Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #114 Kim Rusk | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Kim est une femme entière, intense, généreuse, brillante et amoureuse de la vie. Dans cet épisode d’Ouvre ton jeu, elle s’ouvre, entre autres, sur la maternité, elle parle de sa mère, de son père et aussi de l’épouse de son père. Elle rend un hommage touchant au rôle que sa belle-mère a joué tout au long de sa vie. Elle aborde aussi les changements que la quarantaine apportent.Un Ouvre ton jeu particulièrement touchant et sensible.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:17:04 - Cartes vertes00:44:15 - Cartes jaunes01:14:24 - Cartes rouges01:33:10 - Cartes Eros01:44:35 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.

Hello everyone, welcome to Ouvre ton Jeu, the podcast. It's always a pleasure to meet you. And now I want to tell you a little story. Because a while ago, I was at the Saint-Gabriel monastery on the terrace for a friend's party. And suddenly, someone came up to me, her name was Geneviève. She said hi, she said what a coincidence to meet you. And she had a bag, she opened her bag, she opened the bag and she had the two games, the red and the green, because she said it was a colleague's birthday, and that's what we do when we get together. We play to open your game, and tonight we make it for her.

And she said, are you waiting to come and ask a question like you're doing now? Well, I said, certainly. And then, they taught me something, the girls. Well, there weren't just the girls, but there were two girls who spoke to me. So, they take the red game, the green and yellow questions, there are dating questions, there are couple questions, and then there are two questions per card, a couple question and a dating question. And dating questions, to know more, to know who he is, who she is, and to know more details about his life, but without necessarily entering into the intimacy of the person. And they told me, but for colleagues at work, these questions are great. So I wanted to propose it to you because, indeed, I played with the one who was celebrating, her name was Josiane, and I played with her with the questions for the dating, but it turned out to be extraordinary.

So if you have the Jurault, don't hesitate to do it that way. It changes the game, it's new questions, very interesting. And I wish Josiane a happy holidays. It's fun to meet people who have... It's not the first time that it happens to me, but the first time that they have both games and who are going to do that directly in a restaurant. And I want to read you two comments that we received. Marie-Josée writes to us about Ariane Moffat. She says, I always thought this woman would be simple, true, unique, listening to the lyrics of her songs. What a beautiful date with the authentic human.

Mom, wow! I'm delighted. Thank you, Marc-Laude. Thank you both for the openness, honesty. As they say, dare to talk about real things.. Thank you very much Marie-Josée. Claire comments on the episode of Josée La Vigueur. What an interesting interview with Josée. I appreciated the discussion on the body we dream of and our reality. It's been several times that you have addressed the subject and I deduce that it is important to love your body, because it is this body that was given to us by nature to accompany us throughout our lives. I notice that the more people get used with it, the more beautiful they are. Thank you for these essential reflections.

Indeed, yes, we often talk about the body, because there are questions, for example, when I look in the mirror, what I see, it brings us to, or what is your greatest complex? It often brings us to talk about the body. And as we inhabit it all our lives, I think it's normal that at some point in our lives, sometimes, there are things that are harder to accept, but we have to end up making peace with our body. Because, as Claire tells us, it's him who allows us to move, it's him who allows us to exist, this body.

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at online, Jonathan Fréchette at digital creation, Maëlle Lodvin à la captation et Jérémie Boucher aux réseaux sociaux. Aujourd'hui, c'est une invitée que j'ai connue pratiquement dès mes débuts en télé. Je la connaissais de la télé, mais je ne la connaissais pas personnellement. J'ai travaillé avec elle à Deux Filles le matin, parce qu'une année, nous étions quatre filles à Deux Filles le matin. Et c'était une des quatre of the four was Kim Rosk. So I'm very happy to have her. Kim is a spontaneous girl, who is also impulsive, who follows her instinct. She's someone who has a public, she loves the world. And to see her on TV, on the radio, on social media, I love to follow her, I love to hear her, I love to listen to her.

It's been a long time since I've seen her. I can't wait to know how she's doing. And I also know that you love her a lot. I can't wait to hear from her. I think we'll learn from her about life, about her life, about accompanying a parent. There's a lot to learn from her. So I leave all the space to my friend Kim Rosk. I'm very much in denial. I don't dare to go there because I think that when it's going to be like this, I won't be able to be there. So I don't learn. We are once again in the fashion of solution. But one day, we won't have a wall. The wall will come.

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It's a game for which I have a great great respect. I think it's like a sun somewhere in the artistic universe of Quebec. We met his father, Patrick Zabé. I remember Aïgadou, who has always been a part of my life. When Kim arrived in Love Story, I had the impression of knowing her because she was Patrick's daughter. And finally, when

I met her, I forgot her father because she takes up all the space when she's there. She's whole. Welcome Kimon. Oh, Marc-Laurel, thank you. It's true, you're whole, you're intense. Listen, we've known each other for a long time. Yeah. It's been 15 years, 15 years. We work together, indeed. We found ourselves a little through this project, which was Two Girls in the Morning, because we were the two little rebels, I think, of this game. Yes, yes.

Until the lead surprised us. We were four girls in the morning, we'll remember that. It was four girls in the morning. But in short, a whole experience, but I think that the most positive thing in this control was you. It's a meeting. But it's true that we clicked. Yes, really. I think it's true. Do you say the rebel side where we question the business?

Yes. We challenge things. We dare to say things, in fact. Which sometimes can be unpleasant in open environments where everything is directed, orchestrated, planned. You don't have to bother too much. We arrived with our boots on. But what I saw of you, I learned from you. Because being like that, it's easy to get stuck in the beginning of your career. But when I saw you being a woman who holds her values, convictions and who keeps them to herself. I had a lot of admiration and it even inspired me to continue to be like that and not to be crushed, in fact, to be crushed.

Yes, because, you know, to be crushed is that we are not ourselves anymore. You know, we hold on. You know, the value we have is to know ourselves and to be able to be ourselves everywhere. Exactly. Sometimes there are nuances, but we are always the same person. But I find that when we are forced to camouflage things, and at the same time we are asked to be authentic, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. No, and that's what you just said, we are authentic. I think that's why we're joining together like this.

And we can't be fake. It doesn't fit. If I'm asked to embark on a project that doesn't suit me, or if I'm asked to change or to respond to new requests to dye my hair or dress the way I do, or to be careful with how I speak, you're as good at engaging someone else because it's going to sound wrong. And me, anyway, that's not what I want to have as an image. I am who I am and it's too much pressure to play a role. I'm not an actress, although I might want to one day, but it will be in a film frame, not in a play frame. It's funny that you said that because when I was preparing the game, I was like, you've never played in anything.

Did you play in something? I did a lot of theater when I was like, you've never played in anything. Did you play in something? I did a lot of theater when I was younger. The 8 wives of Robert Thomas, I did The Hero of My Childhood. I did some of them. The last project, I did capsules on the TDAH, about 40 capsules. Yes, where you played. You played my own role. But it was le fun.

Et j'ai fait un projet, un gros projet d'une série web qui s'appelait Hors d'onde. Et c'était avec un casting d'acteurs, hallucinant Anne-Elisabeth Bossé, entre autres. Il y avait Mac Labrèche qui faisait des caméos. Il y a eu plein people, and I was like the main character. I was a slightly crazy TV producer, with people who worked for me. And listen, it was so stressful because I had never done it that way, whether it was a web series or a TV series, at the very least. But without the same thing, finally. Without the same thing when you shoot. There are less cash, I guess. Less budget too. But still, I was...

Daniel Thomas was there because I was looking for the actors and I honor them all. But all the great actors. And it's beautiful that he's in there. And what did that do to you? Did you get caught in the corner? I loved it. I got the dog. Because I often say yes to projects that come out of my comfort zone.

My greatest happiness in life is when I have the call. When you want to be cast. And often, when I do auditions, I touch wood. I have them. It's never happened that I haven't had them. So I would tell you that when I have the call, I'm in a good mood. I like that, I'm like, I'm afraid of serotonin, dopamine, whatever. But then, after that, I hang up, it's been 24 hours, I go, but what? Why did I accept that? You're a jerk. I did the first part of Petter McLaren in a comedy show, I've never done comedy in my life, I've done 40 shows across Quebec.

I wanted to die every night, and this series that I did, when I saw the casting, and also the lyrics to learn. I had a D.A.H., I have a short-term memory, it was horrible. But I did it, I was happy to have done it, and I loved the experience. And now I think that with time, and where I am in my life, I think that one day, if I had a project, I wouldn't go on. Hey, but I'm going to go see that, I haven't seen it. I want to see you play. Well, listen... I was young, I was starting out in the loft. Ah, ok! It was a few years ago.

So, let's say you're called to play a role on a staff, for example. There are a lot of people who go to some of those. You say, yes, you do that. Yes, yes. I would let it. I would let it. Oh wow! I just like it. I like to play. Because it's a completely different thing to play. I'm used to being animated. We talk, we're in fashion,

we're in representation, whereas playing is very soft. It's the opposite. It's really, it's very soft. You put your personality aside. You become your character. There's a pause,'s very, you can't speak loudly. So you put your personality aside. If you become your character, there's like a pause too, I find, in yourself. 100%. Yeah.

So we wish to play. Well yes. And all the roles I had, it was always me, the leading women, the mother of the family. You know, I was doing Carabosse in the heroes of my childhood, in which it was the kind of witch, sexy, you know, I was young, I was in the third year of elementary school,

I was asked to play the sex and the drug. It was like, it seemed like I was predestined to be wild. You understand? I was in the third year, I didn't even know what it was. It was like characters who fell into vices, but who finally got out of it. But I had the five and the drug. You know, poor little me. Poor parents. They must be proud of you. They're going to see the play.

