OpTic Podcast - THE ESPORTS SALARY WINTER (INFLATED $$$)| The OpTic Podcast Ep 125

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

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You're saying it's a bad business model. It is. I fucking hate to say that because I hope this thing lasts for 30 years. That is why teams want that quick payout. They want a little injection. Feel something for a little bit? Get some dope. Yeah.

So it's time to double back. I think, well, you've got to see it from their perspective too, right? Let's call. If the league dies, everyone gets their money back, right? Or a portion of their business. They're fucking pregnant on its downfall. They get a portion of it back. You back, kill it.

Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode number 125 of the podcast. Look at that happy trail, man. How happy you are. Dude, we went fishing. You would have done fucking phenomenally, I think. Because you fished before. It was great. Zinney.

I looked at the comments, people are like, what did I tell you? Why'd you reel it in so far? Man, it's my second time fishing and I'm catching hogs. Yeah, exactly. That's why, look, the one thing that you need to know about fishing. You know how you were talking about how you, Seth, on the way back from from the fishing trip, posted a picture of a fish,

and he said, man, I feel like the fishing community is very welcoming. I'm like, nah, not? Every community's got their set of snobs and trolls. The backseaters. The backseaters. And that's why, like, in the video that I uploaded today, if you guys haven't seen it, is Feshka, both Zinn and Seth cut their biggest fish ever.

Seth with a Mondo one. In the video, I tell Seth, I'm like, hold on, wait until the people in the comments, tell you how much it weighs, who have never touched or felt this fish and will never touch or feel this fish. Let them tell you how much it weighs. But yeah, it was a really good time.

I mean, anytime that I get to go fishing, I obviously, like I love it. So I would have stayed out there the whole day. So I was happy. I was loving it. Dude, you caught that on your own, though. Like, period. And I did, for the record.

I did tell them to leave like at least the same measure of line as the pole so that you doesn't, you know, that's how you break not only the tip, but the fish gets lost. If you lose the fish because it's got, you know, the line snap. Now he has a fucking a bait hook and line. So he can't get stuck somewhere down there and then he'll die that way. So that's why you got to make sure that you don't reel it in all the way to where you did.

But you did actually very fucking proud of you using. I'm very proud of the fact that you stuck it out, man. Well, I mean, we were both in a crazy dry streak. For like two hours, we both couldn't catch anything and I was getting fucking pissed. Yeah, I can hear him getting pissed. And Hector was yelling at him. No. You're not even fucking trying.

No, no, no, no. Me and Matt were in a boat like 10, 15 yards away. And all you hear is, you're not even fucking trying. No, no, no. All right. So I was being a little hardheaded. Me and Matt were like, dude, he would like, I was hard-headed a couple times where he would tell me something,

but I would like have a reasoning as to why I'm not doing what he's saying. And then I just didn't communicate it. But he didn't actually yell me for anything like fishing related. No, I was just, I was, what are they called the fucking, Yeah. No, what I was going in on them was just common sense shit. Like if my pulse here, your pulse here. Yeah, that's one thing I hate it. But yeah, I know you get pissed like that. Because that was like, one time I was, I forgot what the hell I was doing. I forgot even where I was at. And someone was next to me and it kept crossing over. Like, again, like I don't want to deal with that. I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing for in the first place. This will make me lose full. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I had a lot of patience with him except for when he was just doing regular human shit. But good student nonetheless He ended up catching his own fish

His first fish And all of them after that were like All him like I was just like looking at him There was times where he had a fish on the line And I'd be like set the hook Set the hook He's like he's already hooked I'm like no you got to set the hook

Dude I thought I was Because I would like I would like tug up a little bit But I guess I wasn't doing it like Hard enough for like Hook set People were laughing at your hook set Because you did it twice

And you know it's like It's your second time fishing And you've caught a bigger fish than I would let me see could I go as far as to say the majority of the population I don't know

that's a question for the comments but it is like it's hard I had to make sure that shit was really in there yeah yeah you know what I did just ripped the face off the fish I had them on

I had more of it he wasn't getting to life completely destroy his face and shit it's called ripping lips for a reason ripping lips ripping lips he says no but it was a

it was a really good time time we couldn't take my boat, which was the purpose of the trip. We're going to unveil the Jack Link's optic boat. Fucking incredible. Is that right? Yeah. Jack Links optic boat. Yeah, the Jack Links optic boat.

It was amazing. I was so mad that we couldn't take it. Long story short, though. Like I caught a fish. There was like a five or he cut a six. Zinn caught like maybe a two. But it was a hard deal. No, it's not even, it's not even, I'm not even talking shit.

I've told them that I've driven four hours before to not catch any fish in four hours back I've taken flights down here to fish with Rob when we lived up there where we barely caught them they're elusive man it's called fishing not catch

we have a great final hour like it was dry for a while and then we hit that one like edge of the of the lake and it was just like nonstop yeah absolutely my cast was solid too I can fucking... You started casting

really good towards the end next time you're gonna have to do the bait castor which is what he was using. I think I'd have more fun I had a lot of fun

but I think I was a little claustrophobic in those small ass boats Yeah they were small boats I prefer like Matt Craig kept hitting spiders off me where you can like move a little bit Matt Craig said he killed like eight spiders in our boat

Yeah Yeah And I fucking hate spiders He's one time he slapped me on the back And we didn't say anything to each other And I was just assuming there was a bug on me He didn't tell me he was a spider Yeah

Was it a big spider? Good size, Matt says Uh-huh I was trying to not tell you I didn't see him A bunch of people A bunch of people He said he killed like eight

I was in there I was swatting him out A bunch of people said That they want to see More outdoor content from us So I say let's give it to them Yeah Let's give it to a man

Let's go out there man I'll sew down to go fishing again Yeah Hell yeah What else is there Besides fishing for outdoor content Camping We didn't drink any beers either

And that's like Everyone says If you drink a beer While you're fishing It's like Me and Matt Craig the whole time we're like we fucked up yeah because i've been dieting so like i haven't been drinking at all so i was like i'm not drinking today bro bro i was like when we were out there i was like we

fucked up we should have got like some beers because they would have hit because it was a hot day it was like 85 no i'm not a cloud stole stole my hat i had to didn't say anything i had to i just looked at them i'm like yeah you need it more than i do look the skin i'm in you know i got the natural people were hating on the hat and shit they were like what were they saying There's people hating on the hat What were they saying? You know what they're saying I'm hating for no reason

Oh man you gotta love those people But I needed the hat Like I needed like a What are they called? Like the A door kicker Is that what they're called Like the fucking

The big bowl around So it protects me from the sun Because obviously I'm prone Me and Matt Craig were out there getting cooked I mean We were We were putting sunscreen on Like I'd say every like 30 minutes

And I still got burned Like I'm in the itchy phase now too And that shit sucks I got some nice color surprisingly. Yeah, we did a, we did a, anyway, long sort of short, it was a sexual stop. Thank you to L&M Ranch here in Texas. It was amazing.

