OpTic Podcast - THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE RANKED PLAY | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 159

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

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Once the dark, once it goes black, brother, it's over. There's no coming back. And that's just the reality of it. That's just the reality. Real shit. It is the reality, but I hate the reality of it. Yeah, enjoy the time while you're here, man. Welcome back to another episode of the Optic Podcast, episode 159.

Thank God we're in these chairs because I'm all hemmed up again. No, these are great. These are, I love these chairs. Oh, it's nice. I feel like I've been sitting in it a little too much. I know you guys brought these seats. Are you guys tired of it? I mean, I'm not tired of the chair, but like this area a little bit.

You're like, damn. My eyes are sore areas for seats for this. You were like, oh, it's a specific angle. How's the, how's the stream's been going? I haven't like, I've been wanting to show up, but dog that drive on the weekend. I'm like, what you mean? It's, uh, I would like to be the fourth person at one point. Oh, I get what you mean.

I thought you meant like the morning streams with me and Zen. I'm like, what you mean? Just turn. No, no, no, no. Morning shoes would be great. No, the watch party. Oh. I mean, watch party, like, it's always a good in front of me.

We're simply, to its core, it's just friends watching Cod, bullshitting and bantering. And, like, obviously we lock in for certain matches and analyze it a bit more. But, I mean, it's as good as it gets. I mean, I'll be lying if I said the move doesn't definitely change it a bit, right? Just because I think the hype around the league in general and Call of Duty is, sort of fall in a bit. Like, I feel like last year we had this rising tide where it was just like viewership and record breaking and we have these amazing watch parties.

And it was just, there was so much positivity and hype around it. And I feel like the move kind of took some of that away. But we have the major coming up. So I'm excited to see how the major goes. Looks, looking forward to being in Boston, obviously. Only in Call of Duty could we have the best viewership of all time playing the worst game of all time. Yeah.

And then the next day, the next year, we get a good game. That's what's... It flips on its head. That's fucking crazy. Like, it's... Because there's no what, like, imagine... I guess there's no way to know what viewership would or could be for the majors or for the regular matches.

Run a new game where I actually do think last year had some underrated maps. Like after playing some of these maps, I do think we need some more maps to come in. Oh, yeah. Obviously, like the nostalgic... court, I think, can only last so long. But, yeah, no, last year's game, we didn't have dead silence, like red dots. Like, these are things that you need in Call of Duty, and we have them back, and it's definitely tough. I mean, still have a lot of people showing up, though. It's not like, you know, like yesterday we had 50,000 for the optic match, so people are still hype. I just

think the discoverability and the, and the access, like, I still think when people think esports and they're looking for an esports event to watch, they go to Twitch. So, like, even me, for example, if I'm on Twitch and I see there's a random esport, like I'll click on Dode. I have no idea what's going on, but I'll click on it and see what's going on, right? Just because you see, oh my God, a million-dollar tournament. But, nonetheless, it's still been fun. We have the giveaways going. People are still hype around it. We're making the best of the situation. And, I mean, I'm just excited for Boston. Oh, dude. I'm excited for you guys. I won't be able to make it, but you're going to,

both? I mean, three degrees, bro. I know. No, no, no, it's 50. It's 40 to 50 all week. Oh, really? Yeah, it's like 40, 50 degrees all week. Oh, that's, that's so. It's gonna be beautiful.

That's, I mean, not a night. You don't go out. What are we going to do outside of the night anyway? We're going to dinner and to an Uber to the hotel. Is it? Let's forget rowdy. I'm not paying shit. A dime.

Dude, going last year was crazy. It was so cold. No, last year was nuts. The wind chill. Oh, yeah, you guys didn't make it out. No, I was, I was. Of course you were there, duh. Holy shit.

Oh, so you're... No, no, no, because it was... This is major one. Damn. That was when it was just... No. Seth and Hex on the watch ready? That was major two.

Major two? I retired February 5th. Oh, so you're coming up? Yeah. The one year? The one year anniversary. It's weird to think about that, like that. You're going to turn on the stream.

Shed a few tears. Guys, a five gift it would make me feel... Yeah, he does that shit. What? He's gonna start crying. Oh, on February 5th? He always cries. Oh no, I'm beyond crazy year.

Oh wow, I can't even stream that day. I'll be with Roger and Matt Craig at an undisclosed, undisclosed location. Really? We were taking a content trip. That's that day. I want to go. That's that day. You can come.

Is that great? I like the direction our videos are going. Dude, the silent library video was so sick and then the video that we shot hasn't come out yet. That shit was sick. That video is going to be incredible. Yeah.

I like the direction of our... We've got to think of some. big, big ass ideas like that. So like what you guys are, what you're flying out to do? Yeah, you should go, Bose. That shit would be sick. Come through. You're like, yeah.

I mean, I'll go, but it's like, I mean, we got to hit the city. You have to. All right. I've never been there, so. A little dinner. Always dinner. Always dinner. I'm the dinner guy.

Pretty much all I'm good for is booking restaurants. Pretty good at that. You'll always hit the chat and you're like, dude, does anyone want, uh, free reservations? Anyone want my reservation? Well, not. Well, because some places book up like two months in advance, so I book a reservation two months in advance

because I'd like to go. And then if I can't go, I'll offer it to my friends. I think that's a good idea. Certain restaurants, when they're booked up like that and I want to try them, I'll book a reservation like two months out because you have to. And then if I can't go, I'll just type in the optic chat and say,

hey, and if you guys want the reservation? Two months out. Damn. So could you technically book a reservation and then sell your reservation spot? Some places, some places, like, there's a place in New Jersey called the Butchers Block, and it's like a super popular steakhouse,

and people have, like, standing reservations week to week. Like, every, this family has a reservation every Friday at 5 p.m. And usually they'll just give it out, but I've heard of people, like, selling their reservation, like, yo, for 100 bucks, you can take my res. Like, that's how pop in some spots are. That's the only spot I've heard about it.

