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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, welcome, welcome to episode 149 of the Optic Podcast.
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it this year on the watch party all right and a giveaway four do you miss a watch party do you
do I miss it yeah I can't fucking wait for the league to be back when do you think the first one
that wins it's December 8th December 8th yeah I can't
I think I have something going on December 7th.
I love that shit.
Huh?
I said, I bet you do.
Why?
I mean, come on.
What was fun?
I mean, I get to sit there.
I literally get to do everything that I like to do.
I get to sit there, watch Cod at the highest level, be with the boys, you know, be chilling, be on stream.
I love being on stream.
That's your thing?
Everything that I love doing.
Amen.
One place.
We, I guess we can start with the saddest news.
I think in the history of Call of Duty, in my opinion,
or definitely one of the saddest.
It's, yeah, it's up there, yeah.
Game Battles is shutting down yesterday
in a tweet that came from Game Battles.
Oh, man.
In a tweet that came from Game Battles,
I said that after careful consideration
and with heavy heart it is our blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
that we're shutting down game battles.
Hold on.
Joey is mad.
Joey, stepping up, my man.
I mean, just look at it, man.
105.4 million impressions.
Five point five million impressions.
And you're shutting it down.
Wait, where?
Right there, 5.5 million, oh, 5.5,000 likes.
Wait, audio, 5.14 million views.
After a careful consideration, we have decided to shut down the Game Battles platform
and service as of January 15th, 2024.
If you have any questions about your accounts or the shutdown, please wait or visit our support.
I can't read with this question.
Wait, Davis's tweet is good.
What is it?
Let's buy it.
I don't have any money.
I don't have any money.
I can tell you that I can tell you that we've reached out.
But I can tell you that it's not going to go anywhere.
I think that this is one of those things that they're just going to offset and it's just going to sunset.
into nothingness
is not going to be put in a vault
never to be seen again
and that to me is one of the
craziest thing
and I was talking about it in the vlog earlier
how you know
there obviously costs
involved in paying for service
and services and the manpower
that it takes but this is a
website that built a community
that helped esports
get to where esports is today
that's a fucking fact
definitely call it due to esports
that's where I started
game battles matches
TDMs Cod 4
That's where I started like that was my first itch of competitive.
So that's crazy.
I personally am very disappointed in this decision simply because the people that are making these decisions aren't part of the community.
We can't.
They're not going to sell it.
They're not going to sell it.
They're going to keep it in a vault somewhere.
I can tell you that with a fact.
And what comes next?
You're not going to like.
What comes next?
You're not going to like.
What I mean?
I'm not I'm not gonna get into the the details but it just opens the door for it just opens the door for everything I mean the fact that next year we only have four events
yeah four majors five five including champs yeah it's kind of fucking whack yeah and and and I I am personally like aggrieved by this right I I have my own bone to pick on this on this whole thing as as it went down but this is one that hurt
me yesterday and I took it fucking personal
because from the
beginning of my new life
which was when I took over Optic
and I started like this, it started in on a
website like this. Who makes this decision?
Like who? The business. The business.
The business unit. Who owned this? The business unit
of Activision. Activision owns it. If you
remember in 2016.
Oh yeah, they merged and you could play like
matches through game. You could play
matches on the game on game battles.
I think it was World War II. Yeah. But I wasn't
playing GBs on that shit.
In 2016
Activision
bought
MLG who was a parent
What were you guys saying over there?
What?
What was you just saying?
World War II, I remember Matt
Matt would play the pro-point matches.
Yeah, I had to.
But you liked it.
No, I didn't.
You were playing with Nikki D and shit, bro.
That was IW.
Oh.
A-W.
Oh, okay, never mind.
I'm thinking about it wrong.
As I was saying,
2016,
Activision bought MLG.
for about $46 million.
With it came the rights for game battles.
And then they shut it down.
And then they shut it down four years later.
And then next year we have like a limited amount.
I mean...
I know that...
I know why they shut it down
because obviously MLG was the number one competition
to Activision, I guess,
from a competition standpoint.
So they acquired it, right?
They just got rid of it?
Three years later.
They acquired it and then killed it?
Alpha move.
So let me ask you this, though, like on a business like mindset, right?
And like, they're obviously making billions.
So what would be operating at a loss or if they are like for it's probably
chump change to them to run this, right?
It's a distraction to them.
It's a distraction.
It has been verbalized as a distraction.
That's why they're getting rid of it.
Even if it was profitable, it was.
still a destruction because you got to realize that Activision, right?
Activision has games that produce millions a day, right?
So anything that isn't producing $250 million annually, minimum, take home, it's a distraction.
Now, obviously, the numbers that I'm giving are a little bit, you know, maybe too low or maybe too high.
I don't know.
I don't know the insight to their finances, but I can tell you that, you know, they may,
The other thing is about this is that whether it was a loss or not, like, I don't, I never saw any effort into game battles to continue to promote it as a thing.
And for somebody to type this out, game battles community, like, it makes absolutely, why, why, man?
Like, you know, two years ago, I wanted to do a collaboration with, like, an MLG X optic collab, you know, like a throwback.
And just couldn't get anywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
and game battles is just like such a legendary staple of our community that it hurts.
I mean, it's got 5.4 million views, 5,000 likes, and it would have more likes.
If people, if there was a dislike button, it would have a disproportionate amount of likes.
Hitch jokingly says to me, heck, let's buy it.
I don't have any money.
I know, I know that they mean well, but like all of this, like, this sort of stuff, like,
it's not funny
like
and I know that they don't mean it
in a funny way
but like this is something that we should
we should rage about
like this is something that we should not be
okay with
because what did they
when the CD
when the CDL started what happened
did call a duty get better
did it
I mean like what
like the call duty league
when they said only 12 teams can participate
in that case no
it didn't really
No, it did not.
It did not get better.
It did not get better.
Did not.
Did the price pools go up?
No.
Did they take us away from Twitch to go to YouTube?
Yeah.
