So like we had four seats in there. So we all took turns kind of like Hector went down. Me and Hilton went down. And as soon as we got down there, that's when seven run inning. Like we got down there and we just saw six home runs. And I was like, what the fuck?

And the entire, it was insane. It was insane. It was actually, because, like, the, the batters are right in front of you, like, swinging, warming up. Like, I could have been saying crazy shit. And they would have heard me. Like, they would have heard me. They've probably heard worse. Can you imagine?

Most of you turn around to me? It's a six-foot-three baseball player. That's fucking great. But that was, I mean, that was, that was dope. Yeah, that was, that was fun. Our second Rangers night. I'm glad that this year, you know, the results weren't that great as far as the game is concerned. But this year was a lot more hype than last year because the game like, I think last year, Rangers night was after they were already, they couldn't qualify for playoffs.

They were getting railed. Yeah. Yeah. This game was like. It was like they're both competing for playoffs. Yeah. And it's like both Texas teams. I guess that goes actually dope.

Yeah. Two more games. Two more games in the series today and tomorrow. And we just got done last week filming a baseball video A home run derby We won't spoil anything

When does that come out I hope you did it well You better of When does that come out Representing Bayonne New Jersey To tri-state I'm not gonna lie It was harder than harder

I thought was gonna be Hitting a baseball after not hitting a baseball For probably 12 years It's very very hard I was like what That's hitting shit You've never hit in years I'm like

Whoa I'd never use that legament? Yeah, same. My back was killing me. Same. The shit was fun, though. Like, it made me, as soon as we left, I was like, I think we should join a softball league. I'm down, but not, it's got to be like a fall summer, like a fall.

Like, it's got to be 75. Yeah. If I walked out, it was 108, I would just walk back to the car. Walk out, walk out. Yeah. It'd be like that fucking meme where the guy walks in the little wood door just immediately puts his hat down. Walks right back out.

Who was that from? Ran Stimpy? Something like that. And there's also the, the, the simps. one too that's similar he just walks in put his hat on walks right out yeah dude the the the merch team uh i asked if i could borrow a hat i know cat dog that's what's from is it the little blue guy is it yeah the merch team asked if i or i asked the merch team if i could borrow a hat for something um and so they they let me or they let me borrow this this green hat is one of the green hats from the

the drop oh they're they're supposed to be up here but from there's a green optic hat baseball hat and I wore it to that shoot and we put on I had it on backwards and then we put a whole helmet on and then there's a GoPro on top of the helmet it's like a hundred degrees outside so we're all sweating and I you know we shoot the whole video we're running around and stuff and then I get back and I get a text it's like yo we haven't taken product shots with that green hat and that's the only one we have can you send it back here so we can take product shots with it and I was like sweaty as fuck dog i took it off and looked at it you know like

the whole brim of the whole of the whole it was just sweat it's just sweat it's just sweat and it's like dirty under it just just take the shots and just write game worn that's what i'm that's what i said and just lie about who wore it altouvae game war and aran judge

i mean i knew they were they were slammed yesterday when al tuvee started going yard i think altuva hit two and runs last night now well seger hit two too. Al Tuve might have hit two. That guy's quick, dude.

After he hit like a little dribbler and he was at first base by the time. The guy even touched the ball. I don't know any baseball players besides the main two. He has like, he had like 10 home runs and what is it? Like a hundred, 20 games. You never saw the video of him like. He hit two last night?

I think it was he had a walk off in the playoffs. Like, I don't know if it was last year, a year before. And he was telling him not to take off his jersey. And he was getting like he was like wearing a wire. or like wearing something where he could see know what pitch is coming and shit what you never saw that scandal they got caught cheating right yeah they got caught cheating but like that's why a lot of people hate them but like if a curveball's coming someone makes a loud ass annoyed in the

stands like yeah yeah no they used to have it in the tunnel we were talking about it yesterday they used to have like they'd use the back screen and then they'd have a monitor like in the dugout and if if they saw like a curve coming they'd hit a trash can in the tunnel that was that's like what they were doing. That's the only thing I know about the Astros is banging on the trash cans. Sick motherfuckers. They were in their tunnel just hitting the trash can every time a curveball was coming. And apparently they came out and said that like all teams do it.

They just did it way more obvious. I'm sure. I'm sure all teams do it. One little. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a. It's like you're looking at a certain player.

Dude, I could, you're telling me if we were like screen watching a search tournament, no delay. Dog. And we were in the same room. You could have looked at me and go. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, there were times. This is they're going A and this is B. There are times where I thought about how easy they're going B. Like, if I'm sitting, I'm sitting watching the game, like, I got my vision camera because I'm right there. And, like, you guys are playing on stage and I look and I see TK going B and I just hit you with a little, like, flashlight. It would be easy. It would be so easy. But, like, it would be sickening.

Or I have an air pod in. It's definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's done it. For sure, someone's done. You think so? No doubt. I mean, the most notable, like. The most notorious way to do is look at the crowd

or have like a little earphone to the side. You know what I'm saying? Remember like back in that? Yeah, Rick. Yeah, Rick used to play with his earphone off. Oh, that shit. Yeah, Ricky paid one earphone off all the time. Listen to the casters?