I'm going to take off my bracelet because it's getting old. Because it's not going to be... Excuse me. It's funny because I find it funny that you feel my Ima. Everyone tells me that. I had never noticed before. Today you talk to me and it looks like like I'm a mix of the two. Yeah, but it's true. There are a lot of people. It's funny because we were out with the same guy, so clearly he misses that kind of pattern. But a lot of people. When I arrived in Montreal and I lived on the plateau, he also told me, it happened frequently, that my mom and people were wrong, that I was going to have a glass of 5 to 7. Yeah, I was told that.

Oh, well... It's fine, it's good, it's so pure. Pure, it's much purer than me. Are you ready to open your game? I'm so excited to be here, you didn't help me. Ah, that's fun. Green level is a generic question. The yellow level is starting to be more specific.

The level, wait exactly the same color. So the red level has become the fuchsia level. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. You have new colors, it's a bit washed out. So your red, fuchsia level is personal questions. We have the question for the Patreon, it's the Spaceman question. The Eros is still pink, you see?

The pink level, Eros is accompanied. The question, and Torizo is always the last question, it's a very sweet question that ends well this encounter. And your Jokers, when you find that the sub-questions go too far, you don't want to answer anymore, you put it on the table and I move on to another. So you look at the green questions on the table and you're going to give me five. You're going to choose one that you have to answer and I'm going to choose one. And five. There you go. You have five now. So now it's the level of the spell.

The level of the spell. Yes, just for you. How do you react to authority? Oh my God, you have them. Okay, it was already chosen, those questions. It's not a coincidence, the questions. I mean, sometimes I don't know the answers at all, but depending on the person. It's funny, it's like an analysis that you do. I like that. You like that? What title would you give to the chapter of your current life?

What meaning do you give to the chapter of your current life? What meaning would you give to the word family? Wow. When I look in the mirror, I see. At what point did you feel that you were making the difference? All excellent questions. I really like that here. So when I look in the mirror, I see. And when I look in the mirror, I look... And when I look in the mirror, I see... The mirror, I see because currently, there's something going on that I've never lived before. What sense does it give to the family, obviously. And I would take the difference.

But it's because you chose one, and I chose one. Oh, excuse me, I was going with you. But go ahead, go ahead, but you want to answer the others, but start with one. Well, it won't be my first one. I'll change your game, I'll apologize, I'll take... When did you feel you were doing the same? Well, in fact, it's through my work, which for me is a passion.

It's incredible because... You know, we do radio, you did radio for years, you do shows, podcasts. People write to you, they talk to you. We love what we do, we are privileged because it's not work. There are people who work the morning, they get up, they go to work. It's not necessarily what they would have liked to do. In your case, in my case, I think that's what we set as the years, but mainly since the last six months, it's with a new show that I was animating, because I don't animate anymore now, on the radio called Les Démons du Midi. It's incredible because we dared to go to the topics that were much more taboo, the topics that, in the inundated bit of sexuality, but we were going on everything. On the part of consumption, on infidelity, on... I don't like my children, I would never tell them to be parents.

Questions. And it's incredible how people reacted to this show. It's incredible how when the show was over, I often said to myself, Christ, the world is not going well. It makes me sad. I was coming out at the same time emptied of sadness, emotions, at the same time filled with feeling that we were making a difference, because people were talking about it and they were telling us, it's the first time I dare to say that. So I really understood that our work, as much as mine, that I am the one who works in this confit, who do the same job as us, sometimes can make a huge difference.

But it frees up the voice, it opens up on something, and to feel that we are not alone, it changes everything. Yes, and that we are not, I do not judge. Me, in life, I can judge my own life, but when they question your life path, your choices, your personality, your life, I don't judge. On the contrary, I will question you to understand why. Because I think that all your causes are made in life. I realized them over time. So I pay a lot of attention to the, and I think it's stressful. So I think people are getting used to it, and I also get used to it a lot. Through podcasts, through radio.

And there are people who can get used to it, but I always tell myself, if it helps one or two, three people in life, listen to me, I've already done it. And I've noticed it over the last few years. Because they didn't feel judged. But they don't feel judged. And I can be very direct too. Sometimes it happened to me not to put someone in their place on the radio, but on the contrary to invite them to make different decisions.

I dared to challenge a lot on the radio some of our listeners and auditors who called to deliver their testimonies, but who also maybe needed to hear someone tell them not what they wanted to hear. So I'm telling you, it's because I receive testimonies endlessly since this show. We learned they didn't come back. It's crazy. And letters, letters of sadness. And why do you think it doesn't come back?

Ah, well, it's financial issues. It's financial issues because it helps the world. You understand? Because we remove all these issues. It's like an issue that we drive together. The girl in the morning, the boy in the afternoon, I was saying, that was the goal. It was completely that. It was not judgment, not taboo, we talk about everything, we approach it from all angles. There are people who come to talk about it, specialists.

But after that, we have all the testimonies, we see how people understand each other better. They come to look for answers sometimes, or things that they didn't understand all of a sudden. They understand others better too. And it's a shame because this kind of mission, there won't be any more. I think she could have continued in other circumstances, let's say, salary. But at one point, it comes back to what I told you at the beginning, you have to stand up. Yes. You understand?

I stand up. I stand up in life, I know my value, and I understand. And I'm also an businesswoman who understands. So we're going in the right direction. Will it come back one day? It's not aimed at me, that start. It's a decision of the company to have to make cuts. And I understand. And I will continue to work. There are not 44 companies in the world, on the radio on TV too. So there will be something else. I'm not worried.

But it was a show, Les Démons, that I loved to animate with Joannie, who she continues to do a great job on radio. But I felt that this show needed this kind of talk. And indeed, there are less and less. But podcasts bring that, because in commercial radio, we don't dare too much. There are commandos, you have to be careful. Yes, and you don't know who's going to call either. Sometimes the lines are open. Yes, exactly.

You have to filter them, but sometimes it can... But it remains... Yes, podcasts are a lot in that. Yes, because people choose to listen to podcasts. At the radio, you know, you're the dentist, you go to the psychologist. But you still see, you saw that you could make the difference. 100%. But you know, I have the open lines. I love it. There was a lot of that before. There are still more, but I love open lines too.

I love open lines. And I realize also with time that I love the human. You know, I... In fact, I think that in my twenties, I was more focused on my life because it was going so fast. The love, after that, the career. I've always loved people.

I've always been very busy. My friends were worth it. I've always been there, very present for my parents too, in very precise situations in their lives. But as I'm getting older, I feel like I'm't turn to others. What, you know, I question more, I go further, I dig further,

I dare to go further into what people live, as much as my loved ones. That's not what you're capable of taking. Yes, a lot. Yes, and I'm fascinated by myself, and I, you know, at the same time, in the frame where we are, currently, in the era where we are, which is extremely difficult, while it's urgent, I think it's important to turn to our heart. So I like to scratch it, I like to understand it.

And maybe it's a parallel project, you know, there's nothing that prevents me from doing it. And that, has it opened a door to do the demons? Yes. Did you touch something, did you taste something that you wanted to have in your life. Well, the proximity of people, in fact, that's it. You know, we were doing a film, you said, we were in it, but we were a lot in the teams. There were specialists and all that. There, it was, I let people talk.

You know, it's good to do two hours of podcast with Marc-Claude Barrette. We have the impression that we are on the psy. It would be fun if everyone had access to this two hours with you, do you understand? I feel like we're on the side of the I listen and I'm able to throw you out. And sometimes you'll take a door and you'll see it closed. I'll maybe push a little bit and you'll maybe... You know, there are times when I feel that there are people who have freed things. So I really liked that project. You're beautiful, Tantan. We'll see you in something that will be.

And it takes some. It takes some projects like that. So I'm going to choose the question that you would have also wanted to answer. Hey, I'm sorry, I completely fucked up your game. You don't apologize a lot, but there are some who want to answer everything, it depends. And there are some who are more reticent. When I look at myself in the mirror, I see. I see myself aging. You're going to tell me that's the easy answer, but it's not aging physically.

It's aging, it's like if I was there, I would make a kind of metaphor, but you know, it's like a tree. I feel like my wood is solidifying. I'm not talking about foliage. I really like the roots, the trunk. I'm more solid, I know more than I want. I look in the mirror and I'm much less in question, I'm much more in the moment. I take it, hey, what will happen, will happen. And I like that. I can't say that I was 40 last year, now I'm 41. And I was looking forward to being 40. I was looking forward to falling into that decade, because I think that women are 40 and they're in old age. It's crazy.

But hey, I fell so high. From 40, I'm 39, one of the most beautiful years of my life, 40. For different reasons, it was more difficult for me personally. I was not on my ex. I was looking for my energy, I was looking for my vitality. And now I've found it again for a year. It's like I understood what's not good for me, what's good for me, what's good for me. What's good for me to name things more? I've always named them, but sometimes I didn't necessarily name them for myself. Here, here I name them. And I accept to name what I need to name and keep what I need to keep. You have courage. You learn courage. Yeah, that's it. And I love my mom. I love my cool mom. I'm a cool mom.