I want to say last night I watched the Evil Dead Rise, great, great film. Tell me, okay, tell me about that. I've been, I've been sort of driving myself to a point to where I want to watch The Exorcist and get over my fear of scary movies. So the movie's obviously scary, but like, it's not like jump scare, like, It's like... It's like gory. It's like a mix between demon and gore.

Like there's obviously moments where like you know a jump scare is going to happen. But like... I just don't trust your like... Dude, there's chainsaws. Like it's fucking great. It's a demon. It's so good. See, that doesn't bother me at all.

A good movie though. Nah, it didn't scare me at all. It was like fun to watch. Yeah. I can't do scary movie. I don't mind scary movies. I hate... She's just covering...

Watch sinister. If you're gonna like trying to go over your heart, watch Cicester. Because it's like... Sinister's like... Sinister is scientifically the scariest movie ever made. Like, they tested people's heartbeats and did, like, focus groups and shit. Wait, really?

Yeah, it's-sinistically the scariest movie ever made. I've seen it, and it's pretty fucking scary. Really? I think the first conjuring is unbelievable. I hate that shit. I started peeking through the cracks in my door and shit. Yeah, I'm not watching anything. Your house is too big to watch it.

I'm telling you, don't do it. Don't do it. Dude, oh, we were just shit in ourselves, dude. The conjuring didn't really scare me. The nun scares me. The first conjuring. If you look at my library of movies, if you see a scary one, that that was not purchased or watched by me. Yeah, I don't do scary. Those you can rent. You should watch the Evil Dead. Because it's like one of those, like for everything to happen to you in real life, because like scary movies, when it could happen, it's a lot scarier.

But for this to happen, there's like a book of the dead. It has teeth on it. It's made of human flesh. Like, just don't open the fucking book, man. No, see, like that's just like saying, don't open the book. You're good. That's what I told it is. He's like, you're leaving, and we're watching this. I'm like, don't open the fucking book of the dead and you're good. Yeah. It's like, don't let curiosity win. And they like modernize it because there's a other one that's like in the cabin and it's like a little older. But this one they modernized.

They're in like a hotel. The way that the shit gets out is on like a turntable and they play a cassette. It's so good. Is Chuckie scary? No. No. I don't remember. No, I watched it.

It's like Freddie Kruger was scary to me. But then again, like when did the first scary, uh, Freddie Kruger come? out, man. It had to have been in the 80s. It's like a scary movie, but it's like more of like a action horror movie. Yeah. It's so good. Nightmare. 1984. So think about that. I was four years

old when that came out. And I watch it. It's about a child killer. Now type in the exorcist, the original Exorcist movie. Dude, those movies are iconic. Now that shit is. Like the original. Have you seen Scary Terry? Oh, fuck that. I will not watch this one. You seen Scary Terry? No, what is that?

I don't think that's the one, man. Let me see the cover. He's got like a ball sack. It's Freddie Krueb. Click on Vasili Monarras. It's like, what's up, bitches? Oh, it's so good. Down and to the right. Yep, that one.

Click on that image to the right. Scary, Terry, bitch. Yeah. I just want to see if that is not. No, no, no, no, no. That's not it. That's not it. Go back, backpack.

Oh, I take it is. No, I'm looking. That one. The Exorcist up top. Bless up. Yeah, that one. That one. Yeah, that's the Exorcist right there.

That I watched when I was four years old. My aunts were watching it That's not scary anymore What? There's no way What was that time you watch it? Huh? Have you ever seen it?

I've never seen it Oh my gosh I remember this That shit ain't scary Yo, that shit is scary yo That face I remember it as a kid Well they jump scare you on like Oh my god

Imagine seeing that as a young year old yo They jump scary with that thing They's walking on the stairs like this Oh my god Nah see evil dead like The power of Christ repels you If someone like Yes

Do you know what I am getting so, like, freaked out right now. You should change it. Really? Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, you change the shit, man. I love horror movies. I think, like, the original Halloween series is the- No, that's not scary, though.

No, as a kid, that's scary. This is a fucking evil spirit that took over this woman, this young girl's life. Dude, if you actually, if you can get over it, you got to watch the haunting of Hill House on Netflix. It's like a 10-episode series. What a fucking show. It's not only the best horror series of all time. It's like the best, one of the best TV shows in general. It's the number one.

It's the 10, 10. Number one is the scariest movie of all time. Keep going down. You've never seen it, Seth. Wait, hereditary is good. I've seen hereditary. I've seen the conjuring. Dude,

the first conjuring had me shitty. I've seen the Shining. I have not scary. I have not seen Texas Chainsty. That's not scary. The ring is, I see the ring. It was all right.

All that, those are like clencher. It's like, oh, you better run. Sinister 8. Now, see this list is fucking cap.

They literally did a scientific. Insidious. I've noticed. It was like, it? It was like, bro, I'm telling you.

Seth, you should, if you're, if you have the cohoones that you say you do, watch the exorcist, the first one. Okay. And then just, you got to get out on your Netflix or something. Evil dead, like. Or rent it? The first Evil Dead, she's in the basement and shit. And there's like a guy and she's like, it's possessed.

She's like, why don't you come down here? Let me suck your dick, pretty boy. At that's not scary. At that point. Yeah, exactly. It's great. Now what we're doing tomorrow is we're all picking a movie. us three we're gonna pick a movie

and all watch it on the flight to Toronto at the same time like a cool ass movie No, he'll handle hands also Wait where you say you're sitting next to him You mean to kiss your forehead after It was actually his idea you're fucking weird To Seth or isn't It was it was his idea too

Fucking weirdo Yeah, cool's idea yours He's like what movie we're watching? Yeah he does No he doesn't no I don't sleep on flights He doesn't unless it's like I Unless it's like to fuck like Australia I had to sleep I do it was like 17 During a flight to London, I woke up like three times.

And every time I looked to my left, I saw Seth just watching something. I was just thinking, you know, this bull is crazy. He's been up for this whole way. Just torture myself, bro. I'm gone. The second I hit that neck rest, I'm gone, gone. All right. How was it?

I had friends from Chicago come to visit. So I couldn't and wasn't a part of the last watch party for this season here. how to go. I think it's great as always. I mean, it's just good time. Yeah, same thing. Matches were... I mean, the matches, to be fair,

for end of the year matches, like they were good, but some of them were a little slow. But now we just have major and champ, so all the matches we watch from here on out are going to be fun besides, like, I mean, London's probably going to get eliminated first round in losers.

Like, there's going to be a couple matches, but it's the major. So it's going to be, it's going to be dope. I can't wait for the major because we have a dope spot too. We can like see the crowd. We'll be able to hear the crowd because like at our major, we were backstage. And then at major four there was obviously no crowd. So this one we're going to be able to hear the crowd while the match is going on.

