Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #119 Jarry | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette
Episode Date: September 1, 2025Je savais qui était Jarry: un humoriste, metteur en scène, acteur et aussi animateur français. Je ne le connaissais pas personnellement. Dès qu’il est entré dans le studio, j’avais déjà l�...�impression de savoir qui il était. Une impression de déjà vu.C’est un homme d’une grande sensibilité au regard profond. Il ne se désiste pas quand vient le temps de répondre aux questions, il est volontaire. Quand il parle de son rôle de papa, l’émotion est aux rendez-vous. Quand il parle de son père, on comprend le long chemin pour arriver à lui. Jarry nous parle de son amoureux avec éloquence. À quelques moments, il a tourné le miroir vers moi. J’ai dû répondre à ses questions, et ce, avec une certaine émotion.Un homme à découvrir!━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:14:28 - Cartes vertes00:40:50 - Cartes jaunes01:01:23 - Cartes rouges01:07:06 - Cartes Eros01:17:27 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.
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in fact,
to read your comments.
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And then you also
that the comments
that you're
in the different publications
and the different
resos, social,
it's a echo
also at the other
who lise.
And that's interesting.
Returne-vore
the field of comment.
You'll go see
There's often, there are some people who will even
you respond. And so, I like that, because
we're going to open your show, it's a create a community
of exchange, and a community
also very, very,
very respectuees. And that,
I'm very proud of
all these comments, who are always
porter. So often, you
also, you confier, partage
some of the order of the intimate.
So, thank you. And
thank you to everyone, to have a respect
also, on the different pages.
We appreciate grandly. We have joined.
We have Joanne who
about the episode
with Kim Ross
and she says
Bravo.
She reign and
savour the quarantine
at the op
of my 70
years.
I realize
that I've
lived all my
life at the
defense
of the
other,
to see the
solutions for
the other
and that it
is great
time for
me to
get the
gun.
We can
feel
this
time at
all age
now
I'm
depose.
Thank you
Kim.
That's
it's a
lesson
of life.
It's a
young
woman
of
40
years,
and that
it's a
echo
to someone
of an
other generation
or someone
who has 70
years.
I think that
extraordinary.
When we
talk to
the intergenerational
I think
always we
don't know
that we're
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be able to
talk and
to bring
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who nomes
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and that
Joanne,
she has
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Cynthia
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discovered your
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there
a
few
I've almost
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It's a
very terrible
therapy,
it's interesting,
all what we
can discover
about about
of the
personalities
public that
we're doing.
It's
all right,
but we
make us
to ask
some questions
in the
time,
open
your
show,
fie,
a
great,
thank you,
and I
think,
and I think,
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people who
come in
these people,
I think,
I'm,
to come,
to come,
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their life,
the moment,
these times
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I think
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Today, it's
a encounter
that I had
very hard to
do,
that I've
failed to do
the winter
but it
has not
functioned
in the
hour.
It's a
French,
he's called
Jari.
Jari,
has six
million of
people who
do you
see on
the
social.
He has
a community
extremely
engaged.
What it
It's when he does a post on his
radio social,
there's a lot of reaction.
His community is live.
It's a person who has
a lot of empathy,
very charismatic.
It's an animator,
a meter in scene,
an actor,
and presently he comes
to Quebec because
he is humorist,
so he participates.
In fact,
he has participated
because at the moment
when you'll see that,
it's re-a-all-just-for-hire.
He will return.
on the springtime
to present
his spectacle
Bonhomme.
So it's an honor
for me.
It's a honor for me.
It's a person that I
know not, but that's
with us
during a few
minutes, and
perhaps a couple
hours, we'll
let us arrive
at a part of
now, I want to
to you say,
Place to Jari.
I'm going to
see Papa, and
do so I'm saying,
okay,
so this sexuality
that I'm not
chose,
that I'm
imposed by the
life,
the fact that
I don't
be a
father.
And at
33,
34,
I'm
said,
it will
have to
become
because
if there's
there's
more of
sense,
I think,
the
right to
transmit,
the
right to,
oh,
la,
why it's
me
so I'm
so,
the
right,
to open
when you
come
to come
to
just a
voice
who
says
Papa.
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these experts
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on Mariclaude.com.
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Original and
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are available
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So,
as I
said in introduction,
I'm content
today because
it's a
person that I
never met
and it's
rare that
it's rare that
every time
it may
in a state
of curiosity
very, very
advanced.
It's a
very much
to discover
a new
human.
I've seen
on the
social,
I've
heard of
talking about,
very
positively.
He's
is with us
today because
he's
to
passage
to
Montreal.
Welcome, Jari.
Goodsawr.
Goodsawar.
I don't know
when you're
there.
There's not
there.
There's not
for consuming.
No, exactly.
But it's
that's the fun.
It's like the fun.
It's like the
I'm happy
to be here.
And I'm not
more, we're
on the tutoy.
Oh, yeah,
we're suitor.
We know,
we're also
very excited.
And I think
that the people
who accord
to time
to others
for
them make
in light
are fortunately
of these guides
who
merit also
to be heard
so I'm
happy to
see a lot
because you have
something
you've seen
the people
because you're
coming in
studio you
you know you
you mean
you see some
you see
because I think
that nothing is
anodding
I think
if today
we're in
it's the
moment
to see
this is the
moment to
see I'm
because I'm
always
impressioned
in an
time
where we swipe
very
on the
things,
to have two
hours
to bring the
time to
make the
people in
to listen
and to
discover
their history.
I think
we're in
the way
and not
of what we
don't know
and I
think that
to have
this time
to be
that's
great.
How
you'd
how you
would
how you
do you
do for
the plan
professional
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I think
I think
I'm
much
too
to point
to
to
to point to
what he
us opposes, our differences,
so I think that
there are 99.9% of
things that we
attract and that
we find that we can
live together.
I have an impression
that we'll let's
the power to
the extreme
today, that the
grand majority
silencius
has even
more want to
be to be able to
make a
point of view.
And, I
think I
see the example
of the
that we're
not there, and
I'm not
a hater
on this sort of
things.
I'm not
all the
communities,
all the
religions,
all the
colors of
poe, all the age. And that's
really what gives
to do sense to my
life. And you've always been like
that? I've always been like that.
I've been a child very...
The professor had convoyed my parents
in their saying, I think he's autist,
until the age of 11 years, because I
didn't talk to all. I observed
the people. I'm not obliged
to talk. And then, after,
I've been a lot of
talking to have a
difference that they'd see physically. I'm
very effeminate. So, I don't
appertained to any group. I
I was always the choice in the last.
And when I'm,
at the time, I've lived in my life,
I've lost a lot of people very
very late, very tall,
and that I've taken conscience
that it was really
changed my life.
It's a day,
I've decided,
to all the way,
that more person
would be able to be
to mind and that I'd
be the person,
so that I'd never
let the power to others.
That I'd have the power
and that I'd have
to do every second,
of each minute of my
life,
like if it was the
last and also
a way
to say to my parents,
you have not
made the
love for the
I'm going to
the chance
that you've given
to be in life.
That's really
something very
important for me.
You're an actor
you do the
music, you're also
a humorist,
you're in
in a time
humorist
presentment,
and you're
particularly also
because you
go to see
the people
in the
and what I
remember also
is when you
go to see
when you go
when you're
in their
bules,
you're in
the bubble.
There's a
of proximity
physical when you
talk.
But I
adore
to get
people in
my bra.
It's very
complicated when
I go to
do in the
country
where the culture
is to
keep in the
time.
I'm going to
do you have
to make
to make
to do you
I think that
great.
And what's
that you
get to
to get to
people?
For more
they have the
time to
think,
let the
psychology
to intervene
in our
interaction.
I think
when we
at distance
the
things,
it's that
we make a
recule,
it makes
an
analysis, to
say,
oh,
what's the
what I'm
what I'm
what's the
thing,
what's the
thing is the
thing,
if I'm going
to say,
it's a
very,
very close,
there.
And,
it's an
immediateity that
I'm in fact.
I'm
can't feel.
We can't
feel like,
we can't
feel like you
I'm very
to get to
embrace, and
that's a
side, and that
he has a
car, and that
his wife
and that's
saying,
ha, ha, ha,
and I'm
a little
a little bit
a bit bit,
it's a
way,
We're
too
to be too
to be
too
let's go.
All right
let's go.
Is
that you
ready to
open to
your
I'm not
I'm not
I'm
I'm sure
I'm
I'm in
because
I know
that you
have
this
love
of the
human
I'm
I'm not
to
have no
to
taboo
I'm
I'm
to respond
to
all the
question
and
you're
you're
you can
you can't
you can't
I'm
you're
to
explain
how
it
function.
