Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #123 Maxence Garneau | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

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I've been to terminate Maxence Garno who is the invite of the year because

we've talked before that I have been time to make time to make sure

to make the I'm not grave. I'll do it after. And in the same time, I can already do you have my commenters. You'll see, it's a new encounter with MaxSance. We're talking with him. He has made, among other, the traitors. We've seen as if we're in cemeter. And there, presentment, we see, among, as Salue, Bonjour, and the chronicer.

So it's a guy that I've already done in an interview a couple of years that I think I'm that I'm very by his spontaneity

his creativity I'm an impression that's someone that we'll see a lot in the universe televisual perhaps also

radiophonic that's my wish and I was like I'm like I'm saying as a moment of a moment

I know I know I know to know you know so why we're not to know to know

to get to know and it and it has done a interview really tinted

of emotion I think that the testimony of Maxance will in fact a part of

an interview it's a great testimony where he talk of the difficulty to be

different when we're pretty and how we're percy how we feel we're not

a place but it's very powerful what he says I'm an impression that we're

an impression that we're And that perhaps that will it will make it for the parents

or even with the children, but it's really a open-to- your where there

a lot of emotion it's very very touching to it to it to learn and to

see also that's very so I have to get to an

part to the listen or to listen or to listen so I

just want to say place to make sense it's like if

the first to that I've had been young when I'm around 9, 10 years

that's like that we're saying that I I, I, I, I,

I, I, I, I, I, I wanted not, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I was, I'm, I'm, my most part,

it's, to be homosexual, because it's like, it's also it's like

if I like if I would give a lot of the intimidate I'm

I'm not of the I'm not in view of that. Open Tonka the reference

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point CA. As I talked to I'm really content to the first first time that it was during

the pandemic because I had a podcast that was called Two Fee in Quarantene which

was the prolongment of two fey as we could be in studio, I'd at the

house. And he had so he's so much I'm saying hey, I'm going

to know this guy that and to see that he's even he's even rendered

chronicer to say hello it's not right so so much Maxence

Garneau is welcome Maxence I'm so I'm glad to

there hello Marclode I'm I'm because you're really

someone that's really someone we're we're done by

Karene Vanance and we're in if we'd like celibriety with all your authenticity, your fresh air and all.

And there, you're to be more and more in demand where you do you say, are you humorist? Well, no, I'm not not even

but I'm amuse with the humor I think, you know, I've had some opportunity to do sign, to do stand-up

and it's something that it's something that I'm allume in which I believe I'd probably not say

that I'm humorist. Not that's what. You know, that's a good question. I'm the phone. But it's that I like

I'm, you know, we'd say in English, you know, I'm, I see not, you know, you know,

you know, I mean a fresh air, I think in French, we'd say that like that to say,

you know, a vent fresher, and you do you do do you have to do without necessarily

without necessarily to catalogue. Yeah, I'm not to me in a case, of my

life. But that's good. I think it's fun because it we're able to know it

to be able to you know, and you're you're doing yeah, but I'm a bit of me

to find out of a title. So often we go for creator of content because on the radio

social it's what I do you but in the same time we're that I would have

a title fortoe a little but maybe we're to find to open to open

your before you for those who you know for some in the public in

as far as you and not at a travel a series. It has started how this notion

of creator of content? In fact, during the pandemic, I had been to be at the

work, because I was working in TV. I've made that for eight years,

I've made my back in television, so I have a communication. And I

work in television, the pandemic arrives, March 2020, the production on

where I was I'd be arrested for a duration indetermined at this moment that we thought it's two weeks

finally it's it's tired, it's tired. I was just all in my three and a quarantine and I looked at

I'd like, I'd play with the dress and at a moment of the look of Céline in all the

house because I'm a great family of Céline so I'm made to reproduce the look of Cellin Zion

with what I had at the time I'm I had not not an abon on on the

social, but I'm quite decided to publish my reproductions on my for the pleasure, so I made the photo of what I had reproduced with the means of bar

and the photo original of Céline with that's a very very well, I'm I've got to do have to be able to get to be able to see.

We can't get on your social, we can even more see this year it was five so we're saying I've got to

I've got to but talk to the impact of that? Yes, I've made your podcast, in 2020,

thanks to that. But it's sure, I was partaged that on my social, without any time, and finally, it's a fact

jazer, and there's there's articles in many, in other sites at Potten to Quebec, but after that,

it's been in the Parimatch, Belgium. I've had an interview at Citi, at It Talk, in Canada

English, I'm going to Sucris Sallet, and I've made your podcast, it's, it's a

fact, it's a bit like that, the first articles, that we can find of me on the web

it's it's great to my love of Céline and you and you're and you're

because you're being in Cillin and it's it's beautiful to see because we felt that you

had to you're I think I never had ever I'm in my life I'm

I'm still when I when I started to work to work I'm I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm dissed to learn my little my cute of Cillin

with my apagne at Couch my drawers, my paper of aluminum. But it's that I had

a lot of pleasure there in a part of this moment that I've started a little to my music on the

social. It's like made like that the creation of content for me. But it's certain that

when I repri the job as researchist the contracts were enchaned and I

didn't to have not to have to consacry to my social that I

had during the lockdown of the pandemic. And then, in 2003, I was made

to participate to traitors. And at least I thought it was, we thought, we'd call to work for that

we'd be on TV. Especially on television TV, exactly. So, so, so,

the director of the casting Gabrielle, he said, well, maybe it's maybe it's going to

surprise, but today, I'm not for a post of a researchist,

I'm to tell, for if you're interested to participate. And I was like, well, why not?

So, I've made the tournage has been diffused at the springtime 2024, and then after that

the things have debulled and I'm quite content of all what what's what you think?

Why do you it's a deboled like that? Hey, my God, it's a good question.

Um, um, well, first time, I think it to be a good moment for me,

personally of my It would say it's like, it's like, I'm running there, I, I, I, I developed an expertise in TV, you know, I've said, I've developed a technique of work, I understand the media, I understand this domain, that, this milieu,

and then, and then, it's certain that there's something, the people, the people, it's been, you know, I think that I'm debarked, due law, by my personality, by your authenticity, yeah, monotenticity. You, at all right, it's a game, strategy.

I'm not a strategy. I'm there. I've been to see, I'm going to be all the emotions.

And I'm when, you, the people me say, but it's what, you're doing to do

strategy in part of time? I'm like, there's there's no, there's there's in the moment

present. And the people, you know, you're working on television, sometimes you

have you conscious of the camera, well, apart in confessional, that I was good

to respond because I know how reintegrate the question that we put in my response,

that I'm conscious of that, but if I'm in I'm not, I'm not capable to fake these emotions in the life. So, there

have any other game in time. I think it's for that we have to say, if you don't do you know, you know,

you're just a great emotive. But I'm really content to to be able to see five years, and for you

know what you know better more, because as we think we're doing to be more, when we're going to be

to see, we'll know who you're going to know more, I'm on seeing the impression. So, you're ready to open your job? Oh, my God. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, a game open. It's not a game open. I'll explain rapidly. You have the level

rare. These are questions that I could pose to all the number. We have to be general. Excuse me. The questions jones, we're going to be more specific. The questions

rose are more, in fact, are personal. It's all of the questions personal, but there are kind of a gradation in the colors. The question Spaceman is the question

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of sensuality sexuality the question opto-rezo is the question that question that's the question that

it's like if we don't depose the of all what's going to be able

to do you don't but the other is that we're a bell a revoir with this question

and you're a ton Joker If you find that it's go too long and sometimes it can maybe it's

okay, if I continue if there are there's like if you're there's like you make that on the table

and automatically I'm going to make a question so you will brace the questions you can do you can

do it on the table you can you can't you have to make this question that we're talking

and of these five and of these five that I'm never been my it's never

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Turns and conditions apply. Learn more at Amex.com. Hey, never. Okay. Well, no, it's not true. Two times it's been with my friends, but I'd like that at a moment of a chance. You know, in a time of the night, on a time of time

I'd like the idea to get the idea of line. So, a moment of a day, so I'd like to do. But if I was like to ask you. But I'm interested. Yes. I'll read the five questions,

Maxang, and you choose one, at which you will have to respond. And after, me, also, I'm going to choose one. Perfect.

So, the first question, which person has made a difference in your life? On what trait of character, have you have you done to work?

what importance accord you to regard of the other what is your more complex and what is your

rapport with the authority? Oh, my God. Well, what person has made a difference

in your life? We're trying to go for the regard of the other. Yeah,

what importance accords to look to the other? Because it's an question

that we post can sometimes, often. Because it has been

easy for me to be able to get to in the life. I've done long time

I'm going to when I'm when I'm when I'm trying to get to get to my oldisance to be like

all the other little guys and I'm wearing in Valcom in Belaboang to be to have

the little skater but it didn't not but I'm but I try it

really to enter in the moul in a certain At how

you're found that you didn't that you didn't For the long time, at the gartery,

I made exclure, you know, because I liked that, I'd like the barbie, the cuisine

Fisher Price, and it was not normal for a little guy. Is that she was normal in

your house? Well, yeah, I had two great-sor. We, we were, we were in

the love, the bienveillance, it's the overture. I've been by my mother, my nunu,

my grand-mer who had very very open, so in my my milieu familial, I'm

I was I was a bit normal. So, you know, you didn't know, that you had to live that. You were not prepared to that, because at you, to play with the puppies, it was not an issue, you know? You know, it's sure that, that, that, you know, there, can't even with my father, that my father, you, it's a chasseur, a peacher.

