OpTic Podcast - THE BEST TRASH TALKER IN COD HISTORY | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 26

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

This week we have HECZ, MBoZe, MaNiaC, and Hitch on The OpTic Podcast to talk about their pick for the best Call of Duty player of all time, the greatest athletes of all time, and their professional careers. Leave a comment and question below to be featured in the next episode! Audio Only: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG THE BEST TRASH TALKER IN COD HISTORY | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 26 0:00 - Best Athletes of all time, Best COD player of all time 17:30 - Seth leaving OpTic 29:00 - Best Teammates, Coaches in COD? 38:34 - Disqualified in COD for shooting bodies 45:15 - YouTube Gaming vs Twitch 58:26 - UFO's Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who know where Seth would be at right now? No, you don't know. That's the fucked up part. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy stuff came back. That's fucking that. He was like, should we take him back?

Man, I don't know if I... What? What? Yes. Right. I literally put in the chat. Listen, I don't want a game in between. Y'all got to pick this.

Hell no. Welcome back to another episode of the Optic podcast. Here we are. Episode 26. Going to be a... 26 weeks straight there. Dallas Jordan's not. surprising.

It was not. No. Yo, did you, yo, did you, look, again, I,

I agree 100%. 100%. LeBron is a God on the court. Here we go. Here we go. He is. But.

I mean, there's obviously a but, but I'm just saying, like, the amount of people that, like, complain about how he flops while, like,

standing them for the line. Like, Jacob just said, Jacob literally tweeted out, I'm still a LeBron stand. Like, Stan. Like, stand. Like,

like, I'm still the bronze stand. Okay? And then he goes out to say, but the dude's like 6,8, 270, and every single time somebody touches him, it's like the whole world came to an end for him. Explain that.

I just wish he had a little bit more killing him, like just a little bit more just like. He might. We just don't. You know what? I don't watch that off. But what? He doesn't have killing him because he, quote, unquote,

flops. Well, there's not a quote unquote. He flop. There's a ton of people in all sports that flop. But people like to just point out LeBron. People not in the 90s. People will call, people will call Cristiano Ronaldo the best soccer player of all time.

And nobody in the world flops more than that dude. Yeah. Many people. What's his name? I've seen, I've seen clips of Ronaldo flopping when nobody even like touches him. It's just, I've seen that. I've seen that.

I mean, actually the Namar clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I'm a big fan of all of them. I'm just saying, I'm not saying. I don't care, I don't care if they flop. I'm just saying Jordan never flop. Yeah, but Jordan wasn't as good either.

That, that also doesn't make, like, flopping shouldn't be, like, it's like a tactic. It's like a skill. I don't want to say a skill to the game. It's something that, I mean, I'm not defending it down. I mean, like, you know, like, he gets a breath. Like, people. Exactly. People do it as a strategy.

It's a tactic. And, fuck, all right. I've been running back and forth, please. Let me just sit for a second. People are behind the keyboard and they can't walk up the stairs without going out of breath. And they're watching these dudes run, sprint back and forth down at court for 20 minutes straight. And then a dude flops and everybody gets to rest for 45 seconds. You do a hard-ass play.

You go down. The shit hits the backboard comes back. You go like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? Is this a point in it? We just scored. If we're going to talk who's better, Jordan or look. We're not.

We're not talking about it. We're not. But like, what makes Jordan better? He's not better. He's not better than LeBron. I promise you he's not. I watch LeBron. If you watch LeBron like just watch like a whole LeBron.

I mean, it's like a thing. He's a better basketball. What was this? Michael Jordan might be more of a killer. But a better basketball player, like, it's LeBron. So when you, you're growing up, you're growing up Washington Jordan. You're growing up watching Jordan. What were people saying?

Who were people comparing Jordan to? No one. He made a lane of his own. That can't be true. Obviously, Magic Johnson. Right. So there had to have been an argument back in the day where it's like at the, you know, there was no argument back in the day. The second he stepped foot on the court, they're like he's the best of all time. He's like, well, yeah, bro, nobody moves like him, nobody shoots like him. Nobody makes his team around him better. Yeah. So there was never like a Jordan or magic. Like maybe in the beginning. Like in the beginning. Like in the beginning of his career. Yeah. Look, it's, it's a, it's a, this is my thing. Okay. This is going to be my thing. There are going to be people. It's like saying, who's better, Simp or scump?

Right. I agree. Yeah. And for us, it's easy. It's like scum. Yeah. But for people that watched in the last two years are like SEMP. Yeah. Because they never saw like, let me, let me simplify it, right?

Like who was better? Like if you put, uh, 9, uh, well, 2013 scump, right, versus Simp now. Like who's, who's better? Still Simp, probably. So you're just making that up. You literally making that up. But I'm talking like straight skill. Like it just evolves.

It's different. Like LeBron's more skilled and better. basketball than Jordan. Yes. But it's a very, very, it's just a bad argument, to be honest, because it's so, like people, I don't know. It's just different generations. It is different.

It is generation. Everyone's getting better basketball. There's probably multiple people better than Jordan. I think so, too. Skill-wise, just being basketball-wide. That's what I'm saying is like the 96 Bulls were way ahead of their time, but that time has caught up, in my opinion. That's what, that's all I've meant by all of this.

is like if you put the 96 bulls in their prime are going to be clear in the court and like like are you telling me the 96 bulls are going to the finals today? Today? Yeah. No. No. You don't know that. They'll be up there. I mean, I wouldn't win.

They were so far ahead of their time that yes, they would compete nowadays which is already like typical. Like that's already super impressive. I know what you mean. But I don't think they're like there's no way that they game 20 years ago is as good as the game now. I mean, people are saying, yeah, the defense and all the

rest. Shut. I mean, these dudes on the court now are monsters. Yeah, I agree. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just paint them. Right. But I'm saying like if you walk by one 30 years ago, it would still be tall, but you wouldn't be like, all right. chat i mean everybody that's watching this comment section down below i know there are people that are just me i'm gonna take jordan i'm gonna take he doesn't even i'm gonna take he doesn't even i don't care it's like say it's like say who's who's who's i mean i don't even know what to the new people are always going to be better so it's like it's a pretty dumb argument like in every sport i mean it's in it's a very it's a very condensed version you're telling me you're

telling me right now it's a wilder the gypsy all of these heavyweights could be Mike Tyson. No. That might be different. Because Mike Tyson is one of one. That's a good, I mean,

that's a good argument, though. All I'm saying is that no light heavyweight today could do anything to Roy Jones Jr. in the 90s. Roy Jones Jr. is the best fucking fighter, period.

