Ottoman History Podcast - Osmanlı’nın Bağdat’taki Son Yılları

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

Emine Şahin Sunucu: Can Gümüş | Bağdat, Osmanlı İmparatorluğu için coğrafi uzaklığına rağmen merkezî idarenin vazgeçilmez vilayetlerinden biriydi. Tanzimat’tan itibaren bu ...önem, yalnızca askerî güvenlik veya sınır politikalarıyla sınırlı kalmadı; idarî modernleşme, ekonomik düzenlemeler ve toplumsal kontrol mekanizmalarının uygulandığı başlıca laboratuvarlardan biri haline geldi. II. Meşrutiyet’in ilanı ise bu denemeleri daha iddialı, daha sert ve daha merkezî bir siyasi programa dönüştürdü. Bu bölümde, Dr. Emine Şahin’le birlikte 1908–1917 arasında Bağdat’ta Osmanlı idaresinin dönüşümünü inceliyoruz. Merkezileşme politikalarının sahada nasıl uygulandığını, hangi aktörler aracılığıyla yürütüldüğünü ve yerel toplum tarafından nasıl karşılandığını tartışıyoruz. « Click for More »

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Autumn Ministry podcast's I'm Jan Goumish. Today's Duke University, Tarrief Volume, Aritim, Uynessy, Dr. Eminey-Shahin. Thank you, Emily. Thank you, Dr. Shahin with. Today, Dr. Shahinne, in 2024-year-in-in-year-in-in-old Ottoman-a-Datting son years,
Starting point is 00:00:32 in the second-mechrutuett-dunem in Baghdad-to-Ozmanlii-I-I-Rishthares. Emine, in two-mechrutti-Net in Osmani-initment, how'd? Ombudsaw-interned, what-the-actorsed? This ishaught-interned about it, sohpetimists, but general a figure-vermerected in baddhatt-Vilayetian-I-I-I-Earcese and and the management zigniating
Starting point is 00:00:51 for the realtyeces, nelighter, let us. Let's say this. Badaat Vilayette balked we're in, actually, osmanly
Starting point is 00:00:59 in the think of the thought of a way of course metaphor as a lot of a lot of means,
Starting point is 00:01:09 Iraq and Badaat used. So, like, uh, soaaa and in Badaat.
Starting point is 00:01:14 But, back time, this time, this the Middle Dohawnan a snor-comfusus, a, a new-day-upist a way-of-and-a-simgelless but,
Starting point is 00:01:23 idari-in-an-as-man, in the in the heart-o-o-n't- in-the-art-o- part-a-lis-a- one. I mean, a perifery on, because
Starting point is 00:01:32 the geography from, a-kerect and, a-ir-Nihri-Nihri-Nihri- -nir-art, a part-tarm-lick-as-earned an area, a-snir-sign-lis-old It's a lot of control
Starting point is 00:01:42 had been a place. This is then, you know, like this time, this periferi algues, this
Starting point is 00:01:49 usactly algues, actually the there's, but it'shary in mind, but in the 18th year from PEDAR,
Starting point is 00:01:55 pey, feteed about about Badaat, especially, the 19th year from back to about, baddad
Starting point is 00:02:00 a lot much a very point to looksel. So, I mean, the Iraq, in Iraq, in, you
Starting point is 00:02:04 in the classed, we're, Baghdad, actually, Eshitsler Arrists in the first-in-over-cumand-lawing. One-year-old-cumand-lawing. Then, 13-co-old-cumand-lundly,
Starting point is 00:02:15 again, the same way, merquez-olde in bad-Datine in order. So, in other other places, order, Oortadoon,
Starting point is 00:02:22 an important Middle-O-Nan through, you know, suveh can't be able, over, and the other than before other than,
Starting point is 00:02:30 but, but the, but the both-Lectsard-Nazer is very a place a place. Because,
Starting point is 00:02:33 this is in Englander in the indistana a lot of one of the one of the point in the
Starting point is 00:02:38 reason why there's also more than we're going to but it's also important valalieling where we're
Starting point is 00:02:45 going to and in the in the in the government and we're looking we're looking a lot of
Starting point is 00:02:53 a lot of especially in this reason why this is the reason why the indary amount of a little too
Starting point is 00:02:59 a little too a lot of Baghdad. And, especially this miscarly after the Baghdad's in the Uyraan,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the Uruk in, the URAC in the URAC does it, because there's actually verymly and farmally, a lot of
Starting point is 00:03:16 sulomaily a part of the time. This is then there's an orderly in the second MISR
Starting point is 00:03:21 and a time in Badaat Valiiiiiiiii, this generally as general as we're in the U.S. the U.S.
