Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #115 Lise Dion | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Lise Dion semblait particulièrement heureuse de se prêter à Ouvre ton jeu devant public. La chimie s’est installée dès son entrée sur scène.Lise se livre avec la générosité qu’on lui con...naît.Elle est particulièrement touchante quand elle évoque des moments marquants de sa vie comme la perte de son père et l'arrivée de ses enfants. Elle aborde également sa carrière avec passion, partageant des anecdotes qui illustrent son parcours et les défis qu’elle a surmontés.Rencontre avec une femme assumée qui n’a plus rien à perdre, mais tout à gagner!━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:21:34 - Cartes vertes00:44:35 - Cartes jaunes00:54:10 - Cartes public01:15:50 - Cartes rouges01:26:00 - Cartes Eros01:52:32 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone, welcome to Ouvre Ton Jeu, the podcast. This week is a special edition of Ouvre Ton Jeu, because it's an episode that we shot on stage. We shot in the Odyssey room is special. It's a room that's been renovated for a while now, it's modern, it's beautiful, we can see the people, everything is perfect. But what I liked is the world of Gatineau. Really, we did an event before with the members of the brand, every time we do an Ouvre Ton Jeu on stage, we always take an hour or we do a cocktail with the members. And there you were, many of you, and there were a few men, but it was essentially women who participated in this event. And it was extraordinary, we were on a terrace outside,
Starting point is 00:00:59 it's part of the environment, the room, and it allowed me to speak with you. And yes, we obviously talk about Marie-Claude, but the Ouvretons-jeu arrive a week in advance and without advertising on Marie-Claude. So, the Ouvretons-jeu are very popular on the platform. And obviously, we talk about the guests, and it's always fascinating to hear about a guest with a sentence, textually, a sentence, a textual sentence that he said. And people remember that and I think it's wonderful to hear you. And the audience, well, obviously everyone was there, the room was full. People were really happy to see the audience on stage again.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And the audience was faithful to themselves, they made us laugh. She was really happy to see the Zions again on stage. And the Zions were faithful to themselves. She made us laugh. She said some profound things, but the fact that there is an audience, we can see how much she loves the audience. She wants to make them react. She wants to see them laugh too. So it was a peculiar play.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And that's what's fun when you go out and you're on stage. To feel that it's different. To feel that as a spectator or an auditor, you're going to experience a different opening experience. The next ones we're going to do at Saint Eustache, we're going to do an open-air game with Mario Pelsat. And in December, we're going to Quebec to do an open-air game with Mathieu Dufour. If you're interested, go to marclode.com, the dates are there and you'll be able to... There are a few tickets left in Saint-Eustache. There are a few more left in Quebec because it's only in December. But if you're interested, hurry up. And we're living something. It's really interesting to see them confide in front of you, dear public.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And so I thank the 6e Sans productions because it's thanks to them that we can do Ouvre ton jeu on stage. And also our partners because we have Karine Janca, who is a partner of the podcasts we do here, but who is also a partner when we leave the studio. She comes with us, she offers gifts to people who are present, so we like to watch you when we have the chance to see you. And if you go to Karine Janca's website and you make purchases, well, she, eh bien, elle vous offre 15% de rabais avec le code promo OUVRETONJEUX15. Même chose pour notre partenaire Eros et Compagnie. Oui, ils ont des boutiques partout à travers le Québec, mais si vous faites des achats en ligne, eh bien, avec le code promo ROSE15, vous avez 15% de rabais sur le site d'Eros et Compagnie. We also want to remind you that Optoraiso is an important partner. They have 86 independent clinics across Quebec. So if you need an examination of your vision, advice, either for contact lenses or glasses like mine, which come from Optoraiso, they have advisors and opticians who are there to help you make the right choices. And we also have a partner that was added not so long ago, a few months ago, and it's Spas Eastman.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Because we met and I've known Jocelyna for a long time, who is the one who runs this big company. It's a spa that is different, it's called the Spaceman, but for me the spa is an experience, it's a place where you can also live. You can live in a room like in a hotel, but you can also live in the middle of the forest. They made huge huts where there are sometimes six rooms in the hotel, but also we can live in the middle of the forest. They made huge chalets, where there are sometimes six rooms in the chalet, but there are spaces for life. We can do yoga there, we can have care like massages, we can meet a multitude of specialists at the spa, and what to say, food. Me, who has a lot of food intolerance, when I
Starting point is 00:05:03 eat there, it's tonic food, so there's no gluten, there's no dairy products. In any case, for me, it's quite exceptional. So I want to talk to you about that because when we met, we said to ourselves, we have so many similar values, so to encourage people, to make sure that we feel good in our lives, that we improve our living conditions. That's the goal of the Marie-Club, that's the goal of Ouvre Ton Jeu, also through testimonials from the guests. Make sure that you learn, that you can also compare yourself. You can also say, oh, finally, I'm not the only one to live all kinds of things that can happen in life. So we decided to work together. So she comes, she's there, she's also a partner of Ouvre Ton Jeu sur scène.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So if you come to Ouvre Ton Jeu sur scène, you'll be able to meet her and she also offers gifts to people who come to see us. So these are our partners that we love so much. Obviously, the podcast exists because there are people who are there with me. Carolanne is in charge of coordination, David Bourgeois at online. Jonathan Fréchette at digital creation. Maëlle Devain and Etienne Collard did the recording of the Open Your Game on the stage of Les Dion. And Jérémie Boucher was there, of course, for social networks. So, place to this special edition.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I can't wait to read your comments. We were really happy to this special edition. I can't wait to read your comments. We were really happy to find Les Dion. So, I leave all the space to my friend Les Dion. I was really excited. And I think that the most dangerous thing is that our body gives us messages that we don't listen to. We take care of ourselves with onions in the bottom and that's it. But when your head can't take it anymore, when what people ask you is, let's say that, I don't know, it can be a niaiserie, man, if you make us an apple pie and you don't even want to do it anymore, you don't even want to do it anymore, you don't even want to do it anymore, that's where the danger is. Because it's not long before the head is loose. If the head is loose, it's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Mental health is very dangerous and we're not yet aware of what it can do. Open Your Game is presented by Karine Jonquard, the reference in skin care materials available in nearly a thousand pharmacies in Quebec, and by the Marie-Claude Club, which is a space dedicated to the best-being, where you can find more than a hundred master classes, led by experts, available on Marie-Claude.com. The table games Open Your Original Game and the Couples edition are available everywhere in Quebec and on Randolph.ca. I've been waiting for a long time. When I wanted to invite Liz, well, you know, she was sick. And it's open your game, we have to do that when we're in health, psychological and physical,
Starting point is 00:07:58 because it's delicate. It's like the dental opens your game. And I'm always afraid that if the person is less fragile or if they can't do it for two hours, it's still long too. I don't want to force things. So there, she said yes to this invitation. In addition, on stage, I think it's a gift for all of us. I'm very, very happy and I know how much you are too. So I'm going to ask her to join us, Madame Lise Dion. I'm going to go. Yes, okay. It's not working. Yes, it works. I wanted to tell you, I'm happy, but I haven't forgotten.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh! I'm happy to see you, I'm happy to be here, because I miss you a lot. I mean, it's a lot of fun at home, but it would be fun if you were there too, you know, and we talk, we make toasts, we laugh, so I'm really happy to be here, and here are some things you don't know. Awww! Well... Well, the ice is broken. Yes, the ice is broken. It's a room you like a lot here.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Oh my God, so much. When you go to play at Gatineau, I have that, especially with Dave, because Dave is coming next week, Dave Fenley. Yes. So I said to him, you'll see Gatineau, there's drugs under the seats. You're so in my heart, and it's a great pleasure, I'd just come to see shows on the stage, just to find the atmosphere you give us when we're on stage. You're so generous, it's a great pleasure to come to Gatineau. But, you know, we can't say it too much.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You have to be careful with other cities, you can't say, oh Gatineau, yes, Gatineau is fun. It's great. How are you doing, les dions? I'm better. I have three beautiful stands on my back. It seems like it's rusting. He should have told me, well, I would have said, well, buy it in silver, like that, it won't rust. And no, but I was scared. Seriously, I was scared. What makes me almost cry when I see the sub-materials at this time, I tell myself, I could have been there, you know. It could have ended there.
Starting point is 00:11:11 What's flat is that it happened on stage, you know. That's what's a little flat. But people were super understanding. And I lost my memory, luckily, because there's a neurologist who told me that if I hadn't lost my memory, I would have fallen in the middle of the show. Because you could have continued with a physical illness by having your memory back. Yes, when you do shows, even if everything hurts, you still continue. I had the big pain that lasted like 4-5 seconds, and then I vomited my first meal as a union.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But I have to tell you, women, that's really important. When you do a heart reading, in general, on women, we don't see it in women in the heart disease. So be careful with that. If you ever have this disease, don't trust the ambulance. Go see a doctor because you would have to go right away. The nurses told me, you want to see them at the hospital? Because I don't see anything on the reading. And it's Claudia who was there, my daughter, who is nurse. She said no to IVA because she lost her fever.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I did it 330 times and I forgot it. Because I had to lack oxygen in my brain. Imagine, you were at your limit, limit, limit. Oh yes, I was at my limit. Lacking oxygen in the brain, it can't last long and not often. No, that's it. But I was afraid of the AVC because I think the heart is so advanced at this age, I'm not a Alzheimer's patient. And you left the stage that way? Yes, I left the stage. There were 17 shows left in the 4th round, but it ended up being a good time.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I had so much energy after that. I was at the hospital in intensive care, and he came in to tell me, Mrs Dion, we're going to take your vital signs. I said, it bothers me to take my arm, but we'll keep sleeping, okay? I was really tired, really, really tired. Well, you know, I'm 69 years old, so it's those things that are energy, you know. It's like, you know, we want to make you so happy, we want to give you so much, we want to give you everything,
Starting point is 00:13:46 that when you do three shows a week, it turns into a moment because you can't say, OK, the Thursday night show is going to take me calmly. It's going to retain my energy because there are two others left. It's not true. You go in and it's always, Hello! It's always the same thing. You can't retain yourself. It's impossible. Because all the people who are going to see you, it's the first time they see you.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Exactly. And you can't forget it. And the trips, the tour, it's a lifestyle. And do you know what I thought was hard? The hotel rooms. You know, the hotel rooms, when you're on vacation, it's fun. But when you're waiting for the show, I can't go... Like in Gatineau, if I come in the afternoon, I'll go see who's at home, where's mom going? So I'm alone in the room.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I can't do sports that could hurt me for the evening. I have to do my little afternoon nap. You know, it's like... It's not trying to make me do that, for example. I get bored of the public, but not doing the laundry, doing the laundry, doing the laundry. I'm not able to do that anymore. I have no energy to do that. My back is in compote, and they told me about facetam treatments. I'm afraid they'll prick me in the spine and I'll be in a wheelchair afterwards. I'm not afraid of that. Are there any risks?
