Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #121 Jean-Nicolas Verreault | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

J’ai eu la chance de le recevoir à plusieurs reprises au cours des dernières années. Chaque fois, il a été d’une grande transparence. Il a été fidèle à lui-même lors de son passage à Ouvre ton jeu. Jean-Nicolas a été généreux et toujours aussi authentique. Il aborde, entre autres, la fin de l’anxiété pour lui, sa relation amoureuse, l’importance de sa famille et ce qui lui a manqué quand il était jeune. Un témoignage qui fera sans aucun doute échos chez plusieurs.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:18:23 - Cartes vertes00:54:31 - Cartes jaunes01:27:54 - Cartes rouges01:40:14 - Cartes Eros01:53:15 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT Visitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. ━━━━━━━━━━━ Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le https://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.

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Lorando at the captation. Today, I see a man that I know before

long time I've received often to these missions that I animated,

because he is very open I think it's a person that's a person

that's able to be able to make a time he's I'm the people,

I'm I'm I'm a man, he's a actor very known,

it's also someone that that's he did the animation who

he does interviews, he is very, he is very polyvalan but when

we see to play, we'd say, but what's the good actor he is. So I'm very, very very happy. It's been quite

a certain time that I've not made a grand interview with him. So I'm a lot to know more on what he

lives presentment, what is he anime, how it's going to how it's a family, in his career. So I'm

to leave all the place to my friend Jean-Nicola. My beau-fair is dead to cancer at 32 there.

There's never person who said my brother is my last, I've been and I got to come in a cut in other conversations. There's a person who said with me to tell me things.

So I was always spectator of all, and pricked with my emotions. I was a little guy sensible, and some people could have been tired of the same time. I gotter the arm. I have a play, I mean, I have a play at a view on my molet

because I'm too gratted in anxiety. The people thought that I'd have made made a murder by a wrecked by you know, I'm trying. I'd pass it to travel my paw, I'd signet.

I had a trough in general. So, I'd live all this, all alone. Open Your Your Show is presented by Karin Jonka, the reference in material of

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games of Table, UvreTon Your Original and Editions Couple are

are available everywhere to Quebec and on C.A. It's a man that we love that

we've seen many years in our screens. I think that in the years, I have it

I'm going to find out in these choices, but always the choice judicious. I think

it's fun to be in the other of a person I'm John

Nicola Vero, Salu. Hello. Well, probably, how you will you,

I think will come to be going to I'm very very well. Very, very very good, period of my

life, very calm for about two years. Not calm at the family and all what's what like, my own, my interiority, let's on. What's the fact

you're more calm? Well, the therapy, the epitreve of the life, my age, perhaps. You know, there's not a response

perfect at all that. Some I'd refer to my time to say, what exactly? I know that's an amalgam

of a packet of affairs, the changements of what I've lived, what I've ever seen, my therapy that's served at something the last year, where the valve they're open, and, you know,

one of the first, you know, that's, you know, that's not, it's going to be at a speed of gravies. My therapy, parallelement also, to me, that I change certain habits, and I think that's that, and sometimes I'm just my age, I'm probably just tanning

to my own. It's a packet of, a bunch that makes... But you parted to long, because, you know, we've said, we're talking and even often

of your in your face to the anxiety that's in your life? Oh, yeah,

oh, yeah, I mean, I'm even ramaced to get in two during three in two,

in my soul not able to be able to and make up to get to get to be to be able to and he's

he said, can't do you go to work and he said, he said, I'm going to go to be in the hospital,

we'll be see what you see what you can't even to be able to because it really symptoms physical

while after after after found and they they've been returned in the house and it's

related to it's like it clearly of the anxiety that's manifested physically, like she's doing with the

document that's a little bit of that's a lot and it's manifest by the symptoms of physical but when I do in the

things surprising, I talk of this also, you have ported this document that on

the women I've found that really interesting is it was your choice to do that,

it's your question, it's an an espete of a idea that's that's it's a

time, I've even had been in many people, I'm even with other people who are I'm doing,

I'm going to, I'm going to it's a parted a lot of, I'd say, of a preoccupation by a yes,

the statistics, yes, the men and my three feet, no, it's a day in their

life, they're with some day, they're in whatever, I'm at the gravity in their life,

in the future, I think, it's very inquiries, what's passed. And by rapport to me also, by

what I lived. So I had had been in having a like I'm in view to

make a show, a documenter, that's a rapport to them. And, obviously,

it's avorted. The hour we were in three, there had been, it's not that's not functioning,

it's not a lot of, it's made to do it, it's been to get to the glass, and then there

there's Mary Claude Beaulue who is Maryclote Beaulueue oh, let's see, Trinonon

my Why don't... I don't know. Why I'm sorry. No, no, no. No, but... No, but... It's because I'm here.

Yeah, well, it's your name. Yeah, it's... Valerie Bollueu. Valerie. Why I'm sorry? Because I'm with Markleau. That's so. You're with me, it's possible.

Valerie Bollue, he's departed at some of a moment of a day, and she said, I've had an idea to do a show on the guys, I don't know how it's going to it's not, but it's, it's it's true that you're talking

to me talk to me about that because there two years, I had these meetings on a week, with two other guys to do you, I said, it's something that's

something that's something that's, we know, it's a moment, when we're doing it, we make of the energy, then a lot of course, so it's all right,

so it's different a little, so I've got not remit more work on there, and then she's debarked with that.

So when I think it's a encounter that it's a point, it's a fact, well, I think it's that I'm tante,

Valerie, because it's it's so, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been two years, and it's,

and I started really to write these pages that's, and what the kind of show I would say

that's a way, and the form that's it's like that it's like that it's like that's very good. Yeah, and

it's a yeah, yeah, and it and it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, there's, there's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's been, it's, it's, it had to have a, it's, a, there,

a, The people had been a little revolted by the time in the timeing had been

perfect which he was not wanted to do but it when it's arrived, it's like a

food of an buffy of oxygen and it's I think it very, very much I've had

the comments there, there's got, there's people, and I'm saying, I'm going to

come to be a conference, can you come to meet a conference, can't because it's because it's

really, because it's sometimes we're some of the specialists, but there's many people, we're

the form of I don't know. But when we when we say, I want to you know we're going to we're doing

we're in a but you know, but you have a little I'm not very, you have done a

interview. Yes. It's a made on and a interview and at every time it's always

it was every time, it was that you did. And I would be like that

in, it's not ported a role, it's you face to face those face those

men, you know and that I'm it's surprised and really surprised, I'm very surprised agreeably

that you're going to get over that. I've always a kind of have a capacity to not have to have to have to have to

move in the reality in the interview, that's always this trail that, this route that precise

by what what's going to reunite to reunir to other and it's you're trying the lead

of that I hope that you're after you're because like you have this capacity that

to be very vulnerable, easily, authentic, it's, it's a , it's a , you know, you know,

when I started the show, I said, I said, I said, I said, I know, I'm going to do,

you know, there's a lot, you know, there's a person who's , it's in my life, I'm in a

grand period of moment present, but I'm not in the tristess. So, I said,

if you want me me I said, you're probably very emu but you'll be able to

you know, you know, sometimes and then the gang, we're talking about, and it's not a show

a color that and it's not that's not that, but I think the force of that's that's done

that when I was with the world, I'm not I'm in anxiety or almost in my life,

I'm not in, I've got, it's how it's how it's how it's it's

all with them for their place. If it's interesting, I remember me the name of that. Yes, it's the guy, we've got to talk. I'm just sure, it's the guy,

we're going to be able to talk. And, and I'm going to be there. I wanted to go ahead. I'd like we're going to revoir and we're going to turn to watch the world, you know. So, it's a Patrick Sinical,

the Patrick U.S. But, you know, Hugo Giroux who'd make a testimony completely bouleversant. But it's to have because it's sure

in it's saying, there are going to say I'm going to say, I want to hear of all the world, it's not just to talk to all the men, it's important to

to say. The title did all, it's a repeat the guys, it's all probably to

say, yeah, I'm in a chum, a mann't you, you know, I'm in the

cabinon, you know, you're in the cabanon, you know, I'm not okay, you don't,

you know, you're, it's a merveue, but there's, there's, there's, there's,

there's not, there's not they're not they're they're not they're afraid, they're they're,

they're, they're, they're, fear of the therapy. Is what you think that they're less afraid? I hope

I've got to some of the young who had not looked to be afraid by the fact to go to be able to

be able to make the do on the stuff, to talk to talk, me, the men of my

generation a little more young and more we're I've seen a lot of people who have

power, I've got to not posolid the language of therapy, like there's sometimes we're the people are

the people are the people are we don't know, and we have the impression that when we're going to see in therapy, I have often to say, what, do you know, how to say, how to me express, like, if there were a language precinct, so, that's not so, you just let's go and then, you say, and then you say, and you say, and you're going to do

nothing, and you're going to, and you can't, and you can't, there's a lot, and there are, you can't even in Quebec, the group of them? Yes, it's going to be able to suffer, sometimes it, it's not able to be able to do. Is it, you know, you're going to open your So, yeah, completely

So there's the level Ver, Jean Nicolette, the Niveauvel these questions of order general.

The Niveau Jone, it's you'll respond to all these questions, I'll just reassured, the level

general, it's more specific, Ruge, we're in the intimate and personal in the

question, Spaceman, it's for the Patreon, and it's an question to access much on

the being-e- -est- -companied, you'll understand that it's sexuality intimacyity.

We're doing we're doing with this question with this question that, optorizzo, which is a question douse

and that we can't if we're if it's, it's, it's, it's a feeling in doucher. I was there

is a report to have a clear in the life? But it can't be that also

where is you do you do you know, it's sure that it's sure that's a rapport with a

idea of you know, and the joker, if you you think it's that's no

And we're going to answer, and we'll pass to the other question. Okay, I guess that. So you're saying, so you can't, so you can't be bracer on the table, they're still quite. I love the games. It's like if you're trying to try. A bit of tarot. You mean, you don't five, if you please.

Well, it's really. Five, four, three, but it's your choice. In fact, it's the hazard of the questions that you don't, after that's the choice. Like, in the level of verre, I will tell you to leave. You will choose a question to which you will answer. And, I'm going to choose a question

to have a question. Okay, super. So, what's that you're in vulnerable? What importance accord you to regard

of the other? On what trait of character have you to have you to have a difference in your life for being

with me, I do it. Okay. You're on I'm choosing one. I'm like the gout,

I'm like the question, it's like, I've got to on the importance accord you to the regard of the other.

