OpTic Podcast - Why the Cloud 9/Bush Drama Isn't Good for COD | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 278

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

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Is this his movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, burning bridges. Get with it, Uncle. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to welcome you to Optic Podcast episode 278. This episode is brought to you by Price Picks, AT&T, and Rocket Money. We'll tell a little bit more about them later on in the podcast. Sure, you're all wondering what it's like to not be in the finals yet again in my career. Yo, what the fuck?

I feel like it's not on right or something. Why are y'all wearing those, by the line? That looks a little better. Aren't you all beefing? Bro, these, yeah. Yo, because this guy's a fucking traitor. Yeah, exactly. Fuck LeBron.

Yeah. I can't. I said it first. And I know he watches this too. Well, because he does look like him, right? You're not as bad. Yeah, his is really good. Is this is so true.

Yeah. Where's he at? Is this his movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Burning Bridges. Get with it, Uncle. I guess it was kind of like a music video, but yeah. So, yeah, I didn't make it.

I didn't make it another to another. He needs to take it off. You're fine. You got to take it off. Dude, it's so. What's wrong with mine? It's like low-key real. Okay, thank God.

I know. Wait, so somebody did wear this. It was like some shit from uncanny valley. They've been in my drunk for like 18 months. Well, they smell like. If I break out in herpes, I'm going to come to you. Like if I saw you in the woods wearing that, I know it's over. Low key when I walked in here, I was like, could this go wrong?

It's like a ski, like I'm robbing the place. Oh, so you're going to wear it coming in here. What are you going to rob? Yeah, I wore it walking in here. I was like, someone could like, like you could look over and not realize it's Drake. You know the staff. The fuck just walked in.

Well, anyway. Ice man's here. Ice man's here. Ice man's here. So has it been good. It was pretty good. Yeah? I don't know.

I'm not bringing that to this part. You already discussed it on the flycast. I've gotten roasted enough. You've already... I feel like I'm pretty fair when it comes to Drake. I didn't like his last couple albums. This album I like. Same.

I agree. And I haven't even listened to the other two. I've only listened to Iceman. You couldn't sell three copies if you pressed a triple album. Who said that? M&M, but he said double album. No, I liked Iceman. I don't want to bring it.

I don't know if y'all have talked about it. Yeah, we have. But I know people will be pissed if Maniac's on the optic pod for once, and then he brings up Iceman. All right. The only Iceman we talk about here is T.J. fucking Haley. Ain't that right? The pioneer.

He's the man who swated, who poured honey into Dashie's. ear to leave me, to leave the huntsman to go, to leave me to go play for the ugly, O-G-L-A. U-G-L-Y, you ain't got to the L-E-A. Speaking of, we're announcing today the departure of T-J-Haley from the Vancouver surge. We'd like to T-Ege. We actually almost picked them up for the huntsman, I think, Zinney said.

Yeah? I don't know what happened. God, that's not seen that. Huh? T-J would not do that. He wouldn't come play for the hunts? I don't think he wants to play in Challenders again. Oh, I wouldn't, I mean, I would.

It's like that famous soccer player I don't know They asked him He said hey If you wouldn't have made it to the premiere What would you be? He's a second league Soccer player

Uh huh You know he would be doing what he loves to do No matter the level that he sat Which is why I still play Calduty At the level that I'm at I don't know if TJ loves Call of Duty like that No

He should Maybe not anymore Just like Mindless zombie It's just all you know Like how many years deep is TJ Not more than me Oh well

Plans and like ghosts Yeah He was playing chowls and shit I lived the whole life before ghosts. Like ghosts, yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have like a team he's lying in. Pull up when I won V4 him and ghosts.

I think he's selling them. I wish I could say shit like that. Huh? I'm like, I wish I could say shit like that. Pull up when I won V40. Pull up when you. All right. So, welcome back to the pod maniac.

It feels like we haven't seen you in a long ass time. Once you got this girlfriend, all of a sudden you stop fucking with us. You stop being King vlog. You stop hitting me up. He's like, oh, let's go eat here so we can record. Let's go do some stuff during the day so we can record. No more.

That has slowed down a little bit. Same shit, different day. You have a girlfriend? No, I don't have a girlfriend. Bring her up. You have a girlfriend? Yeah, bring her up. Riley.

So, actually, yeah. Why are you getting tight about it? Pull up to YouTube channel. Are you telling people I'm dating you? Are you telling people I'm dating you? Yuck. Yuck. We talked about this from the very beginning.

We are not dating. The good thing about her is she understands YouTube and that I literally say to her like, I'm going to click bait the fuck out of you. She's a... We're good. Garrett from Goodgood. That's his personal assistant.

Oh, really? Yeah. Small world. So that's like... How'd you meet her? At the dog park and I had my camera. So she was like, what's that? Like, what do you do?

Chewy clutch? Like content. Sounds like fate. So I clutched up. No, Chewy clutched. Yeah. Chewy clutched. Chewley clutched.

The dog park is clutched. Well, it hasn't clutched a lot, but I think I've made more friends at the dog park than like my past 10 years of living. You ain't got shit off the group? And it's probably because Chewy's just clutching. But yeah, she was just asking like what I did and she said what she does. And I'm pretty sure y'all are friends with Garrett, right? I am.

Yeah. I mean, you know, you know Garrett too. We partied with him. So yeah. It's just like a small world. A long time ago. Yeah, we parted. Now we'll hit the pool sometimes.

now she's in my videos and it's helped. It's helped a lot, actually. Are we shredded yet now? Working on it. I've gone from... Wait, why? How long has it been since you've been in a podcast? Yeah, for real, right?

Yeah, I don't know why that's the topic either. Welcome back, maniac. It's like making me explain shit that I'm like, uh, what the fuck is there to explain? No, please. I love here. So, no, we're not shredded yet. Do you guys? Do you guys.

Did you guys? Did you guys? I was going to ask them. If you look at your... It's not on my sheet. It'll say who you... It says, heck, Zinnie Scum. That's what I said.

Oh, yeah, well, Zinnie... No, Paige texting me like last night. Zini Harrison is not available. That picture was hilarious in the group thread. Yeah, yeah. I don't think Riley has it, but I think right now it's the perfect time. Right now is the perfect time for Riley to bring it up. So...

Damn, a month ago. That was the last time I was on. It's like a once every month appearance. y'all be talking cod and shit no y'all don't be talking cod on here no we always do for like a brief I feel like there was like two episodes I was on and y'all were talking like challengers

and I just had nothing to say yeah I was like shit they're probably they ain't bringing me back we got a lot we got a lot of cod on there a lot of cod to talk about today is it just all roster shit oh jeez so it's actually weird how much roster yeah who bailed uh I mean dude well there's there's

There's so many rumors and so many like... See, it's kind of weird. Is he getting shit on? Yeah. But it could have been avoiding. Fucking destroyed verbally. Yeah. And it could have been avoiding...

He knows how you feel after all these years. No, the thing is, is like, I'm not throwing anybody under the bus here, production. Production. Production. Well, who was it? Anyway, we were... All I heard was Cloud 9 tried to make a player split a $2,000 buyout. Wait, what?

I want to hear this. I want to hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I mean, obviously know, like, the rumors and shit of who's going on. Okay, I don't know anything.

