Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #102 Anthony Kavanagh | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone, welcome to Open Your Game, the podcast. I want to thank our partners right away because we have a new one this week and I want to take the time to talk about it. Obviously, in our partners, we have the Marie Club, which is the space of better being, where we have several members, where we have a reading club, we have workshops on many topics, such as, for example, this month, it's the habits, the healthy habits of life. The month past was women's health. We are connected with menopause, hormonal therapy, and all these workshops are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. And we also do workshops where we meet the members virtually.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 which are without advertising a week in advance. And on the platform also Patreon or Patreon, depending on how you pronounce it. Patreon is really a platform where there are several podcasts. So we have, like our channel, our space, which is called Ouvre Ton Jeu, where there are levels, it's paying, each level is paying. And it's a week in advance, without advertising. And there, we added an element to the Ouvre Ton Jeu Patreon. There will be a question that I will ask in the Ouvre Ton Jeu, but which will only be available on Patreon. And it's our new partner coming, it's the Spa Eastman. Why the Spa Eastman? Because for me, it's my quiet place.

Starting point is 00:02:32 When I go to that place, I like to sleep there, I like to experience it. Jocelyna Dubuc, the instigator of this incredible spa, I've known her for a long time, I got her on TV. I love her way of seeing health, of seeing food. And I wondered how we could make a partnership with the Isman spa. So she said, listen, we could possibly offer forfeits, gifts to your subscribers. And so I said, well, if we do that, we could do a new level, which is the Spiesman level, and we would put it on Patreon at that time.

Starting point is 00:03:17 So it starts today. Our guest will be the first to answer this question. So I remind you, if you're ever interested in this kind of well-being, better help experience, it's in, it's obviously in Eastman, in the canton of the East, and it's really all included when you go to this SPA. And there are a lot of interventions for your health, there are care. Listen, you can go to their website, SPA Eastman.

Starting point is 00:03:44 So today, there will be the first. Today, we will ask a question about well-being, among other things, in connection with our guests. I would like to thank Caroline Dionne for the coordination, David Bourgeois for the online presentation, Jonathan Frechette for the digital creation, Maëlle Lodvin for the capture, and Jeremy Boucher for the social networks. Our guest today is someone who can be explosive, Maëlle Le Devin at the Captation, Jérémie Boucher at the social networks. Our guest today is someone who can be explosive, so I can't wait to see how it will go. Because every time I received him in different shows, I said to myself, I have to let him go.

Starting point is 00:04:18 He's someone who can take the place, sometimes he's more introverted. But when he decides to explode, we let him go and it always gives incredible moments. So I don't know what's going on today. I'm talking about Anthony Cavana. I'm a comedian because he's more of a comedian. He's animated, he sings, he does so many things. He's been in the landscape for so many years, including Quebec, even though he's been doing career elsewhere. I've been wanting to receive Anthony for a long time, and he was available to come and meet us. So I want to say, we have to let ourselves go today. We enter his universe and we'll see if he'll come up with something very humorous will happen,

Starting point is 00:05:05 as I told you in the intro. Will there be a bit of all this? We'll discover it together in their place in Anthony Kavanagh. I have this kind of hypersensitivity where I feel the energy of the others. I go into a room, I know what state they are in. They are like, OK, the day was hard, the week was difficult, So I go into a room, I know what state they are in. The day was hard, the week was difficult,

Starting point is 00:05:29 or it's the middle of the week, they're tired, they're tense, there's been such an event. So you live with that. I feel, I meet someone, I want to spend time with that person. And you adapt again. You have to learn to protect yourself. But you feel that if she's not good, you say, Oh, she's not good.

Starting point is 00:05:48 I don't feel good because she's not good. Or he's not good. And sometimes I will, without wanting to, look for information that I shouldn't go looking for. It's his life, he doesn't get into the bubble. Unconsciously, I'm going to look for information from the other person, and I'm going to say, OK, she's not doing well, she feels that, and I feel it, and then I feel myself. So this hypersensitivity is a gift, and at the same time,

Starting point is 00:06:17 it's... I can't... The term curse is too strong, but it's... A gift is not a gift. Not always a gift. I understand. It's... I don't know, the term curse is too strong. But it's... A gift is not a gift. There you go. Not always a gift.

Starting point is 00:06:29 I understand. Because I'm going to feel... I'm going to feel, I'm going to see... I'm going to see people crying or unhappy, and I feel it. And I feel it, and it makes me cry. While it doesn't belong to you it's like tears in my eyes. So it doesn't belong to you? It doesn't belong to me. I have to talk to myself and say, it doesn't belong to you. It's not yours. Stop.

Starting point is 00:06:51 It's his pain. Don't take his pain. Don't take his pain. Open Your Game is presented by Karine Jonquard, the reference in skin care materials available près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec, et par le Marie-Claude, qui est un espace consacré aux mieux-êtres où on y retrouve plus d'une centaine de classes de maîtres dirigées par des experts disponibles sur mariclaude.com. Les jeux de table Ouvre ton jeu original et l'édition couple sont Edition are available everywhere in Quebec and on Randolph.ca. We really have an international star today. Someone who has done so many different things in her career. When we talk about polyvalence, creativity, talent, charisma, it's perhaps one of the first names that comes to me, at least for a Quebec artist,

Starting point is 00:07:51 that we've known all over the world. Anthony Cavanaugh, hello. Who is this person? It's you, Anthony. It's you. No, but seriously, Anthony, it's incredible when you look at your... Well, thank you, nice presentation already. Thank you. Well, I didn't say much because I could have talked about it for 20 minutes. I just did a summary because I didn't want to get involved, we'll live it together, because you did so many things.

Starting point is 00:08:15 I was lucky enough to go see your Happy show. Thank you for coming, Daya. It was really extraordinary because you have a lot of depth as a humorist. You have a lot of talent. I mean, when you're seen on stage, you feel the experience. You understand? You're elsewhere. You have a...

Starting point is 00:08:37 That's the word, depth. You know, you feel that you've worked, you're... You control the art of the scene. The old man. That's what she meant by the old man! You're a sage! We could say a sage! It's beautiful, a sage! Yes, a sage, yes. But you see, it's when you tell yourself,

Starting point is 00:08:53 I'm going to do my CV, your biography. You say, hey, you've done a lot of things in your life! I quit 10 years ago. I quit, yes, 10 years Neuf ans, dix ans. Non, qu'est-ce que je dis? J'arrête il y a vingt ans. Pourquoi t'arrêtes? Parce que ça va être long. Il y a plein de choses que je dis pas,

Starting point is 00:09:16 il y a plein de choses que je saute, je fais des grands traits. Ce numéro-là, c'est drôle. Il est venu dans un second temps. We did the show's production, we officially started the show in Paris. I did three months in Paris. Then during the summer, for me, a living show is like a human being, it grows. There is gestation in the production, after the first childbirth, then it grows,, it grows, then after three months I'm like, okay, I'm pretty demanding, I surround myself with demanding people. My co-author

Starting point is 00:09:53 also, my producer with whom I've been working for a very, very long time, with whom I co-produced the show in Europe, he's also demanding. It's like, where are we? We're at 70% of the show. So we have to move on. We break everything. Then, what do we do? At the entrance, we broke the toy. It was going very well. People laughed a lot, people were over, people got up at the end.

Starting point is 00:10:21 I said, no, I'm not far enough. We broke everything. We kept the beginning number, the end number, and in the middle we changed everything. We rewrote, we wrote an extra number for the young people. For the young people and those who have not seen me for years or who have just discovered me, it was this biography. And my co-author, as I told him,

Starting point is 00:10:48 I'm talking about the fact that I became a master practitioner and coach in PNL during the lockdown. And I told him a lot about PNL, and we tried to integrate PNL because at the beginning, the show was supposed to be a show to give people things, to help them manage their emotions,

Starting point is 00:11:04 and to give them things from manage their emotions and give them neuroscience tools to understand why. Neurolinguistic programming. Neurolinguistic programming. Neurolinguistic programming. Neurolinguistic programming. Neurolinguistic programming. And to help them understand how their brain works, why we act, how we act.

Starting point is 00:11:23 Basically, we are sages with cell phones. We have the brain we had 100,000 years ago, but technology has evolved much faster. It's 10,000 years old. Technology has evolved much faster than our brain. And it even surpassed us. So, all this to say that... I was talking about it and he said, okay, in PNL, I said it in the show, what do we do? We do a lot of things quickly for those who are watching and who know what PNL is.

Starting point is 00:11:51 It's the art of communication with oneself and others. It's a way to program or reprogram others by using our five senses, the nervous system and language. And in PNL, we study what we call the behaviors and the strategies for success. We take someone who succeeded in an X or Y field and we analyze his recipe, what he or she did to get there. We model it. So in the show, I decided, I studied what people were happy to do to be happy.

Starting point is 00:12:18 And so he says, OK, you're talking to me about that. He was watching my first one-man show. He was watching, he was watching, he was watching. Every week we were writing, and he was watching it, I think three times a week. He said, your first show left a mark on me. And he said, I want to be modeled for your first show. I said, do you know the recipe for your first show?

Starting point is 00:12:39 No. No. I said, once I finished a shoot, it's over. I'm making room for the new show. He said, but I finished a shoot, it's over. I'm going to do some space for the new show. He said, but I'm going to try to find your recipe. And then one morning he called me and said, I found the mechanics of your first show. I found your recipe. I said, well, explain to me, because I don't know.

Starting point is 00:12:54 So he explained to me, he said, you were doing this, that, that and that. He said, what we're going to try to do in this show is do the same mechanics. Not at all the same show. It's not the same show. We're not wearing the same things, but the same mechanics, not the same show at all. It's not the same show, we're not talking about the same things, but the same mechanics. So there's the same madness that the first One Man Show has, with this depth that you're talking about with the keys

Starting point is 00:13:14 that we give or that we share, the common points that people have. And he tells me, you have a number called the Centennials of the Air in your first show, commune qu'on les gens heureux. Pis il me dit, t'as un numéro qui s'appelle les centinels de l'air dans ton pommier chaud, où tu cours à droite à gauche de la scène. Tu cours, tu cours, tap, il y a nu. Le quartier général après, tel endroit, le quartier général, tu cours, tac, tac, tac, tac, tu es épuisé.

Starting point is 00:13:36 Il dit, bon, on va faire la même chose. J'ai dit, tu sais que j'ai, j'ai, j'ai 25 ans de plus. Même 30, 25 mètres than you were at the time. And he says, we're going to find an idea. We climb our heads, we find the idea of bio. We try to make a number to please a younger audience, so that they learn to know me quickly. Those who discover me also learn to know me quickly. Those who discover me also learn to know me quickly.

Starting point is 00:14:05 And something rhythmic, something out of place, a bit... absurd, let's say. And we do that. So we run everywhere, we say, we're going to do your bio.

Starting point is 00:14:18 And we try to find moments of my particular career, and then the fessing, let's say, that allowed me to run, and then I had to find a gag every time with it. Then we tried to mix gag and performance in that number. And that's it. And it works. And it works because, I already knew you, but you've done so many things that we forget the ends anyway. And then, ah yes, she did that, ah yes. And it shows something we forget about. And he's like, ah, yeah, she did that, ah, yeah. And it shows your status when you leave.

Starting point is 00:14:48 It's like, OK, we're here. And everything you do as a sound effect, from yourself, it's strangely impressive. That's what I think there's a lot of dimension in this show. I have the impression that it puts everything you have in the scene. Well, that's what we tried to do. We put everything. Oh yes, it works.

Starting point is 00:15:14 I also wanted to, when we were leaving the COVID period, we had too much material. We had four hours of material. Since we had two years of forced leave, four hours of material, we had four hours of material. So, since we had two years of forced vacation, so four hours of material, we said, what are we going to do? We're going to focus on happiness to do a show. I said, I wanted it to be dynamic, dynamic, effervescent. I wanted...

Starting point is 00:15:36 I saw a lot of people around me who were a little depressed and who weren't doing well. So I said, OK, we have to give back. We have to give back pleasure, we have to make people laugh. It's not a conference. which wasn't going well. So I said, OK, we have to give back. We have to give back some pleasure. We have to make people laugh. It's not a conference, even if there are interesting information. It's not a conference. You saw it, it's very rhythmical. As I'm obsessed with rhythm, we have to press play at the beginning. But we still learn things. You say it's not a conference.

Starting point is 00:16:04 But there are keys. There are keys. That is to say, it's not a conference at all, but there are keys that we could find in a conference. Yes, absolutely. Completely. It's just that I want something to remain when I leave the show. You laugh. Okay. When you leave. Oh yes, I saw something. I laughed. I had a good time. Okay. One week, two weeks, three weeks, one month, two months. Then something happens in your life. You say, he said that in his show, it looks like that. Maybe if I change that or that in my life,

Starting point is 00:16:33 maybe it could improve my daily life. It's a good recipe. These are the things I used to improve my daily life. So I share it. Are you ready to open your game? I'm ready to open the game! Are you ready? You gitana! Ah yes!

Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm going to read your future! The questions are green. You won't answer all of them, Anthony. The questions are green, they are general questions. It's not my future, it's not the tarot you're doing. Not yet. Maybe next year. Everyone has to say that. Well, I would like to do that. Do you know how to do that?

Starting point is 00:17:03 Not at all. Not at all. But it would be fun if I could read through it. The yellow level, it becomes more specific. Green is more general, specific, personal. The red level is sexual and sensual. This is completely new. This answer will only be on Patreon.

Starting point is 00:17:27 Patreon is really a place where you can do podcasts. It's not a Heisman. And we always end up with a question that's sweet. And it's the question of the network. And you have your Joker. The Joker, that's... Which I can use just once, unfortunately. Yeah, that's it.

Starting point is 00:17:42 When you think it's enough, you say, we change, you can give it away. I could make an Yeah, that's it. When you think it's enough, you say, let's change it, you can give it up. I could make an exception. Okay. If you want. So there, you put them on the table, you give me five. I'm going to ask everything?

Starting point is 00:17:52 No, the questions are green. We're going to do it level by level. The questions are green, I'm going to read them to you, the five questions. Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh. Because you're going to feel them. So, yes, exactly. Ah, ah, ah. Thank you. Ah. Yes, exactly.

Starting point is 00:18:08 Thank you. I hesitate between these two, but I'll keep going. So I read them to you. You will choose one to which you will have to answer. And I will also choose one to which you will have to answer. Which person made a difference in your life? To be good with myself, I must. On what character traits did you have to work on? When I look in the mirror, I see. What importance do you give to others?

Starting point is 00:18:34 That's a good question. Very good question. And that's general. Yes, that's general. It's quite personal too, I think. When I look in the memory, I see what? I find it funny. OK. In the morning, when I wake up, my grandfather,

Starting point is 00:18:55 in the afternoon, my father, and in the afternoon, I see myself. I know you, I know you. I know you. What do I see? I see all of that, what I you. I know you. What do I see? I see all of that, what I'm going to tell you. I see, depending on the days, I like what I see.

Starting point is 00:19:14 And at other times, I don't like what I see. When you say, I like what I see, what do you like? When I'm in shape, when I've slept well, I like what I see and I say to myself, hey, you're still well preserved for a 75-year-old man. I think you have a good head. It's good, it's in the age group. I think you still have a good head for your age. Congratulations. Congratulations on your genetics.

Starting point is 00:19:49 I don't have much merit. It's my parents. And I like... the fact that I'm still alive. I like that. I'm still alive. I've lived longer than my mother. That's important. Did you think about going to see her at 51? Yes, at 51 I thought about it. At 51 I was a little stressed. I was thinking, it's been a year since she left.

Starting point is 00:20:23 Did you realize how young she was? Yes. At 51, I said, my God, she left. And I said, but since I had children late, if I left then, what a disaster. Her father left when she was two years old. So she left when she was very young. And so I said, wow, 51, itest... j'ai l'impression que t'as rien fait encore. T'as rien fait à 51. Et c'est bizarre, je me dis que je vais mourir à... ou à 89

Starting point is 00:20:54 ans ou à 250 ans. Et comment ça? Et depuis le 89, j'ai ça en tête depuis... my god, ça fait 20 ans. Je sais pas know why, but one day I thought, you're going to die at 89. I said, OK. And then, at 250, thanks to modern technology, everything was changing. I asked, are you going to have to make a choice?

Starting point is 00:21:20 Do you keep going? And she said, hello, how are you? Yes, my conscience has been transferred in this android. So yes, I tell myself between the two. So when sometimes I'm in stress where you say, can I die tomorrow? Well, no, it's 89, your age.

Starting point is 00:21:43 Does it scare you afraid to age? Age, no. To age badly, yes. So, it's not the age, even, 30 years old. I had a problem at 30 years old. There are some who are 40, we were doing 50 completely. 30 years old, I said, I'm not the 2 anymore. I'm not the 2 in the first number not the 2 anymore in the first number. I'm not in the 20th.

Starting point is 00:22:08 I had depression for 2 or 3 months where I was, I'm not in the 20th anymore. And then it was over. After 40, I don't care. 55, it made me, I'm 55 now. I have a little pressure because I see the 6th coming. I see the 6th coming. I see the 6th coming. I said to myself, I want to do a lot of things in life.

Starting point is 00:22:29 I want to... I said to myself, I don't think I've done anything yet. I want to continue exploring. Do you have the impression that there is a now? Yes. Oh yes. It's installing. Oh yes. And 50 years...

Starting point is 00:22:40 I said, autumn is coming. Winter is coming. I'm in the autumn right now. Winter comes, winter of life, 60, it's the beginning of winter, so I'm at the end of autumn. So I tell myself, I still have energy, there are things you have to do there, because you already don't know what's going to happen. Is it 89 or life is going a little too early, we're a little bit... I don't want to be sick, since I've seen it. I've seen in my surroundings, it's hard to get older, what it's like, people who are in the hospital for 10 years.

Starting point is 00:23:15 I've seen it with my grandmother, I've seen it with... And yeah, I'm not going to be sick. I'm going to be healthy. I'm going to be healthy. who are in the hospital for 10 years. I saw them with my grandmother, I saw them with... And that's it. So, the old age, no. I would like to see my grandchildren,

Starting point is 00:23:35 which is unlikely, but I would like to. How old are your children now? My son is 15 years old and my daughter is 8 and a half. She's going to be 9, 14 May. So, as I said, 8 years later, it's unlikely that I'll be a grandfather, but who knows? You know you're only 89.

Starting point is 00:23:53 Yes, yes. Can you keep them? No! No! What? Don't go in there! I'm... You don't want to keep them, kids. It's good, it's good.

Starting point is 00:24:06 They're good. Did you always want to have kids? Yes, I always wanted to have them. I knew I wanted them. But I had to find the mother of the people. When I was younger, I had told myself that I was going to do like my father, I would have my children at 26.

Starting point is 00:24:22 And then at 26, you're in your career, you're in the middle of it. A year before, I had launched my first show. I didn't have a mother either, so I said, it's not the time. And then, I see that time is passing, and then I go to Europe. And then I say, yes, it's 40 years, the later, it's 40 years. And I started, my wife and I have been together

Starting point is 00:24:51 since I was 33 years old, so it's going to be 22 years next month. I have to think of something. So... You have to take notes. And so I told her when we met, I was 33, she was 28, and I told her, look, I'll tell you right away, so you don't get surprised, I won't tell you, no, you should have told me, no, no, we'll start there. Before we start, I want you to know that I want, at 40 years old, I need to have children. Or later, later at 40.

Starting point is 00:25:25 Not right now, we need to make the most of it. We need to make the most of our couple, we need to make the most of traveling, and all that stuff. But I said, at some point, 40, I'll tell you in advance. Otherwise, I'm going to leave, and I'm going to find a woman who wants children. Because I want some.

Starting point is 00:25:39 Because she didn't want any at first. So I said, I'll tell you right away. Like that, it's clear. Everything is clear, I'm clear all the time. Everything is clear, here are my cards on the table. There's no lie, you know it, you know who you are. Okay. And then, in fact, she was afraid.

Starting point is 00:25:55 She was afraid of being born. That was it. So we went to see someone, and she tried to get rid of that fear, and she had a very beautiful birth. And then... And you were 40 years old. 40 years old. It was my gift for my 40 years. And what did it mean?

Starting point is 00:26:10 Here, you are. Bye! Bye! And it was for my 40 years. It was just wonderful. When she announced it to me, I remember we were both teething. We were like, OK, it's true. She shows me the little test. And she had done it many times. Look at the drawer full of it, for sure.

Starting point is 00:26:40 There was no one else. And who's the father? And I remember we were both like, tainted and saying, OK, it's true, it's over, the adolescence, in eight, nine months, well, there's another being coming into our lives, and we're going to have to get out of our crowd

Starting point is 00:27:03 and take care of someone else. And it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It changes life. A child becomes even more sensitive, becomes even more open to the world, learns a lot of things. I was saying in one of my old shows, a child is the incarnation of time. When you don't have a child, you don't necessarily see the past.

Starting point is 00:27:28 But time is embodied. You see the past. My 15-year-old son, I was looking at him yesterday, and I said, you have long fingers. You're as big as my little man, the little rat I had in my arms. And then I said, look, beautiful boy. And then I said, that's crazy. And I remembered my mother who was 10 years old too, 15 years old. When she saw me one day, she looked at me and said, wow.

Starting point is 00:27:56 And she was, my God, you were premature. I was born two months in advance. So at the time, not even today, but I was very premature. And you were very young, in the cradle. And then I said, look at you, you're older than your father. And so a child already has that. A child learns to get out of himself. I always say that when a child learns to become a parent,

Starting point is 00:28:31 you don't learn to be a child. It's my son who's teaching me to become a father. And that my son doesn't belong to me either. I had integrated him before I saw him. I said, I don't belong to him. It's his life, not mine. I can't impose it on him. I'm a witness. I'm the guide. You push so that you can stand straight. You have to give tools, values.

Starting point is 00:29:01 It's to prepare you to be an adult, but it will be your life, not mine. So, right away, he says, I don't belong. It's not easy all the time. You bring it to autonomy. Yeah, it's not easy all the time. No, no, it's not easy. Sometimes you have to remember it. Yes. When they make decisions, it's his decision.

Starting point is 00:29:18 It's not what I would do, but it's his decision. But you want to be a doctor anyway, that's all. Yes, but I want to be a doctor anyway, that's all. Yes, but I want to be a bank robber like you. But your mouth, bam! You want to be a doctor. So that's how you let him go where he wants. Yes. You want to be a doctor. You can go where you want. As soon as he's a doctor. Engineer maybe. But we have practically the same age.

Starting point is 00:29:39 But me when we were young, I remember for my parents, it was, c'était médecin, ingénieur, avocat, je veux dire ça, c'était la réussite de la famille. Si tu faisais un de ces trois-là, maintenant, on me semble qu'on n'est pas là du tout, mais à l'époque, il y avait quelque chose comme d'un statut social là-dedans. Nous, on n'a pas été là, mais nos enfants, moi quand didn't do medical school for my mother, it was... The end of the world. You have the grades to do it, I don't understand. Because I have no interest, I don't want to be a doctor, but you have the grades, you shouldn't ask questions.

Starting point is 00:30:17 And I didn't go into it at all, and there was really an incomprehension. Why? What did we do wrong? Well, almost. What did we do? Because it, almost. What did we do? Because it was like the prestige. Intelligent. Like the prestige. A prestige.

Starting point is 00:30:29 Why? Now it's YouTuber and influencer. There you go. It changed. I want to be a YouTuber, influencer. You want to be a doctor, YouTuber. Because that was what my son said two or three years ago. I think I'm going to be a YouTuber. OK. And then?

Starting point is 00:30:48 And then I'll be a YouTuber, but what are you going to do? You need content. Is that it? To be a YouTuber? Yes, that's interesting. But what do you bring? There's nothing easy about it, basically. The question I choose, Anthony, is which person made a difference in your life? There are several. My parents, both of them. The first difference is that, it's the parents

Starting point is 00:31:11 who made a difference in my life. After that, it's a succession of meetings that time. My wife, my close friends who are still my friends today, people I met in my career, who were there at the right time, even if it went well or badly, but who taught me something. You realize as you age that every person you meet is a teacher. Even if you don't realize it? On the neck.

Starting point is 00:31:47 But sometimes they have the good role, sometimes they have the bad role. But it's to teach you something. And sometimes... I remember a moment in my life where I said... I was in Europe and there were a lot of sharks. It's not at all... It's the world of the culling bears in Quebec compared to showbiz, compared to the MAM. The bigger the market, the more it plays. The more you cut it, the more it's... And I said, well, I see that there are a lot of sharks. I need a shark to protect me too.

Starting point is 00:32:33 Because I said, I'm not a shark. You need a shark. The nature of the shark is... You shouldn't forget the nature of the shark. As soon as there's blood in the water, if it's your blood, you're the one who's going to eat it. And what's the blood? It's money. The blood in the showbiz is money.

Starting point is 00:32:52 So at first he was with you, and if there's money, it's you, he's going to bite you. It's the scorpion and the frog crossing the river, and the scorpion says, let me cross the frog. Let me climb on your back to cross the frog. Then cross the frog or cross the river. The frog says no, you're going to sting me. la grenouille. Laisse-moi monter sur ton dos pour traverser la grenouille. Puis, traverse la grenouille ou traverser la rivière. La grenouille dit, non, tu vas me piquer. Il dit, mais non, je vais pas te piquer. Laisse-moi traverser. Tu vas me piquer.

Starting point is 00:33:11 Mais non, tu vas me piquer. J'ai dit, ce serait con que je te pique. Si je te pique, on meurt tous les deux. Bon, après une demi-heure, la grenouille dit OK. Il monte, arrive au milieu de la rivière. Pop, le scorpion pique la grenouille. Puis la grenouille fait, mais pourquoi? C'est in my nature.

