OpTic Podcast - SCUMP VS PRED TRASH TALK 😂 | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 142

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Gentlemen, thank you for your continued correspondence on this matter. We feel that at this point, despite our continued efforts over the last two months and proven history in the past of accommodating salary demands, contract negotiations with the Colorado Duty team have come to a point where we do not believe that we can reach mutually agreeable solution. I was asking for too much. No, you weren't. But he wasn't. He wasn't. He wasn't your pain.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I was asking for too much, man. No, it had nothing to do with that. It had to do. That's crazy. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, welcome to episode 142 of the Optic Podcast. This episode is brought to you by Cash App, Dairy Max, Center, Stitch Fix, and, of course, DoorDash. We'll tell you a little bit more about them later on in the podcast, but for now, let's get started. Some of the topics, just so you guys know, but we're not going to talk about them.
Starting point is 00:00:55 I don't want to talk about the Nage set and crimp stuff. I think it's been played out and has gone a little bit too far. But I will say, my opinion on that. Okay. If I tell you something in private, no one should get mad at him for not knowing what two people spoke about in private. Yeah, I don't know why they're mad at what they expect this stuff to do. I hit up, I hit up Matt. I texted him. I'm like, yo, I don't know what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 00:01:20 People were coming at me and I was like, you, fuck, morons. Like there's no, like he told me this. And then you just start getting mad like, like, motherfucker. It was just you and him. I was just listening. You were, you probably weren't even in the moment. You were thinking of something else. I might have been.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Your eyes were like Anyway, when people started coming at me about it I can't believe Hacks let this thing go out the door And I was like, what? I don't fuck, do they think I edit this stuff? Also, we hired very good people who have been trained. My man, Matt Maddie right here. Who edited that?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Who edited it? Yeah, JP? Yeah, JP would, again, it wasn't a bad thing personally. But I understand from nation's perspective when you guys were talking about he was going to get dropped because I will say that motherfucker would have never been dropped. If he didn't drop himself, he would have never been dropped.
Starting point is 00:02:07 This is a business. Listen, all we did was tell the story of what happened. If people can't handle the truth, I don't know, then we're not going to tell stories anymore. It's just what happened. It was eight years ago. That's the story. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, listen. We're not going to lie. That's just, that's how it went. Oh, shit. You think I would have dropped Nate Shed from that team? Hell no. Hell no. He's good.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Natch had is good for business. You know what I'm saying? You would have had to win championships with him, period. That would have been the, hey, shut up and dribbles. That's what I would have said to you. Shut up and hide up. Anyway, I think it was one of those situations where he, like, I don't know, it got out control.
Starting point is 00:02:54 You know, sometimes when you're on stream, sometimes you're like, you're in the mood and you're just, like, give an opinion or something. And that's what it is. But what did scare me, however, is. is the amount of AI, the AI stuff that's been happening. Oh my. I saw this shit on the motor speedway or whatever in Texas. No, no, no, I'm talking about, you know how the AI superimposes voices?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Oh, over and like Nate shot shit. Yeah, so it was Nate and Crim. The one I saw last was Nate and Crim arguing through AI. And then Dashie in the end comes in. This is like, this is fucking up with my dope or some shit. It's about to get like, it's, it's almost there, but it's about to get like scary for Do you think it would be a good idea for, wait, do you have to type in those words? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I mean, you have to type in the words. Anybody. Dude, people are just on Reddit, they're just like fucking dishing them out, though. Like fake combos and shit? Yeah, they're just dishing them out. Yeah. Like, there's like five different ones on Reddit right now. So good.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, no. There's, like, the original one, but I don't know, how are people like making them? Like, they just type of something. I think it's like an Apple website or something. You thought you, get the voices. We're jumping around so early, but I've been away for three weeks and I got to tell you I missed it. You're talking about what happened in Austin
Starting point is 00:04:06 with the cars, right? Yeah, bro. The AI driving cars. I don't see that. So I saw that. I was talking about there was like, they were having the race, but there was like people.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I mean, they looked like humans, but they were saying they were robots. They were like walking around normal and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy. That's marketing for a new, for a new movie.
Starting point is 00:04:25 No. I mean, I didn't know. I just saw it. It would surprise you. It would surprise you. It would surprise you. It's a problem. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:04:32 that wouldn't surprise you. I couldn't tell. They looked like robot? Yeah. They've been like NFL games and stuff, I think. Yeah, they've been everywhere. Yeah, they're in Dallas as well now. They were, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I just couldn't tell. I was like, look at it's crazy. And not to me, I didn't see this high-res videos on like Instagram, but. Yeah. Okay, yeah. That is crazy. It's kind of sick. It's called the creator.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Oh, wait, yeah, this is the movie. These are, these, all these people were vaccinated for COVID. I'm kidding. I'm joking. They say, beep, beep, beep. No, I think it's The fact that it wouldn't surprise you Wait, but they were really there
Starting point is 00:05:08 Like those were They really have those like models there They're humans With costumes on Oh, they're humans Oh, okay I'm just saying Those are actually robots
Starting point is 00:05:18 Oh, okay So that's what you thought They're humans aren't they? Oh, I don't know I thought they were Matt They're humans You have to be humans right
Starting point is 00:05:26 They're humans with costumes They're just acting Bebebeep You just get paid to act all day. You would have got me. Me too. But can you imagine you shake their hand and their hands is like unusually very strong? Well, I...
Starting point is 00:05:40 Cold? No. And he goes. I don't know. It would surprise me. It's the same thing that happened with the aliens in Mexico that they found in Peru, 1800 years old. Is that real?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yes, it's real. Where they showed the body and shit? Yeah. The two little tiny little humans or humanoids. Like this pig, you see them? Yeah. Listen, they got debunked once, but what got debunked was the original. This guy.
Starting point is 00:06:07 We're the original ones. That guy looks so checked. So these are the original ones. Somebody saw them or knew about them, and then they made replicas of them, right? And I think that they made replicas of them to see what the, what the human reaction was going to be to this discovery. And then Mexico says, you know what, it's enough. Enough. It's enough.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Then here's the real one. I mean, I don't know, but I would love, if it was real, that's dope. I saw, I couldn't tell, though, again. It's just another thing where I'm just like, I don't fucking hell. Yeah, yeah, same. And also, I didn't know what to believe. But I think we're getting to the point to where, like, they're going to be like, yeah, there's aliens. I mean, do you believe that there's aliens?
Starting point is 00:06:49 I mean, there has to be. Yeah, there has to be, I think. A universe is way too. I've always known. The universe is huge. It's way to. Yeah. It's just for us to be.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's endless. Yeah. So, like, the fact that, like, human noise or. human androids that you just saw how that didn't surprise you do you think we're going to be surprised if one day they're like hey press conference this is fucking uh uh alieno from uh planet wherever and he's like what's up we exist what's that movie paul yeah exactly like people aren't kind of care like people are going to be like oh yeah we knew it i mean you know it's like okay good to see you like what do you guys want here or like what do you know that we don't know
Starting point is 00:07:27 but I don't think that we'd be as terrified as we would have been back in the day well there's no technology I don't think so yeah we're kind of expecting it now yeah as long as it wasn't like some whirl the world's like fucking aliens where we're like going against them and shit
Starting point is 00:07:40 I don't want that then it might be GG if they seem like chill it's all good but if they start acting up they come with their fucking I don't even you see a shockwave just mercury blasters
Starting point is 00:07:53 yeah just wikwik the big booster Blasters? Hell no. No, I wouldn't. Again, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised about anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'm so desensitized to everything. Then I'm just like, man, another day in the world. Oh, man. But I did see that what you were talking about, the AI cars fucking causing traffic jam. Dude, that was kind of fucked up. That was like, imagine being on a street in a normal car. And you're like, oh, what can I do? It's just 20 AI driven cars just called in the craziest traffic.