That's like a little business. I'm sure there's plenty. Yeah, well, business going on. Bro, I've been getting into like vintage t-shirts lately and like shit like that. Like people, there's a bunch of YouTube channels of like people that'll go flip like vintage t-shirts and they they do like whatnot streams. Bro, it's a crazy world out there. It's crazy. Really?

It's like people that, yeah, there's a kid in Austin or Houston and he just goes to like a goodwill or like a thrift shop at like eight in the morning. And then they bring out the bins and then they go, all right, you guys can go. and there's like 30 people that go through the bins at Goodwill and they'll look for like certain t-shirts and then they'll get a whole bin of t-shirts for like five bucks and sometimes they'll flip those shirts for like $30 like a shirt oh Gary V would be harder to rock it's probably it's the same your parents go sell utensils it's the same same model same model is the what

coffee his was coffee mugs right his was garage sales oh I thought it was coffee yeah no it's a lot it's a lot of things. I'm sure that's it too. Gary's a good guy. Gary ran on the DM's Instagram. Other day. Happy, Happy New Year A-Z. I don't know if it's actually him or if someone's running the account.

Not who. This is his nephew. Happy New Year A-Z. Happy, Happy New Year, Gary. Did you, like, just realize it? What? As you said it, you're like, yeah, he wishes me, and then you were like, wait.

No, I don't know. Because after meeting Gary in Minnesota, like, I don't know. But it's just funny that, like, that's he I wouldn't say it's funny but yeah he's like dude go to a garage sale and find whatever and go flip it for 20 bucks and

I'm sure he's actually made a good amount of people to money because I mean that is hey man you get something for cheap oh dude these guys stuff makes sense it's like finding a Pokemon car these guys are crushing too like literally like you'll go into a

let me pull one up right now you go into a whatnot stream and you just click vintage and dude there's people that they treat it like it's a used car lot they're like this one right here It's a single stitch from 1995. It's a vintage Looney Tunes.

Picked it up. Dude, some of these, I promise you, some of these are going for 80 bucks, but we got it right here for 40 bucks. Dude, and it's just like nonstop talking.

It's pretty, it's pretty like it. It's just a mad, interesting world. What was that show called growing up? Storage Wars? Yeah, like, look at this guy. Dude,

that show. Storage Wars. I forgot about that. And then you got, was it, pawn stars? That was called? Yep. And this is my dad,

Big Haas. Exactly. Damn. I forgot. about all that. I used to love watching those, man. Storage wars. Look how many, look how many shirts he's got in his background. Just shirts. And he'll run a shirt for this, this shirt right here is for 30 bucks. He's running it. Somebody will pick it up. And then he will turn around and be like, all right, next one thing.

Oh, so you buy it while you're in the stream. Yeah, that's what. That's what not is. It's like Twitch, but an auction Twitch. Really? So you just, yeah. I never been on whatnot. I know Hector's done like some of the auction streams. I didn't know how that works. I didn't know if someone in real time at that. that moment just locks in that shirt or whatever it may be. Yeah, it's literally like just going to a like an auction auctioneer place. I'm actually going to. I'd be embarrassed to do one. What not stream.

Old school methods jerseys, three viewers, no buyers. I have a lot of jerseys. I have a lot of jerseys. This is next. This is next threat. CLG, this is vintage. It's my page jersey. Five X.

They're going to be like, five. You can use it as a blanket. That's a snuggie. Dude, 5X is crazy. I was at my biggest XL. Because I'm not tall. I'm 58. Yeah, yeah.

I'm proud of it. 58 and proud. I'm not, I'm not upset with it. But I like some more, sure, but I wasn't 2X. I didn't quite hit that. I just did a whatnot stream yesterday with the, remember the little cards I got had you guys sign?

Yeah. So we're doing like the last wave of those and I just did those on whatnot. and that shit was fun man like really yeah like doing like auctions and stuff dude you guys should do it for r nl for sure just something maybe like custom maybe like you know what or like as like a surprise i don't know maybe like a couple items per drop you go on whatnot sell some stuff and then uh and then have like the surprise items dude it's fun because it's like a it's like a show it's not just like a store you know yeah like you're kind of like making a show out of it which is it is it is mad fun. I was thinking about doing stuff with around the bar for it. Got to figure out what I'm

going to do next with that. Yeah. But how's a better days ahead? It's going well. I mean, we just dropped again this weekend. Every drop, I mean, we had a big issue this past, so we didn't drop for like three or four months. So we have this big drop. It was, it was a solid one. I mean, that goes well. And then our production, so the way it works, so we're basically a four-man team. It's me and three others. Right. like this big company. I mean, we don't really, yeah, yeah, we don't have the, the machinery, right? We outsource everything. So we take the orders, we outsource it. And of course, as, since I retired, I wanted to, like, up the quality. Anybody can really make clothing, but I've

always liked, like, the more luxury, heavyweight hoodies and the, the heavier T's. So I wanted to upscale and increase the, sorry, improve the quality. So through that, it does take a little slower, which I understand, but we were working with this company that essentially were just lying. And then they produced the wrong color of the entire hoodie. And I'm like, I can't, people bought a certain color. This is not the color at all. Like, I'm not making them again. So there was just just big and, oh, they're coming today.

They're coming today. We're shipping today. That went on for like four weeks. And I'm like, next thing you know, we're three or four weeks, no drop. So that was stressful because now we have a full new production company. Like I flew two of my coworkers out to L.A. to go talk to as many distributors as possible just to make sure this never happens again because when you're trying to run a clothing business, the last thing you want to do is have people

who like buying or like supporting, they don't get their stuff for four months. And it's just like, that would be annoying. If I bought something and didn't get anything for four months, I'd be annoyed. So I just want to make sure it never happens again. But luckily, we're back on track now, working with a good company who's reliable and we have a personal connection with. So far, so good. I mean, I'm excited for the way it's going.

