OpTic Podcast - SPENDING $25,000 ON POKEMON CARDS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 11

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

This week on The OpTic Podcast we have HECZ, Big TymeR, FormaL, and Scump talk about meme stocks and buying Pokemon cards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did you make money? Oh, yeah. Really? He said, he said, oh, yeah. Yeah, I know. I feel like you can. I mean, people that actually trade. He's like, it's got chams.

That's literally, you just want chance? Like, oh, champs. Yeah. Oh, shit. We're getting a little inside. Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode number 11. Today's Pallera de Oi is onse. Hey.

Eight. 11. Shit. Eight, Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. I knew it was an O. Whoa.

Wait, do you know how to count in Spanish? Yeah. To what? To probably 100. Let me see you get to 10. Uno, two, trace, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, no, 8, 10. What he said?

Count from 11 to 20 in Spanish. Once, don't say, 3, say. 4. Isn't it, like, 14? 14. Close enough. Kinzeniera. Yeah, yeah.

My Spanish teacher, we used to do the distance learning in school. She would literally just, Anytime we take a test, she would turn off the teacher who was like in a different location and just tell us all the answers to the test. I don't know shit about Spanish. I took two years, but we just cheated the whole time. Apparently, she still cheats. I don't want to put her on the last, but she's still.

What's her name? What's cool? March tree where? I don't know. Yeah, that's messed up. She's great. She didn't cheat. Trying to throw her under the bus and shit? Yeah.

It's messed up. It's just why I don't know my Spanish. Well, look, if that's the worst that she's doing, I'm okay with it because there's been many cases of, you know, teachers taking advantage of strapping young 17-year-olds in high school. Do you know what that happened at Mark Trey? Like one of the, like, major... Yeah, it happened to William Johnson. Yes.

One of, like, the major cases in the United States happened at Mark Trey. What's crazy about that is that I hear more about women teachers doing that to, like, young students. That's what it was. Three. Yeah. In my high school, I don't even want to talk about it. Because it was in the 90s and it was fucked up.

I'll tell you off. They were probably ripping joints in between classes with their big hair. Well, no, that's what we, so we, I was talking about this. I was talking about this in my stream. Tie-dye. My high school didn't have a bathroom stall doors. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, the bathroom stalls had no doors.

Why? I don't know. People were trying to stop people from smoking or. So you were just shitting and people could just want by me? Like you, there were just toilet. There were several times. There was several times. And it was like in the foyer, like in the middle of the thing.

There was like Wheeling High School, 6-0-0-0-1997, graduates, me. How old were you in 1987? Three. Three. How old were you in 19292? Six. Boys, let me tell you something. I was already a man.

You know what I mean? It's kind of like you're hanging out with three-year-olds then. Right now I'm hanging out with three-year-olds? Yeah. Dude, I would not, in high school I would not have hung out with any of you. Yeah, right. Because you guys were three. Yeah, right.

Maybe Will. Yeah. Maybe Will who was... Could have been a cool six-year-old. Yeah. I was. I was. Talk about Pokemon's a shit.

Anyway, so we didn't have any school stalled doors. And there was... But mostly because of the graffiti problem there, we, for some reason, Wheeling High School was popping. It's like the most poppin suburb in Chicago for the best graffiti writers. That seems self-nominated. Thank you.

It was. So when I tell people that we didn't have any... any stalled doors, people were like, like, feel weirded out. But if you talk about anybody in my high school, everything was like normal. And I'm not talking about Justin the FOIA. I'm talking about every single bathroom. And parents would obviously go there for parents' teachers' conference. And they want to say shit about it.

Well, see, that's weird because like when I go number one, I drop my pants all the way around my ankles. At the urinal? No. Like, well, yeah, urinals anywhere. So, like, I get really embarrassed at baseball football games. Are you serious or not? I can't tell you did or you do. When it's really crowded, they all just see my.

butt cheeks. Wait, do you really? No. Oh my God. I'm going to tell you why I asked. It happened to me once in Mexico. I walked in and some dude was like, was taking a pee and he was literally ankle and I look over and I see just two cheeks. I'm like, yo, I don't remember what I said because I had to have been like

eight years old or something. It's like the old dudes at the gym. He just walk around naked and they put up their legs on top of their benches and just in front of their older dudes. Yeah. Good work out there. You know? Yeah. And they're just fucking. We went. We went Dude.

Bro, we took a tour. Cowboys fit? It was Cowboys fit, wasn't it? Maybe. Or was, no, this was back in Chicago. In Illinois. Bro, we took a tour. It was me, Will, and somebody, Mike, Mike and Embo's.

And we're walking around, and they're like, oh, so these are the facilities. They walk us into the locker rooms, and there's, like, two dudes just, like, walking around naked. Slapping each other five? No, they were just walking. This dude, this dude had a towel on his shoulder. I'm like, yo, put it on your waist, dude. Ain't nobody trying to see.

And it's not like it. it's not like you can force yourself not to look because you look you look yeah we all looked right we kind of got to look and just not make a big deal about it

I even went as far as to go like this I don't I don't look I just purposely look it turn away from it I bro you can't because I like we'll be walking and all of a sudden

you see something you're like it's too late at that one that makes it worse if you don't look what's crazy is that then he's alpha deal. Well shit, consider me alpha.

Yeah. Consider me a beta. Anyway, you guys had stalls in your, uh, doors in your stalls? Yeah. The worst thing is like you couldn't take a, so you have to go to the one all the way in the left so people wouldn't come in and see you taking a shit. Wow. Yeah.

And that's why I've never, I don't, even grosser. That's why I don't do that in public. I go home or I go to the garage. Scarred. I'm scarred. Yeah. Thank God there was literally thank God that there was no phones back. then. There was no cell phones.