Boxing has gone way down hill, though. Why didn't Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. ever fight? They just did. from weight classes. No, they didn't just fight. No, they didn't. That was, that was, they just did it. But the thing is this is like, people just if you look at Roy Jones, he's like, he's like, nobody in the world thinks that this is going to be a real fight, including me, except for Mike. Mike's going in there to fight. Yeah. Everybody else is not there. Everybody's there. Everybody's there to prove some shit. No, Mike Tyson just, he's just has a switch, man. Bro, I remember the last time I watched Mike Tyson fight as a kid, I remember I was in a living room in my in New Jersey. And I remember, I forget who he was fighting, but I remember he went into the rope. The dude quit. No, Mike Tyson.

Yeah. I don't want to box. That was like at the end of his career. Like, legit, I don't want to box them. Watch all that live. I'm like, damn. By that time he had just gotten out of jail. He probably had fever, feverish gonorrhea.

And he was just like, I'm just here to check. Crazy on cocaine for a little while. Yeah. He's, I didn't watch my, I didn't watch Mike Tyson fights. Every fight. I didn't watch any of them. Because I was like four. Yeah.

There's just something in him. Like, I was. You don't want to fight. him period. No, the thing, yeah, it's like, we watched it in my uncle, uh, Peppa's house in the garage. We were going to watch it inside. We watched it in the garage. One one car garage, TV all the way to back. That sounds like a move. That's what those do those situations. No, tecates, bro. Okay. Tecates. Carnia salvo, fricolos, chas over, rice over, like, everyone, bro, like 50 people of my family were all there. I love that. I love like, like,

events and then like, remember. remembering where you were when you watched them or like who you were every single fucking fight we were there for it every Julio sister Chavez fight we were there for it like I don't think I'll ever forget that uh when we went downtown and watched the downtown we went to some bar and watched the McGregor fight where he knocked that dude out in like 15 seconds remember that oh Aldo yeah I'll never forget that shit that was crazy that was in Chicago yeah oh yeah that was crazy remember when you vlog the fight that night you were vlogging it was I miss vlogging you miss vlogging you for sure miss vlogging sometimes I'm It's a creative process of it? I miss I miss uploading it and creating. If I could just vlog my life, I would vlog. And people actually be interested in like, Like my real life. What's your real?

Not my acting life. Me too. Matt's like, yo, let me follow you around like they do like Gary Vee and like let's film fucking business meetings. So I'm like, I'm not ready for that.

I feel like that would be interesting at first. But well, I don't really know what your day can. this stuff. But I feel like it'd be interesting first to watch like business whatever Gary V does. Yeah, cool at first.

I get in the car and somebody calls me he's like, dude, are you ever not on your phone? And I'm like, somebody's got to pay the bills around here. You are always on your phone. I know, I got home once like three days ago and lives like, Dad, where have you been? And I was like, when? She's like, the last three weeks.

And Jude's like, yeah, well, you know, she's like, she's right. Like you get out before us And you go to bed before us And they don't like we don't see you I was like that's true Hey man it's like Dude you know how lucky we are to do what we do shit

Man it's a lot of responsibility To make sure that you're doing what you're less you're in like a real like You're in the in the line of fire right now Oh dude I'm always Yeah yeah yeah yeah Eventually you'll have time The thing is like so many different things are happening right now With the cannabis business with the other business with the other business with the other business

And it's like it doesn't take like too much of my time But it is like I call here and there adds up. Yeah. Sounds like it. I'd be scared to go to sleep. I used to be like that back in the day. When I first started streaming and shit, I'd hate to go to sleep.

Like, I'm awake. Like, I'd wake up to see someone else streaming. I'm like, damn. Like, this is when I was back at the crib. Like, I need this chicken. He got on my viewer. Yeah. He got on my viewers.

For real. I don't know. You just started playing Halo again? Is there a reason? Missed it? Yeah, I'm back on that shit. You're fucking not. Dog, did I tell you what happened with,

With the league play thing? Can I mean, fuck it? So I was streaming and we can't, we were trying to, uh, three Q and it's hard. It's, uh, the TST. Yeah. We were, it was so hard to find a, like, whenever you three queue, you match up with three and then you wait there for 10 minutes. So we were like, let's just invite a fourth.

I was looking at my friends list. And I scrolled past. There's probably, somebody probably clipped it because you could probably see it in my face. Yeah. I, I scroll over Nick's name. And I'm like, why is Nick on? What type was it at? This is like two in the morning.

And then I looked to, and there's a glitch in Cold War where it shows the party that you're with, but it's not always accurate. And it said he was in a party with mocks and mental, Billy mental. And I was like. That would be, if I was cracked like I was last year, that would be a random party that I would be in. And I just started thinking, like, his, like, parties that he would be in with, like, Halo. Yeah. Just like random ams and, like, random. them pro players like anyone yeah and so i look i literally looked like hovered over it for totally

forgot i was streaming and just like stared at it and then i immediately pulled my phone out and i was like i texted i was like yo what are you up to yeah just like he did he said hey what you doing i'm not gonna lie i i was i was laying on my couch watching like breaking bad it was yeah and um i looked at it and i was like god is he going to ask me to do something let me just ignore it And then like, You do that too. Yeah. Yo.

Yo. And then I forget what I said, but you were like, never mind. Yeah, because then I walked over to your setup. And because your setup was just your desktop screen. Yo, you got to mute your mic and shut your camera off when you leave and you stop doing that. There's too much shit going on in the background. Somebody accidentally pushes live and shit. I can usually close OBS.

No, never. Never. That is a lie. What do you mean? Is that why my mic's always muted? Yeah, it's me. Yeah. It's me.

Well, it doesn't really pick up much. You got to be like this. You got to be eating the mic. Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought it was like one of these where like, oh, that's why like when you guys come behind my setup and you're like, they can't hear us at all.

Yeah. You're talking. They can't hear you. You have to like yell. I just like talk to Nick so he relays the message. Yeah. Like, yeah. I like have to relay the message.