Go see. Now, Well, it's the fun, because it's a question of development. Now, not much more, practically more an importance by regard of the other. I'll use a good word,

I'm going to call it. What's not the case before. That's for that I said to the development because now I'm running there. And I look my and my fee, who's 13 years, who is a 13-old,

we're looking at a 16, and are completely there in, they're in there, and we live in a world where the regard of the other is totally important for them, with the

social, with Snapchat, with the photos, the pseudo-vi, the pseudo-bonner. And I see that it takes some proportions more, I seem, more than when I was I was young,

and then I had affected enormously. I look at my children and I think it's difficult and I think that of a great, great,

great, great, gristess that we're in so I'm trying to accompany my kids there in the plus

possible. And, and I, at a certain epoch, it's an repubentable, I was

complexed, the primary, the it's the sport, what's that's not rejected, it's the sport,

because if I had a part of me who's not for a bit I'm just not, I'm not really, I'm not quite I've got to

I've made the test for the phone, and like my blonde, he'd don't know your caron,

I think, so I'm, so I've had a coote in a world more neurotypic in the 70.

How it's this coat that particularly? Ah, my fashion to play with my friend when

I was going to start by that, that's My way to play with my friend when I was young

my friend my friend my name with who we had not a lot of my name and when we

when we said let's say let's say we're going to our little our old we're going to do you

at your okay, she you're coming to come to me and it had all of his affairs and we

we had together we're together we're we're we're in we're installing our affairs

and we're going to you're doing your story when you're you're never had never had

had an altercation so I'm in the world neurotic of the guys that they would be able to do that

when you see to watch something he's in contact and that I'm in the sport but I'm

incapable to live that my little my sense and my little bit and my world

too soon also so he he knows he'd see that and when he he'd

be that role and when he got to be probably the part of the three quarter of the

characters that I've given I'm done the when I'm when I was often after

after that passed to try to So I had like a mold to me, too self. Very creative,

but very very refirmate also in a measure where I was a little girl to be able to express not his emotions,

it would be able to a packet of a lot of a package of a family but I would never or I

would not don't know of someone of particular and it and it made of someone that was

to be vulnerable at the school. It's made to make querring a bit and to me

to make to make very sensitive, I'm very timid. So, when I did that the

sport, me that's that's a moment of I'm doing it's not quite

aqueurry and I'm quite quite part of the gang, is that I'm really sure. Because you

were also in a team, it's not a sport, it's a sport, it's a sport of

that's a sport of in the world, in the world, in the world, my dad, coached at four years,

I'm playing a basketball, so I'm playing with baseball, but after that after that,

I bifurkey over the tennis, it was, we were, we were a club when we

Sele, face to the adversary. Exactly. So, so just in second-air-3, I've got to make an impover

the world, and then I'm a bit more the school, and the activities parascarer, and that I detested the

school. So, so, me conserved and me saved and to me to me,

to me, to me, the improv, it was a line with when you recreated when you,

is that impression that? Yes, I had an impression, create the people, create the

A great want to make rick. When I I've seen I'm in the when I'm going to see a lot of

a lot of people talk about, and said, hey, it's he's he's like, it's always a sentiment of acceptation.

You know, when you don't, when you doubt your primary and the beginning of your secondair where I'm

I'm a good, I'm a minute, it's correct, it is correct, it but I'm not sure that I'm accepted by the majority

of the gang that we're so, we're seeing, to me seem to me seem and accepted, it's been

a gross delivance at the part of the secondaire three, four, five. There, after that, it's been past, you know, but it's quite a time, so, so, so, so, so when I'm going to,

my friends, they're, my face, the world has no sense. How'd you ever beque, you know, with the social? Ah, it's been

impuventable. I don't know any idea. Is that I'd have been, to be always on my telephone? Is that, you know,

I've lived in a world that existed not, so, I don't know, but if I'd say, If I had had to make intimidate and to live with the opinion

of the other, it's clear, me of a little, that's going to see to be able, because it's that's all the

thing. You know, it's not, you know, even if we're in our house, even if we're getting extremely

grave, but there was an zone of security. Yeah, completely. Now, it's just

still. It's everywhere. Partoo, where you will be where you have access to

your telephone, at your tablet, whatever, and you can go to I'm going to leave, everywhere, it's a envoyed, and it's a world of image, also, of course image,

to have the impression, to be amy, there's a very a book interesting that's called the bug human, I'm just a French, I'm not of his title, exactly, on France, not a psychologist, but it's, it,

it's important for an human, for secretive of the serotonin and the endorphine, you know, the sexuality, a packet of affairs, who are very physiologic, but there's something very important, and that is more or more

assuvied of our which is the status social. That, it's a

book that's not been written in the last year it's a bit more. And I think it's pertinent.

I think I think we in a world of a world of social. So it's a time.

It's the same principle that when you're a bit and you don't know not of the

real nouriture interior, at a moment a moment of a time you frape a mure

and you don't know that you're in a world of a false status social. We have the impression that because during two, three

years, we've had been two, three years, we've got to be the push, these leg, and then we have an impression that we've accomplished something, but you're in a

end of the country, that's not that's not that you're not to participate, because the status social is participate in a collective, you

see, it's to get important in your way, how you do you make the difference, how you're if it's important

in a community and to have part. I think we're in a bit in a world of all, so I look

to look to look at it's like, it's like, For create to create these contacts I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

no, no, invite the one at the house. It's been beautiful to talk. You know, you said that you had just

an amy, you know, there's really in the education artificial, that the people that are not

hyper social, they don't need to socialize at outrance, they've become amy with their intelligence

artificial, they're doing a non, and it's you can't, you know, you can't, you know,

you can't, you know, I'm not, you know, response, it's a problem, but you've to find a solution. It's going to go to go to

get a and it's a way, it's a way, it's a reason that's a reason, it's a comble something, but

it's a create other things. It's create of the isolation, it's a cause, it's that's not a human who is in

with who you are in trying to be able to never confronted to the imperfection to the beauty of the

imperfection human that you can't that can't to chemine and to think it's it's delicate

presentment, what is in trying to to be sexuality also? Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'd say at our time if you wanted

to find out of you'd be in the park, you know, you'd say to get tappone and you'd see, you're to get the

control, they have access to that's at whatever hour, if more than the parents who are not able to say at

a time, you're not able to tell a telephone to send, it's finished, but at the full of they'll be able to be able to be able to

be able to there's suvise can't even a business existent of young who are in trying to

do you know, it's abuvantable, the perth to control by a part to that, the lack also of the

banality also, this kind of distance that that's not that's not that's not that's, I think it's,

I think, I think, I think, it's for that when I've seen this question that it's,

at what, you know, because you, you know, you've been actor, it's kind of in regard

of the other also, like a time you've decided that in your life? Decided I'm in

in three minute at the school national for real decision. Oh, yeah, you're

there's already there. So, why you were trying to get out of I think I'm because that's

that I'm I'm doing. Yeah, but it's that you did that you did so that I've made

the course at the university Laval don't some of some of some

but it's not a great program and I did part of the improvisation the

and the troupe the theater the 13 and And there's a manager in Argentine who

worked at the University Laval who had engaged for a couple of roles with the

13 who are important and then at a moment he said I wanted to go to coach for the

school, I said okay, I know I'm not I'm not I'm just a special

of a house, the school national I've seen yeah, I'm going to never enter

there. For me for me for me, it's never to be able to coached. So he was

coached and I've made my auditions. I went to Quebec. I was accepted to conservator by the Econ National, and I chose the Ecole National. So, so it's my grand surprise, I said, okay, we're at 5,000 auditioned, and I

made part of the 12. But he has seen something. He has seen something. He's really grace to him, he made a little pushy. It's in the 3rd year, with an exercise difficult, where he made a pause, and then, when I was going to think, if you really that, I've done it? You know, a matter in a scene who I'm confronted,

it's never happened. Maybe, perhaps because I had a certain talent, and It would say it was easy. Yes, there's a group of of work at the international, but there was really ramed, and it's really

I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm doing but I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, no, it's sure I'm doing,

I'm going to be able to be a matter, it's not much but it's quite important what I'm going to be there to be

the decision. So it's just it's a year to be able to after that's after that's part. Is it what the regard

of the has been in the fact of the tractors? Well, it's real. just before to enter

to watch I'm in trying to read a great article on the last year on

he said he said a new not a last year in his last his last

interview he's made to ask to talk to him of him of the reality

of the acting and he he said he said he said to say to say to say

to say to say to say to be cached in the same time that you do the verity.

So I think that it's it's funny, but it can't be able to

be able to say the truth. So it's not really to create something that

not, we're always of the reality, and that has always been important

and there there's there there's there there. So the regard

of the other, it's never too stressed when I when I because

it's something that's something around after. That's a it's a

post for, it's been a post for you. Yeah, but it's really for me, it's a matter, it's like

an artisan. By the regard of the other, it's like there's a point, it's like, it had a

same phenomenon that when it's a real, it's a fact, okay, when I was my joke,

it was not to try to the world, it was a kind of a special of a personage,

and it's a lot, so it's it created a sentiment of acceptation, because rapidly,

I'm sure, it's role, film, a good critic, interview, and then you say, okay, finally when I

work, I see a appreciateation. So, so it's like calm that, without no

nourire an kind of bit of ego at a cot of that would have made that I

have not created that there's a boss, there's a boss, there a boss of front of

revue, of what's yeah, I've had a period foffol, but in the same

I've never I thought, rapidly, I've got used confidence in my way. So,

like that, like when I did the sport, you know, when I was there was a good, you know,

I had to make the catch hallucinant, it had a good bra, I said that

I was a bad that I'm a fact, I'm not that's made in place, and I'm not used

to get in without me to continue to tryper there to, and it's what's going, it's quite

jose, I see that, I mean, I see that like a artisan, so if I'm all day to see a lot to see a

a little bit more it's the same when I'm sorry, yeah, there's a lot of but I'm on a minute, it's saying

that I'm able to play with the technique, but I'm there to work a person and gossed a personage, and find,

what, the real, the right, so my work, so my work, so much, it's also,

it's all the whole, it's all the when I'm in my anxiety, it's never been in But to have

to come to question effectively, the regard of the other with my work, it's like, I'm not

my God, the people, the people are you am you, are you do you know, and you're

going to be working, maybe, maybe it's maybe it's a little because it has been

and at the time? And at the house, is that at the time? At the mother, my maturity

had put in the nature that's installed at the level, of the home at the and of parents of family. That, it's

a period of time. I've long time been a child, I think, I've done with that, which is correct, it's my way, and it's

a time of life, and it's a lot of with these girls, but Gauch, impatient, confronted to what I'm

being, irritated often by these situations because I have no the response, like, like plenty of

people who have a solution to do you do with a thing, so, so the fact, the pay the time to

come to come to come to the family, and by compared to this. It's been difficult. It's not been difficult

to have my feet. I mean, we have some of the moment extraordinary, but when in retrospective all that, it's been a period when you know,

you know, when you said, when you said, you've made a series, you were doing like a cabinon, a house, is that at this moment

that? Oh, it's difficult again. It's still. It's still. We're still. We're still. We sent it also

that you had had been of a recule face to all what's in your completely veiled by

all that fatigued, confronted, to have the impression to be not effective to,

you know, I was like in a world I'd have made it sometimes to have the bad

response and the patience but it's a process not because for during two years it's a

time, and the whole year all year all over going to be going to

be the impivisibility and we control not we, we're we, we

would don't for us other, but at the same time, you're all the three are different, and the three have their chimes to her, and I can't quite quite be there, to be there, for real, and be able to jose with us other, and to them rapple, and to

their say, but you can't control it. So, I think that, yeah, it has a lot of rapport to that, have been able to have the good response to all, and that, and that all right, but, you know, I'm like, you, I'm like, that's a kind of, you know, that's, you know, I'm a bit gay, I'm a bit gay in my life, so if I learn

if I'm going to a couple in the space of of two weeks I'm going to have to be a business you know, you're like, I'm like,

