Otherworld - Episode 140: Ross Bay Cemetery

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

During her mother’s long battle with cancer, Sierra moved back to Victoria, BC to be closer to family. Living in the shadow of her mother’s passing, she couldn’t shake the feeling that the veil between worlds had grown thin. That eerie sense deepened one night when Sierra and her friend Marnie took a walk through their local cemetery and experienced something that should not have been possible. ⁠ ⁠Check out our Merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ For business inquiries contact: [e-mail] If you have experienced something paranormal or unexplained, email us your story at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. This episode is about a girl named Sierra. She's from Vancouver Island in Canada, which is already a rather spooky, gloomy sort of place. And on top of that, this story takes place during a very unusual time in her life. And I think that's a main reason why it resonated so much with me. Like many teenagers, Sierra was really excited to leave town and start her own life after graduating high school. But not long after moving, her mom's longtime battle with cancer took a turn for the worse. So Sierra had to move back and found herself right back where she started.

On top of that, she was back for an incredibly difficult reason. I think anyone who's been through something extremely hard, like facing a terminal illness or losing a loved one, knows that sometimes during that period, life can seem very surreal, almost like the veil has become very thin. And you often might end up asking yourself, are weird things genuinely happening to me more frequently right now?

or am I just kind of imagining things because of what I'm going through? Lots of strange things were happening to Sierra, as you're about to hear, especially one particular thing on a night when her and a friend decide to take a walk through a nearby cemetery. This episode is called Ross Bay Cemetery, and you're listening to Otherworld. Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science, you can't argue.

I'm worried about all of a sight. Open the sky. It's almost frustrating that it's happening. I'm literally, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. Everybody moves back into the light, even if it takes them a minute. My name's Sierra. I'm 27.

I currently live in Montreal, Canada, but I grew up in Victoria, B.C., Canada. For most of my childhood, kind of was between there and San Clemente, California. mostly Victoria. I'm like an artist, filmmaker, photographer, by hobby mostly, doing art shit in Montreal, like the rest of them. I moved to Victoria when I was like eight years old, so I was still like in elementary school. So like my memories of California, it's like, oh, it's super, we live close to the beach. San Clemente's like a small town for Orange County. And like pretty, I'm pretty, I'm just. idealic childhood down there, like always in the ocean and, you know, it's always warm, whatever.

I had my friends, a good group of friends. And then we moved to Canada, like halfway through the school year. And I remember we moved in with my grandma because my grandma was already living in Victoria. And starting school in the middle of the year where, like, I went from like lots of friends and shit to like being a total loner in the new school and then totally different vibe of like the landscape is so different. Usually most of the year is dark and cloudy, rainy,

just like a wet cold consistently for like most of the year other than like two summer months. So it was like a very harsh transition like of life to being like very sociable, you know, California baby to, like, loaner in the dark, dank P&W. Victoria is like a pretty small town. It's the capital of BC,

but it's like a way smaller than Vancouver. I think the population's like around 90K. Victoria's known as being like a historical town. It has like the oldest China town in the country. There's lore about the whole. whole city, like, of like, you know, like early, like 1800s through like the 30s. There's so many stories. It's just like a very historic town and that's why people like to visit it. But it is like, it does have such a colonial look and vibe to it, which I think people think is quaint. But it's very like

at odds with the landscape of like Vancouver Island and the Pacific Northwest I guess in general, which is just like a rugged coastline with like ancient forests that go on forever. It's like a really kind of rough, intense landscape and it's very like charged. Like the land itself is incredibly charged. There's crazy old growth forests where it's like the trees are just so big that you feel like you don't exist basically. That's what I actually love about it is it's the nature is so overwhelming that you just can disappear almost into the woods and there's so much energy in the forest and of the place that just overwhelms you. It's just crazy. Growing up spending doing all my schooling in

BC obviously I wasn't a total owner the whole time I made friends and stuff but I think by the time I graduated I was really, it just already felt really small and I was really over it and I wanted to get out of there as soon as possible. And since I still had some family in California, it was like an easy move for me to go down there and I started working down in L.A. for a year until my mom's health got worse. My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer when I was like 15. It was kind of like stable for a while. And then it wasn't until like a year after I moved back to California that it got worse. So then I moved back home to be closer to her and spend time with her. I mean, obviously, like, moving back under those circumstances wasn't great.

