Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #116 Jean-François Guevremont (Rita Baga) | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

C’est une personne engagée, déterminée, audacieuse et aussi timide, ce que son alter ego Rita Baga n’est pas. C’est une drag queen très connue autant ici qu’à l’international. Rita Baga a entre autres participé à Canada’s Drag Race et elle a aussi animé Drag Race Belgique.Dans cet épisode, on parle de sa famille et de son enfance. Jean-François nous partage les détails de son parcours professionnel atypique, en plus de décrire avec une grande sensibilité sa relation amoureuse.Rencontre riche et profonde avec Jean-François Guevremont, alias Rita Baga.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:18:30 - Cartes vertes00:58:39 - Cartes jaunes01:29:51 - Cartes rouges01:43:04 - Cartes Eros01:58:46 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.

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I see someone that I've received a few years in TV because I'm interested at this

universe that, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm talking to Rita Baga. So, you have certainly

already seen in the art of the drag it's the universe of the drag queen she has

made, we know the middle but I think that Rita Baga has reached to make

understand that it's not just to be disguised to costumet but it's an art to be a

drag queen and there are there are there are many there are a couple

month my note of Greenobble also that is a who is a drag queen, and other.

So, it's always hard to distinguish. Today, I see John François Gaveremont, and,

obviously, it's also Rita Baga. So, I don't know is it is he will arrive in

Jean-Franco? Is it going to get to be to be in Jean-Francoe, but I think that

all the possible. And I think there there's a lot to say, yes,

on the personage, but I want to know, Jean-Franso the man behind the

character, place to Jean-Francois Gaveremont, alias Rita Baga. I've had a surpoor, I've been a great young, I've had a gastrectomy in 2000, I'm going to say to 2017, but I'm not certain, in these o'l that,

that me made a little bit more of 100 livres. I've been a long time I'm an impression that I was scruted on what I puted or

what I was to what I resembled really, my appearance. And, And there three years, I was you know, with all this

perth of poe that I felt in my poe, it had been left a lot of while, I had the

power of the vent that had to really the publicis, and I decided to me to have to have

retire, and then, and then, it's my more big complex physical, because I'm

mal psychatrised. So, I'm quite , let's go, to goche to right,

in largeer in between my sex and my obri, I'm a gross sycatrists that's

still, in three years, she's not scarcerized. She's still very, very rouge, she's

very large, and in fact, it's really not the chirurgy that's not done the work,

it's that my car has mal reactie. So, it's like my more complex

that I have made, I'm an other in willing it Open Your Open Your

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Randolph C.A. So, he is before me before I'm asked, is that

is John Francois Orita? So finally here, welcome, Jean-Franco But I

didn't but I'm sure to have to be sure. I hesitated and then

after that I said then after that I'm just more serious and we're more serious and we're

without artifice. Because you change with your artifice? Well, it's sure that there are some air

that's really and you get more in a mode performance than in the reality.

I'm more in a mode spectacular and then I'm just no, all you're placed for

that it's something that's actually more in the natural and the very. So,

me here, me here, all, all natural and in reshamblance. In the intro

in before you arrive, what I say to people, it's you've

democratized the drag queen. You're not the first who did the drag

but I have the impression that you have made to understand that's a art

also, the drag queen that it's not just a divertism it was, yes, there's a

notion of a notion of a there's a reflection, there's a engagement there's a

community also and that is, is that, is that, is that you're

in agree with that? I think in the period actual, yes,

I'm maybe contribute to that because I've had been a lot of many people rapidly, it's been my cheval of battle

democratized in the drag, the round accessible also. By course, I'll forget that there were people who had

this work that also. It's just there's an espouse between, you know, the last person and

we've got the impression that's often by me saying, it's great to you, but for me, it's thanks

to my do that there's Maddo, there had also Gilda who had. Exactly. For me my, my first contact, it was Gilda. But I

I'm not, I mean not that we said that's a drag queen. I didn't. For me, it's Jean Gilda, Gilda. She didn't know. She didn't that, of what I mean, it's up. It's really a personificatrice. D'allar, it was completely, Maddo had made a taba when she was

becoming popular, because it was completely other things. We're I'm used to see the real semblance ressembled to a woman something of a

very cabaret also like off and Maddo arrived in the space public with these little leaves of poppies

the shoes rose orange the tallon high of 20 puss so it was really a clash

between the two and it's made to have a space vision that was more singular

because we have even actually in the world of the drag there are there are

there are some sort of the genre of types it It's a clatter an year-in-an-an-an-a.

There's what I that I like, in fact, of this mity we can't constantly. But it's a lot of creativity.

Yes, it's sure, it's sure, it's true. And Madoe has been invited in all the

different in all the difference with you because I'm much I'm also she's still there, Mado,

is that to be to to see in Jean-Franso what Mado I think the first time I've seen

it was in the real nature where we or we saw who he was behind the personage. But, you know, we've seen in Jean-Francoe, we're in

Rita. And I think that Jean-Francois permit to understand Rita. Well, it's wrong that you say that because I've

talked to say to talk after that she had enregistry the real nature, and she said, I've always well-willed

separate the things, and I'm never the anonymity also. And she said that I've said I did, in fact,

to him to make a understand that we can have a good reception without all these artifice and they've

demanded several times to participate and finally, she had decided that she's she's

and she said in the mission, well, she's a bit a coming out, the

people, the people know for the first she had made a a good set up

and she and desande on the march good, and he is really more

gended and calm without his apparel of Mado And he made the Sway

in the mission to make a personage who's he's he reving to be in the theater

to play an espouse of a special to play a character masculine so it's fun

he's all in the space public he had had been a or a

crime and he made a a way he made a a sweet that's that's

that's that's not just on the scene it's that the drag

sort of the scene, the drag has a life at the exterior. You know,

you can you can you can go to put to be around in Rita Baga and we

see who is that's that is a person but it's complex, I think, I think,

you can join a person but when it's finished, the camera is

the camera is the camera is you turn to don't you don't

so how you can't is a person is a alter ego? How you

how you it A little like my personage of super-heroine in fact, it's like if in the life

every year I'm like that when I'm in a rita I'm a super-hero or a super-heroine and yes it's the fun

because now she can live not that in the cabaret we've heard on the radio we have on the TV

and the anime of the conference also there's plenty of things that were not possible before

and I'm so long than that there 15 There were someone who had invited for the 60th anniversary of a marriage of his parents

it was going to always remember and the grange it's something that I remember very well the kind of clash between our

our vets and the vash and I'm also that there the medium of age to be 75 15 years

when we were when we were we were I think six drag that it had done a grand coup but the

an espouse of stupefaction and of fear of the people when they're we've seen now, 15 years later that I'll

live would not I think I think it's really more more known, accessible and acceptate but not only

accepted but it's more respected than it was it's more when the society evolve positively and time

yeah so the people have fear there was a incomfort yeah it's a very uncomfortable

you're in a bit in a little village in a 50thene of persons aged in the 70, 80 years,

it was sure that he's not even not a lot of surprise, and we were all vinted like in sozy

of chanteuse of a popular, but if it it's apparece you, you make six drag queen at the

coat, oh my dear, a review of Las Vegas that's like, no,

no, it's like, no, no, it's like, do you do you? Is it

is ready to open your oh, yeah, I'm ready, so, you're ready,

so, you have the card which are these questions of order general. You have the

cards yellow that have been more specific to you. Now, today, you see,

the cards are fuchia but it should be a change of color. So the new

new, the new new Fuchia, it's these cards personal and the question

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You're just one. But when you're just I change, I respect the Joker. Now the

bus is you pass it to pass it to the cards? The card, but not all the

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economy. You'll have to choose an choice one to which you will respond, and I'll answer one also to have to respond. So, you will respond to two questions at the level Sarcell? Is, is I can't pose,

me also, or it's interdied? You'll say, me have posed a question that's like, well, yeah, like an exchange? Yeah, it's a fun, a change. Well, yeah, well, yeah, it's sure, you can But, yeah, there's a lot of

In other case, in a lot of, I said, I'd say, I'd say, I'd like, I'd say, I'd say,

I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, to a way very delicate. It's all the contrary to this we,

so, well, yeah, the exchange, it's perfect. So, well, what's, what is your

default, on what's on what trait of character have you do have you have you have you

to work of the other, what have you, What have you realized and what person has made a difference in your life?

Hmm. Is that I'm a chrono that far? I've got I decide rapidly. Well,

it's relatively. We're not so press it. Well, I think we're coming to do that. What do you

realize? Yeah. It's do, it's too, it's too in fact to you know

to go to my career is a The career of Rita, to to be able to do the TV, to do the show, I've

long time grew that we, I've had many, I've many, I have done before long time of the ambition.

I've always made some work in the which I'm going to go, and it's often

it's the case, because I've not had been much of my life, but I had been

long time at these employees, and I have always gravied the echelons.

It's what your employees? I've been director of Resources Human for an enterprise

of a governmental and paraguernmental. And I've started there as a telephonist it's me called,

my name is Jean-Francois I'd have some questions to you pose. And by the following,

I've been monitor, after that I've been responsible, the supervisor and after that,

director of resources human. So, I've really made the chain, and after

that I've been director of the programation and the resources human

at Fierty, Montreal, where I had come as a joint to the direction. So you see that after I've been called out. After that, they

have created a post of direction. So I've always made that so I'm engaged. I'm engaged. And the first after I was

five years, the second, seven years, in parallel of the drag, the night, the night, and the

time, and for the drag, it's the same thing, I said, when I had to barred my dog,

I'm I'm going to be animatrice, the echelon the echelon the echelon the

high if we want. Animatrice of the show. Animatrice. I'm going to

have my showry. I'm going to be an animatrice. So, so, I've been,

I've had the vestire during several seasons. I've been Shoot a girl, I've been barmaid,

I've been commie of accueue, I've even already been a general of security. And after

that I've been co-animatrice and after I'd be animatrice. But what I said, in my career

of drag, what I would like the most is to do this people that, it's fascinating, and

I'd like that to do things in the grand cell, and it's a time, but it's really the most great

rave that I realized, and I make sometimes pose the question by the media in the interview, but there, me seem, you

say that's your life, and then you do do it, is you know, is, if you're cultivating, these raves,

will be on have to new, it's, it makes the otherman, it gives, it does, it But I'm, you know, I'm

to think that if all it's arrainted for me I'm not in the regret, because I'm too much

I'm trying to have the chance to live. But by my your experience tele? Well, I've made

my boot of chame in the tele-reality. The people have more known by that. In fact, there are

in the six, I think, in 2016, 2017, there were HIL de Day, Elle, Two Nui, a documentary of eight episodes where we'd see six drag, three seigniards, three juniors.

