Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #110 Maxime Landry | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette
Episode Date: June 16, 2025Un Ouvre ton jeu dont je me souviendrai longtemps. Enregistré devant public, Maxime est arrivé avec sa guitare sur la scène. Il a bonifié quelques réponses avec des chansons qui prenaient toutes ...leur sens. Beaucoup de larmes ont coulé lors de cet épisode. Rencontre avec un homme qui a su donner un sens aux épreuves. Un chaleureux merci aux artistes et éditeurs de nous avoir permis d’utiliser leurs chansons lors de la diffusion denotre épisode avec Maxime Landry.Cache-cacheParoles et musique: Lynda LemayLe bonheur fait sa chanceParoles et musique: Alexandre Poulin━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:13:13 - Cartes vertes00:23:14 - Cartes jaunes00:54:07 - Cartes rouges01:14:20 - Cartes public01:18:21 - Cartes Eros01:31:14 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.
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Hello everyone, welcome to Ouvre Ton Jeu.
I'm going to introduce a very special episode that we lived.
It's the one with Maxime Landry that we shot a few weeks ago at Club 1030.
It's part of O Open Your Game on stage.
By the way, thank you to those who were present during this recording.
It really makes a big difference.
And Maxime is a friend.
He's someone who is particularly generous.
I've seen him several times exercise this generosity.
And he's very generous with his confidences too.
And he decided to bring his guitar on stage. And that's what made a big difference.
You're going to hear Cache Cache, which Linda Lomé wrote for him, which speaks about his father's death. Oh la la la la. In any case, I was
trembling, being sang by Maxime Landry, who comes to talk about the death of his father,
and then all of a sudden he sings it to us. We lived through something and I'm really
looking forward to reading your comments to know how you found this Open Your Game
accompanied by music that came to support Maxime's speech.
But all of this was absolutely improvised, but I found that it was of an incredible power.
So don't hesitate, I can't wait to read you.
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Merci à vous tous et bon épisode de Maxime Landry.
Hésitez pas à commenter.
Et quand il annonce le thème à la fin, il pose une ultime question,
puis Christian me demande et dit « Ah toi, in solitude, you were in your career,
but are you afraid of dying alone?
And that was the most intense question I had ever
asked myself. I never lied about that subject.
I often turned the question around, I often just
didn't talk about it because I wasn't ready to do it.
But I would never have said, like, I have a blonde or...
But at the same time, you were saying in your private life...
I didn't forget.
Yes, no, that's it, people around me knew.
It was publicly that you were gay.
And that's what's special, is that to this question, I took a little 2 minutes, 2 seconds. And I ended up saying, you know, Christian, I never talked about my homosexuality.
So yes, I'm afraid of aging on my own.
Because I'm not ready to go to the others and meet them.
I finished a show, I do what I have to do, I go back to my hotel room, I go home,
and I don't want to open up, go out with someone because I would never do that in my life.
And he was so unexpected when I said that.
I was just about to do my coming out.
I was just about to talk about it openly on a TV show.
And I came home in the evening and I was like,
am I going to have a little crisis management when the show is going to be aired?
So much so.
But I had this fear, I didn't want to.
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So now, I'm going to bring him in.
He's someone I've known for a long time.
We've already been on vacation together. He's not resting. He doesn't sleep.
No, he doesn't sleep. He's really not resting in that sense. He doesn't sleep much.
I think he's someone great, great sensitivity.
We met him at Star Academy, he won the season he was in.
I think he touched everyone with Star Academy, he touched us directly in the heart.
And then we learned to know him. Because we didn't lose him.
Sometimes there are winners that we don't see anymore.
But not him.
Because for him, you are important.
The audience has a place of heart in his heart.
And he is someone who is sensitive.
Someone who is an open book.
I think he trusts himself easily.
He teaches us a lot. And I always have the impression that he is an open book. I think he confides easily. He teaches us a lot and I always feel like he's an old man.
So I think it's going to be really interesting.
He has a lot to say. I can't wait to hear it.
It's been a long time since we talked.
But now he's with us, so I'm going to ask him to come in.
Maxime Landry. Hi! Hi! You like that, the audience? You're all good, huh? I've only known that.
But since when did I get you an audience?
You talk as if I had started at 4, but still!
When I was a kid, I was a little kid.
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I was a little kid. I was a little kid. I was a little kid. I was a little kid. I was a great audience. You know all the good things. I only know that.
But how old were you when you got an audience?
You're talking as if I had started at 4, but still, I was happy.
When did you start?
12 years old. I was 12 years old in the bars in my neighborhood, on stage, at the Relais du Sept, in my little village.
We have the right to be in a bar at 12 years old in Beauce.
My parents were there, all the time, hiding in a corner.
That's it. You didn't eat, did you?
No, 13.
No, but I've always been with people not my age.
In fact, when I started making music, Marie,
it was at the Mousse Lodge in Lac-Mégantic.
But it was people from the 60s, 70s.
And it was them, my friends. It was my grandfather who followed me.
And it was my grandfather, it was my best friend.
I was making music for these people.
And it wasn't at all from my time.
It was old-time country.
And I didn't really have any friends of my age when I was young.
But you know, I told you earlier that you were an old woman, but what you're saying is that.
You were already good with people who had lived much more than you.
Well, I was good. In fact, I found myself more in them than the young people of my age who were in school.
And the big problems of life were...
I lost my pencil case and that's like...
I didn't understand that.
There are more important things in life, your game is broken.
When I look at it today, have I ever had...
Have I ever been young? Have I ever had a child?
You've already had a child.
I don't know. Very few...
My God, are you already starting to know that tomorrow?
I'm hot.
But for real, if I ask myself the question, I think no.
I have very few memories of my...
Very few memories of my childhood.
Or is it because I wanted to erase them?
I don't know. I don't know why, but...
If I look at my photo albums, let's say...
There's a certain period in my life where I have no memories.
I feel like I've grown up at 12 when I started working.
And at 12, I was making my living as much as my parents.
I was doing like 3-4 nights in bars. It was my job.
I was 12. Think about it, I was high like that.
I didn't think you started young like that.
I look at a 12-year-old child today,
and my God, it's the last place I'd like him to be.
It's standing on stage in a bar.
But yet, that's where I learned my job,
and I don't regret it.
And it wasn't just for fun once in a while.
It was four nights a week.
It was intense.
I went to school the next morning morning and my hair smelled like cigarettes.
It was smoking in the bars at the time. I knew the last steps of the cigarette in the bars.
How are you doing?
I'm doing very well. I'm doing super well. Now, today, or in my life?
No, now.
Now, I'm doing better than a week ago.
It's been a week since I've been a little...
Is the beer in the tit worth anything, everyone?
Oh wow, okay.
Last week, it was the first time in my life
that I took a week off from radio
because I had shows every day.
And I made the road, and I wasn't the one driving,
but I went on stage and I was holding the primer.
It was a bit of a detour. So I was doing very well. I was going to blow up.
I hope I can do the split here before the end.
And you brought your friend with you, the guitar.
Yes, I brought the guitar because sometimes it's easier to talk through that, through music, through songs.
And I also brought my phone because talk through music, through songs.
I brought my phone too because I don't have a memory anymore.
Nothing is happening in my head anymore.
You can use it whenever you want. We like that.
So it's possible that I bring it out once in a while when I have something to tell.
Perfect. Are you ready to open your game?
I'm ready.
I'm so excited.
So the green level is the questions that are of general order.
The yellow level, it seems like there are more for now.
The yellow level, we're starting to be more specific.
The red level is of personal order.
The blue level, we're going to...
They said there are so many colors.
Well, it's new.
The blue level is because it's going to be the level of the public.
Okay.
Which will arrive soon.
We now have one question, which is our partner,
question SPA Eastman, which is unique for its exclusivity on Patreon.
Yes, I know, there are a lot of colors.
I said it myself, we left to...
Are we going to skip all of it?
Well, we should have finished by tomorrow morning.
You're not in a hurry, are you? The sexual and sensual eros level.
That's good. I'm not shaved, for example.
Is it...
I don't have time. I don't have time to do anything, Marie.
Does that mean we do it?
Or do we just shave?
It could be embarrassing, but we'll see.
We'll see. Maybe there will be volunteers in the room.
I don't know. And the question, optoraiso, it's always the question. We make sure we go...
We always end up gently. And your joker...
What's that?
That's when you're tired or you don't want to answer anymore or you think it's too personal.
OK. I'm stressed.
You're stressed?
Yes.
Well, look, you have a few questions. So we start with the green level.
But since there are more questions, we will only answer one question at the green level.
It's exceptional. When there's the public level, since I'm adding another one, I'll take one from the green level.
So you'll give me four and you'll choose one.
Do I have to brush them?
No, I just...
You brush them on the table.
I don't care if I have four.
Yes, you don't care if I have four. That's it.
We'll say these two.
Perfect.
These two.
Perfect. So, who's next?
Can you look at the others quickly to see if it's a good choice?
You're not in the right place.