There are
these
levels.
Wow.
There are the
level
green.
It's some
these questions
I'd say
more general.
Okay.
The questions
that's
the questions
that I could
not know
who you
would be
I'd
put to put
the questions
jones
who do you
have the
people become
more personalized
the questions
red
that are
kind of
the order
of the
intimate.
There's
the level
eros and
company,
sensuality
sexuality.
All right at this question.
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And we're
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That's really
a nice way to
finish this
encounter that,
where we'll
depose the
avion,
and maybe
you'll be
not, but I
let's kind of,
you know,
sometimes, you
think it's
you know,
you're not
to answer.
The minute
that you depose
the Joker,
we change
to change
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the cards, you can they bracer on the table.
You're going to me and five.
I adore.
You like that.
Yeah, I adore.
Because, you know, you're trying to try to cart, also.
No, but I adore.
I adore. I adore.
I adore.
And I adore the visual.
Yeah.
I like that.
I don't give five.
Peen and forth the sense.
A bit more than the sense.
Peat me.
Poo import.
It's a man.
So I'm going to let me
You're going to choose
One to which
To have to respond
And after that I'll
So you'll answer
So you'll respondra
To responder to two questions
Of course
Okay
So let's see
I'll read
What's the one
The most
When I'm
When I'm
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Really
It's really
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17, 17,
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So, it's
that.
What sort of
infant
were you?
It's so
cute.
It's the question
that I wanted
to answer.
For real.
Because I think
I think I'm a
infant
for you,
an infant, it's
more of 10
on, we're
of course.
After,
we're in
after we're
to talk to
like in the
little
infance,
the first
young
infance.
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it's correct
that you're
that you're
adolescence, young
adult.
I've been
long time
I've been
after I'm
after I'm
in a family
of a vignoron.
My
mother had
in the
viney and
my father
was founder.
He cooled
these pieces
of the
car,
he'd
put it in
the mule,
he was the
sole to
do that.
He was
dead at
53
because he
had
because he
had been
very hot
so.
So,
I was
in a
place
very
and very
very agricultural.
I have
three frere
who were
all footballer,
chasseur,
pecheer.
And in which
rank?
And I'm the
third
on four.
And I
had my
time to
to read in
my chamber,
to me
to make
to be in
watching in the
mirror,
and I
passed some
hours to
dance.
So I
had really
the impression
of having
been
even physically
I
didn't
not to
my
friends.
And I
remember six,
seven,
I've said
to have
said to
has fotee? Is
you
have
encountered
someone
who has
correspond not
at the
environment
family?
So I
have gone
in that
I've
had the
chance
to have
a man
very
very
very
very
emmante
who has
all right
that's
a different
that I
had a
other
sensibility
that
when my
frere
and my
father
re-of-
the
chas
with the
jibier
I
was
in the
same
in the
I mean, I'd watch Sissy the Imperatrice
on the TV with my
mother.
Sicyle Empress,
it's a...
Yeah, but we're
listening to
in Quebec,
yeah, yeah.
So,
I've been
this infant
there, I
made the poise
so I'm really
until 9,
10 years,
I've been
this infant
who had
very few of
a couple of
a school,
I'd
not,
I'd
pass my time
to rave
to comedy
musical,
to dance,
I've seen
a film
that I've
bouleversed at seven
years,
that's called
the Cirque
of Poets
Disperu.
And I
had the impression
that
this film
he had
been written
for me.
It was
this
child who
had been
in cachette
of his
parents,
to do
other things,
to do that
do that
to learn the
poetry,
so that
for us
to be
a vignoron,
I'd
reprint,
it's
that you
know,
it's done
a regard
exterior,
this film
that,
completely.
You're
you're not
to be
to be
to be
to be
to be
I was talking
on a
proff
at the
college who
has said to
my
marriage,
he's really
to get to
talk about the
so we're going to
do you're doing
a bit of
the day,
and the
year of
the day,
she'll be
to bring a
crush of
that you
will get to
when I
will tell you
to do that
you're just that
to do you
make a
crushed
on the crushed
on
on the scene
that's
that's a
car, that's
has changed
my life.
I'm saying,
it's me
that's me
that's made
make make
riguel
the people
the people have
And the year of
after I made
the role
principal
at the
first time
that you
felt exist in
the regard
of the other
Yeah, completely
it was that
and it was
that it was
that I had
had made
that I had
made,
you know,
something
that was an
accident
but it was
that accident
that had created,
a situation,
that had
panicked,
yeah,
I mean,
I panicky,
uh,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
I mean, I mean, it's a fine
to life for me.
You know, when you
do you do for not
be seen, and that you're
because it's passed
this accident there,
that's not pre-vue,
and in the same time,
it's saved because
I said, okay,
I can create
an emotion
at the other.
That's observed.
You know,
by the way,
I mean,
I don't know,
I don't,
I don't,
I don't know,
I'm not,
I'm a infant
I was a infantrists. I've seen a
question. I've got a lot of...
Have you all the time?
I had a couple. I had a couple. I was with
the... I was with my
coppines who had, so she had a
apparel d'enter and that person...
You know, I was with...
You know, the mal-a-emey-me, what.
And we formed a super association.
But I'm not too...
I have not more of the same. I'm just
that my mother has saved the life. I do you do all the time.
How she'd have saved the life?
in being in
in the
world,
she's not
it's not right,
it's not
going to
dance in your
chambre,
I'm
I'm going to
your
and then
you said
you'd say that
you'd
to like
mimed your
oh,
but how
we're
how we
can't
to be a
grand
tragedian
so I'm
so much
it's
tragic
I'm
my quette
that I
put in a
semblance
to marchet
and I
I would have to look at face of my honor, I was like,
oh.
And then you'd
and there, I'd move.
And there were
always a little surceau of
Oh!
Is that you've
already played that for real
by the next?
And when I
had started my career
of actor,
I've played
the myth of
Perce,
I'd play Perce,
and the pair
of percy
died in
his bra
but I've
been over
three weeks
because the
cell was morted
to rire.
I'd
I'd arrive
not to...
To play the drama.
She was there
Papa,
you're asking
to make sure
the people who said.
So,
when you were
in a cell,
I'm going to
say,
it's not possible
in fact.
Fade the
humor.
At each
that I've
wanted to
make people,
I've
made people,
I'm trying.
And is
that you
make the
humor?
Well,
yeah.
It's
for a
problem because
it's like
your
nature.
Yeah,
and then
I think,
I'm
I'm in
peace with
my arc
emotional.
You know,
I'm
you know,
how do you know how many, there's an emotion
that we can
play at the theater?
I don't know.
The median
people say a dozen.
Yeah.
There are 48.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
And I'm
so...
It's a lot of
subtility.
Yeah.
And I'm
like, you know,
in my life
to go,
to make it
to light
its subtilities.
It's like
the round
of the emotions
that we see
to decline,
it's like,
it's like,
it's 98
in the font.
Exactly.
You have the
color
and then you're
all the
all the
It's genial to
manage.
You can't
say, I'm
going to be
if you're
just
sad, you know,
there's a
difference.
But this palette
that,
I've made
some issues on
this palette
of emotion
because I
thought it really
interesting.
You know,
you know,
you know,
because it
can't just
say,
I'm just
say, I'm
just saying,
it's going
to do,
it's sare
in the life,
it's
all the
world of the
communication,
it's
much more
clear.
When we,
when we're
able to
really
to make a
dot on
the emotion
that we
can't
because if
we're
to talk
or I'm
not the same
that's not the
question.
No, you're
reason,
it's so.
So,
you're talking,
you know,
because often
the people
say,
no,
I'm going to
say,
well,
they've
just need
to come
to come back
and saying,
well,
and so,
it's not,
we're doing,
because we
can't
keep the
and at
how old
you've
felt,
you're saying
part of
the more
than you,
doing part of
It's to be a part of a group.
Arrity to
stop to feel different.
Ah, I think I'm
always different
I'm still different.
You're still
on the same.
Ah, yeah?
Yeah,
that's the only
place that
where I have
the impression
to fete my
anniversary.
I mean,
the scene,
it's really,
you can not
be in
more of intimacy
than,
than when I
see on me
to be able to
see,
it's really
the place
of the people,
and I'm the
same time,
the people
are the same,
place for
you.
Yeah.
So it
does also
a permission
to be
completely
who we're in.
Yeah.
