OpTic Podcast - WHO BROUGHT PRED BACK TO OpTic | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 213

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

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The Kendrick Nipple bet didn't hit. I didn't put any money on that. There was a bet on that? There were so many obnoxious bets on the Super Bowl. It's awesome. Oh, yeah. You could bet on Kendrick if Nipple was going to pop out. If Kendrick's nipple, why the fuck would that happen?

I agree. I agree. It's not fucking Janet Jackson, wardrobe malfunction. I mean, if he just said, mustard. It fucking pops a nip out. That would have been electric. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Optic Podcast episode two.

213. We got to give a big shout out to our sponsors, Shopify and Factor. This is Daltush joining you here. We're fired up, baby. Here we go. We're fired up. There we go. How was that? That was perfect. We got the co-hosts. My heart rate's up. Co-host, do the co-hosts. My co-hosts, Sethi Scump Abner.

What's up, everybody? How are feeling? Go Birds. Big Optic X. What's going on, everybody? Go-Birds. And my best friend, Hitchie. Oh, wow. Now, I just feel like a piece of shit now. He's not really my best friend, but I didn't know what else to say. Do you have up there?

I'm rising the ranks, though. Do you have a best friend? Yeah, I got a couple best friends. A couple? Yeah. You can't just have one. I think that's weird. Yeah, I don't have one best friend.

But I have a solid group of good friends, but then like... I love that. There's a couple that have rose in the ranks recently. But do you have one? Do you have one you locked in? Yeah, I would say so. Your Pals for life? Yeah, I tell my boy Pablo.

Oh, Pablo? Pablo? What nationality? Venezuela. Vanes de Venezuela, el ombre. What about you? I think. Blake or George?

Brandon, actually. Oh, Brandon Rothfus. Yeah, that's my man. Shout out to soccer. Phenom. Tien? No. Logan?

No, I got like a couple. Yeah, I got a couple. So I can't pinpoint. Jude, I've had the same group of friends for all my life, right, since high school. Jude doesn't understand how any time we go fishing, like we're literally not talking about nothing. and we're just joking. We're just chilling. Just chilling talking shit to each other.

There's no like substance to it. Yeah. And she doesn't understand how and I guess it's just women in general. No offense to any of you if you guys understand. Forgive me. Don't cancel me. But like people don't understand how men can spend an entire day together

and not dive deep into like. Dude, you can spend a week with a dude and not know his name. But like you still just like chilled with him and like had a great time. Who was like talking to? today. I'm like,

you? I'm like, do you have any siblings? And you said that you did, right? Was that yesterday? Yeah. That was yesterday.

Yeah, like there's just some things that like you don't. Well, I don't see you often. Yeah, but no, I'm just talking about in general. Like,

I know that he doesn't. I know that he has, but like James, I know. Joey, do you have any siblings? Only child. No fucking wonder.

Maddie? I was going to say. Oh, yeah, he does. BMX younger brother. But see, like, if he would have said,

no, I would have said, and then I would have been like, wait, what about the BMX? You know what I'm saying? But it's not, there's no substance to it. That's why I'm- How many birthdays do you know? None.

Well, all right, I know Seth's June 30th. You should know mine now. Yes, favorite eighth. Yeah, because it's one day before yours. One day before mine, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, January. January 7th. You said you didn't know any, you know all of them.

Yeah, you just went to the whole couch. Well, I'm just, because I'm impressing myself. Nick is, same as my dad, August 15th, same as somebody else's. Mix who else is also Bose's birthday? Zinnies. Zinnies? I don't know Zinnies.

I have no idea. I know Hutch because that's his channel, 728. Okay. Diesel, I don't know diesels, and I've been friends with Diesel since 2006. Roger, when's your birthday? April 18th would have never fucking guessed that. I still struggle with my moms and my siblings.

December 2nd. I'm bad with birthdays. I'm pretty bad. I know like a four-day range, and I'll give that to myself. Yeah. Someone will remind me within. Within that time? Within either on the day, which is always a bad feeling, or close to the day.

So all that to say is that she believes that my friendships are not real friendships. Because real friendships, yeah, and I'm like, I'm trying to make the argument. And obviously, she's giving me a hard time here. I try to make the argument that not only is it a real friendship, but it's like a better friendship than any friendship that you can have with anyone else that isn't your family. Agree or disagree? I agree.

For example, to an extent. If Jude, let's say her best friend is, listen, I'm going to make a name up so that we don't, her best name, Tixie, exit backwards, her best friend Tixie, who she's known all her life. If she calls her in the middle of her. I just looked dumb. I was like, okay. I just wanted to make up a name. Keep rolling.

If she calls that person in the middle of the night and says, hey, someone's in my house. I need help. You think Jude's showing up or Tixie? No. Now, Seth, if somebody shows up to your house, you call 911. Who else do you call? I ain't calling nobody. Oh, you got that?

Welcome to the fucking jungle. All the lights go red. All the lights go red. Fucking fortunate sun starts playing. Yeah. And they're in the fucking jungle. You have an intercom somehow? Huh?

You have an intercom somehow? You pick the wrong house. I would be saying, steel doors go on all the doors. I would be saying shit like this. I'm saying, Jude, don't ruin this for me. I've been waiting for this my whole time. I wouldn't have the nuts to do it, I don't think. What, to confuse them?

To murder someone? To shoot someone in cold blood. Wait, what? Come on. Maybe I would. I don't know. The day that you're in your house. I'm not giving myself all that credit.

In your house? They're in your house? Like the only time that you can legally kill someone, you want to do it? Loved ones in your bed? I mean, to think that you guys would just be able to do it and not feel something in the moment. I think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit. I mean, like, feel joy. I can pull it.

You can pull it and hold it. And they might leave. Yeah. It's like, how do I hide this? How do I do it without? No, they walk in. You got to give them a desk pop. Just just shoot one off and just let them know.

Like, Got one. Yeah, I would try to avoid shooting the human. Where do you keep yours? Huh? Where do you keep yours? Don't worry about that. Mine are strategically placed all across my house.

Or, it tucked taped under your... Do you want them to know that you have one? Probably not, right? No, you do. Absolutely, you do. I'd say at that moment, yeah. I'd be head glitching shit. Because the only time you shoot is to kill.

