OpTic Podcast - THIS WAS PEAK ESPORTS | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 163

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

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Let me ask you this. Nothing can go wrong. Would you do it? Like, let's say this. This is a conversation when I'm buttered. Because then you got me as your trip partner and I'm going, nightmare, nightmare. That sure is, I was a right, though. The thing is, is like, I don't want to, I don't want to.

So right now, I'm never going back. It was too American. Yeah. The second they say, Baja, I'm like, Baja tacos. I know what that is. She's like cool of fucking like lettuce. Not not lettuce, but it's like, it's got like some mayo aoli and it's got some pineapple in it.

I don't want no pineapple in my shit. That's why I took a great job. So what I was, I don't want to judge it also because it was cold when we were, when we were eating them. But shit. No, it was good, Seth, Taco Sand? Oh, yeah.

Taco Shack? Or tacos, wait, are we talking about Taco Shack? When we all went to? Yeah, he'll stand, yeah. Yeah. That shit was gas. You loved it? Yeah.

Really? Yeah. Well, I like a place with multiple, like, with multiple, with variety on sauces. And they had that. They had creams. They had salsas. They did. Like, I could have done without the pineapple on the Alpaste store.

I could have done with a little less guac on both of the other ones, but the flavor was there. It was nice. At Torchis last night, my stomach is. Yeah, I mean, Tori, that caseo? Wait, I thought, wait, I had never had it, but I hear nothing but good things about it. Bro, their case is. I'm not bad. Torchies.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I heard good things not bad. It's not bad. It's not, it's not bad. It's not, it's not his type of taco way. But when you need a quick, like, taco fix with the queso and the sauce. It's a white people taco for sure. Some of it. I don't get, like, the fried chicken taco or whatever the fuck it is. The trailer part? Yeah.

Extra dirty. You know how fuck on it. Extra trashy. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 163. Pardon the early, you know, pre-talking about some tacos here, but ladies gentlemen, welcome to episode 163 of the optic podcast. This episode is brought to by Shopify, scuff, cheese it, and very heel. And we'll tell you a little bit more about them later on in the episode.

For the time being, we have our usual hosts. We have a man Money Biscuit where maniac usually sits. We have big timer where Embo's usually sits. Seth and I are retaining our spots. We're not playing musical chairs this morning. I feel like a regular now. This is what two weeks in a row on the podcast? I don't know the last time I missed a podcast.

Me either. I'm always on the pod. The only time I miss podcast, I wouldn't know what I have. You're always on the pod too. Yes. Listen. You know who's not? Who?

Zinny. Zinny. And you know who gets mad that he's not? Zinny? Zinny. Really? He said he's the anti-click. He's the anti-click.

No, no, he's not. He's like the anti-click, but the anti-click. That's what he says. No, he says even when I'm in it, they don't put me in thumbnails. I mean, you know, it could be said about a lot of things. I don't, I'm not entitled. I mean, I mean, First, we don't have control.

Who does the thumbnails? Matt? Both. Oh, shit. Maddie. It's Matt Craig. My right hand, man, say something to him. See who shows up to us.

I got your back, Matt. I know that. Who makes the thumbnails? Oh, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, cool. Well, listen, neither here. We have a man. Yo, how's the market, man?

How's the stock market going? What should we be? buying just not financial advice what should you be buying i i don't know i was shorting the semiconductor stocks last week like invidia like the gaming show amd invidia they've been going crazy and that's kind of my strategy you had a 14 000 day didn't you i joked so bad though bro why it was like when i tell you this was like the 2024 equivalent of like the big short moment it was it and i just did not bet enough i bet like 500 bucks and that was it it should have been been the moment. Yeah. 500 turned into 15k. So if you would have

3,000 percent. So what is that? That's 30 X return? Yeah. So if I would have bet like 5 G's even just five grand. That's a six figure day. And I just it's just crazy because like before it happens, even like in the big short before it happens people call you fucking crazy. Yeah. And they're like there's no way this can have it. It was one of those like too good to be true moments. I was up the night before like in the fucking discord like doing math and shit. And I was like wait, could this go up like 30? times? Like, there's no way. And then it It did. You gotta trust your gut, man.

I know. Next time. What do we have, if not the trust of our guts? Wait, so what is that? The semiconductors? What the hell is that even mean? Yeah, what is that? They make chips for like, they've been going up because of AI. Like, they're going to support all the artificial intelligence stuff with the chips. Yeah. That's why they've been going up. Everybody's

hyped for... Connected. For AI. I love AI. AI is a friend. Humans. Have you seen that? You saw the Applevision pro right were you here when we talked about it I was not and I was really upset that my wife nor my kid bought it for me

oh yeah you were in Japan I was in Japan I could have been flying to Japan with my headset fucking watching movies yeah I should have been fine movies tell you saw the videos I don't think it was like the what you can actually do right now but it was showing like you'll be able to

have a conversation with somebody in another language and it will just automatically pop up and translate and just be able to Some of the shit they're going to be able to do with that will be insane. Yeah. I mean, nuts. That's crazy. Somebody paired it with the Dyson air purifier mask.

Did you see that? I don't think so. Yeah, Matt, bring that up. So, so Dyson obviously just recently released a mask that purifies the air that goes into you. And it looks like a Dyson. It's just, it's this metal thing. Look, the good thing is that this iteration right there. The fuck?