We've seen it for one year. It's very good, that... Oh, yeah, you've seen? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this series, that... I'm not if you've seen, but I've got to see, but I've seen... With Barbada, I'm sorry. Yes, exactly. And I'm going to go, we've seen, we've seen, a topo.

And, this episode, that, it's Mary Clote. It's two feet the morning. he had the first time hour that's the first time hour, it's the first

minister of Canada is that it was due to the COVID it passed during the so it's it passed

but it's the first episode that's the first episode that there was an announcement and it was this episode

well I was by the first minister that's not because I didn't I'm not because

we're talking it's not because we're not because we're not it's not but it's but that it's

his first project TV. Yeah. And you're where you were that you're in in India.

In India. And they've followed there, the images are really beautiful the clash of this

giant of seven feet at 52 dollars. 52 dollars. What's that I said? Seven

feet at 52 degrees Celsius, there. I was show, it was and we

saw in this mare human. You march a lot? Yeah, I'd

marches much, I had much so. That's what I I've seen

more I've seen to after that I've made more often the debut of this notoriety that. about Canada's drag race, all right after Big Brother, for an eventment important. And, parallellyly,

I've made other concour. We're doing that the concour on TV, it's a music, also,

a soupie and a super perfect. That I'm well, I'm just the only concour

I've gained on the television. I'm a very good participants. I'm not a tendency

to gain, but I'm a good participant, for example. And, well, we've been

invited a a little partoo, and I had had the chance to have made two seasons

also of a drag Race Belgic, and that's special to live otherment, because I've been candidate two in the competition Drag Race, and there, I've been, by the suite, animated. Is it you that you've done, you know, they're doing, in fact, they've been, in fact, they've been contacted

for that I auditioned, because the Bassin of Drag in Belgium is not enormous, he wanted someone who had a regard external, that nests not directly the drag, but they were made apply people of a little partoo, on the Belgic. He had

a processis of auditions in two four. And I knew that I had reached all the

steps that we offered the employment when I had to competition for a other season of Canada

Drag Race, a all-star. The night, we had been to turn I had an appell

and they we confisced our telephones, it's very complicated but the production

me said it's an appell important and it to me to me to me

that this employ that. So, it's a pretty the topo. But it's

a lot of things. It's a little of time all about in five years. And what's

what you have more in the end of? It's that's so Drag Race Belgic to have

the chance to animate an mission a franchise like drag race that is

followed to be around the world and to live to the

other other I'm because I've made two seasons I

have many experience but the people at the first season the employees, the RTBF who is a society of state. So, these people are

to be able to work with a certain card and they're not, there are many who have never listened Drag Race. So I've had a little to learn

like the mechanisms to the way that, according to the experience that I had in Canada, and it's been very appreciated.

And I, I'm still when, when, when we're Arrived the first day,

I've viewed the plateau, and I'm saying, it's me that's like it's like

my plate it's like, I'm I don't know if I'm to revive that, this,

that I have used. I'm actually quite, I'm quite calm and serene, but I

just the vision of the plateau it's really to get to be and I say,

I'm saying, I'm to live that you know, you know, you know, you know,

the chance are left after, you know, if you had seen, I'd

you know, you'd have to profit of that. Yeah, and I've been profited, I adore the Belgium. Is that you been very received?

Really, I've been, the Belgians with who I'd and that I had worked and they're

they're still fantastic, super chaleureue. There's a lot of similarities between the culture

Belge and Quebecoise, in the chale human, and I've been very often in the

years, I've also have been a year in Belgium when I've made my

studies university. Dough the link, perhaps, because the product are approached for

that I auditioned. But I'm not been in the last year and we're there's a many there,

I'm talking, I think it I'm going, I repense to the year that I'm going to last year,

and I'm saying, I think I think I'm going to get to the end up probably

at the autumn, I'm organized to go to go for the pleasure, because I

mean really, I adore this country. I love the people and the nouriture is

very good also. Is there, you know, by example, is you have these conventum international

of drag? Yes, it is a dracon. It's very popular. It's organized by World

of Wonder that produces the house behind all the franchise of drag

race. It's enormous. I've made cell at London there

two years and the year the last of Los Angeles. We have really,

it's the same principle that's the same an expo agricultural without the charru let's,

but we understand, there's there, we can find some material promotional,

these t-shirts, all what we want, and there's also these drags it's very mercantile.

There are these drag that are many money with that, these drags very popular,

who have a line-up interminable, and he charge to bring some to take a photo. So, I think that's a bit too much.

And where is you do you do there in the popularity when you when you're in the first time I've made one, it's at

London, and I didn't know, it was what, it was, it was the reception because I don't know

in these events that in a fashion general. I'm not the bain- full when I'm in Rita,

you know, now I've now I've met the people after the spectacle, but it's quite

one-per-one and all. That, it's the more intimate. But, there's a lot of, it's a lot of 30,000 and 40,000 people. We're 150, 200 drag. How we're going to gerry that? And is, is, if the people will want to want me to go, and go to my kiosk and me talked?

And, finally, it's been a course a bit to constatting the effect of the visibility that, because there were people everywhere in the world who came to me to be in many the language different I'm saying I've got

when you're doing it's in the first season of Belgic, with the subtitles and it's really impressionant

and I'm with Giselle in Lebeye Simon Gosselin who is my best my best my first

who has gained the season three of Canada Drag Race we were we had made on

our kiosk and we we all did during the day we're we're at London we're at

London in person and there people who come to us to be to see the

photo with us who's we do give some we're in the people there's a

something that's something because the next week I'm in conge I'm in a bobbette

well I'm doing that you do that the same paste I'm in a bed full

there's like a clash there's like it's like to go to be validate that I know

to see to have the repercussions to what you that's it's it's convinced

to go to take the terrain at Los Angeles and then to do it first time I was with Giselle

I'm saying I'm saying in the same we're in the we're in the drag American is quite the most

there's probably there are more because it was in it's in the I'm going to see my penning of

the game and it's so too also you know to planify all the all the

kiosk we have we have the kiosk we even also and I had

all that's that's it's a little a vessel of extraterress we're all

we're even made made a toy of carton and we have the band in light LED

that made these aspects of movement stroboscopic we're we're really like in a vessel

but I also made to me to me to me to make to make

the people to make the merch also when we were there,

it's really really much of organization and of free that you don't know if you're

going to return in your money or not. So, there are there are who are going

really to get to meet the fans and there's there to be there to be there there for

the money. And I think the fans of the event of the genre like comicone he's

who want and who come there and who come there something that's someone who has played in

something that's a little bit and he's like, well I think he didn't

not to encounter these fans I understand. How did it how it's it's been it's been

it's been it's been it's a year at London it's on it's on it's on there's

there's there's there's there's been there there's so I'm until the

day I sent to pressure to come and I'm saying yeah it's sure

you're in your car in time to yeah it's it's that it's that

it's it's that parate and a kiosk Vid I'm in

drag who attended, who attended, that the people came, and at least

there's a big solidarity because the drag, say, who had the kiosk more

chalanded or more frequented, they had between them, and to their other

kiosk, so we let's not the people only, but I had scared that happened,

and in the time, I'm playing of compassion for the people, that it

and then, and then, I mean, I said, we've made London, we've made Los Angeles,

I think it will be that for the instant. I've not had been the piqueure necessarily. I've adored to meet

the people but you're not a I'm not I'm not I'm going to that's I think I'm

also when there there's a place I have my repairs I know where's where's the opportunity I have access

to the water. I've seen my little ventilator that we call my crote

because it's he's brown and there there's a form a bit of I'm I search

all the people someone of what I'm where I'm because you're because you're sure,

yeah, I'm like there's like in your symptoms in my symptoms so I'm my crot

I'm a little intonator portative and the people who know and they're going to know

to know to know to know I'm saying I'm even some of crisis of panic you know

I'm prepared so I'm so I'm saying I'd still have to live this really really

so, so, as I'm I'm that it's anguassant because Because in the same time, you've been

been good, because you've been lived two times. But I think it's important what you've made because you're going to validate your role in this universe that of the drag

that that, that that exist in this universe. It's special because even with the drag there, I think there's 12 franchises

at the world in this moment and maybe more, I'm maybe more I'm fan of the mission. I'm fan

of drag in France, in Germany, and there I've met And I'm I'm never for Raki that the

people that people me recognize so I'm I'm present hello I'm saying my name

yes I know you na nana and I'm there's quite there's surprise that I'm

like oh my god you know me I'm like well you know I'm like it's like it's like it's like

it's like we're we're like we're you know you're never reconquered and we're

we've seen we've seen we're we've seen never talked so that's so it's

these best encounters. Amaz. And it? And it's like every time. Yeah, every year,

I organize also an event that's called 100% drag. Ancienement Drag Superstar during the Fierty.

We've done that 2016, and it's me who book the drag of the international. So, it's more easy,

because I want directly or I have seen and I'm a good reason. I'm sure

to hear of that. I'm sorry, I'm talking to position well, thank you. Really.

On what trait of character, have you done to work? Ah, it's that that's chosen. Yes, that's that I chose. Hmm.

I mean, in fact, a work that's made, I'd say, naturally, and it's more by the friends of

long-datt that they've told, when I was unsecure and very prone and snappy. I'd

responded, you were, you were mordant. Yes, I was mordant. I was not, I was not as patient

and empathic that I'm empathic that I'm more young I was also I had not a car typical

I had a very little voice my name of my name my name my name it's B.G

it it merited the people know it and I had called so often and we

said Big Gay at the BG and then all you had made in sort

that I responded, really in a way, at a minute it was to be able to defend, I think,

but it's been a trait of my personality later, during the adolescence also,

that I responded, I, I'd, I'd not the critique, and I

would be all right that like a attack, and there a few years, one of

my friends of my old date, me, there's not so long

than that, just how you react it, it would have been impossible. You know, you'd have lost a

crack or you'd have revere the situation of bar. And I think now a certain deucear that's installed

but I think the work is made naturally or I know. But perhaps it'd be better. Is,

is it an impression also that the people to provoke more? That you had more

accepted as well you had been. You're reason, it's a question of being to be

to be in her place and very entoured in a good place,

a good place, and so I'm sure I'm like, it's a very,

the same for the drag, like, to pickose or to be prone, to be

to be prone, yeah, I've still a very good reparty but I don't

use otherment than when you when you're on the scene, because you

do also the scene, you do do the spectacle, you to promen everywhere.