So because we're like in the upper concourse. So it's going to be dope. I can't wait. I can't wait, man. I can't. Is it in the same spot as last time? Yeah, same place. So the players are going to be in the locker rooms?

Yep. smelling that must. That musk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it must or must? I actually cannot wait, dude. Yeah, walking in. I can't wait. Is it must?

I don't know what I did. I say musty. Yeah, I mean, I heard of musty, but musk? I thought it was musk. Yeah, those rums are a little crusty. It's in like an old hockey stadium and that smell lingered. You smell the sweat and blood. You smell it, yeah.

Shicklots. I'm sure people still play there. Yeah. So you smell, you smell it, but yeah, it's going to be great. I think we're the clear favorites going into it as well. Hopefully. Just come past me. He's like, are there any good lakes that we can fish that in Toronto?

No, boise. We want to go fish and like the first day that we got there. So hopefully they finally get, get one. There's musky. Canadian alligators. They have it up there. Muskie. Very, very.

So don't go in the water. No, you can go in the water. Hell no. What? Don't be scared, man. They're not alligators. Anything with more teeth than me. I'm not fine.

Matt, show him a picture of a Canadian musky. Yeah, there you go. That one. They got teeth. Oh, yeah. So you can't, how, so you can't. You can't limp them. You got to grow them from the gill.

Oh, yeah. Look at that. You don't want to get bit by those little. No, show them the teeth. Show them the mouth to the left. Oh. Look at those things. Ooh.

Damn. So when you reel it in, you just have to hold it like a, like a big sub. Like a log. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much the way that you were holding the fish. See, in these you have to, sometimes you have to do the figure eight with your reel. Like right next to your boat.

just a big figure eight aggressive to make them fucking strike but they're uh they're they're really really good fish to catch they they fucking fight like hell have you caught you've caught those yeah have ever caught and then cooked them and an eight uh we did that once yeah did it did it taste good yeah of course it's fresh i wouldn't need a bass though personally or or a small you can fish flounder yeah you can fish any fish i want to fish flounder that's my favorite A flounder? You like tilapia?

Yep. Yeah. Bottom fingers. I do like tilapia. Yeah. Toulopi. I'm always like, oh, tilapia is the worst.

Tlapia is fucking tasty. It's good. Yeah. Just the lemon on top. Look at how weird they look. Get it blackened or something. Oh. Good shit.

Look at that guy. I mean, goodness. Imagine what's down there at the bottom, man. Bro, imagine what's really down there at the bottom. Like sometimes I see, I see the, what else I tell Andrews is like, I won't. fish for a shark ever again. I already did that. And I don't like going out in the sea unless it's,

of course, to go swimming with sharks. And by that, I mean inside a cage to see like a great white. Like I am going to see, I am going to witness. Why do that though? I just feel like my you're going to be in a cage. But why do it? Because do you. It's not worth the risk. You're in a cage. I've seen those motherfuckers go right through the cage if they want to. If that shark wanted to, the cage is no longer. I'm going to be well equipped. That cage. Two of them just swim as fast as they can, just did that three times. The cage is done.

And how do you tell them to pull you up? You pull. Exactly. What are you going to do when they swim away, swim back up? I'm a, I'm a very fair on life. They're under you at that point. I'm a life guy, so I don't do things that I think could jeopardize my life. Yeah, I'm a life guy too.

I won't skydive. I've done that. I won't go into a shark fucking cage. I fought one. I'm scared of helicopters now. Yeah. I've heard too many stories with helicopters. So let me see, Matt, have they broken through?

Oh, yeah. I mean, what could you do underwater? You're literally moving in slow-mo. Don't show him. This is going to ruin his experience. I've watched Shark Week, dude. Like right there, get me on the boat. Start getting me on the boat. Now, now.

Look, right here. Like, we're fighting. Like, don't even open that. Like, right there, he went in there with him. Oh, my gosh. Oh, she's see that blood? Is there blood? No.

Oh, I thought you were here. Yeah, go ahead. You can't go out there. Yeah. Oh, my. Oh my god. Oh, he's bleeding. He probably heard himself doing that dumb shit.

Yeah, see. Wait, so where's the human that was in that cage? We're about to see right now. Stream right now as you're watching. Is it, where's the guy? Oh, he ate him. Yeah, let's look at the camera. He had the camera.

What the hell? TFC, I'm good. I mean, I need a sword to go down there. He swam out of the cage. He got out of the cage. The guy did. Yeah. Also, I was on edge as soon as we started fishing.

First thing Mike said, don't worry over there. There's no rattlesnakes. Said what? Rattlesnakes. I'll fucking ship myself. All right. Thank you, Matt.

Yeah, I worry about the water moccasins. Anyway, so I would. Yeah, the watermockers was the only thing. And again, like. They're poisonous. Sort of. Are those water snakes? Yeah, water moccasins.

Water moccasins. Yeah, they're poisonous. Yeah, sort of. They're the little guys? No. They can get big. They can get big, but that little. And there was definitely some of that lake.

I don't know. What do I look like? Bear Grills. What fuck is that? Huh? It was Bear Grills. Wait, what? You're serious.

Bear Grills? Chat, you guys know where Bear Grills is? You're fucking around. Bear Grills? I got to Google this. Bear Grills. Dude, do you definitely watch this Channel 72? Oh, Man versus Wild.

70 was a Yankees game. It was like, or was it? For a long period in my life, I watched every single survival show out there. every single one, man versus wild, women versus, uh, or there was another one that someone else did one in the wild. I'm loyal to what's his name? Not men versus wild. Survivor man.

No. Yeah, Survivor Man. Less, he was nice. I fucked with his. Who died of this thing, right? Steve Irwin. Steve Irwin. Steve Irwin.

Yeah. But he wasn't, he wasn't. He didn't do this. No, he didn't do this. He was just a zoologist. These are the original, like this guy is the original. Would set up a camera, walk far as hell. Come back.

Get the camera. Yeah. Here's the Casey Nye set of the outdoor. Yes, man. Yes. I respect people like this because it can never be me ever. I think I'm too pretty for that shit, but I still know how to do it. And if I had to.

I'm just scared of what's out there. At the end of the day, did it feel good to be outdoors and doing like primitive shit? It felt like I was like 14 again after like football practice or something where like you're drained. You were out all day. You were in the sun. Like you feel good. I feel like we can make this happen. There's a way where we could like have a helicopter drop us off to an island.

They're on standby. And we just chill there for like three days I'd be down, you down? I'd be down. If you're down, I can make that happen any day of the week. Bro, it's... We should do it. And, and...

Bro, we'll bring snacks and shit. You wouldn't... You wouldn't do it? No, we'll have food. We'll have food. We'll have food. It's just about surviving. We can do like a $100.

It's surviving when you pull out a bag of cheese. Cheez-its. Okay, well, you have a choice. You can buy a granola bar instead of cheese. I'm not just dropping on an aisle. no food. No, no. Obviously we're bringing,

but I'm doing that. Hell no. We're bringing fire and we're bringing, you know, sustenance. Water for sure. Bringing that gong. Bring that gong.