Yeah. Wait, so you can see the, like. Oh my God, you're getting rocked, Matt Craig. He was about to get... He's got to do the robot shit. Now he's got to log in. Oh, wait, that's the Dyson thing? Yeah.

What, so it allows you to, like, see the particles in the air or something? No, it's just, no, it just purifies it. But you combine it with that, and now you're looking like you're wearing a natural helmet. You're sort of pointing towards the dystopian future that this guy just mentioned. I can see it. I mean, think about it. This is not a weird look. You have seen this look since fucking the 80s.

Oh, that looks dope. That looks dope. That looks cool, yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, all those gas masks that, that they wear in movies, like, those are for that. Like, this is that. So we're there, right? Period.

And what I was going to go with that is that, like, this is the worst version of it that it's ever going to exist. Yeah, it's only going to get lighter and better. So catch me with the, catch me with this. Imagine when they fit that tech inside a pair of sunglasses. Fucking Oakley. Or some contact. Hey, Oakley, hook it up. Hook it up.

Oakley, let us be your tetest dummies. Coming. Yeah. Big bag. You getting a neuralink chip? No, I saw it were the one person. He did the one person and they fully recovered now. They said they can control a mouse on the computer with their brain.

Get the fuck out of here. A computer mouse, not a little mouse. No, yeah, I know that. I mean, if they can control a little mouse, that'd be crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. Listen, if fungus can do it, I'm sure that AI can do it also. Porticeps?

Yes, Seth, I see you. Is it because you have a caterpillar? No, it's because I watched The Last of Us. Yes, how good was that? Yeah, look, I think we're hitting that age when it's that. And I think, again, I feel very blessed to have experienced the world pre-internet and having my childhood bit pre-internet, but I also love the technological advances that are happening right before our eyes.

Can you imagine what it's going to look like when your great grandkids are alive? This is why I got to not die. Like, I need to get serious about the hell. Because we're, I mean, give it 15 years. It's going to be a different fucking life. Dude, I mean, I'm dead. I won't be able to see it. When we're dead, we're not going to be able to see it.

That's a good point. Yeah. Because imagine going back, just come back three generations. Yeah, I guess it's always been that way. Yeah, if you go back three generations and people see people sitting in a table talking into some stick, they like, they would be like, oh my God, that is fucking crazy. And the whole world can see it. Well, what the fuck does that mean the whole world?

do they see it? Because I can tell you one thing. Do you know how this works? How would you, if you go back to the, if you go back in the past, you will not be able to prove that you're from it. No. Right? Because this is just going to be something. They're going to be like, whoa, that's a cool flashlight. How did you get that image? But even then it's like, how does it work? How does it, do you know how it works? Got no clue how it works. How does a phone call work? Back in the day, you called the line. It went to an operator through fucking cables and somebody said, jeeps, put it in here, goes in there. Now it's in the, it's in the somewhere. Now who does that? In the sky.

Who's doing it? Who's doing it? Kind of crazy to think. Yeah, so like, look. Can someone hear me on the phone? How the fucking someone? Instantly. There's no travel time.

I'd be buttered beyond belief just on the headset. I'm like, yo, it's crazy. We can really hear each other right now. Like, that shit is crazy, though, I swear. Yeah, no, I think, and obviously with the amount of UFO sightings that have been happening in Florida specifically, like, oh, look, the Bermuda Triangle. has always been like off the coast of there, right? So like that, that, that, that, that, that is that off the coast of Florida? Yeah, like, yeah, in that direction.

It's that direction, yeah. It's that direction, yeah. Cuba and shit. That's where that's, Cuba's, like, right next door to, to. Yeah, that's close. Yeah. Right there. Yeah.

Don't be going there. Well. Cuba? No, no, the Bermuda Triangle. Oh. You're going to Cuba? You love me. My favorite food, yeah.

Do you favorite food than Mexican? Who, what's your fucking mouth? Unfortunately, I think so. No. Well, you know, like, Oh shit. I didn't know it was, it's literally right. Damn the triangle. Is that big? I didn't know it was connected to Florida. I thought the shit was in the middle of the ocean and people would just disappear. It's right there. I sailed through that shit on Carnival. That was crazy. So yeah,

that's where it's where it's. So there's a lot of sightings that are happening and it's, we only have to believe that the reason that they're more interested now than before is because of our technological advances. The thing is is that you cannot predict when somebody's going to have a thought that sparks something that advances the, you know, all it took it was an imagination. Look at Steve Jobs, the motherfucker was tripping on acid

when he came up with the iPad. He was tripping? Yeah. Was he actually? Yeah, Matt, right? Steve Jobs was tripping on acid when he came up with the iPad? Or something like that. That's pretty cool. That motherfucker, it was the same year, I don't know if it was true, but I saw it on Twitter.

It was the same year the first iPhone release is when they patented the Apple Vision Pro. Oh, so it's been in the works for a while. Oh, yeah. I was thinking of that. Way back. Yeah.

You know, I mean, it's not hard to believe that you can look. I mean, someone can imagine anything. I mean, look, everything that you've seen in the movies as like, you know, space odyssey or. People are just sitting waiting on the technology to, like catch up. Talking into a phone, into your watch, like, that's reality now, right? Is it good? Is it good as that? Like, I don't personally...