Starting point is 00:33:26 So when you understand that, you say, well, there are times when you say, okay, I wanted to have a shark to protect me, but you forget the nature of the shark. And then you pay the price to have it. It defends you, but it's a shark too. So you paid for it. And I paid the price. I was the frog in the middle.

Starting point is 00:33:50 And also sometimes you... The first time I thought about it, sometimes the people you meet, the people who are in your life, are often the reflection of your inner self. Sometimes, you're the part of yourself that you don't want to see, the shadow part that is inside you, that you don't want to accept, especially in our profession. In our profession, we're nice, we're smiling,

Starting point is 00:34:23 we're always in a good mood, especially when you're a comedian, you have to have a good laugh. And at 7am, you're waiting for a train. Hey, do you want a joke? Do you want a joke? At 7am, I slept for 3 hours. No, I don't want to do that. But hey, smile. There are expectations. You have to always be like the person we saw on TV.

Starting point is 00:34:47 And sometimes you are, and sometimes you're just tired. Well, anyway. And sometimes I noticed that there were people around me, but it was a reflection of me. It was a reflection of a shadow that you wouldn't see. I'd like to be like that. I'd like to be like him. To be able to express myself like him.

Starting point is 00:35:14 To be... mean. I'm not going to say mean, but... less diplomat, let's say. Very rude. Very rude to take off. but less diplomatic, let's say, very rough, very rough to cut. And then, the countries teach you things. I lived in France, I lived in Switzerland, I lived in Quebec, I traveled a lot, so each country teaches you something.

Starting point is 00:35:37 France taught me things. Which made me... We just answered a card. No, you have the second one. We'll go to the next level. Do I talk too much? No, you don't talk too much. Do I wait until we move on to something else? No, no, but finish. I'll talk for a minute.

Starting point is 00:35:57 Oh yes. Each... Oh my God, we just did two cards. We did two cards. It's three hours of cards. Almost before. It's gone. He'll come back next week for the four yellow cards. He'll come back next week for the four yellow cards.

Starting point is 00:36:16 And so, I have each country, you learn I was able to evolve, to have the chance and the honor to evolve in several countries. Why? Because if I have a talent, it's adaptation. I was able to adapt in my life from primary school until today, but in many different situations. To adapt, I'm just going to make a little aside.

Starting point is 00:36:51 We talked a few times in the podcast here, and you know, I have the impression that we talked a few times with my grandfather from Grenoble, because he said it adapted a lot, and I adapted a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, like you, when I was young. And at one point, it blew me away, because I didn't know who I was. I was always the result of what people wanted. Did you have that impression at one point? Yes, yes. I had this impression, more so the fact that I suffered from sleep, so I never slept. And I didn't know. So you never sleep, you're always tired. You're not by your pump. I was by my pump.

Starting point is 00:37:29 So what does sleep do? It helps you recover physically and mentally. It's evacuating the surplus. It evacuates the surplus and it's classifying all the events of the day. I'm classifying one, then the rest is thrown away. So I wasn't classifying much. And so, away. So I didn't really do much in class. And so one day, you don't know who you are anymore. I was so sleepy that I didn't know who you were anymore.

Starting point is 00:37:54 And it's easier to adapt than to ask others to adapt. It also requires energy to make these points worth it. Absolutely. You don't have that energy. Everything becomes a mountain. You need to rely on other people. Unfortunately, you become dependent sometimes. Other people who take advantage of it. That's where they take advantage of it. You don't have a defense mechanism. Yes, and you don't have the strength. You don't necessarily see everything.

Starting point is 00:38:18 You're so tired when you're told, look, I'll help you, I'll take care of it. Okay, thank you, because it's huge. And then, with hindsight, you say, well, it's not that huge. But it's just that when you're too tired, too exhausted, that's what happens. And so, yes, it happened to me to ask myself, who am I now?

Starting point is 00:38:42 Who am I? Even being so exhausted that, I say, my weight of humanity was too heavy for me. I was telling myself, if I die, I don't want to commit suicide, but if I die, it doesn't bother me. If I talk about it, I'm so tired. It's so heavy for me to carry my carcass, to keep all the energy of the day to do the show in the evening, and then to be tired afterwards, and to say, if it stops, it doesn't bother me.

Starting point is 00:39:13 I don't want to leave, but it doesn't bother me. It was like you were seeing it, almost like a big rest. Yes. I won't be able to sleep for a long time. Did you consult yourself at that time to understand why you were so tired? I consulted lots of doctors who didn't know what sleep apnea was. So you have lots of specialists that you go, ah, but your hormones are slow and we're going to do this test, and I'm going to give you this medicine,

Starting point is 00:39:38 and you're depressed, I'm going to give you this, and it aggravates everything we were given. It aggravated sleep apnea. So you're not depressed, you're just tired. I'll give you 100 and it aggravates everything that I was given. It aggravated sleep apnea. So you're not depressed, you're just... Because you can become depressed or not sleep. Completely. You know, it's a state...

Starting point is 00:39:52 Completely. There are lots of diseases that come from sleep apnea. Well, yes. They are from sleep apnea. And so I had several as I went on. But he didn't understand the source of... No, that's right, they didn't understand why. I still remember an endocrinologist that I went to see,

Starting point is 00:40:14 and I said, I'm sure my testo is on the ground. But no, at your age, Mr. Cavalli, at your age, but no! Oh, artists, you are all hypochondriac, and stuff like that. I know, I was an artist, and the artist already gives me names of his patients. No, I don't need to know that, it's already okay. And then we're all, I say, I'm not hypochondriac. I say, I'm not hypochondriac. I know my body.

Starting point is 00:40:42 And then when we announced the results, he said, oh fuck, I say, excuse me, you didn't say that. I was right. You didn't say I was hypochondriac. No, it was a joke. You know... I was right. I went to see another specialist once I got my results.

Starting point is 00:40:58 And so, every time, he didn't know why. It was just when I got to the end, the end, the end of the end of the end, where they came to pick me up thinking I was having a heart attack. And I said, OK, I'm going to die at 37 in the basement of my parents' house in Switzerland, in the adolescent's room of my beautiful brother. I said, what a shitty death.ai dit, quelle mort de merde.

Starting point is 00:41:25 J'ai dit, quelle mort de merde. Et l'ambulance vient me chercher, avec les ambulanciers qui me demandaient des billets de spectacles, parce que je jouais le lendemain, je suis en train de mourir, qui me demandent trois ou quatre fois des billets de spectacles. On arrive aux urgences, ils demandent à ma femme, et c'est possible pour les billets, c'est possible pour les billets. Et le médecin qui me dit, en fait, vous avez fait une crise d'angoisse aiguë, And it's possible for the good. It's possible for the good. And the doctor said to me,

Starting point is 00:41:45 you actually had a severe anxiety attack. And so my sound engineer said, look, I have a friend who went to see a pneumologist. He was having a little sleep and he was in a bad shape. I went to see him and he said, next time it's the real thing. Next time you won't have a severe anxiety attack He was in a bad shape, like you are. I went to see her and she told me, next time, it's real. Next time, you won't feel a high anxiety crisis

Starting point is 00:42:09 because it imitates the infarctus. Yes, well yes. All the symptoms of the infarctus. She said, next time, it's real. She said, you are 10 years older than your age. She looks at... We did all the tests. You were still exhausted.

Starting point is 00:42:20 10 years older than your age physically. At the hormonal level, at all levels. You are oxidative. You are 10 years older than your physical age. At the hormonal level, at all levels, you're oxidizing. You're 10 years older. So I don't even know how you work, how you stand up. You never sleep, actually. I did a police ethnography where you spend the night in the hospital with a branch everywhere. And we realized that you go down to a half-sleep cycle.

Starting point is 00:42:43 Which means you only lose consciousness. You lose consciousness, but you and a half of sleep. Which means you're only losing knowledge. You're losing knowledge, but you're losing knowledge, that's all. But you're not sleeping. You're not physically, mentally, psychologically recovering everything. So you're always awake. Your body is always awake. So I don't even know how you manage to hold on to it. She came to see the show and she said...

Starting point is 00:43:05 And so my surplus of energy and youth made me hold on until my body cracked. And you're under oxygenated, your brain is under oxygenated all the time. And that for 20 years. So today I have memory problems. In the sense that there are bits of my life that I have forgotten. Oh, at that point. So it's not forgetting words, looking for street names or things like that? That too. I've had that. It still happens to me. But bits of your life?

Starting point is 00:43:40 Yes, I have bits of my life that, as it affects the lack of oxygen in the brain for years. It affected my memory. So I have parts of my life that ask me, at that age, what were you doing? And I don't remember anymore. So I have big parts of my life that die. I didn't know we could lose consciousness, not even sleep. It's just that the body is looking for a way to survive. On pouvait comme tu viens de dire, tu sais, perdre connaissance, même pas de dormir. C'est juste que le corps est comme en...

Starting point is 00:44:05 Il cherche un moyen de... J'étais en veille. En veille? T'étais en veille? En veille, en mode veille. On l'a en mode veille, mais ça tu récupères pas. Ta batterie elle charge pas à ce moment-là. C'est même pas en mode avion, c'est mode veille.

Starting point is 00:44:17 En veille? Quand même. Est-ce que t'es prêt à passer au niveau jaune? Je suis prêt à passer au niveau jaune. Deux cartes, huit heures. Deux cartes, huit heures. Donc je vais essayer de parler vite. Tu m'en donnes quatre s'il te pla level. Two cards, eight hours. Two cards, eight hours. So I'm going to try to speak quickly. Give me a card please.

Starting point is 00:44:32 Two cards, eight hours. Yes, no. That's personal. Because the other one is not personal. That was general, that was specific. That's personal. Sorcerer! What is the biggest challenge you've had to overcome? What is your biggest...

Starting point is 00:44:50 Come here! Next question! What is your biggest complex? What type of lover are you? And what did you not receive from your parents and who did you miss? Alright. Okay. What do I have to do? Do I choose one? You choose one and I choose another. After that, I don't choose any more. What is... The biggest challenge to face is to...

Starting point is 00:45:17 I have several. The biggest challenge to face is to be still there after 35 years. 35 years of career. It's not... d'être encore là après 35 ans, 35 ans de carrière, que c'est pas un... Quand je parle à des jeunes humoristes ou à des jeunes artistes, je leur dis toujours, c'est pas un sprint, c'est un marathon. C'est pas un sprint, les amis, c'est un marathon. Et l'humour... J'avais parlé à des gens de la génération qui m'a précédé, I had spoken to people from the generation that preceded me,

Starting point is 00:45:47 and they explained to me that, when I was about my age, I was too tired. They stopped because they were often tired. It was too demanding to do a show. To do a tour, in fact. It's a youth sport. Tour shoot, to be alone on a stage, to occupy the stage, to occupy the energy. And in my thing, it gives me a lot of energy. I run everywhere, I don't stop. I want to give you happiness, love.

Starting point is 00:46:19 I want to give the audience happiness. I want you to get out happy, joyful from the show. And so, to be there again, to have the happiness, the luck, everything we want, even if I believe we create our luck. You work for it. I work for it. To say, I do doing the job I love since I was 35. Since I was 19, sorry. So it's going to be 36 in July. So that's the biggest challenge.

Starting point is 00:46:53 To say, well, you're there, I've seen several generations of artists, I've seen several artists do this and that, to go down as fast as they go up. To last. To last. Have you been, at some point... To reinvent yourself. The biggest challenge is to reinvent yourself. To understand that at each show, you have to try to find something.

Starting point is 00:47:16 Have you ever been envious to see an artist who climbs fast and you say, well... Yes. When you're young, when you're young, when you start, yes, you feel it. And the comedians, we're like young people, we often go to a boxing match and we're going to fight, and we're going to fight with the audience, and we have to be strong, and we have to be here. And there's the sprinter side too, sprinters are is the ego. You have to run faster than the other. And then there's him. And so you look at certain people. And then you learn

Starting point is 00:47:52 how to do... This person is not there for nothing. Then you look at... You take a kind a helicopter view. You say, she's not there for nothing, she worked hard. And then, lucky, look even higher. Luck, he had it. Yes, he was lucky, he took advantage of that luck, he worked hard.

Starting point is 00:48:21 He had other bad luck in his life than you. That you had this bad luck that he didn't. So, you are all in the right place. He does his race for himself, you do yours. So, in the show, I say, stop comparing yourself to others. Compare yourself to who you were yesterday and not to someone else today. Just letting go of that, it changes your life. I'm always admiring the success of others.

Starting point is 00:48:53 That, on the other hand, I've always been. Even if sometimes I can be envious, but I'm always admiring. Now I don't have any more desire. I haven't had it in a long time, by the way. But I'm always admiring success. I know that... I was told several times in France that it was one of the rare artists who is happy to see another artist succeed. You're happy to see another artist...

Starting point is 00:49:16 We're not trying to find its weakness. No, but I'm happy to see that. Yes, because you know how difficult it is too. I know how difficult it is, and I go further than that. If this artist is good, if this artist is successful, the people who move are like, hey, I'm going to see... You have humor, even a singer, I liked that. I want to see others again.