Hasn't been announced yet.
No, no, I was talking about at the beginning.
I was talking about the beginning.
Okay.
We don't know yet if it's going to be on YouTube.
If it does, they're going to kill your vibe.
Your mic.
It'll kill it a little bit.
A lot, right?
Yeah.
It'll kill it a little.
It won't be like.
If they took Halo away from Twitch, would it kill your vibe?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is what happens when communities spring up from nothing.
It becomes a thriving environment, get no help along the way.
They give us a little bit of here and there.
They blessed us with the David von der Haars of the thing and the people who really were about this thing.
But immediately after that, people who have nothing to do with Call of Duty, have never played
call of duty, will never play Call of Duty, just have the ability to make these decisions surrounding a community
that we worked our asses off,
we sacrificed our asses off to build.
And we're supposed to be just cool with that?
Damn.
Pull up that,
the tweet from Charlie Intel
to see what,
what has happened since the CDL came on.
Okay, we just got shut out.
All right.
So the Charlie Intel tweet,
which has 923,000 impressions,
says Activision Blizzard,
but Major League Gaming,
MLG in 2016,
then launched the Overwatch League
and then the Call of Duty League.
Since then, MLG brand is gone.
Game Battles is now shutting down.
And Overwatch League is dead, right?
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like ceasing operations, aren't they?
Seizing, I don't know exactly, and I know that, you know, I should,
but I do a really good job at, you know,
focusing on the, hyper-focusing on the things that are in front of me.
Sure.
And the Overwatch League is like essentially not there anymore, right?
Period.
bad and like a bad omen for like the CDL kind of.
Yes.
A predictive?
Yeah.
Yes it is.
Damn.
I didn't think of it that way.
The thing about that is that it's like it's is, is, is,
hypothetically, if the CDL were to go away and they own MLG were just beat.
Where do we go?
Where do we go now?
I can tell, I can tell you, I can tell you that they're, the, the, the problem, it's like,
where, like, like, if you do your research.
If you do your research, you're going to see what's written on the wall and where this thing is going to go.
Now, as I mentioned before, I have stayed away from owners meetings for a long time because I felt as though everything that we advised, everything that we suggested was in one ear and out the other.
And that is not the fault of anyone there because everybody there reports to somebody and everybody there has to be protective over their job because they have families to feed.
I get that.
but at the expense of what?
Like the league didn't get better when this thing,
like it became a sort of monopoly of sorts
when this thing was acquired to shut down things
that were in competition with whatever vision
they thought they had against all the suggestions
from the endemics against all the suggestions
from people that have been here from the beginning.
They still went through with the stuff.
And it didn't get better.
Price pools didn't get better.
salaries for players, you know, got better, but then what happened?
Like the rebalancing of books came along and people took cuts.
Think about how many professional call-of-duty players exist right now that are not in the league.
They could have a salary right now if it wasn't a 12-person league.
Well, what do you think it should be, 16?
No, I just think that it should be an open circuit the way that it was.
Yeah, it's better.
We never got a chance to develop call-a-duty e-sports into what it could have been.
You know, if CDL falls through,
mm-hmm.
You trying to run this shit?
I couldn't.
I own Optic.
No, I'm saying, like, make a league.
Yeah, if we can't, we can't make a league
because we own the team.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it'd be a conflict of interest.
If we are the, the Optic League and Optic Gaming is playing and shit.
That's fucking whack.
It's like, we get the, we don't, we don't start the show at 12 on a Friday
and then wait eight hours to close it down at 8 p.m.
Yeah.
thing that goes. And right there already is the integrity of the game has been compromised.
It can't be us, but we would be supportive of this. We are here to say that's the other thing
that gets me fucking riled up. And I know that I'm taking all the airtime and I do want to hear
you guys' opinion, but I just want to say like, for what? In the end, for what? Like we built
this thing and we fuck, are passionate about that. And to be fair and honest, everything that we are
doing here, we're doing it because we love this thing. And we, I definitely intend to be around
the duty as long as I can for as long as I can for the rest of time.
And some of the people who are making these decisions don't just, are temporary employees
of something that are making decisions something that doesn't affect them, but it affects
hundreds of thousands of people who watch it.
Hundreds of players that live on this thing.
Ownership groups that were, I don't know.
They rich.
They don't care.
I really hope that Microsoft, because of the success and the way that they've been running
Halo like have a lot of say in this thing but if you look at if you look at what Xbox owns
you know Bethesda now Activision all the what is it king gaming the astro the candy crush stuff
and all that like they let them operate independently three four three they operate independently of
Xbox right obviously they have their own thing so I really hope that Microsoft like looks at the
community that was built looks at the potential of this community that we build looks at the potential
of this truly become the saddest thing is that we have a fucking
product in front of us that can be successful if it's watered properly.
But we've been at this ship for 16 years.
What is what I say?
They're stopping that watering. I'll tell you that.
They're starting to stop watering and I'm thirsty.
Yeah.
I'm getting too much sun.
And we know what happens when Seth gets too much sun.
Yeah.
He freckles.
Yeah, no, it's crazy.
It is actually crazy that they're just ceasing game battles.
Because that's, I mean, to this day, it's still probably the, I would say it's, it's
It's probably not the biggest tournament provider at this point for Call of Duty,
but it's still up there.
Like, there's always, like, the kickoffs on GB.
Yeah, like, people are checking.
Yeah, they're, like, checking game battles to see if there's any tournaments going on.
So for this to, like, not be there anymore, like, it's just, it completely alters the whole, the whole, just space.
Where other sites are there?
There's, like CMG and.
That's it.
That's it.
Because UMG stopped, too, right?
UMG stop.
UMG stop.
You know because of this.
Wait, UMG was the first wager site?
360.
Yeah.
UMD was the first like cash money match.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so lit.
Like,
that's so lit.
Just that, like, bro, there's people playing switcharoos and fucking.
What is a switcheroo?
Like, so me and Seth will be on a team, right?