Believe so, but, you know, within two years, like, it's crazy. It's two years down the line and we're going to be living in a complete, like, there's another iteration of this coming next year. But the vision, Apple Vision? Yeah. Has to, right? Steve Jobs, LSD experience, had a tremendous role on his creation of the iPhone. Such a tremendous role that the iPhone had to experience offers.

But look, I mean, it's hard to read because of the fucking text being so small. You got to be careful with LSD, though. Why? If you crack you back the wrong way. You're back in it. You're right back into that shit. I've never done acid. I mean either.

Would you? No, hell no. Why not? They say it puts holes in your brain. Huh? That's exstasy. Really? Exstasy.

And what the fuck does acid? Ecstasy is like taking a little ice cream scoop out of your brain. That's what people say. So I got a lot of scoops taken out. I'm just playing. I haven't taken ice. What about, would you do acid? No.

Why not? Let me ask you this. Nothing can go wrong. Would you do it? Like, let's say this. This is a conversation when I'm buttered. Then you got me as your trip partner and I'm going, nightmare, nightmare. But you gradually turn into the Mr.

Cheez-it. I was on the watch party. They were saying, because we had this in your seat. They said they turn bows into a cheese. They're loving that shit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm an exploratory man. That was from Eric Andre, by the way. I stole that. What? His nightmare, nightmare. Yeah. Eric, Eric,

Andre? I don't know that is. The comedian? Yeah, he's on like adult swimming and shit. He has his own show. That guy's out of his mind. I don't even know what. Oh, yeah, I know that guy.

Oh, that guy. Well, yeah, this is Emily Radikowski's boyfriend, right? That's how I, yeah. He did well for himself. Who's his girlfriend, Matt? Where are you going? taking that away from, man. You never seen the Eric Andre Show?

Nah. It's so stupid. He'll bring like, he brings like whiskey. He'll bring like celebrities on and like interview him. And they're just the trolleest interviews like ever. Like I feel like he was one of the first to market with that idea. Because now you see other people doing it. He was like one of the first.

To do what? Like bring celebrities on and do like a troll interviews. Like like Zach Galaphnakis will do. Yeah. You know who Nardwired it? Yeah. I've heard of him. Yeah.

I've never watched any of stuff. But yeah, I heard of him. Yeah, he was the first to do it. And I just stole that from him. But it's fucking hilarious. One of the topics that Maddie has put on the screen right now is when was Peak Esports? And it was a tweet from, let's see here. It was our own tweet.

And Maddie replied with right here. That is the Hilton Anaheim bar where you see those two tables right in front of the bar. There was escalators right there. There's escalators right there. You don't remember the escalators? man, you must have been on them fucking rum and coax. I was. Okay, you see those two tables that are

vertical? You always took care of those tabs? Yeah. Yo, who did? You did? Some of them. Yo, who remembers what was there before that? Before those tables that were there, what was there?

Hold on, let me think. Was it like a little water, like the river? Yeah, the fountains. You're right. You're right. Oh, yeah. So this is an updated view? Yeah, yeah, this is the updated view.

It's a damn shame Can we have a fucking Anaheim event? No, that's what I was going to say. It's a damn shame that none of the LA thieves, none of the LA teams, shout out LA thieves, none of the LA teams threw an event here for the,

like if I was guerrillas or if I was thieves or if I was Optic LA when they threw that, Optic LA through an event, right, that we didn't go to at the Coliseum or some shit? I don't remember. They had a homestand. Remember when only eight,

Remember when only 18? Oh, yeah, that must have been, well, that was pre-COVID. That was pre-COVID, and we weren't at that one. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, so I thought it was a complete miss to not throw it here. The nostalgia factor alone would have sold all of the tickets that anybody would have needed. I mean, we would have gone for sure.

Yeah, but like the people that watch don't really, I mean, they've heard of it, but they don't, they don't understand the culture. Dude, you got to remember back in 2014, 2015, like kids were still kids and they couldn't stay up late. And now we have fucking booed. and the boys out there fucking getting hammered. They would have fucking love to have been there buying shots for everyone. Hell yeah. Fucking crazy.

Yeah, I mean, it's a magical place. I would say 2017 is my opinion of peak esports. It's right before all the franchising stuff started to happen. This is, you know, up until this point, this was the climax, right? This is what we all worked for. And then, you know, obviously. I said the peak was ghosts. It was either, well, I'm talking about Call of Duty strictly too,

but I feel like just Esports in general around that time was like so popping because you had CounterStrike going crazy, League of Legends going crazy. I mean, StarCraft was still going crazy, right? Was League of Legends? Wait, was League of Legends? That was like towards the end of StarCraft. But so StarCraft was going crazy, Halo. It's the peak for me.

Counterstrike. I'll always say 2017 because we won in Halo. we won a world championship in Call Duty. We won a world championship in Halo. We won a world championship in Gears of War. And then we won the E League season two. And then right after that, we're going to, bro, there was going to be a month in which we won a championship

every single weekend in different sports. Damn. Show mine, Maddie. Show mine. Yeah, show fucking 2013. Goat of goats, man. Yeah, I would say ghosts or AW was the peak. And then it slowly started to, to,

taper off, at least for Call of Duty, in my opinion. I would say the same. Ghost in AW was fucking popping. Wait, that's Halo, in it? I was there. 2009, 2010, Halo 3. You were at that? That's one thing that I never, like, got to do that I wish I was old enough to do

was go to like an old school Halo event like this. Bro, I'm Matt, move your cursor to the middle of the screen. Okay, go down to that green guy. Okay. That's you? No, but I sat there the first time that we went, it was right here. here at the Hilton. Oh, yeah.