Starting point is 00:08:27 traffic jam like sideways street and just like that game you gotta like move the cars it was it was yeah yeah it was on damn near sidewalk side streets that's one stuck in the middle one trying to get by that one were there people in the cars no no no they were like coming to pick people up i think that's what's going on yeah look at these house in texas right here look at they all got their blinkers on oh they're one of those like all the same car too yeah they're all the same car i think they might have been like those google like maps cars. He's parked out trying to pick someone up.
Starting point is 00:09:02 My question, my question, my question is, what if they were all called to that location because of some magnetic what do you call it? Anomily that happened the same way that it happened in
Starting point is 00:09:17 interstellar where all the tractors went to the dude's house to Matthew McConaughey. All right, all right, all right. That's such a good movie, though. I don't think so. Wait, why? Maybe, I mean, shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But you got to think they, like, it's on an app or something. Yeah, clearly. I just told and ordered like 20 of them at the same way. All to the same edge. Just to do that. Just to do that. Very possible. Next level trolling.
Starting point is 00:09:41 AI trolling. Yeah. So I've been going for three weeks. Have you told everybody where you've been? So tell us. Tell us to your journeys, right? You went to. World traveler.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah, I went everywhere, man. I mean. It started what? Like after Vegas? After Vegas? That's literally when it started. Up to Vegas. I went to Miami.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I went to New York and went to L.A. Stayed there for a bit just to do like, just with my friend from Australia. Went back to Australia for like two weeks maybe. And then I ended up going to Europe, which was, Europe is amazing. If you guys have never been, you guys have to go. Like, you have to. You have to find some time and just go. Just go for like a month in like two weeks.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Or like even. What about work? True, true. But I mean, just go for a month. What was the last time you went anywhere for a month and two weeks? Not doing work. Never in my life. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Never in my life. Never in my life. That's crazy. I mean. Do tell us. I got mine out of my way then. But no, yeah, so I went to Croatia. I went to Havar, a place in Croatia called Havar.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Amazing. It's like an island off Croatia. It's amazing. Beautiful waters. And it's because I speak the same language. So for me it was easy. So when I went there, I could speak with the people. So like it was easy just to like get around and stuff, which is really helpful.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Would you go by yourself or family? Family. My family. My family. My family. with my family yeah and um i went to greece mikonos which was wow like i went there for my birthday that was amazing i mean that place is probably like when it comes to like tropical beaches and stuff like that like nothing's better oh man the water days did you stay in those in those like white apartments that are like
Starting point is 00:11:12 yeah i stayed in a really nice really really really nice place staying like a villa okay it's my birthday so i just went a bit rogue so i said whatever i'm going to get this place treated myself good and then i went there and then i went to turkey went to instambul question yep You went by yourself to, you went with your family, but who did you party with? I had friends there. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My family don't fight it like that.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Gotcha, gotcha, okay. And then I went to Turkey, Istanbul, which is really nice too. The place is amazing. Went there. It has a lot of history behind it, really nice place. We've got to see, like, the Dopaman Palace, all this type of stuff, which is pretty cool. And then I went to Bosnia, which is actually where I'm from. So I went there with my mom and went to see my great grandma's house, stayed there for a bit,
Starting point is 00:11:55 and just get to see some of my people and stuff like that, which is pretty cool because I haven't been there since I was a little kid. But yeah, overall, man, it was good, good weather, amazing food. Really nice, man. I had a great time. Honestly, if you guys, like I said, if you guys haven't been, you have to go. How is it? Like, well, think of Europe is. Well, no, no, Bosnia. Oh, Bosnia?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah. Oh, well, Bosnia, it's a bit, so with Bosnia, it's obviously, like, how do I explain it? It depends where you go, right? It's obviously been, like, that country has suffered all. lot from war. Of course. So when you go to that country, like, you go to the main city there and there's literally bullet holes in like the city, like the buildings.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't even go to like, if you went to like the like the forest or something, like a, like there would be like, like mines and stuff. Like you can't, you can't go there. You know what I'm saying? Like that place is pretty, you know, been recovering from the war. But other than that, for me, it's amazing because I get to see like where I'm from and, you know, get to see like the culture and the food there is so good.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah. I promise you like, if you eat. the food there it would be probably like in your top top five really what what kind of dishes well like there's like it's like it's like a it's like a little meat thing it's like a little meat sausage thing it's so good it's amazing um we have like this bread it's called lepinao you see him swall he's mouthwatering right i'm legit licking my lips yeah oh my god is that a pito what is it yeah there's like a but if you are if you type in b-u-r-a-k i'm pretty i'm pretty sure it's called um but this is like chavapis this is like you see this everywhere but
Starting point is 00:13:29 these things like the way the way they make it i can't explain it it's it looks like it's like it's so good man it's and this plate we have this thing called buddak as well which is it's just amazing but we have so many different types of things and i just feel like european food is so much better than anywhere else in my opinion but um but yeah bosnia was cool it was really cool i got to see my great but the thing there which checked me out i have a story which is this story is disgusting right disgusting So I was in Turkey and I was I needed to go toilet so bad. I had caves seen in Turkey and I regret it. I regret it so badly.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I regret it so badly, right? Anyways. So we're having like, we're at this place and like you have to, you have to like, it's like a tour. And anyways, like half or three that's why I need to go to the toilet badly. Like I am sweating. Number two for sure. Like I am sweating dripping in sweat. Bro like I am begging to find a toilet.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So in Europe when you go to the bathroom, you have to have either, it's like a like a ticket. and you have to like tap the thing and the thing opens and you walk through to go into the bathroom right so when I got there I'm like I can go shit like but like there's no one there I'm looking around like did no one can help me get in I can't give anyone money to get me in so you shit outside the door no thinking about it so but I did some crazy shit ended up crawling underneath the thing and like like squeezing through it just to get to the bathroom I open the bathroom door I'm not even kidding it wasn't a toilet it was just a hole in the floor just a hole on the floor And you got it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 How big was the hole? It was big enough to fit. Okay. So you didn't have to be a sharpshooter. No, no, no, no, no. No, you could, yeah. Wait, a hole. Like, not like that big.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Like, as in like, if you, both your feet could fit in it. And, like, I could see, like, shit flying, like flies and shit. Oh. And I said, thank God I went. Like, I was really sat there. I don't really need to do this. Like, this is crazy. And I took, and I took two more.
Starting point is 00:15:25 steps and there was another cubicle and it was a normal toilet. Oh, thank God. But I'm thinking, damn, like, people use that shit. And over there, it's like, normal. Normal. And I didn't know that. So, I mean, it is the proper way for you for a human to poop is to squat and poop. That's why they invented the squatty potty.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah. I've only used it one time and it was Ryan Fizz. Ryan Fizz. Yeah. You got it for you? No, I was just at his place. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I used that shit. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. Really? Overroll was good. We have one. It's just like.
Starting point is 00:15:55 See, he has one. You have a bidet too? Yeah, I don't use that though. Is that the thing where you like the water thing? I always use that. I never used that. I never used that. I always used one, right?
Starting point is 00:16:07 No, I never have. But ants always like, I use that. It's the best. He's like, no. He's like, you never use one? I'm like, dude, no. Like, he loves that. You know, everything's so surprise to that dude.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Aunt wants one in his house. He likes it that much. No, he was with his house? Yeah. That's how you talk. That's stuff the best. That's the best. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So, all right. So you see the hole and you're like, let me just check. Imagine, at least you checked. Imagine you go and then you turn around and there's a toilet. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I would have been checked. If I sat there and I went and looked and what about your shoes? Like, don't you get splattered around your shoes, dude? I don't know. I didn't want to think about it. I saw like, I saw like,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I saw, like, there's no way I can do that. Like, I'd rather just do it in the corner like in a tree or some shit. I ain't gone there. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:47 that was like, that was something that checked me out, I'd be honest. All right. So then what, How'd you get out? I just ended up crawling back here. Do you're crawling?