And then when we get a match, it'll just generate two random players,
the other two people that are also in the tournament with you.
And then do the same thing for everyone.
What is it?
It's called a switcheroo.
Oh, what's the one hosts them?
They're just, like people do that amongst themselves.
Like, it's like a pool of players.
pool of players.
Yeah.
They'll just randomly pick games.
Sometimes they do host them, but it'll be like random third party, like,
sites that will probably get like eight teams, but the kids are trying to win.
You know what I'm saying?
That's crazy.
People that'll do kill races, just one of you want to wager, going to a pub,
whoever gets the most kills.
And that's like people are doing this shit.
Like, I mean.
Yeah, I also feel bad for the people that grinded for top GB ranks because that shit just got
evaporated.
Yeah.
Is that number one?
Visa.
is number one race so right still i'm pretty sure i mean i mean that shit just got evaporated all that
time all that hard work just peace it sucks it is it what's crazy about this thing also you know
what i what how do you feel about that matt i've i've spoken enough like obviously you play gbs
right like halo literally started on that i mean it did i never played jbs on halo though i mean i
I put a lot in cod.
Yeah.
I mean,
it was cool.
It was like lit
when like you'd have like a 2K,
5K on Saturday or something.
Yeah.
Those are fun as fuck.
No,
obviously when I'm saying GB,
I mean now MLG also,
which were like the thing.
And you gotta think,
right,
like I don't even want to fucking
continue to fucking talk about this shit.
Pairs you off.
Yeah,
just even more.
Just like fucking random facto
just come fucking hitting me
and instead of verbalizing
I just want to get this guy's face off the page?
Yeah,
it's kind of checking me,
dude.
Checking us, dude.
In the,
end we don't know like we we're still in the middle of seeing what's going to happen you know like it's it's
you think this is where where it ends this is like the saving grace like what comes next
just slowly but surely just the beginning of the end of call duty and and and and remember remember
for what exactly for what exactly because people resentment no i don't think it was resentment i just
look i believe that hatred no no they hate us
I think that some people had good intentions in the beginning,
but the second that, you know, people did get convinced or convinced that this is the way forward
to have a 12-man league.
Just think about this.
We went from 400 plus teams and excellent fucking storylines to 12 people, sort of getting rid of like,
a lot of pro players, I'm saying this,
a lot of pro players are currently in challengers,
not making as much money as they could be
if they were just on a regular team
that could participate in any fucking random tournament
as it was because it was being broadcasted.
You can't tell me that when CDL said,
okay, this is the pros,
but we're also going to have a challengers program.
Do you think the challengers program was good?
They're literally shutting down the thing
that used to run the challengers program.
So what is the path to pro
that they told us in the beginning
that this was going to help.
That's a good point.
I forgot about that.
Challgers is literally, yeah, that's a good point.
If we do not figure out a way to encourage
non-professional Call of Duty players that have the means,
just I'm talking about talent, to make it to pro,
then the future of Call of Duty is no mo.
I don't know why I made it rhyme.
I apologize.
But it is a fact that we need to be nurturing these young up-and-comers
to continue to carry the torch when legends retire.
Yeah, well, I don't think this is going to affect Call of Duty's esports scene immediately,
but it's going to slowly deteriorate it like now, in my opinion.
Because now the only thing is the league.
And the league, like, they really did, I mean, like, they don't really do that great of a job
of even like trying to keep themselves alive
because they just fucking do everything
that we don't want.
So I feel like, I feel like it's been like on
like personalities for a while now
to like keep the league alive.
It's like not,
the league's infrastructure is not what's keeping it alive.
It's like teams,
storylines, all that.
And yeah, you're right.
If the,
the challenger scene doesn't have that filtration system
where people can go in there,
see the top seeds,
see who's good,
like how the fuck are they going to see?
who's even good
unless like me, Zuma
or someone's like sitting there streaming them
nobody watches the challenge of stream already
but like I
I don't know dude
I fucking
I don't know what this is
I feel like it's going to slowly deteriorate
like the CDO
yeah but what is fine
let's just say for theoretical sake
and again
I don't go to team
owners meetings has been a long
long time maybe two years
maybe two and a half years
yeah
listen
I'm not going to
fucking waste my time
my knowledge
and my advice
on a wall
and it's not even
I'm not insulting the people
that are listening to
us giving the suggestions
because they have bosses
that they have to report to
they themselves are
almost victims
of the same machine
that is
ruining what we work
14 years to fucking build
slowly but surely
but surely
but the thing is
I was like, fine.
They already got rid of OWL.
They're saying, what's next?
Let's take out game battles.
Who, what's next?
CDL and the crosshairs.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, dude, they're taking them out one by one, bro.
But my thing where I was going, and I know that I'd take a long time to get to my point, it's my nature.
I'm a storyteller.
What are you going to tell you?
Where I was going with that is that, fine, let's say that theoretically, the CDL will suffer the same fate as the OWL.
What are the plans after that?
Right?
Because what are the plants after that?
What are the plants after that?
How?
Where's Colorado doing?
Are we going to be able to be allowed?
It's like apocalypse events that we just like have to keep enduring.
You know what I'm saying?
Like imagine the CDL goes away.
It's like fucking, it's like the day after tomorrow.
We got to scrounge up.
We've got to scrounge up a league.
Fucking try to get it operational.
Telling you, bro.
Well, listen, I haven't been in business owners meetings.
I have spoken to several owners on what we, like just ideating what, what, like,
I just don't know what the fuck else to do.
Ignoring apocalyptic events, Seth, was a good segue to go towards the next and the fuck
off this fucking topic that's hurting my fucking soul.
Maddie, bring up syndicate's Twitter.
Something that's happened in Iceland, Seth.
It is an apocalyptic type of event.
Oh, I saw like 200 earthquakes or something like that.
A thousand, 1,200 earthquakes.
Like, bro, rocky.
In 24 hours.
Not two, not three.
1,200.
But look at what Tom said.
This is crazy.
