OpTic Podcast - WILL NO ANTI-CHEAT EFFECT CALL OF DUTY LEAGUE 2021? | OpTic Podcast #6

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

In episode #6 of the OpTic Podcast, we talk DMCA, Router Boosting, TFUE Swatted, and our best moments of 2020. Let us know in the comments below what your favorite moments of 2020 were! Learn more abo...ut your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What? Like an airplane attendant? You can just, ding. Oh, yeah, yeah. They'll turn the light on for you. Get you drink. Get you drink. And they'll be like, oh, do you want to run up a building?
Starting point is 00:00:09 Do you want to? That's fucking up. Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode number six of the E, oh, whoa, of the optic podcast. Roger, good news. I have the actual logo so you don't have to be using the pixelator stuff. Shout out to Face Neekan, who was the first guy to, he used to be a designer. at one point. Really?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Yeah. Wow. He was like the best designer. Yeah. He used to, he had this graffiti design for hexes. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Yeah, he did. For hex or not for hexes, for Banks's Twitter header. And it was nasty. Are you just saying that because you know that I don't like any graffiti that people do? No,
Starting point is 00:00:50 I forgot. Okay. But for non-graffiti people, no, I was not. Yeah. For non-grafiti people look dope. I have the graffiti writers by nature are like the biggest haters in the world.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Yeah. By nature. No, do they just like their own stuff? Huh? They usually just like your own stuff. No, it's like you don't get respect unless you do like one of two things. Like you're either incredibly talented and your letters are just like revolutionary or just super like legible. No, I'm nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Or you get up a lot. But that's it. Who are you gassing yesterday on Twitter? Was it Asmigold? Gassing. Who were you gassing yesterday? Or yesterday on Twitter. I created who I saw.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It wasn't Asmigold. Because I don't watch, wow. I think that was Jack. I'm like, they're obsessed with it. They look alike. I love Asm Gould. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Similar success. All right. Well, you got sure it wasn't XQC? Oh, good segue. Thank you. Thank you. So apparently XQC got DMC on Twitter, which obviously, like, if nobody saw that coming,
Starting point is 00:01:56 nobody understands the way of the world. I'm confused. Did he get DMC8 on Twitch? Twitter. Well, DMC on Twitter What did he get DMCA for? A song from 10 years ago in one of his videos Oh, in one of his Twitter video?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah, but like, isn't Twitter, isn't Twitter DMCA? That's nuts. You just get a slap on the race. I mean, well, for now, but it will get, it will get to the point to where you Unless you do something like obviously really bad. Yeah. He still got his Twitter account, though. He didn't get deleted or?
Starting point is 00:02:25 No, I don't know what happened. How does that work? There's no way you can just get erased from Twitter. No. Unless you do something really bad, obviously. Yeah, Roger, can you write something else besides XQ, DMCA? I'm like, can you give us some details? They probably could erase it.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I mean, what is it? Like two copyright strikes on YouTube? They delete your channel. I mean, same with Twitch now. It's three and they permaband. No, it's three on YouTube as well. So wait, how do how, wait, wait, it's three on YouTube? So how do you get strikes?
Starting point is 00:02:53 How do you get copyright strikes on YouTube? It's got to be real back. It's different now, right? Most of the time, they will do like the content ID claim and they'll just monetize your video. You have to upload like, you have to like literally upload Oceans 11. Right. For those of you who don't know, DMC, DMCA strike or claiming content is, let's say, for example, I upload a sniper montage. This sniper montage has Drake.
Starting point is 00:03:14 What Drake's people will then do. What Drake's people will then do and say, you know what, let's not mute the video. Instead, let's monetize the video, which means that any ad that's made on that, any ad money, goes to them and not the creator. It's the second best way to do it. second best way to do it. Instagram is the best. Which is what? You just type what song you want.
Starting point is 00:03:34 If it's available, you can put it all your story. Yeah. Yeah, that's the best one. But I think they paid for that. It's like getting to the point where, I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:41 obviously you know most, what songs are and aren't copyrighted. But I was saying if, like labels or like the streaming platforms, like Spotify, you know, all the major streaming platforms, they had like copyright,
Starting point is 00:03:56 just somewhere more visible. It would make it so much easier on people. Because, like, I mean, you know for the most part, but how can you really know at the end of the day? Yeah. I wonder if you, like, keep track of that. Yeah. So YouTube streamers, they can, they can play Drake songs without getting banned or anything. They just get claimed.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I'm so jealous. I think that's the risk that you take, though, because if they wanted to, they could actually strike it. Yeah. So it's just the risk of the-but-but-I-but-I-B-B-B-I-B-Bad. I don't think so. That's why I like that case with H-3-H-3. copyright, you know, like, claws in their whatever,
Starting point is 00:04:33 you know, they just didn't enforce it at all. Well, they did, they just muted it. So they muted your vod. Yeah, they would mute your Vod, but they wouldn't like permaband you. Now it's getting to the point where, I mean, they were acquired by Amazon, so now it's kind of a different story.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know you to play the music or they say you can. And then you still can get striked on it. Well, it's the record labels. It's not even the artist. Like, when Savage said that,
Starting point is 00:04:59 that Dico could play his music, right? And then you play his music and his record label. No, Nico Lull. Oh, Nico. Okay, yeah, yeah. But then his record label comes in and is like, no.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Right. I want that. Yeah, yeah. Some of its algorithms, too. Like, I do a lot of reaction videos. I just don't. There was literally some clip,
Starting point is 00:05:17 like somebody was playing with a can of beans, and there was like a little tune in the background, and I got hit with a content ID from like bean time or some shit. I disputed it, and they immediately just resolved it. And they were like, okay, never mind. Because it was definitely like an hour.
