Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #124 - Éric Dupond-Moretti | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Éric Dupond-Moretti est un homme qui dégage une grande assurance. Il a été avocat pénaliste en France pendant plus de 30 ans. C’est un orateur hors pair. Il a aussi été garde des Sceaux, ministre de la Justice de 2020 à 2024 sous le gouvernement Macron.Je ne savais pas jusqu’à quel point il allait ouvrir son jeu. Il a eu quelques réserves à parler de sa relation amoureuse avec Isabelle Boulay, mais il a quand même abordé le sujet. Au cours de cet épisode, Éric nous parle, entre autres, de l’impact des réseaux sociaux, des moments plus difficiles qu’il a vécus récemment, de son père manquant, de sa mère présente et de sa propre paternité.Rencontre avec un homme sensible, intense, brillant et combien attachant.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 - Introduction00:27:06 - Cartes vertes00:39:16 - Cartes jaunes00:53:49 - Cartes rouges01:09:01 - Cartes Eros01:16:49 - Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec la version jeu de société. Disponible dès maintenant partout au Québec et au ⁠https://www.randolph.ca/produit/ouvre-ton-jeu-fr/?srsltid=AfmBOoo3YkPk-AkJ9iG2D822-C9cYxyRoVXZ8ddfCQG0rwu2_GneuqTT⁠Visitez mon site web : ⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance.━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le ⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠ et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code ouvretonjeu15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code rose15 au ⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠ Merci également à Opto-Réseau, nouveau partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu.Visitez le ⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques.

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came directly to the France, he is in the Quebec for a couple

years. It's, it's a man of law, it's someone who has

been criminal in France, we'll say, we say an

advocate penalist for more to 35 years, it's a man

that's a man he has been in the cause who had been

very, very covered mediatically on in the course of these years

and he said yes to do with Emmanuel Macron, he a few years for

to become guardian of in the Quebec, he said Minister of the Justice.

He has been a minister of the justice more of four now. Now,

it's an man liberal and he has decided to do an special conference

that I had the chance to see in France that's I said yes

in the sense that I said to Emmanuel Macron for to become a guardian of the So.

And as I have seen, I've had the chance to him of a man of a mo, it's a man

also, I think, he impose something, and we've invited to open your because we

know who was in Quebec to come to make the promotion of the spectacle that he will

present and we're saying, well, he will say, no, I, I've never

fear of a non, but I'm afraid to not go to be to go to my

idea. But he said, as he said, well, Emmanuel Macron, he said, yes, he said, yes, he said, yeah, I'll talk here, Eric Dupon Moretti. Maybe here, here, in Quebec, we know a little

more, so I think that over your job, will be able to know it more, obviously, for all those who who do you know, and you

know, you know certainly, so, we're hard to discover the home, I'm, I have to see, is he will me reprint

in my regs, is what he will me reprint in the jury, what he will respond to all the

questions. It's like a mystery what's going with Eric DuPont Moretti but we're on the

know of the place to Eric now. I'm going to I've learned to live his father, but at

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So, as I I want I'm going to present it, it's really you see a

man to discover a very, very very common, in France. Here, we're to know it,

and we've all got to get to get to get to him. So, Eric Dupon

Moretti, welcome. Thank to me to me to come to you this morning.

Well, it's a great pleasure. I didn't not if you would

accepted to participate to a podcast. Because we of all. And you have this open uperture

you're always you're always to go to the tribune because you talk about, because you know, you have been also

Minister of the Justice in France, that we're called Guardine of Seau. But is you like

to you personally? Of me, no, but when when we when we're talking of what we're

talking about the there's not there's not there's not there's between-gay-and-a-l-h-h-l-h-h-l-h-h-l-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h... You're not...

I think that all right, obviously. Just for that... We'll make that a little resumely, a surveal of your career, among other, why we're going to know so. You're being criminalist, a advocate penalist.

And that, you have done for 305 years? Is you practice the right, or you have, or it's behind you? No, Now, there I'm an advocate omis. I mean, I'm not in the tableau of the order of these avocas.

I've mounted a box of concede, but I'll send out return to barrow. Not all right, all right, but I'll do it, but I have some activities. I'm not, I'm not desoeuvres. There's an activity theatrical. I've written a book that will start next moment. so I'm not

rested and I'm trying to return to barrow to my first time. And you have made a

passage in political significant of four of four year, what, what has done it

to do you presented that's called I said yes and you have said yes, you have said

to what in the Republic to Emmanuel Macron Yeah, he's he proposed

to guard some he's I know the justice of a far charnel. I'm not technocrat then. Not to do

not all. Not all. Now we're on top. Not at all. Not all. And, at all right. And, and I've been

very critiqued the institution judicier. I know these quality. She has. She knows these default.