So in Iceland right now, the town has been cracked apart with what could be an active volcano below it.
And I was like, wait, I recognized that spot, L.O.L.
Turns out it was the exact same spot that me and my girlfriend went to jump on this gigantic bouncy ground.
So I think it was Tom in his heavy boots
But look at the crack
Go to the crack
Nope
Boom
Oh my God
Oh shit
Drona midamband
1311
2023 look at that thing
Yeah wait
That's like a fucking
That's a fissure in the earth
Yeah
That's like fucking cataclysm wow type shit right there
Yeah I don't know what that is
In the Barrens
I've seen Matt play that game once
He was flying around on a horse
Or a dragon
Yep
Dragon
And then I'm like
I'm like who are you
That's like 90 characters on the screen.
Who are you?
He's like me, watch this.
It's a magic.
Magic.
It's a cool.
Matt,
why don't you bring up the 1,200 earthquakes or?
Crazy, dude.
Listen, not too.
Is it a super volcano though, under it?
It has to be.
If it's a super volcano goes, then we're all dead.
No, that's not true.
Yeah.
Yellowstone is a superiors.
If Yellowstone erupts, we're all dead.
That might turn into a tsunami.
If Yellowstone doesn't, if a yellowstone erupted tomorrow, you'd survive.
Oh, yeah, we'd be fine.
We're dead like...
Are we actually?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like you know, yeah, look how high-you-hmm.
Like, I feel like he knows the shit.
Bro, a super volcano is like world ending.
That would, you didn't get him cause a tsunami?
I don't believe in the world ending.
Okay, that's funny.
Bro, it will alter the rotation of the earth.
That's my worst sphere.
We'd be, we'd die immediately.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know about it immediately.
I think we're in the radius of a super volcano.
Yeah.
What, Matt?
Um, yeah, but yes, Seth, it's, you know, lava burns.
If it's a normal volcano, it's whatever.
Yeah, but like, dude, we're so far away from me.
Where's Yellowstone, Colorado?
We're close.
We're a lot closer than we were when we were in fucking Chicago or Pennsylvania.
But, you know, in Pennsylvania, you are within the range of missiles from certain countries.
Texas, however, I think we're pretty good.
You're just fucked everywhere.
Imagine the ash in the air, Yellowstone.
Yeah, that's what he's talking about.
Dude, yeah.
You wouldn't be able to read.
There'd be no sun.
There'd be a nice age.
Yeah, yeah.
There's going to be no sun.
We'll be able to grow anything.
All right.
You've seen the Martian?
Yeah.
Matt Damon.
Okay, we could start shitting.
And shitness.
This would be okay.
Look at this.
We just falling apart out there.
Grindavik.
No, that's wild, man.
Like the ground.
Wait, go back, Matt.
What is that steam?
I'm sure scientists have never seen that back there.
Yeah.
Volcano steam?
Spokaneos steam.
You also have to realize that government officials will keep it from you so that mass panic
No panic.
Yeah.
Well, also, like, there's no way that there's a super volcano under ice.
I don't know where they all are.
Wait, Matt.
You would know about that.
No.
Yeah, we would.
No.
There's just a dormant supervolcano?
You think people don't know that?
Let me ask you this.
Do you know where you're going to get a pimple?
It's a decent point, but I don't think it's...
That's not how it works, though.
Pimples are...
Pimples are sudden.
There's 20 super volcanoes on the planet?
That's bad.
I thought there was three.
I thought there was three.
I'm not going to hold on.
There's 20s.
It's kind of insane.
Give me a list,
please, Macro.
And Yellowstone's number one?
I told you,
man.
Yellowstone will kill everyone.
Dude,
what the fuck?
Yellowstone will kill everyone, man.
Look,
we are the verge of World War III.
We don't know the fate of Colorado duty.
We have one close to us.
What is vows?
Valleys?
Valles.
Matt, on the right,
Super Volcanoes explained?
We have one close to us.
Yeah.
What's valleys?
What's Valleys?
USA.
Do we have to meet the United States?
the Guatemala one is
crazy because
if that shit goes up
man
sitting there like
worrying about my fucking sage
running it down right now
there's super volcanoes and shit
this guy's throwing every game
there is
where are you from
by yellowstone
but we'd be so foxed that
you understand
oh man we are nothing
bro
I hate thinking about shit like that
we do not deserve planet Earth
this is
One day it's gonna fucking
One day it's gonna show us
That it runs shit
It showed the dinosaurs
If you
It showed the dinosaurs
And that shit wasn't even on earth
That shit came from space
Yeah that was just like an
There's earth shit that can take us out
That was a fucking
Like
This is on our planet
Today mother nature is gonna bite back
After we've killed everything
We fucking
I mean if
If
If we scathinged everything
You say
Consumed everything
You say mother nature
I say
simulation. I'm fine with that.
Pull me out. How was the experience? It was
pretty good, actually. Mad Max. You imagine
you wake up, you're like, oh my God. You're like the
Matrix, they pull the thing out of the back of your neck. You look over
and you see fucking Seth and emboes and you're like, what the fuck? You guys are real
people? Why don't we hang out of this thing?
In a simulation. If you take
off your goggles, you're still you? Yeah, I checked
out for a second. I was thinking about Mad Max
and how the guy drank fucking milk.
Milk?
Well, that's the thing.
I love milk. Just try
to remember what happened.
At the beginning of 2021, when COVID happened, all toilet paper was gone.
Toilipaper, not rice.
Bro, that shit was crazy.
I was everyone's turned to toilet paper.
They're so dumb.
Everyone thought, I'm just going to shit on the ground.
I wouldn't give a fuck.
Wait, look, so there is lava.
So there's definitely a volcano activity going on.
State of emergency and I have volcanic corruption likely after 4,000 plus earthquakes.
Fourth, wait.
Not 1,200.
4,000.
Wait.
On average, the Los Angeles area in California experience close to 15 earthquakes a year.
Fact check me.
I might be talking out of my ass.
I do say dumb shit.
