Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #100 Janette Bertrand | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

Janette est une femme exceptionnelle. Oui, elle a 100 ans, mais ce n’est pas ce qui la distingue. Janette nous apprend sur la vie depuis plus de 75 ans. Elle partage sa curiosité pour l’humain qu’elle tente toujours de comprendre dans le moindre recoin. Dans cet épisode, elle aborde entre autres l’évolution des femmes, la sexualité, l’amour, la passion et la confiance en soi. Tout cela avec convictions et humour. On a ri, on a pleuré et on a appris.Merci Janette🩷━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:25:37 - Cartes vertes00:39:11 - Cartes jaunes00:57:58 - Cartes rouges01:27:13 - Cartes Eros01:37:46 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 85 cliniques.

Because for years, a woman, in the marriage contract, it wasn't written, but it was heard, it was happening from father to son, a woman has no right to refuse her husband. She has no right to refuse him. When someone asks for anything, they have to say yes. But it's not true. When you respect someone, you can love someone, and respect her too, respect her consent. When you don someone, you can love someone, and respect them too.

Respect their consent. When you don't want it, you don't want it. I don't want this thing. You don't even have the right to give an explanation. I don't want it. Open Your Game is presented by Karine Jonquard, the reference in skin care materials available in nearly 1,000 pharmacies in Quebec, and the Marie-Claude Club, which is a space dedicated to the best-being,

where you can find more than a hundred masters' classes, led by experts, available on Marie-Claude.com. The table games Open Your Original Game and the Couples Edition are available everywhere in Quebec and on Randolph.ca. We're going there, we're confident. Tell them, tell them about this goal that is so important. And it's been like that all your life. I wouldn't want to go through that. You know. I wouldn't have gone to the movies without her.

She wouldn't have been there. She's really, really, really a beautiful person. I lost everything. She defended me, saved my honor, tried to rebuild my name and beat me up to say, Hey, it's not true, what do you say? I'm not even, it's not true. I love my disease. It wouldn't change things now. That is to say that now I can say,

Samy, for a long time I said to myself, oh, but it must be really cool, normal. We each have our stories, we each have the most difficult moments to go through. Oh my God, I didn't think it would start like that. Barricade! Oh my God! We have... Oh la la la la! Ah, Bella!

Joker! No, no, no! That's it! I want to gain confidence because you're one of the biggest interviewers in Quebec You're laughing a little bit because you're a bit gay What's up, Guetta? Can't you tell me to open the door? So I hate this kid

It's sad, I'm laughing at the same time! But it's sad at the same time! You're in the red box. Well, almost. We're not in the red box. We're not in the red box, but you said the word sexy three times. We're waiting for the red box. Okay, see you later.

15 minutes more, I wouldn't be here with you. You know? So everything that comes after, it's a bonus. We're going to start the game right away, okay? and then comes the bonus. We're going to start the game right now, okay? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Marie-Claude, come on! I had never done that introspection, bitch! Even then, I was afraid he'd die. I had the word. I wanted to say, I love you. And it never came out.

It's emotional when you say that. It's good to love. Hey, you say it! It's good to be yourself, to be, to accept, to respect, to be in his ear. Are you able to tell him you love him? I say it more easily by singing. But there's a lot of impudence at home, but like in many families. It's hard to grab your father in his arms and tell him, I love you. We're in a society where if you get caught, we'll give you a flat.

And we'll say, we don't care if you get caught. But when we get caught, people don't realize. Do you still talk to each other? No. Are you going to talk to each other again? I wish. I wish. Did you do any work for that?

Every year. I was more reserved on my guard. I wouldn't have talked so much 10 years ago. I wouldn't have revealed myself so much. But there's a part of me that does... Indeed, there's someone who will hear that and will do like... Oh, I'm not alone, maybe. I recognize myself in there, and it will… »

« It will help me. » For a woman, we always hear that. « Oh, it's hard for a woman to grow old. » Well, yes, it's true. But there are also words on the right side. Let's put emphasis on that. You look at the others living while you're working your life to be perfect.

It's disgusting, there! I always knew what to do before, you know. I mean, I'm still in a company. I'm able to make decisions. After violence, still in the business, I'm not making decisions. After violence, it's like the thing in my personal life, I'm unable to make decisions. Like that, it stresses me. To say that you are at risk of losing everything.

Yes. That's freedom. I believe so. the So Welcome your host, Marie-Claude Barrette. Good evening everyone! Hey, the world is close! Oh la la! Hello, hello! It's funny because you saw the 99 first guests.

And the first time I'm going to have a guest, the second time, that's right, I like that, well, it's Jeannette. But before she arrives, and you know how stressed I was, I saw her in all the shows, walking around, going to Quebec, like, she won't come, she'll be tired, she'll catch a virus like we all have. She's here! She's here, our beautiful Jeannette.

But before, I have people to thank because we don't have much, two chairs, a table, two microphones, but there are a lot of people through all of this. First, Richard Speer, Marie-Christine Pouliott from Attraction, to whom I associate myself. She gave me U-Mano, who were there from the start, actually, they were there before I quit TVA. We created U-Mano a few months before and we said to ourselves, we're going to do a podcast. Obviously, my start accelerated things because I finished my show on the original version, on Wednesday, and the next Monday at 10pm, it was the first episode with Laurent Paquin. So we didn't waste time.

And since then, well listen, it's not been two years yet, he's made it to the 100th episode. I'm going to salute the Mano gang. Listen, it won't be long, we're not much. That's the digital thing. So, Carolanne, David, Jonathan, Jérémie, and also Jean-Philippe, who is still with us a lot. Thank you. Thank you very much. The post-production, because a walker is a lot of post-production. The sound, the image, Maëlle, Etienne, Etienne, and among other things,

I know there are others, but it's with you that we work daily. Thank you for being there. The guests. Yes, you saw them. There were a lot of them. There are still a lot to come. The guests and their generosity. How many of them are leaving in 10 years? I never thought I would say that. There are still many to come. The guests and their generosity.

There are so many that go by saying, I never thought I would say that. But if they say it, I think it's just because the game does a lot of things, but also because they listened. And that's why we also made the table game. Now there is the regular game and there is the couple game. And two rules, and that's what I'm going to apply with Jeanette, listening and kindness.

Earlier, I had interviews, what is the secret to opening your game? There is no secret. It's just that when you listen, the person in front of you talks. When you interrupt them, they stop talking. So what we try to do with table games is to show that when we stop talking, when we listen for real, we hear the other, and that makes the difference. Obviously, all those who listen to us, who watch us, it was funny because a few weeks ago, a lady told me,

I just realized that I don't have to stay in front of my iPad to watch you. Because she thought that sometimes, after two years, she said, I can move my iPad. She said, I even learned that I can put headphones in my phone and walk without looking. So, yes, that's it. It's mobility, not an iPad, but a podcast.

But I found it funny. Imagine, she was in front of her desk and she wasn't moving. So she can even peel her potatoes, it's not beautiful, but that's also the strength of a podcast. And before introducing the partners, I want to talk about this strength. I know that Lisanne Nadeau is with us tonight. Lisanne participated, it was a great episode. Lisanne, we are currently competing for the best ballad for the galop of influencers. Thank you very much! Thank you very much, that's nice! But what I mean is that oral sex for, is Jeanette Bertrand from modern times.

Because often sexuality is a taboo subject, that we learn a little bit, as we can, in books or on the internet, but to hear you talk about sexuality, and with time you have evolved, you have spoken about sexuality in all its states. Sometimes we are voyeurs, sometimes we learn, and sometimes we learn to understand each other. And I know among other things how much the young people speak of oral sex, but I think beyond the young people, we all have to learn from this podcast, from Lisanne and Johanie. Thank you. Thank you very much. Because in the podcast world, it's a community that supports each other.

There is no competition and that really does you good. And also, I think that Ouvre Ton Jeu is a podcast that connects between generations. To see a young person or a 20-year-old young person stop me to say, Oh yes, you are the daughter of podcasts or Open Your Game. I find that extraordinary. And to see someone who is much older tell me, this person, I wasn't sure, and finally I listened to everything, and it was fine.

It means that we reduce the judgment, and that's important. It's still what makes a big difference when you listen to the other without a taboo. Sometimes we have taboos, but when we listen to it, we stop judging. I think it happened to several people watching Ouvre Ton Jeu. Then, for several people, and I see one who has already told me that it was Thérapeutique, Ouvre Ton Jeu, she's the one who made your little chocolates. I will come to the partners, because we don't have subsidies,

we don't have credit cards, unlike the TV world. You have to be a smuggler in the podcast world. You have to go look for partners, partners who believe in us for real, partners who share the same values. I will introduce you to one of them, because she is the partner of this evening. If we could not invite you tonight, it is thanks to her. She has been there for a very long time. She is a partner of Marie-Club, she is a partner of Ouvre Ton Jeu!