I'd be head glitching. No, you got to shoot below the way so it's not attempted murder. What? They're in my house. You can open up a can of a can of worms with this combo. I'll tell you what. They were regret. I think after I'd fired the first bullet and it hit, then I'd start probably having some fun with it.

Oh. Yeah, I'd probably blow out a hamstring and then I'd be like, oh, we're in. Oh, we're in. Don't get me. This got dark. This got really dark. Yeah, part of us, ladies and gentlemen, it might be a little bit too early. There's a bunch of topics that we want to discuss today.

Obviously, we're going to talk about Pred, who lands today or a couple of days ago since you're watching this on Thursday. I want to start by congratulating the scumper jumper on his Super Bowl win with his team. Hey, go birds. Dude, it was insane to go to. I can't believe I almost didn't go. Like, I almost didn't go. Well, because I found out is couldn't go. And I don't know.

I pretty much do everything with her. So I was like, okay, she can't go. But then I was like, dude, what am I even fucking saying? It's literally an hour flight to the Super Bowl to go see. the Eagles potentially win. For free? For free. Oof.

That's sad that you were considering not going. No, no, no, no. Let's lock in. He's underselling it. It's not for free. For free is just like a given. It is with Oakley, who has access to all the dopest parties, with all the dopest people. Hottest dudes.

The hottest dudes at the hottest restaurants? Yeah, no, I mean, I didn't, we didn't go to any parties, though. So the first night, Zinie went out the first night. which I think was a mistake on his part. Because we got in, we got in at like 10 p.m. And then we had to walk a mile with our bags because our whole street was shut down. So we didn't end up getting to the hotel

until probably like 10.30, 1045. Maybe a little bit earlier than that. Maybe I'm misremembering. But he went out, he went out to like three. What? To the casino. There's Caesar's casino in the middle of like, across the street.

Literally, yeah, four minutes from our hotel. Who do you go out with? Exposed. Okay, okay, okay. Big Red, I think. Tupac was there. Tupac, dog lord? Yeah, so he went out with like their group.

Got you. He was out till three. Comes back first night, wakes me up. I'm like, fuck, wakes me up at 3 a.m. I was fast to sleep. Oh, so y'all didn't get another room. Y'all bunked? Yeah, yeah.

Well, we first walked into our room and it was a king bed. And I was like, fuck, no. Zinny called for a cot. Ziti jumped in the bed immediately. He's like, yes. Pillify. They switched us to two queens. So, but yeah, we just ended up room because, dude, the rooms were like,

2,800 for a holiday in Express. So we were like, Zinn's not paying that, and I'm sure as fuck not paying that. So we were just like, we're going to have room together. I mean, who cares? The boys room together, you know? Yeah. Can I put a ballot in for the next time

the Eagles go to the bowl that I get the invite and not Zinney? They might go back next year, and yes. Plan that. Yeah, it's on camera. It's on camera. It's a little bit. They might go back. They are set up for...

There they are. How drunk were you in this picture? Defense looks insane. Me, Zinni is much, much drunker than me. Really? Much drunker than me. Zen can hide it pretty. Is it because he's a lightweight or?

So. Is this pregame? Is it pregame? Yeah, it looks like pregame. Or it might be halftime as well. There's a lot of people on the court on the field. I don't remember. I'm thinking pregame there.

I know, no, no, it is. It is pregame because there's 28 minutes left on the clock before the game starts. What I like about this picture, Scump, is that it's reminiscent of 2006, 2020, where the league shot pictures with lights on the side and they have like this massive dark spot in the middle, you don't talk about? Yeah. It was the worst, whoever agency they hire there, I hope they never used them again, or that photographer at least.

But yeah, so Zinni is way drunker than me. So we went to a tailgate before the Super Bowl. We were there for probably like two hours. I was only drinking light beer, so I was still. like, I was still like very coherent, very there. Definitely buzzing, but only drinking light beers. Zinny was taking double tequila shots. And I got offered them and I was like, I'm sorry, but I just, I can't.

Like, if I take these, I'm going to be sloppy. And I don't want to be like, I didn't want to be like, that's not a good look. Yeah, well, I didn't want to be super fucked up. Zini was sloppy. Zini was fucked up. Yeah, that's good. Well, I'm, I'm a, I'm a Zini is my spirit animal. I'm living through that state, those statements.

I was just having flashbacks. Yeah. Yeah, Zinni ended up leaving the game a little bit early. He was like, I gotta get out of here. Wait, really? You left early? I mean, that game was over. There were three minutes left in the fourth quarter,

and Zini was like, I got to get out of here. And I'm like, dude, just wait three minutes and then maybe 10 more minutes so we can watch the confetti fall and then we can leave. And he's like, dude, I can't. You didn't grab any of the confetti? No, it was all in the field. Nothing was like anywhere near us.

Oh, they didn't get there? No. But I got I brought back like my lanyard, my, my wristband. That's fine. Oakley's going to send me like a commemorative ticket because all we had were tickets on our phone. We didn't have like physical tickets. I think that's kind of dumb that they do that. And then I bought that Jalen Hertz jersey.

I was surprised at the lack of merch at the Super Bowl. They didn't have like, I was, I was anticipating being able to like go in, find any players jersey that I wanted. It wasn't like that at all. There was like no merch. Who were you trying to get besides Hertz? I wanted either Barclay or DeGine. Shout out coop. Yeah, so I did, they, at least I couldn't find them.

That's so sick that the pick six was on your side. Oh, yeah. It was literally right here. It was right in front of us. Like we're like on the pylon. So it was right in front of us. That is fucking sick. Yeah, it was so sick.

10 out of 10 experience, shouts out Oakley. How was the halftime show from where you were at? There was like no energy in the stadium. Really? No. Because I went two years ago and Rihanna was performing. That was like everyone was hype. All the lights started playing umbrella.

I mean, like, just bangers. Kendrick didn't play like any of his bangers, and all the energy was like this, besides when he played not like us. That was the only time when the crowd like sang along. But so like all there was was just people like bobbing their heads. It was nothing like people weren't singing along and shit. It was kind of like dead in the stadium.