So, I felt like I'm not in these zones that they'd want to, in fact. But it's so. It's installed so rapidly very young I'm I'm not

I'm afraid not of a world in the world I'm not quite I'm not I'm not

I'm not a maternale I'm a guard of course I'm in four years because I had too

put me to be the so it's special it's special like you're you're young

but is you do you see how you're thinking? Well I was very

fragile my parents were separated I have three years, two and a three and a three years

and after that's also the morning I'd return at a guard of the I'd because I had

afraid we'd let's there because you're sure Because you were not in that

not because I was necessarily but yes but also because I had like a bit the

fear of the abandon after the separation of my parents and my mother

was my mother had been a medicine And she has made a lot of obstetric. So she

she parted often to have to be in the day and the night I'm afraid that you

don't know that they're not going to get to see that every every every

every time after that after that's sure also when you you're more fragile sensible

and you braille the little the kids don't know you're not

you know you're like you you're like you're so yeah I'm so yeah

I'm sure I'm Your interests not card not not plus. So I've had a

to find my place, to bring my place in the life and... Talk me about the

primary. The primary, the primary, I'm, I'd pleurred even a lot because,

the rentries schooler, I'm still the ball when I see the autobus jaunned

past because we say it I'm to come at when the school recommence

and just to enter in an school, the odor of an school, it's a ball of anxiety. It's important

that we're going to because there's the parents, you know, the children live that, and maybe we're not quite that

maybe we're not quite, I think it's important to understand that already little, the odor,

but it's it, but it comes to every day in your life, that yeah, so it's not

a place where I'm not a I can't say, I'm can't say, And I've been happy, and I've been happy. Because I've got

been there's a good prof. In my parkour. Is what a good prof? Someone who you've opened the bra every morning, you know, and that you feel, recognized,

and that's an attention for the young. I think if I had not had all these good profs in my life, I, I'd have had

really a difficulty. I don't know if I would have reached in fact, to have confidence on me

a day, because at every time, even if I, even if I, I had some people, I had

not accepted, I'm not, I'm not, I'm couldn't be myself, I'm not, I'm not, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, in all the , you know, in the sense

that it's like my interests were never correct, you, but, but these people, man,

me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,

me, Donned confidence in more a little bit more a little bit more They're going to have made a difference

in your life. Really, so when I said there's there's a other people who are there

a lot of people. But it's a good homage that's a lot of people who all the personnel around,

but also, you know, I think it because I had because I had to because I understand,

but how how would you, how would you have you had been if you had been

completely liberal? Yeah. How's, how'd it had been who, this

infant that at the first it's a good question because you know,

I mean it's like I think I'm it's a lot of when I'm when I'm think of the

tristess and I'm feel like I'm isolated and often I'm not not that I'm playing

to play to play to play with ballon chasseer and I know I mean

I was not not not trying to I'm so it's the so I'm quite I'm easy to

I'm trying to I'm I'm trying to I'm I felt all the time I'd all the time not bad

but even if I used to get in the school. But I, you know, what I'm resented when I

think about to my infancyance, but there times I'm talking to be saying, well,

you know, it's a great also, you know, so I think, you think, you know, that my

co. I've been because there had been there's been in my class where I

had used in the space, you know, where I'm felt in confidence, that,

that, men, these profs, had done a place, and there were kind of also some of the friends around

but it's sure that I'd have been more flamboyant, you know, to be more when I was I'd like that

to know to say that I could be able to be in the rion of the girls and I'd be in

brown, in blue marine in patalong gray in cord the roi. It was not

me. That's a costume. Yeah. F'allel like I was like I was like I was

I felt pogned there but you were in a little guy flamboyant

It's a mean, you'd say you see like a little guy at the interior Yeah,

but he had not want to have been to have been and also to explore some interest

I've done I've made the chant classic when I was because in my family

it's very musical but but I think if I had not had not

had been had been had been my head, I'd like to dance.

But I never to be able to be able to because I have a word of if I was going to

the dance. The chant classic, it was kind of something, I didn't,

I'm not too at the school that I did you do chan classic, but,

but, yes. Is that intimidated? Well, so, well, quite,

quite, well, I don't, but it's It's really, because I've heard

what I wanted to say the word intimidation when I'm going to when I'm

there. Before that it was like a word that we had but I

didn't know what what it was to say at the primary. And there

there had been there the age of six years, you know, the fee,

after that then, you know, they're they're they're still they're they're

these these these words when I was when I was when I was in when I was in there was a

message at the intercom of the directorist who said there you come and I'm my car at my

care at my at a moment don't know to you get to you and understand you know and I'm

like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm going to get that for I want to be able to

I have you she had not she has to she has to She said a message that was a bien-veillance and perhaps that

in the case that's a little maladroat. But it's that, you know, the word intimidation he was not explained at the primary.

It was like he-se-hear he-se-kear, we're, he-se-kear, when I'm entering at the second-air,

our proff in English was our teaching resource of our class and then after our

first course I say, well, I'm going to in French just for you because I'm the teacher of your class if you're fed intimidated, if you you're subse

of the intimidation, there are some people who say, these comments mechance, who have some irrespectue at your regard,

well, I'm talking about, and she's like, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she said, I, I, I've seen, the intimidation because I'm young, it's so, I'm just

it's echoed. It had like validated in my, that I that I felt in at the interior of

me, that these words me affected, that the gestures, you know, to be,

to be, to get, to get, it's like, it's like, valided in, in,

in all what I had felt during my genest, and my youngest,

and I don't know if it was the day or the morning, but it's the ,

the same day that I was arrived at secondar there, there's a guy who was in the time when

I'm in the he had put my braus-a-d-d- and he had like barbouye

the visage with my brush-a-d-d plenty of pot-a-d-d and he's part of the cell

of the bed and he was to be in his friends for they for they

after that after that our prof of English Caroline we talk to do the word

intimidation and she if you ever you you And after that, there, there had been a other thing with this guy that, so, well, I'm going to

he'd be here. It's the first time that I'd denounceed these gestures in my regard in second after that, but after that, I really been in charge at the

school by, by, the, the, the, he had been made on the current,

but the intimidation was taken to serious at my education second and I'm recognizing of that. Because there had also the animatrice

to the student, Brigitte, who, he's occupied of the intimidation in our school,

so I'm entered in her own and she had regarded with his eyes, bienveh

and luminous, and she said, you're victims, you're victim of intimidation. And she

she had me served during all my secondair. And at every time that I had

intimidated, well, I denunciate to Brigitte, and I'd I'd meeter the person who met. It had to give you a power

on your intimidator. Yeah. Is that at the house, he said that you were intimidated at the school? What's what

did it? Your parents? Mama, she'd be a lot, but, you know, she, she, she, she,

she'd be reassured to know that I was that I could be encodered. And, I think

that what he wanted to me offering a cockon where I felt acuey.

We had, we're in a nunu at the house also because my mom had been

separated and we're and we have been primarily at my my mother. Especially

it was it's not very much and it was it and it was it were

so it's when I came to after my day of my day and it's Pauline

that was and what Pauline me did was that he said that he said he said

the great of sadness, and what my mother, what's that my grandmother, what my sister wanted, it was to be sure that when I'd enter at the house, I'd choose well and I'm and my mother, at the end of the secondaire, she'll have written a card

to her to thank you. And she said, it's a part of a lot of it, for elever a child, thank you, have made part of this village. So, I've got been chanceous. I've had some of my route. And today, what's the importance

to accord to regard of the other? Well, today I'm really more liberal, you know, and I'm really glad

to be there. I think never, you know, and it's sure that there I think, when I make

these vets more feminine, you know, I'm, well, sometimes I think in the sense that if

I'm trying with a robe, what's what's going to you, you know, do you, you know, do you,

rent-selled, let's have you already arrived? No. No. I'm really I'm not on wood

but I think it's sometimes, but if you know, there's someone who said at you know

in a lot you're like I'm like I'm just fun and I'm amuse and I'm

offoo to what the other think and I'm just a because I don't know because I'm

not derangeant for the other but I'm like I'm like I'm free I'm really liberated of the

pressure of the regard of the other and we'd say what I'm doing to do you do with I'm doing. But it's you're all young

to say that it's powerful it's important it's not it's what it's yeah it's sure

that sometimes I think sometimes I respond to comments to the commenter in two that I receive

on the social And the people They say Arrayed to And if you're With what The other

Pants But in the same It's not Because it's not And then Yeah, and Yeah, I mean You know,

You're like, you Like, you It's intense Receive of the Ainne But, but it's I'm still

It's not But I'm They're Because Because for During these I'm made Intimid

And I'm It's not It's not true That I'm Let's get People to Me Critique

with a visage discovered, me critiqued without anything so it's my way to reprimed my power also and to be

ridiculize because often I'm in more than other other things I'm rye in passing my message

but... Is it they'll come after if you're no? No, one of

you'll have responded there, silence radio sometimes. Yeah, so in the

phone, it's a good something, you've found a, you've found a,

you've done, it's it's been to do it can't to help people because we accord

so we're so it's a cause a cause a lot of anxiety that's a yeah, because we

control not what the other and we can't be able to control the way, but what is important is to be

to be it self-mame exactly, really, I'm, I'm, I'm quite of importance

to regard of the importance to the other now, but I'm my prayer critic, I'm,

it's that it's so that you have that I'm that I'm hard to be hard in over

myself. In which when you're hard to be hard over yourself? Ah, well, my Psy

would say I'm a little voice that's not, that I'm not capable. That's your sabotage. Ah,

he's far. But I'm still trying to that in the last years. We're able to be able to be able to

the control and I'm trying that I have learned to where it came to this little voice that

of my blessures of esteem in fact, you know, and it's that. But there

there are periods, I'm really hot. What you do in this period? Not bad. Well,

so we have the hot before us. I love that. I'll to ask you the question. On what the trait of

character has you have you have to do have? If there one? There are many.

