OpTic Podcast - WE’RE DONE WITH THE 90s - COD EDITION | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 166

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Welcome back to episode 166 of the Optic podcast. It's the squad that everyone has dreamed of. Scum. Yep. Money biscuit. Zinn and myself. And we're talking about a lot of things today. I can't even see Zin.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I got this cheese. I was just looking at the cheese headset. They had to custom make that. Really? I mean, look at it. Look how big it. You think if that was real, would you eat that for a million dollars? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Cheese? A million dollars. One sitting? Yeah. Oh, you'd be blocked up. They'd have to surgically take this. Literally.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Blocked up. I don't know if you'd be able to. Bricked up. Huh? You could eat that. Cheese doesn't fill you up like that. You think one, dude, that's a lot. I mean, your insides would hate you, but.
Starting point is 00:00:56 But. Bro, do you understand how. Think like charcuttery board and how think of that thing cut. I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be easy. It'd be like a man versus food. type thing, but you need this entire desk to do the charcutory board. I can do it. For a million dollars, I'm pushing past all pain and anything.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It's a million dollars. I'm fucking going crazy on that. Dude, I think it's easier said to that, dude, there's actually. Straight cheese, no crackers, just straight cheese. Now that I look at it, dude, that's a big wheel of cheese. It's a huge wheel. Did y'all ever watch that like Doug Doug challenge? No.
Starting point is 00:01:29 So there's like a creator called Doug Doug, he would go to a fast food restaurant. And it was him and his three buddies in the car, and they would order whatever the person in front of them ordered. And they would try to do 10 restaurants or 10 fast food joints. And eat all of them? And eat whatever the person in front of them ordered. All at the same time. They'd fail with me. 10 places?
Starting point is 00:01:49 10 places. So, like, they would go to a Taco Bell and say, we'll get whatever's in front of them. And if the person in front of them only ordered one crunch wrap, then they just have to finish one crunch wrap. But then they'd go to KFC and, like, there were, like, two family meals. So then all four of them had to finish like two family meals and three Dr. Peppers or something like that. And then they go to the next place? And they would have to do 10. So they eat at the place?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah. They'll get it and eat it instantly. They eat in their car. So they get it in the drive-thru and they eat in the car and they try to complete 10 restaurants. It's such a good video. Oh, that's a great video. It's fucking insane. Let's run it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Because I'm down. I'm down. I'm down if you're down. Just an excuse to go rogue? Y'all think the four of us could finish it? I mean, it would be heavily weighed by what they got. Buy what they got. I mean, I can eat like...
Starting point is 00:02:36 All-Star MVP. I can eat. At least I think I can eat. We'll take care of a good amount. Yeah. Because like they would, and they would go to, I think the rules,
Starting point is 00:02:48 did you watch it, Matt? I can't remember if you watch it or not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, no, no, no. It's not a stream. Oh, wait, that's the video, though.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Can I eat 10 drive-through meals ordered by strangers? So, I mean, look how he's. It's like profusely sweating because the last place they went to was the KFC and they got a bucket of chicken. A bucket of fried chicken. Oh, they were probably so mad. They were hoping they got like a chicken. They were hoping something like a biscuit or something. They got a bucket of chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And Doug Doug Doug, Doug chugged the gravy. His chat was like, yo, that's dangerous. Yeah. It's great. I mean, look, he's in pain, bro. No, Doug, no. The thing is, no,
Starting point is 00:03:35 don't do it. It depends what time of day you go. I feel like if you go at night, it's harder because that's when people are like going and getting meals for their family to bring back. If you go in the afternoon, it's probably not as bad because people are picking up like, you know, fucking,
Starting point is 00:03:48 a four piece or something. Whatever the fuck is called them. You should. A chicken? No, I don't know. What's the breakfast day? McGrittle?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Mick Riddle. McGrittle. McGrittle. Oh, no. The griddle would be filling, too. It's got syrup in the thing. I love McGreddell's.
Starting point is 00:04:05 What a creation. No, their McGrittle partnered with their hash brown might be like, bro, I went through like a gaming phase where like I would always go to sleep at the time. McDonald's breakfast would go up. So I'd always get a McGrillo. Ashbrown. 2020. 2020.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm living with Aaron. Oh, McDonald's Central. We get really hungry at 4 a.m. every night. So we eat, dude. It was like McDonald's every morning. Like every day at 4.30. We would wait. till it hit 430 because then it would open and we would order.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Bro, you know what I saw? That's diabolical. It's not good. The other day and I actually thought about it, I'm like, wow, the, like, a few times I did, bro, the McDonald's pancake, the syrup, like, won't go into it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, it's made out of paper. They said an insol of a shoe.
Starting point is 00:04:53 That's so true. I'm like, holy shit. Do you guys have, like, a breakfast order, like growing up, McDonald's breakfast that you guys would get? Mine was the hot cakes with sausage, or three pancake sausage, hash brown. If my parents were, what do you mean today? What'd you say? If my parents were allowing and I get two hash browns, but usually, they started shutting it down.
Starting point is 00:05:13 They started like, they started noticing the trajectory I was on and they started like, they would still get her from me, but like they wouldn't let me. I used to be like, all right, mom, ranch, BLT, large. She goes, no, you're getting a medium. That's really funny. He said, no, you're getting a medium. Oh, man. You're in the medium. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 The raspberry iced tea. I used to love McDonald's. You might as well let him get the large. I mean, what's the difference between medium and a large? Yeah, I love how it's minuscule. The cap on that was just the size of the McDonald's. It wasn't like, let's go somewhere else or let's make food at home. It was like, okay, you just can't get the large.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Burger King used to have a king size, medium large king. My boy would walk there and I'd go, give me the whopper with a king fry. It'd be a fucking nice amount of fries. Oh, it used to be crazy back then. Dude, at a firehouse, they're, all the, all the drinks are the same price. So they're like, do you want a small or a large is the same price? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Oh, shit. That's a, that's a, uh, hack, right? Dog. Makes no sense. I don't get the large because the large is a, it, dude, it's a bucket. It, they'll put like the, the medium there and then the large or the, you know, wait, the small, which is like a medium. and then a large or a medium. And then the large is they like put a clear cup in front of you and they do it with two hands.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm like, dude, that's too much. You ever see Jack in the Box's biggest drink? Huge. Bro, I'm no bullshit. This shit's like this big. Wait, really? Carrying it is crazy. It's so big.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Like if you put any pressure, the little pop off. Like, oh, hell, no. That's a big girl. Like a big gulps? Bro. Yes, it's huge. I had a double take one day. I looked at the couple of them.
Starting point is 00:07:01 What the fuck? Stanley and this bitch? This is so funny. Yeah, but I'm down. I'm down to the Doug Doug Challenge. We could stream it, IRL stream it? Dude, you need to...
