Otherworld - Episode 48: It's You, Isn't It?
Episode Date: September 18, 2023A woman named Christine suffered from a multitude of mysterious physical health issues. For years, no doctor could figure out what was wrong with her. As a result, her mental health took a turn, and d...epression sank in. During this time, she began waking up in what she called "the void". She would find herself in a black space, experiencing time pass, but not dreaming. Soon, she felt terror in this space and eventually began to be attacked by something in this void. All of these things compounded on each other and became too much to bear until one night changed it all. To see photos related to this episode, click here Subscribe to Otherworld on Patreon for exclusive content and bonus interviews Check out our Merch Follow us on: Instagram, TikTok, Twitter If you have experienced something paranormal or unexplained, email us your full story at stories@otherworldpod.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host, Jack Wagner.
This episode is about a woman named Christine.
A while back, we released a two-part series called The Nighthag.
It was about a guy named Alec who was tormented by this old woman spirit every night when he slept as a kid.
And it's a really crazy story.
If you haven't heard those, you could go listen to them.
But those episodes really struck a court with people.
and I received a lot of emails after that came out.
Christine was one of those people,
but her email was quite different.
It was asking just one simple question.
She asked me,
have you ever heard of anyone seeing a beautiful night hag?
That's exactly what she asked me, word for word.
And I replied that, no, I have not heard of that.
And I, of course, asked her why she was asking.
Anyway, she went on to tell me a little bit about what happened to her, and at first she was a little reluctant to be on the podcast, but ended up deciding to share her story.
And it's a really, really wild story. And a story that I think, honestly, is not related to the Nighthag episodes at all.
I think it's something completely different, but I could see why those episodes inspired her to write in.
Christine is doing great now. She owns a business and lives a very nice.
non-spooky lifestyle, but a while back, she began experiencing some really horrible and
mysterious health problems. These physical issues got so bad that they eventually took a toll on her
mental health as well until it reached a point that's about as low as a person can go. And at that point,
some strange things started to happen. I've definitely heard of there being a connection
between real-life turmoil and paranormal incidents.
Some people believe that certain entities can thrive or feed off of negative energy.
Maybe they're even attracted to it.
A skeptical person would probably say that it's just your imagination running wild during
tumultuous periods of your life.
And then the third way to look at it is that that paranormal entity might be the cause
of the physical and mental negativity in the first.
first place. This is a story that seems to point to the third option being the case. I'm going to let
her tell the story for herself. This is episode 48. The title is, it's you, isn't it? And you're
listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it's at its core of the science. You can't
argue with it. I'm worried about all the science. It's almost frustrating that it's happening. I'm
literally, I'm going to die.
I'm going to die.
It's limbs were just like wrong.
Everybody moves back into the light, even if it takes them ahead.
Hi, my name is Christine.
I live on the East Coast.
I was definitely hesitant to tell this story
because I myself don't even know what to make of it, frankly.
I've always been open,
and I've always been maybe a little bit of a seeker.
But like, I would definitely not consider myself that.
I don't really have any hippie tendencies in any way.
I don't, I've never really believed in, like, what people would consider, like, woo, woo.
Yeah, like, I was just never a person who necessarily believed in, like, energies or things like that.
Like, I've always been open to the idea of it, but it wasn't something that I ever particularly had an interest in.
And so I've always considered myself more logical and kind of more, I don't know, corporal-minded.
at the heart of me, and I'm definitely a skeptic, but I'm open, and I've always been open to the idea that there are things that we don't understand and we don't see and we don't perceive because there's, like, there's so much in the natural world that humans already can't perceive.
So why wouldn't there be other things?
So when this story happened, I had always had some, like, minor, minor things that I was like, oh, that's weird.
happened to me in my previous life, like, before the story happened. But this was like the first
time I was like, I really don't know what's going on. And I'm not sure what to make of it.
Because I'm open, like, because I'm like, I actually hope that we get to the point where science
meets up with a lot of this stuff. I mean, up until, like, we didn't even understand biology or
anything until, like, 150 years ago. So I have to believe that there are things that we know as a species
intuitively that science will eventually come circle back to and figure out or will we'll figure
out on some point. So I don't think the people who like are woo-woo and things like that, like,
I think that they probably intuitively have something going on and I just don't understand it
because I don't have that element about me. But I do believe that science will eventually marry up
and we'll figure out more scientifically like what's actually causing these intuitive feelings that we have.