And in the frame too, but I love looking in the mirror with my daughter. It's the image that I prefer. Sometimes I do my hair in the morning, and we brush our teeth, and I brush my teeth at the top of her head. I was amazed, I thanked her, gratitude x 1000. I would like it to stop, because I don't want it to stop at that moment. They have to evolve too, and she has to live her life too, but oh my God, it's crazy. I really like this role, It's a gift from heaven. But the quarantine is what made you study events, but is it the main event?

To have 40 years and say what I do for the rest of my life and I test what I don't want anymore? Yes, that's what I have, 100%. And I realize that, you know, I live it, but my entourage, who is practically the same age as me, the same age as me, is all that. And we're like, it's not happening at the same time. Some are a little later, others a little earlier. But so the speeches, our discussions are revolving around that for maybe three or four years now. Because there is one... I don't know, it's not a quarantine crisis, but I think you're expressing it. It's a period of transition.

Yes. Okay, I have my daughter, I have my daughter in the thirties, I have a career, I set myself up. What's next? Do you know what? The parents age. Some parents die, unfortunately, the family that... But what do I do for the rest of my life? I'm a lot in there. I'm a into it. I realize that there are things that I don't want to put energy into, waste time, difficulties, discussions, that I'm at the bottom of it. There's a sentence I wrote when I went to get me out of here. Because I was struggling to get out of here. Not for the Serpents, not for everything else. I was struggling because I was separating from my daughter for the first time in a long time, without telling her. I was already on a trip. We were getting along.

You didn't have any contact. No, and it wasn't because I was able to leave, but it was how she would react. That's what I thought. The guilt. Anyway, I wrote a book every day. Durant, because you were there three days before. I wrote, I wrote, it emptied my head. And I was talking about myself through all that. And I said to myself, you know, it's like I've always been a butterfly. I've always flown, deployed my wings.

Towards, you know, now I want to become a chanel again. I want it to be... To be invited to be like a chanel. I want it to be... To be on the ground. To be slowly on the ground. It's like a chrysalid inversion. It's like a different metamorphosis period. I had fun in life.

I lived a lot of beautiful things. I think you chose to have fun in life? Yes, but it's like I want nature, I want silence, I want... I want it to be simple. I don't want to break up. I don't want to get in trouble. Did you get in trouble a lot? Well, anyway, I was... You know, back then, there was a card, it's how to react to the authority. I was in opposition, I had a group of opposition with my major TDAH.

I was always in opposition, you know. And my mom too, she was in opposition. I was a great defender, you know. I defend, always defending. My father didn't even tell me, put all your stuff, stop getting involved in other people's stuff, manage yourself, manage your mess. And with time, because it was very involved in managing others, you know, managing yourself, but then it looked like I needed to help people, and sometimes to go to class, you know,

and the avocados, and not for me, for other people. I took the files, I liked that. When you felt useful. Yes, yes, a lot, but I liked that. It's like if... Yes, it's true that you wouldn't have been a lawyer. I would have loved to be a lawyer. I think I would have been good. So all the time, in protection, you know, and sometimes in a understanding that others don't have. And in a... But when you're not involved in protection, you know, and sometimes in a understanding that others don't have.

And then in a, but when you're not involved in the right, it's easier than when you're emotionally involved. That said, that's it. So with the authority, it's always been more difficult with... But listen, I don't want to fight anymore, actually. You want to drop your boxing gloves there. Hey, that's exactly what I said. I drop my gloves. I... It's enough.

I've had enough. If there's a situation that happens... Were you afraid of falling into exhaustion from that? Did it get you used to it? It got me used to it. Yes, because you always end up... Even if you're not 100% involved in a situation where you just help, you always end up getting a punch, a left, a right.

And over time, it left scars that don't belong to me. It doesn't belong to me. It's like I was taking a lot of pain from others, the life of others. It's still in the human being that I dig, you know, to try to understand. Sometimes, I'll find a solution. You avoid me face to face. Yeah, we'll fix the problem. It's going to be fine. I'll help you, I'll support you, but sometimes the support takes up all the space,

because the other person sees that you're a captain. There are no problems in life, there are only solutions. Because when you're a leader, a captain, a leader like yourself, well, you're on the trail, you know? You're on the way. Yeah, so it's a little exhausting. Because, you know, the question I always ask people who are leaders, who takes care of you? That's it. Do you let others take care of you too?

Yes, more and more. It's more difficult. I don't like people, I don't like to give something to people. I hate that feeling. I don't like to wait for people. You know, imagine, you tell me, hey, I'm going to do something for you. Because you need it. Cool. Now I'm learning to accept that. But if it takes six months for you to do it or help me, forget it. You're going to have to do it. Oh my God.

And now I know that sometimes it can create discomfort, so I feel bad because the person was already... So I accept help, but much more than I accepted it. But that's it. I'm still a little suspicious. I don't want people to think... I'm afraid people think I owe them something in return. I don't know... And you, who would do something for others, do they owe you something in return?

Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. But I go to restaurants, I want to make sure everyone is okay. I'm taking charge. You know, it's really in my personality. I think I've had a lot of transfers in my childhood. Mother, daughter, daughter, mother. I quickly became a mother when I was a teenager. You know what I mean? So, over time, I think that's stayed in me. And I want to make sure that everyone around me is doing well, that everyone is okay.

And my limit, my vase, before I feel very raw. You take it. Oh yes, yes, yes. Sometimes I don't even realize it. But when you go very raw, it's longer to go up too. That's what I realize. So it's all beautiful achievements that time and the fact of coming brings. So when I watch videos or things when I was younger, and that's what you described to me at the beginning, a very intense and energetic sun,

it's me, 100%. But I have the impression that I'm less in that light, in that energy, very high. But for the outside world that sees you, you don't need that intensity to see that? Maybe, you're right. You understand, you don't need to have the retrograde to the maximum. You know, naturally, you shine already, you understand? Because you're intense. Yes, I understand. It's in my gesture, my way of speaking, my look too. But in your basic personality...

100% is already brilliant. I come from a parent who expressed himself, who called, who sang, who danced, I come from an artist's world. So, it's sure that... But at the same time, my brother comes from that world too, and he's more reserved.

So, it's really in me. I was destined for that. I think I'm maybe 35, 40, I don't really remember exactly what age I am, but I had the impression that I moved around a lot, that I had to adapt all the time, but one day I changed, and my air roots became terrestrial roots. And it seems like it's resting. Because you're resting on the ground, you're not always in the process of walking, of... You know, aerial roots are adaptation. I understand so much. Change of school, change of house, change of network. But you're putting yourself down, you say it, and it feels good.

You know, I bought a house back then with my daughter's father. We separated and all that. I kept the house. You know, I do gardening. It's what I like to do the most in life. Did you know that before? No. Well, before having a land, no. You know, it's been six years and I have a huge... I like that. I go to the nursery. I have fun. I don't want to buy myself a laundry in life, I want to buy plants.

I'm very... you understand, it doesn't matter. I buy myself tools, I buy myself things. I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I think it was going fast. My career was going fast. How old were you when you were at Love Story? 22 years old. And it started the next day. I left the club on Sunday, I started making TV. And it never stopped. And the radio never stopped.

I'm lucky, I'm happy, I'm grateful. It's a beautiful career. It's what I wanted to do. I was very young. I played at it. Really. But could there be anything else? Yes. And not because I have a contract end. There's a follow-up. But it can be added. I'll be there as long as people want me to be there, but I choose my stuff better. You know, like I'm going to take projects that look like me. And radio, it's always looked like me because we're behind a microphone. And you're spontaneous. You know, you're able to take something on the fly, and it's going to work. You have to be free to do radio. 100%. Because you have to be free to do the radio. 100% You have to be free, spontaneous,

as they say, without judgment. You take what you have and you do it. Everything can happen, you're live all the time. I have a good sidekick. I don't like being the captain of a radio show. I'm not interested in the timing. All that, all the management. In fact, you're never focused.

It's funny because when people called us, Joannie and me, Joanie was the captain, and they asked me if it was me, I said no. I never wanted to be the captain of a show on the radio. I'm a sidekick. I'm the co-animator. When people call, I listen to them 100%. She, at one point, had to leave because she had to make signals. I see her not listening anymore, but I'm there. I'm holding on. Sometimes we fight, and it's my fault. We fight the timing, it was my fault. No, no, I have another question. I have another question. It's really a good show. Anyway, that's it. To come back to your final question. I like what I see in the mirror. In old age, I find that even if the fact of coming and death scares me more and more,

the fact of losing control of my body, and it's linked to what I'm living in my family, but I think it's a privilege to grow up. Did you think you'd say that? I wasn't there. You weren't asking those questions? No. It's like all the new questions are coming from a new perspective. Consciousness. Consciousness. You know, I've been around my death, but not as much as my grandparents.

Do you think it's related to your father's illness? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. And the uncles and aunts. My brother, the other one, told me, I'm 45 years old. What? And I'm 41. How are you? We're always four years apart. But how did you do that? What? You're 45? I don't understand.

I see young people who are turning into teenagers, not teenagers, but older. I think it's going fast. And I've always been told, even if you're a girl, your childhood is going to be a mess. fast. And I've always been told, you see, you have a daughter, your child, it's going crazy. Yes. Because you're not just focused on yourself,

you're focused on another person, an individual you love, in which you put everything you have to put, but it seems that through her, I see time go by. And I find that tough. I love it, it's correct. To take advantage of it. Exactly. Yes, because time, you have to make sense of it. Exactly. Because you have to give time a meaning.

But it's all new realizations. You know, I keep my time hyperactive. I make time go by quickly. I do everything quickly. Right now, I want to pull it out. So the only way for me to pull it out is to slow down. That's a good thought. I don't have a choice.