I am human.
So they think this shit's about to blow.
It's happening now with red alerts.
Looking like lava too.
It's not arrows.
That's lava moving in your direction.
This is like that don't look up shit.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I'm talking about.
This is him trying to tell us right now.
And everyone's just.
ignoring him, dude.
People are sitting here doing fucking podcasts.
That guy looks like he's tweaking, bro.
That guy looks like he's tweaking.
He looks like he's fucking tweaking.
He's like the scientist that like figured it out too.
No, but I'm trying to tell you guys.
No, but think about it.
Yeah, we are.
And this is like the, where we're at as, as a race, as human race.
Matt was like, you know, I'm over here worried about running sage or some shit.
What the fuck it was that you said?
Like this is actually happening and it's a, it's going to affect everyone.
Yeah.
Is it?
I mean, it's definitely going to affect.
10,000 earthquakes?
Well, it'll...
Oh, okay.
You couldn't.
You were so off.
Oh, no, there's 12, there's two to three big ones.
I thought it was like 12 big ones.
He was so off.
He said 15 a year, Matt.
Yeah, but look, I wasn't, I wasn't so confident because I told them to check it.
That was a crazy, like, fucking thing to throw out there.
And now, I obviously was talking about major earthquakes, right?
Not about.
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, if it happens in Iceland, like, it's not going to affect us, right?
Like, Iceland's going to be pretty chalked, right?
Well, okay, let me ask you this.
Like, dash you off camera, Ted is like repeating what formal said.
I mean, like, do you want to come to content tomorrow?
How bad is it?
I expect you to be.
Should I bugger down?
Yeah, look, I think, I think, let's not get too crazy now.
But if you're, listen, if you are a prepared person, you know, I'm not saying a doomsday
prepper per se, but halfway there, someone that, you know, can.
You ever seen the movie Greenland?
Yes, love that movie.
Do you think there's a place like that?
A hundred percent.
Isn't that Russell Crow?
A thousand percent.
That exists right now.
George Butler.
Oh, it's Butler.
My fucking, my friend, fucking Flair, fishing with Flair, Andrew, he built a silo.
Like, he's ready.
He's got a silo that has like five stories.
Everything that you see in movies will eventually happen.
That's the life imitate art.
uh con a conundrum theory or whatever i mean conundrum no conundrum is a it's more of a
situation that you are in in which choices
don't lead to a way i don't know that'd be a cool gamer type
conundrum i'd be scared of war i'm in a conundrum if i do this thing that could happen but if i
don't do the thing that i want to do then that will inevitably fucking happen
fuck are you saying that's what i'm saying um okay
Matt, bring us back.
I do want to ask you, Mbo's, if a national, natural catastrophe happens, are you prepared?
Do you have sufficient rations in your home?
You don't have like two bags of rice?
I'm not prepared.
I'll go, I'll just join the, like I go outside masked up, what everyone else is doing.
I got to get food.
They're going to be all out for themselves, though.
It's going to be crazy.
They're going to have to go.
I know.
It's the risk you got to take.
shit, I don't know. I'm going to have to like,
I'm going to knock on my neighbor's doors
stick them up. I know you're my neighbor, but shit.
What about you? Are you prepared?
Seth? Huh? Are you prepared?
Yeah, bro. I know that she's,
you don't.
Yeah, everything's safe in Canada. No planes, bro.
There's no planes. There's no internet. The solar
flares. The solar flares.
Matt, did you hear about the solar flares that are going to happen?
They're going to wipe out the internet for about
three months?
I hear about that either?
He's made that shit up.
Okay.
It's going to wipe out the internet for three months?
Matt, Matt, hit him with it.
That sounds like a fucking...
Oh hit him with the music.
Hit him with the facts, Matt.
That sounds like a...
That would be bad, wouldn't it?
Solar Superstorm.
Let me read this, Matt.
Well, that sounds crazy.
Solar Superstorm.
Solar Superstorm could wipe out the internet for weeks or months.
Scientists say...
Now, I will tell you,
scientists are usually called alarmists.
Like when, though?
CDL's chalked.
Oh, my God, actors is probably like that.
There's no land.
You need internet.
There's no land on these games.
Have, like, campaign speed runs.
It's, it's been fake land for, like, years.
Campaign speed runs for who?
What?
We can do land.
We can do land.
Oh, no, we can't even do land.
You can have to go back to PS4.
Split screen, twos.
Yep.
All in one screen, four screens.
Everybody just got to shut up to the event to watch.
One big monitor.
Hell of delay.
Oh, you'd be nasty at that.
You're a five MS demon, bro.
I'd be running that league.
How can we protect electronics?
So he and his team,
I don't know what you in the sun is,
Liz,
all right, man, I just want to prove.
Wait, when is this, though?
When?
I don't think you can predict.
Just says, like, just, I don't know.
That's going to go for the month?
Dude, the thing is,
is that they're estimated
that the internet might be wiped out
for weeks, maybe months.
They're not talking about the fact
that one of those,
solar flare might hit
earth and then we're burnt.
Yeah, I mean, we get by like a fucking
weeks for months, dude, that would be insane.
You gotta get the stretch in?
Why are you looking on my belly?
Can't pay for shit with debit cards.
I feel really hard of.
All you have a few mess.
That's going to be bad if that happened.
Yeah, he called me happy.
No debit cards.
No debt, yeah, nothing.
That shit's just gonna be fucked.
Cash is back.
Wait, what happened?
Better walk around with some cash at the bank.
If the internet turns off.
So all my investments should I should turn into gold?
I should start buying gold and silvers.
Various metals.
Just metal industry.
Zini, I fear the time has come.
I feel it's come.
I'm doing all your wanked to silver.
I got to get off, man.
I just instantly started laughing.
No.
No.
Hector, do you?
Why do you?
Why do you?
Why do you say, really?
No, I don't know.
When you say actual gold, what do you mean?
Like, bars of gold?
I can't, I'm not going to discuss how prepared.