But my impulsivity, I was I was choleric. I had a little to apprivoise

A coler that's a lot of I'm going to I'd say at age adult Yeah

Well, you know, Well, you know, When I'm 18 18, 19 19, it's like It's like,

I've been There's There's There's Like, You know, You're Crasy

In the Mour Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Cased A vitre, you know,

Yeah, and it's Never, When I'm When I'm I was talking to other of that,

he was he was often surprised because we imagine when we imagine when I'm

imagine kind of too, you know, but it's in the intimacy, it was when

I'm when I'm with my family. What's that? What's that?

A space of impatience, you know, it was really, like, it was really,

I'm at a moment of the end of my joint of silicone of And then, then I

pung an air And it was like It was like It was like It's like in It's like It's like It's like

It's like It's It's like it It's like It's like Your Vair It's plenty And the

Pugut It was It was your silicone Yeah, And it It was like It was

It was an Collair that I'm Amagasn for many And that Man, it It's

Explosed in these moments biennesey. The color, it's physical, you know, you know, you're not

your mind, you know, there's a lot of symptoms physical to the choler, and when we get home,

you know, we can't that we can't, but when we're not, I don't know, if it's like, how you

get to see, when you're sometimes, there's like, manion, what's what what's what's going,

it's like, it's, it's, I, I'd, I've been to live a world parallel,

you, and, And then, you know, I had haunt of that, to be in choleric. Often, it's what that's the same. But it's not

well, you know, there's a question, you can't say that in a conversation and yet, I petted my window, I've cast it,

because I've made a color, it's, it could make fear, you know, but it would be afraid to me,

it's so, because it's like if I was like I was like I'm in control of what I did,

and to wrap everywhere, and to cry, and, my, my, At a moment a minute

we said, well, you cry don't well, you know, you know, it's what what you're

going to be I'm just to get a mirroar. It's jeananan it. So,

so that there had a lot of, well, you know, when it when it was

when it's because my mother had been to say at certain crisis of a certain

crisis of yeah, I'm was chained you're jeaned, I had honed, so yeah,

it's not, So I've got really I've really tried to work that. I remember I think it's in the

second year of university I'm really I've consulted specifically in arriving in saying I think I

have a problem of gestion of color I'm going to work a great maturity is to

want to say it's a idea and I'm going to you have it's a reason we're

in the grand profounder when we when we're when we're at the cholera,

it's a lot. It's a lot of things that we're afraid. But yeah,

but it's mean, it says it's going to change their way, react to

react to the wrong and not reactation. Yeah. But, you know, it's not

for the crime, but often it's a retardement. There's something that has not

been getting been to get to also related to the frustrations

by my family, yes, but also by a intimidation that I

had vizue that and that they'd have liked to be in their time,

but on the I was never able to do that yeah, after that I went

and I would be and I didn't know that's that's that's that I'm

but but you know I'd let's back you're you're

to I'm I'm didn't I didn't and you know

I was I had afraid to when I was young. I came of a family that we're

afraid of derange and I'm and I'm in a way, it's a really felt that I'm

prevoise this, this fact that that I have the right to be able to take my place even if it

and yeah, I'm sorry and yes I'm sorry sometimes my mother when I cried too far,

even more more than that but even there a few years years when I when I cried far

when I you're far and I'm Assume. But it's that, you we're in a family

who has a fear of derangey. My grandmair went to at home in the winter and we

were going to have to have to get to his big mantle of furrure and we we're

we're going to get you don't, derange you not, derange you not? It's that.

So, so I had to that I've learned to my affirmed in fact.

Yeah, because we were to to continue to continue. Yeah. So, there were

a lot of It's like like the It's like the It's like A presto Yeah, The pressure

Yeah, Yeah, there's a couple of times that the pressure Yeah, and today by the

Colour, how it's, how it's, how it's, I'm really more apais I'm

I'm view but it's it's sure that there there's a pique, well, it's been

my silicone of my, maybe it's that's going to see, I'm sorry, No, but it's so,

now I'm I'm trying to help. I'm better for demand to the aid. But, you know,

but, you, the last I had, I had worked on the cell of the house of

and we're re-installed a new vanity and I'm and I'm said, hey,

I'm just to say, well, I'm just, you're just, you're really that you're getting more

cal, more, you know, so it's not your competences. My, my competence,

no, my competence, my, my, At the level of your temperament. Yeah, of my little little bit of coleric that was not present,

that I was more zen. It's interesting when someone said, too. Yeah. But I've found to find that part. Well,

certain. Yeah. But, you know, the color is an issue for a lot of people. And many of them also.

With the, you know, we're trying to, you know, when we're at the school to identify the emotions,

how to gerry the emotions, to not have own when a color when a color mount, the coler

also, you know, a color sane, which is not, you know, that's not, you know, it's not

a lot of, it's a lot of the protection of your territory. It's a protection of a sort of

a lot of, you But it's like not, you know, it's like that it's like it's not it's a

but it's part of the emotion that you have when I'm, when I'm when I'm saying,

I said, I've said that I'm sorry, but now, it's something that I'm something that's something

that's And then, well, they said, but why you're doing that at the TV? We don't do that at the TV? The madame, they're not, I'm not going to say. The madam,

primarily, I'm not, I'm not saying, well, I know, I know, many people who are, they're playing the nerves, you know,

there's some situations that are enragette. Yes, I've never even me to have to say, oh, well, if you're just because

you're fatigued, no, it's because I'm not because I'm not part, you know, but I've identified the things, I'm not,

I'm not sure, I'm not being attended, you know, I mean, I think it's a lot of,

because we can't't not get to so if you have the malor to host the voice, oh,

well, she's fatigued and it's a stereke she, all these affairs but I'm

it like, it's like if there I'm in a color to I'm in a injustice,

no, it's not, and I'm and really, I'm, we're not we're not the right

to say that I'm not that it's delicic for me it's an emotion,

it's a moment, dissatisfaction, who's exprimed to this fashion that. And, yeah,

there's a regret, I've talked about, but in time you do it and there's a reason.

And the color can't be a motor also. Well, yeah, but the choler has

saved the life. Exactly. So, but, but I think that when you think,

when you get a little part, you know, it's more difficult. You know, you know,

that's not your question to be like the head of this way, it's for

that's true the gesture the just that to ask you to say, I'll try to understand what's you're in

the same because if you're to put in a mirror, it's not going to be other stuff. Is that you

ready to pass on the yellow so you're so you're so you go to and you will make

and you want to make you know, you'll be super abel at the time to bring

my family my family will be here. You know to what from the Lake St.

John? Robert Val. Oh, you've been of Robert Val. Yeah. So we all right. We'll salute

your family, Gerhardt. Thank you. So I read the questions. You're in choosing one, and I'm still on choosing one in this level that. Have you

had you had some time of your life had you have you have you been an amitia in your

daily? What is you have not received to your parents and that's you've been

to talk to the amitier, what place to bring the amity in your because

Because for me, the friends, it's been important. And it's like if it's it's

thanks to the amity that I have seen to who I'm in the life, you know,

and then, I, I've all the time , I've always, there, in my, in my,

my, genese, but, um, but, I'd say that my, my,

my amitiers, that I, I really felt that I I could be amy with all the world,

finally, it's when I'm when I'm going to I'm in a university.

And it's like I'm like I'm there's I'm people who were in being very

different of me, but we had a passion common, we know, we're studying

in television, so there had that that we had a tripe, but there also, you

the music, and it's like it's like if I'm I felt accepted

for the first for the whole everyone. And that has kind changed my

life. I remember my friend J.P. Jean-Philip who is a guy who play

football hockey, you know, who has grandied in the gang of sports,

the boys, that at the university had all the t-shirt of the canadian and that at a moment of a day, I'm going to go to class a

matine, and he's like, like, sense! And he moved the bra even. And, you know, on paper, the people, we'd have no idea that we're having, because, you know, he he plays hockey at football. You know, even his friends

of youngest, with who he has made, you know, quite, when he knew together at his The first time You know, the first time he You're like, you know, why you're at the Fete, you're like, I'm

like, I'm a good chom But, but it's so and it's so we're like valided in my masculinity, to have an

guy etero different of me who I'm who I'm who I'm who I'm not don't know to get to

you. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's has a great difference. The proximity. It's like

at part of that, in entering at the university

and in having this circle that, it has all changed for me.

