OpTic Podcast - THE LAST PODCAST FROM THE HECZQUARTERS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 146

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

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I'm having dreams where I wake up and it's every single night I wake up and it's just like like I said before it's like a psychological thriller and I wake up I like can't even remember what happened

but I like would just wake up and I'm like and that's like every single day like do you guys ever wake up and you're just like ah yeah every day every day pro I wake up unless I have like one bad dream a month

I need like 10 minutes to like you don't like sort myself out Okay, I'm like I'm really good with like remember in mind because if I can control that part like if I want to have like a vivid dream I'll go back to sleep at around like 5.30 after waking up like at 4.35. I'll go back after I go piss and shit. Literally. And then and then I know that because I know that the alarm is going to go off at seven to like literally like latest time that I can get started, I will have like a vivid-ass dream in which anything can happen

and I'm talking about I too have psychological thrillers but mine have twists inside of them same but then I can never remember them the most recent one that I had that I can remember is there was I had a falo or somebody came in with a small falcon and there was already a big falcon

like there was this this old man and a big ass falcon and then somebody came in and then the little falcon started to get lose, and I'm like, holy fuck, is it? It's going to get eaten by this. We are going. I don't know if we started yet.

We are gone. We'll plug the Sponsie soon. Continue. Continue. What was that? What was that? Rat shit. Fucking boogie.

A boogie. First day back at the hex quarters for a podcast. There has to be. Look at this fucking room. It's a big cemented. brevices and shit there is none there is none you would easily notice that there are

so what was just on your hands I think it might have been a booger no bullshit somebody else's burger so it was either where do you put your boogers when you're streaming on an afghan on the wall like Pam oh dude

let's not talk about that ladies and gentlemen welcome to episode 146 prints on the feeling I roll it up and look back at Pam Clicking at it Welcome to episode number 146 of the Optic Podcast Rocket Money Presented by Center Rocket Money, our sponsor, Center also

We'll tell you a little bit more about the litter on the podcast We are gathered here today In this cemented place Safe Haven for some Rat poop There's no rat poop, it was Rat shit infested No, it's not that

You know there's there is Just to be clear, there isn't any of that, although there should be because somebody orders food here and always always stays in the box for a long time. Long period of time. Who? I'm not going to say who, but listen, there's only two people that live here on a daily basis. Who is it? Matt and Brandon. Luckily, we have, like, how many mats do we have in the company?

Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, so many mats. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, we're coming at you from the hex quarters. We're doing one final week of content here. Optic Nation, Optic Gaming content here. But I'll probably be back here doing my own thing. I was thinking of maybe doing like a whatnot stream and getting rid of like a lot of the stuff from here. That shit would pop. Yeah, because, you know, like how do we give pieces of the hex quarters to people?

I'm taking those. I feel like you're collectible. You can take both of them. Well, Mike Trout's mind. No, no, no, no. Yeah, Pam's has his name on it. All right, best of three, but how do we do this? Rock papers, the Mike Trout bat.

The Mike Trout bat. Autograph. What's the other one? Let me get some. Let me get on us. I can get Poolews. I'll just take two PCs. Well, he was there.

Yeah, I was at the game, but I didn't like go downstairs. Yeah, we went downstairs. I just chalked up to Pam to watch me. He wouldn't care about. Albert Pujo's bat. No, but he's got his own from a, uh, Giovanni Soto, remember? Yeah, he's got his own.

I'll take the trout. I don't know what we're doing. Like, there's a lot of stuff here that I don't, I don't necessarily want to find a place for what? We're going to take those cans. Or actually, like the last day when everything's cleared out, put something over that wall that we can spray paint on and everyone gets their own little section

and everyone does their own little graffiti. Finally. Somebody thinking outside. About time. Do you like a little, yeah, people would like that, I think. Yeah, I don't know. There's got to be something you can put over the wall to like, right? There's material to practice on.

Okachobi? What did you say? Like a tarp or some shit? Like a what? Harp, I mean, you could spray paint on anything. Some kind of fake wall to just put on that wall. Then everyone gets a little section. So like these tables for example.

Bring stencils. Remember the one, two, three, five garage, the fake wall? Yeah. Yeah, that was hard, man. Like a fake wall over the wall. I mean, I guess we could start. What's the one that was like right there? Oh, we're talking about the garage.

At 1, 2, 3, 5. It was a fake brick wall. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For turtle wax. Yeah. They actually snapped. I still have the big Opta Gaming sign. Really?

That was put on the wall. You know how we had a lit? When you walk from the garage, when you walk downstairs into the basement. Yeah. Okay. And that wall, there was a light box wall. It was all white and it had the Opta Gaming logo on it. That logo I still have.

That logo that's above that door. You see it on that glass, above the door on the glass? That's from. 1235 that was what uh was what those the centerpiece of the living room yeah the living room no living room living room living room yeah living room where all the trophies got all the clothes over here yeah it's clothes yeah everything goes man like you know what so you know what can we do that this weekend when does this go live that's like fuck tomorrow what's tomorrow Thursday all right so Saturday or Sunday we're gonna do a what I'm gonna do a what and I

stream from here and we're gonna be putting some shit up for auction obviously like like I said There's some stuff that I'm not going to do. Like the carpet with the Optagaming logo on it, like, first of all, it had to be hung up. There's ain't nobody got to step on that logo. Have people never heard of fucking sports? People in my stream, they're like, why is your logo back there? It's upside down. Yeah, because you don't want me to step on it.

Yeah, but at least flip it, so it's right side up. No, not anymore. No, Pesa Pluma canceled this concert in Chicago again. Oh, bro. What? Wait, why? You, that's your homie? Okay, I'm going to tell you something.

He's going to tour with, bro. He's on tour. I am on tour. I'm a rowdy. How many concerts do you think I've gone to Pesopuma? How many Pesopulma concerts have I gone to? Three to four. Three or one?

One. Yeah, but you like. Jude and Liv have gone to a total of three, I believe. I like him as an artist, yeah. But I'm not going to be that. Oh, my God. I don't believe him. I think he's getting round

and he's like, yeah, fucking face of blue mom! I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you two things. One, if I'm in a concert, I am going to be fucking having fun.

Yeah. Anybody that records people dancing at a insane is like, wow, this guy's doing too much. Those are the new age. Those are a little losers. Yeah,

those are the new age people that don't know what a concert is and they just sit down. It happened. It happened. You do like your little shuffle there? Yeah.

That one, it's not, it's not that kind of music. I'm mostly bounce. Just like a day. It's just bouncing. See, that song was good He's getting rowdy, bro

Yeah, I would If I went to like Wutang, Like when I went to my, to the Wutang concert When I went to a fucking I was like, Oh, the most recent one I'm fucking 40 something

And luckily I was with like A bunch of like An entire fucking stadium Of 35 pluses in there You know what I'm saying? So everybody was like smoking drinking Like there's a fight over here

You know what I'm saying? Like you're a real 90 shit And once you lose that You It's all downhill. Yeah, from there. If you can't go to it. No matter what your age, if you can't have fun, let loose a little bit,

have some drinks, and it's downhill after that. I've only been to two concerts in my life, and they both, well, two like, I guess recording artists, because I've been to, like, a festival and, like some wub-wob. Yes, yes, some, like, EEM shit.