But you'll go with you. You'll go with the game.
Perfect.
To be good with me, I have to...
Three little points.
Where do you feel you're in full possession of your means?
What importance do you give to others? And what are you afraid of? trois petits points, à quel endroit te sens-tu en pleine possession de tes moyens, quelle importance accords-tu au regard des autres et de quoi as-tu peur?
Même question plein d'oeil.
Oh! Là j'en choisis une ou je réponds à n'importe laquelle?
Non, tu te regardes, je vois que les données et t'en choisis une auxquelles tu devras répondre.
À laquelle tu devras répondre.
Ben je vais commencer en plus là. On a fait combien? Une. On a fait une seule. De quoi as-tu peur? C'est ça qui t'interpelle. I'll start there. How many did we do?
One.
We did one.
Just one.
What are you afraid of?
That's what you're asking.
What are you afraid of?
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm afraid of losing time in life.
I have a friend named Julie,
I haven't seen her in years.
She was following me when I was doing was competing, when I was a teenager.
I was already at the race and I had like a thousand lives at the same time.
She was very spiritual and she liked to see the lives before her.
She liked to do that for others around her, for her friends.
She said a sentence one of her previous lives, I had been killed or at least I was dead of happiness, and that I was going to die young in my current life.
That's why I run all the time after the time.
So since then, I don't know if it stayed in my head, but I'm afraid of missing out on time in my life.
You know, you said earlier that I wasn't going to propose to you on vacation,
and that I wasn't sleeping, but it's not different now.
It's been a long time, that trip, how many years? 10, 12 years?
Yes, it's been a long time.
But I'm still like that today, I sleep about two hours a night,
and I know, I've heard reactions. But that's it. It hasn't changed since then.
I know it's an unconscious fear of missing time, of leaving too quickly, of not having
time to do everything I want to do, what I want to accomplish in life. My father is dead. I was 16. He was 42. He was very young. I'm going to be 38 in a month.
It's crazy when I think about it. When my father died, I think I always saw him as old.
When we're younger, when we look at our parents, they're old people.
I get to the age that my father was when he died.
I look at his life, I look at where he went, how he left too.
I don't feel like he realized what he wanted to do in his life.
So I try as much as possible to be happy all the time, to do what I love.
But I know I do it too many times.
And I know it's because of that fear of missing time in life,
of leaving the next morning when something happens.
And aren't you afraid of getting exhausted and that it will also play with time?
Well, and that it will make me leave faster.
Or you'll stop.
That's what you mean, Marie. Stop being a jester.
No, but you know, in the sense that you'll have to stop taking a break.
It's true what you say. I didn't think about that, for example. But you know, in the sense that you should stop taking a break...
It's true what you're saying, I didn't think about that, for example.
The more I do, the less I rest, I can run faster because of that.
But you can get tired...
I'm burnt.
You don't have a solution, do you?
No, no, it's a vicious circle.
But after what do you run?
I don't know. That's what's...
That's what's sad, really. Because I don't know. It's not after money, it's not after success, it's not after life.
Is it because you're afraid?
Is it because you're afraid of the void and you're afraid to stop?
You know what? It also goes with another question that is that, you told me we could do just one. Can I get involved in the other one?
To be good. Where do I feel like I have the means and where I'm good?
It's in my job. It's through what I do.
And it's sad too, not being able to go and feel good and value myself
elsewhere than through my job job or what I do.
Maybe it's because I only knew that when I said earlier,
I started the podcast saying that I only knew that,
but it's a bit true.
And that's where I'm going to look for everything that makes me feel alive
and makes me feel good.
If I give my time, it makes me feel good.
The involvement I have with Operation Sunrise makes me feel good.
The people I meet who come to see me after the shows, they tell me they had a good time,
that it helped them, that such a song saved their lives.
There are a lot of people who have shared a lot over the years.
It made me feel like I had to do it as often as possible,
until I forgot. She even forgot about me. She asked me what I needed, what made me feel good.
In what you've put in place, to be good to yourself, I have to...
Work. It's a pity.
No, it's sad.
It's not a pity in the sense that you're aware of it, and you still have a place where you're good.
You understand, there are people who are good at nowhere.
You know, I'm happy to be with you.
That's the thing.
There are lots of things I do,
I don't feel like it's a job.
Because it's your passion.
That's what's dangerous.
I was talking about my father.
My father was a cook, he was a day cook,
he worked all the time. My father was a cook, he was a day cook, he worked all the time.
My father literally died at work. He died in a depression, in a burnout.
It wasn't a failure, but his business wasn't going well.
He worked a lot and that's what led him to death.
I don't have the impression that my father did what he liked in life and was ever happy in his work.
I don't feel like it felt accomplished as a human being.
I have this chance to do a job that I love where it's my passion.
I don't count the hours, I make music, I sing, I have people around me.
I grew up with my family who told me,
like, you, it's not a job, we know well, you just sing.
I said, OK, it's still hours of work and time because I do nothing else than that.
But in a way, I gave them a little reason by saying, it's true.
I'm just going to go do a show and it's true, I'm just going to go do a show, and it's true,
I'm going to be sitting in the car until Gatineau,
and I'm going to come back after Gatineau to make the road again,
to go do a radio show the next morning at 6 a.m.
I can't complain, I'm just going to be in a micro.
And you know, I come from a family in a village,
in my village down there where everyone works,
where it's the factory, it's the steel that's in Nam,
it's people who work 40, 50 hours a week, sitting on their front, who come back at the end of the factory, it's the steel that's in Nam. It's people who work 40, 50 hours a week,
sitting on their front, coming back at the end of the week,
who save a beer, and it's the weekend,
and they start again on Monday.
I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Me, me and my father, who...
But you were still in bars at 12 years old.
Yes, but I didn't feel like working.
I was singing, I had fun, I had fun.
But at the same time, what you're saying,
I think it's everyone's quest to get,
not to have nothing else, At the same time, what you're saying is the quest of everyone to find that in your life. There are many who will do a job they don't like,
and they can't wait for it to stop to do something they like.
That's true, but it can also become dangerous in another way.
It's too much.
Because it's a lot of hours, a lot of time, and I'm starting to feel it.
I'm still young, I'm 38 years old, and I feel a little bit...
But sleeping two hours a day, can you do that until your body starts to claim something else?
I think that's what started to happen, quietly.
After that, the other thing is that I don't know what I would like to choose.
I don't know what to say no to.
I have a lot of beautiful people around me.
I work more and more, that is to say that I produce my own stuff, I have other friends around me.
This week was the launch of Marie-Hélène Thibard, it's her album, I produced it.
I'm tripping with her. It's my whole job, my whole career, twice.
I put the same work, the same time I invest in…
You've known each other for a long time.
We've known each other for a long time. We've known each other for a long time.
She did Starak in 2003, I did it in 2009.
We met, we met on many stages.
There are many beautiful people around me with whom I want to work.
But each time, it's like I take my time and the time I invest on myself,
the time it takes for my career, I take it and put it on someone else. It's Marie-Hélène, it's that, with Brigitte, it's that.
So it's a lot of time, but it's exciting. It's exciting, I love it.
And I wouldn't want to do anything else, you know.
But I know and I realize that I have to be careful and that I take time.
But in any case, it's okay. It's better than anything else.
But your friend who told you that, did'm fine. Maybe your friend told you that. Did she tell you that you're going to die?
Yes, she didn't tell me that I was going to die.
I didn't really express it.
I understood that.
No, it's that in another life, I was dead young.
And that's what makes me unconsciously stop running all the time.
She didn't tell me that you were going to die young.
Okay, because we have a lot of specialists.
I know, I didn't really express it.
We've been hanging around this friend.
No, no, no, she didn't tell me that I was going to die young.
You're fine, you're fine.
We love you.
Okay, okay.
I'm going to die young.
I'm going to die young.
I'm going to die young.
I'm going to die young.
I'm going to die young.
I'm going to die young.
I'm going to die young. I'm going to die young. I'm going to die young. I'm going to die young. I know, I've had it a bit. We've been hanging out with that friend.
No, she didn't tell me I was going to die young.
You're fine, you're fine. We love her.
We still love her.
I still love her too, I don't see her often.
You're going to give me four.
Your phone is open.
It's a kid.
I want to answer.
I've already done that.
My God. We've already done that. You say it, but... My God!
We've already done that.
But maybe that's my mom.
My mom writes me all the time at times.
Notifications come to my brain.
It's done for that.
I put it there because,
if I have to do a tune,
I can't remember anything.
I'll let it run there.
It's my problem.
Do you remember during your holidays,
you texted someone and I thought you weren't...
I wasn't focused.
I know you weren't focused.
It's someone who wanted it to go further with you.
I thought you weren't really saying what you wanted to say.
You wanted to play. And I answered.
You wanted to play a little bit of the game for me.
Yes, and I answered for you. I took your phone. We'll tell you the real deal.
But it's always easier to talk when we're not concerned.
I would also like to answer your texts sometimes.
Don't pass your phone.