Yeah? No, no Instagram. They have the, like, the Polaroid cameras. Like, they come in and just like, and they just had the fucking, like, you're so fuck. Oh, dude. Because I can't wait to post this on the bulletin. At the entrance. I want to make copies.

Yeah, because I'm going to make copies. No, you couldn't make copies. Oh, shit. Could you? You going to take a bunch? Bro, this is how old. I don't know. We were three. Yeah, I don't know. We were a box machine. We were.

Yeah. Fax machine? Yeah. Do you know what a fax machine is? Yeah. Do you know what a fax machine is? I think so. What do you think it is?

It's a number and you send it to the machine and then you can print out like pictures and shit, right? Or like messages. What do you think? It's like when you, if I had a printout and I wanted to send it to you, I could put it in there and send you the printout. Yeah. So it's like a-based machine. Or not a copying machine. It's like a printer that's set up to your phone.

Bro, me and Brandon. Right? Me and Brandon walk. Yeah. Essentially? Me and Brandon walk to the to the apartment complex. and he's dialing this phone. He's like, it's not working.

And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, look, dial it. So I call it. And I'm like, it's a fax machine. He's like, oh, no, look, I'm dialing this one. This is office. This is what's fax? And I'm like, it's a fax machine.

Okay, yeah, see, I wouldn't do that. That's crazy, though. And I believe it, I wasn't even making fun of him because like I understand and I believe that he doesn't know what that is. Yeah, probably that. And then I started telling him and Matt what it was like in high school for me. or as kids not growing up in a place where everybody has cell phones or that you, what was it, what else were we talking about? I don't know.

Because we couldn't find, we couldn't find each other, right? Like the only way that you and your friends got some hang out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right? And I'm like, man, it is, it is good to have grown in that, in that period of time where you didn't know what the internet was. It didn't exist and there was no cell phones. Yeah.

And then learning about it as you're growing and then like experiencing technology and coming from a place. Like my daughter will never not know what technology is. See, I think that my, well, probably our generation was good because like we started getting like phones started coming out like eighth grade and high school. Yeah, like high school. Yeah. Pretty much. Remember like the Motorola razor? Yeah, that was my.

That was my. That was my first phone. That was my first phone. I had the burgundy red one. So sick. I remember I got my, uh, I got my Motorola razor on my way to like baseball practice and I was so hype. I was in like six or seventh grade. You got the end of chocolate.

I was so hype. I was like, yeah, I got a phone. And like it didn't like a functionality of it. It was nothing compared to. Wait, if you call a fax machine, though, what happens? He goes, Tee, te,

do, do, it makes a weird noise, I think. Yeah, it's like a dial-up sound or something. Yeah. So essentially what it is,

Seth, it's like you go to a printer, you put this in the back, you type in a phone number, click send, it scans it and then it prints it on the other side. It's like a text. It's like an email.

It's like a physical. email. It's a physical email. Okay, so I was close. Yeah, very close. Okay. But it got me thinking, like, it is nuts to me that I grew up in an era in which I knew what it was to live without technology and what it was to live post technology. I don't know if Maniac took his iPod that I bought him, but he went away for a little bit and he needed an iPod and he couldn't use anything internet, so he wanted that. And I went. It's $259.

for an 8 gigabyte iPod. Damn. Who was buying that? I did. An iPod? An iPod? Yeah, I've sold for the same price. Yeah.

And you have way more that you can do with it. I know. Why would anyone buy an iPod? Is it like a nostalgia thing? No, he wasn't allowed to. No, I mean, is that way it cost that much? Probably, like a collector sign of. Maybe.

Hopefully. When you grew up, did you have like 12 tracks and 8 tracks? No, we had cassettes Yeah, cassettes. No, but I did grow up Where there was VHs and beta Like, BETA? We know how to spell BETA? Yeah, but you know what it is?

It's like a bigger, I don't even know, but we did have VHS And VHS and VHS was like all the rage. I'm like, you get into a car and they'd be like, Yo, you want to hear some fire? They got a fucking giant CD book. Yeah. Let me flip through this. And you get this fucking D-12 shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I had that too. D-12. I had that too, but for us growing up was like the cassette. and the Walkmans, right? Like, there was like this, like, thin, thin wire that held your, your, uh, your things together. You could hear, you could hear, you could barely hear music. You could hear just like anything, like everything around you. And I remember we were playing back.

The first time I ever fell in love with Bone Thawks in Harmony, there was a Walkman left at the gym. And then I grabbed it. And I'm like, oh, shit, I've never heard of this. And it's a good rap. So I put it on. I walked, I walked with it because it was a Walkman. You stole it? No, it was left there.

It was just finders keepers sort of situation. sure you don't mean I don't think that's how it works I feel that he didn't come back later anyway I was going he probably did he probably did I was listening to it

anyway on the way on the way to school next day on the bus I'm listening to the thing and I look at my boy Angel I'm like yo listen to this shit he's like motherfucker

he's like what you stole this shit from me I'm like that's yours he's like yeah I'm like you can have it back but no it's like you left it there it's fine

I'm like yo what is that and he's like yo that's bone oh shit that's so it's so dope anyway let's get on with the podcast. I remember the first podcast I ever

listened to was the Lost podcast. And it was so informative. And it made my my day that much easier. So I said it was so cool to be that guy that like random strangers listening to. And then I ended up doing my own podcast and winning an award. Look at that. I just reminded me of the nostalgia behind it. Yeah, reminding everyone. Weird, weird, weird, weird. Weird flex. everyone. It wasn't to remind himself.

Oh, yes, I wanted to do podcast, so I did, and I won an award doing it. It's over there. It's over there. Along alongside the other awards that I received. Okay, here we go. Our trophies. Comment from last week's podcast.