When, for example, if there's someone of the public that you see not, the atmosphere,

is you do the genre to remet to his place? Yes, but I'm going, I'm in the

circle, that's what I'm doing. So, that's not that you have done, it's not

I'd have put personal, and I'd say the person to get a person to get a

there, I'm 20 years, but, with the years, and the experience also that's my spectators,

spectators, I'm very often because I'm not the person but it's not mechant I'm really

I'm very I'm very I'm very if you want to be you'll leave dance and we have just

a life to live we'll pass not to sit the bat the bra crossed

ah monsieur that it's it's they're sure and they're they're conscious that

that I see that I see It's a rile. I'd ask her name. During the show, I change a word of songs for to put his name in. I do some contrendue,

co-contrendue after a spectacle to remercise the people who have been there. And, I plug the name of the person in the remorsement. It's, it's sure that it's the experience

that's the experience that. Yeah, and your part, you know, be able to be able to do, but it comes certainly of what you've been to

talk to, you'd Is that you have been intimidated? Yes, I can't be the

way, we've often to ask the question and it's perhaps that's long

where for me, what I was, what I had like conscience when I was when I was

that it's sure that after, I said, yeah, it's sure that we don't know

that I'm not been intimidated physically it's perhaps for that for that for that

long time I'm not didn't be intimidated, but yes, it was more

the intimidation on some commenters, on my appearance, on my voice, because... Okay, but now, her voice, she has changed?

Yeah, your voice... Well, she changed a lot all the time. But I had a voice very, very

hot perche. D'allure, I was chanted at the solo of the voice out, you were... You were...

Soprano, Lerick, the soprano. Yeah, B. Maria, it was me that was my own notes.

But there had a clash because I ressembled at Doddley in Harry Potter. you know, a little guy very pot...

It's a ryan in studio. You have the image there's a little guy trepue and potlily. The gross jules,

I'm the same face, but I had the gross jules. It's all the name! It's so

that the nature mends not, so. Well, we've lost my

account. The description that you do you do do you do it? I have

photos, I'm a good, I've seen long time. When you you look these

that. What's what you have to have to say? It's going to be correct and how do you know, how do you know, how do you

see, I remember, even, I'm on the finishant of primary and I'm trying, you know, and plus the children have

no, the, I'm the impression that also more we've been evolved as society, more the

children are rough, but in time I'm too much, it's the subject that I'm Because the harassment, psychological, it's the intimidation, psychological, it's the intimidation

that, there's sometimes you're in a shock post-traumatic of that. It's the language, how you talk, how you talk, you know, it's all that that's all that you change also, and you're, you're often, it's often, it's,

it's a force levittment, you evite these people, you evite your situations, you, you evict, you've been, I've had an impression, I've had evolved with the years, but no,

because I, I've got, there's, there's, there's, there one, who's working in school so I

know I'm trying I'm there's I'm in my album I'm saying I'm saying

it's not for the people who I'm not because it's very that there's something

very different and the image that I was I was I read very well it's the

it's the mode of sonine you know the the tip that you make you

make you that's making that's there's very round the shoes

blonde orangeed, because it's by a step, but I've been orangeed long. I was plenty of freckos. You know, a belle person, epanouye, that's that's so. And you'd chant at the church? I'd like my pantalones

with my panty dance at snap. Yeah, it's... It's very imagined. But you shanted well. I shanted well, and after that I put that to go to second-air to go to the theater,

the impro. Is that you've started to send at your place? At second-air, yes. And, in fact, what has been

to be emancipated to the secondar is the committe, you know, I'm really in those ideas natural, the case

student, stage humanitar, you know, I'd be in all, and we're so far, and we,

I was going at the school secondar of Mortang at Boucherville who is in the

five three more grand of the school school so there, there were

there were maybe there perhaps more what we had perhaps in in the series

American, the kind of cliques, I've not resented that because there had a lot different.

And I had a phase very hippie, I was a vegetarian, I was abied with these pantalones

with the with the flowers on like the pantalones kind of of yoga. I'm

in the little bout boutique at the Cegeb of the New Montreal. I was

been granol. What's what it did do you do like that?

It was like a period to flotet. In I just had to travel in a

camp, my name, it's a nuage, that's it done a idea of this phase

that, and I'm, in fact, it's, I think it that's that's actually that the

side that's been more one love, I've, there, I'm in natural,

and I had a stage also to go to go to the year of after,

so we're that I'm really really to be to be to be, also,

the don of so and the work humanitar and community and that

the pickure is there to see all the everything there's there's something we're

something that we're something that's something when you do you do that to have

the impression to do something to have something and that it's anchored in these

years in the period hippie and it's again you're really

you've had your steps. So your period nuage, hippie, that's to be to

today? It's an transition between the more young and the adult to the world

of the adult? Yeah, because after that the Cegeep, it's like the

secondary and the Cep this year, it was not a very great growing out, because the

people saw dout not much even my parents, there's not had been

a scandal, nothing to Is it for you it's still angiogynne anguossing to the

annonce? The souvenirs that I've made it's it's more for evicted the questions

of the kind of you know, you're trying to get an old to attend and often

it's always it's a question for valid more than other I'm remember that

my mom me said you've got to make a woman or a chum at noel

I'm like the port is open the part of I've the message? It was a

plus an step, I think if you were saying, I'm going to get to see, I'm going to

have 18 18 years, I'm going completely my own, in plus, I've chosen the program

of education in the sorted from the chumain primar secondaire, so that,

the comedy, the comedies musical, it's really at from the moment that

that I started to be able, and to be a 100% that's I'm

I think And what's it's what's going to be 100 percent who's in the people who

there's some people of the values that for the other and who makes a lot

in their life in a general. The art and the human and in the time

I'm as I'm being with the human me feel to be accomplished

in doing doing in being in the community I'm I've worked

long for a festival also that had this vocation

that, and I'm emancipate. But in the same time, I'm going to be able to be able to be able to

and I'm doing the fact with my conjoin because it's a long time that we're the same

my same I've been very long and we're saying, well, if a one day

we're in his bar of the cell will be deborded on the because I

have a circle limited and he has a lot of a complex, it's just

a consta. We learn to and in the same time I know, I see that I'm a lot of concessance, I've got to

copinette but there's amy, amy, I'm less more, but it's more the quality

than the quantity. There are some good date also, I imagine. Yeah, and then the long date,

the primar of the secondaire that we're not a lot all the same the same trajectory. The people

of the Rive South who know this, they're going to think it's the same school, but we're

doing the school per Marquette at the school secondary of Morting and the Cegeep and Don't

Monpottis, it's like the same more than more. It's so resangue physically,

in plus, but a time that you have made that you know a lot of you know,

you know, but the people of Boucherville in the in the case, we've been quite

so far long time that we're in the first time, it's for example when you

chanted at the the church? At the moment you have seen that? I have

some kind of when I chanted at the church, but for me it was not artistic. It's

really, it's like just an activity the fun. I think I didn't know

I'm not so it was what the art of a general and I thought that

I always I'm fun, because I know, I mean, I remember that I

always had always I'm always sometimes I used often surprised. Dissin

these rob, and the fay, the pepillons, the little things of them these things very frivol

and that I think that it's been the table is more made for that I develop my

content artistic but it was long because I had to at the primary

I shant a little but I was more in the sport at you it was

more important or it was more common to practice of the sports. So I've played long on soccer,

to hockey. And it was not a lot of my activities parascolair. When I latched all that,

which is at the beginning of my adolescence, it's like I have made to do the improv,

and the improv it's been an amor to do you have done this impression that, because you've

seen that you've been that's been because you have been after I'm from the interview

from 2009, the number of people who've been talked of the improv. And some of the

people who have been intimidated before, and then there's a something that explodes in it's like

you know, you know, there's a great reconnaissance in improv. You know, when you do you

do, I mean, I mean, it's going to work together and you work for your team, the full,

the people, the public is very very active in public of improv. Yeah, And you've got to create your world also.

It's that that helps. The creativity that takes. But, you know, I'd eminaged so I've been in two league of impros, if you want, but in the meantime, I mean, it was, it's, to make sure, you know,

to make it. I was not the mayor, but I had really a lot of pleasure, but I admire those who are, there are some there are people who are

in plus, what's the fun, it's the, the people who are people who are but who tammend with us also, that's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you're, There's not great things

other who has that. No. A part the improup you part on something that's a

part of something and you're in every time you're surprised to say, you know, we say, we say,

it's like it uses the parts of your brain of the word, it's not the concept, so you

don't know that's the neurons come to be connected to us to offer that.

You're good in improv? Yeah, it's long time I've done I've done,

but it's very good because I let's to go to completely actually. There were

there's there's there's there's not like my parents in the way to because that

I'm not that it's all right to make me in the reality so my parents

had not to come to be completely loose and we have made a

really a good part of this gang of the pro are still

still my I think that's what has been what has been

to animated later also of this experience to provide

rapidly, to to have face to be in a situation especially in direct,

even today, my more my more more than stress, I'm a radio, it's because I'm saying,

because I'm all the time, I'm going to make a shock vagal. It's like a, a,

a great crain that I'm, it's to make a shock vagal, because I had many,

I had many, and often when I when I'm in direct, you can't, you can't

you can't it's going to be, you know, it's all the world, all right, all right? But a shock vagal, it's what, the reason, your shock? It's the, fear, an anguish sudden. When I was

when I was young, if I saw you see, I was a shock vagal, or the step, when you cong on something, and you were at an atordy, I, when I was

when I was tap on something, and I'd face a shock vaguely, you know, the interdiscencement all right, it's a moment a shute of depression sudden.