Anyway, so you're back on Halo Yeah, me even formal We're just playing a little bit And when I say back literally He played one match Yeah, right before this two Two and then lagged out Maybe three

Yo, you were going off though At first I was kidding At first I was kidding I was like I'm like oh my God You're fucking insane But then like you weren't missing A single shot

And I'm like Damn was he nasty I was playing pretty good It's weird man Video games are hard now You don't know how lucky it is That you could just hop on Halo 3 like I literally this is weird I had a dream last night that I play I was playing competitive

monover two which is really random because I don't ever have dreams except I think I talked about another dream on the podcast one time but anyway and so I like thought about I was just like I woke up like happy I was like damn that was a good good ass dream and then you come here and you're you're playing your version of monore for two which is halo three oh so you're saying I'm lucky I can just like sign on halo three get a game Yeah, like I couldn't. If I wanted to play Modern for two, I really couldn't. I'd have to download.

You couldn't side on and like just find a game. No, because you'd have to get on like Xbox 1. Especially find like a sort of competitive. Right. Definitely not competitive. I mean, there's like, there's like mods and stuff where you can like download where other people play. Yeah, but you're a cod kid man.

You get a new cod every year. Must be nice. Yeah, that is true. I guess. I've had Halo 5 for six plus years. Dude, I was rewatching. So I did a thing on stream where I watched a competitive map of Call of Duty for the past like 12 years.

So I started at Cod4, ended at Cold War. And we got to AW, advanced warfare, which seems like forever ago. And somebody in chat was like, the funny thing about this is Halo 5. When we get to AW, Halo 5 came out that year. It was going to be a good story. Just text out of thanks. Everyone just looked like. But yeah,

Halo 5 came out of fuck like a long time ago. Yeah, it's 2015, I think. I have faith that the, the Halo will turn around. That's actually, your story just hit. Yeah,

AW, advanced war, literally watch Bose's four piece on AW and then somebody was like, that was the last time Halo came out. Oh my God. That shit feels like, ease.

That shit feels like fucking, do you, Do you remember, like, do you, like, now having retired, do you feel like, do you remember those days, like, clearly? Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I remember everything. Like, is it, like, do you feel it? Like, uh, nostalgic? No, not nostalgic, just like, damn, I really did play professionally at one point.

Dude, I think about that shit all the time. I ask Will that, like, yeah, last week. I was like, do you know, it's such a weird question? But it's such a weird question, but like. It's weird for me thinking about Will being a pro because ever since I've been in Optic, Will it's been retired. And I didn't pay attention to the early cod scene. But like everyone loves big time. Did you break that? Yes.

Well, everyone loves big timer. Will's last event was Philly. Yeah. Philly was my first event. Philly 2013. 2013. Yeah. UMG Philly 2013.

It was the sickest I've ever been because they had a. water tanks like outside the lobby. Bro, bro. Right. That was the first time I found out about Uber. That was the first time you put me on Uber. Remember we went to that diner? Yeah, sure.

He, you, Nate, it was a whole bunch of people. Yeah. In 2013. That was the first time I ever found about, found out about Uber. It was random. I don't know. Wait, that's, was that the first time you played with us?

No, that was like the vent before. Oh, that's when, that's when Nate picked you up. Yeah, like the event. Bro, I just got a flashback of, of how I was told that Seth was going to go. I was sitting, I was having a meeting, a business meeting, and then, uh, okay, so I was in the back, okay, so there was a restaurant and in the back of the restaurant, it was like, it was sectioned off and it was empty. And I remember like, I was having a meeting about fucking whatever.

And then Astro comes in and he's like, yo, just so you know, like we're, I'm trying to think of it was Astra. It may have been proofy. Somebody came in and told me, he's like, yo, Seth, Seth's going to leave. And I was like the fuck he's not And I'm like meeting's over Fucking they leave And then I fucking sit down I'm like who the fuck like tell me everything

And I'm blah blah blah And then I'm like I'm fucking looking for Seth everywhere Like I got fucking kicked the door I open the door And I'm looking through a restaurant I don't fucking see him anywhere I'm looking in the lobby No one's anywhere nowhere nowhere

I'm like man I go upstairs Fucking Will and Nate Are sitting in their beds And I'm like yo Seth's fucking leaving And they're like what? I'm like yeah I can't find him

He's not texting back He's fucking leaving And I'm like, he's like, why? I'm like, I was just told that you fucking pissed him off when he had a need. And there's like, and they're like, what the fuck? He's like, no. He's like, no, he, I'll just, I'll just quit the team. He can't leave.

He can't leave. And I was like, because of that, he's fucking leaving. You're staying. I'm not picking between both of you. That's fucked up. And then bam. But that flashback where you said that shit like fucking got me super mad. That was one of the craziest weeks in Kod.

Were you there for Intent? Or where were you? Oh, you were just there working? I was still working at it. That was my first UMG event. Did you tell me to say Happy birthday to someone once?

And I said, No. Hudson. Yeah, and you said, fuck no. Now everyone loves Hudson. No,

I didn't know who Hudson was back there. I was like, I'm like, what the fuck to say? What's that? But that wasn't, that was an AW. Where was that?

That was a D. Did we talk back when you told me that? I didn't know you. Did you just randomly go up to Hax? No, Hax came up to me first. The first event, what was the event? Aix broke his hand. Aix cut his hand.

Florida? MLG, no, it was like Columbus, maybe. It was like the first, the first AW event. It was Anaheim. Yeah, it had to have been because. Columbus. Columbus. Yeah, yeah, so that was the event.

You came up to me. What was I saying before that? I came up to you. What? You said, happy birthday or something like that. Oh, no, you say it's something. I came up to you. You said, why?

But you said something before you said the happy birthday. I was saying something, but I forgot. I said, was that the, were you working for us then? Oh, oh, oh, that week was crazy. Whenever Seth left, it's great. I bet you, I mean, now it's probably a majority of people that watch Cod don't remember that. I mean, weren't watching then.

Like early, early ghosts. Yeah. Actually, maybe not a majority. That was right after Black House, too. So probably a lot of people do remember it. But, I mean, I mean, that week where that was when the word juice had just come out. and you never let and like nobody in optic ever juiced anybody on twitter like the follow five or anything nobody on optic did that shit yeah no then set joined envy and the first thing he did was i'll follow

five that'll follow proofie or something like that and everybody was like damn and then that's a little shit no he was a little shit he was he was no he wasn't he was put in a tough spot too right because like mad had a very strong opinions on the way things should be, right? The way that, I mean, we were all, like, hard-headed dudes. That's crazy. That could have been a whole different year. Who was the best on the teams?