At this Hilton? Yeah. No, it was in the Omni. It was the Hilton. Oh. Hilton Anatole in Dallas, right there, right down the street. That's where Eagle, Paul Megna offered me 50K for Optic. That is when...

Never heard that score? Yeah. 50K. Yeah, he's out of you 50K. And I was like, show me. He'll show me. This was obviously like 2010, end of 2010. Yeah.

And I remember me, my brother. went and sat in these in these in these bleachers and then I saw the the love that Walshie Pistola and those are the only two of the stent that they really stand out I don't know who else was on stream but the love that they got I'm like I'm like man this is going to turn into something fucking massive

this is the beginning of something huge yeah here we are we are yeah that was it for me that was a game imagine playing in front of that game shit was probably lit which quit Kats will play HALA Halo 2 or 3? Halo 3. It was like during the COD 4 PCLs.

I was playing more Halo 3 matchmaking and watching this shit than COD. Imagine if it was like more mainstream, you'd be getting roasted. Oh, yeah. Get off of Halo. Go practice God. So good though, man. Dude, Halo 3, I mean. Carbon and Ince.

That might be carbon and final boss? I mean, yeah, those guys were fucking rock stars. They were. They still, like to me, they still are, which is crazy. I went down the rabbit hole the other night. looking at old Halo pros and just seeing what they're doing. It's so fucking sad

seeing like, I know they're just like chilling but like you'll see they haven't tweeted for like five years. Like they're just fucking just normal people. But to me they are still like these gods. I need to go back and start watching like some old halo rebrods back in the day. Yeah, good old days.

I would say 2017 for me though, for sure. That's like the best crowd of the play in front of right there. That little small room would just heads packed in there they see every gunfight everything. Yeah. It was, it was man, magic, magical what Sonny Sepsolo, Anna Mepaella were able to fucking

do. Wow. I don't know who the guy all the way and the right is. Saying. Saying that is. That's what it is. Damn. Well versed. He didn't even hesitate. The first person I knew is T squared. T squared? Yeah. Me Walshie. Really? Yeah, Walsh is the guy that Yeah, Walshie. Yeah, Walsh is the guy that I first

I was like, oh my God, what a fucking hero. He had Caneto. He had a fucking house and shit. I was watching from a townhouse in Schamberg. And I was like, man, USA channel. You're on USA Channel. I was feeding Liv. Like, Liv was like maybe four months old.

I was feeding or watching this thing. I'm like, what the fuck? Crazier shit, man. And with a blink of an eye, with a blink of an eye, we just had a Mavericks night. It was a crazy week I mean I didn't Say the least

I didn't stream the whole week Cause like I'm mad I'm kind of taking the reins here But we had We had Mavs night We had the Super Bowl before that Which like doesn't even feel real We had the Super Bowl

The night before And then it was Mavs night Is got back the night Of the Super Bowl So I hadn't seen her for a week And then we had Sidekicks night What do we have on Wednesday

We had Valentine's Day Like it was a crazy fucking week. For me, at least. It was like day after day, it was like something cool is happening every night. Yeah. It was a fun week. And then sidekicks night and that was kind of the end, I think. And then watch

party was back. I was the sidekicks night. I got to come to the... Yeah, thanks, man. It's fun. You should have came. It's like, it's fun. I won't sell it. I love going to. Yeah. I love going to. Oman's... Where is it? Omen said the same thing. Alan. Okay. The Ellen Convention Center. Oman said the same thing. He's like,

I'm not just saying this because of whatever you got going on, like that shit was fucking fun. And it is because the DJ goes fucking crazy. I knew Seth was not like your music. No, I love it. You go there, you eat chicken fingers, you get a couple of beers in you, and they're playing shit. It's very intimate.

There's not that many people there, so the players can hear you if you want to, like, yell. Oh, shit. They can hear you. So I'm up there fucking, I'm up there screaming at the top of my lungs trying to, you know. Yeah, the DJ's fire. I'm not going to lie. They play all the new upbeat kind of. Yeah.

They do memes and shit. What did he say? Like all that shit. Dude, it's hilarious. You think Riley was back there. Yeah, no, that's the best way to put it. No bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So. Oh. Look at that fucking form, bro. I will say, like, it was, yeah, we had a really, really good time. Yeah, next time we'll drop the kid off at the grandmaws and come through. Yeah, that's my man, Jamie Love Grove. Him? Yeah, him right there.

We did a video with him way during, during Infinite. Me and Hitch played. 2 v2 against him and some other dude. We got our asses beat. This guy Perez, I didn't know until this past Saturday when I had breakfast my dad, that this dude has been, this dude has played for a long-ass time. He played for Juarez. He played for like a bunch of Mexican teams for a very long time.

He's 44. He's my age. And still fucking, dude, like, that motherfucker's a fucking athlete. Big as big as fuck. Agileish style. Anyway, it was a really, really good night. We had a really, really good time. Every time we go, I love it.

Me too. And maybe that's because the first time we went, the first sidekicks night that we went to was kind of the night that I like kind of, not ultimately decided to retire, but like that was like we were heavily thinking about it at that night. And then the next day we went to Korean barbecue and that was it. Yeah. That was the final, that was like the final little window. So, So I kick's night.