And I wasn't happy to be back, you know, in the small town again. But I kind of was like, you know what, like, I'm just going to make the most out of it. When I moved back to Victoria, I didn't want to move. back in with my family because I was trying to get out of that dynamic. So I found a couple friends and we found a house downtown. We had not much money, like no credit score, like nothing. So getting a house was not easy, especially in like that rental market there, which is insane. So we ended up renting a small two-bedroom heritage house. I think it was built. in like 1903

and it was had barely been redone. The wood floor was like black. It was old and very cold. Like you have to be right next to the space heater type of vibe.

So it was me and my friend Marnie who had like moved in originally. And then the house kind of had this like built on hallway at the very back. Someone added a little hallway with two little shack rooms. Grass would almost grow up through the floor.

And we had two other friends renting out these little shack rooms at the back to like afford the place because it was not, it was still not cheap, even though it was like in a state. The house was like right behind a McDonald's. So we would like hear the like drive-thru. taking orders like all the time at all night. And I feel like I should mention this house is like right off Pandora Street, which is kind of the center hub of like tent city and like where just all the unhouse people hang out basically. So the energy there, that part of town is already

so different than like your cute little tourist area. So for a lot of reasons this house was not the coziest place. I moved back to spend more time with my mom, obviously. I think when I moved back, it was stage four breast cancers. So being young and having a mom whose health is declining is incredibly sad because I was very, very close to my mom. Like, we had a great relationship, so it wasn't complicated in that way. But just like really heartbreaking and just, just, like, really heartbreaking. and just really hard to live with. So you can't be in the sadness every day. So you kind of like compartmentalize in your mind.

Like, okay, this is this worry and sadness, but I can't always engage with it. And then it just becomes like a part of life, I guess. But this like weird uncertainty always, you know, is just always there. And you're just like trying to go through your normal life and still make things happen, you know. And as much as like I was still having a fairly normal life, I think that intensity being a part of normal life affected how I perceived life in general.

The time was very charged. I think anybody who's experienced a loved one passing away, especially if it's like an extended period, death being a reality, a very close reality. in your life just affects how you perceive things. Life just feels very different when you're that close to death. Everything is just like a bit more odd and uncanny things happen that you're like, this is not normal, like what's happening, and you kind of just have to roll with it. You're just more open. You're so vulnerable and raw and close to this like unfathomable thing which is death, that it's like you don't feel like you are in control of your reality.

So you're more open to other things, maybe like more strange things happening or that you see stuff like that usually you wouldn't see or you wouldn't believe. And just like the most bizarre things, I think, are able to like enter your space and you're able to perceive them because you're just so raw and like cracked open. And during this time, weird stuff would happen. For example, I worked at a cafe, like down the street, and this woman was showing up to the cafe, like, all the time. Old, old lady, like hunched over type old.

She would never buy anything. She just wanted to, like, be there. And then she started knocking on our door of our house. And I think the first time I wasn't home, and my roommates were like, she's not home. what are you doing? And she just left. And then eventually we had like an art show at our house where it was like open door. And she came to the show, walked through the house or whatever, and then left. And then at this point, I was like noticing her like outside my work and stuff.

And I was like, oh, this is getting like a little bit weird. And then a couple weeks go by or whatever, I answer another knock on the door, I answer it and it's her. And I'm like, why are you following me or like why are you here? She didn't really have anything to say. So I was like, okay, do you want to come have tea? And like we can chat because this is really weird. And so she came in and we sat and had tea. And she was just like grilling me on my life and asking me so many personal questions.

And I was like, oh, this is weird. and she's asking me if I did magic. And I was like, no, I don't do magic. Like, that's a really weird question. And then so I was trying to get in there and ask her, like, what's your life? Like, why are you in my house right now? And she had been on the streets for like 30 years or something. And it took me asking her so much to get to the bottom of it.

But it turns out that I guess, I looked a lot like her daughter who had passed away. Something about me, like she really like glommed onto for that reason. And then after we had that conversation and tea and whatever, then I just never saw her again. Just like stuff like that was kind of happening all the time. And I think when you're so open to weirdness and the veil is thin, then that type of stuff just happens more often.