And I feel like it kind of reflected on the TV as well because people were like, I saw a lot of people talking shit on the halftime show. They were like that halftime show just wasn't good. It wasn't. It wasn't great. It wasn't great until like Siza came on. But I also think, I think it was something with the mic.

No. You don't think so? No. It just wasn't like flashy enough for a Super Bowl halftime show. It wasn't like you're expecting this big, wild show. It just felt very small. Yeah. Not big enough.

Is this supposed to be Squatgame? No, it's supposed to be PlayStation. I didn't get this whole bit, but maybe I'm not. politically tuned-in enough. Dude, I saw, I didn't even fuck. I couldn't give a fuck less. I couldn't give a fuck less. I don't,

one, I don't listen to this day and age rap to begin with dope fucking shoes, the Dionne Sanders, dope fucking car. But yeah, Serena Williams, obviously. That was cool. Wow. So yeah, all that, all that is cool.

I just, I just think that this should be like a pop You know what's crazy. I agree with you. I think it should be pop or rock. I'll tell you what, if they're going to have a rapper up there, and obviously the easiest thing to say is Lee Louisiana, that would have fucking banged harder than,

a hundred times harder than anything that he did. Imagine a milly, a milly, a milly, and then the lights come on. Yes. People would have lost their fucking months. Okay, that's one. But the other thing, and- I would have lost my mind. I would have been like, holy shit.

I would have went crazy for that. Okay, awesome. All that aside, like, and again, I don't give a fuck about no none of this rap beef between them, but Drake would have been a better suited person to be up here. Not this guy. That's from a Drake.

I can agree. That's from a, no, that's what I, that's from a Disney and age rap hater. Yeah, also that, that chain that he's wearing is not that,

not an A minor chain. That's the PG-Lang fucking logo. Yeah. There's some people know. Jude thought it was an Amazon because it was Amazon music. It does kind of look like that was like. So I was like, you know, either way,

again, you know, props to him, I don't want to take anything away from him. I couldn't give a shit less. It was just not my vibe. I clocked his flared boot cut bell bottom jeans pretty early in the show and that kind of tune. I wasn't a fan. You tuned out after that.

What is that like the 70s bell bottoms? Is that what they're going to look at them. Ish, ish. I don't love it. I kind of fuck with it. I don't. I don't like the shoes. Oh, I don't know.

But I'm not a sneaker head like you are. Well, yeah, just cool shoes. The bell bottoms are fine. I don't have anything wrong with the fits. I don't have anything wrong with the political statement that he wanted to do. That's what artists do. It's just not my thing. I don't like that Taylor Swift got booed.

I don't like that. I'm coming around on Taylor as well. No, I'm not listening to her music. Are you? I'm rocking with, I'm rocking with T. Swift now. You can't fucking hate on her. Why didn't you like the booze? It's just like, leave her alone.

The fuck she's literally just showing up. Yeah, yeah. She's not out there. She's not, you know. Whatever. I'm not to you support the booze is what I'm hearing. I totally didn't boo. Did you,

oh, you booed? No, totally didn't bill. Again, I don't listen to her music, obviously. Live and Jude like the,

like her music, but whatever. Again, this whole thing was just like, I would have much rather have seen. This part made it ass for me. Uh, what,

what song was playing? He's doing, uh, he's doing man, what is the fucking, it's the, I deserve it all. That song?

But like the song is really great, but you should never be performing it at the halftime. At the halftime show. I don't know. He didn't do any, like Money Tries, Mad City. He didn't do Mad City. He didn't do money trees. He didn't do big shot, big shot. Got nobody inside.

Outside. Cocaine might, but it looked like Gentile. Like that shit in that stadium would have gone crazy. Money Trees? Money Trees. Dude, yeah, he didn't like. I can't believe he did fucking peekaboo. What they're talking about?

They talk about nothing. What they talk about nothing? Yeah, I give it a six. Yeah, show itself was cool, and that's why I gave it a six. Lyrics, I don't even, I couldn't even hear. I was sitting there, like, I was sitting there watching it. It was like me, Nick, Matt Craig's house. And as I'm watching it, I'm like, I can't say anything because if I say anything,

I sound like a hater. So I just sat there and watched. And I was looking at everybody else. I'm like, is this, is it just me? But then Siza came on and it was good. And then obviously, not like us was. He just needed to play more of his mainstream, like. Not like Us was really good.

Like the end. Oh, yeah. Everyone was singing to not like us. Commercials fell off overall as a whole. Were they bad? Yeah. Commercials weren't great. Yeah, bro.

Holy shit. I didn't even think about that. Awful, bro. And I was locked on the commercials too. Yeah, I mean, they don't play. Every commercial was, like, real deep and, like, really trying to get a message across. And, like, we just, like, got so far away from delivering a funny, a funny product. They weren't funny.

They were all very serious. Yeah. They're trying to make a statement. They're trying to make you think a certain way. Yeah. It's all a fucking distraction. Yeah. Worry about making that paper for your family and setting yourself up.

Stay out of it. You're not going to make a change. There's maybe two commercials that got like a chuckle, not even a chuckle, a smirk, if you will. I don't even think I... And that's generous. I don't remember a commercial. Usually the commercials are like... The reason I watch this is...

Yeah, for sure. Especially like early... I feel like late 2000s. All right, Matt. Please. Please. Please. Please.

Please. But yeah, the game just to put... Just playing. Just to put a cap on it. I was just watching it. The game was fucking insane. Yes. Yeah.

It was, it was kind of, I'm not gonna lie, it was kind of boring. Like, even being Eagles fan, it was like, I mean, it was just a blowout. So it was like, there was never, after like the first quarter and a half, there was never like... Any tension? The peak was the Cooper Dijian pick six for me. And I, like, lost my mind. That was early. And then after that, that was like, that's when they went up 17-0.

So that was still like, yeah, probably early second quarter maybe or end of the first quarter, I don't remember. But there was no like after that, it was just kind of like now we're just watching them ice the cake. You know, it was like, there's no tension. We were talking about it like on stream and I said, speaking about Taylor Swift, I said, I was like, it's crazy that Taylor Swift was probably like the third most popular person, third most famous person in the building. and then Blake and George was like who's first responded to and I was like well Trump was there and Messi was there. Oh shit.