But even
when I'm
I'm in five
years, I
started to do
the first
galas
that people
know I'm
didn't
just the
mody
French,
I had,
I was, I'm
to be,
to be,
to be,
and the
people,
they're saying,
but it's
genial,
because we
have not that
we're not
this genre
of humor,
we're not,
the first
time I'm
sitting
on a
um,
who had in
in more, who
did,
who did,
how you
call it,
not the
cereal, but
the syro
of the reable.
Because I've
seen that you
have used to
he's a little
costo and
all, and I'm
doing, I'm doing,
I'm doing,
I'm doing,
I'm doing,
I'm doing,
I'm sorry,
it's so
you're talking
on your
and so,
I think
he'd ever
ever crossed
a man who
he had said
that in
his life,
he had
started to
and, and
he said it
I'm saying
I'm, I'm
the, I'm
your son,
I'm,
there's,
his wife
really gregolet. But I've
liked this
accuelly there, you know, I've
liked that we're
going to push
some
and that I'm
not at the
text, but that
I'm not
that's a
quarter-mure
really.
Yeah, because
you're empathic
also.
Yeah, but
too.
Too?
That, that
means that you
feel like you
feel like
all the time
suffer.
You know,
if I feel,
if I feel
that someone
not
it's a
pain.
And is,
is your
perception
or the person
to the person
to the
person
if it's just
I mean, I feel like to verbalize.
I feel like, I think there's a, there's a distance.
Sometimes, she's at certain
men, you know, who are,
who are, they're not going to get
in a seduction with me.
And I'm just, you know,
you can be homosexuals
without having to have
to have to be married,
without having to do you
have to do with all over
to all the women?
It's the same.
But, you're supposed to
get in an evitement.
But often, you know,
it's linked to my sexuality.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Is that it derange?
Well, if certain
men have
that I'm
saying they're
not responded to
their question.
After,
if I'm
the same way
to open a
little door.
Is it
you've opened
these little
doors?
Oh,
I'm afraid
even,
madam.
Oh,
yes.
Is that you
do you
do you know,
is you
yeah?
Well,
yeah,
because,
too
a lot,
it's a
great,
I thought,
I'm a
day to
talk about
that,
I'm
I'm trying
not the
risk
to
to know if
the people
will be
seduire.
You know,
I prefer
to be,
I don't
have been in
having been
to have been
or the women,
because
before I've
had seen the
women,
I'm sorry,
I'm sorry,
but I'm
sorry,
I'm sorry,
I think
she's been
ennuied
with me,
you know,
but why,
just at 27
years,
because at 27
years,
I'm
I'm not
I'm
not excepted
but you
know,
but not
really,
A little bit.
I knew that sexually
with the
women,
there were the
things that
I didn't have
to do you know,
because you
you were in
your own,
you know,
in the time
I said,
yeah this time,
yeah,
in my head,
I was verbalized
not,
I'm saying,
I'm saying,
I'm saying,
I'm not,
I'm sorry
to be sure of
to do that,
so far?
So,
so there,
I'm saying,
it's bizarre,
there,
there,
there's things
that I'm,
and then,
and then the
people,
they'd say,
man,
they'd say,
oh,
you know,
you know not too
you know
not too the
sex
and in fact
it's simply
that I had
not want to
you know,
I'd
pass more of time
they're doing
they're
doing the
way to be
you're having
kind of
some of
do you're
courtizate?
And I,
I'm not
seen at
the time.
In fact
the
the full
history
that's
I've had
with a
woman
I'm
and I'm
if we're
on
a man
or we're
so on
a
wow,
wow,
wow,
wow,
of all.
I said,
if you were, we, we're, we're, we're, we're,
and we decide
to be a fiancé,
and we invite
his friend who is
a courant of
the army
French, but where
they've never,
so I've never
ever met.
And the
veille of our
fiancé, I,
I'm in
his friend,
it's like
that, it's like
that, it's like
that, and
there, I'm
my first
relation really
with a man.
And,
she, she's
we're surepents
the
morning.
You see you?
And so, there's not a fiancée?
Ah, there's not
a few years?
But is it
salutaire for you
that's always?
No, no,
it's been very
hard for me.
It's horrible.
Because,
first, I've seen
a woman
for who I
had a lot of
sentiment,
very,
after it's
a rest of
so it's not
not even
an
stranger total,
but it's
it's difficult,
and I'm
and I'm
said,
but I'm in
fact,
I'm in fact,
I'm
so,
so,
there was
accepted
also
the decision.
And what
you've
felt
at this moment
to convince
that you
know that's
that's not
that's not
a lot of
I'm in fact
I'm called
a blockout
if you're
asking how it
can't
I'm capable
to be able to
but I
know that I
know that I'm
back with
the family
and I
had commenced
the men
and after
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
I'm in
a man with who
I've rested for
several years
you're able to
you're seeing
I'm sure
there was
there was
there's no doubt
I had
wanted to
have made a
project,
I'm sure
and I'm
and sexually
that corresponded
to be in the
question.
And you
have commenced
to respond to
the question,
you said,
you've opened
the door
also.
Yeah,
I think
I'm 47
years,
I'll have
48 years
the month
next,
I'm in
a generation,
I came
of the
country,
we're not
about
we're never
of homosexuality.
I'm
I've
discovered
that had
there's homosexuals,
I think
I'm
18,
10,
19,
and we
never
talked
to this
possibility
there. So, it's
true that when
I see
when I'm in
a possibility that
they're gay
and that they're
bad at the
verbalise, I'm
I'm doing, you
have you've already
asked you're gay?
And if there's
two solutions,
they're saying,
no, I'm not,
I'm not,
okay, the person,
it's not great,
and if they're
saying, yes, I think,
but I don't know
how to respond
to this question,
I am engaging
the dialogue.
I'm not
want to get some,
I don't want
that they go out
in some ways
to gock
to know if they're
their sexuality. I want
that they do
with someone who
will be respected.
I've seen
some of the
place in France
that were in
France, which were
very gloke
because it
was in case.
So, yeah,
today I would
want to be
pretty jolly
and that's
a good
souvenir.
But I think
that the
women have
had a
time,
you know,
where we
don't know
the question
of the
consentment,
this sort of
when you
when I
question to
my friends
today,
when I'm 50
years,
people who say,
my first time
it was not
bad.
My first
first time
it's not
a good
good story.
I don't know
because
I think
that the
women
are also
liberate
sexually
to accept
she also
to have
to have
to be able
to say
I'm able to
I'm not
I'm not
I'm not
I'm
to name
the name
the things
and not
just
want to
that the other
is a pleasure.
That's
It's been taboo long
We didn't, you know, we're
not quite enough, you know,
there's many, I think,
that they've never knew
that they could have
to be sure.
No, it's a bit
what we've ever
in the whole
debut when we're homosexuality.
I remember that
just in 1980
it was an
malady mental in France.
She was out of
the malady mental
in 1980,
we're not
to say, we're not
to say, we're
not, so,
so I'm in
77,
so it was
complicated
to assume,
to be able to
it's
well it's
because you're like
an accelerator
for the other
Yeah,
there's a
lot of people
who are there
I've made my
my son
in the street
and I've
started to
you know,
I'm saying that
it was possible
to be accepted
and amy
and that
and there
so I think
when we don't
know not
it's sometimes
it's generated
some people
that they find
that we can
have been
there can
have been at
the door to
my part of
my,
I've been
very well
and it's
It's just a way
of
the way
the homosexuality
it's not
sometimes
people are
yeah,
but the
people are
you're super
good
good,
you're very
good,
you're
not,
I'm not,
I'm
so much.
So,
stop,
to think of
this sort of
things.
It's just
stereotypes.
Well,
yeah,
yeah,
it becomes
prejudged,
there be
stereotypes.
So,
so I'm
trying,
I'll choose,
what,
you'll choose,
what,
I'll choose,
which,
uh,
uh,
uh,
uh,
uh,
we're,
we're,
Sit there.
Okay,
of what
have you
afraid?
I'm
I'm
to die
and to
me say
that I
have not
I
have done
I've been
too
to see
in my
life
the si
the sys,
the
mace
and
I'm
I
don't know
that
and I
fear
that
that
people
may
make
do
bad.
That's
Is it
has done
have done
do you
have done?
Ah,
yeah.
Oh,
yeah.
You know,
when I
say,
me,
to be
to be
to be
to not me
and take
into the
decisions
to my
place,
to think
to my
place,
to have
some,
to have
a discos
reductor
or to me
to me
to be
to be
to,
yeah.
On the
plan
professional?
On the
plan professional.