But they've both been Drake. Yeah, Drake's good. I love them. Oh, no. Drake was pretty good. Kanye Mac Miller. I wasn't, I didn't go to that. Oh, wait, at that. I missed out of that one. It was an awesome.

And it was small. Kim K was there. It was crazy. Yeah. Oh, this was for, uh, X games. X games. Yeah, I didn't go to that.

Everyone was talking about it, and I didn't end up going to it, and I was like, fuck. I didn't even know what was happening. It was so good. We were there. He, uh, Mac Miller comes out.

I was Nike on my feet, keep my side of completely. I took up my Nike. I was like, nobody else took off their Nike and I'm like, these fucking lame, you know, like, nobody knows how to fucking have. fun at these places. If you go to

concerts and you sit down in your seat and you're just like bouncing shyly just know that you're part of the fucking problem. Oh, Zinney was fucking at the Drake concert, we were in the suite. Zinny was on top of the table. Yeah, I love that. If he fell, it would have been a long drop. Poor people below.

Yeah, think about it. I was thinking about that at the baseball game because somebody reached to get a ball and I'm like, man, I've seen that so... I've seen that so many times where somebody like overreaches are drunk, they don't understand, they slip, they go over, and then the people below are fucked. What are you going to do?

But what the fuck were we talking about? Oh, so I was supposed to, no, anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm not ashamed of it. I like his music. How old is he? I'm surprised you became a fan.

So am I. So am I. Like, when was the last time you were a fan? Did I allow music to enter my, yeah. What was the last time? Before Peso Pluma, who from the last 10 years.

Mac Miller, really? Mac Miller. So you're in your G-Wagon and you listen to Mac Miller? I have, yeah. But only up to Blue Slight Park. And then maybe a little bit

of the red album. I don't even know the shit like that. Yeah. I got to get on his shit. The thing about, and this is like further proves that I'm on the spectrum according to my wife

who reads a lot. On the spectrum. Just everybody's on some sort of autistic spectrum. Where on it are you? Yeah, where on it are you, right? I wonder where I am. We were watching

Dexter, you've seen the show. What? You've seen the show Dexter, right? Him and the dark. And my girl thinks I'm like him. You're like, you have a dark passenger? Yeah, like. No, I got to start watching you.

I don't know. No, I guess I'm on that. Domer vibes. Nick is more dumber? I agree. I think I am too, but I'm also. So like, if I was going to do some Dommer shit, I would do it how Dommer does. Not with, like, gay people and stuff.

I'm just saying, like, in a under, like, I would just do it and not get caught. Okay, so. Not tell anyone. Gay people are safe. Straits are the ones that you would eat. And I would murder him like, straight face. Like, no. Like, how would you boil?

That's where I am on the. Would you eat them like Dahmer did? Oh, I ain't doing that weird shit. I just like, you're just going to murder none of the weird shit just murdering. Yeah, because I think everyone wants to experience that once in their life, right? I just have those. He's being sarcastic, Matt's laughing. Yesterday I was on my balcony and I just literally like was on my phone on Twitter.

I know Bose once that just. Then a thought just came in the back of my mind. I looked over my balcony and said my phone. I'm like, I thought to my stuff like, the fuck is wrong. Yeah, I don't know like what intrusive thoughts I can legally say. I was like, I'll throw this bitch right now. I don't know why the fucking. I don't know why I came over my head.

I just literally was like on my hat, my back turn. And look, though. Now, did you think? I'm going to press record before I do, though. I used to have vivid dreams of sniping people. I was like thinking if I threw it and then a car drove and it didn't break, the phone didn't break. It just landed on top of the car and shit. What's it called when you can control your dreams?

Lucid dreams. Lucid dreams. I just had lucid dreams of like sniping people. And, and like, obviously, obviously I want to do that in real life. This is not a safe place for you to have these conversations. I think everyone. You had lucid dreams of sniping people, so you controlled it. Yeah.

But there were bad people. You got to say that they were like bad people. Yeah, they're really bad people. I got to say where I was doing it. Yeah, I think everyone has those thoughts. Besides maybe Seth. No, not timeswears. I don't even know where I was.

I don't even know where I was. I was in. Besides me, I definitely have weird thoughts. I just don't have thoughts of sniping people. And if he had them, he wouldn't verbalize them. Like, I know Hax has... No, wait, what? Me, what? Like, I can imagine Hax's fantasy.

Okay. I can imagine Hex's fantasy just hitting, like, just beating someone until they die. I don't know, no. What about him? What do you think is... Hold on, hold on. Let's go through this. Just hit someone with a headshot.

Like, I thought all this through. With the extendo? What do I want to do? Yeah, what's his fantasy? I don't think you do. You're not on that spectrum. We're... On what spectrum?

Of wanting to harm people? It's just a spectrum of thought processes. Yeah, everybody has intrusive thoughts. I'm thinking about like dogs. Yeah, what intrusive thoughts? Happy shit. His dreams are like those Bart Simpson's, meo, meow, meow.

It's just like a bunch of cat, just cat clocks. Just cat clocks. You know those cat clocks that are like, meow, meow, meow. It's just like that felt like in a psych, in a psychedelic, almost collidious. scope look of just

yeah then he wakes up like content scene dream today it's not but I do I do I do know that if I fall like if I wake up at four

and I'm just like that was not enough sleep I got to force myself to go down like my brain is going to be going a thousand miles an hour for about 15 minutes until I like start to control myself and then when I go to sleep from 4.30 to the time that I have to get up like there is a dream that happened

that is going to be lucid like the one that I tell you about the hawk. Long story short, even the guy in my dream had a fucking dope-ass line. Right? When I went to grab the hawk and the hawk like clawed me because it was a tiny hawk and I was trying to save it from the bigger hawk.

And then the guy that was the handler of that hawk in my dream, mind you says, better grab a whole of that thing before it becomes dinner. How do you remember that? That's like so... He's like... He's like four dreams.

He just made that line up. No, no, no. I literally did make that line up because it happened in my dream. There's so many dreams that I have in which there's a twist to it and I'm like, oh my God, it's sort of like a recall from like the beginning of the dream when I'm like, oh my God, this is a twist. Like that actually happens in my fucking brain.

You have a crazy memory because I'll like, I'll have a dream and I'll wake up like have to like really think about it. And then if I stop thinking about it, it's gone. Yeah. Like instantly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, look at July 6th, 2023.

Oh, you write it down. I was back in Juarez. Was in a dusty gravel parking lot throwing pebbles and rocks back and forth with some kid. After I won the game, I ran across the street into a cathedral. In it, I went to wash my hands and all the bathrooms were occupied. When I walked inside, somebody that I know says, Nahed or my uncle Hector, that's what it says here. Nahed is my business partner from here or my uncle Hector, I know that is, asked me how I'd been. There was a black dude getting a perm and I washed my hands.

as I finished watching my dirty hands from throwing pebbles and was about to walk out, syndicate walks in. I felt tension because none of these people have ever been in my blah, blah, blah, blah. Dude, it goes on and on and on and on and on and on. Do you do that? How often did you do this?