K-I-D-S. You guys using kids using kids, K-I-Ds? K-Ds? No, it's K-I-D-S. Oh, what? And he makes sure that he's spelled K-I-D-S. I think that's supposed to be a slash. you guys

because if he's referring to us as kids we're all most of us are grown adults 26 what's KIDS I'm 25 years old I why is it abbreviated the username oh the username

I wouldn't I wouldn't label myself as a kid anymore did you ever see the movie kids I think so I heard kids by Mac Miller yeah well he based it off of this movie I think so who's in it

Rosario Dawson is like the only one that went on oh no several people anyway all right so you You guys using the GME or AMC stocks. Are you in the stock market? No.

And actually, I mean, not to be pessimistic, but I was waiting for the people to finally start tweeting out like, oh shit, I stayed in too long. And I finally started seeing some of those this morning. Yeah, this morning. Were you smiling the way you're smiling right now? No, I just, I just am glad that I didn't get in. That's why I'm smiling. I know myself.

It was such a crazy. It was so hard. It was like temptation to get in. But like everyone, not everyone, but most people know, like, they were gambling, doing that. Yeah, it was right gambling. There was no other way it was going to end. And I am not a gambler at all. So, like, I didn't get in.

I probably would have lost money. The thing is, it's okay for, like, us to lose money because, or, like, any of the celebrities or influencers who were tweeting it out. But most of the people that lost could not afford to lose that money. So it's a little disheartening to see how many, like, people in our people in our people. community because they're just they're playing literally Russian roulette not with their money like if somebody who's rich loses five grand who gives a fuck but most of the people

following who like had a bunch of people sign up for the Wall Street some of them lost like a lot of money one guy messer me this morning he lost like $8,000 that he could not afford to lose that's crazy yeah what did you tell him I mean what can you say tell somebody I mean I just apologize that he fell for it

but yeah that sort of thing is not like I texted I texted my guy and I said, I'm like, what's up? Robin Hood don't work? What should I use? And he says, L.O.L. Don't buy that shit. His name is Big Willie Johnson. Oh, that was me. I thought you were talking about the other guy. No, no, no. What did your guy tell you? What do you tell him about it?

He said, I would rather you went to the blackjack table and threw a hundred on black. What did your other guy tell you? I have one guy. Well, I have one guy that I speak to. The other guy does his own thing. Uh-huh. And you didn't hit it. him up and they're like, are you getting in this? I don't really have a direct line of contact. Yeah, I saw it.

And I would have done it just for just the same way that I did the, the Pokemon stuff. Right. Just to do it, just to see what's up. But everyone, everyone was tweeting like. Bose apparently is in Dodge big, in Doge. I try to talk some sense. He says he's got a few hundred thousand coins.

You try to talk them out of it? Yeah, but I think it's up. It's up. How long do you think he should say it? And also, I've- No comment. He actually just reminded me at gambling. Just seeing his reaction right there,

it was like we just bumped into him at a casino and he was like, I'm up right now. You know what I'm saying? The thing is a lot of people, like when shit like that happens, a lot of people ask me, like what should I do? How long?

Most of the time, like 99% of the time, I don't know what the fuck of stock is going to do, especially in these situations. Like the difference between trading stocks and doing it for a living and like what this is, it's like two totally separate worlds. So as much as I want to get on Twitter and be like,

don't do this. I just fucking stay out of it. I don't fucking. Yeah, fuck it. Do what you want. Your money. I mean, I've lost already investing once. And people always say, it's good to get rocked in the face once so you know.

Right. And I lost money in something. I'm not going to say what. But I lost money in something. Wang Chang? Why expose? I just said I'm not going to say what. Well, say it goes and exposes it.

Well, we'll say it was how most people learn, though. You could have said no. No, not that one. The other one. Well, what am I? I'm not going to lie. I mean, you put me on the spot. What am I?

No. Yes. It was Wong chain, which still has, it has long-term potential still. I've been reading up about it, so I'm just holding, hoping it goes back up. Okay, that's Jordy. That's part of the process. I regained some of my investment. I mean, I didn't lose all of it.

I lost, like, 66% of my original. Jesus. But now I know, like, not to take risks like that, you know? So it sucks for people that, like, thought this was the big thing and their scheme to get rich fast. And they threw all their money at it and lost. But a lot of people knew that it was coming. Yeah. But if you're uninformed and you're just following influencers who are trying to push their own narratives, like, buy this.

Yeah. Buy this so I can make money, you know? Like, that's what a lot of people were doing. That's what it's the only people were doing. How much do you think Elon has in Bitcoin? Because there's nothing in his profile name or anything is just as Bitcoin. Yeah. Wait, really?

Starting this morning, he's taking a Twitter hiatus after a week of, like, pump, and fucking game stop and Big Point everything that's crashing now. This morning he's stepping away from Twitter. Just for a little bit just to see how it feels. Yeah. See, then that's like... It's probably got so much big money.

It's messed up, but a lot of people... Super messed up. He's like, I'm even more richer than fucking Bezos now. He called him. He's like, yo, did you get in on GME? He's like, I did. That's the thing too is a lot of people thought they were like sticking it to hedgewood.