And I would like to have full of disclosure that, like, part of the reason that I've struggled with my own story is because I was a kid who had a bunch of sleep issues.
Like, name a sleep issue and I've had it in my life.
And so to me, like, the real start of the story is, like, childhood.
So when I was a kid, I, in hindsight, looking back, I think I was a very anxious child.
and my parents did not believe in things like therapy.
And so instead they got me hypnotapes to try and, like, hypnotize me to sleep.
I don't know.
It's like I don't really tell people this because it sounds so strange.
But I guess one of their friends had given them some sleep tapes that they thought worked.
So up until this point, I really had only really experienced probably like sleepwalking.
And I must have been, when I started.
I started sleepwalking, I must have been like really little, like super little, because I was
constantly climbing out of my crib and stuff according to my mom.
So I started sleepwalking early, and then I actually doubled back and I asked my mom when
they got me those tapes because I knew I was doing this interview and I was like, is my
perception of this wrong?
And turns out the tapes happened a lot sooner and earlier than I had remembered.
So I was probably roughly like seven or eight when the tapes got introduced.
What I remember is that it was a lot of beach sounds and things that you would like typically, you know, like white noise and trying to fall asleep, like very soothing, calming background noise.
But then there was a woman's voice just kind of like slowly talking instructions.
And so some of the instructions would be like relax all of your fingertips, you know, like focus on your fingers.
relax and like kind of like trying to get you to kind of just focus on the here and now.
And then at one point during the tape, it was like a backwards counting.
It was like we're going to like fall slowly into the recesses of sleep and we're going to start at
100 and don't focus on the numbers.
And it's like stuff like that where like it just starts counting backwards.
And the reason I remember that part is because that's the thing that got me familiar with liminal spaces.
And I think that to me is like why I'm starting here for my story is because when all of this started
happening in my adulthood, I was super comfortable with liminal spaces because of these hematapes.
After the interview, Christine was actually able to track down those meditation tapes that her parents were playing for her as a kid.
And I'm going to let you listen to a sample of these because I think whether you're a full believer or a stone cold skeptic, I'm sure we could all agree that a child falling asleep to meditation tapes, especially a child that has sleep issues already, might have some strange consequences.
Take a listen.
Have you ever wanted to be a bird?
well in just a few moments you can become a bird all it takes is your imagination
well the rain has stopped now if you want you can still be a bird and fly to your favorite place
or you can be yourself again back in your good
old body, resting peacefully. Each time you take this flying trip, you may notice something different.
Because your imagination never runs out of new pictures and feelings. I'm not going to talk anymore.
They'll just be the stream and the birds. Can you explain to me what liminal spaces are?
So I use the term a lot and I realized I was using the term a lot, but to me it's a, it's a boundary spot.
It's not quite our normal reality and it's not quite the dream state that we all know.
It is a secondary spot in between that neither the entity that I was encountering lives in nor I live in.
but it's a space where we can actually commune together because somehow we can both exist there.
Well, neither one of us can really exist on one plane or the other.
So, like, as I got like seven or eight year old me, like was listening to these tapes and trying to fall asleep because she was insomnia as like a seven year old.
Like I started, I don't know, really focusing and being able to like understand when my body was.
falling asleep to the point that where the whole reason I even stopped listening to the tapes is I
started basically being able to hypnotize myself into sleep and doing the same kind of processes.
And so I would like talk myself backwards into sleep. And I would just know I was going in.
It's like the same stuff people do when they're actively trying to lose a dream, right?
Like that's, the whole process is basically the same to my very limited knowledge because I never really
explored it because this happened to me when I was like seven or eight.
So basically I spent this entire period of my life probably from like seven to like,
I don't know, 12, 13, really just like lucid dreaming every single night.