That's so crazy, by the way. I can't believe you let her in. That's on you. I was like she's old. I don't know. It was creepy, but I was like, what's she going to do? She didn't seem like violent. So I was like, I got to just find out why she's been following me

because it was just so weird. So that time was full of little weird things happening, but nothing that I would like consider to be like supernatural or something that really was just too weird until it kind of like, I guess like culminated on this one night where it was like the most intense supernatural thing that I've ever experienced. The day that this happened was just like a very average day. Like I don't remember exactly what I did, but it was probably just like went to work,

came home, like made dinner, chilled with my friends. And, like, at that time, we'd usually, like, hang out and stay up pretty late, like, just talking and whatever. So, around 10 p.m., me and my friend Marnie, were just hanging out at the house, and then we kind of decided, why don't we go for a walk? Because you could walk from our house to the beach in, like, 35, 40 minutes. Victoria is like surrounded by the ocean and beaches. So it's easy to get to the beach and it's really beautiful. So we decided to go for a walk. We were chatting a lot about this like photography project idea that we had

that we were really hyped on. We're in like a good mood, normal night for us. We walk through town, we get to the beach. It's like a quiet, beautiful, clear, warm night. We're walking along like a beautiful bluff with like the moon out over the ocean. It's like incredibly pretty. And we're so engulfed in this conversation that we were having. And we were both really excited about this idea.

So, I mean, we're in a beautiful place. We're taking that in. But we were more so focused on like our conversation, I guess. And so we're just like walking along chatting. There might have been a few other people out and about, but like there's not a lot of people. It's like very quiet and like peaceful. We are like, it's like really nice out, beautiful, clear, warm nights. So we're like, well, let's just keep walking.

Because you can, there's like a path that runs along the beach. And then it goes out to like a point. And then if you keep going, then there's a graveyard. And it's a beautiful graveyard right on the ocean. And like there's, it's full of like, like, like tall trees. It's just like this little mini secluded place in the city. It's a place where we would go often to just like have picnics,

chill because it was just very peaceful and beautiful there. And been there like hundreds of times probably. And even at night, never a bad vibe. Like we were never going there looking for anything spooky, but also like nothing spooky ever happened. So it was like a peaceful. kind of like escape spot for us, I guess. So that night we decided, well, why don't we just keep walking along the beach and go

sit in the cemetery? Because you can literally sit in the cemetery and look out at the moon and the ocean. It's like so beautiful. And so we get to the cemetery and it's probably like just after midnight at that point. We walk into the cemetery. We walk to the end. almost of the cemetery, like the farther end from town. And there's like a railing that separates the cemetery from like a little embankment that goes down to the beach. There's like a fence that you

could sit on if you wanted, but we're kind of just like leaning on the fence looking out at the ocean. And you're kind of looking out at the ocean through a few branches. And so we're like looking out at the water, appreciating how nice it is, and just, like, really enthusiastic about, like, developing this idea. I start to hear, like, a rustling sound, like, something in leaves moving around. And this graveyard, like, has a huge deer population that just live in the graveyard because they've been pushed out of everywhere else in town. And there's also, like, there's squirrels, raccoons, there's actually a lot of wildlife in this graveyard. So I'm hearing this and I'm looking to be like, is there a deer right near us? Or like, is it a squirrel or whatever? Like,

I was like not afraid of this sound, I guess. I was just like wanting to know like what's making the sound. Like what is, where is it coming from? Like, where's the animal type thing? Like not scared. I keep hearing it. And it was weird because I was hearing it, but I couldn't like decipher what direction it was coming from. It was just like I could hear wrestling. And I couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Tomorrow I'm like, do you hear that? And she's like, yeah, whatever. It's probably like a deer or whatever. So I'm like, and she's not really giving a shit about that. We're like talking about our idea. So I'm kind of going in between like being like, okay, whatever, talking about the idea, and then hearing it again and being like,

what is that? And like, it increasingly was starting to really piss me off. And I don't know why. Like, usually I wouldn't be like irritated by that type of thing. I was just getting so, like, mad about not being able to find the source of the sound. Increasingly, it was taking me out of like the conversation that we were having because I was just getting like so pissed. I was like, what is this sound? And then it kind of just repeated for like 10, 15 times where I was like looking around me being like, what is making the sound, not finding the source of it,

looking back out and just getting increasingly annoyed by like this sound happening. Okay, we have to take a quick break, but we'll be right back with the rest of the story. I'm like on edge now and like annoyed, but I'm not scared. I'm just, I hear the sound again, and I like whip around because I'm like, what is it? Like, I need to see what the, like, what is this?