And when I said that when I said that Did they show them on TV? They didn't show them in the stadium. I didn't see them. No, no they I just saw it on like social media. Wait. So then I said yeah. Yeah, that's right.

So then I said that and then Blake and George started arguing about who was more famous between Trump and Messi. So then I tweeted it out. And that's close. Yeah, that's what I said. How the results go. Who has more followers on fucking Instagram? I have to say Trump has the edge.

No, dude. Even from a political... Listen. I'm a huge messy guy, but I think Trump has the edge. How? I really don't know. How come he has more followers on Messi then? It's not an athlete.

Yeah, I don't think... I mean, the president of the United States... Yeah, everyone knows... Everyone knows Donald Trump. Yeah, I feel like... You think Trump has the edge of her messy? Yeah. It's his second term as the president.

Yeah, I think Trump has it. He's so polarizing also. Yeah, everyone knows. I do too. Trumper. Dude, you should read the, whenever you get a chance, read all 340 of those comments. Messy, a lot of South American people say you're messy. It's insane.

Really? I can't believe an American would even ask this. Dude, I don't know. A lot of people are saying the, like, the impoverished areas of, like, other countries that don't care about politics at all. They still know. You're saying they still know. Still know. I would go as far as to say like 70% of the female population in the United States doesn't know who Messi is.

That's a good point. Now, who's more popular? Ronaldo or Trump? Trump still. I don't think Ronaldo is that much more famous than Messi. I think if you know Ronaldo, you know Messi. It's not like you know one but not the other I think that but from a female perspective

Which is what he brought up More females know Ronaldo than Messi That's very true. That's very true. Rinaldo is what boys? Hot Hot. He's a haughty He's very hot He is hot That's good

And Messi is Much better at soccer Well I don't know about that I do I don't know about that You want to fight? Yeah Speaking of fights

Good segue M-A-D coach altercation with pro-player? I want to see this. Yeah, I want to see it too. Real fight? Can we hear it? Is this an opposing coach? Like DZ cares much of an inch.

Dude, he's a man of many words and he'll be talking for a while about this. Dude, right there. Right there. That shoulder check. inappropriate I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up a scenario and I don't remember when it was

right but there was this one guy they got in in this one player that got in Richard Lewis's face right and he invaded his space Richard Lewis being from the UK and a fucking man amongst men fucking I'm from what I hear

and I understand grab them by his throat and sit back the fuck up off me now Do not invade anyone's fucking space and assume that it's the internet, okay, where you, where your gamer tag or your screen name can get as close to that screen name as possible, you can say what a fuck you want? Reality is something that much more different. This coach out of fucking line, unprofessional and a bully.

But what happened? Well, what prompted this to... What prompted this from what I understand is that the M80 coach kept on breaking the rules and kept on helping, or maybe I have it backwards. They kept, what was it, Matt? Do you know? Because it's on the topics, so I'm assuming you know. Okay.

Either, either him, the guy, the M80 coach was the one that was breaking the rules and got upset that the other team told on him. Or the M80 coach was talking to that's, I don't know if he's a player or a coach. The player was breaking the rules, yeah. No, no, no. It was a coach helping the team when they weren't supposed to. Okay. Okay. Inappropriate.

There's no place for that in e-sports. If you want to do this, then fucking create a fucking show match to fucking fight. But can you imagine if karma or... It's weird that it's a coach. Or like any of the other coaches in the league like pulls up on someone like that. That would, yeah, that wouldn't happen. I would be okay if it was player on player. Yeah.

That's fun. Like a nade shot versus. Akes? That's fun. Yeah, I was going to say. Coach can't do it. Players, I'm all in. Yeah. Yeah, coach has just got to be more mature. Mature. More disciplined. Mature.

I remember this one. Man, I was hoping it was going to be a fight. Yeah, no, no fist thrown. Yeah, now the player didn't do anything. Yeah, the player the second, if that was me. Me too, bro, I get it. I were to turn around and punched him in the head. I'd have been scared. You cannot, because then you're the fucking,

In this day and age, you defending yourself, you the victim who becomes the aggressor is now the perpetrator. Oh, damn. You've been punched in the face? Yes. I've never been punched in the face. Several times. I never been. I've never been hit in the face.

Really? I'm pretty good about de-escalating things. So am I, I think. Via humor. I'm not a fighter. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I've been pretty much a bitch my whole life, so I've never been the aggressor.

Is that what that means? I'm a lover or not a fire means you're a bitch? No, not at all. Or maybe you just have control of your emotions? Yeah, listen. Your emotions. It's, when you, it's, that has no place in fucking East, which is what I'm trying to fucking say.

That is so out of line. Apparently the M80 people came out and said that they do not support the, they should fire the fucking coach. That's not, it's unacceptable. What the fuck I love it? If JP, if JP Cres went up there and like, push somebody? If J.P. Cres goes up there. and does that, I'll fucking strip.

I'd be so hard. I'd be so hard. I'd be so hard. I'd be so hard. Okay. So it was with another coach in Rainbow Seeges. The altercation which got him banned is worth noting budgie, budged served a 12-month band back in 2022. So this guy has already been fucking kicked once.

He's got a history. Oh, yeah. He's got a history. Oh, okay. Get him out. He's a rager. Also weird. Get him out.

Unks crashing out, as they say. Dude, the other thing is, is like we don't know the cults. cultural upbringing. Like, where's he from? Because maybe in wherever the fuck he's from, it's okay to get up in each other's faces and talk shit and there's fights and there's Matt history, his coach fucking stole one of his players, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

We don't know any of that. Either way, unacceptable. What culture would you say it's okay to get up in people's faces like that if you had to rip some? Growing up, that's how I was anywhere. Venezuela. Anywhere. I asked him.

If you look at, no, you're right. I'm going to give you a perfect United States example. Okay. Detroit. Original Gears of War scene. Fucking bone breakers, bone crushers. Nah, they weren't.

Were they getting up in each other's faces? Oh, yeah. Like this? Yeah. Or like across the setup? No, like real. Like at the bar. In behind, but not even on stage.