I'm like, to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able I'm like, why I'm not

why I'm not why it's difficult all the time why it's, so it's, it's a pre time. Now you're

a pair? Oh, yeah, I'm not to doubt, yeah, and your feet have not

changed. No, in cause difficult. It's too. It's a But, you know, in the sense that's you that's you

that's you're changing your regard. It's you by a part to you have changed. Your milieu

is still, yeah, at certain moments maybe it's still, but you'll do it differently. I'm

different and I've a much more great presence. So, it's changed the dynamic

also. I've said, I mean, I'm three years, my three years,

the relationship with my female with my they even me'll say, even if I'm

still in even if my God, it's a change, Papa, when they're going to

talk about it, I'm really a lot of time. Simon, has always always to express

their affairs and sometimes it's complicated and sometimes I've got there's just there with her but I'm

there, I'm not a year in my head in an anxiety in a to think,

to make to make some of me to make some, that's that change too.

The very presence, the more, the communication, and after that, well, they're their

way, they're going to do they're in and they're in front, they're in their own consequences of the thing.

But the last, it's pretty that is still. He's tough. It's tough because we

want the better for us for us. Yeah. And, sometimes we don't, they'll bring

decisions, but I'm like, but I'm why, you know, at the morning Mary Simone is parted at the school,

secondair two, and it's his first course of education of, you said,

you said, did you If you had if you'd have these running choo or something no, we'll be able to

Okay, but Simon, Garn, and then, obviously, there I'm going to go ahead to the soil,

I'll try the down, no. Oh, there, Go-Goon. Well, yeah,

but I'm not to do that. And then, I would like, I'd impede that. There, at the night,

I'm going to do you in a month when it will come because they were talking about when they

had to be a morning while they to make to do the sport. At the at the

And I was in the morning, I was going to be calm me, and I said, okay, I've cried my blonde, she said, well, I'll be able to the consequence. I said, I said, perfect. I had no reason to me to say that. I said, I think it's the same affair than you. I said, hey, you're saying, hey, you're saying, hey, you're subpoenaed the consequence. I'm going to be able to get into the two, and I said, you know, but we're saying, but we're saying, oh, no, I see, what you've said, I know, yeah, I see. You're saying, well, yeah, we're saying, well, and you say, well, you know, the gross, bon sense, it's right, it would be

I mean your shoes. And he's the regard at a certain time when my kids'clock I said, I said, what's it's the other

parents are going to say, it's that at we're going to be there's going to say, what's going to do, my feet, she's

a slopee and she's like, we can't we control not that. No. I'm a day,

maybe there's maybe there's maybe for me for me, it's all to do change.

My more she did do the course of piano, she did the concert to do, and there

had been at some piano and she had no stress to his concourse to his concourse to

piano. But what's she was going to do you know? That's it was on magazine,

we're remagazine, we'll porte, we're remagin it, you understand, and now I'm, I'm more

capable, you know, and at a moment of my time, my friends, my time, Leone Courville,

who is, a vignoron in Quebec, Leon, at the time, he was living obviously, he was in

he said, I don't know how I'm just, I'm even not stressed by the piano, And she's stressed because she's

me seem to me, I'm trying to try stressed, well, she's well, she's going to say what I'm to say what I'm to do you know,

what I'm saying, she's got to his piano. She's, what's what she has done to be practicing? But what's

what the other thinks of what she has she doesn't exactly like she's exactly like her. So,

that's that his anguish, her anxiety comes to there, I'm sorry, I'm never never

thought, but never or the piano. She could have stressed by a part of his capote it's a

image she's a really, this example that's incredible. But it's that I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I was in my cuisine, with him and you have not idea, you've got to desamorce

something an incomprehension in me, which is so grand, I want to be but that this bout

that I'm not, I'm not, I'm coming, my God, I'm, and when it

had to when it's when it's there, there's, it's not these costumes, you know, now, it's like

these ensembles that can't mix, my God, my name, I don't know, and that's all also, well, they're abbeyed

but, but it but I'm, I've got, I've got to, and we're up because of that, because then I'm

saying, okay, I'm going to get a little more. And how do you, with that, you're, to stay,

just to rest, I'm, I'm going to understand that he's being stressed by that that. But,

but I'm, but I'm but I'm maybe, I'm trying to understand, that it was the power that had given to

to say, imagine, you judge someone who is not able to it's a new it's a thing,

it's a when I'm saying when I'm saying that I'm not I'm not sure I'll pass it just the day of the question that

but I'd notr not my lectures and I'd not my my clients but by about the

physical by the universe the universe is neutral there exists not that you make not

an intention it's your film it's my film it's your film it's his film

So, so you decide that you accord the importance to someone who is a year, who would think to be in your world to be

accorded this importance that if it's not. It's so. But it's going to understand it. But it's

full, it's completely that. What's the fact I'm in that time, I'm not at the time because it's my

decision and it's my film to me. It's not to be able to to do you know, if there's some of them who are some of the regret, why I'm not made

because he'd give a power on the other on what the other would have been to, it's complex this question that, but now,

but that for you, it's something that's something that is more behind you. Yeah, and like Jim Carrey, sometimes I'm

pung the vague, and I'm super well other times I'm and I'm don't know every day, it's not perfect all the

day, but I'm just surfed, so you know, well, yeah, and it's all the rapport to my rapport to my rapport to the

nature. It's a little capote the physical that's a bit of a lot. I don't know. I don't know. Someone who's because he doesn't know not, but it's weird, it's complex, but the gross base of the linearity

doesn't exist not, the past, present, future, all the same time, all you're not that you make not an attention. So, it's your film. In this moment, I'm an actor

of your film in the moment present. There's nothing other that exists. So, to think that someone thinks something, it doesn't exist

not, at the more that you manifest, you know, and you're in an invention like the

idea, it's a question that's the question that's a question, my blonde, my blonde, has made a

great difference so in the moments difficult and the moments that's it's been

25 years, it will have been 25 on the next time in fact, and you have been

there were there were there had there had some bough a bit of neutral, there had been

there were a packet of things I could say, It's sure. But at the first the first person

that I've met with who I'm talking because the two we've passed at a lot of things, the two,

we've got set challenged, we're, we're reconforted, we're tamed, we're still, we're still, we're buscule

and we're chicaned, we, we've got to because at a moment of a day, we'd know if we're going to

the life of all the world, then, and then you're going to of all that. So it's all that

that's all that he has made of my life and my film proven to my expression to make

something of something of something and that's and that's really a question and that it's really

and my my cheme my cheme my cheme is my way to stop and it's correct there's correct

there's there's not there's there's there's my time my my incarnation

present or my my simulation in this moment here, in the world in three-dimension, at the

way, at least, it's the point, it's been, it's sure that's the person who has made a difference in my life.

Is it you think that it's a question, you know, like a kind of patience for that you have to be

who you're to be in, you know, to t' in what you do you're in the back, the vague

that you didn't know to find. I think it had been there's been there very far,

and an an assurance that code there of all the of all the things, and of all

that it's difficult, it's a capacity to be able to see, there's what to be able to that pen

that we're patient or that we can't take tranquillement of the management

there then. And so, and as so, Johnny, at all time, it's

far, and all it's a challenging, and she also she's transformed. Which is

that's much more calm, also today, so it's much more so that.

But, but, yeah, I think it's, it's all to the conviction.

In the same time, we're able separate, and it's correct. But what there's not

the judgment there's not that you're quite far, there's quite super

far, that is a bit inexplicable. You know, which is a bit, and that's not of the acharnment, and I think

we've continued to be able to be able to be there. There's not, even me, in my side, I'd

say, who's, who's re-enferme a bit of his side when it had not been, we've been able to continue

to say to say, not always not the same because today, it's a much more rapid, and there's a

more more great franchise, and there, rapidly. But we've always been able to move there's not to be freege

completely and at the end of two years, we're at a distance incredible one of the other. We've never been at a distance

incredible one of the other. That's what he had around who braced, because you know,

at the part you've talked to talk to your own that you had when you were more when you

you'd play separately yeah. Is that for you, the life at two has been a issue?