Because time doesn't stop. It's the same time for you, for me and for everyone. But the only way I can really embrace it, seize it, is to let go. And when you play on the ground, you live it. Oh yes, yes. Oh my God, it's fun. It's really fun. You even have to forget time. Almost. Yes. And at the same time, through that, you see things grow, you see things take life. So I tell you, there's something with gardening, I don't know, I don't know, I don't understand, it's a triple A. But I love it.

Well, you found a passion? Yes! I'm listening to you, I'm going to be passionate. Oh yeah, that's it. You know, when you say I'm buying tools, because you know, passions are an investment, you know, because you can love a lot of things, but when you find your passion, you'll want to have the right equipment, talk to others who have the same passion as you, try things, and you don't see the time go by. That's passion, it brings you to a place. It feeds you. You see people running, they'll get to know each other, those who ride bikes, they'll have a bike that's performing. You see that, but passions are beautiful, and we need to have passions.

I think I didn't have any. I've always had passions for music, but I didn't have any passions. You didn't engage in your passion. No, that's right. You were engaged. You have an investment in time, in investment, and you live something. I have a lot of little things like that, and it's funny because you're right. I realize that when you spend to dress up, but I don't take enough time to do it. I mostly dress up to be a DJ, but you know, I don't want to be a DJ in bars. For me, I've always loved this universe.

And I'm dressed like a professional. But I don't take the time to do it, you know? I do it for half an hour, an hour, and then whoop, life... Because you have to... And you like doing that? I love it. But if you invest... That's what you make me realize.

So I'm going to redo my list. And things I've invested in, and I bought the equipment, and I and I go. It's going to be that. There's a sign. And that's good. Because I think we don't work enough with our children to find a passion. It's not our passion. What turns it on? Because when you have a passion, you never get bored in life.

My passion was my job. I do radio, my passion. That's it. That's why I don't work my life. I'm passionate about what I do. But now, I need to stimulate myself in another way. To balance yourself more. Yes, exactly. Yellow level. Yellow level.

You give me four questions. You will have to answer one and I will ask you another one too. So here are the four questions on the yellow level. What is your definition of TDAH? What traits of character did you inherit from your father? What did you learn from your motherhood? And what did you not receive from your parents and what did you miss? Oh my God, the big questions. It's a breakthrough.

Oh my God, the big questions. His advance. I'm going to go with my dad's character. I could not choose all of them, but this one, mainly in this period of my life, I see the word father and I... I want to say... In fact, his courage, his tenacity... My father is so someone, he's a pacer, but he's a pacer in projects. He's a TDAH, my father. My father never had a diagnosis.

But he's a TDAH. I could put my hand on the fire. There's a brain that goes at a speed that's not possible. And besides, in his illness, Parkinson's disease, the body is dead or dies quietly, but the brain stays. So it's difficult because there's not someone who... He still has a thousand projects. Sometimes he could tell us something and we said, but how come we didn't think about that? He was on fire. So through his

speed of execution, his speed of making decisions and acting, I discovered, I inherited all of this because, go, we do it. We have a call, we say yes, we embark. And discipline too. My father is an extremely disciplined man. I have less than him, but I learn through that. It's a trait that I would like to work on. Do you think he was as young, disciplined, or was it with time that it happened? Maybe with time that it happened? Maybe with time. But he's much more... My father is much more aware of the rules than I am.

I'm just like that, I'm like that of my mother. It's fascinating, the parents in life and education. Yes, there's genetics, but there's how they raise us and how they have their personalities. There, they're lacking, that the one who's going to fall. That fascinates me because, ah yes, I think it's beautiful. But that's it, so the traits and characters of my father, it's a... and the illness made, despite the fact that it's very painful for a family and for him to learn that we have this kind of illness, it brought us closer with time.

He has a very great sensitivity and emotion. He hides it more than me, but he's a great sensitive person and we really have that in common. And the business side. My father has been the boss of business since he was at the same level. And I have that too. I'm more about business than artist in life. You know, I... It seems to me that it's more... ...acquainted in me... Always projects, always okay. And not necessarily to make money.

Do you understand? You see the opportunities. No, we find the solutions. My father is a guy of solutions. That really... So there you go. And his wife too. We're like... How long have they been together? 38 years. I love them. Have you always liked her as a stepmother? Was it difficult at the beginning?

Zero. Because you were very young, basically. You were 3 years old. She was there. I knew her even before because she worked with my father at the time. So I said to her, Mona, Mona is a power woman in everything. She's a sphere of life, no matter what. She's an athlete. When she was young, she was an athlete. She went to study medicine, then fashion. You put something on her, she's going to make you a table. You want a table? She's going to make you a table. I don't understand that woman, how she has so many skills.

It fascinates me. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. She's really fascinating. She's fascinating. And she was good for us too. She was good because my father was working together, but it was still her when we were at my father's house who took care of us. You were young, like 3 and 7 years old.

Yeah, 3 and 7, 4 years and 8 years. Okay, 4 and 8 years. And you know, very, very... They were 24-7 together, they are still together. But it was easier for me to have conversations to access my father. And she didn't have children? No. So it's something because, you know, we often talk about beautiful mothers. Sometimes it's not easy to acclimatize everyone together. Yes.

And she knew how to do that. Yes. And you know, my mother, and Mona are very close today. My mother comes to Mona often. But my mother is a big heart. She was hurt, she went through these things, but we move forward. And when we move forward, we love each other. You understand? We go back to new bases. And my mother, she got up up and she was good. But that's it. So today everyone gets along really well. Fortunately, because it's flat, it's also for children. But yeah, I have three parents in my life.

And each of them brings me something. It's really... I have a very emotional, emotional, emotional, emotional side, non-judgmental side, which I was talking about my mom. My mom is a human. Very progestic emotional, very reactionary, very weak actually. My father was more of a role model. But over time, the role became a little softer. And I was an adult. I'm still going to raise my daughter, but I can't get up. I can take your advice, but there are limits to what you can do.

And I think that aging and the illness and its vulnerability, because my father, it was so much going on. He was going so fast. I saw him coming to the shopping mall, he was walking with his hands. Then he came to change the shop with Mona. He wanted to change the store in place. He was out of breath, he walked fast. He was wearing jeans. He was wearing jeans, and he was like, oh yeah, and then he had projects, and we were like, OK, we're launching a new campaign, and then we were doing ads, and then shooting. It was fascinating. Employees, employees, and all the employees. Listen, sometimes I get messages, I worked for your father for 20 years, it's the best school I could have.

People are so numberless and contemplative. From my age, my father, how he was as an entrepreneur, and how he was as an employer, in fact. I find that beautiful, because I'm like, you know, my father was a great father when I was little, no matter which teenager he was with his parents. But I see how people... Because he was very strict. My father was like that, you know, his eyes when he looked at me. But it helped me. I love this great freedom with limits. And reading the testimonies, hearing the testimonies, what does it change when you look at your father? Well, you know, I wrote my father's book, if you remember, I told you about it. When I discovered what my father was, because I didn't know it,

when I became aware of the artist he was. At school, I was like a Asbin. I was like an old singer from the 60s, who did tunes in Fureur from time to time. I was like Ketan, at least in Gadou. But over time, when I started digging into his archives and seeing his stuff, I said, you're a superstar, dad. And I wanted to pay tribute to that. I wanted to be understood.

He was a very great artist. We're talking about Marie-Mille, and Roxanne Vuneau. And we're talking about artists in Quebec. It was that, times two. Times three even. He had less. Well, he had less, and he was going to sing on TV. You know what's cool? He was making a song once, and it was a star the next day.

And we went to buy records. And we went to the shows, and there were stores that started. Anyway, it was... He's a character, my father, I always have a lot of admiration for him, but I needed to make people understand who he was. And by doing that work, writing that, collaborating with people who testified to me, who talked about that, I would have known. I would have been 30 years old when I was 50. Or I would have been 20 years old when I was 30, to see and witness that. And my biggest regret in life, and it's to her that I dedicated the book, my daughter Billy, is that I would have liked her to know her grandfather better than that. I would have liked her to see her grandpa playing with her because even though she was very busy,

I have very vivid memories of my father who came to sleep with us and he was walking on the ground. He was struggling to scare us. I would have liked to go to my brother's house in the bedroom. I have beautiful moments in the chalet. I would have liked her to know that. I would have liked her to call him. Life, that's it. But she knows him, she sees him. It teaches her what life is too. But you know...

Have you always been smart since Billy's birth? Yes. Yes. At first, because it's a degenerative disease, it's like a phase. So at first, I was less ill. How did you get the diagnosis? How did I get it? How did you receive the diagnosis?

It was after the loft. I was in a rush. It took a year before they told us. They didn't dare to tell us because I think he needed to... to compute it, excuse me, the term, but to absorb it, to accept it exactly. And I reacted strongly because I didn't know that. And it was always like, yeah, but we have time in front of us. It's going to be fine, we have time.

Yeah, because it's not an imminent death? No, my father is 83 years old today. He doesn't have cholesterol, he has organs. If there wasn't Parkinson's, ayayay. Ay, we would all have... But he learned relatively young? Yeah, Parkinson's has been learning for 15 years now. So it's a degenerative disease that is so...

