OpTic Podcast - WE’RE DONE WITH THE 90s - COD EDITION | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 166
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Welcome back to episode 166 of the Optic podcast.
It's the squad that everyone has dreamed of.
Scum.
Yep.
Money biscuit.
Zinn and myself.
And we're talking about a lot of things today.
I can't even see Zin.
I got this cheese.
I was just looking at the cheese headset.
They had to custom make that.
Really?
I mean, look at it.
Look how big it.
You think if that was real, would you eat that for a million dollars?
Yeah.
Cheese?
A million dollars.
One sitting?
Yeah.
Oh,
you'd be blocked up.
They'd have to surgically take this.
Literally.
Blocked up.
I don't know if you'd be able to.
Bricked up.
Huh?
You could eat that.
Cheese doesn't fill you up like that.
You think one, dude, that's a lot.
I mean, your insides would hate you, but.
But.
Bro, do you understand how.
Think like charcuttery board and how think of that thing cut.
I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be easy.
It'd be like a man versus food.
type thing, but you need this entire desk to do the charcutory board.
I can do it.
For a million dollars, I'm pushing past all pain and anything.
It's a million dollars.
I'm fucking going crazy on that.
Dude, I think it's easier said to that, dude, there's actually.
Straight cheese, no crackers, just straight cheese.
Now that I look at it, dude, that's a big wheel of cheese.
It's a huge wheel.
Did y'all ever watch that like Doug Doug challenge?
No.
So there's like a creator called Doug Doug, he would go to a fast food restaurant.
And it was him and his three buddies in the car, and they would order whatever the person in front of them ordered.
And they would try to do 10 restaurants or 10 fast food joints.
And eat all of them?
And eat whatever the person in front of them ordered.
All at the same time.
They'd fail with me.
10 places?
10 places.
So, like, they would go to a Taco Bell and say, we'll get whatever's in front of them.
And if the person in front of them only ordered one crunch wrap, then they just have to finish one crunch wrap.
But then they'd go to KFC and, like, there were, like, two family meals.
So then all four of them had to finish like two family meals and three Dr. Peppers or something like that.
And then they go to the next place?
And they would have to do 10.
So they eat at the place?
Yeah.
They'll get it and eat it instantly.
They eat in their car.
So they get it in the drive-thru and they eat in the car and they try to complete 10 restaurants.
It's such a good video.
Oh, that's a great video.
It's fucking insane.
Let's run it.
Because I'm down.
I'm down.
I'm down if you're down.
Just an excuse to go rogue?
Y'all think the four of us could finish it?
I mean, it would be heavily weighed by what they got.
Buy what they got.
I mean, I can eat like...
All-Star MVP.
I can eat.
At least I think I can eat.
We'll take care of a good amount.
Yeah.
Because like they would,
and they would go to,
I think the rules,
did you watch it, Matt?
I can't remember if you watch it or not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, no, no, no.
It's not a stream.
Oh, wait, that's the video, though.
Can I eat 10 drive-through meals ordered by strangers?
So, I mean, look how he's.
It's like profusely sweating because the last place they went to was the KFC and they got a bucket of chicken.
A bucket of fried chicken.
Oh, they were probably so mad.
They were hoping they got like a chicken.
They were hoping something like a biscuit or something.
They got a bucket of chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy.
And Doug Doug Doug, Doug chugged the gravy.
His chat was like, yo, that's dangerous.
Yeah.
It's great.
I mean, look, he's in pain, bro.
No, Doug, no.
The thing is,
no,
don't do it.
It depends what time of day you go.
I feel like if you go at night,
it's harder because that's when people are like going and getting meals for their family to bring back.
If you go in the afternoon,
it's probably not as bad because people are picking up like,
you know,
fucking,
a four piece or something.
Whatever the fuck is called them.
You should.
A chicken?
No,
I don't know.
What's the breakfast day?
McGrittle?
Mick Riddle.
McGrittle.
McGrittle.
Oh,
no.
The griddle would be filling, too.
It's got syrup in the thing.
I love McGreddell's.
What a creation.
No, their McGrittle partnered with their hash brown might be like,
bro, I went through like a gaming phase where like I would always go to sleep at the time.
McDonald's breakfast would go up.
So I'd always get a McGrillo.
Ashbrown.
2020.
2020.
I'm living with Aaron.
Oh, McDonald's Central.
We get really hungry at 4 a.m. every night.
So we eat, dude.
It was like McDonald's every morning.
Like every day at 4.30.
We would wait.
till it hit 430 because then it would open and we would order.
Bro, you know what I saw?
That's diabolical.
It's not good.
The other day and I actually thought about it, I'm like, wow, the, like, a few times I did,
bro, the McDonald's pancake, the syrup, like, won't go into it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, it's made out of paper.
They said an insol of a shoe.
That's so true.
I'm like, holy shit.
Do you guys have, like, a breakfast order, like growing up, McDonald's breakfast that you guys would
get?
Mine was the hot cakes with sausage, or three pancake sausage, hash brown.
If my parents were, what do you mean today?
What'd you say?
If my parents were allowing and I get two hash browns, but usually, they started shutting it down.
They started like, they started noticing the trajectory I was on and they started like, they would still get her from me, but like they wouldn't let me.
I used to be like, all right, mom, ranch, BLT, large.
She goes, no, you're getting a medium.
That's really funny.
He said, no, you're getting a medium.
Oh, man.
You're in the medium.
Oh, yeah.
The raspberry iced tea.
I used to love McDonald's.
You might as well let him get the large.
I mean, what's the difference between medium and a large?
Yeah, I love how it's minuscule.
The cap on that was just the size of the McDonald's.
It wasn't like, let's go somewhere else or let's make food at home.
It was like, okay, you just can't get the large.
Burger King used to have a king size, medium large king.
My boy would walk there and I'd go, give me the whopper with a king fry.
It'd be a fucking nice amount of fries.
Oh, it used to be crazy back then.
Dude, at a firehouse, they're, all the, all the drinks are the same price.
So they're like, do you want a small or a large is the same price?
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
That's a, that's a, uh, hack, right?
Dog.
Makes no sense.
I don't get the large because the large is a, it, dude, it's a bucket.
It, they'll put like the, the medium there and then the large or the, you know, wait, the small, which is like a medium.
and then a large or a medium.
And then the large is they like put a clear cup in front of you and they do it with two hands.
I'm like, dude, that's too much.
You ever see Jack in the Box's biggest drink?
Huge.
Bro, I'm no bullshit.
This shit's like this big.
Wait, really?
Carrying it is crazy.
It's so big.
Like if you put any pressure, the little pop off.
Like, oh, hell, no.
That's a big girl.
Like a big gulps?
Bro.
Yes, it's huge.
I had a double take one day.
I looked at the couple of them.
What the fuck?
Stanley and this bitch?
This is so funny.
Yeah, but I'm down.
I'm down to the Doug Doug Challenge.
We could stream it,
IRL stream it?
Dude, you need to...
Who's channel would it go on?
Yes.
Everybody's.
Mine.
Monopoly.
My dad used to lie to me.
We used to go to Wendy's.
He'd be like,
the medium here's large everywhere else.