I just want to figure really how to scale it. Like I feel like right now we have a certain base that's super supportive. And I don't know how to really catapult and scale to the next level. I kind of feel like TikTok and like Instagram is the way to do it. Yeah. But I'm also focused on streaming and. Mark monopolized the collab business so you can't do that. What?

Yep. The RNLX, R&LX whatever. Oh, yeah. That shit took over. Yeah, no, R&L, I mean, we love, doing stuff with R&L too. The one thing with my, what I don't want to do is like, I still want, I want to do collabs, but I also want to do standalone.

Like I want, I want a catapult, like, and also it's not a gaming company. Like, that's the, right, right. That's what I'm trying to separate is like, it's marketed to gamers because I'm in the gaming space and we're all, I mean, I have friends who help promote it. But, like, I don't really know if R&LX scum, or R&LX, whatever, like makes sense for the brand. Kind of, I don't know.

But I just don't want it to be like a gaming brand. No, that's what I was saying. Like, I wouldn't say go the collab route. I think you should go like... Look, we did like with a statement of an R&L. Like, that's, those are clothing companies. So that makes sense. Yeah, but you got to also understand that

doing standalones and repeated standalones is either going to keep it at the same height, either go a little bit higher, could even go under. Yeah, no, I got to. that because now people are going to start waiting for things they like yeah i'm not saying we want to do other things in the meantime like collabs and stuff like that your stand-alone to become the rare ones yeah no i don't i don't go what i'm saying i don't mind stand-alones i just so like for example like

we did bd a bda x r nl we did bdax a statement of which is attaches company like those are clothing companies so to me that's seamless it's like okay there's these are two clothing brands collabing i'm like 50-50 if i want to do like the creator stuff there's Like BDAX scum. You can. There's other ways to like, there's other ways to get your, like, you can ghost drop behind a collab.

So for instance, like, you make something live that you're, you don't promote it at all. You make a collab, a collab live. More people come to the site, they might grab two things of the collab and one of your own.

I get your time. There's certain things, like there's methods behind like, ways of growing it like but i that's something i still don't know what to do i don't know how to i don't know i don't know i don't know what to do either well i just don't have time like i'm just doing what i know like how to grow it either i don't know what like i know like if i stream more i'm going to get more subscribers or if i stream more people are going to click me i don't so that's the thing how do you get i don't get it either how do you get arnal clothes into a shop

like into a brick i couldn't tell i i had no idea no idea i wouldn't get able to tell you But I also don't want, of course, if I were to become a bigger creator, of course, it'd be marketed to more people. But I want better days ahead to grow as better days ahead. Like, I don't want better days ahead to only get bigger because methods get bigger or R&L gets bigger because Bose starts popping off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. And maybe if I have more time to actually, like, really tone in on it and hone in on it, like I could, if I was working full time, I'd be trying to figure out, okay, how do I get this in the store? How do I market it to more people?

But kind of stream and do, like, it's tough. You have to lean on your guys. I still love it. That's what I do. No lie. Aaron and Bosco? She, there to go to my eyes.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. That's what I'm, I want to do originally around the bar drop. I've never done, I've never done a solo hitch drop with anyone, ever. It's always been flycaster.

Yeah, or TST or like optic or something like that. Yeah. I've never done anything like personal. I'm definitely down. Well, we're dropping skump and bull. for Boston. Okay.

And then I think we have like our own line coming out, like our own drop. But I'm not sure if it's going to be like something where we're like promoting it as hard as a, might be like one tweet and it reminds you two weeks later type of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying. But I'm down. We should do it. I'll just do a huge one at the end of the year.

BDA X, R&L, X, Kump. Just to go X X X X. Oh no. X X drop. Or we do a watch party. That's what I'm saying. But like that sort of what I really like about BDAA Three little Richies watching the TV

Better A's Head put things in perspective to me Because like She's looking fire And they look like fucking South Park characters Yeah that'd be good Right I like it I like it

My favorite thing about BDA though Is it put it in perspective Because like When you read messages like Hey Better Days Head changed my life Like it's like oh that's awesome I love reading those Then you meet people in person

They have a Better A's Head tattoo And there's a guy in New York, he tells me I was in a car crash, I go through all this, Better A's A Hell. Like, then you really get to like the personal connection that like Better A's Ahead is done for some people. And that's what really makes it like puts in, like, my grandma was there when this guy told me that story. And she's like, I think I lost the tournament or I was in loser. And she's like, never forget that you're a real winner for that. And like that always stuck with me.

Like, it's really cool to see, I guess, how some of these things actually do impact people. Yeah. So that's honestly my favorite part about it is just So you're running around and get lost in all the craziness And then somebody will hit you with a real with a real story and you're like oh shit And then I'm like wow that actually matters Like like like like what you just told me is like actually because it's so easy to get caught in like the everyday stresses and like everybody stuck in their own way Right like yeah you're worried about what time the stream is going live today or I'm worried about oh my gonna get a video out today

Whatever it may be and then you hear something like that it's like that I'm like wow like that that's that's that's that happened yeah that happens to me at the off season too like people come to me at the off season and I'm like all stressed and stuff and then they'll like hit me with like the deepest story and I'm like oh I love that like if I'm having a bad day not a bad day but like not my best day and I'm just I don't know I could be anywhere and or someone will be like yo Bose I fuck with you and I'll be like finally man thank you I needed that today They'd be like, y'all, I've been watching you for a minute, man.

I can't wait to meet you. Yeah. Like, damn. That makes you feel good. You brighten my day. I probably don't tell you, but you did. Yeah. What you really say is,

I was like, let's do it. But in your mind, you're like, man, that was awesome. Yeah, like, yeah, in my mind, I'm like, thank you for that. I really appreciate that, man. I would never say that in real life. But in my mind, like, I would because that's too sentimental. I'm not going to be like, thank you, man.