Starting point is 00:07:14 Who's channel would it go on? Yes. Everybody's. Mine. Monopoly. My dad used to lie to me. We used to go to Wendy's. He'd be like,
Starting point is 00:07:25 the medium here's large everywhere else. Just I'd get the media. I'd rationalize it, my head. Oh, man. All right, let's look at this. It makes sense. Japan, Hong Kong, Australia, America. Wait, so ours is bigger, right?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Ours is one and a half times bigger than Japan's. Oh, oh, okay, I couldn't, like, my brain couldn't compute this. This would be a great content series. Like, we should just go to Japan and try it. They're McDonald's. Our large is almost twice as big. I heard it's great. I heard every McDonald's, but ours is.
Starting point is 00:07:59 is the best shit of all time. That's what I've heard. Everywhere is great. That's what I heard too. They have like real meat. London, like the UK, great, France, right? No, like, UK's good, but you. I gotta put a stop to the London one.
Starting point is 00:08:11 UK's comparable to ours. They got the curry sauce. They had miracle whip on to make chicken. I was like, no, they did it. They didn't have miracle whip on me. The chicken was sweet. I'm like. Ew.
Starting point is 00:08:20 They might have fucked up. I don't taste like this back home. They might have fucked up. Now, but like, they have different dipping sauces and like just, they have cooler products. Like, I see Joe, Japan is washing. And they have wagu beef. And I'm like, what the fuck am I looking at?
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's McDonald's. We're like, back in the day they used to have ribs and shit, right? The McRib. Yeah, McRib, okay. And that shit, it's slack. Every time it comes back, dude, we used to have them at like the school cafeteria and every time they had them, they would just out. Did you get the chicken meat?
Starting point is 00:08:50 What's the chicken tunders? They'd have like the school ones at school. They wouldn't have like McRibbs for McDonald's. Oh, I thought you said you, they were giving out McRibbs at your school. like their own version of it and that shit slapped. What was your favorite school lunch? French bread pizza. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Dude, double dog Tuesdays? Mine was probably pizza day too. Like the square one that looked like Elios, but it was not Elios. I think the Nacho Day. Or, um, chicken shoe strings. You look like you just had a flashback. Chicken shoe strings were fired too. I'm just thinking.
Starting point is 00:09:21 You were like this. Well, no. No, my school promoted obesity. And the chicken sandwich. They had a good chicken sandwich. My school promoted obesity. My school was unofficially promoting obesity. It was a full kitchen because, like, it wasn't pizza day.
Starting point is 00:09:32 It was pizza every single day. And then our high school had a lot of options. Yeah, high school. They were let me get cookies at 10 a.m. Oh, same, so, same. I used to walk up, get two cookies 10 a.m. And then go and then go out of the gym locker room to get ready for gym. They were a doll.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I was filthy, man. Oh, that's great. I was eating a lot in high school. I think about how much I was eating in high school and it's crazy now. Because if I ate that now, dude, how I would. my metabolism must have been insane. Like the disgusting schedule mixed with not giving a fuck just game all night, wake up, go to quick check,
Starting point is 00:10:06 get a sandwich Arizona ice tea. Milano cookies eat, wake up, do it again. Malano cookies. Damn. For real. I used to game until like 4 a.m. Wake up at 6 for school. I wouldn't even do my hair.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I wet my hair and I put a hood on and I pressed the hood down so my hair would stay down. I was fucking filthy. Damn. I would just just so it stays down Well I only showered in the morning in high school Because I started caring
Starting point is 00:10:32 But I remember school and shit like that I didn't give a fuck Well it's not me some days I didn't I used to shower at night Before High school I started shower in the morning Probably like junior year
Starting point is 00:10:45 Before that I used to shower at night only Really? I used to because I used to I couldn't get up early I had to because I was like the hardest person To wake up in the entire world I was like a bolder Dude that shit was
Starting point is 00:10:54 My mom used to lose her mind Yeah I can't Because my alarm one wake me up and then so now weirdly I wake up to alarms and like I'm not I used to be a much deeper sleeper. I'm not sure because it was the obesity or whatever, but I was way deeper of a sleeper. I just wouldn't wake up. I getting up in the morning used to be fucking torture. I just can't believe that's our that was our schedule in high school. Like dude, I'd roll up and everybody would, you know how people would hang out outside of the high school before the doors would open?
Starting point is 00:11:22 I don't know if y'all did that. So in our high school like there was like a little like lobby area outside of our high school and everybody would. just chill there until they open the doors. And the dude, we would be out there at 6.45 a.m. Like, 6.45, the doors were open at 7. We had to be in class at 7.30. Like, dude, that's an insane schedule. Bro.
Starting point is 00:11:41 That's an insane schedule. It makes me sick. Like, we get out at three. And then soccer practice. Like, dude, that's fucking crazy to think about. Go to sleep at five, like two hours later. Someone's waking you up to go get dressed and walk 10 blocks in this. Oh, yes, weather.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, I'd game to like two or three and then wake up at 6.30. It was like zombie movie. And I'd sleep in my study halls. Yeah, no, dude. My first period was in high school was math. Bro, I slept every day. I slept every day. I forgot what that class is called.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I got kicked out of it one day. I would do this. I'm not left-handed. I would put my, if the teacher was here, I'd put my pencil in my left-hand and a paper down and hold it and then I would fall asleep like this. Well, that's impressive. Yeah. Just so the teacher was,
Starting point is 00:12:35 I was blatant. I was like, yeah, me too. Me too. Oh, God, me too. I was blatantly sleeping. Yeah, no bullshit. I remember this day. One day I got kicked out of this class.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Like, no bullshit. It was crazy. We got our report cards, right? I'm not telling no lies on this story. It's crazy shit ever. They do got something up on projector. Like some history class. I forgot what the hell we were doing.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And we're talking about the report cards. that I ask him a question and he goes we're not talking about that right now. I'm like, what? I was just like baffled like, what? And he's like, he said something. I can't remember. He goes, are you high? I'm like, and I never smoked in my life at this point by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And he's like, and I'm like, are you high? And then he kicks me out the classroom, right? He kicks me out. Bro, I got suspended until I had to go take a drug test. What? No swear to God. Bro, my mom showed up the next day blacking. on the teacher yeah I can imagine
Starting point is 00:13:30 that shit was crazy I mean I was happy but yeah you get off my mom was like tell me right now have you ever smoked to eat like you're good I've never smoked to eat oh nowadays oh I'd have been like
Starting point is 00:13:46 butter about to take that trip ma at that time yeah so HCS is this weekend yeah I'm I'm excited for it man I'm fucking competitive Halo hasn't been out for a long, long time, but the only fucking problem is
Starting point is 00:14:04 CDL is literally conflicting with it. But it's been since Seattle, right? Yes, it's the first event. October. Yeah, first event. So it's their first event since October. Well, they've had like many like online things and they've had like... Those don't...