He was hyperactive, he was a hockey player, he was training, he was doing sports. The stores didn't count his hours. So to be a fool, you're in that physical state. He's a singer. He got operated on for the neck. He went on tour with idols across Quebec. Mona had done a sort of thing for once. He had all put it in black because he was a little stale. He was all well-arranged. But I tell myself, with a cane on the stage that she had put, like a leopard,

it fascinates me. Until he can no longer be able to do it, he could do. Because it made him want to live. So it's not easy to see someone who was in my time being in that condition because he doesn't want to leave. He's all there. But at the same time, does it happen at the end of the disease? You don't die from Parkinson's. You don't die from Parkinson's. You will die from other conditions, from the effect of having been there for a long time, from...

Is it because mandarin doesn't have a problem with food? It can have a problem, yes. With deglutation. There can be a problem of malnutrition. It's all that. It's the side effects of the disease. It's the side effects of the disease. But yeah, that's it. And it's because I don't understand how many years have passed.

I've been bringing that, since the beginning. Because time goes fast, and time takes away what you like. Because you see it through these years, his body has decreased his body capacity all the time. Yes, indeed. And that's also your father. Well, yes, it's his mobility, it's his drive. In fact, it's what he is. It's full of mourning for his passion for fishing. It's really his drive, if it was a fast man who was condemned to slowness and immobility with cognitive functions that still exist, it's tough. Because if I have half of his courage, I'll be proud because he's very brave. But yeah, brave is the best term to describe it. But I would say that the trait of character that we have in common is really the drive.

We dare. And you started saying, I have three parents, and you say that your mother brought you, your father and Mona. Mona, well, it's all human. My father is a lot of everything. It's precisely the driving force, we move forward in life, we place ourselves in life. And Mona, well, it's... Mona, it's like she never... She never gets sick, Mona. Mona, she's always on the edge of death. I'm not always on the edge of death, I've never seen someone be so optimistic in life. We're going to get to the end every time.

My father didn't walk anymore, he started walking again. She made him walk again, he succeeded. I've never seen that. I say, she fascinates me. She's always motivated. I've never seen my parents in a row. My father, Mona, I've never saw that. I said to myself, she fascinates me. She's always motivated. I never saw my parents in Chicanet. My father, Mona, I never saw them in Chicanet in 38 years. Never. And they were 24-7 together. It's her man, and it's not that, because they complement each other. I told you, she admires him so much. In fact, there is mutual admiration, not possible. My father would not be my father without Mona, and Mona would not be my father, but Mona without my father.

I tell you three parents, but it's because for me, they are like... It's like one. Oh no, it's a big piece of shit. Yeah. And I told her again behind my back, you know, you know you're always going to be there. She knows it, but for me, I wanted to stamp. So this is my father, Descene. Yes, yes, yes. You stay there.

Yes, it's like my mom. And I'm privileged to have this... You know, you take a village to raise people, you know, to have a child. So... Oh no. And I wouldn't be the same person if I hadn't had my mom in my life either. Since I wouldn't be the same if I hadn't had my mom or my dad, my mom really has an impact, you know, an importance, an influence. What a beautiful testimony.

Oh yes, I love it. I think it will do good to beautiful moms, you know, who don't know too much, who... Yes. ...that it's possible. much, who... Yes. That it's possible. Yes, it's possible. Yes, and there's a lot of evidence that there were friction... There are phases.

I was a beautiful mom of a young girl, my daughter's sister, for five years. Tiffany, I love her. I still see her. She's at home right now. I take her on a trip, Tiffany. Even though I'm not with the father. Because you have a connection. Yes, even though I'm not with the father. Because you said it was a link. Yes, and the mother in Tiffany, we are friends.

We went to Saint-Jean-Baptiste together. We call each other. It's important. At some point, you have to let go of that. Do you understand? And for our children. And recently, I told my ex, who is the father of my daughter, because we had a little more difficult period not long long ago, but a little bit of time already. And I said to him, you know, I realized in that period where we were celebrating,

where I dropped the gloves. Against whom am I fighting? I'm fighting against my daughter because she's my daughter. He... No, no. No. And I promised him that I would, from that moment on, even if I was in love with him, I would always protect that guy for the rest of my life because he's the father of my child. And through that path, I protect my child.

No matter who enters his life, no matter who comes into my life or into Jessica's life, because we're really a trio. It's like they produced something different, families are split. It's important. And I really invite people to... It doesn't give anything. And when we accept the ego to drop, and I don't drop a my gloves in life. I fight, and they knew that. I wouldn't have let them take them, but I did. Who is my opponent? It's an employer that I hire and I want, and she's like, no, it's the father of my child. So you said, it's not all equal. I mean, it's not all the same battles, with the same tools, with the same weapons.

It's like I did a little bit of the word, it's over, we're going to talk. But it must have inflated something. I'm shivering to talk about it. And I will always protect our relationship. We may not agree, but there will never be a lack of respect in our relationship. Never again. Like, you know... It's a big change.

Oh yeah, yeah. Yes. You know, a change of attitude, a change of perception... Yeah, but I'm elsewhere. It brings everything back to what I told you. I'm not in the... I don't want that. But it comes to light quickly? I think it's because of that, because of the effect. When it happened, I saw everything that took me energy. No, I don't want to live that anymore.

Life is going too fast. I'm going to take advantage of it. I want to spend real quality time with my daughter, not being in the middle of getting caught with her father. It's not a guard, you know? We did a webinar at Marie-Claude, it was public, we did it on the Internet, on Facebook. In fact, with Christophe Forré, a great French psychiatrist. He wrote two books about his periods, he doesn't want to call it the 40s or 50s,

but the periods of transition, where there are elements that are placed in life, and you have to give meaning to them. How do I get back to the heart of my life? There's one, it's here now, and the other, it's to love yourself at last. And it's beautiful. What you say, it's like that. It's a moment when you choose things for yourself, to stop putting yourself... Because we do things that put us in a state that is not fun, that exhausts us. And that is sometimes not necessary. That's it.

By ego, by feeling of justice, by trauma, by... X, Y, Z, Z, do you understand? You know, it's the father of my daughter. He gave me that guy, the most beautiful little girl in the world, and his sister. And I always say both because... You know, Tiffany is like my daughter. So no, I will always cherish that, each in our relationship. And it's a promise that I made.

And I know that I'm a character, but I'm going to dose that. I'm going to adjust myself. But you're conscious, so it changes everything. I know him, he knows me, so I think we should always remember who we did that for. And it's for our little girl. I will continue in this sense with the question, what did you learn from maternity? Oh my God, my God, maternity is... I would have liked to have more. I have one and I have a lot of help at home because with my job, I can't always be 100% there with the horror of stupidity, but I would have liked to have more of it because I like it.

You have three, I like it. I love blondes at home, the little ones. It's as if maternity taught me to re-center myself, in fact, to re-center myself on the essential. And my speech is certainly similar to the speech of all mothers and fathers. And at the beginning, I was traumatized by that because I didn't feel free anymore. I took a step to realize when I had the birth of my daughter, that, oh my God, my life would never be the same again. J'ai accouché de ma fille de « Oh mon Dieu, ma vie sera plus pareille jamais ». Le centre, c'était plus toi. C'est comme entre les deux. Mais pour tout le reste, moi j'ai accouché, et je l'ai déjà dit, mais en accouchant, j'ai accouché, puis ça j'avais pas ça. How do you say that? I'm not afraid, but I always have the impression that I don't do things the way they should.

The guilt, that's what I'm looking for. I was born with guilt. I leave at 5 o'clock and my dog is at home and I get anxious because I leave him at 5 o'clock. Imagine my child. That's it, it's small. And less and less, because life teaches you. That's why I think I would have been excellent with the third motorbike, because at one point, you remember, the first one, the one that traces the path. My mom's path, because she traces her little child's path, but I trace my mom's path too. And I thought I was really going to be a stricter mother, but in the end, I'm a mother who's pretty cool and very playful. But I always feel guilty for not being present. Guilty for, oh my God, okay, here's our home.

Guilty. So I unfortunately associate maternity too much with that. I can't wait to get deprogrammed. But it comes with it. And is she, she reproaches you for things? For you. No. How old is she blaming you for things? Not at all. What age is she?

She could tell you if there was something big enough. Yes. She blamed me a lot for my separation from her father. She sometimes makes vows that we come back together. I'm like, hey boy, I'm taking it too hard. But I want to say that... That won't be possible. Well, no, no, no. But you know, I understand her.

I lived the same thing as her, at the same age. But she's going to be strong, Billy. She's going to get through it. I see her evolve. I think it's so cool. And to answer your question, what I learned about maternity, there are things that my mother, because I was very close to my mother when I was young, did that I reproduced without realizing it. And it was behaviors that I might have wanted that didn't exist. I was like, hey, I'm going to make my mother's things fall again. But maternity is very therapeutic. 100% therapeutic.

You know, in the sense that you see the behaviors again, that you you may not like, and then it allows you to say, but why? You know, on TV, we do what we call stop tapes. So it's, we stop because there's a problem, whatever. It means stop tape, we stop everything. And I find that sometimes, you have to do it during. You know, it's not me, that's my mother. Yes, I understand what you're saying. You know, because you said it earlier, there are things in the case, there are things in the in. But that's the mimicry. Yes, we repeat what we've known. And it's disturbing, I find.

I think it makes us grow old, it's to say, OK, I'm like my mother. I'm proud to be like my mother, but... But at times, you know, at business, sometimes I thought it was a little old, and I was like, I'm going to do the same thing again. You know, you understand, you're like, ah, it's like a natural reaction to what we've known. 100%, yes, but that's it, we're programmed like that. So it's going to be you, we repeat, you know. But you said it, it's therapeutic. So my daughter, at first I didn't know how to gauge it, you know, and then after that, over time.