Yes, that's it. I was going to do... you see, I didn't bring it.
You're going to give me four questions.
Perfect.
There's a map. Did you see everything?
There's a map. No, no, no.
I think I'm going to choose one. Give me four. questions. Perfect. There's a card. No, no, wait.
You can choose one. Give me four.
The first four.
Perfect. He wants to go there.
How is your relationship with...
Joker! No, no.
How is your relationship with money
has evolved over time?
What did René Angelil teach you?
What traits of character did you inherit from your father?
What do people reproach you the most often?
I'll pick one and start. I'll go with the trait of character I inherited from my father.
I'll go with that, do you know why? Because I like talking about my father. And I... At the beginning of my career,
it was more that.
People were curious and wanted to know how my father had left,
and the place he had in my life.
And at some point,
even if I forgot a little bit,
and I...
You know, I arrived, I realized my dream,
I had just released my first album,
and the first question I was asked was,
So your father committed suicide, how did you live that?
And I thought it was rough and it got me into it.
But it's true.
But it's the way it came out.
Do we have time to come back to that?
We have time.
I'm at Star Academy, we're in a TV show,
there are 3.2 million people listening.
I don't know this place, I don't know the cameras.
I just got here, I'm leaving, they came to surprise me, I was on my four feet pulling a cow.
I was working on a farm, I was working on a farm, you know, as your life is about to change, I didn't understand how much.
So I left my job, I settled down for 10 weeks, no more contact with my mother, no more contact with my family.
It wasn't going very well in my family at that time.
When my father left, the family had burst out, everyone left, everyone from their bar.
I arrive in a TV show where we are interested in your life, we want to talk,
we want to know where you come from.
We like to know that in life that you have a good family,
that you have brothers and sisters,
and that you... And I didn't recognize myself in that.
And I didn't know how to say it, how to do it.
You know, my family, we don't talk, we don't see each other.
When my father left, everyone left, everyone on their side.
So I didn't want to, I didn't want to talk about it.
But now I'm there as an artist, an interpreter,
who's going to sing songs and who wants to make
people understand why he chose a song, and I'm going to sing a song from L'Homme,
called Ne T'en Va Pas, which I want to do for my father.
I don't know if you remember, if you listened to Star Academy in 2009,
but it was Patrick Huard who was there as an interpreter.
And I tell Patrick, I say, I want to do it for my father,
but I don't want it to be on TV, I don't want to talk about it.
But my father died, I was 16.
I don't think my father was happy in life,
but I want to pay homage to him through this song.
I told him all of that, a little like I told you earlier.
After that course, I went to see the production and I told them,
I don't want it to be released,
I didn't want to see the time, I didn't want to be pitied, I didn't want to talk about it because I wasn't healed and I wasn't there at all.
And on Sunday, the gala is live.
And I understand, I know that's how it works, and it's on TV, and when you agree to participate in a show like this, you accept that things like this happen.
I'm standing on stage, we're live, my mother is in the room.
I haven't spoken to her for several weeks because we don't have any contact.
We have a minute a day on the phone.
And then Julie announces that she's launching the topo of the candidate put in danger, me,
of the week, and the first thing we see in the topo is me saying to Patrick Huard,
my father committed suicide when I was 16.
And I still remember being up on stage and trembling like it's not possible,
telling myself, I told them I didn't want it to pass,
and then I see my mother, who was in tears in front of me,
who was not ready to live that, she did not choose to live that.
My mother gave interviews before me.
The 10 weeks I was at the Academy, we did not talk to the media.
They had already traced my mother on Facebook.
My mother gave the first interviews even before me.
That's what we were talking about.
Your husband took his life away, and how your son lived.
I wanted to do that for a long time, really long time.
I even asked myself live, what do I do?
Do I leave the stage and I'm not going to sing my tune?
And it goes fast.
It's like a topo that lasts one minute and thirty seconds before I sing.
And I ended up saying to myself, if I don't go,
no one will understand why I left and left the stage.
No one knows what's going on.
No one knows that I asked if it wasn't broadcasted.
So I did it. I sang in a trembling way.
And it was months later that I understood why that happened.
I left on tour. There's a line from L'Aimé that wrote me a song after.
A song called CacheCache for my father.
That song was therapeutic for me, but I also know from all the people who came to see me to share their stories that it saved lives for others.
I went on tour afterwards, I did like a hundred shows, And I remember one night, we were in Rimouski.
I met everyone after the show, and there was a lot of people.
It took me as long to be with the people afterwards as the show lasted.
And there's a man who's there, who's in the stairs,
and he's waiting until the end.
And we always have a little contact.
I don't know why, but I said to myself,
he makes me think of my father, this man.
And he stayed until the very end.
He was the last person to get up when everyone left.
And I went back to my room and he came to me and he said...
He was coming home from work a few weeks before coming to see me in the show.
He would come home from work one night, discouraged.
He had decided that it was over and that he was not going to go home,
that he was not going to go home.
He had decided that he would end his life in his car.
And he said, at that moment, your tune, cache-cache, went on the radio.
And I remembered hearing you talk about it in an interview,
what it had done to you to lose your father in that way, and I told myself that I would never make my children live without it.
So that's where I said, that's exactly why it had to be released. Thank you to the entire Star Academy team, thank you to the production,
I just wasn't ready to live it, and they didn't do it in a bad way.
It was just a TV show and we wanted to be true to the world.
That's when I decided I was going to close the door on it,
and if there was only one person who had to hear me speak, I would do it.
And I think that as a TV-host, it allowed me to understand you, to know that.
Well, maybe there are people who understood things that I didn't understand myself.
Because I made my eye with the world in real life.
Would you like to give us a little bit of cash cash? With pleasure.
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I have a dry throat.
It's so touching.
I don't know if you have a guitar in front of you. The words I would need so much You chose to jump so high
That you never went back down
The rainy nights I look for you in the water
You're hidden, I'm lost
When we play with these marbles
When we play with these marbles Oh, don't do that! I'm tall from my whole body But I feel small and weak I'm awake when the world sleeps
I'm still looking under my bed
It was my favorite hideout
Where I waited for you, your foot
Without breathing, I was walking your feet Là où je t'attendais tapis Sans respirer, je quittais tes pieds
Mais j'avais peur que tu m'oublies
Alors je bougeais pour que tu me vois
Tu disais, ça y est, te voilà
Puis je sortais tout plein de poussière
Tu m'étreignais, puis j'étais fier
Tu m'étreignais puis j'étais fier
Il n'y aura pas d'autre fois Rien que de vie de lendemain
Puisque tu ne reviendras pas
Non, je suis pas idiot, je le sais bien
Je te chercherai toujours un peu I know it well I will always look for you a little bit
Like so many people looking for nothing
Like so many believers looking for God
Like in the good times, like kids
I would like you to move so I can see you
Then you come out, covered in center
And I'll say, here you are
I'll stretch my arms, I'll go and take you
And I promise you that you'll be proud
So please, make me some noise
If you don't move from your mark
Aren't you afraid that I'll forget you? Si tu bouges pas de ton repère N'as-tu pas peur que je t'oublie?
Il n'y aura pas d'autrefois
J'ai beau prier, ça sert à rien
Personne ne te trouvera
Tu t'es caché beaucoup trop bien C'est même plus drôle ce petit jeu-là You'll find yourself, you're hiding too well
It's even funnier, this little game
It's not even fair, you're too far away
This little hide, it didn't count
I won't count when you're in my corner
Millions of times until the end With both hands on your eyes I'm not going to find you.
You won, I lost.
I'm not going to find you.
I lost, I lost.
I lost, I won't find you
You won, I lost you
There will be no other way
That's what hurts me, that's what kills me
But the promise I make you
Is that one good time
I don't want you anymore
Oh, my God. What does it do to you when you sing that? I sing it differently today. I remember the first time I heard that song.
Linda heard me sing it, don't go to the academy, and she sang a song for you,
and I heard you talk about your father.
I received it as a gift because I was so excited about Linda LeMay,
but when I read it, I thought it was bigger than that.
I was jealous, actually.
What a lake.
Because that's all I wanted to say.
I was like, how could you put those words in there?
The last sentence is so powerful, the whole story, but the song ends up saying,
it's that one good time I wouldn't want it anymore. When I started singing that song,
I wanted it so much. I wanted to have left us, I wanted to have left my mother,
not to have been sought for help, not not have been able to find a solution.
I've already seen it as a sign of weakness, while I now understand that it was going further than that.
And over time, by singing it, by jazzing it, by telling it, I changed my way of seeing his departure. I don't want it anymore. I don't want it anymore today.
I was too young to understand life, to understand his life, and yet I was close.
I think I wanted as much to myself as to him not to realize it.
We have four children at home. I have two brothers and a sister, an older brother,
a younger brother and my sister, who is the baby of the family.
And it's four of them, it's me who was the closest to my father.
I was always with him, no matter what he did, no matter his passions, it was my passions.
It was like, he likes horses, I like horses.
I don't know, it was my model, it was my idol.