What's what your friend to do you? Eh, but, you know,

in the it's, it's a relationship that I like, because even even

even again, we're in the good partner of festival of music, GP now,

travel in music, and the people are like all all, my God, you

that you are a good, to be funn to be together because at all the final, we're all the time

we're all the same you're like you're like to go to go to the toilet? And it's

that I think that I think that if there had not had had not had been we,

we'd we'd never permitted to have this amitia that

and and then it he makes just feel being all

my my friends me feel very. And we think when I look

when I look at the people who I'm in my time, I'm doing a good person, because it's all

the bad I'm very entoured. And so, we're having a fun, that I

laugh with my oldy that we're maddy that. But it's not when it's

not when it's going to be there. And then, and that's it's an richest

incredible. And, you know, my family is long, I'm very prox to my family but I'm well, I'm well, I'm

really built my family of adoption, and, when I was, when I was, I said that I was not

made for the bonoer. I thought, I'd say, I was not dought for that, you know, I was,

I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I'd say, I, I'd say,

I, you, I, that I'm enfonce a bit in these emotions and I read that in my carrier the other by doing this

mace, I'm doing it I'm not made for the bonner and I was like, it's really that I thought that when I was young

and then finally I look me and my oldy that we're so fun and that we have the bonner

and have you have you have you have you have you have to make fun to your is, is that

is you're in the secondaire? Yeah I've had 13, 14 14 years. And, well,

these pensions, they're on, they're coming, they're coming,

you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's long time. Even

a few years, you know, in the period more difficult. And, you know, at the

secondaire, it was present, It was more sombre, but these ideas that me would have also, you know.

But, you know, at the second that's it, I, you know, I'm thinking, and... For me to find to your sufferance. Yeah.

And how you sort of that when it comes, when it came, when it had arrived, when it's arrived, more recently?

Um, well, in, in at alluring of my friends. You're talking to that, But often when it's

When I'm not super well, I'm I'm still the reflex to me isolate but by fear of derangeer Because when

we're fine, it's easy, when it's not, when it's not, but but, you know, but I'm never

cached to my time, the period where it's not the period where it's Sometimes it was

not me that was not me that was going to go to ask a requirement to

be able to I'm sure I'm I'm I'm I'm my my psychologist

and it really had really, you know I've started because I consulted in

batch in my life there's a period difficult there at the year 2022 I had

super good and I had I had, like, pretty three months off of job, of research,

I'd say I had like in a way to profit to the day, to give a little

to me have to be two months where I were, I'm really, and I, and I'm

crashed the end July 2, 2022, and it's, at a moment of a time, my

aunt, and I'm too, I'm very proge to my aunt also,

and, we, we're, we're I'm alice to go in these zones

in my family with my aunt, with my mother, with my mother, with my

seurs. And, like, I'm not capable of to fake my emotions, so I'm

not the I'm not the I'm not you're not to see, but I'm on the voice, we're trying.

Exactly. And my aunt my aunt she had and I'm and then it's like,

and I'm like, I'm I'm going to be far to be far a train but it's

it's like it's like it's like it's like sort of Sele. We'd say it's like

if I, I, I had even not controlled my thought my thing.

And then, after to this moment, if I had some of the misery, I had

made some for having a psychologist to, you know, I'm going to to CLEC

to at access, and I had like not of service, and I had like

to be at but at all, you know, I'm, well, I'm,

I was not all just all, but I felt all alone and I'm and then finally I found my

psychologist and that I'm going on today, and there's a chance I'm at that you

recognize these periods, yeah. And it was also that, you know, when I said, when I said

when I said that the people, the, the hit and run, that I'm saying, that they're

coming and they're parted by moment, well, you know, I've had had been as,

like some if it's these phases depressive that they'd and we're we're trying

that I would have never arrived. It was it's a so that at this

moment that it was like I was discouraged that it even again,

I'm like we're that every that's it can't it's all the time it's

all the time that it there's there's there's a restack that you come

the other advance in life and I'm I've did all the time

there's after that you know, you're to have to be able to have to you're

deprimed you're not able to to work to make advanced to make a lot of

so that that's that I wanted to work to to understand these

phases that to know to know how the the way

to see what, the elements of the thing what is what is

what is what is what is a sign that that, but it's point out of the nose and how,

well, how a little change my mindset, you know, at the part of that, how deal with

these ideas, well, well, I'd, I'd, I'd rather sometimes also in

these buckle where I'm devalorized. You're to what you've been to what you've

been more young. Yeah. And, then, then, then, when we're

we're trying that yeah I'm my period of doubt we're we're

we're we're but but but it's a little that I'm

I'm not sent in a period completely ensemble that's well

you work yeah it's a job at in plenty yeah

but yeah but in in the time you sometimes you're

we're we're we're coming of anything because I

can't to you make really the affair on what you have in common and not the differences. Yeah.

And it's that he has made a difference in your time, he's not like me, I'm not like me, I'm not like him, but what's we're in common?

Yeah, and me to me, to me, and I'm saying one of their also, without that we're on the fact

that I'm queer that, you know, yeah. So, that's the first that you've felt like you like this

family, that you've been plenement to, and that you with the group? Well, yes, because

I was, you're an, yes. You're going to have been quite as well, because, you know,

before I had kind of the people who were in the but it's that there, around two,

around us, who had that we didn't necessarily to get, you know, the people who were doing,

the time around, you know, you had been there's been having put an intimidator. Exactly.

Just the just of the people who can't just the people who And, you know, also, I'm

into a period of my life where, you know, I, you know, I, you know,

I was able to be able to certain affairs, so, so, so, I,

me, I'd be the permission to be my same, but I, but I, so,

so, so, so, so, it's so, it's so, it's still, it's still,

well, it's, it's, it's, the first when I've felt, that I'm

different, in the In fact, it's a... It's not much. You're not quite what you said. It was not different. It was like all the world. We're like,

we're like, all right, but unique in the same time. Because everyone, it's that, there are these degrees, because there are these things are more apparent that attire the intimidation, but I think that at the interior of us,

we're at several moments of our life completely different. And we're, and we seem, they're all, you know, it would be, you know, it would be, you know,

it would be simple. if I'd if I'd ask to me question if it's that, but we're

in some it's different We're in we're all we're all things that they're not necessarily

in the mule but yeah, there's a there's a more flagrant that we're more flagrant

that we're but derangeant by a mentality by and it's the norm

of all the prejudice it's a mean, it's a lack of knowledge, but, you know, so often

the lack of an lack of awareness, it's a matter that's a time, you repeat, it's for that what

what's what what's going to talk about the other, it's a grand influence. Absolutely. Well,

also what's what the young see on the social, you know, it's still it's kind of

impurant with the movement masculinist. I've started to make the conference in the school in

past. My conference called Sassam for brilliant, because that's my message

at the final, you know, we're all different, we have all this little thing that that we're unique, and it's when we assume, and that's assume

all what we're, that we can rayonet. Absolutely. And, you know, to have to have their place, you know,

but, you know, I've seen in the schools, that, the movement masculinist, and it's,

it's, it's instore a firmature of the spirit, and it's not necessarily because their parents are,

They're firmed. You know, there's parents who have been written, I'm so I'm very

I'm open, I'm open, and I'm not, my parents are made up homophom, misogine.

So, you know, so you're not, you don't know, the principles if we're of their parents,

their values. Because what's, what's there's an impact on on them, it's what

they see, they've seen, and you have encountered these young masculinists? Well, not

not said they've not said they've been not said in the in the comments in the comments

in the comments face a face a yeah face a face at the difference and you

see a a mounte also well um well of the religion you know

is that is that you've been not okay well it's it's

it's it's it's that explain that I'm that's We've seen in the Montet of the

monty of the monty of the importance or of the importance of a of a coup of the because it

they're giving the force it, it's it's a valid, it but it's it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, you know, it's not, it's saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I do that, but,

it's, they're taking what they want, they're exactly, it's not necessarily of the people,

I think, they're all the fact of, of all the who is the religion, and they're not necessarily practicant,

they're not in they're saying, they're saying, they're sort of their context and they're and they're they're saying,

and they're in saying that they're going to a day, to the values traditional and that the man is

the poorvoyor and the woman, and the of the thing, to put the people,

you know, it's this discourse that, finally, the discourse masculineist. And,

and, you know, there's a directorist of a school where I've made a conference who had

really surprised of the comments that she had heard of she had to she had a pen,

she was like, let's have 15 years I've seen, I've ever heard of many, and it's just,

they've been religious, those there, when is they were born of the spirit, you know, I know their

parents, so, there's something, you know, there's something, you know, that's always to see

in our young to see that. Yeah. It's important what you do, So it means

that there are there are their parents who recognize not their values at their children.