Just like, it was like a habit. I got home. You're a Clint? How often did the crowd, how often did the crowd give shit away when you guys play? Was it often or not? Only diffuses?

Yeah, you can only tell during diffuses, really. Or if like, it's like a 1V1 and you guys get to like the general. vicinity and like you're about to like see each other where there's like crazy timing you'll know if you're close to somebody because like to grab the oh I used to pull one of these like if someone was diffusing and like say it's like a one of you one

you're on the bomb I'd be like yo Ricky say I saw him and he'd be like you saw him and like I know they could hear what I'm saying that worked at like local since like old school tournaments not in the booster like main street yeah now it's like now it's like you can't but back at Inja Halo hop it and people oh shit he's on it

just fuck with him Yeah, dude, yeah, that sounds... Those are the days. Are you guys gonna play this? I know we talked about it last time, but you guys are actually gonna, like, try to play scrimms and kickoffs and stuff? I want to, yeah.

I mean, I'd be down. I know if that actually happens. I think, right now, I think the plan is for like the kickoff creator tournaments, like the actual pro, whatever, me, you, Shotsie Pred. And then, as of right now, our daily squad is me, you, him and Nate, is what Nate is what Nate wants.

He's texted us on group chat saying, I'm actually down to grind. So we'll see. So, but right now, I think it's us three and Nate. I mean, he's crying about it. And you said you and Nate are doing like two v-two stuff and you're going to be doing shit. But I'd like to actually play in the Challenger's Cup. Just because...

Yeah, that'd be fun. I want to play the game as if I was a competitor just to learn it as quick as possible, just so I actually know. And I'm like, I'm on the watch party and I can actually be like, you know, this, this and this. That does make sense. And then I just also want to play. Like, I just want to compete. And I feel like it'd be like a fun...

I think that'd be fun to watch if you're, like, watching a Scrim Challenger's games. and also fun to play. So we'll see. And there's Dead Silence this year. So like hopefully the search and destroy community. And I'm hoping we bring back CTF. I mean, if we have the old school maps, I think it should be CTF.

Dude, it's going to be great. I think it has to be CTF. My God, that shit was so fun. Here's the thing. Someone got one flag. They got the other. You guys are fighting and shit like midnight.

We've never had CTF with that, with those traditional spawns in a Infinity War game besides MW. Like if you think about CTF or, besides MW2. So if you, like the original one. So if you think about like, like CTF,

games at CTF were in, they're all TRAX and then World War II. World War II was like weird CTF. It's like there was no overextending. Do you remember? It was like something, something was weird about M.WR World War II CTF. It was like you always spawn behind your own flag.

You never like spawn out and like rotate around. I actually thought World War II had a good CTF. Yeah, I thought we were just boring sometimes. But I think fundamentally it made sense. Black Tower is great. Yeah, like you had like your main, I actually enjoyed World War II, but I get what you're saying. Maybe I'm thinking of London Docs or something. Like there was some map.

Oh, Docs was crazy. Well, Docs was like our auto video because Docs was just like annoying. You'd see 20 caps. Yeah, Docs was annoying. It just Zoom a hitting down mid with a fucking whatever that gun was called and just straight from the box. And then he, that map was miserable for CTF. But we also haven't seen it with like slide canceling and like the faster movement. I'm curious as to what they're going to do with like, like, the faster movement speed on these old school maps. Because I doubt they're going to scale the maps bigger, so it's going to be like, it's just going to be a quicker version of MW2. But if you think about it, like, dude, I really don't like control.

Like I think control was good in like Black Ops 4, but I think Black Ops 4 was an outlier. It was a 5V5. You had 150 health. You had the power weapons. Like it was just an outlier where that was like the perfect storm for control. And since then we haven't seen a good, in my opinion, like a consistent fun, good control game mode.

I'd be down to try demolition again. I'm just not sure if they're willing to like... I think demo... Demo's one of my favorite game types ever, but... Imagine if they did Demo, Gtf, S&D? No way. They got to do Hard Point. No, they have to have Heart Point.

Which I'm also curious that Hartpoint's going to work on these maps too, because we didn't have Hard Point back then. They have to. Where the Heart Point? I don't know. The Harpoin's going to be on, like, Terminal. Favella? Top Heli.

I might come back. Bro, that's going to be a cheeser. That map. That's going to be fun as fuck. Griding this game is actually so close. Actually, that map is decent. Skid Row, I love that bad. Skid Row hard point would be fire.

Karachi Hardpoint, but there's so many like, it's so vertical. Can you imagine Selium's making those stairs on Skid Row that like corner staircase with that hallway in front of them? And like there's like, imagine him in high rise and remember that tunnel right there? See Celium's little fucking head. Yeah. You know me, I mean, nitsch, just your head is in. Yeah. I can't wait.

I actually can't wait. Yeah, wait, off season needs the fucking end. Because I'm just losing my mind. I love in the off season. Well, you're a one-trane. You just play Apex only. Really? You play HALO?

That shit's fun. Halo's fun as fuck. Halo's kind of getting a little bit of a comeback. Is it? Some has been playing it. He's been getting his, he's been getting shroud to play it. Halo is making a fucking comeback. Speaking of HALO, we got the cup right here.