When my father died, I bought the lottery ticket.
I was always with him at the lottery.
My horse was there.
At the restaurant, it was the same thing.
I was delivering pizza. I was 11 years old, no driver's license.
Because my father had a restaurant.
Oh my God!
You know, I started my driver's license with, I don't know, a lot of fines.
And he didn't even want to give me my driving license, because I had been stopped delivering pizza.
But in fact, ok, my father is a very good father, and I grew up with his tractors.
He didn't tighten his rules.
I drove at home, I grew up on a farm with tractors.
Oh yeah, that was before the driving license for several.
That's it. Well, yeah, yeah.
So, but you know, it was a little bit me too who took the car without asking for permission.
And that's it.
But I had been stopped with a pizza that I had to bring to the corner of the street.
And I went with the car and I made a huge detour in the village.
Then I crossed the police.
And when I went to pass my driving license several years later, there was an amendment in my file.
I already had a almost criminal file there. Because my father was not someone who was good at his business.
My father was a factor, but he was the most disorganized factor in his own courier. I've never seen that in my life.
When my father died, I found hydro accounts in the back of his car.
I was like, if he's not open, he's not paid.
And I jumped in his boots.
When my father died, I was the one who dropped out of school to be a factor, to take his job.
And I wanted to walk in his footsteps.
I wanted to do what he was doing.
I was 16 years old.
I worked in a nursery.
I was working in the and I worked in a I knew right away that it was that, even if there was no sign of a run-up. I knew it was that.
I was so connected, we were so close, both of us.
And it took a few days.
My father died on August 28.
In September, I started school.
It took a few days.
I was on the school bench and after three days,
to have someone in front of me talking to me,
but I don't know his name.
I have no interest. Everything he tells me, I get.
It was like, it was no longer my place. I dropped out of school and I was the only one
who was doing the job with my father, so I dropped out of school to be a driver.
So I got in his car, I didn't have a driver's license.
I was a driver, not a driver's license, Marie.
That's all true, what I'm telling you.
You don't do much in the rules until now.
No.
Indeed.
Canada Post wasn't signed at that time.
I don't want to receive a mail.
Yes, that's it.
Since then, it's not like that anymore.
But in fact, I had my temporary permit.
And I hired someone.
I gave him half of my salary to be seated next to me so that I could be a factor.
Because I had a temporary permit and it took someone with his real permit next to me.
So that's how I started and I got into his car.
There was a little car, because I wouldn't say the brand,, but there's still one. No, but it was the smallest car you can imagine,
because it takes a lot of fuel, it's a factor.
And there was a pack of cigarettes in the console.
I entered his car, day one, I finished his pack of cigarettes,
I started smoking, I had never smoked in my life.
It's like all of a's like I was my father. I was doing the post run, I lit a cigarette, I don't understand what happened.
But it was that. I was 16. And I smoked for a long time. I stopped smoking when I was like 20. What age am I? I'm 37. I've been smoking for about 8 years.
So it lasted a long time. I'm now 37, so I've been smoking for about 8 years.
So it lasted a long time.
It lasted a long time, but it's...
But it's like he's with you a little bit.
I was in his shoes.
I became my father.
And what did you inherit from your father?
His character trait?
Probably his perseverance, his character strength.
My father is an entrepreneur,
he always saw things bigger.
My father built a restaurant in our village.
It was a village of 2,000 to 3,000 inhabitants.
It was a huge restaurant with a smoky side,
non-smoker side, a Chinese buffet.
It was way too big for the place, but my father had great ambitions in life,
and my parents were like that when he wanted something in life, he had it.
So that's the model I got.
So that's what guides me in my life today.
When I want something, I do it.
All the time, way too grand, pis je le sais. Je pars
en tournée, on sort d'une pandémie dans des salles à 200 personnes, distancées, pis
ah ben je verrais un show avec un décor, pis un gros camion, pis 12 personnes sur la route,
pis le décor, les musiciens, les changements de costumes, ça a tout le temps été ça,
même si tout le monde me disait que ça n'a pas de bon sens. Là en ce moment, les gens The change of costumes, it was always that. Even if everyone was telling me, it doesn't sound good.
Now people are telling me, we can't produce albums anymore, it doesn't sound good.
Perfect, I'm going to do four in four months.
What I did there with Rita Bagard, Brigitte Boisjolli,
Marie-Hélène Thibard, and Annie Blanchard, and me.
The last one just came out.
But I'm holding on to that from my father, that kind of madness.
Who are you to tell me that it doesn't make sense?
I'm going to show you that it can be done.
I follow my instinct.
You started by saying, I like talking about my father.
Yes, I love it.
Does it keep you alive somewhere to talk about it?
My father never left for me.
In the sense that through my music, through my songs, I think of him every time I get on a stage.
My father used to come see me make music. My mother too, my mother used to be there every night.
When my father came, it was when he could close the restaurant. It's great fun, but he would sit at the bottom of the bar,
take his beer, and he would finish it a little little hot and I would help him get out. But he had so much pride in his eyes.
For me, it's like he never left.
What I find sad is that we are...
It's not like today.
We have memories of everything with our phones, with this baby who was angry but who saves our lives.
Me too, I'm sorry, I didn't put it on the right side. I don't remember him anymore.
I don't remember his voice.
The first time I realized that, I noticed how he spoke when he was shouting after us.
You understand?
He forgot that.
Yes, when he told us to get up in the morning to go to school, I don't remember his voice. When he was shouting after us, we were waiting. You understand? You forgot that.
Yeah, when he was telling us to get up in the morning to go to school, I don't remember his voice anymore.
And even all the tapes we have, videos, it's like we don't hear anything.
It's a family party. There's music, I see it.
But I don't have any audio.
And now with our phones, that's the advantage?
Well, yes.
Because we have so many videos of, yes, we can hear the voice.
But I wonder, all the time, every day, through everything I do, would you be proud of that?
Would you be proud of who I have become?
Thank you!
Someone said yes. Thank you. No, but it's true. He saw you do that. It's like he followed your path.
He saw you on stage, he went to see you sing.
I mean, everything you did, you followed his footsteps in the center of the grandiose.
But I didn't have it long enough.
Yeah, you didn't have it long enough.
And he didn't see anything of what I'm doing today. When my father is dead, I... I haven't had it for a long time. Yes, you haven't had it for a long time. And there's nothing...
There's nothing to do with what I'm doing today.
When my father is dead, I...
If I was a teenager who was looking for something...
But do you think you would have won Star Academy without your father?
I don't know.
I don't know, because...
Would you have sung if you existed?
Surely not. I would have... if God existed? Surely not.
If the story hadn't come out either...
When I say that I didn't talk about it, the proof is that I didn't want it to come out.
I didn't talk about it to attract sympathy, the empathy of the world.
That people pity me by saying,
Oh, my little one, his father committed suicide when he was 16.
It wasn't that at all.
It's just that at all.
It's just that at 21, I had nothing else.
I had lived nothing else than that.
It was me, it was who I was.
It took a lot of space in my life, in my heart.
But what you mean by your way of interpreting,
it brought a sensitivity,
prematurely, for a 21-year-old boy.
That's right. A maturity. I know that. When you say it in an open way,
you say it in a present way, it's like an old woman. I've heard that since I was 7 or 8.
It's true. Everyone always told me that. When I said that my grandfather was my best friend, I would go to the crib with him every night when I left school.
I was always with the older ones. Yes, it brought me maturity. I grew up faster than I should have.
I don't feel like I've had childhood, youth, adolescence, even in my songs choices.
First audition I did, oh my God!
You know, when I was looking at my friends in primary school,
I couldn't believe that they were going to beat you because you broke your pedal bike.
There are more important things than that in life.
But when I was choosing my songs, it was a bit like that too.
I couldn't, and I have nothing against those who do, but singing makes the birds laugh.
What did you choose?
First audition.
I'm 20 years old, I arrive and there is happiness.
It's like 4.30 in the morning, I arrive in Quebec for the Star Academy auditions.
There's no way to get there.
The shopping mall in Quebec closed at that time.
But I worked on a farm, so it was my hour.
So I wait, I wait, I wait.
Then at some point, everyone arrives.
The showbusiness bus was closing the door.
It's maybe 8 o'clock.
So I'm the one who opened the door.
I was the first to go to an audition.
Introduce myself. I sang the little boy from the I sang the little boy from the
And there's no cat that looked at me.
I have such an impression of annoyed because
you know, a young man of 20 years who arrives,
it's 8 a.m. and I'm coming with my song.
But I liked that, I liked to interpret texts.
I've never played that in my life on guitar.
It's 8 a.m. with the other.
I remember them.
They didn't have their coffee.
He must be saying,
where did he come from?
He's good, he's magnificent.
There's no cat that's going to look at me.
There are four of them in a row.
It's funny.
There are four of them.
Anyway. Nobody raises their head.
I sing and they're like that.
And at the end, thank you very much.
I saw the audition of Star Academy.
I know you're asking others to do a moving tune and can you do something else?