So you have to intervene in in the case we're in talking about with them we can't

let's say that's the question that I choose what you have not received

to your parents that you don't have been that hey my

my my my my my my my parents

Well, You know, It's sure that My mom My mom Travelled So, you It's like

It's like If you'd Like, it was like, Because she Parted, and So, so, I think that It's really

It has challenged my syndrome of abandonon, I was due at the part. But, you know, in the same time, when she was there,

she was there, and with her love and her unveillance, but when, you know, there was a presence. In the case,

you could, you could be up the morning and she'd be to get up, she'd be able to be there, and I'd be

the morning, it's part, you know, so. So, but, you, in the time, we had,

a fillet of the sort of we had a nunu, we had our grandma who had very present also,

but it's sure that, you know, there's a certain security in my link with my mother, that maybe, that young, I've been that's been

my my blessures. And, my, my, my, my, insecurities, you know, and in with the attachment. Yeah.

The attachment securizing was maybe, it had been more complex. Exactly. But, you know, she's, she's and she's

she's been good for she's been good, she's, she's, she we're doing, we know, we're all our things, she,

but it's their life, you know, it's, it's the same time, it's, and in some time,

you know, sometimes, you know, even at the adolescence, and I'm, in the same time, there, there's,

there, there, there's always there, there, in the same, time, you know, I'm like, when you're there,

you're like, you're there, you're not, it's a priority, you, She had us us and she's

not a lot of she's not much made in my wife. And I'm much of my mother and

I'm a good relation with her and it's still the she's not she, she she'll

she'll be and she she's going she's not she's also and she she, she she,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's like the first at the line of

front on the on my emotions, she, she, she, she,

what she she, she's she may , Well, it's a good question. Well, she was a very fier, I think. Yeah, well, she was good in therapy.

She thought that I'd try to be able to, but, you know, it's weird. We'd say, I don't know what she has been to think, really. Because, you know, by the relation, what you've been there, there's been, in a form of reject, at some sort of reject, in some. In fact, we, of our salon, we've been perhaps resented like that. The reject also he is come of my

relation with my father because my father, we're sure, we're very different

and they're young, we'd that we had not a lot of that I would deceive

and how we've seen that decever his father? Hey, but difficult when I'm

quite. Is he he'd do it or it was your perception? Well, it's my

perception, but at At the meantime, I mean, he wanted that I'd have a chasse at a page, that I embarked in these activities, and, well, I mean, it was not, you know, and at the pace, I had all the time

on the mousseau, I was all the time in the front, you know, I mean, I just had just to go ahead of the lake, not down the chaloupe, and then, you know, the can Ipeach, I'd, you know, there's something of more plait than, after that, and then, after that, I was all the time

to malle, you'd, I'm not d'oe, and put in a group poissons, gluant, in my hands, it's not after that the chaste you know,

a chaste, you know, a lot of a chast a per and the first time I'm the first time

I'm trying to it's not for me, you know, it's not for I'm, and even when my

grandpare had died, he had a few years, there, in 2018,

he had said, well, I'd get a fuzie, because my my father,

it had been to his, son, son, it's like I like I've got to a fuzzi to your

grandpair if you never you decide to get to the chaste so I'm I'm

thinking he wanted that I'm that I'm that's because it's a great interest for

him yeah and that his relationship with his past by that also

and it's and it's and it's what now your relationship but

now now we're we we're we're we're we

today I'm and I'm I'm happy, and we're and we're jas,

we're flaccotte. But, you know, it's that we're doing that we're quite quite in our difference,

we've got to understand also that these interests, they're probably not the people, that he's

he's got and already he'll accept, but, you for my father, in the fact also

that I'm, it's my co-est, that I'm about in the guy and the people,

that's that for for him, you know, it's still challenging. And, well, my coming out also, in fact, when I was in school of 5, and that, you know, my father, it's been the last person to know, because I had

scared of his reaction. The reaction that had, it was a lot to that, that I'd attended. But, you know, all my, I'd prepare, you know, my genus, I'm prepared at this reaction, that.

At what you've seen, that you were gay and that one day that you'd have to be because there's often a period

that's long, you know, before, is it has been long, this moment

that? It's long. But, in fact, you, it's like if the

first the first of this I, I've had young when I'm

probably about 9, 10 years, you know, that, you know, I'm

saying that, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I, in a little sort, but I would not I would not me'll assume to me, you know,

and I had said to my cousin, I think I had 11 years, I had said, my most great

fear, it's to be homosexual. Because it it was like if I was, it was like if I had

done reason to the intimidator. Mm. I had not of that. Um, it was like

it was also, you know, I'm made made fat intimidated there with with the more,

because I've been young, and that, you know, fiff, tappet all,

and there's the impression that's that's not to be able to be to be able to for what

you're, so I, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm and also, it's so, and I,

and I, I, I thought, that's for my part, it'd be difficult

to be difficult to bring, as a young age, you know, I'm

I remember, I think it was a metamorphose at Canalvi. I mean, my own my own my own my own

and I'm there was Jean Iroldi who did, you did the stylism in the show, my

father had said, in the whole guy at TV, huh? You know, in my

farm interior, I, I know, I'm still than I Roldi, you know,

because he is not, because he's not, because he's that says that says that says, commenter, you return

in the interior of you. So, you know, so it's it's not made with my father. It's not

easy. And after that, it's really in Secondar 5, let's say, I've had

the confirmation that, you I've really had my first interests for these for other guy, in

fact, and that I had an interest amourous, and that I didn't before that,

you, when you, is that I'm gay? All the guys who were that were the people who were intimidated I had

I had no an idea of to be close of the guy so I'm like I'm not gay the people

who I'm the people but they're but after that in five I've had I've had I've had

my first job and it's a friend in fact it's a minute that she had passed a bit

by a period more difficult like I had and that I'm confied at her there's and that's

the intimidation to see, the intimidation on the secondar and we're so we've we've got to

exchange there's and then we're doing we're doing with our family and then

the fill in egue we've we've developed a relation and we have made our meeting

together yeah in the same yeah in the in fact no but we're

we're doing so everyone I think I'm sorry you say the no

no we've done We have made a conference of press, we're presented, we're assembled all the Lake St.

Jean. So you had said, you have, it's done the force in the in front of

being in a same, to say, it's like, it's like, we know the confirmation that we're,

we're, we're attried by the guys, finally, you know, and there had a

relationship also between us so, so it was like, we had some,

we had been to do it, so, you know, so, we, so, we,

so, With your mother, it's passed with my my my mother

my my name my charm but my my my mother she

my my mother she had she and it and it's that's so I

think I wrote for the to her for her for me and of what she

did what she did what she she she had she she had she

she and at the time she's my mom she's my she she has

made a can And my beau-pair 's called Martin and she

she said we're we're doing we're doing and then and you know for my

grandmair also it's easy it's easy to Toma had been at

on brunch of park in fact Toma he had on on the family

to my mother and I went to go to family to my

pair that he didn't have a job that I had a chum. With your

With my With my It was more difficult I'm not I'm able to It's my Sear That's my

So it's actually Because at a moment Don't know We're going Subpo in family And then With my My grandmair

My grandparent My aunt And my son And then And then My son My son I'm abuted

At Albanel A little Village at St. John So my My dad He said Tomorrow what's

You're Let's go But I can't, tomorrow, I'm going to have albanel. And you're going to do, and I'm going to have a friend? Ah, well, d'apre me, you're a little blonde of albanel. And then, I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm not in albanel. And then my grandmaire, she, and my grandma, paternal, and she said, well, by me, saying, don't your little blonde,

it's, I'm not, no, but I'm not, but there's a little blonde. And then, you know, he comes to, uh, uh, he'll go to these little blake of little bit, but I'm, you know, I'd go to my chum, you? So, like, my Sarah, in all she's, in all she's, in a case,

and she was embarked in the chair, and she said, I mean, you know, you know, I'm going to

I'm not, I'm said, yeah, because I'm going to be my son, my son,

my son had said, well, you know, he had had been the reaction that maybe,

that, that, that, and she, and she, she, but he will be able

to talk to say, so, so, I'm, so, So, I was like, I was like the same time, my dad to call me, my father, my pales, because, you know,

my father, I'd go ahead, in a while, he'd in a while, we'd have been in the same village, but, you know, it's, it was, you know, I'd had put in a few, like, you know, because I'd have gotten to adolescent, so, it was, like, you, we'd, you know, we'd, see, at times at all, like that, um, and, and, then, yeah, man, it's just,

for, I'd, like, attended his own call. Finally, we're to have called me to give a little course of conduct.