I'm not going to, hey, listen.
I've been hiding it this whole time for a rainy day.
I'm a...
When the world gets set back and coppers and silvers are our only currencies.
It's like, how big of a wallet do you need, right?
To carry...
Oh, my God.
De Lanisters are going to fucking rise again.
This is actually a real thing, though.
Like people like that are afraid of like Y2K and shit, they actually like buy gold because gold is it's good investment.
Yeah.
It's a precious metal that aliens have come here to collect.
And there's only a finite amount.
Dude, imagine the amount of dopamine people were getting during the gold rush.
Like finding gold.
Oh.
Like in San Francisco and shit.
They had pickaxes and shit.
You're just running out of the pickaxe.
Well, killing your homie when you find like a huge pile of gold.
With the pickax.
Hit him over the head with a pickax.
Just fucking.
While he's wiping his brow, you're just like, dude, we just fucking struck.
I found it.
Fucking.
I found it, mate.
And then just, who's like, what's your business partner in this?
Uh, shit.
Yeah, thank you.
You know, the people who get like diamonds and shit, do they really mine them naked?
Well, the reason that they mine them naked.
Because they can't steal it, right?
No, so, yeah.
So you couldn't hide the gold.
You found it, right?
Yeah.
So people, let's say you own an acre of land.
in which people are finding diamonds and gold.
You hire people to dig it out for you.
You give them a salary.
The reason that people mine for those naked
is because what people do is they shove them up their butt
to walk away with it and then shit them later and then wipe them down.
Walking out with gold in your ass is insane.
I wonder how that would feel.
Talk about shitting nuggets, not I mean?
Oh, man.
All right.
You ever seen the Dave Chappelle skit?
Yes.
Makes my dukey twinkle, mine.
Goldschlanger?
I don't remember what it was.
When he's doing the Cribs episode?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a good one.
That is, I mean, the whole show is, he never missed.
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MonoWR43 released.
What are your thoughts so far, formal?
Have you been playing it?
I haven't played it.
I just watched it.
I mean, I don't need the game to be good.
I mean, I don't think the game looks that good.
I think it just looks like my perspective of it,
just from like an outside thing.
Like, I don't need, like,
it just looks like they're making like Cods to make Warzone good.
I feel like that's all they give a fuck about.
Yeah.
I was watching a busy scream yesterday before I fell asleep,
and I was just like, dude, this is like insane.
The spons are so bad.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you can just totally put no effort into it.
Dude, wait till you see this.
Have you, have you scrimmed Harpo yet?
Dude, they're so bad.
It was horrible.
People are like falling off of each other.
You'll run.
You're running up to go to the hill.
You get shot in the back.
And by him.
They'll just spawn behind you.
And they'll kill you.
They'll trade their own kill.
And then you'll trade your own kill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No bullshit.
You trade your own kill.
Abizi was running around getting a kill,
then 1 a 180 and looking at his back as he ran to the hell.
Sub base?
I don't think,
you know crazy that is?
I don't think we ended a single sub base hard point over 150 points,
but we were winning every, like we were winning it.
So like we win like $113 to 80.
Like, dude, it's just madness.
There's no soaking.
Like it's just you don't win 250 to whatever.
It'll be like 110 to 100.
Dude, it's a blackout.
Okay, so back to your question.
You can't read anything.
So you're just, you're saying like your heads on swivel the whole game.
Like you are not comfortable ever.
You're just.
It's cool they put like maps in that people.
People like these maps, right?
Back in the day.
Yeah.
Like terminal and shit.
I recognize that map.
The thing is, bro, is like.
Well, finish your point real quick.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I was going to say it just looks like with the one with the gunsmith and like, you know,
I'm looking at the skin.
and shit, I'm just like, this is just like, they're just preparing for war zone.
Like, you level your guns now, you get your camos, you get everything ready for war zone.
Like, there's no ranked, right?
No.
Like, okay, if there's ranked off the rip, if there's spawns off the rip, then you can say, like,
they actually gave a fuck this year, but it's just another year where they just don't give a fuck.
It's the same thing every year.
They drop the game.
The CDL starts a month after.
Then it's like CDL, CDL, CDL.
The holidays hit, New Year's, all that shit.
And then Warzone usually will drop a round.
when the CDL starts.
Like,
Warzone will probably drop like, what,
December?
They said season one,
like December 5th or something like that.
Yeah, like early December,
which is when the CDL starts.
And then New Year's,
all that shit.
And then the game starts to like slowly die out
and then they release rank.
And then everybody's like,
oh shit,
ranks out.
Let's go play Cod again.
Yeah.
And then ranked will like keep it like stable
until the end of the CDL.
And then once the CDL ends,
there's like a couple weeks of people still caring
about like Cod,
roster mania,
all that shit.
And then it falls off a cliff
and then they want to release.
What's the same shit?
the point of playing pubs right now like um oh i was camels right amos yeah like just camels
because there's no leaderboards right no okay they haven't had leaderboards in forever they don't have
you just like prestige or some shit to get your cams you get the 55 and how long they take you get you
505 dude take you like a day two days yeah like two days and then what are you supposed to do like
like this cammo's ragers or scrubs and they just gave you maps so you just like wouldn't bitch
about and hopefully it hits some nostalgia that you're just like no i love this map what and people
are so fast they get from one side to the other and mock speed you'll kill someone playing
Whoa, I just died from mid-haul?
Yeah.
How the fuck did he get there?
They're probably not fucking built for that shit.
These maps are some old shit.
Overall, though, the gunplay is actually...
The gunplay in the time to kill is actually good.
And I actually like searching this game, too.
Besides Terminal, Terminal's kind of...
Like, Terminal is...
It's one of those maps.
It's just like...
Everything is like...
There's like two maps where you could like spread.
On Terminal and Skid Row, if you're not hitting something on offense,
you're not winning.
around. Is there red dots?
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
I mean, like that's insane.
Red dots, dead silence.
That's good.
But hard point spawns are my ass.