That was actually crazy. It seems pretty good weight to it. A lot of boys, uh, the boys were getting a lot of hate. They were. It's just so, I mean, to be fair, they had a couple underwhelming performances in comparison to winning three tournaments, but I think they silence everybody this tournament.

And also trippy. I mean, every single player went crazy. You saw Brad in the interview was like, I think, like, I stopped giving a fuck with, like people were saying months ago, we won the Worlds or whatever he said. It's cool to see them like, because people are, of course, you know, they need to make a roster change,

you know, things don't go well, and then bang. That's what happens. when you have a really good team and you win a good amount, people hold you that standard. So, I mean, they were getting, they got like third, fourth, and six. So it's not like they were like playing horrible. Like they just people were so like,

they had them on that pedestal of like they should be winning everything. So like if they weren't winning anything, people said they were playing bad. But like they got third, fourth, six. Those aren't horrible placing. I don't think people realize how impressive it is too because I think phase and SSG are literally super teams. Like they literally formed super teams to try and beat optic.

And now they're still. winning. Like, they're still like last year they won the tournament going into worlds and now history, hopefully is repeating itself. Was this the biggest tournament of the year for Halo in terms of prize pool? I think so, yeah. It was 250. I think it was the biggest tournament so far.

Damn, you might be right. Paper! Yeah, that's a good doubt. Watch it. And next up, there's only one more tournament as well. So... I can't wait for Seattle. If they back to back again like they did, that shit would be crazy. Oh, that would be nuts. Seattle? I'll be there. Seattle, dude,

last year, Seattle was a great time. Going away watch. I don't even know what. Obviously you got engaged there, which of course just makes the whole thing special. But just Seattle has like a city. I'm not sure if you guys are like, there's certain cities where you just walk around.

You're like this city's dope. There's like the layout. You have like the market down there. The food was great. It was like it was just a really fun time. The boys won. It was just like the perfect storm. So hopefully.

Seattle's a great city. Hopefully we can repeat that same. You all watch party in it? Yeah, we're going. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Us two shotsy and Nick. I can't.

I like can't wait to go. I'm actually so, I cannot wait for that weekend. That's going to be so fun. And I usually don't like to travel, but like I can't wait for that weekend. It's going to be, it's going to be so much fun.

Yeah. Speaking of the off season, you guys, the three of you guys are playing in the, the off season blockups two invitational, all on separate teams. And I do have the, the first round has already been made.

So you just want to hear your first round. Yeah. All right. So it's going to be, scomp. How many teams are there, four? Four, yeah. So you, Damon.

Pred shotsy? It's a fucking CDL team, dude. Yeah, but it's B02. Yeah, okay. And last year on B or two is running around trying to fucking dolphin dive and shit, just fucking get killed. Who they're playing?

They're playing us or no? Yeah, they're playing you guys. Of course. Me, Nate Shots, Zuma, Attach. Which I feel like is actually a sleeper team because I think Attach is going to be good. Tommy. He asked me how he can play.

If Tom's going to be on the pen, I mean, I don't know what he's going to do. If Tom's on the pen. Tom's hitting pan, we're beat. Because I know Nate's going to be backseating. No, that's, you guys are going to be good. I think so. You guys have a B-O-2 experience.

See, like, we have, like, cracked players, but, like, Pred and Ann, I don't know if they've played B-O-2. I think Nate's going to be so passionate. I think Nate's going to be spewing, yeah. I mean, this is Nate's first land in. Yeah, no. I mean, he's going to be loving it. He is.

Oh, no. When he hit me up, I was like, what? The fact that Matt wants to come just, like, he fucking loves it. He's going to be loving it. Oh, I can't wait. shit on you and what is it 18 days it's coming up holy shit wait so who do we play it's the 23rd right

yeah 23rd yes who's your team it's you who's your team it's you killer temp nameless versus who who's who's who's the fourth team uh john clay aches uh crim crim cram oh shit okay that's gonna be that's gonna be a tough one john two eight seven round in the corner well crim's been racing so yeah that should be all right nameless is 100% going to be the most passionate person at the whole tournament

it. Wow, what the fuck. No, Clay, Clay, Clay might be. Dude, Clay was raging. Remember Clay was raging last year? Why did we pull it right? And I was like, dude, shut the fuck. Like, we're playing Black Cops, too, in 2022. Shut up.

It's all delayed. I'm not going to lie. I got mad last year, too, though. No. When we lost the, when we lost the Caps team, I got pretty pissed. Really? No, the first time we lost him. I was, dude, I was so stressed last year because of the fucking Eagles game.

Do you remember how stressed I was? Oh, yeah. I had it up on my phone. The Eagles played the Cowboys, right? Yeah, it was like a game and I worked so hard on this fucking tournament. And then Seth was like, Seth was like, dude, it's like the most important game of the year. And I was like, fuck. So I was trying to run around and trying to figure out how to get him to watch the game and play at the same time.

He's a selfish piece of shit, isn't he? You work hard. It's a good game. You work hard. It was, you get this event set up and he just crying about the Eagles. How about you have some fucking respect? I ended up playing tournament. I ended up winning the tournament.