Can't forget the gong. Can't forget. We did forget it though. Never, never, never. Yeah, I think it'd be good. I think the people want it and I think that we should make that happen

personally as a person, period, and a story. Tomorrow we are on our way to Toronto. My man, money biscuits, it's not going to go. It said FaceLand Reported. lays off 40% of the staff on the bullet point. What did you say?

Not talking about them. We're not talking about that. So we're leading to Toronto. Mark is not going to be joining us. So it's just going to be my man, Zinn, Skumper. It's going to be myself. It's going to be, Seth, Zinn, myself.

And there's going to be, obviously, people there, too. They're going to hop on. So we'll be, we'll have a good show. We're going to miss you, man. The crowds, for sure, going to miss your analytical skills. They're going to miss you.

They always say, where's both? Did you say your analytics are going to miss you? You're going to sneak that over. You'll be, you'll be, with us. In spirit? Keep bumping that one night. My room president.

You're never too far away, kid. No, no, no. I think it's gonna be good. Toronto's one of the favorite city that we've ever visited. Zinn apparently has every single night tracked as to what we're gonna eat.

I don't have all the reservations yet, but that was my city for two years. Yeah? I love it. I got a trail planned out. We're gonna walk the, uh... You're on to the fish shop?

The waterfront? What? The fish store? Hell yeah. Can we go to the market? it? There's a, there's a, there's a good lunch spot called the fish store. It's just, bro, you're going to love it. Just wait. Perfect vlog. I think I can imagine with the cell. I need, I need, I need, uh, what, fish? What? I need the camera. I need the camera. There's a super good fish spot

out of here. I can't my little cameras. I'm going to vlog. Oh, are you? Yeah. I wouldn't not. I should use my phone, dude. You have a new iPhone 14? I think I should just use my phone. I think I like vlogging with the phone more than I like the camera. The quality is great on The quality is great. The audio is the only thing that sucks, but the audio sucks on the cameras that you guys have anyway, so just give it back.

I can give it back for a price. Yeah, of $1,200. If you want some, like, fresh-ass fish out here, go to T-G's. If you eat inside, shit is expensive as fuck. It's called T.J's seafood or something market. It's super small.

There's like six seats. It's out here. You said expensive? It's expensive, but the shit is fucking fire. A fire. You're swiped at every meal. Bro, three people will be like four hundred. What?

But bro, this is some fresh, good shit. Thank you, Optic. You know, let's get the Caymus select. We will be drinking. We will be drinking wine. Yeah, well, I'm not going to, I'm going to probably some dinners I'll have a few, some dinners that I probably won't because I am cutting back on calories. That's very good.

Tomorrow's going to be steakhouse. Last night we had a few glasses of wine when we were watching Secession and shit, and I thankfully didn't go up and wait, so I thought I was going to go up, because usually when you drink, you blow it a little bit, but I didn't go up at all. So I'm going to portion my drinking out. That's good.

Yeah. That's very good. In a month, we're going to be heading over to Nature's Bachelor's Bachelor party, so did you book your stuff yet? In a month? I think it's in like a month. Damn.

Like middle of June, I think. Champs is in the middle of June. The weekend right before that. It's before Champs. Yeah. So we might go from here to where we're going for the bachelor party And then we might as well just go from there to there Jesus well we have we have the halo optic hit we have halo dream hack the weekend after after Toronto

So what is it weekend after Toronto we have dream hack and then do we have next weekend champs or is there a week off? I guess you've a bachelor party. Yeah and then I'm staying in Vegas for Nameless his bachelor party all I see his fucking dollar sign you life's getting busy I'm married bro hold on you're not going golfing right if they go golfing you're staying yeah are you coming to the

you haven't replied to that threat at all bro I'm not just going to insert myself I'll be there I'll see people there like what are we gonna conversate about you know what I was that's what Nate they've been roasting you he texting me chat and shit too

they're like you guys are too good to respond or some shit really I don't know I just You just read that shit or put it on silent? It's on silent, yeah. Like, I don't know. It's all numbers you don't know. Yeah.

I hear you. I understand. I'm not just going to be like, yeah, what up, guys? Like, all right, I'll see you out there. We'll turn out of a good time. Yeah, man. It'd be good time. Yeah, they were talking, they thought Seth and I were going to be out there on the golf

carts like two days in a row. I'll show up when I show up. I'm not going on the golf course. Apparently, there's a bunch of guns there that we can shoot. That ass? Yeah, man. There's a bunch of... You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to bring a... We should, we should, I'm going to look where it's at and there's lakes. We're bringing rods. Well, I'll bring the reels because those are the expensive part. We'll just buy rods there. Not bring, bring my baby, my baitcaster. How to hell do you pack a rod to fly with? No, you don't.

You buy it there, but the bait, the, the, the reel is just the, I was getting nests out by myself and shit. Like, they don't even know what they're talking about. Can you fly with that shit? With reels? It's just the, it's just the, it's just the, it's just the, the whole thing. The rod. Yeah. You can travel with that.

He's got to check it in, I zoom? Yeah. It goes under. It goes in the other. I need to get a suit for his wedding. Dude, I need to get, for whose wedding? Namelesses. Oh, you're going?

When is that? I have so much. Beginning of July. You guys want to talk about something. Let's talk about this, this big, big Csgo tournament that just happened this past week. Were you watching?

Yeah, they're filling out stadiums, man. Yeah, I didn't watch the whole thing, but I watched like the semis final, yeah. Fatality gets the win in Paris. Pretty dope. People went there because it was the last major in that format. In that format or in that game? On that game, sorry, yeah.

Isn't CS2 literally CSGO but upgraded? Just re-skinned, smokes look a little different. Well, the smokes are awesome because now they're like if you throw a neigh through it, like it opens up the smoke. That's crazy. Yeah, that shit's fire. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah.

I was thinking of a, I was thinking to start to play it because I was like, I was getting the itch because it's like a good op game and I was getting the HHS all S&D which is awesome and I was getting the it's who like want to play it but I've always stayed away from it because I know that I'm going to get addicted to I was addicted to fucking battalion so that's why I'm like I'm like now I rather just do what I'm what I'm doing but be opening cases and spending cash oh man you know me man all right so for the CDL teams already designing custom model click on that um bro no one's designing shit, they give you like one thing to change.

No, but I do think like we've been getting our asses cake in terms of... Yeah. I'm coming back. Bro, it literally looks the exact same. Wait, go up, Matt. I mean, yeah, it's MW3. The character, the character, Matt, so we can see this thing here. This is in the actual, this would probably just like, what is this?

Dixurto. That's one last year. No, that's from last year. It's Desserto, man. Desserto? Yeah, it's not Dexterto. I thought this was like a sneakie. It's not Dexerdo.