I can't, it can arrive easily when you're in direct. Yeah, because then, in plus, I'm conditioned before, and then I'm

saying, well, it's going to repeat, you do, do you do things, and the times it's the most

demandant, it's been in direct of the universe, because then more, you have repeated, it's a super

team, they're a pro, you do that, you do that, you're there five seconds before an entry,

and then, and then, the patate to come as to go, then I'm said, I'm going

to return, and I'm to do you have a shock vacant at every time I think and I'm like well I'm trying well you're like

no you're like I think I think it's I remember I think it's it's like for the key

there's there's Leona Lackace Leo just before me who's now she's like she's all the

time in the and it's like oh who at the end of the and I'm in the case I'm in

what I'm in what I think to think to think before I'm that's just what I'm if you've been

it's been if you've been they've been they've done they've done the camera and she was like She had a solution

Yeah, she had a solution And she's a lot She's it's a lot We're able to do, It's like, okay It's like, it's It's like, okay, it's It's like,

Yeah, it's like, Yeah, no, it's like No, no, it's going Because as soon, It's an affair to be conditionate But it's, it's It's a matter

But it's a little It's a little Chalor after that I see my earseal And when my earseal Usually it's the last thing That's the last thing

I remember So, there, when my my eyes sit, I said, oh, no, I'm going to have to have a shock vagal.

And it's arrived several times, I'm over the years, and okay, okay, it's happened

that. But it came to make a make sure of a manicure in Mexico. It had

about a way. She's supposed to be a time. Yeah, but it's

because it's because it was a alcohol, the friction, you know, to see,

to see, to see, I'm pasted, and I had used a stodd and I I mean I said, oh, my God,

we're going to be, we're talking to my palm, and I opened the eyes, and there were three people in my face, I'm sorry, I'm there.

Oh, no, I'm going to think that's going to see. You know, there's never to do what, of dramatic,

or is that I'm going to get mad, it's just that's only arrived so often, and I've made plenty of tests

medical. We thought that it was a form of epilepsy, it was a base pressure, it's a shock bagasse, it's

these syncope there's a tit, my dear the last thing that's the attack anxiety anxioes

it's really the nerves so I'm so much that when I'm chos the earace I'm

oh no oh no so it's okay it's so it's normal we're gonna let's see

my lips to get blanche that's what you know it's all it's due two seconds

but but but I'm but I'm but I think that Eleonor has been it's been brilliant

because I think it's like you know what you think it's like if it's not the end of the world yeah yeah it's so

that's consulted for that and you know a piece who said what the thing is what the thing

yeah I'm saying well you go to get a bagger I'm coming I'm

he'd say yeah but if you're in direct and it's it's what it's what you're scared

that the last time the people people talk of that you're afraid it's you've got to

appear it's what it's the ego I'm saying well yeah there's there's

there's there part also that's that change something in what I do that

my trajectory that it that's that I don't want to do it because I'm not

that it can't that much like Michel Courteamache has a view

that you that comes so I think so often I'm really really a person optimist

in the same time I'm When it's When it's It's like it's It's like a It's like an anguish

With which I Do you do go jongler And live And it's never Finally, that It's always In the same But it's

There's It's done These things For you And it's what The worst That's the It's the

question that's It's the It's what the It's And you can You can live With the PIR?

Well, We can live with The PIR But it's It's just an Eleonard For me It's so

It's that we It's so It's that It's that we we're doing. It's what we do. It's ready.

It's a okay. And it's me arrived at Zinnit before to return. I was going to

get in drag and I'm allvee. Now that it's been anguossed for during three months.

I've even tried to change the song because there I wanted to be all the people who

did that all you know that's a good message that you can't be fair to you've been

to be sure to be sure never made, and all the choreography there in two minutes,

and Patricia, a person at the research me had said, she said, how it's always, she's always, she's a night,

it's a lot, I'm going to be correct, I'm going to and then she , she, she's not that you

don't know, you know, yeah, it's stressful, but after that, you're going to tell you to say,

you've been to say, I've been to always to think to do something when I'm trying to

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So, now, Sarcelle, Dijon. Four. Yeah, you'd give me four questions. I mean, see, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, he's not supposed to have a lot of it. It's not, no, no. Okay. Tie.

Tien, Tien, Tien, the people who look not, I'm going to the cards. The cards.

Oh, no, Kajon. Dijon. Dijon. What trait of character have you erited to your

mother? What is the problem the most difficult that you have had to surmounted? What's

what's the part in the life? My God, it's personalized and all your whole.

It's your complex. Mm-hmm. Mm. Hmm. Well, Bon, bon,

well, bon, well, I hesitate. Because I'm saying, there's there's

nothing that I'm going to that I'm that I'm maybe repondue by the long tirade

precedence. Ah, I could have about my man, you know, what trait of character

I've inherited of my my mother. Yeah. The capacity and the desire

and the desire and the and the appreciation of being sole. My mother, she's a woman

celibateate, very jolly woman, she doesn't not really but if you are celibate in the region of Boucherville

and that you like you like you, I know one. And, well, my

mother, she has left, my parents are separated and I never had never

conued and there had the guard partaged, I had more the weekend

at my time, and I'm never really known with a conjoin for a long time

then after that my son is partied I'm partied and there she's ramaccent in the guise

but she really really really well she's really she's a love solitaire she's really

very well with that she and she she like she she like she watch her

she's she she she's but she she she comes she

she passed her She's made in cuckooning, she crass her divan with his live, she's chas. She's just, and the more I get, and the more I'm, you know,

I'm in couple, it's been a couple, it's many, my conjoin, that I like, I like, I like, I like, I'm sorry, it's also my geran,

and we're, and we're, an enterprise of, the, of gestion, of spectacle, the conference, event,

production, so, we, we have a But we're together, we travel together, he's and we're d'ar and we're together, and we're so we see often, but we're

our moments of me time, and it's a good, and we're not the same hour, I'm not the same hour I'm really more than he, and much more than, he's at 9 o'clock, he's d'clock, I can't d'clock

to me and I'm endormeer at 2 o'clock But, yeah, my me time, it's between 10-hour and 2 hours. And if I go to somewhere, like, by example, here, it's like an hour and a minute, all,

and return, I go to, I do with my little things and then you when there's at the time,

where is that me don't know, I'm very I'm very, I'm going to go to go and I'm going to go and I

adore that. I adore that, anything, I like my love, solitaire like my and

really, in plus, I've already to say that you know, that'd adored

to get on your divan and read and I think it's maybe I've heard here, here,

yeah, yeah, yeah, but when I've heard that, I've said, oh,

my God, that's my God, that we prefer that the two, so,

each part of each side, but, but that for me, it's the bonner,

I, when I'm when I'm when you're so, so, don't very interesting

that, No, but because there's a lot of action all the time. I like the action because I have these moments, I'm not all the time.

You know, I'm like, at least you know, at a piece of someone arrive, someone's part, you know, there's a lot of what

that's past. Right, Michel Trembly, there's a party that's Yeah, it's it's a lot, that I can't

say, I can't say, I'm one of my one of my one of my one of my family, and I love

all that. But if I like that, it's because I profit of my moments alone.

It's like, I'm like my equilibrium all the time. It's a time. It's a time.

I'm sorry. I'm two divan at the house. One, it's really for

me vaché, I'd say like that and the other is more formal. But I have nothing

more than a day that's more fun than a day that it's not really

really that's I'm not that I'm making to what, you're obliged to do something,

to be being in cuckooning. I'm it's more being in cuckooning with a

Doodoo, my chien And then I'm talking to At the TV And I know that By the same Maruio he passes to Faire d'O., He passes to

I'm doing, you know, I'm sure All right, hey, there, and I like, and I like, Yeah, I'm also.

Well, You know, Yeah, I'm at the Switch, for example, I'm not, you're on,

I'm, exactly, but I'm, but I'm like if I'm in this universe that, and I'm

that I'm sure that it's that's like, it's, For me, let's let's what you do do you do, let's do you do with you know, I'm being

alone, it's part to be part of to bring the mind of me. And, and there little things like that,

game and be comfortable with also, I'm very, I'm also, I'm too, I'm trying, I'm, yeah,

the doucher, the deuceor. Yeah, yeah, I have one, that I, the robe of chan in the same

that you know, that you touch, it's extra fluffy, I, I'm, the dudune and the robe and the robe

and the But there are a day a day okay I'm in okay I'm in okay I'm in on conge

they're in they're in on conge and we're talking about the end of the day, what you have

done today? Oh, now, we're all today we're all over after that

we've made the pay in the and then my chum he's made a toilet also we

we're going to get that on the bowl, you other that you're like that my chum

finally finally to have finally I'm still I'm over aros

the garden in five minutes and it to be that, you know, I'm not a lot of

that's, it's, that's, I'm in a lot of everything to do you know, to do you know, and then you know,

and then, and I'm not to say, I'm not, you're not, you're not, you're not, it's not,

it's so, no, it's, that's, it's a time where it's I'm in time, I'm trying to planify,

because we're always, you know, the agenda yeah, like all the but, you know, when, you know, that,

that I'm talking, there are, some, they're some of them and say, hey, I have a day a day of course

because when I had the three children, I was very alone with my family, because Mario

was in politics, so he was promen at the Quebec or at the Quebec, or he was a time plain, so it's,

it's a time, sometimes I'm used, so I've been to me to me a day,

so it would be to be a merkreddy, and then two weeks after I'm going to be, okay,

there's, it's got to, you have to have to have to get a objective, And then I'd I'd like to

garden So they'd like I'd like to work at Quebec if I was always I'd have to work in fact like that's like like that person

me derangee And then sometimes I'd I'd go ahead I'd go ahead And I'd watch any part of any point, I'm

Mastoir in the cinema I'm in the same during the same day I didn't see what crazy it was coming to start

and Quebec, Montreal I remember I remember this year I've seen finally it's been two grand films in Quebec

that have marked But, you know, I'd have come in, my popcorn, my Diet Coke, in a cinema. You'd have to be it, these days'clock? Yes, yes, because there was no way, because people knew what I'd do. I'd do it. I'd say, yeah, and it's the days that me cutter anything, but it was for me. It was like, there's a person who said, Mom, I'm in the North.

You know, it's like I'm a bit of the same, and I adore the cinema. And when you're young kids of children, it's not that you cost the most of the film. But no, because, there's, you travel again, you're your role of my, Because, there, you have to stature of the gestion. We're not, we can... Lash the popcorn at your sister. Yeah, and you're listening to a film of two hours.

