Ottoman History Podcast - Cümle Fener Burada

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

Namık Erkal, Firuzan Melike Sümertaş ve Haris Theodorelis-Rigas Sunucu: Can Gümüş | 1719’da Bükreş’te yaşayan bir âlim, İstanbul’daki bir dostuna yazdığı mektupta, “C�...�mle Fener burada; artık İstanbul’u hatırlamıyorum” diyordu. Koç Üniversitesi Anadolu Medeniyetleri Araştırma Merkezi’nde (ANAMED) açılan Cümle Fener Burada: Hane, Mahalle, Saray ve Şehir sergisine adını veren bu ifade, Fenerlilerin tarihini yalnızca bir topluluğun yükselişi ve dolaşımı üzerinden değil, İstanbul ile Eflak ve Boğdan arasında kurulan mekânsal bağlar ile nesnelerin, siyasi ritüellerin ve kültürel pratiklerin dolaşımı üzerinden düşünmeye davet ediyor. Bu bölümde “Fenerliler Çağı”nı ve 1821 sonrasındaki dönüşümü, voyvodaların atanma merasimlerini, Haliç kıyısında yaşanan mimari ve mekânsal değişimi ve Fenerlilerin maddi kültürünü konuşuyoruz. Aynı zamanda, bir araştırma sergisinin üretim ve sergileme süreçlerini ele alıyor, dağılmış ve çoğu zaman kaybolmuş bir mirasın nasıl görünür kılındığını, küratoryal anlatının bilinen ile varsayılan, mevcut ile kayıp arasındaki boşluklarla nasıl çalıştığını tartışıyoruz. Maddi kültür, mekân ve gündelik hayata odaklanan bu yaklaşım vesilesiyle, Fenerlileri ulusal tarihyazımlarının sabit kategorilerinin ötesinde, farklı coğrafyalar arasında şekillenen çok katmanlı bir topluluk olarak ele alıyor. « Click for More »

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Starting point is 00:28:15 like, saddra-z-lard-olde and the, macam-hally we're doing. So, so-lisly, the, the, a-tam-an-chari-s, the con-a-gere-old,
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Starting point is 00:31:12 And then, the house of the Vovoda, in the city, and Voivodan's in the country, Domna's, in the life-alana in the same in the same turn, and two-a-dren, one of the other the other than the the event-eachem-ectivist
Starting point is 00:31:28 this ishick-e-eared. So, Fenerd's in a time, again a chub-yak-a-cath-a-cath-a-cath-a-a-a-a-cath-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-lap-a There's a messles. There, Topkapus sarahy in the Newcherilers together with chorba-itchelmany. It's very important. The new chelagh's a very important.
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Starting point is 00:47:44 President, Alexander Mavra Kordatos, is a very important a fenerli day with deng, because Fennerl, they're, hem, the social tergues, and intellectual
Starting point is 00:47:53 levels are very, too, are much, they're in, parliamento to get you know, the new
Starting point is 00:47:58 new-elit is a very important part of the and the edibiat in the archaeology
Starting point is 00:48:04 in the role of their there. So, the edibiat first the new,
Starting point is 00:48:10 the new, the new, the government in the new, the world,
Starting point is 00:48:14 the panariot don't, I mean, think, 18130, 1880 80-
Starting point is 00:48:20 80- and 80- and feneril in Guant in-D- -Ebby
Starting point is 00:48:25 in- in the but, also, the big parts of the church in the government in the time in
Starting point is 00:48:32 the same, and the then the same as the last I'm saying, asmanlia to give
Starting point is 00:48:38 and an important role who are, he diplomat as, and the government of the
Starting point is 00:48:43 so that all right and you know you know, the for the middle
Starting point is 00:48:48 the thing, the Turkey. Turkey. Turkey. Turkey's also in Afghanistan
Starting point is 00:48:53 as in a certainly chetrefilly and carmaish because you knowinistan of the during the government overation
Starting point is 00:48:59 and in the time in the year's year and it's year going to be over but there there's a one of course
Starting point is 00:49:04 there's one year one year year again hellenism or the human culture or the
Starting point is 00:49:09 room and the great people still still still still and
Starting point is 00:49:13 this fenerlilil and actually even even even in again we're