She is a partner of Ouvre Ton Jeu! in studio. I will invite her, because I want you to know her. Karine Jonquard. Karine, we see her everywhere! Your microphone. Wait, she's talking in the dark. We see that. Is it supposed to be open? Yes, it's open. Karine, you do a lot for culture. It's important.

Culture. And it's really, we see Karine Junker everywhere. She has a body, she has a face. Yes, she was produced for skin. Karine, why were you interested from the start to open your game? Well, I think it was natural between you and me too. We had the chance to be on certain stages. And when you called me, it was natural for me.

I think we have a great relationship together. Values, it's true that values are important. When you have success, you have to share success with others. It's my way of supporting culture too. I believe a lot in Mer-Claude! But, you know, Karine, you have a thousand sales points. And when I walk around, among others, in the people around me, and I see representatives, they talk to me, they are proud that those who know you, those who sell products, are proud that you are there.

Do you hear about opening your game? Well, yes, I hear about opening your game. Even I, my daughters are all voting for you. For you too, Lisanne. Yes, Lisanne and I, even you. Yes, we hear about it. As I say, I find it fun with the young people. There's a new Open Your Game. I think you're responding to of the needs of the market. To open your game.

Thank you. Thank you very much. It really makes me... And I think tonight, congratulations for your 100th episode. 100th episode. And I think that with Jeannette Bertrand, it's really a privilege to be here tonight with everyone. Well, it's thanks to you. Thank you very much, Karine. Thank you. You're really an exemplary partner. Thank you, Karine.

We started on TV. I have a project that will be launched on Canal V, which is called Tell Mother,ère, Telle Fille, she was there too. To have people who believe in us, it makes the difference. We also have as partners Eros and Companier, and they put a little surprise in your bag. Don't leave during the evening, okay? Or go to the bathroom, but stay discreet. We're still a bit cocky. We have a new level, you'll see, a new level, a new level, it's not saying it right,

a new blue level tonight, which will be a question for Patreon. Patreon is also a place where we have our channels and we pay for levels. So if we have a week ahead, there is no advertising, and if you want to have small discussions with me that are not necessarily cocky, well, it's another level. So we will talk about that eventually in the podcasts. And the question SPA Eastman will come on the Patreon level.

So these new partners who just arrived, who share the same values. So thank you for believing in us. We also have Optoraiso. Optoraiso really, it was long because we really wanted to do things well. But when they got engaged, it was long-term. So thank you for being there, Optorizo. And you will see in the episode with Anthony Cavana, who will be coming in two weeks, he tried on your glasses, which were in the background.

It was quite... no, but it's over, I lost control. He presented the books, the library. Listen, that's what I like about this podcast. You have to let things go. A partner who is also there for the Marie-Club, who also gave you a gift card, where you could buy things, maybe a coat. Lingerie Emma. So you will see, but Lingerie Emma is an exceptional woman who does things for... We had done the campaign last year, if you remember, I was slightly dressed. That's because of Emma.

But also she has a section for women who had one or two mastectomies. And I find that exceptional. So she's still there. She's there tonight. And she also made you a gift in your bags. And we have here, just remind me your name, Annie. Annie who has an incredible life, now who made you little chocolates, who is a pastry chef who makes incredible cakes, and she wanted to give you a treat. She contacted us and she made you chocolates in the colors of the game. So thank you very much Annie de Luxure Gourmand.

So that's what I wanted to tell you. And now it's the big moment. She is among us. I know she can't wait for it to start. She can't wait to come and sit down. So I invite Jeanette Bertrand. Music Jeannette, you are in front of me. Tell me, with everything that happened during the last weeks, let's say that your centenary was celebrated. Oh yes, really a lot. Really a lot, a lot, a lot. Really, a lot, a lot, a lot. But when I think that it can't come back, it's clear.

That's what I think in my bad thoughts. Even my good thoughts, which I have most of the time, is that it's wonderful, that I didn't think I was loved at that point, that it's extraordinary. My God, I can't believe it, j'en viens juste pas. Puis là comme je suis dans le feu de l'action, je pense que c'est dans un mois ou deux que je vais dire, que je vais là tout repenser à tout ce qui s'est passé. J'arrive de Québec, j'ai eu une médaille qu'on a donné, une médaille de la présidente de l'Assemblée that we gave a medal to the President of the National Assembly,

that we gave to two women only, since it exists. Mrs. Claire Kirkland-Gaughan Casgrain, we give her the right to vote, and me! And who do we owe it to? Bravo! Bravo, Jeannette! Jeannette, I find it extraordinary that you have this recognition now. Do you feel the love of people? Yes, yes.

Do you feel the difference you have made? I find myself so lucky because when you're going to take the 70, be, it's okay, because we're not dead. When we don't do our 70s because we're already dead. So think about that, on that side, it will do you good. But when you think, now I've lost my idea, it's happening to me more and more, I've lost my idea. Lost my idea, what did I mean?

I don't know what you were going to say, I asked you how we took all this from your living. Yes, that's it. We told you that we were... I found my idea. It was not far. When you are 70 years old, there are a lot of people who die between 70 and 80. And then you go to funerals, and there, the poor dead is dead. He's there.

And then, we start to compliment him, but he's not there to hear it. I find that scary. So, Marie-Claude, we start a little business, you and two. Go ahead. We're going to have a kind of new business, compliment people before they die. Well, yes.

Is that good? Before they die. But it's true because the other can hear it. And we can tell them. Yes, we can tell them, listen, I felt that when my father died. My father had a store in Ontario and Frontenac, J.A. Bertrand and his son. Not his daughter? No, not his daughter, his son. And when he died at 87, I didn't know my father was loved like that.

And my father had told me, hey, I want three days. I want three days. I went to funerals, I saw that it lasted three days. We kids, we found that trois jours, tu sais. Parce que tu pleures trois jours de temps. Alors là, quand j'ai vu que mon père, tous ces gens qui venaient dire votre père a fait ci puis a fait ça, j'ai appris des choses sur mon père que je savais pas.

Parce que c'était pas venté de ça. Alors tu sais, c'est... Écoute, faudrait partir... Se rémer le savoir de son vivant. It was not a joke. So, you know, it's... Listen, we should leave this. You would have liked to know that he is alive. Well, he should be there at least to hear that. You're right. To be proud of the one who died, but not to be proud of the one before.

Do you feel that the medical help to die can bring that? Yes. Because the person knows. The person knows, yes, and then she knows. And then she's there, and then we do a ceremony for her. So we're not far from our project. But I really like the project you're proposing.

How could we call that? Wait. We could call that a taste before after. A taste before after. Yes, a taste before after. A taste before after. A taste before after. We're not going to take long.

It's our old days. No, but it's true that because you just lived something that looks like that, in the sense that you received a dose of love from everywhere. I didn't think that I... What did you learn through all this? I learned... You know, when you're in action, you don't realize how much you've done this and that. Recently, there will be a documentary on the years of the AIDS.

And then I was asked to participate in this. And then it makes me think that I was the first on television to talk, to demonstrate what AIDS was. But I didn't think about it while I was doing it, because I had to find actors, we had to make a big deal with that. We did two on the Sida. But it was after you meet each other. And it was when I meet people who tell me

that it was important in the years of the Sida to tell the truth. Because there was a lot of falseness at that time that was being said on the Sida. In fact, all that, the fact that I was celebrated so much, well, no, I don't have a swollen head. You would have the right, Janet, to have a swollen head. No, but I don't have it.

But you take it. Because I know myself and I know everything. But you take it. But I take it. Oh, I'm glad I take it. And I thank everyone who dared to say that I was an extraordinary woman. It's hard to say, but it's good to hear. Sue is an extraordinary woman.

Do we start the game? We start the game? Yes, we are. I know there are people of all ages. The youngest tonight has 8 months. It's my little son, Henri. So you can hear the little baby cries. Oh, really?

Because I didn't tell him. He can also cry a little. But if there's anything, you can go down to the bottom. Sometimes it's Henri Tanné. But Henri, imagine you have a fan who's eight months old. Oh my God, imagine! So, we start with the green level. You've already played the game.

You're the first one I'm going to play it with twice. Yes! And I think with you, I could do it a thousand times. So, I put the cards on the table. You're going to give me five that you choose. One. And that's a dream for me. One, two, three, four, five.