Starting point is 00:05:29 algorithm that came in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't. I mean, I understand because they want to make money, but I don't understand why they wouldn't want, you know, however many people are in your stream. It's literally free advertisement. Yeah, it's the same thing with the people that upload your videos, right?
Starting point is 00:05:44 The same people that rip your stream clips that are making money off of you. All they're doing is they just go. And the only job that they're doing is ripping your stuff and uploading it to YouTube. And getting paid for that. For something that you did on your own channel, and you don't get a single piece of that. I mean, now obviously, and they're quick with it too.
Starting point is 00:06:03 There'll be an hour after scrims, then. You know, it's quick with it. Our screams are to be up. Optic Chicago is Twitter. Yeah, we're super quick with that. Clip, bang. Uploading an hour late.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I will tell you this, though. That's the same thing that's happening here is going to go away. Like now more and more people or MCNs are offering the ability to claim that. So continue uploading the stuff because we're going to monetize that
Starting point is 00:06:28 and you're going to. So do they have to pay you? You could sue them for it, yeah. So say someone's made $100,000 on my videos. Oh, yeah. You could sue them? Yes. And get that money.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah, it's your money. It's your content. Yeah. As long as they'll... There's companies who go out and do that right now. You can hire, like, Jukin Media is like the one that they represent a ton of YouTubers. I mean, I would never do that. Maybe you would.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I don't know. Well, I'll tell you what, though. Like, I understand. Well, if I warn someone and then they kept doing it, then I might, but I would never do it like just out of, you know, out of thin air. Yeah, I just like, you're fucked, you're fucked. I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:07:07 But at least monetize their stuff because it's your stuff. Yeah. No, it's not, it's not morally right, but people got to make money. So I get it. But I do. For the longest time before that was a thing, I would want to, I wanted to open up the Optic Archive
Starting point is 00:07:22 YouTube channel and then anything that was uploaded, I would go and rip it from them because they already did the, you know, Yeah, so I would upload it to see to see if and I would delete their watermark Because they're watermarking content that isn't even fucking there I mean they do a good job Whatever whatever whatever point is that I wanted to go in there put my watermark on top of there is to see if they said something It's like yo that's my work Huh? Time out what you're fun?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Who's work? Yeah, yeah, yeah They do a good job like there's some dope videos out there that I've seen of like montages See montages I fuck way yeah or like like that's the thing when when he was on his up when he was on his like Up swing. Yeah, the 2018 thing. People would just rip his whole vods and they would get like 1.3 million views on it. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:04 $6,000. Ridiculous. Right. And he was, and he finally started cracking down on it. He's like, you can't just do that. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:08:12 But he was like, if you have like, that's how, what's that guy? The dude who makes all those like meamy, uh, oh my God. YouTuber?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, he makes like montages of different moments of, uh, Fortnite moments, war zone moments. I don't really watch YouTube. I know there's a college, a moment's,
Starting point is 00:08:28 one now. Oh, really? I don't know if it's the same guy, but... But I feel like it is. I have one question. Is someone taking our content all any of us? Is that the same as us playing music on stream? Yes. Pretty much. You think so? Actually, not that much.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, I don't think it's the same. It's sort of the same. Well, one, it's like, it's like a half and half thing, right? You're creating a piece of content and then in the background... If you repurpose it. Yeah. Like, they're literally just ripping. Yeah, they're ripping it. Like, I understand like new sources and all these people that take a clip and then they talk about it. I get that
Starting point is 00:09:02 like no issue there. It is the people that upload the entire thing, right? You're at Optic Chicago versus 100 Thieves. Most epic. It depends. Why are people watching? Are they watching because it's you on Twitch or are they watching because you're playing Drake in the background? Some dude No one's watching because you're playing Drake in the background. Some
Starting point is 00:09:20 dude even had a channel called the Green Wall channel right? And then he would upload stuff and then this dude would have the fucking audacity to stream his own shit right so he'd be getting like 100,000 views or whatever and then he was to mix in his own yeah his own thing
Starting point is 00:09:34 like trying to build a base for his own channel and then they'll change their name or something and try to repurpose it yeah so I see like accounts to do it all the time I'll be following like a dog account or a cat account like just post cute pictures of cats and dogs and like I swear I did not follow you they'll just switch up and next thing
Starting point is 00:09:49 you know it's boobies everywhere wow I don't know I'm just saying I like it people switch up Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I'm with it, man. Speaking up. Next topic.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah, next topic. Routers to reverse. This is something that I've wanted to talk about. Good, because we put it up there specifically for you, and that's why I'm bringing it up. Apparently, and I just, I know very minimal about this, and I don't even know how it would work, but people are using routers to reverse boost.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So they're no longer. I have one of these routers. Okay, go on. Yeah, keyboard. So it's, it's just literally, it's a router. You log in like a normal router and there's a map and it has like a circle going around from like where you're at and you can change the radius so you can play people in the EU Just in the US just in your state. Yeah just in like the Midwest so you whatever you want So you're basically skipping over skill base. So what so how do you reverse boost that? How do you like get a different skill base?