What the fuck's the X for then? Why is it not a C? Mexico? Descerto. Decerto. Okay. So back in the day, there used to be a website called Decerdo.com. D-E-C-E-R-T-O.com.

Well, when the separation happened with Chris Marsh, Michael Kent, and Joshua, Nino. Anyway, so they, through the separation, they weren't able to retain it because they kept the right. So they're like, all right, we're just going to rename a De-E-X. ERTO in color. Desserto. It's Desserto. Everybody always says Dixerta. I'm just like, it's Desserto.

Desserto. Dessertor, gosh darn it. What the fuck we're talking about? Oh yeah, Matt, go back to it. So essentially what's happening right now is the way they do is like, this is the bottle that you get to design and there's a whole bunch of rules and regulations, right? And like, yeah, they put a lot of parameters on the things that you can do, but other teams have done a really, really good job at designing the shit that they designed.

We just been getting our asses kick. It's not great. We're going to see what's up. I'm going to, going to, going to go forward, my hands are going to touch those designs now. You're going to touch that YouTube contract too. What you mean? What do you mean? What do I mean?

You shut that shit down. You think it's going to YouTube? Yes. Well, not if I can have a say in it. I think if everybody just conforms for the short-term bag instead of letting us grow, for the long-term bag, It's just fucking stupid. Correct. Why?

You get a two to three year bag for YouTube or whatever platform it is, and then we die, and then what? What was it for? Then we're back to the CWL. Or you bet on ourselves for one or two years. Then that contract becomes either bigger or at least at a point where it's sustainable on a different platform. We're not there yet. I like the insight from you guys.

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for something that's for multiplayer happening, that's where I have an issue. Because they're obviously selling millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and dollars on skins. And we're investing millions and millions and millions of dollars to do this thing for the spot. But then on top of the world, we're also investing millions of dollars

on the talent for that thing. All they have to do is open up the spiket. I think people, everyone calls like a $25 million league, but they forget about the salaries, the flights, Like operating the team, you're looking at probably. Don't say probably, you do the math. You're probably looking at five, five mil a year on like operating costs,

depending on your roster. I'll show you. Okay, that may be a little extreme. Two mil, three mil. You're spending a couple mil a year. Oh, yeah. Depends on the team. Salaries.

I mean, yeah. Like, there's a lot of shit. You know, there. The top teams are spending a couple mil at least just to operate. Yeah. But yeah, I agree with you. That is thieves. Why is it not shown the CDL skins?

I mean, I'm sure that war zone is sitting. No, but even those CDL skins, like those, like the amount of money that's really made on that could be so much better. How much is this skin? Yeah, it's like $10. $10? $10 for the optic one. I bought it. Look, it's, this is what I'm saying.

If the league wanted to, if Activision wanted to, they can give us four skins to design a quarter for a year. year, every year, and it would pay. It would be, no, it would, same year. The first quarter, first quarter, maybe. The cheat code is making it like a casual skin. The cheat code is making a skin that isn't like the rose skin for thieves. Exactly. Yeah, it's like, oh, that could be optic.

It's like a cool ass color. I don't know if they thought of it like that, but if someone did. No, they did. Again. Whoever did that, genius. Yeah. We're all playing out of the same rule. So like, there's no excuse for it.

don't understand like how does so like little things like that like is there no one on like for instance like showing the multiplayer camos and all that shit on the cdl stream why wouldn't you show the cdl team ones exactly well that's that's that's where my issue like what like where like also the uh you know what i'm Microsoft deal got approved in the UK they've been trying to get that approved in the well it got approved in Europe the UK is still oh really that would yeah and I don't think the US has has approved it either like there's like uh Mattson? Yes.

Regulatory issues? Yes, regulatory issues. Succession. I think they're worried about them having a monopoly, right? On gaming? Is that the whole thing? They're worried that they're going to have too much? Imagine a world.

Imagine a world where you're told how much you can do like, okay, you can only be this successful. You know what I mean? I got to everybody has to have their opinion because everybody has to get theirs. You know what I mean? I'm just worried about the YouTube thing. If we go to YouTube, I don't, I don't, I don't, know if we'll like actually make it through.

What do you think? What do you think happens? I think it... Don't just say, I think the viewership comes down, it dies and then sponsors like, what do you actually think happens? The problem is... Like, walk it through in your head. I forget who I was talking to about this. It needs to be... Let's say it goes to YouTube and it's like a slow burn, slow death. It needs to be a fast death.

What the fuck you're pointing at? So does the optic burn? Making a ness. And they're making an Ness. I mean, I said it yesterday on the watch part. You'd rather be like a fast death. That way, Whoever, e-sports engine, whoever would take control, takes control. I don't think our e-sport dies. If it were to die, if the franchise model were to die really quick, I think we'd be able to like regroup and like, we'd be on Twitch, we'd have 16 teams,

we'd have probably some more name brand teams back in the league. Salaries will go down. I mean, it's not going to be this big, players are going to make less money. Salaries are inflated already. Yeah, but but viewership's not going to go down. The problem is if we go to YouTube and it's like a three-year deal and it's slow, lead just like drops off year by year. Bro, I'm a firm believer.

Once you really lose it, it's very hard to get it back. Like you could, you can make do, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's the same thing that always happens. The first event's going to have probably 100,000 viewers on YouTube. Everyone's going to be like, oh, we don't need Twitch. And then major three, major four, there's going to be 20,000 viewers, maybe less watching league matches. And just wait.

Yeah. No watch parties. Yep. It's going to happen. It always does. It happened whenever it was on YouTube last time. It's going to happen again. They got to re-format, man.

Unless the game is fucking black ops two level, which. Instead of league matches, you do like a big $10,000 online tournament instead of league matches. That way you can watch all the teams. It's like actually they're playing for money. I don't know. History will repeat. You have to create hype. You'll have league match hype for the first two majors.

And then look at it right now, major four. I mean, no one's really tuning in. Even on. Even on Twitch, the viewership has taken a pretty big hit. So imagine YouTube where the discoverability isn't as good. Oh, man. I just think some players are under for a rude awakening. Yeah.

Like the inflated salaries, it sucks to say because we were a part of that. I mean. Well, let's not say we. Sorry. I was a partner. Are you saying my salary was inflated? Listen, I'm not going to say it. If there's one thing for sure, is that an optic you're always going to.

to get what you fucking put in. Fair is fucking fair. So, okay, he's an anomaly. It's fair. Fair. But you have rookies these days who are making 200K. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. If you have an up-and-coming rookie who has

three offers? They're not, bro. Back when I was 18. And like, you know this by seeing this or just listen to them? Yeah, no. I mean, because I can guarantee you there's people in the league that hear other people talk and just want to match like what they're saying. There are 18, 19 year old making 200 K. They're like, how much Lamar Jackson get?