At the departure. Oh, yeah. Ah, at plenty of level, but the fact to partage the life of someone,

and to feel that, again again that if it's it would have done that's all right and it would be that I think

a response and to live the anxiety and to be on to be able to and do it for two weeks,

it's why, what I'm why it's why it's not the same frustrations than with my So, so. So, yeah, it's

it's been challenging, but in the same time, there were always something that we, who knew, who knew, and we'd know, and even more today, and we'll see, and we'll be, you know, there's a few, with the epitreve of the life, you'll be able to,

and it's always been able to continue to try to see, and see, to it's re-appled, a few times, and, and, and, it's our chime, I mean, you know, I'd say, you're sitting down to, today, and we'd be, and we'd have been separate, we'd have been 24

super-belled years signifiant. There's, there's not there's a bad, there's a

bad way of my own no, it's no, it's no, it's always inspiring to hear of this

time, it's saying, because, sometimes we're when it's what's what's going to rest,

when the calm will come, what's that this timepate that has let's,

is that, is we're going to that, or is that is that is going to be able

never neutral? You've not be neutral. face a a

effort and some it's, and there a lot and there's there's also the

lack of comprehension of the attitude of the other face to the it's like

it's like we're, we're, and it's not that that's not that sometimes

I think in a couple it can't be long to to be to accept

the the other even that's not it's completely. But then there we've

had much difficulty with the fact that I were able

to go to an space of an place of where he would be there's a lot of

and that I'm evicted to sombray she's the deny conscient or the and that

she had the difficulty to do it and she had the difficulty to understand I have

the difficulty to understand that that all all it was

that all at the second pre it's always always always

always always always that a battle you and

me refug in something had the difficult to understand that I'm able to be able to be refuged in the in the ryein

for a certain time for me resourced and re-revene. So, yeah, it's tough to understand how the other reacties. And it's there, some, you say, hey, it's eight years of the quotient that it's insupportable, perhaps we don't have separated, you know,

it's never been, yeah, there had been, there's been there, there was, you, continue to to live, the same, all the time? We're in trying to be chicaned, we're not the same point of view, there would, you know, but it's never too

dured, so so, don't. So, it's perhaps it's tough to understand how the other react to get,

and we're going to be like, we know, it's not, you know, I'm going to, you know, I'm not,

you know, you know, you know, that's an , you know, it's an repubentable, but I'm

obliged to me to say, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're going to

be in a couple, 25, 35, 30, 10, 10,000, 20, 50 years, you didn't

do you don't know not in your story your story familial and you know we see

that our history family it's kind of our base after that we can

we can go to we can try to work but there there are some

there are there some there sometimes of the we're not having young and they

they're they're they're more more than than they're but I

I think that's that's to understand to understand of where the other comes to try to

understand also that's a reaction that's not that's not calibrated like the

other. In the immaturity of our first years, I'm not that I

didn't know that I'm not that any one we're in the other we're in this

discussion that, you know, I see where I'm and I'm in my therapy, I'm

to come to come and I'm and I'm coming, and I'm said, sometimes the

women, it's two men, it's our match your match was perfect. It was perfect at the

level of our two children when you mature and you come to get to get to get to get to get to certain things

and you say okay, that's not that's appellate to my father that you have not

if you'd have not if the other if the other does not the other we're not the two

also in practically in the same time so it's sure that we're at year

in the but you're all right we're not didn't not the same and I

didn't be very much of the It would have been to be there, my infancy, the parents, the parents, the parents, the parents, the parents,

how you know, how you've got to that, you've heard that, you've heard that. There's people, that, that they realize

very tardively in their life, okay, but it's a way more that I think, because, sometimes we have

all the impression that's what we're in trying to live, that we're that you're in fact, that you're

a fond of that. You're in a moment that there's a conditionment of human that comes to a nisery that's arrived

when you were young, and it's condition all the rest of your rest of your life. So if you

don't occupy this dossier and then you know, you're going to you're doing it and then you

rule the door and you say, okay, I'm the same as cause under other that's a whole of

that's a life that's that's a life that's yeah, it's it's a life that that live

that they live there's not there's I'm very accompanatrice and observatrice to all there's

there's there there's there there's there's there there's there there's there well you don't you

I thought that you have lived like that and then the mother said, okay but it's

because that it's like that it's like it's like the thing, it's like the yeah, it's yeah, it's

that the mare, she said, well, she was in my reflex, I didn't know that it could be

and then it's true, you say my God, we think, we're doing, but our

protections we're making young, these protections that, if we're not where they're

going, she You know, it's like the second generation who transmitting, we don't know why we'll transmit it, although the first sometimes will understand. The mother will understand what she comes to live, but it's even not that she'll transmit. Imagine the the girl that she'll receive. And it's

really over the eyes on, okay, sometimes a relation parental or in the couple, it can't be difficult, but where we're coming, it's kind of the clue of that. And then, and then, sometimes it's transmitting at through the cellul, it's transmitted at the time you, just commentate in your life,

you know, the traumatism transgenerationalal, that's called. And that's, we're saying, I mean, if I'm not liberated of these powers, I'd say, I'd probably more like my father

in plenty of fear, and I'd be able to. And why'd not there? Because it was too low, or you were not conscious that you had affected?

I think I had power to go there. I think that I didn't know to know. I think I had a great puddard by that.

So, my premier in therapy, I was going to to do to do it, I said, a quarter of You know who I had to go

But you know I'm not, so that you had to put it and it's not like you're not like you know,

it's not so much to make the door to make the door to I'm going to I'm retire I'm retire

I'm trying that I'm maybe that I had perhaps I'm maybe to be able to you know,

and you were probably I'm not ready I'm not I'm not I'm not it's probably to visit

or some or some it's not a a packet of affairs that's okay, there's not

the choice let's go. And it's it's a very, oh, yeah, completely.

That's the first of that's over and I'm there's a taboo. I'm not to have a

person, there's a minute, you know, what's the time? And I'm it's been

to be able, we're going to have you, there's a question, no, it's correct, that's it's a

story, you're talking, I'm talking about this, of this, I had been not a taboo about

to say. At the level Jaune? Nive yellow Mose. You me and give four if you'll

please. Four cards. You're going on choice one and I'm on choice one. Perfect.

We were not too long I'm not I'm not there's not there's not there's not the time.

The time is physical. It's physical we do it Yeah, all the time. We're in your film.

In the my film, in the time, in the same time, so it's in the same in the same so it's

so you know, how you're how they're how they're how much, how type of Amourous, is you?

What is you not received of your parents and who's what's the role to pair you know, what's what you have not what you're not

I'm going to answer? I'm not going to to respond to that. Perfect. It's not a lot of people who do you know, but it's

part of their history, it's well, you know, we have the time to place. Yeah, also in the history. Yeah,

all right. You know, there are, there's parents, em, it's, we're not not always the good In a way, and I'm not, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not, you know, it's a part. But what I'm making, is to be capable of having these conversations of

verity, that I've not used when I was young, who had made me a young adult, and even more than a young adult, who had a difficulty to exprimed these emotions, and who'd become spectator of the situations. Because, when I was young, I was very sensible, and I'd understand a lot of things that me entoured. I was the last of the family.

And a family of how many? Of three, I have two sisters. Okay. And then my son,

you know, it's a number, it's a little timid in the rear who had and he

had no to do it and they and they always, and they're like, and don't

be quite, and I'm can't be cantoned in a role. Yeah, but he's had been

plenty of things in, in our in family, and there never person or almost

who has had pre the time to sit and to me consider as mature to me

to be and it's the it's like it's like it's like, it's like not intelligent to the

but you're not not quite not as well but it's like it's like it's like it's not we'll talk

because you can't you're not capable to understand you're not not capable to live

we can't you're not to be able to be what it's it's that it's a a man

an an man who has a fear of certain situations because he thinks he

is not capable to be so that's it's not in my emotions what I'm that's been to be in

having to have been to say what it's going to it's influenced my life what I'm what I'm

talking about practically like it's the adult, and when he arrives something, we're had been the cancer of the cancer of the

sin, she has had a certain remission, it's of the cancer of the O, and deced at 61-year-old. There's never person who's

sitting at least to say, well, Nicola, I'm the cancer. It's a Nicola, because he's called

Nicola, because he's a man, had the cancer, or my father said, your mother, my wife

diagnostic, my beau-her is dead, my brother, he's a person who my brother is a bad,

I've been and I've heard, and I have done on accutate other conversations. There's person, but

there person who had said with me with me things. So, I was always spectator of all, and pricked with my emotions.

I'm a little guy sensible, and these things that were being perturbed, I've got to be able to be my arm, I have, I mean, I'm a play to live on my mollet because I'm too gratted

in anxiety. The people thought that I'd have made up with a mord by a rekin, or you know, I'd say, I had a trough in the room.

So, I'd live all that all this, all the same, that person, that my family was very open on the black, the joke,

my mom, had almost a stand-up comic, as costumed, you know, You've been a lot of fun, in life,

a lot of tendress, of love, my father had capable to be able to be able to be able to

be in the real discussions there's not there's not and it's that I'm a lot of it's my

way, I'm sorry to be all this is correct. But you have been to it

to be because even for those who we we're maybe is we

do you decide for the other if he's capable to it's able to or not,

because it's a bit like if we're decided for you know, but you didn't know but not

the good way, we're not it's like if you're not not considered. They're they're by protection,

but what it does that it's not not capable to do that, I'm not capable of my dad,

I'm not capable of this situation and it has made to become very very quick spectator

of a packet of me to me to be able to make sure And we've done a role

of a spectator also. Completely. Completely. It's the way we're going to be the way.

It's the way to try to not do make sure with my feet. I'm able to get,

he arrives that, so, so, so, oh, if I chicaned to have a year to

do that this, I don't, I do, I do it, all the time, but what I say,

is that I'm I consider, and in their transmitting that, I consider, that they're capable

to be they're able to be able to to understand, and it's it's been mystified a affair. I mean, it's a creed

the immaturity there. Long the end of my life. At the time, I'd go to TV, and in the film,

and there's reality, and so, there was a little genet in there that was not getting

there. By the apart of a time, I was, I realized, like an

one of eight years? When the when the life, is that you have also, there was also,

there was also, there was many people, so I'm I've been with two-sher, Tandress, I said, respect,

the respect always always had there, there's a much of maturity, a lot of power also,

you know, at the level of the sexuality, the power, the performance, it's at the height,

so it created a lot of vulnerability and insecurity of my part, a part when the period of my

party and it's been to get to me of the there's more of, I had more

more of insecurity, we're like the life was perfect, you're you're correct.

You'd like, you like like, So, we're doing it's auto-medicamante. We could say that like that. Completely. So it's a kind of part

to kind of be there with the other and to make attention because I'm not the relations of power in the way. It's not really, I mean,

I'd say, my reparator to the vessel and me demand to the appellate directly because I'm interested to your own and you know,

there's not, you know, you've got to be the authority no, no, not to do you. So, so the fans,

in my life, I'm in my gross period where I'm in a bar a bit fit and that I jogged with a girl and there are another

that's a number of the telephone in the poche and all my gross years of my and she would be able to get to get in front

to get to get on the morning, I'm able to be in a situation of the power. The game of power, at less that we

want, we're going to be equal to you know, we're on intelligently, we're doing a role, we have the fun, no matter.