You really made my day? But in my mind, I'm like, thank you for brightening my day and making me happier today, brother. I really appreciate that. For real, I do. Yeah, I know. Yo, we're going to start a Power World server. Have you seen that? What is that?

Bro, it's sick. It's Pokemon. So it's Pokemon, but it's also like you run around in real life. In real life, it's VR? No, no, no. It's like an open world game. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Like GTA, Pokemon, GTA.

Kind of. Yeah, yeah. So you set like a base and then like you can set things to work on and you can sit there and you can build it. Like if you're building a bed, you sit there and you build a bed. But if you capture a pal, which is basically a Pokemon. Are they actual Pokemon? No. Oh, they're like their Pokemon like it's basically Pokemon.

Like different names and stuff? Like you can get a little dude that looks like a sheep and you level them up and he'll grow into a bigger sheep. He'll evolve like it's Pokemon. But when you're at your base. They can help you build. So, like, if now if you're building your bed, your little Pokemon will come up beside you and build your bed with you

and you're building it in half the time. And then also you can set them to, like, defend your base. And when you do that, you can give them, like, baseball bats or, like, guns. Is just a sheep with a gun? Yes. Yes. Really?

I didn't check this out now. And the servers, dude, the servers are like, they can go out to, like, 32 people. bro and then there's like big raid bosses so there's like gigantic Pokemon out in like the ocean and you're and if you and all your friends are like yo let's go let's go get the big boss then you come in there with all you go there with all your Pokemon all your little pals like a hundred pals and they all have guns and you're shooting down this like big this like can we see a video or something of like I just want to visualize

what because everything you're saying sounds amazing I want to see how the actually game looks if that's possible Matt is there any way you can show a video of of a power world really quick okay I just I want to visualize maybe like a power world right power world boss yeah yeah it's hilarious he said he was talking to meet head the other week and he was like what do you gotta what are you doing today meathead and then he goes I got so much fucking shit to do Nick comes up to me he's like I asked me what he had to do he goes I got so much fucking shit to do it.

I wonder if anybody even knows who Meathead is, like that we're talking about. I love that his name is Meadhead. His tag is Meathead. His tag is his tag. And I love that everyone here calls him Meathead. Like, there's no real name is, hey, Meathead. I can't get... Oh, man.

That's good. So this is Pal World. This is Pal World. So that's his little guy. You see his little Pokemon running around? Can you only have one pal? No. You can have like... No, because he's got like four of them.

You can have five of them, I think. Oh, so it's basically those are basically Pokemon. No, it's basically Pokemon. Are people loving this on streaming shit? People are, I'll become a Pal world treatment. People are loving it. That's what I'm saying. We should have like a little optic server.

I would play in the afternoons, like in the afternoons and then ranked at night. Yeah, so you threw, you see what he threw with basically a poker ball. And then he breaks out of it. And then he captured it. And so now he's going to go probably back to his base and you can release him. But yeah, there's little Pokemon.

There's little like pals running around everywhere. And he shoots him with, he shoots him with a bow and arrow. A little Percy Jackson looking guy. No, I mean, I also have no idea how this game like exists. Like you would think Nintendo. Shut this down. See, these are all at the bottom. those are all the pals running around.

So that's what he just caught. And now it's just running around his base. Hey, man. I mean, they're unique. They're designed uniquely. They're uniquely named. I don't think there's any IP rights that they can claim. Is he holding it?

Yeah, he's holding it. You can pick him up. This would be hilarious. We had an optic server. Dude, it would be so funny. It would be so good. It would be so funny. I think it would be fire.

But yeah, that's like an example of somebody and somebody told their friends. yo, I have an idea for a game. Let's make Pokemon. But with guns. And somebody else was like, I don't think you should do that. Yeah. And they did it anyway. And now it's the number one game.

It's the number one game on Steam. They're saying, I told you so. I told you. I told you, you just give Pokemon guns. But people have already modded it. So, like, all the, they make all the pals like actual Pokemon. So there's little Pikachu's running around. Oh, really?

Yeah. That's good. It's fucking crazy. I want to check it out. It's crazy. Are you? Are you guys going to play anything else now that ranked is out? No.

Now I'm just ranked. As of right now, no. I troll sometimes and ask Nick if we're playing or whoever. I'll be like, yo, Val. And they'll be like, fuck no. So I know shit's dead now. I don't know what. Dude, I don't know.

The one thing about, like, look it at me. Like, I feel like a lot of people, like my rank streams are my most popular. I'll do rank play for dummies and I can try to help people get better. And first and foremost, I just love competitive. Call of Duty is what I've been doing my whole life, but it is hard to try and branch out because I think people watch you for certain things. Like, if I were to go start playing

World of Warcraft, for example, why would you watch me instead Asmod? Why would you watch me and not Asmengold? Yeah. Like, why would you like, so, I don't really know what to do. Like, I'll play GTARP because I love GTARP, I want to get back in that, especially when GTA6 comes out. But as it right now, it just right. Yeah, yeah, that'll be dope. I don't really know

what else you can even... I'm trying to think of the other options. Like, I played only up. Like games like that, I love playing. Like a one-off game. Yeah. Yeah, that pop up. When it comes to actually getting into something else, I just feel like we're so deep-rooted in the call-duty community that it just makes sense.

Like almost scary. And I do like it. I mean, I love it. We do like the 100-hour series where we play a game for 100 hours and, you know, tell the story of it. And we did Apex and then we did Val. And after that, it's like, what the fuck do we do? What can we even do that we can play on stream where we won't go down to like 200, 100 viewers.