And the Eagles won. The funniest, the funniest I remember backstage. Remember when Kilo drank the Sprite and you looked at him? Do you remember that? So like, Slaus was vaping. I don't think, maybe he had a pen, and then he was like smoking, whatever. And then he's like, yeah, I did this, this and this, had a sprite. And you were like, out of all things, you drank a Sprite?

Dude, it was a fun. It's probably not funny to actually, like, tell the story. I never seen Killa Drink soda. Yeah, you had to be there. He was like, you were like, you drank a Sprite? I've never seen Killa Drink a soda before. Dude, Killet was frying last year. Yeah.

Like the first round? That guy's hilarious. Yeah, I can't wait. That shit was so fun last year. Yeah, it's going to be fun again. So what is it just? Double M? Yeah, double M.

Same thing as last year. We have like a really fun two weeks span. We have the off season. Yeah. We have Cod Next. And then we have Seattle. Seattle. But yeah, you guys should come to the off season if you want to see these guys play.

October 3rd through 5th or 5th or 6th or something. Do we stream both days? Yeah. Well, I think, yeah. I think it's October 4th or 5th or something. Last year was only one day. Maybe, I don't know. But.

It was like a. segment for multiplayer a segment for Warzone last year. Yeah. And then there's like a they could have changed it up. But who know? I don't know. But it's going to be fun. Last year everybody went. Yeah, I'm hyped that y'all are going this year. Ninja Tapman, Nick Merck's.

Like I was like surprised how many people showed up. I doubt those two are coming this year. But. Yeah. Yeah, they probably won't be there. Probably not. But there was a lot of people there last year, which was sick. Yeah, it was dope. It would be my first one. I've never gone.

All the biggest creators in one room. It was actually really cool. literally felt like last year I felt like a like a summer camp because like when they when they we get in there we do our orientation and then they're like all right you guys can go like break for to eat and there's like four food trucks and you go out there and there's just like tables and at every table it's just it is kind of well no swag and Nadia and like all of them and then like here's like Lou Loo Lovel and like her crew and like it was just like crazy to see destroys walking around just mingling on every table right it's funny because like you just don't put like because it really is

like one big happy fan. I feel like the competitive space is the same way where it's like once everyone's in the same place, it's like everyone's so comfortable with everybody. Whereas like even even the creator space like like on a day to day basis you don't talk. It's impossible to talk to everybody. But like you're hanging out with Iceman Isaac, repuls. Like it's just everybody and just like a big and it's just like a fun time. So it's just like I love shit like that where everyone just gets to be together and Bullshit and play the new God. It was a good time.

Yeah. Hopefully isn't my hairy ass. It's got to be good. It literally has to be good. It's weird because people are going to judge you for saying that or they're going to be like, you guys get your hopes up every year. But is it just me or did we not get our hopes up the last two years? No, my hopes were like down.

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There's just no reason to not be optimistic. Like what, like, oh, wow. It's going to, like, what's the point of saying, oh, yeah, it's probably going to be shit? Like, everything that's came out so far is, it looks good. It looks fun. So why would I say anything other than that? I think it's going to be good. Everyone just so negative nowadays.

And especially I feel like the competitive scene because we look at the game in a very different lens where it's like, we're very critical of different components compared like the casual fan base. Like all my friends from home, they loved like MW 2019 search. It was like the time of their life. Yeah. And I'm like,

but because we look at it in such like a unique perspective where it's like we're looking at spawns and like why this happens. So it's just different. But based on everything that's leaked so far, how can you say anything other than this is going to be a fun time? Like it looks good.

That's kind of how I feel. I mean, it's the maps that we know. It's the, I mean, it's got dead silence, got red dots. My only hope. Slide cancelling, fast movement.

I think it's going to be... 150 health. At the very least, I genuinely do think it's going to be better than the last two years. If it's worse than the last two years, I'm going to be pissed. The last two years have been pretty hard to get through as like a call of duty, like, fan and lover, you know, like... The past two years have been pretty difficult to get through. Dog, to think about... Think about all the shit that...

I mean, Warzone hasn't been good. Warzone, Warzone Verdansk. I'm not sure if it was like the time period because obviously it was locked down and like everybody was playing celebrities, athletes. Yeah, I think that's what it was. But I also think the game was really good and I feel like they overcomplicated the shit out of Warzone

and it kind of like took a lot of people away from it because like you added so many like just different things. But I think in the trailer there was like a Verdant's flashback. Like I actually think, like we're talking about Call Duty. I understand like people probably think I get paid to say this shit we don't get paid to say anything like it's call of duty like they if anything they can make the best game of the year and people no one would bat an eye

you know what I mean like it's yeah it's one of the most iconic franchises ever so my only hope is that there's like original like new maps too because so far only leaked is like the old school maps which I think is cool but at the same time like I don't want people to get bored because I'm not sure how much people can play high rise in terminal this in 2023 and be okay with it for a full year like I also they're gonna have to release like some new original maps like a whole new generation of people who have that's what I'm thinking touched it I played those maps at all that's a good point like literally at all yeah