But grand to listen and incapable to live in a situation of power. So I never been able to it's a

way it's a man quite a man quite tendre and so the like the number because it's it's a good

job, but but parallel to that, very immature, you know, and very insecure by a status correct,

and, you know, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, and even on the level of the I don't know that I'm a bad actor, but sometimes I look at retrospective, and today I'm

better because there's something a lot more more grounded, a lot more more even more really at cause of the chement

and I've got like it's quite to, you know, like a wine that's been maybe mury, but it's, so it's affected

so much to suffer in my life, that's clear. And it's what today the relationship with your

seurs? We're not it's fredient. We're a family. I mean, when my mother is deced,

it's like afted. My father had like airy for what, 12 years, 15 years. He decided

79, a man had decided 61, but he was a bit more and he's a

little bit to continue, I was in Montreal, he's at Quebec, so I continued,

of time I'm with my part, he'd talk, and the point central

to all the point central to all the family was my my mom that was

my mom that was my mom that was my mom was a a savage, a lot of

a very, very, very little little young, he's very, very, he's not quite to be able to

me, she's been in, she's ruined to make, to make a competition of tennis, but I'm,

but I'm my mother that's my mack all, so, so when she had like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's like, and time I've created my sister, who's at Quebec, and my

sister in my son, to who I'm in which I know, and I know what's to get to a moment

to me more to be more and she, when she lived something, she'll continue, I think, she's in front, I'm a bit. So, for real, you're on and my blonde, me on often, call don't your

sister, your great sister, you know, call it, to have their marriage, after that, they're part the end of course, and they're not going to see, and they're not to talk, it's not

to sense. But that's still my side, I'm in my affairs, and I'm, and I'm, okay, I'm not

queer, it's a bit particular, it's very particular. But is it is that fatigue in the interior of No, it's not It's not

because it's me fatigued where I'm in the same in my life, I'm let's not train these things it, but

it's not I'd like, I'd say, I'd have, I don't know any idea, you know, I was,

I was like, I was like, I was like, it's a certain period, so it's a particular, and then

some, it's also, it's hard to explain, my, my chumimimimann personal, to,

if you had to talk to my film, I thought to talk to we're like we're like in two worlds

parallel in this moment, she, you know, she's not, she's not, I'm in my sister,

no, I'm in no, I'm new new no more, so. I'm, I'm sorry, to talk about,

yeah, because, yeah, it's, it's so, you have, you know, you're kind of

you have a past in common, yeah, but you know, you do, you just that I can't

understand, but it's just it's just it's fatigue not, no, and I'm Even this great capacity, I'm going to be at

to be there, and I thought, and it was seven years when we're talking, it's so, it's so, it's so. You had to be the age when your mother is decided? I was out of the collegeional. I had started a little bit, so I had 29.

You had been relatively young, yeah, at 29, yeah. Oh, yeah. She had a lot of, if it's been a first relation with the war, your promontact? My beau-frere had decided before. He had 31

a cancer of the foe it's impuantable he left two young children. My mother yeah,

it's the first of contact with that and I'm quite, I'm quite airy a

little after my period on the party had been after that I'm always,

I've not seen I've not I've been reconforted in saying she suffrae she's perfect

because she had toffey when she ran to Mrs. Sarazin Yeah, my son paliative.

Yeah, it's a palliative she had put to have had been toffy a month

and she's she had been there's there's she so she

she she had been long so she she never when she she'd

never when she she'd she when she she she'd see she

she'd live with with with things that she'd never

that she'd continue to continue to and she'd don't

make sure the cancer of the so so we said it augment

am he had come a bon and finally to the Yeah and after after that

I'm like in having like enfooed that I'm like it's like it's like it's like

my maturity to be with a woman that's very, very mature and I have done

and I'm made maternity with Jeannie when when you when you when I

see our two young she was she she was she she was she she had she had

she had she had she had all right assy, and oh, yeah, let's go, and me, it's my affair, the two, it was

doing it's a match perfect. You know, you're used to do you as to do you to do with you? I mean,

I didn't, I mean, completely. My mom had the cancer and continued to find out of my father,

but continue to it's like completely surrealist. And so, so it's I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, it's like, I'm coming me, it's come up, what's what's what's what's what's what

what's been in therapy, I've done there's got your dewe? Yeah. A deil not exprimed

like that, but your own own your head on have been used. When my my mother had decided,

I'm not past the time to play to do you, I'm going to I'm at I'm in New at the bar,

I've worked, I've done and I know, I've said, I don't know I'm not

very, so it's been to get me to get to much, much after, so I'm in a morning,

my son, my son, my name, my time, and I'm there's that it's they're going to

do it it's going to be today. I've got a car in this time. I don't know. I'm not exactly the hour. Let's go ahead. I'm going to start at 3 hour. At 4 hour, I was in the corner of the road. It's like if I had lost a row. Kank, Kank, Kank, Kank, Kank, Kank, Kank, Kank, it's, it? I mean, it's on, it. I'd say, I'd rather

not, what's what I'm going to. I'd say, charge. I'd say, okay, I've got to resty, I'd report. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like 4 hours. My mother had deced at 4 hours. I asked the hour when I was they're saying they're dead at the hour

and then I said okay it's really my chimes when I'm completely capote and I'm going to

when I'm saying I said do you can't be too alone I'm a certain time time I'm just

I'm gonna you know it's gonna it's a someone who yeah yeah yeah

so right right so quickly the envelope is there but I'm sitting in the corner there was a sitting in the

I'd talk with her during a day hour, and I'd regarded a lot of the sky, I'd rather even even even more, you know, I'd rather than with her, like, I'd have a sentiment that had somewhere, but, you know, it's like that, it's like, it's happened, and after that, rapidly I'd, I'd, like, I'd, like, to turn my part of all, and

I'd just, I'd just, too, you know, I'd, you know, to suffraud, you'd, I'd, didn't, you'd, I'd, don't know, in all, no, you'd, don't know, you'd, I'd, you'd I thought it's not to your sufferance, at your perth. The image

which I'm very much when I'm sometimes, it's because there's things we're not going to be

there's a car of my family, and there's a sign, we've turned that all the day,

I'm doing that I'm in the sack, with the car of my family in my bra,

it's a sign, it's never I've ever that, I've never used that, the image

that I'm sometimes I'm that I'm my mare that I'm I'm accuey, me, at the house of health care of

when you had arrived. I remember to be on the portic and the ambulance is arrived.

He had descended and I saw my my wife that's, you know, the two ambulances are there to

see you this image that. I thought to be pleading today. Correct. This image

that, I'm, I'm in , you know, because it's what you're what's that

is, the importance that had for your mother? Yeah. She had

a she had in this step definitive of her life. Yeah. It was

me that he'd like to the portic in his last that's far,

it's she, it's she, she's, she she's, she's, she, when she,

when you when you're sure, when you were, it had, it had, it had like

an importance yeah, yeah, and, and, and I, and I,

and I, and I, I, , you, it, We know that it was his last moment, you know,

that's the last the rest of his life, and I saw all the rest of the vulnerability also. That,

it was too, you know what, I'm talking about, I'm sorry, to imagine in any part of, you know, because you

have not been a way, it was a woman She was she had face to

her destiny, uh, there's something like in, it's like a form of the

determination that's it's at some they can't they can't be not be

more vulnerable than there. Completely. You're you're going to get out of the house, but not

it's so it's far like, it's a paradoxal, it's a grand vulnerability

by a about the grand moment of the thing, it's a very strong to say,

she said, she had never said, I remember, my dad to turn at the house,

he said, I don't, he said, I don't know, I'm, I'm not, because my father,

I'm able, to go, to pass a new, to hear, he'd say, so, She wanted to part in pet, your mother.

Yeah, I think there had some of saying that she had not, she. It had been fought until the end. Yeah. Yeah, because I think we can be far and vulnerable. You know,

it's to say that she has regained his affairs in accepting just that she'll get back, you know. Mm-hmm. All right. Is that you have an impression

that she has? Do you have some things that she has done at certain moments? These signs, no, but I do you

talk. My wife, she, she, she had achieved his first course of course of conduct.

When we're going to work with her for her practice, in fact, she had really used

her own there's a lot of course, you know, there's a lot of functioning, you know, there's some of the

parents. I mean, when you're parted with the professor, I've passed the, let's have a durer of

a minute when you're going to see, I'm going to get this two hour to just by the

mom, Therise, if you're please, you know, Miya. Alch, so I'm

so I'm sure that she please, she'll pass, that's like she when she's out of the way,

and she made to say, and I was going to say, and I said, I said, I said, I said,

I'm sorry, my my girl, my wife, my wife, my feet, my feet,

my feet, it's a little bit of , you know, a night, she said, you know, when I was

past my my course of to talk to to talk to to talk to my, I mean, I'm,

I'm, I'm, with me. Oh. Oh, I like that. I like, I'm going to go to see the story. Look, I'll go ahead and see the question. What's what you're going to say, what's

what you're taking? It's a part, well, listen, rapidly, like, it's a lot, a lot of fun, a lot of fearty, a lot of

good moment, but it has also a lot of, I'm not the work, but a lot of evolution, and of signifiant, it's signifiant in my life.

Like I said, my life would be plait and without any sense if there were not the children. Sometimes it's brulant, sometimes it's fatigant. But, I'm oldie, that I'm afraid of the time of my

feet, you know. I'm very much of what I'm like, and it's a cause of those others, it's the cause of what I've been confronted, or they've been forced to go, and I've been forced to go, and I think that

beau, you know, I wanted in my life he would have a little little bit of life in a little bit in a week,

but that's the little guy of eight-year that was going to have the pay, who would not be confronted

to the things, they've been to be forced these these people, to get, you know,

when I know, when I'm going to go to have to open the valve for a,

well, then it's my family, and I'm very much to that so,

so it has been brought to my role to pair. Is the endue that your feet

and it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a yes well,

oh, yeah, it's it, it's, it, it's, it's, it's,

it's a capacity and the force to establish of the real communication. It's certainly

that's what I had a lot to do have been to do I've been to get

to be able to get, to be able to be able to have these very conversations and a real presence.

But that, it's a demand to calm, and it's a question of life. It's all my kids who not obliged,

but I'm, I'm not obliged to say, it's going to what the parade pass in a bagged in back in,

you know, like that they're not, but they're made a lot to be able to have a real presence

with us with us with them, to be able to be able to jazer and to communicate for real,

you know, and, it's at And through what he lives, because at a moment, when they live, when Timone view something, when he has lived something, you're able to say, Papa, I've got to talk, you, and to pass two hours, sit on the way to my wife, and then she'll just, then I'm talking to a packet of affairs, and I've got to try the time in response, but at least I'm there.

At the time, I'm able to do, you know, today. You have an impression to be at the good place, at the good moment. Yes, yes. And your notion, I demand to have the good response, is a little a notion of performance, also? Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry, my therapist, a therapist familiar, I told him to say, Mr. Hero, they're just to want to be the superper of,

to be performing, and to have an espouse of a solution to all, and a lot of performance. It's probably a lot, and a lot. It's often, a lot, so, the people have been able to talk to get to someone who they're listening to someone who's for real, and then after that, there's just a good bit of fact, you know?