Starting point is 00:15:06 I don't think so, because they're doing the x-ray now. But that's not... You're not in there. No, but here, we Quebecers, I think we're strong enough to take care of ourselves. Mentally?
Starting point is 00:15:22 No, no, take this, it'll pass. Put on some jeans, take a layer of mustard, so... A little bit of Vicks. No, it's not a layer, it's a layer of mustard. Oh yes, the misery to breathe. Put Vicks in your ass. Put a onion roundel, put mustard. Well, it doesn't work long. No, but you're right. Well, yes, we are tough towards mustard.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I told my doctor again, because she said, she called me this week, she said, Lee, I have no results for your blood test. Well, he's not going to be there. They're going to be mad. Yeah, I know. Do you want us to talk about something else? Yes. It would be fun because otherwise I would get a cramp.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yes, but you have to pass your blood tests. Yes. It's easy. She told me to go see a physio for my back. Yes, and then you go? Go do some physio. No. I said, don't give me any more discipline.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I won't. Next year, but it doesn't bother me. But it's to do you good. Yes, but I like to sleep at home and I'm dead. I don't like to be photographed and cracked. And then... You look like a rebel. Yes, I'm a rebel.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Since my menopause, I'm a rebel. Before, I was a little mutant. Ah, girls too! Ah, yes, I'm happy! Oh no, I was a little mute. Ah, the girls too! Ah, yes, I'm happy! Oh no, I'm a rebel, ready to fight. Listen... You shouldn't imagine an old person, a child or an animal in front of me. I can fight.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Did you do it? Have you ever done it? No. When the person saw my eyes, when it happened, she understood that I shouldn't have been there. So you have authority? Oh yes, I have authority now. I didn't have it before. Since you're a rebel? Since I'm a rebel. It has positive sides, to be a rebel.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yes. But tell me what you think too. I told my dealer when I changed my winter tires. I told him I had a nice car, I'm going to change my tires. They didn't put all the bolts on one wheel. Let's say there are five, I had one hundred. And this truck cost me 900$ per month. So I went to see the guy at the service and I said, excuse me, I need four bolts on my wheel. Are you telling me, the message is that you pay 900$ to play with your life?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Is it like taking a gun with bullets and doing... The roulette wheel? The roulette wheel, because and doing... The Russian roulette? The Russian roulette because my wheel looked like a Russian roulette. I was just... And he does... Click-clink, click-clink. But it doesn't make sense, it's not logical. When there are things that are not logical, it's a lie.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Did he listen to you? Oh yes, this morning he told me, It's not logical. When there are things that are not logical, it's a mess. Did he listen to you? Oh yes, he waited for me and said, maybe the guy was joking and put the balls in a plate. Excuse me? It's not like an excuse. I said, when I do my shows, I'll go to the audience. Well, the last 30 minutes he's back order, I didn't tell them. Can't you do that to my audience.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You're killing me with my wheel. No way. I can't. I can't hear that. Did they do it at least? Yes, they did. Sometimes you wouldn't have said it before. That's right. I would have said,
Starting point is 00:19:02 last time it was rusty. No, no. Now it's because last time, it was a mess. No, no, no. Now, now, it's going to be fine. I said, put some candles in the steering wheel and I wouldn't say a word. No, well, guys think we don't know that about cars. We know that much more than they think. And they look at us right away. Anyway, I don't have to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Are you ready to open your game? No. Hey, don't talk about that. Okay. We're talking about what you want. The green level is general order. The yellow level. That's the general order. The game is made for you, but these questions could come back in almost all games. You just printed it for me.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yes, yes. Did you use the cards? No, you're going to leave with... No, you're going to leave with... For real? Yes, you're going to leave with you. Each game is unique. There are questions that come back from game to game, but this mix is yours.
Starting point is 00:20:08 This choice. Okay, general order. This is more specific. More specific? Yes, it's starting to be personal. Is it me who chooses specific? You will see, you will choose in each color. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:20 This is personal. Okay. This is the Spice Man question, for Patreon subscribers, which is a place where those who listen to a lot of podcasts subscribe. So there is a level, in the Open Your Game, there is a Spaceman level. This is the question of the public, because the public put questions in a box and we will see, sooner or on, there's a box that will come and you'll get it. There's a public level, that's only here. The erotic and companion level. Oh my God, that's going to be flat.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It's going to be a little flat. It's still funny, it's still funny. That's the last question, Optorhizo, the one that makes it all end in soft end softly is a joker. When you're too... When you're in the subject, you put the joker and it stops. I saw it in your show, there were people who gave it to you. Yes, you're allowed to use the joker. I don't like it, otherwise it's not true. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I know you don't like that. No, but no, on the contrary, because the joker allows me to ask the questions I want to ask by saying, if it doesn doesn't work, it stops. It's a protection. There's no fear if we go where we want to go. We'll go pretty far. Green level. I'll choose one from the inside.
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Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm not doing that yet, but maybe. Here we go. Perfect. Two, three, four, five. Perfect. I'm going to read them to you. What makes you vulnerable? You choose one and I'll choose another.
Starting point is 00:23:04 What makes you vulnerable? What kind of child were you? Which person made a difference in your life? When I look in the mirror, I see. And on what character traits did you have to work? That's all? Yes, you chose one. Oh, I chose one! Yes, you chose one and then I chose another one. I will take what makes me vulnerable. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Because I said it earlier, it's the elderly, children and animals. And every time we lose an animal, it makes me really, really vulnerable. I'm afraid of losing my dog. He's 8 years old, and I pet him, and there are bugs everywhere, and I don't like that. So, it makes me very vulnerable. I find that old people are so lacking. It's the bottom of Quebec's soil. They are not treated as false.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm really against it. In summer, they have the trouble of having a fan. When they are demunized with Alzheimer's, it's like we forget the shadow of the person. It became a shadow, I think. And we don't care about it. But even if we repeat what she said, it's okay. She's still there, she's still with us. It's not just a mannequin. And the children, I think we should reinvent the couvants, not the couvants, but the places where we could take a child out of the DPJ.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Well, to accompany them in there. What I mean is that when there is a poor child, even if we call the DPJ, they can't get out of the house right away, unless there's a family to welcome them. I would build a place where we would welcome them, while waiting for us to find a good family for them. Because I was adopted, so maybe it's a bit of a lie, but... And you know, I looked at my baby's picture, I don't understand how she abandoned me, I don't understand. I was a smiling baby, the fun. I looked like the fun. I can't understand that. If your mother gives you something, she cuts you off. Does abandonment feel part of your whole life? Oh, so much! I even put bricks on my houses so they don't fly away, just to have roots somewhere.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And you have a real sense, when you say bricks, it was solidity, no matter the temperature, the weather, it will stay there. Exactly, exactly. It marks, but at the same time it doesn't stop you from living. Imagine if I hadn't been there. Imagine if Morgan Taylor had finished her studies when she came to the world, she would have been made to abort. Imagine if she had had cash, she would have been in New York to get abort. But I'm still a little bit going. When does it come back to you? It comes back to me when I see an abandonment, when I tell you, have you listened to the show with Guylaine Tremblay, how she had adopted an Asian popon.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Annie and her men. Exactly. One evening they said, let your daughter cry. It's okay if she cries. You'll spoil her if you go get her. The little one cried and cried. Guylaine did a great job in the passage because she didn't want to go get her. At one point she didn't hear anything. So she thought the little one had fallen asleep. She went back to her room and the little one
Starting point is 00:27:07 fell asleep. I think I fell asleep a lot because I love falling asleep chairs. And I think that when you're a child, you do it yourself to fill something up. So when I saw the little one falling asleep, I cried for an hour. An hour crying like crazy. It was a comfort gesture. Exactly. But you don't immediately notice that you're living with that. It's when you're in a moment where you see someone in distress, it goes up and you're unable to control it.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And having children, are they repairers? incapable de le contrôler. Et avoir des enfants, est-ce que c'est réparateur? Ah tellement, tellement. Moi il n'y était pas question que j'en ai juste un. Je voulais en avoir au moins quatre. Si j'avais eu le bon mari, j'en aurais eu au moins quatre, mais on ne faisait pas une bonne équipe. Et puis, j'ai été chanceuse. J'ai eu une fille et un gars. Et écoute, quand je les regarderais quand ils étaient petits, So I was lucky. I had a girl and a guy. And listen, when I would look at them when they were little,
Starting point is 00:28:08 seeing their complicity, I wanted to cry. I thought it was so beautiful. And at the same time, if I disappear, they will be able to tell themselves, the naysayers I did, you know. They will say, wait, do you remember when you did that? So they won't be alone. It's important for me that they're not alone. When your parents died, did you feel alone? Yes, I felt alone, especially when my father died. He died at 43 and he was my great ally. He was the one who hid my gaffes, who cleaned me before my mother arrived. When he left, I looked into Armand's eyes because I don't think she wanted to adopt me. She was 10 years older than him, she was 53. I was 9 when he left,
Starting point is 00:28:56 so I felt that it wasn't what she wanted. It was with him that she would continue her life, not me. It was in her eyes. But well, it doesn't matter, I survived. Was it like, even if it wasn't for your father, it was still a feeling of abandonment? Well, yes, I've lived through a lot of feelings like that. I'm used to it. I don't have any more, really.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But it's been a long time since I was single. That's why I told you that sexism would be flat. But it doesn't bother me. I learned to live with my loneliness before. I didn't care that I lived alone. And now I can go to the restaurant alone, to the cinema alone, to the theater alone. It didn't bother me at all. I'm very good with that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 The other day I was at the restaurant and I was eating at the bar. And a lady said, Well, Liz, you're alone on Friday night, come eat at our table. It's too pity. I said, I'm not going to feel sorry for you. If I had a partner next to me who would hit me in the face, it wouldn't be fun. But, me, even if I tell you that as I get older, I have less and less desire to be with someone. Because you become demanding as you get older. I think I would be a good partner, but...