So why don't we start there? This shit happened last night. It was Zinni. Zini actually orchestrated it. When you say orchestrated, the pro teams? Zini was talking to, I think, Webby. Yeah. I believe.

I don't know for sure. I tuned in. About what? Webis a player. Yeah. So it was something with a buyout from Cloud 9, and they made. Okay, let me read this, Seth.

And the clip explains it all. Yeah, watch the clip. Watch the clip. I tuned in towards the end of it. Ends up getting reached out to by C9. We tried to put, I believe, a $10,000 buyout on Wevey. Of course. Not a very firm buyout at all.

Kind of more just like, let's see what happens. They said they're not paying $10,000. We were like, all right, whatever. They said they'll pay $2,000. And we were like, and they said $2,000 firm. and then they use the words they said you guys can accept that or you can jail an 18 year old

who made a dumb decision by signing the contract and that's where it was like wait go back I want to read that jail wait hold on right here right here right here I'm paying okay uh 2K firm you can jail an 18 year old for making a mistake that you forced him to sign

and threaten to pull him out of the tournament despite him knowing he was going pro I'm paying more than I have to out of respect for what Barstow is doing wait what keep playing the club Who's this guy? That's a C-N-Gai.

Dumb decision. Not Zah guy. That's a C-N-Gay. That's a C-N-Gay. And that's like, all right, that doesn't make sense at all. Cool. You guys hear me? I like if they do this kind of stuff, they release, like,

shit you shouldn't hear. I'll talk to you guys about this message from today about the Wevey situation. I'm a little confused about what you guys mean when you said that we're jailing Wevey. Wevey knew he was going to go. pro. I contacted Wevey before he'd signed anything to the bush. And Wevey's mistake was that he wasn't openly communicating stuff. Webby's made this mistake. Let me make it right by giving you guys back what you spent on him at this event. And then kind of the table's turn and you guys were like, we want

10K for him. Yeah, but I mean, I think you guys are pretty aware of the difference there. And you guys know that everyone's looking for a new 18 year old. So you don't act like it's not like you know why it's 10K. That's what Rafi would have charged. That's what anyone would have charged. The thing that I didn't understand was you guys saying that it's 2K firm and that like you're going above and beyond to pay this 2K. When I'm under the assumption that I believe, you can correct me if I'm wrong, Wevey's paying half of the 2K.

Well, not necessarily, but the pro teams, they tried to guilt-trill-ch challenges teams into not having a buy-out. so that and then they say that like you're holding them against their will because the pro team doesn't want to pay the buyout but it's like isn't the pro team supposed to be the one that is okay like why is the pro team unable to find $2,000 and then like we're supposed to be the ones that are supposed to like take the hit for that where he's guaranteed EWC money his percentage splits are different going to EWC because he's doing girl math anything he earns on top of that is that 100% doing girl math but we're taking a bigger percentage

split. So from his original 5K they get to turning up. Pause that. I mean, him discussing internal company policies. He's doing girl math, bro. Tell me why. Because that's what some shit is we'd do. She'll be like, oh, well,

we didn't get this. So actually, it's free. And I'm like, that ain't how it works. Yeah. I can make girl math work. Yeah, no. He's saying he's getting a 5K guaranteed. Was that all of it, Riley? So it's like, well, fucking play it a little bit more. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, blue bell.

He's paying part of the buyout. You're taking a chunk of the money that he would get guaranteed by going to EWC. Got it. What he told me is that he's paying half the buyout because he told me verbatim that he's giving up his net worth to come play for you guys is what he told me. Right, yeah, I mean, I understand that. I mean, you can kind of refer to Toronto who, who's taken 50% of prize winning. in previously like if it's a first it's around

yeah I understand I understand that it's not that's not comparable at all I just don't understand you guys twisting it that like he you guys are fucking us more than like this is not twisting it that we're doing something wrong

here is insane yeah like he signed a contract he didn't say any we have we literally talked to his agent and he was like well what if he signs with C9 and we were like that would be crazy to do that and he was like yeah that would be crazy but he signed the contract

and then they expect to just like come in and take Wevey for free like it's just like theirs for the taking and so no I mean yeah they have to pay the $2,000 I'm pretty sure Wevey had to pay like half of it which is fucking insane Riley can you pause this right here

you know what the fucked up part about that is insane you know what the fucking It's two grand bro I mean yeah two grand is two grand but it's fucking cloud not Fucked up part about this is that we went through all of this during 2012 and 2015. We went through all of this and it got solved. Okay, Cloud 9 Jack. Okay, this is the man right here.

Some really incorrect information out here. Number one, Webby isn't paying anything out of pocket to get out of his contract. However, his price cut isn't 100% for UWC, though. Unlike his teammates, this is compensating Cloud 9 for the buyout, but Webby isn't paying out of pocket. Webby still earns a vast majority of EWC pool. The call with Cloud 9 staff recorded without knowledge or approval. It's alarming

as I've seen anyone in e-sports do hidden recording like this, let alone see it released to the public. Since Doug Sensor Martin, Doug's wearing a wire. In the state of Texas, in the state that I've lived in since 2017, December, it is

a one-party consent state, which means that you, if you're in Texas, as long as you know, that you're recording, it's legal. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So if me and you call, so let's say, you record, I don't know you're recording, but you know, because I know it's one party can

so you can just wear a wire for free. Kind of weird. I'm wearing a lot of fucking now. Dude, trying to catch one of y'all's. Listen. Here's my thoughts on this. This is fucking insane, brother. You're a pro team. Pay the $2,000. Don't make the poor, the poor kid who's obviously very young, doesn't have a lot of money. They said he's paying his

net worth to fucking play for them. the $2,000. Are we serious? What were they saying? The prize money. They're saying that if you just go to EWC, which all proteins are, you guaranteed 5K each. And they're going to take that. They're going to take that out. So it's like he is paying it out of pocket. Girl math.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm picking up when you're putting down. You're going to get 5K, so really it's not out of pocket. Motherfucker, yes, it is. It's still his money. You're basically joining for free. The thing is that this has, this has, this had already been solved. All of these like Wild Wild Wild West fucking buyout bullshit. Like that had

already been handled. It was already taken care of. And then something comes along that sets the industry back. A shit ton of fucking years. And we're back where we began between 2012 and 2014. The systemic issues continue to arise. Rafi then says, I appreciate the T-Bush gaming for being here. It is Fugé's from Challenges to the league has been going on for years. We're bad guys for trying to run a sustainable business in this joke of an environment. And it puts the players in the middle every single time. No mas, he says. Ironically, the organizations

that have treated us right in the 19 or so players that we moved up are optic, phase, mates, and the ones that are competitive in the league. It's interesting to see the amateurs trying to finesse us for, but for shit saints with the, this is, this is it, man. This is right.

I'm actually so surprised at Jack, I'm surprised at Jack. I'm in Cloud 9 as a whole. If I'm being fucking on, I'm like so surprised. Yeah. being that kid right now, Wevey, like you've been playing your whole life,

you've been just looking to be like a call of duty pro. Like, you finally make it and this is your entrance. Like, this is like what you have to do. You're like, this is what I've been like waiting for. I don't know.

This is like such a spit in the face of that kid. Oh, absolutely. Bro, okay. I don't know who would join Cloud 9 after this. Just to get railed the rest of the year too. Yeah. This ain't gonna do anything.