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, this is like the first real. This is the first real one. So yeah, it's exciting. Straight up exciting. I'm excited. It's going to be hard though, again with the CDL. obviously we're doing our watch parties for that. So a lot of people are probably going to expect us to watch the HCS as well.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But we're going to have to figure that out. I'm sure you guys will be able to throw up stuff in between games. No, we can't. Can't why? No. Why? The CDL watch party. Can't throw fucking Halo up during the CDL watch party.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Wait, we would get in trouble for that? I think so. Really? Pretty sure, yeah. There's no way, man. But there's a possibility we can do it afterwards. but then we'll see we'll figure it out but yeah I'm excited
Starting point is 00:15:00 HCS it's here I wish we could go to the event honestly I'm pretty pretty fucking salty we can't go to the event because it's at ESA too it's like it's like perfect adventure is great man yeah it's a two day match it's two days right two days on Friday or two matches Friday yeah
Starting point is 00:15:15 but Friday's pool play a halo so it's like pool play I'm not gonna lie for the HCS unless we're playing or like there's a good matchup it's kind of hard to get through but once Saturday and Sunday roll around, it's obviously very enjoyable to watch. Pool play's tough. Yeah, pool play.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Especially in Halo. I mean, in Halo, there's three teams that are so far above everyone else. Yeah. It's also different. Because, like, I feel like, like back when we had pool play, even the teams that weren't well known, just because you're in the call duty community, you know who those guys are. Like, you know how good a certain team is.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I feel like we're just going in blind with some of these Halo teams. It's like we know, you know, like, optic phase. Space Station. And actually look at this. I believe the schedule has been rigged for us because there's two matches Friday. I'm assuming this is the Friday. Their first match is at 430.
Starting point is 00:16:09 So we'll probably maybe be able to watch their first match. Oh, they played at 7.30 versus complexity. Yeah. Who's on complexity now? Do we know? They have a completely new roster. They got that Carmaya guy. It's a brand new roster?
Starting point is 00:16:24 They got a lot of new pieces. but they're actually pretty solid. I think they're the fourth seed. So we're not even the highest seed in our pool. Complexity is. Really? But they got Carmaya. I fucking,
Starting point is 00:16:35 I can't even tell you. Maybe cycle? Remember that cycle kid? Maybe he's on complexity? Yeah, cycle's good. I don't know exactly who's on it right now. Yeah, cycle. Tusk.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Oh, this is Monsters team. Oh, my boy, collect. Oh, Chances on this team. Oh, I thought Carmeo is on it. Maybe I'm treaking. Quicken. Yeah, monster. So yeah, they're the highest seed in our pool.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So should be an interesting match. I think we got them now. We got a new roster this year. Obviously, we got Dead Zone, aka the Penguin. Yep. In for APG. So we'll see how they do, first event. I'm excited to see what the boys got.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Hometown crowd. I'm actually... Hometown crowd, yep. Because of the incentives from the off-season event, like last November, this will be the vision that I shoot. I'm shooting a vision this month. Are you doing the Halo team? The Halo team and Miami.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And maybe like a watch party segment. Really? Yeah, yeah. So the watch party's going to be lit for Miami. So just to, you're going all out. It's like a vision episode. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I mean.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You guys are going to have. Yeah, they raise like, uh, what? You know, that event raised like 200K. So like I can't, I'm not going to cut any corners, you know. Like, it's going to be like upload of the optic. channel's vision. Yeah, I mean, I haven't asked Rod yet, but it's going up on the channel. Yeah, I'd like to help on the channel. If you're making a vision about the Halo team,
Starting point is 00:18:01 the cod team, I don't know what's going on. A small segment for the watch party, it's going to be on the main channel. I'm hype. I hope it comes back. What if like, hypothetically, I guess there's no way to say now, it goes crazy. Half a million views. That's not going to, but. What if it does? But what if it goes crazy? That's no mindset. Are you willing on the public record to consider bringing it back. No. Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 00:18:26 What the fuck? You're out of your mind. All right. I thought I tried. I mean, I tried. I thought it'd be, thought he'd at least.
Starting point is 00:18:35 This is where you lie. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Okay, ask me again. Yes, I'll think about, yeah, maybe. It's possibility. It's possible, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:44 We could. Miami's going to be fun, though. But I think Miami for us is going to be chiller than like if we were to went in like previous years. Like our current plan? So you guys ever going to the venue? No. We might do like a meet and greet, but I mean, so again, it's not at a conventional,
Starting point is 00:18:58 it's not at a like normal CDL venue. It's like a convention center. And there was a lot of hoops and hurdles for us to be able to actually go to the event. Like we had to pay for, we had to pay to go to the event basically. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say that. Right. It made no sense. Riley, are we allowed to say that we had to pay to go to the event in Miami?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Are we allowed to say that we had to pay to be in the venue? Hector said it. on the watch party. Yeah. So basically, we had to pay to be at the venue and it was a pretty substantial amount. Like, it just wouldn't make sense. I also, so my take on the being for the watch party, I only think it's super impactful to be at the venue if there's like an immersive feel to it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So for example, in Toronto, when you watch the watch party, you can see the crowd and the stage behind us. That makes sense to be at the venue. Boston, they gave us a sick setup. We had two players come on for probably a combined 20 minutes, but we were just in a room. Like, I feel like what we're doing from Miami is going to be, you're going to know where in Miami. You're going to see it. And I feel like the more immersive, I feel like that hits harder than us being at like a random venue in a random room.
Starting point is 00:20:07 We got like an Airbnb. It's going to be like, oh, you see the water in the background, or trees. These guys are in Miami. And I feel like that is just some way more like immersive feeling for everybody at home. It's like, oh, hell yeah. Like we're watching the boys in Miami. It's going to be fucking dope. It's going to be dope.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I was kind of on the fence about it because, I mean, same thing. I was like, if we're not going to be at the venue, what's the fucking point of going? But I think we should still be there. I mean, what if the boys win, too? It's like, I'd hate to not be in the city if they win and be able to like go celebrate.
Starting point is 00:20:36 If the boys win and we're in Miami, it's going to be fucking filthy. We might stay till Tuesday. It's going to be filthy. But we can't stay till Tuesday because then we have the softball game. So never mind. We can't. The softball game is that Tuesday? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 We can't stay till Tuesday. That a Zool. Never mind. They got us fucking On the river. They got us fucking bing-l-l-l-lim-lim. I mean, I'm praying I'm able to play in that shit. But I'm also.
Starting point is 00:21:02 How's your like? I mean, it's still fucking sore as fuck. That's the only thing I'm like, put it this way. It feels better. But right now, like, let's just say I had no shoes on and I want to take my sock off, like how I would do it my right foot. I can't even get my foot over to my right foot to do it. Oh, you need to get that checked out.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That's not sore. Like, look, I can easily just take off my sock like this, but look, I can't. Yeah, why haven't you got to check that? I don't want to scare you or like... I'm going to have to miss the wedding, bro. Long way away. Do you think I... That's a long way away.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You think I'm trolling. We'll get you steroids shots before you miss the wedding. That'd be nice. Preferably a wheelchair with one of you guys pushing, but... I got you. You kidding me? You're not getting like pushing a fucking rock up a hill. I got you.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I got you. Yeah, I'm excited. We got a lot of dope shit happening coming here shortly. So I'm hype. We got back-to-back majors. We got HTS and then major two for COD. So it's going to be fun two weeks for sure. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:12 This is where it starts ramping up. I feel like our offseason is so boring. And also our CDL schedule is terrible too, where it's like. Dude, it's horrible. There should not be five online qualifier weeks. It's like, it's like a slow bleed where it's like, can you just give us the major already? Like five, like five is too much. I think last year is that the three online qualifiers and the event was great.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I don't think there was really many complaints about it besides the fact that people wanted more matches, more majors, whatever. Well, four would be cool if they were implementing one of those things where, like, remember people were winning money in the matches, like when they were playing each other or bounty matches or something. That'd be cool. But, well, they definitely. Five's a little crazy, I think. It's a little bit. I don't know. Wait till the end.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Remember I told you? Oh, yeah. When the major three qualls start, we have like, I think three months straight every single weekend. I'm pretty sure. Wait, what do you mean? Once major three starts, so after this major, there's like a three week break. Major three? There's a three week break after this major?