Like I get the movement and like, you know, a lot of people felt left behind. But the thing is like, sure, you may have blown up like one short focused hedge fund, but there were just as many, if not more players in Wall Street who were long game stop and using that as a situation to make money. So

net net, Wall Street did not lose. Again, the people that lost were the ones that And it's making other stocks plummet too. Because what's happening is that the banks that are covering this thing now have to collect on something. And they don't obviously have the money to, you know, a lot of them don't have the money to, you know, pay the

dues that are there. So they have to sell good stock. Right. making that stock, you know, have consequences too. I've always said that's the one thing that I'd like to learn that I don't know yet. Sam. Same. I'll be hit you on the next couple of years for sure. The thing I would like to explain it to people. Like people ask me about it, but it's like,

you can't do it when you're gaming because the markets over. There's no chance. That's the thing is like it would take so much time and focus away from what you guys do. Like the people who are good at it and do it for a living, they're fucking, I mean, you guys, I'm fucking obsessed with it. Like, and you have to be upset. Just like you guys are with cod,

people are like that with trading. So when people ask me, I'm like, I'll teach you, but are you ready? Like, you don't want to trade for 15 hours a day for like two years. Like, there's no way you want to do that. Oh, of course.

That's crazy. It takes that much. Oh, yeah, it takes a long time because you have to learn stuff like that. That's how a lot of people get started. They'll just start gambling and then they'll lose and be like, oh, shit. Now I'm interested.

Now let me start learning. and that starts the path that takes, like, yeah, long, long time. The meme stocks, Robin Hood-Betting stocks for volatility. Obviously, like, this podcast, like, about a week too late in talking about this thing because of, like, all the repercussions. But now you've seen the amount of people that are suing this thing. Oh, yeah.

Was it, did it, did it, is it as big of an inside job as it looked? I don't think so. Like, I don't pretend to know Robin Hood's business model, but it wasn't, like, it wasn't just Robin Hood. And they said you can't train anymore? Yeah. that those stocks. You couldn't buy on certain mornings.

It's because they think it's because, like, Robin Hood sells a lot of their order flow to Citadel and Citadel was the hedge fund that was losing. So they're like, oh, let's help Citadel. Maybe there was, like, a small sliver of that. But Robin Hood was not the only broker that stopped trading. There was a bunch of interactive brokers, Weeble. There was a ton. It has something to do with, like, settlement periods.

And, you know, anytime somebody places a trade, you know, it takes, like, two days for it to settle. And the clearing houses and people that, actually make the trades work and, you know, clear from one person to another. They require, like, deposits and a lot of money. So there's a whole complicated. It's called, like, the plumbing system of Wall Street, and it's fucking very complicated. And I'm sure most of it was a liquidity issue. And Robin Hood didn't want their fucking firm to, like, die.

They've raised, like, $3 billion, I think, in capital. So there was a serious problem. It was not, like, oh, I'm buddies with this guy. Let me stop people. It was not bad. That's crazy. But that's what everybody thinks of it. For those who...

And the internet mob is not very nice. Yes. If it's not in your favor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's nuts. They get rowdy. If one person's like them... That's why I didn't say shit.

I was like, if you're a traitor, this is great because you know what to do. If you're not, then know the risks. Did you make money? Oh, yeah. Really? He said, he said, oh, yeah. Yeah, I know. I feel like he cached.

I mean, people that actually trade. He's like his God champs. That's literally the... You just won chance? It's like a week of a game. Old champs, yeah. Oh, shit. We're getting a little inside.

People that trade know what to do in those situations. That stuff actually happens all the time. Like, stocks that go crazy amounts, you just don't hear about it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it's good week. It's insane. Well, I'm happy that somebody close to us is doing it.

Because otherwise, like, I wouldn't know as much as I know about it just because. I wouldn't either if it wasn't. I mean, you remember the weed shit. It was the same, same shit. Just seven years later, eight years later. I had just, I'm fortunate to have already seen that happen like nine, ten times. I know the movie and how it ends. So you just, just applied it.

Yep, reapplied it. Jesus. Pokemon cards. You played a lot of Pokemon. You played a lot of Pokemon Go. Did you guys play it? Don't say he played Pokemon. He did.

No, he did. No, I watched him play Pokemon. I played Pokemon Go when his girl was into it. And he played minimally. Don't say he played Pokemon, yeah. He doesn't know shit about Pokemon. He made me walk-wans from Macal... like to a back of a macalister

Doug trio fucking catterpee fucking Pokemon Ratatat Radat Ratat Ratat Ratat Ratatat Ratat Radicate Matat Matatatat Radicate Machamp He never experienced Pokemon Blue

Pokemon Red on a Gameboy Did you? Yeah, fuck yeah And you actually like you have more unlocked on your Pokemon goal than he does? Oh fuck yeah What the fuck? Our accounts aren't even comparable No He's got nothing

He has nothing I only played for like a month I played it for a while Yeah you won pro He still plays I could probably be a pro Yeah He's got nothing

No He's got like one squirrel on like That's it I was what the fuck I don't even own squirrels anymore They're all blast horses That all pump the fuck out Yeah yeah

Anyway so So growing up you guys You guys Have any any cards My brother did My brother did I don't know if he has them still But I remember my brother had like

Wheyer, the handsome super popular super athlete. I mean, yeah, when he was a kid, trading cards was a lot more during his time period than I was true. So he like had, he had Pokemon. I think I got into Yu-Gi-o a little bit. I did too. You know, you're going next or you don't think?

No, no. I got into Magic the Gathering when I was like 13. Whoa, that's where I draw the line. I did not get into math. I played, I played, I played shoots and ladders. I mean, I wasn't. I was 13. I just thought it was cool.

There were some weird ones back then. You remember like Bayblade? You guys what I'm talking about? Bayblade. Let it rip. Let it rip. They have these little fucking toys. These little, these little, these little twisty tolerance. And they just spin and hit each other.