Starting point is 00:10:47 I don't know I've played a decent amount of war zone tourneys in my time and You can really really tell because like obviously there's play players that are very, very good at Warzone and just at games in general. And you will just get bot lobbies against them consistently. I'm not going to say any names. We don't like to be called bots. I'm not going to say any names. But there's players that, like, you would play in a Warzone tournament and you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:11:14 okay, it's probably going to be sweaty as hell. I mean, you could probably attest to you. You've played some Warzone attorneys. I mean, Davis, you've played Warson attorneys. I have. I mean, you get into lobbies with like, and this is in like the 2V2 format where you're kill racing people. His name's Grub Bay.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Sorry. And you just get the most weird lobbies, but it's consistent against those same people every time. I was like, you know, people run up a 60-kill game, and I'm like, this is going to be a sweaty lobby. We should probably play slow. And then they'll just get, like, absolute hamsters on the sticks. And the thing is, too, I think the only way you could probably tell if they're doing it is if the lobbies take longer to load because you're only getting a player base from a certain area. And as much as I love Warzone, and I would love for it to be. competitive, it's just, it's just not, it's not a competitive. Like, the tournaments are
Starting point is 00:12:02 competitive because everyone in the tournament's really, really good, but it's just there's so much left to chance and unpredictability. It's literally R&G. It's like 80%. It's probably the least RNG battle royale though, because of the buyback system. Yes. Yeah, I agree with that. That makes, and your load out drop. Yeah, and your load out. But it's just, it's what makes war zone better than all the other BRs, to be honest. I don't know. In general, I agree with you, but I don't agree. I don't agree in like a competitive sense.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And in competitive sense, like, you could get what, because you can't be in the same lobby. Yeah. So it's like if, yeah, those tournaments are like the three hour, like the three hour, like the five games are so whack. They're not competitive at all. Like, no, yeah, it's super chance.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It's literally, are you getting good lobbies? Are you getting stream sniped? I mean, that happens at the kill races too, but. Oh, in the kill, I mean, there are so. many ways to be scumbags in those kill races like you see people drop 150 and you're like how
Starting point is 00:13:01 and then you realize one dude who averages like this isn't a shot to anybody but what who averages on his actual content 11 kills a game is dropping 22 a game what's your average? What's your average? Like 10 my average is literally 5 13 I think mine is
Starting point is 00:13:19 13 yeah that's something that's double mine but I just don't as much I love war zone so I don't like want people to think I don't love war zone and want it to succeed and I mean I have a lot of good friends in the field yeah I mean but those tournaments man I mean so explain the router the guy it's geo it's geo you can geo locate certain servers that you want to play on but what does it matter because there's
Starting point is 00:13:45 certain servers remember so I was playing a tournament with Max Holloway Huskers and Symphony and they wouldn't let Max host because they thought he was in Hawaii. I think he was in like California at the time. But they wouldn't let Max host because he was in Hawaii and they said that the Hawaii servers were literally like an advantage because for some reason, I don't know why. But Bob Lobby's name. Yeah. So they were like saying you can't play on Max's host. The player base in California, Texas and the East Coast is like it's larger concentrated on the better players. So you just stay away from like the big cities. Yeah. And you live in South Dakota and you were literally like,
Starting point is 00:14:24 playing like solos just making content. I do the geolocation thing, make it only South Dakota and North Dakota, wherever. You probably play bots the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. I just, it's just, there's so many layers of RNG and there's so many loopholes and ways you can work the system.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But I say it's free game. As long as it's not in tournament, but I don't think tournament should exist. I mean, if people... Like that. I think tournament should only be two v-toes and you're in the same way. I think that as well. I don't think there should be any three-hour,
Starting point is 00:14:53 four-hour best five game. like windows. I don't think that should be a thing. I think there is a way for this specific battle royale to work, but it needs a lot of tweaking. And that's just coming from somebody that's like, I want to throw a tournament where it's a two-hour kill race
Starting point is 00:15:10 and it's fours and it's fours and I want to promote it by saying just be as scumbag as possible. Reverse boosts beforehand. Use your sister's account. Like I want to see them drop 300 kills again. That's the thing. That's the thing with skill base as well. It's like especially with skill-based layered on top of that, that just adds another loophole.
