OpTic Podcast - SCUMP'S GOING TO BE A DAD |

Episode Date: March 1, 2021

This week on The OpTic Podcast we sat down with Hecz, FormaL, Hitch, and Scump to talk about having kids, the future of the CDL, OpTic Craft 2.0, Trash talkers in gaming, and the upcoming Pokemon Box ...break. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you could have one superpower, what would it be? For me personally? For everyone. What is weenie vision? I need to know what weenny vision. Please continue. You can see through your weir? Bun, weenie vision.
Starting point is 00:00:08 Hot dog. Dude, you're making no sense today. Seriously? Honestly, you're just fucking scaring me. Wait, no. Wait, wait, keep going. I have to know. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Welcome, welcome to episode number 14. 14. Informal is in podcast. Podcast mode. Podcast mode. Engaged. All right. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Groyd. What? Did he take it too far? Troyed that. What does that mean? What does that Troy mean? It's killing a joke, just running it straight into the ground and then continuing to go down like you're going to level 11 for diamonds. You killed it. That was kind of a Troy. That was kind of a Troy, right?
Starting point is 00:00:50 Like, he didn't even want to give you an alpha. Like, I'll be laughing in shit. There's a pandemic. Like, I'll say some fire ass joke. And then everyone's laughing in the TS, like, because that's the nap's loading. And then like, we're just like the countdown's going like 10, 98. And Troy, like, tries to chime in. He's like, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Totally. And then like, we'll be like. Oh. Cool, I'm gonna go plat. Like, you just lose your smile completely. True. Let's try to break the hell. Anyway, new week, new podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:14 We just went through Snowmageddon. We haven't talked about that in this podcast, have we? Snowmageddon. Snowmageddon. Yeah, that's what Maddie came up with. And I actually messed with it. Matt Craig? Yeah, he's creative.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He's waving now. Okay, so we have here. All right, here's the, who wants to read this week's comment section? Bethy, go ahead. I mean, he was giving it to you. But I would like to. Okay, go for it. Go for it, man.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Oh my God. What? Yo, did you see that ballist life retweeted your dunk? Yeah, as they should. Yeah. You have skills. That behind the back crossover was insane. I was afraid I was going to bang my head off that, the back of the wall.
Starting point is 00:02:00 You don't jump that high. Oh, the wall. That's nine feet regulation. Yeah, I know. Yeah. You're a beast. Comments. W.P.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Question for the next podcast. Do you think the league size barrier to entry for grassroots teams and CDL structure as a whole have made it overly commercialized? That's what you guys pick? Why would you guys pick that comment? God. I think everything's perfect and it's going great. Question for the next one. Do you think the league size is a barrier to a church?
Starting point is 00:02:29 I don't even know what commercialized means. It's what plays in between link to Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. What the fuck? I know what those are. It's the art of making commercials. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So it's like ad-friendly. Yeah, sure. What is? And the other one, the other one comes from Yang Gupta. And it's, what's the best trash talk someone's ever said to you? Oh,
Starting point is 00:02:51 that's a good one. That is a good one. I like hearing these answers. Best trash talk someone's ever said to me? Ever. Or like, have you ever been playing and you heard them screaming and it got in your head? Or like,
Starting point is 00:03:00 has somebody ever said anything to you across the table? And you're like, ooh, that actually stung a little bit. Not really. So you're two wits for your own good Not really I can't remember
Starting point is 00:03:10 There's no good shit talkers and con I was about to say this I mean we also can't normally hear them Like when we're on stage You can't hear people That's why me informal at champs We were like We had to like you know
Starting point is 00:03:22 Everyone thought we were screaming shit We were just lip syncing shit Yeah I mean we were screaming shit as well But like you you can't really hear Across the stage So it's really only applicable At like the side stations
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's what you have to point of people So they know Yeah Has anyone ever says like, yo, why would you pointing at me, you weirdo? Has anyone ever, no, they know when I'm pointing at them. Yeah. Oh, shit on them. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah. And you're like, you're like, you lost because of you. They're feeling so bad about it too. And they're looking at you like smirking because they're so salty. Oh, that's the best when they're just giving me that salt, they're like, and you just know you just outflow them. It's like when a boxer gets punched in the head and then they go like this, didn't hurt me. But they know I did. Otherwise, they want to sit shit.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah. I'm not hurt. Is he think what you're saying to me hurts? I mean, it's kind of like, what are you going to do at that point? Everything's been said. We've been playing against him. You're either a pussy for saying something or a pussy for losing. There's no way of going about it.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's not about that. But when you were saying there's no good trash talkers and cod, is that because they were good in Halo? Yeah, Ryan Newbe got in my head a few times. Really? In Dead series. Ryan New? That kid was the most annoying kid I've ever played against by far. That's-called closely by like goofy maybe.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Them team, they went on the same team. Faisal? Yeah, dude. Oh, my God. You can ask Nick. dude this kid oh my god because he would just be
Starting point is 00:04:38 because he would he's still in my head he's still living up dude because like when we played you were just wearing Astros like next to each other basically on main stage
Starting point is 00:04:46 like you could hear what they're saying right right and fucking this kid would just be screaming about anything he'd be lying right he'd be like
Starting point is 00:04:53 literally screaming like like fucking like I just ninjaed him and you're like what? No you didn't you just want to stand up no your teammates are hearing that like you just got ninja
Starting point is 00:05:02 yeah yeah like he would just be like dude Every single kill. It was just, and he'd just be losing, just fucking screaming. It's so annoying. Yeah. And just, oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:05:13 My hat's off that guy. Hats off your hat. He was so cringe, but it was so, so good. Let's see it then. Was there ever like an intimidating? No. It was just annoying. Not from him, but from other people in Halo.
Starting point is 00:05:24 He's got good hair, too. I tried. It was just, it was so fucking annoying, bro. And then him and goofy at the same time, both just screaming. Because I think, I think I was talking to Nick at the scuff house and he said, He said that whenever the twins would get in lunch. Yeah, whenever they would get going. I thought you were talking about the Suttists.
Starting point is 00:05:43 No. There are a lot of twins. Warheads. That's the one. I remember they'd just be walking around passing out warheads. Have bags of it. Hell of bags. A lot of twins in Halo, yeah?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Three sets? Yeah, one over two. Damn, that's crazy. Launchbox Roy and Elamite Warrior and Ace. They're twins? twins with the brothers a lot of brothers they're brothers they're singing and they're bringing
Starting point is 00:06:10 and they're hmm hmm hmm I can't what was it called with the Damon Damon Wayans and Marlon Wayans the what was it called God it was such a good show the Wayne's brothers yeah it was called the Wayne's brothers oh yeah wait really
Starting point is 00:06:26 yeah it was fucking you know have you seen it's so good I always sarcastic Wait was it Wayne's brother it wasn't it Wayne's world No, Wayne's World is the Excellent party on a repressan. I'm thinking of something different then. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Song or movie? What? I was talking about a TV show in the 90s. Yeah, I know. And then I thought you were talking about Wayne's world because I heard Wayne. Well, it's Wayans. There's two, yeah, I get where you're coming from.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Bruce Wayne. Like Batman. Little Wayne. I've seen Little Wayne. Like Bruce. Wayne Kretzky. Yeah, hockey. Wayne, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Hockey. That's what we did with my class time. Like the only hockey player, I think I know. With Mike. This is what we did with my class time. Jackson, Michael Jordan. Mike, Mike. He's like, holy shit, there's so many mics that are good at it.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Mike and Ikes. Yes. Underrated. The candy is underrated. Dude, right? You think so? It actually is underrated. I'd say so.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I love Mike and I. You know what's really underrated? I forgot the name of it. Take fives. Take five. Never heard of it. Those aren't that bad. I've had them.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, they're pretty good. What are they? They have a pretzel in them. Chocolates? You rarely find one in like your Halloween bag. You'd be like, ooh, what's this? And then you eat it? and you're like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So. So, Seth, you come from Pennsylvania. Can't wait for that. You come from Pennsylvania. Grew up in Pennsylvania. Drove in Pennsylvania. Drove in Chicago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 All of a sudden, a little snow falls in Texas and you can't drive. What happened? I mean, my car is just not able to drive in the snow. Usually, if I had my fusion, that would have been no problem to drive it. Don't rely on. The White Stadley. Now owned by Renato Saints. He has my car.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Oh, does he? Yeah. I was wondering where Nick and his car went. He loved that car. He was like, give me her. And I said, what? For the first year, Nato had his car. Nato would be like eight's calls.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like, dude, fucking whip is so clean. I'm like, dude, I know you have sets four. Fuget. Yeah. Don't, I think you bought some new car. I'm not nice. What? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Reliable for sure. Definitely reliable. Four wheel. No. In this terrain? You sound like you miss it. In the cold weather, yeah. You should trade your car that you have now with your old car.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And get three of those. Get nano. That's not how it works. You switch with nano. Yeah. That'd be a good bargain for you. I tried, man. I tried.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Now, how many miles do you have right now? 36,000. On your car right now currently? 36. I have 36 on Nate's wagon, which still has a license plate that Nate gave it, sold it to me in.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And I'm running like, I'm just running. Just riding dirty. Yeah, I'm riding dirty. And I'm hoping that one day he's going to receive a message from the Texas Department of Transportation
Starting point is 00:09:03 I'd be like you owe $1,500 in tolls. That's fucked up. Got you prank. Yeah, he really socked it to him. It just like some rich friends prank type of thing. That's like detrimental to most people. I wanted to get like 15K and like fucking like that's hilarious. Weird.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Weird. Hector was talking about how he paid off the delivery guys and he did this motion. I didn't. They cost a pretty penny though. You did. Bro, so Brandon, you're throwing your front of the bus here because you know he's going to have to explain the story and now you're throwing your friend under the bus.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You should have thought about that. No, you are. It's messed up, right? I need to do that to you. All the time. I need to keep track of his weird flexes as well as everyone else. As long as this is not detrimental to the team. It's not.