Starting point is 00:30:26 Maybe not in a daily life? Yes, in a daily life, I wouldn't have patience. That's it. No. And my mother, naturally, said, if you think about my age, I'll start seeing a guy who pees next to the bowl and I'll pick it up. Well, you're right. I already pee regularly before I get in the bowl. Liz told you... Once in Florida, I really wanted to pee.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I peed in a public parking lot. When I turned around, there was a camera. Did you write, forbidden to pee in a public parking lot? No. You were allowed to. But the guy, he didn't recognize me when I went to the gate, because it's not my fault. That makes me sweat, old lady. The old lady who's always on the ground.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I don't understand that. It doesn't make sense. Liz mentioned earlier that the elderly, including those who were affected by Alzheimer's, felt vulnerable. Is that something you're afraid of in your life? Yes. It doesn't do me any good.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I would be ready to lose other things, but not my head. You know, if I can deal with the doctor... If I can deal with the doctor, you can take my left arm off, I'm not going to get much out of it. No, seriously, losing my head is... And I'm happy that they signed the law that you can ask for love love when you have the Alzheimer's diagnosis and you choose when you won't recognize your children. You choose when you're going to go. Because it's not a life. It's not a life. It doesn't make sense. So I'm really afraid of losing my head. I've lost it a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But she came back. She came back! No, but I understand. And even at Open Your Game, some people said that when the parent didn't recognize them anymore, they weren't going to see them anymore. No. There are some who do that because it's too difficult. But there is a doctor who also said that when you go see your mother, and she has a moment of lucidity, if you go see her every week, and she has a moment of lucidity, she has pain. Because she knows that something is wrong. She sees you for 15 minutes and then she loses it. So when she sees you, she cries,
Starting point is 00:33:20 misery, you know. So you hurt her a lot. You think you're taking care of them, but it hurts when they see you. And I remember Yvonne Deschamps had told me... Hey, I have anecdotes, I'm like Michelle Barrette at this time. Yvonne Deschamps told me... They lost their mother, and her father was killed in the slaughter. And every time he said, where's Louise? Let's put his wife. And then the children said, well, you see, dad is dead. You know, they said, well, you see, Louise is dead. They didn't remember him. So there, they cried every time. So they said, stop, Didi, she's not there. Didi,
Starting point is 00:33:59 go change the bed upstairs. Go do some commissions. It was okay. Did she come back? Did she come back every time she saw the death of that woman? That's it. She would have lived it 50 times. Interesting. We talked about your father earlier. What kind of child were you? I was a clown, that's for sure. You've always been funny like that. I realized when I was young that it's a seduction to make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:34:26 In the sense that my parents used to tease me less, my father used to go out to get some porridge so he didn't tease me, the teachers didn't tease me because at the same time I'm a lunatic so it's like a lease. It's like all the time always lost, always... You know, at school, if they put me on the row or on the trees, I would put a Because I'm not there, I'm not present, and I realized that it's fun to do. I like to do that. Even though it's not because I stopped the scene that I'm doing purée, you know, I'm making people laugh, the doctors, the...
Starting point is 00:35:18 I like to do that. The police. The police? Well, when you stop me for speed, because I do a little bit of speed. It's always your rebellious side. Yes, exactly. And it's something I should be aware of. So you were laughing when you were little. Did you have a lot of friends? Yes, I had a lot of friends because I played once in the ball game in the recreation school and I had the ball in front of me. So I stopped playing the ball game immediately and I brought candy so I had a lot of friends in the recreation school.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Really? Yes, I gave them wine cans. And you, you were a child? Yes, I was unfortunate with the religious fathers. Yes. They were really not faithful. How old were you at that time? I was in the first year, second year, seven, eight.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And then, at nine, when my father died, my mother said, you won't take any little books that we were depositing 25 cents a week. The popular cash register? The popular cash register. Yes, the small bank book, the bank bank receipts. That's it. So, my mother said, your father is dead, so we're all going to cut those things, OK? Go and tell your sister. So, she said, you take, Miss Dion, you don't take the bank account for the cash?
Starting point is 00:36:47 I said no, mom said, your father is dead. So she said, what did she say? She said, you had to spend Kleenex? I wanted to jump in front of him. But there was the great Nicole, who was been in the same year for three years. So the day when the sister of the sister is dead, we were there to see her. We said to her, you must have spent some money. That's bad. You don't call that a child.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And because my mother came to take me back to school she would call me the 7th wonder of the world. Let's see. Because the other parents weren't going? Well, it doesn't look like it. I didn't notice if the parents were going. Because the school was next to us, once. My mother wouldn't have come and take me to school. But I was in my first year.
Starting point is 00:37:41 You were very young. Yes, I was young. She didn't want me to walk down the street alone. And then, well, he called me the eighth Wonder of the World. After that, my mother made me clothes. But my mother was very colored in her fabric. I, who didn't want to go to Saint Cognito, I always had the look of a box of colored prismes. OK, it was at that point, I mean, it was... of Prismacolor. Ok, so that was the point.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I mean, it was a flashback. So the religious people were like, my god, did your mother wear your dress in Hawaii? You know, you're telling this to everyone. That's why I tell you I was often crushed in my war. I got out. Did you feel like you were part of the gang? Did you feel like you were different, for example, when you arrived in the couvern? No.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It was just the religious people, it wasn't in the school. Oh yeah. And my mother, who was religious, my adoptive mother, at one point they beat me up for a mess and she went went to school. And the thing was, a crisis, you're going to leave her alone, or I'll tear your cornice off you. And then, well, after that, I was pretty much possessed by the religious. And when your father died, you were 9 years old. Yes. How old were you after his death? Did you feel like you were getting older?
Starting point is 00:39:10 I was watching my mother. I was afraid she would get old too. She died of a heart attack. There was no sign of a heart attack. I came home from school. My mother arrived at the same time as me. We opened the door and she was lying on the ground. No signs of running, she was in a bad shape, three weeks before. My mother told me that later, but she was like, OK, she's dead. She was the one who came to get her.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Not even the ambulance. So, I said, OK, you can lose a parent quickly. So, it means that my mother can leave quickly too. So I went to see her at night, she was breathing. It was not the right time. It's like it was the end of childhood. Yes. You take your responsibilities quickly.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Because she was on the ground. She was on the ground, on the ground, on the ground. The three days of the night salami, at that time it lasted three days. They gave me pills, I didn't recognize them anymore, I was amorphous, she didn't see anything. And during that time, there were people in the family who saw my father's wardrobe. It's something, huh? But it's certain that I wasn't a child.
Starting point is 00:40:25 If you arrived quickly. Yes. In a sense of responsibility. Yes. You were busy becoming the mother of your mother. Yes, because she was so spoiled that I had to think quickly, mature quickly. Because she, listen, for a year she put the table to my father for a year and then we found the place where he fell so he wouldn't fall on his arm or whatever. Do you feel like it's the first time in your life that you really stop?
Starting point is 00:40:57 That I really stop? Yes. And I... you know, once I saw a lady in a CH... SLT? SLT. And she was crying, she was crying. She said, I want to go to my house, I want to see my children. And I said to the nurse, has she just arrived? She said, no, no, she's been crying for two years. Two years. I said, no. I'm going to get a condition right away.
Starting point is 00:41:31 If my children don't have time to take care of me, I'm going to sit down with you and we're going to play ball, okay? I don't mind. But I wouldn't wait for the children so that my life would be something. I liked that too when Jeannette said the other day, even if I grow old until I'm 100, I'm the one who makes the decisions. I'm the mother. No one has the right to decide my place. I love my children, but I wouldn't let them decide, for example, to stay in a basement, you understand? But I said to my daughter, I'm not ready for the basement yet.
Starting point is 00:42:10 But it wouldn't bother me to stay in the basement. With your consent. Yes. In old age, what scares me is losing my autonomy. Because I think everyone has... Autonomy is freedom. When you are swept away somewhere, you have your autonomy, you have your car, you go away.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That's what I told my children. Bear nothing that you are not able to bear. When someone humiliates you, when someone treats you like shit, take your car and go away. It's like... I can't stand the humiliation anymore. At some point in your life, would you have left? So much. So much.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Some weird things happened. And I don't want to talk about it right now because there are too many... There is someone involved and I don't want to... I will stop if I don't want to say it. But it's still without naming anyone, but what you're saying is true? Yes. Because you've lived it and you wouldn't necessarily want others to live it? No, and I don't want women to live it either.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But when the right time comes, comes, I will talk about it. It will free you. It will free me. Because if I got out of that situation, there are plenty of women who are capable too. Little by little. One box by box. One sack by sack. I was telling you because your current stop, the time you take for yourself, you never had any since you were 9.