Every time where I feel like I need to dissect it. Like with that just one night? Yeah. This is when I, yeah, because look, April 23rd was in a post-apocalyptic scenario looking for weapons. Couldn't find any ammo for my sniper. What the fuck? There was a cottage.

by the outskirts of the city that my dad told me to build up to enjoy the sunsets. So in this dream, my dad said, yo, go to that part of the city and build a house there so you can enjoy the sunsets. Yeah, I guess I believe you. I pick up Matthews. Oh, Matthews and Smokes came out of the sides. Wait, Matthews? Whose Matthew was rolling? I don't know which Matthew.

How often do you guys have dreams where you know people in it? Oh, dude, I don't even. I just don't remember. All the time. In all my dreams, it's like people I don't know. Yeah, not all the time. I only have like four dreams. I remember all the time.

But is it true the people in your dreams are people you've seen before? That's what people say. I don't believe it. Yeah. It has to be. I feel like your brain can just make up a person. That's who? Just spawn one in.

You guys never had a dream where you're like driving a motorcycle? Like I don't know. Like I had a dream where I was on a motorcycle. And it just went out of control. I hit the rail, start falling towards the water as soon as I get. Wake up. Oh yeah. Like falling dreams?

that happens all the time. That happens all the time. You wake up. Whenever your body thinks that you're about to die, like, it wakes you up. Yeah. It's since the jolt to your body. Yeah.

So, like, that's, every time you're like about to die in a dream, you wake up. But what if that was actually your life and you actually did die and then you just woke up into a different life? And this is it. I just don't know why a car would take off

after going up a hill and then just go high as fuck and then let me down. It happens all the fucking time. And every time that is happening, I tell myself, how the fuck did I get into this position? I'm like,

I'm going to die like this, because I've had dreams like this before, is what I think. You have like a most... Recurring dream? Yeah. No, but I have recurrent places. Every single time is a recurrent place. Waraz.

Majority of the time, yeah. Majority of the time is... And you haven't been back there since when. It's like, dude, my grandma died when Jude and I first started dating in 2001, so 20 plus years. And even still now, most of your dreams. Yeah, and even before that, like it had... Before that, it had been...

I was 21, so before that it had been... almost nine years that I've been back. I haven't been back to Juarez since my grandmother died, 2001. Is it like different shit every time? Different scenarios, but it's like almost the same neighborhood. Same map.

How about that? Different areas of the map. Like I have a reoccurring one, but it's like, it's so short and it's so weird. Recurring? Yeah. Reoccurring makes more sense

to me as English being my second language. It makes, because it's occurring again. Reoccurring. But it's recurring. Really? Well, it's just like me. I'm in like a basement and I'm going to like run up the stairs

and I'm running super slow and this like grandma is behind me like chasing me and then I like try to get around the post to start going up the steps and then like right when I get around the post the grandma grabs me and I'm going so slow and she tags me you know and then I wake up but it's just like I've had that dream

you've never gotten taken back down there and see what she does I've I've I just I wake up you better hope you wake up when she grabs you I wake up every single time and it's just like that's my

reoccurring dreams. I don't even know. It makes no fucking sense. But it's always your grandma? Mine was... Not my grandma or just a grandma. Oh, okay, that's scary. My reoccurring one happened until I threw up and then they never... Excuse me? You know, I remember I told you about that?

Uh-uh. So I used to... When I was a kid, I used to... I had a dream that I was chasing someone. Right? I'm literally... Brick wall, alley, dirt, grass. There's a random guy sitting on the corner. I'm chasing this kid into the alley. We're running. This guy, like, goes to hand me a cup. I look in it, bro, and it was like, I don't even know what the fuck was in there.

It looked like body part, like throw-up. It was the most nasty shit. Just vile. And I woke up right there, and every time I used to think about that dream, I would literally get nauseous. Really? And then one time at my birthday party, I thought about it while I was eating pizza, threw up.

Never had it again. Never again. It went away. I'm like, are you weirded out by that stuff in your life? I could just think about it all. I could think about it all the time. But if you saw, like, body parts in real life, would you, does that make you queasy?

I think because of... You saw it in a dream and it did, though? It was like, well, it was in that cup, I don't know. She was like body parts, throw up, I just looked in it. You're saying if you saw body parts in real life, you wouldn't be queasy?

Like a random, like, thought off leg just laying there? Yeah. I would just be like, what the fuck? I'd be like, holy shit. I don't know. Desensitized that.

I mean, that's easy to say until it actually happens. If I saw a fucking leg, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, probably, I might not throw up here. I only have sympathy for like animals,

babies, old people. Because like, I think a war. Not sympathy, like, to where I'd be like, oh, man, that's fuck. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think of war and it's like, I don't know, it's like, I can't even comprehend it.

Because we're like so safe over here. But imagine actually going to fucking war, seeing like, people beside you get their fucking head, That's a reality man. Someone's leg gets blown up. Yeah, that's like fingers. Like it's loud as fuck.

Your ears are ringing. His blood's pouring out of his leg. Like, that stuff actually exists. Crapnel. And it's fucking insane. Blinding people. And then like the whole like PTSD thing, like God. Like that shit.

That shit's fucking insane. It gives me chills thinking about it. It actually exists. No, it's a real thing. That's like, that's real as it fucking gets. The trauma that's like I have friends who have served and have that shit has happened to him in front of them They scarred him for life. It will never be the same. Yeah Um, my and you shouldn't be the same after something that traumatic

I think my grandmother's ex-white or husband or something I forget Father something like that but he apparently like killed a few people like he was just crazy like he would been to jail and all that And they used to say that he used to get up like every like 30 seconds and go wash his hands like Just on some nuts. Mm-hmm randomly he just get up go out she's got blood leaking off his hands like in his well in his mind that's what it fucking does to you yeah mentally i mean think about the ticks that you have now like these are all these are all traumatic you know jude obviously who reads that that she she does but the reason she thinks that the reason that i am so i am hard to forgive i am hard to forgive

someone for something that and so me is because i remember everything so vividly that no matter how much time passes, I can still remember the conversation, how it made me feel in that moment, the things that they said that made me feel a certain way, so my brain can't allow me to forgive somebody when they've wronged me in a sense. Because it's that fresh to me. But yeah, that's, that is, the thing about, according to her, I'm not an expert and if I'm, if somebody out there is an expert and can correct us in the comments, please do. But like, the thing from what I understand, from what I've also read to that she sent me, like the things about

being on the spectrum or not, like some people see some of these these situations that people are in mentally with being on the spectrum autism, etc. is that society has seen that as a weakness for so long that sometimes we forget that, you know, it's also a superpower.

It's definitely, I think, worded poorly. Yeah. And categorized negatively. Yeah. Like it's I forget, I think it was like some lady who takes care of like autistic people or whatever and

they were asking her about a job like don't you like isn't it like maybe a little depressing or it's like you know because like they don't get to live the life everyone else lives and she was like I think they're happier than any of us like

so I don't know no it is it's a fact I've been like I don't know I just been thinking but there's like for instance like sports even like call duty a lot of shit I'm not like I don't enjoy playing the game I love the mental like I love the mental battle thinking about what they're going to do I don't care about shitting on them needing them jump shot

I love like just mentally like I love the mental warfare same with boxing that's why I love he's bigger yeah I just love the strategy behind it like I don't know even like I play cod and I'm thinking like I don't like I'm not getting no dope from just going off I get dope from from I think he's going to run here and I pre-nate it and I kill him on him. You get dope from that? Yeah. How smarted you? It's like playing fucking Valoran lately or if I predict what they're going to or yesterday I

made like seven IGL calls on offense and a road of like you four go here. I'm going to go here. I'm going to like smoke this off. So they're going to think we're pushing here. So they're going to start rotating. But you guys slow walk here. And I did that like seven times straight. It worked.