Yeah, I went back. I loved it. It's home for you? Yeah, I love it. I have a good time. It's a good time. Eat some chicken fingers, get some burgers in you. Yeah, we have a better record.

Since my ownership announcement, we have a better record than last season. We are two and 12th. Okay. Yeah, we're one in. Why are you smiling? One and 12. That's 100% increase. Last year, last year we were one in 23, so we're in the up and Adam, man.

It could only get better, dude. It can only get better. So super excited about that. Great, great nights, great week. Let's take a quick commercial break. Let's say hello to the sponsors. and then we'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen, part of the interruption,

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and then I knew right there and then that forever and always, they would be one of our premier partners. If you haven't heard already, we've collaborated once again with Scuff to come up with a brand new optic design. This is as important to me as the jerseys program that we have. From the beginning of time, I wanted to make sure that once a year we had a refresh, look at everything that we have done. And with the technological advancements that the scuff has been able to accomplish from way back when to where we're at now, I got to tell you guys, I am not only proud of them as a company, but proud to have been a helping hand along the way, as I do believe

that I was. It's a not to the OG in a great way to rep our teams all across all of our e-sports. You can get this sick design on Reflex for PS5, Instinct for Xbox, and InVision. This particular controller in particular, the InVision is for the PC. gamer as I am. And guess what? Scuff is now selling face split separately for both InVisions and Instinct for only 29 U.S. dollars. If you visit scoff.com slash optic to get yours today. Link will be in the description. Do check it out. It's one of my favorite ones. Obviously, we have the chef's kiss right here with the Optic Gaming logo and obviously the bigger

one to give it a little bit more style. But just know and believe that every single time that we design one of these controllers, I am the final say on whether it's a yay or a nay. Let's go back to the podcast I didn't see I didn't watch any of the NBA All-Star stuff Yeah I don't watch it either Because I just hate how they don't take the

Like I hate that shit It's so whack to me Not to you? What? What do you think I'm gonna say? What do you think I'm gonna say? Like bro, all-star game I want the best players

And the verse the best players And I want to see them go dummy art Oh you're saying they don't try Yeah these motherfuckers are chucking a half-court shot I don't want to see that playing around shit They score 200 points 200 points They score 200

points. It was the final score of the All-Star game. It was 214 to 186. Oh, so they're just not trying. Imagine those numbers are right. My memory is fucking clear as ever. That's fucking ridiculous. I mean, I feel like that's how it is with a lot of All-Star games.

No, dude. When Jordan played 211 to 186, I was fucking close. I was so close. Like a normal time, though. Time limit. Now look at the 1996 final NBA All-Star Game score. Wait, so they just literally don't. They're just...

Yeah. Well, listen, Kobe played against Jordan. Bro, they took it to them, right? Like, it was actual competition. 129 to 118. That's more realistic. That's more realistic because they tried their asses off and they play. Look at the following year.

Look at the year before that. The dunk contest, Mark McClung, obviously he was going to win. That's my man right there. He happens to be... That's your man? No, I don't know, Mac. No, I don't know Mac. But I do know riffraff.

And that's his cousin, so... Wait, really? Yeah. What the fuck? You didn't know that? No. Yeah. Riff Ruff, that's his cousin.

Hiptoeing in my dog. I do like the new, the new, what do you call it? The court. It was all LED. Did you see that? Yeah. I thought it was pretty cool. But I think you can do that already, like just with overlays.

So I don't know if that makes sense. What did they make it? It's just like a fucking fire ass cord. Like you can put whatever image you want up there. Oh, nice. When the Boston dude was going off for the, like they turn it into some Boston courts, et cetera. Like I think, again, I understand that the all-star game is supposed to be for entertainment,

but there's nothing more entertainment than true competition and so who's who. And back in the day, there used to be a sense of pride of standing on business. Famously, one of the greatest of all-time Mr. Kobe Bean Bryant in the Olympics, when he played against, I think it was Gasol. Like he first play, he like not on his ass. You know what I'm saying? That's his teammate. That's what I want to see back.

I want to see competition. Yep, I agree. I saw Stephen A. Smith blame LeBron for ruining the dunk contest. Did you guys see that? No. I didn't see any of this. LeBron's not doing that dunk contest. LeBron will never do one of them things.

Yeah, exactly. Why? It's just too much risk. To do what? He might heard he's saying going up trying to show up. He thought he thought every game before the game. He does a dunk contest for the people. He gets hurt at this All-Star game, you know, that money on the back end might not come.

What, dude? Jordan did it. Dominique Wilkins. There we go. Let's see the clay. Play that. He don't want to. Yeah, you just want to do that.

Yeah. I'm not finished. I'm not finished. When we're talking about the slam dunk contest from 1985 to 1997, five of the 13th stamp dunk contest were won by Future Hall of Famous Jordan twice, Dominique Wilkins twice. Kobe wants. Michael Jordan participated in the contest three times. Dominique Wilkins five times. Every high jumper, every Skywalker, every above the rim talent salivated for the opportunity to compete in the slam dunk contest. It stopped when LeBron James said, I'm not doing it.

And from that point forward, the stars who followed didn't feel compelled to prioritize a slam dunk contest the tradition that was set by others preceding LeBron James Do they're blaming LeBron for it? That's kind of insane. They are, I didn't.

No, I said there, yeah. That's ridiculous. I mean, if the guy doesn't want to do it, he doesn't want to do it. No, you got to do it. The All-Star game? You have to do it. You have to do it. You LeBron James, man.