You know I have trouble with my hands. Yes, I know. At worst, you can give them to me and I'll agree. Okay. So, when I look in the mirror, I see... You're going to choose one. What is your greatest fear? My greatest fear? Yes.

What importance do you shorten the looks of others? What is the trait of character on which you have to work? What is the thing that people most often blame you for? You chose one of those. I could answer all of them, but let's say I start with the first one. When I look in the mirror, what do I see? Well, I'm always surprised to see myself in the mirror because I saw myself for years with the eyes of my brothers,

who were older, who werequin, and who said to me, he said to me, are you fighting with the mop? You know, the first ball, I was 17, there was a student from McGill, in medicine, the daughter of Ontario,

in medicine, who invited me to go to the ball, to McGill. I am, listen, in medicine, who invited me to go to the McGill Ball. I was on a cloud, I was getting a little trauma, but since I don't have a mother, my father doesn't know about this, I only have brothers, I got a little trauma, not very expensive, you know, with a little collar. And then the boy came to pick me up, he brought me an orchid and he said to me, so I'm so happy, my brother Paul said to me, Hey, take off your jacket, you're going to the ball. It's a farce.

You know, the farce of, huh, we know them, huh, the farce you know them? So I spent my evening saying, it's true that my dress is too cheap, it's true that my dress is not beautiful, it's true that I don't like it. And she goes down, down, down, down. So when I look in the mirror, it's always that same girl who sees only her flaws.

I need a tour, but we're not alone. We look in the mirror not to look beautiful, to see her flaws. We sit in the mirror to see their flaws. If you have something on your nose, you will see it the same way. It's true. We are like that, girls. Are you still like that today? I'm still like that. I find myself beautiful when I'm freshly put on makeup,

by a makeup artist, and then I'm sure of myself. At home, it's not strong. And Donald, I guess he finds you beautiful all the time? Well, yes. Well, yes. And for me, there are no good glasses. But I imagine it would be good for you to have those eyes at some point to look at yourself and see what they see that you don't see. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He told me that he always finds me beautiful and that he loves me.

So, does that count? You see how I have boobs. But he loves me. You know, it's all about you, people. You see how I have boobs. Is there a period of your life where you found yourself beautiful? Listen, it goes back. I see myself. Once, I thought I didn't have beautiful legs. I found myself looking good in everything. And then I did a telethon with Jean Lapointe, and I got myself a dress, and it was quite short,

maybe it was in the short dresses. And then one day I was watching TV, and I said, I have beautiful legs. Listen, I was 40, 50 years old, maybe, so it took me some time. I'm a late bloomer. I was 40, 50 years old maybe. So it took me some time. I'm a late bloomer. But I find it really interesting that you chose that question

because all our lives are a challenge. Yes. When I look at myself. We don't see ourselves. No. We see ourselves with all our complexes, all our childhood. We see ourselves like that.

The question I'm going to choose is what do we blame you for most often, if we blame you for something else? Not anymore. But for years, we blamed each other for talking about sex. I thought it was normal to talk about something that everyone did. How could it be that it was a sin to talk about it. I was talking about it on the radio. I started talking about it in my heart-chart. I had a heart-chart when I was 17. I was very young. And it's for sure that people didn't write to me to tell me own stories. And I had a lot of letters from women, 40 years old, who said,

I read a novel, and we talk about jouissance. What is jouissance? So I had to explain to people that there were orgasms. Listen, there didn't exist. The proof of that, at the beginning of sanitary napkins, there's no one old enough to remember, before sanitary napkins,

it was winter, our But he wasn't mean. He just thought he was funny. I understand, but at the same time, you were single, so it's hard to learn. It's hard to learn. I think sarcasm in boys versus girls still exists. It happened to me not long ago, to make a little bit make the law in my family. I had a big family, I had 8 grandchildren and 7 behind me. So I have all the people. And they were laughing a little bit at their sister. And I said, stop that, you don't know what it does when you're young. Henry! When we're young, Henry. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha for a while, Jeannette Lacochonne. Well, let's see. Yes.

In the newspapers, they said, I'm an exhibitionist, she always talks about sexuality. But I was talking about it because it was a flagrant need. And you, where did you learn? So when I started a story, I didn't finish.

You're talking about the story of Modest? Yes. Okay, so one of the first, there was Cotex and Modest. Modest no longer exists. So the gentleman who was advertising these products called me to tell me, all this advertising is in English. I would like you to make a pamphlet, but in French. So I wrote, I had the two pictures of my daughters, who were at that time 7 years old and 6 years old, and said, Mom, tell me everything about menstruation. And this book, believe it or not, there are, when I do book shows, I will be in Quebec very soon, and at the bookshelves, my door, this little pamphlet,

which said, my mother gave me, and young women, my mother gave me this recently, because mothers did not know the real terms. So they had the terms of the stories that they had, of their husbands. So she said, how do you call things? So I was talking about emancipation and even hymen, because hymen is a word that we no longer use, but it was very important. But especially you didn't want hymen to be pierced before marriage. Well that's it, that's why those who show their rights with blood.

Yes, it exists in certain cultures, in certain religions. On television, I have a... how, why? In the year of the exhibition, 1967, I brought a gynecologist who had a plank, we call it planks, with pictures of men. No men, a lot of men, not of... Because the guys at that time thought it was a wall to cross. And that...

Blood was dripping everywhere. No, no, that's not how it works. You had to defend yourself. And there are some who don't have it. There are women who don't have men. OK, so, you know, women, they must have fears about that? Well, women had... Compared to, women there, they must have fears about that. Well, women had fears.

Regarding the first relationship, what was going to happen? Well, yes, and if by chance, there is no door broken, well, why does she go through? There was an expression, my brothers had an expression, which said, of a girl who had a pierced hymen, there are just the little dogs that didn't pass on it. So you were immediately thrown into a easy girl. In any case, there wasn't much of a step forward. No, what an era.

And then, you know, someone had to, like me, to get things out of the way, to get out of this misery in which we were of this misery, in which we were sexual misery, that we didn't have to talk about things, about the real life, which is sexuality. But when you got married with Jean La Jeunesse, was it easy for you, we're not even at the pink level yet, we're not at the eros and compagnie level yet,

but was it easy for you to talk about sexuality in your relationship? My father, I didn't have a mother, my father told me, the other girl, we have to talk. I said, well, he's going to give me a speech, he's going to explain everything to me. So I see myself at the table with him, he's at the of the table, in his chair, in his arm, and he said to me, «Yeah, well, you're going to get married, huh?» «Yes, on May 22nd, yes.

Well, the couple life, well, that's it. Well, that's it. What do we eat already?» So it was, «that's it». I had that. Like when I was washing myself. Do you want us to do the whole show on the rocks? Well, we'll get there. We're not there yet. No, but we learn. I'm listening to you. It's the history of Quebec.

It's really interesting that you're coming from there. It's the history of Quebec. Yes, but I come from there. That's it, you come from there. When we had... It's the history of Quebec. But I come from there. That's right, you come from there. We had a bath. When I was a little girl, there were a lot of people who didn't have a bath.

They washed themselves in the middle. So we had a bath, but a small water tank, big as that. So we had to put that in water. And our mother told us, don't waste hot water. Hot water is expensive., not two inches. So we went, and my mother knocked on the door and said,

Don't forget to wash your bottom. It was called the bottom. Don't forget to wash your bottom. There weren't many words. No. Our parents didn't have words. I wasn't alone. No one was talking. So you put words.

Quickly, you said, no, it can't be that. You had this great curiosity. You found the information, Janet. Yes, I consulted. I consulted with two or three doctors. I with and I bought a lot of them. But he was happy to make things move forward. I said, well, like that, it was a gynecologist, it was my gynecologist, and I said, you have to come and show me what a hymen is.

It doesn't make sense. The questions I had, you know, I'm afraid that my blonde, that I won't deflower her. Defloré, you know? I've heard that before. Defloré, yes. It was a big deal at that time. You couldn't get married if you were deflowered. No, not at all.

I'm not sure you'd get married. No, not at all. No, no. So we didn't ask a man if he was a florist. We couldn't know. We couldn't know. At what time, anyway? Yes, at what time. But you participated in bringing us where we are. Yes, I think so. Really.

Applause Yellow level, you will give me four. So, let's go. Let's go. What aspect of your life did you neglect? Are you a new old woman, to take the words from your last book? How did you learn to love yourself? What did you learn about yourself by writing My life in three acts? I'll take the last one because the first one is very good too. What did you learn about yourself by writing my life in three acts?