We're like after the fucking fat. Oh, so they were like. Yeah. One of our players, or you're talking. early early early like 2000 and fucking eight 2007 eight nine but even like one of our players when we went

like the guy was by the time I had landed I landed on Friday they got there on Thursday he got back from the hospital who remember I see got his fucking tooth knocked out oh yeah oh yeah his tooth knocked out on Thursday night even recent even recent that's right by another player yeah by another player on Thursday night went to the hospital played on Friday they won the tournament Man, no tooth. No tooth.

Went to the hospital for a tooth? Culturally. He got punched in the mouth and his tooth came out. You go to the hospital for that nowadays? It's like a dentist angle. Yeah. You got to put that tooth in milk. So long story short, to wrap this up.

You have to put it in milk? Yeah, you put it in calcium so it's fresh. Really? Well, that's what they say. It might be an old wife's tail. Regardless of the fact to put my thought on this, culturally, every man should be taught to expect consequences when you do what you're doing. This is competition.

And between coaches, fine. This guy looked like a player, which is why I had an issue with it. But now that I see that these two guys are coaches, still doesn't make it okay to me, right? He's in the wrong period. If the dude in the white punched him, I would have been okay with it. But everybody would have been like, you should never use violence. Well, motherfucker invaded my fucking. fucking space. What am I supposed to wait for wait to get hit?

No. No, no, no, no. Anyway, good. I'm glad that they fucking banned them. It's no, no place. What do you get banned for two years? And before that, 12 months? Two years. You already sold the 12 month. For two years and fine 10 grand? I mean, fuck. It's worth noting bodega served 12 month band back in 2020. It's a career change. Yeah. How do you even come back from that? Like two years out of the scene? He just came back from a year-long ban like three years, I guess three years ago. Bro, listen, look at this, okay? So in 2022, he got banned for 12 months. Then 2023 happens, right?

And he's back. And then 2024, 2025. So, yeah, he's a habitual line-stepper. That's insane. Word to Rick James. Damn. I'm Rick James, but. Yeah.

Unacceptable. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Like, I know everybody's a hell. we were talking about it. But yeah, I don't know. Wait, see right there says

M&E coach altercation with pro player. Yeah, you said they were both coaches. I think that was incorrect. I think it was a coach and a player. There was a coach and a player. Which we had at the beginning. You were locked in on that at the beginning and I think somewhere halfway

you decided that they were both coaches. Right there it says right there. Go up, go up, go up, right there. With a fellow coach. That's true. Yeah. We're all over the place with R&SEL. I mean, if we take words and read them,

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That's code Optic50 off at FactorMeals.com slash optic 50 off to get 50% off free shipping on your first box. Obviously, Pred's a hot topic that we need to discuss just super quickly to clear up the rumors that this guy has anything to do with team changes. I am here to officially say that yes. Okay, every fucking move is made and concocted by this dude. Come on, man. So during the watch party, make sure to ask him. Dude, I had to clear my name.

Everyone was like, I can't believe you fucking did it again. I was like, dude, I was like, we got to clear the air on this. I am not making decisions, man. When did you find out? The night before. Okay. I can personally attest to this fact. It was, what, did what Thursday or Friday?

I don't know. I was on the phone with you and you were like. I was taking a shit. I remember that. I remember you were literally like the team might. Yeah. You were like the team might One of my dudes

And it was in FaceTime Yeah we were on the phone for probably like 20 minutes Talking about Literally numerous topics And then it came up And he was like the team might Be bringing Pred back And I was like holy shit

Yeah I was like I can't fucking believe that Yeah What are they doing to like figure out If they're bringing them back And then he was like they're having a call with them To figure things out And that and that was really it

And I was like okay Well let me know how that goes fast forward probably 24 hours not even I'm doing a sponsored stream with off the grid for my new skin yeah that's wild by the way we didn't take that into consideration god damn it and then boom tweet drops I'm like well I guess it I guess it worked out

for the record and people are like what the fuck like I can't believe you did that the Kyler and I'm like brother what are you guys talking about man I will say I will say publicly again you know I texted Kyler separately and you know told them thank you and all the stuff but I do I mean obviously there's it's a human

you got to you you don't that situation is not cool but at the same time like he wasn't supposed to be in that situation anyway right and the fact that he came in and and did what he did like I'm super happy for him and in the fact that he proved yet again that he is who he is and he can compete at the highest fucking levels if it's a structural thing or a team thing thing or whatever, like that's something completely and utterly different. But yes, Seth, that's the GM. Fucking needs to fucking do a little better of a better job of doing that. So with somebody should pick him up.

With a two. Who, Kyler? Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I'm surprised it hasn't already happened. Yeah, I mean, matches start back in what, what day is it today? Tuesday, three days. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just think about how much crazier the league would be if Falcons just dropped everyone and picked up around Kyler. picked up Kyler and picked up the league would just you get not X-Nit Ex-Nit is too sick that the other guy

what's the other guy that took some time off kicks yeah kicks look Kyler definitely fucking obviously like needless to say that's where you see that's where you see

the the allegations of it being a friendship league right but on the other side of that it's like everybody knows like there's there's there's a game to be played or there's something more to just being good at the game that

you have to sort of perform on under right and and the social circles and the and that apparently has something to do with it it definitely isn't optic is definitely a friendship league a hundred percent optic is a hundred percent i would have never dropped nate shot you know what did you say that uh why did you say that what because now they're going to fucking cookie i don't give a fuck oh please Okay, use coconut oil instead of seed oil if you're going to cook me, okay? What I mean by that is like there is there is an element of building that we're all doing. And I know that pro players want to say all I want to do is fucking play video games because I'm a pro player and that's it. But it's not it.

It's not it. Unfortunately for you guys, unfortunately for you. Unfortunately for Shatsy. Unfortunately for any pro player is going to be a pro player for the next 10 years. That is not it. We're building. We're building. Everyone's building.

And the more help, the better. The more that you care about your brand, the better you elevate your team with your brand. And the team, then the league, and then the league, and then esports, and blah, so on and so forth. Bitten. It's assonant to me when somebody's like, I just want to be a pro player. You know what?