Yes, but they don't ask me. I went back home, very insulted.
I was like, hey, they hated that, I didn't choose the right tune.
It was maybe a little intense for 8am. The next morning, there was an article,
it was the first page of the Quebec newspaper, I guess. The topo on Star Academy, on auditions,
the title was, the future belongsai rouvert à la porte. Puis quelques jours après, ben
en fait, même pas dans cette journée-là, je recevais le téléphone pour me dire que
je passais comme directement aux auditions télévisées. Fait que j'étais un peu moins
insulté qu'il ne m'ait pas regardé d'en faire. Je pense qu'il y avait une télé
pis il regardait comme... Mais je I can understand that you had a confusion.
Well, yes. I was like, hey, I had prepared that.
Before doing these auditions, I did a whole package of contests, okay?
And I worked like three jobs at the same time.
I was a day-taker, I worked in a wood shop at night.
At the end of the week, I was making music. I was raising money to be able to record models,
to do contests, and you know, Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
I won a 1,000-dollar scholarship that would allow me to record another model to do another audition.
At that time, at 20, for me it was already the last audition.
If it didn't work, I stopped everything.
I saw everyone around me, those my age, they had families, not families, but they were already starting to know what they wanted in life and to move.
I was so not there, I made music and I sing and I don't even know if it will give something one day.
So at 20 years old, when I say life in acceleration, 20 years for me was already, hey, if it doesn't work there.
I don't know what else I would have done today.
And I keep saying that it's a bit, it's this job that saved my life for real.
If I'm alive today, for real, it's thanks to this job.
I see you from the side. You were going to pick up another card, but you were like, maybe we'll let her go on that.
Well, because I have a red question that goes in that direction.
Is that sexual?
No, that's...
No.
I think that on the yellow level, we'll also ask one question because I...
But I'm too old.
But no, you're not too old.
We're going to leave the honor to your father on the yellow level.
Because I think another question is weird.
I'm going to let you pick in the red I'll see if you'll fall for my question.
One?
I'll give you three.
I'll give you three.
What was your father's first name?
Bertrand.
Bertrand.
And my mother is Doris?
Yes, like my mother.
Like your mother.
We each have... my mother and yours have little resemblances.
Yes.
Little curves. My mother died now, but we still have mothers who have been intense.
Yes.
We were talking about our Doris, and maybe it comes with the first name.
In a beautiful way, but my mother attracts juice.
I'm burned just seeing her go.
Just to read her texts, her messages. It's a stormy day. I sometimes fall asleep.
There was something funny that happened. You know, at one point, you wrote, wait, it's your mother, you wrote,
because she wrote a post on her Facebook page, professional, and your mother wrote in the messages, I'm coming with the sugar pie.
And I said, oh, Lise Doris.
Because...
The number of times I say that...
And then finally, there are a lot of people who wanted to make you sugar pie.
It's funny.
Oh yes, intense, but...
In a beautiful way.
With a big heart. Huge, huge heart. And she was a hard worker too.
And when she wanted something, she would arrange it.
She could have it too.
I think she was in eight houses.
I was like, what's going on with this?
I'm going to put tenants in it.
I was just burning to see her go.
I was like, you're a little PME.
And now my mother is a factor. Now it's her who took...
Finally, that's it. We all know how to get through that.
From one to the other.
Wait, I want to see... I want to...
We're going to give her the cap.
She found a job at Walmart.
In addition?
Well, yeah.
Okay, but it's family business.
He stayed like 8 hours the weekends.
So you never see each other?
No, no, we don't see each other often.
OK.
In fact, when I want to see my mother, it's work.
Because...
Because I have to go get her.
Because she can't go to the city, to drive, and it's fine, it's perfect.
But it happens to me sometimes...
Now I'm in Sherbrooke for the radio.
If I do a show in Montreal, somewhere, I leave Sherbrooke. the radio. If I have a show in Montreal, I leave Sherbrooke,
I go looking for a job.
I take her to the show in Montreal, I go back to the job
and I come back to do my radio show the next day.
It's still a little bit of...
A little bit of planning.
A little bit of planning, yes.
So I'm going to ask you the four questions.
You don't like the rules so much,
and until now we don't really respect the rules.
Did I scrap your podcast?
No, you put it somewhere else. I like it a lot. I like that a lot.
In fact, I like it a lot too when we go beyond the limits.
Okay.
You see the link I found with what you just said, have you ever thought of dying?
We're on the red level.
What is your biggest insecurity source?
Have you neglected certain aspects of your life?
Is it easy for you to say, I love you?
I'll go through them one after the other.
Ok.
It's very easy.
We don't know the rules.
It's very easy for me to say, I love you.
Ok. It's very easy for me to say I love you. I love to say I love you. And I love the world. In life.
Did I neglect some aspects of my life? Yes, I neglected a lot of aspects of my life. Social life, while leaving.
My friend, when was the last time we saw each other? It's been a long time.
We talk to each other to do interviews on the radio when you invite me.
But before we saw each other.
We saw each other before. You're right.
It's the same thing with Annie Brocoli, with lots of people that I love deeply, my friend Rebecca.
OK, so I'm not the only one.
Don't worry. Don't worry. Everyone...
And I know it, and I don't even know what to do.
But at the same time, Maxime, I see you everywhere.
I see you on tour, I see you with Annie Blanchard,
a new album, a new production.
I don't even know what to do.
You do radio, it's already exciting.
I... I know it's going to take me some time,
and quickly, because it can't go on like this for long.
Just the last two years, it's seven days out of seven, all the time.
It's five days a week on the radio and I'm on the show every weekend, Saturdays and Sundays.
You have choices to make.
I know there will be choices to make in the coming years.
I know I've neglected a lot of people around me, and I realize that.
The chance I have is that I have extraordinary people around me who don't want me around,
who understand when I tell them that I don't even know what I would do if I didn't do that.
So for me, when I had the opportunity to animate Arrête Mes Femmes in Estrie,
even if it was in Estrie, everyone was telling me, but you look, it doesn't sound good, you're going to make the road.
Well, I'll see.
And finally, I bought a house over there, I settled there.
But it doesn't sound good.
What are you going to do when you make it on tour?
Well, I'll see.
And finally, I've been doing it for two years, and I'm making the road.
Except that I get up at 3.30 am to do the radio five days a week.
I come back from a show at midnight.
So when I say that I sleep two hours a night, it's literally sleeping two hours a night.
I know it doesn't sound good and I'm not thinking right now. On the contrary, I feel at peace sometimes. You mean you know it can't last forever?
I know, but I'm doing it, I'm enjoying it, I feel good about it, I like it.
But what makes me feel more sorry about it is the world I'm neglecting.
But I feel good in it.
It may have a link with the biggest source of insecurity,
but not because I wasn't afraid of missing a job,
I wasn't afraid of missing anything in life.
I've always trusted life,
but it goes a little with what I said earlier,
I love what I do and I don't count the hours. And my father didn't have that confidence in life, but it goes a little with what I was saying earlier, I like what I do and I don't count the hours.
And my father didn't have that chance in life.
Have I ever thought about my parents? I've spent all four of them.
Don't be afraid of that.
Joe Kirk's four? No.
Yes, and I've even already talked about it.
When you have someone around you who takes away your away, you have no answer to your questions.
When you are young, and that's why it's important to talk about it, it's easy to see it as a solution to your problems.
The pain of suffering.
Yes, exactly. And it's already been that for me. I was at home, I was in Bosse, my father left, it was my model.
I don't know what I'm going to do in life, I'll tell you about that before I do Star Academy in 2009.
So between 16 and 20 years, it was hell. It was total darkness.
And maybe that's why the kind of mental cut that happened when I told you that I don't have many memories of my youth. I was so deeply moved by that period.
It was such an intense period for me and he said exactly what I wanted to say about it.
If I had gone into action, if I had taken my life, I would never have known what was coming.
It's worth hanging on to, even without knowing it, and even if sometimes it seems like there is no solution and there is no way out,
it's worth hanging on to life and something will happen. For me, it was that.
I stopped thinking about it the day I was chosen to do Star Academy.
It's nonsensical.
You always had that door of exit in your head.
It came back all the time.
As soon as something was happening around me,
as soon as I wasn't doing well,
as soon as I was tired, as soon as there was an intense period of life,
for me it wasn't positive. I saw people around me who were just getting along, it seemed like they were doing well in their lives.
I was looking at mine and I thought that nothing good was happening. I wanted to end it, and it was like that. And it was like that, not all the time, all the time,
but it was often between 16 and 21 years old.
And the day, clearly, the day I stopped thinking about it,
it was the day I realized my dream,
or I was chosen for Sarah Academy.
And I say that, for me, it was the trigger
because from the moment I left for Montreal, my whole life changed.
You know, the fact that I had never talked about my homosexuality before, that too was something else that weighed on me.
I had the impression that I would never be able to be happy in life, and that happiness was not made for me,
and that everyone around me was happy. What I did in life was to make music on weekends.