Starting point is 00:09:51 All I'm saying is that I'm out here. It's like when you killed me in Minecraft, trying to help you. That's what's happening right now. I was trying to help a teammate. No, you were trying to help. Bruce. That's a teammate.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Not me. It's a teammate. You just said trying to help me. See, there's no eye in team scump. There's an eye and win. Which is crazy because there's two eyes and scumpy. Damn, there are two eyes and scumpy.
Starting point is 00:10:15 The last day is Michael Jordan. That's where I learned that. There's two of them. There's two eyes and scumpy. That's how much he loves himself. Here. Give me this stuff. You can't even take it for me.
Starting point is 00:10:26 If you want to do paper cut, my season's ruined. That is also true. This podcast has been all over the. place. He had a cat and he named it skump. Just think about that. Rest in peace. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:38 That's a cat. He literally was like, I'm gonna just call it skump too. Like I'm just, Skumper. I'm skumper. Skumper. Wasn't you one of your time?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Skumper. Cumber. What are you doing? I didn't name it. Scump. Yeah. Okay. Skumper is better.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. What? Skumpur. Skumpur. P. P. Oh, you fucked up. You fucked up.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You should have named it scump per. P-U-R-R. I did. You should have done that. Yes, I did. It's too late to start on Instagram. Scum-pur. Yes, I did. That's fucked.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So fucked. No, it's not. Rest in peace. Caddy. Yeah. What happened? Which, which Fortnite Pro quit?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Which Fortnite Pro? Which Fortnite Pro quit on teammate? I can't talk about it. A Fortnite Pro quit on his teammate mid event? $20 million event. Wait, what's the context of that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 No, I don't know. This is what they just throw letters like words into this. How old was this person that quit? I don't even know if this is like recent. Because most of the kids in Fortinite are what like 16 to 18 on average? Yeah, I don't know what money is. It's like a.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, if I was 16 and 20 million, I would know what that was. That's 20 million. 20 large. There's no way it's a $20 million tournament though. Yeah, where did that come from? Is that like their worlds? their big one?
Starting point is 00:12:02 What? Like they're champs? Just explain it. It's an actual tournament for 20 million and his friend quit on his teammate. Dioos? Mid tournament. It's now when you say $20 million,
Starting point is 00:12:13 it's a $20 million price pool for one event? A season. Oh, okay, it's a season. I mean, that's... This bullet point's just going less. That's quite a bit of cash. That is.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I don't know. Look, I bet you they're not boys no more. Unless there was a reason. I don't even know. His power went out. Again, there's like, here's... I think he just left him. I mean, it's a whole season.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And his power's still out? And he still can't tell him. Like, dude, my power was out. Everyone's sitting there talking shit for like four days? He got canceled. He can't defend himself because he's got no... He's got no power. He's sitting there next to, like, handle it right now?
Starting point is 00:12:48 That's fucked. If, unless he has a reason. He has no reason. I need to know the reason or else. I just can't even respond to this bullet. Yeah, no, we, uh, the thing about this, about these bullet points is that I literally, right before we started the podcast, I saw them, like, writing. shit down really quickly.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Like, it's like, yo, guys, let's huddle together and talk about something recent. God bless. Thank you. Minecraft, uh,
Starting point is 00:13:09 here are the topics. Just so you guys know what the topics are, okay? Minecraft, I'm gonna read them exactly as they read. I don't even need topics. I know, but I'm gonna read them for you anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You should do no topics. Minecraft opticraft. CDL Super Week. How the Hecks Quarters is packed. Now. Is that what you said? I'm down. Uh,
Starting point is 00:13:26 PS5 VR 2, Future of VR in parentheses. It's a fucking YouTube title. All of a sudden. And Ninja confirms $100 million. Can we get a verification that he said himself? I doubt that Tyler's like, yeah, I made $100 million in gaming. A hundred million?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah, that's what he said. This is what, for the record, anyone, Jake Lucky and anybody else is going to take some of this to make a video? Don't know. Anybody that's going to steal exactly what we're talking about. He's just throwing in their videos. Jake, I'm talking to you. Jack. A hundred mill?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. I, listen, just for the record. I'm saying it right now. Optic Gaming Podcast is not saying that Ninja confirmed there's $100 million because I know he didn't confirm that. No one would confirm, I would confirm that.
Starting point is 00:14:12 No one would confirm that. No one else would confirm the fact that did that. So what wrote this? No creator would, no creator would confirm that. Roger gosh darn it. What I got that shit? Would you have been mind blown? Yeah, I mean, yes, because it was all the way over there.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I would have been mind blunded just because So far away. What? We always talk about how you go from the paper up and just throw it. Yeah. Okay. Well, we do need this. We need...
Starting point is 00:14:43 We need... Put it back. We do need this piece of paper. Okay, so let's talk about Minecraft off the craft a little bit. Okay, so it took... It took... No, it did. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Let's get something... Diamonds. All right. Let's read. Let's read back in. Just really quickly. We're right. Let's read.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Let's really have to build a boat Let's reel it back in What? Yeah Is it just wood? I thought there were sticks No, it's just wood This was planks in the U shape And how to build a bed
Starting point is 00:15:14 What is it? Three planks, three wool Yes sir Can you use different color wool? Yeah, no you cannot Yeah, you can Yes, you can No, only on the pillow
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah I just lost composure Yeah, exactly. Don't you, Roger! Here we go So really quickly It took close to Seven years to get you to play Minecraft
Starting point is 00:15:39 It actually took that because we were playing in 2013 And I would refuse to play it Why? So are you saying Mainly because Maybe the friendship level Now Well I would say mainly A because I didn't want to take the time to learn it On stream and get roasted for trying to learn it
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah Which is inevitable And that's part of the allure Yeah the spectators want to help Right? Well, even when you know Minecraft very well, it's still the most backseated game I've ever played. Yeah, it has to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But so that was one of the main points. B, I obviously didn't want to get roasted for competition because, I mean, back then. I mean, I would say, I'd say we probably got roasted back then more than we do now. For sure. You guys got annihilated. I play Minecraft now, and like, I haven't really been receiving any, like. I think people get it. For some reason, people get it now.
Starting point is 00:16:31 People just got out of that phase of hating Well to be fair Minecraft in Minecraft in 60-50 was more of like a It was more of like a thing Like you guys did Minecraft Now it seems like you guys are playing Minecraft To get to relax after streams
Starting point is 00:16:46 And people love that Yeah or scrimms, sorry Because people love watching you guys scrimm And knowing that you guys were screaming scrimmed They were like canceling scrimmed You're like I don't know about canceling But you guys were like waking up to play Minecraft You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:58 It seemed like a priority And not Scrimmns ever and I hated that people like said that shit. Well you also got to understand like at that time our fans were like, you know, 14, 15, 16. And then Seth was like three years older than them maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Where now everybody's grown up like the majority of the green wall. I am very confident in saying it's literally the youngest like segment of that has to be like 1819. Yeah. You know what I mean? And everybody else is like 18 to like 26. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Like the way. The amount of yeah. There's still younger kids like what? There are young kids, yeah, but I bet you the optic, the majority of the optic fan fan group or fan base is probably in that area. And when you're saying kids, you're talking about like 16, 17 year olds. I'd say, I'd say like 14 days. Are there you think?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. Especially back in the day. I look at the data and I said like very, very, very small group. But you also, like we're going to get to the, what is that, Maddie? Thank you, Matt. Look at that. We got our own Maddie. Well, that's also.
Starting point is 00:17:59 1.2%. 1.2% is 13 to 17. 18 to 24 is 38%. 25 to 34 is 46%. 35 to 44 is 9%. 45 to 54. Shout out to them. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yo, shout out to the 65 plus that make up 0.7%.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Those are my men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And women. So like I know, I know like now because I get, I get messages sometimes with like, yeah, I was like, when are you guys going to put out like baby clothes or something? because our fans are now having to have kids. That's crazy. You know, who do you think?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Who is, like, I always, I always, like, talk to Jude and I try to speculate who's the next, like, besides karma, who's the next person to have a kid? No. No. No. No. No. No. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:18:45 No. Why are you saying it so confidently? No children for me. I'm about this fucking grind. For how long, though? Were you 24, right? Yeah, I still got plenty of time. Wait, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:18:55 25. 25. I always knew. I always knew. from the beginning of time that my first kid was going to come at 29 and she did 29. He's still going to be next though. Yeah, he's still going to be.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He'll still be next. I think Nick's going to have an accident. Fuck no. Well, I don't think so. It's impossible, it's not impossible, but it's very,
Starting point is 00:19:12 very hard to maintain, like, especially my schedule with a kid. There's no way. I wouldn't be able to, like, be there at all. Yeah, that's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I would be like, I wouldn't be able to be there. It's literally wake up. I'm either content day, stream into scrims, through the day. That's it. Like, that's every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So it's like, But that's everybody in the world, though, too, though. It doesn't mean you're not next. It just means you're real prepared. Yeah, so. You might still be next. If you think about it, think about how many people wake up on a daily basis at six to be at work by eight or nine, right?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Or, and to get their kids to school. Like, everybody works those eight hour days. Well, yeah, but having a kid, that's different than having a six-year-old that you drop off at school every day.
Starting point is 00:19:52 True? Yeah, I mean, they start out as babies. And they only, they're not babies forever. No, No, they don't.
Starting point is 00:19:58 What do you mean? Of course they start off as babies. You think I'm that stupid? No, I don't think you're stupid at all. Wait, has I was in Benjamin Button? Yeah. How does that movie start? I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I know the concept though. He starts out. It's like a, like, a, like, is he just like, Spond? Yeah, how does he spawn? He gets birthed by a woman? Yes, by a woman. And she just, how tall is he?