The All-Star game, yeah, not the dunk contest. He's not, well, he's not dunking no more like that, walking on a warder? Oh, no, no, we're not talking about now when he's the age that he is now. He's never done it? No. Not even in like Prime LeBron.

Bobby Bryant did it. Prime LeBron didn't do it. If I'm LeBron, that's crazy he didn't do it once. If I'm LeBron page. I mean, yeah, but you can't blame it all on him. If I'm LeBron, I'm going to go to that contest and beat Kobe. That's my competitiveness in me says I got to go beat Kobe. But he's like, oh, that's Kobe.

You know what I said? He's not. Yeah, that's what he said. You know what? Maybe he didn't verbalize it, but his action said, he can do all the tricks and shit. He just bring it straight up. That's all he needs to do.

He don't want to go through the legs and off the backboard. He's just coming down court monster, 250. Yeah. You know who did that? You know, who came? If you go back and compare Kobe Dunks versus LeBron Dunks, you're not going to say, oh, LeBron's a book. Kobe was doing that at his height, at his weight.

He was still coming down the court. Yeah, but you could run into Kobe and have foul. LeBron's going to bring levers in front of him down. No, they don't file in this day and age. They don't file in this day and age. They don't file in this day and age. Fowl. No blood, no foul.

So no high profile people will play who. Mack McLung. MacMachlan. The motherfuckin'emuckin'clock jumps like, one of my family. Yeah, he's got springs in his shoes for sure. Yeah, he's crazy. Boy gets crazy. The three-point contest, I think, was there a three-point contest?

or was it just Steph versus I saw some clips of Steph Oh yeah Steph was supposed to wait Did Steph do the shootout versus the girl yet? Yeah He did I saw some clips about that

For real? Yeah She was doing her thing though She got some record Yeah people are saying That she was gonna beat Steph I'm sure And look

She's a good shooter Don't get me wrong In a three point contest I think that It was possible It was possible for sure Yeah for sure It was possible

Because Steph missed He didn't make all of them He missed Yeah you're gonna You can't make all them Yeah exactly She missed Some too, but she could have made the same ones.

You know what I'm saying? It's a 55th? No, not 55th, but you know what I'm saying. Like, that would have been, I mean, I'm, listen, I'm, I'm, I give staff props for for stepping up on there. Yeah, see, that's a risky one. That's a risky one. Not that's a risky one.

Not that, but I'm saying like, you know, if you're. You don't want to lose, period. You don't want to lose. Doesn't matter who is up there. No, that's the one where I'm like, you know, she did her thing, though, man. She, she fucking held her own in front of it. You don't want to do it? The amount of pressure on both was equal, I think.

Why not? She also shot from the NBA three points. Do you want to go back to the locker room and hear that? Oh, yeah, they were probably. They'd be digging. What did Nate say about shower with the? Oh, yeah, he's, I really wanted to Nate's chat. I'm like, your man's small, right?

And then he was like, oh, yeah, Mark. Oh, yeah, it's small right now. Won't catch me in the shower after a big win with the boys. Won't catch me in the locker room in the shower after the big one with the boys. Bro, he's crazy. I like that Nike brought I mean I'm assuming that Nike was the one that created the whole Kaisanat thing

because Nike just sponsored Kaisanat I don't know if they're going to give him his own shoe I don't think or maybe not right off the rip but you know they scooped them up and you know it points to That'd be crazy if if they gave him a shoe Yeah a lot of sneaker

A lot of sneaker people Because Ninja had Ninja was with Adidas right Or he still is? Exactly that's the thing Everybody's talking about like Kaisanaat being like the first influencer that you know A big company got behind but that's not true. Ninja got his actual own shoe

with his logo on the tongue. I was with Adidas? Yeah, with Adidas. So, you know, if you ask me, if you ask me a sneaker enthusiast, okay, a sneaker culture follower, I'm not giving that to Kai. I'm giving that to my man Ninja.

Ninja was the first. Imagine if Ninja. Yeah. Those kind of sponsorship, what? They just like every few months or weeks, however they sing some gear. No, they do whatever you want. You have your own representative and you're like, he's like, he's like,

he's like, can you get me on the list for the, for this Nike PE? The ones I do for athletes only, like athletes, athletes, athletes, how much are they? Time in. No, no, just click on the size. 110. That's the ninja shoe? There you go.

Yeah, that's the ninja shoe. I have, I have a pair. Oh, you got a bid. Yeah. Well, that's the stock axe. You can bid or you can pay. But it's what it is. Yeah, you can't even get them.

I wonder how many pairs of shoes. Oh, 894 for an 11? 394. Oh, 394. That's still good. And they're comfortable. They're ultra boost technology. I wonder how many pairs of shoes.

Not to be in his business or no. But I'm just curious. I don't know. How many units he's old? That's a shoe. That's crazy. No, dude, you have your own signature. Adidas shoe.

But if you tell me, like, yo, if somebody came and said, yo, Nike wants to sponsor Optic or AdiD this wants to sponsor Optic or, you know, something like that. I'd be a little bit like, oh, I'd be like, oh, you wouldn't want to do it? No, it's not that. It's just that I wear all kinds of shoes. And I like all, yeah, I like all.