Yeah. No. Or Digimon. Digimon was a flop. You guys what I'm talking about? No. This is the same. Oh, it flopped. It flopped. Digimon was horrible. I don't remember a single Digi- Yeah. Digimon was horrible. It was horrible. Yeah, just like a different world

from Pokemon. Yeah. Where like you have like, you have this thing from like birth and you like grow it up. You only have like one thing. They were just so stupid. They were just so stupid. So what I'm trying to. to make their money. What I was thinking of that is like, think about the amount of kids that grew up doing that,

and think about the amount of, I mean, think about the amount of people that got into it and grew up to a lot of them being super, super successful. I think it was Logic that bought like a $400,000 card or something, a Charzard. And I'm like, okay, that dude grew up as a massive fan of Pokemon. And then now that he can afford the Pokemon, like he went out and got it. So like it's, you know, it's as nerdy as it is. And we play video games, obviously, for a living. so I don't think it gets nerder than that.

What? It's not nerdy. It's cool. Yeah, it's cool, obviously. Nowadays, it's cool as hell. Yeah, it's video games before it was cool. You guys weren't. Anyway, long story short,

I got convinced by my friend Hitch, who's sitting over there, to buy into, what do they call? Break cards? Break boxes? Yeah, like just box sets and, like, booster boxes, and shit like that. Yeah, and I was thinking about it.

since I did it, I started thinking about the cards and what, and I think I'm like, I have cards when I was in high school from basketball, right? I have a bunch of Jordans, et cetera. And I'm thinking, I'm like, man, it's been almost 30 years and they're still around. And if you go back even further, like, this thing is never going away.

What is going to go away, though, is the boxes. Because as many first edition bass sets or whatever, there are, like, there's not going to be some in the future. demand, which drives demand, yeah. It's like, it's a ticking time. Because they're not going to reprint that. Yeah, but wouldn't the prices just go up on the boxes then?

Yeah. Yeah, so why wouldn't you just buy a box and just hold on to it? I am. This sounds like GameStop, but with Pokemon cards. It's, it's gambling as well. Because you buy, like, Hector bought into a break and he bought two, two breaks? So I bought two, yeah, I bought two breaks now. But at the time, so Clacer went out and bought a box of base, first edition,

base set. I don't know how to fucking say it. It was like a Team Rocket. Team Rocket something. Okay. And he, and Hitch like added me in it because I was asking him about that earlier. And he's like,

if you buy one packet for 900 bucks, there's opportunities in there for you to get a card to sport. And Hector obviously won. He got like one of the best cards of the whole party. You got like a really good card. Yeah, as long as it's, as long as it's a PSA 10.

That's like the most important thing. You can get like a really rare card. PSA 10 means it's in perfect condition, right? Oh shit. And that, that it takes the price from like fucking 10,000. How much is it costs? to get it graded as well.

That's a question. An expedited one is $250. $250. But you can send it in and take like a couple of months for $90. I didn't know. Is that expensive?

Yeah. See, like that costs money right there to send it in and... But you can do multiple cards at once, though, no? I think it's per card. I don't know. No way. No way.

I see people sending like boxes or fucking cards. I mean, maybe they know they have the overhead. They just... But are these brand new cards or are they old cards? They're old cards that have never been open yet. They've never been open yet. They've just been holding onto the box. That's why they're so expensive now.

Yeah, if we added another microphone, like Hitch could explain it a little bit better. But it, anyway, long story short, it's not hard. It's not, luck story short. Cards are old. There's not, they don't make these cards anymore. There's also nostalgia with it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like our generation now is like, you know, it's, there's very nostalgic.

But you got a good one. What'd you, what is it? It's a dark magneton. It's a dark magneton. Let me see that bad book. Oh, I thought he got blasters. No. A black last one.

Let me take it out of the pack and the sleeve. leave. So you can really see it. I actually do want to see it because I haven't really seen like crazy cards in real life. Careful with like that card. That card's like not very crazy. Like a dark charades are like what you wanted out of that pack or like a dark blastoys. But the hitch got it because it's just the pattern. But not a hollow. Oh. I just learned that. Like the card can be rare just because of the pattern it has. Like it has the seat in the top right of it is like a swirl. Yep. Like that shit's like really rare. Like that should like really rare. Like that should have like some like you know what? So not all of them have that same type of. Exactly. Exactly. So you look for like the. So you look for like the the painting. What about like the

centering? The actual abilities? Is that? No, that should have the center. But like the centering of the thing, because it's all a different design. And that right there is worth $6,500 if it's PSA 10. That shit is dope. So, so Clay's selling it for $900 or if you buy two, you'll give you $50. $6,500.

I couldn't pass off to $50. $6,500. If it's, $6,500. If it's in PSA 10, which I think it is. I think that's a piece. Everybody that's seen it up close has said the same thing. That's so crazy. Oh, so you don't know. It doesn't say on there if it's PSA. That card is seven brand. Getting a graded is what, like,

get that thing away from me. It's so bizarre to me that a card, and there's cards worth, you know, multiple. Dude, I could get, I could get two pairs of Piet Paras,

Air Max, you know what I mean? We get it, you have a massive shoe collection. Weird. Guess what I'm wearing. What? My Nike,

Nike Runner Boo six. Nice, dude. Wait, those are whales, too. Are these yours? What are they? I think I stole these from you, too. I don't think I've ever owned those.

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure those are yours. Maybe. Get jumped. Get jumped. How do you feel that I stole your... My sweatpants? I'm real upset about that.

Yeah, I stole the sweatpants. Is this just now? That's the only thing that fits me. So a week ago... My big ass. Hitch just sent me this. Mickey Mantle, baseball card shatters record,

and sells for $5.2 million. That's what I was saying. What type of cards because of this Pokemon thing are people not on? The 1952 Tops Mickey Mantle PSA 9, okay? It's a grading system that ranges from 1 to 10. PSA, okay. Took the record from one of one of one, one of one, one of one, Mike Trout rookie card that's so forth,

3.94 million in August is believed that there are only six PSA nines of that Mano card still in existence. Rob Goh, the actor, anyway, $5 million. I think that is the rarest card in the world for the Mickey Mantle. So obviously you have this, right? Like this is the, this is what e-sports is to traditional sports. Same thing, right?