You'll go to listen to, I don't know how many times. So, it's not the DVD at the time. You know, at the time, it's a little, my solitude, also. It's a little bit of that. I'd be able to do with it to do, I don't have to do that. But to say, but to say,

that you'd understand, it's a good idea. It's not true that you inventing the faux rendezvous the Wednesday after midday for the people who who want to who get

to get a agenda the end of the Wednesday after midday yeah, yeah, I'm a

rendezvous to a hour to we're not but, but it but it's but you

know, there's a old, Grozner Richard she, I'm said,

you know, when you know, when you can't be with you same, it's because

you go well, it's when you when you're able to when you can't be

able to , you can me to serve to the like your mother, who seems

really with them yeah, well, I'm not seen that, but when you're being with

you can be with you can be able to be the contrary, is what it is what it is the same. If you're

being with you well, there are people who are they're a person, but who are

a person to be always there's in their more great power, the solitude, it's correct

too. But when you don't not fear of the solitude, and that in this zone

that, you know, I think it's valid also that you go back in the sense that if you're with the other you have kind of

something more more than you know, I'm never a moment alone, I get agitated in there. Because I'm

all the energy, I'm very sensible to what's the stuff, and there's just sometimes I'm like to neutralize

that and to repartire to be better after. It's always we can't four hours of route and

it's not that we're not that's not We've seen with the silence. So, so we're going to, our Ben is arrived, but we're 10 in all our turn. So, we pass the journey ensemble.

There, there are between 300 and 500 people in a cell. I've metonted all the 5th. Often, it's due to long time the pre-show than the show. I've metered all the month. I've said, I'm going to part after the last person

because if you're attending, I'm also, you know, I'm just, I'm very close to the people who are going to go to my spectacle, we have a little moment. And then after that, When we're in the auto

often I I'm going to because there's like I'm in there you know, you've seen too, you're

seeing a lot of your day. And I imagine in plus you're mad of family if you

do you do you do your day, I imagine that a day in your is,

is that is that in the afternoon by example you were you're still because

you're in the school you're having to do you have always I've always I'm

because I've 13 years, I think. But I've worked out, but, you know, it's that the reality of the parents,

you know, is that the morning you're because, well, sometimes you're the lunch, it's,

it depends of the age, but you be sure who are being sure, they're able to have to be

to be to get to be to get to the car, you know, when you're there's variable. And then

after that, you part to work, and then you're coming, well, you're going to you go to

get to You could have been to catch the journey there's not a moment to do you. I'm

there's a compassion for the young parents when the kids are not completely autonomous

sometimes I'm saying to think to you to think of it's easy to say you say

you don't to say you don't for you because to take an activity that you

have an activity that you're because it's or even you do you do do you do

do you do do you do do you do to find some these little bull where we're

doing the people who are those who are people who can't be they're not because it's you can

accumulate some frustration also. You know your your own your role of parents

but I'm sometimes I think when the when the when the kids are when they're

getting more and then we're there's often that we're saying Maru

no, we're not I'm in too complicated to party with three parents you're

when you get to the person they're never equipped for so

to see and At times, I was just too fatigued. Well, yeah, the way, it was exciting, it's a nervous.

Now, I said, well, we're very at home to the time of time. I mean, I've always having to do

do you know, so I'm not. We're not. We're not. But I was doing it, but when we had to have

started to have more of time, now I, then I'm, because I think I'm that I'm know,

because I'm back on when you're getting, you know, you'll see but when when that's

it's diminue, that, I, of part-se, like, I find the good of a pack-of-a-fair. So, I say, I do always my parents, you know, we're suesim the

fatigue that our car accumulal all the time. My sister is parent of the jumo poli- handicapped

who have 10 years, and one who's not that I think to, you say, you say, you said,

you said, I have a lot empathy, compassion for the young parents, but also the parents of

people with the need particular. You know, she's, she's, she's

the level of life of his parents, it's over the prenostics of the

departure, and time they're at the age, now they're they're two.

It's a mother celibate now, she's with the conjoint, so she

she's an occupant in time in time so, it's it's in one that

he's immobile and the other he he doesn't always in trying to courire after,

he turn this form of a disc that that's that he turn

always on he he's not verbal he's made the sound

and I see the the fatig and it's his work and it's she's not she has not

not more than four hours before 10 years. I mean it's really the parents of

children have been like that's all their life I'm I'm I'm

She's always plenty of love. Because I see, my sister, it's her life, these children. Now, now they're an school adapted. So,

she'll have, kind of some hours of repis per day, but the car professorial

does not the night when there one who's up, to get, in what vigilance

that's so that you're still in a state of vigilance. Oh, yeah, but even

there's there one that is stationed, let's who is correct, in his, in his world, he does his little affairs. There, the other, he

he's used on his iPad, so, we think they're correct, we're at times in trying to eat, they'll attend a little sound, and fute, all right, is in hypervigilance constantly, so, like, there, some, there, I'm fatigued,

I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm, and I'm gonna, and I'm, and, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's really that

the life of these parents of the they pass their life to accompany their infant

Yeah, and it's good to meet other parents who view that they they're a

good circle like I'm like they really a good circle the parents of the children of

the children who the alts that they offer also the ripies the alt they're

they're they're they're they're really it's because it's like on to wall of rainier

all people know, and there are who can't and there are who can't there's there's

so they're they're going so they're in the commerce respective or they're going to

see a person at their person. It's like we could say it's an

difficult that they live, but it's like there there's like there's invisible that

we're not but when when you see a situation whoops they they're

they're really a as a radio, like the people who develop a cancer or who are in the head of a malady, after that you bring in the number of persons

who have this malady that, of all the resources that exist, all the people who are affected by this malady there also is the same principle when there's an event

or an entity or a person who we can't have like a view of an eagle after. How they's called your

sister? Melanie. We have salue Melanie. We have salue. So, Hello, Melanie,

and it's a incredible like a situation of having a reason of a particular monoparental, we'll

we'll leave our chappo. We'll leave the chape and the peruque. Oh, yeah, the peruque

but it's hard after that to be to be to be something like when you have a

family. Effectively. What is your most complex? Hmm. It's a

long time had been my poe, my complex, and there I've had a surpoise I've been I've been

a gastrectomy in 2000 I'm going to say to 2017 but I'm not certain in these o'all that that me made

to lose a little bit more of 100 livres now it's that's sure that's just a fluctuation

of 45 livres about about in the same year I can't spend and bring 45

leaves I've really a guard of five seasons that I'm It's a place. It's very extensible. And, you know, to do do things public or at the TV, we see a lot of

when I started to do more, there's five years, I'm, in fact, when we've seen more, you know, five, six years, it was a long time that I had my gastrectomy. So, the year of the second, that, it's often the year where is the most petite, or the part of the poe, the most apparent. So, we've viewed a lot of the way, the

more meg that I've been, there's always a certain reprise, there's a stability, and I'm

see, I'm very much at the light of the camera, at the TV, when there's

rediffusion of the thing, we know, we're in how year, just with the

form of my face or the form of my car, and the all this I don't know, I don't know what, in

French, we're saying a fandom, the space of the fans that entour, the fan of public type that entour the mission of drag race, all the franchise are very ported on the judgments of look and, by consequence,

of the physique. So, I've been long time, the impression that I was scruted on what I had, or on what I resembled, really my appearance.

And, you know three years I was found out that with all this part of that I felt

that I felt more in my paw, it would be a lot quite, I had the the poe

the body of the vent who descended really to be really to make to make retire,

and then to be the tableier that we have been and now now, it's my

more complex physical because I'm mal psychatrised so

I'm completely say, let's goche to right, in largeer in the between my

sex and my ombris, I'm a gross sycatriss that is still, after this year,

and has not sycatrised. She is still very, very rouge, she's very large, and in fact,

it's really not the chirurgy that's not done the work, it's that my car

has mal reactie so, so it's like my more complex that I

have reglet, I'm I'm having one other in wanting it's it's a make in sort

that even today I can't be put not me on the because it's too too when I'm

when I'm like a corset very serre sometimes my scatrice re-ovre yeah so that

it's been really a complex and I see I I've I've been for all

it's just physically physically you know I've done that because it's it's

it's I'm derange and then it's it's again again plus, finally.

But I know that in a few years, it's just the cicatricization has been very long. And is it

dangerous? Is it you could have to have something? I'm going to have some infection,

effectively. There, in this moment, in the way, in plus, I've had many times

that I'm know, and there's a good week, and there's a good week, but I'm remember when

we filmed the All-Star of Canada's Drag Race, it's terribly long when you're in your

ensemble and that's to attend the comments of the judge it can be able

to be to be able and you and then I'm I'm an ensemble I2

that's a challenge to fabricing something and I had not terminated it's

late what I just I'm not I'm not in confidence I have a pair of you cross

you know it's it's all and I felt I felt that I felt that

it had to be humid in to my course, and it made,

it was a bad, it's a little I'm going to do you go to do see what? Finally,

it's completely open, and it's it's a new pu that's out of the

and I knew, that I'm going to be in danger this time that. So, finally,

I'm finally, I have at the end the episode, but at the end of the episode

we say, I say he's going, and I'm because it's one of my good friends,

but I just because I had very mal. And there we've If it's if it re-oven

like that every time I feel I'm trying to but it's also a bit bit of so I'm talking to talk about my more big

complex physical. If not it's not quite that I'd say if a person just this bit that

this is more chic, let's then after it can't be have to have some of the laser

yeah I can have to have some yeah but I'm not because I'm still too rough

I've never heard that it would be so long I have some people They've made

to make Tomitok that's really more aesthetic and in three months we were almost there's a little

thing and I've I've verified after five six months it's like it's not normal it's not

it's not I've been re-view the chirurgy and I had been re-review the chirurge

and he said it's really an infime an infim it's rare that it's rare that the people

cicatrises not bad at that if you're if you're if you're going to

it's just long but that it's a time, also with the fluctuations of poe

it's not because there if I if I'm on my sycatrise so I'm in mode

of maintain and perts for that and fluctuation of power why you have some

it's it depends what I'm really I've always always been like I'm

never gavered But I'm with my ex we'd like my ex we'd have to be 5 adilis My metabolism

is very long And also I'm not I'm not able to I'm saying I'm already wrong So why you know Why I'm

Why I'm gonna I'm correct like that It's correct like that It's not It's just a moment When I was When I was I've traversed

The 300 Livre And then I I'd have to The Semele Severe That my medicine Me had said

Well, there, there's a to the apnea of someone who has 60 and you're on 25, so it's a lot of it's a thing that's a

thing that's after that I'm not, we're not, we're not, I'm not in super-scented and it's

certainly because of the apnea and to have lost that that, yes, it's it, it's on the confidence,

it's sure, the regard of the other change much also, but for me it was really more

a question of a question of I think I'm I think I'm more in my now, but it's a lot

about the standard of the society and how we're received, and I see even at the TV, the times that I'm more round.