Starting point is 00:23:09 Like two, it's either two or three. Like two and a half week break until matches is right back. But then major three, it's five weeks major. so that's six weeks four days off in between four more weeks another major so it's basically 11 weeks straight oh oh oh I thought you were saying there's going to be a huge break again
Starting point is 00:23:28 no no no after major two there's a break and then that's like the last break we got to get the surgery done it's 11 weeks straight holy shit yeah so it's going to be schedule is interesting one man it's going to be pretty crazy down the stretch for the boys trying to fucking balance streaming on Twitch
Starting point is 00:23:44 doing the watch party fucking doing optic content It's going to be all It's going to be Doing the ride Content Yeah The next
Starting point is 00:23:55 The three months are going to be pretty Pretty chaotic For sure Yeah Are we going to Jake Paul Vers Tyson Yeah it's right here That AT&T
Starting point is 00:24:04 AT&T Yeah That's gonna be fucking crazy Yeah Bro that crowd is crazy When is that? When is that? I don't know when it is
Starting point is 00:24:14 Around the corner though Dude Mike Tyson is fighting Jake Paul? Must be getting a bag. What do you guys think about that? I mean, that's really what it is. I mean, bro, it's the first.
Starting point is 00:24:24 So Showtime disappeared. July 20. Showtime is out of boxing. HBO's out of boxing. There's the zone, top rank. Those are only two. So like for people to fight on their platform, like let's just say tank,
Starting point is 00:24:38 they're going to have to give them like a good amount of money for him to keep coming back and fighting their fighters. But Netflix just got into boxing, like streaming. They're like hosting it now. and these two are the first two that are fighting on Netflix. All the boxes are about to get paid if Netflix is starting to throw events.
Starting point is 00:24:52 So Netflix is live streaming. If I had to take a guess, I would say it's probably gone. It's got to be upwards of 15, 20 mil each like guaranteed for the fight. In order to get 60-year-old Tyson a train and like, because like it's probably a deal
Starting point is 00:25:08 where like I could be wrong because Mike Tyson probably wants to not go out there and just whatever. But I feel like Netflix, if they're going to, if they're going to pay you a bunch of money, they're probably like, you have to get in shape. You have to, like, train.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Like, it has to be an actual fight. You can't just collect the check, go out there. Someone said they're fighting with 18-ounce gloves on it, headgear. But I doubt that's real. I don't know what that means. It's super, like, fad-ass gloves, like, that they spar with it for practice and head-gier. I mean, I doubt it, but. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Almost sad. I mean, no, that's... I think he's 54. Oh, is 50? Mike Tyson? I think he's 60. You think he's 60? You think he's 60?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Is he? Oh, 57. What do you think? Nice one. You watch boxing. What do you think? What is this? Mike Tyson, if it's not rigged.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I mean... I keep seeing the clips of him... It's Netflix. There's a way that this could get. I keep seeing clips of him when he was training for his last fight against... Who did he fought... Jones Jr.? Yeah, Roy Jones Jr.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah. And though... I mean, dude, he was moving. But no one won that fight. So he didn't really want to This if it's a real fight I honestly take Mike Tyson He is 30 years older than
Starting point is 00:26:24 Jake Paul yeah that's crazy If he just off the rip goes in for the kill He's gonna kill him He is 30 years older He live his difference of being older than Jake Paul is longer than Jake Paul's been alive He's lived like that 30 years Jake Paul's 27
Starting point is 00:26:39 Longer than we've been alive too Yeah I hope he juices the fuck up for this Just fucking every Royd every yeah because if it's an exhibition and not a real fight think about it
Starting point is 00:26:49 it's probably no actual rules probably could have right up it's got to be a real fight I mean there's probably like no there's no way he was not on Mike Tyson's record on his record no way there's no way this is on his record
Starting point is 00:26:59 oh no I didn't mean in that capacity I didn't that's not going towards you I mean it's like threat I think it's going to look like an actual boxing I hope that's what I I doubt they're going to use the big gloves like I hope it's real
Starting point is 00:27:11 if they fill out AT&T stadium for that I mean Maybe, but if you're signing the contract and you're Mike Tyson, you're 57 years old fighting a 28-year-old. He's probably got a hell of an ego, man. Mike Tyson, if I was Mike Tyson, I'd probably think I'd beat the fuck out of anybody. A hundred thousand percent. He's just probably like fucking Tyson.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Exactly. Dude, have you ever seen the clip of Mike Tyson was on some podcast? And they asked him, like, who, if you could have fought anyone in their prime, who would it be? People were thinking he was going to say Muhammad Ali. And he said Achilles. evil like he was like yeah I wish I could fight like the greatest fighter of all time Achilles what's like Troy what a fuck have you guys seen that movie
Starting point is 00:27:55 I actually haven't oh my god Brad Pitt oh you haven't seen Troy oh you gotta watch Troy oh it's about Achilles it's so good really oh he's so good I might watch that tonight I've seen it fucking dude I watched a I had never seen Mays runner
Starting point is 00:28:13 and I watched it on the plane come home from Vegas Like the first one? Yeah, great. Yeah, great. Yeah, he's on is great. Great movie. I didn't realize. You seen the Scorch trials?
Starting point is 00:28:19 I think the Scorch trials were my favorite one. Because the original ones where they're like in the little, that little forest area and they like go in. Go in the maze. Yeah, yeah. So it evolves past that. Oh, yeah, you got to watch. There's two more, right? Yeah, the Scorch trials.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I kept here, people kept telling me that the other ones are not as good. I think you're making a new one, too. I like the first one. I like the Scorch Trials a lot, though, because it's like, they're like out in the world. Is that the second one or the third one? The second one. Oh, you like the second one better? Oh, I got to watch that.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I got to watch that shit there. Is there a new one coming out? I don't really remember the death care. I hope. Maze Runner 4. Oh my God. That gets me so fucking gas. Now I'm going to go back and watch all the Maze Runners.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I don't think it's the same cast though. I don't think it's Dylan O'Brien. They know what they're doing. New movie comes out. You know everyone's going back watching all the old ones. Watching the new one. Have you all watched Dune yet or no? Still on our list.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Oh, so the, oh. I'm gonna watch it when... This is a prequel. I mean, you gotta be locked. You gotta be locked for that, though. Yeah, Blake and I watch... Blake and I watched the first one, so we're gonna watch the second one.