Starting point is 00:16:54 Oh, my God. I could have jumped out. Honestly, would have pulled a muscle, I think. That thing was pretty high. So I just ended up, like, crawling and squeezing through, which is actually a tight fit. Wait. Oh, man. Did you take a picture with your phone?
Starting point is 00:17:05 No, no. Why? I was stressing out. When you were done, when you were done, turn around us to show the boys. I thought I committed a crime. I was trying to get myself out of there. Imagine that. A human right, right, to poop.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And you have to put. I mean, it's the same thing in Mexico. Like, you have to pay coins to get in there. Yeah. And I'm like, it's crazy. I didn't know that either. Especially if someone's busing, they don't know, and they just go there and they got nothing on them. It's chalk.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Dude. When you say, I almost fell in. What is it? Just like a, just have to pay to use a bathroom every time? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like preventative so that like homeless people don't go in there or drug addicts to go to that. Like I saw this thing where junkies were like cleaning their their needles.
Starting point is 00:17:51 on the toilet paper like they would take off the cover of the toilet paper you know how it's a big toilet roll yeah yeah they were like shove their needles in there and you see blood like oh my fucking that's what don't ever that's a dude never use that you go public bathroom you just did me justice thank you god don't don't it's over i'm never shitting in public again no you can shit in public just don't use just got to make sure i can what untinged a thing look at the toilet paper and shit yeah that's crazy you do that i bring wipes everywhere i go to that's not true my god, that's the dirtiest shit. Where, where?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Wipes or I can't go here, like there's some times. That's right, I can't go there. Chromatizing. But yeah, I saw that shit, I'm like, I'm glad I never fucking that's fucking. That's fucked up. It's dirty. The worst is at the airport, because you've got to buy the full diaper pack in order for you to get
Starting point is 00:18:46 the wipes. And you've got throughout the diapers when you, like, be able to donate them or something. The thing is Well, when you end up going to Europe and stuff, you'll probably have... I'm not going to Europe after the story you just fucking told me. Just don't go to the bathrooms. But make sure, like, honestly, like, there'll be two days where your stomach feels a bit sick, though. Because your food and the water, they're so different.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Of course. So you're not used to it, which I wasn't really prepared for. But it was like two days where I did feel a bit like, you know, not the best, just because I'm, like, I wasn't used to the water and the food there and stuff like that. They don't got bottled water there? No, they do. They do. It's just like... That's a must even in the United States.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You don't drink out of the foster. They were to, no, no, no, the thing is, it's just like, even just the normal water, you know? Like, your body just not used to, like, digesting, like, that type of water and that type of food. So then it just doesn't, you know, it's not really comfortable with it. When I went to Porta Viard or whatever, they were saying, like, when you're in the shower, don't let that water run in your mouth, you get sick. I've heard of that. I heard of that. I have, like, drink the ice cubes.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, you know when you have, like, like, there's a place in a stroke, like, near it called Bali. And, like, you can't even drink, like, the ice cubes, like, in the drink because that, even that, even that can make you see. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing about traveling that I learned. I don't think I could do that. Yeah, no, it's...
Starting point is 00:19:58 Well, you know, for season three, there's... See, three, idiots. So we just got done filming season two. We were in Chicago, the most beautiful city I've ever been to. I regret not having gone to Chicago more often than I did growing up. Because the 27 years that I was there, like, we would go there maybe like four times a year. Oh, to the city, city. To the city downtown.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gorgeous, beautiful. So every day we would visit three to five restaurants a day. Damn. For entertainment. That sounds fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. Until you are on your third day laying in bed. You can't move. Proped up because if you lay down all of the juices and all of the drinks and everything, like, bro, my heart, I had heart palpitations.
Starting point is 00:20:51 My heart was good. they started like ultrasound and I was like ah and I would get up and I would try to burp and I was like man I can't do this so starting like on the second day I was there I would go on a three
Starting point is 00:21:03 mile walk every single morning down Michigan Avenue all the way down to we stayed on Huron and Michigan Avenue which was the Omni and then I would go all the way past the bean all the way past like all that and then all the way back
Starting point is 00:21:16 and if I didn't do that dude I swear to God I almost quit twice during that that trip I was I was like literally Think about it, man. So much food inside of you, and it's not like you process it. Yeah. For one of the meals? Like three times.
Starting point is 00:21:28 We would get pizza every day. Chicago has, I heard Chicago has really good pizza. Deep dish, yeah. Nah, listen, that's not Chicago pizza. People, some people are going to get mad. He doesn't like deep dish. I don't know why. I've done it once.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Jude loves. I love deep dish. I don't like it like when it's super crunchy, but when it's like doughy in the center, ooh. Yeah? You can't move off to eat that. For some reason. No, you know, that's a huge fan of it.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah, if I was going to eat deep dish, you would have to be crusty on the outside. Anyway, we used to, we ate tavern-style pizza. Like, bro, every single, like almost every day. Like a bar pie? Yeah, like a regular pizza. You know what I'm talking about, like, bar pie? They're like skinny as fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, like New York style. No, not like... Thin crust. Not New York style. Chicago style. Matt, bring a tavern style Chicago pizza. Wait, isn't... Isn't like Rosati's like a bar pie?
Starting point is 00:22:21 What are you saying? I don't know what a bar pie is. I don't know. It's like super. Hell of a thing. Yeah, bar pie. It's like super. Left, left, left.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's like paper. Yeah, that's like what risotti's is. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Cutting the squares and shit. No, that's a good. I like that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Dude, you don't even fucking. Bro, I am telling you, every pizza spot that we went to like this was a fucking experience. Is it a hot honey, like fennel sausages? Way. Honey on pizza is that shit. No, you got to get fennel sausage and hot honey.
Starting point is 00:22:47 The combination is crazy. Crazy. Stupid. Yeah. Is it good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honey, honey? Yeah, like honey.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's insane. I had honey once on pizza because of Michael B. Jordan. I saw him tweet on, I put on an Instagram photo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit is far. Bro, it's like sweet and sour, but it's like, it's like honey. That's kind of like sound like I'm thinking of taste in pizza and honey. Fennel sausage.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That sounds good. And hot honey, but like hot honey. Is that like spicy? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. But it's like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So good. So we went to, obviously like Chicago has been the best food place that we've been to. I'm not just saying that because they're from there. And by them, I mean, Juan and Mike. Like I said, I'm from Wheeling, Illinois, 6-0-0-0-0-0. Ooh-oh. And we went to my pizza spot there, Joe's Pizza on Dundee and Wolf. Yep.
Starting point is 00:23:31 That's my go-to business since 1993. Well, we've been there since 1993. And every single time where they were fucking get that, it's so fucking fire. I'm getting hungry thinking about these. Fire. And to give you an example on a regular day, I'm trying to. to look but on a regular day we would go have breakfast at like a good spot and then immediately after that we have to film the lunch portion of that so we would have breakfast and have like a one hour break
Starting point is 00:23:56 before we we go to uh to lunch we would have lunch and then on the way back uh we'd be like oh yo there's a spot right here blah blah blah we're like all we'd get out we would do the interview we'd interview the people we'd fucking like it was a dope dope dope dope dope dope dope dope dope fucking show, right? Go to dinner. And then on the way back from dinner, we would stop for a fucking pie. No way. Bro.