Example, the first of Zinnit this year, it's there that that I was in my more round. Meton, I had practically

40 livres of plus that I'm paced now, and that it's at the beginning, you you know, I fluctu,

it's, well, it's it's been made these things at the TV in

direct. And the first comments of the people were in a lot of

a lot that's a lot that's a lot of this year, that's

it's that I'm made make a comment but I just like I'm

sure of my performance and it's that the people that's that's

that's not it's not it's not it's it's it's people

that people who listen to say I'm going to make that I'm

I'm I'll take of the time for to write that and I mean, I mean,

I don't know at what you know, and that's some people who are going to be kind of people who are well,

it's like the intimidation, you know, it's a sort of mime, that, to be able

with the other, yeah, and they have there's yeah, I think you have been

and greased it, it's not good for your health, thank Carmel,

thank so, like, we're not, it's that, you know, I haven't been remarked,

I don't know, and you know, sometimes, you know, when I do you know, when I was, when I was, when I was

being said, I'm afraid of the face. That's, it would be the acclaryage of a night. But, you know,

admiton, I'm at least fair, the face. See, that's the , you know, and in a

whole way, we know, we're, we're doing, you know, and, you know, and there,

we're fed off, the, I'm, it's not of the commentaries, but you say, why you mean, you know, why you try the time to, you know, you

don't even not of a tell person, talk, me, do you know, what's what an investigation, uh-huh. I'm just, I'm up, you, you, you, you know, there are these actors and actress, you know, it's so I think we're that we're talking to more, like, of all, all, and, you know,

and time more, because that's, perhaps that, it's, it's deadone, and it's It makes it more accessible. In the same time, I'm saying, you have not need to write

to this actress like, oh, in the case, your front bouch not, it's not because you know, that's not because you

see it, you know, that's not a piece, and you trypott a guy, and you look at the

madame at and you have you had, you had, you said in English, touched by an angel,

you know, you have, you have, you have, you, you know, no, no,

no, and, I mean, you know, I can't have a retouch to face, but I'm not to respond because I'm not like, you know, it's not like, no, and you're not to defend, I don't, I don't want to be

to defend, you know, or change to, it's at the worst, if you you pose a real, I mean, I said, that's why the people who are really arrested, what's she has changed? I think that, it's impover. You had, you've made a little declaration,

a statement, by rapport to vintment, you know, really, all of what's physical at the TV and I thought that you have really

said it's we're going to we're doing we're doing we're doing with a team for the look and all that

but who he's really of what we're talking in a day in a cotidien three

year it's it's right that the surconsumation the circulation that pass yeah it's like

we're not we're not it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like why you're

long time it's the same in the same and people me say I had to see what what's what

your next kit, but, you know, it's not some of the things I could find out of the magazine, I've got to have some good look, these be be able to payruke, and I

met it, for almost two years, I never remit the same affair, while I was playing the plateo, the chronics, Cid, and that,

I had an emission, and I was, I, I could not let me make, it's a few years, so, there's things,

I'm like, I'm going, I'm going, I'm not, I'm going, I, I'm doing some switch, let's, okay,

this peruque, this pair, this, you change my makeup but it's a lot of pressure I said,

you know, there's there's a people like in New York that people just that have a lot of

a pair of a pair of those little she had all the time she's that's so her character

is, are you be bad? But yeah I'm ratted my vocation I'd have to

be someone to have all the time all the time but you but you it's it's the choice

that we do you embarked in some or not I'm maybe I'm an moment

I'm in to have two feet the morning, and it's François Belfoy who came co-anim with me. Francoe he comes, well, I'm going to be here, this t-shirt that I'm going to have

today, tomorrow and after-demain, it's all right now, he's all the time be proper, but I'm no more to enjoy to that. I've no longer

I've got to be to have to put it, and it's he's the first time that he's been the first that because, you know, I'm saying,

we'd remit every maybe the same time in the same two months, all right, I mean, the people Remarked. The people

It's not 2,000 people are also relativized because the radio social we have always the impression

that you have three comments it's 10,000 and no it's three on perhaps 200,000 so even

statistically you're saying a commenter on the thing, you're three that it's these things

more more than you focus to the same well I'm the same well, I'm well,

so it's true. It's true. It's so, in the same time, it's like, he does be good in the Jules of the seven differences.

You know, so, what's you want, but it's just, you know, when we're just, you know, when you know, our consumption, it's passed by

there, also, it's accepted to remit the same things Yeah. And, uh, we do that's so, we're talking,

it's in dark and it's interchangeable and, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, the color, she decided to neutralize. Nive,

framboise. Oh, so, yeah, so, so, so, there are four, there are four,

and you I'll respond to a question of this level. I'm still not right to look at

I'm no, you have you do you please we're in the hand? We're not to do you

have a pleasure. You're in the hands fruade? I'm sure the extremities fruade.

I'm a person who across the other in the other and the other then it's it's me

it's my my little my little my little my little my little so we're so we're

so, so we're part. What is your relation with the At which moment have you due to be

courageous which part of your life was the most I'm not a question

you've got to choose one too? No. Oh, no, okay. Well,

what is my relation with the man? I'm very fear of to die, I'm very fear of

the death, it's a source of anguish so often, then, and in fact, you know, I'm coming

to understand between the lines that I I've talked, that I'm a person anxious, of general, and that's a long time.

But by rapport to the more, we'd say I'm pretty more conscience in the 30th at the end, at the end,

that it was something, it was something that was more tangible, because now I had, let's,

I've lost all my grandparents as young, the, the, the four, there,

there, there, there, the tent, who's on, the zons, the cousins, the cousins, and,

you start to be more confronted to that and I had some of the 20thens that I had

after that with the anxiety that's up and then I was doing that I was going to make

a shock vagal but I've already I've got your little demon or your

my it's not a demon it's my my little anguacet in interior that

he resour so it's you're not not I'm don't know it's it's just it's the

pastes the same and after then after that I'm I said, it's just these I'm not a

person negative, but it's these absences like that you know, it's a scenario, I've made

some things, but I'm could be, could arrive, but I'm could arrive, but I'm after after

after I've learned, it's to let's be, it's, because the reactions, let's,

I, I'm , I'm, I'm at the epitry and I've seen and I'm oh, my God,

the pannier will come and everything, and all all day, blah, blah, and then

I count that, and he said, intense. You know, it's not it's not it's not

I'm just to be able to partage so we're saying to tell to tell you to let's to let's

let's and there there's a there's a people who it's probably because I think it's

because I heard of I'd have to listen to the trailer but it's my favorite

but the but the the principal source in that's the part of the part of the

yeah there's there's there both there's there's it's the hippocondry

will part also of It's the anxiety also, the hypochondri, you know, and it's rapid, to make some of the scenarios,

I've already used some of the boss that it had had to have been to look at the medicine, the medicin me saying,

it's an inquietta we're taking on radio and the moment the results of the radio and between the radio

and the moment of the results I think had had two weeks interminable and terminable

and there it's like I've made a bit of cardiac-anxious also because I was stressed I'm saying let's say let's get entourdy I'm like oh my God it's a year

I'm saying there's a mood and then I'm in an anguance but it's really to be related to the mar and I've

heard I've heard that I've heard that you're in peace with the cause we're because we're all because we're

I'm fascinated some people like I'm like I'm like there's a lot there's a lot of things there's always

there's a lot of things I think the most great traumatist the last year it's the last year it's to assist the death of the

father of my chum he had had been a medical to die of I'm talking and I'm

not good but it it's it's going to have two years he's he's

resembled too physically the two he resound to some he doesn't it's supposed

to be a good moment it's all his family chosen it's for

long time I've not with the marr. So, I mean, I say, I'm going to

because it's in the last reality, I can't say, no, I'm not I'm not sure I'm trying

to the other board of the door, you know, I'm going to get a play list, everybody says bye, all this

and my chum is going to get in a little cute, and his person,

and he said, his father, he said, my more great Firtte. And then after that

the infirmier arrived, and he he said, the image of my chum with his

son who meur, in a little bonoom, who's like, then after that, my son said, you've been pretty reacted like that, because you've

seen your chum in regarding his father to mourn, it's perhaps that's been that's been conscious that's, you know,

he, who, he, who came to die, that's, it will be he's really something that

something that has been traumatized I, I think, a life, because I'm didn't, you know,

we'd know, but I'd not to live that. And we would be that

the person part, we'd say that everyone would be in, like the person part,

when Andre's on Aye, well, that's that's all right, that's, but when he is part,

I'm, I've seen physically, and I, I've already about that with other people who

have assisted to an event, to be medical to mourn, it's so difficult, because it's difficult,

the person die. It's the end of his life you assist to that it's a

great privilege but it's very confrontant also we're all we're all over

a more of a miracle medical, we're all just pass there and it's very confrontant

and it exacerbed my fear of to live to live to be I'm

again I've got something that you could be you can do you think the

medical to if it if it's yeah I think I'm totally view

suffering my bo-pair there had a cancer and it's a moment it's a runny a cancer double so it's two the two of the

poulom it's when I was when I'm my chum I've encountered his family

and he was he was quite quite he'd very much this monsieur that he'd be

he'd be he'd be there he'd be in Valdear and there's any he'd say I don't know I think he

was going to close to 70 but he said he said he did all what he had really

a fran and he done it always he said a mentor also for the economy

local but I have seen the effect of the life in the years

of his and the impact that it has on the the change

the change physical to see someone who is like in a

well a a point normal an an allure normal in the guemate

and then to be frail also, the, all these changes that, the force that's

going to be that's in the fatigues, the fatig constant, and it's for that decided that

it's sufficient it. It was like a mor that's a little foot. So,

I think if I was in a situation similar, I'd do you try

the way, yeah, I'm I mean, I've not assisted to the end medical to

mourn't, but I've used a lot of these studies that's out presentment on the dewee also of the

medical to because it's a doye that's difficult for the people, because yes, it's beautiful

how, but, you know, I'm a minute I've been my mother has been in my mother, she's on

medical, but she's not going to get to work, I'm trying to work with what she's trying to Mark Claude,

you know, how you know, how you know, well, I just I just came to make the date of the death of my

my mother in my agenda. And what I said in the study in the study, it's a

difficult to have to have a date to, you know, it can be your

can be your parent but it can be your to make that to make that to make that

to have there are there some there there are in this form of more that

to say to say to say, okay but he's there You know, there's a There's a lot of

You know, when you read all that, there's a positive, but it's kind of a deil that's different, that's something there's something that

there's a partying to say, but it's a because he's decided to part that you're in pay. And at the

beginning, we said, well, like the person has decided to part to that, we'll have

more of pain, but it's not true. There's not more of pain. There's not anticipation also, and,

no, you're not, you're not no more of pain. It's a point. It's a deil, it's not a deil, it's not a deign, so it's not a doye that's not a deign, but all that's just a very

dewee, it's a deil, it's a deil that's a very intense also, but I don't know, it would be really malade, we'd say, presentment, I'd have a misery to abdiqued.