But it was a lot of me who put pressure on myself. I didn't like being pregnant. I found it difficult because I worked a lot during my pregnancy. I was burned out. I moved, I bought a house, I renovated. You know, like, I didn't know. I think about that. So it's like my image of the size, that's it. So if I had a second one, I would have stopped instantly. It would have been... So that's why I'm hanging up. I'm like, hey, it's circumstantial, she's taking a shower. You're a performer.

Yes. But I didn't have a choice. You know, it was timing and... Well, yes. We find solutions. Well, we move forward. But I found help. And since I have this help, since 6 years, because she's always been in my life, this help, Amélie, we didn't call her.

Who was a nanny at the beginning, who became the guardian of my daughter, then after that the educator of my daughter, then after that Sam Warren. And a sister of heart for me. It has changed a lot, it has relieved me. And I needed, I sometimes feel like a father. I don't know what I'm going to say. I feel like a father. Because I'm a caretaker. I'm not always at home. I come back, I play. And I'm not always in charge of the basics. I don't want to throw myself on the rocks. But that's the image you have. That's what you lived. That's what I lived when I was young. Yes, but it belongs to you what you lived.

I know that the parents are... I look at the father, my daughter is so... And I find it beautiful. But your daughter will have another model. Yes. And it comes back to the village. Yes. Oh yes.

And it's a good model. We are completely different. But it's... She is she used to be with children, so she secured me in what I thought at first to be a lacuna, or I didn't know how to do it. But I think I was a better mom than I was when she was very young, because I worked a lot. So, yeah, I didn't have a choice. Do you still have as much guilt? Less and less. Less and less. My daughter has better things too. You know, there was the separation. It was a shock. A shock.

That's not what I expected in my life. Not for me, you know. It wasn't what I expected in my life. Not for me. Everyone has a relationship with another. I have an unhappy internet in the relationship. But my daughter, to do that... Why? She didn't ask that. It's mostly that, actually. The announcement?

The announcement and The reaction? The announcement and her sister who left, who was no longer at home. She was younger, but she reacted later. She didn't react right away. She reacted physically, but it wasn't clear. And then, over time, it was more conversations. Why? It was like any separation. It's difficult. Why? You know... Oh, it was...

Like any separation, it's difficult. I would have wished not to experience that. After that, I said to myself, well, you've experienced it. Are you less strong today? Do you have a trauma? Maybe. Did you consult? Did it maybe allow you to meet extraordinary people?

I wouldn't have known my name dad if my parents weren't separated. You understand? So I tell myself, hey, what's going to happen is what has to happen. And we couldn't be together. And I think we've been better parents since we've been separated. Yes, and I think that all psychologists agree to say that separation is sometimes the best way because you keep living together, and when there's no more love, and the children live, feel it, it's also consequences. Yes, 100%.

You understand, you can also have traumas, you can also need to consult. That's life. That's life. That's life. Yes, and we're, you know, it's because we sometimes go back to the 50s where there were less and we compare with time. But no, it's like today we say, on the contrary, we name what doesn't go by individuality, maybe, but because we need to live other things and to live our lives too.

We make children, you know, I mean, I'm a child of divorce, je considère que je vais bien, pis que je réussis ma vie. La vie de ma fille va pas, t'sais, c'est chouette à cause de ça, là. Mais là, ça va bien. Ça va super bien. Ah oui, oui, oui, oui. Vraiment, vraiment, vraiment. Fait que c'est bien pour dire, hein. Encore une fois, le temps fait son œuvre. Le temps, t'sais, comme... mais on a une... t'sais, c'est ça. Ça a été... il y a eu de But we said, you know, it was... There was a wave, but now it's calm. But you managed to calm down. You managed to calm down the wave. We're good.

Yes, and you had a beautiful model too. 100%. 100%. No, no, everything is perfect. I just love this family situation. No sugar added. Neutral. Refreshingly simple. You have to answer that one, but there will be only one. At what point in your life would you have liked time to stop? What period of your life was the most challenging? And what type of lover are you? Oh my God!

Well, I want to... Because I think we've been going back in time, in the period of life. Let's go with the lover, it's funky, it's going to be a little... And I'm... It's... Let's go with the lover, it's funky, it's going to be a little bit... And I'm... it's the angle of my life, the facet of my life that is the most problematic. But it's not problematic, it's completely different. It's the one with whom I have the least control, let's say. Because emotions take control?

Yes, because emotions take control. Well, yes. But you were looking for butterflies. Yes, it's funny, I told myself recently, I'm going to fall in love. I fell in love a lot. I love to love. And I've always been in a relationship, I've had long relationships. But it's since I became to love. I've always been in a relationship, I've had long relationships. But it's since I became single.

It seemed like it gave me a break. Oh my God, this is so much fun. And then I met extraordinary people. But I'm not ready for that yet. So is it because I don't have that feeling of love that's developing? Or is it just because it's a question of timing? But I like to be in love. I feel good when I'm in love. I like to look at my boyfriend in love.

It's alive. It makes us live love. I have energy when I'm in love. It's like I'm floating. And not that I'm not the same when I'm not in love, on the contrary, when I'm single, I have fun too. I'm not talking about having fun, seeing men and sleeping, that's not it. It's just being alone, learning your decisions, not being like, we're going to have dinner together, we'll see each other at the end of the week. You have to make your plans, your life, your patterns. But with time, I never tell myself, man, someone is in love with me. But it seems that because I have my daughter, it has completely changed the vibe.

It seems that my love, I often say that I'm in love with my daughter, I call my daughter my lover. It's like that. Now I don't want to... It's in the helicopter. It's a nickname. It's like it meets a need I have right now. I want to give myself 100% to her. And not to be a compromise.

Because she already hid her role. So I'm not going to be a compromise. And I don't want to make a guy live that. That everything is around me and my daughter. So when the time comes, it will be the time. But I don't necessarily feel the immediate need to be in a relationship right now. Even though I see someone extraordinary, but he knows it, we're in it.

You know, it's... we see each other, but it's chill. It's not, there's no official frame. There's no commitment on the medium or long term? Not for the moment. You're in your present moment. Yes, 100%. Oh, and I need that. And I don't want pressure. But it's all the time, I want, I want, I want. That's what's annoying. I feel guilty. Sometimes, you know, you had planned to see him because I see him less than we live together. So we see each other Wednesday night. We booked it on Sunday.

But Wednesday night comes and I'm burned out, I can't wait anymore. I'm burned out, I'm tired. There I feel cut because there, well planned. But there, I know all the time a little bit that, I tell myself, if I was alone, I wouldn't have that. So I said, I have it and he understands. He understands, no stress, we go out another, or we see each other super relaxed tonight. I don't want to be in performance when we see each other, but being in dating, it's like you have to be a little like the best of yourself. Freshly rosé, away party, like you're ready to go. You understand?

When you're in a relationship, I have the impression that sometimes you're like, maybe, no, I'm going. I don't know if it makes sense, but it seems like I put less pressure on myself when I'm in relationships. It's like you have something to present. You going to be stuck with a guy in a relationship. I provoke that non-vulnerability. Do you understand? Yes. I... Nesson, is it really you who sees that moment? What do you mean? Well, is it the real Kim?

No, not really. He has access to the characters before... Yes, he has access to them. After all these years that we've known each other, he still knows my personality. We have discussions, and he communicates so much. He's such a good person.

But I'm not the lover. When you're in love, you cross that wall. What changes? How I invest in relationships. What does that mean? passion. Mon investissement. Ça veut dire quoi, ça, ton investissement? Présence. Présence, désir, intensité, t'sais, dans tout ce que c'est anglo-passion quand je suis amoureuse. Pis écoute, j'étais amoureuse, t'sais, mon ex et moi, c'est séparé après cinq ans, mais j'étais amoureuse vingt minutes avant qu'on se parle, tu comprends-tu? Même si on avait des moments difficiles, on the phone. I was in love 20 minutes before we broke up. Do you understand? Even if we had difficult moments.

You were in love until the end. Oh yes. Oh yes. But it's that. It seems like I'm blocking myself. I'm not ready. I'm not 100% ready. And after that, I tell myself, are you not ready?

Or is it because you're missing something? So I was eager to ask myself those questions. So you're going to do it. I'm going to do it. What will happen, will happen. And it's very clear. I put things in the clear. Because my goal is not to hurt anyone. But I love to love. I love to be in love. I like passion. I think I'm a good lover. I'm enveloping. I like that. What are your needs in love? I said enveloping, but that's also being enveloped, being admired. Admiration is so important. I noticed it with my parents because I think it's what makes you last in time.

I'm very my love language. I'm very touchy. I like that. I like that touchy. I like that make me take. I like that make me consider. I like that surprise. I like that. And I'm not always, hey, you know, we can very can relax at home, I have a book, I listen to a movie, we can be in separate bubbles, but together at the same time. But I still need freedom through this passion because I need my moments. That's what I discovered with the Celibat. Since I was with my father, because we were in the same house, it feels good to be back in my business. And I think if I were in a relationship with a man, I would continue to be everyone at home. I like that.

You know, we had Maud Guerin, a show, and her husband was at the top of a building, and I was there. She understood everything. They understood everything. They have their bulls, they see them, and they have kids too, children. But you see, they bought a house for the first time together. But after like 15 years. But what was that? You had marked that. But I understand the path.