So we're going to have to be in charge. And then he said, well, you can't

get to get to come to your and you're like, oh, no, return to

to show we're going to get to it's like that it's like, it's like, it's like, we're going to

we're in the salon and me said, well, we've never really had the occasion to jose

to jose to my, he had I've started in saying, well, you know, I

knew that you know, and you know I'm not with the choice that, that's a choice that

that's a that's not to nuir in your life, you know, you know, you know, it's a

lot of the other, you know, it's quite, it's quite that, that I, that's, it's what,

finally, to be, to be, to be, to be, and it's that's not a choice,

and, and, and, that's the judgment, but I've lived I've been

from the whole way, and then today, you know, at this moment that, I have an

impression to be able to be able to respond to people to their commenter. So,

so, so, so, it's so, it's a, brief, it's, it's,

it's, it's a discussion difficult, and when I went to, to, my mother, and there

had my grandmair maternale that had, you know, I'm, I'm, it's,

I'm, it's just to pass, and she said, but my, po, pretty, want you that I'm talking to want to get

to get it to get you to get to it's so there's like there's like in the family, it's very

accepted, it's, you we were at that, and the side of my part, but it's

really more taboo so I'm like I've been like, I've been in the years after that,

but in the years after my father made, I made on certain agisement that I had

certain publications Facebook, It's the regard of the other that's probably You know,

that I, you know, he said I'm saying I'm in marge of the society. I've

I've been made in couple on Facebook with my child the employers will be

that, they're not to engage and then after that after that my look more

more look more than origin it's, it's, it's, it's it's

appeased with the time, but there were there were some there were

some of his part and And then, you know, he he saw that I'm able to be able to be able to be with me

and to reach, and that the people accept, and I think he's I feel like that? You know, that's, you do you do

good? Yes, really. It's very reparator. You, after, after, if we had,

I had made, I had made a pause, you know, like, like, in conclusion of this

adventure that for to thank all the people who had supported, all the people who

had made part of this adventure that that made to grow and that's that's, I don't

not, of the love that after my passage to see my and I'm

recognizing of all that, and my father has just commented, you know,

congratulations to you, my fabulous face. That I braille my

life. Because I had the impression, it's like the confirmation that we had to

a point who who he had used he said fabulous a word that's

a word that he's sullis often that's like the confirmation that he he had he commented

publicly also, he said he he had he could listen to he had he said

he made to me all every every and even you know I've kind of

about the relationship with my part and sometimes I had

a bit a bit a bit because just like the regard of the

other on because we in a little milieu. So my, my parents,

they're going to be at the , you know, because I think I'm going to see,

I'm going to be able to he's not the judgment of the other on the

fact that, well, maybe, I'm, I'm maybe I'm a certain moments in

our relationship, so I had to, I'm afraid to come that it had been to be

to the part, and finally, because we never re-re- talking about, we're

never re-revenue there The fact that she'll have to me on to hear it to talk, it's at

TV. Yeah, and there's there can be able to talk without interruption.

Yeah. It's rare, I mean, it's quite a privilege to be able to be able to talk about

with, you know, also intensely and to have, and to have, and to have, among, that's,

something we're not able to see, to see, in the way, in this show,

with someone of someone of someone of also bien-veillance and I imagine that it's

a privilege. I'm okay, I'm my son. I'm not in trying to judge. I'm not in front of recule and I'm observing in his essence. Yeah. And, you know, also it's special because, you know,

all the family of my parents, my cousins, my cousins, my cousins, my cousins, that I adore, who, you know, we have really a great family, but, you know, but, you know,

I've felt, you, I didn't, you know, I'd say, I'd say, I'd not too met in this family that, and I'd say, it'd all the time, like an adaptation for

me to be able to be able to be able to get able to take my place and my in the case

say it's on your time you're talking and they're they're going to they're on they're doing access to

a version of myself that maybe in my family on my family on the part there are

there's there in there's for trying to try to if we're if we're if it's

it's changed it's changed a lot Well, I understand. It's not just that we've learned,

you know, your family, a party of your family has applied to to know, and it's accepted because what you

did the message of your person, it really said, it's so, it has changed the perception. Yeah.

But there had already a good bit of time before that. Yeah, because he had been

there's not rejected that to do you. Exactly. There's like in the last year, our relationship,

our relationship, our relationship, we're, we're, you know, Miser on our force and so we're to resemble

at the final Yeah, on your resemblance and not on your differences. Exactly. But if we

seem to like consolidate something and it's that my father also on the it's more

it's more to be more better than he's more attentioned. The moment where I had not super

good in 2022, you had made a moment of a moment of a and then he

he said how it was like it's like correct and we jazes with few

of more And at a moment He'd say Well, it's just Correct It's just correct It's like It's just correct

We're just correct We're just correct We're just correct, It's like It's like It's like the First time I thought

To, and it It's interested to my emotions And I'm I'm part to cry You know,

It's like It's like, It's all right When I'm When I'm When I'm When I'm That's sure

I'm not Abitue like consoled. But, you know, it's cute. But he's it's cute. We'd say that

we're like that we're like that there's kind of something that something that's something that's in our relationship and in my

transparency with you. He had accepted your vulnerability also. He made to go to be able. Yes, he

has been he's been he's probably not the part of the but I'm he's been he's signified

his presence. And after there had a day that I'd parted in tournage and on a on a mission

like a researchist and you know I was in a period where I'm in a period and I'm

in my time in my time in these periods and then you have to be on a plate

to get to get people and I know I have just the good to be in

a little old to be so it so that before this before this

day he had an an message text me said good

good news not that the force, it's with you. And I had so I'd try to

and that's thinking, you know, that I had said, that I'd didn't, you know, that I'd be stressed,

and that's me strescent, and it's not, so, yeah, we have a great relation today. Nive-Roo.

Yes. You, the bra, you'd be on three, and there, I'd choose, not,

I'd say, no, question, and then I'd choose, one. Thank you. Thank you.

What's, what is your Rappar with the solitude? Is that you have already

at your limit physical or psychological? What do you were the most difficult to do?

I'm going to go to my relationship because I have a real of a

relationship with the life. It's like something that I'm sometimes I'm still even if

I'm super well entoured as I said I'm When I was young, I was, you know, I was, you know, I was still a, you know, I was just, I was the last year of all my cousins, cousins,

and I was also in my family. So, I, so I, I'd, I'd, I'd enjoy a lot of all, you know, you know, I, I'd have my playmobile, I had my sonne by my playmobile, I'd I was just alone. After that, the adolescence,

but when I went to I was, you know, I was, you know, I had not so

that I, you know, I saw, I, you know, I was in the night,

I was going to make a long, and I, with my chien, Desi

at the time, it was, it was like something that was really to,

often to think, And I think that my capacity to analyze my emotions comes to these grand moments of solitude there. But in the same time, I said that I was kind of a mancholic, and sometimes, perhaps that I'd rest a little there in my tourmen and that I'm infirmate a little bit there.

So I think that it was like a cuto at double-tranching. At the same time, it would make me make it to make sure. But in the same, it would make sense all. You'd say it. You did not the plain? It's like if you It's like if you It's just

The Vid And then And then And again In the last And I'm I'm coming I'm in

I'm in Collocation for some years During my My Sour And after that In 2018 When I was

When I'm My life professional I'managed All right So it So it's So it's So it's

So it's So it's So I've And I've And I've And it's a choice that I made

that's a moment that because I had had to have the control

of my space I'm to have to have to have to be to have

to work to have to be so I wanted to get my space

but in the time there there there there I'm

there I'm in a event social I'm I'm

the life of the party and I get fun and I'm to travel the world and I'm and my guys are not to be texting

you're who because I'm on the bar and the other and they're but they're so I'm I'm

I'm the I'm the feeling that but in my everyday I'm still you're still

you're saying to be being isolated in the solitude yeah that's two levels

that's that's that's I'm going to say that you can, because you're someone of solitaire, that's what I'm saying, now, to be

to feel alone, we're in the solitude, and when you feel like that, you're a tendency, in more, to tisolet. Yeah. It's a bit of cuss. It's just so.

Yeah, but it's like if it's like it's like it sometimes in these periods of doubt, you know, in some of the period where I'm, you know,

I'm active in... Is that you in... Is it something that you research these periods of doubt

that? Well, certainly, at some of some of the that I research that a little,

but, um, but, you it's that, there's like a party of me that is good

in the part of it's a time that it's been too, and there that I'm

alone to the world and sometimes in my crisis of color there's often I'm

there's never someone to me help but in the phone it's at me to ask

to ask to come to your primary because at you're you've been to find

in fact we've offered to the time you don't when you're on

at you're at at the primary at even you can be solitaire

without aming the solitude The solitude is like also almost an almost

almost an almost the people are saying I'm not because solitaire is like a

choice the solitude is not necessarily a choice but but you you've known to be

alone so, so the children are so often I don't generalize

but when they're they don't they're there's ever You know, sometimes

when your parents, I know, I'm there's a one that's a lot of I'm a

great-gare that's, you know, that's, you know, but you're there's some, but

you're not necessarily by choice that you were the when you didn't think you

think you retombe in a in something in something in something in something in

some yeah. You know, sometimes in some of the period where I am a

bit more deprimed and that I see, that I have plenty of friends

but I'm like not the reflex to their to their because you know

sometimes I'm in some it's not it's not it's not important they don't

they don't want to see at this moment it's a subote and that

puissant yeah but but but but I'm but

I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm I'm yeah but that's

the Solitaire, it's not the solitude, you comprehend, it's not the same thing. But it's that, so, I have a rapport difficult with the solitude. Because we're like, it's me that he's created, often, at certain

moment, and at the same time, it's like if I'm fashed of the life, you know? Is it would be that someone's impose in this time, that? Yeah. Like,

I'd like, I'd like, I'd like that that's all. It's sure that But is it Is it's not that A bit Or is it a couple

Assure when the other It's not It's not To be present In the silence But just a presence I'm just a presence I'm talking to

If you've had If it's not necessarily It's not necessarily It's a couple But is that That you're Rechercherchercheria Atrave this

Aventure That's to find The clue Of that? Maybe to be, because, you know, it's like if, you know,

my, the life in partnership, it's that I'm like not that, you know, I'm playing

there, but you're on the solitary that exactly, but I'm like, I'm like,

I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm not, it's on a base everyday, so,

so, I, I'm not, the, this security, that, when you're in couple,

you've been in couple, Yes, I had 18. You have not been before? No. We've got to have 18 years.