Starting point is 00:29:20 So I gotta not get any fucking spoilers or anything. Dune is like... Dune's one of those movies where if you're not locked and you like miss one fucking, like, talking segment, you could miss like so much of the plot. I watched the first one high and I was like... Like, I don't know what the fuck I just watched.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It was gorgeous though. Like beautiful. The only thing I remember is that it's a battle for that drug. The spice? Yeah. It's like a bunch of people. want that for economic prosperity. I'm gonna watch it again.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Something like that. A show of all time. What show? Supranos. This has Pope. So good. I said no Pope. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I watch you a Will and Mike. Bro, please watch it. It's so good. Supranos? Maybe it's different for me or probably you'll maybe because I'm in Jersey. So like, well, I grew up in Jersey. So it's like, there's behind my brain, there's some fatuation with it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. You hear those accents and stuff? Like, it's just, it was, that imprison break was really good to me. But I also haven't watched a lot of shit. You got to watch the wire. The wire's HBO. If you're like serious shit, the wire is like probably one of the best. The wire is about like the drug game in Baltimore where it's like it follows the
Starting point is 00:30:32 the gangsters and the detective's chasing them. Really? It's so good. It was like the staple HBO show after, I think. think after the Sopranos, right? Yeah, it was. It was like Sopranos, then the Wire, then is Entourage? Was that HB?
Starting point is 00:30:50 No, actually. Yeah, Entourage is really good, too. I watched that as well. Entourage is godland. Yeah. It's like the best feel good show I've ever watched. Because like you don't really, I mean, you can, you can watch that while you're eating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You can watch that while you're chilling. It's so good. But like, if you're in Game of Thrones, obviously. Game of Thrones, you kind of have to be locked to watch. See, I never saw that. Game of Thrones. I was talking about this in my stream. Is there, what's the current, like, back then, every Sunday, Game of Thrones was like
Starting point is 00:31:21 a spectacle. It was everybody's tweeting about it, everybody's watching. And then before that was breaking bad. What show is that right now? Is the House of the Dragon? I mean, there isn't one. There isn't one. I feel like House of the Dragon is the closest.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Also, The Last of Us was pretty big, I feel like. Last of Us was big. Last of us. We had watch parties for it. So like we'd like all like come to a place and watch. But that's how you know a show is really good is if if you gather with your friends to do a little night around. There's not like the last of us, House of the Dragon. I want to.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Succession I've heard. I've never watched it though. I've never watched it though. I want to say that I feel like the competition now with just with shows in general is so much higher than when Game of Thrones was out. Like there's so many good shows right now. I feel like people are watching so many different things. Like Game of Thrones was like the show. now it's like there's so many good shows
Starting point is 00:32:13 I get what you're saying but dude you gotta think about what when Game of Thrones was out the office was out New Girl was out Parks and Rec was out Like that's those aren't like shows though Those are like sitcoms Wait wait was the office still airing
Starting point is 00:32:26 Like new episodes during Game of Thrones Yeah I was watching Game of Thrones in like 2000 I'm talking like fucking high budget 14 years year 2020 2013 it came out 2014 so it was probably I mean it was definitely towards the end of the office
Starting point is 00:32:40 but 2011 yeah what so I I started watching Game of Thrones in season three or season two that just pissed me off game of Thrones came out in 2011 dude I graduated high school almost 10 years ago where's the time why I think about it it doesn't it didn't make sense because I heard my dad my whole life talking about it but I'm like shut up dad like he's he's just like it's gonna pay it's gonna it had you go to your reunion uh that's not even plan yet I have no idea Our reunion was during COVID so I didn't go. I probably will go.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like, I feel like that's something that like... You should go because you're... You get to see who all got big and who all got, like, who all got weird. You got hotter. So you should definitely go. Yeah, but... You got skinny and hot. I'm not thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm not thinking that way. I'm just... You should. I mean, that's all I would think if I was in. But, uh, but he had to do my dad. My whole life was like, it's going to go like this. And then it's not until moments like now. I'm like, oh my God, I really did.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Because it's all nine years ago. It genuinely feels like a few years ago. Like I can still, I still have vivid memories of like going into high school or like it just, it's just crazy how time works. Convo for a different day. Keeps going. Yeah. Keeps on ticking.
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Starting point is 00:36:46 slash optic. TikTok. Have you all seen this? I already asked you guys this off the podcast but I can't believe you guys haven't seen this done with the 90s trend. No, what is it? So there's this guy on TikTok
Starting point is 00:36:57 apparently I don't know if it's been out but all the 90s games are individually uploaded on YouTube. Like all the 1996, 1997 1998 games They're all uploaded on YouTube Okay
Starting point is 00:37:11 And this guy goes through and watches them And just talks about how trash everyone is And he's like obviously really Exaggerated with it But he goes, we're done with the 90s And he'll show like He was like Jordan had no left And he always
Starting point is 00:37:27 He just goes through and shows all the different plays And people airball and shots In like the NBA finals And Went back and I watched old NBA It's not this guy. I think this guy's trying to debunk your guy or something. Magic Johnson and reports were exaggerated.
Starting point is 00:37:49 This is the 91 NBA Finals and for being the best player in the world, Michael Jordan is left wide open. Like there's, it's actually crazy watching it and seeing how evolved the game is. Because like Magic Johnson's airballing. He's hitting the side of the class. That would never happen right there. That would never happen right there. That would never happen.
Starting point is 00:38:08 That's crazy. Missing layups. That was Pippin, wasn't it? Yeah, I think that would never happen. They're going to be in the comments like, Bose, you know what? Yeah, I mean, look at how crazy it looks. Oh, so Hector's delusional. No, that's why Hector's Dillusional.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I mean, watching the pace of the game, it looks like a different game. Like, just from watching like just this. This looks like me and gym class. Get up, Jordan. Let me see something. Huh. Hell no. I mean it looks so weird it looks so weird to even watch
Starting point is 00:38:46 Damn all right that was Gordon goes to the right here and the defense literally goes the other way this would be playing on not top 10 for probably a month if this happened in today's era god damn He just threw it off his head but i really didn't know that he just brown would have had 70 and for all the talks of like great defense maybe 80 dudes are just tackling each other.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I'm not completely dismissing someone. That was not. That was sick. It's fair share of great players. This is infuriating watching, you know, the best player with just no defender even close to him. And every single clip I showed you. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. The eye test that that looks kind of fugase. So that, that wasn't, I mean, that's not the guy, but that's basically what's been going on. If you scroll through TikTok, like there was this one guy, his whole feed, he was just screaming, we're done with the 90s. Everyone was garbage. And it would just like, it would show a clip of just like something as crazy as that where somebody would just miss a layup or Michael Jordan always going to his right hand.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And he's still like, Michael Jordan had no left. And then obviously that goes viral. And so there's a bunch of like people, uh, the comments are like if Kyrie, if Kyrie Irving was playing in the 1990s, they would execute him for witchcraft like shit like that. No, no, they would. And it was, it was real, dude, it was so funny. and Nick and I see it and we're just sending clips to Hector and Hector's not responding Is you be getting tight?