Starting point is 00:24:18 You guys must be moving in slow motion. When I left my house before this trip, I was 206 pounds. When that came back, I was 210. Not that bad, but it would have been worse if I wasn't walking three miles. You'll lose that, though. That's probably a lot of the try waterway. I fasted for 24, for 24 hours. Water fast only.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And got down to like 206 again. And then we went to have dinner, me with the wife and the kid. And but I tell you, man, like it had to have been one, the sodium, the amount of sodium that we were having. The amount of it that we were having. And since I didn't, I don't drink, you know, I don't really, I'm not a drinker. This is like special occasions. And every single spot that we went to had like their drinks, their cocktails. We had to try.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We, it's for the show. I'm sacrificing this just this body. for the show. You know, I'm all about content. You got to hit the cabbage soup diet. What's that? Just make cabbage soup. Eat that three times a day.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's basically calorie list. It's all water. Clean you right out. You're shit in. It's all vegetables. Dude, I have no, bro. A lot of the stuff that we were eating was like all vegetarian. Like some of the places that went to, like, went to this one type.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I'm not going to give the names because you guys said it was a show, but there's this one Thai place that had the best papaya salad that I've ever had. Have you guys ever had a papaya salad? I didn't know that is either. Bro, a papaya is, you know a papaya is, right? So before it ripens, they shave off noodles off of it, and then they serve it with, like, carrot noodles, and then they have this, like, citrus, this, like, a little bit of spice in it, and then you eat that, and when you bite into it is, like, so crunchy that you're just, like,
Starting point is 00:25:58 it just wants some more. It looks nothing, it looks nothing like this. Okay, let me phrase that. Like this, but fancy. And this place was a hole in the wall place that was a James, Beard Award place. What's that mean? James,
Starting point is 00:26:15 look up the James Beard Award. James Beard Award is a culinary, excellence award of some stuff. James Beard. But right here. The James Beard Award is a foundation of awards and the annual awards presented by the James Beard Foundation to recognize chefs, restaurants,
Starting point is 00:26:35 or restaurant tours, authors, and journalists in the United States. Just a food award Yeah it's a food award Does Mago make like the idiots cut? No I feel like that's like a comfort Like you're back there
Starting point is 00:26:52 It's like Garibaldi's it's like Yeah Gary's cookies Well Pam asked me yesterday on the podcast He's like hey did you visit like all the old spots And I'm like no but What was it Lucky Monk? Lucky Monk We were just we were talking about that
Starting point is 00:27:04 Chicken sandwich brood, bro remember fucking Burrito King Or a breeder Express Oh the little white check Crazy, crazy, bro, crazy. It was the best hangover food ever. I remember picking up Shazam when we did the announcement. Yeah. When we picked them up, I was so hungover.
Starting point is 00:27:19 The second that we went there, I was cured. But anyway. Anyway, it was, season two is visually just going to be probably the best season we've had. The food was obviously, it's Chicago food. A lot of people are going to be like, well, why don't you visit here? It's Chicago. You can't, we crammed six episodes into 10 days. It was like impossible.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Like, I still feel the after effects. That would have been a lot of food. I feel like my esophagus is still a little bit open and some of the, the, the, what I call it, the heartburn? Oh, I hate that. That's the worst. It's been two weeks and a half. And I still feel that way. Arburn is the worst.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I hate when I have that. Yeah, dude. Man, Thumbs, if you're listening. I actually have some medicine for that stuff. That's, I just, it's not even Thumbs. It's not even Thumbs. It's not even Thumbs. It's not what it is.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's an Australian wine. I have to do it when I go home. My mom always packs it for me because I usually get it sometimes. Yeah. And dude, it's a glitch. I actually lose it within like 20 minutes. I know good, like good spots in, in Australia?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah? We have the best. I'm not even just saying this because I'm from Australia. But like even when I go to like restaurants here and Canada and stuff like that, even Europe. Like this is one of the like the high tea steaks is always like Australian Wagyu steak. Ooh. And like, we have the best beef in the world. Like that's fax.
Starting point is 00:28:33 From koala? Some kangaroo. No. No. I should protect it Yeah, yeah, I'm totally kidding You can't send to the chat room Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you should
Starting point is 00:28:43 Poor animals Um, poor animals Um, I'm kidding Yeah, so, stay tuned I don't know when we're releasing, Matt, do you know when idiot season two's coming out? We don't know either, but I tell you I actually can't wait to watch that, it sounds cool
Starting point is 00:29:00 Have you seen season one? I saw like two episodes, I think I only saw two episodes I haven't seen them all, but I'm definitely I've seen the first You haven't been doing watch parties of my show? Okay. I don't think I can, right? Yeah, you can. They're on my channel. If there are my channel
Starting point is 00:29:14 you can watch them. Oh, you uploaded them? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought they were only on Optic Nation. They go live on Optic Nation and then a week later they get released on my channel. Next season is going to release on Optic Nation and then two weeks later it'll be released on mine on my channel. So that's how the cadence will be. Regardless of the fact,
Starting point is 00:29:32 I love the show. I love the concept of the show. I got to paint a lot of graph, which is, you know, good for me. But it is, it is, uh, are like people hitting you up to come to their restaurant? Yeah, but we're not, we're, we're only going to spots that, that, that, that we want to highlight as, like, our favorite spots. Yeah. And the people that we know that recommend. We're not there to, like, judge, like a bad restaurant.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't want to be. You're there to show off like. Yeah, good food. Did you see the, did you see, uh, the bar still dude arguing what buddy else out? his restaurant
Starting point is 00:30:06 yeah shit's funny wait to get out the pizza yeah he said like get off the get off the
Starting point is 00:30:10 get off of yeah go fuck yes yeah wait was this recently or yeah like a month yeah
Starting point is 00:30:17 I don't think I've seen that one because I've seen the what's his name stool president yeah
Starting point is 00:30:22 that's what we're talking about doesn't he like kick him off the thing and he's like oh this pizza's a zero and he's like
Starting point is 00:30:26 yeah yeah he's like you don't know what you just did he said you're a fucking loser
Starting point is 00:30:31 no it's the guy the guy comes the restaurateur, he was about to give it a good review, too, the pizza. Really? Yeah, he tells me, he's like, I was just going to give it a good review. You know what? Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Because the guy comes out, he's like, he's like, hey, Dave, can you, you know, move down? I know who you are, but, you know, I think it's bullshit what you do by ranking, ranking a restaurant and livelihood of restaurants of independent blah, blah, blah, for off of one bite. And then he's like, what? I care about these, like small businesses. I raised $50 million during the pandemic to, to. See, I didn't see this. I saw this.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And I can confirm a lady from Bayonne, one of my friends that I play baseball with. Oh, God, they own the diner and apparently he helped them out. That's actually dope. People are going to be mad no matter what, man. What are you going to do? People like that, yeah, they just have summoned out for people, I swear. Like, regardless, like, if, let's just say he gave it a mid-review, it would have definitely boosted there. I mean, I'm not saying they need it, but, you know, it would have been still a good thing.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah. Yeah, he's not going there for bad. Yeah, he's not coming there to straight bash you. Yeah. He's like to make good pizza. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the other thing, right?
Starting point is 00:31:37 But maybe they just can't. Maybe they just don't have a chef, can't afford a chef, or maybe it's like a recipe that just like rings true to them and they like them so they don't want to get away from it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know, but no, we don't go there like with the purpose of rating or, you know, we want people to go to these restaurants to enjoy. And I take my shit seriously, right?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like if somebody goes to a place and they're like, yeah, it was mid, did you eat what I said to eat? You know, that's my fucking question. Somebody went, someone's like, Yo, I had the chicken burrito there. I'm a chicken burrito. What I'm a chicken burrito? Talking about shit.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Chicken burrito. Not my thing. So congratulations to Hitch, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Congratulations. I'm in order, 200,000 plus. Very, very kind of all of you to show up and help the cost. 100 plus.