Yes, but it was brilliant. Yes, it's brilliant, my God. And there are children in there, who don't want to be mixed with other children. And I'm not the same when the children come to me, my partner is there, or whatever, or my daughter. And I want to have my bubble, or I know Billy,

I want my bubble. That's it, she had her bubble with her son, her husband at the top, she was going to visit him, he was giving her appointments. Yes, but it keeps me going. And you know, my ADHD, as much in breaks as I quickly go to other things, because I don't know why, I'm made of it. As much as in relationships, I have to be on fire. It's like as long as I have a little bit of self-control. Is it demanding for the other?

Ah, sure. But I compensate differently. Sometimes it's needed. But I'm very demonstrative, I'm very passionate. So guys like that. I invest you. So it's like that. You know, my tone, that's it. And when I'm not following it, you feel it. Do you understand? When I switch, it appears. Yeah, that's it.

There's a little decline there. We got the corner there. I have to be careful. But that's what I said at the beginning, the love guy, it's the personality trait that I have less control. I'm a little carried away by my emotions, I'm less'amour, comme perdre du poids, pis pas manger. Pis j'étais comme, ramène-toi, tu sais, comme... Fait pas milan que t'étais avec, pis... Tu t'es faite. C'était pas toi qui décidais de la rupture à ce moment-là? Euh, non, ben non, exactement. C'est-à-dire que oui la première fois, non la deuxième, tu sais, comme c'était... OK. No, exactly. That means that yes, the first time, no, the second time, you know, like it was... Okay. But that's... there's a certain time too, you know, but...

But even if you let it, it hurts. It hurts. It's the end of a love. It's the end of a chapter, you know, that it's... It's also memories, it's songs, it's... Ah, I'm in constant nostalgia. Oh, yes, you're nostalgic. I'm nostalgic. The hell. The hell, the hell, the hell.

I don't know what to do. André Gagnon, the other time, random in my car. I parked myself, I started crying, it made me think of my father. I stopped all of that. I listen to music, the BG, it makes me think of X, it's such a thing. All the music I listened to when I was younger, I have a lot of difficulties, I come there. I cry in the same place. Do you cry a lot in your car?

A lot. I'm like that too. In the car. In the car. Yes, and we're like in our bubble. You can put the music you want, because music is a catalyst. A catalyst for emotions. 100%.

My God, we communicate through music at home. Yes, it regulates me, music. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, it regulates me. Yes, yes. I would like to have music constantly in my life. I feel like there's a background track. It energizes me, it feeds me. It anchors things in your life.

It associates you with the smell too. But I cry a lot in my car. And I laugh as much in my car, but my point is that at that moment, I love it. I love it when I let go. Do you stay friends with your exes? Listen, yes. Well, there are some that don't, because our paths are... And sometimes, too, I don't know, all the time, you know, the ex-relationship, keeping an ex-friend when you don't have a child in your life, you know.

I have one that I'm very close to, he still writes to me, I liked him very much, Jean-Simon, but that too, it was a pearl. We were together when I arrived in Montreal for a few years. News all the time. Well, my daughter's father is going away tonight. But you know, it's always cordial. But there are some that are no longer part of my life, no. I would be very comfortable crossing the street, you understand?

I understand that, no, I understand. But love letters, it hurts. Ah, it's tough. Love letters, it hurts. And maybe also that, through what I want. Yeah, you don't want to live that. Oh, there, there. There, I want a break. There, I want to control where I put my pen. Surely. But there, because you have a big one too. Yes.

So what you do with your father, it's emotional, it's a big girl too. Yes. What you're going through with your father, it's emotional. It's a lot of emotions. He's the man of my life. That's it. He's the man of my life. My life is 83 years old. I'm very much in denial. I don't dare to go there because I think that when it's going to be like that, I won't have a choice.

So I don't learn. We're once again in the mode of solution. But we won't have a wall in the future. But we're coming back. The wall is getting closer. Yes. But I'm well surrounded and we're a solid family. And I'll be there until the end.

And then, because there will be an after, I think a piece of advice is to stop afterwards. Because you know, what you're doing now, in solution mode, it's been years. Yes, yes. But when it stops, it's over, in solution mode, there's no more. Yes, yes. But when it stops, your solution mode is over, there's no more. Yes. And the body releases. Because it also allows you to...

To continue. To continue, because it's not over. It allows you to continue, but when it releases, it releases. Often, our reflex is to continue and say, well, there's nothing else to do, the person is not there anymore. But your body, it has suffered something. It's stressful. You forced it to continue, despite everything. But when that happens, the next helpers, after they are, it's extreme. You know, you're talking about yourself, you put your name in the notes. I'm there, but I'm in Montréal, I'm far away. Yes, but that's your head. You understand your body.

You know, you underestimate... It's crazy, the next few years. You underestimate, you will feel in everything you do, the kind of fatigue. You know, you wonder, and sometimes you don't identify because you don't talk enough, I find, about this phase of the after-life. Because we're afraid to talk about the after-life.

And when the after-life happens, the first thing that happens is that everyone is isolated. Because the person you're close to will gather people around them. When that person is no longer there, people go back home. The intersection is less present, but we all return home exhausted, even though we still need to help each other, to talk, to understand that these steps are part of a journey, and it's not necessarily a loss of control over our lives, it's just... A phase.

A fatigue. A fatigue, yeah. You know, we'd say we don't want that, we want to continue, but no. There's like a... There's a shut to continue, but, but I made it this far. Yes, that's it. We're in battle mode. We're in survival mode.

We're in our reserves. We don't sleep much, but me, nothing to do with what Mona can live, you know, and in all her intensity, in all her love, you know, so... And I have a lot of respect because she has always taken care of him, even when he was in health, you know? She was taking care of him, you know, take care of him. But now we're in a different phase. So I can see him sometimes. But we're there. It's a gift that my father left for him. He doesn't have a child, but we're going to continue to be his family.

I'm talking about that, and we're not there, but that's the same. I have the message that I don't repeat it because she knows it, but that I want it to be anchored in everyone's life. I have the impression that for the sick person, knowing that is reassuring. I imagine, yes. I have the impression that for the sick person, to know that is reassuring. I imagine, yes. You know, when I'm going to leave, everything will be in its place. There is a legacy in there too.

A legacy, yes. We often talk about legacy, the will, the money, but the legacy that you leave, to leave your things well, to have named things. To leave while you see that everyone is on a nice trajectory. And everyone is united. Sometimes, unfortunately, there are people who leave or who will leave and are in trouble. And sometimes, I often tell myself that if it was the little bit on my own, so I stop. I don't talk about my father, I talk about life in general.

Because I don't have time to waste for crap. Whether we connect in love or otherwise we make a deal on the futility. But you really have to take the time to be with the people you love. I heard it all the time, I still hear it, everyone tells us. It's like sentences, but when you live it, it's like a dimension. It's like you have no choice. Take the time to do it. And I still have that time, I still have that chance.

So I flatter him, I put him in the picture. He must find me annoying. I'm like, annoying. I'm enveloping. And you're there. And I'm there. At the level of Eros and Companier. Eros, Eros, Eros. It's Eros and Ross. You're going toen donner quatre. Tu vas en choisir une. Bon, c'est...

Tu vas juste répondre à une question à ce niveau-là aussi. D'accord. Est-ce facile pour toi d'exprimer tes désirs au sein du couple ou d'un couple quand t'es en couple? Quelle est ta définition du désir? Quelle importance accorde-tu à l'intimité émotionnelle? Et de quelle façon ta vie sexuelle a-t-elle évolué au fil du temps? Hé là là! Une question. What is the importance of emotional intimacy? And how has your bisexual life evolved over time? Oh my! One question.

This game is so fun. I would say that I go with this one. How has your bisexual life evolved over time? Because I haven't talked about it so often, but I'm so comfortable talking about it. There are people who think it's a taboo subject, whereas for me, it's like... It's the reason why I exist, that I exist. There have been sexual relations and they have been done. And it's love too, it's a love language, sexuality, when it's done in respect and then... Concentration. Concentration, especially, exactly, 100%.

I would say that I... Sexuality for me, very young, it was in my thoughts. Exactement, 100%. Je te dirais que j'ai... la sexualité pour moi très jeune, c'était dans mes pensées. Très très jeune. J'entendais ma mère faire l'amour avec son chum de l'époque. Je trouvais ça beau. Moi je comprenais c'était quoi. J'avais hâte. T'avais quel âge à peu près là? J'avais 8-9 ans. J'avais pas hâte de faire l'amour à 8-9 ans. Mais t'étais consciente de ça? Oui. Tu sais, je regardais les films, puis je voyais les couples, tu sais, des fois qui font...

pas des films sexuels, mais des films d'amour. Ça embrassait? I watched the movies and saw the couples. Not sexual movies, but love movies. They kissed. They kissed and we felt... I was like, my God, this is like a next step. Like the fun. It's the culmination of something. So I had a great apprehension. And then, well, with time, it went by.

I had a boyfriend for two years. I wasn't well either, but I knew that it was over. The first time, it was super cool. And after that, I kind of gave myself to men. I liked seduction, I liked desire. It's like it was feeding me to feed the other. You see? There was a exchange in there, but it was more the same relationship as today. You're going to see me go there. But I was a conversation in there, but it was the exact same relationship as today. You can see me go there.