But like, bro, if you're, I want that. There's no way you're making 200 grand if you're just, like, you're not doing any content for them. I mean, maybe, but. That's what makes no sense about salaries. It's like, what's the actual incentive to winning? Let's say Team A wins every single tournament, but collectively they have 50,000 followers and they don't do anything. How much value do you put on a team that's constantly winning, but you can't. advertising. There is no brand behind them. That was the biggest thing I've dealt with through this whole thing

is learning your value. Orgs are paying so much money for players to perform and they're fucking great players. But how was that player making you money? That's what I've never understood. How is, sure, you can give him 400K and he's one of the best players in the world, but what is he making for you? How do you get to, how do you see return? And that's the biggest problem. That's why it's inflated. It's like it makes no sense to me. Logically makes no sense. I mean, merch, ticket sales, brand deals, sponsors obviously I mean that's it

ticket sales only three or four teams host a major per year and you've got to pay to throw it so the cost to throw a major is already steep depending on your location and your fan base

you may not have to make your money back correct for sponsors you hopefully have sponsors to have the booths merch who knows how certain teams merch sells I don't know

you're saying it's a bad business model it is I fucking hate to say that because I hope this thing lasts for 30 years Teams want that quick payout. They want a little injection. Feel something for a little bit. Get some dope.

Yeah. It's time to double back. You got to see it from their perspective too, right? Let's call. If the league dies, everyone gets their money back, right? Or a portion of their... I don't know. They're fucking pregnant on its downfall.

They get a portion of it back, right? Huh? They get a portion of it back, right? I don't know. I don't know how that works. Jesus. I don't know how that's down. that works, but I can tell you that you got to look at it also from the perspective of good,

well-intentioned people that said, you know what, let's participate in this thing, and let's get these kids paid. You know, there's a lot of money being made off of the backs of their work and their worth. Let's let's pay them something. And yeah, it got a little bit crazy in some scenarios, but what else can they do? Like, you can't blame, you can't blame them for putting themselves in the position that they're in because they were told that this is the way that you do things. They, they, you know, some of these people were sold on the fact that is like, hey, at least on Overwatch, right? And I've never had, I've never been to an Overwatch owner's meeting ever. Not when I was the Houston outlaws.

Not when it was the San Francisco shock. And not when it was when it is Dallas Field. Never been to one. Never been on a phone call. I don't know anything about that. But I do know, however, that the, the group that originally bought Optic from me, like they were told is like, look, in Overwatch, look at this list. Look at this list of Overwatch. These are all the Texas players and these 10 up here are in our top 10 globally.

Those are the players that you should be going after and then they're going to be competing in your home city because everybody else that plays is potentially going to show up to watch like they do in your traditional sports. They and all the sports teams that you have. So they're like oh yeah, that makes sense to me. Like those are the pro players. But everybody knows that how many pro players actually play ranked even when there wasn't a lot of it. even when there wasn't ranked or how many players are just ranking up casually on something like regular pub games. Those aren't the pro players. Everybody knows that there's a massive difference between the top 250 and actual pro players, right?

What? Well, no. He's saying the casual fan base and e-sports fan base just aren't the same. Like, yeah. Like a war zone player could play war zone 10 hours a day and not know who you are. That's the reality of it. Oh, 100%. And that's, I think that's what you're trying.

trying to say, right? It's like just because you have the top talent doesn't mean people are going to come watching. No, what I'm saying is that people just play the top, let's say the top 250, let's say number one, two, three, four, and five right now. Can you make a team out of that that that can be? Yeah, that's what I thought he was saying. And people actually think that and that is not true. What I'm saying is that if you if you look at at the call of duty, no, right now, ring. People are in chat saying, oh, there's top top top 250 teams that could beat London. And I'm like, people, people disrespect London. Yeah. No, no, it's not even disrespectful. That's just the overall thought in general, so it's really easy to convince somebody from...

Huh? I disrespect London. Yeah. Well, you're a former professional and you played against London this year. I speak objectively. But yeah, just because the team can't be other pro teams does not mean challenger players. No, that's not what I'm saying. Because players could beat them.

We're talking about top 250 rank kids that find some that aren't cheating, first off. Yeah. Like the, okay, so we're just talking about the kids that we know, like if a random kid I know, like I know from playing him in rank. Yeah. Can you put four of those people together and beat me? No, just go to the top and say one, two, three, four. They are getting fucking slam. Listen, you go to the top four.

If there's a pro up there, we exclude them. We start from the normal ranking. Yeah, from the normal ranking. And you remove all the cheaters and just the true top number one, two, three, four that aren't already pro players. One, two, three, four that are casual players that fucking dedicate their life to rank to be good. They thought that would be their competitive team. They dedicate their life to rank. London is literally screaming pro teams.

London will still beat them. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm just saying, but that's how they were sold on it. So if it's confusing to us right now, as we were speaking about it for the last two minutes, imagine to somebody who says, hey, these are just the top five people. That's who you should go after because they are in your region and the, you know, because it's localized. Everybody from that area is going to be attracted to that. Sure.

Of course, that is a possibility. Of course. People from around here go to the Mavs game because it's a night out. It's a date night. It's something like that. But that's not where e-sports is, and it won't be there for a long time. And the other thing is, right?

It'd be like this, right? Good point. Honey, we're going to watch Scrap tonight. Let's go. Scrap first insight. They're on the same team. Come on, man. What do you mean?

Come on. Scrap first, Paul X. Let's move. There you go. Get your bag. Hurry, we're late. What I'm saying is that that's not what it is now. Wait, people actually do do that, you fucking asshole.

People look forward to watching the CDO. Dude, shut up. No, they do, but he's saying it's not like a date night. We're not there yet where it's like super casual to go watch a movie. No, it is a date night now, but for events. No, it's not. For some people, it is. Okay, you guys are arguing two different things.

You're a fucking asshole. How? You're saying it's not a date night for anybody. There's a lot of people out there. You want to tell you what you're saying. Here, here, yeah, yeah, let me say it. We don't have weekly matches as the CDL where people get a chance to go there from the same area. There's no localized place that people go to.

Sure. That's what I'm saying. If you're in Dallas, you can go catch a Mavs game. In order to go watch a CDL team, you need to book a whole trip. Yeah, and that's to an actual event. Majors, like, no. No, I would just say it's not like a casual night out. Well, for people that are in that city, it could be.

For that major weekend. But yeah, there's not a consistent night out. One weekend out of the month. Yes. Correct. So that's the, that's the main thing. I didn't know what you were saying. I didn't know what you were saying.

I thought you were saying that just nobody like, no, I mean, people of course go to events. I see couples at events all the time. That's what I thought you were saying. It's just not as like a Mavs game. And on Thursday, you can say, we're going to the Mavs game tomorrow and I screw, let's go do something. You can't do that with Cod or really any sport. Correct.

But that business model would fail because it probably wouldn't sell enough tickets. Yes. Just think about a world. I'd be putting on events. Don't you get tired of putting this shit on your back? You'd be losing money every. Yeah. Yes, I fucking do.