We do
the
You see what I
I'm doing what I'm
In what we represent
We say, well
In a way,
she's on her
Today she has
She has passed a certain
age
She'll go
She'll go
She'll get the
When your
You're still seven
And that's still
And that's
You're capable
to surprone
That's a pain
When we're
When we're
When they're
When they're
To make a chance
To make
Or to make
Something.
I'm always
Fear of that
I'm
I'm really
When the
people
pass at
side of me. You know, I say
all the time, no, you know, it's a spectacle
by a ganon. Do you know,
it's a lot. I don't know. I'm
about homosexuality.
Don't me judge
not on that. You know?
But, you know, you're not
no reason to have no longer. You know,
I've got to do it, when I'm saying,
the people say, well, I'm, see, imagine it not that you
did, am I, you, imagine, not that you
did, am I, you, do you think I'm doing, do you, the trotinette
electric?
It's, it doesn't
You can't
not be
to do that.
But you
can do
do
But you
But you
But you know
But it's
But it's
It's
It's really
Yeah,
but it's
to get
the people
to make the
people in
the case to
and I'm
I'm saying
pete-to
pete-to
You know,
I'm 50s
What?
Yeah
I can't
not rest
I'm not
You're too
Ager for
you know
but you
But
when I'm
when I'm
when I'm
at the
university
at the
beginning
than
more
than I'm
more
than
I think
89
when I
I was going to arrive at the university, I'm not trotten, we're trying. It's, we're
cladetting the casse, because there's the globalization of the
market, the open up on the world, you know, internet
is arrived in these years, at least level functional, or there,
we're on the new functional, we're, we're trying. I think that in the
years, we're replies on so-mame, and we're
We're trying to
get a niche
with,
you know,
there's
there's a
description
that the niche
that's
little bit
and in
the same
often, we're
also so often
but we're
in this
open up
that.
I'm in
the space
of fear
of the
other and we
have a
fear
to talk to
the other
to not
to be
there,
there's
there
something
there's
something that
I'm
I'm
not able
to accept
that.
Because
it's like
we're
trying
is so
far for
liberate the
parole and
we know
there's
there's a
world
where he
can't
if they're
in the
world,
we've
got gained
these gallon
that have
to have
the ability
to have.
So,
it's not
to reduce
now that
we're in
the extreme.
Yeah.
For that
that you
have to
not let this
time,
that's extreme.
And that
when
today,
when today,
we're talking
we're talking,
we're
we're talking
to walkies,
we're talking
of immigration,
They have not
Let's say the
People, really
I'm talking to
Today, we're talking to
Yeah, the people
They want to be
But in the same time
We're not that you
Pace at
Cote of your
But, no,
it's in the
case, in the
case, in the
case, in the
can't functioning.
But you
But you said
the entry to
the game,
it's that
the extremists
of a bar
or the other
they're going
polarize
a lot,
they're going
to bring
a lot of
the place,
but it's
the people,
the majority
silencius
who has
fear to
to take place
because she's
a attack when
they're playing
the place.
But completely
and we're
alone.
There's some,
there's a
group, there's
there's
organized and they
bring the
power.
We,
the majority
silencers,
there's not
the lobby,
there's,
and when the
people say,
I'm retire
to do it,
there's something,
there's something,
there's a
place to us.
Completely.
And we have
also the
right to exist
in our
opinions,
that there's
not a good
response?
No,
there's not
to continue
to exist,
by example.
You know,
when I'm
when I'm
Or at a moment
don't
I'm going to
I'm in a
little bit of a
little bit of
a lot of
saying,
excuse me when you
have really
tremble your
sense,
it's like you
can't be able to
be able to
make-mettries.
For me,
in doing that,
it's to say
that we're not
to me mocker
of a fort
poatrine
because the reality
is that
if I had
a day of a
year to have
a lot of
a heart
pootrine,
I'd
I'd be
telling
what it
and I'm
not trying to
talk to
you're not,
you know,
it's
It's more in this sense
that, in fact.
And when we
you say,
attention in humor,
to not get
that's a
kidch,
I'm like an
instant
to survive,
I go there
I'm not
I'm trying to
I'm trying to
mean, you're
trying to
to make something
that I'm
that I'm
that's not
to rire
of someone
who is to
laugh
with someone
it's totally
different.
Because you
you're the
person
to the person
you're not
not trying to
generalize
no plus
you person
you person
you personalize
When I see the handicapped in my cell
with who I do with which I do
a lot of people, I mean,
the other day, there's a young woman,
she has no bra, not a job,
and they say, what can't do,
I mean, I said, yes, I'm going to do,
when I want to be able,
I see, she has not a job.
So I see, no, no,
no, no, no, no,
she ran to some apparel.
And I said, it's kind of
these handicapped,
these people who are even
not capable to marches
to the scene to come to
me to see, she
she doesn't, you know,
and there's a part of the cell
that says,
oh, but me,
this part of the cell
that says,
It's saying that
this part
that's going to
see the
handicap
I'm going
I'm a joke
to get a
person.
Is it
you return to
bring a
photo with
it?
Well,
yeah,
but you know,
I said,
left,
you know,
it's not
that's not
it's been.
I've seen
a post
that you've
made on
Instagram
or the
dame
is like,
how we
don't know,
not a
triporteur
and then
finally she
left and
it's you
she's over
with her
with her
with her
because
she had
had a
difficulty
to
market, you
have done
the attention.
I think that
these people are
often pass
in the
door, we
don't know,
we're not
to get the
feet in the
place, for
they don't
because he
we don't
because he makes
uncomfortable.
Exactly.
And you,
you go directly
and then you
know, you
have made
existe.
And that
for these
people that
it's sure
that's extraordinary.
It's extraordinary.
And these
examples like
some I'm
sometimes I go
long,
but because I
think that
a young
life that
a trapegive
that was
She had a
She had a
electric
and I said
you can be
to make a
tour of salle
and she can
make a turn
of sale and
at the moment
when I'm
left over
I'm in
my sex
arrive at the
she's trying
to bavet
and I'm
saying,
well,
make me a
felation
like you
you're
already
in the
lubricy
I'm
never seen
I'm ever
I'm
ever
and her
and her
and you
know,
you know
you're
not you're
never
of the
sexuality
and you
you're in
two
seconds
and you
and you
So I've talked
after with her
and she's
her dream
it's not
to work
it's
to find a
moor
well.
I mean
I'm really
I'm super
content
to have
put, you
see,
to make
in light
that
and why
they'd
not the
question.
But it's
because
you're
hyper
sensible.
You know.
You know.
You see.
Yeah,
but I
think it's
important
that we're
important that
we're even
there's
even there
also
that you're
who will
offer
sexual
specifically
for the
person in situation of handicapped for
for live a sexuality.
Well, yeah, but it's
right that some, we don't know, but
often we don't know. But often, we
don't know. This is it.
The day you finally ask for that big
promotion. You're in front of your mirror
with your Starbucks coffee. Be
confident. Assertive. Remember
eye contact, but also remember to
blink. Smile, but not too much.
That's weird. What if you
aren't any good at your job? What if they
demote you instead? Okay.
Don't be silly. You're smart, you're driven.
you're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror.
This promotion is yours.
Go get them.
Starbucks. It's never just coffee.
Is that you're pre on level jones?
Wow.
So, we're doing the same service on the bruce.
But this time this, you're on down four.
Four.
I don't know four.
One, two, three, and four.
Thank you.
I'll have you to choose one.
At this level, I'm choosing one.
After that, I'll choose and I'd rather.
What's the paternity has brought,
or t'erported.
What is the
most grand leg
of your
father?
You know,
it's
personalize.
What is
your rapport
with the
death?
And what's
that you
have not
received to
your
family and
who's
that's
manqued?
Uh,
uh,
for the
question.
It's super
pertinent.
It's a
year that
you have
really
the time
to me
to discover
I'm
the
four
merit
to be
treated
I'm going to
It's very complicated
You see,
you know,
I've already the question
that you want to
No
That's all right
It's made
It's more than
three-kart
to choose
No
No.
I think
I'll
That's the question
That's
What's the
Paternity
You've
When you
When you
When you
When you're
Homosexual
You're
All right
You know
You're
Because we're
A man
a woman for a baby.
That's been my
more gross
blessure.
In my
acceptation of
the homosexuality,
I've been
said,
but since I'm
too little
from the
school primary,
I've used
to my
mom and at
each time I'm
always the
father and
I'm
really really,
uh,
pardon,
but,
um,
oh,
what's what's
what's what's
what's going to
um,
um,
I mean,
I mean,
I said,
okay,
so this sexuality
that I'm not
chosen,
that's the
fact that
I'm going to
be not
a father.
