Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #122 Geneviève Jeanson | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

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the story a few years. She came to an book that's called, you'll see, I'll just just put on a

little gorget of an old. She came to create a book, just by the title, you will understand. The title

of his book, it's the caseure. It's an autobiography of Genevieve

Janson that we have seen as cyclists, like one of the also, it's been an athlete

Olympic, Genevieve, and her career is terminated tristently because she has tested positive to a test of dopage.

So, she doped at the OPEO, she'd augmented these globules in the sand with

this substance that to make in sort that they become more perform so.

So, her career of athlete is terminated to this fashion that. It's

had been very, very because it was really a grand athlete Quebecoise. And, and, we've seen

some of it, like at the years that his trainer had made, also, to bring this substance

that, that it had not been easy, that had been very, and that had been finally

separated of this man, for, to reprend his life in mind. And this

book that all of his life. There are there read, but it's a Genevieve who

go well today, and she has accepted the invitation to Vreton Jue, because honestly, I think there's

books like that, these books, or the authenticity, the truth, and we're not in the world

of the world, sometimes you know, it's hard with words, even if it's

hard to read, it's what she's what she's that it has been many people

people who are under an person, to perhaps to be sort.

It's what we want to want to or to know to to be in a moment of a moment of

our life. So I'm very, very content to have to have to be with us so it's the

time to let's the place at Genevyev Jansson. And my and I know,

that's where you're in the world, Genevieve, you're going to get to

where is you're, is what you want to you want to do you come, we're

to get an b' and I'm and and I say no, I want,

you want, it's because I just, it's because I just because I wanted to make batter and I had to be able to it's not able to it because, well,

for making the people in context, you know, I mean, I said if you do to say to someone by my trainer, if you

reveal that, I will to be to and then after that, I will be suicidal it, it's not it doesn't

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Couple are available everywhere in Quebec and on www.ca. As I just I've been to

you know, I'm the chance, and I consider really that as a privilege because I read his

book, I read all the interview that she has done in the course of the years.

And for me, it's that the gift of the I do, I read,

I look, I look, and I have this person there for me, Jean-Bever

Genceon, welcome. It's me pleasure. I'm so content to be here. I've

listened also your podcast before to come you know, like I'm talking about camera,

I know who you were but I didn't know I'm a podcast and I started to listen

and I think that the time interesting, the people that are, the people who are

people who I'm very inspired and it's a bit nervous because I'm my God me also

I'm going to go to it will have to have to I'm I'm over, on plenty of things, that at date, in my

interview, it's often on my career, on these facts precise, on some of the question, and, you know, the dynamic of the game, I was like,

what's going to ask a question, and I've never talked to that, so, but, I'm nervous again, but it's you've put your

hand-dye, in all the case, that's that will be going to be. Yeah, it's indestructible. What's what

that means for you? I'm indestructible. It's say that while what's you've been

we're still we're able to be able to be able to get our together and we're to continue and to have

a life that's sane and we're able to seepanoe in this but the t-shirt

when I got to I'm I'm not when it's before the pandemic let's

between 2016 and 2020 I'm I'm trying I'm I'm trying to get some I'm

on the site the Petes Gazelle Atole and I had seen a t-shirt

that said minu with the moustache of a chah and with my conjoin of the time, Paul,

we're called mutually Minoo. So I'm said, I'll offer my kit-en, I'll

buy two t-shirts one for me, one for him, and when we're going to have our t-shirts and it.

So, it's on this site web that for actually that I'm on the and it's

and it and it's made directly without what's what's in the and what

is in that's a platform who who don't a place to victim of violence

sexual, to be in either of or not, to talk their history and to start the

conversation to make advance to the dialogue. So, I, not, not that,

the t-shirt me I'm going, I'm put to a couple repries in

in the context mediatic, but sometimes, you, and I'm did

not often, but I have And the young female in the shirt has found my profile

Instagram, me wrote on Instagram, and I said, it's a very hot to care that you put my

t-shirt, it's me that's in this way, she's on the story of the t-shirt. And,

and I've decided to it today because it's kind of the debut of my campaign with my

auto-bio-graphy I've written, and I'm said, I'll ported that because I want to make the tone.

It's a message that I say to me to be a and also I want to be solidary invers all the victims

of violence and of violence sexual to say I'm with you, and if I can be a voice,

if I can put your daughter on my and me to be the voice for trying to

try to make progress the discussion, I'm able to put to that. Because

there, you talk to your autobiography that's called the cassure, how you

feel about that that. Because, is that you have the impression you're going to re-ovirre because you're here today, but you're also of the promotion, obviously, when you

launch a book, I imagine you're going to do the salon of the book, you know, that you don't your story, it's written, is it is that, it's

it's going to what's going to be a bit fear, but the book, it's not, it's not a therapy for me.

You know, I've really regained my things before it's not, I'm not that I'd be able to that with

these blassure open. It's a little more a literature of combat. I'm in

my story to do you know, but in the same time, I've called my Gilbert,

my my second from my return to my return to my return to then, and I said,

I said, I know what what's the can't be that's the problem, we know, we've been

we're always we're never capable of it's efface, we can't only learn to learn to be

but there with all what's who's coming, I don't how I'm going to be

now. Now, yes, it has been many years that I'm a stable and that's

a good, and that I'm able to do you know, but we know when the little when the

little time, you know, I mean, I mean, I mean, to be the place for me,

he said, like, yeah, he came to come, so, I'm going to be able to

and he will be to come to be in and what what's what's what's

what? So, I'm so, but in In the same time, you know, in the book, I'm really at new,

I'm talking that's my chums. I'd say to my chum, my first chum, my first chum, he's Greg, my second, who is Paul,

because I felt that it was my devoire, that these men, that, that's what that's what

our relationship be equal to equal to, and, you know, for they understand also my blessures, because I had

fear of act in a way completely bizarre and that they're

that they don't understand not, is it's me who has made something why he

react so, you know, I want to make cards on table and I think that I want

a little to say, that's me if you if you think that if you're if you're

not capable to live with my story, you know, come not in my life.

You, I'd I'd like a space of a port of sort of saying, well,

you can you can't be in if you know, and then the two have decided

to rest there, but so that to say that in my book,

I've described things that person know that that

who have part of my life. Okay, it's at that that,

yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I've had used I've had used the

occasion of the change, I'm I mean to say, it's it's

a book, I'm I mean, and I had the impression, really, Genevieve, that's,

that's all right, that's all right, it's saying, it's very, we can, we're, we, we're, we're,

we're going, we've, it's a little like that, I'm sure, I'm saying, and we're, and we're,

it's retrycy, it, at least, there's a world around to you, there's a more, there's no, there's no, there's no,

there's only, there's only, there, there, and after that, we're in your, it's hard,

it's hard, to read, it's hard to report it. So I can imagine and finally, well, you're there today,

you're finally by t'clock but I can say that all those and those who are they're going to

they're going, they're going to a moment of a little it's strange but I feel like that you say that

because I write also with that in the time. You know, I think that's not

a book of sport, it's a book of the sport was accessory in my life,

in what what I've We've ever seen We've heard We've heard We've got to talk about DPO

or dopage But now we're We're here We're exactly It's not That's not That's not That's not

I'm in my life But it's It's It's part of the history But it It's not

Exactly And I And I'm I'm just I'm I'm promised there very long time

to be authentic This authenticity that It's been It's because it You know

There's We've got to learn It's all our little little part black

to be able to be able to be a 100% authentic eventually. So, when I

have taken the decision to write the book, I'm going to do you and you

will come and you want to be your people, because even if my background, there my career

of an athlete professional I, I want that the people of all

the people be able to be able to be able to see recognize.

So the sole way of able to do that was to be able to be able to

really to really to create the mechanic of my brain how it's so that

if you have seen that it's it's it's a so I'm so I'm so I think

to all those and those who have been victim of agression

sexual victim of course I mean to say it's an imprise

it's sure that will be and we'll know that there's a suite to it's like

it's not it's not it's not with the impris and that and that I think that's that's going to

because even in the book we're oh, we're in we have to the oxygen you know

there's there's a there's there's a and in the end of I said when you're

I said I said I was very I'm with Natalie Simar when you you'd

and you I'd say you're something there's a tron common one of you two who's

who's who's who's seeing rapidly and I'm to say that you're in

after because I think in the society for the victims of traumatism but

again it's not a question to be not a question there is

the state of surviving and we let at the state of survival

it's like oh my God Genev I I'm I'm

really that you're that's that's that that's bravo for being

in now, and that's it. I'd like to make, I'd like push in fact, the conversation and the tools that,

yes, victim, yes, survivant, but, yes, guerier. Each victim has the right to have a life where is

we can't be able, but there's kind of a transition to be able to use our experience and survive, it's

already good, it's already positive, but it's when we're when we're all the time insuffled, you know, we're trying to

not be in retard, we're trying to, it's a course against the time, against the world, counter the time on

a moment on a day, we can say, okay, me also, I'm driving. You know, I'm going to my life, I'm

in the decision to be the heart of my life. But that I think it can't like the

point in the point, in the experience, it's not just to start to the situation. No,

exactly. Live, live, after. After, exactly. The difference between survive and live at new.