they're like fucking love it I don't know man it imagine CS2 came out without dust too but I would yeah I do agree like new maps got to have new maps like imagine a halo like I think Halo could play on sanctuary or like midship forever I I I I think think there are things there are maps that are so staple to franchises that maybe you'll get bored but you'll always know what you're going to get and it's always exciting to watch in my opinion like that like this i watch a lot of smash and they've been playing on the same stages for 20 years so it's like same with counterstrike same with what legal legends right they've been playing on the same map summoner's rift yeah so it's like i think hasn't changed i think i don't know about that i think

like terminal or rate and high rise really are the the biggest two for me that it's like I don't think I think those are perfect maps like I think they could be in every cod and like it would be fine I think yes we need to make new maps but there hasn't been a map made in the last five years that I think it's like a legendary map like a map every time it comes out of your life wow I like the gunrunner a lot I'm not sure if that's like an unpopular opinion I like gun runner I like Berlin. You liked Berlin? Am I? The black man? Really? The dark map?

I thought Berlin was a good map. I liked Gunruder. I like Berlin. I thought Berlin was a solid map. Those don't even... What was it? What was the best? I'm not talking about solid map. Tuscan was the best map in Vanguard. I liked Tuscan. Tuscan was the best map in Vanguard. You mean like iconic like...

Ironic map. Like you're right. When you think of Call of Duty, you think of this map. What was the last time a map came out that was like that? maps just aren't made like they used to. Like now, now they're all like, I really do feel like maps are made with war zone in mind for the most part,

where it's like they take like miniature parts of maps or the war zone map and they put it into the game and they make it bigger. And I could be wrong. Like they could be original maps, but map design just very different these days. Like it's just a different one of one.

Yeah. But I don't know. What was the last like perfect map, you think? Like the last perfect map. What was that map on B-O-4? The one with the sliding doors. I like that map.

Arsenal? Arsenal. Arsenal. Arsenal was good. Frequency was pretty good. I think frequency was pretty good. And then Fringe and Black Ops 3 was good. I think Black Ops 3 had amazing maps.

Yeah, Fringe and Black U. War II had a really good map. I know what, World War II had some good maps actually. Black Tower. Black Tower was a good fun map, but I wouldn't call it like a super iconic. I actually like St. Marie a lot,

St. Marie Dumont and World War II. It was pretty good. London Docks. Oh, Docks. Docks was a good map. I think Docs was the. London Docks was a great map. Like the most notable.

Docs is really good map. That's probably the most notable. Which is weird because I didn't like that game at all. Like a random person would know. I think since boots on the ground came back. I wish that game had color. If that game had color, I think I have such a different, like, community response.

It was just like, you got no dopamine from looking at the screen. But fundamentally and competitively, and everyone calls me bias because of one of my best games, but it was actually a good fundamental game. out of like the most recent past five cods fundamentally it was war war two that's number one probably which is easily yeah it's really sad think it is really sad it is really sad but i think like i think if what were the last five cods mv2 sorry no you're fine mdb2 vanguard cold war mw 19 mw 2019 and then blackups four black ums four yeah okay well i know black up four

fucks up war two well no cold war was also great fundamentally World War was great. Fundamentally, Cold War and War II shit on Black Ops 4. Fundamentally. Like, I don't know.

It was fun. Yeah, no, but fun. Yeah. I mean, all three of those, all three of those games had traditional spons, which I think is like, the overall.

Yeah, that's the thing that we kind of don't know right now is what the spawn system is going to be like next year. There's no way the spons are going to be traditional. There's no way. There's not a shot. Don't even get it in your head. No,

yeah, I agree. There's not a chance in hell. It's an, it's an, it's an, it's an, it's an, like fun slide cancelling like I want to be able to war zone Verdance was like after playing Verdonsk

and then going to Caldera the next year it's like oh it wasn't miserable it was probably one of the biggest letdowns ever and then we went to this new fucking map what's the new Albagra Al Mazra Al Mazra what the fuck of whatever it's called I mean it like if war zone's good I'm gonna be hype

because I want to play war zone Redoubt was a grand time I would play warzone because you could scrim you could scrim to go play Verdance can everybody's playing Verdan's. See, that's the thing. You say, all your clips are on your feet or Verdan's. And it was like, it was kind of like a little smaller, like the Fortnite boom was ginormous.

But the Warzone boom was similar to not on the same scale. Like the Warzone boom. It was close. It was comparable. It boomed. It was definitely comparable. Well, like I said. Not even close to Fortnight, but it was like a dope scale.

But like the next best thing I think was the Warzone Verdan's thing. Yeah, that will. As far as BRs are concerned, I can agree with that. You say you want to play competitive and do all this. What if Warzone comes out and it's fucking great? It won't come out for months after, I don't think. It comes out in December, I think.

It comes out a month after the release. I could always... That's how it's been, like, that's how they've been doing it. I mean, I think you're, like, right now I'm doing five, six-hour stream somewhat consistently. Like, when the new Cod comes out, like, and I'm actually enjoying it, I'll do 10-hour streams. Like, I'll play six hours of competitive than four hours of Warzone. Just right now, it's just like, apex I have a lot of fun on, but like bad days of Apex are miserable and great days are good.