This is the video game version of sports cards. Pretty much. Yeah. And people who grew up playing, I mean, think about the generations now that have been, they've been growing up for the last decade, that have been watching video game players, streamers, influencers, whatever. Like, this is what's going to be valuable to them, not the Lebrons or the, or the garnets or whatever.

So that's why, when I say this and when I started looking at it, I'm like, there's no chance that this ever goes away. Like, it's been around for so long. Well, until all the cards are gone. Exactly. Well, that's where. And then it's over. That's where it is.

And then it's just going to be a market of people buying and selling cards. I have a lot of stuff up there from the 90s. I got like 2001 shits from, or 2011 stuff from, uh, or 2011 stuff from, uh, of duty. I collect my stuff. So for me to get this and just put it away forever, like, I'm, I got all the patience. What's your, what's your most valuable collectible, you think? I'd probably say like that, that optic formal. Good looks. You know what I'm saying? That optic formal, uh, figurine. I don't know. It depends, right? To me,

to me, the most valuable stuff will probably be in one of those two boxes and I'll probably have to go with the obey, with the obey figuring that's in that box. That's for me. Because, I mean, it all depends, like, what's your favorite thing? Like, those cans, the Mountain Dew cans with all your faces?

Like, that's one of one. Like, yeah. How about that newspaper over there? Woothing, declares, war? Those are art. Those are... Yeah. But I'm keeping them. We will reclaim them. Yeah, yeah, at one point. But it's the same thing that I told Natchat. Look, Natchat is like the most careless dude when it comes to stuff

like this. Oh shit, you're not in that. I'm not even on that. That's why I was like, what? What are you talking about? You're not even on them.

PJ Hallie got a can. Too. I three-oed that dog shit team. Dude. Bad too. Yeah. You got a can. Nice cans.

Oh, damn, dude. I forgot. I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The Mixwell

Call of Duty Razor Mouse. That's valuable. That's what he won E-League with for us. That's one of eight llamas up there. Those are my original, well, not me original Air Force X-1 Turtle Beaches. Like that's what... That's pretty dope. That's what I started playing Call of Duty with.

That's old. Yeah. I would probably have to say the Aesop Rock first and second CDs. He's my favorite rapper of all time. So, like, those are the first ones. I got a full... I mean, dude, I got... So anyway, back to this, like, I'm good at collecting.

I'm good at saving stuff. You know what I mean? Like, where is your first gold medal? Pennsylvania. Where's yours? It's actually... I have one year. Is I lost it, or I didn't lose it, but I didn't know where it was for a long time.

My mom made me a birthday present, like my most recent birthday. And she came in and it was like his fucking, like, frame with the metal and like a bunch of shit. And I was like, what the fuck? That's dope as well. What's your second one? In my theater. Oh, it is hung up? No, it's just sitting.

Okay. Okay. This is. And the chain isn't even attached. That's exactly what I mean, though. Like, I would take more care of that than you do. I know it's at. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like nature, right, I told them, I'm never going to give your gold medal until you buy a house. Because I know how you are, and I know that that's not going to affect your way of thinking about it. To get thrown in a corner, maybe forgotten about it. I held his 2011 trophy from Kat Champs for the longest time, and he finally got it in his office, right? Like, I knew that he was going to lose it.

He's moved how many times? He's lost a bunch of dope. shit. Where I take good care of the stuff. Anyway, moving on. So anyway, I'm buying a box. Are you going to buy one? Are you going to buy a pack? It's $1,000. Yes?

I'm on the pack. Maybe two. Okay. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Like, if I was really into Pokemon, obviously, I would do it. Are you really into making money? Are you into buying something for 100 and selling it for two? It's not guaranteed. It's for a living in 200 and buy it at 100. It's not guaranteed.

It doesn't know what you just said it backwards? You could buy it for $1,000. and knock it Didley. Yeah. What do we say? Especially with that attitude, Will, you know what I'm saying? And Deadly's not a Pokemon. We were watching, we were watching this live.

We were watching this live and what did we say? So we're getting something dope. Oh, yeah. And then you did it. And we did. We put it out there. We manifested it. Yeah, we manifested it.

And the way that he unboxing it too, he's like, all right, we're not going to see it. It's like you're playing 21, right? You're playing a hand of blackjack and it's that. You double down and you want to see it? You don't know what I don't want to see it. You don't know what I mean? And then they flip it. Where do we just go play Blackjack?

That sounds fun. Yeah. It's the same shit. I like this better because it lasts longer. And it's cool. Like the feeling right now, like in Blackjack, they'll pay you right away and you want like, okay, you want. However amount. It could be $100,000, could be $2,000.

You can hold on to that. This? I'm still, I'm still like hype about the fact that I have. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Jude's like, don't fucking sell it. Really? Yeah.

Yeah, don't. I mean, it'll go up in value. Yeah, but I mean, I could roll that into some Kparas that are also going to be. I would say yeah, but I mean, I'm not really too attached to a magnetone. Like if it was a Charzard, I would say hold on to it. Yeah. But it's a magneton. I'm going to, I am going to have in the next break that I do, because I just bought three more with some other dude, I'm going to get a black Charzard.

Is that I think? Like a shiny one? The Dark Charzard? Yeah, dark Charzard. There you go. You're talking about the black Charzard. The black Charzard. That means it's shiny.

He's charred. He's shiny. That's the most expensive card. No, no, no. The most expensive card, I believe, he's a first. First Edition base set Charzard. Davis. Davis.