I don't think anybody's played control yet.
There's got to be something wrong with that.
There's always is.
Control is always fucked at the start of the year.
They're like, we're to, we're a crazy spawn trap.
I mean, can we just talk about the small meaningful glitch that happens where you go into a private lobby and every single.
Oh, yeah.
You have to change the perks in every single.
Well, the theory on that is that if you don't actually have it unlocked in public matches, that's why it resets.
I don't know if that's been debunked yet, but that's like the theory going around.
So if you have everything on mind.
Yeah.
Ah.
I don't want to get started on that.
I actually like, I actually do like the game, though.
Like, I can already tell it's going to be way better than last year.
They just got to, I mean, if they don't tune spawns, hard point's going to be insane to watch.
But, like, search.
at least search is going to be good this year
like search is going to be fun this year to watch
every map's crazy
yeah
Terminals like I would say terminal's probably the best map
and even that map's crazy like dude
you'll be you'll spawn bottom Eskis on like the dreams hill
and they'll just spawn right next to you plane
and it's like you just like
there's so many parallels it's crazy
you know an invasion defense
bro there's a hard point in the house behind you
so
if you go like if you
I have one chance to fight that hit the
you might as well just go back
it's literally
had good sentence
yeah
two of them
shit on them
I mean I haven't played it so it could be godlike
search is hell of fun though
like search is actually fun in this game
I am personally like because you can make fucking plays
dude last year I'm sitting there like
dude I can't even make a fucking play right now even if I want to
I can't do anything you got to wait for my
my daddy. Pop that shit. Now I can make a play. Oh, I just got bad timing. There's my daddy.
Oh, now I'm stuck for another round. Yeah. Dude, that shit was so bad, real.
But this year, at least you have permadetti.
I personally think it's one of the best games that's come out in a long time. I love that
they fucking brought back some old fucking maps. I am having a fucking blast. I'm thinking about
playing it right now. I miss playing it as we sit here right now. It's like all the little
things that like just piss me off, dude. Like, why are there no prestigious? Why is there
not a leaderboard. Like, why?
Why? Like, why? It doesn't
make sense. Everything else is, like, pretty
good for the most part. In terms of
like the public side of the game, like, competitive,
there's obviously some shit, but like,
why not give us that?
Like,
it's just weird.
It's like, it's a weird thing to not give us prestige.
Because everyone wants them.
I don't know what kind of data on the back end is.
Oh, I'm going to try to find out.
Yeah, I don't know what dad on the back end is giving them the idea
that they should level cap us
the first week of the game.
Like, dude, that's when everyone's going to be playing.
Why would you level cap the first week of the game?
It makes it.
I don't care.
What do you mean level cap?
What do you mean level cap?
You can only get to level 55 right now.
You can't go past it.
Why?
Exactly.
What about the grinders?
Exactly.
You're just doing it for camos.
You can get the camos still, but that's it.
I mean, one of the, again, you know,
one of the best things about Call of Duty,
at least from the launch states,
was the race to prestigious.
And a lot of good was done through race to prestigious.
We raised around $400,000 with the help of the Calduty Endowment, fucking excellent program.
I feel honored to have had the opportunity to work with them.
But that's all gone.
You know what I'm saying?
Like all of the things that made the community, the community, slowly were plucked away
little by little to what end?
Like to one end.
I understand if we sacrificed game battles.
I understand if we sacrificed MLG, I understand if we sacrifice prestigious, red dots,
I would understand if we had a good product.
If we had a good product that was a sustainable thing that pointed towards a bright future,
if we worked hard enough, we don't even want it for free.
We want to work at it.
We want to feel as though we built it.
For what, though?
In the end, truly for what?
Excuse me gambling stats.
Does you believe this shit?
No.
$2.6 billion in gambling money?
No.
Think about that.
A million.
Okay, just think about it like this.
I always think about numbers.
He's betting $1,000 a spin on roulette,
or not on roulette, on slots, right?
A thousand thousands is a million.
A thousand millions is a billion.
You're telling me that he has spun.
How many fucking, a thousand's a million,
another, a thousand times a thousand.
That's a million spins to hit.
Oh, I don't know if that's true.
That's a lot.
Dude, that's so hard.
many spins. Well, is it capped at a thousand? Yeah, I think a thousand's the cap.
2.6 billion? That has to be like overall. There's no way, right? No, it says overall. Gambling stats show
that he has gambled 2.6 billion. I don't know. There's no way. I would more be,
I'd be more interested to see what train wrecks is. His shit was insane. He showed his.
It's above that. It's above that? I think it might be like 14 billion. Maybe it's counting wins plus
the spins.
That's what I was.
I think that's only saying how many spins he's bet, not his wins.
Only spend it.
What is that saying?
5111-11 wager since he showed his last stats 20 days ago.
$1 million wagered.
So it has to be, yeah, wins too.
How much does he gamble, though?
It has to be showing wins to.
I want to see train wrecks.
I don't think X-C-C-Gam-I.
I actually don't know what he's doing off-ray-in-but.
Number of wins, 87,000 total bets, 887.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Do the math right there.
Let me do the math right there.
Keep that up,
Correct. Yeah, number of loss, add the number of losses plus the number of bets.
Hector, I was not born yesterday, buddy.
No, I'm going to do the number of bets and just times it by a thousand.
Well, he's also doing, no, he's not just doing thousand dollars.
He's also buying $100,000 bonuses.
Yeah, you know what, $70,000 and shit.
You don't know, you don't know what split which way.
Oh, yeah, that's fair.
He's just sparing $100,000.
Because a thousand times that is $887 million.
Honestly, like, think about it.
If say he buys 10 bonuses for $100,000, that's a million.
and that could take five minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
A thousand of those is doable.
Yeah, that's doable.
It's doable.
I could do it, he says.
Fucking crazy.
I have no idea, though, what he's doing.
I mean, that's fucking, I just, that number.
That's insane, though, to read, yeah.