Whereas, like, call duty, like, especially if there's, like, a rank play and I can just solo cue with music and I'll play that fucking shit all day. But I do want to, I just have the competitive itch. I really do. So I just want to, and I just think that's like super fun to watch. No one of the watch. No way.

No way. It's not going to come out for six months. Put that shit away. Put that shit away. It's filthy. Fuck show. Have you guys played this new Bethesda game, Starfield? Nope.

I've been seen people talking about. Wait, it's the first new IP from that studio in 29 years? Yes, I guess they've just been doing Elder Scrolls, right? Uh, Fallout. Oh, Fallout. Fallout. Elder Scrolls. Oh, like the first new, like, new actual.

New actual game. Okay, okay. What else do they make Bethesda? They have to have other crazy games. Let's see. Yeah. But I never really like play. I never really like play games like that.

Oh, shit. She's heard on this. fallout elder scrolls uh will skyroo dishonored doom they made doom as well is borderlands no borderlands is gearbox sure sure you guys saw london uh rebranded or relocated to carolina you think it's dope i kind of fucking hate it i mean the best good products i do i just i don't like us losing the uk yeah i don't either but it's like it doesn't make sense when there's i mean like the only thing i hate about it is like there's only like you might be a little bias to this There's only like one UK team, so it's like...

I have an extreme love, hate for this. I personally hate it just because I think the UK, like London fan base, every time we go there is probably the best. Yeah, I do think there should be events over there for sure. Like, I don't see, I mean, I'm sure it's money standpoint. We need an event. Like, we literally need an event in London. Not only because it's like the most fun environment.

Like when I went there, that was the most intense. That was, what, 20 or whatever, but... I mean, the fans are like... They actually... passionate there and they know they're not getting a lot of tournaments so when there is a tournament they show out yes come they get drunk they do the chance like yeah yeah i think i think we need an event in london next year too and that's coming from someone that hates flying overseas so but i think i definitely think so as well bro events in london are just fucking different they won't they won't do champs

in london but like even like a kickoff event like should do chams i don't care what has to be done That would be insane. Like if they, if like the game came out and they told you when champs was going to be but kept all the other events a secret so motherfuckers could prepare for it. Like if you actually have the money to go from here to London to watch, like you got time to, what? It'll be crazy. It would be crazy.

Like the initial announcements like London champs, the rest soon to be announced and like the first announcement is just London champs. That would be so crazy. That'd be sick. Everyone would go to that. They would need a stadium stadium for that. Like everyone would go to that shit. Apex Worlds begins tomorrow.

Wait, hold on. Let's keep talking about this rebrand thing real quick. Okay, go ahead. So, you guys both being from Jersey. Yeah. If there was a CDL team that came into Jersey, what would be a good mascot that you guys would want? What?

Jersey mascot? Yeah, like, is there, say, Jersey has a bad rep because of fucking. The Newport's. Because of the smell of Newark Airport and then Jersey. Maybe like some mafia kind of. Something.

Maybe a guy in a. Something like downtown vibe. A wise guy? Yeah, like some sort of like. You're on the right trash. Something that makes sense. They walk on the stage with fucking cigars. Just wise guys.

What are we doing? That would be that. It's got slammed, absolutely. That guy tried jailing that I put him down. I got my father in the crowd. Are you from Philly? Like a mascot? Yeah, like what would you want your rebranded team?

Like imagine the Paris Legion at the time. The Philadelphia Hogis. Something like. like that. The hell? A cheese steak. A guy in a cheese steak. Philadelphia hoagies.

It would be fun. It would be a cheese steak with a face. I mean, that's, obviously that's off the dome, but I don't know. I mean, I get where you, but you guys are on the same track.

Dog, this blew my fucking mind. Wait. There is nothing royal or Raven equivalent to North Carolina. Like nothing, nothing.

It makes no sense at all. Well, it's not, it's not even the North, it's the Carolina. It's the, which, Which I mean, which is fine. Carolina Panthers, Carolina Hurricanes.

Like, we have that. But, like, the Panthers makes sense. It's just a generic mascot. The hurricanes make sense. The hurricanes always there. Yeah, it actually makes no sense. Oh, I get in a. Royal Ravens, they just took the Royal Ravens and they put them in North Carolina.

Like, I think you're going to have to fully rebrand. If you're going to make a North Carolina team, make them something like Southern related or something like North Carolina related that like people from North Carolina can rally. get behind it yeah because like now it's like what do you mean we have like a arabian team in charlotte that's what it feels like it's just there's a random european team in charlotte north carolina and i i was like hoping that they would call them like the carolina reapers you know what i mean or the car they can't call them the carolina reapers that'd be hard that's probably so trademark that you're not go crazy yeah that'd be fine no it actually would be but there's just no way and what and the fucking logo is just a carolina

yeah something like that's got to be reep like a fucking that's what i'm Oh, that would be sick. That would actually be sick. A Lotus shirt right there. There's like mad, like old wives tales or like the Texas. Yeah, I got it because I live in Texas. Wow. Thanks, then.

From where? We're in Lotus. Appreciate the, uh, I appreciate the insight. Yeah. No, it's crazy. That is sick. I buy a lot of his shit. But yeah.