Starting point is 00:49:37 So his success can help me too. Yes, that's true. Because I went to see... you know, I laugh. Yes. I... At my first one, I have people who I talked to after, who told me, it's the first time I'm going to see a show of humor. I knew you, I followed you for years, but I had never seen you on Saturday, it's the first time I'm going to see a show of humor. I said, but I hope you'll go see others after.

Starting point is 00:50:00 She said, but yes, it's great. And it's much better in real life. I said, but yes, a comedian, And it's much better in real life. I said, yes, a comedian needs to be seen in real life. What you see, the screen capture is the shadow of a show. It's not the show, it's the shadow of a show. It's a Polaroid of a show. It's not at all what... But it's so true what you say, because when you leave a show, when you're around like you're holding it, it feels good.

Starting point is 00:50:23 You say, hey, you need to have others. You have to come out more often. It's the reflex that comes. Like a singer, a singer says, we're not going to have enough musical performances, musicals, but I understand so much. But it's a great quality to appreciate and admire the others who do the same thing as us. Even when, for example, you have a goal, you say, well, I want to do this, I'm going to be the first to do this. And then there's someone else who does it before you. Instead of doing it, fuck, he did it before me. Okay, well, you say, well done, you did it before me.

Starting point is 00:50:53 And above all, look, it's possible. Someone who did it, did you see? It's possible. I had the answer to your question, do you believe? Yes, it's possible. And then the path was drawn. Once it's possible, once the path has been drawn. Once it's possible, once a human being has achieved something,

Starting point is 00:51:08 we saw it... If someone in the United States is calculating in a thousand, the thousand of running in less than four minutes, well, there's no one who managed to do it during the history of humanity. And there's one person who managed to do it at the end of the 50s. And then there are lots of people who managed to run 1.6 km in less than 4 minutes. Because they believe. Because it happened.

Starting point is 00:51:35 There's someone who managed to do it. The road is drawn. Suddenly, it's possible. And it's in the field of possibilities of all humanity. People say, ah, well, it's possible. Well, we can do it. There's someone who did it. And how do you get there? Because we know it's possible. Running 100 possibilities for all of humanity. People say, oh, well, it's possible. Well, we can do it. There's someone who did it. And how does it happen?

Starting point is 00:51:46 Because we know it's possible. So we don't have to be in the void. Running 120 in less than 10 seconds. There's someone who did it, and then suddenly there are lots of people with a maybe. But they still succeeded. But you're right. You're right.

Starting point is 00:52:00 What question am I going to ask you? Wait. Well, I'm going to ask with which type of lover are you? Hmm... That's a very good question. In which level? What type of lover are you talking about? I want to tell you, even in your daily life,

Starting point is 00:52:22 in your way of showing manifesting your love or... Woman, bring me food! That's exactly what I thought! No, I'm... I like to compliment my wife. I like to tell her she's beautiful. I like to make little jokes in the head. You know, there's some... We hold hands.

Starting point is 00:52:49 You're affectionate. Yes, I'm affectionate. I'm physically affectionate. I'm... I say, hey, there's a table that separates us. I'll touch you. Normally. Okay, because you're a tactile.

Starting point is 00:52:58 Yes. I say, hey, well, yes, you know, I'll touch you. It's okay. It's your thing. Even Mario called me. He said, hey, don't touch my wife. But the time, the week of time, the time is not simple. The time is not simple, the peace, the peace is solid.

Starting point is 00:53:13 And so I said, oh, it's fine. So yes, I'm a fan. I'm someone who's a fan. And... Are you romantic? Are you... Romantic? It's weird, I'm... Is it because it's been 22 years? I'm less romantic than I was at the beginning. I must admit it. I'm less romantic than at the beginning.

Starting point is 00:53:37 I was very romantic even when I was younger. My God, teenager, early twenties, I even had blue flowers. You're a blue flower, and you have all sorts of fantasies, and you're the servant knight, and you have everything to do, and you're a gentleman, and... You... After that, you have disappoint you... You have disappointments. You have disappointments.

Starting point is 00:54:08 And then, strangely, I was younger, in my twenties, yes, in my twenties, I was perhaps more feminine in energy, too, than now. And I would always find myself with girls where I communicated more than the girls. In the most feminine way. Yes, and more... The emotions...

Starting point is 00:54:36 We share emotions, I was with girls who were more masculine than them, who couldn't express themselves. I don't understand why people say that girls express themselves better than men. I say it's wrong. Emotions are just a card on the table. We share. I have to say, what do you feel? What do you think? She was stuck with that.

Starting point is 00:54:57 And then, at some point, you equalize your male and female side. And then, it's weird. It's not weird. You realize your masculine and feminine side. And then, it's weird, isn't it? It's not weird. You realize that when you change your inner self, the outside changes. And that's changed enough. Everything you project after changes.

Starting point is 00:55:15 You change inside, you modify as you are inside, you equalize the two energies, masculine and feminine, and then... But did you do a job to equalize that? Yes, yes, yes. I did some work alone. And when you talk to a professional, you talk about that. And you realize certain things that you...

Starting point is 00:55:35 I also realized that, for example, my mother was... What did I say at the time? That I had reversed the male and the female. That my mother was the male and my father the female. Because it was my father who was physically affectionate. And not my mother. And it was my mother who was ambitious. And who was going all out. My mother was ambitious and she was a real fighter. My father was very jovial, he had a lot of friends.

Starting point is 00:56:11 His sense of humor was his. He was a charismatic, ultra charming man. He charmed everyone. I would go with him to the races. I saw him. We went on vacation together once. It was crazy. Everyone liked him. We went on a trip. I think after the second day at lunch, he said, Where is your father? It's not hello. Where's your father? It's not hello, it's where's your father?

Starting point is 00:56:46 And he was so charming. He had this talent. He was teaching. These students I still meet talk about him. He was my favorite teacher. He was great. He had that side. And yet my mother was physically very feminine,

Starting point is 00:57:08 she always dressed very well, always well dressed, my two parents by the way. But she maybe had this masculine energy. My father was more sensitive, I saw my mother cry in my life maybe three times, three or four times in my life. And my father... He cried with tears in his eyes, but I could see him. We could watch a movie, we could watch a movie.

Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, that's it. Ooh, allergies! He didn't want to say it. I saw that he was very sensitive and that it touched him. Did it bother you to be more feminine? Yes, yes. Yes, at one point, because I wanted to be more balanced. You didn't feel balanced in that situation?

Starting point is 00:58:08 That the feminine was too strong. I had to be balanced. I was also in my masculine. And to feel better in life, with my interactions with people, with women too. Because women also look for a man. Did you feel that from women? I did. It's because I was attracted by a lot of masculine women.

Starting point is 00:58:46 Masculine. And I was... There was no kind of... I wasn't dominated by anything. But they had a masculine energy. Did the girls you attracted, did you feel like you were their best friend? Did you have a feminine side?

Starting point is 00:59:13 Good question. The... Good question, my God. I have to go and scratch. This job... I started when I was 19. So, when you start this job, and when you start to see popularity, and when you become the pretty girl, it's you.

Starting point is 00:59:40 Because girls come to you more easily. You don't have to chase them. So, I also know what caused that, partly. There's education, there's... I'm the first generation of pink men, raised by feminists in the 70s. We used to tell girls, well, you can do whatever you want,

Starting point is 01:00:06 be strong, be ambitious, and tell men, raise your emotions, relax, and talk. Be less a man like we don't like. I don't want to use the term toxic, because for me, toxic masculinity doesn't exist. In that case, we should say that femininity is toxic too.

Starting point is 01:00:34 I say there are toxic people and there are people who aren't. I understand. There isn't a gender. There isn't a toxic gender. And so, why do I... And this job, which I'm not going to talk about for everyone, makes you turn off or repress masculine instincts sometimes that you have. That I have on stage, that I use on stage, on the other hand, it comes out on stage, or it's me the boss on stage, that I use on stage, however, it comes out on stage, or it's me the boss on stage.

Starting point is 01:01:06 And in this kind of, in the job I do, especially when you're a comedian, especially when I come from the school of bars, of cafes and theaters, and you start and you have guys in the room, you have to manage, you have to manage the room, you have to manage the guys, you have to manage... The authoritarian side was coming out. Yes, you have to stay. You have to always remind people that you are the boss. Like at the first, at some point, someone who... You put your limits. And right away, he said, you're not going to spoil my first, you.

Starting point is 01:01:37 It was like... We understood him, you put him in his place. And right away, close, efficient, quick and I put it back in place. And then, I was told that there was another guy. The second time, it was another guy. I thought it was the same guy, but I put it back in place because I didn't want to ruin my first one. I'm coming back to Quebec, it's my first one.

Starting point is 01:02:00 And at the same time, I managed it in my life. And you felt like you had the experience. Yes, yes, a lot of times. And I said, if you want to play that, you play with the bad person. And I remember at the time when I was younger, I have less of that side now, where I said, ah, you want to play that? I said, it's my job, let's go, let's go.

Starting point is 01:02:18 And then I took a stupid pleasure to say, let's play that. Go, come on. You want to try to take the top on me? Go ahead. And then I was beating the person until you understood. And then I was like, ah, you understood, that's good. And then you... And I said, that's my job. That's my job. That's what I do. And that's your scene when you're playing.

Starting point is 01:02:35 I said, let me work. I said, do I come to your work? You're like, uh-huh, I see with your pencils, then... Look at your computer with the clicks. Am I going to do this in your job? No, don't come to my job, it's bothering me. So I put myself in place and I don't have that side anymore where I could get angry inside more easily. It's just there, I did it.

Starting point is 01:02:57 Ah, he has to, he believes himself to be allowed. We're not on TV. You're not watching, you're not in your living room on TV. You had to replace him immediately. And then I have to be careful with my tone, because then I can, if I go too far, you know, you learn that too over time. Then you lose the rest of the audience, but he's mean.

Starting point is 01:03:14 He's not hungry, you see how he changed in one go. And then you have to be careful too, not to lose, not to be too hard on the person. Not to lose the rest. I understand. There's like a malaise that's going on. A malaise is just quickly putting it in place, making a gag so that it's funny. And we continue.

Starting point is 01:03:33 Not humiliating it either, but just reminding it that it's not the right place. And it warns the others that, OK, we're not going there. We're not going there. Don't come there. OK, there's the show. And we're going back. So on stage, the more masculine side is there. Your side is more masculine. Yes, I let it out.

Starting point is 01:03:56 But in life, this job makes there are sides for me, once again, that I had to repress or put off sometimes. The side where you have a table in your back that doesn't come anywhere. In real life, you turn around and you're ready to hit the person. There you know that the table in the back is someone who recognized you. And then... You go all... normally you go all... you push or you're ready to fight. I know that bam, I have to do, I go, hey, there's a table, it's like, okay, hi, and

Starting point is 01:04:35 then, hey, I love you. And then, nobody jumps on your arms and animal side, where you say, OK. Or... The worst is when you're a man, you become an artist, you say, it's great, I'm going to have success with women, and it's going to be cool. And then, what interested me at the end was the only girl who doesn't look at me, it's her who interests me.

Starting point is 01:05:10 That was the challenge. Because you say, well, I'm going somewhere, and there are a lot of girls who come to talk to you, who look at you, and there are none who... I was telling myself at the time, there are none who love, even for me, they saw a guy on TV and they were interested in it.

Starting point is 01:05:31 And you say, well, it's... It's the advantage of having that. She doesn't care. I had discussed with a woman, with whom I was working, who said to me, you're stupid guys, you think it's trophies, it's you who's the trophy. She said, it's not the girl you met yesterday in a bar,

Starting point is 01:05:52 it's not her the trophy, it's you the trophy, because it's her who's going to tell everyone she was with you. To all her friends, and she was going to talk to everyone, and I was with her last night. She said, it's you the trophy, it's not her. But it's important to know. Yes, I was 19 or 20 when she told me that. I was starting. And so I had that side where I didn't like the night.

Starting point is 01:06:16 I hated that. And then I ended up going out with my friends because I trusted them. To go out with my friends because I trusted them. To girls who were my friends. So you knew what I meant. Because I trusted them and I knew that she was the same for me. Yes, and not the character. That's it. She was the same for me.

Starting point is 01:06:37 And so... So what made me... I didn't like the nightclubs, I didn't like the... You know, like, yes, you're happy with the attention. Voilà. Donc ce qui faisait que j'aimais pas les coups d'un soir, j'aimais pas les... T'sais comme j'ai... Oui, t'es content de l'attention, t'aimais pas de cette attention. Ça allait dans le bassin de tes amis. Voilà. Donc des amis qui me connaissaient avant ou qui étaient devenus mes amis, bon après ça devenait autre chose que de l'amitié, puis... Mais j'étais... Je pouvais baisser la garde. Et dire, elle, je sais que c'est moi qu'elle aime. But I was, I was, I could lower the guard and say, I know that it's me she loves.