That could have been a whole different year. Really. Like, think about it. If we didn't get Seth back, we were in a place third. Who knows what they would have placed? Who knows what we? Yeah. Who know where Seth would be at right now?

No, you don't know. That's the fucked up part. That's crazy. That's crazy stuff came back. That's fucking out. He was like, should we take them back, man? I don't know if I. What?

What? Yeah. It's fucking, bro. I literally put in the chat, listen, I don't want a game in between, but y'all got to pick this. What? We need stunk. Y'all were like going, dude, y'all were playing with, like, parasite, saints, Dito. Y'all were rotating.

Yeah, it was, it was me, Clay, Nate, and then we, like, rotated in Dito. I don't remember, but we were basically going to pick up Dito. And then that's what Nate was like. That's what Nate was like. Dito, Clayster, Nade. A, yeah, it was going to be toxic. And then all of a sudden, Nade's like, yo, skump wants to join back.

I'm like, and you were like, yes? Like, what are we waiting for? He's like, I don't know if, uh, what? Bro, this dude comes downstairs. This dude comes downstairs. I'm talking to Big T in the island. And then he's like, he's a yo, Seth, Seth wants to come back.

I'm like, what? Let's go. So we go, you know how in 60-50, there was the kitchen. And then behind there was the laundry room. Yeah, yeah. So we went, and I'm like, we went there and we went in the laundry room, we close the doors on the column. So Nate sits up on the fucking washing machine and shit.

He's leaving. No, I'm kidding. I don't know why I made that shit. But the machine wasn't going. He calls it, he calls on a speaker from. Put a fucking speaker. He's put it on the speaker. And then they're like, they like hash that out.

I'm not going to talk about it, but they hashed it out. And I was like, hell yeah. And then I was like, I text a couple. I'm like, hell yeah, man. I'm glad you're back, man. I'm sorry about the way I acted. I was like, you hurt me and shit. You're like that.

y'all weren't going at it on twitter no i was not how long was he you said something no no oh wait set something to you when you responded no i think so oh i think so he said some shit like loyalty something loyalty something like i do remember that dude i guarantee you if you were like a optic fan at the time oh i said i said loyalty easy word to say hard thing to a body and then he read that right after set last and he replied back to you what did he said everybody on twitter But it's just. But this is a time we're like, how long was Seth gone?

No, it was maybe like a month, month or month and a half. All I remember is, is there was a like an unspoken rivalry between Seth and Nade's. Ooh, I found it. Did you really? Loyalty. Hashtag loyalty. An easy word. It was like January 7th, 2014.

It's my birthday. Happy birthday. Loyalty. An easy word to pronounce a hard attribute to embody. Did he reply to it? I'm looking at a little. So you just contradicted yourself by saying that you denied my second team. Good luck with him.

Ooh. I told me. That was spicy. Good luck with him. You're retreated. Read it. No. I'm deleting it.

Good luck with him. No, check it out. Check it out. And then it said and then fucking killer, killer replies. Killer replies, think about why y'all did and built together. Not worth some bullshit characters. Let it be. And then even, uh, fucking.

Keem 1 714 breaking denial fissor out Optic X defending scumpy hot and then Sachs Shelton There's a bunch of people Holy shit we went all the way back Oh shit wait don't keep Don't keep looking at replies I might be in there Oh wait hold on let me see how hilarious

Wait don't keep don't keep looking Wait what did you say? I don't know I'm saying I might have said something I can't remember Embo's Embo's uh that optic versus envy rivalry Winky face That's my boss That's hilarious. Hold on.

I'm gonna keep fucking going down this ride right now. Anyway. I'm just in the replies somehow. Bro, Sacha good. Don't remember any of it. You caught weirdos.

Oh, man. That's, that was fucking. I'm not going to read that one. That was kind of racist. That's wild. That feels like for, I mean, it was forever ago.

Damn. It was forever ago. Seven years ago. Damn. That is wild. Bro, like if you think about it, like, like look at the, that's how small it was. 712 likes and scump ratioed me. Okay.

He had a thousand sixty five. Damn. And you said you just so you just contradicted yourself by saying you denied my second team. Good luck with it. Bro. That that happened now. We thought we had juice back. Or y'all thought you had juice back then too.

That'd have like 40K. Yeah. No, we. No, no, no. Yeah. Now Seth sweets out caught his life and it gets like 40K. Yeah. Let me fucking delete this.

Damn. That was, no, you can't delete. Yeah, you got a screen shot. Yeah, you got a screenshot. Yeah, you got to delete it. You can't this fucking happened in 2014. Now, by the time this comes out, randomly you're going to go on Twitter one morning,

and it's just going to be getting retweeted so much. So many retweeted. I just hope that everybody helps me on ratio, get on ratio. Yeah, pick me. I'm kidding. Dude, that's so funny. Look, it's those moments that, like, shape the fucking future. It's crazy how, like, if Nate would have been,

like nah, nah, it's like we're over, we can do better or something like that. Like, you know what I mean? Because at that time, you know, it's like one wants to stay, the other one wants to go and shit. But he did, you know what's crazy? Like, I do remember him saying that, like, that they, he wanted a second team. And then Nate saying is like, he's like, listen, you can have a second team, but I'm not going back to Optic Nation.

He's like, they got to be Optic Nation. Yeah. And Scump is like, no, we're opting. And I'm like, I'm not picking. You're just like, I'm just like, I'm not picking it. What's crazy. In that same time, like, all of that fight, all of the fighting at the house, like, led to that. That's the other thing that people don't, like, take into account that teammates are teammates and everything's all good and well.

But once you start living with people, that's when people start getting, like, on each other's nerves. Whether it's Mike and fucking ace leaving fucking cooked salmon in the fucking kitchen for three fucking days. Yeah, that could have, like, someone, like, someone not cleaning something could alter, like, how you, Yeah. Treat that. Like, you don't want to help them as much in game. Exactly.