Starting point is 00:49:16 we're we're we're one 18121 one a a not,
Starting point is 00:49:22 we're not even Istanbul, and Fennerde be a sure going to be sure in the physical in life in life they're in
Starting point is 00:49:28 the pera'n and beyeauhul' being used year's in the year's year year's early beginning, I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to it's a time, and also, it's a lot of,
Starting point is 00:49:40 maybe, the termionion bureau is curled again, a, I mean, a room, a room,
Starting point is 00:49:44 only can't comeulm over over, or, in the Ottoman's, in, you knowetian in the year's in the year to go to rooml'er
Starting point is 00:49:51 going to get me and then Istanbul in the room, in the community's in the community in the inmenerlick annatism to make things about
Starting point is 00:49:58 more much as much year, and in the Latin-Literatured, and the Islamliterate in Istanbul, Istanbul,
Starting point is 00:50:04 Istanbul is a great a great-andatism coming to obviously, maybe, the medietchill kind of
Starting point is 00:50:09 a very important, but it's about 20th year back in, So, the wars are uptick, the Unan Georaphias, and inundra the toprakiplers arttick,
Starting point is 00:50:17 more than a hathlete will be able to make that these two Ulus, the militaryitial in one against, so, eight, one hundred hundred one,
Starting point is 00:50:25 one hundred one, one, one against, one against, one of the , it's the time we're going to continue to our time we're
Starting point is 00:50:32 our time, we're actually the time in the time, we're actually the time, maybe, the course,
Starting point is 00:50:39 almost, maybe, Or in 19974, I'm, Selanik's a lot of a menerlomer symposium
Starting point is 00:50:44 dozening. And, even a lot of roman in the time in the lot of the time,
Starting point is 00:50:48 and then we're in 50 years after, 10 years ago, we're in the second back us
Starting point is 00:50:53 in the process to the part-of- many-of- many-st- many-stil- people-
Starting point is 00:50:59 and much-lety- part-of- a-tall- a-l-l- part-l-l-l- about a-l-l- -lars-n- I-L-Lan-Turk
Starting point is 00:51:07 years-lars- I guesslars. I'm, I'm a fenerly onus a big different
Starting point is 00:51:11 I'm like a certain in a signer in ignore it, fenelelerns meaning
Starting point is 00:51:18 uh... Gozard to Yes. This is But, but the
Starting point is 00:51:23 Unanistan is very a problem we're really a polemic we're especially in 19th
Starting point is 00:51:29 year in the in the name the name the name of Yorga
Starting point is 00:51:34 the Byzant's from Byzantzance of the The United States' year's in the first year's in the enormous neoclasism in the neoclassism in there,
Starting point is 00:51:43 in Byzant, actually, in the United States' year's second year's in the second year's in the first year's in the world paradigm's, and in Romania, and Yunnanistan, but these people, Byzantzance, like, Osmani, like, imperialist, they're so much undertakleadig for, this kind of otherkite-eatrilla,
Starting point is 00:52:02 and they're military-devlet, France's-A hacklamation hit-elming city-cler are also a very important
Starting point is 00:52:09 factor, I'm probably, but this isssilic movement to get to be under, it's much, I'm, especially,
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm in particular, because, Osmali-Nus- because, Osmali-Tar-Lis when-Nellarlars about aboutsetting aboutsettin'n we're saying,
Starting point is 00:52:24 the same, the same, the same, the rum-fes-D the term-Mas-D under, But, especially the new Fenner Lins, in Istanbul in life, new Federlian-dened-Nus,
Starting point is 00:52:32 like, kind of fenerly, ailerle, in the Ussmala's in the Umbudsman-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-inism in in-in'-in'nation in-in'-lawinging. Here, as, Ahmed Ceddette, the, actually, the thing, the thing,
Starting point is 00:52:44 the thing, and, for, the sherry-lety, but, sort of a lot-lust-a-old in a very place to be a certain way to in-a-larsed-a-lars-a-old, this artismmeremeremeremeremerement, because,