My, my mother had never wanted abdiqued at the end, she'd ever, she'd never, he'd be offered to offer, the medical to die, and she said,

no, no, I'm still, I'm still able to, and a moment there, there's a medicine who is who said, we've said, we

know, we're saying, we're doing, the profile of people who will demand the medical to move,

and she'll be able to never. Because, she had to have been abisket. She would she, she

would have abandoned. She's an abandon, she's an old, a defect. She had a

real of perception, yeah. Philosophy, your mother, it was, she,

like, a lot, completely, completely. And, but, it was, it was,

it's like, it's it's like she said, the cancer he ganger not. She wanted to prove something.

Yes, until at the end. And at the end she said, well, she'd he'd be

called Antoine on his cancer. She said finally, there's nothing because he

will be going to see, it's like that. It's quite pretty but it's

but it it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's not, it's not again,

it's not the profile perfect, because we can see not how we'll see Now, I don't know if I would have this profile. But it's sure that the

Duller, and also, when you see what's coming, there are many who are people who are going to live these steps, so... Yeah, the quality of life. One of... I think that's that, in the case of the Bo-Pererer,

who he has made to make this decision, it's a totally a degradation constant of his quality of life that, after that you're going to be, it's...

It's going to be better. So, I think it's there that you, you know, you've made a choice at a moment don't know, it's difficult to to do it

when you're not faced to the situation but when you see when you see what you're going to do,

at least I'm in a little way, you know, I'm trying, I'm trying my reverence of a

way but we would be really that I've made an interview with Annie Peltier who had

to live Lyme medical, it was it had been to be legalized and she she said,

what is important if you do you do that's to make on your door

not not, you know, because she said, it's really a moment, you know, if you're at your, you know, I'm saying, you know, you know, you know, you've got to garched that, you know, because we're, you know, especially, at least, they were not used to live that, but, you know, she, and she, and she, she, she, she said,

she had never seen, my parents s'embrassed, on the bush, and they're just before, you, it's, you know, I received, see, a guy who, his two parents had had the same malady, and they've been in the same time. Oh, my God, okay. You know, you know, I mean, he said,

my parents were good, but, you know, rest. It's it's kind of difficult. Yeah. But, you've lived also, you know,

you've been never to live that, but, you know, see, not, I'm not what I'm saying, I think,

I think, I think, it's, you know, it's an option that's that's a country that never they've

ever, they've ever, they've made a malice, but it's an option that's important. When you're not the

business, you don't necessarily to have to have to have to have to but it exists for years

this concept that's the same, I have the impression of the years to find to suffer of a person

who is in end of life the term legal now it's encodered but we see that

in the programs that of certain epoch that it was made in total conscience

and an entente between the parties yeah there was there was there was

it was not it wasn't not a ramach Is it Arest and So you're ready to pass And you go

And you want It's a change Of course I've seen We've seen To me and ask To me on Passed

One Four You can't You can't You can't Just one For example Okay

I thought I had four I had not There's a A card A card A card Cache

A card Cache? Thank you Preferer to Seduire Or to Seduing? How do

Your Amourue Trove in Rita Baga? What have you wanted to say on the sexuality

at 20 years, is you comfortable in the sphere of the intimacy? Hmm.

It's rare in plus, I'm that I'm answer this sort of question

that I'll choose the I'm well um um

um What's I would have to say about on the sexuality at 20

years? Well, I'd want to respond to that. At 20 I'm

I'm working in the bar it's a period that I had to roll my

boss not much but I'm I'm at the night I'm at

the school at university the morning and the afternoon and the other

employ like in parallel so I was very occupied And I've not

had not a model to me to me to learn what is the sexuality in the

community of the diversity sexual and I've seen I've seen I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

reprise of a show Britannick a series a fiction that is like not a first series

in which we had some protagonists gay ensemble it's like a click

of six amy that had each a casting particular, the interlo, the little young, the neud, the style, there were all their style.

And, I was in the adolescence when I saw, and it responded to a lot of questions that I had, on the sexuality in a fashion general. There, after that, you know, there's, you know, there's experience that's fun, some, there's people that

arrive and that part. But when I had 20 years, I had not, we'd say the affairs on the sexuality that I'd have, it was

kind of some of the cause, and I've never been in couple not quite

it's a lot of a lot and I'm the impression that I have been public

because of that because I have a miscknowance of the sexuality and because

I've been also not very in my poe and there there was there was

not time of application we we were doing we're doing

sometimes I'm less selective in the people in the exploration

exploration corporal and that it was a regret because I think in fact to be less selective you, you're learning things

and you're more in the queue but I'd be more be more informed of plenty of things of these practices different there I'm not

of positions these practices sexual different the communities I didn't not as that at around the communities

for me there had two two types of gay if you were that you were a gym queen that we called someone

full-in-a-musk, or you're a little twink, a little meg, you know, it's that's so that I saw that you

know how there's a lot of communities that I'm a community fetish, the poppil, the sills, I know,

I know that all that all the after that I'd be in couple very long time, celibate

maybe three months, and there I'm in couple before six, seven, you know,

I think if I, had seen plus of things on the different communities,

the different practices also, I'd probably more explore at 20 years because I did it,

I'd with what I knew, so what I had wanted to know to say to see

now, I've made to know to say to say, is that would have done

the confidence? Is what, you know, what's that would have Also, like human, like person, as an individual, you know,

there are people at 20 years, they know what they want, what's they like, what they're, we'd say, we'd rather in a phase exploratory. So, it's sure, that it would have to be, if I had all right, now, at 20 years, I think that I'd have been

more emancipated, probably, more prud, you know, even the drags, my colleagues and my friends, and my friends, drag, me, make, I make, make, I make, there

on the fact that I can have Prude, because I talk pretty rarely of sexuality. There's a there's a

company who present a object in the podcast, and I'm I'm asking to not be there if I'm drag, because I

don't know not that we associate the personage to the sexuality, it's important to separate the tricks,

but I'm also in my life personal because it's rare it can't be an little story to rose

I'll a black grivoise, and then when I when I'm on large, not even

actually, but it's certainly the effect of surprise, the world are like, my God,

what's the thing, it's rare, you're it's crue like that, so it's really in

my little circle of limited that I'm lost, I'm a certain pude of a way

of a general. Because you you're at last in the intimacyity? Yes, I'm alice

in the intimacyity. You see all this level that, but more, you know,

I have some, you know, I've made some of my of my friends, I say, sometimes I have the impression

to live my sexuality at the time because it's very long time that I'm in a couple back-a-back

with people. He's he's more in the time in the end up, he's like, he's going to

get to be at a place, he's been to get to this person and I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm the impression to listen, to listen, I'm, I'm,

and I'm like I'm like I'm a party of my sexuality at the through you, you know,

I know just a life, It's the conversations that we have after a certain time also we're saying to do something

we're doing this we're doing that we're doing that but I'm I realize that the sexuality that so in my

circle of it's not too taboo that in another circle of my person and people

this grand circle that so co-toe and it does it too much information okay it's

we, we we don't need to know we're not For example, the men gay to have sexuality

and it's it's been with the models that we've used like Jean-Loo in a little life, you know,

these models that be rose that's always that's, oh, my love, it's time, but it's not

that's not all the world that's like I think we've got a representation a bit false of the

sexuality at the women gay, but in the time I don't know all the people, there's

that's a lot of people who are in my circle of my, let's say. No, no, but it's very that there's new ones, because we're not in the caricature, no, no, no. It's that,

we're going to retain these characters, but it's just the characters. And there are more, there also. We're more in the verity, now, in the

feinton, and there's, that I, I'm, I do often, and I think, because I think that I, I think, I think if I if I had used

to access to what the young already have access in terms of the person queer, it would have facilitated the view on

plenty of things of the questionements that we have or so the representation at the TV it's important at the

level of the people racisised the people of the diversity sexual and there are there are to

more I think that the people can't think the people can finally to find

this media that that will permit to respond to question that we can

have to be or without posed, because we're confronted in a situation. I see a lot of things in the new new series that

talk of polyamor, who's also of pansexuality, it's not these subjects that were aborted really, there 15, 20, 20,

25 years when I were more young and then I had regarded the TV, you know, there had one personage gay, perhaps,

there were one lesbian in the yeah, there were more and it's not in the the auto derision. No.