You're not really wishing they have a good game. Like, shut up. Like, they go negative and you're like, fucking suck. That's what you get for that fucking salmon. Yeah. God, so annoying,

so bad. But the amount of, team chemistry just starts going. That's the thing you know, you're a halo 5 optic and you're getting replaced by the number one team, talks gaming and you retire. Look, at the end of the day.

At the end of the day. we're gonna do what's best for optic at all times and I'm glad that you that you took the right approach it's kind of crazy that means guys I'm fucking realistic Realistic? I'm realistic That's crazy You just have it saved

Bro, it's so good They argued like they were like Literally fucking Brothers yeah bro I'm telling you I mean they were Like like legit like baby brothers I can't believe Matt

or I can't believe Nate Seth and Ian were all on the same team at one point Yeah That's just so much Because like That's so many You know what I hate

People that are like When I hate it playing When there's someone like Like I wouldn't play good with Ian Simply for the fact that I know there's something Like You're all butt heads

Not butt heads But like you don't want to let Ian down You know what I'm saying Or you know he's gonna feel some type Like you know I hate that feeling Like, I hate that kind of burden over my shoulders. So I felt like that.

I only felt like that with Clay a little bit, too. Like, I love playing with you, but you make me too nervous, bro. Like, you put too much pressure on me, you know. Yeah, my favorite, or, I mean, as long as they were good, my favorite teammates were always the teammates that you didn't feel that pressure. Yeah, exactly. Like, I feel like teaming with lethal. Like, lethal's that guy where, like, I felt like he wasn't happy.

He needed you to perform. elevating you yeah but like he I just didn't feel pressure playing with them like there was some people you'd play with

and it's just like yeah like you can just one shot yeah like and you're just like I try and you're just like

fucking throw a shit need like you're just like God and the vibes are just fucking bad yeah

I hated playing with people like that yeah that's how Ricky was you know it is crazy bad vibes he wasn't bad vibes but like

if we just played with a stuff like two it was fucking ass. I'll be like, damn, Rick, I just got in the lobby. You know, I think, I think that's why I also think sometimes I was like, my timing could have been more perfect in this space because I was like the only old dude that could have fucking sat people down in the demeanor that I had to do it for them to be like, all right,

like you guys are both being that. Because imagine, yeah, think about, think about it, right? Like scomp, scomp, right? Best in the game. And then Matt, the face of the fucking game at the time. like that was like a fucking struggle like within itself I wonder what the few I've thought about this before because because e-sports are so new I wonder what the future of coaching is because you shouldn't be much you don't think there's I think finish finish finish your thought

because like if you think of like the early stages of basketball like right when it got you know franchised or whatever like there was a time where coaches of teams that were just players that weren't good enough to play. And I feel like we're kind of in that area right now with coaching in e-sports. But like nowadays, coaches are Hall of Famers that aren't playing anymore because of their age.

And so there's a lot more, like, not saying that coaches aren't respected now, but there's like an overwhelming amount of respect. Like I guess like... I know what you mean. Like, there's no real coach, right? The coach says, you got to do this. and you do it, right?

Like, if you go to the NFL, like, nobody's like, you're not better than me. How the fuck are you going to tell me? Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What have you won? Right. I know what you mean.

It'll be a long time. More, more of, more of coaches right now that are respected are people that are putting in the grind hours of like going over vods of other teams and going to watch and analyzing and stuff like that. It's more like, they're more like information.

They're not really telling you like. Like, how many years is it going to be until a coach is like, dude, dude, you got to fucking put in the hours like sitting a dude down. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know if that's going to happen for a while. Just in a custom game, like strafing, like getting his player.

Doing suicides, but it's like, this is a fucking slide. Target practice. Yeah. Making someone do a hundred slide cancels. I was going up and down the map. Because eventually, I mean, eventually e-sports is going to be like a high school thing or or earlier where like there's summer camps and there's, you know, college or high school teams. For those like

Those fucking GG Academy from fucking infinite They choked man They could have That's what that was No no yeah The thought there was Let's have like the pop Warner

Of e-sports where We had Jack at the time Blowing up I'm like guys we can have like an after school fucking program Where moms are going to pay The fucking $1,500 a summer For them to come in once a week

To For them to take a picture And learn from fucking Jack Get away from the house and shit Yeah It's like they pay that now for basketball and all the other shit. Anyway, sorry. Yeah.

Same idea. It'll be, it'll be a long, long time because until this generation of pro players expires, until this generation of people retires, sorry? Imagine Ian in 20 years as a coach. Yeah. Oh my God. Stop yelling at me. They lose one map.

He just, bro. Why don't? The spirited man, right, has gone through like a timeline. And I don't understand. I don't know the exact thoughts and I hope I don't ruin it. Right. But it's hard times make soft men. Soft men make hard times.

And hard times make hard men or something like that. Okay. Hard men make easy times. Sometimes I'm soft and sometimes I'm hard. With men. It's Ross. Okay. Essentially what they're saying there is.

that when times are good, everybody's relaxed and, you know, everybody's like, all right, everything's good. Like, there's no need to, you know, fuck around. Those people don't innovate, don't fucking work hard to make sure that everything's safe. So then there come the hard times. If you grow up in tough times, you just become a tough dude. Because you're a tough dude and you understand the bad times, then you put in the effort to make sure that the next couple of, you know, decades are, you know, not what you just

experienced. So that's what I was trying to say there. So what I was saying with that is that Ian is the type of guy that's going to make fucking good players because he's not going to give a shit about your feelings. He's not going to give it like, we're here to play a sport. Okay, I don't care about your feet. If you have feelings, leave that shit off the court. Don't come in with that bullshit in the map. Mentally strong, point and shoot, capture the flag.

That should be crazy. But is that the best coaches in sports? True. Aren't they always weird and nice? We don't even know. I mean, because when you think of like a hard. like boot camp almost like coach you think of high school in college yeah because we don't even know I don't even know does anyone know it like pro professional level sports coaches are like like

in practice no but I mean we saw it on last chance you and obviously like obviously that's not pro but no he that coach that coach was like direct and said I expect this for my players and that's what it was that's college but there's no way there's no way the coach is yelling at LeBron that's what I'm saying like in professional you don't think Phil Jackson would be yelling at LeBron Phil Jackson, maybe. I don't think didn't Phil Jackson not yell.