Anyway, I'm excited that there's a North Carolina team. Now it's officially my second favorite. team. I never had a second favorite team, but now I do. So, uh, but I'm also super bummed about that they didn't re that they didn't rebrand. Like mad bummed. See, when shit like this happens, you think they just X London like events and shit like overseas pretty much out of the equation now? I don't think so. Everyone's under one umbrella pretty much. Like if if they don't give us a London event this upcoming year, I'd be really upset. I think I think it's a kick in the face if they give us one this year. You think so?

They get rid of all the London teams. Oh, and then throwing an end. Did they throw on London event? Yeah, but... That wouldn't make any sense. But I don't think Activision wanted... Like, this was... This probably came from the London organization, like, to rebrand. I doubt the league was like, you have to rebrand in the U.S.

I think there was like a... I don't know, but I don't think... I don't think it was like, hey, you have to rebrand. I think it was more so like an org decision and then they got approval. I just think that they're doing like a system here. You might as well have everybody in the U.S. If you're doing everything here, everybody's ready here anyway. But that's how they had it anyway.

So they might as well. B or whatever, but if it expands, then. I just, I just hope that they keep the team like a UK-based team. Like, I don't want to see UK players continuing to get shafted because there's no, like, UK-based team. Because UK players always get shafted because if you're not signed early, you can't really get signed mid-season because there's visa complications.

So, like, no matter how good these UK Challenger players are, like that guy Vortex is probably, I think he's won more in challengers than anybody. And he hasn't gotten a team. It's just like, there are a lot of capable UK players that just have, gotten a shot because the visa complications. That's why the Spanish team, the Heretics just signed five players to Sarworth because they don't want to deal with like a mid-season. We need to sign a player thing. It's like we're going to sign five of the best guys right now and then we'll figure out the roster as we go. Like it just, there's so many issues when it comes to visas.

I just hope that the team actually stays because we can't afford to have less UK players. You know what I mean? Like we can't afford to become a fully based NA league. I just I don't know what I mean I don't know if they I I think it would be fucked up for them to throw I I want an event in London really bad but I would like to have like a classic like MLG CDL style event in London you know like that's what I mean everyone goes out there yeah they all play not like a because because now you get rid of the legion you get rid of the royal ravens those were the only two teams right yeah yeah you had Paris and you had London and now the next year that they're both gone, we throw a fucking event in, I don't know. I just think it, but then again, like, I think it has to happen. I'm going to throw an event in Charlotte.

That shit would be fire. Respectfully, I hope that Charlotte's not one of the locations. I know you do. I agree. My ideal locations are like London, Toronto, New York City, here, Boston, Boston was cool, Anaheim. Like, like, like the, like places you know you're going to get the big, crowds with the iconic like sort of because I feel like Toronto has sort of secured their like I feel like like the yearly Toronto trip should be a staple like that's a good trip could they

throw a great event I thought Boston was great maybe on bias because I played for Boston and I retired there but like everyone loved the Boston event the the crowd was crazy obviously the events here always crazy New York City was great when we had it um respectfully to Charlotte I just hope it's like sort of the those cities I mean I doubt they're going to go to Charlotte and then the same year they Yeah, no way. But who knows? Apex Worlds does begin tomorrow. Yeah.

What are we doing about that? Are we going to try to watch party? It begins at 4 a.m. every day. We have a decision to make. We look like the most loyal, dedicated motherfuckers in the world and we're on early with coffee, or we just sleep and say it was at 4 a.m. I'm actually, I'm not sure about 4 a.m.

We could probably do like a 6 a.m. We'll talk. But I think our boys play it 4. We'll talk. Our boys play it 4? Before tomorrow. Don't everybody play? Doesn't everybody play it for?

No, there's different heats. No, there's different heats. Oh, okay. It's like a, it's like pool play and then bracket play and then... How many teams are there? I don't know. That's a good question. It's got to be like 40 or 60, right?

40, so what is it? Two heats then? Because each game is 20 teams? Two heats, the top 10 qualify for finals. Dude, I actually can't wait to watch that because like Apex Endgame might be like the best e-sports like culmination. Atmosphere ever. Dude, there's 14 teams alive in the final circle and it's just fucking horizon.

and a wall. Fucking bang all. Even when you're playing, it's like, the end game. It's the most fun time of the world. There's so much happening.

It's so sick. I don't know. I'm kind of down to, to try to get on and watch party. But 4 a.m. is. 4 a.m.'s crazy. That's early. But people would also understand

if we're a little like, destroyed, just like, oh, you got to kill. Just like, if we're tired, like, they'll have to understand. I mean, the stream's off at 10 a. m.

It's a 4. It's not going to be, a 4 a.m. to 8 p.m. No. It's going to be like... Absolutely not. It's going to be a normal six to seven hours straight.

I wonder how many people... I think our entire chat should just be UK. It'd be like a fucking... It'd be like such a different look just because it's 10 a.m. There and people are going to wake up to watch this.

100%. It's fucking worlds. It's their... You think so? It's their biggest tournament. Let's just do it. Fuck it. Let's do it.