What's most expensive Pokemon card? Most expensive Pokemon card. Not the Illustrator Pikachu. Not the illustrated Pikachu. The Charzard, the first edition base set. Yeah, that's what I was saying to. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to have one of those. I'm going to roll this into one of those. I'd be fucking so high. Where would we put it, like, right up there? Dude. It melts. Right there under the hex quarters in between that wiring case. Oh, because I'm going to get one of those before I get a

million gold plaque million that's messed up you know there's a bunch of stuff what are we at how much time have we are real on it rolling okay so we had a couple of questions

from the fans that watched the podcast thank you to those who's submitted questions I'm going to ask them right now and then we're going to go into the whole stuff that's been happening with just shit that's happened Okay. Do you think that kids should be, I'm sorry, do you think that KDs, because it says kids here, do you think that KDs should be compared based on roles or not?

Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I guess. They're different positions. I say yes. They're different positions. Because I'm the bomb planner, okay? Okay. Okay.

That's not a position. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Objective? I'm the OBJ. How am I not a position, Seth? Who plans the bomb for you, guys? Depends on the round.

Yeah, it depends. Sometimes I'll take it. What? The person that can't shoot as straight as the others usually take it. No, I need to be let loose in search. And I think that everyone's seen that. Do you answer your question, though? I mean, yeah, obviously, Katie should be switched by role.

Like, me and him should be comparable in our KDs. Right. He's an XM4. I have an XM4. I have an XM4. Wait, so his role does A.R. versus SMGs? Are you talking about it?

Yeah, I think there's a thing. It shouldn't be. ARs and SMG should not be in the same. So you're saying the cards that are ranking you 98, and it had the, you're right, It did have aggressiveness in there. Yeah. That's an AR, right. But like if it was something else, like patience.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like an AR should have. I'd be in 99. Not absolutely. I'd have negative. Oh, yeah, you might be in the negatives. I'd be in the negatives. You yeah, you might be.

Yeah, yeah. I would have like five. Five patients. Five? All right. So yes. The answer is yes, people should be based on. But nobody in the, at this level of game are, are.

I'm saying nobody. Okay. You're right. There are some players. There are playing for kids. Katie, you're right. And we've seen that most recently in a game of S&D that could have easily been won, but somebody wanted to get a kill instead.

Oh, yeah. We won't say who. But anyway, Demon Budgie, Carter Schrader is the one that asked that one. Demon Budgie says, do you think that people are getting too soft call a duty constantly pushing to be kind to be the greatest part about God is talking shit between S&D routes? Use a comma, dude. He's basically saying, do you think that people are getting soft in Call of Duty because constantly pushing to be kind? but to me the greatest part about Cod is talking shit between us and DROD.

Who's pushing to be kind? Yeah, I'm sorry, what? Like, who's... He's saying people are... The general public? Or pros? Talking shit less pros to each other? Is it pros?

I don't know. We haven't played on land. I mean, if you're speaking of pros, I mean, I feel like we've all known each other for so fucking long now. Like, no one should get that butter. It's like the video that we put out, you know, a couple of ago.

Like, I mean, like, if you know me and Seth for a long time, you know what I'm saying? We've all been in the shit for so long. Yeah. If you're getting that hurt, then you're just, you're just soft. You know what I'm saying? Because we've all shot shit at each other. It's been so long.

Like everyone's talk shit to each other at one point or another and meant it. You know what I'm saying? Now it's just like, we've known each other for so long. We know we're going to play against each other. Like, even if we lose champs last year. Yeah. I mean, we're going to play your champs next year too. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. It's like, it's just a cycle. Like, we're just going to keep playing each other over and over again. Yeah. So if you're just getting tight over random comments and you're just soft as a person. They do like to talk shit in between S&D rounds I mean I don't know I don't know how I mean I wish we could do that

I'd be fucking alright Stand up well I guess you do Stand up 1 oh you're up 1 oh You fucking suck Like this You would go up 2 oh You suck even more

What do you We did talk shit at champs In between on Crusher Oh yeah Remember we were up like 4% We were super good We didn't say a single word Until we were up 2O

And the second best 5 Yeah Because like at that point Like I didn't want to say anything after the first one because I was like we can still lose the shit yeah yeah but then we're up to own the second of those five was like it's fucking over that was like oh shit we all all of us are saying that's screaming

you're like you guys fucking suck yeah that would have been joke that that would have it's so bad yeah that is the worst that is the worst that's the epitome of gb kids we we stomped on some gb kids yesterday and they started shooting on the next game it doesn't matter it's neither here or there anyway those

about gb kids shooting his body right yeah i do Soft-ass motherfucker. Yeah, I get tight. They were getting had, too. I'm not. Yeah, towards the end of the week, I get nasty here. He has moments. I do have my moments.

If these could keep up with this, don't stop. I'd start myself. I don't know who I'm going to, who I would sit out of all of you, though. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying.

I was feeling on my wrist. I think I got tendonitis in my shit. Watching you, yeah. I think it's from a lot of golf, though. Like, you ever squeeze your fist and you feel like a knot, Like bubble up in the... No. And none of that?

No. Okay. Yeah, it's... It's probably something. I've been to the driving range like every day for like 10 days. But I guess that... Could just be, you know, your conditions. It's your muscles getting strong.

Oh, that's possible. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go with that. It could be a thing. It's getting broken down. It's going to come back strong. So yesterday...

Yesterday, something happened. And I guess this happens in e-sports a lot, too. But it started in games. What I don't like about e-sports is that there's a lot of people. out there who spectate and they said, why are people booing the competitors? You know, like, why are people booing them when they come out? It was like, well, that happens in sports every single day when the opposing team comes out.

He's like, yeah, but it's a mutual grounds thing. Yeah, but the fans are going to support who they support. You're going to choose someone, yeah. Anyway, last night, Courtside Karen. Have you heard of that? No. Have you heard of court side Karen? I saw it this morning.