Just I'd get the media.
I'd rationalize it, my head.
Oh, man.
All right, let's look at this.
It makes sense.
Japan, Hong Kong, Australia, America.
Wait, so ours is bigger, right?
Ours is one and a half times bigger than Japan's.
Oh, oh, okay, I couldn't, like, my brain couldn't compute this.
This would be a great content series.
Like, we should just go to Japan and try it.
They're McDonald's.
Our large is almost twice as big.
I heard it's great.
I heard every McDonald's, but ours is.
is the best shit of all time.
That's what I've heard.
Everywhere is great.
That's what I heard too.
They have like real meat.
London, like the UK, great, France, right?
No, like, UK's good, but you.
I gotta put a stop to the London one.
UK's comparable to ours.
They got the curry sauce.
They had miracle whip on to make chicken.
I was like, no, they did it.
They didn't have miracle whip on me.
The chicken was sweet.
I'm like.
Ew.
They might have fucked up.
I don't taste like this back home.
They might have fucked up.
Now, but like, they have different dipping sauces
and like just, they have cooler products.
Like, I see Joe, Japan is washing.
And they have wagu beef.
And I'm like, what the fuck am I looking at?
It's McDonald's.
We're like, back in the day they used to have ribs and shit, right?
The McRib.
Yeah, McRib, okay.
And that shit, it's slack.
Every time it comes back, dude, we used to have them at like the school cafeteria and every
time they had them, they would just out.
Did you get the chicken meat?
What's the chicken tunders?
They'd have like the school ones at school.
They wouldn't have like McRibbs for McDonald's.
Oh, I thought you said you, they were giving out McRibbs at your school.
like their own version of it and that shit slapped.
What was your favorite school lunch?
French bread pizza.
Really?
Dude, double dog Tuesdays?
Mine was probably pizza day too.
Like the square one that looked like Elios, but it was not Elios.
I think the Nacho Day.
Or, um, chicken shoe strings.
You look like you just had a flashback.
Chicken shoe strings were fired too.
I'm just thinking.
You were like this.
Well, no.
No, my school promoted obesity.
And the chicken sandwich.
They had a good chicken sandwich.
My school promoted obesity.
My school was unofficially promoting obesity.
It was a full kitchen because, like, it wasn't pizza day.
It was pizza every single day.
And then our high school had a lot of options.
Yeah, high school.
They were let me get cookies at 10 a.m.
Oh, same, so, same.
I used to walk up, get two cookies 10 a.m.
And then go and then go out of the gym locker room to get ready for gym.
They were a doll.
I was filthy, man.
Oh, that's great.
I was eating a lot in high school.
I think about how much I was eating in high school and it's crazy now.
Because if I ate that now, dude, how I would.
my metabolism must have been insane.
Like the disgusting schedule mixed with not giving a fuck
just game all night, wake up, go to quick check,
get a sandwich Arizona ice tea.
Milano cookies eat, wake up, do it again.
Malano cookies.
Damn.
For real.
I used to game until like 4 a.m.
Wake up at 6 for school.
I wouldn't even do my hair.
I wet my hair and I put a hood on and I pressed the hood down
so my hair would stay down.
I was fucking filthy.
Damn.
I would just
just so it stays down
Well I only showered in the morning in high school
Because I started caring
But
I remember school and shit like that
I didn't give a fuck
Well it's not me some days I didn't
I used to shower at night
Before
High school I started shower in the morning
Probably like junior year
Before that I used to shower at night only
Really?
I used to because I used to
I couldn't get up early
I had to because I was like the hardest person
To wake up in the entire world
I was like a bolder
Dude that shit was
My mom used to lose her mind
Yeah I can't
Because my alarm one wake me up and then so now weirdly I wake up to alarms and like I'm not I used to be a much deeper sleeper.
I'm not sure because it was the obesity or whatever, but I was way deeper of a sleeper.
I just wouldn't wake up.
I getting up in the morning used to be fucking torture.
I just can't believe that's our that was our schedule in high school.
Like dude, I'd roll up and everybody would, you know how people would hang out outside of the high school before the doors would open?
I don't know if y'all did that.
So in our high school like there was like a little like lobby area outside of our high school and everybody would.
just chill there until they open the doors.
And the dude, we would be out there at 6.45 a.m.
Like, 6.45, the doors were open at 7.
We had to be in class at 7.30.
Like, dude, that's an insane schedule.
Bro.
That's an insane schedule.
It makes me sick.
Like, we get out at three.
And then soccer practice.
Like, dude, that's fucking crazy to think about.
Go to sleep at five, like two hours later.
Someone's waking you up to go get dressed and walk 10 blocks in this.
Oh, yes, weather.
Yeah, I'd game to like two or three and then wake up at 6.30.
It was like zombie movie.
And I'd sleep in my study halls.
Yeah, no, dude.
My first period was in high school was math.
Bro, I slept every day.
I slept every day.
I forgot what that class is called.
I got kicked out of it one day.
I would do this.
I'm not left-handed.
I would put my, if the teacher was here, I'd put my pencil in my left-hand and a paper
down and hold it and then I would fall asleep like this.
Well, that's impressive.
Yeah.
Just so the teacher was,
I was blatant.
I was like, yeah, me too.
Me too.
Oh, God, me too.
I was blatantly sleeping.
Yeah, no bullshit.
I remember this day.
One day I got kicked out of this class.
Like, no bullshit.
It was crazy.
We got our report cards, right?
I'm not telling no lies on this story.
It's crazy shit ever.
They do got something up on projector.
Like some history class.
I forgot what the hell we were doing.
And we're talking about the report cards.
that I ask him a question and he goes we're not talking about that right now.
I'm like, what?
I was just like baffled like, what?
And he's like, he said something.
I can't remember.
He goes, are you high?
I'm like, and I never smoked in my life at this point by the way.
And he's like, and I'm like, are you high?
And then he kicks me out the classroom, right?
He kicks me out.
Bro, I got suspended until I had to go take a drug test.
What?
No swear to God.
Bro, my mom showed up the next day blacking.
on the teacher yeah I can imagine
that shit was crazy
I mean I was happy but
yeah you get off my mom was like
tell me right now have you ever
smoked to eat
like you're good I've never smoked to eat
oh nowadays
oh I'd have been like
butter
about to take that trip ma
at that time
yeah
so HCS is this weekend
yeah I'm I'm excited for it man
I'm fucking competitive Halo hasn't been out for
a long, long time, but the only fucking problem is
CDL is literally conflicting with it.
But it's been since Seattle, right?
Yes, it's the first event.
October.
Yeah, first event.
So it's their first event since October.
Well, they've had like many like online things and they've had like...
Those don't...
Yeah, this is like the first real.
This is the first real one.
So yeah, it's exciting.
Straight up exciting.
I'm excited.
It's going to be hard though, again with the CDL.
obviously we're doing our watch parties for that.
So a lot of people are probably going to expect us to watch the HCS as well.
But we're going to have to figure that out.
I'm sure you guys will be able to throw up stuff in between games.
No, we can't.
Can't why?
No.
Why?
The CDL watch party.
Can't throw fucking Halo up during the CDL watch party.