Starting point is 00:15:29 That's the whole point. Could there not be a thing, though? Like, why don't tournament organizer say, all right, for this thing, you have to start with a brand-new clan tag and then come in here? Isn't that how a brand-new account? Isn't that how it works?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Well, the accounts, you have to rank up your guns, so nobody would have guns. Yeah, but that's part of the thing. You land with you land. It would be as fun to watch. I mean, I've seen, I've seen reverse boosting for a while. while, you know, like, it's, it's, it's always been like a thing, I feel like, this year's the first year, it's like, like, people are actually being like, yeah, I reverse. Like, I mean, and it's
Starting point is 00:16:04 fair game, but it's also like, it's, it used to be, like, frowned upon. Now it's, like, common ground to reverse boosts just because reverse boosting, don't, like, I posted a Twitter clip of reverse boosting, people loved it. Yeah. And I was just trolling. Like, I, and that was during the beta, but. I think it's because everyone equally hates skill-based matchmaking now. So everybody's banding together. And yeah, and they just, yeah, skill-based. and reverse boosting is now like I mean reverse boost lobbies are 30 times worse
Starting point is 00:16:31 than regular not skill base matchmaking cod lobbies I just wish people like you can tell right away right like if you if you went into a cod for Black Ups 2 or a MonoWher 2 lobby it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:16:45 everyone on the map is horrible like there were some good people there were some nob tubers there were some There were some people like one or two people On the other team you're like that guy could probably kill me Right, right. Jump on me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But if you reverse boost for six games straight, go into a lobby in this game, you're going to drop, like, it's going to be hard for you to die because you're only playing three-year-olds. I've seen videos of people, like, running around and, like, literally shooting at the ground next to, like, three people,
Starting point is 00:17:15 and then none of them, like, react. It's actually insane. In, like, checkmate, like, in the plane. Yeah, that's the one that I saw. It's actually insane. So it's like, I don't know And I mean
Starting point is 00:17:26 I've got I've personally Got a lot of flack For voicing My opinions about skill base So at the beginning I was very very adamant That I hated it
Starting point is 00:17:34 I still don't like it But then my Just my brain Kind of like segueed into It's in the game They're not going to change it It's obviously doing something For the company
Starting point is 00:17:45 Like Right There's no point in fighting something That you're not going to Make any progress on It's just going to Give you a headache It's gonna piss you all so I just accepted it and yeah and people still get mad that I've like back down
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like I've had like multiple videos made about me backing down first of all first I haven't even back down I'm like it but it's here it's not going anywhere so you guys what it's fucking deal with it The other thing is like for people to expect for you just because of who you are to be the loudest voice That's gonna you know David and Goliath the thing again activation like it's super unfair to you and sure like you're more on if you think that way I mean what am I gonna do exactly well I want you to be the spearhead of like the move yeah what am i go through the wall for you get hurt and then we'll fucking back i'm not the mocking jay like i think skill base isn't going anywhere so why the why fight it you're the front ridder of anything it should be for league play well i'll i tell
Starting point is 00:18:36 100% yeah yeah i'll tell you what league play should be a thing at the start of every cod okay i can't help on this second second second it should drop at the very very beginning of every cut but we won't talk about that i'm with it before we move on i do want to say the next week i'm to do some research and I'm going to read and watch the video that this dude did about the Activision filed a couple of what are they what are they called when you yeah trademarks and uh when you invent something patents for some sort of code within call of duty that like fixes it's like an algorithm yeah an algorithm that does like the skill based matchmaking and they've oh it's insane The things that I've seen people report on, it goes to, like, movement.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. It goes to so many, like, bizarre, I mean, score for a minute, obviously kill death. But it goes down to movement, like. How many buttons you're clicking in and stuff? Yeah. And the guns that you use. Apparently the guns that you use. Say a lot about you.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. Like, if you drop into a war zone game and you choose your Mac 10 kilo class, I don't know what the is now, Mac 10 kilo class, you're more likely to play against other people that are using back 10 kilos. So if you drop in, grab like an LMG and AK. Uh-huh. And you're, I mean, you're more likely to find bots that way. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And if they're, if they're getting patents for this stuff, like, it's not going anywhere. Right. Of course. Obviously, it's doing something positive for them. So it's not going to. Like I said, let me, let me do a research. No reason to find it. Let me do a little bit more research so we can be more informed on what it is exactly we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah. Uh, but let's move on to the next topic, which is Tifu getting swat and. on stream. Did he really? Yeah. I didn't see the clip. I did, I did see it. I saw it.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Apparently he didn't even react. He was like cool with it or something. Yeah, he just got up and said he had his hands up and walked out. I mean, yeah, as long as he handled him in with the guns drawn. They didn't come into his room. They closed him out. I mean, swatting is just such a fucking weird, weird thing. Especially because somebody has already died, especially because the guy that got caught, got 25 years in fucking jail.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And people still do. And people are still risking it all. And I mean, they're risking it all. Like, look, man, if you want to be a fuck up and go to jail, do that shit. But when you put other people in danger, that's like fucked up. When you're at home and it's nighttime and you are a family man or you are the eldest of your family and you hear somebody coming in, your first instinct is going to be to protect your house. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But if you don't know that the intruder that you think is an intruder are actually cops there to. fix a situation. And also, how would you know? You have your headset on? Exactly. You have no, like, idea until you take your headset off and, like. And all it takes is you running out of your office, like, aggressive or some shit, not knowing and don't put you down.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. Bro, I got, I got, I got dogs. Okay. I got Henry. You know what I mean? Like, this is, like, I have a, I have protocols in my house as to how things happen if the police are at the door. First of all, Jude takes the dogs into the back. back room locks them up right and then we we as humans address the situation but even that
Starting point is 00:21:54 movement right there where jude is like running away to the back room cops don't know what the fuck you're doing right yeah but these are the the protocols that that we have in our house just in case especially with like the people call in that you like killed someone or you have someone you have someone hostage or you have a you know bomb in your house whatever they literally call in the most yeah it's ridiculous it's it's horror i can't believe it's still i can't believe it's still happening it's not as bad as it used to be no it's not as bad as you're you got to wonder how many bomb threats and stuff like that happened during i don't know the last decade well how many of that happens in like traditional sports and like what is their protocol
Starting point is 00:22:35 because you know there's a sniper at every super bowl right really there's a there's a several several snipers so it's like good it's like if those are the protocol for for traditional sports like Of course we had to go through that growing pain. Like, what was it? 2013, 2014. We got bumped-threaded every event, every single event. I mean, one event, we literally, like, the whole day got shut down. That was 2016.