LeBron got into some words with some dude. Allegedly. There's not even any person. Right. Like she could be fabricating the whole thing. There wasn't a video? No. Oh.

Well, there was a video of her getting kicked out. There wasn't a video. Oh, I didn't see it. I find a hard to believe it. There wasn't a video of LeBron and her talking if there was something. You know what? No. What ended up...

She could have said some dumb shit and then just made up a story. Yeah. Like, you know, it's like... Well, she got kicked... Her and her husband got kicked out. So she was talking to LeBron. I think LeBron was talking shit to her husband? Yeah.

And then she like stepped in and then. No, no, no. But think about what you just said. LeBron was talking shit to her husband I think I don't know Think about what it would take for a professional basketball player To actually say something Be like

Yeah You Your shoes are garbage What the fuck are you wearing Get the fuck off my car The guy said some shit The dude said something to Braun He did for sure

Right You think about And then Lebron And then Lebron fucking Looked at him and said It's like You pay to see me play You're watching me

Look at my bank account You know, that's LeBron saying. Yeah. So then the wife stands up for LeBron and starts calling a pussy-ass bitch. Wait, sent it for LeBron or for her husband? Oh, for her husband. Oh, for her husband? She was like, she said it for LeBron.

She's like, you fucking bitch. And essentially, like, they ended up. You, LeBron? They ended up getting kicked out, and she made like this massive fuss about it. If a player's telling you to get kicked out, like, if there's incident, you should get kicked out. Because if they're drinking on quarter one, on the first quarter, they're only going to get drunker as the game progresses and it's only going to get more egregious

it's only going to get more egregious and I'm not just going to sit there like what if somebody throws something at me I'm not going to fucking just sit there and take it court you go run our test on them I would see like even that right even that

if if there's a fan that's trying to fight me a super athlete I got size on them zero chance that I'm going to let anybody try to step up to me like that I'm like okay I'm feeling threatened by you I'm here to do my job you're just here to spectate me doing my job. Bing.

You know what I mean? And it would have been, it would have been justified. Okay, courtside, Karen, here is the video for you to look at

and, wait, is Ron Arta's the same guy as Meta World Peace? Yes. Okay, so I haven't seen that video. It wasn't.

He was a lot of fighting a fan, right? He was on the Lakers? You just started swing on someone? Somebody. Some dude walked up to him a little short,

chubby guy. He just started swinging on them, right? Yeah, he started kicking him. Yeah. See? I don't believe. I don't think,

I don't think, just cap. I don't believe that. That was cap. That's what I'm saying. Like, even the way she tells it, I don't believe a word she said. That was the most cap I've ever seen in my life. What the fuck? Bro, it was, I don't know. There needs to be some kind of video evidence of those two talking. Yeah. There is a video of her court side. I didn't watch it all. I don't know. No, there is. But I mean, again, if they're not talking and like they're, you know, getting into it? Yeah, roasting each other. Then it's like, how can you believe that? LeBron said is like, I'm having this, this disagreement with this dude. And it's just like the relationship of a, a player and a heckler, right? And I'm having, and all of a sudden this other person steps in and turns it into something that wasn't. And it could have been just that, right? It could have been LeBron feeding into that

that player heckler relationship just because it's part of the fun or whatever. They don't have any fans in the stands. They don't have any, you know, so that relationship. Oh, that's even worse. There's nobody there. Yeah. So you can like really hear. This guy probably said something stupid. You know who's the worst heckler in the world? My brother. I

I hate going to play. I hate going to events with him. He'll talk shit to everyone. And I'm just like, dude, shut the fuck up. Like players on the door? Really? Yeah, he'd be like, oh, he's like,

oh my God, nice pants, dude. And I'll be like, yo, shut up. And you're embarrassing me. He's like, just like, fucking move then. I'm like, I'm not, I bought the season. I'm going to fuck him by season. Anyway, I don't know. I just, I, that I think is being

blown out of proportion because of social media and her going crazy on social media. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. But until I see the video, I'm not going to pass judgment on either side. Yeah. You know, because, you know, the guy could have said, good game, LeBron, and it rhymes with something else.

And then don't think about it. Don't think about it. Let's just move on. I thought of a good one. Whatever. Yeah. He wasn't. Yeah, that's it. YouTube comments.

We read them all. Any closing comments for this episode? If somebody said, if somebody yelled at you at an event. I used to get all the time of HAL events. There were a lot of halo hecklers. Yeah. They'd stand behind you on Peter Station. I remember after we got reverse swept in Atlanta?

Some guy was backstage and he said, long flight home. And I was like, slowly two hour of flight. Who said that? Why don't you tell me? Just some random guy. And I was in the middle of dapping up temper and banks. Like, good games. Congrats to you guys.

Like I'm winning. And then some random dude, like, walk past us and was like, long flight home. Wait, I think I remember that. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck? I was like, what's your deal? It's one of like the phase dudes is not too well known. Like,

Fakes like Trixy or some shit. Yeah. It could have been, but he was backstage, so I was like, maybe that was like one of them talking. In my mind, I rationalized it as it was probably one of the phase guys talking shit.

And I was already talking to them. So I like kind of just look backwards, didn't really even look and then continue. I do remember that though. I would have been mega confrontational about that. I was like, I mean, I said,

what the fuck? That I turned around. But like, Will, did you ever get heckled? It's kind of hard to heckle at it. Unless someone's sitting in the state. The guy in Happy Gilmore.

You're like looking up. The guy in Happy Gilmore, you're just like, you suck, jackass. I'll meet you in the parking lot, McGavin. He's got a nail to get on me again. Oh, man. All right. Well, that's going to do it for this episode. Episode number 11 of the Optic Podcast.

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