And at 33,
34,
I'm saying,
it will
have to
become a
because
if there's
there's
no,
there's no
the right
to transmit,
the right
to,
oh,
la,
why it's
why it's
me mott?
The
have the right to
open
a door when you
come to
go to
and to
hear a
voice that
he said
the
and then
I'm doing
so I
have made
this
part of
I've done
in France
and for
adopt in France
you have
you have
you have
a
thing you have
a agremant
that is
delivered by
the state
and so
there are
there's
some
there's
many
in a 10
meter
car
at Paris
the
the Statent
Social
is
came and
said it
a bit
pretty
for
accue
an
So I've
understood that
that I'm
that you
could be able to
because you
can't say
a 10-met-carried
it's great.
It's so
it's grand
I guess.
I gained very
my life.
And so
I don't know
at 33
years that
I could not
be a pair
that I
could not
be able to
the GPA
and that
gestation
by other
I'm
gestation by
othery
and I
decided with
my
my
my friend
of the
time
to
to be
my
Papa.
I don't know if the
decalage
that I'm very emu, but I'm
very emu.
And I
then,
well,
I'm finally,
I'm
after
a year and
a minute of
an inquiry,
I'm in fact
in the States
where
where we posed
some
that I
thought even
not a day
to be
to be
better,
Like if your
If your infant
You obey not
What punition
You're going to
Make in place
If your
Your son
You don't
You know
What is
Your reaction
If your
If your
If your
A new
Aalue
Can't
What's your
And I
Just
Beard
I'm just
But I'm
Posed
But I'm
Posed
These people
They're
In 30 Mets
Quarry
When
They're
In
They're
They're
To answer
To be
To be
To be
And
In fact, all that was a suit of injustice, the fact of not to be able to adopt, the
fact of being homosexuals, it was very complicated.
And then, grace to God, I've been a guy and a little, a little, a little, a little
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, but you know, I'm sorry, but you know, it's
you're going to talk.
I'll be talking, yeah, but I'd want to interrupt your reflections that you're at
the interior, but what's
he trance
these
emotive
presently?
It's
to be able
to tryple
all the
way
through the
way,
it's to be
the
injustice
at
through all
this
yeah?
Yeah.
It's exactly
that and
it's,
you know,
to be
that you're,
to have been
to be
that's exactly
that.
You're asking
to me
to say
that's been
that I'm
a couple of
a
family,
that I
hear every
day when I
know when I
know this
word that
I think
to never
to hear
that I'm
that we're
in the
case in France
an espouse
on the fact
that I've
made a
a gestation
for other
just for
to bring
to bring
to someone
to come.
We're
there's a
part of the
population
who consider
that we
can't
an
child
so that
obviously
we're
not of that
but I
also
many
for all
these
children who
are in
the center
and who
attend to be
adopted to be
and who
can't be
because it's
done by
people who
have a
people who are
here in
this is possible.
I know,
you're
so you're
more in
advance than
we there
and my
emotion
is because
I think
to this
parkour
of life
that could
change.
I'm
mean,
it's kind
terrible
to have
the solutions
to
make the
people
want to be
And then, that the
things
do not
there are 17,000
opulins
puppy of the nation
in France
of the
children who are
there are 21,000
1,000
1,000
demand
per year.
There are
more of 400
adoptions
parents that.
So that
it's a
really
sad.
What's
has brought
the paternity,
a form
of normality,
in fact?
I'm
a father,
I'm a
family,
I'm revevee
the morning,
I'm
men, my
kids
at the
school.
I'm
in the box of
my own
to be in front
to be in
the face
what I'm
going to do you
know,
I'm doing,
you know,
I'm doing,
uh,
I'm in the
uh,
uh,
the regard
of the other
has changed on
you've been
father?
Well,
yeah,
you know,
I'm a papa,
so,
is,
is,
is that is
more just
now?
In any
he's,
he's been
really,
really,
really,
really,
uh,
to do
,
The regard
of the
people
it is
is that
is that
two men
have ever
have ever
people
people who are
people who are
these
how do you
have to be
the problem
normally
it's the
mom
that's the
man who
I don't
I think
there are
there are
there
there are
there
there
there
there
we're
not in
a
sexuality
we're
in our
capacity
to
converses
with
our
my
I'm
obviously
fusion
with them
And you
T-amuse with them,
even on the
radio,
we don't know
but we're
with you,
they find
with you.
Yeah,
yeah,
I like,
I'm,
I'm,
is it,
is it
has completed,
at some point?
Ah,
yeah,
but the
a chance,
I think
that I'm
more
to think of
them,
yeah,
it's so,
it's
that it
has done
a force.
Ah,
yeah,
it's got
to be the
force,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I mean, I think
that the
love
of an
infant,
it's,
you know,
your mom?
Mm-hmm.
No,
no,
it's for that
I've been
this question
because
that,
not piquet
not the
people,
don't know
the people,
don't know
the love.
It's
so much
you want,
that you
want to
have a
something
to do something
that
really,
I know,
I know,
I'm
concern not, but...
It's not
it's not
because there are
there are also
there's only
there's
there's,
by example,
by the
mayor
portoes,
in Quebec,
there are
also there
other than
in Ontario,
there's more.
There's also
a bit of
a way to
to do
to do,
but there
a grand
bit of
a way of
the
recognition of
a couple
of the same
sex.
When the
Mary Portoge
I'm
asked,
why she
wanted
why she
She said, I do it for God.
I said,
pardon?
And she said,
yes,
God made the chance
to be able to
help me
who can't
be able to do
and I
think it's the
best that's the
people are the
people who are
very poor
payed.
The people
they're doing
they do
for the
money.
Fos.
Fos.
What he
could
very share in
the parkour
GPA,
is the
free
medico.
We,
in the States
in
$1,000
is you
have to
have been
to be able
there?
We're
We've been to restate three months. We've lived with her
and his two children, because she had two
three years, we've lived three months
before the accouchement with her.
We were there in the
cell of accouchement. We've
cuted the cordon.
Today, I'm still in contact
with her.
And it's...
I imagine that the ovule
that had been fagonde,
it was not his ovule.
It's important to let you know.
The ovule of an donoise...
Yeah, that you have selected.
Who has selected?
Because in the U.S.
is the donoose who decided
and the mares porters who they decide.
And no, no, no, yeah,
it's a whole
a parkour extraordinary.
It's a
work of a team
that's what you
know.
It's a
work of the
thing, it's
certainly a
vision of the
world, you
know, because
like this
donoge,
I said,
but what's
what you
do you do
your ovosite?
And,
and it's the
religion.
I have an anecdote,
I say
all the time
to the people
in the
Rue of Los Angeles,
the people
know,
congratulations.
It's really
incredible, and
we're coming
in France,
we've got
a taxi,
I'm a chauffeur of taxi,
he'd say,
well,
two men with
two babies,
but where are
the mom?
You know?
And then I
said, okay,
it's two
two things
very different.
And how you
have
cut the,
one of the
cordon,
the two cordons?
Well,
I'm,
I cried.
I cried.
I,
I've made a
for a while
seven hours
because I
had not
to have been
to the time,
my
My children, it's my
most beautiful
I can
cry for them.
You know, that you see, your mom.
Yeah, but the difference
in all this approach, you know, to have a vent
face, or to have a vent of dough, when we
want to do with these children, it's a
great difference.
Yeah.
It's a whole lot of it, is, is
is, is if I'd have had been
with these
children,
is that I
have you
know, I don't
know, I
don't know,
you know,
I'm in
it's a
way to be in
there's a
there's a
thing, you know,
to change the
country, you know,
it's incredible
like that
I'm in,
I'm not,
I'm not,
I'm going to
be able,
and if,
it's all right,
there's been
there's not,
there's been to
get to be
to be able
in this
day, it's
that, it's
a great
day, it's a,
question that
I'm,
the question that I
the most grand leg
of your
father?
We're
we're
we're
we're
in the
leg
is quality
is that
what you
have called
leg?
Yeah,
what's
what's
what you
know,
what the
people,
what the
people,
yeah,
yeah,
it's not
not,
I don't know
I think
that's not,
I think that's
my
my father,
um,
maybe
to explain
to the people,
I have
a line
very complicated
with my
pair,
he was really
very different
to me.
I think
that I
had
all what he detested, he
was all that I
didn't even
because he
was chasteur,
pecheer,
footballer,
et cetera,
I was just
all the opposite
to that.
When he had
heard that he
had been a
brain,
he said,
I'd like you
my
company,
because as we
don't appreciate
not too,
the one
and the other
we'll suffraired
not too.