Starting point is 00:03:26 the U.S. U.S. it was an Baghdad. You, actually, a little bit a lot of Osmannedly
Starting point is 00:03:32 government's time in the badat administration the things more easily about a little more
Starting point is 00:03:37 before, tanzimat and second ablomit time maybe might be able. This these don't
Starting point is 00:03:42 about it. About it, about it about it. You know, actually, you're just, you've been
Starting point is 00:03:47 a marketeachment giveishment. Mercealceeachm in every time in three don't know one of three times.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Merkezeelection a work also, the, actually, some, the marketelection to be a different
Starting point is 00:03:57 coverish are every time. These how much would? And I'm the second Mechrutuette
Starting point is 00:04:01 in the baddard indaries how ever said. Tanzimat time in a mercee
Starting point is 00:04:07 chabasm there, we know us which 1830 from it's about about and it
Starting point is 00:04:12 baudat vileat vallies and and the balililers and the balsomat reformers
Starting point is 00:04:17 after after after actually termions in 1839 in 1839 in 1839 termin in badat
Starting point is 00:04:23 to in baddatt to It was possible It was possible in other vilayette's in different times in Baddatt to
Starting point is 00:04:27 in 1850s in it it's in factimate reformed we're there's. There are valer's a chabalial
Starting point is 00:04:35 and nafial and vilaiety calcundur and Namuk Paa and Takyyuttypah and Guzzluclii
Starting point is 00:04:41 Pasha and some valilers there are but very very vali giving deveree actually
Starting point is 00:04:46 1869 in 1869 in 1869 in badat Vilaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii get to Mittat-Pha Tanzent
Starting point is 00:04:53 reformers and, here, Tanzimat's father as a person, Mithat-Pashan in Badat Vilayat in in a lot of oldcuhon a slat-challishments
Starting point is 00:05:01 and reform-challings. One case, first, first, the vilayet-nizam-namesi and deveree, and Vailet-Nismanmesi, and, I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:08 Osman's own during, the time, the, I'm, the, I'm, a-lis-o- and-Mach-San-A-Sach-a- and Nahiya
Starting point is 00:05:14 in. After the toprak reform, you know, the Arazi canunnamess use, and Mittat-Pasha
Starting point is 00:05:20 actually a use of a use of course, and it's a lot of making, Mittat-Pashel with it
Starting point is 00:05:26 there, but this Mittat-Pash with an part-and- also the part-and- people who people who
Starting point is 00:05:33 not, the, and in-of-sach- -sach-of-as- in-a- new, a new- top-reforma- order-to-
Starting point is 00:05:38 put you. And, a merqueshilech-eishme challenge in the we're sure this. Tanzimate
Starting point is 00:05:43 this is, yes, valilers and their legions and hathletes backlick, the same same way
Starting point is 00:05:51 is going to mean, the marquisite indirees, there's there's not getting any of the
Starting point is 00:05:58 authority, the d'Ares, the valilers in reale there's being a marcealelishmah from,
Starting point is 00:06:03 Badaatat. The 2th Abduomit D'emmint in the second Abdullumitin generally a kind of a
Starting point is 00:06:08 personal yet-each-an-lawy and there. And, that's the Basra Vilayetit Bursa-gible unites.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So, every vilaiet kind of has cricklery and, kind of house-is- getting
Starting point is 00:06:19 really to think it, and this also, Badaat Vilat Vilaiety a very a great-Merkech
Starting point is 00:06:26 policy to take it. The 2nd Abdu-Numut time in the beginning such like, so like,
Starting point is 00:06:30 the Balkan-Lak with a great-of- top-gob-ya- and arap- vilayetler, a little a position
Starting point is 00:06:36 to usellar. This is the Arab vililaiety the right and the proletters, Valdi,
Starting point is 00:06:43 but, but the tanzimat time and this time, the exhraff, he'll
Starting point is 00:06:50 this actually actually, the dahlia nezarting, the adhallye nezarting, and
Starting point is 00:06:55 ma'aean and in tajra ars and direct a reason why because, because,