Oh, Dota, you have, Dota, you might have 100. No, I don't, yeah, I think we would go down to like 150 if we played like a Dota or a League of Legends. I can't even play Warzone. I mean, what is it just so boring or? It's just so, the fan base is so different. Like, it's just, even when we played Val,

and Val is a shooter. I get it, though. Yeah, we would go from, I mean, we went from 1100s, like viewers down to like 500, playing Val. And it's like, damn. And we did that for a hundred hour straight. it's like we i would like i'd get like a little two-piece

i'm like oh shit for our first hundred hours i'm like oh that was nice i look over a chat and no one's talked in three minutes and i'm like i hope you guys are enjoying the content well that's such a bad feeling that's why i love ranked too that's my chat's popping yeah yeah i'll just i'll get like a nasty shot no one's i'm like you're like oh they're about to gas me yeah i guess you guys didn't see it Must have blink. You guys see that chat? That's happened to me, for sure.

You said the same in Warzone? I mean, yeah, Warzone. I mean... Yeah. Yeah. I'm good enough at Warzone, but like, for example, if I'm playing with Seth, you're going to want to watch Seth play Warzone.

He's just better at Warzone. And then you're still going to hear me in the call or whatever. Just Warzone. And also, Warzone as a game, I'm just... I like competitive Call of Duty more. but I like rank I mean it's where the viewership is for me

and like I think me as a streamer like I'm like in my opinion one of the most interactive streamers out there where like I pretty much read every single message which is kind of like a blessing I occurs because I'm mid-map fucking reading chat not focusing all the time so when I have more chatters and more hype in the chat I'm just a better streamer I'm just more energized

more hype and I'm glad ranks here I mean the cheating thing is mind boggling to me I mean how we can launch a ranked mode and not have a proper anti-cheat. It's just, I tweeted it's like having a delicious soup with no spoon. It just, it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Is it bad?

I mean, yeah, it's already bad. I mean, Colton and Sam are already playing on PS5. Wow. I mean, it's bad enough to where like it shouldn't, it shouldn't even be an issue, though. Like, there should be a proper or at least they should be making strides towards a very proper anti-cheet to make rank play enjoyable for everybody. Like, the fact that creators have to switch to a different platform to enjoy it to its full experience is sad.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not opposed to PS5, though. I'm really not. Well, it's just, the downside to PS5 is if you want to do anything else besides play ranked, like if you want to play in a wager tournament, you're at a disadvantage because you're getting 120 frames on PS5. This guy's getting 300. So it's great for ranked and only ranked if you switch to PS5. Everything else, or like if you want to transition rate to, I don't know.

No, it makes sense to me. I probably will, though. We played a guy that was just spinning around hacking. Like, just no fuck's giving. He would just be walking normal and then just headshots you. Head shots, head shots, head shots. Then we played people who are just playing it off. Like, bro, we know you're fucking cheating.

Well, no. And this is dumb. I can tell you if you're cheating off one kill. Yeah. I just know. Like, bro, you can't kill me that quick. Except that scrappy clip. Well, apparently there was a dead body there that Codcast shouldn't see.

That's what he's. said, which makes sense. I mean, the guys in the CDLPC. The only player confident enough, and let me tell you, I have nothing but respect for Jimbo for going out there on land and trying it. The fact, like, the self-confidence it took, the self-confidence it took to go to land after cheating, I mean, many few habits. I've got nothing but respect. Jeez, that sucks. Now, imagine being Jimbo's teammate. Your teammate gets banned in real time for cheating next to you on land. He looked to your right. He takes his backpack. He sprinted away. He's like, what the fuck? gone. Just out.

Done for it. Well, I guess I guess we flew here for nothing. Yeah, no, it sucks. Wow. And like, yeah, and then it also puts his teammates into question. This is obviously all news, but the one thing, what sucks as well about ranked, is that the community hates to hear people talk about cheaters. So if I accuse someone to cheating, he's not cheating. Every time you lose, you say he's cheating. And I'm like, I've been playing for 10 plus years. And sure, I'm sure

sometimes I'm going to hack you Zayton and accuse someone who's not cheating, but how can you not? It's so prevalent where you die with suss one time, you're already thinking someone's cheating. Like, instead of blaming the creators, how about we just get a proper anti-cheats? So no creator has to make a accusation and potentially make a wrong accusation, because you can look at it two ways. One, people could be cheating and you'd have no idea, and they could be playing it off, and then these guys are making a name for themselves while cheating. Or two, someone who's not cheating and playing very well can possibly be discredited and labeled as a cheater just because they're playing very well because how could you not it's like a it's like a

war in your mind of who's cheating and who's not cheating when it shouldn't be an issue to begin with how many people do you think in cod have come up and made it you know made some sort of name for themselves got an invites to big tournaments big war zone tournaments I would say war zone kids yeah definitely yeah 1,000 no way to know but compared to CDL there's no way to happen to CDL because everybody in the CDL right now for the most part has been known long enough to like and like went to like local lands at least like I don't think there hasn't been a CDL player that solely made a name online and was so good online that didn't do anything on land and that got it I feel it's well it's impossible to be a really good cheater and then go to like your tendencies

are going to be all fucked up yeah like you it wouldn't work yeah at all like you'd be so used to like pre-firing shit and all weird it'd be yeah maybe too hard you'd be playing it'd be be too hard but i'm sure there's people in the war zone scene that probably made some paper so they probably did their thing i wouldn't be surprised i also it's just so hard to pinpoint well because war zone like i know how people shoot like i know i sound i know but like i'm so in tune with like how you what your character can do what your character can and that's i like i know certain ways like yeah bro like you can't even it's impossible for you to like use your thumbs to move your character that way. Like, nobody can do that, bro. It's impossible. I know you're cheating. So the wall hacking is what

so, yeah, we played an aimbiter, but the wall hackers are what I try to read and what I think I can read pretty well. It's like, if you read me weird one play, I can just tell like that's not possible. Like on this hill with this much time left, you wouldn't read that. It's not like, it's not even a thing. Like you wouldn't, if the hill is far left street and I'm hitting right street with 50 seconds left and you're like playing for me hard without any information. Like, I know your suss. Like, it's just, after playing professionally for 10 plus years, you just know what players, how players think for the most part.