So,
I accepted to
the company,
and then
I've been
to three months
of the
malady,
we're being
and we're
doing fusionnel
and we're
and we're
and I'm
and I'm
I've
We've got to see why we've got
to be a lot
to connect.
In fact,
the man is humorist
he'll pass
their time
to cry, it's
genial.
Yoohoo!
What he has
left my
father,
is his
death.
It's the
sole
thing that I
've lived in
a way
intense.
He's
he's more
in my
father and
my mother.
And my
father
had been a
man who
pusses 130
kilo
that had
finished
and he
had been in
a coma
because he
He suffered
very
and the
day he
is
deced,
the
last minute
he had
re-uver
the
he was
he said,
is
is that I
can
die?
I'm
said,
yes.
And he
has
turned in
my
bra.
It's
made a
bad
too also.
I've
seen part
very seren
very
very beautiful.
And
this
day,
it's
one of the
sole
souvenir that I
have with
him,
it's a
but I just
say,
pass
not at
the point of
you know,
and there,
I've been
to the
time I
had to the
teaching,
and I'm
parted in the
career of the acting,
etc.
So there's
a great
influence
in the
last time
in the
last I
say that I
say all the
time to
the
life
can
even, it's a
jolly
scenarist.
She's
always the
opportunity to
to say
the people
if we have
to say the
occasion.
I would
have been to
say,
no,
I'm going to
because he's
approached
in a role
of a
way.
You'd
have been
to beckxed
by that.
I think
because you
love to
your
because you're
that's
that.
And I
think that
all I
today,
it's
because
to the
opposition
that I
had
very much
had very
very
homosexual. And so he said
very fast said
that's going to
be complicated for
me and that
it's like
he said,
I'm going to
it's like I'm
I'm doing,
and I think
he has brought
a little
this role.
And my
father had an
uncle
that had been
deported during
the second
war
because he
had been
he had said
his life,
all of his
infancy,
he had
been in the
homosexuals,
we're
on the
men,
so he had
there was a
there was
there was
there was
it's a
love. Yeah, it's
to the
love. But I
know my
father
more present
today than
when he
was living.
At what you
feel?
All the time.
On the
there's a
passage,
there's a passage
today I'm
in the moment
important of my
life.
And it's a
force?
Ah,
yeah,
completely.
It's a
very force.
For that
sometimes,
it's
people,
they have to
because he
we're not
because he
we're
in line
with you.
It's true.
We'd say that the
way that's
the way
that's like
a reconciliation
or a conciliation
but you
have to what
that's happened
that it's
never passed
that it's
there, you
have you
were you're
on the same
yeah,
I think we
were in the
same carfour,
because he
he had
never
to lose
and that
he had seen
that I
had been there
with him
when I
when I
when I,
when someone
who has
when somebody
who said,
I'm afraid of
to move.
He's
to find the
moor?
Is it
the impression
he'd
like the
more
of your family
to be in?
Yes, completely.
He said
with my family
I was the
sole
who could
be able to
and the
accompany
there to be
there to
your force.
Yeah.
Yeah,
completely.
So,
so it
has changed
the rest of
your life?
It has
changed the
rest of my
life.
It's to
I mean,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure
I'm the
part
when the
For the men, you're the
next on the line of the
and often the men
will say,
it's the first day
the rest of my
life, you know,
like,
like the father,
not be castrant,
but there's kind of
a notoriety that
there's a part.
I think we can
live all his
life,
without,
without having to
tell you,
I'm not
concerned,
I'm not concerned
the people
around me,
but I'm
concerned not.
And you
can also
to say,
but in fact,
I'm the
next,
so I'm
really the
buffed two
more.
And I
I think that
if we
explain that
all the
we're going to
end up
the fact that
we're going to
be more,
I think
the people
would be more
the question
to do
or not
do you know,
because of
the whole
the finality
is the
death.
You
understand?
I'm the
people who
me say,
yeah,
I hope
that in
15
years I
would have
to,
no,
but do it
now,
but it's
it's put
that's
it's been
in 24
hour
to be
there
you know,
we're
not. It's
so, it's
a mystery
the end of
the end of
the end up
the end up
I'm trying
I'm trying
oh, but I
would like I'm
doing when I'm
a retrait
but no
no,
I chant
now?
You know,
or these
women who say
yeah,
I'll attend
that the
kids are
going to
divorce and
there's no,
there's no,
there's no,
make it
now,
show to
show to
see to
see that
every year
does the
love,
he has,
well,
the sense
the sacrifice
has
nothing to
have to be
there's a
there's a
there's a
sacrifice to
do not
to make a
other.
But if you
don't
sacrifice
anything in
your life
and then
the better
version of
you know
let's not
the place
to center
to someone
to someone
never
when you
do that
when you
do that's
you're
I'm
I'm
can't
let's the
people
I'm
not
I can't
have
this
sentiment
to
assistance.
Well, I'm always
to stop
after the other.
But there's
person who has
no, but no,
but do it.
But I'm
sure with you.
Because it's
it's perhaps
in the people
also that's
we're talking about.
We can't
have too
to us all the
whole way.
And you know,
who know,
who know,
that's not
that's in
their own
to come to
to do you
who do you know,
that's,
that you're saying,
yeah,
but I'm,
I can't
not, I'm
not, I'm
not you can't
respond to
mine,
pardon?
So,
so you know,
you know,
that's
it's
a while, is what you're
trying to
do?
I don't know
but you
don't know
you know,
you know,
no,
in fact.
But for
to say,
you know,
I'm going to
see, you know,
I'm going to
an example.
I mean,
I was out of
the Olympia,
the cell
of the
show you,
there's a
house,
and the
young
man,
and the
man,
he comes to
a mal
and I'm
talking,
and I'm
saying,
why you're
talking about
to talk about
to do
your affairs
and all,
you know,
my face
my face,
I mean, I said,
I'm a
artist, but we don't
and I'm sure.
And I'm in
my brain.
I'm just,
I'm in my brain.
He's like,
I'm in color.
But there,
she has said,
he has said,
you know,
I'm saying,
you know,
I'm going to be
dramaticized.
I said,
you make too
of energy,
there in the
eventment.
I said,
let me,
we,
we're going to
it's sure
that can't,
it's sure that
it's sure that
can't
it's sure that
can't
it's like
if you let's
you've got started
to where it's
you know,
you're in
trying to
nouring an
emotion
negative that
you're in
possession of
your body,
that's
going to make
some negative
and you're
and then
this young
she,
even if she
she has
made a
and it's not
grave,
it's not
that's his
part of
life?
Yeah.
Nive
Ruge,
Jari,
you me
on three.
Three,
yeah.
On four
yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And
In this level, you've
chosen one,
and I'm
I don't choose
any of
you can't
you can
to be,
uh,
no,
to do you
to do you
respond to
on your
on your
on your
would you
have you
would be
that you
have you
have you
have you
neglige
certain
aspects
of your
wow,
the three
questions
are genial
wow,
Sincerement, I will not
respond to
this question
because I think
my instinct
to survive
is that I'm
never getting
a little bit of
your life
that would have
a way that's
I'm going to
I'm going to
that.
To which
I'm going to
my
love?
I'm
never to
my
love
I'm not.
I think
that my
amoreau
is the
opposite
totally
of me.
It's
someone
of very
calm,
very posed
who he
doesn't
if he's
he has not
the first
he has a
super power
is that he
he has
to be
a morrow
to be in
me.
And I
think that
my
life,
I thought
that person
could
get to be
to be a
more of me.
And
because
because
I don't
live
a
a moatier
that
I want
to live
a fond
all the
time,
it's
I'm
I'm not
I'm not
the
mediocrity
I'm
don't
go,
let's
let's
let's do
a
thing
we'll
if it
can't
No. It will
function.
I can't
make a picnic
by saying
we're going to
get to
get a
no.
I'm going
to be a picnic
to do with
the nap
I want
I'm
just for the
picnic.
I want
that there's
there's
that I'm
going to get
and I'm
to get the
stuff.
You know,
I want
to do you
all the time.
All the time
that's
all the
time that's
so I'm
so I'm
when I
when I'm
when I'm
when I'm
I'm
with my
Amorough
today?
It's a
man that I
love profoundly.
It's a
chance to
have a
man like that.
It's a
lot of energy
to support
someone like me.
You know,
I'm going to
two days in
vacants.
At the
two years,
I'm going to
I'm engaged
to rest
on a
transat and
to read a
book.