I learned that we all had a childhood, and then the other day, you know, my flaw is that I go with an idea, and then another one comes, and I start with the other one, and then it's like... It's like zig-zagging. So, it's because the doctor... I'm afraid I can't remember his name. You know, the doctor who is in St. Justine... Chicoine. Jean-François Chiquin. Yes, I did the show, Les hommes en art, last Friday. And then I said, out of the blue, I said to him, is it true that we have been dragging his childhood all his life?

And he said yes. And it's true, because I spent my childhood, all my life, I think that sometimes we can deny it, that we do that, but if we are honest with ourselves, we say yes, it's true. And the older you get, when I was 90, the more we make connections with our childhood. And we say, oh, that's why. They told me we learn things from each other. I don't know why it takes us so long to discover the links there are. So, when I was writing my life in three acts, I sat down and said, I remember nothing.

That's the first reaction, I remember nothing. But when you sit down and start again, three years, I don't remember, four years, oh, I remember the blood. Oh, I remember this thing. Oh, I remember. You know, you have to go get your memory. Our hard drive is there. But writing is an exercise that requires details.

But don't write when you write it. It's when you read it later that you say, here it is. But my baby was in a bag in the back, I take the bag and I put it down. And then I can open it, and then it's less heavy to carry when it's on the table. So writing your autobiography, that's what I did with... I received two during the pandemic. 2400. You received 2400. Biography of people who are going to... Yes, especially people from the regions, especially women, 82% of women, who did what I suggested to them, to describe their childhood, to describe their life. It did them so much good, they told me the same thing.

It's funny, my youth problems, as I have put them down, they are less serious. It's like you're taking things off your backpack. It takes things off your backpack. Because you accumulate over time. Yes, and even if you don't want it to be published, and even if no one will ask you to publish it, you do it for yourself, to look at your life with hindsight.

Because when we talk to someone in our life, we have less hindsight than if we took the time to write it, we went to look in his memory what we had lived and put it there. And I was angry at my mother, very angry at my mother, who didn't know how to love me. And that's when I discovered that she had done what she could with what she had. And recently, while writing my last book... The letter to your children at the end,

No, before that. I discovered that I had a sister whose name nobody talked about, a little sister who died three years after the Spanish flu. And maybe my mother never came back, maybe she wasn't able to, I was 95 years old when I discovered that.

So you discover, and then I am reconciled with my mother. Because I tell myself, but maybe that's it. You know, when you lost a 3-year-old child, and then another little girl comes, I can't find her. So you know, she couldn't get attached, maybe. She was too heavy. She couldn't get attached. She was maybe in a mourning.

And I lost some of my twins, who didn't live with me. They were at home. And we talked about it later, because I became pregnant with Dominique, and I had Isabelle. But I did one thing. For a few years, and I said, well, but I did one thing. For a few years, without realizing it, I dressed my two children the same.

It's crazy. It's crazy. I find that it makes a connection with your mother. Yes. You lived something very, very similar. Yes, yes. It was your way of mourning. It was my way of mourning your daughters. It was my way of mourning.

It's like she lived through Isabelle and Dominique. So, you know, we don't have to... The babies we have, we all have them, they are different, but we have to put them on paper. Because things you wouldn't say to a friend, you're going to write it. Even if you don't publish it that you wouldn't tell a friend, you'll write it. Even if you don't publish it, you put it on your head.

Because, you know, mourning, I want us to come back to your mother. Because mourning for a child, there was a time when you had to go through it quickly to have other children. I remember my grandmother used to talk about it a lot. The priest would come back and say, OK, you're going to do another one, while you're living a mourning. Because there are a lot of people who lost children from the Spanish flu. Oh my God! It was children who were 3, 4, 5, 6 years old. And they didn't even have to talk about it anymore.

It's like they were 11, but in the end they were 12 children. You know, it's a child who is 4 or 5 years old. Imagine what these women lived through, to continue without space to express the pain they felt. Well, the women, your father too. Clearly, your mother did something. Marie-Claude, it still exists. We just lived through a mourning. My son-in-law, François Guillemard, the husband of my daughter, Isabelle.

And it's unbelievable how people don't want you to be sad. You have to make your life. You have to do this mourning. It lasts two years. It's like we don't want to. We defend people from having a burden. Because we don't like that, look at someone who has a burden.

And imagine when you keep that in, it doesn't go away? No, it doesn't go away. It's that you isolate yourself with your burden. Yes, yes, yes, and that causes depression afterwards. When you haven't lived your grief, you have to live your grief. But to live grief, as you just said, you have to be able to express it. Exactly. You have to talk about it, but people don't want you to talk about it. Because they say, no, it happened 15 days ago, she won't talk about it all her life.

I have a friend who suddenly lost his partner on a golf course. He played golf and he died. She had the pain for a long time. I remember some friends in common saying, « Are you going to be fine this year? » What you just said is, « Are you going to be fine this year? » But the pain, it's your habit. I think if she had been able to put it on pause, she would have done it.

But you don't have room. It invades you. That's it on pause. Yes, yes. You have no room. You have to do the mourning. Sometimes you have to consult too. I find it beautiful that you understood your mother. It's worth writing because even if you were 95 years old, it certainly brings you hope. It brought me a lot.

And to have some retreat. Because often, we are in the pain of something that just happened, a love break or whatever, we are in this pain and we don't see outside. While writing, it works even if we don't know how to write. Well, I was told, when I launched this project during the pandemic, I was told that there was no one who was going't write. They told me, when I started this project during the pandemic, they told me that no one would write. It would be full of mistakes.

No, not at all. I advised them, I had made capsules before, I advised them, you have little children who are good at... Give them time to correct their mistakes. And that's not what counts. What counts is emotions. Yes, and to be able to read each other. To read each other, yes, quite simply. Quite simply. I know you touched on the question, so I'll ask you.

What aspect of your life did you neglect? What aspect? It makes me laugh. I liked doing the laundry. I liked it. You have no idea. Can you repeat it? It makes me feel good. I hate doing the cleaning. Let's applaud her.

It makes us feel good to hear that. Bravo! Pushing dust. I hate it. Bravo! Poussin de la poussière, je vais à Guissa changer la poussière de place. Ma mère, changer la poussière de place. Un jour, mon chum m'a fait faire un chandail. C'était écrit, avoir de l'ordre c'est donner de l'importance aux choses qui n'en ont pas. It was written, to have order is to give importance to things that do not have. Oh! Think about it.

He just gave you money. Yes. No, not him. He has order. But he wrote it like... No, no, it's because he found it funny. He found it funny. he was in love. He found it funny that... I think that all my career, no one says it,

all my career that I did, was to not do cleaning. And you made it. That, I did it. But cleaning, we still need to talk about it. I thought, cleaning, we still need to talk about it. That's why I said, we still need to do it. No!

Well, yes, yes, but at the same time, it depends. Doing it is one thing, but preventing yourself from doing something to do the cleaning, is another thing. You know, when you... Because we were educated like that too. At home, it was the same. Saturday morning, I woke up with the Electrolux under the bed, and I had to go through the laundry, the laundry... But you know, it also leaves us funny memories, this obligation.

I remember my mother, she said, Well, we're going to Gaspésie, so we're going to do the cleaning, because if we die, the house will be clean. Oh! No, but that was it! It was always necessary that everything was clean if we died. I change your underwear. If you had to die.

If you had to die. But you know, we're all dirty. But it's still things that are anchored. Because you know, I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... a museum. But it's all those sentences that I heard, I think about them. It's like a struggle to say, for me, no, it's not important, but I think about it, it's not right what I do. You understand not to take so long to do that.

So it's still, there's something to be cultivated. It's not like, I'm not going to not correct what I'm doing. You don't understand why I'm so into this. So it's still... there's something about culture. It's in us, anyway. It's in us, but there are people, their inner security, they care about everything to be speak and span. They can't function if everything everything really beautiful, really clean. I don't see that.

My mother told me, well, my mother, she had tuberculosis, I took her by the way, and she was always sitting in her chair, in the dining room, and then she fell down and then she said, Jeannette, in the fourth barrel of the chair, there's dust. Dust had become an obsession for her. I said, I don't want to live my life watching dust. You know, it's...

What is that? But it was good because it gave me that desire. And then she said, when you get married, I'm going to go to your place and there will be, I know, dust rolls. So I got married and I made a dust roll. One day, with the suitcase, I went under the bed and I said, ah, I told my husband, I said, that's it, that's it, my mother threatened me. That's it, a good dust me. That's it, a good day of dust. Did you sleep well afterwards? Yes, yes. I was not a dust.

