OpTic Podcast - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO OUR COD ROSTER | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 88
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Nobody knew we got back together.
I had people hitting me up like,
yo, let's run it, whatever.
And then I didn't respond to any of them.
Yeah, damn.
And then we just dropped it the next day.
I know you didn't do it on purpose, but that's true.
It was probably the most stressful three nights of like a roster many I've ever been a part of.
Like from waking up till going to sleep, like it was just stressful.
Welcome back to the Optic podcast.
Today is episode 88.
I'm here with Bowles and T2P.
And how long?
It was Hawaii, man. It was great. It was? Yeah, it was awesome. Expensive.
Uh, wait, you had an expensive week, because you went, I, whatever is, you went to Disney, then Universal, then straight to Hawaii?
So we had a nice little, you know, we had a nice little week. It was a good time.
What's your, what's your day consist of in Hawaii in paradise?
Wake up, get the breakfast, which was insane. Best hotel breakfast I ever had. They had like keesh with bacon in it.
I was like, what the fuck?
Like, you don't get this at the Sheridan.
And then like, and then after we eat breakfast,
we'd usually sit up there for like 30 minutes because we,
well, our strategy was because we had a free voucher for breakfast,
so we'd get breakfast for free.
So we would max at breakfast.
Okay.
We'd max at breakfast, and then we'd pretty much either go to the beach
or sit by the pool or do something, whatever,
pretty much all day, get some drinks,
drinks and then we would either we did a luau one night and then we'd pretty usually get like dinner at each of the different resorts like top restaurants so we'd like try everything out what's your favorite spot um I don't know probably this place called uh I think it was called like Nix catch or something and we tried a abalone which is like I don't know if it's indigenous to there is that the right word just hearing you say big words is just funny
I think it's made of the Hawaii.
I don't know.
Might not be, I could be completely...
But it was fire.
It tasted like a McChicken.
You know what's like fish?
But it was like $85.
It was fire.
I said it to the waiter and he looked at me cross-eye.
He was like, I was like it tastes like McChicken.
He was like...
He was this guy...
Yeah.
$85.
You're like, yeah, McChicken.
Well, me and his shared it.
But yeah, it was fire.
And then, yeah, it's pretty much it.
I mean, there were a couple times we were supposed to go zip lining twice.
The first time I woke up with the bum neck.
Second time I got sunburned too bad, which was, we were supposed to go the day that we left,
and I just couldn't go.
And then we were supposed to go snorkeling as well, but my neck was messed up, so I couldn't look down.
So everything that we wanted to do, we could do.
What did you do your neck?
They had really soft pillows.
Straightest snorkeler ever?
I need hard pillows, really soft pillows.
Oh, okay.
And it was the night after we landed.
So we flew like all day
So it was the night after we
The day after we landed and like it just
I guess I like slumped
Like you know you know when you're really tired
Your neck just
Yeah
But it was really good
It was a really good time
No dolphin swimming
No dolphin swimming
No dolphin
I've never been to have you ever in a wife
I didn't see a dolphin
I've never been
Apparently it's like the place to be right now
Because it's like
Because now like
If you go across the border
It's a lot harder because of all like
COVID protocols and stuff
because it's not just like passport and then you go.
Well, they know it's the place to be.
So now Hawaii is like, because you don't have to have a passport to go to Hawaii.
So you just go.
And apparently it's like, is there a lot of people there?
Actually, no, surprisingly.
Which island did you go to?
Maui.
There were, I mean, I've never been there, so I don't really have a baseline.
But there weren't that.
I mean, there was a good amount of people like the last couple days.
But the first couple days we got there was like there was nobody at the beach.
Y'all went midweek though, right?
The Shark Week
It was Shark Week? It was Shark Week? Holy shit
That's why
That explains it
Yeah
I'm on paddleboarding for like three hours
And I just kept looking down
That's...
That's...
That's rid, now that's risky
That is crazy
I can't believe you did that
Seriously
Yeah, dead serious
That's where you'll see some shit
Like paddleboarding?
You're going pretty far
Well not that
It's hard to kind of like see down
I rather be under and just see it
Until it's on you
Fuck that
I don't want my fucking bit off
If it's 30 feet down
You can't see it
You think it would the water
How deep the water was?
I was stressing him out.
No, it was not that deep.
It was maybe like six feet deep.
That's enough for a bull shark.
Wait, the beach?
Yeah.
It was only six feet?
I mean, we like...
Yeah, that's cap.
I just wanted to say it anyways, but...
We went, yeah, six feet.
That's not...
Well, you didn't walk all the way out type of shit.
It might not even have been six feet.
It might have been five feet.
What?
I was on top of a board.
What do you think I'm Christopher Columbus?
Just set sail.
I fucking just going out.
No, I know.
That's what I wasn't.
I think if you fall in, you're fucked.
I stayed pretty close, and I made sure I didn't fall in.
I was sitting down.
Oh, now we get to the bottom of it.
Huh?
You were sitting down, paddleboarding?
Were you straddling the board?
Sometimes, and then I'd see someone, and apparently the correct way to throw up the hang loose is like this.
If you're doing too hard, because we met some people that lived there one night.
We went out for dinner, and we did karaoke night.
And there was a group of like firefighters that were starting like to be firefighters.
And them and their girlfriends were there.
And we were like the only two tables.
They like invited us over.
And we had a good night.
But yeah, you have to do this.
The looser the better.
The loser the better?
Only one person threw it up to me like in the resort.
One guy had a full service suit on.
He was like, he was that before you knew?
Oh, okay.
I didn't know you were chill at that.
He was chill like that.
But, no, it was a good time.
Oh, I got so fucked up the night that we were partying with these people.
We were doing sake bombs, and I was doing the McConaughey like,
it has a video.
You're just doing it with random firefighters?
Yes.
Where did they fight fires?
I guess in Hawaii.
Oh.
That makes sense.
How many fires there?
I don't know.
But it was a good time.
There is a volcano there.
it was a good time
did you know the biggest
volcano in the world is actually in Hawaii
it's just underwater
the whole
did you know there's a whole continent under New Zealand
continent
where
Atlantis is
yo Matt look up New
look up Zelandia
Not trolling
Zalandia
Not trolling
Have you ever seen North Sentinel Island
Zelandia sounds like a Disney movie
The super remote island where they throw spears at you
Like fly helicopter
Oh yeah
Apparently that's where that's where
D. B. Bookerland. D. B. Cooper land.
Yeah, I know that took his ass down.
Dude, apparently New Zealand. Who's D.B. Cooper?
Oh, isn't that the...
He jumped out of a plane. He jumped out of a plane.
That's where he landed?
Wait, no.
What are the odds?
I think I'm getting...
I'm getting two stories mixed up.
By, for sure.
What are the odds?
Wait.