Starting point is 00:20:19 It's a baby, but he's a baby. Oh, it's a baby. But he's wrinkly? Yeah. And then he grows up as an old person. Like a little Voldemort? Yeah. And then he shrinks. It's like a diamond.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Imagine being a three-year-old, 94-year-old? Did you say diamonds? Imagine being a three-year-old in your head, but you're 93 in your body? I mean, essentially, it's the same thing. You can't really walk fast and you're still trying to, like, grab your balance before you get to a certain age. That's crazy. But I guess do you meet in the middle? Like when he's 34, what's he?
Starting point is 00:20:47 He's 34, yeah. Yeah, that's dope. And then he falls in love. Well, I guess when he's 50. And then he becomes a child. Right. When he's like 40, he's like actually his age. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And then he. He gets like that one spot. That one little tight. And then he falls in love. And then she's like, oh shit. She's going to opposite. They're going opposite.
Starting point is 00:21:03 She's getting older. Right? So as she starts. I've never seen that movie. I'm going to watch it again. I saw it one time and it was really weird. Yeah. I got to watch it.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's weird or is it good though? You should watch it. I don't know. That was before I like appreciated films. I just kind of went. You should watch it. As date nights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 In high school. You don't know, no deposits with Lex. Deposits? That's what you're calling that? What the fuck? You might want to reword that What you make a deposit you get ROI right? Oh, you're talking Oh my god What? What's what it's called? No no no
Starting point is 00:21:39 Seth he's next Deposits One sets is popped out then then Dude Matt love that once once I Once I Deposit Once I've always since high school I've called it that is it pro create? Yeah once I pro I procreate this world is fucked
Starting point is 00:21:54 Why? Why? Because imagine two of me It would just be you. What if it's a female? Oh, my jeans would take over. Imagine? What? Are you saying you have a daughter with a bunch of testosterone? It looks just like you.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah. You have a daughter that works out and it's just... You think his jeans would overtake mine? Yeah, I think so. The trolley jeans? No shot. I mean, I don't know from... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about... I don't know from a personality perspective. maybe that you could overtake, but I don't know. I don't think that your dreams would do that because they skip,
Starting point is 00:22:32 sometimes they skip generations. Yeah, I don't know. So your kid's going to be like super shy and quiet. Yeah. I think Mama Scump is ready for to be Grandma Scum. No, she's not. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I don't think she is. Take that back. Jordan, wait, are you going to have babies before Jordan? He's 30. He's like, he's 32. So are you an uncle 21? No. So Buzz is your only son and the cats are whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Don't call Buzz his son. I've been in that household. He's not his son. He runs that shit. He's like a stepbrother. He's my. Oh yeah. He's bad.
Starting point is 00:23:07 He's not bad. He's a good. It's like when I try to explain. When I try to like make an excuse for Seth, I'm like, he's a misunderstood boy. Buzz is not bad. He's an innocent boy. He's a good boy. He's just unruly whenever he's excited.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Have you talked? There's no. There's no controlling him when he's hype. Yeah. I mean, I often have, like, restorations about asking these questions because, like, I don't know if you guys, like, have you and is talking about kids or any of that?
Starting point is 00:23:33 No. Have you and Lex talking about kids? Absolutely not. Not really. Can you imagine? It comes up. Like, she'll be, she'll be, like, doing her makeup and then she'll do her, like,
Starting point is 00:23:43 his or her makeup. And, like, think about how that is. I mean, that's definitely going to happen. Yeah. For sure going to happen. But, I mean, as long as that's, I don't know. Bro, just imagine how creative your kid's going to be. Like, with her creativity,
Starting point is 00:23:53 your creativity, good kid. Very, but possibly could be too much. Like the kid's just up in the clouds all the time. What? Maybe. Just thinking about, like, thinking about crazy shit, but can't fold close. You know what I mean? The fuck out of the school.
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Starting point is 00:27:34 So that's what it is. I mean, you can just display that shit. I mean, toothbrush here, toothpaste here, mouthwash. If you could have one super power, what would it be? For me personally? For everyone. What is weeny vision? I need to know what weenie vision.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Please continue. You can see through your weenie vision. Hot dog. Dude, you're making no sense today and you're just, honestly, you're just fucking scaring me. Wait, no, go, keep going. I have to know. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Welcome. Welcome, welcome to episode number 14. 14. Informal is in podcast. Podcast mode. Engaged. All right. Welcome. Troy. What, did he take it too far?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Troyed that. What does that mean? What does that Troy mean? It's killing a joke, just running it straight into the ground and then continuing to go down like you're going to level 11 for diamonds. You killed it. That was kind of a Troy. It was kind of a Troy, right?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Like, he didn't even give you an elbow. Like, I'll be laughing and shit. There's a pandemic. Like, I'll say some fire ass joke. And then everyone's laughing in the TS, like, because there's an app's loading. And then like, we're just like the countdowns going like 10, 9, 8. And Troy, like, tries to chime in.
Starting point is 00:28:44 He's like, yeah, dude, totally. And then, like, we'll be like, I'm going to go plat. Like, you just lose your smile completely. True. Like, let's try to break to hell. Anyway, new week, new podcast. we just went through Snowmageddon.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We haven't talked about that in this podcast, have we? Snowmageddon. Yeah, that's what Maddie came up with. I actually messed with it. Matt Craig? Yeah, he's creative. He's waving now. Okay, so we have here. All right, here's the, who wants to read this week's comment section?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Sethie, go ahead. I mean, he was giving it to you. But I would like to. Go for it. Go for it, man. My God. What? Yo, did you see that ballist life retweeted your dunk?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah, as they should. Yeah. You have skills. That behind the back crossover was insane. I was afraid I was going to bang my head off that, the back of the wall. You don't jump that high. Oh, the wall. That's nine feet regulation.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, I know. Yeah. You're a beast. Comments. WP. Question for the next podcast. Do you think the league size? barrier to entry for grassroots teams
Starting point is 00:29:57 and CVL structure as a whole have made it overly commercialized. That's what you guys pick. Why would you guys pick that comment? God. I think everything's perfect and it's going great. Question for the next one.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Do you think the league size is a barrier to... I don't even know what commercialized means. It's what plays in between the Super Bowl. Oh, what the fuck? I know what those are. It's the art of making commercials. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah, yeah. I watch a lot of love. So it's like ad-friendly. Yeah, sure. What is, and the other one, the other one comes from Yang Gupta,
Starting point is 00:30:28 and it's, what's the best trash talk someone's ever said to you? Oh, that's a good one. That is a good one. I like, I like hearing these answers.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Best trash talk someone's ever said to me? Ever. Or like, have you ever been playing and you heard them screaming and it got in your head or like, has somebody ever said anything
Starting point is 00:30:43 to you across the table and you're like, ooh, that actually stung a little bit. Not really. So you're two wits for your own good. Not really. I can't,
Starting point is 00:30:51 I can't remember like, there's no good shit talkers and coffee. I was about to say this. I mean, we also can't normally hear them. Like when we're on stage, you can't hear people. That's why me informal at champs, we were like, we had to like, you know. Everyone thought we were screaming shit. We were just lip-syncing shit.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. I mean, we were screaming shit as well, but like you, you can't really hear across the stage. So it's really only applicable at like the side stations. That's what we have to point of people. So they know. Yeah. Has anyone ever says, like, yo, why would you pointing at me, you weirdo? Has anyone ever taken it?
Starting point is 00:31:21 No, they know one pointing at them. Yeah. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And you're like, you. You lost because of you. They're feeling so bad about it too. Like smirking because they're so salty.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Oh, that's the best when they're just giving me that salt. They're like, and you just know you just alpha them. It's like when a boxer gets punched in the head and then they go like this, didn't hurt me. But they know it that otherwise they want to set shit. Yeah. I'm not hurt. Is it you think what you're saying to me hurts?
Starting point is 00:31:47 I mean, it's kind of like, what are you going to do at that point? Everything's been said. We've been playing into the result. You're either a put. You're either a. pussy for saying something or a pussy for losing. There's no way of going about it. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:59 That's not about that. But when you were saying there's no good trash talkers and cod, is that because they were good in Halo? Yeah, Ryan Newb got in my head a few times. Really? In Dead series. Ryan, that kid was the most annoying kid I've ever played against by far. That's... Followed closely by, like, goofy, maybe. Them team, and they went on the same team.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Faisal? Yeah, dude. Oh, my God. You can ask Nick. Dude, this kid. Oh, my God. He's still in his head. He's still in my head. He's still in my head. He's still living up, dude. Because like, when we played, you were just wearing Astros, like, next to each other, basically on mainstage. Like, you could hear what they're saying. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And fucking, this kid would just be screaming about anything. He'd be lying, right? He'd be, like, literally screaming, like, like, like, fucking, like, I just ninjaed him. And you're like, no, you didn't. Like, no, you didn't? You just want to stand up? No, you did it? Yeah, your teammates are hearing that.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Like, you just got ninjaed? Yeah, yeah. Like, he would just be like, dude, every single kill. It was just, and he'd just be losing, just fucking screaming. It's so annoying. Yeah. And just, oh, dude, that hats off that guy. Hats off, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Take off your hats. He was so cringe, but it was so, so good. Let's see it then. Was there ever like an intimidating? Take your hat off. No, it was just annoying. Not from him, but from other people in Halo. He's got good hair, too.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I tried. It was just, it was so fucking annoying, bro. And then him and goofy at the same time, both just screaming. Because I think, I think I was talking to Nick at the scuff house, and he said, he said that whenever the twins would get. Or in lunch. Yeah, whenever they would get going. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I thought you were talking about the Suttists. No. There are a lot of twins. Warheads. That's the one. I remember they'd just be walking around passing out war. They have bags of it. A lot of twins in Halo, yeah?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Three sets? Yeah. One over two. Damn, that's crazy. Launchbox Roy and Elamite Warrior and Ace. They're twins? They're not twins. They're brothers.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They're a lot of brothers. They're brothers. They're singing and they're bringing. there. What was it called with the Damon Wayans and Marlon Wayans? What was it called?