But, often, we'll say that, of these women. Yeah. I'll not generalize, but, well, we'll say, soon, and if you're just to me, it's okay, but when

we expose an issue, a problem, sometimes it's not the solution that we're to talk

to talk, to put to put up to someone and that the way that will be in the

research of the solution. So, it's not, I'm trying to be to listen, but I,

and when we don't don't know the solution, there's like a sentiment of the check that

is present because it would be like the it's it's like you've It's like

you've I've lived a 100% a classic classic image of the man who's

who's saying important in regland in doing and trying to do you with all the

way with all the way that's it's not it's not it's just that's exigent I think

for the for the person for the person that's for the person that's it's

it's it's it's it's it's it's that you're not

It's just to be, even if I see that sometimes my blonde have been counted the affairs, and sometimes I'm afraid with an answer, I mean, I'm

just, I'm just that's just that. Okay, yeah, it's right, you're right, I don't have a solution. I want to

I don't know that you're not that it's correct, it's correct that you're not going to be in two days, there's not

there's a problem, but we'll go see, let's say, I'm not there have said again again, it's because it

has been a difference in the communication. Yeah, You know, if the other is not at the research a solution, but more at the

after that, maybe we're in a solution, but often it's more more than it's more to talk about, and then in

sometimes when we're trying to find out of just in the saying, but you're saying that the other accept that that's not

that's, it's, let's me let's me let's me let's more let's go back I'm not

definitely, I'm definitely, I'll probably find out of what I'm going to say, no, no, we're

we're doing two hours, and there's I mean, I'm talking to say, I'm here, I'm sure. Yeah, but it's a little bit, you know, and you know, you know, you'll let's the time to accept these shows, yeah, you know, the solution sometimes, we're patched something, but the problem

is not regained, you know, we've been to make a plaster, but... Yeah, it's sure. It's a lot of, I don't know how much, I'm going to be deconted by the other at his rhythm, and you, you have to be able to be able to be able to be able to be there on-coat, but you know, it's an apprentice, that.

Yes, it's an apprenticeage, and, ah, we're not always disposed, no, no, no, but then we're fatigued. Then, no, but then we'll have, okay, I'd have to be Cushed, I'd have to have been, I'd have been, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

And, and to be all right, sometimes, it's not in the energy, also, to be there's sure that when you're not in anxiety, it's more easy, but when sometimes you're

like, like, the gross part of my life, anxiety financial, so, so, so, so, you're just, , so, you're just, , you know,

to say, you know, something, you know, something, you're, there's a lot, there's there, presently you've known that

that's tough. That's very tough. That's difficult because there's the fear for your family it's the

for you, for what, the future that's what? That's not there, you're not there's not no,

no, no, the two, we're not, we're not a millionaire, we're not three children,

we're the money, we're plenty of specialists and you know, because you're there's

there's there's been and there's And then the parents, it's just a cost share. Yes, it's quite a specialist. It's a specialist,

psychotherapy, psychotropy familial. One of my of my feet in contraband, my opinion of the artistis reimburse not,

the psychologists of my parents, you know, the miennes of my own not even, not sometimes I go to regard to

and see, and I've got to a lot of affairs, I can't, you can't you bet for the families,

pay the dentists to our parents, it would be fun that, that, at a few minutes of pause

there, we're not we're not there, But, yeah, there's a lot of a lot of money,

and so it's it's all right with my father who's when I'm my great anxiety when I said

that was not in my job but it was it was very related to finance also. I had afraid to have

the same with my father, I had a part to do it to do you, what it

exists more, what I don't say that in my life, you know, I'm a super

great a year past I'm in a correct my more than this year.

There, some, there, there, there, be correct, but I've been the same reflexes and the anxiety that I've Because it's been to, it's a shock

for you when your father had to be able to? Oh, yeah, we're parted to our house in New York, there's a little maison, but my son had to be married, it was in our part of our party, my father had all right, on a street that's a little bit insuricurizing with some people

bizarre, and see, and see, and see, my parents, again a one time, he'd be on but who lived these gross difficulties, you know, to travel, to pay to say, you,

So, there's There's nothing of that that's that you're talking about, but all of that you say,

you say, it's going to you know, when you see when you see not, okay, we're doing

we're sure demanager, you're saying, it's a question of, and 14 years, it's a age crucial,

yeah, which so that's, that's, that's, so that I had no insecurity

when I was when I was when I was when I was and that I had to work, and that I and that I'm

that, and I end up the fire, and I pay it, I live in the denies. I'd like, I accumulated, I accumulet, and then I'd have gotten to say, yeah, yeah, I'd have nothing to say.

I mean, McSwen, I'd say, well, when Pierre-Rive, McSweene, I love, Pierre-Reeve, we'll see, and say, I love, I adore, when there's a chronic financial that's changed the post. Again, again, I think, I think that's the absurdity

of the human, I think it's absurd. I'm going to, but, again, but, again, again, but, again, there's just a million to find, you, you know, I have put a lot of fear and

anxiety. What is the fact that I'm going to be able to do you know because I'm in a month that I'm going to

make in Silii that's what I'm able to do that I'm able to do it's not able to do that. But there kind of a

part of me even if I have more that's a planet or our experimentation in our system I

don't know I think it that's absurd that it's absurd that it pass the same that you quette your hair

and you're just panse at your It's a bit absurd, we're like, we're a bit ridiculous. So there's a quote of me that's like, he's like rebelle by all over to that, but he's not

the equilibrium because I have a family. But I've been the past, I'm sorry, you have to do you have some provisions for these provisions

for the provisions budgetary. Without emotion. I understand. But because for for you, the money is not associated

to something of positive, not more. Is that you have this impression no more? It's to say it's something

that's something that can be something we can't You've you've been you've got to have been It's like

It's not that It's not It's not that I think that I'm able to say it's not sure that I'm able to have to have

to have been by having to think that in the two years it's a bit ridiculous so that's rendered at 75

80 I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm not I'm not but it's not

I'm not I'm not I'm able to have to be fun that you yeah I'm also

I've been long time to be rebel, but I'm I said, we're saying, we know

when we're going to be so I'm going to be like what I'm like to be being able to help,

but it's like the family or the children, and I'm super important my and my

parents. And, and yeah, be generous and we see, in the sense that I'm

in the sense, that I'm there's plenty of things that I'm if it's not much we're in

the same, I'm like, it's like, it's it doesn't I don't know. We've always been able to be able to.

Yeah, we've changed to have far as. Hey, and when I'm in a little apartment in a pocketment in pox, because I don't know if you're going to be able to be able, when you know, I've got to find out of

my own, interior, in something. Because, you know, there's a difference in that, and the survival of financial. Yeah. That, it's a lot of, you know, the people, like, how they've got to pay

their looye, to their apotheque, the epitceries, to go to restaurants, have been a look, you see, that. when the school

add up that's, we say, we don't have seen, a new new calculatorise person who

didn't know, that's tough, because it's a caper completely their thoughts when you say, but when you

know, but when you get to a other level, you can do you can do you like just

being comfortable not be not being rich but just quitted that these pensions that can't

you think, when I've lived that the first I mean, I said, okay, it's the only thing, okay, it's that the liberty. Oh, yeah,

it's not, you can't, you know, you can't, you know, no problem, you know, there's a few, there's been,

there's a period of the man, I'll have been a bit of a bit of, when it's, when I'm going to get a boat, and that's,

that, you create not, any, no, no, but, you know, but, you know, when you know, you know,

that's, okay, that, it's, okay, that, it's, okay, that, it's, okay, hey, when you've

you know, okay, the loy it's all right, you know, you know, you've got to place your affairs, I know, I've seen that before, and I've found out so, so I can't

imagine with these children. And it's so, my first time, I was going to do the epitcery and it's not that I exaggerate

not, but I had not my calculatrice or I had not to have to the case, I said, wow, that's the best that's the best of

this, you know, but it's you know, Yes, because sometimes we're trying But it's Yeah,

but it's always I'm going to say, well, it's always I'm going to I'm going to a bout of rea

I'm diminished You know, it's been it, it's It's a It's And it's And it's

And it's And it's When it's It's not It's not a Yeah, You're You're right

And I'm We're not We're It's always No, It's always It's quite It's quite

It's quite It's quite It's fun, We have to fun, We have to fun we're going to be to be free of fun and we're going to

be able to be able to and be sure when we're to see a pretext that maybe that's that's the 15

we're going to be a moment because I think it's like a experience, it's an experience of life we'll be

to have to fun yeah, it's not more I'm more it's like it's simple and we can't

be able to be fun and my fun and you don't know that we're that we're

that we're but we're but it's but it's seizing the moment to have to

yes we're We're doing We're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing the music, we dance, we're in the We're going to go ahead, we're going to, we're going to go ahead, we're going to go ahead, we're going to do you, have been a bit too, no problem, we'll have to do you, go ahead, we're doing a sauna, gross deposit on the asserting a sauna, but it's terrible, say, a day, bainthewan, a co-women, we're putting, everywhere in the coins.

You've seen, I? Hey, I've seen it, I? Yes, and it's good for the inflammation, yeah. Yeah, but, yeah, but, I'm, yeah, I'm just to take me of the duffalo-frored. You know, to finish like, let's the 30 seconds, 60 seconds

augmenting, and effectively, it's... I'm not for the head also. But you rest long time in your

when you're too cold, you can't rest more than two minutes, but if it's moderately hot,

you can rest more than it is that it's meditative, you don't think it's to think of anything, you respect, you,

you know, I'm listening, I'm hearing, then you're curious. Maybe a day I'll pay so, no, but because,

you know, inflammation also in the car. It's a immunitarian inflammation when we say when you say

you're in it's not you know it's sure that it's sure that it's so it's you're doing three so please

after that's this moment see I I'll ask you I'll ask you I'll

ask you you're going to a one yeah only one yeah only only one

thank so what is what is your definition of what has

you do renoncing to you do your relation with the my relation

with the war? I'd repeat to talk of the anxiety obviously I've

been a yeah, you can go to yeah, but my relation with the

more, as I've seen, I've seen, and all my life, and then,

I'm trying to say that in the grand moment present, I've no,

I don't in the end, in mind, in anyp when it's never I'm

about 25, I don't any idea, how I go to live that, but I'm

a pretty certain, I mean, I've been to care by the matter and it's all to be a part of

my conception that's about of the physics tantos, of where I'm to how I'm it, for me, it's not,

it doesn't exist there, there's a simulation that for me, the word no, okay,

that's the first time I'm trying to that's I'm not, I'm not, no, no,

but it's not it's not religious, what you're in trying to say, no, it's sure,

it's like it's like it's it's like, it's like, it's like the life is transformed? For me, the, the,

the, the, the, the state fundamental of something that's there's not

to be able and there's no time. Again, once it's a rapport to physical, for me,

it's a fact of my lecture, and all, for me, the word, not exist not,

in fact, you can't you're, there's a fine, to transition of something, effectively,

perhaps to pass to the other thing, that's, you know, if we can use,

if we can use the in a other sense. That's to say that's

this affair that's perhaps to be able and we pass to other other

things. But the more for me exists not. I'm someone who

said, you've had a there's there's there's there has been

that's in all what I in all what I in all my part

in all my I think we use the word I think

when when we It's like It's like to rebeye It's like, it's like, it's It's like, for me, it's For me, the simulation is much more

here. All what is envoyed as sign, and what I live, and what I see, it's a much more more of an parcel of my conscience that experimented these affairs in a world in three-dimension.