Okay. So, I'm wondering at this time, at this moment that, is that you have more this sentiment

of solitude? Well, you know, my enjeue was totally different there's,

I was, I can't not respond to your question, because I'm like, I've ever

with my plain person. I'm, I'm sorry, but is that you search

in a couple? Perhaps, yes. At PC. I'm, I'm I'm trying to have to have some of the

project at two. To, I'm, I'm I'm to be able to someone

and there's someone and someone who's who's um, um, you know,

sometimes I'm just so, and there's like there's nothing that I'm with my friends and we're

with my when we're in a chalet, in the solitude, I I've become a bit

crased, you know, I'm nouried a lot of the energy of the other.

In the period of solitude, it's, it's, it's, it's, so,

so, so, so, so, I think, I'm a bit, it's a

fact, that it takes, it's, for not, for not to come in,

in the circle, that, you're the sport to find the love?

Yes, I'm I don't know I don't know where because Were you Dessu

if we're Semeh Celebrity? Well, it's sure that you know, you know,

Nikola was not the guy for me, my partner of the mission. But it's

sure that I'm saying, I've passed the applications of a meeting,

I'm out of the bars, I don't know every day of my life

in, you know, we're we're in a where we we're where we're

a lot, I mean, I mean, I'm in a encounter, you know,

I'm there's and I'm there and I'm date not, you know, not that's

not that's not that's it's, but it's rather that I develop a line that

it's over the cruise or the dating, you know, so I'm saying, well,

it's maybe it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that it's that's

that's that it's I've got to that and then it's not it's not

it's sure that's a deception and then I say that I'm saying well you think you

think you really to find out you're like why not why not we're we're we're accompanied

in a approach yeah of dating um um a good a good

fashion I'm but even if there there's not a couple of if we're

have endured after the tournage, well, I said, well, it's possible for me. It's sure

that when you, in the case, I was embarked in this process that, you had, you had an objective,

yeah, yeah, to work, yeah, to work on, but to do you, is that

has to help for the future? Is it to be for the future? Really. Yes,

it made plenty of key, and, you I think that it can even there

in I mean, now we'd say that I'd say that I'd be a good partner. Before, if we'd say we'd, I'd think that I'd be alone because I'd be endurable. Oh, okay, but it's a change, it's all, to think, that you can't, but you, well, there had kind of that, that you'd be able to, that you'd be able. Well, you know, I'd say my point coleric, and, and, well, I don't know, I'd say, we'd say, we'd like, you'd have like this... You'd judge'd much.

Yeah, I'm judged a I'm doing I'm saying, well, it's a I'm sorry,

you know, I'm not a chance, you know, I'm not an impression you had to have enough

to be able to that also. Yeah, and now, now, now, now, my God,

I'm mean, I'm saying, I'm not that's the man, I'm not, you know,

there's there's a there's a there's a certain, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, My life is the fun I'm the fun I'm sensitive I'm at least

I'm I'm sure I'm full I'm full of affection I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure

I'm sure I'm sure because I'm I'm in the others they're not affectuous they're not

in the relations affectuuse sometimes I'm I'm like I'm sorry to doorme coley and they're like

Arke dorming collie you're like you're like you're not you're like no my night

I'm sure I'm like But I'm, I search the person with who we will be able to perfectly in a quire, you know,

I'm not that, I'm not quite, I'm a lot of, you know, so I'm not quite so it's too. It's said. So,

we'll launch that in the universe. We'll land that in the universe. So, for those that were not on the

platform, we just to just for to understand. So, you have you to be subon to the Patreon

for the for the way, you know, in the when I when I was the question that,

I, the question that you have, I don't know where it's where it's going but I'm but I think if there are some of the

people who are to open your and they're going to be to be proud to say, to have to have to

just sometimes to just sometimes to put the hand on the and we're there. Even if

sometimes we don't know what to say but to say we're there we're there we're more sole.

Nive Ores you in page, four. Perfect. Sometimes I I say five it's a

day, today, I don't know I'm going to get back. I'm going to give a role in the

question. Thank you. So, you have chosen one, we're not a single question.

What do you have you of your first time? Oh. Is

that you are at last with the nudity? Is that the sexuality is a

taboo in your family? Preferer you seduire or to seduire? Hmm.

Ah. We're like my first first time, I'm not but it's good. You know, in the sense

that I don't know I'm not a sign. Um, um, um, the sexuality,

it's a terrible it's maddie. But I go y'allie to try to seduire and to you to make seduire. Because,

I'm seduire, I'm, I'm poor. It's like in the my relations are many relations have been

by the amity. Also, perhaps that I'm quite that I make poor confidence at the level

amoreau I've suyed a lot of chek amoreau of dating so it's

like it's like it's like if I had an impression that we'd not be able to not so

but I'm in amity I'm really so it's like when you're a guy that's like rapidly

I'm in a zone a friend zone a little I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not

it's like it's like it's like the part of the kind of more than I'mourous

potential we're not I'm doing not that the seducation I'm not pantout. There are you

do the moment where you say okay, there, there I'm saying, you know, it's really

that the other face the first, that I know, that's my my

blessings of reject also, that I know, that he has an interest for that I

am able to demonstrate, to get to get to to get to the

end in this zone that. Yeah. Because like that I know, I see

that I know that I see that What's what do you have to do you have to be rejected? But often, it's to make sense a big ball

in anxiety in there. It's so, huh? Again, today, you know, there a few

years, it was even just when we'd in some that my friends were around me, and that I

were just alone, that I was in a corner, and I'd I don't I don't know, I felt rejected,

you know, it's like if I had an impression to be the last the last the time

to never to never be able to play. That, I'm still debarce to that,

but it's at that point, you know, to just feel that the other

ponged to me and not me and not me, you know, um, um,

so I, so I, so I, so, I've been I've been chomined there's

I'm saying because there there's kind of certain situations in the last year where I'm not had been

my interest for someone at risk to the end of my family finally. For not

because it has made a zone nebuleous between the two so the other

decide to so you're so. And it's a bit me also who who nom-

that I wanted to my distance because, you know, in this sense, I, he had an

interest, and he said, that he had a, it's like, it's like if I'm , it's like,

to be in a position of reject, you know, to me to make in face, that I'm

that I'm, like, I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

so, so, it's, these moments, the choice difficult, because it's, it's the

people that I meant, that with who we had some fun, plus, and not those other. F'all, but I've got enough of time.

But, and then, I'd ever have ever to find out of time. You, I'd say if we'd have, can't even give a confidence in what I had to offer.

It's got to give to the value to your own. Like, you've got to something. Exactly.

You've got not the reject, that. So, so, so, is it's still, is it's still

to, is is that you are rejected before to be rejected? Uh, not. Not time.

Maybe in certain case, but, no, if, you know, I'm just, you know, I'm still quite often let's go, in my emotions,

my mind. If I'm not, I'm open, I'm open to other, and I'm, and I'm I'm of nature. I'm a

amourue. I think to do you. I like that. I mean so, I'm saying, in amitia, I develop

these relations very rapidly, and my my, and my my time, I say, I'm, and I say, I'm to say, I'm

to say, I'm to say, I'm the same, so, so I'm able to be able to go to get in these

emotions that with someone. And, and then, and I'm quite more more more flushed

than I flochee. So, it's like if it's like if when I don't in these

sentiments that, I'm really I'm a bit, you know, I'm a little in a world fleur-bleu

so, so I'm so, I'm maybe that the guys that I say the I'd say

the contrary, but my, it's the impression, no, I'm, I'm

I'm in love, so so, so, but, but, but it's

that, you, I try to I try to learn more to my affirm than just remit

the destiny of a relation in the mind of the other. Yeah. To make deser by

the other more than maybe you desire. Yeah. Because what I'm because what

you prefer to be sedu than you so you want to you want to you

don't, you're not in initiative. No. You will attend the other so it's

like the other who you choose. Yes, it's right. And not you who will choose. So,

you... I'm in a position of an Well, you know, it's because there are

there in these situations there, we can see also some people, I talk by,

by these friends who are a few that, you see, and these times,

I had an impression that my friends accepted that the other

that, that they that they were coming, it's the people who didn't even

not available. So it's like he saboted also something in, I'm going,

we're going to be sure, but it's going to it's not they're not those other

who's not they choicest the amourous potential in all the pattern

he's always all the time and he was he was like amourue

of the love but not of the person Yeah but

I'm maybe I'm like I'm like my amy Yeah, but

sometimes it's long before it's in the whole, you know, I think that when these people are in

it's like, it's like, I'm saying, yeah, but I'm saying, I'm an impression that you're

all the same story with each other with each I think it's that also we're all all the time,

I'm a little bit of that, you know, we're like, the other time I'm like,

why at every every time I'm saying, why I'm making, I'm saying, I'm like,

it's like, it's not it's not my fault, but because you're well in, because you're less well in the seduction.