Starting point is 00:43:50 No, and I started working at 13. I didn't tell my children that I hadn't done my high school. I stopped in the 6th year. So I worked in a shop at 13. I didn't even have my social security card yet. It stays here. Did you wish for that to stop? To breathe? A little. It's energy, it's not the beauty of the job that does that. But it's not just about you. When you start out so young, there's always something, there's always something. Yes, after that there's success, but even in success it's something too. Yes, but my mother lived until she was 80, I had my children, so it was, you take care, you take care, you take care, you take care.
Starting point is 00:44:36 When my mother left, well, I worked, worked, worked, I worked at the Duncan, monoparental, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to pay rent. You had a lot of responsibility. You had a lot of responsibility. Yes. And then I stopped. But I'm not yet in the mood to take care of myself. Not yet. Not quite. I'm not in that mood. It's only been a year and a half since I stopped. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:03 So I get up in the morning, I look at my agenda, there's nothing, okay. So I'm going to wash, read, I'm going to do the dress-up, it doesn't get old. At some point, I started reading a lot, and in the summer I read a lot. And having a book for me is an escape, like a movie, the same thing.
Starting point is 00:45:22 So I don't think about anything, I think about myself, I sit down, I read my book. That's a great happiness for me. Go ahead, magazine it too. Yes. Yellow level. Oh my God, is that sexy? No, it's pink. No, no, it's pink. That's more specific. You're going to give me three, we're going'll answer only one question from the New York Times today. I'm going to give you three. Yes, you'll give me three, you'll answer one, you'll choose.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Ah, okay. What am I going to choose, three? Yes, you gave me two. I don't understand, Mrs. Barrette. Okay, you're giving me another question. I'm going to read them to you. I'm going to read you three. And I...
Starting point is 00:46:04 You choose one. Well, yes. We are not in a hurry, Liz. I hope so. What did you not receive from your parents that you missed? You will choose one. Ok, I have to choose one. Hey, what a game of understanding.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Are you the mother you would have liked to have? How did your relationship with money evolve over time? First of all, money, I never talk about that. I think I gave my children the mother I would have liked to have. Because we have a lot of fun together. They are my best friends. We have a sense of humor. ensemble. C'est mes meilleurs amis. On a un humour, les trois, quand on est ensemble, on a un humour vraiment génial, tu sais, un humour qui se connecte ensemble. Puis je les
Starting point is 00:46:55 ai pas achalé souvent, tu sais, plus discussion, plus you arrived from school and they were carrying their school bags, and they went to their room, I was waiting for it to go down, I was waiting for the fire to go down, and then I told them, it's not going, there's something wrong, so it was pretty much it. But Hugo, he was moving a lot, he was more like, hmmm, the same. So when you saw me, hmmm, you know, because he knew he had to stop. But, and my children never got angry. It's funny, you know, that Claudette would say, well, Hugo, he's ruined my things, never, never, never, never.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And she feels responsible for her brother too, it's really nice to see her, you know. And I don't want her to become my mother, for example. I don't want her to become my mother, for example. I don't want her to become my mother. Why don't you want her to become your mother? Because it's not her role. It's not her role. The children are ready, you take advantage of them while they're there, but it won't be long for me to make the decision.
Starting point is 00:48:00 When things don't go well, if I can't get a haircut, I'll go to the Nazi myself. Because I can't, in my head, I can't let my children be my mother. I made them my mother with my mother. You made them your mother, and what is so troubling for you, to prefer to die than to be taken care of? Because, for me, the image of my mother is a strong woman. She fought the war, four feet and 11 energy. She was not strong for a couple of years because of my father's death, but she is a strong woman. At one point I said to myself, we we should deposit your old check in your account, because you're staying in the city center and someone could take your money when you go to the safe. »
Starting point is 00:48:50 She said, « I'm complaining about the three little dots that are going to take my money. » I said, « Why down the fort? » She was attracted to the language of a German during the war, so she doesn't think she's defending herself against her. But I saw her strength go away, and I didn't want to see her strength go away. I needed her to be a pillar, but she was strong until she was 80. She left the hospital and the mother, she had cancer, she got out of it and then she died slowly, slowly, slowly at home. What do your children bring you? Oh my God, so much happiness, but at the same time, what we just talked about is that I let them breathe.
Starting point is 00:49:44 My daughter stays next door to us, she was buying at home next door to us. I said, I will always wait for you to tell me, come on, let's go for a ride. I would never go without that. I would never go to your place. I would never get, you know. I'm a horse, when it comes down, it comes down. But I need others, but I'm able to respect the distance. There's no trouble with that. I have other things to do, anyway. I'm always busy, all the time, all the time, all the time. Do you know what I did the other day?
Starting point is 00:50:30 I don't know if I had already done that. Make a list of friends you shouldn't neglect. Because when you never call someone, you don't call them anymore. But I have so much knowledge of it too. I say, well, I'll have to have lunch with Alain, another Alain I'll have to have lunch with. But I don't have time to do all of that. But I counted on it. You know, the old people with whom I started the world, all of that.
Starting point is 00:50:57 François Léveillé, Louise Richer, Yvon Deschamps. I said to myself, OK, now I have to call Yvonne, I have to call Louise, I have to call... But it's a job! Does it bring you something? Yes. When you talk to them, do you tell them, hey, it's time? Well yes, we have fun, you know how we have fun at some point. We are up to 4 in the morning, we have not been reasonable.
Starting point is 00:51:21 But it's so nice, but it's because you don't force yourself to do it at that moment, like when you don't take care of yourself. But that's taking care of yourself, I think, already, to make a list and to go to the end, because it brings something to you. You know, it's good. You meet someone and you say, hey, let's's go eat!» And you don't go. You don't put a date, you don't go. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:51:48 You always find good things to do. Or one evening, when you were supposed to go to someone's dinner, you burn your ass and it doesn't wait for you to leave your house. But you have to go out because after you go to bed, we had a good time. Once we're there. Once we're there. Once you're there. It's from the couch to the chair at the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:52:09 It's like the stage. Me, leaving the couch, taking off my jacket, going to the theater. It was hard. But once I was at the theater, once I got back on stage, I was like, hello! I was no longer tired, no more. I was going to ask you to bring me to the public level. I'm going to ask that we bring up the public level. We're going to do the public question. I talk a lot, huh?
Starting point is 00:52:30 No, not at all. But Lee, I mean, to have seen you with your children, the relationship you have with your children is extraordinary to see too. It's beautiful, huh? The collegiality, you know. You also experienced a lot together. You are like a team. A team, exactly. When I won the first trophies...
Starting point is 00:52:58 You gave them beaks in the back of the room. I gave them beaks to them before I went to get the trophy. I think we had never seen this before think we never saw that before and never saw that again. No. It's important because everything we went through together to get here, to get a trophy from the record company, I worked as a salesperson at the bank, and I won a trophy at the record company. I had won once the medal of dignity and they took it off after a week.
Starting point is 00:53:29 They took it off. The only trophy I had won. So I won a Felix. Ayo! Ayo! And already, I've made the assessment since I quit 37 years ago. And all the people who made me dream, I would have talked to them now. I celebrated Saint Agathe's 50th anniversary, the Patriot. There was Charles Le Bois, Diane Dufresne, Yvonne Deschamps, Louis Forestier, Nomelet. They were all there, I was like, I was on fire with them. I had the taste for armor.
Starting point is 00:54:11 But Liz, you kept this precious thing, the ability to wonder. Yes, and I hope I will never lose it. But that's what differentiates you from many people, that they lose it with time. I'm happy because... Because you still appreciate those moments, you don't say, well... You're not blased. No, no, no, I'm not blased at all. And the day I'm going to be, someone is going to slap me. I don't like that, the world that is blased. There are a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I don't have blased friends. I'm not able to. I don't like that. By the way, those who make me sweat a little, now I tell them to make me sweat. And I tell them, this career is not going to do that. I don't like that. By the way, those who make me sweat a little, now I tell them to make me sweat. And I tell them, this career is ephemeral. So if you're not honest with the audience, stop it right now. Stop it right now because the audience will see it. The audience is brilliant.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Exactly. Do you want to talk about the audience? Yes, I want to add 5 cards? 5? Yes. 1. I think I have 6. 5.
Starting point is 00:55:13 No, I have 6. I didn't see the names, I didn't put the letters. I'm going to put mine so you can read them because it's written by hand. Ok, let's go. You will choose one. The question from Charlene. What is your essential destination or the one you want? I will read it for you. Marjolaine. According to you, what is the role of humour today in an era where everything is polarized. Joanie, do you have advice for someone who suffers from anxiety? Thank you, Lise, for everything, for your whole career. I adore you.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Lisa, how have you lived the fact of having to take a new turn in your professional life? I adore you. Lise, her name is Lise, what is your most beautiful experience, whether it is personal or professional? Well, the last one is the coolest in my memory. The experience is the 37 years of career. Which makes me the most happy because when I did the first number for Duncan, I didn't think it would last 37 days. What were you waiting for at that moment?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Just to try to make it happen. But you didn't plan ahead? No. In the future? No, not at all. I said, let's try it. And it was Yves Rousseau, the one who was saying goodbye to the Mastroméaménie sword, I don't know if that tells you you, who died about a month ago.