Starting point is 00:34:01 God, it was such a good show. The Wayne's Brothers? Yeah, it was called the Wayne's Brothers. Oh, yeah. Wait, really? Yeah, it was. It's fucking. You know the fucking show.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It's so good. I always... Wait, was it Wayne's brother? It wasn't it Wayne's World? No, Wayne's World is the Excellent Party on a Represcent. I'm thinking of something different then. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Song or movie? What? I was talking about a TV show. Yeah, I know. And then I thought you were talking about Wayne's world because I heard Wayne. Well, it was Wayans. There's two, yeah, I get where you're coming from. Bruce Wayne, like Batman.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Little Wayne. I've seen Little Wayne. Like Bruce. Wayne. Yeah, Gretsky. Yeah, hockey. Wayne, yeah. Hockey.
Starting point is 00:34:40 That's what we did with Mike last time. It's the only hockey player, I think I know. With Mike. This is what we did with Mike last time. Michael Jackson. Michael Jordan. Mike Mike Johnson. Oh, he's like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:34:49 There's so many mics that are good at it. Mike. Mike and Ikes. Yes. Underrated. The candy is underrated. Dude, right? You think so?
Starting point is 00:34:57 It actually is underrated. I'd say so. I love Mike and I. You know what's really underrated? I forgot the name of it. Take fives. Take five. Never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Trust. I've had them. Yeah, they're pretty good. What are they? They have a pretzel in them. Chocolates? You normally find one in like your Halloween bag. You'd be like, ooh, what's this?
Starting point is 00:35:13 And then you eat it and you're like, ooh. So, Seth, you come from Pennsylvania. You come from Pennsylvania. You come from Pennsylvania. grew up in Pennsylvania, drove in Pennsylvania, drove in Chicago, all of a sudden a little snow falls in Texas and you can't drive. What happened? I mean, my car is just not able to drive in the snow.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Usually, if I had my fusion, that would have been no problem to drive it. Don't reliable from the White Staddle. The White Stally. Now owned by Renato, Saints, he has my car. Oh, does he? Yeah. I was wondering where Nick and his car went. He loved that car.
Starting point is 00:35:46 He was like, give me her. And I said, what? For the first year, Nato had his car. Nato'd be like 8's call. Like, dude, fucking whip is so clean. I'm like, dude, I know you have sets four. Fuget. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Don't, I think you bought some new car. Yeah. Not nice. What? What are you talking about? Reliable for sure. Definitely reliable. Four wheel.
Starting point is 00:36:07 No. In this terrain? You sound like you miss it. In the cold weather, yeah. You should trade your car that you have now with your old car. And get three of those. Get Nato. That's not how it.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Switch with Nano. Yeah. That'd be a good bargain for you. I tried, man. I tried. Now, how many miles do you have right now? 36,000. On your car right now currently?
Starting point is 00:36:27 36. I have 36 on Nade's wagon, which still has a license plate that Nade gave it, sold it to me in. And I'm running like, I'm just running. Just riding dirty. Yeah, I'm riding dirty. And I'm hoping that one day he's going to receive a message from the Texas Department of Transportation. I'd be like, you owe $1,500 in tolls. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Got you prank. Yeah, he really socked it to him. It's just like some rich friends prank type of thing. That's like detrimental to most people. I hope he's getting like 15K and like fucking like tickets. That's hilarious. Weird. Weird flex.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Weird. Hector was talking about how he paid off the delivery guys and he did this motion. I didn't. They cost a pretty penny though. You did. Bro, I, so Brandon, you did. You're throwing your front of the bus here because you know he's going to have to explain the story and then you're now you're throwing your friend under the bus you should have
Starting point is 00:37:21 thought about that. No, you are. It's messed up right? How he did that? I need to do that to you all the time. I need to keep track of his weird flexes as well as everyone else. As long as this is not detrimental to the team. Yeah. It's not. All I'm saying is that I'm out here. It's like it's like when you killed me in Minecraft trying to help you. That's what's happening right now. I was trying to help a teammate. No, you were trying to help Bruce. That's a teammate. Not me. It's teammate. You just said trying to help me. See, that's right to the team. There's no I in team scump.
Starting point is 00:37:52 There's an eye and win. Which is crazy because there's two eyes and scumpy. Damn, there are two eyes and scumpy. The last day is Michael Jordan. That's where I learned there. There's two of them. There's two eyes and scumpy. That's how much he loves himself.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Here, blacks. Give me this stuff. Let's get on to the... You can't even take it for me. If you want to do, paper cut, my season's ruined. That is also true. This podcast has been all over the place. That had a cat and he named it skump.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Just think about that. Rest in peace. Oh So it's a cat Huh? Literally was like I'm gonna just call it skump too like I'm just Scumper I'm skumper
Starting point is 00:38:26 Wasn't you one of your time? Skumber. Cumber. What are you doing? I didn't name it scump. Yeah, okay. Skumper is better. Yeah, what?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Scumper. Skumpur. P. Oh, you fucked up. You should have named it skumpur. P-U-R-R-R. I did. Yeah, you should have done that.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yes, I did. It's too late to start out. Instagram. Scumper. Yes, it is. That's fucked. That's fucked.
Starting point is 00:38:56 No, it's not. Rest in peace. Caddy. Yeah. What happened? Which, which Fortnite Pro quit?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Which Fortnite Pro? Which Fortnite Pro quit on teammate? I can't talk about it. A 20 million event. Wait, wait, wait. A Fortnite Pro quit on his teammate mid event? $20 million event.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Wait, what's the context of that? Yeah. No, know this is what they just throw letters like words into this how old was this person that quit I don't even know if this is like recent about this is mostly
Starting point is 00:39:26 kids in Florida either well like 16 to 18 on average I don't know what money is really it's like a I mean if if I was 16 and 20 million I would know what that was that's 20 million 20 large there's no way it's a 20 million tournament though yeah where did that come from is that like their
Starting point is 00:39:42 worlds their big one what like their champs just explain it it's an actual tournament for 20 million and his friend quit on his teammate. Dues? Mid tournament. Is it now when you say $20 million, it's a $20 million price pool for one event?
Starting point is 00:39:58 A season. Oh, okay, it's a season. That's a season. This bullet points just going less. That's quite a bit of cash. That is. I don't know. Look, I bet you they're not boys no more.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Unless there was a reason. I don't even know. His power went out. Again, there's like, here's, I think he just left them. I mean, it's a whole season. It's power still out? And he still can't tell him.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like, dude, my power was out. He's just sitting there talking shit for like four days. He got canceled. He can't defend himself because he's got no energy. He's got no power. He's sitting there next to, like, handle it right now. That's fucked. If, unless he has a reason.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He has no reason. I need to know the reason or else. I just can't even respond to this bullet. Yeah, no, we, uh, the thing about this, about these bullet points is that I literally, right before we started the podcast, I saw them like writing shit down really quickly. Like, it's like, yo, guys, let's huddle together and talk about something recent. God bless. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Minecraft Opticraft. Here are the topics. Just so you guys know what the topics are, okay? Minecraft, I'm gonna read them exactly as they read right here. We don't even need topics. I know, but I'm gonna read them for you anyway. We should do no topics. Minecraft Opticraft.
Starting point is 00:41:01 CDL Super Week. How the Hecks Quarters is packed now? Is that what you said? I'm down. PS5 VR2, Future OVR in parentheses. It's a fucking YouTube title all of a sudden. And Ninja confirms $100 million. Can we get a verification?
Starting point is 00:41:17 get a verification that he said himself, I doubt that Tyler's like, yeah, I made $100 million in gaming. A hundred million? Yeah, that's what he said. This is what, for the record, anyone, Jake Lucky and anybody else is going to take some of this to make a video. Don't know. Anybody that's going to steal exactly what we're talking about is just throw it in their videos.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Jake, I'm talking to you. A hundred mil? Yeah. Listen, just for the record, I'm saying that right now, Optic, gaming, podcast. is not saying that Ninja confirmed there's $100 million because I know he didn't confirm that no one would confirm I would confirm that
Starting point is 00:41:54 no one would confirm that no one else would confirm the fact that did that so what we wrote this no creator would no creator would confirm that Roger gosh darn it what if I got that shit would you have been mind blown yeah I mean yes because it was all the way
Starting point is 00:42:10 over there I would have been mind blurt just just because he went so far away What? You always talk about how you go pull the paper up and just throw it. Yeah. Okay. Well, we do need this. We need...
Starting point is 00:42:24 We need... We need... We do need this piece of paper. Okay, so let's talk about Minecraft off the craft a little bit. Okay, so it took... It took... No, it did. All right, let's get something...
Starting point is 00:42:37 Diamonds. All right, let's read. Let's read... Let's read. Just really quick. Let's read. Let's read... I know how to build a boat.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Let's reel it back in. What? Yeah. Is it just wood? I thought there were sticks. No, it's just wood. This was planks in the U shape. And I ought to build a bed.