And not only lucid dreaming, but like I definitely was a person that could transition
myself in and out of sleep. And so when I would transition out of sleep, sometimes the remnants of
what I was seeing were hallucinations in my room. So hearing all of this, it would be really easy to
kind of say, oh, well, she's just having sleep hallucinations again. But for me, because I've had so much
experience with these types of sleep hallucinations, it almost adds weight to the argument that
it's not because it wasn't. So as a kid who had sleep issues, I got really, really, just really
used to knowing what that in-between space, the liminal space between sleep and waking was. Like,
I could bring myself into it, take myself out of it. And then, you know, as most kids do,
like when you get older and when you, like, move on with your life, you typically kind of like
just grow out of certain things. So I don't.
I don't really lucid dream anymore.
Like, I still have bouts of insomnia, but, like, know how to kind of get myself through that stuff.
So I probably stopped really actively lucid dreaming when I was probably about 15.
And from about 16, up until where the story begins, I haven't really had any sleep issues other than, like, maybe insomnia.
I do, however, have very vivid dreams.
It's very clear that they're dreams, and I do know that they're just dreams.
But I'm just the type of person who literally I can tell you what I dreamt about last night.
Like I dream every single night.
I always wake up knowing what I dreamt about.
It's just part of me.
Like, it's always been there.
And so, knowing all of that information, let's kind of get into the actual story.
So I've always had kind of like minor bouts of depression.
It comes and it goes.
It's usually not that bad.
I know how to get out of it.
I know how to move forward from it.
I think I've only really had maybe like three in total my entire life.
And they've only ever lasted a few months maximum.
So anywhere from a couple weeks to like a couple months.
Maybe like three or four months.
maximum. And I know when it's coming on, it's typically triggered by something, and I know what
that trigger is. And then I'm like, oh, okay, I'm depressed. I should probably figure this out.
So that's happened on and off throughout my life. Never really thought much about it other than
it's just part of me. So fast forward to 35. And I had a major life event happen that I was
unprepared for that sent me into what I thought was a normal depression.
But turns out it was my first experience with like what would be classified as a major
depression.
But I just didn't know it at the start.
The whole story spans from roughly mid-2017 to spring of 2021.
So mid-2017 is when my depression started.
At first, it seemed pretty normal.
I was doing all the steps that I do to get out of it.
And it just kind of wasn't going away.
And I couldn't figure out why.
And I was just trying to move forward in my life.
And it was just lingering.
Somewhere in 2018, I started getting physically ill.
And when I say physically ill, I mean just having all sorts of symptoms.
And I've always been a pretty athletic person, and I've been really, really, really in tune with my body since I was very young.
I played a competitive sports.
And so I've always been really, because of that, always been really, like, in tune with how my body feels.
So in 2018, I started getting a whole host of symptoms that just were not right.
I would have tinnitus.
I'm a person that doesn't naturally get headaches.
I was getting headaches.
I started gaining weight unexpectedly, and not like anybody else would have noticed, but I noticed.
There were just little things here and there that I was like, what is going on?
I started feeling super lethargic, a lot of gastrointestinal issues, things like that.
And just decided, okay, something's going on, something's wrong.
So I started just going to doctor's appointments, trying to figure out what was wrong with me.
all throughout 2018, no one could figure out what was wrong with me.
And things just kind of kept getting worse.
When I first went to the doctor's appointments in 2018,
I was pretty adamant that there was something like wrong with me.
And my primary care didn't care.
I went to a different primary care.
They didn't care.
I learned a lot about the medical system and how they treat women.
Like it pretty much was all like, it's just stress and anxiety.
So it took me a while to find.
anybody who would even like test me or listen to me. Finally, my OB-Eguine actually was like,
hey, this sounds like this. Why don't we test you for it? And so they did find that I had a thyroid
issue at that point. And it was minor. It was like a minor elevation in my thyroid. So thyroid
issues can be like caused by stress and anxiety. And I was like, okay, I'm very stressed. I'm very
anxious at this time period because I'm going, I had this big life event and now I'm like, you know,
I'm thinking about this big life event and I'm depressed.
I was like, okay, well, maybe I'm just doing it to myself.
Maybe everybody's right.
Maybe I'm just stressed and anxious.
So I changed my diet.
I went on some medications.