Exactly. So, I hope my voice will be able to serve at that. But in

all the life, I think it's not be pressed to read. I think it is a book, you know,

it's a time, you know, I'm an impression really to know what you can't. When I

you see, I have plenty of images that me come in the time, and the invitation. Well, it's

really pleasure. Is it ready to open to open your my god, yes. Well, at a minute

you're doing, it's on tarot, it's so the tarot? And there, it's not that,

but it's me, it's a scene that, or finally, there's great verite.

The Tireus of Carte. Yes. Seriously, I, I, I, didn't,

I didn't, I'd not even, really, but it's like if I had been an experience

divine, you know, that's I'd have arrived at a moment in my life where is that it has done these pieces

without that I'm not going to be to make to take to the cart I don't know what's going to what's what it's my life

and that in the same time I was completely I was, I think I'm saying yeah it's like

in the time she said she had some things I'm saying like it's impossible yeah yeah Gregor

that you You know, you know, you know, that you said, you had not, you know, didn't, you know, you didn't have ever seen, no, no, exactly. Oh, no, but in the book, that, it was, ah, kind of. So, now, level ver, it's these questions of order generic. The level jondre, it's these questions of order more specific. Roche is really more intimate. It's addressed catoa.

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time that's a it's a great encounter, we go long and I think you have to partire I'm so

let's let's part of the invite not with sometimes sometimes we know things that we've never

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So, so I tell you the questions. What's that you're in vulnerable? For being with me, I do. on what trait of character have you due to have done

a difference in your life how react you to you to the authority well the person who have made a difference

in my life there's I don't I'm not I don't make a list of an list of

if I my my God I I think I think I will choose how I react to the authority. Okay, let's see. Very mal, in fact.

Very mal. I'm... I'm... I'm... I'm sure that I've lived with an authority very young with my trainer. I'm going to be able to... His authority had really been in-price on me.

I had, well, 14, 15. I stayed there for 10 years So in all my years formative I was in a authority

that I could not contested and after when I finally I'm finally sort of

I had a period of brouiard where is that I I'm rebelled against

all without really the but but now with the recule I look

my actions and it was kind of these actions who wanted take the control

on what I could be able to take the control and if I'm very honest with me in some moment it's sure

that I'm going to see certain regs like on the stop I've made, the light what can

get in danger the other I'm going to see that at the letter. I'm not difficulty

with that but what is a reglement in my life professional and in

my life personal I I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to do it

I'm just the word English in my head that's bend I'm

I'm trying to play a little little bit so the soup the doce the

doce you know you you want change the if it if it

don't you're not you're not to be to play to that no exactly and

and it's something and it's something if I'm a way that I think in my

time I'm I'm to do you know, and then I'm talking about, with my Psi, not and I'm not even to be a patron.

I don't know to be authoritative, okay. No, that's still more poor. And when I was he said, yeah, but, you know, Genevieve, I think that you

don't know that, because you have in your head a view pattern of how your entrainer had with you. But, me, with my with my

old, Paul, not the propertyate of the studio Orange and Rhy Fitness

at Vaudreye and when I was I was ready for a change of career I was in restoration but

I'm a little little bit more and I'm my God if I'm if I'm ready to be at 40 years

and I'm still in I'm still at two, three, four, four hours of the because I

starter never in this milieu that and I'm starting to get fatigued I'm trying to find it difficult

the horrors, even if it's a milieu merveille that I adore, I've always always liked the restoration.

I'm saying I'm probably a change after I didn't know, and Paul and I'm said, well

I'm going to open it with my friend, I have been an entranor chef, is that you

will be an trainer chef? We're advance in the history, I'm an trainer chef,

I'm there's an trainer in my charge, I detest to say to someone what to

do something, I'd detest being like the guardian, sassure, that all the

whole people have done to be the police, verify if it's made, I, I,

I'm, how you see, how you're at the moment that? But I felt that

it was not my place to say that because, because, I mean, I'm a

very, I've done, I'm, I've done, I'm still, I'm still, a personal agency,

so, I'm able to, I'm going, I know what my priorities, I'm playing action, I'm proactive, I'm imagining a little, I attend that these others. But there, to have their say, okay, that Mark Lowe's

not made yet, you know, I'm going to be done for yesterday, is that you can do you find out of your if you can't have your certification? Yes, yeah, no, no problem, the landmine, it's not made, to go and verify that. A moment of a, one, it's,

and two, it's like, I'm I'm, I'm not at my place, to demand that even if

it was my position. Even if you were able to do it's just that you, by the other,

you know, you know, to have a authority on someone. Yeah, to, to see,

I, you know, I'm always they're always their impose something, and there, if it's not because it

they're not because it's because it doesn't, so you know, so you like you're not impose something,

you don't, but in in the same time me to make impose certain things.

I'm good in a routine, I'm to see, to see, to see, the

life of an athlete professional well, it's quite a time, we have an

routine, we have our competitions at a date, and we see, we find that

also in the community professional we have, on some, it's

that's that's going with that, but I'm I'll see not,

the authority, a certain point, and that my conjoin, Paul, who was, in as a proprietor of studio, who had me

also certain things that I did not, and that he had to be difficult also, because I would say,

I'd reactissed to his authority, you know, a little like, well, I'll do it when it's

time, you, so, so, no, it's something of a very, very complex. I'd

have a relation more sane with that. I think that I'm am better with the years, but

certainly because I 've been found and I had a discussion and it's a discussion that is always in course

but it's sure that if I imagine my life in the future and where is I'm going, yes,

I want to do something of something more than something of more I'm, I will have

eventually an authority that will me say certain things that have been made, but I

want to have the power to choose and to do it and do it a little to be in my

fashion. Because there there's like authority and dominance. Yeah. You've had vicarue

someone that's so we're like the two s entremaine at a moment

don't know also, it's that you see that like with a great crayon

it's like it's like it's not legate for you. No, exactly and it's

still mailer. It's like, it's it's a lot. So, when you insist for that someone has something, you see that more low than it's maybe in reality for the other. Because if you're a patron, you're

to attend to or see, you're to be guided. You know, you're at the same time the patron, or being, well, it's an trainer-in-in-chef, it's with responsibilities. If the clients are not content, it's you, that we're going to see. But I understand that,

this sentiment that, it's interest not. So you have the capacity to say no. Yeah,

exactly. And it makes to think to do other other other things

also. It's a bit in marriage of the authority, but the confrontation.

I'm there's a difficulty with that that. Even if suppose, I'm in

a place, and I see two people to have an argument. An argument

is an Anglicism I think, to have an miscar or an a disactors,

I'm I mean instantaneously And that I know I see that it's I think

I think I think I think I think the authority is also related to that

because when the members in studio were not content or even in restoration when the

client was not content of what what what had in some plan

even if it was not of my fault I had all the emotions

who remounted in the same time that what's what I'm how I'm how I'm how I'm

how I'm how I'm doing that what I'm doing that so it's it's so it's

uncomfortable uncomfortable but there but I well I'm the I'm the chance

now to have in my life there people plenty of people and I'm

capable to have these gross discussion there without to

that it that it's a confrontation, where is I'm going to I'm going to I'm talking about the it's pernicious

that's pernicious what you've it's going everywhere. Yes, it's it, it's it, it's, it's, it's,

it's, because what I think I'm particularly in this response that is that, is that in the two sense

for you, the authority difficult, when you're the authority and when you receive the authority

of someone of the position is mince for for you to be in your place. I don't know

because if I consider the world in which Genevieve Jansson the person that I'm the person that's

where is where is I want to be an leader positive. I know that I'm able to do it

I'm able to show the example with my actions, with the decisions that I bring in

my life personal in all this I'd like to be capable to inspire people but not just

with a discourse with a march to see with with other things be capable to give them also a structure

to build something with other person so I would like I'm in this position that eventually

when I think to that and I think to where is where is what I'm in this moment with my relationship

with the authority as you do the two side, I mean, okay, well, there Genevieve, you know, it will have to have to do you face

some foot to, just to build this pond. But it's the confidence in you, when you become the authority of other, to make confidence, say, well, it's that you have to

say, but the reaction, I'll have that pass by that, you know, there's like a, it's a, you know, it's also when you work for someone of other, but

if it's you who is all right in-off, well, it's not something to, it's not someone else who will say, you do

say to, you have to you know, you know, you know, for to assume completely.