She's on. And the president of the Republic me don't know the key of the camion. But if I

don't don't I don't even in the glass. So I did, yes.

And I'm going to stay, guard this, three and two months, four, pardon, four and two months. So, it was a passage important. Yeah.

Who, you have already made the scene, but who you have made to the scene with this title,

I said, yes. Yes, because I have found this long mandate that my

compatriot, but I think that's all the all right, they're not what are,

and what do they are their And they're a micro, you've made a micro-trotoir in the room and you're you're saying, what is what he does the minister of the justice or of the interior? And the people, they don't know. And so, I said, but that, it's a malentondenture between the citizens and their dirigent. And I think

we have really been, there, all right, by the time that course, of amy the democracy, to the defend and to the support and it's a message

that's a message that's quite, because we'll it's often when we're in democracy, I think. Oh,

we've got, we'll have, the privileges, that's apportes the Franco-Francy, but we're not a system schooler,

unversighter, a system of health, which has some default, it's right. But when we're not,

Ayer, we say that we're not a lottied. The system of protection social in France is a system abutty,

and the French are always in trying to all the nature. So, a little, it's a bit,

so it's too. And so, to say, the state can not all. The state

providence can not all. And your people are not all and more of the

tolerance of the citizens at the regard of their dirigent. And all that is multiplied, surmultiply,

demultiplied by the social, who are not a critic, that's, that and that's things that are not intelligent. Because the intelligence, she's

exprimed in the time long. It's not a thing that's not a thing that we can write in two lines in a way anonymous at 22 hours of his own computer. Is that you have affected?

Yes. The resos social? Yeah, well, I'll let's not finish your question because it's, yes, yes, sure,

well, I know, I've said, I've accepted to be a minister, and I don't regrett not a second,

but I was an advocate a known, I gained very my life, well, and you you're going to

when you want to you're entering in a function such as that I occupied, that you're

an object of critic permanent. It's how I can you can you know

a way to simple a sound of a row of every morning

and look on the social never person never person never that

this reform it's good that's never so you never and it's

there you can that a word to a more in our exchange in

20 types on the social that are to be this this question

and what is this question and what's this response, et cetera. And we live there, in permanence, in this

hen, he becomes visceral, which is more simple to express that it's often anonymous, and all that is deleterre is grave for our democracy. And and, you know, the democracy, it's delicate, and everywhere.

In the United, in Argentina, Brazil, Hungary, everywhere. And the France know a mountain extremely important

of the extreme extreme left but also it's not to be able to this extreme right is that

has changed your way to talk to talk about in public is you you make the limit

that you have been before yeah you can not say the when you

can you when you are in politics is is that is the abstraction more

than a So I receive a association of feminists neo-guarrier, you know, totally extremist. And there, we know, you know, you have to inverser the charge of the proof. It's a year that now the type that will be accused will have demonstrated that he is innocent,

which is a demonstration, to you as much, totally impossible. Absolutely impossible. And then, it are these principles secular who honor the justice when they let them make on earth and when they respect. If I say to my interlocutrists,

don't, well, you know, well, you'd be certain that in the second, in the second, some, the people who are who know who know nothing at the rick of the right, go in the touboi

media, to say, but what is it to this guard desso? He don't think, in reality, those authors of infraction sexual, completely

of the victim. So, when we make this proposition, lunar, I'm in

an air inspired, I say, I'm, I'm going to think, and I'm not going to

other other things. Because it's a perdant. Because you have had said, not the

first word, but the first syllable. Yeah, we're a, we have the difficulty to use

the words to use self-cure. And that it's And that's difficult. And so, it's difficult. And, let's the radio social, but there's not

only the resos social, the press to fashion to more and more evident to my eyes has vis-a-vis of the politics a comportment

and a, and a, and you're going to see very very much, I'll see that many people of journalists,

you can not to say all the world because it's not right. It's a lot of

the eloges I'm going to the elogame all that. But in reality, many people the journalists

are interested because because it not much. And never there, we don't know, it's not

that's what you have said bravo, Mr. the minister. Because it has made

to reactire because it has been not right. And in France, they've invented an

expression that said, it's very signifient, it's the put a click, to the trick

that's the thing that's because it's there's, so you know there's I'm doing an example

one. I'll say all the first of the I do an interview I've done an interview on a grand

radio which is Europe number one recheted today by Boloray which is

a militant who want that the extreme right arrive to give the things

very clearly and I He said, there is a insecurity. Well, yeah, it's well placed for the

time, it's 32-year- I'm so I'm there's a crime in my country,

there is there's a but also a sentiment of insecurity notably generated by the

chain of information continued. Because a crime declined 50 times

in the same by doing by doing 50 crimes in our head.