And like my teammates were hyping me up and shit. I was like, this is the fucking dope that I love. Like, just like outsmarting them every single round. Like, just instantly telling myself at the beginning of the round, like, I know they're going to go here. So I'm going to instantly just start slow walking with my knife out to get a quick flank. And it works. Like, yeah, that type of shit. Yeah.

It's just fucking mental warfare. Yeah. It's, again, not a negative thing. Like ADHD. So you really think you are on the spectrum? I didn't believe it. I didn't believe it until I didn't believe it until she started to be like, look. Do you do this?

I mean, yeah. Do you do this? I'm like, dude, I saw some crazy shit yesterday on TikTok and it was like something about ADHD. I get what it was. It was like,

it was. I can't remember what it was though. Were you told you were ADHD? Yeah. Or you can finish whatever you're saying. Yeah. Well, I was in the 80s. So internet didn't exist, right?

That was me grown up. I was born 1980. So in 1989, I was nine years old. In 1999, I was 19 years old. In 1995 was when it's like the internet. That's when the internet started to like

become a thing. and information start to become a thing. So all the negative stuff that you heard is just word of fucking mouth and people thinking negatively about everything always, right? Nobody ever thinks about the outcome of a positive scenario,

always the negative, which is fine to prepare for, but not. But the fact that, think about this, right? Like, how many times have you seen me working on a different project? Since you've known me, just think about the projects

that I've worked on, right? I'm never just fucking doing just one thing only and just working on one thing. Like, I'll get bored of this one thing and I can't just sit still, so I have to start a new fucking project and a new fucking project and a new fucking project. So,

It is, I'm definitely, I definitely have fucking something. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you're definitely different than most. Well, it started with the music, right? That's, that's your question. Because that's, that's like the hardest tell tell sign for me is that. And I started to open up to the possibility that I might be on the spectrum of some fucking level when Hitch brought it to my attention when he said it's like, I, damn, everyone's just calling you out.

Yeah, which is fine. I mean, I don't, I don't look, I'm, whatever. But Hitch is like, it is what it is. Hitch is like, I'm surprised that you let Mac Miller into your brain when I started to listen to Mac Miller or something like that, right? Because, or I think it was Drake because I don't, I listen to the same, as Jude, I listen to the same album and the same songs every single day. Yeah, you do.

For over fucking 15 years. Every single day in the car back, it's, uh, from, from content and shit. It's always cream, fucking Aesop Rock, uh, Woon Tang, Woon Teng, Bone thugs, um, what's the song that you like fucking or it's just always the same songs halfway crooks it's always the same it's always the same like songs

they know such things as halfway crooks they're scared to death and scared the look they shook see I have like a playlist of like a thousand songs and you only listen to like I only listen to bro I'm telling you there is something going on up here and I don't know what it is I feel like I hit that stage right now or probably a year ago the

only music I've listened to is like old Drake and house music Like, I haven't listened to anything new. And I don't know what it is. Maybe we're just getting fucking old. I don't know. Or if I'm just, like, losing inch,

like, when I listen to new rat, like, new little oozy coming out, new little oozy coming out, fucking, I don't care. See, I used to love. There is, I know for 100% fact, there's nothing that album is going to do for me. Really?

That's a sign of getting old. And I don't know. Welcome. I'm going to read something to the, I'm going to read something to the, to the, to the stream right now from our optic chat.

Okay. Yesterday at 6.41 p.m. one Anthony Zinney posts. Who's trying to go out Saturday for Halloween? Matt Craig says, I could dabble. I say, I might want a table question mark?

Silence. Silence. Nobody said anything. And I said, I'm not trying to go out. I was just a wedding. I'm like, I'm good for a bit.

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Something about just going to a club and like drinking and paying all that money to drink. It's disrespectful. It's like, it's like, I don't know. I would rather go to Page's. I would rather go to Page's apartment and have everyone meet there. I don't really like going to clubs. I used to love it. Yeah.

What's going to happen now is that you're going to invite people over for the game. And that's going to be such a good time from 3 o'clock to 9 p.m. And then it's going to be like, yo. Oh, fucking Friday at Sats. Yeah, no, it's Friday's a Seth. You know, like, well, this Sunday, I mean, this is the first Sunday that I've been home for football.

So I'm, yeah. That's fine. There will be tacos made by yours truly. Tacos. $20. Yeah, right. $50 of light beers could, could fund the whole operation.

Exactly. You brought tacos and meat over once. Huh? You brought tacos and meat over once. Yeah. One, two, three, five. Nobody, nobody ever asked after that. It's only been.

Beholding that shit hostage No, I swear to that If anybody said Yo Go to the backyard Cook you up a steak For you Yeah, I would

100% I love doing that I love to Any chance that I get to Feed people I'd like I love that I love cooking

That's my shit I love grilling Yeah Really I mean Maybe I need I'm fucking The thing about that

Is that As much as I like The food As much as like I like Like You just get a mini one Like foremost

Yeah I'm smoking Joe I want Some shit like Hector Like yours No mine's Mine's not

Yeah I probably got them shit's came built in the house. No, I bought a new one when I went in. Yeah, it like came with the credit. Mine's like built. There's a gas line that was already in it. Mine was built in, but I replaced it a second that I moved in. Oh, like a whole new one.

Yeah, the only thing I kept from the new house or from the old house or this house was the green egg, a big ass green egg. Have never used it. But, you know, like Matt always says is like everyone's just looking to be tipped. Like cooking for me is one of those things that I love being tipped for. Like I want to be known as the shit's far. Yeah. But not lying. Like if you enjoy.

you fucking like don't lie that in rolling joints I like getting if you're good at rolling joints yeah you have to get a compliment huh yeah it's just like anything anything that that you do with your hands like it's crafts because it's like you got to think it's coming from you like you created something from from something you don't what I'm saying like that's that's important to me I don't know why on that when I would roll blunts for the haggerstown folk yeah they're like damn this shit's nice hell yeah god damn right this shit's a pearl yeah that's right yeah that's a pearl yeah that's right Like, you're goddamn right.

Inside of a Tegers Town Brown. I miss that old weed. I'm tired of this new shit. It makes me go fucking psychotic. I always say that. 2011 sour. Like, I remember going to Jersey. I remember, yo, I remember going to Jersey in...

I wasn't smoking in 2008 or 2009. And I got Sour Diesel for the first time, and it was like the best high. And then... 90s weed, man. Then it just started, then by like 2013, the nickels. Yeah, I didn't smoke back around. 12 started getting a little strong, then started freaking out. Now it's just borderline psychotic.

Like, I need some, hey. Now I need some like Hagerstown Brown back. Literally when he moved, I think to 60-50. Some Hagerstown Brown. Like, I don't think I've ever seen Nick smoke. Maybe you were smoking mids and you just like. No, it is. Brown.

Brown wheat. Like that was, that worked for me. Brickweed. Seeds and stems. Seeds and stems. Seats and stems. Keep up the seeds and stems. Keep them in there.