I danced with people who had fun, who took their beers,
who were in love.
I was alone on the stage.
I knew, I knew, I knew I loved men.
But for me, it was impossible.
I was in my little village and I looked around me. It was impossible to make a but for me it was impossible. I was in my little village, and I looked around me,
and it was impossible to make a life for myself.
It would never happen.
And it was from the moment I moved to Montreal,
first to do what I love, I arrived in a place where
it was so normal and accepted, and on the set where I was,
I was like, my God, it's normal, it's accepted.
I have the right to live, I have the right to exist, I have the right to breathe, I have the right to love.
From that moment on, I never thought about taking my life away.
It's crazy, huh?
And it's crazy.
And the first time I talked about it, you know the show, There's People in the Mass.
I'm with Christian in Belgium and they invite me to do the show.
And there's a word, a theme that connects all the guests. And we were the loneliness.
And the director of the show said, we're going to talk about the fact that you're managing your career yourself,
and that you don't need anyone, and that it's going to be the loneliness in your career.
And I arrived on the set in the afternoon, I was playing the guitar, I was singing in the show,
and we were shooting the second day, but I arrived to rehearse in the afternoon.
There was no electricity, and it was a big team, and we waited, we waited, we didn't send the world home.
Finally, it was like midnight, one hour in the morning before we started shooting.
And you know, we don't spit in the mass wine, in life.
So you drank a little bit.
After a little glass.
A little glass of white wine.
A little glass of white wine, and you know, I was with the world.
And finally, we shot the show.
And when he announces the theme at the end, he asks one last question.
And Christian asks me,
and says, you know, loneliness was in your career and all that, but are you afraid of dying alone?
And that was the most intense question I had ever asked myself.
I never lied about that subject. I often turned the question around, I often just didn't talk about it because I wasn't ready to do it.
But I never said, I have a blonde or...
But at the same time, you said in your private life...
I didn't have one either.
Yes, no, that's it, people around me knew.
It was publicly that you were...
People around me knew, even though...
And that's what's special, is that to this question, I took a little two minutes, two seconds, to answer this question.
And I ended up saying, you know, Christian, I never talked about my homosexuality.
So yes, I'm afraid of aging on my own.
Because I'm not ready to go to the others and meet them.
I finish a show, I do what I have to do, I go back to my hotel room,
I go home and I don't want to open up, go to to jail with someone because I would never do that in my life.
And then, they didn't expect me to talk about that.
I had just done my coming out, that's a gesture.
I had just talked about it openly in a TV show.
And then I come home in the evening and I was like,
Oh, am I going to have a little crisis management when the show is going to be aired?
Not really. But I was afraid, I didn't want to.
And all I received were messages of love from people who said,
can you just be happy, you bastard? It's just love, we're talking about love.
It doesn't hurt anyone. Thank you.
And what's special is that there's a friend named Sarah Bourdon who is on...
You know, in life, it's like if there's no chance, it's like all the meetings in my life,
and I know I have that chance, and my good star is there, and things happen,
and they happen when they have to happen.
And I realize that during the show, when I say that, I see my friend Sarah Bourdon, who is in the heart, you know, the heart of Y a du monde à la n'est, the choir that sings our names.
But Sarah Bourdon, I've known her since 2009, we've been friends for years, a friend I don't see anymore because I don't have time,
but she still wrote a song for me that talks about that, about my homosexuality.
I never assumed that song.
I used to do it at home, on my piano, when all my friends were there,
and we would have a glass of wine.
Everyone, my family, my friends, all those who knew me and who knew my life,
knew that song.
It was so beautiful when you said you were going to do it.
I can't do it.
I can't because I don't assume it. The day I'm going to do it. I can't do it. I can't because I don't assume it.
And the day I'm going to do it, I'm going to say why.
I'm not going to invent a story about the song and say that it's not my life, so it's not the question.
And when I left, the week after, I went into the studio, I watched Sarah, I went to see her, I recorded her song.
The week after, I went into the studio and I recorded it and, and the next week I went to the studio and recorded it and sang it.
And from that moment on, I started doing shows, jazzing.
It was the same thing as suicide.
People came to see me afterwards to tell me that when I heard them talking,
it gave me the strength to do my own coming out.
I receive messages every week from people who write to me saying that it has saved my life.
For me, there was no end to it and I thought I would never be able to be happy.
I heard about it and I took my courage in both hands and I came to talk to my family.
Because unfortunately, it is still a cause of suicide, the important one, homosexuality.
There are many who will prefer stop living than live freely.
It's terrible. It's sad Marie.
And I've always said that it's going to happen sooner or later.
Or as long as someone is going to come and see me and tell me,
I saw you talking about it there.
You were on stage at such a place, I was there.
And it did me feel so good.
I will never close the door on it again. I will always continue to do it.
And the song, I take the time to present it and tell the story.
Will you take us to a little bit?
Well, I can.
Is your heart broken right now?
I'm in love with life. I'm in love with love.
I fall in love with life. I'm in love with love. I'm in love with a lot of things.
You love a lot of things. Do you understand?
Hehehehe.
Uhmm...
Joker card!
Ahahahahaha!
Ah, well, you used it! Okay, perfect!
You're sensitive.
Yeah.
When I say I'm afraid to live alone,
that's it.
You still have that fear?
But I don't want to receive messages either.
From someone who would like to accompany you.
From a lot of people.
No, it's like if, I don't know, it seems like I've been able to...
I don't know.
It seems like I'm not capable anymore.
I sometimes feel like I haven't been able to give anything. It's weird like I'm not capable anymore. Sometimes I feel like I have nothing to give.
It's weird what I'm going to say there.
But...
I give love to many people.
I'm going to talk in old age. Sometimes it happens to me.
When you meet that person, you won't think about what you just said.
Maybe.
It's not calculated. Love doesn't quantify itself. It's felt.
And that doesn't take place in a time, the feeling.
Ah, that's beautiful.
I imagine. But sometimes, sincerely, I feel like it's going to take over somewhere.
I could lie down here and with that...
But it's for sure that you need a little time to meet people.
No, no, but...
I'm going to take over the public level, by the way.
We're almost back in Eros.
We feel good, we feel good.
We're getting there.
I'm all wet.
We're almost there.
No, but what I mean is, it's for sure that it takes a little space in time
to give you the chance to meet this person.
I'm not focused anymore. I'm hot. I'm not on it anymore.
Can I have the public level, please?
Public level? What's going on?
That's it. Everything will change. We'll turn the set aside.
Do I have something to do?
Thank you, Valérie. Page 3, please.
Are these questions from you?
Yes!
Stop it. I don't know the pages. I'm in 3. 3. You want 3, please. Are these questions from you? Yes! I don't know them.
Page 3.
I'll read them for you.
It's not that. It's just not folded.
It doesn't take much to get me distracted.
We encourage the difference in one that is not folded.
Do I read them?
No, that's still me.
The rules, not all of them. we're not going to change them all.
I used it, but not completely. Can you keep it?
No, it's over. I had the right to use it once, and you used it when it started to interest me.
So you're done.
Ah, that's your rules!
Well, it's my rules that I respect. No, but it's perfect.
How is your relationship with the family when we are in a position of loyalty?
That's Renelle who asked that question.
That's a question.
Then you'll choose one.
Sylville Archeveil who came to see us earlier.
Hello Maxime, how did you overcome a big challenge?
I think you answered a lot.
Cécile, are you close to your parents, your mother or your family?
We're in the theme of the family.
Yes, we're in the theme of the family.
You know, on Facebook, it's complicated in your relationships.
Yes.
It's not easy, sincerely.
It's interesting the link with Vedette., but the public aspect of the thing.
The public aspect more than Vedettaria.
They didn't choose the job I have.
It's as if they were also propelled in the public eye at the same time as me in 2009,
and it created friction.
I decided at one point to stop talking about it.
And it's been several years since I've had contact with my brothers, my sister.
It's flat. There's a kind of falsehood that has been hollowed out in recent years,
and I'm not even able to say what it's about. Yes, the lack of time, but I feel like we have nothing to say to each other,
every time we see each other.
There was a lot of jealousy also in the past, and then the flat things that happened,
which makes us feel like we're moving away.
My family is my friends, it's the people around me around me, the people I choose, the people I work with again,
but who are like my second family and I love deeply.
It's with them that I spend the most time.
I'm close to my mother, I see my mother and my brothers and sisters for a few years.
It's harder. my brothers and sisters for a few years, it's more difficult.
It was tough, especially when I arrived in 2009, it was certainly interesting to everyone,
because I had just left Star Academy, everyone had learned to know me,
so everyone wanted to know what my life was like.
And, yes, you have your brother, you are the father of your baby,
and then it was like, OK, we would like to do the seven-day cover with him.
And I felt a huge discomfort for them, and I understand them.
I understand them so much today, with some distance.
But this kind of gap continued to grow, and it saddens me.
But when we, in recent years, we didn't see each other.
The last time we saw each other, it was always like,
be too rushed, we don't talk, we don't know what to say.