Starting point is 00:07:00 2th, Abduimit should I think I mean we can't we're able able to
Starting point is 00:07:04 in the part of the in a kind of a kind of a big mutelical, there's
Starting point is 00:07:10 more to cause to surqueque and the otherkla and ashraf with sure and ashrapp
Starting point is 00:07:17 and drawl and the problem to get to the problem and it and any any kind of
Starting point is 00:07:23 sort of in any any sort of when he's the vali of the vali of
Starting point is 00:07:27 taking it like it like a political take up. This is, this, kind of a
Starting point is 00:07:32 past a sub-ir- policy is a time in a year-year-old ought to say it's much, a bit of course
Starting point is 00:07:39 we're in aft when we'reaute in the second-o-Mut time in, in a shiretel in ushabiling sawlanding that we're making,
Starting point is 00:07:47 we're not there are, but other times times we're going to we're castling we're making, we're making us,
Starting point is 00:07:55 we're making, we're making, and one of One of the vallelder in, in the Badaat-Vilayat in the way of course, a lot of autonomy-curemberg, too, Abdulyt. This is, this ishraff with a close-temas-cruy. And eshraffin-doin-doin-lawness in this way. Second-mechruti-diet-dunement-in to getchaucing in Bahad-Vilayet in,
Starting point is 00:08:21 here, there's a tanzimata-dunuch-politicisman politics in It's true we're going to show them we need to say We need a second-mechiorate-duneration, I'm going to know, 2009-19-17 years-ar-arers. Now, this time, yek-pare-by-your-government we're eke-pare-by-law. 19-19-10-farkly. 12-de-13-the-farkly.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Because, kimis-in, IITATTERC, in-TRAQi-Gemieti-in-ment, kimim-in-a-pals-durma-old and during, and 19-13-sa, actually, time, actually, in the time a act of
Starting point is 00:08:50 this time this time this kind of a lot of we're not we're not
Starting point is 00:08:55 we're not we're in we're in the second mechrut time in the management time in the
Starting point is 00:09:01 time in the valilelel policy policy in badat village and this reason and the country to
Starting point is 00:09:08 muctedir valilary genish harker and imtislar and generally and generally these valil
Starting point is 00:09:14 these valilar asker kokes and this is the second order of the Badaat Vali, they're together
Starting point is 00:09:20 run with them. Kim, they're a couple example, Husein Nazim-Pasham. Ardindind, he's very much knowned-of-Pach-Pash-an
Starting point is 00:09:28 one one thing, Cemalpa-Pas, who ismerely, Suley-Nazif, gonders, so, the time, the time, the time,
Starting point is 00:09:36 and the, bad-at-vilat Vailateh to, genish yetkkieled and got into and here, and here, the first thing,
Starting point is 00:09:42 the shraffin'n grueinging churned, especially, I'd, Iraqi community in planed in the
Starting point is 00:09:48 time. Eshrafing the un-planned what are they're doing they're doing they're
Starting point is 00:09:51 they're they're in they're doing they're and they're doing they're and they're so far,
Starting point is 00:09:58 Arab-Milieter people, and yeah, this policy and they're doing they're they're in a mercealely
Starting point is 00:10:05 and memurlar and emmurals and the and ashrafing under how much they're how much
Starting point is 00:10:09 they're much they're there, this partishable there are actually actifelel they're
Starting point is 00:10:14 but at the Ural Mejristers, the vali's care-verme gettysin art-y-laws. This is also here in a shraff-la, muter-an-an-a-chatishma yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Thank you. Actually, in the different actors, especially, sheff-lo-old, especially, uh, and the,
Starting point is 00:10:30 um, marquisie-is-I-lis-lis- that-is-est-ed-lis-lis-lis-a-lis-lis-a-lis-lis-a-lis-lis-a-lundersersersers-old, and other we're we're in this
Starting point is 00:10:46 the time, the time in the particular chattisement, I'm in, I'm in the term, I'm, I'm in the
Starting point is 00:10:53 time with, abdumit time with, the, the real chattisement to do the practicals and the
Starting point is 00:10:59 final of the one of the time is, the TETKi Tensikat Commission. What is this commission?