Because, you know, when I'm I think, I think you have really to have really to be able to to say,

to you know, to say, if you're doing, I'd be able to, you know, when I'm, when I

think to me, when I was when I was not, I'm never, you know, it's been efface, it's sure

that, In my processus of reconstruction, I've learned that with certain traumatism you're

have to have a blackout and you do you don't choose what, and often it's the

beautiful things that are effaces. It's it's the bad experiences that we've

going to tinted all the beautiful more of the emotion and the

moveh but I have a discussion with my mother and

she said when you were young you'd have four or five

when we were, we lived in St.ilaire, I've demenaged to St.ilaire at the summer the year of my seven years. So, I had six, I'd have seven at the end of the end. And I'd have stayed and then I was trying to play out, me, and, well,

three, four other, little children. And the guardian had parted at the wasin. The port had barred. So, we'd have, we'd let's get

to enter at the interior, the port was barred. All the other little kids'emphans, we're going to pleurred, where is she is Diane, our guardian, blah, blah, blah. And me

with my petite confidence, I'd say, ah, well, inquieter not, she'll certainly revene, she'll not abandoning, and I'm coached, she'll pass over to that, and the guardian is arrived on the entrefeet, and it's she has all who had all seen my mother.

So, I had that when I was when I was petite. I had this confidence, that, to go to the other, you my parents, I'd If I was not in English, my father my parents

when I had needed to something, and we were in a milieu anglophone, my father me would say,

I was able to go to ask in English, what I'm and I'm like, and I'm, like,

I'm, like, I've heard to me to tell. I'm to, and that, I think that's quite

common, of victims of violence or of children who come to family violent or

with the parents alcoholic, we learn to observe we're trying to try to anticipate when the person will be violent

when we say when we say when we say we're saying we're trying to always on our guard and not to

get to be not to take too place not to bring too of place not to not to bring to take

I in my life with my when he makes to bring these decisions and they're well yeah

yeah go see I could, well, I'd my decision at the minute that it was not quite or that's not

not quite performant, that it was in anyporte he made a little on the knee you're like, well,

you know, you know, you've got, you know, if you've done it, we'd have done, we'd have done,

we've got, we've done, but finally, but finally, not to defend, to say, to say, it's clearly

not the bad. It's clearly not the so, our intuition, the little you see, we're in the internet. We're going to be

listening. When you talk of reconstruction, it's all that. It's all that. And I

try to find the little, the little the little the little the little I'm in

my, I know, I'm not I'm not always have any of the rapport to the authority

that's malcy so, so, when I sometimes when I'm sometimes when

I'm in trying to try to get to get to exist, with the memories that my parents me say, when I

were more young and all that. But in the case, I wish that you retrove that because you have this drive that of someone

who's a leader you're a leader, you know, we see, so you're a leader positive. So it's a way with so. Yeah, exactly.

But you work there on. I work there too. I am to say that I'm a

a work in progression constant. It can be difficult for the people who partage my everyday, you know,

that I change and that I'm always, not to be the major, not to be the well, yeah, but,

I'd say, not be the major in something in something specific, but I want to

be transformed I think that be able, you know, I think, the parkour human, we're not

supposed to rest the same person all the same, we're supposed to have an evolution. some of this evolution

that, it's a problem nuclear air, sometimes it's it's been a lot of but, you know,

I'm trying to, it's so, I'm trying to to me transform for to become a person,

for, for, for, you know, and the passions in a life, it's change, our interests

sometimes, we're doing we make on a different, you I'm going to be open to that.

But you're to listen. You know, I'm going to to have posed to question that for being

with me I do. And that it's complex I'm doing a lot of things

um um in first I'm I'm I'm I'm

move I'm the buchot in life yes I've been an athlete of

high but I know I'm come how for me just the

movement of the body is important to assimil the

things that I learn and assimil also my emotions, to be to live

my emotions, it's a much by the movement of the body. And it's often the

march, for me, because the Velo, I'm renau with the vehicle,

I'm really really fared of me to have that's part of me. But it's not necessarily

that. If I had been the if I had a sport to choose for the

rest of my days, it would probably the march, the march in forest, the hiking,

because that I reconnected a lot. So for to be with me, I do

move and I'm to listen, but I do say that I'm to hear it's still

difficult for me. I'm feel I'm very often. The sentiment

of culpability is present all the time. By a what? And it's

not a a, in fact, by who it's by a rapport to me, but it's for these

affairs completely stupid, you see, and again there, not for to return again, but, you know,

I'm still, totally felt all my life, perhaps a cause of what I've seen, and because of what I

had been in a relation toxic for a lot, that that I'm that, that so, a day,

where is that, I'm, you know, tomorrow, you know, tomorrow, like, the time, I'm going to

go to go to It's just like that. There's nothing to... I arrive the landmine. I have an impreview. I don't have a lot. I'm sorry to not

be going to go to go to work. But it's, it's not my work now. You know, I mean, I'd say, I'd gain't not in force

physical. I've decided to go to go because I had two hours in my hour and he announced beau, and, you know,

I'd go all to do that for my pleasure. And, sometimes I listen a podcast, sometimes I don't listen

of the music. But there, because I do it So, that's my source, we'd say that for me feel able

if a other example, the next or, you know, I see not, I go to the restaurant,

I'm going to say, well, I'm going, I'm trying, I'm trying to because where,

there, I'm going to go to a restaurant, I'm there's always, I'm to be able

to what's I'm trying, I'm going to be a verse of a wine a night, because

I'm in bonn company, I'm you know, and I'm You'd say, ah, this night, you know, I'd like,

and then I decided to bring a ver of wine and, you know, the ver of wine there will be my source of culpability. We'd say that it's a

culpable in something in my journey, but I don't know what it's and that I want debarce,

but it's an elave the liberty. It's, it's a liberty of all, and I'll see that it's a view pattern.

It's these menot that pertain to pass that I train in my life at 44 and then I'm saying,

John, you can't do you not feel like to be able to be able to get to be you know,

you've got an entranor very young and this trainer that you have with him.

You're even married in the United it it was facilitated the

part the part of for having a person to it was to have

to have the restaurant that I had decided to Even you were married with this person but I'll say you've been with him

in the same house and for the people of the exterior you're just a couple but in which you're not, it's like you have not

decided in fact that's it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all it's been imposed

you know, you know, you know, you know, but it's not it had not been a relationship

for you. No, and in fact, and even if we if we look the experience sexual,

he count not. I've decided To start at zero, we feel I've decided that the first I've had a

relationship with someone I was 25 with my child and not 15 and not 15 I decided that that

it wasn't not count not no more but you have been how you it's on in time

in time real in time real we can say 10 10 years yeah of 15

to 25 When, like, it was the crux of what I'm going to happen? Because when you talk to your menace of your past, you remand it's a 10 years. Yes, it's not before. It's these 10 years. So, when you say, for it's good with me, you know, it's just because I'm culpabilize,

because he, what we understand, especially in the casseur, is that you're culpabilized all the time. Peu import what you do, it's never the good affair. Exactly. It's never the good affair. and it's never to

Yeah, it's there's not there's not there's not there's not there's I'm not I'm in fact

I'm back because I'm I'm really really nerd on the books, I read I'm

and it's an issue that I'm so there there was a discussion with Chloe

of Lom and other author and she she has said the title of a book

that I do me procuring he is out of impression in this moment I'm in the case I'm trying to

try to see to be cede is not consenting and that it's been to make

me to share and I'm said it's that that's that in almost in this period

I said it. It was not a consentment that I said but I

said because I had said for survive and

so made think of that, it's a that's quite, but it's

kind of to say that's going to say that's never your choice. But when you talk about the marriage

just like, I said, I said for that also. And your family, you know, that's

also in your story, it's this great solitude, you're sole, you're sole

with the secret, because you when you competition, you know, that you have played

the EPO, but you you have not the choice to be to be alone also with that you partage

not quite not much with this man that at part the competition where we see,

we say, we're saying, we're still with what you see, because you do it's never to

person. No, as so. So, when you're there's a thing that. It's a

tombo. But you where during that time that? How do you it's,

how do you How are you, how do you, how do you know, because I, you know, I'm wondering how, you know, physically there are, do you know, there's there to be, you know, to survive, you know, there's got to have

some of, where you were with you the same? My God, I, I pleaded often. I'd love, sometimes, I had these crises of panic. You, I'd call my parents,

I'd have, in a cabin telephonic, I'd call my parents, and, like, I'd, you know, not nothing to what's

what's what's what's what's I'm in my real so I'm I'm

fatigued you know the entranement I'm my parents he said Genevieve Revin

at the house it's not great the sport you're super intelligent

you're having you know and and my part he said sometimes

no where you you're in the world Geneviv you you're

going to come to come where is you do you want to

you want to you come you an avion, and I said, no, no, I wanted just you know, because I'm ennui, and it's

because I'm ennui, and it's true. But, you know, it's because I wanted to be able to fight, and I was afraid. But that, I was not capable to say, because, well, for me to make the people in context, you know,