You talked about tuberculosis, because you had tuberculosis. Very young. I was 20 years old. Were you afraid of dying? Oh, well, it was sure that I was going to die. I was in a... in Saint-Agathe, where there was a huge sanatorium. I was in a smaller sanatorium of Dr. Joannet, who was a doctor who came from India, a Quebecer, and who had founded a kind of small hospital for tuberculosis. And there was not a day when there was no death.

All the young people, all 20 years old, we were 20 years old, there was an Indian woman I met there, and she had motoraxic tires, because there was no time to... there was no remodeling. It was the penicillin that saved the world. I did that because it was the man who called me. I was contagious. I had a plague in my lungs.

When my mother died in Montreal, I came to see her a few days before she died. She was coughing her lungs. The doctor had told me to go, but I went anyway. I gave her her bath, even though I had never seen a piece of my mother's skin. At that time, there was no bathing suit. I was 100 years old. So, there was a long time. And then I washed it, I washed it with a hair dryer, if you will.

It was an extraordinary moment. So sometimes, I tell my daughter Dominique, I say, well, I'm going to take my bath, will you help me undress? And then I go up naked in front of my children so that they know that at 100 years old, we're not... They were like, are you naked? A little bit, but not that much.

That's wonderful, wonderful. At the same time, I think what you just said is to let your daughters enter your intimacy. Oh, yes. They will always remember that. Yes, because we have the impudence, yes, we need the impudence, but there are still moments

when you can be very intimate with your children. I remember during the pandemic, my son and I were very, very close. He came ten years later. He had dyslexia problems. He had, oh my God, he was a very, very tannic child. And what we call now, there is a term there, it's... TDAH? No, no, no, hyperactive.

But it's not a point of attention to hyperactivity? Hyperactive. Okay. So, and then, but we love each other, we love each other a lot. And he was so shy to kiss me. So we were in the countryside and we were looking at each other, we couldn't kiss. So I said, we're giving each other a kiss on the cheek,

I lifted the shirt. I gave him a kiss on the cheek, he lifted my shirt. You know, we lack intimacy with our children. We don't want to touch them. Especially when they get older. Yes, when they get older, that's it. But it's wonderful because you remember, in fact, the bath you gave your mother,

it's probably the greatest moment of intimacy you've had with her. Oh, that I had with her, yes, yes. Because she let herself be. She let herself be. You saw it in her vulnerability. Oh, everything, yes. And she was a very cold woman. So there I saw her naked her vulnerability. Yes, and she was a very cold woman. I saw her naked, very small, she was very skinny.

It was beautiful, it was a great moment in my life. What would you think your mother would think of you today? I don't know. I don't know at all. She died a long time ago. I don't know. To see that your daughter marked generations... I don't think she thought that about me.

Because at that time, what you wanted for your daughters was for them to be married to a working man. And that's what you did? That's what I did. You were docile. Yes, I married an actor who was very poorly seen. Actors at that time were considered as people lost by the Church. She didn't quite agree. She knew him. I think that...

He was four years older than me, and she thought he was too old. My mother, who lived on Ontario Street, she dreamed that I married at least a guy from Oslaga-Maison-Neuve. Because he was much more high class than Ontario and Frontenac, who were the Foubourg Amelasse. So you see... But there were social classes. I understand that now, but there was that a long time ago. There were social classes, for sure. And there were those who had done the classic class and all the others who hadn't. So yes, it was very different.

Are you ready to go to the red level? Yes. So please give me three. Oh my God, I'm going to be late. Three? You're going. You're going. I didn't see. I didn't see.

We're going to do it like at school. I didn't see. I didn't see. How does one teach love? What battle was the most difficult to lead? Have you already reached the end reached your physical or psychological limits? How do you teach love? I think the biggest teaching is from your parents, who don't need to talk.

If you see your parents being affectionate to each other, if you see your father, for example, putting his hand under your mother's skirt, you will say, Oh my God, you will know that there is something sensual between them. Your first example is your parents. It is your parents who show you how to treat a woman, how to treat a man. It is them other way around. And then it's taught in books. It's taught in consultancy. It's taught by reading my books. Oh!

Small publicity by the way. And you, when did you learn to love yourself? I don't know, I'm not even sure if it's done. I'm not sure it's done. I'm not sure. I'm so marked. I'm so marked as a grandma. I don't know. It always seems like I'm not able to do things. It's always like someone else. Like if I had a double personality, and the other is hungry, and I'm the nanny. In any case, it's complicated.

I think I would need a psychiatrist. But you saying that, we understand that there are a lot of people who have the misery of having sex. A lot, a lot, a lot. Listen, I don't come back to girls. I think men have less difficulty in loving each other because they have work prowess. And then they think, hey, I'm good, I have to be good, I was elected as a deputy.

Hey, I have to be good. But now that there are so many women deputies, 46% of women in politics. 46%! Bravo! That's a stunning mirror. Yes. Yesterday, when I received my prize, it was in Parliament.

And it was all women deputies, there were a lot of women. And you know, I was so proud of where we came from. I'm proud, but I... You know, I think I made a little bit of a mess in there. You know, I helped a little bit, but not a big bit. Uh, sorry? We're going to back down the cassette, we're doing what you're doing. It's not good.

Yes, yes. You made a big piece. Yes, but you asked me if I put myself... Yes, you have misery. I have misery, even in general. I don't get it. And I wouldn't like to be someone else, but I think it's a lot, a lot of compliments for things that I did almost by force.

It was to prove to my father that a daughter was worth something. It was for me that I did it at the beginning. But you have a militant side. Yes, a shareholder. I'm a shareholder. A shareholder, but at the same time, a activist, in the sense that you didn't always have unanimity, Jeannette. No. But it didn't stop you from moving forward. No, not at all.

And that's a activist side. Do you know why? Yes. Do you know why? Because I've always had the audience for myself. And that was the elite. Because I had a heart message, I was very, very despised by the elite of Montreal, those who had done their classic class, and who were to learn, the one who wanted to learn from others, but also shared. You know, I often tell them, I'm afraid to give up. You know, the old people who give up, tired. We like that enough. No, no, but it's true, because it may be that

someone heard it, but it's possible that someone heard it for the first time. So let's talk about who it is for the first time. I forgot my two. Ha ha ha! But, okay, you were talking about Radio Canada. Yes. I just want to...

Maybe you'll find your idea through all this, but did you, when you were with these people, because there were really those who did their classic courses, when you were with these people, did you take your place or did you feel diminished? No, I felt diminished and I tried to look smart, and then I was... You reacted to that. I reacted to that. And I went to university in letters and in history, and I was recognized for the one who asked questions. I asked questions.

I was not ashamed to ask questions because I fell. You know, we were raised, at my time, by religious people. And then these women were not included as priests to teach, but not to be like their mothers. I have six cousins who are included among the sisters because their mother had had 12 children, and then she didn't want to. She didn't want that anymore. There was no other way. You could be a single woman, married, a nurse, you were still serving, a nurse, you were still serving. There were a lot of people who didn't know, who weren't made for that. So...

Hey, that's not good. But you're talking about taking... You see I'm not made for that. You see I'm not perfect. You see I'm not... I love that. No, no, it was extraordinary, but... I have memory holes. No, but it's because we were talking about being able to speak in front of these people. Even not to shut up.

And then you said you were feeding your curiosity, you wanted to learn. That is to say that I a speciality in loving people, a speciality in understanding people. To ask questions. To ask questions, to understand even those who had no right to speak. And that's what it was. You know why they say Jean-Edbertin is homosexual? Because in my heart, it was full of young boys from the regions who wrote.

My father told me, if I ever learned that you're gay, we didn't say the word gay, we said other awful words, I would beat myself up, or I would kill myself, or I would kill myself. It was so serious, so serious serious that I replied, I wrote, you know, homosexuality, I consulted. Homosexuality is natural. If there was a choice, there was no one who was a choice, no one would be homosexual, because we all want to be like everyone else. So it's not a choice. So... But especially at the time, I mean, there was nothing that was... I mean, there was nothing that allowed

to be homosexual. Not at all. So they knew they were to be, so they were very unhappy. They were marginal. Now it's very different. At the time, it was marginal, but isolated. But we're not talking about the Middle Ages.

We're talking about 100 years ago. Listen, we changed in 70. The Tranquille Revolution took place in 60. It took us 10 years to open up a little. And now it opens up a lot, but it took took us ten years to get out of the great darkness. How did you manage to have a message from the heart? Ah, that's... well, there are a lot of chances in our job. When I left college, I left with...