Starting point is 00:32:26 That's crazy. Yeah, that is. That's crazy. That's typical. I don't remember what was raised last year, but it was not 200,000. That is insane. That's like one of the biggest. Yeah. That's really terrible, man.
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Starting point is 00:38:07 Just to show up, took a couple of pictures with the fans. I hadn't seen me. And immediately after that, I'm just like, I just want to spend time with Liv and Jude because I hadn't seen him so long. And I was just like, man, I'm going to see my boys like for the rest of the year. Like, nonstop. So anyway, super proud of him, man. That's an accomplishment right there. Yeah, shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:38:27 to him. Yeah, it was great. We'll see how next year goes, you know, bigger and better. What I hear. Call duty next and call duty better. Did you get invited to the Calduty beta? Well, fuck with me. Everyone, you're good.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Like, I'm pretty sure as long as you have a PS5 and you pre-order it, you'll just get. But you're going to Codnext, though. I'm going to Codnex, yeah. Why? Huh? Why? Because I've never been because, like, competing. I just never really, like, had any interest to go.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It was like, I'm going to get the game. now it's like I'm content now so I kind of have to go and like see what it's hitting for I mean I just got to go you know be a part of the event it's just a good event to go to as a content creator now so we're going to go we're going to do the damn thing it's gonna be cool yeah but see like the thing is with Codnex is it's only one day of playing and then we have to fly back and we're going to miss like the first day or two of the beta but like that first day or two I think so it's either a day or two days dude you can take the rest of the rest day or two of the beta but you can take the Red Eye wake up and be ready for 10 o'clock 10 a.m. Well, yeah, I don't know if what day or flight is to get back. I don't know if it's a day or two days. I don't know anything about it. You get to play the game before? You just making conversation, man.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Make conversation. Do you play the game before anyone else? Yeah, Cotton X is like the official reveal of multiplayer. So like they do like multiplayer, everyone plays then they do like a war zone segment. They show off war zone. I'm pretty sure they did war zone last year. Do you have anyone from a team going? Is it going?
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's me. Right now it's me. Me and. Get into silent. He's going to be doing like private matches. Everyone's going to be playing. He's going to be doing private matches. They're like jump spots and shit. Right now it's me and Zinian.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Okay. Are you going? No. Are you going? Are you going? No, no. I'm back to show. We don't get it.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I used to be on the list of like receiving like collectibles from them. Like I saw like people getting sandals and like fucking like don't pass call a duty shit. And here I am. After all I've done for Call of Duty not getting a single. And I was in the list. And I'm like also, like I'm an actual collector. You know what I'm saying? Of Call the Duty stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:33 The coolest thing that probably ever happened. It was when we were at 60, 50, 50, and then one day, I think it was ghost coming out or something like that. Or I forgot which game. And then we just checked the box at the front door. It was hell of the unreleased game that just came for us. Yeah. It was enough for everyone. I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. It was two days before, but still. Take that shit right up. That shit was always. There was nothing like those days. like when you had to go get your Xbox cracked so that you can play the game early. Oh my God. What did they used to call it?
Starting point is 00:41:05 You had the, uh, there's a name. J-Tags, J-Tags, J-Tags. I used to go to some black guy, bro, just in a garage and he would burn the seat. He did the Xbox for me. It was $5 a game. I'd go. He'd burn it. I could play the new cod like two weeks before it came out.
Starting point is 00:41:20 That's crazy. It's different from where this is back back. What do you mean? Burn it? How did it work? It was a blank CD. And then once I put it into the, the Xbox that it was J-tagged it would just load up the game that's crazy and five
Starting point is 00:41:32 but I couldn't like so what the only thing that didn't work is I couldn't hit the store or none of that but I could just play in a line join matches everything yeah yeah crazy in Australia like we used to like they used to be like um I don't know if like people I'm assuming people here did it too but we used to like the like the weather sold games and like the shopping centers yeah like the malls and we used people used to just sleep like wait for like that 12 way into it and they just storm the store and get the card and run And I used to always go to school and I used to beg my mom not to go to school that day. I used to beg her.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Like, I do not want to go. I need to get the game. Yeah. And she used to sometimes like, no, no, you have to go. But she'd take me out early and I'd sprint to that game store, bro. And I'll get the, I'll get the deluxe edition. Yeah, of a clean metal one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I have a chain, like a little clean, like a little chain. Yeah. I'll just in there playing that shit on the big ass TV. Yeah. Dude. Those are the days, man. Ah, dude, yes, they were. I only, I only stood aside once with my brother.
Starting point is 00:42:22 But after that, I started to figure out how to like. Just get it easy. How to get a J-Tag, get it easy. Like the late- More convenient. Yeah, dude, I had to go, when I did the notorious sniper montage that has way more views than anybody else's montage and optic.
Starting point is 00:42:38 The cod-for-one? No, the Mono Warfare 2. The one that you make fun of all the time. No, I make fun of your cot-for-one. Yeah. No. He picks you guys up. How are you going to tell me which one I'm making fun of?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Which, Matt. It's the cod-4 one, I swear. It's not cod-4. Which caught four? All right, pull it up. yeah I'm pretty sure it's cod four no
Starting point is 00:42:56 huh what's his what's his big that one right yeah yeah this one well I don't for it too
Starting point is 00:43:03 is like it was like the two hour clip is there no cod four in this oh
Starting point is 00:43:10 oh yeah you're right 12 12 was just right no I just so so that's I mean
Starting point is 00:43:17 I totally sorry me on time so I'm not I'm not gonna tell it again look at that crazy yeah
Starting point is 00:43:22 it's almost as crazy as well. It's like when I pieced you and maniac. Wait, he pieced you guys recently. And I didn't even know what game would play. If you put $100 on me and said,
Starting point is 00:43:34 what iteration of call duty is this? I would have not been able to tell you. I wouldn't have been able to say modern warfare. He's saying that's a new play and he still to be pieced you. He knows what he's doing. I know. Out of his shoulder got sniped. And then who was with me, Nick?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah. What are you bragging about? That's a good. Can I ask you a question? Let me ask you both. Shut up. Let me ask you both a question. When you throw a shoulder, do you do that, like, slowly?
Starting point is 00:44:00 I even hit the snake shoulder. I saw you did a quick one. I still died. What do you mean? It's a fast thing, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about how fast my reaction time was to kill the king. And also, to spot, to spot maniac, tiny little head.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Go like this. Yeah, that was a nice clip, though. It was. It was clean. It was nice. Kind of touched the control. in ages. Because Seth didn't do
Starting point is 00:44:23 like a burger like shoulder. He did a quick like snake shoulder I knew who it was too because I had just seen him kill someone I saw this kill for
Starting point is 00:44:30 once you saw the snake shoulder you were like what the fuck you never seen that I was like what's this nerdy ass shit dead who's this new dead?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Burger walking out and shit Rivers City's finest three three hardcore champion I don't need to River City's finest I wouldn't even consider that a good clip I was just funny
Starting point is 00:44:49 because they ended up getting tased after that shit oh yeah Oh, yo, that, that... That hurt? Yeah. You know, I watched that stuff?
Starting point is 00:44:55 That looked. I couldn't tell if it was like, it hurt. It was 10%. It just felt like... No, don't you... Bring them a 10% right now. Wait, what? So he's gonna... He wants to know how it hurt.