Wait, we would get in trouble for that?
I think so.
Really?
Pretty sure, yeah.
There's no way, man.
But there's a possibility we can do it afterwards.
but then we'll see
we'll figure it out but yeah I'm excited
HCS it's here I wish we could go to the event
honestly I'm pretty pretty fucking salty we can't go to the event
because it's at ESA too
it's like it's like perfect
adventure is great man
yeah it's a two day match
it's two days right two days on Friday
or two matches Friday yeah
but Friday's pool play a halo
so it's like pool play I'm not gonna lie for the HCS
unless we're playing or like there's a good matchup
it's kind of hard to get through
but once
Saturday and Sunday roll around, it's obviously very enjoyable to watch.
Pool play's tough.
Yeah, pool play.
Especially in Halo.
I mean, in Halo, there's three teams that are so far above everyone else.
Yeah.
It's also different.
Because, like, I feel like, like back when we had pool play, even the teams that
weren't well known, just because you're in the call duty community, you know who those
guys are.
Like, you know how good a certain team is.
I feel like we're just going in blind with some of these Halo teams.
It's like we know, you know, like, optic phase.
Space Station.
And actually look at this.
I believe the schedule has been rigged for us
because there's two matches Friday.
I'm assuming this is the Friday.
Their first match is at 430.
So we'll probably maybe be able to watch their first match.
Oh, they played at 7.30 versus complexity.
Yeah.
Who's on complexity now?
Do we know?
They have a completely new roster.
They got that Carmaya guy.
It's a brand new roster?
They got a lot of new pieces.
but they're actually pretty solid.
I think they're the fourth seed.
So we're not even the highest seed in our pool.
Complexity is.
Really?
But they got Carmaya.
I fucking,
I can't even tell you.
Maybe cycle?
Remember that cycle kid?
Maybe he's on complexity?
Yeah, cycle's good.
I don't know exactly who's on it right now.
Yeah, cycle.
Tusk.
Oh, this is Monsters team.
Oh, my boy, collect.
Oh, Chances on this team.
Oh, I thought Carmeo is on it.
Maybe I'm treaking.
Quicken.
Yeah, monster.
So yeah, they're the highest seed in our pool.
So should be an interesting match.
I think we got them now.
We got a new roster this year.
Obviously, we got Dead Zone, aka the Penguin.
Yep.
In for APG.
So we'll see how they do, first event.
I'm excited to see what the boys got.
Hometown crowd.
I'm actually...
Hometown crowd, yep.
Because of the incentives from the off-season event, like last November,
this will be the vision that I shoot.
I'm shooting a vision this month.
Are you doing the Halo team?
The Halo team and Miami.
And maybe like a watch party segment.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
So the watch party's going to be lit for Miami.
So just to, you're going all out.
It's like a vision episode.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, I mean.
You guys are going to have.
Yeah, they raise like, uh,
what?
You know, that event raised like 200K.
So like I can't, I'm not going to cut any corners, you know.
Like, it's going to be like upload of the optic.
channel's vision. Yeah, I mean, I haven't asked Rod yet, but it's going up on the channel.
Yeah, I'd like to help on the channel. If you're making a vision about the Halo team,
the cod team, I don't know what's going on. A small segment for the watch party, it's going to be
on the main channel. I'm hype. I hope it comes back. What if like, hypothetically,
I guess there's no way to say now, it goes crazy. Half a million views. That's not going to,
but. What if it does? But what if it goes crazy? That's no mindset. Are you willing on the public record
to consider bringing it back.
No.
Oh,
God, no.
What the fuck?
You're out of your mind.
All right.
I thought I tried.
I mean,
I tried.
I thought it'd be,
thought he'd at least.
This is where you lie.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.
Okay, ask me again.
Yes, I'll think about,
yeah, maybe.
It's possibility.
It's possible, yeah.
We could.
Miami's going to be fun, though.
But I think Miami for us is going to be chiller than like if we were to
went in like previous years.
Like our current plan?
So you guys ever going to the venue?
No.
We might do like a meet and greet, but I mean, so again, it's not at a conventional,
it's not at a like normal CDL venue.
It's like a convention center.
And there was a lot of hoops and hurdles for us to be able to actually go to the event.
Like we had to pay for, we had to pay to go to the event basically.
I don't even know if I'm allowed to say that.
Right.
It made no sense.
Riley, are we allowed to say that we had to pay to go to the event in Miami?
Are we allowed to say that we had to pay to be in the venue?
Hector said it.
on the watch party.
Yeah.
So basically, we had to pay to be at the venue and it was a pretty substantial amount.
Like, it just wouldn't make sense.
I also, so my take on the being for the watch party, I only think it's super impactful
to be at the venue if there's like an immersive feel to it.
So for example, in Toronto, when you watch the watch party, you can see the crowd and the
stage behind us.
That makes sense to be at the venue.
Boston, they gave us a sick setup.
We had two players come on for probably a combined 20 minutes, but we were just in a room.
Like, I feel like what we're doing from Miami is going to be, you're going to know where in Miami.
You're going to see it.
And I feel like the more immersive, I feel like that hits harder than us being at like a random venue in a random room.
We got like an Airbnb.
It's going to be like, oh, you see the water in the background, or trees.
These guys are in Miami.
And I feel like that is just some way more like immersive feeling for everybody at home.
It's like, oh, hell yeah.
Like we're watching the boys in Miami.
It's going to be fucking dope.
It's going to be dope.
I was kind of on the fence about it
because, I mean, same thing.
I was like, if we're not going to be at the venue,
what's the fucking point of going?
But I think we should still be there.
I mean, what if the boys win, too?
It's like, I'd hate to not be in the city
if they win and be able to like go celebrate.
If the boys win and we're in Miami, it's going to be fucking filthy.
We might stay till Tuesday.
It's going to be filthy.
But we can't stay till Tuesday because then we have the softball game.
So never mind.
We can't.
The softball game is that Tuesday?
Yeah.
We can't stay till Tuesday.
That a Zool.
Never mind.
They got us fucking
On the river.
They got us fucking bing-l-l-l-lim-lim.
I mean, I'm praying I'm able to play in that shit.
But I'm also.
How's your like?
I mean, it's still fucking sore as fuck.
That's the only thing I'm like, put it this way.
It feels better.
But right now, like, let's just say I had no shoes on and I want to take my sock off,
like how I would do it my right foot.
I can't even get my foot over to my right foot to do it.
Oh, you need to get that checked out.
That's not sore.
Like, look, I can easily just take off my sock like this, but look, I can't.
Yeah, why haven't you got to check that?
I don't want to scare you or like...
I'm going to have to miss the wedding, bro.
Long way away.
Do you think I...
That's a long way away.
You think I'm trolling.
We'll get you steroids shots before you miss the wedding.
That'd be nice.
Preferably a wheelchair with one of you guys pushing, but...
I got you.
You kidding me?
You're not getting like pushing a fucking rock up a hill.
I got you.
I got you.
Yeah, I'm excited.
We got a lot of dope shit happening coming here shortly.
So I'm hype.
We got back-to-back majors.
We got HTS and then major two for COD.
So it's going to be fun two weeks for sure.