So, my phrase, we will have cuted, and it will be for four

years, on C. on the news, on Europe, et cetera, for Eric Dupon-Morty,

he has 15 sentiment of insecurity. Ha, ha, ha, he has not the

feet on this type is disconnected, uh, well, how, uh,

sometimes is treated the power political. And it's that is difficult. It's

an impuissance, you have an impuissance you have It's not rapporte as it has been said, what's

you have right? It's the old adage journalistic who has a false information

and a demontie it's in reality two information. Yeah, because

it's a abstraction and it's hard to look to the abstraction because it's not

a because it's not a complete. But it's like you remitier

two dollars in the machine. You're renonce, so you tase you, you guard your

frustration for you, and you think it, but it's not this system, and we're we're going to get to,

otherwise we'll remit to the oil on the fire, and we'll expect that's and it's not always.

Eric Dupon Maretti, for the Quebecois, you're also the amourue of Isabel Boulay.

Because in France, I imagine, it's Isabelle who is maybe your love but we

here, No, she has She's a She's a bigot of In France Yes, is Is she, she's She's she

She'll have De Lombre? No, but To Lomba You know, But, I'll You know, I'll say a thing.

Isabel and me First, we're very very socied of our intimacy And of our life private We'd

We'd never no Of us. But Isabelle has always It's also here, here in here, here in Quebec. Yeah.

There have no no in shorts and pantouffle in the salon on the table of the cuisine we're not going

we're not that maybe. Maybe we we don't have no way so for the whole

I'm not maybe because we have not a beautiful I don't know but we're not anything but so.

And so it's a so it's we're a bit because because sometimes I'm the

chum of Isabelle and sometimes Isabelle and my blonde but we we don't define not

the one by the other I'll say that Isabelle is an

immense artist who is an intrinsically a personality intrinsically a person intrusely

not of me I'm my life I have my life before

and even we're in we're we're we're but when we

define this one by I'm I'm I've you know I've made

the object of the public of course for the for the I've been innocented.

And then, on the band-o of a chain of information continued, he had been indicated that the companion

of Isabel Boulay had made in examiner. So, two things. That, first,

it's insuppable. Absolutely. But what is also insuppable, is that when I've had been

to get an band-o to say that the companion of Isabel Boulay had been

innocent-ed had been there. There, there is an intimity of our private and an

attint to a presumption of innocence in a certain fashion. So, all that's complicated.

Yes, well, we're, we're, we're very sociue of our,

we have each of our liberty, her, her liberty artistic. D'yer, I,

when I accepted to be a minister, I was the day on the year,

the year, for that, I can't do it, everyone knows, she's, she's

not ravied that I were not to be in the platform. Because she said that we'd see less, by the force of the things. And we've seen more than during this period. It's

she's her who has been in France, it's advantage than I I could not be displaced. There's a certain number of rules. Brief. You've got to be a disposition. So Isabelle, she was not happy to that, but

she had made sure. She has been respectueous of my liberty. And that, I I'm infinitely reconnoisseant. So,

these little allusions, sometimes sometimes, we're in a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot,

it's a lot of, but in the chum of Isabel Boulay. Well, we're like that we're saying, we're,

we know, Isabelle, it's been so long time that she has been part of, you know,

of the space public to Quebec, and it's someone, I don't know to get, to get to,

I'm going to. I'm, I'm going to. Yeah, it's, you know, but it's a lot. No, but it's a very muchment of time, it's good. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm, well, I'm not as a good. Yeah, it's a great-grabble.

But in France, it's not necessarily like that, because she's very common, obviously, in France. Yeah, but, yeah, well, we've got to start. Yeah, it's not, we've not been. The level ver, Eric, this are these questions generic, that I could, the game, it's been made for you, that's a question they're for you,

but that's generic. that it starts to be more specific to your story But then we're normally that's a hand of course

the hand of course we're not we don't know we're not okay okay I'll pose the question but no

but I thought it interesting maybe I'm maybe it's because I'm because I'm think for a cardom

mancien more generic more specific more intimate the question Spaceman is a question for Patreon

that is a place where we have the people the open the open without publicity

no I no I'm no I'm not I'm We've got all right. Patreon, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a bonn, and we can record the episode in advance. So, so, it's for our abodeonate Patreon.