So at some point, I try to choose my fights and to do like...
There are so few days in a life and I tell everyone,
it's important to the family. But me, my family, it's my mother, my friends, the people who support me. There are so many days in a life, and I told everyone that family is important,
but my family is my mother, my friends, the people who surround me.
I had to move away a little for my heart.
Do you think that talking about it today, if you hear that, it will get worse. It's not their fault as much as mine.
I don't want anyone to blame me.
It's also the time I have and that I invest in my relationships.
It's still my problem.
My little sister, there has never been friction.
There is no reason why we don't see each other anymore.
And it's common in several families.
Well, yes.
It's hard to...
You have the choice to take a distance.
Some people never manage to do that,
but they never manage to have access to happiness either.
Because the family can pull down.
It's something we can't put aside all the time.
And it's not their fault.
They have their own life. I have mine.
But when we arrive at a point where we have a family reunion,
I was tired of getting out of there burnt out,
as if I had answered questions, as if I had done an interview,
as if I was... I don't know.
We had no common interest field.
It's really weird to feel like that outside of your own family.
I repeat, it's not their fault.
And no, I'm not afraid that they see it because they have nothing to blame themselves for.
I have so much responsibility in the time I've invested in my relationships.
I don't know, I just can't find my place in my own family.
So it's painful.
And I know it was tough for my mother too.
I try to make her understand.
She doesn't always have a good relationship with her sister and her two daughters.
Today they talk, they are close to each other.
Maybe we'll meet again one day, I imagine.
And I know that this time is precious,
the time we can spend with our loved ones, with our world.
And I know that I'm going to be meet again one day. I know that this time is precious, the time we can spend with our loved ones, with our world.
But right now, we're not there.
But you know, in addition, to have spoken to several people who have gone through,
either through Star Academy or through these great contests,
there are a lot of feedback on the family.
On the environment, from the couple.
You know, you get out of there and there's nothing around you that's the same.
I remember getting out of there and realizing that there wasn't even a pair of jeans
that I had before I came in.
Do you understand? It's like in 10 weeks.
It's like a pot.
Nothing, nothing.
Not a single frame of photo on my wall.
It was like a new life.
Everything I have around me is brand new.
I have a new apartment in Montreal.
I got dressed.
I went to get furniture for the furniture because we were going on tour.
And I got used to this new life.
But what's special is that I still have this attachment with my corner and my house.
I didn't want to build a cross on my past.
I built my house on my father's land, which I wanted to buy.
It was my heritage.
Not long ago, I bought my mother's house because I wanted my mother to continue living in that house as long as possible.
I grew up there, I was born there, I still have that attachment, and I deeply love my mother.
I know we'll meet at some point.
But it's an excellent question.
It's just that at some point, I couldn't just pretend all the time.
And by answering the question, and those who ask me news from my family,
to say how I don't like to talk about it, at some point it gets heavy.
It takes courage to say what you say.
Well, I... Honestly, it's not a pride not to be closer than that and not to keep those relationships and those bonds.
It's my brothers, my sister, my family, we only have one.
I'm sure that a lot of people in the room who are watching us. But it happens. They recognize themselves.
It happens.
Yes.
And I have people.
I work with my great-grandparents.
It's like a second family.
They've always been there.
They also gathered me when my father died, Sylvain and Alain,
who are now in full with me in my life.
So I surrounded myself with people I love.
And I have beautiful people around me.
A lot of maturity in what you're saying.
To know how to surround yourself is often the challenge of a life.
Sometimes we realize too late that we were poorly surrounded.
Because it's coming soon.
You don't have a joker anymore, I remind you.
At the level of heroes and companies.
No, we don't see him anymore. He's done. He's used.
You're going to give me three, please.
That's a lot.
Yes, but you only answer one.
Except that you're used to wanting to answer everything.
We'll see if it's...
Maybe.
That's it again.
Well, that one is still simple.
Is sexuality a taboo subject in your family?
Well, I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question.
I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. This one is quite simple. Is sexuality a taboo subject in your family?
Well, what souvenir do you keep from your first time?
Do you prefer seducing or being seduced? I like the one in the center.
Ok, you propose. I propose now. I change all the rules.
It doesn't smell good.
You don't want to?
I can't believe I'm going to say that.
Yes, it will be beautiful. You can sing it if you want.
My first time, I was way too young.
You see, I'm making a card game.
You're making a card game!
It's not like you like these cards!
Okay, so you were way too young.
I had my first girlfriend when I was 12.
It's Sylvie Allen's daughter who works with me.
I've talked about it a lot, but I've never talked about it.
Not about your first time.
No, no, I like David. I like David.
Let's see, who's talking about this anyway?
In a podcast?
It was disgusting.
It was like nothing was happening, like it had to happen.
First of all, I was way too young.
You were 12.
No, I was 13.
13? But you were pre-K, right? 13 years old, you're a too young. You were 12? No, I was 13.
13? You were pre-K, right? 13 is a bit young.
I worked in a bar, Marie.
Oh yeah, it's true. You were 13, almost 30.
It doesn't make sense, but in my head, it didn't go through at all.
It's like... nothing happened.
But the worst part of all part is that...
It was in my parents' bed.
How did you end up in your parents' bed?
Because in my head, it was a bed of adults.
You can't do that with a Batman blanket, you know?
The proof that I was way too young.
But you know, like I said, absolutely nothing happened, no danger. She was pregnant after our first relationship our first relationship. It took a long time before it happened again.
Maybe that's why I decided to change my orientation.
But at that moment, did you start realizing that it was more about men, your sexual attraction?
No.
Your short-term sexual attraction in general?
It took several years, I'd say 16-17 years.
That's when you had the awakening of your profound orientation?
Yes, because at 16-17 years old, you start to have normal sexual relationships.
In your bed? That's it.
No, no, but you know...
When you do it, but you think of your brother
so that it ends...
No, no!
That's not true! And that's it!
Thank you everyone.
We're going to make Ms. Mère forget the last 5 minutes. Yes, exactly. We missed the tape, the camera, the tape, the camera, the camera...
No, no, I'm making faces with that, but it was like...
16 years, for real, that's the moment and I realized that it wasn't that anymore.
But once again, it took time before I started to live it.
I mean, from 16 to 21, I didn't have a relationship that made me feel something.
It's's special.
When you felt something, what was the result?
When it changed you?
It was a confirmation.
Simply, OK, that's it, feeling something,
and tripping, and vibrating, and an orgasm.
Feeling your body, and That's when I realized that it was all these years, and not all of them.
It doesn't take anything away from the people I was with.
At that moment, I was in love with these people.
You were honest.
Yes, absolutely.
What you're saying is fundamental, you know, because there are some, unfortunately,
who still have prejudices against sexual orientation, and there are some who know it,
who are not like the right kind of people, but for the external looks,
it's something that will remain hidden.
But when I hear what you say, it's terrible to think about it.
That is to say, OK, that's where I am right now.
Because that's the quest of life.
To always be better.
That's why sometimes we're disappointed because we feel like we're going back.
But the idea is to move forward and improve your well-being.
And it's never perfect, you know. It can never be.
But it remains that you understood that sexually, the person who attracted you was on your ex, it was a man.
That's right. But I want to repeat it, I've always been honest with everyone I've been with before.
At that time, that's what I lived without knowing anything I had been with before.
At that time, that was how I lived without knowing anything else.
But at the same time, you have to allow it, because you have to know something to know that it's not what you think.
Yes, but that's where I say that...
And that's why you were frank, you've always been frank.
Yes, and it was when I arrived in Montreal, I saw that it wasn't like that.
The first time I met a guy, I was like,
«Oh, wait a minute, I'm going to have a beer with him.
He's doing something to me. »
I immediately made the move, because for me it wasn't...
I've never been dishonest towards anyone.
That's it. You've always been dishonest towards anyone. That's the point. You've always been honest.
I was honest towards myself for a long time.
I tried to convince myself that it must be like that.
It must be like that. That's how it goes.
Everyone lives it like that.
It was when I lived my first time with another guy that I understood that it wasn't that.
I was just trying to make myself believe that everything was fine, that everything was going well. But at that moment, I realized that the girls I had been with had been friends for me.
They were something big and beautiful. They were people I respected enormously.
And even today, I still have contact with my first blonde of the time.
We were making music in bars. We were making music with me. We were called the duo Les Ados.
It was our name duo Les Ados.
In the bars.
It was our name.
It's beautiful.
But tell me, what would you like to say to someone who is looking at us right now
and who is hesitating to talk about it or even live his desire to live it?
Because it's not with the right person.
It's hard because I've lived it and I know that if I hadn't left my home, I probably
would never have done it. And I would probably not be here today to be able to talk about it.
It's so hard. You were talking about the look in others' eyes. It's part of everything. Sometimes we like to put ourselves in a shell and live inside it,
and not talk about it, but to be hurt. There's no one who's done the same thing in life.
And, you know, I'm not there to say, like, oh, you should do this or that. That's not it at all.