No, it's not even that, right? Like, it's not even like I'm, I'll never be like it's all because I'll never say like, oh, I'm carrying this. I'll never say that because there's, I'll never say that because there's, It's a team. It's team versus team. So there's many people that do that. But I do, I do get tired of fucking trying to guide in the right way.

And maybe it's the way I look, the way I dress, the way I fucking talk, that people just don't fucking want to listen to me for whatever fucking reason. I don't care what it is. But it gets tiring trying to fucking tell people the most common sense thing to not do.

And fucking for five years, they've been fucking like going. I think they, like they hear what I said. They're like, okay. That's what he says. So let's not do that.

Let's fucking do this shit right here instead. And now we're going to, We're going from this is what it could have been to now this is what it is but let's like try to go over here but it's no more Like for the last four years

We should have been building To build this thing Instead of what they want What it doesn't fuck All that needs to happen Is a good call of duty Needs to be made And it needs to stay on Twitch

And it will blow the fuck up A good call of duty multiplayer Stop giving us re-skinned Fucking Warzone maps Give us actual call of duty maps Give us hit scan back No more this bullet travel time trajectory bullshit and multiplayer.

It's not, it's a different game. Good game. Twitch, it will blow up. Good maps. The game, good content. It will grow. Because right now the game is not good. But Twitch is imperative for what you to say. Correct.

We've got to say Twitch. Twitch needs to stay or it's going to fail. What I'm saying though is that you cannot blame the people that invested into this league for wanting to make a buck on it because they're spending money on it. Well, they also saw a future in it. Yeah, but they. saw a future because that that's what they were like, they were sold on something. This is what,

this thing right here, this water has fucking 12 different nutrients. In theory. They forget to, they forgot to add in theory to the fucking pitch. Give us dead silence. Give us what it is. They just took that as like, that is what it is. And it's it has nothing to do with that. It has nothing

to do with the league has nothing to do with in game mechanics. You're talking about the thing that matters, which is the audience and how to build the audience with a good game. Yeah. I'm talking about the economics that it takes to fucking run a fucking franchise league that shouldn't have been. But I think it's all one thing.

You think it should have never happened? No, I think that we should have been more patient in the way it happened. There must be a more harmony E-Sports more? Huh? Grow Call of Duty E-Sports more? I think that...

I think that... Because it was already grown and then they fucking murdered that shit. I think people confuse. I think even Activision confuses the difference between helping

Call of Duty e-sports and building an e-sports league and they're not the same thing. When you're building a league, you're building an economic world in which franchisee owners make a profit and

through that players benefit. What should have happened is that we should have concentrated on truly given resources to e-sports and creating all of the things that will make the player play a more fair and exciting game. that silence, like the things that you're talking about. That, that should have been number one.

Those are the resources that should have been like skins that go in there. Like that should have been the thing. That should have been it. Because theoretically, if they gave us skins to sell on a quarterly basis, not only could we have paid the salaries of the people and the staff of the people that work in that franchise for those 12 franchises, but we would have also been making enough money to pay the franchise fees back to the fucking league.

but we don't have that. Yeah, but right now they think that giving us a league is, it was helping esports and it wasn't. Helping esports would be allow for Call it duty ESports to remain on Twitch. That would be helping esports.

Those are resources we fucking need. Not here is, you can sell this, but you can sell that. It seems like they're about the sacrifice one for the other. No, they didn't even do that. But like if they were to go, let's say it goes to YouTube, is it not sacrificing the growth for like profit or trying to get a dime? It's instant gratification. I don't know.

The whole thing is just, I will say we saw growth this year. So like we're talking very negative. But why? But Twitch. Yeah, watch parties. Twitch and watch parties. I mean, uh, Zuma. I think Nick Merck's is doing one of champs.

Like they, like people are watching. But it has to stay on Twitch. And we saw growth because of Twitch. And we talk very negatively, but it's because we want to see this thing fucking go on for 20 years and 30 years. It's literally what we grew up with. Again, I just, I just, I don't think,

I want people to think about what I just said, okay? Activision thought that resources meant creating a league when resources actually meant dedicate something to make Call of Duty e-sports fucking better first, and then everything else is going to come from there. Okay, you cannot have a multiplayer with the rules of multiplayer and the releases of the versions as multiplayer

and apply those to also this and also every time that you do an update on Warzone, it fucks up this. That is not it. Instead, they gave us this league and say, what do you mean we haven't supported? Look at all the, all the advertisements that we're doing, all the people that were bringing in from traditional sports to fucking work on this. That's not what we needed. We needed developer help from the fucking beginning.

That was the resources that we needed from the beginning. That's the problem. And it's like, how do you convince the development? Well, the right person has to walk into the right room. Because if you're a developer, I'll say it how it is. If I'm the head of Infinity Award and my game is the bestselling game and I make a billion dollars, I make everybody happy. A year. Yeah. My shareholders are happy. People above me are happy. The game, no matter what the competitive community thinks, made billions. So there needs to be harmony up top where it's like these guys literally have to help call duty, sports grow. If there's no harmony, especially when we have different developers making different titles, you have Sledge, you have Trey Arc, you have Infinity Ward, you have Activision who

oversees. If there's no harmony and there's no consistency from game to game, then it's nothing. There's, we can't have a great, oh, Trey Arc gave was everything. It's great. This, this developer drops the game and now it's all gone. Like, it can't be like that. It has to be, there has to be consistent things that are literally in each title. Damn. Let's just stay on Twitch. That's, that's priority number one. Keep it on Twitch. Once we lose the viewers, We lose everything. You can have the best game in the world, but if we lose the eyes, it doesn't matter. It's fair.

Period. All right. What else? Christ. Adidas is starting selling stockpile of Yeezys. Matt, I love the fact that you're bringing in some sneaker culture into this thing. I like it. Easy sneakers.

How do you feel about this, Bose? You think Kanye is going to get a piece of this? Contractually, obviously he has to. His name's on there. Unless, I don't know contractually, since they separated, whether or not. who gave up what I will say that I think that the donation part of of because they were they had like how much was like four hundred million dollars worth of yeasies it's a billion dollars worth of worth of worth of leftover yeezy sneakers what were they going to do with it if they separated right

they couldn't sell it because connie was going to be like yo you're selling shit with a thing and I don't know what the separation agreement looked like or whether or not connie gave up rights to let that happen but I will say that that on complex sneakers podcast, Matt Welty, Joel Apuma, and Brandon motherfucking done, we're talking about it's like, Adidas should just don't, they can't destroy them. So they should just donate them to, you know, third world countries that need shoes. If they're not going to do it. So now, you know, I'm not saying that that was a sole reason, but now they're thinking it's like,

all right, let's sell some of these and then let's, you know, let's donate to things like the Philanese and Keita Floyd Institute for Social Change. What else? The German sportswear brands blah blah blah Star fights anti-Semitism. So they're doing both, right? They're doing anti-Semitism and of course social change

from the Pink Georgia Floyd family foundation. So they had to do something. Now what they didn't say is how much of it they were going to be donating. Are they going to donate only 10% of the proceeds? Is it going to be a meaningful stake, like 25%? What is it, right? I feel like they have to come out.