It will have to be a course on all the aspect numeric. Yeah, I think it's useful, yeah, yeah, but we'll do, it's a lot of, oh, yeah, yeah, and Ross and Company, so, it's these questions more intimate. Ah, yeah, I love your smile, I'm already, I'm going to be, to arrive, to arrive, to arrive, there. I'm, I'm obliged, but, I'm obliged, absolutely, but, but, I'm not, but, but, but, but, But you'll see, you're going to choose. No, no, it's, it's good here.

The question, the question optorezo, it's the question with which we're that we're going to, I think, the worst of the question. No, not to do you. No, it's, we're getting with this. You'll have all me pardoned. We're going to be bush.

Ah, absolutely. And, but you have that that who is precious. It's the Joker. Ah, genial. There are any one. One, one. As, as all, as, as you put,

as, as you put it, I guess, I'll ask a new question. I'll have my sous-question, and that I respect that. But it's one you know, you know, you know, you

have applied you know, I've asked quite, you know, I've changed so, so I'm going to see,

so you're going to change the new vair, you can't you can't you put it on the table, you can't

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Five. Right. It's very sympathetic to me concept. Well, that we're going to say, we'll say it at the end. No, I'm going to say, it's like the people who serve a plate and who are, ah, you'll go, it's very much more. Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, pop, pop, pop, pop, up, p, up. All right, we'll go at the 5. You'll give it your opinion at the end. Okay, okay, okay, of course. Okay, okay, okay, okay, so. No, but in the sense that I'm going to be open, if you're said that there's a millioner, we'll do it, on the trade of character have you do travail?

What is your most great complex? What is the importance accorded you to regard of the other what is what is that you're

vulnerable and what's we're you reproach the most often? You have you

choose one. You're in. No, I'm saying that, I'm saying that, not a joker, in perspective.

It's perfect. Cells that. Celle, that's, there's... Doughton, there's there.

There's, because it's always you, the subject central. On what trait of character have you

have you have you have you do you choose? We're we've already in our debut of

our end up that, it's perhaps on the fact that we can't not

say that and that you know, you understand very very quickly that your liberty is a very much more liberal as as a person than as a, as a as a citizen, as well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, well, why,

they're not so, you're not complicated, why they're not, why they're not, so, right? Yaka Focon. There are some professionals, the Yaka Focon, d'all, it's the commentator professional on the chain of Info Continu, H-24, I'm K, Focon, Fodry,

and then you're saying, they're all the solutions, they'd have to do you. The Focon, it's, Focon, it's not, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, it's not the o'clock.

Yeah, it's just that we understand well, you know, it's just that we can't Focon, yeah, there's what to do you have to have, you, there's got to there, there's a lot of experts, there are more and more on the plateos,

they're saying, and they don't get never in politics. That the blah-blah is kind of more comfortable than the action. So,

I've made also part of the people who are, I said, I'm saying not publicly but I'm just replying sometimes like

all the citizens. When you enter in politics, you know, you're you know,

you're not you don't know that you don't know to do it with the liberty that could

be the one, which was the mine in all all the liberty, it's a

liberty to be a little bit there's a little bit I'm doing, I'm intangue. So,

when I saw you were the things written, there, on me, that I'm

that's just, I had an idea to say, but I did don't, what's what you

do you make, and I, and then, the communication at my question at my Mr. Minis, you can't

not have to be not to be able to see what he has seen what he said oh no no, no it's not possible we'll be

we'll be shh we'll respirate no, it's not possible because if you did that it's reparty but how

it's reparty he has kind of he said it's degealous yeah yeah no but

no but we can't and I had been in examines we're we're already

already 30,000 articles of press consens to my to have 30,000.

A dozen only that respect my presumption of innocence. It's wrong ding.

At each time I had always to, and at a time we say, no, no, I can't.

But it can't, but it can't, but we can't, but we're there,

we're, we're trying, we're trying to bring a recule by a Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the tolerance to the frustration.