Fuck yeah.
This is where it starts ramping up.
I feel like our offseason is so boring.
And also our CDL schedule is terrible too, where it's like.
Dude, it's horrible.
There should not be five online qualifier weeks.
It's like, it's like a slow bleed where it's like, can you just give us the major already?
Like five, like five is too much.
I think last year is that the three online qualifiers and the event was great.
I don't think there was really many complaints about it besides the fact that people wanted more matches, more majors, whatever.
Well, four would be cool if they were implementing one of those things where, like, remember people were winning money in the matches, like when they were playing each other or bounty matches or something.
That'd be cool.
But, well, they definitely.
Five's a little crazy, I think.
It's a little bit.
I don't know.
Wait till the end.
Remember I told you?
Oh, yeah.
When the major three qualls start, we have like, I think three months straight every single weekend.
I'm pretty sure.
Wait, what do you mean?
Once major three starts, so after this major, there's like a three week break.
Major three?
There's a three week break after this major?
Like two, it's either two or three.
Like two and a half week break until matches is right back.
But then major three, it's five weeks major.
so that's six weeks
four days off in between
four more weeks another major
so it's basically 11 weeks straight
oh oh oh I thought you were saying there's going to be a huge break again
no no no after major two
there's a break and then that's like the last break
we got to get the surgery done
it's 11 weeks straight
holy shit yeah so it's going to be
schedule is interesting one man it's going to be pretty crazy
down the stretch for the boys
trying to fucking balance streaming on Twitch
doing the watch party fucking
doing optic content
It's going to be all
It's going to be
Doing the ride
Content
Yeah
The next
The three months are going to be pretty
Pretty chaotic
For sure
Yeah
Are we going to Jake Paul
Vers Tyson
Yeah it's right here
That AT&T
AT&T
Yeah
That's gonna be fucking crazy
Yeah
Bro that crowd is crazy
When is that?
When is that?
I don't know when it is
Around the corner though
Dude
Mike Tyson
is fighting Jake Paul?
Must be getting a bag.
What do you guys think about that?
I mean, that's really what it is.
I mean, bro, it's the first.
So Showtime disappeared.
July 20.
Showtime is out of boxing.
HBO's out of boxing.
There's the zone, top rank.
Those are only two.
So like for people to fight on their platform,
like let's just say tank,
they're going to have to give them like a good amount of money
for him to keep coming back and fighting their fighters.
But Netflix just got into boxing, like streaming.
They're like hosting it now.
and these two are the first
two that are fighting on Netflix.
All the boxes are about to get paid
if Netflix is starting to throw events.
So Netflix is live streaming.
If I had to take a guess, I would say
it's probably gone.
It's got to be upwards of 15, 20 mil each
like guaranteed for the fight.
In order to get 60-year-old Tyson
a train and like,
because like it's probably a deal
where like I could be wrong
because Mike Tyson probably wants to
not go out there and just whatever.
But I feel like Netflix,
if they're going to,
if they're going to
pay you a bunch of money, they're probably like, you have to get in shape.
You have to, like, train.
Like, it has to be an actual fight.
You can't just collect the check, go out there.
Someone said they're fighting with 18-ounce gloves on it, headgear.
But I doubt that's real.
I don't know what that means.
It's super, like, fad-ass gloves, like, that they spar with it for practice and head-gier.
I mean, I doubt it, but.
How old is he?
Almost sad.
I mean, no, that's...
I think he's 54.
Oh, is 50?
Mike Tyson?
I think he's 60.
You think he's 60?
You think he's 60?
Is he?
Oh, 57.
What do you think?
Nice one.
You watch boxing.
What do you think?
What is this?
Mike Tyson, if it's not rigged.
I mean...
I keep seeing the clips of him...
It's Netflix.
There's a way that this could get.
I keep seeing clips of him when he was training for his last fight against...
Who did he fought...
Jones Jr.?
Yeah, Roy Jones Jr.
Yeah.
And though...
I mean, dude, he was moving.
But no one won that fight.
So he didn't really want to
This if it's a real fight
I honestly take Mike Tyson
He is 30 years older than
Jake Paul yeah that's crazy
If he just off the rip goes in for the kill
He's gonna kill him
He is 30 years older
He live his difference of being older than
Jake Paul is longer than Jake Paul's been alive
He's lived like that 30 years
Jake Paul's 27
Longer than we've been alive too
Yeah
I hope he juices the fuck up for this
Just fucking every Royd
every
yeah because if it's an exhibition
and not a real fight
think about it
it's probably no actual rules
probably could have right up
it's got to be a real fight
I mean there's probably like
no there's no way
he was not on Mike Tyson's record
on his record no way
there's no way this is on his record
oh no I didn't mean in that
capacity I didn't
that's not going towards you
I mean it's like threat
I think it's going to look like an actual boxing
I hope that's what I
I doubt they're going to use the big gloves
like I hope it's real
if they fill out AT&T stadium for that
I mean
Maybe, but if you're signing the contract and you're Mike Tyson,
you're 57 years old fighting a 28-year-old.
He's probably got a hell of an ego, man.
Mike Tyson, if I was Mike Tyson, I'd probably think I'd beat the fuck out of anybody.
A hundred thousand percent.
He's just probably like fucking Tyson.
Exactly.
Dude, have you ever seen the clip of Mike Tyson was on some podcast?
And they asked him, like, who, if you could have fought anyone in their prime, who would it be?
People were thinking he was going to say Muhammad Ali.
And he said Achilles.
evil like he was like yeah I wish I could fight like
the greatest fighter of all time Achilles
what's like Troy what a fuck have you guys seen that movie
I actually haven't oh my god Brad Pitt
oh you haven't seen Troy
oh you gotta watch Troy
oh it's about Achilles it's so good
really oh he's so good
I might watch that tonight
I've seen it fucking dude I watched a
I had never seen Mays runner
and I watched it on the plane come home from Vegas
Like the first one?
Yeah, great.
Yeah, great.
Yeah, he's on is great.
Great movie.
I didn't realize.
You seen the Scorch trials?
I think the Scorch trials were my favorite one.
Because the original ones where they're like in the little, that little forest area and they like go in.
Go in the maze.
Yeah, yeah.
So it evolves past that.
Oh, yeah, you got to watch.
There's two more, right?
Yeah, the Scorch trials.
I kept here, people kept telling me that the other ones are not as good.
I think you're making a new one, too.
I like the first one.
I like the Scorch Trials a lot, though, because it's like, they're like out in the world.
Is that the second one or the third one?
The second one.
Oh, you like the second one better?
Oh, I got to watch that.
I got to watch that shit there.
Is there a new one coming out?
I don't really remember the death care.
I hope.
Maze Runner 4.
Oh my God.
That gets me so fucking gas.
Now I'm going to go back and watch all the Maze Runners.
I don't think it's the same cast though.
I don't think it's Dylan O'Brien.
They know what they're doing.
New movie comes out.
You know everyone's going back watching all the old ones.
Watching the new one.
Have you all watched Dune yet or no?
Still on our list.
Oh, so the, oh.
I'm gonna watch it when...
This is a prequel.