You're flying down on a parachute
you just see a circle of people gathering.
They found like drugs. They crashed and got captured by.
Like, what the fuck?
What the fuck? What the fuck?
I don't know what the fuck.
I don't know.
You're just falling down
I'm falling with money bags
I'm like what the fuck
That'd be crazy
Okay
All right what is Zelandia
You got a mic still
No Mike today
No Mike
All right well New Zealandia is supposed to be
Underneath New Zealand
And it's supposed to be just as big as Australia
I'm not trolling
I heard I just heard about this too
So how does this work?
New Zealand's actually only like the top of the island
And underwater is like a whole continent.
It's just underwater.
But you said that thing and made me think of that.
No, it's not a continent.
No, it is.
It's just underwater.
Wait, wait, click the first one.
See that?
Wait, so that's New Zealand?
Yeah, that's New Zealand.
But you only see the top of it.
Wait, that's actually kind of...
Kind of insane, right?
How do you only see the top of it?
Because it's underwater.
Is there like a tunnel that you can go to get there?
No.
You just explain the same...
Oh, wow.
It's the only part of it that's popping up.
Like, yeah.
biggest mountain in the world, but it's underwater.
It's the only part that is fucking. Yeah, but that doesn't count, though, because people don't count it.
People don't count it.
Everest is still the biggest.
They don't count the underwater one.
That has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
It's not going to count that.
Why?
Because it's underwater.
I can't fucking live there.
If it's surfaces, what are you going to do?
Count it?
If it's surfaces, yeah, it's countable.
It's only countable if it's surfaced?
Only surfaced will, it's countable.
What does it mean? What do you mean?
Surfaces?
It won't surface.
Like it just...
I mean, it could.
It definitely could.
It definitely could.
I don't think it will, though.
It would surface at one point and then went underwater.
Is that rock actually Zelandia?
Oh, so like, was it?
That's the part that's above water right there.
That fucking land is just coming out of the water.
I'd be like,
yeah,
so was it above water?
Was it above water then got submerged?
Pangia.
Yeah.
So it was,
it was at one time.
It was part of Pangea at one point, yeah.
Ah, okay.
I guess that, I mean,
that might be countable then.
That's what I'm saying.
It's a true name, though.
It's prehistoric continent.
That's what I'm saying.
I thought this was pretty wild.
That is pretty wild.
That is kind of crazy.
I did not know there was an entire continent.
Wait, so tell me about the mountain that's under Hawaii.
Oh, I've nothing.
I don't know anything about it.
I just saw it one day.
Yo, what was I just about to say, dude?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so the flight over there, it's literally 2,000 miles of just straight ocean.
I was tweaking.
Oh, my, fuck, you know.
And the Pacific Ocean,
apparently its average depth is like 2,000 meters.
Yeah, but what's like 50 meters to 2,000 either way? I'm fucked.
That's true.
If it's 50 meters or 2,000, it makes no difference to me.
Yeah, it does. You know there's 2,000.
I'm not going to be allowed to get dragged 2,000 meters down.
You never know.
That's true.
That's still insane.
A giant squid comes up.
A giant squid's blowing air in my mouth as you put up.
It's keeping you alive all right at the bottom of the ocean.
This giant beak?
They're so vicious.
You dive with the pressure would kill you before you that thing killed you.
What?
Yeah, you just explode.
Bro, imagine.
I can't hate that feeling.
Turned a much.
You don't like fly over water.
I would get to a certain depth and just...
I would rather...
I would rather fly over water.
In Chicago, like, when we went to Chicago, we like flew over Chicago,
went out over the water and came back, and I'm just thinking like,
what the fuck is this pilot doing?
What the fuck is he doing?
Like, dead ass.
I'm like, what the fuck is he doing?
Going into Chicago, they always do that.
fly past the city and then turn around
over the lake I'm like I hate that too
dude like I'm looking around and
see if anyone else is paying attention I'm like
You guys don't get it he's about I'm going to Texas
Where the fuck are we going
Dude I'm like looking out the window like bro
We're kind of low bro like have you ever
Have you ever been to Sacramento
You have?
Flying into Sacchar because I had a connecting flight
in Sacramento and I had never been there before
So I looked out the window dog there's nothing there
It's like fields.
It's like farm fields and that's it.
I thought it was like a big city.
There's got to be a big city.
The airport.
Talk shit about my capital.
Takumato's the capital?
Of California.
Yeah.
Yeah, I knew that.
Just not the capital of America because that's Washington.
That's correct.
I actually like didn't know that for a long time.
Okay, wait.
The Washington part?
Yeah.
Let's just move on.
Okay.
Let's just wait.
For like when I was a kid.
What did you think was the Capitol?
Harrisburg.
Why?
Huh?
Why?
I don't know.
I actually don't know.
Okay, now we've got to like dig a little.
Until how long?
I mean, like when I was a kid.
But dude, I had no idea.
You're still a kid.
So what age?
Probably like 12, 13.
What the fuck?
Eighth grade?
I don't remember.
Eighth grade?
You're looking around at Harrisburg.
Really?
Let's just move on.
Maybe earlier than that.
I've already dug this hole.
I've already dug this hole.
Now I must lay in it.
Damn it.
All right, so the rumored narrative is that you came back from Hawaii landed,
and then you found out about all the team stuff.
I salvaged it.
You salvaged it?
Yes, I'm the salvager.
So who's the destroyer?
Can't throw names.
He must.
Oh, the world needs answers.
He must.
Listen, man, nobody destroyed anything.
We were having.
Well, then you didn't salvage anything.
What?
Then you didn't salvage anything.
I know, I was trolling, bro.
I already said this on the stream.
We wanted to make, we wanted to make changes, and then we realized we didn't give ourselves a fair chance at a real season, and we didn't make changes.
That's mature.
Yeah.
And we talked it out.
That's mature.
You know?
That's all that happened.
And people all, dude, people are like going down the rabbit hole.
We were like, something's not adding up here.
I'm like, dude, what the fuck do you mean?
Like, we were going to make a change.
They are.
They are.
Like, we were going to get to like, I'm not buying it.
I'm not buying it.
I've seen some wild stuff.
Dude, people are like, Seth came back from Hawaii and he just, he had no idea.
I'm like, you get back to getting this burning.
Like everything is just on fire.
And I'm like, what the fuck's happening?
I just landed.
No, it's not what happened, dude.
We didn't talk about roster moves, like, basically at all while we were, while I was in Hawaii.
everything happened in a three-night window
yeah I think that's what people can't understand
night one oh my god wanted to make changes
night two what the fuck or morning two I woke up
I woke up and I was like wait oh wait
we're trolling right now morning two I wake up and say we're trolling
we call Brandon get him back on board after that we call
Ender get him back on board
and then that's pretty much it we had a team talk
and then we had one more team talk to confirm that everyone was like
still on board we gave it two nights and then that was it and the team talks are just you four
us four and ray oh you five okay yeah because people I mean I think there's a lot of people
out there that think like the whole org is involved and like and it's like yeah
formal was like I was giving out information I'm like dude oh yeah I saw that people thought you
were leaking stuff and I was like I care so I'm home like
On Reddit.