It's like the psychologists call that. And, I, I have I wanted to, to, and I'm decoudre. But you

am you, I'm going to my life, but I'm in 36 years. Well, we're trying to an advocate, we know that, yeah, so. So, you're

ready to, you assume, Oh, yeah, I'm, I'm, but, but in a party political, on an group,

to know and on of efficacy because after we do you do you don't

do you, don't know, because it's counterproductive which is just, d'all. And if you

want to let's pass the thing, the only way to let's say to let's

not say, what we said there a instant. Is that, you're still like that, you're still

has changed your posture face to the question? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

but I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not She's going to go. No, it's right. But is it

But is a better. When we're when we're when we're we're trying the tolerance. Yeah.

But we're not not but finally we'll be let's cool what. D'yer, we're saying

let's cool yeah. But it's because to always react especially when we're in

the fire of the action it's it's it's it's it's

it's it to always to get this kind of situation Yeah, but no,

there's a There's a lot of there's a lot of Even in your life private, it does change something.

No, but in my private, we're not, in my life private, I'm not in my view,

I'm not, but is even if you are with the same and you don't necessarily the same

opinion, is not the same thing, it's not the same, it's not, but you but you have not made

on TV or you you were, you, you, the invite were, you're there,

you're, you challenge to you challenge to the level of the opinion? No, no, I've made some but the

springtime you received by example someone who was against the and there was signy. Yeah, but

I thought that particular. You have reason to me to talk about that because in reality

why I have accepted to do that because I wanted to we want to we can't talk about

with these adversers political who don't not of the enemy Madame Knafo by

example, who is the family of Zemour who is at the extreme, extreme, extreme, right, well, it's not my tass of tea. I'd partier not in vacants with her. And, for the time, I've wanted to

that in debattant with her, we could do with her, because we're in an end of newance, there's no longer, there's no longer, we're not. I mean, this concept there. Because, like, we see, we're in our opponents, and we're trying to be in a chamber, especially

when we're libe, you're, you're not, you're playing. That's, it's part of the work, you know, of the work that I've made. to be able to debathe calmment in a way impasse without Mr. Loyal for remit a bit of oil

on the fire, yeah, I'm sure because when you're in process, you have to gain. In the life, we have not to gain when we discuss with a person.

There's not no reason to have a gainian and a per cent. It's the great difference in a cell audience.

It's got to gain or pern. And when you do the politics is the interest general. When we're a lawyer, it's the interest

private, there's a guy who shuffles in in the coup there's a There's a There's a

Yeah, I'm but the fact to not want to the fact of not want to respond to the fact

to make a little in his wine, where that expression yeah, ah,

to make some water in some if it's a good wine, it's a pshaw

to make a lot of it's a but they're they say she's what she's she's good,

it is significant this expression it's do it and that I regret not to have applied.

And then the lesson is that we're playing always in reality. Yeah. Those who who thinks

that's that's there's there's wrong. Is it really, but is you do you

do you know the name of the name of this issue? Yes, it's an issue on

Paris which is the name of the show I don't know to see the end, but

it's very interesting to have people who have always different on different subjects and doze

I've been confronted to Emory Carron so he's he wants to the moustic because the moustique that you pick

are the females and the non of the biodiversity you don't know he's not the meat he doesn't

he doesn't not of he's not of he's not he doesn't he has he's chasse and I'm

yeah but the two positions exist so why not why not and why we're we're

calmement no no no no I've put in my this proposition. I'm going to. I'm going to.

I'm going to. Oh, yeah, because you're going to choose. Yeah, at this level that, I'm in choosing. When we're

going to be to try. No, you're not. You don't have to get to try. But no. Hey, hop.

Um, um. I think, I think I'm, I think I'm more of the complex, but I've been

very, very long time, in all my infance, all my adolescence my

adolescence. Petit, I was pretty pretty a booboo, not obese, but

being wrong, an adolescent also, I said at many times, I had

chosen the mati for to seduir and as physically I had not all the

cards. I've chosen the word and of the seducion that the words can generate

and I'm trying to try to profit it's a it's a to marchote and it

has been different in your life in this moment yeah ah yeah yeah

yeah obviously because because I I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm And now, you have done the peace

with your physical? Because this physical, you're doing, is that? Yeah. Well,

yeah, I, I, yeah, I'm, it's Guinsborough who'd say the leader

to see advantageous in a rapport to the beauty, it's not completely con,

it's, I don't, I love, I'm, I love, my, but it's, but,

but when you look in the mirror, what's what you see, Well,

Yeah, I know and, well, I'm accept. The time is a

gentleman you can be able to accept the things. But the beauty, it's not

in the acceptation also. Yes, yeah, the beauty is also

something of infinitely , infinitely subjective. I'm I'm

pretty in peace with that now. And then I'm a life

private satisfisant. It also it's a count enormously because you have not a life private

satisfactorate you're always in quest of, you're in in a good very period of your life

very very big very period of my view so you know so you So it's

what, that's what a new level jones it's it comes to be more specific

ah yeah yeah you're you're you're you're in you're and I'm

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I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to It's four It's five Five, three You know You're probably