Keep them in there. That dry ass work. Yeah. Now the shit just like freaks me out. I feel like it freaked me out one time and then ever since then it always freaks me out unless I'm in just like a super good mood. Mine is too strong for me now. I think I was,

you need to do less. In 1999, I'll take one hit. Maybe do half a hit. Oh, that one hit. See me, my MO, I used to come down the one hit or quitter. I'd come down or come up actually. I was in the basement.

I'd be like, oh, it's good. Y'all smoking. Hit it once. Be like, all right. Good to see. Yeah. That's what I would have to do in like the scuff house and shit too. It would be like they might be smoking.

I'll come down, take like one, two hits. And then like they sit there for like two hours just talking and shit. I'm like, I'm going right up to my bed or right up to my setup. People, I think that that's part of the issue. I'm not even starting to get the windows out. You didn't care of those spiders there? I mean, I used to enjoy it. Like I would smoke and.

like I would go to a party where like I'm just a fucking gaming nerd so it's like going to a party was like a big deal for me and I'm like I don't really know many people there but so I would go and I would sit there and I would just like roll up and smoke because like that would give me something to do and like sort of relax me more

now it's the complete opposite if I pull up to like an unfamiliar place there's no way I can smoke what especially like sit there smoke and like chill with people and hang out but it used to be my favorite thing to do would just be like hanging out with my good friends smoke. I used to wake up, smoke, listen to

Jay Dilla, hang on my computer, maybe play a little Halo 3, go back to sleep, wake up, smoke again, just like do the same shit. It was like such a good experience. I'm so fucking mad that it's fucked up for me now. Because like, sometimes I want to hate on weed just because I can't do it and enjoy it. I'm like, man, weed makes you tired and lazy. People just smoke all day. It's true. That's true for some people. It is, but not for everyone. It is true for a decent amount of people.

but I remember there were times where like I would smoke and it was just a good it's a feeling I haven't felt again and it was just like so nice to just smoke have a fucking plate of Chinese food and watch some battle rap or something like that's like top 10 moments of my life but you know what it is though it's like it's just allows and obviously this can be said about anything I'm just speaking from experience on my own terms like it like the the level of focus that I needed to get away from it's like it the the level of focus that I needed to get away from in order to accomplish something. Like I needed that extra dial up to, like, elevate me a little bit more so I can focus on this one fucking thing. Instead of, I'm watching a movie. And then I'm a sudden I'm like, oh, TikTok. And now I'm on this fucking rabbit hole. I'll fucking email.

Let me fucking edge of this show. I got to rewind this shit. Focus? Huh? It allows me to, yeah. Like, I get my, from an artist perspective, my work gets done quicker, more creative when I'm, when I'm doing that. Like if you go paint?

No, not if I go paint. If I go paint because it's like a second if you go spray paint you're doing it in public right like with people around you and someone's going to look at it and then you start thinking about it's man did I fuck up somebody going to like this shit not going to like this shit but when you're alone and you're doing your own thing like you have nobody else's voice in in your head for me but yeah do you like you for sure P K kid I remember him. The what famous I think it was a name is PK kid kid famous like East Coast tagger I always used to see him like in Jersey. T kid kid I think he's new I think I don't know I don't remember. Like a tagger. No, there's so many of them. I mean, New York's the mecca of it. No one was tagging in Mechanicsburg.

Yeah, what's y'all's favorite times of smoking? Like, never. Lately. Never? So I quit for about five years because I had the same experience with you, like that you did. Like, I oversmoked and I freaked up. But yeah, it was crazy. I remember it clear.

The clear is there. We were in front Taurus. We were in a fucking intrepid. I was on the front seat. I was smoking out of a, out of a alien head. It had a valve like a hookah valve so I didn't know how much money how much money how much smoke I was taking in I was shaking my head I'm like I'm not hitting it and we're in front it's Toreoreese's we're young we're like 19 we're about to get here everyone's getting haircuts right because there's a haircut place right with with Corey fades oh oh oh oh so Torezzi is right there and all of a sudden I'm like I'll sign I'm like I blew out the plume I'm like and they wouldn't stop coming out the white the white is smoke and I'm like oh and then

Lugi came on, I puked, and I'm like, oh, and then right there, my whole body just went, and I felt like my nerves were going into shock, and I just started freaking out. And then you stopped for a while? I stopped for like five years. And then little by little. Happens to everybody, even the Wiz Khalifahs of the game. I don't understand how they keep going, and they love, they can't, Lil Wayne, Wisn'Kalifa, Snoop Dogg, like, they don't fucking stop.

Yeah. I mean, their tolerance is probably crazy. So how about, you did, you recently did, well, not recently. but a couple of months ago you did Pine Park after dark where it's literally a podcast when you're smoking like, not stop. How did you like fare there? Because those boys don't play.

Shout out Eric Con and 10. I mean, I didn't like, they were like, they had other stuff but not like like bongs and shit. But I mean, it was cool. I mean, I was. Gone? I was there. But it was like, we were just chatting and talking.

So it was like time flew by. Do you feel like you got in a zone though? Like it was like a good like I could not do a podcast. I started warming up towards the end. Yeah. I could have kept going. I could have been a three hour on. It's only because I never,

it was my first, I knew, it was my first time meeting, Tim, but I already knew Eric, but like me and Eric aren't like you. So like I had to like, ease into them,

but it was cool. And I, yeah, I was smacked. There's only been a few podcasts where I felt like I could have kept going. Usually like when they're over. I mean,

we haven't even, we haven't even touched a single topic. It's like a real thing. It's like a rule. It's like, what, 35, 40 minutes?

I mean, we can keep, we can keep, When I did the podcast with the Botez sisters and Blake, shit was like an hour, 45 minutes long. And it's like, I think Matt was like, yo, we got to wrap this out. We got to go eat. But I was like, I think I was drunk.

Yeah. Like I started, we were drinking that day. And then a little before the podcast, I drank a little bit. So like by the podcast started, I was feeling it during the podcast. I was drinking. And I just like, my brain felt like on fire for the first time in like so long. Like usually inside my head, it's just like, yeah. But, like, finally I was like, but it's fucking working.

No, just like when they keep talking. Yeah. I can't drink anymore, period. Just like, I- Jenkins trash. I feel like an actual physical. I feel it physically. And I'm not talking about a hangover where, like, your body hurts.

Like, I feel my heart beating differently the following day. Yeah, no, it's, bro, there's something. I think I'm allergic. I think I'm allergic. I haven't, like, I want to figure it out. But every time I drink, I wake up with, like, these weird circle spots. But as I'm drinking,

like my first drink, as soon as it goes down and I start feeling like shit, like I feel dehydrated. I feel like all I want to do is just keep drinking water. Like I feel sluggish, slow. Start feeling like I'm about to throw up or something. I'm not going to actually throw up, but I feel like I'm on like the brink.

I don't think I fuck with alcohol no more. Yeah, I can drink. It's cool. Don't get my wrong, but I can drink. Repercussions or just. But I don't like, I don't like, the side effects of drinking, but if there's a day where it's like we're going to drink, I can, I can drink.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not going to be happy about it the next day. Yeah, I'd wait too many of those. It's like, it's getting to the point where it's like, I got to like think about it. I'm like, is it worth drinking right here? Like, it's like, do I want to, do I want to feel like that? Never woke up like, ah, after a day of drinking.