And I whip around again for like the 20th time. And like immediately I see this thing in front of a grave that's like eight to 10 feet away moving towards me. It was a creature that was. the size of a human, but it's not a human being. It wasn't an animal. It was like something else that I couldn't tell you what it is, but it wasn't, it was inhuman. It was completely emaciated.

All gray skin pulled like tightly over its bones. and hunched over, I could see its spine. Like I was looking at it long enough to like see its spine. It's like ribs. And it had these like disgusting long arms, arms that were way too big for the rest of it. And it was like dragging its arms like behind itself on the ground. Because it was close to the ground. Like it was on all fours, I guess.

I don't even understand how it was moving because its arms were just, like, flat against the ground, dragging. Like, I don't know how it moved. It's, like, totally disturbing and freakish and horrifying. So I was kind of just, like, briefly just frozen in shock being, like, I can't believe what I am seeing right now. like what is happening. And I remember looking to try to find its face. Like I couldn't see any face. Like there's no features that I could make out.

It was almost like a blur. I didn't know what the hell I was seeing. Like I didn't, I don't know what it was. Seeing it in general was like, you're perceiving something new. It's just like impossible to really relay that to someone. It's very hard to describe something that you barely have the language or knowledge of to begin with. So I'm looking at it.

I'm going through the shock of just having seen it. Very soon after that, I'm horrified and know that we need to get out of there as fast as possible because this is unnatural, which shouldn't be seeing it. I don't know. Maybe it's how you feel if you're being hunted or something, but it was like the worst, most sick feeling. And I've ever felt, like, ever. So I grab my friend and I'm like,

she like talks to me about like how my voice sounded, where I was just sounded so serious. I was like, we have to get out of here now. And I like grab her and we start running. And because we had walked to nearly the end of the graveyard, we have to run through the whole graveyard to get out. As soon as I started running, I was like, I am not looking back. I could not look back.

So I'm looking at the graves, and then, like, you can see on the far end of the graveyard there's, like, a street light. So I'm just, like, looking to the lights and, like, booking it. And the craziest part of this whole, like, seeing it, obviously, is insane. But the thing that really, like, stuck with me about the whole experience was the experience of running away. Because it was like, okay, now we're in, like, flight mode running away. But it was, like, one of the hardest things I've ever done for some reason was, like, get out of that graveyard. We're running, but it felt like I was having to pull on literally,

every part of my will to get out. It felt like running in like quicksand. Energetically, I was being like dragged down, being sucked back as I'm trying to like run forward like this deep thing, horrible despair, hopelessness. Like the worst feelings ever were like just like, matched onto me and like it felt like it was like pulling me like down into the earth almost. And I was like having to fight this feeling with like everything I had.

I've gone through tough things in my life that have not felt good. But like this feeling was just completely overwhelming. It was like being engulfed in despair. The worst sickening feeling, I actually felt like I was like, if I don't like tap into some deeper power that I was not going to get away. Because it's almost like when I was running away, it was like the first bit was just experiencing this pure like despair feeling that was overcoming me increasingly. So I'm realizing this is the craziest feeling I've ever felt in my life. and the worst. And I'm thinking about getting away,

but then this feeling is like pulling me back in. I felt like I needed help. And I tapped into some, like, greater power. And I don't know whether it's like my will, which is a greater power or if it was like a greater power, like, outside of me. But as soon as I, I, like, felt it, like, happened. Like I felt the shift from like being like so overwhelmed by the darkness to like feeling the shift into like, oh, I actually have a greater part of me or is that is like helping me get out of here. And then I felt like I knew, okay, I can get away.

But it was very hard to like unlock that I just like was given the energy that I needed to get away from that feeling. and to like keep going. And it's really, because it's not like, oh, I, physical energy. It wasn't like, oh, I needed physical energy to like keep running. It was nothing like physical. It was like some type of very strong sense of self at the same time as like protection. I felt like I had to like believe in my own ability to get out of there and my own strength. And that I was like protected.