I mean, I said, if you do it, if you're if you revels that, I will tell you, and then after that, I'm going to suicide it, it's not, because, I'm all fucking

my life for you, but I'm, you know, and the violence it was really vivant in my life,

that it's that's sort of that's that's sort of that's not, it's not, it's not

bad, the violence like I'm not too don't know to be, like the things that

it's, it's more minor than that but it's kind of the violence physical that I'm

saying, it's can be very that's possible. Oh, you know, you know, I think,

I think, I'm in certain times that after me having made, I don't know if I'm able

to survive. And, To respond really to your question, the business to survive it's so prenant

we're trying I'm trying to I'm in case I'm I'm trying to me to try to me to pass to the

next hour to the next day that finally it that's all it's just occupied to try to survive

so how how you view that then eventually you feel in I'm in life I'm in life when I survived

it was my motive I'm okay I've passed another day okay I've passed a week

there's something there's something there's a there was just there was just of good moment thanks to sport

thanks to victory to my co-equipier who were content to my commanditers to public

who was content that I think that I I'd because you have a world

exterior. I had a world exterior that was extremely restrained. Restrain but the

people were you recognize you, you had a reconnaissance at the exterior

that was short and and person could be sure, you could get to you got to

your course you're reconned in your car I was in the magazine

I had a great porte and you I'm always that

as my I mean, I wanted to make a difference. Why I've decided, why I've chosen the sport, I don't know, but, you know, I mean, when I decided that I wanted to be champion of the world and that I wanted continue there, I'm saying, if I could

give a little of support to people, to believe in them, you know, to gain a bit enver-contre-contre-tuce, and to make these bell performances for that you know, a Quebecoise who's a, you know, international, and all that, if the people can't be able to say, wow, you know, if I was capable,

maybe that I also in my life I'm capable but it's that I'm allumed so in my

malchance or in all the traumats that I've in the violence inou that I've used

just enough of this of this experience positive that's a little

a little a little little a little bit of someone to say oh my

my dear thank thank thank me have made that

that it for to guard the flame to It's all right. So we can

understand why you culpabilize even for these little things. But so it so it's not

when you're at some you're not completely liid. You're like a little saboteur

at the door to that's a place. Yeah, but you see that I think

Mark Claude that at that again a once super honest with me with me

on my first my reconstruction to date it's to learn to learn

to learn without my trainer. But there, I'd like that pass to

the second level, to learn to live with Genevieve that's there, Genevieve

that now has these tools, you know, he has a new to do you

do you have but that with the denonciation I'm found, and that

I'm already said before that, you know, before to have the

violence sexual that I I've been I made, I had construed a box around me

that had maybe a piece of my even not a centimette of space to grow because I

was still because I was still a secret that and there I'm found that he was

in the adolescence that in this period of my life and I'm

I've I've been after it's been three years in 22 I'm I've done

that it has been super well accepted by the by the other

that finally I'm not that I'm that I'm I'm you know, I'm a person

a part entire, but that the verbalized before the world not the

world entire but you like the people who know it's like it's like

it's like it's like it's it's like it but it to learn to live

without this platform that it's another it's an another

Apprenticesage. So, now it's three years, the biography saw, I'm going

to learn to live with there, well, there's, there's no secret, there's no

the platform. The platform has sote sootable so the culpability, you can't

put it in your because you're comfortable with to feel that's that's

a frame now. So, it's an apprenticeship that I'm trying to do,

it's, that it will take the time that it will take, it's been it's been it's my relation

toxic, you eventually. I think that your story, I'm sure that there's many of the people who

listen to and that's that you can't be to start physically of this relation, you can

denoncer, but the time to be, it's, it's been the time to be able to you know,

you say, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know how it's, but it's

a reflex that you, we, we, we, we, to culpabilized on all

what you did, you know, you're doing your own you know, you're observing all the time

you know, when you see with the person who has a authority on you know, as well

personal and professional and what what you did in your life, it was also your authority.

You know, you have not an place to be not to be able and then

eventually with the subptions opage I'm all you I'm observed

everywhere with all you had had controlled Oh, but that, I said, when you know, when we read your story and we'll revoir, you know, you know, you...

But I don't know. But I mean, well, you need, because, well, there's plenty of things there in there. But it's not your decision, no more, to bring the PO that's, that you had more of oxygen in your sense, so you'd become more performant. Yeah, we'd recuperate more, all that. So, there had, there were, there's a advantage.

I mean to me, it's perhaps a default of language, but we'd say that when I talk to me, in this moment I say on like if I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm

like I'm recuperate plus it's like well yeah we're recuperate plus in the case it's all

but it's because you know it's yeah it's like oh but I understand it's that you you talk

to talk to you talk to I think that I'm not yeah I'm not no no absolutely there's like

there's like together together we're we're like maybe you know maybe you're maybe

in the sense that a moment of a moment of the I think we're refusionate you're

refusionate but it's sain to talk to talk to talk about the level of

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What is your more complex? And at In which moment have you do to be courageous?

Well, I would respond to all the questions. The which will me

put the most to the challenge that is a bit more more

more to be a moment to be courageous. So, that's so it's

so it I think. My more complex or the sense that I give on the

word liberty. I think I'm going with liberty. Because it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's a change but it comes to my first

love who is, well, we're going to return when I was when I was

little, I tripped on the film Supergirl and what I am in the film that in plus

she was a heroine and that she'd save the world and she would be

and that she'd and she would be and vollie for me I think for

many people for many people, it's kind of of a freedom, is there

is something more than a little than where is he who is he goes to where is

what he these raves where I'm going, and that's genial, I don't know, that I'm able to dream to that. Then, I'm coming in the Velo, and what's what I made in first, there was, that, of liberty. Because in Velo, you enfurge

your vehicle, you part, you're kind of a momentum, you've got to come back, in one hour, you're able to cover a lot of terrain, you know, in Cours A Pee, I like the course at Pee also, I'm a practice a lot, but in one hour, you know,

you'll be able to cover a radius of six to 10 kilometers a little bit plus if you course often if you're in form

because a vehicle you can go to get in a hour to 30 kilometers the pro

you can't much more than that but you it's it's a sentiment of liberty

that for to return to what we said a few minutes

my liberty was brimed during very long my liberty

was calculated and now now now to Retroved

the liberty What is that's the liberty for me it has

changed much the liberty is to be able to be able to

live in entire it's to be to be to be able to

put my my cicatris at the view of all in

entire to to see to everything I think

when when I when I when I'm when I'm when I I'm

I'm free when I I'm honest with the other and that I don't

because I mean or that I know there are certain things that are difficult

to say again once I'm I'm promise to say the

bad and to say the more don't don't don't because

we know that it can't I'm I'm I'm trying to

get to I'm We don't know You know, the life She, she, she,

she, I'm telling a little bit of regret on the other to not have to have said to someone

I'm, to have said to someone I'm excused, to not have been a risk in willing, you know,

it's, you know, it's, it's, things, where I'm not so, you know,

what you're saying, what you've been to say, it's been saying, I'm so, I'm so,

I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I've retened for long time that I try to say I'm even if I'm mad at least

even if it's maybe it's a lot of a little bit mal-al-a-laise but for me that's a form of liberty

and to learn to and to learn to and to say yes, me let's the opportunity to have

good in my life to say to say to say yes to because that it comes to get

one of my more of my more complex I'm I'm all a bit like an imposter

in what with this, we're going to take this one. Ah, yeah, you're saying an imposter? Yeah. And I see

not, I don't know, I don't necessarily where it comes, but I'm kind of an idea because when I was too

little, you had not this complex that, I was parted, and I was I was going to my

own my proper reglement, you know, I did you live, so long your

probably right right exactly. Yeah, well, exactly. And, but,

but, in several things. When I when I wrote my autobiography, I said,

I said, my God, I never had ever had an education in literature, I never written in my

life really something, it's going to be good, is that I have my place? When I'm

invited in the great projects, you know, I'm just I'm always I'm all right,

but I'm even in the sport when I gained, I'm I said, ah, is it

really my place? Is it what I merit this? So, this sentiment

that to be an imposter in my proper life is present. So,

liberty and to me defair to that to think, I can relate that

now to learn to live without my entrainer and to learn to live

with my proper quality now and to have confidence

in me. you know, to have confidence in and so, I'm going to reliant that's related

in the life also. In English, we say confidence needs evidence. So, for having

confidence, it's kind of in our experience, a certain, it would what,

the word French, evidence. Well, it's as that's like, you know, to be proved,

yeah, it's so. So, you know, so, you know, so, you know, when you

I say no to all, you have never these proof that. So, go to get in

a position where is I'm going grandir my confidence in me because now I'm

the proof. Well, yeah, in the exercise, you know, you have exercised

and it says, it's because it could be tradue by these evidences, but the

evidence in the sense to the of the having done, and it

has not been And, you know, and we're often again, it's a Dicton of sport, but that's, that's, that we can live very well in the

life professional and personal and all that, you know, it's good to have a view that is not so that finally

when you're saying, okay, I'm going to try, that you'll not, it's not, it's not

that the view that you don't, so a stretch just as great, to take to to,

that you can and it's that you're going to grandir that you're a chance of a chance of