Yeah, wasn't he like a Kumbaya? He didn't fucking have to. Bro. He was a Kumbaya coach. Ain't no coach at LeBron. They didn't be like, what the? Yeah, like, imagine.

It's not happening. A perfect example. I'm not a coach, but have I ever yelled at anyone? Yes. Yes. We're going to go to a quick commercial break. No, I have about it.

No, I don't, I don't think it's applicable. though. I don't think that that applies. Yeah, I mean, I know we're just bouncing them. I feel like the next step in Cod for coaching. Well, in Halo, they do it. So I'm wondering why, how come in Call of Duty, the coaches don't stand behind

them. I've been saying this for as soon as I didn't get that either. As soon as coaches got banned in Cod from standing behind players. Like we let Pommage coach get a freed championship. That was the last time there was coaching. Yeah, that ain't. Well, I think the thought I think the thought was that I was like, well, if he can

any fucking bro coaching coaching behind players do a championship you don't deserve to or if Pomage can coach to a championship maybe it really doesn't mean anything

I think coaching behind players is like the coolest shit damn like they should do it in Rocket League they should do it here you would be able to like see yeah but at that point like point out like I don't know I couldn't tell Troy what the deal

formal had a really good reason as to why not why that couldn't be a thing because at that point like you don't like all self thought it's like out of the all your self thinking is out the window and somebody's already doing that for you and all you got to do is do it and that's really not good I hated when people would tell me sort of what to do especially if it's not like a hundred percent thing I hate when people say what to do and it like just takes you off of that like I don't know man six sense instinctual that's why I think a good coach would I think a good coach would

stand behind and and but I feel like no no wet yeah yeah yeah they would remind players what to do they wouldn't tell players exactly like yo I still think that remember you remember the last defense when he shot careful wash that window right right putting it back of your head or or like in hard point like 30 seconds like you just yeah that shit works just so they start rotating

just because if you say 30 seconds you don't have to look up at the mini map and you can you can stay I mean I think that's applicable in call duty the same way that power weapons are in agreed whole hard If they're making me pay for a fucking coach, the coach better get the fuck in the back. I think I think that's fucking sick. I think it's so dope. I think it should be up there in CS too.

Yeah. If you're watching right now, agree, disagree on the coaching stuff. Leave a comment on the section down below. And plus, like, for people that don't know esports at all, when they, when they come up, it's a good icebreaker. They're like, so who's the guy standing up? Like, that's the coach. Yeah. And then, boom, like a conversation about e-sports automatically.

Like branding. I wish I knew what other topics there were, but I guess what it was being playing. So there's this one team that they got disqualified. All right. Let me read this really quickly. Just a lot to catch everybody up. Last week, there was a Cod Mobile Pro team that got disqualified from a $20,000 tournament for shooting bodies. Okay?

Shooting bodies. Right. So apparently, tragic, this is the guy's name, Tragic's gym shot. Okay, so tragic is the name of the team. Jim is the guy. Okay. Shot a body after winning a 1v3 to keep his team in the tournament. But while the squad won the round, the stream immediately cut to casters,

awarding their opponents to win due to unsportsman's like conduct. Look, I don't know where this... Poor tragic. Like... Poor Jim. For Jim. Solution of Jen. Yeah.

Jim, we feel bad for you. Codmobile and YouTube get your shit together. Don't worry, Jim. Nick will give you 20K. Obviously, well, what, he did it, and then they switched off. Like, they brought it to the, like, they immediately knew. Like, this is not allowed. Apparently.

Why don't the players know that? Yeah, they should know. Yeah, if it's in the rule book, they should know. Yeah. Because that's, like, the only really possible. And for money, I doubt he's going to do that if he knows it. Yeah. Like, when that happened, he was probably like, wait, what?

And they're down? Imagine he does. Imagine he does know and the rest of his team is like, like, no, Jim. Because they were loose. Goddammit. Not again. Think about it.

If you're down, like, if you're down 5-2 and he just clutched around to make it 5-3, but they're still losing, he's not going to shoot anybody's body. Right. I wouldn't. Yeah. That's crazy. You know? Matt's type of guy.

They don't really make sense. Like, you're down 5-3, like, shooting their bodies. Let's go. You know, the, I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to talk about this because people have gotten mad at, at, somebody got mad at someone for shooting Scum's body. It's like, nobody gave a fuck, right?

Like, I don't think scump, like, no one cares. It was when. They wouldn't have survived. I used to like when people would shoot my body. Huh? I used to like when people would like teabag me or shoot my body. I'm like, yes, they're taking like, because I just wanted to win. And if they're taking the time to shoot my body and tee bag instead of pushing up and pulling the flag, like I'm like, yeah.

Yeah. Like I used to like it. Yeah. So it's like same in like cod if you're playing like a fucking hard point or something. And Simp isn't Simp known for shooting bodies? Yeah. And Simp shooting my body. I'm like, yes, keep shooting my body.

Yeah. I mean, there's certain players. a better chance to win. I don't mind it at all. There are people out there that shot bodies. That should definitely not be fucking... Yeah, yeah. Damon's really good at it.

Damon's really... And that's the point, though. Like, I think that we should... He'll write shit on the walls. He's disrespectful. Like, in A.W... I like the end of S&D rounds. He just...

Smiley. I think in IW, he got a two-piece in a hard point and immediately did the solution thing that you can do in AW. And I was like, holy. shit I would be fuming. The thing is that people have to make the difference right, like understood

from my perspective, just so everybody gets it. From our perspective, is that there's no need to force these fucking rivalries, right? Like, everybody's always like, oh yeah, I love rivalries. Like, I like it when people shoot bodies. We get that. When you start forcing shit, it never works out. If it's organic and somebody

shooting bodies because that's what's happened in the way karma used to do it, I'm all for it. But when the league or when castors, when fucking social media managers, when they're forcing a fucking rivalry, that's when I'm just like, I'm the only one that thinks it's cringe with all these fucking

the Cod, the Call of Duty, like Twitter accounts. Dude, it's like the I used to hate when the mutineers did it. I just see it as another another creator. Like they're like I see it as a waste

someone's getting paid. Like I don't you have to pay them to make content for me. You know what I mean? They're still making this. It's like I have another team creating optic content for me.

You know what I'm saying? I don't know what I'm saying? Look, I don't mind. It's like, you know, but... It is, yeah. Just some of the tweets, though. It's like... What, do you think it's getting out of control?