Like, I don't know who would want to play for them. But this is the sort of advantage that you have being one of 12 things that are available to you. If there's 12 seats in the three, theater room, you get to do whatever you want to let one person sit in your seat. Right? So this is the sort of, and again, I am so surprised that this is coming from an organization

and that I've respected my entire career since they came into the space just because of how they moved and everything that they did. Like, fuck. Anyway. I feel bad for the kid, bro. I don't, okay. Well, let me talk from the owner's perspective and let me tell you who I feel bad for. Fucking the challengers teams and we've all been there where you're trying to make a dollar, right?

And you're trying to fucking continue to work on the thing that you're passionate about clearly because you're not really making fucking a killing if you're an organization, just period. So you're there because you love the life that you're living, doing the job that you're working a job that doesn't feel like a job. And when the time comes to say, yo, my business model is proven. If I take care of these players and I can put them in a position to compete so that they are seen and I'm paying them to do this under my org so that I can get sponsored, blah, blah, blah. and then when the time comes to move them up to the pros to be told to 2K firm and he's got to pay for it it's just not the way the thing should be man it's $2,000

and then they swind to him just like no you don't have to pay anything up front but you know like on the back end like whenever you get your stipend from going to EWC you won't eat like you know that's fair right and he's like 18 years old yeah okay and they probably know that their team's not going to do well I just want to play he's like they're like anything you guys make past top 12 though you guys can keep like that's we're hooking you guys up 100% yeah like the 100% of your earnings past top 8 you guys can have yeah like I just don't

like trust we're hooking y'all up yeah like it's disgusting you just 18 like okay i just i just sign here okay yeah i get it's good i would i would want any other point yay pro player any other point in any period of life i would agree with both of you but since last or Chad GPT and all these other AI models have the ability to look through a contract and say, act as though you are my agents and protect me from things that don't make sense. And it will outline the red lines. You send that back to him. It's like, fix this, fix this, fix this and that.

But players, well, what I'm saying is like, if you're a player, right, let's say Swutty, for example. And he's got to deal with, with, umit. This is like, yo, I'll do all that. And I'll agree to buyouts at 10K for every team. but if Optic, 100 Thieves or Faze want to pick me up, this has to be whatever I want it to be. Like a set buyout? Yeah, like a set buyout because you as a player want to benefit there.

And if at the beginning of all this, the org agrees to that? You know what? I got your back. If you get to go to a team that's going to take care of you, I'll wave it. Or let's try to get five. Okay, let's try to get five. I'll reduce it to five. And now we're both in agreement from the beginning that if these three top orcs

call, then you get to go there at a disc. counted rate. Awesome. Everybody else I'm with you, get your fucking paper. You know what I'm saying? Because the org has to make money. Otherwise,

then the org doesn't exist and what's the point of it? But it's 2K. I mean, we're talking about making money. 2K, I mean, yes, again, I sound like a dickhead, but it's like 2K in this space is just,

that's one flight for a fucking player to go to an event. Like, what are we talking about? That's what I'm saying. That's one flight. That's putting up one player, probably less than putting up one challenge. Why they have to say 2K firm?

Like, who the fuck? are you? Who you tell me that, hey, firm? Like, get out of here. Trust me, we ain't budging. Yeah. And again, this is a sort of, we can't budge. Well, we can't. I will get fired if I try to dodge. We technically can't. He's like, you know where they're going to get that 2K for my salary?

We're standing firm. And then they want them to pay, yeah, it's ridiculous. Damn. Now, I will, I will. Well, I don't know if it's good for the cause scene. This is not good for the gods scene. It makes us look like fucking morons. It's entertaining to the, it's entertaining to the car scene. the masses. I will say. We're tweaking

about 2K. The other counterstrikes looking at as they pull up in all Rolex. The most expensive buyout in the history of call of duty, okay? Him. Me from Mutinier. You want to bet me fucking money right now. I'll prove it. Pred said he, it was him. What was his buyout?

Ask him. Your buyout was 430. You don't speak on others' business. Don't look at me. From what? From Surge. Me from Mutineers. Yeah. So see, in Shotsie had a 300. Yours was four. Damn. 400, right?

Right here. I'll prove it right now. I'll prove it right now. Kind of goes hard. What was mine from you nears? They just said, just take it. Get them off our hands,

dude. So we were going to buy, so when we wanted Pred, when we were in the downtown office, as Stroh and I were going to drop like 400. Seth and I were going to give up 100 each. No, no, no, 200 from the company. And then you and I were going to give up 100 each.

that? Vaguely. Yeah, to get, anyway, so. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. Believe it or down for that. We were down bad. We were like, holy fuck. And listen,

the, and yes, this was during the very, very inflated time of, it was very inflated back then. It was very inflated back then. We were all under the impression that somebody was going to do

what they said they were going to do and then we were going to do what we're continuing to, you know, something along those lines. Regardless of the fact, this is all part of the same bullshit. Open it up.

open it up who's benefiting not the not the not not the not the fans not the orcs not the players it's just fucked brother i mean it's just it's just such a bad situation i just don't i just don't like even open up jack's response again i just don't understand like i this doesn't i from what i know and i know little you know me too blake please brother please uh what i know of him like dude like like like this doesn't seem like him dude it doesn't seem like him all right wevey isn't paying anything out of pocket. But you did just, but then you go on to say that he is. You're just going to take it out from his price.

Just later on. No sense. He is. Now, I understand. Yeah, he will be paying for that. This is compensating cloud nine for the buyout, but Webby isn't paying out of pocket. Wevey still earns a vast majority of the price policy. Yeah, but that's something that you agreed on already, right?

Like from the call duty nine staff was recorded without knowledge. All right. Yeah, that is, that is fucked. That's fucked. Recorded. Yeah, that's fucked. Like what a, what a he? Could have said some crazy shit on that call.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that is, that is fucked up. But one, like I just said it's probably what probably released without his permission as well. I mean, instantly released, I think. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. It was just live stream. Go bare.

Yeah, that's kind of fault. Yeah, I don't think you should be recording. I'm surprised they would do that. No. Because imagine calling them and some of the shit they might say behind closed doors, not being recorded. Yeah, I don't agree. The thing. Okay.

But I don't know. guys are they probably say some insane they're giving you everything. They're giving you all the raw footage of what happens. Yeah. I like the main pole. I like it. I just don't agree with it. Yeah, I like it's like I think it's obviously content, but it's also like I think just before the call you got to be like, hey, I'm going to record

this. If there's something. They could have said that. Yeah, we don't know. If they said that, it's all good. If they didn't. We did. When we were talking to someone in Mexico, when we're in Mexico, Zinia was in the backseat for like 30 minutes talking to someone about, about, you know, this. And he told him, he's like, hey, do you mind if we record this for process? We ended up not using it.

But he's like, do you mind if we, and the dude say, yeah, it's cool. So we did. So maybe they did the same thing. But right here, he's saying that they didn't. The call with cloud now was recorded without knowledge or approval. It is alarming. And I don't see anyone in Eastports do a hidden recording like this, let alone see it released to the public.