Starting point is 00:45:04 No, it doesn't hurt. It just like... You just like get a jolt. Like... What if I have metal? Oh, then you'll actually... You have no hair afterwards. You didn't play that, right? Bring two, Matt.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Like, what kind of feeling is it? Were you on there? You didn't play the shock collar. It's like... It's like a little like... It's like a... miss, but you just jump a little bit. It's not like, it doesn't hurt, but whatever it happens five times, it just shocks, like, I don't you mean.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Four times around. Like, if you lose around, you can. I saw you say something in the video, you're tweaking you, like, oh, I'm drinking water. Like, is it. Bro, if you, if you, if it's not tight, it'll magically just end up, like, hugging your Adam's sample. Yeah. Yeah. It kept happening to me.
Starting point is 00:45:44 If it was like on my Adam's up. If it's not tight, it'll, it'll like scroll down. Yeah. But no. I was, uh, go ahead, go ahead. Now, who I saw tweaking was redos. He was like, everything, he looked like a dog, like, he was like, oh. Dude, well, I was telling them, like, if we were in a 1 v4, I was just like, just high.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's not worth getting shocked. Just, just high. We just going to give me. Yeah. So, Maddie, Maddie is bringing a couple of two shock dollars. It's not that bad, but it's like, repetitively. It's uncomfortable enough to like, you don't want to get shocked over and over again. It was, uh, it was a fun video.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It was a fun video. It was actually a good watch. When I saw it on the call sheet, I was like, what the fuck? Do they got shot collar search? That's like what the fuck is it? It's just like a vibration. Like a dog collar. Oh yeah, you weren't in it either.
Starting point is 00:46:31 That's why Matt brought two. Yeah, why you keep saying that? What? What? That's pretty good. That shit is out of better. Yeah. Yo, this is one of the craziest news that I've seen.
Starting point is 00:46:49 What Matt gets those shot callers, this is one of the craziest news that I saw while I was away. The TSM stepped away from from LCS. That to me was like... That's like us stepping out of cod, isn't it? Yeah. That's like their name is TSM, which is League of Legends. Yeah, solo mid, yeah. I mean, that's fucking...
Starting point is 00:47:08 I texted you immediately. When I saw it, I instant sent it to Hector and I was like, what the fuck? I hadn't seen it until he sent it. I was like, oh my God, that is fucking crazy. So Shopify Rebellion is... Another e-sports team that sponsored by Shopify? Yeah, it was sponsored by Shopify. Oh, so they got some dough.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, yeah. Do you? Well, Shopify is like what everyone uses for, like, merch. No, but just because Shopify has cash, doesn't mean that they got cash. That Shopify Rebellion got cash. That's fair. Yeah, because they're a sponsor. That is a good point.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But they probably give them money, right? Some, but not, I mean, 10 million? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. But that's crazy to me. When I saw that, I was like, what? Because, yeah, it's just TSM, whenever you hear TSM, you think of league. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Well, now Apex, to be honest. Well, now Apex. Do you really? I don't watch League of Legends. I don't know anything about that. Well, maybe from the beginning, TSM has always been. League of Legends. I've learned nothing about that.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I mean, like, the Kings of Blue Lift and who is. Reggie, dude. Reggie. Who else? Double lift, uh. Biergson? Biergson. Biergson.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Like, they're all like synonymous with just league and Tijuana. PSM. So I was like, holy shit. That's crazy. Yeah. It is. It was a sore super surprise to me because even if Reggie and I don't know if he, I literally know nothing. I haven't exchanged conversations with Reggie in almost two years maybe. But aside from that, like I don't I don't know how he would have why he would allow that. I mean, he either got sick of the way that riot was treating his team or it had to have been something internal for him to be like, you know what man? Fuck this shit. It would have been a big issue.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I'm tired of being disrespected or something. I don't know. I'm not saying that I'm not saying I'm just speculating. None of the things that I'm saying come with any ounce of weight in terms of truth. I'm just speaking. But it was a surprise to me. And it's a, you know, it's a sign of the times, I think, you know. Times of like it's moving on.
Starting point is 00:49:12 The thing is this, right? The thing is this. There is nothing wrong with e-sports. Okay. when you go to when you when you went to the call duty champs was there a full stadium yes when you look at apex champs is there is there is there a crowd there yes it's a full stadium when you look at esports as a whole the viewership is there what is wrong with esports is how quickly people that invested money into this thing are getting their money back and because they're not getting their money back immediately or in the time that they were promised or they don't see any return on the investment right away they're they're saying well if the if the if If the finances aren't making sense for esports, then all of esports is fucked. When that's not the case, e-sports as a whole has no issues. If you look at e-sports, it never had the real chance to develop into what it should have developed as an esport.
Starting point is 00:50:02 It didn't have a chance to grow up organically because the amount of money that came into it right off the bat was just too much. They just wanted instant cash back. Yeah. And now that investors that put money in without doing any research into teams that had no following or teams that had like no potential growth. No potential growth. And they're like, well, where the fuck did all my millions go? Or like, I thought that you were going to say that you had a potential to give us like, you know, sales from sponsors and this and then ticket sales and all this. And they don't see that return immediately.
Starting point is 00:50:30 They're like, oh, fuck, e-sports sucks. When that's not the case, e-sports is good. Viewership's good. The attendance is high. The interest is still there. It's just how quickly people aren't getting their money back that makes them say that e-sports is a whole. Is there something wrong with the valuations of some e-sports companies? For sure.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And that gets tacked onto that, but just look at the viewership, just look at the people that show up, look at the conversations that are happening. And that'll tell you whether or not e-sports is happening right now. That's all I'm saying. But it is sad to see TSM walk out of there. Like you may, it'd be like Cloud 9 stepping away from the LCS. It would be like, like, who is it? Not fanatic. It would be like Navi, right?
Starting point is 00:51:14 It would be like Navi stepping out of a counter strike. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like it would have been. as if optics stepped away from Call of Duty which almost fucking happened not on my watch the Huntsman, right?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Oh my God, it did almost happen, yeah. Did almost happen? With infinite. In the ones to let go on the board. Did we tell that story before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy. Who do you?
Starting point is 00:51:36 No, it's, I didn't know that. Somebody put in an email on paper we're going to be looking to move the team somewhere else and I'm like, you're going to move fucking scope? You're going to, you're going to move Scump?
Starting point is 00:51:50 U.S. OU.S. Optic. I wasn't aware of it happening, but I was told later that it almost happened. Yeah, later later. They were trying to, they were trying to fucking. Can you believe you that? Where are they going to trouble with you?
Starting point is 00:52:02 To move to anywhere. He could have gone anywhere. He could have, everyone would have been like, yeah. But why they pretty much walked up to optic with a water gun and was like, give me scump. They got him. No, it was, they would have had the water gun to be like, take scum. Scumpt would have the gun to himself.
Starting point is 00:52:18 No, it was a... It was crazy. Yeah, the team. Were you checked? No, he didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know until like after the fact when he told me.
Starting point is 00:52:28 When he told you what happened? That's crazy, man. I was like, no. Hex quarters fucking was born and that's where they started playing out of. Anyway, long story short. That was, it was infinite, right? Like, it was towards, it was after, it was after MW 2019, right? It was like in that off season year.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Let me look at the... I forget. I think it was in like the off season. in year from end of the 2019 to when we got Optic back
Starting point is 00:52:53 going into Cold War which Cold War was next right? It was March 4th 2018 gentlemen
Starting point is 00:53:02 thank you for your continued correspondence on this matter. We feel that at this point despite our continued efforts
Starting point is 00:53:09 over the last two months and proven history in the past of accommodating salary demands contract negotiations with the Colorado Duty team
Starting point is 00:53:15 have come to a point where we do not believe that we can reach mutually agreeable solution. I was asking for too much. No, you weren't. But he wasn't. He wasn't. He wasn't.