Starting point is 01:07:07 It's not the guy she saw on TV or on stage. But yet, it's me too. That's the kind of side a little... But it's the, it's the relationship that is particular. It's the pretext of why we're going to you. Maybe one... But yet, now with a look back, it's me too. The But now, with hindsight, it's me too. The guy she saw on stage, it's me too.

Starting point is 01:07:29 Yes. And that... But there's an notion of popularity too. Yes, but I can see men around me who were profiting from it. Yes. Alas. You were too protected in the situation. Yes, and I was... I found myself so too honest with women.

Starting point is 01:07:46 I told the truth, I was direct, I was honest all the time. And my friends who lied had a much easier life than me. I didn't understand, I told my friends who lied, they had a much easier life with women than me, who always told the truth. What did you tell women, that you weren't interested? I said, look, I don't want a serious relationship. I'm not ready for that. I'm telling you right now. So... You didn't let things go.

Starting point is 01:08:17 I said, I'm telling you right now. And if you want us to continue seeing each other, know that when we're together, I'll be 100% with you. We're going to the restaurant, we'll do this. You'll never see me look at another girl. We'll do this. But when you leave, your life is your life. I won't ask you any questions. You told them that.

Starting point is 01:08:38 If you don't want a lie, I won't ask you any questions. But I'm honest. That's before we move forward. what it is before we move forward. It was always before we continued. You needed clarity. There was no girl who could come back and say, but you told me... No, I never told you that. I was always, from the beginning, before anything.

Starting point is 01:08:59 Did a lot of people leave after that truth? No, they stayed even longer. Because they said, I'm going to have her. And then after a year, I said, wait, what did I tell you? What did we tell you? Yes, but it's because... Listen to your sentence, listen to your sentence. Listen to your sentence.

Starting point is 01:09:18 You thought that... Did you validate that with me? No. What did I tell you? But do you have the impression that when you talk to me about that, No. Qu'est-ce que je t'ai dit? Mais est-ce que t'as l'impression que quand tu me parles de ça, j'ai l'impression qu'il n'y a pas tant d'amour? Il y avait de l'affection. Il y avait beaucoup d'affection. Il y avait de la tendresse.

Starting point is 01:09:34 Mais... Ton coeur ne s'abandonnait pas. Je n'ouvrais mon coeur à quelqu'un. Je te donne un exemple. Quand je disais que j'étais Fleur Bleu, my second love, my second girlfriend, who made me feel like I was really in love, it broke my heart in a thousand pieces. And it took me four years at the time to open my heart to someone else.

Starting point is 01:10:00 Four years, I was single. That's it. You were hurt. Yes. Four years, I was like. That's it. You've had a hard time. Yes. Four years, I said, no, that's it. I won't let anyone cross that line anymore. And then, well, that's it. The line stops there. And then, I'll have to be sure of the person in front of me before I open my heart.

Starting point is 01:10:22 So, I'm a little more difficult. And what's strange is that I noticed the person who is in front of me before I open my heart. So I'm a little more difficult. And what's strange is that I noticed the biggest seducers, really the big seducers that I've ever met in my life. There's a story between... There's a story like... They were blue flowers, they fell in love, very young, heartbroken, and the poor they spent their lives.

Starting point is 01:10:50 It's like they were taking revenge all their lives. I won't let anyone do that to me a second time. You let them do that before they let you do it. Yes, that was it. And even when I was going to scratch, I scratched scratching, I was scratching, as the human being interests me. I listened, I was scratching, I was scratching, I was going further away. They were still in love with that person who had broken their heart. And I said, if that person called you tomorrow and said, come back to my life,

Starting point is 01:11:18 he said, right away, I'll let go of everything, I'll come back. And I'm faithful. There was still blood at the bottom. When you were scratching, yes, at the beginning, after, three was still that, deep down. When you were scratching, yes, at the beginning, after three, four beers, five beers, six beers, you kept scratching and then you said yes. Did you have that for a long time? You say you had a bad 4 years, but did the traces stay long? After 4 years?

Starting point is 01:11:41 Yes. No, after 4 years, I decided to open my heart. I wanted to be a different person, I wanted to try again. But I didn't let anyone in. I was careful for a long time. I was like, OK, you. Thank you. And often it was friends, or people I knew for a long time. And then I found my wife,

Starting point is 01:12:15 we met and she lived in London, and then she came back to live in Switzerland. So she arrived in Switzerland and worked for the Humour du Montreux Festival. That year, she came back and gave the boss, the festival president, a service. She knew him and said, look, I need someone to manage this in the festival. Can you do this for me this year? She said yes, and I just arrived. And so she didn't know the humorists.

Starting point is 01:12:51 I arrived. So she didn't know you? She said, who is he? Did he like you? Yes. Oh yes, it was a blow for me, but she was still in a relationship. I was out of the relationship.

Starting point is 01:13:02 I was ready to... She made an effect right away when she said, I have a boyfriend. It was... You said, missed the appointment. I said, missed the appointment, but there was something and she didn't know me. So I said, be careful with him.

Starting point is 01:13:17 Be careful with him. He's a seducer. It took time. It's people who told her, oh, wait, that's a charm. And it took time. We met again two years later. Oh, charm. We met again two years later. Oh, really? We met again two years later.

Starting point is 01:13:28 And then, did she try to leave? Yes, and we didn't leave. Since then. And that two years later? We met again two years later. One and a half years later. And what did you think about her for a year and a half? Well, I thought about her.

Starting point is 01:13:41 At one point, I tried to contact her because my director of the show was going out with his best friend. So he was easy to get along with. He had also met Montreux. He had fallen in love with his best friend. And sometimes on the show I said, come see the show, your friend, your colleague, she lives together. She comes to Lyon to see the show, she comes, no, no. And she was afraid of me. I understand.

Starting point is 01:14:10 She also felt attracted. Yes, she was afraid of me. But then she had left her relationship, but she was afraid of me. A star. That's it. It comes with... It's a playboy. Yes, that's it, it comes with prejudices.

Starting point is 01:14:22 She says the playboy! Yeah, that's it, you're coming with prejudice. She said, playboy! And then we met again and we never left. Which one? And I knew, I said, it's the mother of my children. And you opened up. I knew, I said, it's her. I found out, it's her, the mother of my children. After, pretty quickly, I said, it's the mother of my children, it's good, I'm committing.

Starting point is 01:14:41 It's that I commit or I don't commit. And then you committed yourself fully. Yes, but even when I go out with a girl, it's that get engaged or I don't get engaged. And now you're fully engaged. Yes, but even when I'm out with a girl, it's that I get engaged or I don't get engaged. I said, where am I? I'm single. Single, I tell you what's going on. There, I'm single. Where am I?

Starting point is 01:14:54 I get engaged. And then... You're fully there. Fully there. I want to go halfway. I get engaged. In quality. I get engaged.

Starting point is 01:15:02 And I've always been like that. So... And it's hard to be faithful in this job, but... Once I commit, I commit. But what you just said is an important sentence. It's a challenge. Because you have proposals. I think that man is not made to flee.

Starting point is 01:15:20 Man is not made to flee. Physically, he is not made to flee. It requires a lot of conviction. Ha ha ha! The man is not ready to run. Physically, he is not ready to run. It requires a lot of conviction. So it's like, okay, then no. Then you avoid the situation, then it's no. Then, that's it. Then, that's it.

Starting point is 01:15:39 I'm still in love. That's it. It's one who... I have what I need at home. I have what I need at home. I don't know, I don't know. I'm like, thank you, I have what I need at home. I'm happy at home.

Starting point is 01:15:55 Bye bye! I had my whole team enjoying it. You have to leave now. I'm like, have fun guys. Hey, I'll introduce you to someone who is single. Go ahead. Red level, Anthony, you give me three. We'll answer a single question on the red level.

Starting point is 01:16:14 Only question and maybe not 20 minutes. This time, Anthony, the question... We didn't even do... Did we do both cards? Yes, we did red level. We did two yellow, we did two green. Okay, yes, yes. We're in the red level. We made two yellows, we made two green. Ok. It's two each time. No.

Starting point is 01:16:27 There's two, there's one, one. The rest is just ones. You give me three. I give you three. You'll choose one. What did I say I said no to? I should have taken this one. I should have taken this one.

Starting point is 01:16:35 What is your deep need, your blonde, she says. Have you already passed near death? To be happy, you have to. And? I have to be happy. I have to be happy. I have to be happy. I have to be happy.

Starting point is 01:16:43 I have to be happy. I have to be happy. I have to be happy. I have you already passed near death? To be happy, you have to. And? That's interesting, but that's what interests me the most. But go ahead, go ahead. Have you neglected certain aspects of your life? Yes, of course. Several aspects of my life.

Starting point is 01:17:02 several aspects of my life. It's a price to pay in this job for every level of notoriety, of popularity, every challenge to face in life. Life gives you, but it takes too, it pays. You have to pay. You have to go to the cash register. There's a balance. The more you have a popularity, the less... I'll go into extreme popularity, for example.

Starting point is 01:17:35 All the stars of international music, or very famous actors. Let's go back to Quebec. Céline. Yes. Okay. I played for two years in the first game in the 90s, in Canada, in French, in English. And then, it didn't happen often, but there was maybe two or three times where we didn't really talk for a long time. She and I.

Starting point is 01:18:05 And then she explained to me already at the time, she was already the megastar in Quebec, she was now known in English Canada, and she started, and she started at 12 years old. And then there is a price to pay for all that, things that she understands us for Aki, that she didn't know. To go to the cinema hand in hand with her husband.

Starting point is 01:18:32 To do the finishing ball. To go do the quiet races. Daily. Daily. You know, to go to the cinema, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to go to the movies, to des amis fidèles qui t'ont connu avant d'être connu, quand t'as commencé à être connu à 12 ans. C'est ça, ils t'ont encore mis. T'as un prix énorme à payer. Bon, même si t'as commencé plus tard qu'à 12 ans,

Starting point is 01:19:14 cette liberté qu'on prend pour acquis, on dit, mais c'est ça que tu veux, c'est ça que tu voulais? Oui. Quelques fois, on dit, je veux ça, je veux être, je veux que les gens me reconnaissent dans la rue, je veux, ah, si, this, I want people to recognize me on the street, I want that, I want that, I want that. And then you realize that you have to pay a price for that. You want that, but you need people at work.

Starting point is 01:19:34 And then you want that, but that means you have less private life. If you're famous, you have less private life. And you have to take the good and the bad that come with it, and the good that comes with it. And you, you're famous on a large territory. And I've always had an internal fight between man and artist. Man, they don't care about being famous, even if they're very happy when they're not recognized.

Starting point is 01:20:04 The artist, businessman, and businessman, does... I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.

Starting point is 01:20:12 I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.

Starting point is 01:20:20 I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't career where I lift my foot, I lifted my foot because it suffocated me. Sometimes I did it on purpose, I said, okay, I lift my foot, you don't see me anymore, you don't see me anymore because it suffocated me. And above all, I remember at the time when I was not diagnosed with sleep apnea, all my... it was... You were aggressive. I was sleepy. It was... It was... It was... It was...

Starting point is 01:20:45 It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was...

Starting point is 01:20:53 It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was...

Starting point is 01:21:01 It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... It was... They're like, OK, the day was hard, the week was difficult, or, oh, it's the middle of the week. They're tired, they're tired, there's been such an event. So you live with that. I feel, OK, I feel, I meet someone, I'm going to spend time with that person. And you adapt again.

Starting point is 01:21:19 You have to learn to protect yourself, but you feel that if she's not good, you say, Oh, she's not good, I don say, Oh, she's not feeling well. I say, I don't feel well because she's not feeling well. Or he's not feeling well. And sometimes I go, without wanting to, looking for information that I shouldn't go looking for. That's his life, he doesn't go into his bubble. Unconsciously, I go looking for information from the other person and I say,

Starting point is 01:21:43 Okay, she's not feeling well, she's not feeling it, and I feel it, and I feel it. So this hypersensitivity is a gift, and at the same time, it's... I want to say a curse, it's too strong, but it's... A gift is not a gift. There you go. Not always a gift. I understand. Because I'm going to feel... I'm going to feel, I'm going to see... I'm going to see people crying or unhappy,

Starting point is 01:22:14 and I feel it. And I feel it, and it tears me in the eyes. While it doesn't belong to you. It doesn't belong to me. I have to talk to myself and say, it doesn't belong to you. It's not yours. It's not yours. Stop. It's his pain. Don't belong to you. It doesn't belong to me. I have to talk to myself and say, it doesn't belong to you. It's not yours. It's not yours. Stop. It's his pain. Don't take his pain.

Starting point is 01:22:29 Don't take his pain. My producer in Paris, who is my best friend, and who knows me, I spent more time with my wife. It's 18 years with him. We were on the road all the time. And he knows it. He says, OK, stop. Hey, you don't belong.