As soon as I was able to tap into that, I could feel like it was getting, like I was being protected. The dark energy was having less power over me and I just stayed locked in on that feeling and like kept running. You know, it was just such an overwhelming feeling where like I don't think I could have said a word or like had a thought. It was like a completely like emotional experience. in my mind it feels like actually like slow-mo running being dragged the whole time but I think in reality we were just like running normally out of there. Finally we stop running so we're literally standing like on the side of the street and there's like street lights now and I remember looking back at this point and I mean the feeling like that dark feeling had left me and so I say to Martin like what the hell just happened? She's like just, she's like so scared and she's like,

did you see that? I told her exactly what I saw and she had seen it too, but she had just seen like a dark, like black shadow mask moving in the same way that I had seen the gray thing moving. I don't think I thought about it in that moment, When I think back to that now, I think about the differences in perception dictating a lot of like what supernatural creatures look like to people. And it made me think of like how I couldn't make out the face of this thing. Where I thought, well, then maybe for her it's like I couldn't make it out like beyond just like blackness.

Slowly the adrenaline is like coming down. We're like standing in the street and I at this point I look at. at my phone, and it's like almost four in the morning. And I remember being like totally shocked because we got in that graveyard at around midnight. We knew we were just going on a short little walk and going back home to go to bed by like a decent hour, like ideally before two in the morning. To me, it felt like we were speaking for 45 minutes, like max an hour. And and then see the thing, run. It was just impossible for that,

though that meant that amount of time to have passed. If I looked at my phone and it had said like two, I would have been like, okay, I guess that's still weird, but like, okay. But like almost four in the morning, I was like, what the fuck? And Marty was like, what the fuck? We were not in there for that long. seeing that that time jump, I feel like was this another confirmation of just like the strangeness that was happening. And I think that that time, I mean, because for me, the longest period of time felt like when we were running away from the thing.

It didn't feel like a long time when we were chatting. The time in there that felt long was the like running. So, like, I don't know what to, like, make of it at all, but the time was gone. After realizing it's super late and we lost time, we're just like, we just need to get home because this is all way too crazy and way too weird. We make it home and I think we ended up staying up just talking about what had just happened even more before we were like, okay, we just needed to, like, go to bed. And I remember it was hard to go to bed because I was still just like reeling from everything that just happened.

Maybe I was a little bit worried like, oh, what if like that thing knows where I am or something. But I mean, nothing else happened after that. After it like waking up the next day, you know, it's like with anything that happens, you kind of just have to get back to like your normal life. So I just got back to things as usual and life was still intense. You know, I'm dealing with my mom's, you know, health and that whole thing and other work stuff. It was just like I was very distracted by life where I wasn't really like thinking about what had happened all the time. Like I was, I kind of just moved on and I was like, okay, that happened. I have no explanation.

I don't think I'm going to find an explanation. So I kind of just, you know, leave that there and just kind of went back to like business as usual. The one change in lifestyle after was I was not going to that cemetery ever. I was, I had it like in my head. I was like there is something deeply dark and evil in there and I want nothing to do with it. I didn't even want to go there in the day. Like I avoided that cemetery for a good, six to eight months where I didn't like even if my friends would like be going there for maybe a

walk or picnic or hang out I'd be like nope and I was like starting to tell people I was like you should like actually be careful there is something there and it's not cool like I'm not hanging out there ever again especially at night so my mom like time at this point is so weird because like she passed away, she ended up passing away from cancer in September of 2019. And this happened in 2018. So like the year or two, whatever it is in between there, I was lucky enough to spend like a lot of really good quality time with my mom. And it was almost like her passing away wasn't real until it actually happened. because it had been so long of this possibility in my head that I was so used to

and then it just felt like fake until like she actually passed away. Super, super intense thing that like definitely changed my whole life. It changed my perspective on a lot of things and changed what I wanted to take seriously. And it changed what I, you know, believe in and what matters to me and really clarified a lot of stuff that I was ready to not care at all about anymore, which I'm grateful for because like it cut out all the bullshit in my life, basically. Six to eight months later, I remember it was spring and spring in Victoria is really beautiful. And it was a warm, sunny day. And I was walking by the cemetery for

some reason. And I'd been avoiding it for so long at that point where it like was this thing. And I like remember thinking it's a beautiful day, middle of the day, there's going to be other people in the cemetery. Like I can just go in. Just like prove to myself that I could go back there, I think. So I walk in from a different like point than I had like the night that it happened. I walk in from like a different entrance. And I walk in and there's like flowers everywhere. and it's like super, super beautiful. And I see a deer lying underneath a tree and the grass with flowers all around it. And the sun coming through and I was like, oh my God, it's so pretty.