Starting point is 00:11:04 This commission bureaucracy, bureaucracy, Rekek and and the community, under
Starting point is 00:11:08 us the decicicat given isimler in the same passive-ed getting in we're in
Starting point is 00:11:17 we're in the second-mehustate-dunem in the plan-sicely in particular, 19-19-t time in itibar back, we're
Starting point is 00:11:24 making, we're consul-in-and- second-A-dol- time in-sid-a-d government-in-a-sit- more-the-lis-a-lety a system order to put me-
Starting point is 00:11:36 and that's and that's-eckety- people-and-a- in-mmimurriety- and bureaucracy-temes temislemey I'm trying. But,
Starting point is 00:11:43 sure there's a community, a good community, and I'm in the Uzzalachmich
Starting point is 00:11:50 time with being in some some of some of the people, why because Ithat Teraki
Starting point is 00:11:55 community has a sub-suette and yetish element, yetish element, he's not, the old,
Starting point is 00:12:02 the end up going to be a case in, again, hepsi with, hepsi with, I'm,
Starting point is 00:12:07 with a new regime order to make, new a new regime order to make it very
Starting point is 00:12:10 quite quite going to them in back in 2009 in 2009 in 2009 in the baddett
Starting point is 00:12:15 in a statekeeky tenisicat commusion and mercecee a national
Starting point is 00:12:20 there are in the general some there are nine years and
Starting point is 00:12:25 topal 181 people and I'm I'm perhaps I'm
Starting point is 00:12:29 on the one of the first middell whether it and or if irate
Starting point is 00:12:32 either or either or other any other Actually, Tensikat Deftery,
Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm rassleding the first time Gondh end up. I mean, we, Badaat Vilayetina, a tensikat deftary there.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I've been not seen. This is also very important people are we're doing with what's the government and
Starting point is 00:12:55 why we're doing and why we're going to bea such, irtikap and bachshish, fisk and Iyshlet,
Starting point is 00:13:02 age-lick like a, a certain people, what are what means, what are most,
Starting point is 00:13:06 most, unlicable, our listeners for our lives. Of course. I mean, kind of so much,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but heuching has made, bachishish al-and-as- and rush-ed- and, you know, alcohol-culled for-as-lick
Starting point is 00:13:16 and ay-yash-lick a-as-lick, a-as-lake- thesemere-est-lis- and-sim-lis-lis--er-sut- and mutas-riff-a-lis-lis-lis-er-sut-er-surlis-er-sru-lis-er-srued There are, like, a long list of. But, it's interesting thing
Starting point is 00:13:28 is there. Second-mechudite-dunem-unit-duneration, tasvi-ed-atted people. Especially, I-age-like-old-un-suelly-surelough-sureloughed one-suelly-suelly-suebothered. Aynne-Simbering, the same-the-mechut-duneruneration, the same way we're doing. Meshther-Therakki-Gem-Eat-Therakki-Gemieting
Starting point is 00:13:47 in, bad-lawed, Baghdad from, at the center of telegraphs Gondered, and Fahimbech-shek-ed-ed-died-ed-lid-lid. Why, in Ramadan-a-alkal and cigarette-culled for, you know, actually, actually,
Starting point is 00:13:59 the one-suredue, the reason is that one-one's one thing, and interesting way, and every other other side, the same time,
Starting point is 00:14:06 the same, you're saying as you're saying like, actually a, actually a, actually, a good-n-n- in-n-n-n-n-
Starting point is 00:14:13 -in-in-in- in-law-eat-V-V-I-Eight in and 19-13-14-to-de-cada-cada-down-in-by-hocic-cris. Because, it's a-dava-a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hack-a-ha-hack-a-ha-hack-a-ha-hack-a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-a-old. Hatt-a-old, even-a-law-a-a-old, you know, in-19-old, in-law-a-law-a-old, in-olde, in-law-a-law-a-law-law-a-law-a-law-law-a-old. Yereral-a-a-old, and this commission-a-law-old, and,
Starting point is 00:14:41 Istanbul from notamah because Nazimpache this when he's sort of you know how much
Starting point is 00:14:45 kind of kind of kind of kind of sort of I'm there's and I'm
Starting point is 00:14:50 very much good enough and yetkiel given and there's and 180 181 people
Starting point is 00:14:57 again give over this a great a crisis hasatio because Hussain
Starting point is 00:15:02 Nazim Pacia a a little after a question over over this time
Starting point is 00:15:06 this time they're they're they're they're but the commission
Starting point is 00:15:10 has been able and this and all all over all different we're we're asked
Starting point is 00:15:16 we're asking Mr. Hussain-ferit a bit of 1913 about the davas surdh