It's these real personalities. You know, like in empathy, I don't know if you've got to listen to it's incredible

but you know, there's an intervenant you know, you know, it's a guy but we're feminized

there's a nonbinar, it's Claude exactly. No, but it's a beautiful person that

is a person unbearer also, the doffin your name of his name makes mania

I think a few years it's one-one actorist How we know How we know How we see

What kind of When we use When we're using when we're When we're talking about When we're When they're Of this person I think we'll

We don't We don't I'm always A trick A quick Ascent To avoid It's always

To get a Pranon A pronoun Mett a pre-na A place When you're When you When you talk

of the person, or the other to say, it's a repete the name of the person. That's so,

so you need to your name. Yeah, you demand your name, and you can ask you

do you know, and you can't say, ah, well, Claude, that's all, she'll,

she'll be she. Well, I'm decline, so. Ah, yeah, so, so,

so, but that's a magnificent person, I mean, so you know, but you're in the

phone, it's he also, but it's Claude also, but I am

this personage that that, that we see, I mean, it's, you know, it's, I mean, it's, it does, it's, you know,

it's, it's, it's, yeah, and how, it's called Josie, Josie de Chene,

yeah, who's, who makes, the, the, she has, the difficulty, actually,

to, actually, to bring, the good conjugation, or the bonnone, and he's always,

okay, okay, uh, person, gentie, gentie, you, it's,

it's, it's, it's, It's, it position a little the malise that have certain people to want to be

well, you know, I think it's going to be in the two sense also to people to us reprint in a certain fashion

pollymant, you know, when you see that the intention is not, you know, it's to say it's the

bar and the other, I know, it's sure that it's a long conversation but it's preferable

to the demand and, and in fact, what is preferable is also to not assume

in part of what you see, it's what you see. It's what is often reproached when the

people are doing because we assume well, you know, you know, you know, you know, a woman,

so I'm going to say it's not always like that. It's not all the people, it's automatic.

What's they're like, it's, it's like, it's sure that we're doing these errors,

we're in the human but when when someone repran if I'm by my guard,

me garred or not use the good pronoun I'm thank you remember

the person to have said, thank you thank you well as to show and to say

well, I'm I'm already I'm I'm there's a festival Firted

for a long time there people who had their name tag with the

pronouns and uh thank my my beau it's my my

my name my name it's my my beau and the world so b'clock

why why you're choose to pass one minute of your to abstin

someone on the way to you know, you know, you identify how you're fluid?

I'm not, the only thing is clear in the way, that's that's a person female

so when I'm in Rita and that when the people say, he's

who, or, P, even more my real name when I'm in Rita

there something we're not, there's something, there's, there's,

and I, see, and I see, that the people, I think especially to those who see them after the spectacle there are people

who are people who they're not like they're talking and they're often the people and they're an impression that's a mark

of respect if you're saying thank you for what you do you say for what they're saying that they

want that they want to they're not they're not they're not I'm saying I'm I'm trying

to see but at each every it's like I'm like I'm a gross pireck an 80's at

time. And see, I'm I'm going to I'm going to It's a lot of, it's It's always I'm used to because I'm used to

because of my colleagues of there's a lot of drag, that's even not their non-legal. Because when

we were at cabaret, we'd see, and there's good friends, I think to Tracy Trash,

that I think that you know, it's Mark André, his name on plus, it's the fun, he's a

career, it's super good, in the time, he's quite the time, or is he does it,

he's really he's really he's really, Mark Andres, if I call Mark André, it's more serious. But, you know, it's a few years we've been amy,

but we're at a bar and bar, hey, Tracy, he's got a chapo, you know, and we're used to, and he's just, it's a droll for

the people around often, to be to be a person, that we're called by these pronouns, you know, in the case Tracy,

it's, it's kind of a bit nebuleu, but, you know, I'm with Marla, Barbada, Mona, if the world

we're looking we're not macchi and no no that's the bit of you know it's not

it's not it's always it's always it's still a bit weird but I think it's a

cause of that I'm that I'm don't know it's it's not the ill and I'm

and I'm I'm I've seen because I'm gonna a bianca gerva at a moment a moment of

we talked we're on a we're trying on something and I'm I'm I'm

she's naseoes a thing and she she's if you're if you're insult. I said,

well, I said, because I told you're conned, and then you said, you know, I'm never saying,

oh, I'm bright, she's beautiful. And then it's like, it's like, it's like, it's true,

it's true at the interior? I'm just that, that I'm trying to be like, misogine over me

same, I mean, I don't know, because I didn't, that I'm doing that I'm done that I'm

last time, I'll ask you a person creative, you know, I try to, it's it's true, it can be very, it's, if you just

talk to, if you're just talking to, you know, because it's not a place, you know, I don't know, I don't know what, it's an attitude there, I think,

because in the community, we're in drag, we have more an insult facile, on to us, you know, don't be con,

example, that you're don't be con, you, so, we're so, we're so, it's, so, it's so, we're so, it's so it's all

so, it's so, so, it's really that's, it's really to, you know, yeah, You have changed just like his language Interne. Yeah, because

you're in plus you'd say far. Yes, in plus. You're talking to far. Yeah, well, so that's so. Dernier.

Yeah. Yeah, it's all changed to color, again. We're parted. We're parted. What would think,

the young Jean-Francois of Rita Bagan? The little guy at the church, I shanted? I've

had been a person janeed long time. Again today, I've had a certain reserve. The affairs that

Rita has made, I'd not have not true just at the time that's

practically because I did the things, animated of St. John in 20,000

people, do these see, make these some, these great events,

the great opportunity, voyage and I'm going to my person and create

a book, sort of the product, it's it's great

my friends my friends my friends you're in trying to do you're in your own your own life to your perfume

but you're but you're everywhere but I adore this coate entrepreneurial there and I think

it's a other part of to show to make it to make it accessible during the

dark if you go at S. Cue and you have a bout with my face

on where you don't know at a perfume with my face to be

to have to be Archambe you have my book you can see at my

album, you know, it's these products, yes, but it's a great space, there's a grand chain, there's a drag queen that's a face

there. So, I'm fascine, you and it's sure that it's part of work, and it's some of the time, but

that it's a time, but I don't that the young Jean-Francoa would have thought a day to

see this opportunity that on the on the commercial in the commerce also I'm

I think again, it's, when I got my album is out of February,

I've been at Chambot of Boucherville where is I was going and then I'm trying, I'm going,

the first the day he was not there, so I'm back on I'm back, I'm back,

and he was there, and the feeling to be the album physically to be

at Chambot to Boucherville, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not,

it's all a lot, it's it's a long time it's a long time,

it's a project, it's a rave, before even that I start a drag so there's there was something

surrealist so the young Jean Jean Jean-Franso he'd not, and there sometimes

I don't think of the opportunities to do things that I do you do you would be

Is he would be? Is he could think he could think that? Yes, yes,

there's quite a past to play with the rob of his amy, try the

robber to some make of the characters, that it's a long time I've done. We did, we did some time at Newel.

And then I was doing the characters feminine. My father had been able to imagine a little. I thought with the characters

feminine, again today, it's often that I think the more fun. It's the more complex and visually

also, it's perhaps what I'm interested the kind of kind of creative, that I have the

modern. I'm going to magazine, I'm going on two-cote I'm going to a magazine of a large

surface, I'm there's a section a section woman, I'm going to return in the section

home, it's often what you're there's white, black, black, black, black,

black, there, there's quite, there's a same model everywhere. There, you're going to

go to the other bar, you, you have some stuff, you, there's a froufrew, you, you have some part that

that's this he would say Rita, he would probably agreeably surprised to, okay, you're going to just like that. You know, there's something of incredible on the kind of reserve that I've had long time. I'd say, I'd say, maybe, maybe

make, and then the world am your personage who keeps these tenues extravagant. There's something that, no, I don't, I think, at 15, 16, I'd have thought that, that's my in the future. In fact, I'd like to

be a genetician. That's my fascination with the mutants, genetician or designer of mode. It's my two choice.

Well, you're not designer of mode, but you do you do you fabric your mode also. We can't you know, you

get a duality something, you know, genetician, yeah, these an hour of mode. That's in my album of

finishing in primar. But we're that's a large, a spectrum. Yes, you see, I the spectre large. You see the spectre large.

It's the question eros? Yes, it's so. It's a spectro large. We're sorry. Tell me, what's what we'd want? To do you want, what's going to do? The health, the calm,

the pleasure, you know, the pleasure, you know, of the bonoer. I think we all to do you have access to the bonoer? Yes,

I think, I think, yes. You have you the bono of facile? Yeah. Yeah.

You get a show also. A little a little rayonement interior that's a good quality. I'm, I'm,

I'm so the pleasure, the bonner and when I think it's there, to not get it,

to not interrom something, to, to be, to be profite, yeah, it's so, I,

it's precious. You know, there are people who don't have access to easily to be

right, or who feel to have access also. There's that, the culpability

but, But, I don't never this pleasure that. But, you know, the pleasure it's in the life,

but it's, it's, it's, it's the moment that you don't know, it's just when people

say, yeah, I think that's that's the podcast will say that, but, you know, I'm going to

go to go and I'm going to go to come, I'm going to come, no, but for real, that, we're we've been

on a moment and you think at your dog, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm glad with you,

I'm just I'm , I'm fatiked a minute. I don't know I'm I'm sure if you're

why why? Well, yeah, it's it's a there's a there's a

lot of at six hour and a minute because if I'm macke we're turning

at 8 or 9 hour and the day we're at the she's in the world

in the and I'm there's eight and nine hour there's I'm

going to I'm to come to be in my night and it's like it's really

I'm fatis of my matine but I'm not pissy, I'm going to be fatigued because I've been pretty much

dormy, but I've got had been to find, you know, because you know, you're talking to, you know, that's not comfortable in this zone that, but we don't know when it can't start so, so, you know, I'm not that I'm saying, you know, I'm saying,

but I'm saying, each moment could be the last so, so, so, so, I'm, it's a bad moment, me, let's try, I've got, you, you know, people, you know, they're living, you know, they'll live, you know, they're, you know,

it's not an obsession, but but I'm still concerned of that. And it's not all the time sometimes you're in going to go it's very correct

you know, you're not in trying to live a moment but when you see the kind of stats of

pleasure or that you would be not more that's that's good you're not not more

if you're if you're you're saying you're saying you're saying if you're saying I'm saying I planifie

for that tomorrow I'm going to be in mended you know, you're going where, you're to go to

and then you go, in plus it's a a bit fear of missing out the foamot the part of to make something

if there's there's a there, I'm not that the faux mo I see, I'm doing my chum,

he's very faux mo if he's parted and he's not there, he will have mentioned

many times and then we're working there's if we're in the we're in the bonnour

now, we're we're in some we're just we're in our cocooning at our That's our

next date that's the night, that's the different, everyone with our console time on time

we're doing a little check up, it's going to yeah, we're doing, we'll continue, we're in

one hour well, thank you thank you very much, it's been a real bonner,

thank to the invitation I'm I'm I'm sure this card for you for you know

well, you're being very gentie so, then it's at what you know that's,

at what I don't. Larges spectre. Large. Large. It's the word of order. Thank you. Thank you.

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