My father owned a store for men, and my mother never went out, she was sick. So I had men's underwear, but small. I had small men's underwear and a skirt. So I went, you know, that was it. I wasn't dressed, I wasn't dressed, and I didn't have taste, because I wasn't dressed, and I didn't like it because I wasn't dressed. I didn't like it, I didn't like it. I didn't like it. So I went to ask for a job every day. The press told me, yes, you will paint marriages. Because the marriage was the marriage with the daughters of honor. I said no. Imagine, I had never won my life.

I said no, I said no to that money, because I wanted to be a big reporter. It's extraordinary confidence. You have confidence in yourself. Yes, or in the madness. She's taking it for another. It didn't work. Ah, there's a gentleman who had the newspaper Le Jour, Jean-Charles Harvey. And he hired me in his newspaper Le Jour to Jean-Charles Harvey. Et puis, qui m'engage dans son journal Le Jour à écrire

Opinion de femme. Alors là, c'était les gars, ils y passaient. Mais c'était drôle. Alors ça, j'ai écrit ça. À un moment donné, il est nommé au petit journal. Et puis, il me dit, la courrieriste du coeur s'en va. Et puis, j'ai plus personne pour écrire le courrier du coeur. J'ai dit, pas moi, j'ai pas 35 ans. The heart courier leaves and I have no one to write the heart courier. I said, I'm not 35, I don't know anything.

I really don't know anything, I don't know anything, I'm not capable, not capable, not capable. We really had to make a living. My husband was an actor, we were very little paid. A novel was paid $50. I remember living two years. Steak hache and sausage. That was the menu. Potatoes, steak hache and sausage. And then I arrive with...

He tells me, don't say anything. Read the texts. If you're interested, you have it. I read at the end of the week, I read the letters at the end of the week. The letters were written in the same way. At that time, in Confessional, you didn't get advice. You were told that you would say two Aves Maria or a Panther Nostaire. I don't know. Anyway, it was so extraordinary that I said, yes, but on condition that it's

me who, that it's not someone from the newspaper who rewrites the letters. We leave the letters as they are. And I started like that. And it lasted 17 years. It made my university. That's where it all started. It all started there. That's where it all started. That's where you learned, you understood. There was human misery.

That's when I said to myself, I love the world, I love people. We need to improve human fate. But I was thinking, how am I going to do that? When television arrived, I was on the radio at that time, and I was an animator on the radio, and Pierre Petel, who was a director on the radio, who had a big family that I loved a lot, who told me, Jeannette, you should write a sketch for TV. I did it. Two years after TV, starting in 1952 for the television. I did it two years after the television, starting in 1952, in 1954.

I was doing you and me, the ancestor of a guy and a girl that lasted six years. At twenty... But you were writing! I was writing! Well, yes. But I'll tell you, it's fascinating because... I have nothing to prove.

But that's what I like! Someone told me, you're capable. We do it. I do it. Yes, but I love what I hear. Because I wasn't raised... I think you taught me that. You're capable. If people ask me, it's because I'm capable.

It's like if you see something I don't see, we'll try it. We'll try it. That's it. I'm like that. So you wrote the heart message, you wrote it. but what you wrote, the heart message influenced you. Yes, yes. It's fascinating because you see, we look at your way of life, sometimes we hesitate to do things. And you did it without knowing that it would change your life. No, and without knowing that going to be successful. But it happens that the ordinary world, what we call the ordinary world, they even, because they know that I come from the

Ontario street, and Frontenac, that I never denied my origins, that I come from the ordinary world, I'm an ordinary woman who had the chance to go to university. And when you answered them, you had this curiosity to go, to find the right answers. to find the right answers.

Well, you found the right answers. And you know, what I was told, and you'll be interested in that, as I know you, is that what is important in life, it comes back to writing your life. It's not so much writing, Mrs. Muntel, it's taking the pen, to concentrate on your story, because if you're going to write it, to reread it, to post it, to wait for the answer. The psychologist I consulted told me, he knows the answer before your answer, because he also has his back.

The problem when we have a problem, is that he invades our heads, and it's true that we have no back. We don't have a back. How am I going to get out of this? It doesn't make sense. So if you write it, it was at the time when there was no one

to whom we could write or to whom we could talk to. And how did you get to which family? How did you get to which family? It was the same thing. I wrote, you and me. And it's funny because I got a phone call a few years ago from Guillapeach a few years ago, who said, hey, you and me, does that mean anything to you? I said, yes, I wrote that for six years in Radio-Canada. He said, because I named my show like that, you and me. He changed.

I said, I don't care. But you know, you're going to be accused of taking a title that... That's how he calls a boy and a girl. Well, yes, I understand called a guy a girl. A girl is pretty funny. Yes, he was in the same place. He was the ancestor. Because what family, I remember that.

With your family, it was still revolutionary. Everything was revolutionary. You didn't help. Everything was revolutionary. I wanted to, because in our country, three children, one bathroom, in the bathroom, it doesn't work. Always one who is alive, when you brush your teeth, the other one says, hurry up!

It's tiring. So I wanted a lot of scenes to happen. They answered me, it never happened. Well, we're going to do it. Because it's never been done. Hey, isn't that a beautiful answer? We're going to do it. We're going to get our shirts made.

We're going to do it. Jeanette Bertrand. So that was a lot. Because it was scenes from life. I'm very risky. I'm someone who likes risk. Who likes to risk things. I don't tell you every time it didn't work. But it's important to say that.

Because we can look and say, ok, everything she touches, it works. No, it's not true. So you shouldn't be afraid to say no. No. So that... I have no pride. I have no pride. I don't know... When. I don't have any pride. I don't know. You know, when I was a young girl, we would go dancing with the girls, my girlfriends and me,

at a place in Westmont, there was a paroacial room, I don't remember the name, I knew it yesterday, but I don't know it today. Others don't know it, so it's okay. So we would go dancing and the other girls would say, at some point, the room was doing this, it was the girls asking the guys, and at another point, it was the guys asking the girls. You know, to mix things up.

The girls were on their side waiting for the guy to ask them. I got up and I went to ask the boy. And I was the one dancing the best. Did he say yes or not? He said yes, well yes. He should have come back. Yes, at 16, and in my time at 16, you were holding your eyes to the end. So I was going to ask, and I said to the girl, why aren't you going?

She said, well, everyone will look at me. Well, no. Who will look at you? No one is looking at you. This idea that everyone will look at me, I've never had that. Did you have sex with men? I can tell you that at 20 years old, no, at 17 years old, I went to my student ball. I didn't find a guy. So the seamstress who had made my dress, with my dress, with my father, she said, my father saved money.

So I said, Dad, I need a ball. So he said, oh, I have good fabric, your father is good, I have very good fabric. So he passed me the fabric, it was a blue-white-red flag fabric. My dress was white with a little coat, blue-white-red. So I looked like a fool. But I had the flag, with a flag fabric. That's ugly.

And the guy I asked, well, he didn't like girls. So I was waiting for my good night kiss, as it was written, and it didn't come. And then, well, I didn't get it. So, you know, I didn't get as much as that. Okay, now we'll continue because I have a lot of things that come to mind when we talk about that. We're not even in the rocks.

Not yet. Not yet. Wait, we'll get there. But it's because you fascinate me. And you know, I was young when I was with the family. I don't know when it was on TV, but it was revolutionary to see these family chicanes, these teenagers, what was happening in the basement, the dogs in the couple versus the children. It could be updated with today's issues and it would work. That's what they did. Parents.

Parents, yes, that's it. It can be related to parents. That's really what you were the precursor of. Now we're talking about men. We're not at about the eros level, but you often tell her this story, and it fascinates me every time. How... it's you who made the first steps with Donald. You say you were young, and you decided at 57 years old. Yes.

It's beautiful, that story. Yes. You found beautiful, this story. Yes. Did you think it was going to be a hit? Well, I mean, I do an show in Radio-Québec, it was called Radio-Québec at the time. Donald has been a decorator for several years, he worked 26 years as a decorator. And then he worked with me for a year. And then every time, you know, we had meetings, we read the text, and then the decorator was there, the costumes, the makeup, everyone was there. And then every time I got up, I read, every time I got up, he looked down,

so he looked at me. And I didn't know him at all. I didn't know his life. I didn't know anything. I didn't even know how old I was. You know, I was... The year passed and then there was a party, as there is always in the rap parties, the end of the year parties. And then it was very dark in the parking lot.