Starting point is 00:15:21 there's another Abdurizak there was 1912 13 years in in 1912
Starting point is 00:15:25 13 years and he's and he given us and we can't you know this
Starting point is 00:15:30 and this consulmation and he's there and also we have we all
Starting point is 00:15:34 we're in this this in this some there is So, I mean, this tasphere in,
Starting point is 00:15:41 this hockey problems, actually the defiant is actually the fact of the in the way of it. Actually, inzer practices
Starting point is 00:15:50 in the anzimat in the time in, Abdulemit in the time in the second-mechutriot in-dunement to do it is also
Starting point is 00:15:55 interesting. I think it the book of the end-in- bad-Dat-initle- while, especially, the,
Starting point is 00:16:01 out-in-and- one-and-the- Ashrafing-Netimd and the top-lom-o-o-o-lety- role. Of, Eshraff, actually, Mercise-Ilechme
Starting point is 00:16:09 in time, a turnic into problem as long as time-z-a-dell a, a co-operation un-usur as a group. You, this,
Starting point is 00:16:19 this time, the time of the issue, how do you can't, in the second-mechrutiate in-Badat in. And, also,
Starting point is 00:16:27 also, the, I-T-C-C-in- whereforeforeforefore what, and do you can't give-lisies. And,
Starting point is 00:16:34 this don't, you, to You've mentioned, Millietchility in the time, this year's year's
Starting point is 00:16:39 year's in the first of the millietchel in the community in where in the
Starting point is 00:16:45 badat Vylat Vilayat elit first who's kind of we're
Starting point is 00:16:49 about about Vodat Vilaiety in in the community in the community,
Starting point is 00:16:55 a kind of a kind of kind of kind of or a kind of
Starting point is 00:17:00 and the tucer on them actually mooteperan and on plan and
Starting point is 00:17:04 Eshraf of going to get us. The one the end the end
Starting point is 00:17:06 the same and we're the top part of the acybal al-asas al-asas al-a-asas
Starting point is 00:17:13 there, Abduu-Haw Rudey there, this ismns plan to the end-planner, and the
Starting point is 00:17:20 community-in-Nufus with, I mean, Seid-A-M-P-Ram- like, on-P-L-Lap and a-lety and
Starting point is 00:17:26 very top-lark and so-P-L-L-D-E-Sadel like, this way, this kind of, on plan an eshraff
Starting point is 00:17:31 so question. Now, Eshraf with the general the authority of
Starting point is 00:17:36 and the and the and the management with the people in the people's
Starting point is 00:17:42 the and it's the the valian the the policy. So,
Starting point is 00:17:47 the so it is a fact, the of the and, the
Starting point is 00:17:51 and, the soooment and, in, the the community,
Starting point is 00:17:55 the the world, the And we've, you know, the kitap to mostly say,
Starting point is 00:18:01 Baghdalalern sound of course. But here, there's too mutereran casted over. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:06 the same amount demiselsels about, we're talking, we're talking about, we're talking, we're doing, actually,
Starting point is 00:18:14 this time, this time, the second mehutriot -dunement, this, the relationship, not,
Starting point is 00:18:19 but, it's, it's, it's, a bit of, a bit of, Look, we're saying, Seid Abduramaan's Gerevon's in order,
Starting point is 00:18:26 the head header's going to gorevelde, again a beledi, Azizade Issa, goreveverver, but these things, the same time, and devisabuk
Starting point is 00:18:35 time when, and a type of imtisement, and yetchialer, I mean, the new, merceiietchichich policy to,
Starting point is 00:18:43 a great-doch over-out-of- a record. This is, this is different communities are making They're going to show them.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Now, I'm going to 1908, the community community, we're not. Because, that's a Arab-Miliatechility unlawishy not. So, the first. Meshver,
Starting point is 00:18:59 Meshver, called, in a year, in a while, inklaping in elaned in this a couple of years in the community
Starting point is 00:19:07 in the community community's, the actual am I the Arab-Miliateshieling or so much or like a araplar-related a plan or a new
Starting point is 00:19:15 and a project actually. The community's intersendeked the government's the same the same
Starting point is 00:19:20 the time and 1912 in 1912 in it's in Arab-Nliate to over eviling a year-of-
Starting point is 00:19:29 emissiar community after fernicicic furqqqq there in this time. And then Hurriette
Starting point is 00:19:35 and itelaf fricassina part of it. And sounnook and the chraffin on the
Starting point is 00:19:39 insimlerin in the friolara in the fri-o- they're they're in the