Nah, but nobody, like, everyone had leaks for, like, you know, suspected rosters.
Called death squads.
All that shit.
And then, like, nobody knew we got back together.
I had people hitting me up, like, yo, let's run it, whatever.
And then I didn't respond to any of them.
And then we just dropped it the next day.
Yeah, that's even better because now you know of a team that's together,
and they try to get scumped behind their back, they're going to fall back.
they're gonna fall apart down the line
I know you didn't do it on purpose
but that's it was it was probably the most stressful
three nights of like a roster mania I've ever
been a part of like from waking up
till going to sleep like it was just stressful
things are just so different this year it seems like
I was talking about it it seems like most years
you know about the few
three like the few moves that are happening
it seems like this year everybody just dumped their rosters
there's just explosions happening everywhere yeah
they just dump their rosters into like boiling pits
and now it's just like
Repet.
Pros.
Let me re-fucking.
What a specific jigsail.
You just said?
Not, cod rosters.
Cod rosters have been so just weird.
So who are the only teams running back?
You, Serge, and thieves?
Us and thieves are 100%.
I don't know about Serge.
I don't know.
Okay.
I mean, I don't really.
I'm not in the know.
Like, people, like, I'm not one of those pros that's like asking people what their
rosters are.
I mean, yeah, I figured you were in Hawaii.
There's other people that are like on Teams speaking.
every night and they know everything and then there's me and like I haven't talked to anybody
some kids love that yeah I haven't talked to anybody I locked your team down
in the call just yeah once my team's good I don't go fuck anymore like dude wait what the
fuck are they gonna actually do that oh my god and then it's like holy shit you're faded you're
faded no it's like no you don't know you don't know the Austin shit no no no mine
yeah what how do you think how do you think your squad's gonna do no slide canceling
I mean hopefully good
I don't know I mean obviously good
there's no slide cancelling
there's no slide canceling apparently next
next cod asking the wrong guy
I don't know I've heard I've heard different things
I've heard yes I've heard no
what does that look I was just thinking
what were you thinking
nothing okay
have people like talked about the game at all
I think only
I've heard that there's only been one round of play test so far
yeah actually
No, there was a play test like a year ago or like eight months ago that like,
that's helpful.
Pro's played in.
But then recently there's only been one round that like exclusive people have played in.
And then September 15th is like when it's all revealed.
So we'll see then.
I would love a year with no slide canceling.
Straight.
That sounds fun.
I would love it.
Holy shit.
Bose is going to be in kickoff tournaments until 4 a.m.
Yeah.
So fucking three months and I quit again.
Yeah.
I can't wait. I hope there's no slide cancelling.
Yeah, I mean that it would be it'll be interesting.
I've I've heard rumors of a slide.
Slide cancelling is the same as jet packs.
It's literally a different era of cod.
Yeah, I agree.
It's, I would almost rather have jet packs than the slide canceling.
I would much rather have slide canceling just, I can't.
I don't like slide cancel.
At least in jet packs like it's fun to watch.
And slide canceling is like everybody's like skipping.
You're literally slide like Vandard like you just.
slide into people and hit fire like dude yeah like I noticed that when I was playing there's like
this little broken mechanic where like if you slide a corner and hit fire like brother there's no way
they're killing dude because you kill them in three bullets too it's like yeah oh man it's just
all about like how you're just like another bird of snaking around the map bro just sneaking each other
the whole fucking yeah it's just like you fucking slide hit fire that guy come back slide hit fire the next
guy like you're shooting people you're shooting a ghost dude yeah like how was that skillful
I don't get that no it's just such a it's such like a unneeded mechanic in a game it's like
Like, why, what's the point?
I mean, I always have been, like, kind of nervous about going back, because it seems like
Cod has been so fast for the past eight years.
Well, I hope the movement is still, like, somewhat fast.
I just hope that it's, like, back to, like, sprint camering and, like, jump camering and shit
like that.
Like, slide-cheting.
Yeah, drop-shodding.
I love the drop-shodding.
Yeah, drop-shodding is fun.
Like, dude.
Because, like, I feel like the ghost slide was perfect.
I mean, the game had some.
issues but the
ghost slide felt awkward as
yeah it did it was like a delayed
it was delayed you could like go
you were once you committed to it you were committed to it
you would go five feet like it was far
yeah okay and it was like it was like a slow pull
time afterwards
maybe I'm like maybe I'm like
the ghost slide was like use for only
to get away and to get and slide
yeah I guess you could do it to get away but it would look trolled
but yeah you just slide the bliss point
do it don't do it into a gun fight
that would look faded as fuck
yeah no not into a gunfight is what I'm saying that's why I think it was
Like that I guess that's why I was saying it was perfect
Yeah
Because it is advanced it is movement but it's not
You weren't really spamming it
Yeah you know like I guess the the what was the World War II
Dauphin dive wasn't bad either
I love how they put that in the middle of the jet packs
And slide can't say it randomly just to kill the dynasty
For no reason here's World War II
It's not gonna do anything like this
No just to kill the dark
That's what they were thinking at Activision
That game was horrible that game was horrible
That was the have you ever gone back and played it
No fuck no
Dude it's it's rough
That game is so bad.
Holy shit.
It's great.
It's just great.
Even how the gun shoot feels so weird.
It's, yeah.
It's like the barrel doesn't move, but the flash is there.
It's so weird, dude.
I went back to play.
Whenever it went free to play on PS4, we played it one time, like, just to get a YouTube video out of it, and we couldn't even do that.
It was.
It was like, damn.
Like, I forgot how bad it was.
But, yeah.
So, so that, so we're good.
so everything's good on our end.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So now we just sit back and enjoy the show of everyone freaking out.
Your roster changes.
And it's heating up.
Okay.
Okay.
So we have an update.
A seam is restricted free agent.
Arsides...
I can't even follow this.
All right.
Let's talk about the real thing.
Who's going to phase, bro?
Yeah.
Who's going to phase?
Because that's the biggest story right now.
Is it out like he's not on phase, which I think is a huge mistake.
That's a real bad.
I cannot believe that they're getting rid of Alec.
I'm not going to lie.
Every listening, you could tell his word to that team,
and you're still going to get rid of them.
You guys want to go back to the panicky shit?
Fine.
I don't know who could replace him that would be able to be
just as helpful to them as Alec was.
I'm sure they'll realize that like happened this year.
Let me think.
Do you think so?
Yeah, I know so.