So he... No, no, no, nothing happened. So he said, I'm going to drive you back to your car. Or your car, I don't remember. It's a citizen, I don't remember. Now you're a citizen. Yes. Yes. And then, and then, and then, and then, uh, so there, it was very close there, you know,

he didn't move, and he was a man of few words, huh, Donald, contrary, contrary to my ex-husband. And then, he, he, so it passed, I said to myself, oh my God, he's in time. But I was getting divorced, I didn't have the head for that at all. I was working, it worked, I was happy. And finally, the director's office is where the directors are. And I was always in the office to look at what was there. I was the director's assistant. And then I was going on. I was directing the actors. Then I had to go down a small staircase with my heels up. And then I went into the studio.

But between the studio and there was like an entrance, by chance he was there. And then I see him, I look at him and I push him not hard, but I push him along the wall and I kiss him. And I save myself. So much that I don't come back from myself. And then, a few days later, he's behind me. That's in the morning.

He's behind me and I write to him, What age are you? Because then I tell myself, I think he's young. So he marks me 39, but he had 38, but he lets you age. So I said, I'm not the girl you think, because I'm not someone who gets into men's affairs. Never. I never cheated on my husband, even when I was looking at someone else. I was married at 34 years old anyway. And then, and then, and then I, I, I, I, so, there was a car of a ferocious color.

And then, so, I said to him, we're going to, I'm going to talk to you at dinner time. So there he was waiting for me in his car. We couldn't stay in Télé-Québec because we would be in a hurry. He wanted to make our love known. So we walked around, we didn't stop kissing. And that evening, we were drinking in a bar. That's the book you never told me about before.

No. No. In a bar... That's the word you never told me before. No! There, there, exclusivity! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I paid for my port card. I paid for it. Ok, it was on time. Yes. Anyway. Was it good?

We didn't let go. You tasted passion. No, I tasted passion. But you tasted it again. Yes, but it was extraordinary. And love, it falls on you. It's bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. It's...

I wish that to everyone. You weren't expecting that at that moment? No, not at all. Oh, but not at all, not at all. And I didn't even think of doing my life again. So the funniest thing is that that was on Thursday. Yes, the show was aired on Thursday night. On Friday, I was going out with my two daughters,

who were young girls, and we were going to the magazine, it was on Saint-Denis Street at the time, it was very original. So we're in the car, I'm in the back, Dominique is driving, and I tell my daughters, I have something to tell you.

I slept with a man. Laughter Both moms, wow! You have to celebrate that. Listen, we went to celebrate at the express. You know, the restaurant at the express. Yes, well yes, on est allé fêter à l'Express. Tu sais, le restaurant... Oui, bien oui, sur Saint-Denis, oui. Oui, l'Express. Il restait à le dire à mon fils.

Les fils, ils aiment moins ça. Ils voulaient savoir c'était qui, j'imagine. Non, tu sais pas c'était qui, là. C'était... C'était père de sa mère, là, tu sais. C'était quelque chose. Et l'âge là-dedans, quand il t'écrit le faux there, when it was written, the wrong 38, the wrong 39. There was 38. And there was 38. Is that strenuous or not at all?

Not at all, not at all, not at all, not at all. There is a huge taboo of our days. Yes. I don't remember that women on the street come to tell me, taboo de nos jours. Moi là, j'en reviens pas. Que les femmes sur la rue viennent me dire à l'oreille comme si c'était ma. Je suis comme vous, j'ai un amour avec un homme de vingt ans plus jeune. Puis j'ai dit bravo, puis bon, c'est le fun, oui. Mais pourquoi on se cache de ça? Les hommes font ça depuis toujours. C'est vrai? Pourquoi nous autres, Why do we do this all the time? Why do we, these taboos, ask a son, ask a son today,

would you like to see your mother with a younger man? No! They don't want to! How is that done? It's because, I'll tell you the reason. It's because a woman of my age, of 57 years old, who is with a younger man, so it's for sure that she's in love. And sons don't like that. Because they don't want their mother to be the Holy Virgin.

You know? So... But it's okay. But it's like that. It's annoying to me, this taboo, when women don't... Listen, if I ask each one,

they'll say, no, not me. Why? Because I'll be misjudged. Because they'll say, me, no. But when you get lost the other's radar, because you are happy. But the funniest thing is that from the first week, I went to the theater.

I went to the theater a lot, I went to the theater with Donald. Listen, people turned their eyes away. I have never felt so much hatred. Of hatred and judgement? And judgement, yes. From women and men. Men, especially.

If my wife leaves me for a young man, imagine, it's totally shameful. It's a threat. It's a threat. I become a threat. It's a threat. Since men do it, they're not cowards. They do it since forever. A 50-year-old divorcee takes a younger one.

Is that true? Yes. And your children received Donate? Yes. Oh my God, yes. Very, very well. Very, very, very, very well. And it's been 41 years since we've been together. Hey, bravo! 41 years! All this because of a motel on Tachraud. Hey, you say you forget things, I forgot to give you your joker.

You can decide. Hey, I didn't even know how to explain the game. Since you've been doing it twice. So I don't think you'll use it. No, no, no. Listen, I see the pink questions. The questions are pink and accompanied. Are you ready? You'll see where it's all from.

You have the right person for it. I know! I'm going to ask you because we didn't even go and choose that one. Do you believe in knowing everything about sex? No. Okay, because you wrote a book about that. There's this question. What is emotional intimacy?

And how do you describe desire to the feminine? Okay. We're going to talk about desire. Because that is a big, big problem. Why does desire go so bad in couples? Why not all of them? Listen, we are at 50% of married couples who divorce, 70% of couples like me, in concubinatory, who separate. So couples are not doing well. But was it better when we were married for life?

I remember when the divorce was extended, that is to say that we no longer needed to do... Do you remember, Jeannette, because you talk about divorce when you came to co-animate two girls with me in the morning? There was Jeanne Instot, there was Lise Payette, there was François Sefauché. We had talked about divorce. Jeanne Instot and François Sefauché were obliged to do a staging where their husband was with their mistress. The police arrived and at that moment they had the right to ask for divorce in Ottawa, in English, only. But it took a statement, it took the adulterer and the police caught the man in adultery. It's something divorced. And a few years before that, for the man to be accused of adultery, the woman had to find the husband in the bed.

Imagine! Imagine! There was no divorce. But when the divorce was extended, it was the women who left. It was the women who left because they were not very well. So what do you say? Oh yes, desire. What is complicated with love is that women do not have the same idea of desire as men. What a woman wants is an atmosphere. She wants it to be beautiful. She wants him to bring her a little gift, flowers,

so that she can smell good. The guy wants to kiss. So it doesn't work. We don't want the same things. And desire is the same thing in marriage, in life together. We don't want the same things. We don't want the same things. We don't want them at the same time. And we don't explain ourselves about it. We don't talk about it. So it's as if it was heard.

And right now, I have to tell you that it's going very badly in couples. It's going very badly. I'm lucky to have in my knowledge, girls teaching young people of their 17s and 18s. Listen, the guy comes back with porn again since he was 11 years old. What he wants is to try everything he has seen. The girl, she doesn't want that. She wants to be courted, to bring a little chocolate, who thinks of her.

It doesn't work. It doesn't work. At the moment, love is going to hell. You see the difference? But it's not possible. You know, pornography is terrible. It's a curse that happens on people and everyone is making up stories about it, as if everyone was watching. It's terrible because porn is made to tease men. Women who watch, they're sure they're excited, but it's not.

All pornography, even porn for women, is made for men who want that. So women are stuck in romanticism. We get out of romanticism, I don't know when it happened, so much so that we are all the personality of the guy, if he is nice, if he is good for his mother, we will love him, if he is generous with his friends. We will all calculate that. The guy has an idea. It's necessary to remove it. It makes no sense. And how do we build a bridge between these two realities?

I don't know. At the moment, at have a conference with sexologists. I was with Michel Doré, with whom I wrote the book on sexuality, which is a complete book, which did not have any publicity because I did a septicemia, where I almost died six years ago, and the book was released at the same time. So there was no publicity because I was sick. And then, what was your question? Can we make the bridge? How do we make the bridge between the desire of women and the desire of men?

What we need to talk about is that the fathers need to talk to their little boy, and not say, my little boy at 11, I am not interested in sex. Go and see when you have a little friend and they go on the internet. Let's see, so we can control what our children are looking at. I am talking about boys. It is necessary to educate little boys from the age of 11 to tell them that love is not pornography. Pornography is really like a woman being an object, and that's what we're showing our children at the moment.