And after, you're in your own your own conscience to continue to to bring an expansion. For me, it's an affair of expansion. For me, I'll tell you,

how I'm visually, and that's it's a little bit. Something is something that's something that's something that I'm I don't know like a arm

that's in a car to live something. For me, if we're talking to the universe and the expansion, we

are all the thing, we're all the same thing, it's all to do you, there's not because God,

there's not, we're, we're, we're all part of the expansion of that. There's not there's no

there's no big bang for for me, and there's, you it exists, it it's a existence, it's a

for me, for me, conscience, it's capotee, you will put it in order, and then I'm going to have targues d'esotheric, but there's nothing to do you know what my conscience, and I'd like that, I'd say,

for me my conscience, I'd say it's like a sphere, and there's an infime part of that that's crystallize in a, in a world in three-dimension. You know, there exists

the fourth-eim, the second-in, the world parallel, the physics, it's all that. So, there's a party that's crystallize of your conscience, that experimented something

in three-dimation, and then he returns to your conscience, and then he returns, then, and he returns. So, like, I, I'm talking to part of the conscience. For me, the Cervo, it's a great tool.

But at the same time, or that's a man or that's a part of your car. So, it's an tool much more complex, we'll say. But it's an tool. So, when you t'encerr well, it's your own to your own, when it's not

to reliant, when it's not related to the preemption, so, to the anxiety, the future, the regrets of the past, when you're really in the moment present and that's all right, there's not an emotion related to that.

Your own is good for, you know, it's good for to have been to bring these texts. He's good to place the money without emotion. He's good

to pose the poe and the count of something. But the decision final is not your brain. My, my conscience,

it's my conscience, it's my car, it's past a year. When someone says, you can't,

you can use this word that? When you say when you, when you arrive to make that off and you can't just your

own instinct, it's your own Conscience is always there around you. We can say,

yeah, my mary is there, we're in it's, we're talking about but you, it's

my real decisions, and the affair that's my proper conscience. So, for me,

the more, I'm a big simulation in this moment that is signifiant there. There's a

great sense to that, but there something that there's something that's in this moment in

my life, when I I'm able to do you know, I'd never have to have to be able to to be able to to be in front of

it's sure that there's a lot there's a lot more more than my life. It's not all the time it's not that

I said, my blonde on the other day, and she said, I think that I think that I said, I said, I'm saying,

she'll be going to come to come to me and I'm sorry with her and we'll just but I'm not a choice

it's not true, it's for me, it's not Trist. So, there's a lot of drame,

the cuches of drama, that's been so much a lot of because it's a big simulation

signifiant. We're not there for nothing. We're not in trying to crystallize and to

be in this world in this moment for you for all our chemines are signifiant, there are

that they're more due, and they want to you know, you can me jude during

in eight in your time and you say, my God, it's freyant, it's I minimise of nothing.

All the chimes are signifying. But for me a gross couch of drama. It's a

whole of this course of the time. It's been two years. Three hour,

max. So it's that it allege. Oh, yeah. And it and it

and it is not to say that's not important. At the contrary, it's super

important. No, but your vision, your comprehension, when even, it's not

the end. Because it's that And then I remit not in question those who think it's illegitim I'm not sure I'm not sure

I'm not sure I'm not but it's your opinion but it's just that I think like to think like you it's an

idea of that of finitude of fined Yeah and I'm I'm in certain situations it's not

to me with someone I think I procrastinate not that I'm not it's not not to be

not to see that's like to say you have a family there's a there's a there's

there's these affairs, and, you know, I advance, and I continue to tripe, and I'm excited by these affairs, and these projects, and I'm where I'm having, you know, and what I'm allume, and what's, that for me, it's important.

But in the same time, there's, there's a co-to-meau who's always, why you capitol to the eternity? Arrette to think that, that if you're not that, that's you know, you know, you know, that's true.

You know, for me, for me, I get the eternity. But it's true. Yes, yes. But, but, but, but I'm trying to say,

I'm trying to I'm going to be able to it's not so it's not so in a lot of but in a time, you know,

I'm going to, if I'm not, I'm not I'm not my life. Hey, oh, relax, your life,

your life, there, she'll say something, but relax, to the eternity, there's not. Alive a bush.

Hey, it's all left buch, eh, and let's, and so, is that, is that tableone

is at the same place to you? Well, We're talking. We're at some part

that's not always at a same place. For me, there's not there's not I'm not, I'm not,

I'm going to but you're able to be able to talk to yeah, she's so. She knows my point of view

by all to that. And effectively, she's a year, we're not always a place,

but there's not there's not a question but there's there's a problem that there's a much more

calm and who is who is much more of the end, I can't me assuared, and me acottet

to be tranquillement on someone and jazes and be in your present. And not to be in your anticipation. I'm not trying

to minimize what they're and say, hey, relax, because there I don't I'm just by the other it's true.

It's what I know, it's that's what I know that's that change something. I'm, I'm not, I'm,

there's there's not, it's these things that that I'm abit but that I'm that I'm not constructed

for trying to try to it's made docement. I'm not I'm going to arrive to the round of the way I'm going to

get Jesus Freight because it's going to it's really tranquillement these little paws baby step lecture,

machine, a thing, my life, what's what what's the time, the meditation, the things

that's okay that's, so it's that that's so that I'm not that I'm not that for me to be sure

to have to have to have to have and I and I'm I'm arriving at 71, on the island,

and I'm going to say, oh, my God, I'm going to have to be, I'm going to be able to, I don't know, I'm going to be able to, I'm going to be able to think to that. No, no, I'm not going to

think of that. We're going to pass on the question. Hey, now, you'll go to put it all the screen. You know, and we're saying, it's been an esoteric, finished.

Well, here, I'd say that in the comments, the people are very, very respect of what they're talking. There's a bit, and I'm not,

no, no, but it's because there there's, of these places that's more the time, I'm

I'm at every time to see, I'm at sure of the opportunity, you know, sometimes we

don't know but we respect, you understand, the respect, it's super important for,

for, to us and to make a person that there's a person that marce,

to start, to say, oh, I've never heard that oh, well, it's interesting,

you know, it's, you know, it's over, it's, it's, it's, for me, For me, it's the contact of human.

It's to be, to position, to say, I'm saying, I'm not, not sure, but, but, again, it's interesting, I think, to, to be, to, to, to, to be able to think, how I'm feeling about that? So, if we're in a same thing, we're in a room, we know, we, we're questioning, never, we, we question, never,

so, so, I think, to put it. We've been in a society where, the first word, it's a pair, yeah, that's a moment, it's going to, to have to say, it's going to to say, it's going to do what to have fear? I don't know what I'm going to talk. But you have to say what we think. And if it's a provokes, it's a provoked,

but that's a part of the life. I'm, what I like, is when someone wants to just provoke. Or convertive. Or convert. That's fatigant. But when you say, I'm here, I'm going, I'm going to be there,

I can't think what you want, but I'm going to put my point of view, but after that's, okay, attend. And I, my, my, my, my constable, it's true it's absurd, to see, to see, the time of people who are

people I'm afraid of I'm afraid of I'm afraid of I'm afraid of I'm afraid of I'm afraid that I'm afraid

I'm afraid of a I'm afraid of I'm a car I'm in a pack I'm an attack I'm an assack like the end 40, you

understand, it's what that's what it's not to be there, it's not it's been in your life,

you know, live, tripped, be you fun, go, with what you try, what you're trying,

what you're seeing, at second pre, it's just that that's just that that's mebleed also it's made

You know, you know, there's just, you know, it's just... Because often, when the people have these fears like, it's a lot, so it's a circus vicious. Just that you're alone, so, like, you just you're just, you know, you go to some, you know, so, so that, you'll, so, like, you'll aliment your power.

Yeah, you create your film, that's in the power. Exactly. You're not, exactly. There's something that can't exist not. He could arrive, so, but, yeah, it's not there. But, no. Nive O, eros, and company, yeah, yeah, party.

Yeah, party. Come on. So, you mean I don't know four, if you please. Well, I don't know if you, no, you don't have five. Okay. At all right, I said,

I'll have been in a minute, I'll have to be able to a card. Thank you. So, I'm going to choose one. Perfect. Is it easy for you to express your desire to and you're at least

with the nudity? Of which your life sexual has it evolved with the time? Yeah. What do you do you get you

to your first time? Oh, my God. You're not. You're not a single one. Oh, yeah. It's easy for you to express your

desire to syndicob. That's the fun. Are you at a light with the nudity and more? The way you're in fact

you're in fact it's interesting. We'll bring that because it englob more of the thing.

The way sexual to have been able to my therapy of the fact that sometimes I'm a mature

and sometimes I'm insecure, in performance, having a bit of disovover so that's the fun

because, obviously it can be stagnant, you can be moored and you can have evolved there

but I think that's about our life, by our couple, by our 25 years,

by our it's all of the other question, we're able to be able to say, we're able to

do that that's what we're in a period extraordinary, my blonde and my blonde and and me,

it's because we're past by these moments of insecurity, and it's it's tradue physiologically,

we're not we're not, we're not there, we're not there, we're not because you're because you're

not you're because you're because you do don't that's so it's merveeous. And then you're, you know, you're

super excited when it's super excited when it's not in the question, you're not in the moment present, you're not bad. So, it's

all sorts of of phase, of life, and the men, sometimes, we're afraid of the

people, we will say also, the people that I know, that's, we're not, we've been

about the hormones, we're not about the hormones men, and it's important to be, and the guys

don't want to be there, and they're there's not there's not there's not, or that's it's not, but we're

a packet of hormones, we're also, you know, the diminution of testosterone in years ago, there's a there's a way to

get to be able to you know, we've got to, you know, we've got to a pack of affairs, we're talking about and it's important

to beaudy to have been about it, but I'm not much talking, but if we're going to let's, let's

some, let's it's a documenter that's an documenterableable a packet of to talk about, hey, hey,

I've got, I'm getting chum, there, and it's, it's, I'm going to present my urologue. Go see, we'll see.