Yeah, Alex's a great teammate.
Alex's one of the best teammates I've ever had.
It's a great teammate.
So people are saying Cammy.
Yeah, but what if they don't get Cammy?
Are they just fucked?
I mean, who are the ARs that are available?
No idea.
Is Cammy's restricted, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that means complications, right?
Yeah, that just means the Toronto can just hold him.
Oh, yeah, Toronto's just going to hold him.
Yeah.
They can if they will.
I mean, they pick and choose who they want to.
Like, if, like, phase could offer a bag and they'll just be like, no.
Like, someone else could offer.
No, we don't want to make that team happen.
They'll just be like no.
That's the thing about like restricted free agents and unrestricted free agents, bro.
It just makes everything so.
Leaves the choices up to people.
you don't even know. Complicated? Yeah.
Like, someone at the top saying, no, not happening.
I'm actually curious who's going to go. So, so
apparently they're getting rid of varsities
because of a, I mean, I guess because of a
rough year, KD-wise.
So. That's just so capital.
So what do you think, obviously you
think that's a mistake? What do you think about
the Toronto dropping their team?
I don't know because I wasn't, I wasn't around them
all year. I also wasn't around phase. They dropped
half their team, I think, right? They drop
band. I know they dropped bands. Bans and Kimmy.
And I've also never teamed with anyone in Toronto, so I don't
really know. So the current team is Insight
Kleenex looking for two. They'll probably pick up one
of their... What's the guy's name?
Scrappy, right? Apparently Scrappy might
play for the real team.
I don't know. I think Cammy's
fucking godlike. Yeah, right.
I think Cammy's godlike. I don't know why they'll get rid of them.
It must be something else. They're picking up... You think they're
picking up Scrappy? You think they're picking up Scrappy?
Scrappy's like more of a main, so they'd have
two mains. Oh, really?
I... I mean, I haven't watched
much challengers, so I don't know how the challenge.
just teams play.
I mean, I'm sure he could run flex or InSike.
Someone could run flex.
I mean, you just have to speed up.
Kleenex is God like that. That kid's really fucking good.
Yeah, Kleenex is good.
I thought it would be like Kleenex Cammy, the ones that would be staying, but I don't know.
I don't know.
Who IGLed on Toronto?
I think Insight.
Oh, okay.
But like I said, I have no fucking idea.
Sorry, Ben, if it was you.
Like, I don't know.
Bad to see Bans go.
I've heard rumors of, or I saw rumors online.
I don't know anything about this.
that methods, I don't know if he's trolling his
scrim, or his scrim.
He's on the breach anymore, right?
I don't know if he was trolling his...
I will say nothing.
Yeah, I don't know if he was trolling his stream.
I'm not going to ask Seth, because he probably knows.
But he, like, kind of alluded to the fact
he wasn't on breach anymore, so...
I thought it was also, like, an official announcement.
Really?
Oh, there was an official announcement?
Nero, or the two on the team.
Damn.
But like I said, I thought I'm out.
I feel like a lot of these teams...
That's a mistake in my opinion.
Yeah, I thought they should have, like, just franchise them.
Right.
Like, dude, you gotta start thinking, you can't just...
Is it gonna go? Paris?
No, honestly, if they do get rid of Zinn, I would be very surprised.
I think that's a huge mistake.
Wait, I think it's a mistake as well.
What's up, Paige?
Paige, you want to hop on the pod?
Is that Florida Ross for real? It's just a baddie.
That's serious?
One be boring?
It's just a batty, just laying on his belly?
Yay, coffee time.
I'm double fisting.
Oh, thanks.
What if I just ripped that on the podcast right now?
Would you guys care if I just started eating the same?
Holy hell.
Look at all these roster changes.
I was going to say, I feel like a lot of teams are making changes,
but at the end of roster mania,
I feel like a lot of the teams are going to look really similar
to how they look this year.
You think teams are going to go back?
The people are making like one change, two changes.
But like to really blow up a team,
it's got to be minimum three.
people gone.
I mean, look at subliners.
Holy shit, look at Minnesota.
New York's gone.
I mean, yeah, but like a lot of these teams, like their rosters are blown up, but like,
I bet you they're going to re-sign their play, like some of their players.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it might look like everyone's dropped, but I...
Everyone's trying to make moves right now, but eventually, like, after the dust settles,
like people are going to have to crawl back.
Like, they're going to have to pick two of their players up.
I just think, I think it's a mistake league-wise.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously you want a roster to, like, to play to win, but.
To not have Zinn in there, to not have, I don't see Clay or Krem, that's fucking crazy.
Yeah, that is crazy.
The Krem one's crazy.
I mean, the guy's got 40 chips, but you got to think he just burned every bridge he's fucking bent on.
Yeah.
That's, like, why I think he doesn't have a team.
I think that, yeah, I think he just burned.
I think he knows it.
Am I the last one, the last one's standing?
Do Krem?
I think of yours, too.
You put your bridge on fire.
You let your bridge on fire.
Do you?
No, I'm saying, like, from the old days, am I the last one?
If they don't get on team, though.
I've heard a lot of things that Clay's getting on team, though.
Oh, okay.
Like, everyone's, I think Clay has said that he's had, like, multiple offers.
Like, Clay's going to be on the team.
I would be shocked if Porter doesn't get on the team.
I would be shocked, but it would be crazy.
You wouldn't be shocked?
I would be shocked.
I think he's burned a lot of his bridges.
I mean, still.
I just had a point you hit a bridge to get to a team.
Do you guys know if Krim and Kismet get along?
Do they get along?
I think they all get along Kismet.
Yeah.
I think Kismet's just easy.
But I don't think Kisman likes that.
That's why there's a bunch of dashes there.
Well,
they literally dropped their whole team
except for Kismet.
That's what I'm saying.
Kismet was a 99 in a row.
He didn't have a team.
So who's Hydra going to?
I swear, Kisman on P1 Gav.
There was one day we were scrimming him.
I was in like P1 in the ring.
And I'm like, we're in the battle
and we're like finessing each other.
And then he goes up on top of the tree and just waits.
And I was like, this kid's a 99.
Like, I'm never reading that.
He went on top of the tree and just sat there.
On top of a tree.
He has hot spots.
I slide canceled.
like the heady and he was just sitting on top of the tree I was like
do you remember an MW on Petro Grab when he would play the like the blue building and he would
just disappear and just go on like a 10 street he's got hot spots only in blue yeah
you catch anywhere else you would just kill him but he got to blue and you chased him he had
dead he popped you can't kill him just disappears dude a crazy memory I just had I used to
play in like 2018 way after ghost cycle I went back in the offseason and played ghost
wagers with it was me and Jukin the guy who
works here now and Kismet.
And the three of us were playing Ghost Wagers at randomly not streaming at 3 a.m.