I mean, you gotta be locked.
You gotta be locked for that, though.
Yeah, Blake and I watch...
Blake and I watched the first one,
so we're gonna watch the second one.
So I gotta not get any fucking spoilers or anything.
Dune is like...
Dune's one of those movies where if you're not locked
and you like miss one fucking, like,
talking segment, you could miss like
so much of the plot.
I watched the first one high and I was like...
Like, I don't know what the fuck I just watched.
It was gorgeous though.
Like beautiful.
The only thing I remember is that it's a battle for that drug.
The spice?
Yeah.
It's like a bunch of people.
want that for economic prosperity.
I'm gonna watch it again.
Something like that.
A show of all time.
What show?
Supranos.
This has Pope.
So good.
I said no Pope.
It's so good.
I watch you a Will and Mike.
Bro, please watch it.
It's so good.
Supranos?
Maybe it's different for me or probably you'll maybe because I'm in Jersey.
So like, well, I grew up in Jersey.
So it's like, there's behind my brain, there's some fatuation with it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You hear those accents and stuff?
Like, it's just, it was, that imprison break was really good to me.
But I also haven't watched a lot of shit.
You got to watch the wire.
The wire's HBO.
If you're like serious shit, the wire is like probably one of the best.
The wire is about like the drug game in Baltimore where it's like it follows the
the gangsters and the detective's chasing them.
Really?
It's so good.
It was like the staple HBO show after, I think.
think after the Sopranos, right?
Yeah, it was.
It was like Sopranos, then the Wire, then is Entourage?
Was that HB?
No, actually.
Yeah, Entourage is really good, too.
I watched that as well.
Entourage is godland.
Yeah.
It's like the best feel good show I've ever watched.
Because like you don't really, I mean, you can, you can watch that while you're eating.
Yeah.
You can watch that while you're chilling.
It's so good.
But like, if you're in Game of Thrones, obviously.
Game of Thrones, you kind of have to be locked to watch.
See, I never saw that.
Game of Thrones.
I was talking about this in my stream.
Is there, what's the current, like, back then, every Sunday, Game of Thrones was like
a spectacle.
It was everybody's tweeting about it, everybody's watching.
And then before that was breaking bad.
What show is that right now?
Is the House of the Dragon?
I mean, there isn't one.
There isn't one.
I feel like House of the Dragon is the closest.
Also, The Last of Us was pretty big, I feel like.
Last of Us was big.
Last of us.
We had watch parties for it.
So like we'd like all like come to a place and watch.
But that's how you know a show is really good is if if you gather with your friends to do a little night around.
There's not like the last of us, House of the Dragon.
I want to.
Succession I've heard.
I've never watched it though.
I've never watched it though.
I want to say that I feel like the competition now with just with shows in general is so much higher than when Game of Thrones was out.
Like there's so many good shows right now.
I feel like people are watching so many different things.
Like Game of Thrones was like the show.
now it's like there's so many good shows
I get what you're saying but dude
you gotta think about what
when Game of Thrones was out the office was out
New Girl was out
Parks and Rec was out
Like that's those aren't like shows though
Those are like sitcoms
Wait wait was the office still airing
Like new episodes during Game of Thrones
Yeah
I was watching Game of Thrones in like
2000
I'm talking like fucking high budget
14 years year 2020 2013 it came out
2014 so it was probably
I mean it was definitely towards the end of the office
but
2011 yeah what so I I started watching Game of Thrones in season three or season two that just
pissed me off game of Thrones came out in 2011 dude I graduated high school almost 10 years ago
where's the time why I think about it it doesn't it didn't make sense because I heard my dad
my whole life talking about it but I'm like shut up dad like he's he's just like it's gonna
pay it's gonna it had you go to your reunion uh that's not even plan yet I have no idea
Our reunion was during COVID so I didn't go.
I probably will go.
Like, I feel like that's something that like...
You should go because you're...
You get to see who all got big and who all got, like, who all got weird.
You got hotter.
So you should definitely go.
Yeah, but...
You got skinny and hot.
I'm not thinking about that.
I'm not thinking that way.
I'm just...
You should.
I mean, that's all I would think if I was in.
But, uh, but he had to do my dad.
My whole life was like, it's going to go like this.
And then it's not until moments like now.
I'm like, oh my God, I really did.
Because it's all nine years ago.
It genuinely feels like a few years ago.
Like I can still, I still have vivid memories of like going into high school or like
it just, it's just crazy how time works.
Convo for a different day.
Keeps going.
Yeah.
Keeps on ticking.
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TikTok.
Have you all seen this?
I already asked you guys this off the podcast
but I can't believe you guys
haven't seen this done with the 90s trend.
No, what is it?
So there's this guy on TikTok
apparently I don't know if it's been out
but all the 90s games
are individually uploaded on YouTube.
Like all the 1996,
1997
1998 games
They're all uploaded on YouTube
Okay
And this guy goes through and watches them
And just talks about how trash everyone is
And he's like obviously really
Exaggerated with it
But he goes, we're done with the 90s
And he'll show like
He was like Jordan had no left
And he always
He just goes through and shows all the different plays
And people airball and shots
In like the NBA finals
And
Went back and I watched old NBA
It's not this guy.
I think this guy's trying to debunk your guy or something.
Magic Johnson and reports were exaggerated.
This is the 91 NBA Finals and for being the best player in the world, Michael Jordan
is left wide open.
Like there's, it's actually crazy watching it and seeing how evolved the game is.
Because like Magic Johnson's airballing.
He's hitting the side of the class.
That would never happen right there.
That would never happen right there.
That would never happen.
That's crazy.
Missing layups.
That was Pippin, wasn't it?
Yeah, I think that would never happen.
They're going to be in the comments like, Bose, you know what?
Yeah, I mean, look at how crazy it looks.
Oh, so Hector's delusional.
No, that's why Hector's Dillusional.
I mean, watching the pace of the game, it looks like a different game.
Like, just from watching like just this.
This looks like me and gym class.
Get up, Jordan.
Let me see something.
Huh.
Hell no.
I mean it looks so weird it looks so weird to even watch
Damn all right that was
Gordon goes to the right here and the defense literally goes the other way this would be playing on not top 10 for probably a month if this happened in today's era
god damn
He just threw it off his head
but i really didn't know that he just
brown would have had 70 and for all the talks of like great defense
maybe 80
dudes are just tackling each other.
I'm not completely dismissing someone.
That was not.
That was sick.
It's fair share of great players.
This is infuriating watching, you know, the best player with just no defender even close
to him.
And every single clip I showed you.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
The eye test that that looks kind of fugase.
So that, that wasn't, I mean, that's not the guy, but that's basically what's been going
on.
If you scroll through TikTok, like there was this one guy, his whole feed, he was just screaming,
we're done with the 90s.
Everyone was garbage.
And it would just like, it would show a clip of just like something as crazy as that where somebody would just miss a layup or Michael Jordan always going to his right hand.
And he's still like, Michael Jordan had no left.
And then obviously that goes viral.
And so there's a bunch of like people, uh, the comments are like if Kyrie, if Kyrie Irving was playing in the 1990s, they would execute him for witchcraft like shit like that.
