Ottoman History Podcast - Osmanlı ve Türkiye Sanayileşme Tarihi

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

Görkem Akgöz Sunucu: Can Gümüş | Bu bölümde Dr. Görkem Akgöz’ün 2025 Hagley Prize in Business History ödülünü alan “In the Shadow of War and Empire Industrialisation, Nation-Building, and Working-Class Politics in Turkey” başlıklı kitabı üzerine konuşuyoruz. Akgöz’ün “Türk Manchester”ı olarak bilinen Bakırköy Bez Fabrikası’nı Osmanlı döneminde kuruluşundan itibaren odağa alan araştırması devletçiliği yalnızca bir kalkınma modeli değil, emek ve sınıf ilişkilerini yeniden kuran bir siyasal proje olarak düşünmeye davet ediyor. Erken Cumhuriyet Türkiye’sinde fabrika işçisi olmanın ne anlama geldiğini tartıştığımız bu sohbette, dilekçeler ve talepler üzerinden şekillenen aktif emek siyasetinin, devletin idealize ettiği düzen ile fabrikanın gerçekliği arasındaki gerilimleri nasıl açığa çıkardığını ele alıyoruz. Bu bağlamda, nostaljik anlatıların ötesine geçip erken Cumhuriyet sanayileşmesini disiplin, kontrol ve müzakere ekseninde sorgularken, Osmanlı ve Türkiye sanayi kapitalizminin gelişimi hakkında yeni sorular soruyoruz. Bölümün sonunda ise Akgöz’ün arşiv ve yazıyla kurduğu ilişkinin tarihsel düşünme ve anlatımını nasıl dönüştürdüğüne değiniyoruz. « Click for More »

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community, in the fact, aque, actually, of the authority, and authority

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mucadela I'm doing this. So, I think, I think, a bantado a kaiyes

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that, the same those you're all general these, in the Aprilkki

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work in the company in the company in the company if a party uiesies, if two two times,

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the syndicate how much, and the same also, ustabach with the fabrica muddurryly and how

the other in a act-cruing up, with one- and each year in the Sendicada this

and the that's in the way of the people in the work in the way of the way of the

workercial-sacement and how complicated and how much cut-upac-out a cut-and- a process about what that's

all the other, I've got-and- I've got- and I'm but, but we've got- the part of

I, especially the end-Sendik time-Tar-Tard times certainly life-in-mudelel about-kind

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