Starting point is 00:19:44 And the people who arelicly on them, is, the frugals to make the furs, we're in the Arab
Starting point is 00:19:50 millietchik kimlii in 1912 it's in especially Ennadul Vatunil Ilmi called in a
Starting point is 00:19:57 cultural culture in Turkish to a community with actually more a plan to we're going
Starting point is 00:20:03 we're using. Solemn't the Arab-Ulusu and a, localesal aubesal
Starting point is 00:20:07 a Arab Militchillie, first, I'm Iraq and the Adatl and Iraqulul the word
Starting point is 00:20:11 words using. I mean, Osmanly Wattanda being in other than a Iraqly
Starting point is 00:20:16 in particular in 1912 it in 1912 and after and in 1913 to we're in Paris Barish
Starting point is 00:20:23 Congress and the Arablar in the Paris Barish Congress and then the Arablar and
Starting point is 00:20:27 the Arablar and after the firstakil during the World War's in 1914th. This Arab
Starting point is 00:20:36 community in the Islamieting together toplaner And, now, the Ottomanly with a future
Starting point is 00:20:41 and they're and that's a very a good state, a particular, a very a issue in getting into into
Starting point is 00:20:48 we're doing. This is a little bit of al-Agh community, there is Aissel Al-Misri who is a
Starting point is 00:20:57 community. This is the community, the bestee baddatted subayers were, especially.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Azizeli al-Misri is actually Osmond's actually Osmanda an government than a different government, a different,
Starting point is 00:21:06 a federal a government, a, Arab-devlete a government-like a government to create, I'm in the
Starting point is 00:21:10 great-Nepar-Lew actually it, but the First-Dun-Sawash when the First-Dun-Sawash when, the A-Rap-alachan thinking and a-is-ion-
Starting point is 00:21:18 and signallers and they're and the people, and the people are, the group of us, top-lake-all- about us,
Starting point is 00:21:26 we're in-N-19-1-17 around-send-ir- interfaith relationship and Arab-Millietchility's denou, Merceal-Eleashment policy on, in 1912, especially Balkan-Arbis
Starting point is 00:21:39 on the second, a Arab-Miliate-in ever-inish-in in, Bahad, Vailet in. Of, Merce-Ileashmend talking,
Starting point is 00:21:47 ashertellate- in, or the country-boh- in-the-the- community-as-as- -a-lis-a-lis- -lis-a-lis-lis-
Starting point is 00:21:55 more-lis-cap-lis-lis- and, we're a lot of ushraf in the way of the head of time assyrettler cooperated and
Starting point is 00:22:04 time in time time in isla and iskihan chabbalarer and rather than bad at badgat in the second-mechutiet
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Starting point is 00:22:28 management the assyrettler under the thing is the the same the end of the same thing, the reason why
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Starting point is 00:25:29 actually actually valilering policy in the community, in general really a reality and and 10-Temus
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Starting point is 00:25:48 Iirinin general in Aririnininininin and about 10 15 Badaat Shepherding they're, they're hilaeat giederlyly.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And this big a resmy gethits to catulmalae. Cemalpacha, this time, I'm doing we're because he's not much. Cemalbeye,
Starting point is 00:26:04 he's doing it so it's sure so we're going the telegraphs we're going to talkviourn't it to make to make sure,
Starting point is 00:26:12 such a bayram getting to say it's going to. It's a big mebla is, it's a bunche and it's long sure you
Starting point is 00:26:19 but in the end the sonn't Jamal Pacha it's really So, I'm in assyretes
Starting point is 00:26:23 arisendings and the chattisement and the chattisletler and the government to bring up
Starting point is 00:26:30 a sun-yoll denmess on plan in this time. One, the a shirestit
Starting point is 00:26:37 issue, the dengel also, an one one one, there, Shammarber
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Starting point is 00:26:50 Reislii'i'i almasi, the Ottoman-mercei-i-i-iardisly. And, why? I mean, why, a shiret reisler in this the wargoye and reisly and, because he's a kind of
Starting point is 00:27:01 his name, this way, he's back to be a government, and a government's saddick a man, and also, and the chattishmuller's
Starting point is 00:27:08 a lot of trying to, and he's having a other a other other reason is, there, he's still,
Starting point is 00:27:13 in Istanbul, I'm Turkish-C-Billy and Osmanly and the people with people and also this
Starting point is 00:27:19 actually, a shirate in the dengelae in the administrative administration. Emniieti