No, it's just cringe. It's like there's no... It seems original, but it's like not original. It's like the cheap... It just seems like the cheapest way to have some sort of content and it gets some sort of likes because it's like... Just the way they do it. It's just so like...

Hey, look. Like, shout out to the New York City subliners, man. They made a dope-ass video about graffiti or something where people were spray painting like they it's like damn i got i got production companies putting fucking work for what was that what was the video about optic was like all right cool thank you appreciate it i didn't even see that though where they were like the fans got when uh when clay won or when subliners won and uh and we lost that's when dashed and and clay were talking to each other and uh they made a video about the green wall being mad at new york so they started spray painting like

optic everywhere and shit i was just like they're like that's free promotion No, I didn't see it. Thank you. I don't know. Again, it's, it's, uh, this is my thing, though. You're a social media manager delivering a message for the team. You're not. That's not your message.

That's dangerous. Yeah, that's not your message, right? Like, you're not, you're not, you're literally the dude putting out the, yeah, I get that. You know what I mean? That's the other thing. Like, when they make it about them, that's when I'm just like, ah, I get, like, like they're tweeting on the account, like, as if like, I don't know. I just, shout out to my boy Joey, man.

That dude, Joey puts in work. He puts in work the right way. I was literally going to say, our account is probably the only account that I don't read messages. And I'm like, ugh, like, come on. It's like people trying to be me, me. So anyway, yeah, Jim's 1V3 was crazy. Jim wants me three, he should not have gotten something for that.

Wait, so what do you guys think about the, uh, the Q? Little ass lie. I think it's stupid. Wait, what? No one should get fucking decued for shooting bodies. That's ridiculous. Do we know what country that tournament was going on in? We don't know our country?

No, because some countries do have like, you know, like, yeah, culture, right, respect. Like, you can't spit on the street in Japan. I wish that that was brought here. Or if you're going to. Yeah. I never know that. Yeah.

If you're going to spit here, like spit into the bushes, into the dirt, don't do it on asphalt. That's my thing. Come on. I do that. I mean, no, I don't spit out the window or nothing like that, but you can't, like, I don't, bro, if it's, if I can step on it, you shouldn't do that. Gum, same thing. Like, don't, if people are walking, you know what I mean?

Gum, scum. Yeah. Are we making, are we rewriting fucking culture here? All right. One last thing. We're going to talk about this because, uh, it needs to, it needs to be talked about. Dr. disrespect was criticizing an underdeveloped YouTube gaming compared to Twitch. Look, I'm not going to lie.

Why? Barely go. What does that mean? I watch a lot of. YouTube. I don't really know about YouTube gaming, but I do know for sure it's not not about now. Now, Twitch is, well, Twitch is ever watch the YouTube sure. I have. I watch Jacks all the time. Besides it called ditty shit. Yeah. So I guess it is a different experience, right? But if you're, if you're YouTube, you're still considering Twitch like a like a small social

community sort of application. You can't compare the numbers that Twitch is producing on a monthly basis, hours watch on a monthly basis, to the juggernaut that is YouTube gaming. YouTube can literally, and so can, I mean, look, I'm not going to, I'm not going to get into the fight. I do think that the experience is better on Twitch right now, though. I think the experience is better on Twitch. Why? Because what is Doc, what do you think Doc is saying?

Doc wants to go to YouTube. What is underdeveloped? YouTube. He wants to go, I'm imagining, he wants to go to YouTube.com forward slash, you. live or live gaming and there you have the same sort of yeah the browsing the discoverability as it's called in the industry

but the discoverability is already pretty crazy on YouTube on YouTube because if you watch five Pokemon streams or five Pokemon videos then boom all of a sudden there's somebody live playing Pokemon Go or somebody live opening Pokemon there should definitely be though

like sort of a browse directory if I was Twitch I'd be I you'd you'd are praying that YouTube doesn't doesn't make it better because I think I would be terrified if I was Twitch because YouTube is so close

to being number one Yeah Like oh no Especially and YouTube has it inevitable YouTube hasn't like had any Had it had it Yeah tried or had any controversies All I've seen from Twitch in the past year and a half

That's a good point Look when you have When you have the sort of leader And I'm not look like I'm dapping Twitch is obviously an incredible company. They've done really well. And if you're YouTube, you sort of go back a couple of years and like, should we have bought them?

Should we have not? Because who's Google's competitor, right? Like you're thinking Facebook, you're thinking Amazon, right? So would you have gone out of your way to snatch that up? I think so. I think that they regret it. I think that's that. But when you have the incredible leadership that YouTube gaming live does, okay, the incredible

just like the looks, the personality, the pizzazz. The knowledge of my boy Fwiz. You know you're going places, baby. You know you're going places. It's true. Optic alum. I mean, think, holy shit. Bro, if we weren't a fucking college,

we would have, like, we would be secret societies. You know what I'm saying? We'd be the brotherhood of the skull and bones. Would we be a private school? Yeah. Ruby Ivy League. No one can get in here.

Why? Because we're weird. We're weird off camera. All right. I don't have anything else in the closing comments, money biscuit. UFOs are coming. Oh, shit. When is that?

On the first. On the first. We got to like have it like a live. Bro, we, you're down? I'm down. What's cool? So the UFO. Okay, so the government is releasing all of the information that they have on

unidentified flying objects, UFOs. And the other one is what? Vehicles, UAVs. What is it? No, it's not a documentary. No, it's not a documentary. Like all of the knowledge that it's going to be like news. articles all of the videos all the reports so like okay so you know how like before they had the

first coming out with the black files and all like the tic-tac i like files like if you had if you cared about it bro there's like over crazy amount of pages basically if you care about it you're gonna go inside and yeah you're gonna go inside and break it down see what's in there so probably gonna have released some shit like that again so like the people who actually care will know the people don't give a shit i'll leave it up for them to like make a youtube video we are gonna be trust me you're gonna want to read this you're gonna fucking one. bro, the videos

they have been coming out. This is the thing though. Listen, bro. You call Joe Rogan on Instagram? That shit went in the water, bro. That shit was flying did a double dip. If they come, we're done.