Going hard.
Yeah, just going hard.
We played a show match against Exposed, you know, the millionaire now.
So things change quickly.
But yeah, so do you think, do you think Krem would go back to New York?
I have no idea what's happening there.
Doesn't seem like it.
Yeah, I mean, from what we saw on the flank from them, I mean, they're, they're like
Krim hates New York.
Yeah, they're done.
I mean, it was so bad.
What was going on in that call?
It was so bad.
I was watching in Hawaii.
I was like, I was like, babe, like, I gotta watch it.
Oh, the height.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't watch it.
Like, look, I got to watch it.
I did not watch that.
Would a crim say you're dead to me?
Yeah.
I was like, this is free.
It was like, it was like, I forget what time it was.
But I was just sitting there loving it.
me not loving it but you know what I'm saying
I mean realistically his only choices are
Paris, Rocker, Florida and
Yeah so that's the thing
A lot of people
Wait keeps trolling he's like
Like I'll play with Krimm
You know or like he keeps saying
shit like that but I have no idea
Where is Wake
I don't know
I'm pretty sure he's at Florida no
Yeah they dropped
They released their entire team
Oh shit I didn't even know that
I thought Wake was still there
I mean, but like you said, he might still, they might still run him back.
See, that's what I'm saying.
Like, there's no way all these players are getting dropped or not in the league or not like, you know what I'm saying?
Look at all those free agents.
What the fuck?
That's what I'm saying.
Like, it just seems like they just threw every pro in the pot.
And now people are just making teams.
Yeah, I feel like this.
I hope attached gets a team too, man.
There's people out there that are giving different level of effort right now.
Who's getting back into the league?
You understand what I'm saying?
There's a whole other game that's being played right now
that no one watches except for the people involved
You know that's kind of crazy to think about it's
People that are just okay with like someone like Havoc
I bet he's not riding anyone
I bet he's just sitting there and whatever happens happens
And then he could be in Challenger next year and not care or not give a fuck
He's like well yeah fuck it
I don't ride anyone
And there's other people who are like
Right everyone's DMs
Oh they're there's like it's like you kind of have to
There's one TES out there that is just
It's like an office building that's just like on fire
Like SpongeBob remember SpongeBob when it goes to his brain
and this office is on fire.
It's like, that's what it's like.
They're all jumping calls, riding.
Really?
Oh, yeah, they're like, yeah, you're goaded, dude.
Let's fuck.
You can not think that at all.
He just be lying.
People are playing mind games out there.
I'm telling you.
I was getting costed, blah, blah, blah.
I was getting cost it in the next year
they'll come to the team and they'll just cost.
Is there a pro that's the best at that?
That is the best, you?
You are pretty, I forgot about that.
I forgot about your whole ride.
He's good at that.
I got to give it to them
It's a game
Within a game
You don't play
You get left out
That shit kind of
I mean it does sound
stressful
But it kind of sounds
Fun once you get through it
You're like damn
How do I end up here
It's not fun
It's not fun
No it's not fun
It's not fun
It's not fun
It kind of sounds a little fun
If you're a free agent
And you're good
If you're a freak
It's fun
If you're a free
If you're a free agent
And you're good
It's probably fun
Because you're like
Oh this team wants me
This team wants me
This team wants me
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But there's just not enough spots anymore.
Yeah.
I mean, there's 12 teams.
It's stressful.
It's stress.
Unless you're like, unless you're like a top talent in the league, then you're good.
I mean, then you're good.
I mean, we're sitting here talking about Krim.
Like, he's a top talent of all time.
And we don't know if he's going to get on a team.
That's insane.
I mean.
And then, but there's always like the new kids that come up and they're into.
Not the new, the new gen is like, they're actually like nasty.
Yeah.
So it's like, that's why, I mean, that's why you see a lot of them coming into the league now and having success.
So Hydra is not on New York.
I guess not.
I thought he was, maybe he's restricted.
But it's weird right now because it's really weird right now because like there's still a lot of really good talent and challenges.
But I feel like a lot of the talent that's in challengers has been tapped into the league already.
Really?
So like the top has been like chopped off of like the challengers players and they're on the league.
like there's only like a handful now of challenges players that would...
Yeah, that would actually like do damage in the league.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like it's weird.
Because I feel like in roster media, it always comes to a point like this where like
a new generation will start coming in.
Should we just like go like just risk it all and just go for a challenge?
I mean you could.
But like when the new generation's coming in like all of the top talent gets picked out
and then it like goes through another rebuilding year of like the new guys.
getting back to the top.
Yeah.
And like they get paid.
It's just like,
so you think Vanguard was the rebuilding year or or after Vanguard?
Every year it happened.
Well, not every year.
Because like Cold War,
we didn't really see that many amateur players come in, did we?
Tom Gravity.
All X.
There was quite a few.
Were there?
Yeah, there was.
Not an MW,
not, no, W, too.
There was like a,
I think half the league was new pros in MEPA.
Yeah, is it like Wake and all,
that whole era,
yeah.
Wake Mac.
Yeah, yeah, they were all challengers.
Really?
Yeah, there was a lot.
Ah.
That's whatever.
Maybe it's still just developing and they're always just keep coming and taking our spots.
The old heads.
Eventually they have to.
Yeah.
It's like we did the other people.
The cycle of life.
The circle of life.
Yeah, it'll definitely be interesting to see.
And then you'll find me on the stream.
If you're phase, who do you pick up as your last, as for RCs?
I don't even know.
It's a hard guy to replace.
I fucking just beg Alex come back.
I made a mistake.
Yeah.
He'd probably say yes.
He's so nice.
He's so nice.
But if I were here, man, I'd just say fuck him.
But now, see, like,
I feel like it's...
I feel like maybe it's too late now, though.
Like, the wound has festered.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, with us...
Like, with us, they told Ender and Brandon,
and then, like, probably four hours later,
I was on the phone with Brandon.
Yeah.
Like, that's...
That was quick.
Like, yo, I fucked up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
What?
What's funny?
But yeah.
No, that is, I mean, that's typical.
Because apparently, I mean, didn't he tweet something like he found out from somebody else?
Oh, really?
Alex, unless it was photoshopped, I don't know.
See, he said shout out to so-and-so for telling.
Yeah, I think it was Afro, right?
Yeah, I think I did see that.
Which is kind of a, wait.
No, no, no, no, I don't think that's what happened.
That's not what happened?
No, okay.
Then I saw a Photoshop.
I saw something that was Photoshop
then. Because I saw a clip that's
a screenshot, but...
He could also just be trolling the entire like this.
Oh, yeah, he is that.
I know who told him whatever, but...
Okay.
Never mind then.
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So, I mean, are you a Game Thrones guy?
No, I never even watched it.
But y'all two are.
Is that bad?
I'm actually jealous.