Starting point is 00:56:45 He was the one who gave me my chance, he said to me, why don't you come and tell your story on stage? And I said, well, you know, we have to take a subject, a university, something. He said, no, you come and tell your story, and I'll introduce you to Louise Richer. So I tried it, but it was all the time I tried it.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And the other contracts, I said said yes, I have to go. So it was just that. It was not... Oh no, I'm going to become that and I'm going to play in Europe. When I got the phone to pay tribute to Gad Elmaleh, to Michel Drucker, I fell off the cart. Because you went to Paris. Yes. On the plateau of Michel Drucker. I fell in the car. Because you went to Paris? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:25 On the set of Michel Druecker. I was on the set, rehearsing, in the afternoon. I said, how is it going to make you listen to me come here? It's going to make you a check, but it's going to come back to us. I'm too nervous, I wouldn't be able to do it. It was Michel Druecker who came to calm me down. He was an art man. A human art man. Human, human, human, like that, I can't.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And he told me, Lise, we're recording, if you make a mistake, we'll start again, it's okay. I said, I'm not able to do it. Listen, I was in the lodge and in the intro, I was passing by, I was like, I'm so tired of losing, young Moro, what am I doing here, you little long-eyed ass. Yes, I'm ashamed, you know? But it was great. Why were you there? Because it's Gadel Malek. I was paying tribute to Gadel Malek, who put me on a list like the France show.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Like in the winter? Yes, exactly. That's incredible. It's not good blood. It's a great experience. Yes, but then I went to play at Point Virgule during a small festival. It was Anne Aumannov who was my mother. That's in Paris?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yes, that's at... Point Virgule is a small theater with about 120 seats. It took six seconds and I missed them. Because I told them, on the way back, you think I'm related to Céline, you know, my name is Dion. So I said, well, that's it, I'm her beautiful brother. It was like, wha, like a rat! So I had them in my pocket, and I would have told them about the punch. But I, well, yes, and I thought the French weren't able to say that we saw them all naked in the movies all the time.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But then I was talking about the handkerchief and you were like... Oh! You were talking about the vibrator. Did you find the handkerchief? No, no. Well, it seems that if you calculate your vagina like a clock, you would find it in 2 hours and 10, 2 hours and 15. But that's it, I had the dead arm at 4 o'clock. He's probably still at the customs. And it's going to cost me 25% tax to get them.
Starting point is 00:59:56 When you were at Pointe-Virgule, they put this taste of Pointe-G. They loved it. But they were like... Yes, it's true, you saw their more pudgy side, to name things, what they were going to look at. And then one day they asked me for autographs and I said, I don't know why you're asking me for autographs, I wouldn't come back. And why did you make the choice not to go back? Because when you try your career in France, it's at least two years of isolation. If I had my children, I wouldn't be able to. Because you have 18 households to tell them you want to do them. But you would still do Michel Droucas have
Starting point is 01:00:40 nothing to say. You have to do everything, radio, all the... Yeah, yeah, radio, everything. It's work. I spoke with Stéphane and Anthony Cavanaugh, they had some boring parts in Tabarouet. You're not at home, you have to fight with the Parisians all the time. I had some fun. You know we have a lot of Parisians who watch the podcast. Yeah, but...
Starting point is 01:01:06 So they will... No, but I love that because they often agree with what we say. Well, yes, but people told me, Liz, you shouldn't judge France like that. There's Paris and there's France. But at the same time, Paris, I understand them. If the population is only a fifth in the Tannetourism, they must be tanned, rare, you know, but hey. But already when they understand butter, it's good because often they speak to us in English, they think we speak in English. Yes. It happened to me so often, they brought me the menu in English. Oh damn. I thought, but why, well, it would be better,
Starting point is 01:01:40 huh, you speak English. I never thought it would be better. My God, when I speak English, right? I'm sure you're right. When I speak English, I look like I'm making cement. You know how cement comes out of the truck's mouth? It's the worst when I speak English. What did you say? We were at the customs together, and the customs officer asked you in English what you were doing in life. Did you answer, were you a comic girl? I said, no, I'm a stand up comic. And he said, ok, give me a joke.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Hey, damn girl! I said, well, it's always my joke in English. I buy G-string. I bought a G-string. I bought a G-string. And I never found it. Laurie didn't let me have it. At that time, I didn't say that anymore. I said comedian. Because it's always waiting for jokes.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Because it always makes you laugh. So, looking at your career, you say France is your choice. You say it's too much personal investment in time. And André Gagnon, the pianist who left, he asked me, what does it give you in France? You have your audience here, your audience, you make them laugh here. Why do you prove yourself as a Judeo-Christian? You absolutely have to make the French laugh.
Starting point is 01:03:12 You know, the French have very good humorists. I love the French humor, you know. I think of Florence Forestier, Blanche Cardin, you know. But it's true that it's not necessary that I go to Paris to prove to myself that I'm able to make France laugh. And I don't have the energy to do that. Do something, do something. But when you look at it, because the question is personal and professional.
Starting point is 01:03:43 It's the best experience, whether it's personal or professional. But when I listen to you, you just talked about Andrie, the pianist, the great pianist we had. I have the impression that there are several people in the public personalities of Quebec, of different generations, who have been there for you, who have believed in you, mentors, and who wanted the best for you. I feel like we were very caring towards you. Am I wrong? No. They are all mentors. One day I had a show at the Esporé festival. I still had the feeling of an impostor. When I arrived in the lodge, Dominique was there and she said,
Starting point is 01:04:27 You're part of the gang now. Dominique Michel? Dominique Michel, yes. She said, You're part of the gang. Stop doing that. Stop talking about you're not good. So I bought myself a leather coat and I'm in a gang. No, but it's important what you say because sometimes we have the impression that everyone feels comfortable in the environment. You know, I've heard that from actors, singers, comedians, animators, you know, you start something. It's hard to say, okay, now I'm assuming it. Oh yeah, it's hard to assume. It takes time. It really takes a lot of time.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And it's not a job for me to party. For me, humor is a job to meet, first of all, with people, with the show business world as well. But you know, I've always been the best seller. And I still hold on to a restaurant when the service is overflowing, so I don't get hit by it. And I want to stay that girl. Because you see that. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And I want to stay that girl. And when I'm with great people in this world, I try to stay the most normal, not play a role. You know, at one point Diane Justard invited me to dinner and at one point Luc Plamondon was there, you know. I was like, I was looking at Luc and I was like, well, I can't believe I was on the same table as Luc Plamondon. And then he says to me, what's your new number? It was a number on the CHSLD, exactly. So I said,
Starting point is 01:06:08 OK, I can do a little bit of it, Luc. But I don't see you doing a song with that. Everyone was looking at me and saying, have you heard of Luc Plamondon himself? And when I saw him again, then he took me in his arms, he hugged me hard. I didn't play a role with him because I owe nothing to Luc and he owes me nothing either.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I'm not going to go see him. You shouldn't let yourself be impressed. Could you write a song for me? Never. And if you could write one? Well, I would learn, for sure. For sure, but I'll never ask him for that. Never. But I like that. You know, like Michel Louvin, I met him maybe two years before his death.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I was so happy to meet him. It was because of Dionne Schutte. And then I said to him, someone came to talk to me and I said, get out of my shower immediately. I don't know you. So Michel, when someone came to talk to him, I said, I don't know you, get out of my shower immediately.
Starting point is 01:07:07 He was talking to everyone all night, but that was a part of me that took over. You understand? I was happy that he cared for my business. I met some beautiful people, really, really, really, really. Because I have the impression that he believed in you, but they also saw the beautiful person you are. Yes, but they are my idols. When I saw Daniel Belanger for the first time, I was in the house, I said, I'm sorry, I'm already telling my friends that I'm playing hockey with you on Friday night. So it surprised him, and the communication came right away.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Without playing the role of, oh Daniel, you know, to crush me or pretend it's the end of the world. Are you going to write a biography of your life? I would like that to give women and men the chance to see that we can change. It's not true that life is over and we accept everything we have accepted. Sometimes you stay because I stayed because you can't... it's wasteful. A life that's not your taste, I think. I think it's wasteful. So, I don't mind not wasting it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 But do you want to give shortcuts to people? Yes. I want to convince them to live. Because, you know, the heart disease, I didn't expect that. Did you have any signs of precursors? Well, yes, I had stomach problems. Be careful with girls. Big stomach problems, now you eat a mouthful of food, you have to go to the doctor, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's a big sign. To women, not necessarily to men. Yes, because you know what you've been through, you know you were a few minutes or a few hours from a potential death. It changes the outlook on the rest of life. Yes, even if I was contemplative before and appreciated what happens to me, it's never to the point of saying, hey, I'm not dead, I'm still there, I can't do things I don't like. It's impossible. It's like, that's waste. To have a little bit of life to do and not do things that tempt you.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Like, I've never done a saloon, for example. Well, the other day I saw a saloon and I tried it, I had never tried a saloon before. Well, the other day I saw a saloon and I was like, I'm going to try it. I've never tried a saloon before. You know, things like that. Did you like trying a saloon? I loved it, but I drove backwards, for example. Yes! But, you know, if someone asks me,
Starting point is 01:10:02 do you do it? I do it. The rest, it doesn't matter anymore. There's a lady, an old lady who said, don't worry about your chadrons being prettier than you. But that means a lot. What a beautiful image. What a beautiful image. I don't care about what's not there. It leaves, your friend calls you, I come to pick you up, we go to a show. Yes, I go, I board.
Starting point is 01:10:28 And the worst thing is that your chaudrons will survive. Exactly. So it's better to take care of yourself. And the children won't have to be given. They will stay there. You understand, they will be in a mess, we don't know where, but if it's a mess, we shouldn't wait. No. And you know, my mother, naturally, at one point, she called me and said, what do you want if I die? Did I make you money?
Starting point is 01:10:50 She said yes, I said, well, Flo Blanc. Flo Blanc, you will give me your recipe book, because I loved her pudding rice. And she had put up a scrapbook with all the newspaper articles, but it's Mom Nature natural, I had no contact with her, but she was putting it up in secret. Oh, it must be precious, you still have it. Oh no, I don't have it. Oh, you don't have it?
Starting point is 01:11:13 No, I don't have it because my cousin is a testamentary ex-actitor and he told me that I didn't have the right to take anything without his consent. So the day of his funeral, not only did she let me down, but he told me that I had nothing to do with it. I called him, I was ready to go home by 2.20. I called him, I said, you know, my man, it took me 40 years before he had a little confidence in me, And you rejected me in front of the whole family today. Rejected another time. I said, take all the things that Roland left you, the money and all that,
Starting point is 01:11:53 and get in between the two asses very solid. And if you see me... yeah. Yeah. And I said, if you ever see me in the car, change the road, because I might get you in. I'm going to have a scrapbooking, a recipe book, Cal... Tar! It deserves a calvaire, I think. A calvaire, but that's over. Oh! It deserves a green card. A green card, come on! But that's over, it's over.