No, no, they would.
And it was, it was real, dude, it was so funny.
and Nick and I see it and we're just sending clips to Hector
and Hector's not responding
Is you be getting tight?
He's got to be tight.
You got to meet him?
Kyrie, hell yeah.
Gotta meet Kyrie before he's out of here.
Yeah, Kyrie.
He was just in deep Ellum.
Like they built like a court on a street.
He was out there hooping.
Really?
Yeah, they were like shooting outside the shoe store and shit.
We might have to cut this, but whenever we did Optic Night,
Kyrie asked for a jersey
One of the optic jerseys
And he said he rocks for the optic
I don't know
I heard that too
But like
Who
Where was it
Where and who
I don't know
Who does he
Does Kyrie don't follow me
He asked his manager
I don't think he follows
He's probably like not on social media
Does Kyrie do you on Instagram
On Twitter
You imagine he goes and looks
His follow back
He probably does
That'd be appalling
I don't think so
That'd be appalling
But that's what
That's what
Yeah
That's what page said
Page said
That Kyrie's manager
Hit her up
And said
Kyrie likes the jersey
And likes Optic
Wants to do something
Wants to do something
Oh come on the podcast
Got Rhee
Neat you
We're both from Jersey
We chop it up
That's what
That's what Paige said
She could be lying
You know she is
I'm just kidding
She's like a liar
You know she is
Lying
that's insane
why did I just hear Matt Craig burst out laughing
page is hilarious though
why I'm page what you doing
not babysitting Tom Brady's kids with Selena
what
dude I was watching
I was watching the David Beckham documentary
and during the first like five episodes of that
they talk about their kids name is Brooklyn
and I was like oh shit that's cool like
I've never heard a person named Brooklyn before
that's a cool name
and so then I'm talking about
to page and she was like yeah I was hanging out with my friend and then like Brooklyn
came over I was like I was just watching a documentary I was like I'd never heard of the name
Brooklyn I've heard it twice in a week I was like oh shit fun fact David Beckham's kid's name is
Brooklyn she was like yeah that's who I was hanging out with I was like that's like that's
hilarious dude she doesn't I mean I don't think she understands like how she doesn't do it like
on purpose she's not like just talking just like casual to her casual talking
Oh, yeah.
Oh, dude, page is hilarious.
So Shotsie's been slamming people
and people have been talking about
whether he's a superstar or not, is he?
Is he?
He is, yeah.
I mean, he...
Two-time champs.
Yep.
I mean, he's just...
Right now, it's so hard.
Superstars, I feel like in Call Duty,
change throughout the year, kind of.
Like, I feel like some players...
There are a lot of stars.
Like, there are a lot of really good players.
I'm not sure what categorized someone
as a superstar where it's like,
stars can have Superstar series all the time.
I think Superstars are someone you build a team around.
That's kind of how I...
Okay.
That's kind of how I would look at it too.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I mean...
And I think you build a team around Shotsie.
At least that's what pro players say.
Yeah, I mean, the way he's playing right now is a superstar.
I don't think that's really debatable.
I mean, he just went crazy against, I guess, what people consider the best team in the world.
I'm not sure where people would rank Ultra now after their loss to us.
phase, I'm not sure if they get the benefit of the doubt because they're still the major
champions. And like, I kind of feel like they need to be dethroned on land. At the same time,
Ultra? Yeah. At the same time, like, Ultra wouldn't have lost a phase and optic in the matter
that they did in their prior form, I feel like. So, like, definitely as the year goes on, skill gap
gets tighter, other superstar team start picking up the pace. And now it's like, okay, so going
it to the major, this is the first time where I genuinely, genuinely feel like any of the top
four teams could go win Miami. Yeah. Like, it's going to come down to like just a matchup on
that day. Like I think New York, us, New York beat Faze, we saw Fays through Toronto, we saw
us beat Toronto in a Neslo fashion. So it's like, it's kind of like evolving to who's going to,
who's going to show up on the day, which is whenever call of duty is always at its best,
because you just never know who's going to show up on that day and just play better.
I mean, it's been a thing in Call of Duty forever.
I mean, I'm excited for the major.
I think the top four teams are the only teams that can win, though.
I don't think anybody else is...
Dude, the drop-off is crazy.
Nobody else is...
Even the map count. Can you bring that up?
Like, Vegas has been looking a lot better.
Thieves have been looking better.
Like, there's other teams that could definitely make some noise and upset.
Like, Minnesota went from...
Minnesota looks just not good now.
It's crazy how the year is kind of a...
like I think there's only six teams that can like really compete with each other right now.
Map win percentage goes from 83, 83, 80% to 35%.
Yeah.
From fourth to fifth it goes from 80% to 35%.
God damn.
12 wins to six wins.
That's wild.
The good thing for our boys though is our search is looking better, at least based on the
Ultra Series.
Like when you beat first and foremost, when you beat a team like that,
Ultra in search in that manner, it kind of like just boosts your team confidence in search,
and it kind of makes you a better search team just by default. Like even if, like, hypothetically,
let's say that it was two fluke search maps, the fact that you won those two maps make your
team a better search team undeniably, just because like you have so much more confidence now on it,
and thinking back to the Boston major, the reason we lost a phase was really search. I mean,
if we clutched up one of those searches, we take out phase, and that could have been a different tournament.
But the only thing is, is you're talking so much about the search, but we lost both HPs to Toronto.
So you've got to keep all game modes consistent.
I agree with that, but I think my thing with search is I feel like the skill gap in search,
like I feel like the hard point within the top four teams will always be competitive.
Like I think New York can take a map and heart point off us on any given day and vice versa.
And I think that goes the same with all the top four teams.
That's fair.
feel like search is like a more skill gap game mode where it's like there are teams that are
clear cut better in search consistently. You know what I'm saying? So the fact that we're playing
better in search consistently, I feel like matters more than that oh and two in Harpoint that day.
You're thinking that's what separates the top four teams. Because I feel like I don't expect us to go
show up to an event and not win hard points. Well if Toronto is just that different in HP.
I mean Toronto was the team that set the HP record. Then we nezlo them. We have to
Nesloam every time.
2.35, fuckers.
There's so many different variables in Cod.
I'm excited for our match this weekend against New York.
We play them last match of the split,
literally last match, 5 p.m. on Sunday.
So I'm excited to see that because New York,
I feel like New York's not as strong as Toronto and HP,
but their search and destroy and control are very solid.
I mean, if you look at the search and destroy records
from the top four teams, we're the only outlier.
Like, the other three are like fucking just dominant in search,
like 16 and 4
you know like just always up there in search
and New York's the same way so
yeah I'm excited we played New York in our first match
of the season pretty sure
and I think we lost both searches to them
I remember us losing a Game 5 search on Terminal to them
to start the year so get the rematch
see where we're at
honestly if we beat New York
in semi fashion to what we beat Toronto in
I would say I mean us and Faze are the favorites
going into the tournament
but obviously we got to beat new york new yorks in their slouches
new yorks the only other undefeated team in this split
um
so yeah it's gonna be a fucking it's gonna be a battle i can't wait
to see the boys go up against hydra kiz you know i love that sub matchup
this event's gonna be great this event this event this event's yeah
it's gonna be very competitive the only issue is is that
it's like it's like the same thing with halo it's like if you have a league like this
where it's just so fucking top-heavy.