I feel like they have to say a figure, no? I don't know. Or they just keep it under locks and... I don't know. I don't know. I feel like they have to say a figure. I don't know. You know, back in the day...

But see, this is the thing, though. Back in the day, I mean, Adidas is a public company, so this doesn't apply to Optic. But back in the day when we had the pink jerseys for breast cancer awareness, like, I couldn't, in my head, I couldn't figure out how. I would donate and how much I would donate. So I decided I'm like, you know, since I'm not mature enough mentally to figure this out, I'm just going to make it an exclusive thing for the team to just erase awareness.

We're not going to sell them, et cetera, et cetera. So that is sense. You know what I mean? But like even then you have the fucking people, oh my God, you sell and you try to do something nice for charity. And then they're like, well, you only donated 10%. It's like, fuck off, buddy. What did you donate?

Yeah, what did you donate? How about you go fucking kick rocks? Eat jorts. Yeah. Eat jorts. Oh man. Those people are fucking insufferable. Never good enough for some people, man.

Yeah. Everybody knows what, what, oh my God. What did Logan Roy say? I just quoted him. Fuck off. No, no. Yeah. I just quoted him.

And I know he's a, he's a made belief person. But what he said is actually fucking like true. Right? It's like you make your own reality. and once you do, once you create what it is, everybody is of the opinion that it was always so fucking obvious. Right?

Like, yeah, obviously, as a, like, now it's like, yeah, obviously an esports organization should be a content machine. That's how they find. It's so obvious now, right? But while you were doing it as like, no, they're just YouTubers. You know what I mean?

Like, it's so obvious now that this is what I do. It's just fucking annoying. Anyway, what else is out there? What are you looking forward to the best at Toronto? Food. And the matches. Dude, I think it's all around. It's a great city.

Get to meet some fans. Toronto's always, the people there are always really respectful. My Canadians, they're always, you know, they're always super respectful. Like, a lot like London. I mean, I'm not dissing like North American fans at all. But, like, dude, I swear, they're always like, they're just so nice up there. They're in London. They're battered at 11 a.m.

Just, fuck you, babe. then that's all right. That's my kind of time. And it's incredible. They're just, I love it. I love Toronto last time we went there again. It was such a good time. Everyone's so nice there.

You don't have like people trying to troll. So this is the thing, okay? For the longest time, we talked about having like why it be cool to have champs in London. Yeah. But I think that we should, that one of the reasons why we should have champs in London is so that Americans fly to London for their friends. first time ever. You know what I mean?

Like, they need a reason to go to London. London's a great scene. I will warn you right now. Unless you look very, very fucking hard, you're not going to find excellent food. You're going to find things that make shit. Sure. But you're not going to find.

Dude, one time. I'm telling you. Go to me. That's not talking about it. Look at the reaction. But having said that. I got an Alfredo. These motherfuckers brought out plain noodles with an egg yolk on top.

And I was like, this is an Alfredo. What the fuck is this? Dude, I didn't touch it. I got an Alfredo. And they brought out like noodles with an egg yolk on top. No Alfredo sauce. Yeah. I'm so pissed.

Bro. I think you were just one of the ingredients? I was so mad. It's like when they give you a... Dude, we got lobster mac at the fucking bowling alley place. You remember that? And they gave us a lobster tail. There was no meat.

They just put a lobster tail on top. Dude, the crust. I was like, what the fuck is that? I'm not eating that. I got the same thing. We were like, where's the lobster? It's right there, isn't it? Let's go to London. I got us.

What do? Is this from the Tim's? I've had some good food. To be fair, to be fair, though, the people in the comments from London are probably like, because we went to like a bowling alley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is true. What did we expect to come out? You're not in Texas.

They go to Dishoom. They like Greg's there. Greg's is like, it's like a pastry shop or like you can get like, they have like these steak bake things. I mean, all my teammates are European, Cammy and Bance. So like when we were in Europe, like I, they kind of. They had the spots. Yeah, but do they have the spots?

I'm the food fucking guy. I'm telling you. Dishroom is great Indian food. Gordon Ramsey's Maze Grill was really good. That's American. Gordon Ramsey is from Tennessee, isn't he? I'm kidding. I don't fucking know.

I wonder where he's actually from. Matt, where's Gordon Ramsey from? Well, okay, long story short, where I was going is that we should so that we can give Americans a reason to fly to London. Just don't go to Blackpool. That's all right, Mayvon. That's all right. All right.

So again, I think, I think as you were saying that, I'm like, yeah, man. Like, I think Americans go into there, they need to experience London because it's a fucking dope-ass fucking town, period. Six tournaments. In no order. You're making the best tour. Toronto, London. Yep. Dallas, New York.

New York. Florida. Chicago. There's no Chicago. There's no Chicago. Florida. They don't want us in Chicago. What?

Imagine we had the Chicago event? No. No, Florida. Should have been lit, bro. It's supposed to be crazy, wasn't it? Boston or Miami. Boston or Miami. The motherfucker had giraffes.

I'm not talking fellows. Anyway. So you're doing a fellow. They'll be playing Florida first round. I think we'll end. I would love to throw an event in Mexico City, too. The Mexico City event that we went to for years of war was fucking n. Let's make it happen.

Okay? I would love to be. I want to travel. And we'll pick up one and we'll go out there and do a. Sharp match. Yeah. A show match against... Jackson teams play up.

Yeah. The other thing is like... Yeah. That's going to run you a little. Yeah. I'm going to look at... I'm going to be like, let's see. Okay, this is Ambo.

He deserves this. Who else is getting... Y'all can get this. You know what? Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in. We were all over the place. But to me, those are the favorite podcasts

that we typically do. And the ones that I listen to are the ones that just go on random tangents that give you insight us to the way that we were thinking about the things we're thinking about. Jamie. Correct.

Tart. Hopefully you see you guys in Toronto. It's going to be fucking dope. Yep. It's going to be dope. Can't wait for it. Can't wait for it. Final major of the season.

Good food, good night life, beautiful weather, beautiful city. I'm just, I just can't wait. So if you're watching right now, please know that three channels are live right now on Twitch. I'm going to pretend to be you. I'll make your channel live. All right. And I'll be running. Dude, watch how many.

That's crazy. You're just going to be streaming. You got to be streaming, not streaming. Actually, no, you can't. Wait, can't. Can you get the feed? No. All right.

Anyway, long story short, everybody. We'll see you guys in Toronto. Twitch.tv slash methods. Twitch.tv slash compt. Twitch. com. Twitch. com.

Maybe if you go, we'll figure it out. We'll see you guys later.