I find that very serious and I think it's going very wrong on that side. Absolutely. But pornography, when we also get to the notion of consent, these women who are often paid and abused themselves, listen, I don't know if you've heard recently that porn is in Montreal, the world pornography industry is in Montreal. So the girls are recruited here. You wrote a book called The Ordinary Violin. Yes.

Which had a lot of echoes. Yes. We heard a lot about it. I did some shows about it. I read you about it. Which is the violin that is played in the couple. Yes. I would like you to tell me about that. Because it's also, you were the first to talk about ordinary rape. Because it's not considered as a rape. Why? Because for years, a woman, in the marriage contract,

it wasn't written, but it was heard, it was happening from father to son. A woman has no right to refuse her husband. She has no right to refuse him. So when they ask for anything, she has to say yes. But that's not true. When you respect someone, you can love someone, and respect her too. Respect her consent. When you don't want it, you don't want it. I don't want this thing. You don't even have the right to give an explanation.

I don't want it. Because that's what you're doing. But when you look at porn, that's all there is to it. What do you want to do? I don't know where to take this problem, which is a real problem, which scares me a lot. For my grandchildren, my grandchildren, yes, I'm afraid of that. Because where does love go?

Because for us, it's not love. It's not love. It's not reciprocal love. It's a guy who takes his pleasure. That's a horse of a horse, a gota. I feel you're excited when you talk about that. Yes, yes. It's a horse of a horse, that's for sure. Because I have the proof. Oh yes, I forgot. I was telling you when I talked to Sexologist, who said, we receive in our offices 21 year old guys who can't make love without the film. They need to be more excited. At 20 years old, there is a problem.

And when you teach a child not to respect girls in the bedroom, how will he respect them elsewhere? The book you wrote with Michel Doré. How will you respect girls in the bedroom? How will you respect them elsewhere? The book you wrote with Michel Doré, the title, if I remember correctly, is Do you believe in all knowledge about sex? It's a book, I would have wanted to bring it, I forgot it at home, because it's a book that deserves it. You ask Michel questions,

you go to all the spheres and he answers. It's a good bridge. Yes, it's a bridge. And you, do you know everything about sex after that? No, no, no. Because I ask Michel Doret questions. That's why I didn't do it alone. That's it, but he answered a lot of your questions.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but it was me who asked the questions. It was him who answered. No, I can of us can do that. I can't know everything. And by the way, this title is not a good title. I go to a library, a very big one in Montreal, and then I see my book.

I don't see my book, which has just been published. I tell the lady who is there, who often helps me look for books, I say, where is my book? She said, people don't like that, even the word sex. Ah! So do you believe in knowing everything about sex? I don't know. There are even men, she saw men turn the book over.

At this point, it's hard to replace as a word. Yes, yes. But if you have the chance to read this book, sometimes at the library or the library, you have worked very hard. Oh my God, yes. There was a lot of work on this book. The last question, the question that is very sweet, is the question of the opto-network. It is always she who comes to close these encounters, to open your game.

When you look at the whole of your life, at what point would you have wished that time would stop? That time would stop? Yes, that you were well, at the time you were good. I think that the year we spent, Donal and I, we went to meet each other, because it was extraordinary. But then, I could say, it's the year of Dominique's birth, the year of Isabelle. But that's, that's, that's, that's heard. You know, family is our base. It's funny, it's like, my base is my family. They are there, they are there forever, and you know, it's a base. After that, well, other things are added, but it's my base.

But in the years, I don't know. There have been many. There have been years that I didn't want to relive because it hurt. But no, it's maybe those years, the first year, where we weren't always together, but hey, Mike, we were looking forward to seeing each other. It's wonderful. isn't it? Those were the little butterflies. Oh, yes. Did you feel like you were rejuvenating, meaning that the world of the possible opened up to you?

Oh yes, it's for sure. And the confidence that you have, which is in a lack of confidence in me, the confidence that it gives you that a handsome young man falls in love with you. Imagine the confidence that it gives you that I think of all the men who are with younger women. That's what they're going to look for. So I have a younger woman, so I give up? Yes, well, the old woman is well obliged.

So it's in both directions? It's in both directions. But of course it's in both directions. But today, do you feel like we've evolved? Because earlier you said the first time you went out. Not that much. We haven't evolved that much because, again, sometimes I talk to other women who tell me, oh no, never, never, my son wouldn't want to. How would your son not want to? If your son is going to tell you you you have a sexuality or not? You know, it doesn't make sense.

But yes, it was a big, big taboo. A big taboo. Really big. But you know, taboos were made. Earlier, I don't know what exactly you were talking about, but an idea came to mind. Oh yes, women who were old. Our mothers, my father told me, women who no longer have menstruation, who have their... Laminopause, that's the stage of life. Laminopause, that's what men called them, the bad ones.

Because they couldn't have children? Yes. So you were made to have children. If you had no children, you weren't good. So what did the woman do? She was conditioned by that. She dressed like an old woman, she didn't dress up. The song in the ship, you know, you let yourself go. The guys let themselves go, the women too, but because the woman is no longer good. So you know, it comes from somewhere. I'm very interested in finding where things come from. Because the woman is more good. So, you know, it comes from somewhere, all that.

I'm very interested in finding where things come from. And you teach us that, you teach us a lot of things. Where do the projects come from? Was the Minopos a beautiful year? No. Were those beautiful years? Oh, no. No.

Oh no, it was horrible. I had a pain in the shoulder, in the neck and in the shoulder, and I didn't know why. I went to see the doctor and he asked me how I was doing. I said, I'm so hot. In winter, at night, I would open the windows and I would lie on the blankets and under the blankets. So when the cold came, I would wake up and that's when I was doing the nivralgy. There are a lot of women who do nivralgy because they are so hot that they undress. But I still have heat.

Yes! Ok, it doesn't stop. I'm not telling everyone, I still have the same heat. It comes from here, and then it goes up. It's like a thermostat that doesn't control it. And then it goes up, and then the cheeks turn red, red, red. And then the blood, you say, I have to be like a tomato. I still have heat.

That means I still have estrogen. Laughter and applause You can call this the show of the girl who has nothing left to lose. But she still has estrogen. Janet, what do you want to say as a final word to all these beautiful people and all those who will watch what we are doing. That women are worth more than we think. We think for ourselves. We always despise ourselves.

I'm the first to do it. We despise ourselves. We say, I'm not capable, I wouldn't be capable. Yes, we are capable, we are capable. At the moment, in medicine, there are more women than men. In law, there are more women than men. We are capable. We were told for 8,000 years, for all the time that men were leading the world,

that women were not capable. You won't be able to do it. You're not strong enough. You won't be able to do it. You're not strong enough, you won't be able to do it. We are capable of everything, of almost everything, just the things that require a lot of strength. And that's important to tell yourself, I'm capable of much more things than I think. And do you agree that women, once we know that we are capable,

also make choices not to get down? Because you know, mental burden is great too. You know, when we have professional responsibilities, responsibilities at home, women, they have to learn how to think of themselves. Yes, but that takes time because you never did it. You always thought of others before. You always sacrificed for the family.

It's all a humiliation to think of her. All those women who were with me yesterday, before yesterday in Quebec, in the afternoon I met ambassadors, women ambassadors in Quebec. Listen, fabulous women, but who had all the children and the wives, you know, it's not women who are men, it's real women with wives and children who have become ambassadors, it's extraordinary. I like it when you say women.

It means that it's women who don't try to play with men. Because there was a time when they had to play in the men's court. Listen, not so long ago, Madame Marois, we took off all the earings, all the earings, so that she looked like a man, except that she had pants on, and she dressed like a man, except that she had pants on. She was like a man and incomplete. So, you know, it's not her who wanted that.

We didn't take her seriously. It's over at that time. Thank you, Jeannette Bertrand. Thank you, Marie-Claude. Really. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, but look, a standing ovation.

Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's Marie-Claude. It's Marie-Claude's fault. No, but Jeanette, you're always on the train. Jeannette, well, bravo, you look, take advantage of that, that's love. Do you trust yourself?

Yes, I take it. I take it like that. That's love, Jeannette, and you keep inspiring us. So, do we say, next Au prochain ouvre ton jeu »? « Au prochain »? « Au prochain ouvre ton jeu »! We never say « 203 »! So, it's the first time... Don't push!

Well, we throw that into the universe. And I want to say thank you to everyone for being there for this... for somewhere the 100th « ouvre ton jeu » and the 100th anniversary of Jeannette. We meet in relation to that. We're meeting about that. Thank you for being here. It's been an honor and a real pleasure. Thank you very much. This episode was presented by Karine Jonquas,

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