Thursday's going to be so much fun to watch
because it's winter's bracket.
So just by default, it's going to be fun to watch.
You're looking at the top eight seeds play against each other.
There's always room for an upset in the top eight seats.
You're like, you never know.
Then Friday, it's the loser's bracket matches.
And Fridays might be a rather.
You take a nap.
Friday might be a little bit of a snoozer.
I might be off the cucumber marks.
Yeah.
I think we could get some drinks.
I'm down.
Are you going to be there?
I'll be there Saturday morning.
Okay.
I might be down for some drinks.
I'm just a liar.
Where is Saturday morning at the event or with us?
What do you mean?
Probably both.
Oh, okay.
Because I'll probably do some segments at the event, some with you guys.
But then Saturday, Sunday, Saturday's where we get the winner semifinals.
You know, that's when you start to see some of these top four teams start matching up against each other.
And then there's a couple losers bracket matches.
And then Sunday, Sunday, I'm hoping Sunday is literally the top four.
And it's just a fucking bad.
That would be fucking God.
Like if the top four seeds are all in on.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for.
But it never works that way.
Like Vegas might come out upset.
The Royal Ravens are winning the whole event.
Did you imagine somehow just like one of those random teams that everyone's written off just comes out in place his top four?
I would love it.
I feel like Rocker did that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, right now the only teams that even have a chance of doing that are like Vegas thieves.
Maybe Boston, but Boston's probably in losers' bracket.
So it's like...
It's so hard to make a run from losers bracket.
Unless you're like a super strong team.
But Seattle hasn't looked great.
Miami's been struggling.
Carolina's been struggling.
L.A.G.'s been super struggling.
So, yeah, it's, I mean, Minnesota even's been super struggling.
It's like, and they just got fourth at the major.
You know, it's...
It's been interesting.
This year's been hard to call.
It's like, unless it's a top four team going against the bottom team,
you just never know who's going to fucking come out and play good.
It's like besides the top four, everyone else's a question.
I remember Zen calling it before the rosters were even locked.
Like before the roster announcements had even been happening,
and Zen was like, there's four teams.
Oh, yeah.
And so, like, it's crazy that it's actually panned out that way.
Because I didn't.
When you said it, I was like, really?
Like, there's not going to be any sort of, like, new up-and-comer.
There are pros and cons to a high-skill gap game.
When you're a top team and a top player,
you'd prefer the high-skill gap game.
I feel like when it comes to the casual viewer
and you love watching CDL,
a game like last year is probably more fun to watch because there were just more competitive series.
So many question marks.
Back then with a higher TK, just more teams and more players can compete on a more consistent basis.
So way more matches last year were more competitive than this year.
I mean, this year, some of these matches are a snooze fest when you just know,
okay, this team realistically probably a zero chance of winning.
So I don't know.
I mean, yeah, snoo's fest, but I think it's.
I hope we get, we need at least.
like two to four more teams that just actually become good though because
I mean we're starting to see the good thing about it is though we're starting to see
some new talent and some new like breakout players coming to the league and I feel like we see
it pretty much every year but like you got your Gwyns your Linses is like these rookies
that are coming in and actually look fucking nasty like after this year like imagine like
Gwen and Lynn and join a team together like instantly that's a dirty little duo right there
and then they find two veteran player you know what I'm saying like
our league had like trades like I wish I wish there were it was a more worse then no but
well the top heavy would be even crazier no but think right now let's say let's say
gwin and Lynn got traded to a team together and then and then they're paired up with an
AR what trade would even be worth that no one well well that's because Gwen's Carolina's
best player that's the issue is that most trades have a losing team in the trade but I
just wish I just wish players have more flexibility to go to different
different teams.
Because like...
From challengers or some shit.
Like for example, let's look at, I mean, I guess we can use Royal Ravens as an example
because of their current seed.
Like, let's say Gwyn could go to a team that's 6 through 8 right now.
Like, imagine Gwynne going, like, it's just...
Ooh, Gwyn on Miami would be decent.
Gwyn on a lot of these teams would be decent.
Gwyn on any team would probably...
Gwyn on pretty much any team.
I mean, we're glazing, but he'd probably improve literally any of the non-top
four teams instantly.
Like if there was a roster change.
I do like that.
Imagine Gwen on Vegas?
That team would be fucking filthy if Quinn was on Vegas.
That team would actually be gross.
Yeah.
Like they'd be content.
Maybe not contenders, but they'd have serious, like, upset potential.
Yeah, I don't know.
With Nero and Attach playing the way they are?
I just don't know how you fix this.
Like, I'm not sure if there's a solution to dethroning.
Not dethroning, but like making a non-top-four team
competitive enough to be a...
There's not a single team. Even Vegas,
if they play one of the top four teams right now,
I'm very confident in the top four teams.
Oh, yeah, 100%. If someone's going to do the
pull an upset, I would say Vegas,
but, like,
I don't know how you actually fix it,
honestly. You don't.
It's just the lay of the land.
It's just what it is. Yeah, it's just, it is what it is.
But I feel like...
Are I tripping, but I feel like this is the craziest
that's been throughout a call duty history.
Like, I feel like you never
used to have a discrepancy like this.
What? Like, as far as top heavy?
Like top four top heavy. I might agree with him.
What?
No, dude.
Like four teams that nobody can fuck with?
Like, like back then it was like,
there was like times where like you had us.
Like think of TK back in the day.
TK was a top team. You could give
TK a competitive series. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? I obviously optic.
Like if you play Optic and IW, you're getting fucked up.
I think maybe Black U.S. too is what I'm thinking about.
Black Ops too would impact had their run
Impact Coal Optic
Maybe you're right honestly
I could be wrong
I'm just bringing it up
Because I mean
There definitely were some dominant teams
But I feel like in the CDL era
No I don't think this is a lot
You never had this many dominant teams
Like you never had four fucking powerhouse teams
You had an impact
I get what you're saying
That could win the event
Because maybe in those in those days
Like you knew complexity was gonna win
Yeah
In you guys's day
You knew y'all were gonna win
or there was one other team
that could possibly take you guys in each game.
But, like, no, I get what you're saying.
There's never been four teams.
Maybe you're right.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe you're right.
I thought you meant, like, just top heavy in general.
But, like, four teams that could possibly win, maybe not, not.
And maybe I'm forgetting.
Like, maybe I'm just caught up in the times.
Looking at its graphic work.
Complexity, strictly business.
So I tweeted this.
I tweeted this at a stoplight and forgot I tweeted it.
I tweeted 2013
Complexities not winning a map
off of current Toronto Ultra
and an 11th or an 11 game series
obviously as a troll
I'm done with the 90s
That comes from the I'm done with the 90s thing
That's why I tweeted that
Oh okay
It was a playoff of that
But but but but uh
And obviously all the shit with the
Bro look at these bro look at these rosters
Tipsy Gucci
Stanville Neslo
Merck study Rambo Nameless
Isn't it crazy
What a crazy
Shot scump, Clayster, Embos.