Starting point is 01:12:28 You know, forgiveness, you can't do that. The forgiveness... Yes, talk to me about forgiveness. Someone explained to me that forgiveness means to go over it. I continue to live with all the little scars, but I don't forgive. I have a book of accounting and everything is written. So don't open it because do it slowly,
Starting point is 01:12:54 talk to me as it should be because if I take out the book of accounting... Because you know, some people say, I forgive but I haven't forgotten. But if you don't forget, it's not so much forgiving. I don't forgive. And you don't forget? I don't forget. Do you go back to your past? I go back to that. It's not part of my life.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Unless it comes back, you'll remember it. Yes, if someone makes me follow, that's for sure. But my life, for me, is useful. Before, it was four pictures for a coin, but now it must be five. Oh, the pictures of Rama? The pictures of my grave. My grave, yes. My life, my past, I had been to a therapy and they wanted me to go see the little girl in there.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And I said no. No, no. I don't live all this stuff. I'm going to go get a beer on the terrace, we're going to have fun, I'm going to tell you about it. But I wouldn't go tell you about it. But I'm not going to dig in this city. Hey, a little bit back. And I'm going to dig in there. Another example, I'll give you that. A sandblast. When the sand flows in the middle, what fell, we can't do anything. Is that true or not true? What is important is what flows. The top, we can't on peut plus rien faire. C'est vrai ou pas vrai? Bon. Ce qui est important, c'est ce qui coule. Le dessus, on peut même pas s'en faire. Le dessus du sable, on sait pas ce qui va arriver. On peut pas s'en faire pour ça. C'est pas arrivé. Mais c'est facile à dire.
Starting point is 01:14:17 T'sais, Mme Dion, calmez-vous, là. C'est pas si facile que ça à faire. Mais souvent, je me dis, t'as-tu vraiment quelque chose que tu peux changer, là? Non. It's not as easy as that. But often I wonder if there's really something you can change. I think I said it in the podcast, but I'll remember this sentence. I'm the only one with a blank memory. I'll say the sentence and then I'll remember its name. It's the wife of an former American president. She said, it's really beautiful. Yesterday, it was history. Tomorrow, it's a mystery. Today, it's a gift. That's why we call it the present.
Starting point is 01:14:51 It's beautiful, isn't it? It's very beautiful. That's what you just said. The present, exactly. It's today, you know... And now, we're sitting here with the audience. but I don't think of other people. It's Eleanor Roosevelt. It's Eleanor Roosevelt, the woman from...
Starting point is 01:15:10 Excuse me. I was just... President Roosevelt. But I'm sitting here today, I'm enjoying it. I don't think of, well, we'll have two hours of road... No, no, no, I'm here. I'm here, here, here. And when I'm not here, I'm here. I'm here, here, here. And when I'm not here, I'm like, hey, hello!
Starting point is 01:15:29 Come back with us. Come back with us. But, and it's in the stage, doing my thing, I never thought about my grocery store, that I had a sore somewhere. But I think that the stage is a meditative state, in the sense that you're really in your present moment. Exactly. What he calls when he talks about the full consciousness. Exactly. That's it. Your thoughts pass, but they don't stop. That's it. When you're on stage, you're not... I mean, you're on your X. Everything becomes important.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And if I do something that doesn't tempt me, I look at the time it will take me to do it. I try to do it, say, in an hour or so. I go to the bathroom for an hour and then I stop. But before that, I used to do my cleaning of my 5 and a half, all in the same day. At that time, I thought, okay, I'll take care of the living room. Maybe tonight I'll do a little bit in the wardrobe, but then I'll take care of the living room. And then when it's over, I have less time to sit down with a book. If I do the front door, I give it ten minutes. After that, I stop.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So I find it fun to live alone because I don't know, I didn't think about that before. It's like a mountain corvette all the time. Well, you don't have to do everything on the same day. What is that? Plus, if a friend calls me outside, I'll go and get a coffee. I'll leave the chest there. Leave the chest there? Yes, the chest.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Red level. Is that sexy? No, it's pink. I'm scared. No, don't be scared. It's all soft. It's hard. We've already talked about the G point. Wow, we can't go further than that.
Starting point is 01:17:07 We can't go further than that. Apart from the exam for the Overs. So, what was the most difficult test to overcome? Have you already reached the end of your physical or psychological limits? Have you neglected certain aspects of your life? Did you neglect certain aspects of your life? At one point, I did neglect it. But the most important for me was that I didn't want to go back. It happened in the third round. I had done 514 shows and my head was not able to do it. So on Easter Sunday, I was in my bed and I told my partner at the time, I'm not getting up, it's over, I want to die here, I have no more energy, I have no more juice.
Starting point is 01:17:49 So she said, well, come on, let's see, I have no more juice, I'm not capable. So there she said, well, my aunt made a dinner for Easter, we were going to go. And then I met his uncle who was in the army. He had experienced three plane crashes. He said, I don't know if you pay me, but I'll take two weeks off and I'll be back on time. But he was snoring, the plane was on fire, it was swimming until it couldn't see fire to take a breath. I said, let's see. I realized that when I came back home, I wasn't in good shape. But I...
Starting point is 01:18:38 How do you say that? Temporary. Temporary, exactly. You see the priorities and... But I was really impressed and I think the most dangerous thing is that our body gives us messages we don't listen to. We take care of ourselves with onions down there and that's it. But when your head can't take it anymore, when... When people ask you, let's say, it can be a little niaiserie, if you make us an apple pie and you don't even want to do it,
Starting point is 01:19:11 you don't even want to do it, you don't even want to do it, that's the danger. Because it's not long before the head is loose. If the head is loose, it's dangerous. Mental health is very dangerous and we are not aware of what it can do. But we all go through that sometimes. Yes. When there's pressure coming from everywhere, when you feel like you're pulled forward because you have too much responsibilities, too many expectations. Now...
Starting point is 01:19:45 Do you want to make a report? A report on what you don't like, what you... Because you know, in addition, there, the jobs, the world doesn't engage anymore. Let's say Nicole works with files, Ginette resigns. Then they will say to Nicole, could you replace Ginette, for a little while, we will hire someone else? They don't hire. So there, Nicole is left with two jobs. After that, the other one, who is letting go of the job, who resigns because she is no longer able to be in burnout, they will ask, I don't remember how to call her, Nicole. They will ask Nicole, could you take care of the's case, which started on the 3rd of June?
Starting point is 01:20:26 Yes. And she takes it so seriously. Claudia, my daughter, had a burn-out. She was at the hospital, she worked at Maisonneau-Vosemont, and she couldn't do it anymore. She had become a pregnant woman and it didn't work anymore. So one day she called me and said, I'm going to have a car car accident than go back to work. I said, okay, that's fine. The hospital is not your grandfather.
Starting point is 01:20:49 It's not your grandfather who founded this hospital. Why are you saying that you're not capable anymore? That's enough. So you go to the doctor and the doctor stops her. But when you wake up in the morning and you say that, I would like to have an auto accident, that's the limit. You have to make a assessment. What's wrong? Is there a job I can delegate? Is there a deep conversation with someone? Can I give up toxic friends who take my juice when I almost don't have any? You know, there's a conscience.
Starting point is 01:21:32 You have to see what's going on. I went to see a therapist, I did 10 sessions, and she found out right away what was wrong, and she guided me to change things. And it worked. Yes, because you know, you talk about work, often it's people who are very relieved on Friday and who start feeling less good on Sunday. Exactly. And then they know that Monday is coming, and it's hoped that Friday will come, but at some point it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:22:03 No. Because the energy goes down, and it's not a question of sleeping for a weekend and it will pass. No, no, no, no, no. It happens in a discomfort. Exactly. But it's... it seems that often you have to wait to be at the end. I know. But you have to learn to do that. You have to learn to listen and work for your own happiness.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Sometimes, when we smoked cigarettes, we went outside, and we would take about 10 minutes for ourselves. But when you stopped smoking, you don't do that anymore. You don't take 10 minutes for yourself, but you go to the toilet in the office because you're not capable anymore. So, you have to listen. We don't know how fragile mental health is. Because if you keep your head at the end of the wheel, at some point you'll get out of it. Machines get out of it. How do we...
Starting point is 01:22:58 But we are also in a period of performance. Exactly. And we are always accessible. This was also the case before. You finished working and you went home, apart from typing on the hard line of your house, we receive a text, a call, a phone call. And we feel obliged to respond immediately.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And people expect you to respond immediately. I don't respond immediately and I tell myself that too. You understand? Yes, but look... Because sometimes you're on something and you answer that and you say, no, if I go there, I'm going to get lost. Well, yes. And that's why I think that on a psychological and physical level,
Starting point is 01:23:35 we get tired of that, we come completely to the end. There's something that will have to change. That's why when I told you earlier, when the doctor told me, you have to do some physiotherapy for your back, don't give me a discipline of more, I only did that discipline in my life. So my weight I accept, my back pain I accept, when I would be ready, I would go see a physio. But now you give me one discipline of more than I had, I'm not able to stop asking myself things. Because you've had all your life of the discipline.
Starting point is 01:24:07 That's it. Go and decide for me when I want to go to the physio. Stop giving me nonsense, Colin. Don't try to go. But earlier you said, you know, I was very tired. After that, were you aware of the fatigue that your body had and your head? I would say that it was longer to put me back from that fatigue than the heart attack because the heart attack, it goes into a tube and you have to ping ping ping the springs and it's over. We've suffered much more in life. But the fatigue. Were you aware that you were tired at that point? I didn't think about that. But it's been a while since I talked about it, for example. And then I told my agent, I couldn't even do the 17 shows left. I couldn't do them.