Like, my girl would do that sometimes. Like, she'll drink a lot. And then she'll just come home, pass out. She'd be like, I don't even remember going to sleep, but then she'll wake up, she'll just go downstairs, do her work. I'm just like, what the fuck? She'll wake up, puke, go do her work. Well, that's the reality of life, though.

If I drink, even just, not even a lot, I mean, every time I drink, it probably is a lot. But, like, my anxiety, the next, like, I wake up and just, like, every thought is negative, like, just every thought about any relationship with my girl, my parents, my optic, my stream, fucking, everything is negative. It's a fucking dark cloud. And like, I would say that's what I feel

most from the hangover. Like the anxiety part of it, it's like, I get that bad. It's not great, is it? Oh, fucking sucks. Yeah. Which is why I'm excited that I'm getting older because it's like, I used to be able to just drink and like I'd be perfectly fine. Now it's like, like I said, I have to

really like dial it in. It's like, do I want to go out Saturday and ruin my football Sunday and just be hung over all day. But then on football Sunday, you can wake up, crack two years, get it started again. And then that's how the cycle. And then that Monday starts, you got content. No, Monday's always, Monday's day off. That's how the cycle. That's how the cycle.

That's how the cycle. Oh, you're still feeling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It carries over. You'll still feel it. Bro, I'll feel it for a week. Oh, yeah. I still feel it from the wedding.

I still, like, feel like just off. Yeah. Because we, I mean, obviously a wedding. We were drinking. Tequila shots, fucking. I mean Were people turning up? Yeah

It's a wedding It's a wedding I mean They were like I would say 60% of the wedding Were her and his friends So it's like all like

20 year olds Like They're drinking And then like The other 40% is like Parents other You know parents Just guests that are there

That are a little bit older And I was like teetering on I was like in between The old and the young Yeah So I always wake up early when I drink too I can never sleep in I hate that

I can't hate drinking I fucking hate drinking though I like everyone does it's like oh Hector's drinking it's like we're getting drunk down Hector's drinking you know At events when I first joined Optic we'd go to the event Thursday and we just know like we're drinking though let's meet at the hotel bar and Hacks is drinking and then

The night just gets started, then Friday comes. Recovery day. Everyone's fucking hungover. Yeah, recovery day. You guys are hung over. We're fucking... Optic has to play at 12. We're gaming.

Yeah. Optic has to play at 12. None of us in the fucking. None of us are there supporting. Go with supporting. At our hotel until 5 p.m. Nobody cared about Friday anyway. Yeah, look, if you guys have some, you in the chat, I want to hear about your dreams.

If you have lucid dreams or not, whether you drink or don't drink, you know, be interactive, man. Let us know. The most, actually, the most recent time I got fucked up, I was, I'll drink it. I told the story in the, uh, Flycast and bro, I'm out, I went to dinner or whatever,

we're drinking there, and then we go to this little spot, drinking there. Dude, I'm taking shots and shots and I'm, you know, I mean, we're at some bar.

I'm just like, $5 drinks. I'm just, you want to, I'm that guy. I feel like, bro, I fucking,

and then some random guys come up to the person I was with, they're like, hey, da-da. I'm like, these motherfuckers are going to try to spike my drink or something.

They're going to be playing. And I can tell, bro, everything I love, I took a shot from them and not even 25 minutes later, I was getting woken up with flashlights. No. Swear to God, this was like two months ago. That was your instincts, man. I went out, went home. I'm throwing up out of her car, like as they're riding. I just, uh.

Out of whose car? I was with it. And then, um, bro, I fucking don't even remember how I went through my lobby, got upstairs. I could imagine what the front desk person was thinking. I had throw up on me. They'd probably see it all the time. They're probably like, who the The front lady

Concierge She never mentioned everything to me Did you get up by yourself? Did you? Man, it was fucked You don't remember, did you? I was like, yo, let me get my car Y'all better not be stealing shit

She said boy ain't nobody fucking stealing shit I was wilding I was gonna try to take money off my shit It was cool though Yeah I do want to talk about Real quick Saudi

Yeah, Saudi The Saudi, the Crown Prince announces the Eastports World Cup What the fuck He replaced 45 million dollar gamers eight I actually am doing a sponsored segment with these fine folks. And yeah, this shit, from what I'm hearing, it's going to be crazy. And I'm trying to play in it.

It's next summer. It's summer 2020. Oh, dude. What they're trying to do? What is it, though? It's like a multi-event or multi-game event, and it's like just the e-sports World Cup. But the prize pool is supposed to be like. Insane?

Yum, yum, yum, yum, nam, nam. Game of me. I'm like, yo, I know y'all, you know, we're doing the sponsor thing where you were to do some content together for it. Why can't one of these motherfuckers pop in my stream? Well, first of all, because you're saying the word motherfucker. Why can't one of these jets? I got to play in this. Bro, this, he's the most famous out of all, all of them.

I always see his face everywhere. He's got, he's got a kind face, like willing to help face. Like, can we go out there, kick out with them, talk biz? Like, bring us through. I mean, listen, we will be, we can't drink or do any bad stuff over there, right? because we got to respect their culture. I'm there for it. But yeah, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm, send,

send the, the group over there. All of Optic will show up if, if, if, if, uh, first class is paid for, and so is, uh, it's, it's, it's the hotels. 45 million was the last one. And he's, he's replacing that with something. Well, no, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, 45 minutes up for grabs, but it's like segmented out. Like, they'll do Rocket League has 10 million or blah, blah, blah,

from what I understand. I might be wrong. Somebody in the chat is way smarter than me and more informed. Do we leave her. Are they going to have Cod there? Yeah. They're going to have Call of Duty there? I don't know the specific game list right now.

That'd be cool. We're just like promoting the event. We don't like have the, it's next summer. So we don't have like all the information. I'd be down to go. But yeah, this shit, if it's like everything that I'm hearing, it's like, it's just crazy. It's crazy.

Yeah, that's, um, The biggest price pool ever is like what they're spending it. Like it's, and the last one was 45 mil. And they're saying it's going to be the biggest price. Is it almost going to be like an MLG to where like they got here. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes. You'd come out of retirement for that, wouldn't you?

Yeah. Have to. Yeah. Absolutely. Imagine winning and the prize is like 15 mil for first. No, you're thinking about the wrong way. Imagine coming in eighth place and your price. 1.3.

Yeah, like what? I'm still happy. Oh, here we go. I'd be pissed. July 6th, 4-9, 2 million, 1 million, 3 million for FIFA, PubG 3.1, Rainbow 6-2, Dota 15. Wow. Now, is that 15 base?

And then they add the skins to that, or what? August 3 to 6 StarCraft remastered. I've never watched Dota in my life. I mean, dude. I did when we played in it. Rocket League. PubG Mobile. 3.1 million

yeah there's some money waiting announcement soon announcement soon oh yeah because that's not the full amount gamers eight revealed that 5 million will be handed out to the 8 best performing esports organization

at the festival so probably if you place you have two people from the org that place in the top 8 on two different games create whatever and then they split that what I will say what I will say

what I will say say to and I'm sure that they have experts out there. Please do a little bit of reason. If somebody comes to these people and they said, hey, I'm an esports expert. Don't fucking believe them until you check it. Don't believe them. Oh, yeah.