Starting point is 01:22:48 It's not your problem. Because naturally you're inspired by that. He says, stop wanting to help. You don't belong. No, stop, cut. It's his problem. And he says, it's not your problem, it's my problem. Stop trying to always want to help,

Starting point is 01:23:03 to take the problem. It's your first problem, it's my problem. Stop. Try to always want to help, to take the problem, to want to... It's your first reflex all the time. Yes. So stop. But is that, having that hypersensitivity, does it make you lose your spontaneity? When comes your personal life? Because if you know that there are people... Does it cut you off from your loved ones?

Starting point is 01:23:21 Is it like... In the aspects of your life, do you feel that you... The aspects, well, here. What do you neglect? For example, it's the last three years, half the time I'm in Europe. So I live here. The first year I was there for two weeks, two weeks here, two weeks there, two weeks here. So I miss the ends with my children. Because now everyone has been living here for a few years. Since 2017.

Starting point is 01:23:48 Okay, that's what it's been like. Since July 2017. So, and for three years, I've been doing, I think half of my year on the other side. So I think I leave two to three weeks, then I come back, two to three weeks, I come back. I'm still in overtime. So you're in overtime shift, and then you're in a shift in the house. You missed some parts. I missed some parts.

Starting point is 01:24:10 So I come back physically to shift. Now the shift affects me on both sides. And you're in a shift with the family. Because you missed two or three weeks of what happened. Then you're in a shift. So you're in a shift, and you have to find your place to create balance. They lived at 300 without you.

Starting point is 01:24:33 And now you're... You have to get to the tip of your toes, anyway. You're the fourth with your big soles that are falling off. That's it. There has to be a little delicacy when you arrive. And sometimes, well, you don't necessarily have the energy to go home and say, hey, great, we're doing a lot of stuff. It's like I say...

Starting point is 01:24:56 Because there are expectations. Yes. I'm cooked. I just made so many shows in so city center. Do you sometimes wonder if it's worth it to leave? It happened to me. And at the same time, I like to travel. I like to meet people from different countries. I like to go from different countries. I like touring and saying... In 50 km, they have another cuisine, they have another story,

Starting point is 01:25:34 they have other wines to taste. I'm going to another country tomorrow, and they work like that. And it forces you to stay alive, because I say I'm going to another country tomorrow, and they're working like that. And it forces you to stay alive, because I'm going to Belgium, I have to adapt to Belgium. I'm going to Switzerland, I have to adapt to Switzerland. In addition, you have canton, like different provinces in Switzerland. You have to adapt to different provinces, depending on your mentality. In France, depending on the, I played in Montreal, Paris, Paris Tour, Tour Paris, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Montreal.

Starting point is 01:26:16 It's a road, it's a distance, and it's also cultural differences. Each time. They saw me a year and a half ago, they haven't seen me in 4 years. culturel aussi. Chaque fois. OK. Eux, ils m'ont vu il y a un an et demi. Eux, ils m'ont pas vu depuis quatre ans. Eux, ils m'ont vu. Et comment tu te retrouves là-dedans? Qu'est-ce que tu veux dire? C'est-à-dire qu'est-ce qu'il faut que tu ailles comme un temps d'arrêt pour dire OK, là ce soir... I arrive in the morning, unfortunately I spoke in the past, I wanted the future to be more interesting, I never slept on the plane. I work on that, I'm a hypnotherapist for my D.A. To sleep on the plane. To sleep everywhere, to sleep in general.

Starting point is 01:27:02 In general, sleeping in general. What we discover is that the unconscious often doesn't want to let me sleep because for years he was in danger when I was going to sleep. You have sleep paralysis, someone strangles you 50 times, 60 times a night. So when you go to bed, you're at risk. You risk dying. The unconscious wants to protect me. He says, you're going to sleep. Because if you go to sleep, someone wants to kill you. It's a fight. So you're at the agai. You stay at the agai in the evening.

Starting point is 01:27:36 That's what we discover. So in the plane, if I can sleep in the plane, it's good. So I always have a day off. I arrive, I have the day where I am... So you can put yourself in the diapason of the place where you are. And the next day I play. The next day I play. So it's always...

Starting point is 01:27:55 And then sometimes you find yourself... When you live... You don't live in Europe, you work in Europe. Sometimes I live there because sometimes I did three months. When I was in Paris, I did three months' residence. Except that I did one and a half months, in the middle of the month and a half, my family would come and join me for a week. And after the month and a half, I would come back here, two weeks, three weeks.

Starting point is 01:28:22 I would leave and I would do another month and a half, and my family would come and join me in the middle. Never more than three weeks to separate. So you have to set some rules to go through. That's right. So you find yourself still in the other side of the road, and here you come back. What happened there? You left. Ah, you left. It's a long story. That, what happened? You're gone. Ah, but you're gone. It's a long time, that's what happened. You try to stay in the know, and then on the other side, that's what moves.

Starting point is 01:28:50 And then, at some point, you're like, that's a lot of information. But at the same time, I imagine that your spouse, your wife, and your children, they understand that, that is to say that they have adapted to this way of life that is yours. Completely. So you didn't bring all that on your shoulders?

Starting point is 01:29:08 No, but it's true that it's not easy. It's not easy to say, but you're missing some parts. Yes. You're missing some parts, and you come back after three weeks, and I see that my daughter, she's growing up. And I say, my God, you've grown up. But no, I haven't grown up. I say, yes, you've grown up.

Starting point is 01:29:24 I've been three weeks without seeing you. Or my son, who has. He said, my God, you've grown up. I said, no, I haven't grown up. I said, yes, you've grown up. I hadn't seen you in three weeks. Or my son, who has changed. No, but yes, your voice is more serious. Oh, well. No, he doesn't talk like that. But your job makes you happy.

Starting point is 01:29:40 But my job makes me happy. It's my passion. And it's because I still have the sacred fire that I manage to say, okay, because it's a joy to be on stage, to see people who laugh again. I say it at the end, who still laugh, who follow my delusions, who still laugh at my bullshit, to say, I'm still there. And I say, that's what I know how to do, that's my job. You want to say, okay is what I know how to do, this is my job. You know, you want to say, OK, but I can...

Starting point is 01:30:08 When I was in my thirties, I was telling myself, in my fifties, I'm going to stop and I'm going to do a talk show. That way, I'm going to stay at home and I'm going to do a talk show. And then, when I was in my fifties, I said, but I still have the energy to go on stage. It's the only time I'm 100% in the moment right now, it's on stage. It's the only time I'm 100% in the moment. That's it, because I think that in your balance, the things that are required, you manage to compensate them

Starting point is 01:30:34 to a certain extent, enough to continue. What's beautiful too, the last show, my son, he often wanted to come with me at the end of the week. le dernier show, mon fils voulait souvent venir avec moi des fins de semaine. Il venait avec moi. Là, c'est ma fille. Quand je fais des shows, oui, je sors de la ville. À son moment, rien de ouf, toi. Je viens avec toi, papa, j'ai envie de venir avec toi. Un soir, deux soirs, deux suites, ou trois soirs. Là, mon fils, ça faisait très longtemps qu'il ne m'avait pas dit je veux venir avec toi. La semaine dernière, j'aimerais sans like to come with you one night on tour.

Starting point is 01:31:05 It was because it had been a long time since he had told me. But that's extraordinary, Anthony, because your children understand what's going on when you're away. Oh yes, I'll give you an example. My son had come alone. My son is doing dubbing now here in Montreal. From time to time, he does dubbing. And I had dubbed the film Aladdin, the voice of genius, it was me. And while I was doing the Quebec version,

Starting point is 01:31:37 my son had come with me, and the patron of the time of the dubbing of Disney Europe, Middle East, Canada, Africa, etc. He was there and he really liked my son. He said, I want to be the first to sign your first paycheck. So we're going to do a test to see if you can dub. And he said, perfect, you're going to be in Quebec, it will be you, the voice of Aladdin's son.

Starting point is 01:32:02 Not Aladdin, but the son of the genius. So he did it. And then after that, he did other things, dubbing. Then there was a French series called Clem, which offered me a role because there was a part of the plot that was happening in Quebec. Then I declined the role and he said, do you know, we need a little boy to play the adoptive son who is in an orphanage.

Starting point is 01:32:34 He said, he needs to be a Métis, but he needs to be able to make my Quebec accent light because otherwise people won't understand. And so he said, I'm looking for a midget of your age. I said, well, there's my son. Oh really? Well, then he went to the audition and he got the role. So they made him come to Paris.

Starting point is 01:32:55 With him, how old is he? I said, so you, you... He was what, 13 years old, I think, 14 or 13? He moves à Paris. 13 ans, toi, on te fait venir à Paris, tranquillement, tu prends l'avion, puis tu viens faire deux jours de tournage. Moi, j'étais en résidence à Paris, il vient dans l'appartement. Après, quand il vient me voir quand il est seul, il voit ce que papa fait dans la journée,

Starting point is 01:33:23 puis il comprend pourquoi je suis épuisé. Il dit quand j'arrive, pourquoi je suis épuisé. When he's alone, he sees what daddy did during the day, and he understands why I'm exhausted. And he says, when I get there, why am I exhausted? And he himself says, the shifts are hard. Then you go to work, you work all day, and then you go home, and then you take the plane again. He understands. He knows that when I get home... That's important. That's important, he lives, he understands.

Starting point is 01:33:41 Yes. And I've changed a lot of children. Great. Mature, in any case? Yes. My son has always been very structured, very balanced. And my wife did an incredible job. She's sure of it? Yes, really.

Starting point is 01:33:56 With the children under the mother, I chose well. When I have the feeling, I say, it will be her, the mother of my children. And you go in peace. And that didn't take you leave in peace. And it didn't take you to leave in peace. And not necessarily in guilt, but you leave, work there, you come back. That's so important, that stability that you live. Not everyone comes to that. Are you ready for the Eros and Companions level?

Starting point is 01:34:19 There are two questions left to answer. Eros, you give me four questions. Wait, you have four, How many do you have? Dun dun dun dun. Okay, you have five. You give me four, you're going to choose one. Dun dun dun dun. That's our little jingle. Show you right.

Starting point is 01:34:37 Dun dun dun dun. Eros. Dun dun dun dun. And company. Dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun dun. Dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung dung Baby! How many did I choose? You give me four. I give you four. Hey, thank you! That was very, very good. How has your bisexual life evolved over time?

Starting point is 01:35:17 What role does intimacy play in your relationship with your lover? Is it easy for you to express your desires within the couple? I have gags. Every time you ask me, I have a lot of gags to do. I have 8 gags per card. And there are things that even now we can't say anymore. And what place do you give to your intimate life? I don't know if we can say that I liked certain gags that came. There I choose one. Yes.

Starting point is 01:35:48 There are too many gags. I have an emotional intimacy with you. How did you evolve with time? Well, now I sleep with women. So already, it's different. It's completely different. It's another mechanic. It's another mechanic. It's another mechanic.

Starting point is 01:36:08 I have to talk about my emotions when I invite them to the restaurant. It wasn't like that before. A beer and we watch the game before, but it was not the same. So, what place does your intimate life give you? I don't know what to choose. I made a mistake with this one. What role does your emotional intimacy play? Not easy. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Look in the other side. Look what? Are you comfortable with the nudity?

Starting point is 01:36:45 Yes. At home? I don't want to be naked in the cinema. Thank you for the question. At home. There are some compromising pictures, but it was the 90s, it was not the same. It was... You have another era. not the same. Which... It was... It was another time.

Starting point is 01:37:08 Stop judging me with the standards today. The picture was blurry, it's not true. Wait, is it... Is it easy for you to express your desires within the group? Not always. And yet you communicate a lot.

Starting point is 01:37:24 Yes, but it's true that... Not always. And yet you communicate a lot. Yes, but it's true that... Not always. It's true that I... Why isn't it always easy? It's a very good question. Very good question. I don't know how... Is it with time?

Starting point is 01:37:42 Very good question. Just with time, it's a very good question. You become a parent, you become... It's already been easier, right? Yes, it's already been a lot easier. And... Yes, it's... It's good, I'll talk about it at home when I get home. I realize that, yes, it's true, I'll talk about it at home when I get home. I realize that it's true, less than...

Starting point is 01:38:09 Yes, less than before. Less than before, it's more... You may express less certain things because... Yes, I'm talking right now. Excuse me. It's like you have less time. Sometimes it can be time, or sometimes you understand that maybe she has less time. It's not the right time. It's not the right time.

Starting point is 01:38:34 Do you feel like we can get away like that? For men, it's always the right time. I'm telling you, I'm looking in the void. I know there's the camera, but where is he looking? There are people behind the camera. I know I'm talking, but I'm talking to you too. For men, it's always the moment, ladies. All the time. All the time. Okay?

Starting point is 01:38:50 Oh, no, but it's not true. Yes, we have 17 times more testosterone than you. So imagine the day you were the most healthy. Riaaaw! Well, we're at least 10 times. Every day. All the time. For nothing. We wake up in the morning,

Starting point is 01:39:07 ta ta ta ta ta ta ta taaa! Commander! So... So you have to manage that anyway. Well, it's hard. Do you manage disappointment? We're talking about hormones. We men also have hormones that we have to manage.