Starting point is 01:24:58 And if you ask me to do them, it's for sure I'm going to a post office. It's for sure, for sure. It's for sure, and I'm sure I'm going to be a nympho, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm not able anymore. But now people are saying, it's not enough that they're not able anymore. Now you're going to start saying, it's going to work. Well, excuse me, I'm leaving this afternoon. Excuse me, I'm going somewhere this afternoon. I couldn't serve you, excuse me. But it's because often, we tell ourselves, take care of each other, and if you say no to something, we won't like it.
Starting point is 01:25:28 While you say no to take care of yourself. So, you have to give yourself more importance. It doesn't mean less to others, but more to yourself. But be frank. If someone calls you and says, Oh Liz, you have to come, I'm in a hurry, I'm burned out, I'm burned out, I can't, I don't want to leave our home. And it's like, yeah, ok, I understand, people understand, you know. Well, they're disappointed, but you can't do everything in life either. But you're really in a turning point in life, in the sense that you don't want to do stage anymore, you don't want to do any show.
Starting point is 01:26:06 You do some stage with Dane Fenley, you go sing. Yeah, but just five shows. It's like an occasional. But do you like this new life, to do something that's not radical, but to keep a presence, to always be in the public eye, but in a different way? Yes, because you know, in the job, when you're tired, you shouldn't show up. Except that when you're not tired and you come to an event, you can have fun, you know? That's what it's all about. But when you're tired, you're like, Yeah, yeah, I have a beautiful childhood. You understand?
Starting point is 01:26:45 But now I have the taste to be there, you know. I find it's... All the difference between... I choose what I do when I have the taste to do it, and I do it. That's all. You look good. Oh, I'm very good.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I have the pink level in front of me, and Ross is with me. You're pissing me off, I have four. Oh, four more. You answer one, you answer one. Unless we answer all, but I find that a lot. Unless what? Unless you want to answer all the questions, but it's a lot. Not in this section, no. I'm not looking at it.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Do you prefer to be seduced or seduced? Is sexuality a taboo subject in your family? Are you comfortable with nudity? What are you looking for in a partner potential? It's not a bad question. The potential for the next partner, I'd like to have a guy who has a heart attack. Don't say that when I take a sip on your back. No, but because he loves life, and he's going to be a Epicurean, and we won't have to stay together, and he'll understand everything. After that, what is it? Nudity, it annoys me to the core. Let's say I have a partner, I bathe in the wardrobe, and I change, I'm ready. Because... Give an example. Wait, wait, give me a microphone, Liz. Liz, take the microphone. Imagine, the one you love, you're in the wardrobe, getting in, tight ass,
Starting point is 01:28:45 and it's overflowing from you, and you have the strength to get in, he opens the door. You look like a nampoule, you know, the ass is there. Never obey in front of a partner. The light must be tamed, that I have placed the drake as it should be.
Starting point is 01:29:07 You know that Marlene Dittrich took three quarters of an hour before making a man enter her room? Yes, madam. Because, don't do anything to me that when the guy opens the door and you're in a pool, he still has the passion. He's still passionate. The breast... It's the one that's attracted to the earth at my age. So I'm going to walk around in my own house. Well, let's see. Let's see. It's not a good thing.
Starting point is 01:29:38 It's not a good thing. So, nudity, no. But yeah, nudity... Not because I'm uncomfortable. Can you turn off the mic? Ok, ok. Do you hear me, Valseau? Wait, nudity... Do you walk naked in your house?
Starting point is 01:29:58 When you're alone? Sometimes, but I have trouble. Do you sleep naked? Yes, that's healthy. A little loose shirt or a little shirt. Because that's healthy. Anyway, if girls sleep with nylon panties, that's murder.
Starting point is 01:30:17 You make nails. When you sleep on a polyester, you make nails. I make nails. Down there. You have to lay down the nun in the air. It's a healthy question. Oh my God! You've learned some things today! Ok, so...
Starting point is 01:30:46 The ring in the air, all the time. You're the one who was afraid of the pink level. So, if you had a potential partner, the walk-in is important. The walk-in is important and that is a heart attack. Those were two criteria. Yes. Ok. Hygiene. I'm a heart attack. That was two criteria. Yes. Hygiene.
Starting point is 01:31:08 But you get caught by a guy who doesn't have teeth and it's not the best. Ok. Earlier, we had Isabelle who told us about sexual toys. Are there any sexual toys? Well, I have a vibrator, that's for sure. I've been alone for 14 years. When it goes up a little, higher, I get a little hug. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I have a Samsung, it's very... I can put photos in it. Oh yes, it was fun on vacation when we were there. I don't know why I was afraid of that section there, but... I find you very comfortable. Not bad, huh? Yes, I like that. It's the age.
Starting point is 01:32:05 You talk about the vibrator. Before, the farms wouldn't have talked about it. It's not been that long since we've accepted that it's true. You're right, but at the same time, we can't hide the truth. Yes, but the first one who told me about it on TV was your friend, Charlie. Oh yes, friend, Shirley. Shirley Theroux. Oh yes, yes, yes. Who had this, with a I don't remember until now, she's older than me, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:32:48 That's a good mentor for me, for example. She explains all the stages of aging. Not the... Do you know what it is to get drunk in water? Milk. But I made money with that. Yes? Yes, because that extract was taken up in several shows and on TV when you're seen or heard,
Starting point is 01:33:18 they have to give you a little cash. And really, that extract was not there because she realized that she knew people, that extract was great because she knew people, there was a discussion, they wanted to go to the hospital. And we were at the break, she waited until the end of the show to reveal the punch. And she said, well, you have to put a finger in the back. We remember the cameraman was there. Who? Who was there to put a finger in the back?
Starting point is 01:33:54 We never knew. I don't know yet. There is still a mystery. We will bring Shirley back. We will bring Shirley back to know what's going on. And what else was there at the end of your lines? I want everything. I want everything. I want everything. Oh, I like that I'm seduced. Do you know why?
Starting point is 01:34:22 No. I like that someone approaches me with humour. So, the potential man has to be funny? Well, yes. But not with humour, but with you. No, not with professional humour. No, but someone who is... Someone who would make me laugh.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Like, once I met someone and we were sitting around a table, and I talked about humor, and he said, what do you know about that? He made me laugh! I loved that! And is there a sequel? No. I should have told him tonight.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Could you take the lead with a man you like? No. I think men are... It has to be a winner. It's not up to us to do the job. No, but I like it when competitors do it. So a man who has a heart attack. Who looks like a gorilla and who can do lasagna. Who is a competitor and who is funny.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Yes. I like... I like the closets. Because if I have a little man... I would like to be... Because a young man... Did you ever have dates? Oh my god, awful, awful. A plumber who was dealing with Japanese people, a guy who wasn't in the car,
Starting point is 01:36:23 a guy who had put on his t-shirt and made the lawn with it in the afternoon, a guy who didn't look like his photo at all, and then a chance bought me flowers, so I groped my face in the bouquet and said, Oh, you're really hungry, thanks for the flowers, but I was disappointed. No, I don't like to do that. I'm waiting for it to happen by chance. I've been waiting for it for 14 years now. We're going to trust chance? Oh yeah, trust chance.
Starting point is 01:36:54 But it makes me laugh the famous phrase it's going to happen when you're waiting for the apocalypse. It's been a long time, I'm not waiting for it. I'm not waiting for it. I'm not expecting it. I'm not expecting it. And where would you meet someone? How? In a party. I played at all parties, by the way.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I like to party. But, that's it. As you can see, yesterday I was at... At Brossard? At Brossard for the shoot Dave. I slept at the hotel. So I could have gone to the bar for a drink. It tempted me, I was already tired,
Starting point is 01:37:37 but it tempted me to go to the bar. And you know, like in the movies, the guy comes up and says, good evening, how are you? Well, if you want, you can have some. No, but... No, but you know it happens sometimes, right? That's it. So, it's hard like that, to take your first steps.
Starting point is 01:37:55 But in general, I think it's better when you've known yourself for a while, and you've guessed who you were. Because it's hard for me to tell the guy that I'm an ordinary girl. You understand? He thinks it's going to take a lot of business to satisfy me. But I'm a couple's daughter. The other person's well-being is important to me. So I'm not an artist in our country. I'm a woman who likes to have fun, who loves to... I'm not a hop.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And what do you need? Oh, I need tenderness. Much more than anything else. Even in my vibrator, sometimes I say, I have a headache. I'm tired. That's why. It's rare that a Samsung will give you tenderness. Unless you put it in your neck. I need tenderness. I I have trouble for someone, I tell them, it's not your file. It will be fixed.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Go get a coffee, go, but it's not your file. You can't bring it home and sleep at night. But, yes, but for the little girl... No, no. It's not your file. You have to follow the rules. Especially when you talk about children. But, you know, like Claudia, she has a big interview to do tomorrow morning.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I'm going to wish her shit, I'm going to encourage her and everything, but I can't during the interview tomorrow, she's going to be like, will you have the post? But you could have been like that before. I could have been like that before. But for a potential lover, for a lover it's still a burden when the other person takes it. Yes, exactly. Sometimes you don't want to say everything to avoid creating a form of anxiety. But I would like a guy to tell me, it's not your case, bring me back to reality.
Starting point is 01:40:19 And that he protects you too. Because you want to be there for don't mean to say to pack up, but to be there for you, that you weren't doing everything alone either. Exactly. Because it's hard to be alone all the time, to do everything. But at the same time, there's a lot of freedom. Not ready to lose it. But you could travel, you could... What do you do with a lover? What don't you do at the moment? What I would like is to sit on a chair, at the adirondack, look at the river, with a nice little red glass, and have super fun conversations. But the truth is, the truth is, it's not trying to talk about something, it's not trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I'm renovating my old house in the countryside and the guys told me, yeah, because the toll won't come perfectly. Hey, the house is 160 years old, I don't care that the toll doesn't come perfectly. And then they said, my God, but it's very easy with you. I don't care that the If I can settle quickly, no trouble for you and no trouble for me. Let's save time. I don't know, no, but we have to spend some minutes on this. And then he's able to do that. It's a waste of time. So what you have to offer in love... Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:57 I find that beautiful. Give me your hand. Thank you. No, but what you have to offer is the moment. Exactly. It's to spend a beautiful moment when you're with the other. It doesn't mean that the other is always there either. No. But when you're afraid of dying, I think you have to analyze the rest by saying, it can happen to me soon. In the sense that I have a...