Starting point is 00:53:27 You paid. I was asking him too much, man. No, it had nothing to do with that. It had to do. It had to do. They didn't want to deal with his agent at the time. And I was like, it was a Friday. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:53:38 It doesn't matter. It was March. I don't want to look back, but I can tell you that it was a, was a 007? No, we're not talking about that. All right. It was, it was on a Friday. And I went into the office
Starting point is 00:53:49 And I told I told people Like yo Give me until Monday I'm gonna talk to the agent This is not It's not gonna happen On my watch
Starting point is 00:53:55 Just give me some time On Saturday They sent that email And I was like I was fucking flipping Fucking a racetta On my grill And I'm like
Starting point is 00:54:02 Man just ruined my fucking tacos These Immediately I was like Whatever So I have to step up You were asking for some crazy No I don't think I was
Starting point is 00:54:12 No it was like 16 I was like 16 I think you were asking For 16 16 grand A month? A month? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 After MW. 2019? Yeah. No, it was just the upgrade. It was well deserved. Because we, it wasn't about, you want championships. No, it wasn't about him winning championships as well as the viewership that was coming in and the entertainment value that we offered the green wall. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I was only asking for 16. From what I remember, yeah. That's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not only. Back then, back then when everybody goes, getting paid $3,500 a month, that was a lot. 16 back then would have been insane. I'm almost certain.
Starting point is 00:54:49 that was 16. From what I've heard from what people get paid. Whatever. But yeah, I'm really sad to see that. When you text, I mean, I was a little bit sad and disbelief but it's the sign of the times, man. That's what,
Starting point is 00:54:59 that's where we're at. Matt, what's up with those chalk callers? No, no go? You got to charge them. Oh, thank you. Too much work. You guys locked out.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Thank you. Now you all that now. It wasn't that back then. You were like, I didn't do it either. I was thinking about the shit the whole time. I finally just got to leave. Now you'll never know. Big Zinn in the house.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Look at him. Finally beat that guy. Thank God. Yeah, we finally beat. We smoked that fucker. I don't know how I haven't been in my career. I got shit back.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Wait, you've never beat him? Whoa, says he's a good player on your ass. No, he's a... He's a... No, you can give his props now. He's retired.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Nah, yeah. He's not bad. He's not as bad as people sometimes give it to him, but... Nah, he leans into people, he leans into people like to hate too much. Yeah. That's why they run with it because they...
Starting point is 00:55:48 They know they get to do it. And yeah, it's like me whenever they call me a part-timer. It's like I give them like, like why the fuck y'all call me this? So they keep calling me because it's like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, look, I took off yesterday because it was Is's birthday Sunday. We were obviously playing in the tournament. And I was like, I was like, oh, Iz gets to watch Black Ops 2 all day. Happy birthday, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Oh, you actually. So I took off yesterday to hang out like the whole day. And that's and that's a very respectable matter. And I went into Zinni's chat and they were like, oh, part-time schedule strikes again. Yeah. It's like, bro, what are you all talking about, dude? But see, now I'm talking about it, so now they're going to keep doing it. They're going to, yeah, they're going to spend it.
Starting point is 00:56:25 They're going to spend it on them. Yes, yes, yes, yes. What's up with your boy, Chris Brown being sued for two mill? My boy. Some pop-up. I mean, he's cool, but. Did you take your baby mama to like a fish rock concert? Why do you keep saying I have a baby mama?
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah, he keeps saying that, like putting that on my jacket. He's got two, but he's one that he's, I don't got no kids. Dude, no kid. Mark, anyway, so he took his baby mama to a Chris Brown concert. I would never do that. Take it to a Chris Brown question. So apparently Chris Brown has owed the bank two mill for Popeye stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Like, you know what? He can clean it up. It has nothing to do with games, okay? We're hearing off the game. We only talk about games. I'm kidding. I don't know, man. Like, it's again.
Starting point is 00:57:16 He probably forgot, honestly. He probably just. Probably. He probably was trying busy as fuck. Chris Brown? He's not about 2 million. I mean, he's got to, we're talking about he's got to have it. He can pay that.
Starting point is 00:57:25 He could pay that off easy. What's the estimated? I wouldn't even know. No way, Chris Brown. I don't even know how the fuck he's still around after what he did. You never know. Maybe he's heard. You never know.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Dude. That's the thing. You never know. Sometimes people like you think there's just. There's a lot of fugues out here for sure. I definitely agree with that. Oh yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:57:46 No, either. I mean, he... No, not either. Well, actually, no, he got sued for $2 million. I thought he was, like, evading it. Never mind. He's probably got it. Well, what happened is that he got a loan for $2 million to buy a Popeye's franchise. Nobody else probably threw in the other half.
Starting point is 00:58:01 And he's not paying it back? Two million loan as well as taxes and interest totaling a staggering. He just never actually opened it up. Restaurants and failed to do so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They took a loan for something he never ended up using the loan for. Dude, I would have given him. He probably just went out or something.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Pupped a few bottles. He honestly probably probably. Yeah, he probably fucking went on a vacation bought a Super Bowl suite or something. What the most likely scenario, I'll give it back. I wonder what a Super Bowl suite goes for. Two million.
Starting point is 00:58:29 No, I'm kidding. Really? Probably, right? Two million? It's got to be. What I was going to say is I don't want to sound like I'm defending him. I've never listened to a single one of his songs from what I know about him.
Starting point is 00:58:39 He's done what he's done and I don't agree with it. So I'm not defending him. But more likely what happened is that one of his money manager said, hey, I think it would be a good idea if you open up, you know, diversify your shit, open up a Popeye's franchise, I'll handle it all for you. That agent goes off. He's like, hey, sign this, this is for the $2 million on
Starting point is 00:58:54 so we could get the Popeyes. And then he's like, all right, all right, all right, yeah, yeah, you handle that shit. And then just completely forgot about it. This dude didn't do the job that he was supposed to do. That's what most likely in my brain makes most sense. Because those people don't manage that stuff. No way.
Starting point is 00:59:07 No, I don't think that he's like, Christiana Ronaldo and like Leonor Messi, when they go to court for like tax evasion or like, like they ain't doing their taxes. Renato walks in there for suitcase. He's 10 million. I mean, like, just take it, and I'm getting at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Like, these people didn't handle that stuff. Yeah, now, as usually that goes. Like, nobody, nobody, what's the last time you fucking signed online to pay your light bill? Me either. Long time. I don't even know how much it is. I mean, I do.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Well, because you're a single, you're a single man. You don't have a partner yet. If you listen to your baby moms, bitch, which one, though. The one he takes care of. He takes care of. I saw it with,
Starting point is 00:59:50 Nah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, wait. Oh, boy. I think,
Starting point is 00:59:55 I'm just trying to it's gonna play something out. I was like, wait. Do I have a one? You don't know?
Starting point is 01:00:04 That's a problem. If you don't know. Anyway, I think, I think one of the, the, the greatest joyous in my life is doing this podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:13 So I'm really happy that I'm back. Chopping it up with you boys. You guys saw the four without me. I saw that you guys did. the one last week with a oh yeah trip me trippy hitch and yeah super good one so go check that one out it was really good it uh you check check it check it out it's really good uh ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for tuning into this podcast shout out to cash app legacy uh
Starting point is 01:00:31 match that's happening oh did we talk about the legacy match yeah we didn't talk about it that's shout out to cash app who's hosting a legacy match this sunday happening this sunday 12 p.m. What are the teams uh it's me bows damon and crim versus optic texas yeah i kind of get too you guys Hey, can you do my favor? Ah. Can you guys, don't fucking chalk them going into the fucking season, okay? Don't beat them too hard. They're lucky it's not Black Up Street because...