Starting point is 00:27:26 generally in 1998, 19-17 years in when we're inundered yeah, a kind of
Starting point is 00:27:32 actually, there's, because the work- un-erget- there are, sometimes, certain-mudelel
Starting point is 00:27:37 do it always. Sulk-you- absolutely. I, just, that, um, the sum-and-
Starting point is 00:27:41 not-and- a-and- But it's actually. But, but Sulf yoller's the dened we're doing it. So,
Starting point is 00:27:46 or we, here's, we're in this time and we're not much, we're not much, we're not, because the
Starting point is 00:27:53 exhietler, the government, the government, the government, the government, the authority to keep me, and they're
Starting point is 00:27:59 going to, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, there's, there's,
Starting point is 00:28:04 there's, there's actually, but, but, generally around we're, but, eminieting,
Starting point is 00:28:09 the, rule with sawlan to be sure because askerial yetorses because of
Starting point is 00:28:12 the time the time we're in talking about sohbetimies we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:28:19 doing sohurt history, the ethnic arimals or ethnic shiddlet connors and actually also very
Starting point is 00:28:25 very much a couple of years but one year but in a lastada in the in the
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Starting point is 00:28:35 lookish-backish-getten, all these in the situation, the world and people are sign-in-law-actors, it's very new-lix work out of course.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You, too, the Merce-Cheveran-anil analysis, but this mercea-in-er- back-sac- worker-sac-lilater with the literature-lis-lis-lis-lis-lis-lis-lis-lisdolmis. Tarii-Tarry
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Starting point is 00:29:26 the time of the time of the time in the time in even in the in the time in the telegraphs,
Starting point is 00:29:32 myself, we have some really a very much, we have, and ashralfing and eshrafing said what we're
Starting point is 00:29:39 doing things. Bilay-tari in the in, maybe very perspectively a backish servilement chabasinday.
Starting point is 00:29:45 This reason this is, this Arab-C can't even for very very very
Starting point is 00:29:50 actor too much one of the part of the Arab Militcher's community in the
Starting point is 00:29:56 actually the the same his name Mr. Abdurassik Effend, Hseim
Starting point is 00:30:00 Ferit way, like, so we also also that's a different
Starting point is 00:30:05 perspective is also also also the American, Arab Militchility
Starting point is 00:30:10 in Arab-Mil in inutability in in the Arab
Starting point is 00:30:15 Militial and this iser this general paradigm to come up Iraq and Baghdad
Starting point is 00:30:20 under baddad under a military people and this realeat community in the first world
Starting point is 00:30:25 in the kind of getting to not much and it's very much a lot of Iraq,
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'm a local general Arab militieler over yeah a
Starting point is 00:30:35 but a general 1913 it's in 1913 it in the general Arab
Starting point is 00:30:40 community community to be there's a lot part this this
Starting point is 00:30:44 this is this And that's important. I mean, the actors about the community in the
Starting point is 00:30:49 community in the community in the community's in 1920 after the Arab government and the world of
Starting point is 00:30:56 and the world of course, the worldodon unashalmation in the eser iser also very very much
Starting point is 00:31:04 very much thank you. Thank you. Baghdad is actually very important a lot in Osmanlii
Starting point is 00:31:08 for the people, but Arab militiachility in the World War Civil War in the Civilistricks' in a sense of a lot
Starting point is 00:31:15 of the same shuddetty and then, you know, the state of the state, and, actually, Kurt-Miliatechlii in the country is in the important, a lot. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:24 that's a lot of a part of the part of us. Thank you. I'm thank you. I'd like it. I'm a lot of it. The Othamonistsy
Starting point is 00:31:35 in this volume in the program in the Dr. Emine Shahin with us. Mayshavena from Osmannedna's last yearl in the second
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Starting point is 00:31:52 This question, who are more more to talk about, for the Ottoman History podcast's web
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Starting point is 00:32:03 you, keep at me, and be the next podcast to get to get to see
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