Parasite Killah Miracles, Ricky.
That team's toxic.
That team was toxic.
They have Mr. X under complexity.
Crazy times, man.
I don't know.
What do you guys think about that?
Because old heads and new guys are always,
in any competition ever,
are always going to have differencing a different event.
All three of us played in both eras, both generations.
current ultra
versus 2013 complexity
I think current ultra
fucking slams
there's not even
Cole's not even getting a map
I think
they're not getting a map
well it depends in the game
because
it doesn't depend on the game
If you talk about like
The game is also involved so fast
Exactly
It's just
Toronto plays such a more
fast-paced game
That's way more up in your face
Here's the scenario for me
You say
Hey there's a million dollar money
A million dollar best of 11 series
A month from now
in ghosts.
Yeah.
You guys both scrim.
Figure it out how to get as good as you possibly can over the next month.
I think they beat them.
Toronto,
if it's in current,
no,
I think Cole would beat Toronto.
If it's on a current new gen,
Toronto is slamming them.
Wait,
you think,
you think old school,
if it's on ghosts?
You think complexity a month from today,
both teams start screaming today beats Ultra?
Okay.
A month from today?
Maybe not.
If they're all in their primes,
yeah.
Yes.
Nowadays no.
All in their primes.
Nowadays,
See, this is why this is impossible.
Because there's no way.
On their primes, go to the game.
If they're this age, no.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
I was like, there's no way.
It'd be a good series, but they'd lose.
Toronto would lose.
I mean, you got to think, you just beat the complexity team with Shotsie and Pred, having never played the game.
Well, yeah, but they're also 20-year-olds going against fucking 30-year-olds.
If you're talking, taking shot in tequila before their fucking finals.
I don't think about it.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
If you're talking prime versus prime,
I genuinely think it's an impossible.
It's like a, it's like a generational.
A lot of this shit is matchups.
What?
I don't think it's.
A lot of this shit is matchups.
Now, if you took the phase team, prime versus Cole,
you gotta think like,
when formal came in, when formal came into Cod,
people were like,
people were like bewildered by his shot.
When formal came into Cod.
And that was,
and he was like the,
That was all fucking forever ago.
So like imagine, imagine you take scrap now and put him in there.
I think he's already like, what the fuck?
Who is this guy?
I can't glaze that boner neck.
I mean, I'm not, yeah.
Boner neck.
I don't know his boner neck like that.
Mike neck.
Like you know it.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
It's impossible.
It's impossible.
We just saw the 90s clips.
They're both.
I'm going to get trash for this segment.
I'm playing, I'm trolling.
I'm playing both sides.
You can argue both sides.
I don't think anybody has a losing argument there.
I feel like if you were a bigger fan back in those days, you'd argue for complexity.
And if you're more of a current, you just got into the CDL.
You know, that's funny.
Hey, can I also say, though?
You could say whatever the fuck you want about, they'd beat us, they'd beat us.
But you can't tell me that our era was not way more entertaining.
Oh, yeah.
So much more entertaining.
So much more entertaining.
Well, back then.
Well, back then.
those days so bad.
Back then, people were just professional, man.
You had a fight with your girlfriend.
It was on Twitter.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we were all kids, man.
Like, like, you miss that shit, dude.
We were going row.
You saw everything.
Like, there was, oh, man.
Back then was the best.
There wasn't that, like.
Your tweet had me crying.
And it was LeBron talking to the two girls and it said,
play cod pros back at the bar at Thursdays.
On Thursday night.
Wait, Matt, bring it up.
Happy National Women's Day.
That's too funny.
Women's hilarious.
Dude, that was hilarious.
Is that what he said?
Yeah, first of all, first of all,
happy National Women's Day to the both of you.
Is that what he said?
Go look at the clip.
That's, dude, that's so funny.
Dude, look at that.
Oh, bro, we love you.
Thank you.
Why does she lay on him?
Yeah, hold on.
That's insane.
That's his bread rate.
That's where that new contract's coming from her.
there.
Wait, really?
Oh, yeah.
She owns the Lakers.
Oh, she's the Lakers owner.
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, all right.
Two years on a mill, bro.
Get it.
Yeah, that shit's crazy.
But yeah, I thought it was funny.
Because I saw someone else tweet in the
Smash community and said,
they quote retweeted and said,
I don't want to, like,
I hate to admit it,
but this is how Hungry Box moves at events.
And I thought it was so funny.
So I was like, how could I come?
And then I was like, dude,
Thursday nights back in the day,
Because you guys, you guys played nobody's on Fridays.
So you guys would be-
Thursdays were basically like, do whatever you want.
It's pool play tomorrow.
You guys would be up until like 3 a.m. at the bar.
It's pool play.
I mean, everybody.
It was like, dude, there were so many people just like on Thursday night before the event.
I walked in.
Life was great.
I walked in on a UMG event.
I forgot what it was.
And there were so many people at the bar at like 2 a.m.
And like, Nate Schott and Pac-Man were like,
yelling at each other.
Like...
Before the event?
Like having a roast battle
talking about like...
Dude.
Was that UMG?
We were all at that table?
Yeah, UMG DC or...
No, it was UMG, it was probably Nashville.
I don't...
I can't...
Maybe it was.
I remember one quote that I know you're gonna...
I can't say it here, but I'm gonna say it and you're gonna be like, that was the...
That was the time I'm talking about.
Who's the guy?
There was a guy there.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll talk about here.
Oh.
The 440 Bayon Bridge guy.
40 South Bay on Brie.
Blacked out everywhere he went.
Yeah, yeah, dude, that shit was so fun back in the day.
But that was at 2 a.m. on Thursday and you guys played on Friday.
And, dude, every pro player was there.
See, every pro player.
That's what's different about these days is back then it was like an actual big community.
Now I feel like it's so separate.
It's like teams stay in different hotels.
They have their coach.
To be fair, it's a lot more professional.
There's a lot more money in it now.
So it makes sense.
But back then, like, bro, all the Amherstay.
We're at the same event.
Let's go back.
All the, all the, all the characters.
It was just fucking.
You think if we, if, if, if, if we go away from franchising, that'll ever come back?
Because if we go away from franchising, the money's going to go down.
I don't think our, our game is the popping thing anymore.
Yeah, it's like, it's not, it's not as pop.
Like back then Comcod was like.
I don't think.
But I don't think you have to be popping in order.
Oh, you're saying with, I'm not talking about the girl, the girl part of it.
I'm talking about the, the craziness of Thursday nights and like, that I don't.
I doubt it, no way.
Yeah, it's long gone.
If you missed it, you missed it.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Damn.
It was the best you can.
Damn when I do anything to go back.
Me too.
Comratery.
Comrothery, fun.
Just random 4 a.m. Waffle house.
Like, shit doesn't happen anymore.
4 yam waffle house.
You guys play in four hours.
Those days were crazy, bro.
Oh, man.
There were so much fun.
All right, guys.
Well, I think that is going to do it for the Optic Podcast.
Episode 166.
We were yapp yapping today.
We were yapping.
But it was a lot of fun.
We'll see you guys in the next one.
Peace amazing.