Don't. Don't take. I might have to put on a fake mustache and go out there and get the. Hey, I'm an esports expert. I'm looking for it. Check credentials. Do not listen to them. These thirsty, thirsty, thirsty industry scavengers, man.

it's crazy well this is this is last year so next year probably a different game list but yeah it's it's absolutely insane yeah

and yeah it is sponsored but it's still insane this is an insane insane format and I just I am curious to see what the prize pool is going to be

because this one was 45 they said this one's going to be the biggest so it's like how long is PubG 10 day tournament PubG's huge Like PubG mobile

Was crazy to me Overseasing and stuff Isn't PubG like massive? Yeah What are they playing PubG mobile On their phone? I have no idea

Or like iPads Seth placed on an iPad No I don't Remember that remember when we had a mobile Yeah Was it on an iPad? No it was Call of Duty mobile He played on an iPad

I literally played with a fucking iPad I played two days of Call of Duty mobile Two nights Not even two days Before the turn of it Yeah to prep for content To compete against people Who never played it

Yeah It fucks this look like I like it I'm coming in I'm doing my thing That's very cool Well you know Again that's that's super cool of them

To keep it E-sports right now As I said Like anytime anytime that people Says that e-sports sucks Just look at what just happened At I am Australia Did you see the fucking crowd there

It was insane Matt You can bring it up It was a CS2 Yeah what was it I am Was it I am Yeah it's phase versus It was Evo geniuses

No complexity Complexity yeah Elyge Yeah, damn, phase one, CS2 Dude, can the new cod come out, dude? I'm so fucking bored. Well, this is my issue, right? This is my issue.

Like, it, next year we only had, is that an ounce to you? How many majors we have next year? No, definitely not. So, like, we, like, where, when does it start? Apparently January, does that? I don't want to say anything because I don't know what's been. I don't know. I don't know.

I heard it was January. Yeah, it usually starts like, it's either December or January. It can't be. it's got to be one of the two. Yeah. If they start later than that, the league is too short, like it has to be one of the two.

So, yeah, teams are going to be scrimmed. We were talking about it. Teams are going to be scribven. We were talking about it. Damn. Look at this. Look at this.

That's a fucking Taylor Swift concert. I don't know about that. But, yes. I mean, if you think about it, like, look at that crowd.

Like, those aren't, those aren't, like, those are real crowds, man. Like, it's,

it's not about e-sports as, and the interest in it, But, you know, is Faze now considered the most winningest counterstrike team in the world ever, in the history of CounterStrike? I don't know, but they have to be up there. They have to be up there, right? Yeah. I feel like they've been, they've been frying for a minute. Yeah.

Yeah, I actually, I caught, actually I didn't catch this because this started at like 2 a.m. our time. So I was like, I was like in bed and I saw this starting up. I was like, wait, what the fuck? I just saw on Twitter they won. See, when I look at this, I'm like, man, I'm looking for an optic logo. I'm like, man. I'm going to look at crowds and I'll see a green wall member in there. And then look up there.

It doesn't still, yeah. That's continuous all the way to fuck up there. Is CS2 huge in Australia? He sees, it's everywhere. CS2 right now. Is it like least popular in North America? I don't know if it's least popular. Not least popular, but like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Look at this thing. Look at this thing. Look at this thing. If you go to like the steam charts of like players that are, actively playing, CS has like a million right now, like concurrent, like playing at all times. Not consuming

and watching. I don't want to play it. Dude, how wish, I mean, I'm good. I don't want, I don't need any addictive games in my life right now. And I'm not going to talk about the B word followed by a year. Yeah, how many are playing? Playing an hour ago, 933,000. Damn, what does Halo got? Fucking

3K. I'm a guess 20 for Halo. 20,000? 20,000 or 20? I'm a guess 8K. Seven. Four. Four thousand five hundred. We're back, though.

Yeah. Right? I mean, we were back at the... It's probably like a hundred, maybe a hundred of those people playing competitive. Now look up... No, I think competitive is like the only thing. It might be the most popular.

Yeah. It has to be. Can you look up Call of Duty multiplayer? Specifically? Yeah, this is team. They're going to show those numbers. What about VATTS? Ballant, my game. This is only on Steam, right?

Oh, okay. That's not bad. If only on Steam, 71? Yeah. That's pretty good. Not great. Yeah, but only Steam? There's like console.

What's Valoran at? There's probably a lot of people. Name one year in which Call of Duty as a whole, community and developers have ever really sat down and said, all right, this year we're going to make Call of Dude the biggest has ever been

hand in hand. Let's fucking commit to promoting it and doing all. the right things. Name one year where we've ever done that. And if you think about the trajectory that Colla Duty had when it was just like endemics, right? There's MLG Game Battles Day. Like if you think about if the support would have been there from the beginning, like think about how much further along we would have been as far as an ESPort. I'll put it to you like this. If there was four more optic phases in Call of Duty, as it wasn't an old day, it'd be a different.

It'd be a different story. Oh, yeah, 100%. What do you mean? Like if there's like if there's No other org ever did the content or anything. Say it again? No other org ever, like, really stepped up to the plate type shit. Yeah. Content-wise, at least. But imagine, man, we could have, we would have been Titans of the end. I mean, we are.

I mean, at the end of the day, the game's got to be good. Even with this new cod coming out, like, it's going to, I bet the numbers are going to be fucking massive the first. Jesus. Month and a half. Baller has 23 million. Where, where? Average monthly players. God, damn.

Yeah. How many concurrent does it have? But like this new cod's going to come out. It's going to pop off. But like after, I mean, I'm not praying for its downfall. Like after what six weeks? Well, we can't give up now. We cannot give up now.

It's not going to have ranked. They're going to wait to bring that in. Don't put that evil out there. What if this is a year, man? What if this is the year? What if this is the year? The cod release is like, I don't like it. but it actually is kind of nice from a content perspective.

Because like the game releases, well, this is the first year that I'm going. It works perfectly for Seth. This is the first game that I'm going in obviously is just strictly content. So it's like the first month of the game is like camos, pubs, tournaments, shit like that. Wagers. And then Warzone drops like a month into the game's life cycle. So like you play multiplayer, you like grind it, grind it, grind it, and then you start getting like a little bit bored of it. And then boom, war zone drops.

And then you can play Warzone for a couple months. it's good and then play it play it play it cdl drops and then you know a little bit after that then rank drops so it's like there's always something to like kind of look forward to but like yeah you would want it all at the start like i just remember it is like kind of i mean i guess they they do have it they had they have their strategy and i'd say it kind of works but at the end of the day it's just going to be if the game's good or not and whether people want to keep playing based off the beta people got sick of those three maps real quick well I mean, that's to be expected because it's a beta.

And people always get sick of the beta, even if it's a new map. I bet you if they would have done the same thing. They would have done tiers. Like, we're going to let 100,000 people play the beta, and then we're going to add another 50. And you have, like, this element of people are like waiting to get in, waiting to get in, and they finally get in. Like, they're going to enjoy those maps. I personally didn't get sick of them at all. I got, I didn't either.