Starting point is 00:40:16 He's got to be tight. You got to meet him? Kyrie, hell yeah. Gotta meet Kyrie before he's out of here. Yeah, Kyrie. He was just in deep Ellum. Like they built like a court on a street. He was out there hooping.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Really? Yeah, they were like shooting outside the shoe store and shit. We might have to cut this, but whenever we did Optic Night, Kyrie asked for a jersey One of the optic jerseys And he said he rocks for the optic I don't know I heard that too
Starting point is 00:40:43 But like Who Where was it Where and who I don't know Who does he Does Kyrie don't follow me He asked his manager
Starting point is 00:40:52 I don't think he follows He's probably like not on social media Does Kyrie do you on Instagram On Twitter You imagine he goes and looks His follow back He probably does That'd be appalling
Starting point is 00:41:04 I don't think so That'd be appalling But that's what That's what Yeah That's what page said Page said That Kyrie's manager
Starting point is 00:41:12 Hit her up And said Kyrie likes the jersey And likes Optic Wants to do something Wants to do something Oh come on the podcast Got Rhee
Starting point is 00:41:21 Neat you We're both from Jersey We chop it up That's what That's what Paige said She could be lying You know she is I'm just kidding
Starting point is 00:41:29 She's like a liar You know she is Lying that's insane why did I just hear Matt Craig burst out laughing page is hilarious though why I'm page what you doing not babysitting Tom Brady's kids with Selena
Starting point is 00:41:42 what dude I was watching I was watching the David Beckham documentary and during the first like five episodes of that they talk about their kids name is Brooklyn and I was like oh shit that's cool like I've never heard a person named Brooklyn before that's a cool name
Starting point is 00:42:01 and so then I'm talking about to page and she was like yeah I was hanging out with my friend and then like Brooklyn came over I was like I was just watching a documentary I was like I'd never heard of the name Brooklyn I've heard it twice in a week I was like oh shit fun fact David Beckham's kid's name is Brooklyn she was like yeah that's who I was hanging out with I was like that's like that's hilarious dude she doesn't I mean I don't think she understands like how she doesn't do it like on purpose she's not like just talking just like casual to her casual talking Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh, dude, page is hilarious. So Shotsie's been slamming people and people have been talking about whether he's a superstar or not, is he? Is he? He is, yeah. I mean, he... Two-time champs.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yep. I mean, he's just... Right now, it's so hard. Superstars, I feel like in Call Duty, change throughout the year, kind of. Like, I feel like some players... There are a lot of stars. Like, there are a lot of really good players.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'm not sure what categorized someone as a superstar where it's like, stars can have Superstar series all the time. I think Superstars are someone you build a team around. That's kind of how I... Okay. That's kind of how I would look at it too. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That's fair. I mean... And I think you build a team around Shotsie. At least that's what pro players say. Yeah, I mean, the way he's playing right now is a superstar. I don't think that's really debatable. I mean, he just went crazy against, I guess, what people consider the best team in the world. I'm not sure where people would rank Ultra now after their loss to us.
Starting point is 00:43:32 phase, I'm not sure if they get the benefit of the doubt because they're still the major champions. And like, I kind of feel like they need to be dethroned on land. At the same time, Ultra? Yeah. At the same time, like, Ultra wouldn't have lost a phase and optic in the matter that they did in their prior form, I feel like. So, like, definitely as the year goes on, skill gap gets tighter, other superstar team start picking up the pace. And now it's like, okay, so going it to the major, this is the first time where I genuinely, genuinely feel like any of the top four teams could go win Miami. Yeah. Like, it's going to come down to like just a matchup on that day. Like I think New York, us, New York beat Faze, we saw Fays through Toronto, we saw
Starting point is 00:44:16 us beat Toronto in a Neslo fashion. So it's like, it's kind of like evolving to who's going to, who's going to show up on the day, which is whenever call of duty is always at its best, because you just never know who's going to show up on that day and just play better. I mean, it's been a thing in Call of Duty forever. I mean, I'm excited for the major. I think the top four teams are the only teams that can win, though. I don't think anybody else is... Dude, the drop-off is crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Nobody else is... Even the map count. Can you bring that up? Like, Vegas has been looking a lot better. Thieves have been looking better. Like, there's other teams that could definitely make some noise and upset. Like, Minnesota went from... Minnesota looks just not good now. It's crazy how the year is kind of a...
Starting point is 00:45:00 like I think there's only six teams that can like really compete with each other right now. Map win percentage goes from 83, 83, 80% to 35%. Yeah. From fourth to fifth it goes from 80% to 35%. God damn. 12 wins to six wins. That's wild. The good thing for our boys though is our search is looking better, at least based on the
Starting point is 00:45:26 Ultra Series. Like when you beat first and foremost, when you beat a team like that, Ultra in search in that manner, it kind of like just boosts your team confidence in search, and it kind of makes you a better search team just by default. Like even if, like, hypothetically, let's say that it was two fluke search maps, the fact that you won those two maps make your team a better search team undeniably, just because like you have so much more confidence now on it, and thinking back to the Boston major, the reason we lost a phase was really search. I mean, if we clutched up one of those searches, we take out phase, and that could have been a different tournament.