Doesn't know about that. See, it's funny how that gets swept under the rug, though, just because of how fuck the situation is. If that happened without this happening, yeah, everybody would be like, yo, Doug's wearing a wire like that type of situation. Checking for a wire or a ear, please, please, please. It's like it's already under fire. There's a guy at the bottom

of the pile like, yo, they recorded this without us knowing. It's like they're, they fucked up worse, so release the, release the cops. No, that's true. This seems to me, no. Wait, what did censor do? What's, what's this Doug? I don't remember exactly. Are we talking about censor? He just recorded names.

He said does. But he wore a wire. He went up to namely. with his phone on and he said, yo, right? You were trying to do this? Yeah, really? It was like trying to get like a pool play seat or some shit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget what the situation was. It was really good, though. God, God, I love Call of Duty. Yeah. It's just hilarious. God, I love Call of Duty. Jerry talking to Wevey's agent mid-cost session

clip. Let's see that way. Let me read this real quick. Did we already discuss this? Okay, cool. He's got an agent. That's good. You have to.

With the major, only two days away, subcontract. A meeting with his agent to address Webby's agent. All right. Where is he going to get an offer to? Do you think like C-9? Like, what are you thinking?

Pause. First of all, you know that Telly-Rite Bush has this type of content. So anytime you talk to Telly-Rite Bush, now I'm thinking about the times that I talk to Jerry in my head. But every time, you know they're recording, dude. Jerry's, I mean, look at him, dude. He took that. Exactly. And he took that.

I didn't even hear it just because I heard right after we say that where did they upload stuff like that like Hey Siri text Jersey Jersey YouTube videos or like

YouTube shorts Mouth bass that you've ever Think everywhere dude so he's wearing a bass pro pro shops hat I want to know how what the biggest large mouth bass

that he's ever worn otherwise take the hat off Stolen Valors what I call that Rafi response I want to see this oh he did Yeah I think we

I think we move on I mean it's We've talked about It's just, it's a bad situation everywhere. Oh my God, this one I did not see coming. Yeah, this year is actually weird just because, like, I feel like these types of trades never go through, ever. They've never have gone through before.

Like, again, you brought up Pred, like that situation, if you're given away one of your best players on your team, which I think Estreel is right now for G2, it's just like, it never happens. But again, they're getting, they're getting Dylan. Yeah. who's obviously he's been struggling but Dylan's Dylan, great teammate, you know,

always trying to get better and shit. But it's like you never see this shit happen. Ever. All right, cool. Yo, this fucking Jersey Jerry, brother, he said probably eight pounds, L.O.L.

I don't fish. Eight pounds in Jersey? I'm going to say, where did you catch it? No, but you agree, right? I swear we never see like a mid-season trade for like one of your top players.

Because like Estreel right now I'd probably have him at number two for gentlemen. or not gentlemen it's G2. Yeah, that's very easy to say. Like, yeah, Kremp was in a different mode at the major, but Estriel was playing well, too, under the radar. Like, I didn't even realize how good of an event Estreel had, too.

Stanley kind of looks like Garrett Clark, didn't he? A little bit? Yeah, a little bit, for sure. Maybe, maybe a little bit. The amount of people that got mad or that were up in arms, Benjay, about Carolina Royal Ravens using AI to make their announcements and how they fucked up the logo. Like, bro, look at the state that they're in. Wait, hold on, right.

You're going too fast. We're still on G2. No, he's, we're talking about this. This is the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the AI that they did. Oh, for their, their graphics and shit. Like, what the fuck? What does their logo actually look like? It just as just, it's right here.

It's made with AI. Yeah, the one for Gwynn, I was like, yeah, what the fuck? The Gwyn one was weird. Oh, what does their logo actually look like? You're announcing the departure of a player? It sounds like in the Raven. Oh. Wait, and was the.

same team, the one who... This is North Carolina. This is not the C9 team. Who dropped a... Vancouver. Cray's? That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Okay, who was the other one that they dropped and it was like a trojan...

Vancouver... Win? Yeah, Gwen. Dude. The Gwyn one was weird. How? Like, how do you come up with that idea and actually, like, go through with that? You don't.

AI does. Shout out AI. I did it. Look at this shit. Like, what? AI made this. I just fucking grinded for this team trying to win, put my best foot forward

I've been in hell for months What's on his neck? What the fuck is that? Pizza eyes Guys got a vaj on his neck, bro The fuck is that, bro. Like just for some What fuck is that? The G is fucking dope as fuck though

I didn't even see that? You didn't see that? The first thing I saw I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, I saw this Were they cutting his neck? Like he's gone? Real graphics from real designers.

Oh, nice to post that now. Okay, what's the time difference between the posts. Yeah, they got cooked probably in there like, hold on. All right, so 621. Go up. Look at this one. 620.

620. Oh, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Two minutes. Streets were hot. They were like, yo, get the, no, no, no. I think, I think, I think, I, yeah. But I don't understand why you are using a player's departure to troll somebody else. Yeah.

I, I, I, I, I, I, what, what, what, what have we built? What have we built? Where are we in e-sports? We're going back. We're going backwards, dude. God damn. We're hearing it. It's just that, this is my problem,

it's just that social media managers, no, man, I don't know. It's like, you're trying to make it about you by showing the world how funny you are. Just make the announcement, man. You're a professional fucking team. How unfunny, actually. But this one's crazy too.

Nasty was rumored to go over to the mates. Or not the mates, sorry, Koi. What? Back to Koi? For Jamie, yeah. That's a good move for them, actually. And that would have been the most interesting move that could have happened. Yeah.

This kid's like the one player that is on such a bad team that's like actually much better than everyone else. Like it's not like someone on surge or like you could maybe make an argument for like lurks if like someone needed a sub. But like this guy's like the player where like if you look at a team change and you're like top six, you're like, let's get this guy because he's going to push it to top three right now. Yeah, he's really like a Bugatti in the trailer park right now. Exactly. Yeah. So this guy is like a hot come on. commodity for sure. And if you went to Toronto, that would make things very interesting.

If they got him, Toronto would be very scary. And that's why I don't think Boston, like, unless they get very, very favorable terms, why would they, they would literally pack a punch coy. And it's nothing against Jamie. I just think nasty right now plays at a much better pace that fits their team and he's going to slay more. Yeah. I still think Jamie's fine. Yeah, I just think this guy's going to be on G2. I think he's going to be on G2. I think he's to be on G2 for Mamba With Envoy

Yeah I don't mind that either Him him Bueno Kremp and Envoy Yeah It's not a bad team Yeah

It's not a team Because Mamba's been like Mamba Mamba is a weird one Because he was struggling And then he started Playing better again Then he started struggling

Very hard again It's like Yeah Just Just too much inconsistency Yo Riley Pull up that price picks Let's do some picks right now

I'm in the mood All this Call of Duty Talk All right Let's all do one pick as we usually do. Yep. I'm going on for that.

Seth, go ahead. You want me to start off? Yep. All right. Give me map 1 through 3 kills. Any of these. Give me, hold on. Scroll up a little bit.

I don't want to pick one of our boys. I do. I'm going to. I am. Give me Joe Deceives more than 62. It's unbelievable. Against thieves? Oh, no, my.

Carolina. Give me that. Exceed. less. No, he's good. Actually, give me encourage more. That's a super low-long. Encourage more? Yeah, give me encourage more. Where they playing?

Vancouver, Minnesota. Minnesota, yeah, give me encourage more. All right, I'd give me dashy mer. Big Barrucci. That's what I was going to do, so. Give me, uh, tell me if this is faded. Give me skies more.