Starting point is 00:23:02 That was in Dallas. That was here. That was here. That was here. That show, dude, that show. Literally the whole day. We were about to go. We were in our match. And then our whole match got canceled.
Starting point is 00:23:14 We were up 1-0, I think. And then the whole day got canceled afterwards. I guess shout out to Ible G at that. time. They finished in time. Because, well, I'm saying, like, after that event, they, like, I think they overhauled all their security. Well, we do.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So when we moved here, like, the first thing that I did is I scheduled the meeting with the sheriff and, uh, sergeant here in Frisco. Yeah. And I told them like, this is who we are. This is what happens on the internet. If here are two numbers that you call first and if nobody picks up there than this. Yeah. Um, and you know, you, and here's, here's our addresses, all of them.
Starting point is 00:23:46 If there's a bomb through call to this thing, please read this first. Please send an email out to all your officers This needs to be done You did that up a Calpin too I did that at McAlpin Because I never I never experienced it Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:57 Obviously all you guys did Yeah so I mean I ran up to my room But the fact I was like fuck this We saw the cartoon We saw it I was like hell to the nah I said someone else answer the door
Starting point is 00:24:10 Fucking come get me You saw the cops first And then you ran upstairs Well no because me and Cap were in the living room And they were shining lights And through the back window Like through the white ass curtain they were like you could see the lights like shining through it and I was like
Starting point is 00:24:21 yo cap there's there's kids outside or I said something like there he said it I don't remember yeah and I ran upstairs I was like fuck this I'm not dealing with this but think about what just happened there if so if you said hey there's kids outside I'm going outside yeah you know what I'm gonna go see what's up you're gonna be like who the fuck and then bow that heck yeah it's fucking scary dude dude I mean nowadays with my house I'd probably be curious and go check it out but back then I mean I have cameras everywhere. You have cameras everywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:51 You know what I mean? I guess it's easier because you can just check. Yeah. I'd be like, oh, the cops take the dogs over there. Because, bro, imagine, man,
Starting point is 00:24:56 like you open the door and my dogs bark at, you know, one of them barks at everything. So everybody else gets like that. There's going to be like, it's easier to fucking put a bullet in a dog because it's a dog, right?
Starting point is 00:25:07 To another human, that dog may not necessarily mean much, but to me, who's a fucking family man or my son. Not big buzz. Fuck that. Oh, I'd be, I'd be crushed.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Oh, I would stop at nothing to find out who it was. And then I would stop at nothing. John McShure. Yeah. Worse. Because I'm more skilled. Shout out. Shout out ring doorbell. You can talk through your talk through your doorbell if you get a ring.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yes. I mean, no ad. No hashtag ad. No hashtag ad. But we are looking. So if you guys are interested, please let me know. Movies. Skipping theater and going to directly to in-house release. Why is everybody complaining about did you watch Wonder Woman? Yeah. Is it that bad? It is the worst movie. Really? We turned it off after an hour.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Bro, it is bad. The first one was so good. I agree. Chris Pine. I mean, you're kidding me? I don't know what it was. Like, even the beginning, I'm not going to ruin the movie for it. You know what?
Starting point is 00:25:59 I actually listen. I'm not going to watch it. I'm about to ruin this fucking movie for everybody. Okay. So to do you a favor, first of all. The beginning, fine. The second they get into this mall action, I'm like, that makes no sense. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:14 It starts where it makes no sense. Even as an intro, it makes no sense. And then later on in the movie, guess what? It doesn't make any sense. And then guess what? Outro? 20 minutes. Of just talking.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Of just talking. There was like no action. And she's like, you guys need nothing else. You guys have it within you to become the greatest you've ever been. And you should stop the bad things that are happening right now. Just think about it. Just think about it and repent or some shit. That is the fucking outro.
Starting point is 00:26:46 There's no fighting. There's no. Whimp and shit. There's no like, you know. The first one was good. Yes. Really good. Really good.
Starting point is 00:26:52 But this one was not. The problem with this. Do you think it's because of COVID that it kind of lacked? No. You know. Because you, because somebody said that and I said this, you can write from your quarantine. That movie was more about how bad the writing and the storyline was than the effects. Yeah, it sucked.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It was so, like I saw it. I saw a mile away what was happening. Like the story was just scattered. Oh, my gosh. God, it is the fucking absolute worst. Brian Miggles from Sledgehammer. I saw you tweet, man. He said, you guys have to put it into context.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And this, that and the other night, that's my boy. So I'm like, I know. La Malle on my ass off. No, you did not. You know what I mean? It was the best. Now, the problem that I have with this is that people were attributing that movie being released on HBO Max on theaters and at home at the same time.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Same because the movie was that bad. I think that releasing the movie in theater for those who want to go to theater, should be a thing and double the price for those who want to see it on the release date at home. That's, I like that.
Starting point is 00:27:54 That makes sense. Yeah, you know what? Because you're going to spend 40 bucks no matter what, right? You're going to spend $40 on a bar of candy or whatever, a chocolate bar.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I like the strategy. I like being able to have movies released at the same time that they're released in theaters. If I want to go experience the theater or if I want to have go, like, go do that, then I'm going to go do that, right?
Starting point is 00:28:15 But paying an extra amount of money, I mean, I'm surprised it hasn't always been like that. So am I. Why would you just release a release on the day they came out in theaters? That's what I'm saying. I can't believe that they didn't release it digitally the same day that it was released in theaters because. Do you think what's the business?