You know, You know, You're Reitricy the Chal of In fact, In fact, it's The question

It's that Yeah You have You have more Tick Tick And then And I

It me Parre'd Yeah, I'm Can't We're What is the role of Pair you have

applied? What is the most grand of the thing you have you have to

have you and what are you are you? Well, You're going to to respond to this?

Yes. So, what's the role of Per you have applied? First,

the singularity of the people, sometimes we're on the progeniture and we

would have to be to the identical to one in a certain fashion

and that, with the recule, I think that's a unquieting, because the

a lot of people are completely singular. I have two girls, one, one, who is in the tourism, and the other who is in the restoration, so it's very, very long, all that

of, of a vocation, the right, the function ministerial, of all what you want, and all you want.

And then, and then, it's the I remember of a great regal, to my view, is that we're at the way

the fruit of his story, we're all, you, you, but that's also of the people are

profoundly liberal. It's that when you see, when you see, I've done who, I

have defended and who have comey these things horrible, you're you're

you're going to look in their personality what can justify a disequilib

psychological, psychiatric, a story a littleureuse a type who has been abandoned we know

these stories monstrous but we know also some people who resist to this determinism

and to say that all is determinism is the worst of because that would

it would that would be that that is liberty. It's also monstrue

because we're also the fruit of his history and I think when

we're And when we're Pair, we'll have done, we're doublement and we know, I'll say, I'll

say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, more personally even more. That's what I can

say on what I'm what I'm the role of pair. And then then, obviously,

after, we could longly discerned on what is the transmission of the

value, uh, it's very important to transmit this. Plus than an

heritage or a patrimon. And then sometimes we have not the impression that we're and with

the age, we're saying, it's a very. Finally, we're saying, oh, no, they

were, they were, they were, they were not affirmed, but we they revoed. I'm

I'm in a moment, especially with the girls, I think, he's, you know,

he's, it's, it's, it's symbolically we have to kill the Pair. And so he represents.

And, and it's loisier, and his values, and his values, and what's being opposed

to the poor, we've got to be in unmerdered. Well. And it's all the

It's obligatory. Yes, but it's there the key of the liberty, I think, it's to

take a bit of recul also. And then then after we're after we

see, then, I, there, by example, by example, one of my

guy, I'm a pass my permit to chasse. You pass your permit to chasse? But you're, you're at all... You'd enfutte completely. And when I'd been with me, you know, you'd

not even want to come, and then, and then, well, it's... It's, it doesn't not at a certain number of things that have been planted, and then they make a lot to germ,

so it depends, one is not the other, obviously. Some, we're in the continuity of Pair, and then, then, no, we're in we're going to

for more he returne, etc. And then I've not used to pay,

in the sense that my father is dead, I'm had four and a

what I'm what I'm what I have been an injustice original is the reason for

the reason for the I wanted to have been a lawyer. So,

I've learned to live without his father, but in same time with a

per fantasized he was he he did how this he was

formidable I'm I'm I'm I'm he's very young

he was 25 when he was my my my parents

patern paternell I always said that it's a type

exceptional and and of this point of I think it's more

than an parent more than an pair absent because a

man he is there he is there And he is totally fantasized, idealized and you make very often

an appeal to you, and you have a sort of like that. The fact to not have known his father,

is that you would have been a father, at your turn? Yeah, well sure.

Because then for the whole, you can you can't you have four and a minute in the

new age, like a man be a goodveyor, who regard, who will you look, who is pretty to you, et cetera,

but in fact, but for, um, as well, it's not that, but not that's yeah, well,

sure that I'm sure that I'm sure, yeah, is there has been the authority around you,

often, we've associated the role of the part to the aspect more authoritarian? Yeah,

quite, yeah. Is that you have you have seen in your infancy, yeah,

yeah, because I, I've come had the chance to have my mother, who had my parents, and my grandparents, my grandparent paternal, yeah, they could not

do you know what, it was... What's what they're, what's, what they're, what they're, what's, it's a lot of things.