And lo and behold,
two months later, after doing that,
I went back in and my thyroid levels were normal again.
However, my symptoms were not.
So my thyroid, back in line.
I've never had an issue with it since.
And that was like in 2018.
but yet all of these symptoms that I had been having continued on.
So I kept going to doctors trying to figure out what was wrong with me.
At this point in the story,
and it must have been somewhere around the turn of 2018 to 2019,
is when I stopped dreaming,
and that got weird for me
to literally wake up for days upon,
days and then weeks upon weeks on end and not remember a single dream but not even know
what was going on in your brain the night before was I know it doesn't sound like much to
anybody else but for me it was wildly jarring and I used to wake up when this was happening
and just turn to my husband and be like I'm in a void like I'm in a void all night and
And like, I don't know what's going on and I don't know why I'm not dreaming and it's kind of starting to weird me out.
And it weirded me out to the point that when I would go into the doctor's offices, it would actually be like the first symptom I would tell them.
I was like, yeah, I have all of this other stuff going on, but then also this is going on and it's so abnormal for me.
Like, that has to be a clue to something else.
and none of the doctors seem
and interested at all
in that symptom.
So I just kind of let it go.
So now in Cirque of 2019,
I'm still experiencing symptoms,
still don't know what's going on with me medically,
and I'm also literally devoid of dreams.
Looking back at everything,
what really stands out to me
is that it was,
it felt like a deliberate,
escalation, every single stage felt like a deliberate escalation that I wasn't in control of.
And so the reason I call it The Void is that because to literally stop dreaming for me was so
jarring, but also it didn't just feel like my dreams had ceased.
It felt like I was stuck in a black hole the entire night.
So like imagine if you're not having a dream, but you are conscious that you are not having a dream.
That is what it felt like.
I was just in darkness.
It was just darkness.
That's why I call it the void.
Like it felt like a space of darkness.
Okay, we have to take a quick break, but we will be right back.
And so this goes on and on for a while.
And I just keep getting more and more lethargic and more and more tired.
And more and more, honestly, unable to go about my daily life.
Like, at a point somewhere, either in 2019 or beginning of 2020, I guess it was the end of 2019, beginning of 2020, I would just like take naps midday because I just couldn't do anything else.
And I, if anybody who knows me, because I have all these sleep issues, I've never napped in my
entire life.
I didn't nap when I was a kid.
Like, nothing is a bad sign for me.
So, yeah, I just, like, I wasn't getting any sleep.
I was exhausted all the time.
And every night, I would just kind of move into the space that I would wake up saying I was in
the void.
Fast forward a little bit.
And probably we're talking about 20.
at this point.
2019, I'm in the void really consistently, just completely stop dreaming.
My medical issues are getting worse and worse and worse.
I'm going to all these doctors' offices.
No one can figure out what's going on.
Everybody's telling me it's just stress and anxiety.
And then I started having heart palpitations.
And then I started having high blood pressure, which is fun,
as like a 38-year-old generally healthy person.
And they started putting me on blood pressure medication
and everything in my body was just kind of going,
hey, wire.
But yet, I kept switching doctors,
and they kept saying nothing was wrong with me.
So then, somewhere very late,
this was very late 2019,
I finally found a doctor to listen to me.
And they were like, oh, well, no one's done this.
secondary blood test. Why don't we just do that? So they pulled the secondary blood test.
Turned out I was severely anemic. This is not shocking to me. Like anemia runs in my family,
but it was shocking that it took a long time for anybody to figure that out. And why it's important
to the story is that anemia could explain, again, we're going back to all the things that I'm like,
okay, well, this explains this and this explains this. All of these things can be explained away,
except the dreaming at this point, right?
So anemia can cause heart palpitations,
anemia can cause high blood pressure,
and amelia can cause lethargy, all of these things.
Oh, also my hair was falling out.
That's another one.
So actively going to dermatologists
to try and figure out why my hair was just falling out in clumps.
Anemia can cause hair falling out.
And I was so anemic that they basically were like,
if you had waited any longer,
we were going to have to immediately go give you blood transfusions.