but that's just a bit out of your zone of your and that to be able to be able to

do that, then you turn a new place in your confidence, in your life

and then your your ball of nege has been a bit more gross

but now the next risk that I will take he's

still a little more grand he can might Well, if I, you know, I calculate my so how it's going to be capable

to me round. And it's to take these paths that are just as a strong for being a reinforcement positive, but

in being all the time a little bit a per rand. And that's something that I see, in the athletes, we have the chance

to be able, to be able to be able to be able to be able to be to, for to be, for to make,

it's, it can't do you, it's important, a little a week we have some time, we have

some time, you know, there's an trainment that you look on the and you do, it's just

going to be difficult today. But when we're like passing an exam at the school

that's prepared, you've got your note, you're like yes, I've used. But, you

know, when you pass to your life athletic, that you had had that had some,

that you have some that you have some kind of quite fairly in your life, when you

come in a life professional or is that your car is terminated, and you start a, you

start a other pen of your career, of your personality, we've got in our life. You know, we've put

this facility that, to go to get a validation. We have not no, we're not so the

doubt is install. The doubt and, you know, I think, I've had been a difficult to

do that but when I catched, when I've understood, when I'm that for me feel

in my life, it had that I continue to do things that I'm a little

a little bit a bit more and who would be to get to this sentiment that I know that

that I'm a bit that's a bit too too long but just to say for that I

can be able to do it when I started to apply that in my life

well, I've started to that I'm in my reconstruction psychological or in

the risks that I'm in my life professional Well, there, the train is embarked. And I think that it's something that the athletes,

we have had a gross entrainment. On that, we've finished our career with plenty of quality, but we have not person for us. Well, it's what I've heard of, you know,

of the other athletes. After, we're like to let's it and it's like, because an athlete it's, it's, the same, the training, the, the

training, is what you you know, you're out, you know, all you get to get to the performance. Is it difficult

to make the performance to go to when we're when we're when we're in the competition?

Because you have not the choice to be performing when you're in competition. Yes, I,

yeah, I'm going to say that I'm questioned much on if it's me who

wanted really really win. You know, I have a quote very competitive but

it's competitive with myself, I've gained the majority of my competitions by the because I had

scared of my trainer, because I had to be afraid to me far because when I'd not, I'd

make sure, you know, I'm trying to see, you know, I'm doing that, I'm doing that, you know,

it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's something that's something that's something

that's, you know, I mean, it's, you know, it's true, you've lived that's, you've experienced,

it's just to you know, I've seen, you know, I've read your story, but there, you know, to you know, it's like, it's, I'm into it, you know, it's, I mean, the pressure that you have. But, yeah, yeah, and, you know, and, you know, de facto, you know, to be

certain that the end up, you know, and, you know, it's my life, and, you know, I'm reading, and I'm still, and I'm still, hey, the heroine, is she and she's on sort? But, yeah, Genevier, it's on sor, it's you. you know, but to revene to what we're

talking about, I think I gained because I had but you said that it's not that you gained not. The performance.

It's that the performance it wasn't not to you. No, exactly and then now in my life I'm

in my life, I'm can't that I'm extremely performant but you it's in my routine, it's in the

things that it's in the goodveillance it's in the positiveism now but you he gained

a course of a Velo, even, you return to my reasons personal, but when I returned to

the competition, I, if we're a man, I'm trying to pass the line in front of me, I'm like,

I'm going to I'm, I'm much more the adventure personal that that I'm that I'm but it's

maybe time, you, it's probably because I've been because I'm very much I've been that, I've got to get

to this victory that, but you know, when I read, when I read, when I read, when what I want

to accomplish with that. For me the book, it's not the it's the

debut of the life of Geneval Jansson. I'm I'm remember when

I decided to be champion the world before the violence, before the

drug, before all, it was the sentiment that I wanted I wanted

to be champion of the world I'd feel that so much it

so I'm excited really this project that and when I

decided to write the book it's the the sole thing in

my life at date that I have seen as far than I'm going to be the world.

You know, what I want to do the good that I want to do you have to make

the discussion on the space inciscuitary all that so it was, so so I

found that. And in time it has made fear. Because when I

decided to be champion of the world, I was I'm all entoured, and I'm I'm talking to someone who has

put this to be able to all the misery of my life in fact, all what's what I'm going to happen to

my life of my ambition to become champion of the world in because I found the mayo

arcantial in cyclism the champion of the world on each year the year, the vinker

has a mayo black with these lines of different colors of five colors different,

who rappel not quite the Anno-Olympic and we it's a lot of the season next year,

I think it's when I'm the same feeling with my book, I'm like, my God June,

is there something of something that will be to get to do that you will revive

again the same but there there's value that I mean, you know, that I'm

saying, you, your entourage is different you, do you, make confidence, make confidence to your

influence at your entourage. Yes, I had an entourage. Because you had, like, not an entourage. No, I had one person.

Is that the other would have that's going to something? Yes. Yes, and I can't not allow it

because it was these times different, the sport san, securitare, some organisms like sportite, it didn't exist

not, the movement Me Too, it didn't not, but when I decided to, well,

to denounce the emplear of the abu in 20-22, I had had been to see and who

me we said, Genevieve, we know what's what's going to we're doing, we're doing, but we never never really

because you gained. And we had a lot of, when you're saying something, or in trying to denounce

to the authorities that it can't be able to gain. And the last testimony that I have used

like that, at the end of year to celebrate my fight and the launchment and my parkour of

of Fama, I've decided to part of where I live at St. Lazare and to descend to New York City

in a Velo. All right, it's pretty 750 kilometers, so I'm going to St. Lazar

the Monday morning at 3 hours of morning, and I'm at 10 hours, the Wednesday,

I'm running the night, I've been a time, and during my voyage, I've been

during my crevasion, and where's I was had a magazine of there was a magazine of

a car, and the proprietor me know, because he was organizer of course in the past, and the

first thing he said, is, is your name, is your name, is he said, yes, we, we're coming to talk, and he said, in front of our discussion, I want just to say that I'm excused. I said, like, you're like, you're like, excuse, he said, yes, because in the time, I've seen through your career, and the first time that you've been

done to do you find my course, at New Hampshire, you had to have 16 years, you could have been with the women and I've seen, and I've seen, and I've seen, and after, I've seen the progression, and I never really did.

Is that you pardon? And I was like, well, let's come, well, let's it's been me toucher.

And, you know, I'm not sent to get immediately because there, I wanted just to have

reparting my baduson and I wanted to get rid of 4060 kilometers,

and, it's not great, it's not so I'm still, so, yeah,

the people, the people, so, yeah, my, my, my, my little

care of children, he thinks, and it's, it's, it's, I'd like to

me to get more than to get to a 16, 17, 18, 18, someone,

someone me sort of there, because my , my lunette were so, I didn't,

you know, that's what he'd know, I'm at the same, I'm not, you know,

but you didn't, you know, I'm not my life at this age that, I thought,

that's normal, I thought like it was my little spin and that's because this

this time that's a lot of you know, so when you know, when you said, you know,

he'd have been in a lot of authority. Yeah, he'd be your power

decisional. He'd be like a form of judgment at a quite, you know,

when you decide more when you do you do it for to bring

more to make possible to avoid the it's it's an annihi

and that it's that it has made in the silence for because

I was You know, I was like, Genevieve, why is you know that you know that's not good, you know that's

you know that you do you know you're not, you know, your end up their other, you know, it's a

good person, why you're not capable to save? Why are you not as far to be able to and that

I thought that's to not have the courage to me sove so that has made

that I'm not talked for extremely long time because I'm said, you're full

you're a problem of the mental, there's a something of not good with you why you

don't do that, why you're that's what the decliques or you it said it'll say

it will it will be over night while I'm during that I was I was reweigh

a morning and I'm like that it's finished but when after my career

I had always always I've always never to have a restaurant so

I a restaurant at Phoenix to degeny to dinner and I started to work in the restaurant and I was found out of my people

he'd know they're zero of my pasty, I'd serve their coffee and their ze the morning,

he was content to me see, I discovered that I had some talent and there there were

there were the clients who came in the restaurant that, you know, I thought of my good,

the people I'm attired and I'm imagine in another relation with this guy that came

on bar that I think beautiful, you know, that I'm seeing, you know, and I'm

sure of course if I had been in the life that I'm with my trainer who

that's all that's that's that's there's not there's there's a moment

like, ah, I'm I'm fed that I think, I thought, more a

more than, you know, it's not arrived to be a bomb atomic, atomic, I'm

I'm sure, and it's like, it's already that's today, it's saved.

And you're never returned. I've never returned. So, so, it's that, it was,

it was, without really to believe to the authority divine, I think I, I,

I'm a certain destiny, I'm in charge of my destiny, but, you know,

there's certain circumstances, the life, you're to make, it's

when you got out of this house, it's to say, that there,

you have a world of because you're never really, and it's

a world exterior that it It was not the cyclist, it was not the champion. That, that it had made a great difference. It was in the real world.