And I wasn't scared at all. I didn't feel scared when I went back in there. And then so I took out my phone to take a picture of this deer lying in the grass. And I like take out my phone and open up the like camera. and as soon as I like open up the camera like my phone just starts like totally glitching out the colors of everything were like changing to like bright blue and yellow it was like doing multiple exposures of like the vines on the tree and like it was flipping the gravestones into the upside down into the sky like above the deal just like doing some crazy shit and I was like

what the hell I thought like my phone screen was like my phone screen was like dying or something for some reason. So for 10 minutes, my phone was going crazy to the point where I couldn't use it. And I was like, okay, I have a broken phone now. You know, I don't know what's happening with my phone. I just take some pictures and it's like working to take pictures. So I'm like, okay, I keep walking through the cemetery. And this time I leave the cemetery from like the beach side.

So I like run down the embankment. As I'm walking out looking at my phone, like, glitching out, like I kid you not, the second that I walked down the little hill out of that graveyard onto the sidewalk, my phone like stops glitching completely. It's like nothing, it's like normal now. Like the second I stepped out of there was back to normal. I'm like, okay, I'm going to look at the pictures. I just took of this deer and I look, I bring up the pictures and the pictures are, like, they still have like the crazy glitch anomalies like are in the picture. Like the pictures look insane. And I'm looking at these pictures being like, how did this happen? Because I'm a photographer.

I just know that like, this doesn't just happen with photos. I wouldn't even know how to do it if I wanted to. Later on during COVID, there was like a Facebook group for like haunted Victoria that I was like lurking because I don't know, out of curiosity and because I had this experience. And so I'm like lurking this Facebook and then this lady posted these pictures in the Ross Bay Cemetery. She was visiting this famous artist, Emily Carr's grave, is buried there. So a lot of people go to visit her grave. And she was taking pictures of Emily Carr's grave. And her pictures looked quite similar to like the flipping and the color that I had in my photos.

So I was like just like super surprised that like someone else had like a similar. thing happened. Like her glitches weren't as intense as mine, but it was still like the like flipped into the sky image and like the same blue color that was in mind. So then I like commented my pictures and I was like, oh, that's crazy that like this has happened to both of us. And like I do wonder like who else. Maybe other people have had similar photo anomalies happen. I did like share this story in the comments on that Facebook group to mixed, you know, reaction. whatever. That's just what you're going to get. So I'm comfortable sharing this story. I guess being in the comments online is a lot less vulnerable. In person, I'll only really talk about it, you know,

with people that I know aren't going to like laugh in my face, you know, or like totally write it off. Like I'll bring it up if it's like the right moment and the conversation is kind of like going there. But otherwise, no. it's been such a long time since this happened now where I think I don't I don't think about it a whole lot but like when I do I do kind of realize how this has like changed my perception of things because before I wasn't like closed off to anything but I also wasn't like an active believer you know and just to have a this happen just like made like the supernatural feel so much more real. Like I think I've taken it a lot more seriously ever since. Anytime that like people might be casually playing around with the idea of like trying to tap into the supernatural or even do spiritual practices,

I really want to take it very seriously and have like a lot of respect for it and to treat it like it is completely real because, I mean, to me, it is. Thank you so much to Sierra for sharing her story. I have to say, she sent me the photos that she tried taking of the deer when her phone was glitching in the cemetery, and they are very weird. I've been doing photography and video work for most of my life. Obviously, lots of people show me photos. that they think might be paranormal.

And I hate to disappoint people, but it's almost always some kind of strange camera behavior that I instantly recognize. With Sierra's photos, though, I genuinely have never seen a photo glitch out in this way. It's kind of hard to describe. There's a lot going on in them, and I'm not really sure how it could have happened.

even if there is an explanation, which maybe there is, I don't know everything. It's very weird that it only happened to her phone in the cemetery and then never happened again as soon as she left. And the fact that it also seemed to happen to another person at that same cemetery. Maybe the phone glitching is totally unrelated. Maybe it's not. But either way, it added to an already very strange. and unsettling series of events that happened to her in this story. So thank you once again to Sierra.

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