Starting point is 01:39:19 I admit that they fluctuate less. A man is quite constant, it fluctuates less. A man is quite constant, it fluctuates less. After 45 years, it's true that it fluctuates a little. Let's say things. Let's say things. We don't do what we did. We were maybe a little less efficient than we were at 25, 30. Okay, I admit it. But we have...

Starting point is 01:39:44 OK, I admit it. But we have... The man is in the hospital, he comes out of a car accident. He's broken everywhere. Oh, it's a shame you're injured. We won't be able to make love anymore. What? We're here. We're ready. Suddenly, we have the energy to do it. We're ready. Men... a lot to say no. You talk about illness, but a few years ago you were about to die. Yes, of course. When you had it, it was a pulmonary embolism.

Starting point is 01:40:14 I had triple embolism and pulmonary infarctus. Did you have fear for your sexual life at that time? No, for my life, period. For your life, period? Yes, my life, period. For your life, period? I was afraid of my life. I didn't think about my sexual life. I was too much in my level. I was too much in my level.

Starting point is 01:40:34 But you were afraid of dying at that time? Yes, I was afraid of dying. But I really thought... That was the last thing I thought. My sexual life was my life, period. What I'm going to go through. Is that what I want to go through? What does it change to go through as close to death as that? It's an electro shock.

Starting point is 01:40:52 As I say in the show, you... Well, I don't say that in the show, but I often say to myself, what seems bad is not necessarily. So, you always need to step back to know if what happened is good or not. And this thing that happened to me, where I was at the other end of the world, where I was alone, let's say, alone and alone for almost a month, during the holidays, allows you to have a conversation with yourself that I should have had for a long time.

Starting point is 01:41:32 I mean, maybe we slow down, we get up, and then seven years later, I... What I was doing was that I said, OK, I'm going to do one market at a time. When I want to be in Europe, I want to be in Europe. And when I want to be in Quebec, I relax. That's what I've been doing for three years. I relax in Quebec, but since August, I've been doing both. So you've come back to what I was doing.

Starting point is 01:42:03 And is your health going well? My health is going well. But I'm not going to travel. I'm not going to drink less after the show with the team. I'm going to go home and I go to bed more easily. I don't burn the candle by the three ends and wake up the next morning and say, oh, I might have seen two glasses of too much

Starting point is 01:42:36 and I went to bed maybe two hours too late. Or, okay, I try most of time, not to eat after the show. Oh, you still digest without... That's it. And your heart... So I try to eat before. It happens to me again, but there are places where I have less choice. So I eat after.

Starting point is 01:42:57 I try to limit alcohol consumption. And then after, you go to bed. Sometimes, that's it, sleeping. Digestion makes the heart work too. But you don't rest, because you're dig bed. Sometimes, that's it, sleeping is the digestion that makes the body work too. But you don't rest, because you're digesting. You rest badly. So all that, it's... Sleep, and to say,

Starting point is 01:43:13 OK, well, I'm going to maybe not take such a contract, and I'm going to maybe not do everything. And sometimes, yes, like what I gave you as an example earlier, to do Montreal-Paris, Paris Tour, Tour Paris, Guadeloupe-Martinique, I come back and then I attack here. That's it, that's it.

Starting point is 01:43:28 And then after two days, I do shows here. So, there's that. But is that your capacity? To go from Quebec show to French show, to French-speaking shows. But it's adaptation, it's time shift, it's huge. But is that your lung capacity has returned like before? Yes. I had that chance because I did, during a month I was doing re-education.

Starting point is 01:43:49 I was doing 5 days a week of lung re-education to allow me to resume the plane. Because the right lung was damaged and I couldn't bear the pressure of the plane. So he had to find his strength. I had a huge chance. I didn't have a sekel. You would have been so wet. Yes, really. I couldn't have had a sekel. I couldn't have had a part of my lung crushed. Nothing. Everything is beautiful.

Starting point is 01:44:18 So, in my bad luck, I have the blood stone that... I got massaged, as I said in the show. When I arrived, I heard laughter in a massage that was totally... Therapeutic! Therapeutic, that's it. It was fun. Not the doubtful massages. It's not the $200 massage with a peending. No, it wasn't that.

Starting point is 01:44:50 And I only had 50 bucks anyway. And so it was... It was... And so she broke the pebble. $200. By mending. Luck is bad luck. She took it out, which caused the accident,

Starting point is 01:45:09 but in my blood she broke it in three smaller pieces. So it was less massive. Because otherwise it could have been fatal. And if she didn't have it, I didn't feel good, I was on the table, I had the impression, I said, I was in pain, but it was on the right. The infarctus was on the left. So I said, OK, it's not the heart, everything is fine. It was in my head. I had just flown 33 hours, 3 planes. I was in a stutter. I said, OK, it's fatigue. Everything is fine.

Starting point is 01:45:38 But they were passing. They were passing. That's why I felt bad. I was lucky to go to the lung, not the heart, not the brain. And then, as she broke it in three pieces... I was telling myself, big piece, two days later, I'm on stage, and I die on stage. Moving, running everywhere, it's the big piece, it detaches, and I'm on stage, and then I die. It's a good delay. I die on stage. Maybe that's what happened. Or in the plane, in the other... Yes, in the other scene.

Starting point is 01:46:12 We went to Tahiti after, played in Tahiti. In the plane, you die and then you're surrounded by water. And then there's no one who can help you. You have eight hours of flight between New Caledonia and Tahiti. It's over. In the plane, you can't do anything for yourself, and you die in the plane. So I was lucky in the bad luck.

Starting point is 01:46:31 It's an accident, it's a medical error, what happened to me. They put me in a catheter, and then they removed the catheter. I said to my friends, I'm leaving. I had a catheter for a month to take antibiotics. And I had a cellulite, and I had caught a streptococcus in the hospital,

Starting point is 01:46:57 and another one in the hospital. And so, we needed a dose of antibiotic. And so, for a month,, I said to my friends, I'm going to remove the catheter the next day. I take the plane and I go to the other side of the world. So, you know, you have to remove the catheter. Is everything okay? Yes, yes, no problem.

Starting point is 01:47:15 And then I went back in January. Then I said to my friends, I spent a month, I went to intensive care for a week, almost a month on the spot. And then they told me, I went to intensive care for a week, almost a month on the spot. And then they told me, ah, it's true, when you hold a catheter, it often makes blood clots. So you didn't think about prescribing me anticoagulants, knowing that I was going to take the plane, that I was going to be motionless for 33 hours and that no, maybe we didn't think about that.

Starting point is 01:47:42 Maybe an anticoagulant so I wouldn't have that problem. So it was a medical error. It wasn't a problem. It's not a condition. If it wasn't a condition, it was a medical error. It's reassuring and worrying. It's reassuring to know that it's not a condition, but worrying to know that it could have been avoided. Yes. This situation. So I'm lucky. And for the apnea, I talk about it. If you're tired all the time, if you're snoring, if you're doing high tension, hypotension,

Starting point is 01:48:12 hyperhypo, cardiovascular problems, erectile problems, depression. You've quickly gained weight. Ask your partner to listen to you when you sleep, if you stop breathing, and go get tested. Even if the person who listens to you says, no, you breathe, there's what we call hypopneum. You barely breathe. It's semi-blocked, but younée. Tu respires à peine. C'est semi-bloqué, mais tu respires à peine. Tu fais de l'apnée du sommeil. Et allez-y, ça va changer votre vie.

Starting point is 01:48:52 Moi, être appareillé, ça a changé ma vie. Et je veux aussi parler du scandale. Je le dis, scandale. Je suis porte-parole de l'Association Pulemonaire du Québec. Et c'est un scandale. Et on se bat pour ça au Québec. C'est le seul endroit the Quebec economy. It's a scandal and we're fighting for it in Quebec. It's the only place with another province in Canada, developed countries. I'm taking the United States back because their system is private. Most developed countries have health insurance. It's the only place where we don't pay for the machines of continuous positive pressure, the C-PAP,

Starting point is 01:49:25 that it's not paid back by the health insurance. It's not paid back. It's a scandal. Yes, because there are so many side effects, as you just said. Huge side effects, even the Americans who are very... It's private and everyone is messing around. I'm just thinking about truckers. The truckers union in the United States, the Teamsters, immediately when they detect fatigue in a trucker,

Starting point is 01:49:53 they get tested and they get paid. Because they know that the guys are going to fall asleep on the steering wheel. They're going to be less alive and less alert while driving. But you've been fighting for that for a few years now. We went to the National Assembly with Dominique Massie, the director, who does an incredible job. I'm really sorry, I forgot, a deputy, the deputy of Lac-Saint-Jean, of the CAQ, I forgot his name, who also suffers from sleep apnea and a specialized pneumologist really from the University of Laval.

Starting point is 01:50:32 We went to the National Assembly, I went to talk, I wrote a speech to talk about it, they also talked about it and they did the vote afterwards. They voted a motion in favor of unanimity. And they had to pay the fees. And it didn't happen. And it didn't happen. They did nothing. We did that in October. We did it in October, beginning of November.

Starting point is 01:51:00 Covid was on our backs. Because afterwards it was in March. And then, Covid, Covid. no, you had voted before. And then you had to do it. And there are people who die because of that. There are people who suffer. There are people who... Because it's expanded, not everyone has the right to have that. There are also divorces that are created with that.

Starting point is 01:51:20 There is also... the conjugal violence because of that. Because you never have more patience. There's also the conjugation violence because of that. Because you never sleep, you're out of patience. When you say something, then boom, the slap starts. Because you never sleep, so you can't do it anymore. You're, as they say, in the very, very, very, very short wick. There's no wick left.

Starting point is 01:51:39 And the technicians who come to install things, they say, if you knew, we go into houses and we have to walk on eggs because the man or the woman, they can't do it anymore. And we come back three months later, and it's the harmony in the house. Because the person is asleep. Because suddenly, you find sleep and life, and wow! You find energy. You get out of your hole and you think, ah, life is beautiful, finally.

Starting point is 01:52:06 And so, there are even researches that have been done by the association that prove that it costs the government more to refuse to pay back. That's because we have to give drugs to a lot of people, and they're going to see a lot of specialists who don't know what sleep is, and who miss out on a lot of people, and they will see a lot of specialists who are not aware of what sleep is, and who miss out on a lot of work days, who are in a lot of illness, who do that. So we lose money in Quebec. Because the CPAP lasts a long time. It's not something you renew every year.

Starting point is 01:52:37 So it's an investment you make, and with the costs it costs to go to the hospital, it's quickly repaid in a certain way. It can be either bought or it can be... I remember when I lived in Switzerland, there were two choices. Either it was rented or paid. OK. The insurance was renting until... or they didn't buy it for you.

Starting point is 01:53:02 So you don't rent it. It's good. You continue. But it's scandalous. The fact that they decided to say, well, we're going to give a million dollars to... It's a drop in the ocean. It's useless. I mean, the devices cost a lot. And the devices cost even more because there's no government to negotiate with the company to say, no, no, you're not going to sell it at that price.

Starting point is 01:53:21 We're going to save money. I also saw it with a European loan shark who said, how much do you sell this in Quebec? I said, no, it's not as expensive as that, it's time here. Why? Because the French government negotiates with all companies, they say, well, we buy it from you in time, not more. So there are also mandibular orthoses that advance the jaw, sometimes the jaw is tilted. But go get tested, by pity go get tested.

Starting point is 01:53:48 And I don't know, communicate with your deputy, send letters, send emails, because it's a scandal that we are, that the Quebec public is not treated to the level of other provinces. Because in other provinces it is's paid for by one. So... Your message is really important, Anthony. Yes. And it saves lives, it saves lives, it saves lives. It changes lives and it saves lives.

Starting point is 01:54:13 But it almost saved yours too. Not almost. It saved my life. But machines cost a lot. I have people who write to me very often to tell me, I can't buy the machine because the machine costs between $1,500 and $2,500. Mine costs... I have a B-PAP that sends air, and when my brain stops breathing, it expires and starts over. The mask, the hose and the machine, it's $5,000. So you're a parent, you have children, you say, well, $5,000 is the vacation this summer. So I don't have the means.

Starting point is 01:54:54 Or I don't even have the means to pay $5,000 for the vacation this summer. When you have a normal CPAP, it's between $1,500 and $2,500. And then you say, well, we don't have the means right now. Especially with inflation. But some people won't even get tested, because they say, anyway, I won't have the CIPAP. And I won't have a date, especially with a pharmacist for eight years.

Starting point is 01:55:15 But you're doing well to continue, because, well, they weren't ahead of it. What they killed is that with everything we pay, we are the most taxed place in the Western hemisphere. It everything we pay, we are the most taxed place in the Western Hemisphere. It's Quebec. We are the most taxed place in the world. What we have as a service, with the money we pay, I'm outraged.

Starting point is 01:55:34 I'm outraged. It's... For everything we pay, we don't have... We pay... What we have for what we pay, it's not enough. It's... You're right. I remember when we were younger, a doctor...