But to talk about myself, how I lived it, and how it changed.
I tell myself that at some point, someone will go and look for what is needed in there.
And then, everything in its own time.
Unfortunately, some will never do it.
But is it worth it compared to the looks of others?
Is it that once you announced it, you said it, you didn't feel that pressure when you said it?
At one point, I felt like a shell that was beneficial to my life.
It wasn't even linked to my sexual orientation.
It was linked to everything else. It was linked to the evilness we can live with.
We were talking about comments on your podcast, Marie, in the lodges.
You are such a beautiful, caring community.
The community around you, no matter what people say, no matter what they will say in your podcast,
there are no comments, no hate comments, people who are just going to be mean. It's different.
You look at an article from the Sejour,
and you read the comments below.
It has no sense.
Maxime Landry, such and such.
It's the title of the Sejour.
I'm going to read the comments.
We feel like we're going to be...
Who is he?
What is this? This kind of wickedness. I apologize.
They'll tell you that you're sacred.
Yes, that's it. I talked about the stay, but it has nothing to do with the stay.
It's just another media.
But it's true that in the podcast, we don't manage that.
But bravo to the community that follows you and to the people who listen.
And maybe some of them want to say, I don hey, I'm not really interested in what you're doing.
But they change posts. I don't know what to say. But it really touched me.
So much.
It really touched me at the beginning of my career that I was like, hey, I'm not going to die from this.
I mean, just reading the comments of the world.
I have the impression that I have become a little heartless at some point.
Just like, hey, I don't care what you're going to tell me, it doesn't matter anymore.
But did you feel free when you spoke publicly about your sexual orientation?
Were you completely free. It hasn't changed.
Sincerely, because all those around me who are dear to my heart,
my friends, my family, my relatives, I wasn't someone else when I was with them.
But when you arrived on stage with the audience?
With the audience, I never lied or said anything.
And no one ever came to a show and said...
And even those who have been following me for the longest time knew it.
Because my son, at the time, he came on stage, he came with me to sign autographs,
and people knew him. They knew he was my son.
And I never pretended that he was someone working with me. I didn't feel like I needed to do it.
It happened like that. You answered a question.
I just kept on living. It was a...
I would like to answer that.
It's like my Joker card, that phone that rings.
Do you want to know who it is?
You can tell me, I'm 1369.
It's an old movie line.
No, but that's it.
I...
It hasn't changed much.
Except for the fact that there are people who open up to me
and tell me that it helped them.
So, for that, I regret not having done it, but I didn't feel lighter than the weight I had on my shoulders.
That doesn't matter.
Earlier, you said that you don't like the expression, why?
Well, because we should just not have to do it.
If you come to introduce yourself to me, you won't going to say, Here's my husband, I'm heterosexual.
No, but it's true.
So in my head, I don't need to tell you,
Here's my husband, I'm homosexual.
The person I share my life with.
I agree with you.
I think that in 2025, we're still excited about that.
We say, he just came to do his comic book.
He's going to do it. I think he's like that.
We don't have to...
And I knew it.
Oh yeah. Hey, we can do it. You too. You know it's like that. We don't have to... Pidé, I knew it.
Oh yeah.
Hey, we can follow.
You too. You knew it.
I knew it too.
You knew it before. You won.
Thank you for talking about it.
Much faster than everyone else.
Last question, the optorhizo question.
It's always that question that's sweet, that makes you land on the plane.
That makes you see clearly.
That makes you see clearly, exactly, my God.
Okay, but in the end, she wasn't that soft.
No, you'll understand. She's emotional.
It's not that she's not soft, she's emotional.
Because you're my friend, I allowed myself to go further than usual.
Okay.
You see?
If you look at it, because listen, when I wrote it in the background,
it's been maybe two weeks since I wrote your game.
You see, and I think I was struggling when I wrote the question.
So I'm asking you.
If you...
Yeah, I'm better.
If you look back at your life and we stop on August 28, 2003,
what would you say to young Maxime?
What would you say to young Maxime?
To hang on. I don't want to do the same, to keep up, because there are lots of good things that will happen.
And I will say it very, very, very humbly, but I would say you have lots of good things to bring to the world too. I'm going to do a mission to do the most good around me.
I'm going to do it as much as I can.
I'm going to say, just for what you have to bring.
Everyone here has something to bring in life.
You may not know it, but you but you will say a sentence to someone and it will save their life.
And that person may never say it.
Maybe she will say it in ten years.
Do you remember, we were together one night, you told me to do it.
And it's because of you that I made a move in my life.
It's because of you that I left my chum, my violent, violent blonde.
And it's because of you that I decided to choose, no matter the theme, we all have something to bring to life.
We all deserve our place on Earth. So I would say that. I would say just to stay good. To hang on.
Oh my God. You know what? I don really like to go back there. I'm so happy
to...
You've made a lot of progress since August 28, 2003.
It's hard to say. It makes me who I am today. Because I'd like to be someone else, but
still have my father. That's what's hard about these awareness-seeking.
It's for sure that it changed the person I am now.
I wouldn't have dropped out of school if my father hadn't taken his life.
I dropped out of school because he took his life.
I became a Factor because he took his life.
I went to Montreal because I did my auditions, I sang, I made an homage,
I won the Star Academy because I... my auditions, I sang, I made an homage, I won Star Academy because I...
All of that...
But today, I'd rather be someone else than still be there.
So it's still hard to choose my life for his.
I'd like it to be there, I'd like him to see what I do,
I'd like him to sit there, to see what I do, to sit at the bar with his eyes shining because he's proud and witty because he's hot.
Sitting in a room, in a show I produced, with 800 people, that's my production, that's my world.
I would like to see him after and say, OK, put that on, and he'll tell me, it was better yesterday. I would like that, him after and say, you know, put that in the evening, and he tells me, it was better yesterday.
I would like that.
But it won't happen.
Do you want to make us a little song before we finish?
Do you want to?
Do you want to?
There is still a notion of consent.
With pleasure, everything is fine.
It's touching.
I also have bitter eyes my eyes for this moment.
But not for the alcohol. Thank you.
I'm going to make a song that...
Do you see what's written there?
Yes.
Ah, yes, I see.
Well, you're right.
I mean, it wouldn't be possible.
Because it's a new song, and it's Alexandre Poulin who writes extraordinary stories.
And, you know, when I say I'm jealous sometimes of the songs that are offered to me.
I felt the wind of winter, the order of the leather of my coat.
I held my father's hand, the one that only exists in photos. J'ai tenu la main de mon père, lui qui n'existe plus qu'en photo
J'ai senti l'odeur du pain frais danser dans les ruelles
J'ai vu les étoiles de si près qu'elles faisaient éteindre le ciel
J'ai entendu des enfants qui jouaient à être grand I heard children playing to be big I saw big become small
Just by dancing in the rain
Then the light is lit and I blow my candles
Time flows like a comet and takes me with it Je m'évaugis, t'enfiles comme une comète Et m'emmène avec lui
Alors je tisse des bouts de vie Et je colore le silence
Malgré tout ce qu'on en dit
Crois-tu que le bonheur fait sa chance?
I heard the laughter of those who have lived too much I lived like we live in wine, they didn't take it anymore
I saw friends crying, the unknown smiling at me
I felt my heart being wrapped so I can pray for it
Then the light ignites and I blow my candles
Time flows like a comet and takes me with it
And I say, this is the end of life et m'emmène avec lui et je dis ce n'est pas de vie
et je colle en les silences
malgré tout ce qu'on en dit
crois-tu que le bonheur fait sa chance
j'ai douté par moment
puis j'ai cru en la vie
J'ai profité du présent Pour devenir qui je suis
J'ai pris, j'ai donné J'ai aimé pour de bon
Ce soir je cours dans la lune Qui mène à la maison I run in the river that leads to the house
Then the light turns on and I blow the candles
You run like a comet and take me with you
And I say the words of life and I stick the silence
I live my life and I stick to silence Despite everything we say
I believe that happiness is lucky
Wonderful!
It's wonderful!
It's Alexandre Poulin who wrote the lyrics.
It's a bit of a wrap-up of what we've been through.
It was the most beautiful conclusion we could have made.
Huh? It's magnificent. Thank you for opening your game.
Special edition because everything in music at the same time.
With texts that came to solidify your words.
Hey, thank you and Thank you for listening.
It's so precious to be able to share moments of your life.
Thank you Marie and to all your beautiful gang.
It's a great pleasure to have you here.
For me too.
Thank you all for being here.
We just had a wonderful time.
Thank you my friend.
I've never cried so much in an open your game.
I had a hard time.
There was a sentence like...
I run into the alley that leads to the house.
I was like, maybe I should take a little break.
And go reconnect myself.
Call me, we're going to eat a Zomore together.
Call me.
We're going to do something.
Thank you everyone, be careful.
He made us cry.
For real, it doesn't make sense.
But it's really extraordinary.
Thank you Marie, it was a great moment.
It's really an extraordinary moment.
Thank you for being there.
Thank you very much.
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