Starting point is 00:42:56 What is it? Three planks, three wool. Yes, sir. Can you use different color wool? Yeah. No, you can. Yeah, you can. Only on the pillow.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. I just lost composure. Yeah, exactly. Don't, watch you, Roger! Here we go. All right, so really quickly. It took close to seven years to get you to play Minecraft. It actually took that because we were playing in 2013.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And I would refuse to play it. Why? So are you saying? Mainly because. Maybe the friendship level now. Well, I would say mainly A, because I didn't want to take the time to learn it on stream and get roasted for trying to learn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Which is inevitable. And that's part of the allure. Yeah. The spectators want to help. Right? even when you know Minecraft very well it's still the most backseated game I've ever played yeah it has to be yeah but so
Starting point is 00:43:53 that was one of the main points B I obviously didn't want to get roasted for for competition because I mean back then I mean I would say I'd say we probably got roasted back then more than we do now for sure you guys got annihilated like I play Minecraft now and like I haven't really been receiving any like I think people get it for some reason people get it now People just got out of that phase of hating. Well, to be fair, Minecraft in
Starting point is 00:44:17 Minecraft in 60-50 was more of like a, it was more of like a thing. Like you guys did Minecraft. Now it seems like you guys are playing Minecraft to get to relax after streams. And people love that. Yeah. Or scrimms, sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Because people love watching you guys scramm and knowing that you guys were screaming scrimm. Oh, like, canceling scrimm. You're like, I don't know about canceling, but you guys were like waking up to play Minecraft. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It seemed like a priority. And not scrimmed. It wasn't. ever and I hated that people like said that shit. Well, you also got to understand like at that time, our fans were like, you know, 14, 15, 16. And then Seth was like three years older than them maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Where now everybody's grown up like the majority of the green wall. I am very confident in saying it's literally the youngest like segment of that has to be like 18. 19. Yeah. You know what I mean? And everybody else is like 18 to like 26. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah. Like the amount of, yeah. There's still younger kids like what? And there are young kids, yeah, but I bet you the optic, the majority of the optic fan fan group or fan base is probably in that area. And when you're saying kids, you're talking about like 16, 17 year olds. I'd say, I'd say like 14 days. Are you think? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Especially back in the day. I look at the data and I said like very, very, very small group. But you also, like we're going to get to the, what is that, Maddie? Thank you, Matt. Look at that. We got our own Maddie. Well, that's also. 1.1.2%.
Starting point is 00:45:42 1.2% is 13 to 17. 18 to 24 is 38%. 25 to 34 is 46%. 35 to 44 is 9%. 45 to 54. Shout out to them. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yo, shout out to the 65 plus that make up 0.7%. Those are my men.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And women. So like I know like now because I get messages sometimes with like, yeah, I was like, when are you guys gonna put out like baby clothes or something? because our fans are now having to have kids. That's crazy. You know, who do you think? Like, I always, I always like talk to Jude and I try to speculate who's the next, like,
Starting point is 00:46:18 besides karma, who's the next person to have a kid? No. No. No. No. No. What do you mean? No.
Starting point is 00:46:26 You should be like what? No. Why are you saying it so confidently? No children for me. I'm about this fucking grind. For how long, though? Were you 24, right? Yeah, I still got plenty.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Wait, how old are you? 25. 25. I always knew. I always knew. from the beginning of time that my first kid was going to come at 29 and she did 29. He's still going to be next though.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah, he's still going to be next. I think Nick's going to have an accident. Fuck no. Well, I don't think so. It's impossible, it's not impossible, but it's very,
Starting point is 00:46:54 very hard to maintain, like, especially my schedule with a kid. There's no way. I wouldn't be able to, like, be there at all. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:01 that's how I feel. I would be like, I wouldn't be able to be there. It's literally wake up. I'm either content day, stream, into scrims, through the day. That's it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Like, that's every day. Yeah. So it's like, there's no time. But that's everybody in the world, though, too, though. I mean you're not next. It just means you're real prepared. Yeah, so. You might still be next.
Starting point is 00:47:18 If you think about it, like, think about how many people wake up on a daily basis at six to be at work by eight or nine, right? Or, and to get their kids to school. Like, everybody works those eight hour days. Well, yeah, but having a kid, that's different than having a six-year-old that you drop off at school every day. True? Yeah, I mean, they start out as babies.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And they only, they're not babies forever. What do you mean they? Of course they start off as babies. You think I'm that stupid? No, I don't think you're stupid at all. Wait, has I was in Benjamin Button? Yeah. How does that movie start?
Starting point is 00:47:48 I've never seen it. I know the concept though. How does he start out? It's like a, like an old baby. Yeah. He gets spawned? He gets birth. He gets birthed by a woman?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yes, by a woman. And she just, how tall is he? It's a baby, but he's a baby. But he's wrinkly? But he's wrinkly, yeah. And then he grows up as an old person. Like a little Voldemort? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And then he, he's shrug. brings back it's like a diamond a three year old 94 year olds did you say diamonds imagine being a three year old in your head but you're 93 in your body I mean essentially is the same thing you can't really walk fast and you're still trying to like grab grab your balance before you get to a certain age that's crazy but I guess do you do you meet in the middle like when he's 34 was he's 34 yeah yeah that's dope and then he falls 34 I guess when he's 50 and then he becomes a child right when he's like 40 he's like actually his age yeah and then he
Starting point is 00:48:38 Oh, he gets like that one spot. That one little tight. And then he falls in love. And then she's like, oh, shit. She's going opposite. They're going opposites. Right? She's getting older.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Right? So as she starts. I've never seen that movie. Me either. I'm going to watch it again. I saw it one time and it was really weird. Yeah, I got to watch it. It's weird or is it good though?
Starting point is 00:48:55 You should watch it. I don't know. That was before I like appreciated films. I just kind of went. You should watch it. As date nights. Yeah. In high school.
Starting point is 00:49:02 You don't know, no deposits with Lex. Deposits? That's what you're calling? What the fuck? You might want to reword that. What you make a deposit you get ROI right? Oh, you're talking Oh my god. What? What is called? No, no, no, no, Seth he's next. One sets one sets is popped out then then that once I once I Pause it once I've always since high school. I've called it that is it pro create? Yeah once I pro create this world is fucked
Starting point is 00:49:36 Why? Why? Because imagine two of me. It would just be you What if it's a female? Oh, my jeans would take over Imagine? What? Are you saying you have a daughter with a bunch of testosterone? It looks just like you.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah. You have a daughter that works out and just You think his genes would overtake mine? Yeah, I think so. The trolley jeans? No shot. I mean, I don't know from I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I don't know. I don't know about I don't know from a personality perspective. maybe that you could overtake, but I don't know. I don't think that your dreams would do that because they skip,
Starting point is 00:50:14 sometimes they skip generations. Yeah, I don't know. So your kid's going to be like super shy and quiet. Yeah. I think Mama Scump is ready for to be Grandma Scum. No, she's not. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I don't think she is. Wait, are you going to have babies before Jordan? He's 30. He's like, he's 32. So are you an uncle 21? No. So Buzz is your only son and the cats are whatever. Don't call Buzz his son.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I've been in that household. He's not his son. He runs that shit. He's like a stepbrother. He's my. Oh, yeah. He's bad. He's not bad.
Starting point is 00:50:49 He's a good. It's a misdustre. It's like when I try to explain. When I try to like make an excuse for Seth, I'm like, he's a misunderstood boy. Buzz is not bad. He's an innocent boy. He's a good boy. He's just unruly whenever he's excited.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Have you talked? I mean, I don't know. There's no. controlling him when he's hype. Yeah. I mean, I often have, like,
Starting point is 00:51:10 restorations about asking these questions because, like, I don't know if you guys, like, have you and is talking about kids or any of that? No. Have you and Lex talking about kids?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Absolutely not. Not really. Can you imagine? It comes up. Like, she'll be, she'll be, like, doing her makeup,
Starting point is 00:51:23 and then she'll do her, like, his or her makeup and, like, think about how that is. I mean, that's definitely gonna happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:29 For sure going to happen, but, I mean, as long as that's, I don't know. Bro, just imagine how creative Good kid.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Very, but possibly could be too much. Like the kids just up in the clouds all the time. What? Maybe. Just thinking about creative. Just like thinking about crazy shit, but can't fold close. You know what I mean? The school. Should be fucking.
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Starting point is 00:56:04 But what do you think he would? Super creativity. If you could have one superpower, what would it be? For me personally? Weenie Vision. What is Weenie Vision? I need to know what weenie vision. Please continue.
Starting point is 00:56:14 You can see through your weir? Bun, weenie vision. Hot dog. Dude, you're making no sense today. Honestly, you're just fucking scaring me. Wait, no. Wait, wait, keep going. I have to know.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You can shoot a hot dogs out of your eyes at any given moment. Kill bosses. Wow. Here's what I originally thought. Kill bosses, hot dogs. As soon as you said weenie vision, I pictured an eye on your weater. And you can see
Starting point is 00:56:36 How big everyone is You guys haven't seen the fairly odd parents Well, show No, I have and I would fucking be condiment vision We could be a little duo Weenie Vision is in that show And I stole it from that show Weenie Vision
Starting point is 00:56:49 And your condominant vision What's up? Boom, Chicago doll We're like mermaid We're like mermaid manner And Barnacle boy Hell yeah So if I was just like, I'm hungry
Starting point is 00:57:01 Bing Got you Question. I could literally sit here right now and shoot a hundred weenies at your face and you would be able to do anything. That wouldn't be. That wouldn't help his hundred.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Just wieners in my face. Let me ask you this. Do you have the, do you have the option? Do you have the option to say whether or not it's steamed, grilled or cold? Yeah, yeah. Weird question.
Starting point is 00:57:24 What? You get you to red weater out? Like the little red ones? Oh, yeah. Kibossages? With cheddar? Brought worst. Imagine you could shoot out.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Sausard dog? Vienna sausages Sure Rapid fire Sure But that would be mine Alright next Who's next?
Starting point is 00:57:41 I fly Thanks for sharing You ready Mine's weird Flying I wish I could go Invisible But weeder dogs is cool too
Starting point is 00:57:52 What about you? You don't know No I do Do for the podcast man We'll cut it If it's Just by his face I can tell
Starting point is 00:58:00 We're gonna have to cut it I gotta think of another one That one was way too fuck What is it? X-ray vision? No. No, that was normal. The thing is... You're saying you want to see everyone naked?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Ew. Don't you're saying? You're so gross. Like me? We should be sitting here at the podcast right now. You'd be singing something. That's what I thought you meant. Which I don't.
Starting point is 00:58:20 When you said we need... That's what I thought you meant. Like you could see everyone's weenie. No. Wait, what? Okay, that's weird. Because I thought it was what he was saying where you could see stuff out of your wing.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Why do you see everyone's whinnie? I don't hear a winner? Wait, what? Like I would I picture like I know like if you're like oh I need to see and then you can see with your wiener as well So like I saw what do you want to see like like like what do you call a submarine What do you call that? What do you call that? Oh What is that call? You are an idiot you are I get it It's like 360 vision right yeah right no I get that that's good that would be pretty good
Starting point is 00:58:54 No it would not be pretty good I mean why would you but then you would have to but the thing is you'd have to expose your, you know, because if not, I'd just see my shorts right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was going to say, well, I was going to see the back of your shorts. Wait, you actually have to pull it out. Well, you can't, I mean, you can't have x-ray and weeny vision that's cheating. Oh my God. So you'd have to have. Well, we can't call it weeny vision.