It was not in the world, because the world of cyclist is a world firmed also. It's a world where you know you, you know, you're having in the world

liberal, and it's not been long that you had been in the world of liberal you, you've decided to start. Yeah, it's like

it's like, there, it's like, it's not pretty much after that that's, it's arrived instantaneously. Are you fired

of this Genevieve that after this decision that, this journey that, it's the thing at a date the most

difficult that I've made, and it's to be the most fier, it's to me to make

to say, and I'm saying, I want to keep the surprise for the people who are

going to read the but it, but it's really almost a scene of film,

you know, I'm never not, Marklau that I can't to do,

and the fashion that's happened, you, After, after being saved, I thought that my life, the landmine, she'll be different.

But it's not that. You know, it's, it's difficult. My years, more difficult, are more difficult, are when I was saved of my abuser. Because, ve, we, we,

not, the abuse now, was my identity, even if it was super difficult to live in the violence, I knew that I were able to survive.

The decisions were taken by he, so I had not a surprise. I had no quality human, I don't say, I'm not

not saying quality human, but you, I had never had never of decision of my life, in

fact, because I have my parents who when we're when we're when we're when it's

super sign, that. And then after that, I'm after that I'm 25 years, I'm never

pretty of decision alone. Yes, I decided to what I made the the morning

for my day, but, you know, it's not, and then I'm in a

world where is that it's me that's my decision, I'm afraid so there's there's been

a lot of difficulty after that, but this moment that, this day, that,

for those that are to read your book, when we get to that we're doing,

it's good, it's it's quite quickly in the when it when it when it's

it's it's oh, okay we're we're we're it's like, we're

we're going a little adventure, we know, we're like Fierre to you, it's like

a lector, electricist. Niveive you will me give me three cards. The number Rue

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Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. How come to to start to the impris? Is that you have Regret Is that you have already

at your limit of your physical or psychological? Okay, that I think that I can't even

responded So, is that I have been I'm already at my limits physical and

psychological? No. And it's not because I don't because I think

that at all the times where is I think to me to be

at the limit we're We have all the time a little bit more. We have

all the time and it's not that I don't that I think that I think in my life

personal and I'm sportive your your co- co-te guerri

Yeah but you know and that I think that's good for each

human we're never at we're never at because our

limit is when when we touch that we're capable to renivele the bar,

the equilibrium and it's all the time a equilibrium that's it's sure that the bar mount,

the bar descends, it's absolutely normal in the life, but I never

never, is what I never, is I have never, is I don't, because I'm

doing the question, and I see, I see, I see, I see, I'm not, but at that

there's there's always a solution even if this solution has been difficult or that I

saw it I didn't not the forest I was just I was just the arbor

in front of my eyes and it it's it becomes also in time

really pleasant to be really to be to be to want to know

to know what's what we can accomplish even of a level

psychological for me. And that I got used the chance when I met my first friend

Greg, that's the first woman in fact that I had the first person

woman or woman that he had a lot of he had a lot of he had

there was there things that he was he didn't be sure and he wanted

to understand that norseur who wanted to understand this limit

that who wanted to what what is and that's going creused

in his norseur in opening the armor to zubliettes in regarding the skeletons

who repossed their limit and that I was like wow me also I'm also I've

lived that and that he's made something of beautiful and that it's that I'm

attire as that I'm attired by the noor yes I think

that's something in me that I appreciate I'm on many of of things. But I've

seen as it's a part also a great liberty the limit to know where is different

face. Different face. You're also we're also we're all all we're all human is an animal is an

spiritual after that we're doing we all we have all that's it's already in us

and at moment to have explored that advantage also this aspect of your

spirituality yeah yeah I'm I've always had a very young age a sensation that had

something that was something that's I'm going to do you, but is that I believe to Catholicism, no,

I don't know what the people are not going to not go to not, but I'm there's always

there's a there's there's that that I had when I had when I were all

young that I didn't not able to nom me to explore that. And, yes, for

me, eventually, in my life, it's been the church and the Catholicism, not because I wanted to me to get to them, but I

saw found out that to explore that, I'd explore the God that I thought that was the church that was made to

Rusty, who made a very great good, Rusty me made to his retreat of group,

the retreat of group were made to devoled my violer for the first before a group I've been accepted this acceptation

that made to take to bring confidence a little more more than I'm saying I'm saying is this energy that that I felt

it was really just a field conductor around all the whole all the long of my life that I'm permit to

me develop but what what I think I'm far at you you're still in quest you're not

you're not you're not I'm going to I'm sorry this guy he's there me interpels he's seen, and he

he's recognized something in you're talking, the first time that you know, he's something else between you two

yeah, not of spiritual, not something not something of and you decide to pursue, but you're alone,

in me, that I'm, that I'm sure that I'm sure, I'm sure, that's you decide to do it, it's not

someone who said, you'd say, you'd say, and I'm to be there, you go and you go and

you're talking, you decide to pursue, you're in this group where you to devole, but it's your choice to

it's like you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, that's, that's,

that's, also, on the right. There's there's something in to be in fact, that's sure that

goes with where is where you're in your reconstruction, but you're a great force interior.

Yes. You do you do you, you're doing confidence. Yes, I'm I'm in

and at the beginning, after, you, after I'm be saved, I'm isolated because I wanted not be influenced

by person. Even if it it was a goodveillance, I wanted advice to my parents to the other

person because I said, I had scared, I'd out of a relation that was totally controlled,

that I'm saying, is I'm trying to try, yeah, a plenty of things, and I'm

transformed to a person in a person and car that, you that it's not me that's

not I decide. So, I think the violence and the abuse that I've

been my renfirm and I have used that's I'm used to be able to when I'm

out of that I wanted to see, I wanted me re-centry and I'm not found that all right,

I've tried to make pleasure to the other also for long time but now I'm in now I'm

sure I'm someone who I'm not I'm not the permission like I'm like I'm

for a man you're in couple with me or when we're my my friend or my parents

I think that's going to be difficult to live because of sometimes I'm like, well I'm

going to do that. So, so you don't know the permission. No, no,

I'm more, I'm maybe, maybe to make reprimanded after there's

there's not that I'm in my life adult, you know, I accept not that not so

I'm not but, yeah, I think that I'm this force interior there I don't

of where she is not with that. Is that, it's sure that I've developed and I've entertained over the years

and often it's always because I have not, I have not other choice I'm not I'm put

to the corner and then shit, I had no the choice but yeah so the limits in fact

I hope I ever never they try because it's beautiful it's beautiful it's be it's both

think we're oh well finally it's and it's it's and it's to be able, you know, is that I'm going to

when you did you say, when you had to make you know, how you're at the entire, because now you're in in quest of authenticity,

it's certainly also in with this grand quest of authenticity, of reality, in line with what you've not put to do?

How we see in the interior, when you're pretty in plenty of affairs? It's said you're obliged

to mention on something that you've not it's not, you know, it's not something that you assume, how you're, how you're at, because I saw in

conference of press, or with Alan Graveld, that's, you know, these interviews very serried, he is face-a-face with you, and you're

with the plus of conviction possible, but what you say, it's false, can't, well, I'm,

I'm, I'm completely dissociated. It's that the dissociation. I, I, I, I've,

I, you know, with my research of neuroscience and all that, that's that there have

many people who have a coupure like I have seen that also that we have been

two person and that we do a role so I felt really that

I'm I'm a transger to me and I'm to my same

to my values and to the family that I that I see

that I I want to be uncomfortable. I'm detestate. I'm detestate. But in

the same time, for being able to be able to live a other day and have the

possibility a day to me to me to get, it's like I know that

I had that I had to pass over to that and that I

had to do that more longer a more more more

and it's that with the recule, that I'd say, oh, wow, I,

I'd seem I'd have been not because the more long time in the

role that, you know, to 15 to 25 years, it's a period at the

level of neuroscience, at the level of the world, which is extremely

important. We create a new new connection, not when when we are young

like, to zero to five, six years, but that we're established our patterns,

that we all the, our our, our, And I, during this period that, you

I've been I'm trying to I'm afraid to be able to what's in my brain, and that I'm trying to

to re-construed to do disconnecting these fill that and get connected to my fashion. But to

respond to your question, I see that, I felt that I felt that I would be in a life,

it's like if I remember a film and that I show a role in a film, I'd

you're not your story, you're not your story, you're talking a story, like a

comedian. That's that's a role, it's good, you know, it's a other, you,

you know, you've never thought, you know, I think, I've had very difficult, or is it , you know,

there's a , you know, there's a period, even when I mean, when I mean, I was saved

to him, that I'd live in my house of Phoenix, I'd be able to, I'd be never suicid, you, I'd ever

had never had a plan of suicide because I don't I love the life I don't know if I'm

really sure I'm really much more by etincal or by etoile filante than

than a journalier it's a point to be a point to be a point to get there's always there's always

a mal to live and that I'm accepted and I see I live well with that

it's correct but um but so I'm so I'm so I'm their flame

to live. But there are a lot of when I was I'm reveye and I'm like, tomorrow I'm just not

me reveyey if it's not the fun if you're all right but it's not my choice.