It's so good.
Wait, why do you say I'm, if you could actually find the time to, like, sit through the
boring parts, which is, like, all of season one, like, all of season one is just a set, it's,
like, if you actually pay attention, like, I know you don't watch you like that, but
if you, like, pay attention, you'll like the show a lot.
It's, I mean, it's really good.
It's like the best show ever.
Fucking good.
I'm like jealous of you.
It's the best show ever.
I just watched all entourage, though.
Amazing.
It's really good.
Really good.
I watched that with Mike and Will.
Yeah, yeah.
And sopranos.
I remember you guys watching that like when I first went to 60-50
and you guys were all just watching Entourage and I didn't know what was going on.
Then I went to sets the other, like a couple weeks ago.
And everyone in the room was talking about all the characters except for me.
Because I was the only one who went to see it.
You were like, I got to tell you.
When?
When were, when?
When your brother was there and your fret and your- Oh, okay. Huh? Oh, you definitely got the invite. Definitely missed that invite.
Was it July 4th? I can't remember. It had to have been. It was right before. We went out somewhere.
Oh, it was the optic party night.
Was it? No. No, it wasn't the object party night. Oh, we went to concrete. Yeah, for your birthday. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
You didn't. You always get the invite. I do. You always get the invite, too. No, I never.
get the invite. No. I never get the end. Wait, how bad was the flooding? Insane.
Yeah. I forgot. I'm insane. You're the only person that doesn't live around here.
Bro, I literally so. It was bad. I woke up late and it was, it was raining all day and I woke up late.
I'm like, oh, let me go get Keynes. So I go get Keynes. And I'm driving. I'm like, holy shit,
yo, it's crazy out here. Like, it's bad. I told myself. What? One time. What the fuck?
So, Dallas? Yes. Yes. One time it was pouring so hard, right? And I,
go to this Keynes all the time and I took the exit
bro and there was a huge pile of water and I'm like
this is probably not a good time
to take this exit so I went the long way
dude the exit was
fucking cars if you hit the water
bro your car would just go like it would just get
taken really water is so fucking final
that's like um
that's actually horrifying
if water just gets under your car
if you don't open the door quick enough
like you'll just get trapped
that's fucking terrifying bro
water's so fucking final if you don't
roll the window down before like press rises like you can't open the door you can't do shit
like bro what damn matt was saying you just bailed on the optic mailbox i didn't know
look at that car oh my god you can't do shit dude that is that i didn't know it was that bad
my mom texted me and said hey is are you okay yeah that's really one was texting me too i'm like
i'm good i saw on ticot i had no idea i had no idea was like this don't watch the news we don't like
No, no, no, no.
I need to start watching the news, man.
Every podcast without fail now.
Every time.
He texts someone and says, yo, call me a five.
Yeah, we got 10.30 today.
Guys are the point where I start thinking, you guys think like I'm setting.
It's just an alarm.
He's just like 11-04.
Now, that's insane.
I hope every other kid.
That's fucking crazy.
Dude, I didn't know it was that bad.
Yeah, that is wild.
Bro, I saw a clip so, like, water was moving, like.
that shit was like a river bro like like like shh shh dude that is terrifying i think all it takes is like
two feet of water take a car brother look at that what i'm right so that way that right there is the
exit i would take to get home but i went around the top you feel me so like what what was it like
near the offices like was it bad there is is not gonna be like so if you're in that area
there's no way you're getting out to go anywhere else so you just got you're just got to yeah you're
not gonna fucking hit because all the bridge when she's
you go under a little underpass, flooded.
Yeah, it's just flooded everywhere.
That's insane.
Is it better now? Because it's still drizzling.
Yeah, it was raining when I got here, so I was like,
damn. Yeah.
That's, dude,
what's how high that water is?
Yeah, that's nuts.
That is insane. That's terrifying, bro.
But, yeah, I hope everybody's all right.
Like, they don't got, like, fucking, there's no way for this water to go.
That's what I saw, like,
I saw someone say on like somewhere that like if it's not sunny in Texas like we don't know what the fuck's going on.
Like if it's raining, we don't have the infrastructure.
If it's snowing, we don't have the infrastructure.
The people that are in charge of like the, I don't even know what the terminology is.
Like the people that are supposed to like the people that are noticing it's about to flood before it floods.
Like those people, they're probably looking at like a meter or they're looking at like the levels rising and they're like, oh shit.
And then they're like this is about to be so bad.
Oh my God.
And they're putting their coffee down.
They're like, you know what I'm saying?
Like dude.
like they're tripping like it's a movie
I mean they have to know that their draining
sucks like because it
didn't rain that much
it didn't right? No I think it did
it rained shit like it was pouring
that was only thing
see we didn't get it here
yeah we didn't get it here but in downtown
apparently I would think we were getting
because we're only like 30 minutes away yeah
that's wild it was like eight inches
of rain I think
damn
eight inches of rain
that's way too much
and everyone was everyone was like bitching about how it didn't fucking rain for like 70 days or some shit
and we just get flooded out and then we just get trees falling and shit yeah right dude the trees
were so weak like once the water hit it that shit just collapsed dude a sign of climate whiplash
what's that mean bro what's going on is the climate actually like getting crazy yeah I feel like
pretty sure we're all fuck but as humans we just don't care because it's not going to affect it it's uh
been 100 degrees for you're sure the scientists are saying yeah we are a fuck
100 degrees for a month and there's a
like a timer and they're like yeah
by the time to get here we're all dead
I've seen like 2050 we're fucking
what wait really yeah look
or Matt is that a fact
how many days in a row
did Dallas have 100 degrees like
67 or so I'm sure yeah
you watch a lot of David Atman
I think we're so fuck
you think it's interesting how humans don't give a fuck
I give a fuck not enough
I stay inside all day
is my carbon footprint
a lot if I'm just staying inside
Even a million people caring is different than a million people doing something.
Maybe that's true.
Even if I give a fuck, I don't even know what I would do.
Even if you give a fuck, you're still driving.
It's impossible.
It's just like, it's like hard.
And like everyone's just like, well, if he's not going to do it, I'm not going to do it.
And that's what everyone's fucking thought is, except for like a handful of scientists and
like group of people that are trying to stop it.
And they're like, oh, this is horrible.
And like little dicky.
And then they're going to give us like a 10 year countdown.
Like if we don't change, we have 10 years.
And then everyone's going to be like, there's already a countdown.
But they're like saying it's like a rough estimate.
And they're like, well, yeah, if we keep doing this, yeah, we're for sure fucked.
And everyone's like, really?
And they're like, yeah, 100% fucked.
And they're just like, okay.
Like 100%.
Yeah, sure.
Do if you want to.
I'm telling you.
Answer the question.
Is my carbon footprint high if I'm staying inside playing video games all that?
Because I don't leave the house.