Starting point is 00:28:32 What do you think the businesses by the like? I don't know. The brick and mortar. Yeah, maybe the theaters. Yeah. Yeah. The brick and mortar. Times are changing.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So now it's like becoming more. Right. I mean, Bitcoin just said 20. They caught a lot of flack. A lot of flack about doing doing the. 27,000 Bitcoin? 27K?
Starting point is 00:28:50 I mean, it did it hit 28K. What did Bitcoin did? Yeah, and Elon Musk was talking about it. It's getting a lot of like, I mean, I was just kind of like branching off of times are changing. Now Bitcoin's actually becoming, Wayne chain, though. Wayne chain? It's a long-term investment.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Look, I just hold it. There's obviously going to be a place for Bitcoin and, you know, that whole, the whole technology. But it's, you know, it's, you know. know it's a new age and I mean now with obviously COVID I mean it makes sense that they are releasing digitally I just can't believe that it wasn't I mean I mean think about like all you make so much more money yeah I mean if you charge more yeah I don't know going to the theater rooms you're going to spend like the theater movies you're going to spend 20 bucks weird flex what's so used to say theater room going to the theater room no no go to the movie
Starting point is 00:29:46 theaters yeah yeah not the theater going to the theater going to the theater the movie theaters, you're going to drop like 50, 60 if you're on a date, period. All right. That's the sign that's like 30 minutes. See, but I look at it, you never see movie magic. Either way. How much you,
Starting point is 00:30:02 how much you spend in theaters? If you're on a day, I got an eye pick. Five forty bucks for two people. Popcorn, drinks, drinks, is there an I pick here? Where is that? Is it Fairview? I think it's Fairview. Yeah. It's like East,
Starting point is 00:30:16 East. Yeah, I forgot about I pick. Yeah. You miss it, bro, I miss it. I miss it. You know what's crazy is? I never eat. I pick a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I never eat chicken tenders, but you better believe that every single time I was in that two orders the chicken tender. I was getting drunk like during movies and stuff. Oh, hell of you. So make it a double. All the blankets. Those are the ones you can order like full meals. Full meals, drinks.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And I would. They bring it to you. You all have me. During the movie. You can call them like an airplane. Call them like an airplane. What? Like an airplane attendant.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You can just, Ding they come and they'll turn the light on for you get you drink You go there and spend it way more and they'll be like oh yeah you run up a bill there's like do you want to have a bitch Yeah I can't believe that it wasn't always digitally released It should be but I'm glad it is because I prefer watching it at home especially with I mean The current climate of the world I mean yeah I don't trust movie theaters I don't trust anywhere where there's not a bad time to tell you how to the movies no no no you can go to the movies
Starting point is 00:31:18 I just don't trust anywhere where there's not an exit like insight oh you're talking about that I think you're like this yeah no I just don't trust movies I think you were talking about the shooting that happened a long time ago during the
Starting point is 00:31:31 oh no that I mean that is what he's talking about yeah it's part part of the reason why I just don't trust I mean it's not trusting movie theaters I just don't trust people I bet because I'll take it's one one bad egg and you're trapped in a room so I saw that Tom Higgs
Starting point is 00:31:46 movie. Which one? Christmas Day. Oh, wait. They came out on Netflix as well, right? Netflix and movie theater? Yeah. The current or the news of the world, I think?
Starting point is 00:31:57 No. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's like, it's a good, like, Tom Hanks. You know what I was thinking about? George Clooney's movie that just came out on Netflix. Anyway, last week, speaking of movies, last week, we talked about you guys watching a couple of movies and people were, you know, I'm like, yo, guys,
Starting point is 00:32:16 please leave X amount of likes for these guys to, you know, to watch the movie. People love, like, people loved people. I mean, it was a really good movie. I mean, we're talking about Snatch. Yeah, we're talking about Snatch. I watched it. People were in the stream the next day, like, yo, did you watch Snatch? What did you think of it?
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's a pretty good movie. It was a pretty good movie. I love, like, London. Brad Pitt's like the best actor ever. I'm going to watch it tonight. Oh, yeah. He's incredible. I mean, as soon as he's seen it, but it's been years.
Starting point is 00:32:43 What the fuck to talk about him? I'm a kind of remember. As soon as he started talking, I was like, I was like, I was. like, are you serious? That's fucking like, bro, you know what's fucked up? No bullshit. I don't know what happened. I don't know who's listening.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I don't know what happened. But I turned on my TV yesterday and there was an interview with Guy Ritchie. Same. Dude. Yes. I watched Snatch on the plane. Yeah. So it wasn't on my phone.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Nothing. When I got back, when I got back, that guy Ritchie interview was like 25 minutes. Yeah. Talk about. Yeah. That was the first requested video. Yeah. They're watching.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And I was like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I watched it. Yeah. We've realized that we, like, when we talk about something, like, we talk about Waterberger sometimes and, like, just other things. And you'll just get hit with an ad, like, of something you've been talking about. Yeah. It's like so weird.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Bro, Alexa is everywhere. Yeah, there. It's so weird. I'm like, it's so strange. Like, we'll be talking about something. And then 10 minutes later, like, first ad that pops up, boom. And I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's, it's, it could be coincidence.