But I was a lot in the... You wanted to please. Please. Excuse me. In a sexuality where is the desire of the guy, you know, the abutment of the man. Less in the orgasm. For me, I don't know what it was. I thought I had fun, but I didn't. You know, it was fun in my head. It was fun in my head. It was fun in what it was like to feel chosen. And with time, today we're like the best.

In fact, it's the opposite. I don't think about my pleasure first of all, but often in my head I tell myself, make yourself fun with me and I'll make myself fun with you. I'm not saying it, but it will give you the best sexuality. If you think about yourself, I don't want someone who is in the performance to please me. I don't want someone who is too much on me so that... You want him to be on him too.

That is to say that both... Yes, but it's because you let me go. I want it to be about him too. Meaning both of them... Yes, but it's because you let me go. I want it to be the total abandonment. So either in your head, or wherever you want in your body. As if you were alone, but we were together, and one year we'll grab the diapason. And then it's...

It took me a while to discover that. And you know, I had a erotic shop at the time, so I sold accessories. I was talking about sexuality at 20 the time, so I sold accessories. I was talking about sexuality at 20, and I explained. It was very theoretical, technical and physical, because it was... Well, he stimulated clitoris, but he pinched it, prostate... It was part of my life.

It wasn't taboo. So when guys sometimes seem intimate... Well, of course! Guys guys who want to perform... And I'm like, my God, there's no stress. And that's why I think about you, and I think about myself. And we'll connect. You'll see, it'll happen. But it's sure intimidating.

You don't want to disappoint more, because you're comfortable talking about it. It's like I know how to place things so that we don't get to that, because it happens... It happens... And then, you know, the first time with a guy or a partner, it's never fun. Unless... It's all the time when you know a little bit because you give up, but with time, at the beginning, that's it. The first days, sometimes it's up, but with time, at the beginning, that's it. The first dates, sometimes, it's like, hey, boy, we...

And we're not made the same, men and women, so we have less physical pressure, you know. But we don't necessarily have less desire, you know, or desire. You know, there are so many women who will say, hey, me, you know, the orgasm, I knew that late in my life. I didn't know. It went that far. I didn't know if I could have orchestras. It's not been that long since women are openly talking about it. And more than that, I think that there are plenty of women who have orchestras with their partners, but mostly, I'm going to talk about myself, because it's going to be... I have a lot more personal orchestm than with a partner in life.

Because I know myself, because it's easy, but I want to have that presence with my partner to be able to... We're both in there. But that takes maturity in the couple too. Yes, but I name it sometimes. You say it. And how did you receive it when you name it? It's because it starts from the principle that guys can be a little stressed, and it's normal, as I told you, there's no zero judgment. No.

But I'm so open and calm when it comes to the beginning of relationships in relation to sexuality. If that ever happens, I think guys end up feeling good. Because in life, guys, I realize that it's guys at 30, 40, 50, it's not the same. Sometimes it happens less, let's say, quickly than at 25 or 30. Guys too. So I realize that men living sometimes, it can be... You have to put things... And it's also in a goal, you know, to want, as I said earlier, to please.

So I want to remove performance. I hate sexuality in performance. Like, turn-off. And it has already happened to me in the middle of a sexual relationship with a random guy. Who is random, no, but anyway but he was performing. I said, «Thank you, goodbye. We're going to stop this. It doesn't work. What are you doing?» Because you're not able to give up either. You're in observation, after all.

«Where are we? You're with...» «We're not together in there either, you know?» And if his goal is to be in performance, because that's what makes him good, it's another thing, but it's rare that it's that. It's performance for a desire for physicality. It's harder to reach the orgasm in that kind of situation. Sometimes you want to impress. Yeah, I don't know. It's like... No, it's not an energy that I like when we're in this

mood. So I like sometimes to name it right away. And it's well received. Yes, cool! It's not that easy to name. I find it interesting that you talk about it because when you say it, it's okay. The person doesn't save himself in the process. No!

It makes him feel comfortable. It's a sign of trust. But it makes him feel comfortable. And these are conversations from the beginning, we play this game. Do you understand? Because I love doing that with guys. It allows you to get to know yourself and ask yourself questions. And at the same time, I'm open to what the guys propose.

I'm not just in the fashion of me, me, me. but in the old-fashioned way, to answer that question, how it evolved. I was so focused on what the guys wanted, that at the age I'm in, since, say, the last 5-6 years, I confirm that my sexual priority is me. Because I'm talking about what I like, and what I don't like,. What I don't like is when we're in a performance. In the end, I don't like what I was when I was young and how I did it. Because you were in a performance to impress someone. Yes, and I understand it, but that's it. But it's like for me, sexuality was the ejaculation of the guy. So it can be so many things.

I don't know if we go too deep. No, not at all. No, we go everywhere. But you understand, it was like it was a lot related to the male pleasure. Today, I know very well how my body works. So let me make love while we make love together. I can make love while you make love. You understand?

There's no... It's not just you who does that. I don't know if it's clear, but... Anyway, I'm explaining more. You're participative. That means that the two of you participate. But we're connected. Yes, that's it. I participate. We are connected. Yes, that's it.

I want us to be connected. If it's about being, well, your pleasure to you, go in your head, go in your thoughts. Dare to say what you like. Go ahead. Don't think about what... I'll go, ah, she won't like me. Or girls... I hear that.

And also with the experience that girls who are too much anchored in their bodies, if I put myself in that position, will you love me? Hey, give up. Will you see my ass? Yes! I'm sure. I'm like, no, we're not there. We're not there.

If we're in a sexist way, and it's fun, it's because we're in abandonment. And that's where the jouissance happens, 100%. Because it's going to be like, too much in your head. Yes, you don't give up. You don't give up. fun, c'est parce qu'on est dans l'abandon et c'est là que la jouissance arrive, 100%. Vers ça, ça aide comme trop dans ta tête. Mais oui, tu t'abandonnes pas. T'abandonnes pas. Mais t'sais, même la charge mentale, là, t'sais, pour les femmes, je parle... Je dis pas que les hommes en ont pas. Parce que comme je suis une femme, on va parler des femmes, souvent elles vont me dire

« Ah oui, mais t'sais, c'est dur, c'est dur d'arrêter ça. » T'sais, fait que ça prend un grand... ça prend vraiment un abandon, it takes time. If things are bad, I can't do it, I can't do it. Exactly. It's like when sexuality, like making love, becomes something that tends to less. But at the same time, it may not be the right moment, or before saying, it's making love that I don't like, it's like I think you have to ask yourself questions. Yes, 100%. Because before putting that aside, it's still an important part of a life.

The sexual life is also part of the energy of a life. 100%. And I've had phases where I've... Let go of me. Let go of me. It doesn't touch me. I don't want to. I have perimenopause, hormones, you get stuck in there. And I was like, hey, hey. But I could get out of here and meet a guy who has a very red name, and I'm not ready, you know? But that doesn't mean that in a bisexual relationship, I would invest myself 100%. Not there, I'm in a phase where it's calmer. It's calmer, I'm not in there. I'm more like hormonal. Collin!

It's not easy. First time in your life that this happens to you? Yes. The heat. I'm like, what is this? And yes, yes, yes, but it's okay. I'm consul and everything. I take hormones. You're all young. Yes, I know. Opto network, and I'm taking hormones. You're all young. Yes, I know. Opto-network level. Last question Kim.

If you look at the whole of your life, what makes you proud? Well, I think it's all my side of the puzzle. It's all my me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me, it's all about me I'm a bit of blood, but of heart. I'm a bit of a group. I'm proud of that. And as I grow older, I like to see people in my house who didn't know each other. And suddenly they're like that, and they don't let go. I like that. I like being the core that unites the world. It makes me proud. My career makes me proud too because it's a privilege to have found something. It's hard to find what you want to do in life.

Since I was very young, and to have made a career, a passion to become a career, which didn't want to win my life. To have loved people, to feel that, as we said at the beginning, I make a difference. It's beautiful. Sometimes I don't say it often enough, you know, because... But the recognition, I have the recognition in front of all this. I am lucky. I am proud of the path I have accomplished in life, but I am also very lucky in there, and for that, I'm grateful. I think there's a little bit of both. And what can we wish you?

What can we wish me? We can wish me, my God, Hey, I want to say, calm, beautiful, sweet, pleasure, to continue being Epicurean. I want it to continue because when things don't go well, I try to make things better. I try to make things end up going well.

I accept those moments when things don't go well to bounce back. Every moment I've lived has allowed me to evolve. And when things stand for too long, in a frame where it's supposed to be calm and soft, sometimes I feel challenged. So keep being challenged, dare and have my little dad as long as possible. I wish you all the best. Thank you, Marc-Claude. So honored such an honor to have done this beautiful game with you. Thank you for accepting the invitation.

It was so much fun. You're so free. I feel free. Free and with a reflection. You're in a pivotal period, a period of transition in your life too, where you have your roots central. And continue gardening. I can't wait to see your show on TV on gardening. Can you imagine if it ends the same? I would have a show. We would never have thought that anyway. Marte and I, I love Marte so much. I love her so much.

Marte and Kim. No, but you know, call me Marte. I want you to come to the garden at home. I'm telling you, I'm discovering myself. You're going to have to throw me in the pot. It was a joke. Everything is possible. It's legal. Exactly.

So thank you very much, Kim Rusk. It's your turn. Thank you all for being there and we'll see you in the next podcast. Bye bye. This episode was presented by Karine Jonquas, the reference in skin care in Quebec, and by the Marie-Club, which is a space dedicated to the best-being. Table games Open Your Game, original edition and couple edition are available everywhere in stores and on Randolph.ca.