Starting point is 00:59:15 We need those topics. If yours is we needy vision, we need those topics. We don't need those topics. We don't need those topics. We don't need those topics. All right. Second topic. All right. And we didn't finish Minecraft.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Anyway, so you were saying the reason that you didn't, want to, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's going to be a lot of, anyway. That's why it's better, though. Was this the first time that you've ever played Minecraft? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:59:40 For real, ever? Yeah. How do you like it? Be honest. Good. Would you go as far as to say that is the best game that has ever existed? Absolutely not. Name one game that's better.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Halo 2. See, bingo was his name-o. I can agree with that. Halo 2 was a massive. Because that's how I feel about MonoRfer 2. It really was. It was a masterpiece. Monofer 2 is my favorite game, but I do think that
Starting point is 01:00:07 Minecraft's the best game ever made. But my Mono Warfare 2 is my favorite game. Yeah, Mono Warfare is mine. I think World of Warcraft is the best game ever made. That's also a good running. Good running. Dude, the amount of replayability on that game is like second to none. Well, I mean, yeah, no, it is second to Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Well, okay, maybe. Minecraft is sick. But like, once you do everything. What do Warcraft's like, Waterworks like Minecraft if it looked cooler. If you do the same shit, you just go questing and you get items and then you fucking Go mine and World Warcraft. I mean some people would say RuneScape for the same thing, just for the replayability.
Starting point is 01:00:42 That type of game. You can just play, you can do so many different things. You could go strip down butt naked and go into Orgamore and freaking ask for gold. The hell? Have you? Let me ask you. I've made a lot of money. Have you ever done that?
Starting point is 01:00:57 Huh? Have you ever done that? No, but I'm saying there's so many different things you can roll play, you can, You can what now? You can roll play. It's like GTA in a sense where you can, it's a sandbox game, kind of. Like sandbox games are like the best games. Yeah, because there's so much that you can do.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Those are the ones where I'm like, yeah. And I would say Minecraft is probably number one sandbox game. Yeah, I mean, yeah. World of Warcraft, I wouldn't categorize a sandbox. I categorize that as like an MMO. The one thing I don't like about Minecraft is that if I was a first time player and didn't have your guys help, I wouldn't know what to do. Like there's nothing that's pointing me in the right direction.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I would just spawn up and be like, I mean, what do I do now? Yeah, I would know to cut down trees. Yeah, but without videos too. That's what I'm saying. Just the game out of the box. Yeah. Well, they have guides. They have guides.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah, yeah. Like, it tells you on the upper right hand, on the upper right hand corner, you're going to sign and say, like, go chop down a tree to make tools. Dude, then you do. Oh, maybe there is a, yeah. I had to remember back in the day when you were like eight where you have to buy guides for games. Yeah. Like, I used to buy guides. I used to like Halo.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I bought a guide for Halo. It was a cheating website. I had Blinks the time sweeper. It was a guide. It was the hardest fucking game Now guides are like absolutely The only thought Also games aren't hard anymore
Starting point is 01:02:05 Have you noticed that Unless it's unless that's its thing Like unless it's a dark soul Unless it's a straight up Fucking only to make it hard Right like a Dark Souls or a Sakaro or whatever the name of that game I mean what do you mean games aren't hard
Starting point is 01:02:17 Games aren't hard by the game They hold your hand like a motherfucker now What? Like Game Boy games And like original PS like one games Like those shit's play game boy Those shit were like hard Like especially like the beginning like the first Pokemon's and stuff like that
Starting point is 01:02:30 like those were like hard ass games to beat and now a day it's like games just are like easy oh yeah Pokemon the sword and shield that I played you literally just get a gear dose like dude it's so easy by going you're talking about like some like you were talking about like Pokemon red and blue he was like yeah dude
Starting point is 01:02:46 fucking Pokemon sword and shield like the one that came out like last year that's what he was saying about the easy ones he's saying it was too easy oh you're saying it was easy yeah like you could like you beat every trainer and it's like not hard at all dude I used one move all the way up until the final like the final boss and then I just turn the game off
Starting point is 01:03:01 if I turned it back on it would still be at the there are no games like Mega Man X did you guys ever play that I played Mega Man X on Super Nintendo was like super hard contra was super hard unless even if you did the code oh Contra I do even if you did the code and got all the lives like it still took a lot of lives in order to get to the final like I remember trying to
Starting point is 01:03:20 beat like Golden I like Audit 64 and it's like pretty difficult but that's also in the control it was also what was that Didn't it come converted? Turok? Oh, Turok's really true? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Turok was pretty nasty. Yeah, Turok was really good. I don't know. I do think that with technology, it just makes things easier. Maybe the games back then were hard because they couldn't figure out a way to make it easy with someone. Like that's true. The coding hadn't gotten to the level to where you're like, I can literally make anything. And also there's a lot of, like, most games nowadays are multiplayer, which are PVPs.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Yeah. It makes sense to why they would be, you know. Like, multiplayer's way better than single player. in my opinion. Yeah. Unless it's like a store, like a good story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I use single player games to decompress. Not, I play multiplayer to be competitive. I literally for... What? What do you decompressed?
Starting point is 01:04:09 What do you decompress? What do you mean? I played a cyberpunk. How much of that did you play? I probably like 70% through, 60% through. When was you streamed? No,
Starting point is 01:04:19 I didn't stream it at all. Actually, he does do that. Now I'm thinking about it because you play Star Wars too. Yeah. All you do is game. Not really. You're a gamer.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Not you watch his movies Yeah, watch movies The one thing about that Like I watch movies From a decompression standpoint Like I've always Minecraft is always my go to
Starting point is 01:04:39 Anytime like I'm not That's a fun decompressed game I will say that Like after a long day of scrims You get on Minecraft And just go like mine And do dumb shit And just die
Starting point is 01:04:49 The thing about that The thing about that too Is that I was telling him I was telling him that Like one day I tweeted At the end of the day I'm just a farmer Tending to his farms
Starting point is 01:04:56 And then I thought I overthought about it. I'm like, holy shit, I kind of am, right? Like, because at the end of the day, I do go home strictly just to farm and to make sure that this looks good. And I am that person in that game. So it's like an extension of you. And that, like, if I was able to do that in real life and I could see the yield, like,
Starting point is 01:05:12 right away to see them grow. Like, I think that I would do that too. But I've always, like, every single time that I played Minecraft, my number one thing has always been farming it. Just farming, farming, farming wheat, farming wheat, farming potatoes. That's what I said this to make in the flycast yesterday. Like, there's Minecraft, you can. play it how like there are like 30 ways to even play the game that's like there are people that
Starting point is 01:05:32 farm there are people that mine there are people like damon who get cracked and do everything they want to do a whole thing in one play through yeah then there's what do Seth what do you do you do you just like no he built he built yeah he's an architect you built immediately which is hard to do to be fair what do you mean built immediately like you had stairs and like doors and stuff like within your first five minutes of playing and I was still like using dirt you never built a dirt house, which is what everyone does when they first play. I built a dirt house immediately my first time playing. See, I didn't even build a house.
Starting point is 01:06:03 You just went straight to mining, right? I just went to go find diamonds. Yeah, that's so funny. You guys should, like, obviously, if you are ever bored and literally there's nothing to watch, go watch C-Nanners first walk-through on my, or play-through on Minecraft. Yeah. You'll see a Minecraft that, like,
Starting point is 01:06:18 I don't even know if there was spiders back then. Yeah, like the original, like, there was no book. No, there was no, of course not. Yeah, yeah, because he played in the, it was the beta right yeah yeah there was no book like what do you you memorize it yeah you have to look out online and shit yeah that's what I was saying like how are you supposed to find anything I mean World of Warcraft before they had like trust or quest trackers and stuff you had to literally look up every quest where you couldn't find where it was like you had to go look at it
Starting point is 01:06:42 yeah that's what I was saying games used to be so hard but now it's like I remember World of World of Warcraft I remember playing the first one when I was like classic a kid vanilla yeah I was playing it like at my game shack with my with my like buddies from high school yeah but you'd You get like a trial where you could play for like a couple hours and we would just go to like level 10 and then quit over and over again. Well, I would. They'd count. But like I just remember like it felt like it was so easy to follow the storyline. From when you spawn, like you just have a little question mark and you're like, what's that?
Starting point is 01:07:08 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. From when you spawned. But in Minecraft I spawned and I was like, what the fuck do I do? Do you think the next GTA? Do you think the next GTA? You spawned in a GTA? Or the next like, no.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Spawn? Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Hold on to that thought. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is this is like one of the things that attracted me the most two. Minecraft is that you're transported to the earliest stages of mankind, right?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Where there's no electricity, no technology, no nothing, and you have to survive the night, you have to grow your crops. That's what attracted me to it. Like actual survival is. Surviving the night is. Now there's a lot of games like that. Have you guys seen Valheim, the new game that came? Yeah, Diesel's been trying to get me to play that, but I'm like...
Starting point is 01:07:44 It broke 500,000 concurrent players. Did they? Only the fifth game to do that. Yeah. Really? Yeah. On Steam. On Steam.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I've ever heard of this. Yeah, it's like, bro, it's super... It looks, it's like you're a Vikingian. but you're building your huts and there's trolls around that I'm talking about like giant it's like it's like another Minecraft both well it's like another rust I've never played rust so I don't I have no idea what the fuck you do in rust people people people say that rust is like Minecraft but with people yeah like if you and Damon obviously yes that shit one of the things that I was thinking of doing
Starting point is 01:08:17 it's like now that everybody's like gotten to this point wipe the server put a put a put a three life minimum out there and then let's Let's play the game. All right. Like all the progress that you have right now. Because like Nick would just lie and say he hasn't died three times. No. There's what you're going to be like track.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I mean if you're streaming it. He's died at least four times off stream. I've died. I've died two times. Oh, that's cool. I've been murdered. While trying to hope a friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Who murdered? The friend. The friend? He killed you? You died of disset? I hit him with my fist. No. I literally.