No, that's not faded. That's supposed to good. Versus, uh, C-9. That's very low line. Yeah, okay. It's actually a fucking very low line against C9. Yeah, what about you, Riley? What would you pick?

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I'll leave a link in the description to make it easy for you to just click it. But that's RocketMoney.com slash optic. So T.J. Haley is going to breach. They're going to move purge to a flex. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that either. Like, the dude just barely turned up for the first time this season. And then because they wanted to, it was, there was a rumor was going to drop Purge and Perge and Snoopy, right?

Like back in, I mean, months ago. Like two, a couple months ago. And then he turns up and he does, you know, he does pretty well. But now they're going to move him after he started doing pretty well. After not doing well, like, I mean, come on. That's, it's because they're picking up like another sub too. It's also the very end of the season. So it's like all your options are obviously very limited.

That's why I'm so surprised to see this many changes going on right now because everyone's tweaking. Everyone's tweaking, but like, dude, we're seeing trades like from decent teams. Like G2 is a decent team. And mates. Yeah, we're seeing two. That's an event winner. They're making a change. They have to, though.

Do they though? A hundred percent. They definitely seem like they. They got to be chalked. They're just got to be so much more that we don't know about. Yeah. Like, there just has to be. But if I'm the best, look, and obviously, like, I have a great relationship with all you.

But like, if you're not, if you're a team owner, that doesn't have relationships like that, then it's so much easier to make the right move, which is, yeah, they won in the beginning of the year. Since then, they have not performed at all. So that means that they are there, but there's just one thing that needs to be changed. And it's easy to just fucking point our scoreboard and say, this is the reason. Breaking news? Oh, yeah. We got new maps. Hossi's back for the.

what it was in last year MW3 was it in MW3 Hossi it wasn't right or wasn't it? Yes it was It wasn't B-A-6 for sure It was in every single thing was an MW3 But yeah we got Hossi in for Clifthown Okay good riddance to Clifftown

Didn't get to see it played one time This is a bit scary for Hopsick I can't lie The S&D MEPA Changed Those are two of the favorite ones right there And Ska And now they're bringing Sake And Hossi

They'll be good at Hossi Hossi's fine Hossie will probably be fine. But every team's going to like Hossi. That's the thing. Yeah, Hossi's pretty straight up. You know, like everyone likes Hossi. And Overload Gridlock?

I think Omba could make a significant resurgence if they just, like, get better at these maps or they're better right now. We've got to get better at overload. It's not the maps as the players, man. What does that mean? They need to fucking turn up. They need to look within.

No, we actually look good at the event. We just were horrible at overload. Yeah. Hard point in search. You know why? You want to know why? Because we're trying to kill people when we have the fucking ball.

If you're going to play a 50-50 scenario, right? We're trying to pinch too much. No, no, okay, that. But if you're going to, if you're in a 50, it's a 50-50 scenario. You as the ball carrier are going to get into a fight with someone who has a regular weapon. You're going to die, more than likely. Unless you're busy, right?

Unless you're bruscy. What are you saying? You're saying the optics problem in overload is they fight with the ball too much? Yes. I got to stop that. There's no way I'm letting that go. I think our problem is. No, no.

No, it didn't look at it. That's the big issue. There was three instances in which the ball carrier was looking for a fight. instead of dashing and diving in there. It's a 50-fif... They're not playing for the objective, and it's a 50-50. Because you're going to die anyway looking for that fight. Might as well die diving into the fucking goal.

You got to come off from this dumpshed? Listen, listen. I'm agreeing with you that fighting with the ball, mistake. But if you just... I won't give you a small sample size. Look as look at the two final overloads, right? The two that got ran in by thieves. Especially Den, like, and it's not even Optics' fault

because they play this way against everyone and they have like a fucking 95% success rate. They're very good overload. but the problem is when thieves play it the way they did where they just say fuck aunt behind us let's just go forward they just expose the fuck out of us like that was that was the problem

like they were saying like leave him leave him fucking let them be in our base look about them later let's go cap first I watched the entire I watch the entire game and those two instances in particular where if they would have just do for it I'm not saying they would have scored

but it would have been the same result they would have not been in a fight now if that is the case what I will say about Shotsi and the criticism that he's getting. You got to understand this dude is trying, it's like, he's like a doctor, who's that guy that predicts all the future? Dr. Strange. He's like Dr. Strange. He's trying

to try every single possible scenario on his way to champs as many as he can so he can retain that information so that he can utilize it as his advantage once champs comes along. Well, I don't even think is that. I think it's kind of what Matt said. They were so good at the mode and they played it a very specific way where they'd basically

three hit one side or or like two one, you know, two one side one mid, but then Ant was always pinching. But I will give credit the thieves because even in the minor tournament, they're really good at like making Ant feel a lot less effective than he is against everyone else. They just shove it down a lane. If you hear the listen-ins, like they just say, just go, get two kills and go. And we'll kill the third guy and look for the fourth guy after.

And I'm not even going to say this is all the aunt's fault. Like this was not all the aunt's fault. A lot of the things that Optic struggled with is the three defensive players, they were playing too loose. Like that's not how Optic, like they did that. a lot at the beginning of the year, especially on exposure and Den, where they, like, they troll in garage area, you know, they troll in, like, their little couch area, they play a little too

loose, end up dying, they get capped on. Yeah. But if they get the kills, now ants pushed up, and now you see how good it is the way they play. But, like, they just, they just didn't neutralize them. It was a lot of bad things happening for them and a lot of really good plays from thieves. What criticism does they get? I mean...

That is just too by himself? Yeah, it's like... He has to, though. He doesn't have to, but... I get I I I I I I I I I I give them credit because like in the minor tournament in the search and destroys they like hard played for aunt and you could tell because then they played Miami I think in the final or whatever and they played completely different in the search and destroys they just they just know they just know how aunt's going to play it and they play off of that and yeah like

Matt said it can sometimes fuck us if if the other three aren't playing like hard hold and let him let the play develop and him get in the play it's four three Well, I am not going to pretend to know more than either of you, so I will obviously agree. It's not like he's doing anything wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get it. I mean, you guys see the game way differently. I can't even, we're not even looking at the same game.

Because against everyone else, it works. Yeah. But people have been, our overload was really bad, so we, it's starting to not work. But that was like how to play the game mode at the start of the year. Now it's like evolving a bit, and we just need to rework how we're playing it. 100%. Yeah, I think if they play thieves tomorrow and they streamed it and we watched it, it'd be a different version of the way they played at the event. Yeah, we'll be fine. It's just little things.

It just sucks. Three tournaments in a row. They get second. They're so close every fucking time. I know. Something's got a give. Something's got to give. This one hurt a lot. Like being there watching and it's like, they got this shit. Brandon hits that crazy snipe and we're like up three to. We're like, holy fuck, the momentum after that's got to be crazy. Then we lose a close scar overload. Yeah, they'll be fine. playing with Brandon like every night like they'll be fun what were you guys playing counter strike yeah you know they didn't have the camera on on uh in the dog out but it was me karma and uh and and jp and bro when that snipe happened bro like the way it sounded backstage i can only imagine when you were right next to that fucking i most faced i jumped up too fast yeah yeah you got lightheaded yeah i texted brand and i was like yo go back and watch your snipe and just stare at me

for the next five seconds i'm like I like go silent for five seconds. Everyone else is still going nuts. And I'm just like, I hadn't really eight. I hadn't really eight. So I was just like a shot up, bro. That is the oldest player in the league. That's me.