But there it's sure that I'm in the talking about today I don't that's

because I have still I'm still I think I think finally I think I've been

made on the when I see in 2006 so that we're in 25

so it's like I'm 19 I think I'm really, you know, I'm 44 in the real life, my age physical, but I'm just like I'm just to be adult. And your book

LaCarsure, it's like a turn of life also. There's an after. Yeah, there's an après. Yeah, there's an after, and I think, in case, if there's something that you can rest, that's that I want to be that. That's what I live, there's an after, and that we're

also architect of this after that. Yeah, but it's your force, and it's there that you want to intervene. Yeah, it's not just to tell you the story, it's to give confidence in the prep. I feel like you've got to accompany the people there in. Yes, and you know, the progress psychological is too difficult to quantify because we don't,

we don't, we don't, we're not, we're not, we're talking to all our affairs, and we give us tools, but these utilities, we have not the chance to use to the moment where we we're in the same situation that

we've made a bit of an buffet an tsunami of anxiety and that we we're react differently

at the same situation. But, you, we're human, we want to be able to be voluntarily in this

situation that that that we had made capote before. So, so often,

in so we're not not account of our project psychological. So,

we said, hey, it's a time, it's a little, and it's a lot,

it's not, you know, it's long, it's so, and then a little of the

other things, we're in the situation that, and you're like, wow, I've grown finally,

finally. Fack, you, I'd like, encourage the people to goy to their

amours to get, to get really to be really to be in their in being accompanied,

by course, to bring these mini risk to get in these situations that they were in the past

for being able to be able to be able to be able to be able to and when we're not not changed

that we're still in the same because it's not quite because it's not quite there's

you're doing to continue to have to continue to continue to the car and the cart rose

my god it's a choice four if you're there's a there's four there's four

there's three you're So that, it depends. Sometimes with you, you know, you've had had been to abuse. I've got to have been to attention at this level. Yeah, I see.

With you're having, with you, there's more a question. Well, de which is your life intimate has it evolved with the time? Is it easy for

to express your desire? Preferer you seduire or to do you do seduire? We're at a landoo soft.

Yeah, it's soft compared to other podcasts that I've with your invite, oh, it's a total

good, I'll I'll Prefer to seduce Or do you To have seduir It would be Seduing

But I'm But I'm It's not All the time Sin Because Seduing For me

It comes It comes My Contetive So So, So, It's pretty

Sometimes Like like Like, a Defi And I'm Deficult

to me To be Situire I'm mal-a-laise. I don't play the game and I'd

like that to be the girl next door who who accepts the seduction that accept the

game of a guy to get to be to be like to be to be like to be really I'm not

I'm not that I'm super intense I'm at the start but maybe maybe

maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe it's what I'm saying what to be intense that?

Well you I mean I mean you know I'm going to say the real things all right I'll talk

to my default all right of my past all right I'm going to I'm going to ask you all the other

person, you know I'll let's not the mystery and that I'm there's been many of the

women and probably many of the women also who like the beginning it's mysterious we're

we're going we're talking so you devole I'm I'm I'm going to I'm going to

see I'm not you're not you're not you know it's because I know that I'm for the

good reason I've played a role for long time the people me may make for who

I didn't that I'm that you're that's what you think you're an impression it's a reaction yeah

it's saying hey there I'm I'm to say to say you're in your reaction I'm

I'm not I'm not I've been to do what you have to now now

while maybe he's he's not that you so So it can be very difficult

to be to be in a bit of yeah, exactly. But, you know, at that

it's it's not because the two guys that I have had in my life,

they've been of that they've been perfect. Vient time, Jen, so,

even you do you know, and you know, you're really you're really, you're really, you're really,

you're really, and you're in the performance, to say, that's like, maybe a bit,

you know, I'm I'm that for me it's like, it's like, It's that.

I want to be sure that I don't not on the person, but you know, that I

see, that I'm that I'm really, you know, I'm prove to me to me enough

for that he's he's him, you know, the relations of couple, it's not

that, you can't you can't chas someone or is you can not

you can't you can't, you can't, you know, I mean, if you you convince

someone that's the good person for it's not that you don't know in the sense

you're in the head but you're but say but do me, is that presentment

you're someone in your no I'm I'm so if you want

someone in your yeah yeah eventually but you know I think

I think I'm I've quit a man great on in May

23 because well I'm I'm in my way

that it didn't much it didn't even we're

even it was the good decision he merited a woman who would have been for what he wanted to

want to be I'm going to live something and I didn't know at the time that I had to write

a book and I'm in love if the person abet in New York City I go demenage

I'm very passionate I'm I am in entier also and I I'm

I'm I've done that if I had been in my life in the last year,

I'd probably not write my book. In writing my book, I'm

discovered many of things that I'm not still, I think that I

could be the partner that I desire to be for someone.

I had been to pass and I still to pass a period of my

life alone for well establish my base and to be able to

live the relationship of couple that I want and that I know that I'm

able to have so that yeah, I'm because I'm I'm,

I think, I'm, I think, I'm, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

especially with all the gross emotions that I feel in this moment, I feel

that difficult I'm I'm self. But I have these super friends,

you know, my ex My ex-Pole is still there, and, you know, it's my my best friend of guy, and I'm an other other friends

who's in an entire, and, you know, who I'm appue, and my friends and all of that. So, I'm not alone, I'm not so

like I was in the past, I'm entoured by the person merveeuse, but, you know, it's kind of different when you

have your who's there, so I'm sorry, I'm not trying to in this moment, I'm not trying, but not the point to me say,

I've been because I'm need of going to go to I'm with what I

have what I have to I'm there's a I'm there's a I'm not to say I'm

I'm in everybody I'm not I'm not need to that physical, sexual

yes I like that yeah I want to be there I'm not I'm not

I'm not sure because that it's I'm I'm I'm

I prefer attend for to be with the good person I go

with a guy that I love profoundly or you know I feel

that I feel like something for so so you know I'm not I'm not

I'm not say that the bad person I'd not tendry not even eventually

I think the circumstances of my view will make that I will find but it's

so you're you will you're you're you're when you when you

want to when you feel when you can't you've talked of

amit and we we We understand also that with the time you've developed these amissies feminines that you had more

in your life and the beauty of the sorority and you talk to Lynne Bessette and it's very touching I know about also

with Penelope McQuay at the radio you have made an interview together you and Lynn Bessette who was your enemy

in cyclism who was an compitist you were you were not amy when she she doubted

that you doped and then, and then, Lynn has kind of a voice, she talked, she said publicly, and then,

and then, she cried, and it's a blocker something to say, she's, she has, she,

she, has permise, I'm the time, you know, to say, I'm sorry, but I'm

impression that she had opened the door to be Genevieve Janson plenement.

Absolutely. The cado of generosity that Lynn me and immense. It's one of the more grand that I

never've ever because again once at this moment that, of my story, I had not reconcilied

100% with the Velo, I thought it was not my place. I wanted also

to you let see this place that because Lynn has enormously suffered of my

trainer also by ricochet, has Vecue of things that never had never

had ever had to live, the deceptions that she never had never

do live. I wanted not it to to live in

the life to live in her world, and Lynn, she's

a she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she's always, she, she, she, she, she, the proper limit

physical and psychological in the adventures sportive that she did,

and when she it has like given permission to return a little in the sport to me say

okay finally I'm a place it's a time in quite some years before we've seen

face-a-face and that we develop a certain amitia but you in a sense the book

would be not there if she she never if she she never a great sister

on the time we're kind of we have two great character we're very similar

in plenty of things. You're sanguine, it's... Yeah, we're sanguine, you know,

we're a background different, the passion different, we're doing on several things. She's made

a grand good, I'm also, you know, I've made a great good, we're

in this relationship. We, we, we've grown together during the year of competition that

we've passed together. Now, it's sure that, you, we're she's been she, she,

she has, she has an other plan of life that I approve, I don't even not I'm even not

I'm trying to go to look to look at in New York City, totally sole on Velo Rooled at

the night and all the because I'm taking a example I think I'd have said that

if I had not passed my years my years with Linn exactly in the past

recent she she she, she, you know, you've made the competition ensemble?

Yes, we've made a, one of a competition we've made the course Badlands

which is 750 kilometers of gravel in Spain we've made to make individual,

but we're in the same voyage and for to prepare to that we've had been

a lot during this year that I 've got I've learned of her

just by the way just by the way in his I'm in the

I'm made I'm made so much that I'm that I hope to be capable to give

to be eventually. I don't if I'm able to be capable but yeah,

it's a person who is exceptional with a heart that has no limit she's

really, she is super intelligent she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, because your end trainer, you have mounted one

contra, one, and the media also. And the media also. I don't want

because you're two champions and it's sure that's sure that's sure that's it's sure my own

my own there's always has been in it's so we're never known I'm still the regret

to say I'd have made that to know what we're maybe we're maybe we're

maybe it's super possible but but it's but there there's like there today but it's

there there today it's exactly that it's you know I'm we give

all the credit of the world because we we've got the past charged, we're not

many long time, we had plenty of ideas preconcue on who we had all left

that to go to we've got the courage to be and I think, I think

we're going to have things to get all our life,

we we're that we can be on the future that's the future that

all the future that But it's rare that we see two enemies and say, okay, what's we do with that? The two, we don't know our past. We don't know who we were.