Starting point is 01:55:51 We had a doctor like that. We called in the morning and we had an appointment. Until the 90s. It was like that. I remember my doctor, Lavallee, we saw him when we were sick. We went to the emergency room, we passed in the same day. If we came in the morning, we passed in the morning. Now, you come in the morning, but you don't necessarily know when you're going to pass.

Starting point is 01:56:13 It took seven years. What does that mean? It's been seven and a half years since I came back to Quebec. And it took seven years for my children to have a pediatrician. Seven years. And my wife still hasn't had a family doctor. After seven and a half years, she doesn't have a gynecologist. She doesn't have...

Starting point is 01:56:35 It's shameful. It's not like we weren't looking for one, and we would put ourselves on lists. So, you know... You see, one day I was going to see my generalist doctor, and I was supposed to see a specialist, so she said, well, I'm going to put this in the regional agency, and they called me back two years and seven months later.

Starting point is 01:56:56 And when the person called me, I said, but I can't this day. She said, we'll call you back. I said, no, we're not going to call you back. Excuse me, let's talk. We're going to find you. But she said, but why? Because it's been at least two years.

Starting point is 01:57:06 She said, oh no, oh no, okay, we're talking about 2020. Two years and seven months. So I said, we're going to hang up, but I'm going to say, it's terrible. And you know, it's a shame. I don't know what happened to me, but there are people, when they come in front of the specialists, they're going to tell them, but we should have seen you earlier. Yeah, but what are we doing? No, we tell them, but we should have seen you earlier. Yes, but what do we do?

Starting point is 01:57:26 No, no, it doesn't work. I have a lot of stories of mistakes. I was very lucky. I admit, I was lucky. So my journey here was wonderful. I found a family doctor quickly, but thanks to the production of the show, which is still the production of the show, which is still producing,

Starting point is 01:57:47 now that there was a doctor who was taking care of it, as they produce big shows, there is a doctor who is ready if there is ever a problem, the artist has a problem, and this doctor has accepted to take me as a patient. I had an amazing chance, but he can't take my family. He says, I have already exceeded mon quota de patients par année. Dis-toi je te prends, parce que c'est la prod, je te prends. Mais j'ai dépassé le... donc j'ai eu de la chance au Québec. Je suis tombé sur un pneumologue formidable. Voilà, j'ai eu de la chance,

Starting point is 01:58:21 mais je vois beaucoup d'histoires d'horreur. Donc des gens qui souffrent, qui... j'ai la mère d'une I was lucky, but I see a lot of horror stories. So people who suffer. I have a friend's mother who has had to have her knee operated for two years. She takes anti-pain, she suffers, she walks with a cramp. So it's people who... And very sensitive-minded. Yes. It's been bothering you too. It's been bothering me and I'm scandalized.

Starting point is 01:58:46 Yes, with reason. We should all be. Yes, I'm scandalized. I say, what are you doing with our money? What are you doing with our money? How do you manage that? And when I had the chance to meet some people, what are you doing with our money? So to finish with the level of Eros, basically, I'm going to let you jazzy with your wife to express more of your desire. Because it made you think about all those questions.

Starting point is 01:59:09 Yes, yes, that's true. So, the last question... I'm responsible. I mean, I'm responsible. But it's interesting. I'll give you a little bit of the game. You shouldn't forget your responsibility. We often forget that we are men as women, his responsibility. And how does... The other is not the other who is responsible for your happiness.

Starting point is 01:59:29 No. It's not the person who is in front of you. And how do you get there? What makes you personally, and when you talk to the other... And we played the couple game, I'll give you the time before you go. And it's absolutely not... It's not a game of respect that the couple can play together,

Starting point is 01:59:48 but it's that kind of question. You know, things that we don't have time to think about, we don't ask ourselves questions, but when we see the questions and we try to answer them, we make some observations. We make observations, and you know, the rule, the first rule is to listen to the other. There's just one person at a time who answers one question.

Starting point is 02:00:05 And it's interesting to hear the other. We always want to, ladies and gentlemen. All the time. I answered the question. I answered your question. I answered your question. We always want to. The ball is in your court.

Starting point is 02:00:18 The last question, the question, opto-resolves. When you look at your life journey, what was the most beautiful period? What was the most beautiful period? What was the most beautiful period? Wow! That too, I... My little childhood, my primary, I would say. Because everyone was there, everyone was healthy. I have a lot of beautiful memories, those that remain.

Starting point is 02:00:55 That, my beginnings in Europe, my beginnings in Europe, this adventure, this challenge that I had started, to say I started this journey and I will get there. I will do everything I can and God knows I did it. To get there, I met my wife. That's what I called the beautiful accident. I didn't want to go to Europe at all. I wanted to go to the United States.

Starting point is 02:01:28 I was supposed to stay for three years, but I stayed for 20 years. So sometimes we have plans and life brings us back. Is it a grief for you not having been to the US? Yes, it was a grief. Yes, it was a mourning. Yes, there was a mourning. There was a mourning because when I came back to Quebec, I said, OK, do I retry the adventure in English? I retry the adventure in English. OK. I went to see a community club here.

Starting point is 02:02:00 There's Just For Laughs who asked me to do a presentation for a gala in English. It went really well. I was happy. I had tested something in a comedy club, it went really well too. I said I was going to New York. I didn't go on stage, I went to several comedy clubs to see the atmosphere. I went to five comedy clubs in see the atmosphere, what it was like. And I went to five community clubs in New York just to see shows and all that. And then, to talk to people from Just Relapse and to see, having already done it,

Starting point is 02:02:37 starting from scratch more than once, I said to myself, do you have the energy? Are you ready to sacrifice what you will have to sacrifice? The rest, to achieve this other objective. And I said no. I'm not ready to pay that price. Because I have to move to the United States. Or you can move to Toronto and then go to the United States from Toronto. It was starting over.

Starting point is 02:03:12 It means starting over in all the little comedy clubs. Starting over, doing all that. And I'm talking about it. And the energy that it requires too. I have a wife, I have children. You do it as a single woman, but I say woman and child. Already the price. They are already in the price.

Starting point is 02:03:26 They are already high enough. But I say, to do all that again, I don't have that energy, and I don't have the fire strong enough to do that. So I'll say, maybe there's another way to get there. Maybe it will be with the cinema. With the song?

Starting point is 02:03:43 With the song. But it won't be with the stand. With the song? With the song. But it won't be with the stand-up. Unfortunately. I'm not even saying unfortunately, because I was in mourning. It's a choice you made at the same time. You were in mourning, but after a choice you made,

Starting point is 02:04:00 it's not a refusal, it's you who said no, it's not the right moment in my life. I remember even 20 years ago, the bosses of Just For Life said to me, when are you going to stop wasting your time in Europe? You're still young, you still have energy, we can do something with you. Come back. Come back. And you say you know it, in the 90s you failed, you're not close enough, you had a lot of requests, you had a lot of requests, a lot of offers.

Starting point is 02:04:25 You went to Hollywood, you came back. It's still too late to go. And then I was in the whirlpool in Europe and I said, I don't have time. I can't let go. Not there, not right away. And then there was life. The ups and downs of life made me take another path, but I still appreciate the art of stand-up in English. I still watch the English comedians. I saw a show last night, by the way. And I still appreciate it a lot, because it's my art.

Starting point is 02:05:13 But to go and do it at this level in English, to go all the way, I don't have the... I don't have the desire, the fire is not strong enough, and I'm not ready to pay the price that I have to pay. That's it, you make choices. There. Thank you Anthony Bernal me. Thank you for inviting me. What a great time. Did I answer all the questions or almost? All the questions you had to answer. It took 8 hours.

Starting point is 02:05:34 It's 8 hours, it's not going to be 8 hours, they're going to edit. They're not going to put the 8 hours, they're going to put... Come on, 4 hours, they're going to put 4 hours. What is 4 hours in a life? Listen, look at it 3 or 4 times. Can people listen to it too? They can listen to it. It's obviously done for the sound.

Starting point is 02:05:50 And the image, yes, we can look at the image. The sound! Wait, my heart just stopped! I'm waking you up because I just realized that they were all talking softly. As if there was just you and me. You are a witch. You are a witch. Witch. Magician of evil.

Starting point is 02:06:09 People often listen to us on the walk. Sometimes they walk longer. And despite the weird people in your studio, I have the impression that they are not there, in fact, and that there is only you and me. Absolutely. That's the goal. That's the goal, it's the beauty of podcasts. Exactly. It's all this intimacy that we have. And bravo, because you do excellent work. Because right away, with your smile, beautiful eyes, benevolence, we are confident and we want to be there to talk to you for hours.

Starting point is 02:06:43 And so thank you for that beautiful moment. Thank you and thank you for your jingle from Eros and his company. I can't wait to hear Eros's gang, what are they going to say? Eros, do do do do do do. You want to have fun? You're a little cocky, you're cocky. Eros. I'm waiting for my vibro,masters, my buttplugs,

Starting point is 02:07:06 my... I like all of that about you. My pumps. All of them. You're waiting for all of them. Eros. And a box with all of them in it. You're going to have one for real. The lingerie for men, for women.

Starting point is 02:07:22 You're ready. It's going to awaken your Eros level. It will be perfect. Well, thank you very much, Anthony Caradon. Honey, we got a big box. It's marked Eros. Optoreso Eros. Yes, Optoreso would be more like montures. Spiesmen. Oh yes. Wait, you're going to try them?

Starting point is 02:07:38 Well yes, but I'm sure it will do you good. Attention, are you ready? You'll see when it's well worn. Glasses. Oh! What's up? Yeah, that's right, baby. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 02:07:54 Yeah! I was born a long ago. I am the chosen one. Optorazor. I'm the chosen one. We just changed our tune, Nipper. We're doing reggae? Do reggae for me.

Starting point is 02:08:15 With Jamin. What's the other song I don't have Jamin? And... ah, what's the other song I never had? Ah, uh... Ah, not Could You Be Love... Is this love, is this love, is this love Is this love that I'm feeling Is this love, is this love, is this love that I'm feeling I want to love you and treat you right.

Starting point is 02:08:47 I want to love you every day and every night. Mario, don't kill me. I'm singing to your wife. Mario, who's going to talk on the radio. I'm the humorist, I'm not capable. Hey, those glasses are going to look great on you. They are, too, they're great. It's... I don't really need glasses.

Starting point is 02:09:08 You know, everything's fine for me. I don't understand why Lenny Kravitz always wears glasses. Ow, ow, baby, baby! Lenny is a little slimy. That's why he always wears glasses. He's not slimy like me. He's like, hey, hi,

Starting point is 02:09:26 hi, I'm Lenny Gravitz, hi, I'm Lenny Gravitz, hey, I'm Lenny Gravitz. Always so funny. Thank you Anthony for taking the time to stop by the studio to open your game. Glasses, glasses, accessories,

Starting point is 02:09:42 you're doing a lot of promotions, I love that. Sex toys, Maxime. Yes. What else? Well... Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he Hmm... It almost looks real. Hmm... Hmm... It smells like dust. So... So, thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone for being here. Very, very funny and I like it because

Starting point is 02:10:14 you count... Renaud Brut! Renaud Brut! Brut! Renaud Will! The library! Renaud Brut! There you go. You can't say library. I's continue. The bookshop. Renaud. There. You can't say bookshop. I love it.

Starting point is 02:10:27 I'm a bookshop owner. I love it. Read. Read! I think we're going to make you a stay at the Spice Man. Read! I think it's going to do you good too if you can read. Read.

Starting point is 02:10:36 The Archipelago of Hope. The Double Fund. Monte Cristo. Read. Oh, wait. I didn't even know we had that book. Oh no, it's not the one I thought it was. It's not even true! It's a fake!

Starting point is 02:10:46 It's a fake! It's a Chinese copy of Monte Cristo made in Taiwan. Lise, maternity, the hidden face of sexism. Yes, it's hidden. Look, I'm here. Ah, hi, I'm hidden. The hidden face, the garden of lost happiness.

Starting point is 02:11:02 I'm lost, sir, can you help me? I'm the happiness. Yes, of the lost happiness. I'm lost, sir, you can help me. I am happiness. Yes, it's straight to the end. Second door on the left, Clementine's flesh. Oh, Clementine, what a sweet flesh. Thanks to Eros and company,

Starting point is 02:11:18 I was able to discover the sweetness of Clementine's flesh. Thanks to their lotion, hot and cold. Yes, lotion hot and cold. I'm going to stop because I'm going to take out all the books. My first time that it happens, I love this moment. Thank you Anthony Cavana.

Starting point is 02:11:36 So thank you all for being there. Next podcast. Final which will be very hard to beat. I'm not going to be the only one with glasses. You too, put on glasses glasses. So put on your glasses. You see? Ah, bravo! It's going to be...

Starting point is 02:11:49 Hop to Réseau! Thank you again! Thank you, thank you. This episode was presented by Karine Jonquin, the Quebec skin care reference, and by the Marie-Club, which is a space dedicated to the best-being. Table games, Open Your Game, original edition and couple edition are available everywhere in stores and on Randolph.ca.

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