That's me. That's me. Kyler got stung by a B. It's just a weird, weird one. Wait. So, okay, cool. The crowd, man. The crowd, the way they all got up, bro.

That's just so insane. This was an all-timer, bro. Just. It's so funny. It's on scrapping hundreds, yeah? The people who he chills with his shit? Like it's literally the people we play kind of Shrek with. Yeah.

And Brandon's the hop, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's just so funny watching it like, Mason's NPC clap. Yeah, he's like, ah. So good. Look, I'm not... The event was... It was fire to watch, though.

I was sick all week, so I wasn't in the podcast last week. But, yeah, the event was... Best events for far, for sure. To watch, yeah. Uh-uh. I have different... The event itself, I was like... It was hot as fuck in there

It was hot as fuck We usually have time to like do shit after the event We didn't we'd pretty much go straight back sleep Which is like Get that out get that chicken What was it? The Caccio Pepe at the hotel That she was so fire

Yeah it was good but You didn't think it was insane? No Like I saw that happening He didn't think the game was over He thought there was more rounds before It was like when he got off to celebrate last year or shit that I could even kill him.

Yeah. That obviously means that like Paco's like should have been watching this. Like maybe he got bad timing. You know what I mean? So he's like middle. Like he should be middle like watching his earlier. So then whenever I slid out, I was like, okay, I'm just going to pre far, not pretty far, but like pream where he's going to be. But then by the time like I was going to aim in, Paco's already shooting at me.

So I'm like, what the fuck? This has to turn to a quick scope randomly. He doesn't hit that. Is he dead? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was out there. I would have held an angle. you would uh i did not expect brand did that at all i would have gone to like that little corner and then just fucking aimed at because i knew he knew he was gonna i thought i was gonna follow scrap after he killed did he grab his gun in top green in market did he hear him in market fuck now hex you're in that

exact situation yeah you popping out and getting that snit no as i said i would have gone to like that off ang and just looked at that middle just waited for him to come in but he slid out i would have gone back but you have gone up the steps gone behind the bomb even how much time did he have I don't know if he had that much time. He had 20 seconds. Yeah, you got to make a play quick. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about, not a little.

Let's talk about the Huntsman Swutty move to the bench roll. I think given the opportunity to explain it a little bit further from both Zinni and Swutie and the team, it would have made more sense. And there was a lot of different, you don't have to play this, but there was a lot of mixed opinions. I understand the mix. And he was getting. Actually, I wouldn't really. I wouldn't really say, show it to him.

Show it to him, Riley. Putting Zidia this video is crazy, dude. No, show him the picture that I sent you, DM'd you. But,

you know, obviously with, with care. So the whole time I said, I'm like, guys, let's wait to talk about, let's wait to talk about

Swoodie and the move today on this podcast last week so that we can have ample time on both sides to discuss like the move. This is a picture that I sent in our chat when I saw how badly...

I was crying, bro. How badly the two... I saw this shit. I was like, yeah. One of my best moments, I think. That's good. The thing is, it's like, I like swoot a lot, right? But, you know, when your teammates say what your teammates, like, that, you know, when...

It's a team thing. And if a lot of... If three teammates says, like, yo, I think that we have a better chance with somebody else, then ultimately, that's what it is, man. and it has from an organizational perspective, like what do you do besides listen to three of the four players that they want to make the move?

And I'm not saying that it's right or wrong on that. I don't know. All I know is a SWOOD fucking wonderful addition to our system. That's just how it is, you know. People, they see them on camera. So it's great on camera. Fucking so good. Yeah.

And then they, you know, they like the kid obviously. And then, you know, but here's the work out from a team person. perspective and they get upset that he's not on the team anyway. And there's a bunch. There's a bunch of things. Pro points had a role to play with this.

Like, food didn't have enough. We even contacted Kenny to see if he had enough and he didn't. But, you know, like, we tried it all. And I can tell you that the same people that are mad at this move. There is. Mountain Bucket. What's a Bruce? I can tell that the same people that are mad about this move would have been mad at the fact that we kept them on.

And then we didn't show up to fucking EWC or that we didn't make it a champs. because of lack of pro points. Everybody would have been like, what the fuck? They should have made a move. They should have picked up somebody with pro points to at least make it to the point. They should have given everybody the best chance scenario. And at the beginning of all this,

the point was to not recycle pro players, right? Period. Yeah. I think that's the thing the community's most up in arms now. Which I kind of understand. Yes. For sure. Same.

Definitely good at. Yeah. Listen, I have my opinions regarding the huntsman and everything that's going on and I'll make my opinions heard. loudly, but I do want to, like, I'm, I'm in this very specific moment, as this was happening, I was like spectating it from a fan's perspective where I gave my opinion, but the decision was going to be made regardless.

Listen, I can sit here and say, I fucking told you so to everybody that was involved in this video. But it's just, if, when you don't have enough time to explain the move truly and with Swoodie next to you, like, it makes it a lot more difficult for people to be like, oh, okay, There was no shady shit going on. You know what I'm saying? But the same amount of people that were fucking mad about the move would have been mad at me and Zini

and everybody else for not picking up a player with enough pro points to get us to where we need to fucking go to. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. I think it just comes down to if you have three players on a team that think it's the best to get rid of this player and pick up someone else because that'll benefit the team the most. Yeah.

I think that's as... Okay, yeah, the most important part of everything that was just said is that the players wanted to make a change. That's all that happened. The three players wanted a different fourth That's like really the most important part And Zinnie sitting there like

Yeah that makes the most sense I would then we can qualify for worlds and all that Like it just makes sense Imagine if I said Not think about how many people Would have been mad If I said

Man Souti is way better than all of you on camera In fact you three go We're gonna keep swoot Because works for better For this optic program Then you pick up three old pros Sure whatever it was

Like no matter the move People were gonna be mad Maybe for that move Yeah because they just Switty is unavoidable. Yeah, Swutty's a likable for Zootie. Swutty's a likable dude. Yeah, he's very likable.

Yeah. Ocus return back to challengers. What did you say? It was Zini. Yeah. Ocans returned back to challenge. For the record, I loves it. Like a lot.

Ocus's return back to challengers will see him up to another couple of ex-stallions in Swutie and Mani. The Russell will be rounded up by 18-year-old skill. The Ross, that's a cool name. That's a good challenge, team. Yeah? Yeah. Number nine to 10.

also Asim is now with Arsides, Mac and Yuley replacing Rispy. Dude. Oh, I'm sure. Dude. There's so many good fucking players there, man, that can compete against some of these teams. Yeah, we saw it at the major. We saw it at the major. We saw it at EWC.

At what point are we going to do what's best for the sport? Poor P7, man. Those guys, oh, man. Imagine that son. Oh, man, that's a tough one. Lose a 5-2 and then go to the challengers. Lose a 5-2 to A. knockout gentlemen, B, move on to the bracket.

And then you go into, obviously, the challengers event. They get top 16. They lost to, like, the 21st seat or something. That's a... They were probably so checked after the pro thing. Probably weren't even trying to challenge it. Unbelievably checked. They're like, it was right there.