You don't want to be. Now Kai's going to have to be Nike. Nike. If it's Nike, I'm doing it. Yeah, of course. Can you get me a meeting, agree with Jordan? All I need is the, send me a fresh pair. Air Force.

That's it. 10 Air Force ones. I'm good for at least two years. That's all I need. 10, don't tell 10 a month. Hey less. In a month. I've been putting these on every new content day.

Yeah. Every three days, switch them out. Yeah. So you're saying like if you had a shoe to wear for the rest of your life, like they're like, all right, going forward, you can only wear one shoe. It'd be those that you got on? It would be Air Forces or probably Jordan 3, some kind of three. As long as they got all white shoes, I don't give a fuck who it is. What about you, sir?

What would you wear? Like shoes? Like a brand? Yeah, Nike, for sure. 100%. Jordan's. I mean, don't get me wrong. If Jordan, it'd be up.

Yeah. It'd be up. Adidas, though? I wouldn't mind Adidas. But you know, you can't really ask me. New Balance, baby? New Balance is coming hard. Came hard.

It's still coming hard. I fuck with those. What did he say? I'd rock those. I just haven't gotten a pair yet. These are the 860 V-2s. I made Leon Dore. collab.

Oh. These are the red out of the three. They got a blue, the green, which is my favorite than these reds. Ha.

Oh. You got to understand, man. So it's like, shoes are one of my favorite things ever, period. When I was eight years old, I used to steal my dad's shoes who was a 10 and a half.

I was like an eight, like he was like a half, one and a half size larger than me. And I would just steal his shoes so I could have some variety. I'm talking on the streets of Juaritos, man, walking up them hills. Like, that shit hurt.

But I've always been into sneakers. We got to go. Where? I'm down. I'm not down. I'm serious. You're not down? Why not down?

Definitely not down. Why? Why? It's a little scary there. Like by myself? Are we going as a group? Oh, if we're going as a group, yeah, that'd be. That way we all get kidnapped.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen too many videos. That's not how it happens. That's not how it happens. They'll literally be like at a red light and just corner you, like five cars and just rob you. And that has happened. I'm sure. We're going to check in.

But that doesn't happen every time you go. We're going to do it right. We're going to check in with the, opt the games coming through. We don't want no problems. We're just filming. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Break them off. No, no, no, no.

I don't know if that's that way. What was the show that we were recording? It was a, I don't think this was En Juarez, but Narcos. One of the crew members get. We're going to move on from that. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pah doesn't talk about stuff like that.

But I will say that when we were filming idiots in El Paso, one of the mornings we were supposed to go across. and go try some food out there. But we couldn't because of the time. Time was, yeah. It was getting just, it was getting too late. Me? Yeah.

No, I'm not scared. Yeah, right. They are my people, dude. Yeah, it's different. I paid dues there. I didn't work there, but I went to school until I was 13 there, you know? Anyway, that was, that was pretty cool. I think we should, we should.

Mexico is not what, I will say this, though. And it brings me back to my Japan trip. This sort of thing, like if we're asking, what have you heard about Japan? What do you think about Japan? I've heard it's very clean. All good things. Yeah, I've heard nothing more good things. Acknowledge of good culture.

All good things. But I've heard. All of the above. And to have that reputation, I mean, I started a bunch of time, but to have that reputation is something that everyone, United States included should fucking work for. Because right now, you ask any foreigners, like, what's the United States like? And it's just like fucking shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting. You know what I'm saying?

But is it like that every day? Are you, is it outside? No. You got to be on your, you got to be on your piece and cues. No. You don't live around going like this in the United States. But other people feel. I don't know.

I'm always, I'm always side-on. Every sketchy motherfucker that walks in, I'm like. I was walking to my car the other day after the watch party and guy walks out of a garage, like right behind me, but kind of quickly too, which is a big old jacket. And I just, I started jogging. Yeah. What? Briskly walking.

Maybe not a jog. It was like a brisk walk. You took... You took quicker steps. Well, no, you look to the right and like you can see your reflection in the glass. I had it was the fucking, they had a stars game at 2 p.m. So everything, so I had to go way down the street. It was 2 p.m. 2 and you were running?

No, this was after the stream. It was like 6. It wasn't dark. It was in the middle of the night. It was getting here. You had a Texas license, right? Why don't you just... I should have, right?

If you had a Texas license, I just looked to the right minutes. I just looked to the right in the glass and you can see the reflection, and I just made sure he wasn't, like, running up. I will say that as much as we just, like, laughed at it, every, every, every single man

goes through these thoughts in an elevator or at the grocery store and you're just sizing people up. Got to be prepared. You know? Yep. Yeah, when I park at home at night, I get it, like, oh, it eats me up in the inside.

It's like, the motherfucker pops out of the blue I might just faint like like no lie I'd be like if someone just

ah I'm gonna be like it just died like those like those little goats that freeze that's a defense mechanism

I swear to God not not I not I um yo can somebody fill me in on the jinxy dude

I I as much as I live on the internet I haven't seen any like what does What does he do? How do he get to be the biggest dude?

He's just hilarious. He is everything that a streamer like embodies. He is crazy. He's funny. He's just crazy. What does he play? But he games? Does he play?

What is he? Rainbow Six. He plays. Oh, I love that. 103. What's 103? Oh, dude. It said that he streamed to one viewer for 365 days.

That's crazy. That's just like, get through this. Yeah, no, he's, I mean, he's huge. He won streamer of the year, right? Or what do you win? Oh, breakout. Breakout streamer of the year. Oh, yeah, he's winning next.