Starting point is 01:42:21 It seems that I'm sick. It seems that I have a sick organ. Yes. Once you had a heart attack, you're a heart patient. Even at the Artists Union, when I talked about my insurance, they told me, you're invalid. I was sitting in a wheelchair when they told me that. It's true. If you're said to be you're a son. But I know you can't understand what it's like when you're afraid of dying. You don't understand why you're reacting, but it's because of that. It's because of that.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Sometimes I drive and I'm like, I could be there. Do you realize? You can't be there anymore. I'm not there anymore. But it doesn't make me want to go. It's just that I want to be there anymore. Do you realize? I can't be there anymore. I'm not there anymore. But it doesn't make me want to go. I just want to live. I'm a little afraid of death. I tell my children, let me die alone,
Starting point is 01:43:16 unless I die alone. It's a little annoying. At this time, I have a little thing to do. A little thing that makes me feel bad. I think I'm having a heart deal, I'm a little thing that's bothering me. I think I'm having a heart attack. I understand. But I get angry because sometimes I say, I would help you make dinner, but I had a heart attack.
Starting point is 01:43:35 No, but I tell the children, if I go and you're there, hold my hand just to hold the stairs, go to the light, and then when I'm going to be up, I'm going to be alright. But I don't want to die alone. But if it happens in my sleep, it's the most beautiful death you can have. But I mean, I'm not afraid of death, but I have the impression that it must be cold in the hole when you fall to the other side. It must be cold, but it seems like when you... You feel like it's not comfortable.
Starting point is 01:44:07 No. You speak to me like a therapist. You're used to it. You feel like it's not comfortable. But you don't live well with that. I can hear what you're saying. Can we go back to your childhood? When you were little, did you have a cold?
Starting point is 01:44:35 It's the little lice. I had a cold in my nose. That's what lice are. When we get close like you, that's what I'm saying. We think more about the after. Yes. What does it look like? I hope it won't end up flat.
Starting point is 01:44:54 I hope. Colin, I... You should have seen me when my mother died. I made her put some gauze in her glasses, in case she finds my father. She had to be a top chef. I had her put some photos, I almost put the cable too because she liked
Starting point is 01:45:17 watching TV, but she surprised me. Listen, the collection was full of things. You know, the Egyptians did that, there are was full of business. You did it like, you know, the Egyptians did it. There are cultures that do that. The person leaves with significant things. They put ham on us and everything. I didn't put ham on them.
Starting point is 01:45:35 But when I got to the living room, I looked immediately if they had put the bodelins for real. They respected what I wanted. But when I got at the living room, there was water in the basement, because she died in April. So I said, no, don't bury my mother in the water. We need to go get a pump immediately. We'll remove the water that's there.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Because when I was at the church, I saw that there was a little water in the blanket. I was anxious. When she arrived in church, I saw that there was a little I don't want to leave with things too. Me, the children will put everything they want in the tomb, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me and I'm going to be exposed. Yes, because, you know why? When we get to the solo mortuary and there's a urn, the world goes, did you plant your tomatoes this year? You're totally right, it's true. It pisses me off. I saw a woman I loved who died of brain cancer in 1979-1980.
Starting point is 01:46:50 She was there, nobody was taking care of her. They were all like, yeah, well, that's it, my car wasn't running, so I called Jean-Guy. Hey, she lived for 80 years, can we take care of her life? It's the last time we're here for her. Can we get together and look at pictures? Yes. I don't mind if they put my video numbers, I don't mind. But if they come to see me, tell me something before I leave,
Starting point is 01:47:18 not to talk about a cement business that has 3-4 cars. So we're going to see you. Yes! I think I'm starting to have dead ears. Do you know what dead ears are? When you have a good lob, it's round, it's like full. But now my guess is that it's flat. It's the first time I notice in a circus how flat the ears are.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Ok, it changes. Yes, it changes. It flattened, look, we're not more fat. Yes, yes. You have the fat guy. I have the fat guy dead. You must die little by little I think. Do people you know, who are deceased, do you have signs? How?
Starting point is 01:48:11 Do you have signs of the afterlife? Uh, yes. Yes, uh, listen, do I have time to tell that? What time did you have to suck? Go ahead, go ahead. That's always at the red level, I love that. Laughter It has nothing to do with it, for example.
Starting point is 01:48:32 No, no, no, no, no. It's that my best friend, Claudia, who I was close to, she was like my daughter, died at the age of 42. Cancer. We're going to Florida. Claudia and I, I bought a small condo over there. It's small, I don't go to the sea, I don't go to the intercostal.
Starting point is 01:48:50 It's deep in a lake. So, we're down there. It's chairs, we're playing, and the light starts flashing. I'm going to see if the light bulb is well screwed on, if it's well connected. I said maybe when the air is not air-conditioned, the electricity is removed from the lamp. No, everything was beautiful, it kept flashing. And it's because of Anne-Marie that we are here in this condo. So I said, Anne-Marie, are you there? The light flashes. I was really there, Anne-Marie, are you there? The light flashes. Anne-Marie was really there, she was with us.
Starting point is 01:49:27 The light flashes. We go get a glass of wine. I stand next to the lamp and I say, well, we're going to have fun. Wait, I put music on a little iPod, there are 4000 tones in it. Okay? At one point, I had put the jazz list, quiet. At one point, the music stops and it plays a song by Claude Barzotti, take good care of her, or maybe it's not that one, but the other one. And it was the song she sang in karaoke with Claudine.
Starting point is 01:50:03 I'm getting goosebumps. There are 4 are 4000 tones. I have goosebumps too. 4000 tones and it stops in Barzotti. Seriously, I didn't even listen to Barzotti. We had legs cramped, we had goosebumps. I went to see a seaman she told me that it was her. I asked the woman, if you're still young, do you have enough energy to come and see those you love?
Starting point is 01:50:34 She said yes. I said, I don't know, we'll go see you anyway. She said yes, and she said that when Anne-Marie went to see you, she was angry. She had things to say. Well, we don't take it, but still. She was angry. She was angry. Okay. It's a long story, why she was angry.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Okay, but that means you know what that means to you. Yes, exactly. Claudia knows. Okay, perfect. We're pretty close to her to know. Okay, to know. So, listen, I wouldn't have believed it until 4,000 tonnes, which stops completely and puts Barzotti, the song she sings in karaoke, and she sang it all the time.
Starting point is 01:51:18 There I believed it. There I said, OK, it means we can come and help someone. Yes. I like to hear the signs because it's part of what it does. Exactly. You know, you can believe it or not, but the risk is that there is something that gives hope, like after. It would be shocking if nothing happens. Seriously. Yes. Oh yes. After having all lived you've been through.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Yes, I'm waiting to find my mother. I'd like all the dogs I've had to run to me. To come and join me. Who would you like to have dinner with in your close relationship? With my mother, that's for sure. What would you like to say to your mother? I'd like to... I think I've never had a conversation from woman to woman with her.
Starting point is 01:52:08 There was a woman once who came to see my show with her mother, and I was talking about the vibrator, two hours, two and a quarter. She said, when I saw my mother laugh about it, I realized that my mother was a woman. It's not just my mother, it's a woman. And I would have liked to have a real conversation with my mother about women. How it was in her intimacy, how... I would have liked to know that. You know, my mother was a little talented, but when I had the trouble, she was always listening.
Starting point is 01:52:43 And she always had the right words to talk to me. That's what's hard when you lose that being, to not be able to call her when things aren't going well, you know. It's like a mother is a... because even she, it hurt, she didn't tell me. She listened to what I had to say, you know. And I would have liked to sit down with her and talk about it. Not about a female-to-female relationship, but about two women together, you know. It would have been fun. And I would have liked to go eat with André Gagnon. I would have liked to go eat with those I lost and I didn't have time to say hello.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I would have liked to eat with everyone I lost. bonjour ou manger avec tout le monde que j'ai perdu. Probablement qu'on va manger ensemble dans quelques temps. Pas de suite. Pas de suite. Dernière question. La question opto réseau. Je comprends bien que tu vas me la poser. Je la pose.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Il n'y a pas d'option. D'accord. J'ai pas le jeu. Non. Je ne pense pas que tu vas le jouer. Non. C'est toujours la question qui termine bien cette grande rencontre-là. Qu'est-ce que tu penses de la question? There is no option. I don't think so. No, I don't think so. It's always the question that ends this great meeting.
Starting point is 01:53:50 What would the 9-year-old girl think of the woman in front of me? I would be proud. Really proud. Really. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Thank you. Thank you so much for being here and listening to my stories. So pay attention to the burning of the stomach, pay attention to your heart rate, pay attention to yourselves and live the present moment, but don't let yourself be fooled by the world. Think about yourselves, for real, not just, oh I think I'm going to start thinking about myself. No, no, do it now.
Starting point is 01:54:38 And if you want to do something that you've been wanting to do for a long time, do it, even if you have to borrow money. Do it! I kiss you, be careful, ok? Applause Thank you, Dion. Thank you, great lady. Thank you. And it's really... We heard you laugh. People are really with you. In the silence. I think you said things we had never heard. Well, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Anyway, we have life lessons that we will remember. We have life lessons that we will remember to hear you. Thank you, the Dion. Thank you, everyone! This episode was presented by Karine Jonquas, the reference in care for the skin in Quebec, and by the Marie-Club, a space dedicated to the best-being. The table games Open Your Game, Original Edition and Couples Edition are available everywhere in stores and on Randolph.ca

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