Starting point is 00:52:55 that there Osmandan in the people are not in the people are in the people are in
Starting point is 00:53:01 their in their in their sort of term it's termination it's actually a
Starting point is 00:53:07 really a in fact and it's really it's an out of the first bergelerer
Starting point is 00:53:12 and we know it and this and this quite in this quite a kind of
Starting point is 00:53:17 kind of kind of and it and it and it and the and then
Starting point is 00:53:22 it's it also here we're talking actors, Genitjherner, the
Starting point is 00:53:26 Boston's the time, the first Robert Walsh's three in Istanbul, in the in the
Starting point is 00:53:34 European and the terms of the fact of the time of back from because
Starting point is 00:53:40 the Ottoman himself in the time in the time in the one year
Starting point is 00:53:45 in the part of everybody and everybody and the himmary mecansal
Starting point is 00:53:49 and in some in be, so good networked that they're, they're,
Starting point is 00:53:55 they're they're in their way, they're in the way of the time of the fact of the , I'm not,
Starting point is 00:54:03 the Ussis people, he's, and, you know, and the diplomacy, it's all, when that, that's all over those,
Starting point is 00:54:11 actually, I think, the, thing, really, the thing, really, really,
Starting point is 00:54:14 the, the, the, the, the, the, and the, the,
Starting point is 00:54:17 the, the, matter, really, So, 1821 and in the 1826 Crillness,
Starting point is 00:54:23 2nd Mahmuth and Tanzimata-giden Yulun and this with, you know, with the thing, with the year,
Starting point is 00:54:29 and the year of the times of course, I'm actually, maybe the Ottoman's year's the first year,
Starting point is 00:54:33 the very one of one of the time of the partishment and the end-etkies, this music-e
Starting point is 00:54:41 and collections and the art-tarrief in Fenerlii the Fenerlii-O-D Kvarmininin, It's again, or, or, or,
Starting point is 00:54:50 totally yoked or a specific in a very specific ballam to and I'm a big big part is the
Starting point is 00:54:56 point of, we're, we're in, we're in using with our book in and the in the
Starting point is 00:55:03 faner yot fenerly, sanat art of history, or, or, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:55:09 I'm, I'm, certainly, I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm talking,
Starting point is 00:55:13 I'm saying, the provenance messess, For example, usually, especially, a very a very common way to get, so termination for the termination whence is order to
Starting point is 00:55:23 whence the correctal when you're in, this time, this timelammally, that's the way, that's quite, could make, here.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Here, maybe, maybe, maybe, new, the, you know, in the, in the, post-Bizans,
Starting point is 00:55:36 to make, year, like, vizance-s- don't, or, the, the,
Starting point is 00:55:40 get-mene- opportunity, maybe, more, more, there, It's a betteredable, it's in,
Starting point is 00:55:45 in Rombia's in terms of using it, they're in particular cultureal in the world, actually, because they're
Starting point is 00:55:53 in the old-in-Ca- American-Mask dedic-N-E 17-year-on- -son-un- in-office- a new-Ewe, actually,
Starting point is 00:55:59 fenerlerler, basically, on the fact-euro and we're in the, in the 18th year-I-
Starting point is 00:56:06 really, too true-tap-lian- I'm, I don't, but, it's-in- it-l-one, Bere-one,
Starting point is 00:56:11 Nessnes, it's in a way and it's a way. Mekanlar the way very,
Starting point is 00:56:16 maybe a very a special their and the provenance not much not much
Starting point is 00:56:21 not much it's, he's really, it's true, it. Like, Boazza
Starting point is 00:56:27 gittin's, the Boaz's the time, the time, on the other thing in the
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