Oh, so he just blew up last couple months? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah. I would say within the last like four to six months, I'd start seeing him a lot. To this point, I always thought that Kai was the biggest one so far. I mean, Kai is definitely also huge. Breakthrough streamer, Kcio.

Is that how you say, right? Kacio. Oh, he won. I thought it was just Koso. Oh, Koso. Like cheese. Best V-tuber? Best V-tuber?

Like, that's a thing. Oh, Kai. Just chatting. Taiwan. Koso Variety Shimmer. Damn, he beat out X-Q-C and, yeah. Yeah, but did he beat out? You know what?

He did. I was going to start asking dumb questions. Fucking, all right, that's pretty cool. What's the, that's pretty cool. I don't know. I'm personally, like, over the shows, personally, you know, like going and like... Well, like the award shows?

Yeah, like stuff like that. But to be fair, I'm also done like going to basketball games and all that shit. Like I only go... What? Yeah, I'm only, I only go when Jude is like, we have to go or like, like, I really want to go like that. But I don't go out, do you go out of your way to go watch a basketball game, a football game? I want to. I want to start doing it.

We go to baseball games. We go to like Rough Riders games sometimes. See, I want to start going out of my way to do that shit. Because I feel like my whole life, I've been so not been able to do it. now I have some freedom and I want to do it. Okay. Because I would love to go to a Cowboys game. We didn't go to any Cowboys games last year.

I didn't go to a – I didn't go to a Cowboys game but not being a sweet. We go to college football games. The Razorbacks, they play in the Cowboys Stadium a couple times. Listen. Boarding events are fun, man. You go there, you get a nice – you get some unhealthy food that's just going to bang. You get a beer and you sit there.

You're with the crowd talking shit. Like, it's so much fun. So, again, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I want to go to a Cowboys game this year, but I don't want to go sweet, sit, sit, in the suite. I know that that's, I'm blast and all that stuff, but I just want to be in the mix, man. He's tweaking for that. You want to go, see, then you don't want to. Well, I still don't

small. If we have the opportunity to go to the sweet. We should go regardless. You get some 50 yard line seats, though, and get in the mix, close to the field. Thank you. I know what you mean. You young kids, us old folk. I just wanted to. No, I also want to do that. For sure. We have two sets. Swap them out.

I will say, though, the one thing that would keep me going back to that sweet is those burgers at the Cowboys saying, oh my. God, for all those. Ex love stadium food. I love stadium food, bro. But that burger was crazy. That burger was fucking crazy.

That burger was crazy. Eat it up. It was, in my opinion. It's too much snacks in it. You can't. I love it. I mean, you get beers. At the sidekicks game, dude, at the Mavs game, I was going crazy.

I had a chili dog, a regular dog, a burger, Chen Tenders at the sidekicks game. I had Tenders a burger, a hot dog. Cessidias. I've been going, oh, no, not a hot dog. In case of the deal, I've been going rogue at the games. Love it. And I usually don't.

Listen, the only reason, listen, if somebody wants to say is like, yo, we got a group of us are going, I'm there. I'm there. It's the same with you. But I'm not going to be the one that says, yo, let's go to a game. You're not going to be the one that plans. Hell, no. Hell, nah.

I'm done with that part of my life is done. I'll organize some shit, but not no extracurricular activities or shit. Now, but I'd definitely be down to a little to Cowboys game for sure. The Rangers game. games are always a vibe. Yeah. Rangers games are hell of fun. Like,

I just love going to games. Listen, I just don't like getting there or leaving there. Oh my God. Jude hates leaving before the game's over. I love leaving. I love that. I have to.

If I see the score and I'm like, huh, game's over. I'm, I'm that person. Yeah, I'm that person. Jude is not.

Jude's like, well, we got to watch them do the interviews. I'm like, oh, fuck we not. Dude, since she was like fucking five has been like a sports fanatic.

Her dad used to take him to go meet Steve Kerr's dad. What the what the, Johnny Red Kerr, like took him to every single one of the championship parades and all that shit. Damn. Me? Not so much. The one thing that I will say that I want to do this year before it's too fucking late, I want to, well, not too late, but I want to sit in the crowd and watch an Optic, Texas,

important match in fucking stance, and be able to sit there like a normal person, and eat some food. Not have people swamp you. No, not even that, because we do the watch party. Yeah. So I just want to, because watch party, we're sitting there, you know, we're working in a sense. Yeah. I don't consider it that.

But sitting there watching, like in a controlled environment on camera. I want to be like in the stands, in the fucking bleachers. With the green wall. Get a hot dog. Get a beer and joy. That's what I want to do. Because I've been wanting to do it forever. I wanted to do it at Boston.

I wanted to do it last year. I never got the opportunity to do it because I've always been a play. It seems like a pretty simple request. You just want a dog and a beer and watch the game. That's all I want to do. Just one match. Just one.

An important one. Like one big one. Not finals, obviously, but like on the way too. I mean, finals would be great. That sounds like an important one. You got to be on camera for that. I don't got to do shit. That's right.

That's right, Seth. Listen, I love that you're coming out of your shell. No, I've wanted to do that for a while and I haven't done it. So I want to do it. All right, well, listen, that is going to do it for this episode of the podcast. We do appreciate you guys tuning in. If you guys enjoyed it, please do share it with a friend.

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