So Circus Spring 2020 is when I had
my infusions, not spring, it was like January. So it was like really, really early 2020 is when I
had my infusions. They said at a maximum, it should take, they said I should start feeling pretty
much back to normal within two to three weeks. That well, that just definitely did not happen.
And they said at a maximum, maybe a few months because of the type of anemia I had, like it need
to like replenish my backup stores. And so let me be clear. I did not feel better. And I, in fact,
While it helped a little, I just still felt roughly the same as I felt before the anemia.
So right around the time that I'm getting my infusions, I'm still stuck in the void.
I started waking up consistently at like 3 a.m. on the dot.
And it started happening just so, like clockward.
So not only was I waking up at 3, like in the middle of the night at 3 a.m.
I was actually kind of waking up terrified.
I am not a person who is super easily scared of the dark,
especially not my own house.
Like I've always, any house that I've ever lived in,
I've always been super comfortable in.
It's like my happy place.
I'm pretty much a homebody.
And I bought this house.
I love this house so much.
It's the house I still live in.
And I woke up in the middle of the night,
consistently terrified of something.
And I didn't know what.
And all I knew is that, like, I would wake up and feel like it was, like, in the corner of my bedroom above the door to my bedroom.
And where I was oriented in the room is, like, I was on, our bed was positioned on the center of the back wall.
And so I would wake up and basically look up to that corner and just, like, hunker down because I was like, what?
why am I scared right now?
Why do I think I'm scared of something,
this non-existent thing in the corner of my room?
But I don't know.
Like, I just was.
Like, I don't know how to describe it other than
I was just kind of innately terrified of this spot.
The other thing that was happening is, like,
when I would wake up at 3 a.m.,
and this thing would be in the corner,
the room also felt really hot.
And I don't know what to do about that.
Like, I would just,
wake up and it would feel so oppressively hot. And to this day, I don't even know if the heat was
like in my mind or if it was just like focused on me because like my husband would never complain
about it. But like, it would be hot. And so I'd wake up at 3 a.m. The room would be insanely hot.
I'd feel this thing in the corner. And I would just like literally just hunker down.
into my bed with the covers and just like ignore it.
Just ignore it.
And some nights I would try to go back to sleep.
And some nights I would just kind of write it out until I felt comfortable enough going
back to sleep.
And so it was different strategy every time because some nights I felt safe enough to try
and fall back asleep.
And some nights I just didn't.
And so I would just sit there and like hang out in my bed under my covers until for
whatever reason, the mood shifted in the room and I felt safe enough to go back to sleep.
It felt angry, I think, and oppressive. Oppressive is a really good way.
Like, as I, like, think about, it felt very, it felt focused. Like, it's not like this
general, like, oh, this feeling was just, like, generally in the room. It was, like, focused to
one spot. And it felt like it was staring at me.
And it wasn't there every single time I woke up at 3 a.m.
But then it started being there consistently every time I woke up at 3 a.m.
So like I was saying, everything in hindsight I realize was a deliberate escalation
where it felt like something was continually trying new tactics when the first tactic wasn't working.
So it started out with the void.
then I would wake up at 3 a.m. to something staring at me in my room, trying to scare me.
It felt like that thing was planning something. And so then when I started having what I consider
to be the night attacks, it felt like that thing had figured out a way to start physically
attacking me while I slept.
kind of going back to the void,
it felt like that same space that I had been stuck in
while I just considered it like a lack of dreaming or the void,
but when I now realized was like the void,
when I would wake up to these night attacks,
I realized that the void was the place that I was being attacked,
essentially.
It felt like a football player running into my chest is what it felt like.
So if, like, a linebacker went to go tackle you,
and just put all of the pressure on your chest in a repeated motion.
And then when that wasn't working,
it would start with lighter ramming towards my throat
and then eventually like my head and my mouth.
It felt like it was just trying to get inside my upper chest cavity.
And it was a repeated kind of like a battering ram
where it would go back, try and get more motion, like more momentum,
and ram even harder.
the next time. And one thing I did remember is that it was coming from the same trajectory
as where the thing was. So like, it was coming from that corner whenever it would go back
to try and hit me again, it was coming from that trajectory. It probably went on for about
eight or nine months until it escalated into its final stage. So,
During these night attacks, I, for some reason, instinctively, would not open my eyes.