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm actually glad it's not. Because Brendan hasn't gone off that thing. Yeah, it would have been... Who hasn't gotten... Dashie. Dasch is still on it? He hasn't, he's been playing Black Up Street.
Starting point is 01:01:08 He's been playing... And he's on Y'L squad. Yeah. But it's not... But they went to Ghosts. And I know... And then this guy just got off of a MVP performance, so you know he's got some juices flowing.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I don't know about a child. I've been watching him. I'm gonna counter his shit and go. Yo, let me ask you, let me ask you how good did he do on stage? No, he did really good. Yeah? Like, I wasn't surprised. I was surprised more because how hard it is to actually play in that.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Like that you put the lay is insane. And when I was seeing, I'm like, damn, like I'm doing okay. But he was like 42 and 12. I was like, holy shit. Like, when you, like, you felt it too, like no matter what. Oh yeah. Even more, I felt it. Like, longer age is impossible.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Like, you have no chance. I couldn't see people. people like run into blue on slums. I would like fight them on the outside. Yeah, it was kind of hard to see him. Like when I ran in. Through the windows, right?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah. No, but what he did the crim was insane. I was expecting. Unexpress. Oh, yeah. I was expecting. And then Clay follow up?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah, then he pissed on Clay. It was bad. No, but that's CDF slums. Yeah, we were doing some crazy shit. 50s.
Starting point is 01:02:07 We were 14 kill streak? Huh? No. Did I say it? That was hot point. That was hot point. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Wasn't the slums? Yeah. It was a slums hop on. Slum's hard point was when I did that, but the slum CTF, we were going crazy. Meaning, like in the final. Like two KD. You had a crazy stop. Really?
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah. I didn't watch any of it. You had a crazy stoppage? Yeah, I called it too. I was like, don't trip. I was like, don't worry. I got this. Pull out the lightning strike.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Bung, bung. Killed one cop. It was so funny because I died and I'm like, damn. I was tweaking because I knew where I died, like, they're capping this. And I'm like, damn, like, fuck. And then he's like, I got this. I'm like, wait, what? He's the only one I love against all four of them.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I'm like, I bet. Sporn up, they just get blown to smithereens. I was like, holy shit. Excellent fucking kill streaks on that game. No, but Ghost will be, I feel like ghosts will be like... More even? Yeah, it'll just be, ghost will be fun. It'll just be fun.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Everyone's fun to play around the game. S&D on that game is like elite. Yeah, it's gonna be... Ghost is gonna be fun. We just need a G8 off 10. Is it best of 9? Best of 11? Do we even know what it is?
Starting point is 01:03:09 No, I don't think it's... Matt Craig probably knows. I feel we should... Where is it? We have to play bullets, but... Oh, Lincoln? No, Arlington. Is it open to the public?
Starting point is 01:03:15 No, I don't think so. I think we're just like streaming it. Okay. I don't think it's like a public. No, I think it's going to be on Twitch, yeah. Yeah, it's only, I mean, it's probably not going to be like, I'm thinking it's going to be like a best of 11 max. And then that's it.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And that's it. I love that shit. Or like best of nine, whatever. That'll be fun. I should be excited for that. Which game would you have not played in if you had, like, if you had a choice. Like, which one would you, give me one that you would have played in and the one that you would have said no to. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:03:41 I got the one I want. Which is ghosts. Yeah. But I wouldn't have played Black Up Street or Cold War. It's just, I got to deal with, like, somebody who's when Ant was playing and shit. I don't got time for that.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Mine that I didn't want to play was B. B.03, what about you? And then what I wanted to play was Ghost. Ghost also? Well, because B.03, it's like online. It's 200 FPS. You have to do, like, DS4. You have to, like, there's so many things you have to do for the game to feel, like,
Starting point is 01:04:10 normal. And I just don't want to do it. deal with that. That's not the game that I used to play. Yeah. So I'm not going to go up there and play a game. When you started saying DS4, I was thinking of a kill streak. I don't know what that is. We used to play on PlayStation. Yeah. Straight ground, running gun.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I wouldn't have wanted to play M.W. 3, honestly. I feel like our team on M.F3 would have got smoked. Yeah, MW3. Almighty got real. We got to a spot. I would have, I would have wanted to play Van God. I wish we played Vanguard. Of course you didn't want.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I'd be losing full on there. I mean, Krim played it, but like, no disrespect, but... No, I've just played Vanguard with you and Damon who haven't played a competitively, and then we played them on Boca's... Yeah, it would have been fair. Dude, yeah, I would have been tweaking. A Boca's hardpoint would have been insane. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:04:58 We would have been getting farmed. They would have been just running it down on Boca. Oh, dude. I'm the only sub that's played the game. I'm just getting farmed. Just sliding it just double sliding. Like, dude, oh, it would have been horrible. Bose is just trying to figure out where to go here.
Starting point is 01:05:12 That's what it would have been like... The Vanguard would have been a bloodbath. Oh, man. All right. I think it's a perfect game for it. I think Ghost is the perfect game because, like, it'll be pretty even. Yeah. There's probably going to be, like, a little input delay, so it's not like...
Starting point is 01:05:25 It'll just be fun. It'll be on PS4, Xbox One. Or will it be on... Hopefully, hopefully we don't have to use, like, the Krona's things. Okay. Matt? Hopefully. But even if we don't, I feel like it's still going to feel weird just because it's...
Starting point is 01:05:39 Obviously, PS 4. It's not. And it's like such a... Like older game. Yeah. Oh. I need a PS5 for the COD beta. Dude, buy one.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Wait, you still have mine, don't you? Yep. Wait, so why do you need a PS5 for? I don't. I don't go get it. No. I know that. I know that.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I need that shit. You're not going to play the beta on PS5. Don't trip. Which one comes out first? The PS5. Consul gets first. It's actually true. So we have the PS5.
Starting point is 01:06:11 live beta and it's like all like the eighth through the something and then the next weekend during Halo Worlds is the PC beta. Oh, we're missing that. Well yeah, Ant's coming with us too so like I already asked Ant to make sure we had like the, I don't think you're going with us are you? To where? To Halo
Starting point is 01:06:29 Watch party? A hundred percent. Oh, you want to watch party with us? Because right now it's me, maniac, aunt and Zinney. Oh, cool. I'm still coming. Well, we'll get a fifth chair if you want to watch party with this. Maybe just Friday. Because Saturday, Sunday, you know what I'm saying? It's like. But yeah, look at that. You think I'm going to miss dinners and fucking in Seattle?
Starting point is 01:06:50 I'm not missing no dinners in Seattle. You're crazy? Oh, dude. No, the dinners in Seattle are. And the Chronic's leagues. Dude, yeah. Seattle's like one of my favorite cities that we've like been to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Isn't it like need of water and stuff? I mean, I would. Yeah. Everybody told me it kind of looks like a city. Page, can you book him for Seattle also? That's where I proposed is. Oh, yeah. You did on the boat, right?
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah. Like, right, going out like in the channel. She was dope. Actually would have been a vibe. But yeah, so the beta starts on the 12th, which is Thursday. Yeah. And Halo Champs starts on the 13th. So 13th through the...
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah, so we're going to miss the whole second beta. But it's Halo champs, like... After the first weekend of the beta anyway, it's like, if you played eight hours or six hours a day, like... Same maps. You've done it all. Same maps over and over. You hit a sudden level we can't even level up in a year. You're good.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Dude, I... It's pubs too. You don't even get to play. Anyway. But playing the old maps would be fun, though. All right. Now it's safe to say that this podcast has concluded and it's come to an end. We're going to see you guys next week at the usual same bad time, same bad channel this weekend, 12 o'clock. Look at all socials.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Make sure that you tune into the legacy match to see the boys take on the new boys. We'll see you guys next time.

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