Starting point is 00:33:45 All right. So, anyway, you. watched that you liked it loved it okay as good as a gentleman better than the gentleman uh i'd say they're about the same okay i loved it i love mcconier so wall guys you've never seen the gentleman is that a guy richie thing yeah yeah you got to watch the gentleman it is fucking incredible it's guy richie isn't it yeah mccaneh isn't that right yeah mccaneh that was my first it's incredible no didn't i show you wait what was your first guy rich you fell so that okay listen you got to watch the gentleman it is it he should be taken to jail for being this
Starting point is 00:34:14 goddamn good a storytelling the gentleman will show you one in the in the in the in the in the in the in the in the in the in the intro but within the first 10 minutes it'll show he just flexes his deliver bro watch that okay but now I will say this when I told when I told what's that oh that guy richie
Starting point is 00:34:30 good yeah he walks into a room his dick's already been in there for two minutes his what all right at the at the at the at the optic house I told I told big timer and nature to watch those movies one of the movies that I told them to watch was
Starting point is 00:34:46 revolver. And I said, when you watch Revolver, when you don't watch Revolver, your brain is going to be fucked for at least two hours. Was it? I think you said, I still haven't seen that. To watch it high.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And I, yeah. Yes, my brain is. No, I'm telling you, but it is, it's another guy, Ritchie movie. So, like, he's got a lot of movies, but the ones that are, like, the independent ones,
Starting point is 00:35:14 like obviously, Sherlock Holmes, incredible. Hmm? Bacon McChickey? Bacon McChickey? You grew up? Biggie McChickey. Anyway, the five, it's Revolver, which is like really good.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Lockstock and two smoking barrels, which is what to set the whole thing off. He got paid $8,000. Guy Ritchie got paid $8,000, $8,000, $8,000 to direct lockstock and two smoking barrels. I've never seen that one. That's it. Oh, that's why he kept saying lock. Yeah, lock. Yeah, yeah, locks.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah, lockstocks. 8K? Yeah. And he said he doesn't. Is that a lot? And he may have not got paid. So Locksock and Two Smokker Burroughs is like 1989. For producing a movie?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah. Guy Ritchie. I didn't see it. Anyway, Locksock and Two Smoker Burroughs like set it off. And what's crazy about that is that I watch Snatch first and then I watch Lockstock. And at the time I'm like, yeah, Lockstock is better. But eventually after watching them millions of times, it's Snatch, the gentleman, rock and rolla, revolver, and then Lockstock and two smoking barrels. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Lockstock is number three. and then a rock and rolla and then revolver so those are all guy richie films if you're gonna watch the next one you should watch and the next one that you should watch watch snatch rock and rolla the gentleman I'll watch it tonight so guy richie's like
Starting point is 00:36:29 that's your favorite your go-to oh yeah he's my favorite movie it's actually crazy how you know they have a distinct way of doing and his is very distinct like he I mean like when you were doing vision you had a very distinct way of putting things
Starting point is 00:36:45 together and piecing it together like it's actually crazy that people do that with movies and you know the dude who leave their mark on it it's kind of crazy I don't even know his name but the guy who makes the big short and the what he did after that with the the uh the like uh who's in the Hollywood Hollywood Hollywood stuff the big shorts my favorite movie ever really yeah it's dude I don't really remember it but that that that whoever that guy is I don't know but he always goes to like breaking the fourth wall Yeah, when they look over Yeah, I love that
Starting point is 00:37:18 I was at dinner with fucking Rob Turcla and Matt Kendrick last night We were talking about the big short And then And then I don't know if they can hear it Through the microphone If you guys hear something Starting a chainsaw?
Starting point is 00:37:35 They're fixing the electricity Texas chainsaw on this Anyway, no dude Rob says to me he's like What's the guy's name? The guy that plays Batman? What's his name? Yeah, Christian Bill.
Starting point is 00:37:46 He's like, bro, he's like, Christian Bill did such an amazing job. The shit that he was doing with his eye was crazy. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, you know that was a fake. You can't. He was like, he was such a good actor. And I'm like, oh, uh, we were drinking, right? And I was like, I don't know if he meant to say that or he came out the wrong where I just made a big deal on or nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Like, so usually do. But he's like, the shit he was doing with his eye is crazy. I'm like, he wasn't purposely like fucking sending his eye, you know, to go do something. Like that's crazy. All right. I guess the last one is the favorite. This is the last podcast, the last Optic podcast of the year. I like doing podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:22 It is, right? What is, uh, top three favorite moments of 2020 for you? I guess. COVID, uh, quarantine. I guess London, we played in London, even though they kicked this year. Yeah, that was this year. That's nuts. So crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Them kicking us off the stage. Yeah. Beating Optic in champs. And then... That was 2020? That's what I'm saying. London is even crazier than that. I mean, that happened, what, three months, well, probably five months ago now, but...