Starting point is 01:08:55 fell down. Wait, you haven't seen that. I fell on the hole, and then he was, like, looking down the hole. To be fair, and he went, oh,
Starting point is 01:09:01 oh, the hole of the Brandon. Yeah, he just fell and tried to pull out his torches. That is true. Brandon's the one, like,
Starting point is 01:09:06 if he wouldn't have built that, that trap, it's very genius of him. Very content-based. He's super fucking toxic. Very toxic, but very genius. So toxic for that.
Starting point is 01:09:18 It was funny. It was funny. It was. I don't know. I just think, I think that now that you guys, like, know everything,
Starting point is 01:09:24 like, you got to put it all on the line now. Right? Because there's like, think, what's that dude's, Phil's,
Starting point is 01:09:29 Filsa? Yeah, the hardcore. Yeah, yeah. He lived for eight years. Five, five, five, five. Oh,
Starting point is 01:09:35 I think Nick told me about this. Five human years staying alive in that, in that realm. How often was he playing though? Every day. Every day. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'll show you his like, well, what was he doing in the game? Everything. What I'll show you, I'll show you after this. How did he not just slip up? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:51 That's why. No, if you watch him play, he plays like, extremely cautious. Like, All the time. He plays cautious the way that he plays poker.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Oh, not that cautious. I don't know if anything can be that cautious. I literally, I lost the last poker game by being not cautious. Yeah. No, but that was actually you just hustling the whole thing because you'd won three straight. I'm not stupid. We know. We won four straight.
Starting point is 01:10:14 No one wanted to play it again. Ah, you sandbag. You sandbagging so many. No, I actually, I had a few drinks before I came. And they were 9% beers and I was fucked. Yeah. You're having a good time? Yeah, because I didn't eat either, so I was on an empty stomach.
Starting point is 01:10:29 So you were just, I should have, I should have, listen, I promise next, next, next. Huh? Oh, yeah, and then Nick won't. You're lucky. Next time I won't be drunk. I promise next time they were there, there's going to be odurbs, there's going to be pizza, there's going to be wings, there's going to be a literal party. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 You know what I'm saying? I know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. All right, one of the other things that was on the table right there was that the ninja thing. I look I think that he's gotten close to a hundred on a back no I don't want to make He keeps getting it
Starting point is 01:11:00 And ungruffling it I don't think it's anybody's business Yeah I'm just truthfully I just have Like I know He has a shit ton of money I doubt he said that And I mean I don't even know what to say to that
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah look I I don't know CDL Super Week CDL Super Week You want to talk about that Let's go Matches Matches
Starting point is 01:11:22 We were talking with the prego on the pregame show. But go ahead, back to the ninja. Yeah, look, again, it's no one's business, but he is a public personality, so it kind of is people's business. I don't think that he's the one that came out and said it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:35 But I'm, you know, if he did, that's awesome, right? It tells the entire industry that there is a possibility because he just showed you that there's a possibility. I mean, he pushed the ceiling. The ceiling is at Ninja height right now. There's no way. And I don't see anybody hitting.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I mean, there's a few instances where people have going, to where he was in 2018, but yeah, up to, no, no, no, no. I know, I know exactly, I know exactly, that is, that is the ceiling right now until it gets pushed higher. Yeah, that's the bar. Yeah, that's where it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Yeah, which is, I mean, look, and if you, if you look at, like, obviously, like Tim, Nick Merck's, like they're fucking Uber successful, right? Like, Uber fucking successful. But to get to a point to do what Ninja did is like, that's a once in a lifetime sort of thing until like, or once every 10 years sort of thing, right?
Starting point is 01:12:22 Let's count about the superstars that have happened in the gaming industry I can go as far back as Hutch and then immediately there's C-Nanners because that's the one that became like fucking super fucking successful but then after that came what Vanos and crew? What was the other one guy? K-Y R Speedy and them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about that one dude that was fucking he was in the car?
Starting point is 01:12:45 X-Jaws. Yeah, X-Joss 2. Is he big? He was big, right? See, that's the sort of thing that pushes the needle forward because Somebody out there, some gamer out there is going to be like, if he can do it, I can do it and I'm going to do it, right? If you look at when X-Jol said to the public, or I don't know how he got out that he was like he made $50,000 one month, everybody was, everybody dropped what they're doing and he immediately changed the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Immediately changed the game just knowing that you can make $50,000 a month. Everybody started uploading. And then from there you see obviously like the insanity that's happening now, right? Where people are making millions of dollars a month just doing the wildest shit ever. So I'm glad Look whether he did or didn't Whether he is or isn't Like I believe it I don't believe it
Starting point is 01:13:27 Like obviously it's semantics at that point Whether he's over 100 Under 100 by how much It doesn't matter The fact is is that it is a possibility And people are going to continue Like he's just the first Of many to come
Starting point is 01:13:38 To make hundreds of millions of dollars In the gaming industry All right If you think about athletes Call it the LeBrons Call it the Who else is like Tiger Woods
Starting point is 01:13:48 Mega mega mega riches Like Who's that soccer player Messy, Ronaldo Someone just fucking signed something I think What was it? Namor?
Starting point is 01:13:57 Was it Namer? No, I thought it was messy but I could be wrong He like retired And he's coming back for like a year Or not retired But like he said he's gonna play another year
Starting point is 01:14:06 Under a different team And then he's like 500 million or some shit What the fuck? I didn't hear about this It was insane The thing is like For a year Yeah no
Starting point is 01:14:16 It was like five years or something Or like Patrick Mahomes It now paid fat too Patrick Mahomes Five hundred more money million? 500 million? For 10 years.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yeah, whatever. What are you going to do a 50 million year? Like what? That's so much money. Yeah, man. Imagine. But then you look at, again, this is not, but then you look at e-sports, right? Like this is a digital realm, right?
Starting point is 01:14:40 The second that something happens where you can sell a digital token, call it skins from Counter Strike, call it skins and whatever, like, then you have like an unlimited range of, of, uh, you unlimited range of possibilities to make just loot left and right. It's insane. But I'm glad that whether he did or didn't, and congrats, obviously that's super good.
Starting point is 01:15:02 But, you know, he's not the first. He won't be the last. It's just so wild that the next generation, the next generation that's born and when they become teenagers, we're going to be able to be like, oh yeah, like when we were coming up, the people that were playing for flights. Like they were playing for
Starting point is 01:15:17 $300. Yeah. They didn't have salaries. They were getting flown out. Like, they were playing, like, it's not like it is today. Because, I mean, 15 years from now, people are probably going to get even, I mean, the side. Yeah, it's going to keep going higher. Dude, back then, it was just cool to say that you were sponsored.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, it could be by nothing. By, it could be sponsored by my dad. Yeah, dude, this shit's fucking done. Yeah, he sponsors, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. $500 salaries.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Some light. I mean, you guys were lucky to even have salaries. You all, I remember the first time we got a salary from him. We were, like, 13 championships deep already. Like, and we were so stoked. And our salary was like 1600 bucks. You're welcome. And we were like, dude, let's fucking go.
Starting point is 01:15:53 We were like the first people to get salary. That's why. Yeah, nobody in college was salary. Besides like Cole and they were fighting there. They were fighting tooth and nail for 500 bucks. Like tooth and nail for 500 bucks and they were the most winningest team ever. Was it EG or Cole? What's it cool?
Starting point is 01:16:11 Well, hold on. It was that team. I don't know. We were the most winningest team ever. No. No, you are now. You are now. I'm saying in blackups two
Starting point is 01:16:19 Ghost Gotta protect that Gotta protect that Yeah yeah no Of course No I'm saying Yeah I as as
Starting point is 01:16:26 And if you think about like Where E-sports is Nothing to do with that Like if you think about what E-sports is Like it's not even there yet Right It's still like so young It's still the next big thing
Starting point is 01:16:37 It's still already big And it's already big Well this is this is what's intrigued me I swear to God In the last decade Pokemon has been the one thing That has intrigued me The most
Starting point is 01:16:47 Turtle beaches. And I'm going to tell you why it's intrigued me the most. Those are crazy. Those are fired. It's intrigued me the most because of the amount of press that it's getting on, on something that's going to be gone. It's going to be gone. It's going to be gone.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And there's no like 40 of them left. Okay. Are you talking about the first edition boxes? Yeah. There's no one, like 40, 50 of them left. And then one dude has. How much are they going for? The last one just sold for 450.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Are you sure you? You don't want to buy a pack? Well, that's different. That's like buying a stock and hitting the top. I don't know. Obviously, I'm only doing this because you said it would be a fun thing. And it fucking sure was. Thank you for that because it's,
Starting point is 01:17:29 the stream is going to be, the people we have already lined up to buy. Because the only person who's ever done the way we're doing it is Ludwig and he sold to only creators. And it was like, he got like so many viewers. And like it was a really fun stream to watch. So we're doing the same thing like within Optic and then also like our close like
Starting point is 01:17:46 creator friends. around that. It's going to be so much fun. Yeah. So what which if you were to count like this is this like a like the first edition box that the Logan was right Logan's doing. Is that first edition? Is the second edition? What is this? Like where does that? So first edition.