I think part of what they were trying to do was to get me to open my eyes, which is why I started at the very tail end waking up in sleep paralysis because I think it wanted me to look at it for some reason.
But during these night attacks, I just wouldn't open my eyes.
So I don't consciously know what this thing look like.
in my mind's eye, I perceived it as a black shadow that was like a black cloud running into me.
When I was being attacked, the first time that it happened, like, I obviously was caught off guard.
But I was able to physically, with my action,
arms push this thing off of me. So the next time that it happened, I was trying to physically
push it off of me and it wasn't working. And so I almost instinctively started to try and concentrate my
personal life force into a ball of energy to push that and physically push my hands off.
of him.
Like, so basically it was a concentration.
Like, what I was trying to do is take the energy of my own body,
concentrate it in almost a ball-like form,
and throw it at the entity.
I knew what this felt like from, like, a physical, like, experience
that I'd had previously.
So I think, for whatever reason, I was like,
I've got the energy to get this thing off of me.
I can repel it with more force.
And the more force that I came up with was energy out of my own body.
In these night attacks, everything that I tried worked until it didn't.
So I started with physically trying to push it off of me.
When that didn't work, that's when I would try and throw up these energy shields.
Those worked for a while.
And then when they stopped working, that's when I started pulling to,
like mantras and different, different chance in order to try and give me, I guess,
extra emotional support to get it off of me.
And so everything basically worked until it didn't.
And then I had to try a new tactic because it felt like from the entities and, like, from
the entity's side, they were trying to get stronger and do new tactics as well.
So it felt like a standoff.
It felt like a battle.
one of the main things that I'm now that I remembered after we spoke is that I actually woke up saying the Lord's Prayer a lot.
So because I was raised Catholic, I have all these like, you know, very, I know how to, I know how to say a rosary, right?
So I have all of this muscle memory of saying all of these very standard prayers.
And I would wake up saying Hail Mary's.
I would wake up saying the Lord's Prayer.
I would wake up saying just general mantras like, I live in the light and the love.
you do not belong here.
I am a belight, you do not belong here.
And the name of Jesus, I cast you out.
Like these are all things that I woke up saying
that as a non-religious person
and as a person now who doesn't even associate as a Christian,
these are just not things I've even thought about in 20 years, frankly.
So it was very jarring.
So as this went on, my life just kind of got more and more.
out of control a little bit more chaotic and more chaotic.
Between just continually feeling awful with my health issues,
continuing to feel depressed and not being able to get out of that depression.
The other things that were going on in my life is that because I was so emotionally distraught,
during this time period is I started alienating a lot of my close friends and family.
And so I felt more isolated and alone.
And in hindsight, I think that was one of the goals and the tactics of what was going on
is that they wanted me to feel hopeless.
They wanted me to feel alone.
And they wanted me to believe that I had nothing to live for.
So this particular night, I thought I had woken up.
And I just woke up and I was in my room.
And then I looked up and there was a person, not a person, a woman standing directly over my bed.
My first thought was that our house had been broken into and there's a woman standing over me staring at me in bed.
And my second thought was like, wait, that can't.
can't be right because look at how she's dressed.
And I don't know how I'll describe it.
This woman was gorgeous.
Like she was beautiful.
She looked like, and this is going to sound weird that I'm making this distinction.
But like she, her face looked like a, like a movie star from the 1940s based off of
like her makeup and like how her eyebrows were and just like her general facial.
feature. She looked like a Lauren Bacall or like one of those old tiny movie stars. But then when I
looked at her heart, like when I took her all in, she was wearing an Edwardian evening gown, like the type
that you would see like in Downton Abbey when they're all dressing for dinner. And so it was like this
1910s to 1920 or 20s transition period dress where it's just like, you know, costume,
where it's like just this beautiful, intricate beaded, almost flapper style evening gown.
And she had like the full regalia, like the dress was white and beaded and crystals everywhere.
and her hair, which was like gorgeous and like had this,
these brown luxurious curls falling down her back,
was done up and a half up, half down hairstyle,
and she was wearing like a 1920s flapper's headdress
to go with all of this.