Yeah. This is my thing. I was talking about it on the podcast I did with Lex. What happens, right? Up until this point, like even seeing the UFOs now for the last decade or so, for the time that you've been alive,

you've seen UFOs. You've seen movies of UFOs. You've seen all this shit about UFOs. So now when they release the information and you see it, you're like, yeah, I already seen that before. Right. So you're like, oh, okay. They're making a big deal out of it because the government's finally admitting it. Okay, it's like the government's finally admitting that they exist.

Like we needed to fucking have the, like we needed to have like that sort of, you know, certification from the government. They'll yeah, they do exist. I'm like, you know, motherfucker. We've seen it. We've seen random people like recording it and doing that. My question is this though. What happens? When the UFOs are like, they caught us, they know it's ours.

Let's just come on and say hello. People are going to go crazy. Up until this point, I feel like that's a really, that's just how our dumb human brain sting. No, that's exactly why they haven't told us shit. Because people will lose their minds. Imagine if an alien walked in here, bro. Bro, I would, I think.

And they talk without moving their mouth. They're talking to you in your mind. Bro, would you really be freaked out? I brought them down Tackler's ass Would you be freaking Like And you just start

Fucking flying Wait would you be freaked out Fuck yeah I can At first But I feel like it would get Normalized pretty quick Bro I tell you with intense

Like I would watch And I would be But if there's communication happening I can honestly say That I don't think that I would fucking freak out Even if it's like a fucking seven foot fucking squid

Walking in here Slime fucking everywhere I mean I would be like Damn you're fucking up the floors But aside from that, like, I would have given, I would be like, you go with him if he was like, come with me? I would. I'm like, you got to bring me back? Hey, you go free me back?

Yeah, you got to be able to shake on me? Do you think aliens worry about, like, mental health? No. And shit like that. He just cares everything. He's like, you know. Are they just, man, I don't even know. I don't even know why.

He's like, what's that? Oh, try this. Yeah, we put this shit here like long time ago. Finally y'all are using it. I was like, wait, why did you guys make this illegal? I suppose it's medicinal. I read, um, times running out. I read, I read, uh, something where it was a Reddit.

It was a long time ago. Actually, it was probably like five, six years ago. And they were, they were in like a lab, whatever, and they were doing something where they can send frequencies really far, right? So they sent one like as far as they can. Apparently they were getting like messages back. Yeah. That the only way something advanced that could,

only thing about it, they're sending frequencies and they're coming back with words. Humans are not going to be able to break that down. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So, like, I don't even, they were basically saying, we don't know how you guys are alive.

Like, we don't even care about you guys. Basically, we're too, you guys are too far from anything. Like, you guys are way too far from anything. If we kill you, we don't get nothing from it. Like, basically. So I don't know how true.

It's just one of the conspiracies. I think, I think, the way that we're colonizing Mars is the same way that this sort of thing is happening. Right? Like imagine, imagine this happens, right? Like, I don't know. I mean, I guess it's up to the imagination.

But you got to still remember. We had that shit. We had that. All the videos are black and white too. Seth, you believe in aliens? Seth believes, guys. Do you not? I definitely do.

Uh, nothing. Do you? Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think that there's a world in which, okay, here's the other thing that I was saying on the podcast. It's like one. One, up until this point, nobody has admitted or confirmed the fact that we know that they exist.

Right. So now the aliens know that we're except. All right. Like, what happens now? Right. Like, they know that we're here. Like, there's no need to fucking hide anymore. I don't know.

I can't comprehend. The thing is on the Bob Lazar shit, you know who Bob Lazar is? You remember when he told us about the energies and what kind of fucking ship that they were dealing with? Yeah. We're seeing that in the video. Like, dang, these things are, bro, that shit hit the water at 13,000 miles an hour. Yeah. And it came back up.

You are thinking all this from like a human level, though. Yeah. This is like a dog thinking about other dogs. No, you're not understanding the metals of their ship like they're flying. Like you can bend the metal like this, though. Like you can make, you can put their ship into a ball and it'll come back out and have you ever tried to explain the, explain currency to a cockroach? Wait, where did you get this from? I just heard something about this.

Yeah. So it was like it was an example that they did. That's what I feel like we probably. can't even comprehend how an alien would look at us. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Exactly. But what I'm saying is that now that they know, now that they know, that's their circumcision handshake that they have now, now that they know, is it not more like, all right, yo, they got us. There's only too high. Let's go try to educate them. They don't know. Right. They don't know.

But what, this is my thing. Think about how stupid, think about how stupid humans are, right? Like, we are literally fucking morons. What is this going to do to religion? because if there is other life on form that's more advanced than what we are than a lot of the religious facts and a lot of the religious beliefs sort of become null and void and can people be okay with that?

No. So what does that do for that? Because the easiest, bro, the easiest thing for any Catholic or any Christian or anything to say is like they're demons. Yeah. They're demons.

That's not that's not, The devil putting that on the air. I mean, kind of. I think you're kind of underselling a lot of like a lot of what. There's a lot of like contemporary religion. A little flexible. Right.

They're not just like. Exactly. Like there's a there are people that are. There's no radical religions. No, there are. They're definitely are. And they're going to lose their mind. But there are a lot of,

there are a lot of religious groups that are aliens. That kind of understand the basis of their religion. Aliens are probably religious. They have their. They had to come somewhere too. They could form into a fucking water bottle. Yeah. When you corner this might be an alien.

Bro, Hosephal might be a fucking alien. Roger might be an alien. Fucking Elon Mosque is definitely an alien. Rogers for sure an alien. Roger and Elon Mosker. Oh, no, don't make me start thinking that. You've seen the way he looks. What if those three?

He blinked from the side. He blinked this way. What if those three are aliens? Huh? What if these three are aliens? What, the cameras? It would make a lot of sense. Oh, those three?

The three people. They're just playing. They're like, we think we are in control, but they're the ones that are like recording us to send back. Dude, I don't know. I believe it, too. There's just too much to comprehend. Anyway, I'm excited.

We are going to have some sort of show regarding that. I've gotten a lot of interest from a lot of people that want to be a part of it. Still trying to figure out how we're going to incorporate it into the podcast. Drifter is a genius. I fuck with Drifter heavy. Shout out to Dr. You saw him. Oh, he's a genius.

Yeah. I know. He is insane. Yeah. Bro, he got, never mind, I was gonna go something else. All right, guys,

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