I just wanted to be a content creator. That's all I wanted to do. And here I am. Fucking reading shit. Look at me. Reading shit. Reading shit. Yeah.

Contracts fucking. Uh, uh, docu signs. Docu signs and shit. But we're all building. And it's a shame that the more people don't take that into account. It benefits them in the immediate. They're the creator, or I'm sorry, the pro players that work on their brand. Like, they're serving themselves first.

They're getting paid by the org to build their brand and in hopes that they go, they catch a little heat and then elevates everybody. And little by little, everybody elevates each other. It's assonant to me how they don't see that they are the way. ones that are going to benefit the most in that concept. It blows my fucking mind. Anyway, Pratt obviously is going to be on a Rives today.

Going to be on the podcast for game chat. They'll discuss at length in the next week. We will put him on the hot seat and have a have a conversation with him. Yeah. I'm excited to see him play again, man. I mean, again, this team won champs together. So it's like, yeah, everyone, see, everyone loves Kyler. And that's where it's like...

But everybody loved Pred, too. Yeah, exactly. And it's just if the team sees a more bountiful future with Pred, they're going to go with Pred. And they won champs together. So it doesn't really surprise me that Predd is back. I'm excited to watch them go at Major 2. The ring ceremony is going to be there too, right? Yeah.

Roger, another fucking perfect example. Roger, one of the best, if not the best, documentarist, in all of e-sports, but what the fuck does he have to do? He has to sit in sales meeting. He has to fucking look at sales pitches. He has to make sure that it aligns with everything. We all have to do something other than what we were meant to do to build this thing. It blows my fucking mind.

So what are you doing, Zinn? What are you doing this extra? So. That's right. Good and good for you. Hex, what happened with the free throws, man? It is one of the most shameful Hard to watch

Yeah The thing with that is that I was I mean so overconfident in this thing They came up to the sweet I got us into this mess Somebody get us out of it Wait why did you come at Paul like that No

Was that that's not coming at him is he I mean I got us into this mess I'm going to get us out of it Word to Paul X Nah Isn't that what he's Yeah, that is what he said.

I mean, I hope he doesn't take it like that. If you do, Paul, I am really sorry. He's a funny guy. Um, yeah, the shots look like, no, of course. The form look on. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. Like, let me look like you've shot at least a couple times. Bro, I, I pride myself.

Oh, dude, you just started panicking. Yeah, you just, I think he started. Yeah, I think he started. Yeah. Look at that. Look at my head. Look at my head. Go back a little bit.

Look at my head. Right, right here. Ready? One, one, two, three, four, five. Where the fuck is my ball? I still think you're panicking, though. No. I think that's like, dude, you're panicking, man.

I was panicking to get the rhythm. Look at that. You could tear ball to free throw, man. That's not you. Trust me. I told my friends, I told everybody, I'm like, I did it. They came up to the Sweden and like, hey, do you and Brandon want to go shoot a couple of free throws? And I'm like, no, I don't want to go shoot free throws.

It is the one thing that I am 99% confidence in, the disappointed, the disappointment. It is the one thing that I can honestly say that with my, eyes closed, I can make three out of five. I am just automatic. And to perform like this on a fucking NBA court, not only let myself down, but I let down Wheeling, Illinois,

6-0-0-0-0-0. Shameful. I'll never live it down. I need to have a run back. Yeah. I was so, so, so, so, so embarrassed for myself. I mean, it wasn't. No, it was.

Three out of like 15. I don't get, you know what? I choked. I wasn't nervous. I will say. Do these replays hurt? No, I'm starting. They're starting to hurt me a little bit.

This is, this is what I get. This is what I get. I want everybody in the world to see how bad I am at shooting fucking free throws. That's right, a little bit of shame. Well, you talk a big game for basketball. Dude, I am so mad. That's what I get. But I could see the panic ensue, right off the first couple.

No, I was not panicked at all. I promise you were. took an extra second for each shot and kind of settled in. I mean, it's easier to say that in hindsight. But you were spamming it like it's this thing over here. Dude, that's exactly what I said. Yeah, you spamming it like it's one of these. Yeah, dude, dude, once you get in rhythm, in rhythm is, don't tell me about free throws,

okay? But actually you can't. You didn't even sniff rhythm in that. Oh, I did it, man. I was so fucking ashamed of myself. And literally, like, I don't even know how to explain how angry I am. I'm not, it's like not even embarrassment. It's just like, like, I let down.

I thought that's why you didn't go to the bowl. The Super Bowl? Yeah, I thought you were staying home practice in free throws. Nah, no, no, no. Well, tell them what, tell them, tell them that you had the opportunity to go warm up and you didn't. Yeah, he just did. Oh, you did say that. And I said, what, free throws?

I can make free throws with my eyes closed. Oh, okay. This was not, I don't want to spend any more time. That's the problem. You had your eyes open here. You should have closed them? Yeah. Uh, yeah, so I'm sorry to everybody that I let down.

Again, Paul X, I hope that you know that I wasn't, I was quoting you. And because we said that the whole weekend, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, he doesn't get it. I think, I'm excited for this dream hack event. I mean, I know it's a couple months away. Yeah. But, oh my. Call of Duty and Halo under the same roof.

Are you going to watch party that, Seth? What? You're going to be, of course. I mean, yeah. You're going to put you in the middle? I'm so, like, I'm pretty sad that, because, like, honestly, I was like, please Halo, like, just look at the CDL schedule and do it on like weekends where it's not. Obviously, they don't.

I think for 20, 25, it'll be, it'll be better. I mean, they don't give a fuck about what I think. I'm just selfishly, I'd like to be able to watch both of them in full, like in full, you know, because I like watching Halo as well. But yeah, I mean, it's going to be cool. Halo and God under the same roof. Fuck yeah, that's electric. Take us back to those old school vibes. And I think it's only the first two Halo events that.

we can't watch. Oh, really? Yeah, it's the first two. And then after that, I think the CDL's season's already over. So we can watch three, four, and then obviously Halo champs. Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, we got the new Halo team, like, obviously a lot of firepower on it. So I was like, I'm pretty excited to be able to watch them go out there. And then... Do you imagine if we just sweep? Yeah. We sweep Dreamhack?