They could taste it. They just had to not scam, and they scam. When's the next challenger stuff, Riley? Is there, like, an elite coming? Because we're going to play that Sweetie team at some point. Oh, yeah, it's fate. It always happens. Yeah, it's going to line up to something.

point. And you know what's going to happen. That swoop got to pull out that boom stick. He's going to be going hard. He probably fucking well. Chin to drop swoot. Yeah. You know he's going to go in on him. He's probably being playing next door to them.

And I'm going to tell you something. If he fucking alphas them, I'm walking in there and be like, hey, Swoo, take your seat back and kick wherever you went off. Damn. And then everybody's going to get mad at me, but I'm cool with it. Because I love everybody and I love the space. No, they probably like that. Bro, no, no, no, it's because I get to me.

The fans would like that. Bro, I get to experience it happening in front of me, and I'm just like, I'm like, ooh. And then when Zinnies getting fucking railed, I'm like, oh my God, that would have been me. That would have been me in this case. So I'm like, I'm like watching it. I'm like, man, I can see why they're mad. I'm mad too. But again, have we waited till today to do a full explanation with both Zinn and Swoot sitting next to each other?

It would have been a much different scenario. But things were going to leak and people were going to wonder. And then my discussion with that was like, well, fine. If it's going to leak, then there's going to be a lot of comments. and content around there. And then there's going to be more when we announce Awakening on Monday.

And they're going to be, what's happening with Sue? What's happening with Sue? So there's more views and more curiosity and more interest. And then finally we have the podcast where they both explain what happened

and then boom, culmination. One week drama, viewership content, all that shit. Everybody eats. The five days, rather?

But no. What's GTA 6 release? All right, Seth, I saw you, Stumper jumper. The Eniolator Cup? Yeah,

I don't want to talk about last week. I mean, holy cow, I got slammed. What game was it? 2XCO fighting game. But this was like... Is that Darius? Yeah, it's lead characters.

Oh, is this where you play a bunch of different games against other creators? So basically, this was week number three. Right now we're in second place. I think if we get... We can't beat Peanuts team. They already won. I think they're like guaranteed first, but you get points every week for playing different games. this week we actually won somehow.

I got like 16th or something. I got fucking rocked. Wait, who's we? My team? Yeah, it's me, Ludd, Squeaks, Fusley, and Lily Pichu. Okay. Yeah, this is just me getting dogged. Getting fucking destroyed?

And this was like my peak sickness too. By double lift? Dude. You don't understand. That's an OG. He won this. I used to love double lift. He won this last.

Last year, the fighting game, it was Street Fighter last year. But he won it last year he wanted again this year. He's just good at all of these games. I read two comments about me last week. One, that it was funny. Real ball, no-ers know that the odd one. They left when I said Theodone. But it was like a thing back then, like, whatever.

And that I said that he was like one of the greatest. And obviously, I got an old ball like that. I don't watch that. It didn't affect me. The other one was that people got mad. One dude got mad at me because I wear glasses when I read the ass. And I'm like, if I don't read the ads, I'm going to look like Steve Ushamey and inducted D's or Mr. D's just like reading back and forth. So I put the glasses on to not distract you guys while I read the ads.

He says he thinks he's so cool wearing those glasses. I don't want to watch this. You do wear them a lot. Huh? You do wear the shades a lot. I do like them. They're cool, man. I'm sponsored by Oakley, dude.

And also the meta glasses? Awesome. He could be recording. Maybe he's recording his ad read content. He's recording. the next, he recorded the swoody move. The motherfuckers don't get it, man. But yeah, these guys.

Bugulators. Mound up. Did he get an O-P team, though? Don't lie. Just OPEs. Damn, they, he got the scump treatment. Who is it? Him, double-lift. It's him, double-lift, Matt.

Natechat? Yeah, him double-iff, Matt. That pisses you off. Yvonne. Nade-chot has a guaranteed first place. Not my hutch. they uh dude it's like whoever has double lift just wins item last year one

go up go up oh see one last year look look at seth serious everybody else has their pose seth is like I'm here to fucking I didn't pick that six I'm here to win some money but dude double lift he's just so good at every game it's like his only weakness is cod is it really? I'd fuck him up in here you just gotta be good at like three of these I feel like if you're good at three out of four I feel like you're like a strong

strong pick do they do you know which ones you're playing ahead of time yeah yeah did you don't know practice it? The games are all released. Did you play League of Legends yet? Yeah, we got... Who were you laying against? Fucking...

Tyler won and he fucked them up. I played double. What happened? Okay, we got dogged. Where, did you play Bot Lane? ADC? Against two? Against Double-Lift's team?

Yeah. It was me and Fusley were both gold and it was Double Lift and Yvonne. So you played Doubleift? He leaned against Doublelift. How'd that go? Who did he play? Who did you play?

We got destroyed. Well Double-F actually did say that we didn't like We didn't really have a chance because of the matchup There was Jinks and Lulu against Caitlin Leona They were playing Kate Leona? No, we were And Double-F was like you had no chance

Like Kate Lulu or Jinks Lulu He was like you guys were fucked Who's better? Faker or Double Lift? Ted, come on And who do you? We should still go find out that one be once. Faker.

Double lifts, Magoo. But yeah, no, it was fun to play against him. You can still run them in counterstrike. You can run everyone in counterstrike. Yeah. No. Last year I got MVP in Counterstrike. Yeah, them to go hard. Fucking Salamander, man. But we had such a godlike team. It was like, we were just, our team was so good. It just made the game so much easier. I'm curious to see how this year goes. No, but you did your thing, though. Like, you had a bunch of fucking clips. Oh, yeah. No, I was playing well. But it's like our team was just so good. We were in favorable positions, like,

pretty much all the time. This year, obviously, I'm not going to be in as good as spots. We'll see how I do. Yeah, we'll see. Best of luck. I believe. All we've got to do is get second. We're playing for second right now. I think all we have to do is get second and we get second.

So I'll take second. So yes, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to stay connected with the tournament by checking out H-C-T-P-S-A-T-T.com, I will leave a link in the description. For more details on the teams, giveaways, and games, link is in the description. Yeah, it is hell fun, though. I said if they invite me, I'll play every year. It's just fun to, like, play with new streamers. and play like other games against other streamers that are good at those games like playing double if they're sick dude the issue with those type of tournaments is just having balanced

if the if the teams are balanced it's so fun it's hard to balance that type of stuff but it is hard to balance and it's a draft too not if you get enough like enough enough sample size like this year and last year like you can see who's who and it'll make it easier to to spread them out you need hitch for that yeah no hitch is gonna give it actually yeah exactly hitch did bring a halo I just don't know how many unicorns there are like double if. He's literally godlike at all of the games except God. Like the fighting game

he wins it every year. League, he's insane obviously. It's like... They need to do chess. Chess? I'd come in. Substitute. Have you played him in chess before, Matt? No.