Starting point is 00:38:53 Wait, London? No, beating up they could change. Oh. Oh, yeah. That was five months ago. That is nuts. How crazy is that? The off season flew by.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Bro, the off season, they got a less than the off season, man. Yeah. It's actually insane. There should never be that big of a gap. We finish in April, we don't start till, I mean, blank, but that off season's crazy. It feels like we haven't competed. in it like a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:16 We were sent the other time too. Like there's got to be something for us to play. Oh, not April. August. Yeah. August. Yeah. But still August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April,
Starting point is 00:39:27 May, June, July. I'm not telling them where it is. But that's a lot of fucking off season. Dude. And it's just like way, way too much. We still have a month and a half. There's nothing for us pros to play. We still have a month and a half of just screaming until we actually play anything meaningful.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I don't know. It's hard. Like, that mentally is like exhausting. Yeah, but we're just screaming. for anything. That's the other thing. Like, I think that that needs to change, too,
Starting point is 00:39:49 because I know that driving hype for the league and these matchups and these things, like the fact, like, I think they'll be really dope idea. And I got this from Green Street, Green Street hooligans, one of my favorite movies ever.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Have you seen it? Yeah, with Frodo. Yeah. Frodo and Charlie Hunnam. Anyway, they do, they do the draft.
Starting point is 00:40:08 It's not a draft. It's a lottery where it's like bingo, ballstop. It's like, oh, the Optic Gaming logo, cool. He goes here,
Starting point is 00:40:15 group A, group B, group B, and then they go into it and they match up and they leave it up to luck. I think that's better than forcing Optic to play 100 thieves because 100 thieves just saying they want to be like, oh, Bubba Nature used to be an optic and blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, the storylines. Or to put phase against Empire. I mean, we played Dallas in our first match of the year. When? This year.
Starting point is 00:40:36 They did it on purpose. No, did we? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the way. Wait.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Land. And then optic right after. Right? Huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, land. So what did you say? So you say you three? I said two. I don't even know a third. All right. What about you? Three is too much.
Starting point is 00:40:56 This whole year sucked. Can't wait for next year. All right? I literally, I couldn't think. I've been trying to think in one since you asked that. He said three things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Dude, that's just all just. Optics back. What about you? Yeah. I'd say, um, hmm. When he said,
Starting point is 00:41:14 beating optic i'm like are you i thought you were talking about when you were in gen g because i'm already like in my brain that old that whole shit never never happened i would say getting optic back number one that's big it's by number one too just so we're me wrapping wrap in sweatshirt um i mean i probably say london and reunited with bruce no i love bruce but now he's nasty um i i'd probably say beating optic too i mean that was like the only like highlights of the year that's like all we did literally london i mean that optic wouldn't really get us anywhere but we also won uh big match we also won another online event what was that seattle seattle's seattle on yeah home series i mean that's not the same yeah all right like i said i i i'll preach it till the day i retire land
Starting point is 00:42:12 an online cod not the same not the same people fold do they really though because every single time somebody called somebody an online team like they would show up and still perform just as well
Starting point is 00:42:23 not all the time you can still perform good but like it's the consistency didn't you guys smoked all year online in MW3 and then you guys show
Starting point is 00:42:33 to land and whatever it's insane people just and that's what happened that's what I always say to my stream I say unless you've played on land you just don't know
Starting point is 00:42:42 so I can't even blame you for thinking like they're if they're beating you online people are like like, oh, they're better than you. Like, I can't blame them. That's all you know until you can't.
Starting point is 00:42:51 The difference. Yeah, they don't know the difference. It is such a small, like, minute difference. But at that level, it's not a small difference. It is a huge difference. It's like milliseconds. Everyone's on the same playing field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:03 No one's joking people. That's huge. Like the small differences. Oh, yeah. It makes a huge, huge, huge difference. And you see it. You can literally see it. You can feel it.
Starting point is 00:43:12 All right. We're going to end the podcast on a Christmas gift. from Warby Parker to my man Big Willie Johnson Oh I'm going to say Why did you hand me something
Starting point is 00:43:25 That's not open His Here's the thing What I'm about to give you Oh they make glasses Yeah Give me some glasses I did
Starting point is 00:43:34 But I get to keep those They go on the shelf Okay As like a Juvenier Yeah That's good Deal
Starting point is 00:43:40 All right so Big Timer has Whoa This is like four pairs Five. Five. No way. Wait,
Starting point is 00:43:47 it's the right prescription? It's the right prescription, right? No chance. Yeah? It's the right prescription. Oh, man. Yeah. Do people know the back story?
Starting point is 00:43:55 There's really no back story. I've had these glasses since like 2050. And they are scratched up beyond belief. I don't even know if the camera could pick up how fucked up they are. Probably not. Oh, they're all like different. Yeah, yeah. This is nice.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Anyway, this is what I needed. Were you? Yeah. You can still get them some. I tried some. I mean, no, no, no, just try that on your own time, but you are leaving those glasses as soon as you find the frames that you want. Anyway, that's what I do for this podcast, end of the year podcast. Certainly appreciate everybody that has been obviously supporting the squad forever and ever.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I appreciate all the likes. And I would like to ask one of you to please write down a topic that you guys will like us to discuss next week or next podcast. And I'll make sure that one of the guys in production. Not skill-based matchmaking and not league play. Anything else. Anything else. Anything in the world? I think we branched off a lot and did, we covered all the topics.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah, we did good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only thing we didn't discuss, obviously, is conspiracies, aliens, and I did about a two-hour podcast with a Lake Fork guy where all we did was talk about that. You're going to have to get Bicky McJakey for that. Baky McJakey, whatever that means. Baking McJakey. Ah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Anyway, thank you so much for tuning in. Remember to leave a like. Remember to share this podcast if you're watching or reading or listening to this on on any audio device, whether it's iTunes, Google Podcasts, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Just make sure to leave a rating on that as well. Thank you very much. We'll see you guys next week. Goodbye.

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