Starting point is 00:45:59 But the only thing is, is you're talking so much about the search, but we lost both HPs to Toronto. So you've got to keep all game modes consistent. I agree with that, but I think my thing with search is I feel like the skill gap in search, like I feel like the hard point within the top four teams will always be competitive. Like I think New York can take a map and heart point off us on any given day and vice versa. And I think that goes the same with all the top four teams. That's fair. feel like search is like a more skill gap game mode where it's like there are teams that are
Starting point is 00:46:32 clear cut better in search consistently. You know what I'm saying? So the fact that we're playing better in search consistently, I feel like matters more than that oh and two in Harpoint that day. You're thinking that's what separates the top four teams. Because I feel like I don't expect us to go show up to an event and not win hard points. Well if Toronto is just that different in HP. I mean Toronto was the team that set the HP record. Then we nezlo them. We have to Nesloam every time. 2.35, fuckers. There's so many different variables in Cod.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I'm excited for our match this weekend against New York. We play them last match of the split, literally last match, 5 p.m. on Sunday. So I'm excited to see that because New York, I feel like New York's not as strong as Toronto and HP, but their search and destroy and control are very solid. I mean, if you look at the search and destroy records from the top four teams, we're the only outlier.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Like, the other three are like fucking just dominant in search, like 16 and 4 you know like just always up there in search and New York's the same way so yeah I'm excited we played New York in our first match of the season pretty sure and I think we lost both searches to them I remember us losing a Game 5 search on Terminal to them
Starting point is 00:47:38 to start the year so get the rematch see where we're at honestly if we beat New York in semi fashion to what we beat Toronto in I would say I mean us and Faze are the favorites going into the tournament but obviously we got to beat new york new yorks in their slouches new yorks the only other undefeated team in this split
Starting point is 00:48:00 um so yeah it's gonna be a fucking it's gonna be a battle i can't wait to see the boys go up against hydra kiz you know i love that sub matchup this event's gonna be great this event this event this event's yeah it's gonna be very competitive the only issue is is that it's like it's like the same thing with halo it's like if you have a league like this where it's just so fucking top-heavy. Thursday's going to be so much fun to watch
Starting point is 00:48:25 because it's winter's bracket. So just by default, it's going to be fun to watch. You're looking at the top eight seeds play against each other. There's always room for an upset in the top eight seats. You're like, you never know. Then Friday, it's the loser's bracket matches. And Fridays might be a rather. You take a nap.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Friday might be a little bit of a snoozer. I might be off the cucumber marks. Yeah. I think we could get some drinks. I'm down. Are you going to be there? I'll be there Saturday morning. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I might be down for some drinks. I'm just a liar. Where is Saturday morning at the event or with us? What do you mean? Probably both. Oh, okay. Because I'll probably do some segments at the event, some with you guys. But then Saturday, Sunday, Saturday's where we get the winner semifinals.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You know, that's when you start to see some of these top four teams start matching up against each other. And then there's a couple losers bracket matches. And then Sunday, Sunday, I'm hoping Sunday is literally the top four. And it's just a fucking bad. That would be fucking God. Like if the top four seeds are all in on. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. But it never works that way.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Like Vegas might come out upset. The Royal Ravens are winning the whole event. Did you imagine somehow just like one of those random teams that everyone's written off just comes out in place his top four? I would love it. I feel like Rocker did that. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, right now the only teams that even have a chance of doing that are like Vegas thieves.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Maybe Boston, but Boston's probably in losers' bracket. So it's like... It's so hard to make a run from losers bracket. Unless you're like a super strong team. But Seattle hasn't looked great. Miami's been struggling. Carolina's been struggling. L.A.G.'s been super struggling.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So, yeah, it's, I mean, Minnesota even's been super struggling. It's like, and they just got fourth at the major. You know, it's... It's been interesting. This year's been hard to call. It's like, unless it's a top four team going against the bottom team, you just never know who's going to fucking come out and play good. It's like besides the top four, everyone else's a question.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I remember Zen calling it before the rosters were even locked. Like before the roster announcements had even been happening, and Zen was like, there's four teams. Oh, yeah. And so, like, it's crazy that it's actually panned out that way. Because I didn't. When you said it, I was like, really? Like, there's not going to be any sort of, like, new up-and-comer.
Starting point is 00:50:39 There are pros and cons to a high-skill gap game. When you're a top team and a top player, you'd prefer the high-skill gap game. I feel like when it comes to the casual viewer and you love watching CDL, a game like last year is probably more fun to watch because there were just more competitive series. So many question marks. Back then with a higher TK, just more teams and more players can compete on a more consistent basis.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So way more matches last year were more competitive than this year. I mean, this year, some of these matches are a snooze fest when you just know, okay, this team realistically probably a zero chance of winning. So I don't know. I mean, yeah, snoo's fest, but I think it's. I hope we get, we need at least. like two to four more teams that just actually become good though because I mean we're starting to see the good thing about it is though we're starting to see
Starting point is 00:51:26 some new talent and some new like breakout players coming to the league and I feel like we see it pretty much every year but like you got your Gwyns your Linses is like these rookies that are coming in and actually look fucking nasty like after this year like imagine like Gwen and Lynn and join a team together like instantly that's a dirty little duo right there and then they find two veteran player you know what I'm saying like our league had like trades like I wish I wish there were it was a more worse then no but well the top heavy would be even crazier no but think right now let's say let's say gwin and Lynn got traded to a team together and then and then they're paired up with an
Starting point is 00:52:03 AR what trade would even be worth that no one well well that's because Gwen's Carolina's best player that's the issue is that most trades have a losing team in the trade but I just wish I just wish players have more flexibility to go to different different teams. Because like... From challengers or some shit. Like for example, let's look at, I mean, I guess we can use Royal Ravens as an example because of their current seed.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Like, let's say Gwyn could go to a team that's 6 through 8 right now. Like, imagine Gwynne going, like, it's just... Ooh, Gwyn on Miami would be decent. Gwyn on a lot of these teams would be decent. Gwyn on any team would probably... Gwyn on pretty much any team. I mean, we're glazing, but he'd probably improve literally any of the non-top four teams instantly.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Like if there was a roster change. I do like that. Imagine Gwen on Vegas? That team would be fucking filthy if Quinn was on Vegas. That team would actually be gross. Yeah. Like they'd be content. Maybe not contenders, but they'd have serious, like, upset potential.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Yeah, I don't know. With Nero and Attach playing the way they are? I just don't know how you fix this. Like, I'm not sure if there's a solution to dethroning. Not dethroning, but like making a non-top-four team competitive enough to be a... There's not a single team. Even Vegas, if they play one of the top four teams right now,
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'm very confident in the top four teams. Oh, yeah, 100%. If someone's going to do the pull an upset, I would say Vegas, but, like, I don't know how you actually fix it, honestly. You don't. It's just the lay of the land. It's just what it is. Yeah, it's just, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:53:40 But I feel like... Are I tripping, but I feel like this is the craziest that's been throughout a call duty history. Like, I feel like you never used to have a discrepancy like this. What? Like, as far as top heavy? Like top four top heavy. I might agree with him. What?
Starting point is 00:53:56 No, dude. Like four teams that nobody can fuck with? Like, like back then it was like, there was like times where like you had us. Like think of TK back in the day. TK was a top team. You could give TK a competitive series. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I obviously optic.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like if you play Optic and IW, you're getting fucked up. I think maybe Black U.S. too is what I'm thinking about. Black Ops too would impact had their run Impact Coal Optic Maybe you're right honestly I could be wrong I'm just bringing it up Because I mean
Starting point is 00:54:25 There definitely were some dominant teams But I feel like in the CDL era No I don't think this is a lot You never had this many dominant teams Like you never had four fucking powerhouse teams You had an impact I get what you're saying That could win the event
Starting point is 00:54:38 Because maybe in those in those days Like you knew complexity was gonna win Yeah In you guys's day You knew y'all were gonna win or there was one other team that could possibly take you guys in each game. But, like, no, I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:54:52 There's never been four teams. Maybe you're right. Yeah, yeah. Maybe you're right. I thought you meant, like, just top heavy in general. But, like, four teams that could possibly win, maybe not, not. And maybe I'm forgetting. Like, maybe I'm just caught up in the times.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Looking at its graphic work. Complexity, strictly business. So I tweeted this. I tweeted this at a stoplight and forgot I tweeted it. I tweeted 2013 Complexities not winning a map off of current Toronto Ultra and an 11th or an 11 game series
Starting point is 00:55:20 obviously as a troll I'm done with the 90s That comes from the I'm done with the 90s thing That's why I tweeted that Oh okay It was a playoff of that But but but but uh And obviously all the shit with the
Starting point is 00:55:35 Bro look at these bro look at these rosters Tipsy Gucci Stanville Neslo Merck study Rambo Nameless Isn't it crazy What a crazy Shot scump, Clayster, Embos. Parasite Killah Miracles, Ricky.