At the
two years, I
want to
do I want to
do you know
I want to
how is he
could get
more quick
on the
services or
the things
that could
propose to
the client.
I'm
always to
to me to say,
how I can
amelioring
the
I can't
explain to
if it's
more
more than you know,
if I'm
if I'm
I'm not,
I'm not
I'm not
a service
when there
there's a
real beauty
she's
I'm going to
do it
and you
say,
ah,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I, you know,
I,
I, I,
I, I,
I know,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
so,
he,
he's,
he's,
is,
is there,
really,
we can't
be able,
really,
we're
cool
and
that's
this
a
profound
to my
amourous
is that I
know
I'm in
security
I'm
there
I'm
know that he
can't
he can't
he flanched
he
will never
he
is an
father
extraordinary
and at
the end of
15 years
and even
again
so it's
kind of
and how
how
the couple
evolved
to
how far
the
extraordinary
because
he was
he
had
very
fear of
father.
Is it
something he said
something he
had accepted
that he
was able to
because he said
he said,
it's not right
I'm doing, but it's
not right, I'm
doing, I'm
saying, but I'm
saying, but me,
people can't
be able to
the question.
And then I'm
saying,
I'm going to
that's up to
that I'm trying
there to.
And we're
a family,
what,
it's a super
papa,
and really,
I think,
I think,
I think,
I think,
I think,
has been chosen by the
way,
he has
the sole
default,
is that when I
want to
do you know,
he ramene
all of the
but in a
moment,
I'll accept
also, you know,
it's quite,
it's quite,
it's like,
it's like,
I'm not
on the list.
I know who
I'm going to
be there
is a
cut to foudre?
Not to
all.
We're
we're in
a show
in a festival
of Avignon
that's a
great festival
of theater in
France.
There was a
very,
he had been
going to be
and he was
be my plon-cue of the
showery.
And me,
by the
right,
I think,
no, I'm
seeing re-gues
a couple
more later,
he said,
yeah, I'm
going to
me exquisite,
I'm saying,
yeah,
yeah,
I'm really,
yeah, it's
really,
it's really,
and he said,
I mean,
to have to
have to be
in couple,
he said,
yeah, I'm
, I'm gonna
be,
I'm gonna
be the day,
he's just,
yeah,
I'm saying,
yeah,
I'm,
yeah,
I'm,
to get my
, I'm
two months
after,
we've lived
together
and it's
it's been
15
and I'm
it's not
my style
I'm
very much
the black
the robes
you know
the people
you know
unaccessible
for the gay
you know
he's
blue
so that
it's a
good
it's a ghoulo
and it
has been
a
encounter
that has
changed
that
yeah
is
is
is
is
is
to find
like
to find
like
the
man
of
your
in the life actual, you know, it's
depose the things, it
and he knows my
he knows my
he knows, he says
that I'm often,
he has a confidence,
he remit not
he's in question,
not to be
he's liberal.
He's never,
he's ever,
he's trying to,
never,
he made,
no,
he made,
he made,
to make a
great,
super.
Nive,
ERA,
and company,
you give
four cards.
You will
respond to
a single
question.
Yes,
sure.
SELCY and
SELC
Perfect
What's
Do you
Do you
to your
first time
Is that
Is that
a taboo
in your
family?
What is
you
have made
to say
on
on
sexality
at 20
and you
are
at least
with the
nudity?
We're
to
respond
one
question.
Wow.
They're
they're
they're
totally genial
again.
I
haven't
used
this
What's
you would have
to have
said to
about
on
the
sexuality
at 20
years?
Uh,
uh,
uh,
uh,
I'm
uh,
I'm in
There are these films in France
where we see
all new
in the
without
concock
because
again,
the view
has done
this core
he is
like it's
I'm like it
I'm going to
get the
contract
that I'm in
my
nudity
do me pose
no
problem
Is that
when you
new
before the
when you
turn a film
or
no important
is it's
a state
of liberty
that you
resents?
Is it
It's changed to be
to be able, or not?
No, I'm more
more, I'm used
more than how
the people
are generally, you
know, so if
I see someone
is jeaned
because I'm new,
I can't
be approached
to him, you
know,
in saying,
I'm not very
at alexe
and make the
helicopter with
my Zizi,
by example,
you know,
that's some
that's things
that can't
me make
to make
the other,
I've seen
when I was
when I was
when I'm
decided to
him return
all the form
of power.
How we
arrive at this?
I think
in responding
the question,
what is important,
what are important
for us?
My,
the regard
that are important
is the
people who
am I'm
like,
it's the
regard of
my
children,
it's the
regard of
who I
have decided to
rigolet.
There,
the people
that I don't
know,
the people who
have a
rapport
professional
of superiority
with me
don't
not in the
regard.
I'm
all this.
I'm
I'm not
the
man the
the
but I don't
want to
to pass my
my life in
the
world to get
you know,
you know,
you know,
when I'm
going to get
muskly.
Yeah,
I mean
my little
bidoo.
D'clock,
you know,
you know,
I'm going,
I'm going to
in fact.
But is
there's been
a lot of
work for
to get to
do you
to come
to get to
so?
So,
I've made
a work
of EMDR.
I'm not
if you
know if it's
with the
use?
So,
that it's
was with
With these electrodes in the
hand.
I've tried
on some
I've tried
that's extraordinary.
I'm a
passionnate of
psychanalys
I love Lacan
frote more
but really
Lacan
I'm very much
and again
again again
my life is
to me make
do good.
So I have
a power
of resilience
that is
quite
that's a
strong
because when
I decided
that something
there's
no,
it's not
that's
there's
so when I
when I
decide that
the other
has not
no power of
there's
no power
Because, you know, I
I read a
lot of
testimonyage
because after
after what we
are in trying
to do,
there's
there's a
lot of comments
and it's
always
these comments
very constructive
because
it's,
sometimes it's
some of
life that we
learn,
it's like
some
the chemines
to
understand
because
it's
by the
experience
human
and what
is the
regard
of the
other,
which
impets
the
people
to
the
regard
of the
other
who
who surcite
the fear,
who
susite
the doubt,
that's
that's
that's
that's always
interesting to
know how
how the
people
have to
ceasce
this regard
that.
Personally,
I,
I think,
the regard
of the
other,
I think
that's
that I
know,
but it
can't
in the
case,
it's
more
easy,
it's
to the
question,
it's
he would
have a power,
if
tomorrow,
if tomorrow,
I'm
I'm not clear.
I'm very pudic.
You're not?
Oh, well, I mean, I guess,
because I've seen this question
in the game,
there's many people who
there are people who are
and I'm always
to ask, and I'm sorry,
she'll say, she'll be able,
she'll be able to,
you know, you know,
I'm wondering,
that there's something
to explore in his
rapport with the nudity,
and clearly,
more, you'd
be your promenew
before people,
we'd say that's
not possible.
Some people
that I know,
that's something
that's
you project or
you are sure
of that?
It's something
that's something
that you
project,
clearly,
but I'm in
it's a lot of,
and you
will not give
the power to
give the power
has made something
extraordinary,
he has done
the life.
Absolutely.
You can't
not do you
can't do that
that.
Probably that
I'd like
I'm trying
because I'm
trying to
be with
someone who
me convince.
You know,
I'm not
I'd like
so, I'm
that's why
I'd say
if I'm
that you're
that we're
that we do
we do it
together
and that
at any
moment
we can
when we're
saying we're
in a point
of view
psychological.
It's a net
we're new
and we're new
and we're
new and we're
doing a
last.
There's a
laundry
Emma
is a boutique
of lingerie
but Emma
don't
the
proprietor
it's a
woman
that's a
woman who
want to be
five
women
and we're
five women
and different and
we've made
photos,
it's been
mediated
in Quebec
in lingerie.
And that
for
me
it was enormous
to me
to make
photographia in
suiting gorge
and finally
when I
read the
commenter I said
okay I've
all okay
that it's
it liberate
a
lot of
jane
with the
women and
even the
women very
pretty
of me
that I
know that
would never
would ever
would ever
had that
and then
all of
it said
but it's
but it's
so
it's so
it's
not. And I said, but it's
really beautiful, you know, there's
a lot of people, there's
much, very immoving, very emotive.
And, although,
at the beginning, I hesitated, and I was
very sure. But it's after
that I'm here, you know, you know, I'm trying.
But you, you know, everyone's going to be?
Oh, but all the time, but that, I see.
You know, that's a conscience that you can't
know what you can't. No, no, but it's for sure that when
the people, you know, but you know, you're, you know, you're not
in the standards.
But, think of you, I don't know, for real,
there's something that's not hypocrite,
I think it's kind of a car.