The only thing is I don't, like,
like, how real, like, is,
how real is, like, is this legit?
Yeah, it's legit, dude.
Like, there's no one on the back end,
pulling strings because he's partnered with them,
none of that.
I don't know.
But they might give them some bread to gamble.
They can pull that shit out if they want.
They can pull that shit out if they want.
They can withdraw it.
Interesting.
The GGCS tournament, our tournament that we're participating in, $150,000.
You know, our commitment to call it duty will remain steady and strong for as long as we can help.
What is that end?
So there's two weeks
So we just played our first weekend of qualifying matches
There's another week next weekend
There's two more days
And then I think there's like a big tournament
At the end of it
How many teams are in it?
I think 16
There's two divisions
I think the top two from each division
Play each other for like 20,000 or something
Or 10,000 something like that
And then there's a big tournament
Like a $100,000 tournament at the end of it
something like that
yeah it's been fun we're three and one
we are oh and three
we're one and three we forfeited one because it was too late
and i wasn't one and three really they played us i mean zan gave me three
last map i saw that what he texted me like i gave you three
he was tight
yeah i saw that clip of fucking you tell and courage to throw some of the else
yeah i had to he he was playing shotsy and the one of you was he yeah i'm like
pro do not look for
him oh my god you're not that was a smart fly you look for him your dad yeah just
brus oh my god god yeah just bro i saw a couple of courage dying to shotsie and it looked insane bro
on scrapyard it looked insane dude even you got killed by a demon oh my god like i'm like
i'm like you go first let me see if dashy comes out you know what i'm saying uh man i told embo's
don't don't don't come down the middle i'm gonna give you a haircut hair cut yeah you did kill me the
first kill do i thought the match is gonna go great with uh shati uh because uh because
Literally round 1, zero, zero first map, Jack kills Shati off the rip.
I'm like, what?
Ooh!
Think someone bet on that?
Like 100 to 1 odds?
Courage kills Shotsy off the rip of the map.
I was surprised that Zinni was playing so many credds.
You know what I'm saying?
Are you?
I would turn a corner and I'd be like, no, I'm not, why would I.
That's all Zinney does.
Why would I look there?
He's a iron fighter.
And I'm like this.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
Zini is a head glitch merchant.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Mercenary?
He is not on a head.
He's never not on a head.
I had listen I had so much fucking fun though I don't you're team uh me old men of optic plus
murk so me diesel hutch and murk if they tried they'd be good I would run their team I was trying
I was trying like I can't speak for my friend I guarantee you if you use guns the whole team and try
you will win I know I know that I can up right now and just start running diesel has the confidence
Merck
I think Merck was like
taking it too easy
because he's fucking Mark
so he could have done his thing
Hutch
is the first one to give up
Yeah Hutch
I love him dearly though
I love him dearly
I wouldn't have him to change
My chap
Dude actually like I slid
I slid cancel Hector
Back fucking dude
He didn't even react
No
I'm like
I was like
I literally was on terminal
We were on defense
I ran at Berger
Killed Mike
And Hector was back
library just laying down
I like slide canceled the corner
and I just see him pop up and I three bulleted
He didn't even show you bad?
Didn't even shoot I tried too
I tried though
Oh it's okay
You know what's fucked up about that
Is that okay
What's the fucked up about that is that
I got called duty timing there
Okay
I'm like this I'm just sitting there
And I'm like what the fuck
It's no action so I picked up
And then as I was going down he appears
And I'm like ah
So I pop up again
And I instant died
And I saw Seth and I'm like
Oh in this game it's three gun beat down
Oh yeah
What?
It's three hits.
So unless you have a camera.
The gun spikes insane.
I'm drop shotting while punching.
I hit somebody twice yesterday when I was so mad.
I had somebody twice.
I think I heard you say that.
You have to punch them one three times to kill them?
I was like it's fucking three?
You have to hit them three times.
Does it like fuck them up if you punch them once?
Is it even possible with three punch somebody?
Yeah, kind of fine.
In this game.
Yeah.
It's huge in this game.
It's like a machete.
Bro.
No,
not huge.
Oh.
And you turn around and hit the stairs with a knife out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's on NW20.
It's, like, a little bit slower than MW2,
so you can actually, like, you can actually, like,
run at someone and knife them.
Like, if someone has an AR, you can just run them down.
That's so scary.
Like, they're close.
You could run them down with a knife.
Yeah, like, if, so say they're, like, on the opposite side of a head glitch
and you're, like, snaking it or something,
you can, like, you'll have time to, like, get around them.
And, like, knife.
I'm really good.
Yep.
Well, that's how I died most of the time.
Yeah.
You're shit on repeat?
I've got that.
I've got knife multiple times.
The thing is, like, what's going on?
My team was not trying at all.
They have sniping out and shit.
I mean, you can not even back.
I mean, like, cross-knives and, like, locks.
Can you have to spam beat each other?
Yeah, because they're carambets.
Wait, that's kind of cool.
Yeah, they're correct carambits.
No, but you have like the...
Holding on by the little fucking egg.
And you just says, like, press triangle.
You're just like, hey.
Carambit fight.
Like, hold you, hold on.
See, I still, I still have to press down on the joystick to knife.
I don't play the cheek shit that you guys do, yeah.
You have a button for it?
I'm not.
I use circle.
I crouch with my analog.
Yeah, same, same, same.
Play tactical?
Yeah, tactical.
Yeah, tactical.
I just see you, but...
Wait, you shoot your back or L and R one?
L and R one.
The little, the bumper, you do bumper jumper?
Yeah, I play Claw, though.
I don't know how you've been playing Claw this whole time,
how your hands haven't gotten fucked, man.
My fucking fingers.
Oh, his fingers fucked.
What?
Which one?
It's like his nails in the front of the palm.
Callis fucking build up.
Oh, yeah, I can see it now.
Don't kick him, bro.
Yeah, right.
I agree.
Like I said, man, you had that sniper on you yesterday,
and I couldn't do anything but be like, all right.
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