My grandparent, my grandparent, it were the workers of usines, uh, he had their gamel for all they're trying, the gamel,

I don't know, how you call this how you call this, how you know, it's a special in emmai, there, in which we made

the, the plate, prepare the lunch the lunch, but the box at lunch the bagel we're going to

we're saying we're in we're going to we know we're in a day there's a real anecdote well I think

my grandparents my grandparents they do their gamel they go to the bus they they arrive never and for

cause it was it was a they were they were they they're technically mechanically to be to be used

to work to work to make a gamel etc they're at the bus with their

box at lunch a And the same day I didn't work. It was not the good day.

And my grandparents, they had been a school, but they had a certificate of

education, which was that was a diploma enormous, that we had

over the age of 11, 12, and my grandmair, she was full of

Mo Croazet. When we had degened, she'd don't know a coup of the

de, the vets. Not how you call that my, a vet? She had a guinea

She had the table She had a In plastified In plastified Okay And there She was The dictionary

And I had my dictionary And at five And I I said And yeah That year That I'm

That's not It's no And it And she was And it And it And it's It's

But to way incredible. We're we're talking about we're talking to all all right when I when I've

had used some I'm in the adolescence etc the words I've had emagisn

some of and there and there say we about about about the education etc

that the drama actual is that many that many have a volume

of more totally restrain and a linguist like bentolila

that is a kind incredible he says, the moe is made for pacify. But if I have not the word,

then we bascule directly on the violence. After the moor, there are the coup. And if I'm incapable to you say, pardon, madam,

excuse me when I'm when I'm on the foot, I'm, I'm able to pacify

a situation is an situation immediate of tension, and we're to have something of conflictual. So it

has been a difference in your life? Partmy the things that I have tried to learn

in my children, there's their utilization. Your grandparents? Yes, is what they have lived

as long time for you see that? No. No, my grandmair, yes,

my grandpair, my grandparent, my grandparent, he is more, the year, he's

made sermons, he's made sermons in June, I've prayed that I said that I'd like I'd have my grandparents, my robe of an entire robe of an avocan, but my grandparent, I never had the pleasure to it was with me in an audience, or no.

I can imagine the fierrety that they'd be able to. Yeah, yeah, obviously. My grandparent had reved that I was an instituteer in their avocat, obviously. Because it's the grandparents paternal, so they've, they've also, the deuce of their face. My father is more sure, and my father is dead at least. He was more at his

my father he has been transported by a concert he was he was hospitalized

at Paris and then at the moment to to move he has been

he had been home for the end so, so you were very important for you

oh bah yeah you've been you've been by my grandparents

by my my my parents by my grandparent I've had had been my

my mother there was a family a family Italian, a very family Italian.

Is, is you going to respond to this question if I'm to ask, what?

I'm to do you. Ah, I'm douted. Hey, I'm doubted. I'm d'clock. I'm not

I'm not really because I have not very much to get to respond, and I'm not she said, she

will go she'll go and I'm and I'm don't know and I'm Well, that I I don't use

Because the The worst is to The worst is to Yeah, certainly What's the type of Amourue? Well, I'm going to You're going to

We'll not respond to Well, we'll have We'll have to No, no, but It's because you're You're talking Of course, Is you're a

Amourue That's a If you're Or even? Or, is you You're going to You're You're in

I mean, I like, I'm Yeah, I'm, I'm Yeah, I'm, yeah, Yeah, of, yeah, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah. But it's, it's Romantic,

the poisey. Is it you serve of that for seduir? Well, well, but when we

are more, pardon, but when we're sure, the poise is very important in her life to her. It's

a matter that she's also important in the mine because she declam not the text

poetic on the everyday, like it in her in his activity professional

and then she, she, she, she, she, she, she, yeah, yeah,

yes, yes, we're, well, let's, let's, let's, let's,

last, um, yesterday, no, me ask, I said, I said, Yesterday, we

asked. Yesterday, we're not what I'm in a moment circumsper, I thought, a man rose,

I asked, I asked, if I was , you know, that's what, we had a bit explained, yeah,

yeah, yeah, no, but is, you're the genre, because, because I

understand, you're because, I'm preparing a repop, yeah, to respond to any,

to the, uh, to the, uh, to the, uh, uh, uh,

Yeah, but we partage, we're, we're, we partage the tach the tach menager, but So you're a manorose? One way, But not that rose, because, you know, by example,

I was, you know, before I didn't know you'd be a man sombre. Somb, I've got anything futeu. It's my company who has all done, she had all overpom,

I'd have seen the television on the canapes, I had nothing fute. You know, nothing. So, yeah, I was not a Rose. But we're partage?