And like, of course, like some players who are newer or not as skilled or tenured, like, of course they're going to make weird plays, but you can always read it to a certain degree. And then if it happens more and more, it's very easy to sort of realize who's cheating. But it just sucks because now you, always think people are cheating because how could you not? If 50% of your lobbies have cheaters, how could you not always think, oh, this guy's probably cheating? Even like, dude,

even like online tournaments, like if you try to play a tournament on CMG or a tournament on you know, codagent or something, like you'll make it a semis and you're like, I've never heard of these guys before. They're the best. And all it takes is one weird. And dude, even if they're not cheating, dude, it just, you get. You just, you, you get. You. You just, you get so checked we literally one time I'm I I ended the game I ended the game round two of a one and done and I was like I'm just not playing these kids I'm just not playing them and I said them I we sent CMG or it was either CMG or cottage it sent them two clips and I was like they're like well we can't prove it off these two and I was like just refund us then because I'm not I'm not

I'm just not dude he dude it was two rounds straight of just like there's no way you knew I was there. It's not even possible. And when I see the sprinting and then I see the jump and then the peak right to where I am through the wall and then the jump back and keep sprinting, I'm like, they think, you know, I know what you're doing. They're so bad at playing it off too. I haven't met one who can like perfect, who has perfected it.

That you know of. That I know of. Yeah. That's the thing. But seriously, I really haven't. Like I play with some sauce people like. I feel bad. for like the Challenger scene who has like, so we have people trying to literally make this

their livelihood and make it to the pro scene and they're playing against cheaters because there isn't a proper anti-cheat and this is why I do think there's an argument to possibly go to console just for challengers. 100% because I know Adam Appicella talked about it just logistically it makes sense to run into vent it's easier but just the cheating thing like for example right if you're playing against temp or some or Aesem these guys have four 500, 8,000. 100 viewers, you're not going to cheat against them because you're not going to ruin your whole life. But if you're playing against some of these middle of the pack challenger teams that are good,

you can cheat against them because they don't have the outreach to actually do it like to start a ruckus about it. You cheat against hemp, you're banned. You cheat against some of these players that don't have a stream presence or a brand. Like you can get away with it and you knocked them out of the tournament and that's it and people forget about it. So I feel bad for these challenger players that are trying to make it and you have people just literally ruining their livelihoods. Wait, so who lost the Challenger's Cups? Face it's holding them now. Okay.

And there was a, there was big drama around the Challenger's Cup recently. I don't know. Apparently there was an issue with Face it where you had to, everyone had to link through Activision ID or, uh, I saw Tom Gravity's team got forfeited because, well, first and foremost, one of their players didn't wake up on time, but it was like round one. Like, remember back in like old cups, round one was always a free win for the most part, even if you were three before. So they probably could have won it three before,

but they didn't even let them play. They forfeited them. So I'm like, that one's weird because I blame the player who didn't wake up wholeheartedly, like wake the fuck up for your tournament. That's completely on you. But I do feel bad for the rest of his teammates

that they got four for a day. They weren't allowed to play three before? No. That's fucked. Jesus. You should be able to play three before. Back in the day, they'd have been like,

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And then you just make it as scrappy as you can until your teammate wakes up. Everyone's calling them, you're tweeting you. Who's got so-and-so's numbers? Yeah. I miss those days, bro. I've missed those days, man. Yeah, those. The first day I met study was like the first day, Dome S&D on MW3, 1 and done.

We and we didn't know each other. We both signed up for the 2B2 together. I'm hitting them up on aim and yo where are you at yo where you at tweeting him we start to match oh I'm playing 1 v2

like I win a few rounds they're winning a few rounds study gets on I invite him he comes in we win the map end up winning the whole tournament and ever since that we've been friends How did y'all even find each other Like we used to just play each other

Yeah probably we used to play each other too It was a different world back then man It was a different world It would be a different world Like we used to have to tweet Like it was more tight-knit Nobody had nobody's number It was like and if you did

It was like a You had to be like Well no There was not even pictures of yourself No one knew what I looked like Until I went to a local Yeah yeah It was like it was like the logo avies

Like yeah I was obese I don't want people seeing my face Back then If they saw what I looked like back then On Twitter I would have gotten verbaled every day If I'd be you to GBS Oh my guy you are obese

You would follow everybody on Twitter But I remember the first time Somebody in gaming Try to friend request me on Facebook I was like, no. Oh, I had two social media accounts. I had two Twitters. Did you really?

Yeah. Yeah, I would do the same. No one in high school knew I was pro until maybe my sophomore junior year. Really? And I was already a pro for years at that point. Yeah, no one knew. I was kind of embarrassed by it. Back then, I was this fat-ass kid.

It was like, it was cool to us if you were in the gaming scene, but to like a normal kid. We knew we were all nerds. Yeah. Like, I remember in one time in my, in my, my science class, like I was like writing. Dude, I was so, I was so obsessed with Mono War for 2 that would write out my custom classes.

So I'd write like, number one, ACR, FMJ. Like, in class? Yeah, in class. Just on a sheet of paper. You were one geek bastard. And I remember a dude walked by me and he's like on the lacrosse team. And he was like, what is that? And I was like, nothing.

Like literally like some like Hallmark Channel, Disney Channel shit. Nothing. And he's like, dude, is that, are those call of duty? Is that call the duty guns? I was like, no, no, it's not. Amen. And nowadays, people are like, I want to be ninja.

It's so different. In such a small amount of time. What has it been? The world is just... 15 years, 10 years? The world has changed completely, man. These kids are on iPads now. They're not outside playing.