I don't know.
I wouldn't say, I mean, it has anything to do with you.
Huh?
The average person.
It doesn't do with you.
I'm just saying like.
I think like a company shoving shit into the water.
Yeah.
I'm more so asking if like.
I don't think you're.
effect in climate change that much? That's what your question is.
No, no, I'm asking a deeper question that
like is surface level with my question.
Like how much am I
emitting by just sitting inside?
Not that much. Not even enough to like really even talk about.
Yeah, I think it's more of like...
It's more the companies that are a lot of companies, but also like, I mean, if you look
at LA traffic, that's got to be a part of it too.
Yeah, I mean, like all that. All that's fucking cars like...
Yeah.
There you're fucking fingers. Like I said, even if you care, it's hard to do something.
People can't do anything about it because yeah, you have to drive to work.
You have to take a plane to go to work.
I mean, it's my first vacation ever.
Even if there's a point where we get fucked by it, there's a lot of time before that
that we start noticing things that are going to fuck us up that we're not fucked necessarily,
but like our weather's going to get horrible.
Electricity and heat are going to get horrible.
They're talking about the flooding right now.
That was horrible.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Texas ain't made for that because it's like, I mean, I don't think Texas was.
built for that. Because it's never happened.
That's what I'm saying. There was snow last year. Has it ever happened before?
Has it ever flooded like that?
I'm sure. That's what was
like weird to me. Like when I moved here, I could
have sworn even it has, like I had an uncle
that lived in Texas all my life. And I feel like
I've only heard him bring up snow one.
Since I've been here, it snows like it's fucking normal.
Yeah, it's like normal, yeah.
I saw something from Neil deGrasse Tyson who was saying if the ice caps
melted, the sea levels would rise
to the Statue of Liberty's elbow, which basically
chalks all the coastal cities right away right because like that's going to be the time
here before we're fucked that's going to be the time where we're like getting fucked you know what I'm
saying where the water is just coming in and it's destroying all the cities we're getting pushed inland
like that's the time it's going to be super aides or people might actually change or like okay well
LA's gone New York's gone maybe we should do something now you know that's the time I think what's the
timeline on that I don't know like five years or you know about the glacier that if it falls
like tsunami would be insane yeah I mean like they were been talking about that
since a long time, but...
Yeah, I mean, I'm more scared
of it melting than falling, to be honest.
I mean, it's like a giant fucking...
Matt Craig, look up how long
until the ice caps melt?
Shit, the Statue of Liberty's album.
They're going.
That's kind of...
That's nuts.
I mean, 70 meters.
They're going to put in perspective, like, I don't know.
Oh.
80 years?
See, that's like the timeline.
80 years.
That will melt before 2,100?
If we stay on the same course that we're on right now,
yeah.
That's right around my time.
See, that's the timeline that they're giving us.
Like, this is...
They're telling us...
We are fucked before then,
But the humans, like, none of us will be alive for that year, right?
Unless, like, you're, I mean, unless you're, I mean, unless you're like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't need to say anything like to live.
No, I mean, shit.
I'm not going to be one or five.
That's what that's what I mean, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Because they know they're not going to be around for it.
So what about their, what about their kids?
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying, though.
It's like the people that do care are the ones with generational, like they have the generational like, you know.
I mean, are you planning to have children at some point in your life?
No.
No.
I mean, I'm not trying to bring kids into that.
I mean, yeah, that's true.
You know what I'm saying?
That's insane.
You know how much?
The Statue of Liberty's elbow?
That's pretty fucking high.
Yeah.
That is high.
Damn, everybody's going to move to like South Dakota.
Dude, I feel like we're watching fucking the day after tomorrow.
We just have a blood.
Everyone has basically what's going to be.
Look at that.
North, northern South, South America's flooded.
San Diego.
Don.
Bye, San Diego.
Goodbye, so.
That's kind of...
All the, like, I mean, all the best cities in the world are basically, like, fucking...
Yeah.
...on next to a huge large body of water.
Look at Florida.
Florida's gone.
What?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you look at a map like this and then you're like, okay, maybe we should stop
fucking doing what we're doing.
You know, imagine that?
We're back to lose our whole country, so let's stop doing this.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, look at that.
It'd be crazy, dude.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah, that is crazy.
Bro, there's going to be so many people.
Bro, that's going to be insane.
It's going to be...
Everyone's going to be...
Everyone's gonna move like into even a more like even a more
It's like like compact air. Yeah
It's already crowded
It's gonna get more crowded and now we're laughing about it because we know that we're not gonna be part of that
You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah
That's the problem like that's not your fault but I'm smiling too but also like what I'm not gonna be part of that
But that's the problem what are we gonna do like if if if all of sudden everyone was like all right fuck it
Everyone to get rid of your cars and we're taking bikes to work like I'm down I'm down
I'll do that.
Well, electric cars.
Right.
Or electric cars.
But then again, it just said the 25% is electric and heat.
I want to.
So that's still.
Yeah.
I mean, I think switching over to electric is, I mean, I, they're trying.
Maybe they're doing a lot of cars.
I'd assume it would help immensely, but I don't fucking know.
Most people got the other thing, Google Warming is fake.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so hard to get everyone to be.
I was taught.
I was taught in class that global warming was fake.
I never heard about global warming until like.
I was taught in class that it was fake.
ago probably one of my it was a law
teacher like it was law and order
teacher Al Gore was talking about it I think was the
first time I ever heard about it oh yeah and everybody
just said he was crazy yeah he was like
hey we should change and they're like you're fucking
crazy exactly like it's
it's nuts man that is crazy
but yeah I guess I gotta worry about what time scrims are tomorrow
you know it's like it's just it's just part of life
it's like it's just a problem with humans it's not in our reality
it's like a fungus on this planet
dude like how about it would it's like
watching a lot of David.
Nah, no, David.
We're like a fungus on this planet?
Think about it.
We're just like just...
He's definitely said that.
We are an invasive species.
He'd say fungi, because I think that's the correct terminology.
A fungus was my own doing.
What's the fungus joke?
I don't know.
What do you call a mushroom at a party?
A fun guy.
Okay.
That's good.
That's good.
That is good.
That is good.
We're overfishing the seas.
Think about that for a second.
It's definitely scary.
Fishing the seas.
And we know more about space than the sea.
I mean, we don't know much about either, but yeah, I guess you could say that.
We know more about space, though.
Yeah, but it's like, it's just because we're so, that's like saying, that's like saying,
I know more about Rocket League than I do about Dota.
Like, because I don't know either of them that well.
You understand?
We're talking about space in the ocean.
Yeah, but they're, you get what I'm saying?
I get it.
I'm going to go.
I don't know shit about either.
So why the fuck would you even take my credibility for either one?
That's why I don't go in the ocean because I don't know shit about it.