Dude. Oh, like double win? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that'd be sick. Oh, that'd be so sick. That'd be so sick. But yeah, this year, it's like, it's weird for us because the amount,

The little amount of traveling that we have to do this year is like, I mean, we got our event, major two, so we don't have to travel to that. We ended up not going to Madrid. Third event, which is Miami, I think we're going. And then fourth events, Dreamhack. And then champs. Toronto, right? So two are here.

Yeah, two are here. Two out of five. It's tight. You coming to both? Absolutely. I'm very in on the scene. There you go. Hell yeah.

You're part of the team. That's right. I am on the team and the couch. Last time you played Halo, though, you did get 360 no scote by a legend. Did you? I did not. I don't know.

Can't remember his name. It was drag. Drac got slammed. Oh. Someone got three. And I had like 21 kills. They were both like 8 and 15. So don't you come at me.

You guys did beat us though. It was nice. But then we did win. Yeah. And listen, although Dreamhacked Alice this year is going to be fucking awesome because it'll be the first time that Halo and Call Duty are back in the same house, blah, blah, blah, blah. But don't let that distract you that our main. that our major's coming up and tickets are on sale right now.

Just visit the link. There's 37 days, one hour, seven minutes, and 38 seconds. What's the monetary value under the wanted? They all have the same. What's that signify? What? You're on the team and you don't know that. I don't know.

Let me tell you a little bit of optic lore. Feed me. It was the year of our lore, 2014, when we got a house on 60-50, Russell Drive in Hoffman Estates. Illinois 6-017. I don't remember. Do you remember it? I don't remember.

But anyway, 60-50 is our, the optic house. From that optic house, the original. Yeah, that's where it all popped off. It started out with Seth, Nate, Merck, and Big Timer. And then from there, we cycled through a bunch of people and then literally on the last day of moving out. Now you got me. Hitch moved in. Now we got Tudjee.

Very last day. How long were you there for? Very last hours? I was there for like, yeah, 20 hours, 20 hours. And then we move? And then we move. So technically 60-50. So technically is 60-50.

But technically kind of not. So what do you think? Do you consider yourself a 60-50 alone? If we're talking about getting a white chain rid of the green chain? If we're talking about legacy and optic, I do not consider myself at all 60-50. If we're talking about getting an all diamond chain. I was there I was there from the beginning

Hell yeah Yeah That's funny Yeah that's when we had the fucking The volcano That's a weed smoking device Nate shot had rats I used to do that

In his closet He used to They were just there I'm like yo do you throw your garbage I'm like no The family of fucking mice eat All my leftovers Oh I mean I was doing the same shit

Just really By myself How is How has it been sober? I haven't really like asked you asked you. How's it? You're what? You're at almost a year?

No. No. But it feels like it. Five months. What? I thought you were like, oh, I thought you were at like nine months.

No. It's been a lot of down, I'd say, but yeah, it sucks. I won't lie. It sucks. There's a lot of learning

and growing and pain that goes with it, but that means I'm doing the right thing. So it's been, I'd say 80% really hard and shitty, but past like a week and a half I had a mental flip. You're breaking through? Yeah, starting to.

I wouldn't say it's a breakthrough. I mean, there's still a lot of work left to be done. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I mean, the growth feels good. The progress is noticeable, which is tight mentally and physically. Yeah, I mean, it's tough. Good for you, man. It's tough, but we're working.

So we can do. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. And more than likely this has got to come off. It's on Cuth because I, but I'm going to ask it. Are you, like, obviously, was it, can you drink again? Like, do you want to drink again? No, not really, because I know how it goes.

You just play the tape out. I mean, what's the point of having one beer? You can have 40. That's what I do. And do drugs. Yeah, same. Like, if you offer me a beer, I wouldn't want it because I want 30. Yeah.

And then, you know, I could drink one time. I can have a cocktail at dinner, but then what happens, like, the next two days, it's like, oh, I'll have two. I don't have nine. Yeah. Then I'm doing drugs. That's a slippery one, right? Yeah.

Very slippery. Because, you know, obviously, some people are like, yo, you know what? It's not uncomfortable. either. Like Seth did dry January just because and obviously he cheated here and there but I always I saw that that that was funny. That was funny. Yeah. You got exposed. So yeah I'm just more curious as to like whether or not it's something that you're doing just because of you it was getting out of hand but you know yeah I'll drink again or like do you know that it's going to 100% get out of hand again and therefore you stay. Yeah I know myself like I'm full

an addict in every sense of the word. So yeah. That's what that's, I asked him that before, uh, before the race. Because Nick like, obviously everybody knows Nick's door. He went to rehab, but like, he called him fake yesterday because like he still drinks. Who drinks? Nick. Oh, yeah.

I was like, because they were making like jokes together and he was like, well, Nick's not real. Nick's not real. Like he still drinks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, but you don't know how it was though. Yeah, but he could have been worse. It could have been like, he could have been. fucking that's what I said bending over I said you don't understand I thought he died a

couple times called the cops and shit had wellness check on him yeah yeah yeah you remember when he anyway the long story short I just didn't know if it was like one of those things where it's just for discipline so yeah and that's what I'm saying yeah and and but but when nick came back he was like still drinking and so I texted you I was like hey is this like uh I can have a beer or two or is it like we need to I was going to start locking up my bar If I had a sip of alcohol, you would see my eyes. You would see something get birthed in my eyes and you'd be like, oh my God. Oh, shit.

You'd have to chain me down. Party time. Yeah. Yeah, you have to put a dart in my neck. Just stop me. What is that, dude? Yeah, dude. Old school?

You're fucking crazy. Crazy, man. You're fucking crazy. Dude, that could take down a rhino. He's like, that is awesome. He's like, yes. What are you talking about? Old school, when he gets shot in the neck with the dart?

I don't remember. He's like talking about tranquilizer darts and he's like, yeah, dude, these things, this thing could take down a rhino. And he's like, oh, dude, what is this? And he shoots himself in the side of the neck with it. You never see that right? Play that shit right now, man, right there. I have it like those early 2000s. I know.