Starting point is 01:18:02 For my understanding, first edition is like the first run of the cards. Yeah. And it's the special edition and then they and then they do it in bulk. And that's like that's called the unlimited set. So we have the unlimited set still printed in 1999 or 2000 or whatever Yeah So this is the first
Starting point is 01:18:20 I mean this is the first ever Pokemon cards Uh huh Yeah it's still dope as fun It's still insane But I mean the first edition Like I said They're so hard
Starting point is 01:18:28 How much do you think those go for In like two years That's the thing Dude the thing is The longer people hold them They're just gonna keep going up Yeah and like so there's The guy that holds the last two
Starting point is 01:18:37 Is the fucking man Oh he's getting like fucking A couple of milt It's gonna be I mean there's this guy His name's Gary He's like the biggest Pokemon collector ever.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Like everyone knows who he is in like the Pokemon world and he has he has a case of him. The case is six boxes and he said he doesn't have it open. He just has one flap open and so you can see the boxes. Six boxes. He's and then now or maybe he
Starting point is 01:19:03 has nine. I think he has nine. But the case is six. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fucking that's crazy. I mean right there 450 that's. And he said he'll never sell him. He'll never sell them. He'll only pass them down to his kids. Crair. Why? That's good.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I mean, it is good. I'm actually, they're just fucking grabbing with chito fingers and fucking bending the cards and shit. Oh my God, he's just sitting there. When he passes it to his kids, his kids are not going to be seven.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Yeah. They'd instantly just tear them up. When they're like, Daddy, what's this box? And then they're probably shouldn't go into it without saying anything. He's going to come home a day. There's going to be fucking crayons drawn in all the charsards.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Imagine you wake up to that. Imagine you're not. Imagine this Imagine this scenario, right? He has two kids and both of them are super athletes What nothing to do with video? They're just like, what the fuck? Nerd.
Starting point is 01:19:53 That shit out of here, nerd. But yeah, no, I'm super psyched about it. But it's like, I think about I think about what's going to happen in the next two to three years and I see a world in which that dude, right, has the last nine and he can set the price. Dude, people will buy it because they want
Starting point is 01:20:11 what's in there. Dude, the influx is crazy. Like, Logan Paul bought his. He was the first one to open it forever. Yeah. A first edition box. Yeah. He bought his for 250.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And everybody was like, that's insane. Yeah. What has it been? Four months? Yeah. And now it's 450. Yeah. And he's got, I mean, it's, they're worth more.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Buying them instantly made them more valuable. Dude. And he sold. He auctioned off every pack. Yeah. The packs were selling for like 35,000. One sold for $40,000 for one pack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Are you fucking serious? How many packs? Are you in a box one 30 six packs so he probably made his money back oh pro what probably of dude he probably made like one point what is it like 1.6 or something for that one box yeah you made you made at least a million but the thing is is he sold it last time for 11,000 a pack and everyone that bought one like it made people's careers because like content creators were buying it for promotion yeah and like there are i i know of people that have like they weren't getting many views before that and now since like clickbaiting it and shit like that like well i like i like what psa is doing
Starting point is 01:21:15 where they adding the the logan paul set because it is important that is important because that is a part of that history yeah it is pretty cool because if you're opening the last three you can literally run the back of it destroy it by writing last three and it makes it more valuable because they saw you on camera opening and it comes from that specific box it's really it is really crazy exactly steve a oakey has his has does his too if you open a car charge hard hard ever pulled yeah ever think about that that'd be crazy dude that would shoot the price so yeah so yeah exactly it's the last one and that's the that's the that's the one thing that you can do right even if it's even if it's graded if it's the last charge aren't it's graded at fucking eight
Starting point is 01:21:56 is still more valuable than anything else out there because it's the last of its kind that is this is i didn't think about this so right now but the the box that just sold for 450 it's all there's not a card in there that could be more expensive than that. And that's the first time that's happened. Because the last Charzard, Logic bought the last Charzard for $3.50, I think. And the box had sold for $250.
Starting point is 01:22:21 So no one's even going to open. So no one is going to get their money. I mean, well. It's going to like five Charzards. Well, I guess if, yeah. So I guess you can get your money back off the pack because people are buying like $30,000 for a pack. If you open the Charzard,
Starting point is 01:22:33 it could be like $100,000. So that, dude. That's fucking genius That's genius That he did it that way A hundred percent A hundred percent Because again
Starting point is 01:22:43 It doesn't matter It's the moment And anybody that's out there That wants one But can afford it Guess what? In 10 years You will be able to afford
Starting point is 01:22:51 Probably all of them And you are gonna pay Whatever price somebody puts out there Because you have the money to do it Right What was your thing? What did you just say? What did you just say?
Starting point is 01:22:58 In 10 years Everyone can afford $450,000 dollars No no somebody out there Is what I'm saying Somebody out there Will be that successful To where they can buy
Starting point is 01:23:06 anything They want and whoever's selling it sets the price and he's not gonna give a fuck I had too much money I'm gonna buy it That's true I want to own it That's the thing is like there's always there's always someone with more money Yeah and that and those people with more money always like they have shit like they have shit like they have shit like they have shit like They have their thing yeah they have their thing is Pokemon Like like like uh the same guy that I was telling you about sorry I'm like going over
Starting point is 01:23:27 But the same guy was telling you about that has all this like Pokemon shit that has the case or whatever He has three Beckett 10 Charzards they've never been sold they're a lot harder to grade than PSAsas and He's got what? So Beckett is another grading company. Beckett gave me a 9.5 on my... Yeah, so he got his card grade... Oh, so PSA's a grading company? Right.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And then Beckett's another one. Yeah, so PSA is a little bit easier to grade because they give more tens. So Beckett, there's only three Beckett 10 Charzards. And he has all of them? He has all of them. And he has never... How much are they worth?
Starting point is 01:23:58 There's no... There's no price. No one's never bought one. Because he has all of them. He's not got sold. Yeah, and he said he's been offered up to like 700,000 for the... that one card.
Starting point is 01:24:08 He said Justin Bieber offered him money for the card. Like that's what I'm saying like those kind of people want to buy shit like that. Right, right. And he has three of them. He has three of them. Not just three. He has all of them. The crazy thing is is apparently there's four out there.
Starting point is 01:24:21 There's listed four on the Beckett website, but nobody knows where the fourth one is. And he said he'll give people $50,000 just to find where it is. He has a bounty out on the fourth one just to find it for $50,000. That's crazy. Isn't that fucking nuts? That's so wild. Like what world is going on over there? What?
Starting point is 01:24:41 It's so wild. It's nuts. Which is, again, my point. Like, nothing has intrigued me as much as what's happening right now. Yeah. Because it's so fun. It's united like everybody from everywhere. A rapper bought it for that much.
Starting point is 01:24:54 A YouTuber. Gary V. Obviously, you know, had a massive, massive. Dude, I was just going to say in 2016, when when Pokemon Go came out, bro, that was one of the craziest things I've ever. ever seen in my life. I remember I went out like one of the first times I went out like three in the morning at like Long Beach Pier and there was probably like 6,000 people there. Dude and I was just like what the fuck is going right actually yeah literally and I was just like this is so cool if you lived in a city
Starting point is 01:25:19 during that time like I've heard stories of the Santa Monica Pier yeah the Santa Monica Pier yeah the Santa Monica Pier downtown uh Chicago there's a pier that was just being you go there I've been I've been yeah what's the big fucking park in uh New York Central Central Park Apparently that was just insane. Apparently it was just crazy. There was videos coming out with people just like in stonking On Twitch that the dude got fucking punched in the face What remember this dude's like this dude's live streaming trying to find Pokemon and then some dude comes from the side of fucking knocks him What? He takes all his shit picks it up and he's like oh shit Are you serious? Yeah
Starting point is 01:25:54 Bro when that game came out you could just scream and fuck dude there was this one time I was a San Rock appear and we heard someone for in the ocean Yell Blastoys and there was probably a thousand people in the water up to like knee high just like catching a blastoys we've fucking caught it it was like that is crazy it was thing everyone just goes though it was nighttime too like you're just like there's that video sharks hunt at one of the Paul brothers one of the Paul brothers one of the Paul brothers just dragon it's just a stampede of people I've seen some dude there were some crazy videos it's all anyone was talking about that like that was a crazy and everyone was playing it everyone dude like everyone I was like any age group because
Starting point is 01:26:31 parents could play with their kids yeah I literally played it because I was in Santa Monica and I saw a Pikachu and Liv had no Pikachu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, all right. Like, but I get it now. You don't mean? Like I get it now. Yeah. Like that's one time one dude called Big Time. Remember that? It's like somebody's like, oh my God, you're like a Pokemon. You're never at events. I'm so glad that I'm getting a picture with you. And I was like, fuck that means. I know what it means. Yeah, you get it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:26:58 Which is super, super, super ill. Anyway, I think that we went on a little bit super super good. I like that last segment of it. You know what? We just need to get started. And the thing is this... I think the first chaotic part was really funny, too. Yeah. So tell me about it. So just so everybody knows...
Starting point is 01:27:12 March 3rd. Tune in, March 3rd. We're probably going to do it at like noon so that the guys can still scrub because that's right before they're... Yeah, we're probably going to do it at noon. It's going to be a live stream on the Up the Gaming channel. Up the gaming. Yeah, Up the Gaming. Which is the main channel.
Starting point is 01:27:24 We're going to be there. Everyone's going to be a part of it. People that have already bought packs. Obviously, everybody here, including Scump. Yeah. Castro. who else I mean we got Castro Noah J
Starting point is 01:27:38 Trevor May Um noisy butters Uh Um Marcel Marcel Jack
Starting point is 01:27:48 Well no Jack hasn't Jack hasn't committed yet N-HAT hasn't committed yet Yeah yeah yeah of course It was ever since Mystic 7 Like we got a bunch of people That are going to be in it
Starting point is 01:27:56 It's gonna be part Yeah the the optic pack You know what I mean Like see you have it I got it from the optic thing Yeah It just makes that one a little bit Like $2 more
Starting point is 01:28:04 expensive anyway thank you so much for tuning in we'll see you guys next time if you guys have a good topic to talk about please leave it in the description on below I'm sure they won't find it but maybe I'll go in there and look for it anyway we'll see you guys next time goodbye that's pure you're fuck Roger

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