That shit is a secret. I'm not sure. Listen, I'm sure some neighborhoods are like that, but I tweeted about it. It's like, back where I grew up, every street you go down, there's four bikes outside of a house there's people outside playing manhunt

they're playing baseball they're wrestling like there was a sense of where to find each friend group there was a sense of community your parents weren't worried if you were out for an hour like they I'm going out my friends we're going to be riding bikes

I'd be back by dinner now it's like everyone's on there I mean and I get it the world has changed but I'm sure there's still some neighborhoods like that and people are still playing outside but these kids are seven they had iPads yes

you'd hit blockbuster come back damn blockbuster and you get a candy aisle like Godzilla just fucking knocking over candy yeah you did or I mean in Godzilla

you'd get hell you get like a you get a movie and a game and then you come home and you got you know your two boys are with you and you play the game

until 3 a.m. Then you watch the movie all nighters playing zombies laying down in the glitch spot and then waking up the next morning and you died and you're infuriated because like how I was in the glitch spot you're around around 40

now I'm 31 bro damn happens quick man damn that damn really loud skip school when God dropped well not about that I just meant like how much everything has changed

oh okay because like I graduated high school almost 10 years ago but I can still recall all these memories kind of like it was two years ago yeah yeah it's like it's it if you really I used to skip school and cod dropped just one day just one the next day I had to take

off like I'm crying this shit dog I'm definitely sick the next day I don't even ask me I'm sick the next day for real you know I've been starting thinking yesterday I don't know but cynical every time I think a negative thought I was like shut the fuck up you're gonna die one day wait what happened I just been telling myself I have a bad thought or like oh I'm stressed I'm just like shut the fuck up you're gonna die one day doesn't matter that's how you go And it actually worked. I'm just like, who cares? And it's like, wow, it's right.

We only got one shot at this shit. Yeah, you're right. And we lived a quarter of it already. Chill. That's what I said. More than a quarter. Chill, that weird shit. I mean, it's true.

You got 75 centella. That's actually crazy. Real shit. Dude, I, I was, uh, when I was trying to get players for one of the tournaments that I was throwing and somebody, like, bailed, I was trying to get James, uh, one of our producers to play. I was like, dude, I just need somebody. And he was like, I don't know if I can do it.

And I was like, oh, that's cool, man. You could probably play in the next one. Hopefully I don't die this year and I'll make it at 32. And you'll just play in the 32 one. And he was like, what? He's like, fine, I'll play. I was like, I got his ass. I got his ass.

You're sick for that. I got his ass. I mean, shit, it is true, man. You're sick for that, man. No, it's a crazy. Everyone's on the clock. Some people's clock is before others. Some people's is later.

it is a good way to actually like see I the thing is I'm not scared oh see I'm different it's my number one sure well like when I got into that car accident that's all I could think about is damn my mom would have been fucked up right now crying that shit would have been crazy but then I think at that like that moment is also like it brought me closer to like you better take this like shit kind of serious like I'm not scared like if you know two weeks from now they're like you might be exing out at the end of the month brother you're not scared of that what could you do it's my clock yeah but I'm terrified of it man like yeah of course I'm terrified I don't want to leave all my friends and shit but

once the dark once it goes black brother it's over there's no coming back and that's just the reality of it that's just the reality real shit it is the reality but I hate the reality of yeah enjoy the time while you're here man I I have uh Alexis has like a like a phobia of death. Yeah, I don't. I don't like thinking about it really. And I don't. I'm not like,

I'm not like scared, but I have like a, I have like mad fear of like someone around me like dying. Oh, I can't stop. I don't like that. I have that like crazy.

I don't care. Like my clock, I don't care about other people's I care. That's what I'm saying. Like if I, if I text someone and like, and it's so hypocritical I'm really bad at texting sometimes

If I text someone and I haven't heard from him It doesn't even matter, it could be fucking Matt Craig And I'm like, yo Matt hasn't texting me back Like anybody checked on Matt? Is Matt Craig, is he dead? There he is. She just walked in, that's why I said that. There he is.

But yeah, I think it happens to, that happens to me all the time. I hate when my mom calls me past 12. When what? That shit gives me like a knot on my stomach. Like if my mom calls me super late, like, fuck happen.

Yep. She gives me an instant not. Oh, it's, it's rough. It does put it in perspective, though. Like, if you, if you take, like, it is a little bit of a cynical way of thinking, but, like, if you think about any of your issues or your problems, at least personally, if I'm just like, there's, like, a sense of relief in, like, your current issue you're having. If you think that way, like, you're going to die one day and none of it's going to matter.

So, like, it does give you, like, a temporary sense of relief in that aspect where it's, like, if you're stressing about something or you have this negative thought, it's like, no one's going to remember that. No one's going to, like, it's life. Like, the biggest celebrity in the world dies, and it trends for a day, and then it's nothing. No. So if this worldwide phenomenon can pass away

and get talked about for a day or two, and then things go back to normal, imagine us. Isn't it crazy you think about? Yeah. Think about these huge actors and these celebrities, and it is crazy. I mean, there's a big, there's huge talk around it when it happens that after 24, 36 hours, right back to normal.

The regularly scheduled programming. Damn. What a touchdown last night. What a home run. No lie. This influencer said this. Right back to normal, man. It's crazy how it works.

I was watching last night, what I fall asleep watching? The Malaysia flight or some shit on Netflix. Oh, yeah, they were missing flight. I'm like, damn, that shit is crazy. We're to, what is that? There's like a Dave Chappelle bit where it's like, you know, they grew up and they watched the Challenger's flight.

The Challenger flight like disintegrate in the air and it was like the craziest shit ever. It was like traumatic. He was like, and y'all's generation don't understand that because we get one of those every week. And it's so true. It's so true. Like every week like every week or every month something crazy happens. You're like, yo, like do you remember? I think it was like last year, two years ago like a gas like a gas like.

like some sort of warehouse like blew up in like Dubai or something dude it was like the biggest explosion I'd ever Oh in Lebanon? Lebanon yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah just like huge and I remember being like that is insane And then the next like three days later I like didn't even think about it Well no dude the submarine thing

That's same same days later it was just out of my mind I'm like what the fuck is going on? I was like I was like my TikTok was full of the submarine Where is the submarine? Where is it? Blah, blah, blah. Everything comes out. And now it's just like...