Turn it out. Turn it out. Turn it out. I want to see this. It can puncture the skin of a rhino from a honey. That's awesome. That's awesome. You never seen that yet?

No, those early 2000s like Like comedies like I didn't see I didn't see any of them I've watched all of them in like retrospect Do you know Zinie hasn't watched old school dude He hasn't seen E-spon and down you've seen E-Spotting Down Never heard of it Zinn he hasn't seen E-Spotting Downers

Kenny Powders Um I think I watched like most of like the Seth Rogen ones but besides that I've never seen Zoolander And I... Nah. It's not good?

I wouldn't see it. Uh, yeah, he should see it. Zoolander? Yeah, it doesn't age well. Really? I watched it once. I just thought... I was scrolling TikTok and I saw like the...

Or like a gasoline fight or something. It's good. They started fighting the gasoline. I was like, this is pretty funny. No, it's not. Okay. You don't think so? Hell no.

I mean, it's got its moments, but it's not like a fucking... It's not in my top 100 best comedies in the world. What's the one where Adam, Andy Sandberg, fucking races hot rod that shit is hilarious that's cool I loved that one yeah it's fucking cool uh yeah so

get major two tickets go yeah yeah exactly I want to say before we go PSN went down for 16 hours Lizard squad wasn't I was just gonna say it was a Lizard squad No I don't think it was Lizard squad I don't know what it was Yo I can't believe that Lizzer squad was able to hold PlayStation down for 22 days and

22 days and 22 I mean, isn't that what it was? Yeah, it was something like, it was like almost a month. Yeah. That's crazy. Um, yeah, so super. Was this quite after your, before your time? I think that was when like it was better to have a 360 at the time, right?

Yeah. Yeah, I had a 36. Bro, you know what? What I don't like, what, one of the things I don't like about not doing the eavesrup is that, like, I haven't sat down with you for an hour and just ask you just basic questions that I can remember about, about, about you. So I don't know, like when you started like gaming and all that stuff. Xbox 360 was the first console. I think Halo 3 was the first.

game then I really sat starting getting that itch Halo 3 to Modern Warfare 2 But it was a ALGS right Where you made your name No Apex? Apex What's AALGS?

That's the competitive Apex Which I'm blacklisted from Four? Three years Four? I don't really know they've asked Like pro players have asked But I think just someone high up at EA hates me

But there's probably a lot of reasons Like me blatantly talking shit about their game Would you handle that for you? The developers, no Okay. Absolutely not. I pivoted and started doing watch parties, which at the beginning of ALGS,

that was banging. Yeah. That's probably what I'm most known for. Wait, don't know. You were cheating? No. You had bots? No.

Apparently he was ripping bruskees during them going crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was wild. It was ridiculous. Snow cones? I was drinking about, I put a little suit on, and I'd hammer about 15 beers and color commentate a,

three hours of competitive apex. By the end of it I'm just shit housed. And then... Oh, dude, what? I love that. Yeah, by the end of it.

Yeah, and then we play PGA until 6 a.m. And just keep drinking. Fucking love it. Yeah. And that was early ALGS. Now it's like there's four days of so I just couldn't do it.

And also I fell out of love with the game like two and a half years ago and I just don't care. There's a huge update there. I did have a good peak. It was a good run. Hell yeah. Great run.

Rip. Rip indeed. Rip indeed. All right. Well, I guess we covered just about everything my insane disastrous debut as a free throw shooter for the Dallas Mavericks. By the way, what a fucking mistake. What a mistake it was for them to let go of Luca.

And although I am not a billionaire who has its own motives as to why they could just send over a generational talent that was. would allow my franchise to be as popular as maybe the Lakers, the Boston Celtics, or the greatest bulls. This was just a money move instead of what was good for the city, what was good for the franchise. And I feel for Mark Cuban, who was also surprised by all this thing, I told Jude, I'm like, you know what? I hate to say, but people used to say this to me.

It's like, that's what happens when you give up control. and I know that I know that Cuban went through like his the anger that he went through because that was his player and that was his team but he has aspirations for something bigger he sell or something? Yeah majority

yeah to the owner's. I didn't know that either I didn't know that I had no idea yeah yes he was talking with uh with with uh Steve no what's his name uh uh Bill Gates thank you he was having a conversation with Bill Gates and he's like, yeah, you know, I don't, I don't know. I was just a surprise to say everybody else, right? And I think to myself, I'm like, man, when they wanted to drop this guy and I brought up,

I brought up the email, you know what I was, and I, look, you want me, you want me to read it? You want me to read it to show you what they. You still have it? You have a pain? Yeah, because, because, uh, because I remember who it was from. I, I was so mad when I got this. I was standing in front of my grill, fucking cooking this shit. Trying to have a good day.

It's trying to have a good day. It's a Friday. I said, let me talk to their agent. And it starts with, where the fuck is it? Oh, here we go. Thank you for your continued correspondence on this matter. We feel at this point, despite our continued efforts over the last two months and proven history in the past of accommodating salary demands and contract negotiations with the call duty team, have come to a point where we do not believe we can reach a mutually agreeable solution. Over the coming weeks, it is our desire after two more paragraphs.

Over the coming weeks, over the coming weeks, it is our desire to find a new home for the players, an organization that can give them exactly what they want and allow them to continue their playing careers. Oh, so this wasn't just about me. This was about the whole team. Yeah, it was about the whole team. They want to get out of God. Yeah, let's coordinate the next steps as we speak with the interested parties and together find a new home for this team. I in there say, this was your mistakes and not seen in predicting the reaction that this person would have had if you fired the way that you fired,

him before firing him, the guy should have already been on the contract and on the representation through triggerfish. Remember that agency? On Friday, I got a call from this person asking me why we're getting out of call duty. Apparently, before we've been making that decision, blah, blah, blah. I was so mad. And that's why I fought the way that I fought to get to where we're at today. I'm still fighting, no?

Jesus name. Ladies and gentlemen, can you imagine a world in which we get rid of our call of duty team? Only morons. only morons would make that sort of decision. Morons. Then they got rid of Luca. And then they got rid of Luca. Bringing it back.

Bringing it back. We'll see you guys next week. With Pred. In an all exclusive. It was fun.