Yeah. So, you're, so, you're, so, you know, and then, it's, it's, so, it's,

so, it's, they're not people, you know, the guys who are in relation, and I'm like, but why they're going to

come, but why there's not one who are not one who is free and available, that, that, so,

so, there, so I've, we've got to that, why that's that's so that I attire. And,

and, So I'm in presentment, because that's that. Is that, I'm really in trying to, I don't know, I like, I like, I'm not saying, because I think

not say that we're not talking about, because there's all that all right, but there's my psychos and one. Yeah, sometimes I do.

We're saying, that's put to, that when you're not in the seduction, the other way, he's not, like, a relation at long term,

so, so, as I'm not I'm not going to I'm going to I'm going to get to after that. I don't know

just for to have an an amman or something that's not that's not an other opportunity.

It's possible that's it can be that be that's not but you don't know I'm going to do that

I'm trying to get a chum that it would but now now we now now we

now we I think that there's someone who you approach, in the case if he's not a but there's

quite a lot of because I think it's always regularly that there's people that are in these situations extremely difficult

to attend that the other will be perhaps to let someone finally, it's never,

but I've remarked that they're not so they're not in love with the person,

they're in love with the support of a relationship and when it can it's

great deception because they have sometimes, you know, but you'll not say that's that. I'm probably a little there.

But, but I'm often just in my friends, you want to be more than this. You know, you've been

more than you know, because, you know, we're reproach many of the things, especially to women who have

been to during the years, yeah. But these women, often, they're so they're

probably, they're in attance, you know, and it's complex, the non-disponability versus someone who is pre

to engage, it's complex. We'd say that we're not judging person in this... Maybe judge the person who makes to attend who makes a crore who gives the

hope. But perhaps a day you'll be sure you will be seduire also? But there there's

there. But there's imagine. I mean. I don't know. I don't know how it's cross.

You know, we're like, I'm the fun. But I'm not, I'm not of nature seductive, we're like, I'm like,

I'm like, this twist that. And, you know, sometimes I'm say, let's say, you could,

you could, you could, try to try to try to be sexy a little, I don't, you know, you could

try, you know, I'm trying to, physically, you're kind of sexy. Well, I'm, I'm like, I'm really,

I'm, I'm like, I'm, you know, I'm malabille, I think, there's, it's probably because I'm like in the regard

of the other I think, I'm, I'm question not on my view, is what I'm see, I'm trying to be sexy

in this moment, I'm just just live, and you're and have been, you're young also. But I'm

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I see, I see, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure.

You're ready to, You're run to look. There are who's done it in the universe.

You know, you're doing it so it would work more than the universe in the

last question. Max Anx the question opto-resso. We'd say it's all right it's all new too new

so much so blan. So, where you see you in 10 years? Ah.

In that where I see, where I see, where I'm in 10 year, recently

I've repensed to where I had been in 20 time, because I'm, I'm, I'm on 30 years, and I'm going to like, hey, my God,

he marries, there's there before my 30 years if I was going to be there who I imagined a year, but where I'm going to be in 10 years. Well, I'd like that

to be a figure important in the pageage mediatique. I, I, I'm imagine when I'm I imagine all the time in love when I'm

imagine more than I'm even young, also. Is that you see a person or is it a real sense? No, it's more it's a restanty.

Okay. Is that you know with these children? Oh, no. No. Well, but it's perfect.

That's clear. That's clear, it's perfect. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, but I'm in, we're in, we imagine,

a sentiment of liberty when, you know, in, To voyager, d'aventure, can even. That, we'd say,

I think that I have been that I'm need I'm going. But I have a

misery to be a future in the future. In the 10 years, I'll

have been 30- 20, 30. But it's that, we'd have to

have your house to production, am I do you do do you

do something do you know, going to be able to be able to be able to do you know

because you know the thing it's a passion so there's there's a lot of

things that it's well it's sure that I there's there there's

there there's to do do do you're to say that I'm sure that

I'm that I'm sure that I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

the gala of the grand variety, you know, to do have the gala just just for

to write. It's so that I want to have to keep the two aspects of my

personality that I am, that I am, that I see also, I can be touching,

and that I can't, that I'm able to vehicular that, my view, to partage

that. I, I want to to guard these two aspects that. But your

view also, you've an great sensibility human that's

it's what the issue you're certainly certainly already

a easy to understand because you're an encrage in your

in your life or you you're you're in you're in a so you can

you can you can you can you can I'm in different aspects of the

life I'm also I think I'm can't I'm the people

all as to S-Ovry rapidly. But, yeah, in 10 years.

But I don't ever to have my house of production because I'm totally disorganized.

When I studied in TV, we'd say that I'd imagine to be a productor

a day, but put in now, I don't, I'm not. I, I,

and, you know, I'm so, the sentiment to travel in team, but I don't necessarily

be the that who sign the cheques of paris. That's not in my aspirations. But it's

sure that I'm going to do so of the content pertinent and sensible and human,

but at the content that makes do the good, which makes to make

the and and of of all type, finally, you know, like in the time,

I explore the humor, you know, I'm doing the creation of content on the social,

I'm also at the TV, and we're like that all that, I'm please,

all that I'm and I'm want to continue there in in this open to

new things. So, so, what the life will be to me to me

to be to be to be to be to be to be I'm to be

I'm look, I'm But, you know, it's It's so, we're not no, no, more

than that because I'm in a view to rest open to those opportunities that are to present

and to see, and to see, where the life will be made, maybe

in 10 years, I've been to be cultivator of olive in Italy. You'll

participate, the but you go to find the love? Ah, yeah,

no, that I I think I never to make I'm trying to never say never,

but it's interesting, that's true. So, it's true. I think it's my place. I've tried

on the money in the price as I'm well, I'm well, I'm glad to to party at

the end of the sejour. But you're an intelligence emotional that you

permit all that also. You have the talent, you have this capacity, I think that as

when you don't know to hear you on the radio. If we I'd

a lot of TV. Oh, yeah, because I think I've really a voice radiophonic, a voice that we recognize all right, a rite a lot of year, no, but I'd have an envy to embarked in my voice, and to hear your voice, and the pertinence in your

propos also, because I think, yeah, we, we've got a lot of real, but there's something very profound, and you have a great capacity also, to talk a story, and so, we like all the media of communications, you know, you're not going there for anything. You've got already

a lot of things but it's for that I tend to to receive here because I think we

to learn to learn to you know, and I see that's not that we're all right to know that

because we're for long to see to watch and you know, it's very fine,

it's too, I'm too, I'm I'm totally flatted of the invitation thank

it, it's a privilege. Well, we're we're to get to the first

to Chicago and come don't come don't see to open to open to open

We do you? It's a game, we'll do. And I'm like, well, there, my rave, go ahead, and be able to-a-lawier. But you've made also versed some of the alarm because what you've seen, like,

as much, we're telling not that our children live that. I look at my little father, I'd rather tell them not that they've lived that. And, you know,

you've been sort of, it can't be reconforted the people, but in the same time, you've been vigilant. You've observed,

we're observing our children, in the schools, you know, even if we're the very

value, you know, you know, you know, to have a great influence, we'll

have a control, so to be vigilant also face of that. And I think what you say,

the milieu schooler, at how point it can be supporting, at how point

it can make a difference to be to be a part of a community.

Really. But for me, you know, when they they find these couples

in the system of education, I think time to old time, I'm at least

if the prof had been deborded like today without resource you know, I'm, I'm

done some, and when we're doing the system of education, we're we'll cut down to the

young. And I'm that's that we're doing, invests on the next, let's be

in the presentant in political. But you're an excellent port-to- in the case for

to talk to the middle schooler, to talk to the difference because often we talk about

the coup but we're not about the apparel there's there's an apparel of the

when they're there's they're in they change they form the young the society of the men

you know it's ridiculous to not to not consider the investment that it represent

for a society yeah it's not it's not it's not it's not it's a part they're in

the place they're in the place they're we'll partier not these toilets mixed. Thank you, Maxence,

of your great generosity and of this great reality that also that you put. Thank you

to your question. Thank you, Marriott. Oh, it's a pleasure. I said, to thank

to all the world, and we'll see, to the next podcast. This episode was presented

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