But I think that your documentaire, I would probably to pursue with with these themes. Yes. Because the idea is there, you know, you know, she'll do it

in the way. In the way, you could have, to do you or even with other chum, you know, or even, no matter,

but it's a thing, I think that you're over a way where, you know, you know, we've, we've got,

we're, we can be, we can't speak, the guys of sex, we can't talk, the guy you have a lot, you'd have a lot of

things. And, you know, when you know, when you start, when you're there's a lot of there's a lot of

also, and then after that you will have to be able to be purement physical or physiologic. You know,

we're not to be able to get in form, I don't, I don't know the testo, but you can't it's always,

I'm getting some of the problems. Well, yeah. For the other to be regular frustration

in the cup. You say, well, I mean, you know, in the missions that we were doing when Mary Claude we talked of a pack

of affairs. I remember these missions on on the sexuality. There are some of the number of messages and at all the

number of messages that we had and there said, me, my mom, my mom, my mom, my chum

would not be a guy where you're going to be able to be able to be able to be able to it's, how

we're trying it's like a, it's like a own? Think you there's something like that? There are one who has

to go out of people to consultate and say I don't know, I don't know, I've got, I'm, I've got, I'm using, I mean, I don't, I mean, I'm, I'll say, I'm, I'm going to, but there, there's, you know, the way, see, you know, I'm, you know, I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry, you know, you're saying, you know, it's, it's a professional, there's not, there, but, there's a job psychological, I imagine that, that, you know, that, you know, by the part of this question, there, there, what, you know, what, it's, you know, it's fun with the time, it, is, When you advance also with the same person,

it's that the two, we're very in the reality, we're both in the time in the

moment present. So, there's a little, there's a one of my Psy

who said all the time, and I said, Mr. Atante, I said, etand,

it's tend, it's tend, attend, attend, attend, attante equal deception.

There is never an attempt. That, that it would say, so it's so in the

moment present. And what you can advance in a couple and that the two

are the way, it's in what you're in the way to be so you're a lot of

the good, you're in the good in the good, the eyes, the regard, the comprehension,

the fun, the verity also, there's no to say, what's that you know,

what, vice versa, you know, I'm like, I'm not that, but it's not necessary, but if it

happens, it's cool. But there there's actually if it's something, if it's really, if it's

arrive not it's not grave so there I think you tell you know that

what I'm that's, it's, it's that you don't know in retrospective some of the last time

you've made a lot and it's never been a time because he arrived that not because

it was not planned it's not planified no, no, it's never been

pretty much it's not it's not it's not it's so, so so it's so it's so it's

so it's part much of the communication and when you're in the communication is the fun

the sex is even the fun it's more more tripping so it's it's the fun to be the fun

to be 25 grand with the same and the two you're just not in the well we're getting used

we're not we're not we're not there we're doing the simplicity and we can't have to have some fun

in a life so that so that all this there's there's even there's again there's yeah

And I'm still my blonde magnificent also, you know, so even if in my life,

I'm not in the, hey, we're so it's really real real, I'm never,

I mean, the young, so I think, when I chripe some mrs. So, so I'm

like, I'm in the family, so, so, so, so, so,

so, like, the, that's never, a car is a car, that's not, a pair of

a day, he's not, you know, they're, it's, because my blonde me would say, hey,

I'm at this moment in my life, I want to be able to my view, we're not about. The odor,

the respiration, the mo, the eyes, the touch, the poe, so, yeah, my blonde

is magnificent. Tendmere, but it could be more perfect than that and it's not

true. You know, I'm not in the I'm excited, you know, yeah, but it's not

my research in a life, so it's It's all the communication. It's all... What's what you say this communication

that? There's a lot... There's a lot... I said that there's always, but in there are kind of there, there are in seeing

in old year, to say, is that my partner will want to renewly? Is that my partner will want

to be too very, he will say, look, I'm going to go I'm going to go to a more

young, you because there are there are many of fear face that

because we know also it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like

when they're when they feel like they feel like to renew with someone more young to know

to know with someone it's like it's like but in the same time it's not

a response I see there's there's there's there's there are

a super well but it's but for there's there can't there can't because

it's how it's hard when you're a time it's difficult

there's also there's like a there's like a judgment also and we propose a lot of people I think it's I think it's a confrontant

to have enough of offer to get along the sign of the it's dangerous it doesn't it doesn't because we're

totally interpolled by that I'd say if I would be, oh maybe maybe maybe there's there's so there

there's too there people can't insensive and it's there but it's like in certain culture

It doesn't exist not that. You're absolutely right and I think for the

women, as you can talk to the name of the women, I'm talking on the

women, even when we're not, even when it's not grave in our couple,

you know, it's not a issue, we're we're in saying, is,

is, is that's is that's normal that I'm, you know, I'm, you could

have been more physically, I'm not, it's correct? Is it I think, in

case, I mean, I, I think, so, I know, to know that's a child, or the subalantly, no matter

that we're, that this person that we're in beautiful, because it's the person that we know,

and we're all of it, I think, that's a paise, it alhage. So, we want to go to,

what's to the rejeunism, we can, but it's not for the reason to who I

rest young in his regard. Completely. I think that it It's going to be in... Hey, the gross fun

comes in communication. In the moment, ensemble. It's that that is exciting. It's that that is the fun. You know, it's not... It's absolutely that we have to have

to have a 28-year-old, it's not... It's not... It's not... And, you know, there's... There, there's... The intelligence,

the communication, it's exciting, that, you know, and, you know, the person who partages their life, they say, I'm saying,

I'm trying to tell they're telling they're not it will believe. All right. Because we're

in a world of image. Well, you know, it's it's so so I'm like you know

I'm like I'm but you know it's it's complex so when we can get to

when we we're like it's it's appellate when you it's we're saying it's okay

well we're right it's right because we're we've had a real we're we're trying

we're trying it's just it's not it's not it's that it's that's that it's so to do that you're at home, you're

at your, and you're at your own, they're nice, they're well, they're old, you know, but, you know, the rancont of someone,

the jarosage of vans, the bill, it's even not obliged to have a billed up, but I'll say, we'll

say, we'll bring an event, a few fun, in a restaurant, we, we, we've talked of something, we've said,

it's all, it's all all the communication, you, so, that's for that I've never been in the one-night, a girl

that I'm not, or it's like, you know, No. That you're need. Oh, I have a link.

We're able to be able to my blonde, you know, I'm able to get to get that and have to have someone

to find out of she's the girl who's, she's, she? There's not, we're not, we're not

confronted. We're not, she's not , she's not menace, she's not and vice versa. I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I've been because I'm insecure, I'm not a year, I'm a guy, my blonde did what's what you

do you do, my blonde, I'm sure what you're insecure, and I'm not good. Now, in my life, that my

blonde me talk to be able to and that's going to be in a row, and it's not for me.

It's like, you're like, you're you're you're I'm, I'm a Christy

duot, we're be able to be able to be so I'm I'm sorry to say,

I'm going to say, no, I'm not, I'm going to go, I'm going to whatever to

because he's the guy. M. Foo, I'm in front because it's because you have confidence in you? Yes, I'm

good. You're good with you? And then you're doing, and then you know, and my blonde, I'm saying, it's the verity incarnate.

No, but it's because it's like it's right. Yeah. You, it's like... It's the fun to be able to jazze.

It's the fun to sit on a and say, okay, too, let's on for the phone. What's

see, you have never said that you're legal? It's the fun to be able to do that without apprehension,

it's, that's, that is so it's Tellment cool. And, yeah, and that's a

25 years. Yes. It's a construction, it's due time, it's of time, it's the time, it's plenty of

things that you do that. Yeah. To get it to be able to that, I mean, I'm sure.

I mean, I'm sure. It's clear, but I'm sure, but I have a moody, a bad period.

It's like in a old, it's like in a day, we're in a other question,

the question opto-rezo. So, When you regard your life, what was the most beautiful period?

It's now. It's really now the most old period. You know, I'm out of I'm going to say, I'm going to

see, I'm going to see a school to the theater, I'd expect that I know a day, and I've made a party,

and I've made the cinema and the films, and I've started to tryper there to, and I've said, wow, okay,

you know, all this affair that for me, like, a other period, you'd have asked to me ask, it's the fact

that I'd say, that I'd say, I could say it's the first that I have encountered

my blonde but the the word period period it's

there in the is you are you are you do that yeah that I'm

content and it it's null liy to the accomplishment

financial or to I get to it to be

about to it so it's very it's very very

interior like it's very interior like So, so I'm so I'm so I'm

so you're not going to have to be able to have to be I'm not that I'm not that I'm not that's a

little, I mean that's because it's a baby, yes, I'm tripped when I got to

my blonde, but I'm not in the moment present, so I'm so I'm ennue but I'm but I'm

in equilibrium also. Yeah, I'm not, my blonde and my blonde and I had been there's young and we're

in voyage. Yes, it's all the fun, but it's this period six, it's like

I'm the real. But you can't or it at the interior? Yeah,

yeah, yeah, I'm very calm. I'm very calm, and I'm the joy and the fun

and the fun and it's merveyed on a new age, I'd never think that my

life, so, and for real, and it's just for to make to make a

for my and they're too, I'm too, I'm too, I'm trying to get these

o'waso in my course? You're do the name the nuages of the

a name of a lot of a lot of but it's a passion, the Jews. Yeah, the Nimbus,

the Cumulus, the Cumulow Nimbus, but in the same time, no, it's really in the visual

and it's the world, and I'm to turn with, me said, I'm going to go to go to

go to a day, you know, I'm going to identify 10, I'm going to identify 10, you know,

but I'm not to get to be gay that you can to look at to look at all the but I'm

my bonner, to be able to me have had to me My first cafe out and to hear the chants

while I'm my coffee or my first my first of the whole of the time. It's all

that's all that's a thing. It's the best of my life because I can't

say that I can't say, thank you thank you. It's a great encounter.

Thank you. Thanks to thank you to do that. Thanks to too, it's really it's a touchue.

It's a touchue, no, but it's, I think that's a good connection.

Yeah, it's a fun of Jaise. and I think I think I'm sorry

I'm happy I'm glad and what I'm what I'm that's the fun, it's that you leave very

so it's fun it's not an interview where you know what I do you say it's like

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's very

very very but your but your but you it's it's a partour

sineue yeah and there you're like you're like you're like you're like in

a show, you know, I mean you know, you see, you know, you know, you see, you know, you're in your moment present, but you're more inquired for what you're a lot of, that's a

great difference, so. Thank you, so I'm sure that's going to have inspired the people, and thank you, really, and at the next podcast, bye-bye. This episode

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