There's the savior. All right, let's see what's happening around the internet. GTA 6, just tell me when it releases and taking this with great What it's just story mode and I'm actually glad it's going to be story mode

Not just instant Is this an old post? Okay Oh yeah, I was going to say It's releasing today There's no fucking way Oh It was supposed to release today

Yeah it's gotten delayed How many times now? Probably like three years Well like how many times Has it been pushed back though from the release? Dude, I want to play it now They're doing the right things because I haven't played it since PlayStation 2

and now I want to play. Dude, I didn't know that GTA 5 was released like 13 years ago or something. It's been out for so long. That's kind of nice. 13 years and it's still as big as it is. Been out forever, bro. I thought it was like five years old. No.

It's been out forever. This is awesome. Renegade qualifies for the 10,000. We got to make an optic server though. And everyone has to play. Everyone has to play. Absolutely done. It's already done.

Back like he never left Renegate J.W has qualified for the 10,000 doubles in Dallas 2B2 Halo Infinite Land on June 6th. I won't be here but that's dope. I'll be in Chicago watching typical cats. They haven't gone on tour in a long time. Yo, they slam somebody. I was watching a little bit.

I was going to say, wasn't like... They slammed Lashon cycle. Yeah, Lasron cycle too. Renegade went like 14 and 0 or something. Yeah. After not playing for how long? How does that happen? He's already plugged him It's also like I mean you've played Halem bro

Like twos are a lot different in fours It's also like once These are two V2 players You have winners You have people that have just been winning And winning and winning and winning Once they get down a certain amount At a 2V2

They probably just start fucking trolling And just flying out I feel like once you're down 173 It's like okay It's also legend too And Renegade's head He doesn't want to die He's still

I mean these It's not even about to win anymore Some of the best 22 players Ever? In the game Legend and Renegade or Cycle and Last Shot? No. I mean, both of them are...

Cycle and Lashel don't really even play to is like that. Oh, really? But, like, I'm not saying this wasn't tippy. This was extremely tippy. Who could take down Legend and Renegade if they're at their peak? Bound in someone. Bound and someone. Bound's like the other two's guy.

Yeah. Yeah, Bounds got a twos one. Like, even at their peak, like who could Bound get to take them down? Probably someone weird. Like a frosty? Like a falkated. Really? Yeah, like a two.

Just someone he has ultimate Kempware? Just some other twos player. Tuesdays is a lot different. Yeah. That is very tippy though. And also it's just funny that Kaysons just like... Dude, they beat him 25. Caseon's like...

Wait, that's Kaysons League? Yeah, it's Kaysan's thing. It's a face thing. Just another little side. It's just like, I don't want the W spam. I don't want... I just love Halo. I'm like, do Kaysan, dude.

We get it. Just fucking admit something. He's like, I just don't care. I've been playing since Halo 2. Like, dude, what? It was a good tip. Sixty years ago today, last low, Hanyeech. About two Papa John's pieces for 10,000 Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's first real world transaction, that same amount will not be worth $700 and $74 million. I can live with that. I can believe the person that accepted it had Bitcoin wallet ready to go. You can't think about it like that. Oh, where's that, where's the guy that... How'd you have ever known? Where's that money? Where's those Bitcoin?

Like, you think that person who received it owns $774 million? Just a fucking Papa John. It doesn't even know. It doesn't even fucking know. Imagine that guy that had the wallet got into a car crash, fell into a river, never to found again. There's a wallet at the bottom of the east side river. Let's go look. With a fucking wallet. We have people been saying that the founder, Satoshi, his wallet is just dormant somewhere. And it's got probably at this point billions of dollars of Bitcoin on it. And people are

like trying to figure out where the fuck it's at. Mm-hmm. I skip the fours a clip. I need that. Because I don't know. As Satoshi, nobody knows who he is, right? It's kind of like banksie. but they're like they're trying to find his wallet Yo so what happened with Kai Sena Why do you stop streaming Because there's rumors He's gonna be back this

Closing line I thought The closing line? He's taking over fashion Brough Oh Fashion Paris week Yeah yeah yeah yeah All that stuff

So Yeah So we're six Are you Are you So yeah So yeah There's much

There's like Like Like they're Like you know You know I'm going to be in a mini break. We'll go back in the barano. And that's the clip?

Dominican. What was this clip time? Or what? You just click by this in the pot. Fucking Spanish, man. Fucking love it. So many different accents and way of saying shit. I mean, yeah, but the way he said that was like more like AMP is going to be.

Yeah, sick. Mexican Spanish, obviously is the best one. But yeah, he might be returning. the summer look back at Kai stream no need. All right, if Kai's not streaming the summer, blame on really. No need. Who's the go? But yeah, I feel like it's just so hard.

Not speed. Speed, yeah. When you do shit like this all the time, it's like, how do you keep raising the bar? You set the bar so high. Yeah. Dude, you're lighting fireworks like this guy. I mean, I guess this guy fucking speed did do that, right? In his mom's bedroom or some shit.

What fireworks? Yeah. I don't know. Nah, this guy has like a full-on variety show, though. the time. That's why I'm saying he's the greatest. Because when you're watching, look at it. Look at the variety. The Disney princess?

Yeah. Like, what the fuck? It's just something. It's all this variety in his bedroom. Goats and stuff. Got fucking goats in his room. It costs a lot for that Mercedes-Straudan.

Icarly episodes? I don't ever see any of that. How is this fucking carpet still intact? Yeah, right? After every clip I just watched, I just, I see another clip and it's just perfect, perfect carpet. it. What is this? An entire soccer match

was broadcasted using an iPhone I-17 Pro match in the Galaxy L. yeah, but look at everything that's attached to it. Relax.

An entire match was broadcasted with an iPhone rigged to Hollywood professional fucking camera. A $70,000

IMAX camera. Yeah. It still looks like shit. Look at it. It doesn't look that great. I didn't look like that great. Yeah, we take iPhones for granted, bro.

We do indeed. We do indeed. MLS and MLB make history shooting an entire... Okay, done. Ferrari announced his first electric vehicle and the internet is divided. Does sign and Terry to John Ivy? Oh, Johnny I.

What's up, Pamla? Pam! Ew. Pam? Pam got a haircut. What do you think? A haircut. Can you even recognize it?

You like Ferrari. Seth, would you ever get an electric one over a gas bottle? Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. It's a disgrace. It's like buying that new AP. You see that?

AP swatch. Yeah. Are you pissed about it? No, I couldn't give a fuck. Because now motherfuckers can say they have an AP. It's cool. For 400 bucks? When you dropped what?

You drop what? 400 grand. Well, relax. No, I did not. No, I did not. But. I wouldn't get it. I mean, no.

But the swatch thing. The swatch thing is like, cool. It's like, like, let people have fun with I don't get people mind your fucking business. Everybody talking shit of people who can buy with like, man, like living. If everyone just worried about themselves. But please. This place, this earth would be a better place.

That's not going to happen. We wouldn't have any podcast stuff. I see. Yeah, open Twitter and fucking God. What, everybody has an app? Twitter ain't real anymore. Twitter is insane now. It's actually sad.

27 minutes a week is what I spend on Twitter. Yeah, Twitter ain't real. I just, I open and I scroll a little bit and then I start feeling weird. What the fuck? Yeah, what the fuck? Wait, what happened? Dude. Wait, I just got on what happened.

That's the whole clip. These two are fucking dumb, man. Dude, Fettie's lagging out. Now he's getting fucking choked to death. All right, well, I hope that that doesn't go any further than that. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for tuning into this episode. We appreciate you guys. Share with the friend to tell people about it, how good it was.

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