Starting point is 00:55:51 That team's toxic. That team was toxic. They have Mr. X under complexity. Crazy times, man. I don't know. What do you guys think about that? Because old heads and new guys are always, in any competition ever,
Starting point is 00:56:08 are always going to have differencing a different event. All three of us played in both eras, both generations. current ultra versus 2013 complexity I think current ultra fucking slams there's not even Cole's not even getting a map
Starting point is 00:56:22 I think they're not getting a map well it depends in the game because it doesn't depend on the game If you talk about like The game is also involved so fast Exactly
Starting point is 00:56:30 It's just Toronto plays such a more fast-paced game That's way more up in your face Here's the scenario for me You say Hey there's a million dollar money A million dollar best of 11 series
Starting point is 00:56:42 A month from now in ghosts. Yeah. You guys both scrim. Figure it out how to get as good as you possibly can over the next month. I think they beat them. Toronto, if it's in current,
Starting point is 00:56:55 no, I think Cole would beat Toronto. If it's on a current new gen, Toronto is slamming them. Wait, you think, you think old school, if it's on ghosts?
Starting point is 00:57:02 You think complexity a month from today, both teams start screaming today beats Ultra? Okay. A month from today? Maybe not. If they're all in their primes, yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Nowadays no. All in their primes. Nowadays, See, this is why this is impossible. Because there's no way. On their primes, go to the game. If they're this age, no. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I was like, there's no way. It'd be a good series, but they'd lose. Toronto would lose. I mean, you got to think, you just beat the complexity team with Shotsie and Pred, having never played the game. Well, yeah, but they're also 20-year-olds going against fucking 30-year-olds. If you're talking, taking shot in tequila before their fucking finals. I don't think about it. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:57:45 If you're talking prime versus prime, I genuinely think it's an impossible. It's like a, it's like a generational. A lot of this shit is matchups. What? I don't think it's. A lot of this shit is matchups. Now, if you took the phase team, prime versus Cole,
Starting point is 00:58:01 you gotta think like, when formal came in, when formal came into Cod, people were like, people were like bewildered by his shot. When formal came into Cod. And that was, and he was like the, That was all fucking forever ago.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So like imagine, imagine you take scrap now and put him in there. I think he's already like, what the fuck? Who is this guy? I can't glaze that boner neck. I mean, I'm not, yeah. Boner neck. I don't know his boner neck like that. Mike neck.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Like you know it. I don't know, man. I don't know. It's impossible. It's impossible. We just saw the 90s clips. They're both. I'm going to get trash for this segment.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I'm playing, I'm trolling. I'm playing both sides. You can argue both sides. I don't think anybody has a losing argument there. I feel like if you were a bigger fan back in those days, you'd argue for complexity. And if you're more of a current, you just got into the CDL. You know, that's funny. Hey, can I also say, though?
Starting point is 00:59:00 You could say whatever the fuck you want about, they'd beat us, they'd beat us. But you can't tell me that our era was not way more entertaining. Oh, yeah. So much more entertaining. So much more entertaining. Well, back then. Well, back then. those days so bad.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Back then, people were just professional, man. You had a fight with your girlfriend. It was on Twitter. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we were all kids, man. Like, like, you miss that shit, dude. We were going row. You saw everything.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Like, there was, oh, man. Back then was the best. There wasn't that, like. Your tweet had me crying. And it was LeBron talking to the two girls and it said, play cod pros back at the bar at Thursdays. On Thursday night. Wait, Matt, bring it up.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Happy National Women's Day. That's too funny. Women's hilarious. Dude, that was hilarious. Is that what he said? Yeah, first of all, first of all, happy National Women's Day to the both of you. Is that what he said?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Go look at the clip. That's, dude, that's so funny. Dude, look at that. Oh, bro, we love you. Thank you. Why does she lay on him? Yeah, hold on. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:00:12 That's his bread rate. That's where that new contract's coming from her. there. Wait, really? Oh, yeah. She owns the Lakers. Oh, she's the Lakers owner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Oh. Well, all right. Two years on a mill, bro. Get it. Yeah, that shit's crazy. But yeah, I thought it was funny. Because I saw someone else tweet in the Smash community and said,
Starting point is 01:00:32 they quote retweeted and said, I don't want to, like, I hate to admit it, but this is how Hungry Box moves at events. And I thought it was so funny. So I was like, how could I come? And then I was like, dude, Thursday nights back in the day,
Starting point is 01:00:45 Because you guys, you guys played nobody's on Fridays. So you guys would be- Thursdays were basically like, do whatever you want. It's pool play tomorrow. You guys would be up until like 3 a.m. at the bar. It's pool play. I mean, everybody. It was like, dude, there were so many people just like on Thursday night before the event.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I walked in. Life was great. I walked in on a UMG event. I forgot what it was. And there were so many people at the bar at like 2 a.m. And like, Nate Schott and Pac-Man were like, yelling at each other. Like...
Starting point is 01:01:16 Before the event? Like having a roast battle talking about like... Dude. Was that UMG? We were all at that table? Yeah, UMG DC or... No, it was UMG, it was probably Nashville.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I don't... I can't... Maybe it was. I remember one quote that I know you're gonna... I can't say it here, but I'm gonna say it and you're gonna be like, that was the... That was the time I'm talking about. Who's the guy? There was a guy there.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about here. Oh. The 440 Bayon Bridge guy. 40 South Bay on Brie. Blacked out everywhere he went. Yeah, yeah, dude, that shit was so fun back in the day. But that was at 2 a.m. on Thursday and you guys played on Friday.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And, dude, every pro player was there. See, every pro player. That's what's different about these days is back then it was like an actual big community. Now I feel like it's so separate. It's like teams stay in different hotels. They have their coach. To be fair, it's a lot more professional. There's a lot more money in it now.
Starting point is 01:02:11 So it makes sense. But back then, like, bro, all the Amherstay. We're at the same event. Let's go back. All the, all the, all the characters. It was just fucking. You think if we, if, if, if, if we go away from franchising, that'll ever come back? Because if we go away from franchising, the money's going to go down.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I don't think our, our game is the popping thing anymore. Yeah, it's like, it's not, it's not as pop. Like back then Comcod was like. I don't think. But I don't think you have to be popping in order. Oh, you're saying with, I'm not talking about the girl, the girl part of it. I'm talking about the, the craziness of Thursday nights and like, that I don't. I doubt it, no way.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah, it's long gone. If you missed it, you missed it. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Damn. It was the best you can. Damn when I do anything to go back. Me too. Comratery.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Comrothery, fun. Just random 4 a.m. Waffle house. Like, shit doesn't happen anymore. 4 yam waffle house. You guys play in four hours. Those days were crazy, bro. Oh, man. There were so much fun.
Starting point is 01:03:09 All right, guys. Well, I think that is going to do it for the Optic Podcast. Episode 166. We were yapp yapping today. We were yapping. But it was a lot of fun. We'll see you guys in the next one. Peace amazing.

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