We don't know who we're saying ensemble. What's we do with that? We decide to re-ecre the story. It's rare. So, you know, I think it's cool. We're badass, as well.

Yeah, I think that in the two case, it comes reconciled something in your life. Because she has not done for her She had been She'd have been

She'd be able to write She'd ever She'd be She'd be able to She'd be able to No, not I'd have I'd agree

Lin Bessette had 100% reason to be fashed and to M-Vloor So, she had not

She'd have For my bien, I'm And I'm You know, You'd have You'd have You'd have

To say And, I'm, I'm Tend't I'm not And I'm I'd be I'd be

I'd say No, I'd absolutely You're absolutely Right And the two You've been accepted. There was like

something to live and I think I think it's again a time the destiny but in the same time we recognize the athletes who

have not part of the defeat. You have the fed of the neus. Yeah. It's a beautiful.

It's a great amitia. The question on the reason is the first time that I let's a choice

so you choose one of the two. At which you have you repri hope of

an life that you represent the super hero in your life? I'll bring

reprispour in a life it's really when I'm saved when I'm

the super hero also it's a question but it's more abstract I'm

I'm never really I'm never really in a hero in my life but you

you're the little in super hero in your live it's supergirl

yeah absolutely it's cute that you watch that you watch

you have, you know, this morning that it's on saying how it's but you were animated back, there's finished

there's a there's a there's a that's not, that's, that's, tomorrow, tomorrow,

tomorrow, yeah, exactly. And, you know, I had not, I had not

to me to make, to be back to where is that I wanted to me save,

my life was more or more unstable, was stable in its chaos. Yeah, but you

had been able to recuperate. I think Geneviyev before you had been in a state of a lot of

time. You know, you know, you know, you know, after that confronted, you know,

in saying, because you had always a doubt on all of what you did, you have had

the test to pass the nervous I, you see, I can imagine, all the, all what you

did, you had not to have not to think, to think, to think, to think, to think,

how, you'd Pogne that? No. By which where you have put

that? And that, in fact, it's it's also in my life because at

all the times that I'm in the first time, in September 20, 24, I, I've left

my employ of an trainer-chefe because that I'm also, I'm still the coaching,

but it's not what I want to do my life, I want to be I'm really to be in

the post that I know, the position that in the world, it doesn't what?

What's you do you there? We're We're going to, we're going to... We'll let's see. But it's that, you know, I think

it will have to that I create this position of figure of prou, of guerier, who's, that's bad,

on the first line, for the women, for the victims of violence, for render the milieu of

sport, but not just the milieu of sport, you know, a milieu more, more sane,

for don't know the tools to survivors, for they they're they're

also they're not going to be over the world entire, but at least in their

proper life, there's not not a lot of these models like that, and it's

what I want to how I get it I'm any idea. But you have made,

first, your first, your t-shirt already announce something, you just

you've been to say your biography, it's the debut of that the debut of that's, it's an

announcement your colors, and you want, you to write other

chapter of this book that. But, you, I've left my employ because there

I'm trying because all the time to be able to because I had too really to make to pass

to travel to my writing to I'm going to my February, 24, May, February. I'm in

two. So, I had a period, I'm a four hour of morning,

before to go to work, I was, I went, I went, and I'm going to

Velo. I'd write it the night, you know, I clanched that it's natural,

it's my rhythm natural. It was pleasure to my morning on my computer, it was like

pleasure to go to go to go. But, that it was exused, I was

put in my job, and then I said, I'm a little bit of an bank, I'm a

little bit to be an trainer at time plain, I'm I'm taned of this life,

I'm, I'm a year, just at the short of my book, where is

I coach two-sword and I repose. I will have, I'll have not a

plan. And it's just about that because I wanted me to find and I know that I

had been so much so much charged in what I did that I had not a

time for to think and for to batire the future that I wanted a little

a little like that you know to do not a certain things to be

consacry on X which is important for your life. Yeah.

It's the same thing that I've done. So I've played the last year, yeah, I've had

worked with support aid, I've had been a socialization and education with Allison Forsyte

also, his company Generation Safe for the sport, but you know, in gross, I was like

retraited. I've pre a year of retreat for me to me prepare a lot. So,

yeah, the day where I'm sure, you're absolutely reason, in saying that's a period

that I had not the time to think, and there perhaps that I had a mini period where is

that I'm a little that the sounds have retombed and that I have made a morning

and I said, it's finished and I'm going to and it's a period of clarity that I

rarely had in my life and that it's been a bit of that I don't know

but it's like if again one time the good God or the force

me had me had I had talked and I had said, it's today that I'm saying there's a sport, I want to be the second Genevieve.

At the part of the viol, I've always been two people. I've had the person who had been abused and who played the role and that it's all englob also,

to tell you, and all that. And I'm made count, Mark Lodd, during all these years, I was there had the

Genevieve, who had curious, fonseo, who liked the school, you know, I'm forced

to arrest the school also. I wanted to learn her, but I didn't know

I'm able to be touched but you were just a little too long and it's so,

so that this morning that it was like, and even it's even if it's super

difficult after, I'd say that the first that I'm the first that I'm

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm there's there's impossible

that I in my life. It's impossible. Because that's when we have the

front is not luminous, it's the hope of a life of a year. You know, all you

were more. Exactly. It could like not be worse. Even if I had some the period

after I thought it's worse, because there I didn't know, I didn't have no

education, I had a secondar five, I had a power to come to come

because he had been not because he had been to come to give a chance. You know,

my friends would have been to make sure of a million of cyclism. I've been a treacheroise

there's like, I'm going to do you know, I'm going to where, I want to don't want to ask

me to find that I regretted almost my view past so I can not say that I

have used all right you're you're you're you're you're my friends

my friends would have been me because I'm too I'm the people

perceive differently. We had the champion and after that it's like it's like you're

this title to say, oh, it's she's she's she's dopeed, is she

is today to be the the perception that we're to do you? When you see where you're in

today, what's you think of this girl that that and that's the and that

how you how they unies these two there? I don't I don't I don't even

I'd ever I'd never I'd think he'd think he'd I'd never think that I'd ever

that I'd that I'm but you know it's beautiful because that it's not more more more than more

more than I'm saying who I'm who I'm at 50 years I can I can't do finally

I can create the person that I want in the paste the way the way the future

is to look the future is I'm I'm I'm transformed of someone who

was completely broken and abatted on the Genevieve who is there present in this moment

at 44 in 25 the change the changement is so that, well, finally, all,

it's possible. Everything, it's possible. I think, I think, the couloor that they had

to be pretty, it was... he was... He was mace, mince, mince, so co-lour.

We'd could never to never to talk to you, you, Jeanveveveve, and you're

Revenue in force, you know, you know, we're always the word resilience, he's very galvoded, but you're a resilient when we look at all. Yeah, but that, it's something that I want to let's something I want to let's see to people, it's by really going to fooier in my noorseur, to go, by the courage, you've been courageous, it's courageous, it's courageous to

go ahead, because it's quite to understand where my tor, maybe, maybe, maybe,

maybe, maybe to find what what's what I'm going to what I'm happened,

understand my febless, comprehend, all, I think, yeah, the courage to go out

creused, the courage to try to the aid that I'm to continue in this

processus that, you know, it's really by that, and I would be

surprised if it's really different for the other who want to transform it, it passes by a period

of mard in gravel, in Garnot because you're a victim but you're not victimized. I think

because you have always been a victim of this man but you're, you're, you've done

have made something. You're not rested his victim. I think it's a great

victory also to say, I'm not, I've been your victim and I'm not your victim. I'm

I'm here now. I'm going to be prisonier of nothing. Exactly. And what's

we can't you want to do you want to do you want to do things that make that make fear,

to continue to to go and to change in fact. I'm I'm going to get to receive a

new word I'm probably different. But I'm in a second I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm to pursue what's your It's a year, to help the people, to be there for them, you're an

example vivant, you know, Tantot, you said, it's a part of the evidence, we have the word in the

English, but it's what you're, it's a case, so we're here, so we have a example, so

we have a view after the abuse physical, abuse sexual, abuse, the other you're all,

you're all, you're doing, the end of, you're the point, you're the Thank you.

Thank you, Genevieve Janssen. It's a super, the fun. Thank you, Mark, Claude. Thank you, and we'll see to the next podcast. Thank you, everyone. This episode was presented by Karin Junkah,

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