Oh, and never do no nuts shit like that. And just some social media shit, I feel like. Like, there's just too much rapid access to information. It's like... Where it's impossible to hone in and focus on one thing for too long because there's always something new. Oh, chicken recipe. Submarine sunk? Okay, here's dancing.

It's like there's just always something to distract you. Always something new. There's always a new issue. You're from Boston, right? I'm from New Jersey. Oh, okay. From Jersey and then I went to Toronto to Boston now here. Oh, okay.

Never mind then. But I'm excited for Boston. I mean, I lived there for a year and a half, a couple years, 20 minutes outside Boston, but it's a fun city. It's a small, it's like a small city. It's clean, good great food, good sports culture. I mean, I'm excited to go back. So as somebody who only watches the optic matches, what's been going on with the boys? What happened?

from you guys' perspective? I think people like to overthink this a lot, especially when it comes to our team, just because of being the more popular team, everybody will look for everything. Like, you know, like this player's doing this wrong, whatever. I think the competition is very high, and if you look at call of duty across the year,

it's a marathon, not a sprint, certain metas are better for certain teams. Right now, where it's not the best is, I think, the way to put it candidly. I think phase in Toronto on a tier of their own, but we've seen that happen every single year where these two teams are in the S tier for major one major two this team turns up

major three this team is the best like in the reality you kind of want to peek towards the end of the year you want to win champs like you want to win the last major and then going to champs riding that high right now we're still figuring things out it's early in the year we're having trouble clutching up on some of these maps but also some of these teams are playing well

like Heretics for example they three owe us Heretics is a very hard team to read in the sense that they're all from Spain. They were playing in Spain for the past few years. Like, they don't have a traditional play style. They play unorthodox. They play different. It's hard to read them.

Then you play against Faze, and Fais are just riding this red hot high. We lose MAP 1, where we kind of let that one slip. We lose 30 seconds on Palace. Then map 2 and 3, Selym goes 11 and 2, and then double positive. Phas just look very good. They look in a tier of the room with Toronto right now. So I think people overthink competition a lot. Everyone's like, when you're the most popular team,

everybody expects you to be the best at all times. That's just not the reality in a competitive league like this. Right now we're still figuring things out. And hopefully it starts in Boston because I stand by the fact as a competitor my whole life. Like it takes one map or one match at an actual event and it turns a team into a completely different team. For example, if we go out there and beat Heretics round one

and you just ride that momentum in high, there's like this weird, unspoken, just like, switch that flips and the team this becomes way better. I don't even really know how to verbalize it. But yeah, I mean, I'm not, like intense momentum. Yeah.

I'm not worried about them really at all. Kind of forget all the bad shit that's having. Like, all right, we won now. So back to regular scheduled programming. Yeah. She's got these Ws. I mean, like, it definitely does something for your confidence.

But, I mean, just watching, and just got to, I mean, from what I see, more teamwork, together better talk more no I don't see that's the thing like on certain teams like phase you could tell who's who's like the one who's that I always think who's the haggie of that team it's draza they owe it like you can get on he's gonna know the classes he's gonna know every spot how to break this he's gonna know what we should do on S&D all around brains like yeah every team has that I don't know

who's like the because I don't play with them you know what I'm saying I wouldn't be able to tell you but I don't know who's like the the nerd of the team like you know what i'm saying i wouldn't be able to tell you i i don't play with them enough i think shotsy's like the nerd in the sense where it's like classes and and spots and then i think kenny's like the main facilitator when it comes to combs like Kenny probably kenny's the one like i would say trucey's doing a great job like yeah i don't think just because wins aren't translating right now doesn't mean that the players aren't doing things properly also i think the meta is interesting because i would like i think our team benefits off shotsy and pred both running

SMGs. Right now, Pred's running an assault rifle a lot just because the way the game is played. And then post-major one, we're going to have a brand new game, essentially. The game changed. The gun's got changed. So the game changes, the teams change. People turn up at different times. I just think people love to, because people want something to talk about, which I understand. Yeah. But people really overth think competition. It's like they see a lost phase and they're like, this shouldn't be happening. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Do you know how hard it is to beat that team. Like, it is always a tough match.

And I understand recently, before yesterday, we were 10 and 1 against them the past couple of years, but nonetheless, man, it's just games are different. When you watch competitive and you've been involved for so long, I'm not worried about them at all. Like, I'm not like, oh my God, we're in trouble. It's just major one. Yep. There's four more left.

Nope. And there's plenty of online matches. And the majors are coming up. Plenty of non-laggy online matches. still coming up. Which I can't wait. Because I think Heretics versus Optic round one is going to be a banger. I mean, you underestimate that Spanish fan base.

I mean, you have two colossal, you have Optic and then you have all of Spain. Yep. So it's like if you remember back in the day, the Chai used to be getting spam with Vamos whenever Heretics is playing. So I think you have these two, in my opinion, like powerhouse teams facing off. Heretics are surprising the world right now. They're riding this high. We have the Green Wall coming in.

Like I feel like the round one matchup is going to be so hype. fly to Boston and get to experience it. I'm just, I'm excited for it. Yep. You too, man. I'm hyped too. So definitely check out this weekend,

uh, the Boston major going down on all of the, uh, the YouTube channels, Methods, and also Scump. And, uh,

I guess you can watch the main broadcast too if you'd like, uh, listen to a Maeven's sexy voice. All right guys. Well, thanks good, thanks for watching. That's going to do it for Optic,

the Optic podcast episode 159. We will see you in the next one. Thanks for watching.