We don't know shit about it.
I'm surprised you paddle boarded. That's what I'm saying like what do you mean.
The crackin scared me like cracking could have got you. Yeah sharks. What if you're just
paddleboarding and you just see you in Hawaii? You looked here right there's another guy and you just see a tentacle
I just I turned to shore run he's just looking at him
It's like what the fuck oh dude we're in Mexico like the boat would just like this big ass rock and I have like a circle in the middle like
out and there people were swimming to it there was like nice little fish there and like I jumped off
to swim over there it was swimming it was it was kind of far so I was I was stopping I'm like damn
I don't want to drill wrist that yeah so study like jumped off the boat and cut himself and started
bleeding and I'm like I'm getting the fuck out of the water what the fuck yeah no lie I would have
been gone it made me immediately yeah well no he got out okay I'm like dude and then the guy was
like throwing bread into the water I'm yeah I'm thinking like they're eating like fucking
garlic bread with mariner sauce.
I'm,
I don't think sharks would pick up the bread.
No, but I mean,
how many sharks are smelling that blood?
Sharks are...
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of sharks.
Their fucking nose can smell that.
A quarter of a mile away.
You're telling me you're getting in the water
and this thing could possibly be there,
never will I get back in the ocean.
I'm not going to lie.
No, I literally will never get back in the ocean.
You'll never get back in the ocean? I'm not going to
lie.
I know too much about it now to even consider it.
Wait, why?
I'm good for like a jump-off slums.
in the dogs of a shark.
I'm gonna think like this was not worth it.
Why the fuck did I do this?
Could have been in the pool.
Even if it's not, I mean, even if it's not.
I could have been in the shower if I wanted to fucking get wet this bad.
Jesus Christ.
Why am I going to go to this guy's fucking, like, literally?
His real man.
What the fuck?
Are you kidding?
Sharks are just waiting for you.
Sharks are scary, bro.
I don't fuck with sharks.
But even like, even outside of like the animals in the ocean, like even just like the riptide and like,
like just getting pulled out into the ocean and then you imagine.
Imagine I had a fear of like
Like I heard a story of a dude
Went deep sea fishing
And then lost like his
His compass broke or whatever
He didn't know which he was out in the ocean
Didn't know which way land was
I'm happy you weren't sparkling
I'm happy that you got too sunburned to get
Imagine how scary that would be
Because there's a simulation where you're still
Out there right now and there's helicopters looking for you
And you're just floating away at sea
The fuck?
Exactly I was like snorkeling
Or scuba diving wherever the fuck
Snorkeling is easy
You just sit there and look down
That's what you think
I can do snorkeling
So you're getting dragged down
And what are you going to do then
As your snorkel fills up
And you're drowning
And there's tentacles wrapped around
You're both your thighs
I mean yeah
That would be fucked
Exactly
So I even put
Even if the chance is small
I mean
If the chance is there
Miss me with that
I don't know
I'm kind of only afraid
Of great white sharks though
Then that's just very
That's very naive of you then
You think they're all?
The tiger shark would fuck you up just as much
A bull shark would fuck you up this is bad
A hammerhead would fuck you up this is bad
You think so?
Yeah
I feel like hammerheads are kind of chill
You'll kill you in the worst possible way
Probably
Yeah I'm just questioning like at what point
Do they snap and bite
I feel like hammerheads are chill
You just
Like pull up a picture of a hammerhead?
A hammerhead attack is probably pretty unlikely
But like like I said that
A tiger shark is just as bad
A bull shark
A bull shark is the most aggressive
Are not chill
Yeah
Bull sharks are assholes
Hammerheads are definitely
Looking for like fucking like
Sting right
He can't even fucking see you bro
Like
No he can't
They're definitely the coolest looking at.
I can't believe that is an animal.
Like, how did that mutate?
So that looks like somebody drew that.
Okay, yeah.
Actually, if I saw that, I'd be fucking,
I'd be sure.
If you saw a fucking hammerhead just swimming towards you.
Yeah, actually, I have a fucking video.
Hold on, I have a TikTok that's literally gonna-
See, Hammerhead caught off.
No, I'm gonna.
Hammerhead caught off of North Carolina Beach.
I will never get back.
That's where my mom lives.
Where? North Carolina?
North Carolina Beach, 13 feet.
I'll never get back in the ocean.
Yeah, fuck that.
I'm a pool guy.
Watch this?
I'm not even a fucking pool.
I'm a stay at home in my room with the lights off guy.
Beach clothes after that, bro.
Look, but not the point.
Are you that?
Was that a shark attack?
It was like a shark almost attack.
Oh, is that when he like...
It comes up to him.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
And they're watching it playing hotel.
They're just like, whoa.
Bro, I've heard a story about a guy that's gotten...
He got hit by two great whites at once.
I know a lady who got her leg bit off by a shark.
They just murdered them.
Really?
Like a surfer just murdered him.
well I don't know the lady but I just killed someone who got their leg by a shirt really yeah she's a baby
white you're so you're so fucked that is crazy that is crazy those things are me they'll just casually
take your arm bro casually but my thing is like okay like you're in obviously in their home but like
I mean I guess like if you I've seen a fucking dog where just you look at it and it just loses
mind and try to bite you like at what point do they just say fuck it let me just swim up and bite
this they're hungry if they're hungry that's all it takes
No, some sharks, some sharks aren't stupid.
That's what I'm saying.
They're not just a idiotic sharks out there.
They're curious enough to come and touch you.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's all it takes is just like a little bit of touch.
Like if they touch on my foot and I'm in the water, I'm tripping just about to fit me.
Oh, real.
Yeah.
You're just surfing, you're sitting there on your paddleboard.
You're just like, so what do you want to eat for dinner?
And you just feel like a fucking...
Okay, you're scarring me now.
I'm trying to warn you, bro.
I'm surprised you went to paddle.
Dude, they don't come to the shore often.
Be surprised how close sharks get.
bro sharks will attack you in fucking five feet of water a bull shark will attack you in five feet of
river water that's like attached to the ocean I'll just swim in attack you at your house
well not at your house but Jesus you're fucking door dash see is loves the ocean so like I'm kind
of fucked like I'm kind of forced into the ocean because I'm not we're not gonna
crop it out of the ocean then it's it's it's I'm sure it's safe oh no I'm not an ocean guy like
I'm not a marine you know you just stand on the shore and just
I'm not a marine enthusiast.
Yeah, walk up, get your feet wet.
Yeah.
You're doing good out there.
That's how I'll be.
I'm back, bro.
Fuck all that other shit.
All right, guys.
I hope you guys enjoyed the optic podcast for the day.
That was episode 88.
We talked about Rastomania and Sharks.
We will see you next week.
Also, check out the actual podcast on the On Nation.
See you.
Bye, guys.