Well, yeah, it's for that
it's not quite
be problematic.
The people who said
not in the standard,
but thank you,
that's the same.
But me,
it's never
to do anything.
But no.
The contrary,
I think it's just
that it,
and especially
in the media,
we're exposed,
I think there
there are many
who are
who are saying,
well,
I'm saying,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sorry,
you're feeling,
because you
me,
I'm just,
Well, it's because it's you,
it's your, you know, it's your
you can't
abandoning, quixote,
no more.
It's, it's, it's,
it's, we're in
good, you know,
but sometimes
a commenter of
a person,
it's, it's,
it's,
but it's, you know,
it's, you know,
it's there
where I say,
attention,
you have always
to be demolied.
If you
do you don't
the importance
to this comment,
it's that you
have some
that you have,
some part,
there's a
something in
you
of you
who says
this person
has the
reason
so that
no
because it
again
again
I think
I think
when we
know
to your
every year
a good
new news
some positive
we're in
the positive
and you
and you
and you
know when
I'm
when I
like
I'm really
I'm
I'm
so
I'm so
I'm
like how
how we
know how
it's
how you
I mean
I mean
I'm
I'm
but
that's
like honor me
my car also.
But,
for that I'm
for that you're talking
for you know,
to start
mass, it's
great, it's
genial to see
do you know,
in the sexuality
what we're
going to explain
to the new
generation,
the sex
has no point
but to
feel that's
not a
performance
physical,
it's not
like you
in the
film porno,
no,
it's not
that you
find you
that you
need to be
to the
service of
the other
without you
question
of your
question of
the
sexuality. We have
all our
our core.
It's got to
be in the
red.
Yeah, and we
need to know the
things.
But so,
we don't know
us at the
end of the
year, we're
on a place
naturiste,
there's here
in Montreal?
No, it's
not true.
It's not
not really, it's
insist.
But it's
because
is that you
go on
on the
public?
I'm not
there's a
question, if you
have one,
yeah,
you're going
to the
point.
But I'm
but I'm
not a problem.
But even
when you were
young,
it's always
been like
it was horrible.
And I
I saw that
it was going to
it's always
I'm going to
I'm going to
you know,
you know,
you're not malade,
this core,
you don't know,
there's not a
handicap
that's not,
you know,
so it's been,
so you know,
you're going to
this question.
I adore,
I adore.
Ah,
no, but really.
You have you
have you written
books?
I've written
these bans
because one
my children,
I'm saying,
but why
all the
stories,
it's a
papa and
there's
never
two papa.
It's not
existed
in France.
I've created
four BD
that I
called Vicetim
and so
it's four BD
on a family
homo-parental.
And it's
the name.
Yeah,
Vicetim.
Vicketym.
When we do
it, it's like,
it's like,
it's a
word,
it's a joke of
because when I'm
saying,
Victim,
come there!
The people
are,
they're
going to
be paused.
Anything
to see that
reaction,
I adore.
But you
could write
a live
on you
on you
I think
Because it's something
that I'd
do the
day
where I'd
want to
I'm
partiened
but I'm
still attached
But it's
right that
it's right
to say it's
done to
the story
to the other
but I'm
always
that I'm
appartien
Is it
is ready to
answer?
Yes,
the question
on the
question of
your resume,
what you
would you
do you say
what should you
say to
do you say to
I'm
a good
question
I'd say
to say
to young
Anthony.
Because it's your name.
It's my
pre-none.
Yeah.
I'd say that
accept
to
come by
plenty of
and listen
what the
things
you're talking
at each time.
I think
sometimes
we say,
let's say,
don't,
forget,
not,
forget,
not,
do you know,
but I'm
saying,
yeah,
I've been
a moment
difficult,
well,
go,
well,
go,
go,
let's go,
don't,
don't,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
that the
days where you
will be confronted
to be in
those,
you know,
that you're
going to be
to be able to
you know,
that you've
that's brought,
that I think
that's really
that I'm really
that I'm
when you
know,
when you
don't know
that you've
would be able
to see
in your
right?
Ah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
oh,
yeah,
completely.
But,
the other
I think that
the role
of a parent
is really
to give
the love
to be,
you know,
we're not
to be able,
the people
They're all the time, well, yeah, I've
attended the last moment.
But no, but
go see,
tell it.
I'm sorry,
you're saying.
All the time.
All the time, all the time,
all the time,
because I'm not
heard pretty,
because there was
the pudeur,
and this pudeau,
she's at what?
She'ser to
be there?
Yeah, my mom
is always there.
And I'm
and I'm saying,
and I'm
what your relationship
with your mother?
My mother,
it's a woman,
it's an
A woman extraordinary, is a woman who is
made also in a milieu of agricultural,
who wanted to be costumier to spectacle, and his
father, he has said, no, you rest will be
on the cucked of the vash.
So, she has renounced, she has
four guysons, so she has elevated.
All of her life, she has done
to others, so I can't, you know,
not be at the height of the
sacrifice that she has, what she has
when I said, Mom, I'm going to
become an actor, she said, oh, you see,
we know, we know person, it's
going to be complicated, and when
today, she sees, they want
that I've been filled all the
Salle of France, that
I'm a
love with the
people, I know,
I know that
you know,
I'm at the
way that you
have done,
what?
Is she she
is very
Fierre?
She is very
very worried,
because she
I think I'm
too,
but she'll
stop to
work too.
No,
no, no,
yes, she
does you
have your
mother?
Yes, is
that you voyage
with her?
My mother
detes to
voyage.
My mother,
she's a
a real femme of the campagne.
She's been
me to see a
Paris,
and she's been
in choson
because she
had gone
in the bus
she's been in
the Olympic
and she said
mamma,
you'd have
been able to
make the shoes
and say,
I'm doing,
I'm doing,
my mother
my mother,
she's a
woman,
she's a
woman, she
she's a
no, no, I'm
going to
she'll be
not voyager,
she'll just
we're just
we're just
to bring
the time,
to see
and see
she'll be
every day,
she's super
content.
So,
it's a
good public
for you.
Yes.
What can
you
want to
to say, Jari?
Well, to learn, what's
to return
more often
here, and
then to continue
to be able
people like
you know, I
think that,
and in
plus this morning
it was a
morning
particularly
for me,
that you
have made
very,
thank
very.
Really?
I think
we're not
to see
by azzar.
I'm
to understand
that.
No,
really.
Well, thanks
to have been there.
It's been
to pass it
to tell
to try to
have a question.
And bravo
questions
that had been
made up
wow, wow.
You know,
sometimes we're
doing the media
in France
and you know
when you say
well,
your
and you
say,
well,
you're not
to do that
you don't have
to work
and that
it's been
wow,
good
to work
at your
great
thank
what I
what I
what I
what I
do you
want to
what you
can
me
or so, you know, I'm
like,
I'm like
presentment
in my
life,
um,
perhaps
to,
um,
it's a
little more
to work,
to have the
time to
have the time,
to think,
I'd say,
sometimes,
to put a
recule,
I'd
like to
write,
I'm,
I've been,
a book,
a,
a part of
my life,
and there
something that's something that's
something that's
presentment for
to write.
And it's,
I'm going to say
you're saying,
well, I'm sorry
and you're
to say,
I'm sorry,
if you're
allowed to
be able to
let's say,
I'm sorry,
to be able to
get to center.
Ah,
it's really
that you say that
because the
27 September
we have a
day,
the people,
the people
who are
people who are
people,
the time,
the time,
is choosing
to be to
make to
care of
my life.
I'm absolutely
that's absolutely
there.
Is what
I'm,
Oh, well, there, it's a divine, my cher jari.
And I'm talking, and I've been with Christophoree,
who is a bicketyard French,
we've made a webinar on to be a showyre.
And it's not anodin.
And it's, it's, it's a few, and on me also.
Because, you know,
sometimes, the life we offer so much of things.
And, yeah, but, well,
and to know what is that in there,
it's also difficult that when, you know,
I'm like, you know, I'm just, no,
but when you're, you know,
options,
you know
that you
choose in
in function
of you know,
but it's all
that's all right
to write
to make part of
the choice
that I do
do you know
to make sure
to make sure
that you're doing
thank you
thank you very
thank you very
and thank you
very much
we've been there
we've been
there's really
we've got to
people of Europe
who we're
we're talking
the francophonies
the francophonies
so we
then we're
we're seeing
bye bye-bye
all the
people on
our next podcast
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was presented by Karin Junkah,
the reference in matters of
for the Poe at Quebec,
and by the Mariclob,
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