She was stunning.
Like her face, like how she was staring at me wasn't scary.
Like I wasn't actually scared of.
her in that moment.
I think I was just more fascinated by her and kind of an awe of her beauty.
And I don't know, I just kept staring at her and she was just staring at me.
And so I look at her and I say, it's you, isn't it?
And she didn't say anything.
She just turned her head, even though she was already looking at me, she turned her head kind of even more downward to me, and just smiled.
Like she knew what I was asking.
And like the smile was the answer.
But also, it wasn't like a menacing smile.
Like, I can't emphasize this enough.
Like, her smile was not malicious.
It was not, there was nothing weird about her smile.
like she didn't have scary teeth.
Like a knowing smile of like, yep.
Yep, it's me.
And I was like, oh shit.
Like she responded to me and like she's trying to tell me like this is her.
Like this is it.
And this is the point when I try to reach over to my husband,
we'd be like, we need to get the fuck out of here.
And I realize I'm in sleep paralysis.
And so at that point, it was good because I knew how to get out of it.
So I just woke myself up and it was all over.
But the interaction itself was very quick, but like really scary.
Like I actually didn't really become so scared of the whole thing until really after I fully woke up.
And I was like, what was that?
What just happened?
And like I literally interacted with a thing, like going back to the whole, you know, like, liminal space conversation where like I've had lucid dreams before.
I've had these different things.
I, if it was really coming from my own brain, I actually know how to control them.
And like this, there was no control involved with this whatsoever.
Like, it was like two entities, myself and this other, like actually interacting on some conscious manner.
I don't know what her intent or motivation is, but a part of me, a part of me wonders that she was there to help.
A part of me thinks that she was there to gloat.
And a part of me thinks that she was there because she and her minions actually gave up.
And I woke up.
And ever since that day, ever since that act, ever since that act.
actual freaking day. I've never had a single bout of sleep paralysis. I have never had another night
entity attack. I have never had my dreams came back almost immediately. And all of my actual physical
symptoms, it went from like, it jumped from me feeling like maybe 60% of myself to like 90%
of myself almost immediately. And then over the next couple of months, I like basically got back to
100%. So like the things that kind of went away were my blood pressure went back to normal.
I stopped feeling lethargic. My hair stopped falling out. My gastrointestinal issues went away.
My back pains went away. I stopped having headaches. I stopped having to sleep in the middle of the
day because I was so, I needed to take a nap because I was so tired. Pretty much I had like had all of
these different things and like they all just like just generally stopped. And not like I don't want it to
make it sound like overly dramatic. It's just like, oh, the next day it was totally fine. But like
literally over the next couple of weeks, whereas like when I got my infusions, my anemia infusions,
it still wasn't going away from this was like a year plus on from them. Like it never stopped.
When I, when I saw what I say is the white lady, literally within like three or four weeks,
I was pretty much almost normal again. And that's the story.
Okay, thank you so much to Christine for sharing her story.
I think the appearance of this woman distracts from perhaps the wildest detail of this entire story,
which is that all of her health issues went away instantly.
And things were really bad, really bad.
She told me more details when we weren't recording.
And then all of the sudden, after she sees this woman in white and confronts her, everything goes away.
Like, I don't know how to get the point across better than this without being too literal,
but things were very bad, physical and mental.
And suddenly, in an instant, it's all gone.
Her doctors say that everything is back to normal.
That is crazy.
That is crazy.
So Christine views this experience as this woman being the cause of all those issues that were tormenting.
her for so long, both physical and mental issues. And I tend to agree, but part of me while recording
this started to wonder, is it possible that this woman was actually something benevolent
that appeared to Christine after chasing off whatever was actually attacking her for all that time?
Maybe she was something good, came to help her, and then appeared before saying goodbye to give her
that smile. I don't know if that's the case, but it's something that popped into my head,
and I think my favorite stories are ones where you can interpret it multiple different ways.
Either way, I'm very glad she is doing better and has not had any issues since that night.
This has been episode 48. The title is, it's you isn't it, and you've been listening to Otherworld.
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