I'll set the alarm right now. People wake up at 4 a. I can't believe I'm doing this. It's a biggest tournament. I'll set it right now. Three. I woke up at 3 a.m. to watch the U.S. Women's National team. People wake up at fucking 3 a.m. to watch cars go on a track. fucking F1.

Here it is. 332 and 345 a.m. alarms are set. I'm going to fucking be. I'm going to feel like I'm in war when I wake up to that. Be like, what the fuck is that? What the fuck is it? You go up, you turn on the street. You can't doordash anything.

What the hell is that? It's going to be insane. There's no foot. You can't even get coffee that early. You can't doodash anything. You can't door dash. You can't. I mean, I don't have a coffee.

Maybe McDonald's might be door dashable. Yeah, it'll be right there, right there on the corner. You think I need that? Oh, wait, could you, could you maximize this, please? I can't really see it, though. 3.30. Thank you. The purge.

Okay, so we play at four, so what group or what heat are we in? A. So we're in, we're in with TSM. Jesus Christ. Phonatic oxygen. Oxygen's good now, apparently, too. Yeah, oxygen and TSM. But apparently our team is really good.

Apparently our team is really good. It's like right now people are saying TSM Dark Zero Optic or like. Yeah, we're looking really good in scrums. Wait, I'm confused actually. How does that work? So there's four. Oh, it's right there.

Yeah, so there's four heats. And group stage group stage for two days, Wednesday, Thursday, bracket play on Friday. So the losing squad, they make two. I think people get eliminated from group stage

if you don't make the top Why is there four and a half hours in between the That's how long heat's gonna take There's gonna be like six games So it's gonna be like a 12 hour day There's X amount of teams Yeah we're gonna watch like two of those And they get the fuck off you think I'm sitting there from

10 to 7 You think I'm waking up at 4 a.m. to watch for nine hours You're off your gosh darn Because that starts at 7 That's not that's gonna go from like 7 to 11 Depends if they're gifting. Dude.

That's going to be a 12-hour stream. They're giving them on. Apex A-PICs. I'm saying, Mark. They're gifted. I can't turn it off. I'll be there all day. The first day that,

or the first time I watched the Apex Boys play, I was like, holy shit, it doesn't stop. It literally doesn't stop. I'm actually super down to wake up and watch this. I just set my alarms. You just saw that I'm waking up at 3.30 in the morning. You're 100% doing it? The alarms haven't been turned off yet.

How do you can be good? Good. UK. It's not in the morning. what nine in the morning you wake up 10 in the morning yeah people i mean people are gonna like people it's work it's a world skums life especially like the fuck the canes show in like four am in any states i wonder what i have you guys are going to be the introduction to a lot of these guys like a lot of the optic fan bases like seeing these guys play because they've only played

this it's a relatively new team in comparison to the team that we initially picked up and they haven't even been here okay let's do it i'm just concerned how viewership is going to be at four a We don't know until we find out. There we go. We'll give it a test. If it doesn't go well, press the red button. That number's where you don't, that number is not what you like. You just press the red button.

You got a blast. The worst part is he's not lying. He'll actually do it. He's got a blast. Okay, so it looks like we're going to try to watch party tomorrow I mean, I wish we would have played in like the second heat, but I mean, we're in the same group as TSM. Like, we got to get the fuck on. Yeah, no. I mean, it's going to be a fun watch. And we're going to be talking shit on the house. It's a, it's a two million dollar prize pool.

Yeah, I mean, obviously optics are number one and then I'm rude for Hal number two. We've been playing a lot with Hal. Yeah. Because we fucking, that guy's fucking, that guy's dumb. That guy loves us. It's more of an obsession from his end than us. He does. It went bad. No, he does. He's in chat and shit, tweeting me. Sure. It's an obsession. So, number one, optic, number two, TSM. Who's our number three team if neither of them win?

I'm going oxygen. Boston Breach. I might go phase because of Snipe Down. That's fair. I go 100T because of Nade. Yeah, I'm going to go breach. I'm rooting for phase. If the other two don't win.

Yeah. But I like, I like Snip. Optic. TSM. Oxygen. It's going to be interesting. So is it, is the last day? if it's on Sunday. So that's the thing.

That's where it kind of gets weird because obviously Football Sunday. Football Sunday. I will not be live on that day. You won't be live at all? Nope. But what if it starts hell early and we can like actually watch it before football starts? Oh, if it starts early and like, that's what I'm saying. Because like I just don't want to get off at like the pinnacle

to watch football. Because once like, once you start the stream, you are expected to watch the best moment. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't be like, okay, got to go watch football and finals are starting. You have to watch the fucking final. That's what I did for the engagement party. I was about to say. I was about to

well that works. That's different. No that was great. Do it again. Go to more engagement parties. I had 18,000 viewers. I was like, ha ha ha ha ha ha. And I got nameable spamming me. It's your draft pick. I said, dude. I have 18,000 viewers. So you had 18Ks. He's like, yo, you got a pick. I said, dude, shut your trap. I'm entertaining the masses right now.

All right. Well, I think that's going to do it for episode. episode 139 of the optic podcast. Catch us for 140. And say, yeah. That's how we... It's a lot of episodes. See ya. That's a lot of podcasts.

See ya.