People would be playing 14 hours a day. Sick of the maps. I got sick of it after like five hours. Yeah. Yeah, probably five hours. But it's the same modes that we were playing, though, also, right? Like once you had S&D and all that, like, I don't think I could ever get sick of S&D. I, for one, think, and you guys know I'm a fucking huge critic of Call of Duty, not because I want to be critical,

but because I wanted to improve because it's the game that I love most and whatever. But I will say that this game, unlike the one before and the one before, like, I really had a really good time playing. Like, once I got used to the guns and once I found, like, one that I could get used to, like, that's when I really started to have fun and I didn't want. I was thinking about playing it when I wasn't playing it. It's the best way that I can describe it. That's when you know. Yeah.

Yeah, when you're addicted and shit? That's like, that's where I'm at with Valor. Did you play the PC beta or were we gone? No, we were in Seattle. Yeah.

Which honestly, I'm pretty, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out because I was a little bit worried. I was like, are people even going to want to watch like us at Seattle? Because like, other people are playing the beta? But like after,

after weekend one, everyone was like already. like kind of done watching the beta, which makes sense. People that care about it have like a good one-day threshold of playing and seeing what it's like and then... Exactly. Get on it once or twice and during the day. Well, after one, I'm excited to play with my boys again.

I need the new cod because right now I don't know what the fuck to play. Every day I wake up and I'm like, what am I going to do? May I suggest something to watch instead of play? What would... Well, I need to stream. Ah. I was going to say, what? What would you play if you weren't streaming?

If I wasn't streaming? Tarkey. No, not Tarkey. Warcraft. Warcraft. Firecraft. I might play like single player games, but like they just don't do good enough on stream. No, no, you're not streaming.

You're just playing. Well, yeah, but I'd probably play like single player games. Like what? The new Spider-Man that just came out. That looked dope. Imagine Seth and his at a set of. Bioshock. No stream on.

He's just in there. Oh, a son of fucking. A bowl of Totinos gets to the players and he's like, oh shit, dips it in ranch, dips it in barbecue, boom. I love that shit. Huh? I love playing games. Yeah. Yeah. Be just chilling. I wish I could.

I almost. I almost. I doubt, so I downloaded it in the last couple of days, I downloaded, uh, the latest one is Modern War for 2, right? The latest call is Monofer 2? This one, yeah. Yeah. So I was playing, I was playing that just free for all, just by myself, like, listening to, you know, a mop-dee fucking mixtape on, on

on YouTube and I was just like zoning out, just fucking playing, playing, playing, playing, playing. But that's it. So I am looking forward to this new one. End a story. We'll see. We'll see if they clutch. I fucking hope so, man.

Let's call it a day, man. What do you think? Do you want to end it on your favorite memories from the hex quarters? We'll start with you. What's your favorite memory from the hex quarters? My favorite memory from the hex quarters. Probably just like getting out of rehab and then come in here and just having like it was like very uncomfortable for me to like come out of rehab and just like live life

normally like because I was cooped up in my apartment for fucking nine months just cracked out of my mind. I haven't cooped. So like to get out and like come here and it was like a safe space to like I didn't want to be at my apartment. My apartment was like dreadful. It was like bad vibes. I like didn't want to be in there.

So I'd come here and I was I would be here like eight, nine hours a day. It felt like I'd come like. Like I'd come here, maybe like stream or that or whatever. I think I was set up over here. I'd play Minecraft. We got that Minecraft going for a little bit. And yeah, it was just like a good time. I would just go outside, smoke with form or something.

When you got out of rehab, did you think? I'm like, man, what if I don't like these people? No, I don't think that at all. What about you? Favorite memory? Favorite memory from the hex quarters? This dude came in and out. Yeah, I was just here for business.

What about you? When you broke 100? 100 what? Thousand, concurrence. Was that here? Yeah, it was all the way at the end. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that was cool. What was that for? Black Ops 4. The launch, what was it, the day one tournament? 2K, yeah. I don't know, probably just the Optic Chicago year overall. Getting breakfast with the boys coming here, playing a match. getting three-piece by Lamar leaving pissed my favorite part about it was mine was coming to do the

podcast I was like good times every time yeah I think for me was the uh the invention of the pre-show or like the what the pre-show was actually you know just I don't know man I don't think I have like one specific one that stands out I have I mean I'm emotionally attached to it for many different reasons but Yeah, like it's, it's in 30 days we're out of here, I think. What's today? The 20th? 25th, yeah. I probably won't ever see it again if, if today's the last content day.

Today's the last content day here, Matt, or do we have like more like this week? Say my, say my goodbye. What is it? Oh, we're probably going to do a tournament here, he says. What? Just making shit up. Wait. Wait, are we doing the tournament you're supposed to do this weekend?

The hottest hot take. Roger said, did you hear it? Roger said the hex quarters was more influential than the scuff house in 60-50. Who said that? Roger. Well, Roger wasn't there, so.

Wait, but why? Do you want to defend your point? You can get on the mic. Get on the mic. It's impossible. 60-50 and one, two, three, five. Is literally the reason why everyone's in this room right now.

I think that I corrected myself when, well, he said, this is the hottest of hot. I said, I said this is going to be a really hot take. I said, but I don't think influential is the right word. I just think the hex quarters itself, I think, without it, Optic probably would have died probably two, three years ago. And with, like, Optic as it stands right now would not be what it is without this place.

So I think because of that and kind of looking at all, like, especially like the early days, like you streaming over there, getting like 110,000 viewers after like Ninja host you, like those early days when we had like those plans. The ninja. You had like 60-70 in that first tournament, and then he hosted, and it brought you up a little more. I had 160,000. I remember, like, a lot of those early members, and you're right.

I wasn't a part of, like, the scuff house, right? And those are what, also without those that wouldn't be where it's at. But I don't know. I just think Optic probably wouldn't be here if we didn't have the X-Quarers. Well, I don't take away that this place was meaningful. Meaningful and legendary in itself. Nothing would have been alive to die if 60-50 didn't happen. Roger reiterated a few times.

This is a hot topic. But I forget where I saw. I don't know if it was like a Twitter clip or what. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, but I think they posted on Twitter. What do you say? What do you say? Huh?

Wait, what do you say? That's what he said. Oh, yeah. Highest take. I saw like a Twitter clip from Optic. Maybe because we were a part of all three. Like we obviously have like different takes. but this one definitely was like an important fucking.

Oh yeah, hell yeah. Out of the three? 60-50. Without a question. In 60-50, we did something that no one else had done up until that point. There have been gamer houses, but not content houses the way that we fucking turned them up. And then I felt like, I feel like one, two, three, five was like, oh. I blew it up there.

Show ass up. I feel like the scuff house was like, oh, we can make this bigger and better and more people involved. and like do these competitions in the back. Go to certain places for videos. Yeah. And I don't know. Just sort of. I don't think anything will be 1235.

Okay. Look. For me? For me? I look at it from like a 50. But like that house was grody. Let's not, let's not kid ourselves.

The house was fucking disgusting. Yeah. But I shared a twin bed. I'm not shared a twin bed, but I was me and crim. Bunk bedding. The twin beds and the master bedroom. That house was disgusting.

makes it more. That house was good, man. The house was good. The house was good. 1235, obviously, smooth competition, vision. Like, all of... We actually had space to, like, live. At 60-50, like, it felt like you were just always within, like, this close of somebody else. Yeah. And it was like... What do you guys think? You never had, like, private space. What are you guys in the chat thing? Put it down below. Let us know. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you so much to Rocket Money and Center for sponsoring this podcast. We're going to continue to our day of filming all this stuff. We'll see you guys.

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