Well, yeah. I'm not that's just rose, well. But it's correct, we have

all the nuance. We're talking to nuance. All right, all the palettes that offer the arcantial. No,

I've never posed this question there to be rose. Now, I'm, there I'm choosy

more of questions. You'll have been three, you'll choose one, to which you'll

have to to have to answer and it's all the level and it's not,

I'm malle the plus. You all get to choose the other. Thank you

and there and there so, so what you have you retened of your

passage in politics what have you have you neglige what has your

rapport with the more? I'm chose you one Yeah Well,

I've We've already Yeah, we're We're talking Yeah, well We've not not all

We've got all We've already A bit Aborded the subject What's I've been I've been

A bit Aborded the subject In saying I can't I can't I'm going to Quebec Like I

could be It's a Okay, In fact, I'll In fact, I'll respond to three. But we have a phrase It's not very much That's what I'm saying.

That, when you're When you're in Agenre, you have a agenda monstrue I'm not, but it's true. It's coming too, it's

very late, it's very late, it's not, there's not there's a fine of time and of seven days per second.

And you have to visit a tell tribunal and tell prison. Or tell, syndicalists, or tell minister Estranger, the Council of the Ministers,

the Parliament, all this is a lot of, so that's a lot of, so you negligent your life personal.

And the people don't know. Because he think the people, the people that you're in trying to you're in trying to

you balade there, that's all of the republic, that all that all Because because

often for also it's it's by alliance it's if we're

there's a car, the car is there so the you know, you know, when we

when we're when we know, when we know, when we're thinking I'm going to let's say

I'm going to answer, I'm going to respond. It's when we sit at the rear

of a car and it's Vinnie. Is it that the the fact of the fact of

the time to be in a time you have to have to get the essence and change their penue

and do that yeah. Yes, I'm I'm a little anticipated because you know

for example the weekend I was asked the personnel of the minister of the

people, under parenthes of which I'm because four years for four four

yeah, it's the habits of the life I said they're parted to

you're an infiance you have you have some, I'd have parted at home. And I'd make my stuff on micro-wond, all right, it's

pretty stupid, what I'm in trying to do you say, but to open the port of the micro-wond, make his own and set down, et cetera, that you're in, you're not,

but I'm not the habit of, I'd have been even after four years, to open the trick of the micro-ond, but I wanted

a certain number of gestures, which are the gestures, the people, the people ordinary, but when I pronounce this word,

it's not pejorative in my book it's like, but that's what you're doing before, before to be in a life

normal? Exactly. We're going to make some market, we make the essence and all right?

And there's exactly. Well, I wanted to pay to that and I knew that I had a

fine, in a democracy you're not a proprietor of the place Vandome. But,

but it don't rest not. Even if you know that it's very violent

when it's very violent. Very violent. You're find out of and I wanted to me let me

let me get envaired by an space of a of

deses not not of despair not of desperance

but to it it's kind of I'm abyssal to do be a lot, and then

of a and then you have to be it's all it's a well, I'm going here,

just after that my mission was terminated, I'm I'm partied and I took my

motor, I'm going in Italy there in the berso of my family I've made the

road trip there, I'm parted of Nice to to go to go to the Cote Adriatic,

all the return, 1,800 kilometers, I did that, and just after I'm made at the

picture of the piece to comeble the void. It's done a sense to see as you've been

to live? Well, yeah, we've got to give a sense to this. Sure,

and that's it has been to return also to your racine? Yes, yeah, yeah,

I've had the impression to rediscovered of the things that had not changed

and that I had not but I've been when my when my man, we're going to go to get to be in

Italy several months, and I have found the place that I had

had been with her when I had a feeling that they had not a

particular, there's a sort of part there, in a space

of a bassin with the I'm I'm said, it's

the many the many there's seven times there,

but there's what I mean, what you're want to recoled with a

story, to know of where we get, yeah, to get to get to and so

for me it's important and then it's not to be in the void, no, it's something

that's a violent when it's yeah, and you're not, you're not that you're

not saying, you'll be saying, ah, I'm, there's been there's a little,

so I'm talking about because with the recule, it's not simple, well, sure, it's not simple.

It's also the history of people in in the functions quite ordinary who part to the retrait I'd be content the day I'd get at the page

and then the week the week the next he comes in at the at the where he has worked 40 years

for his coppins because they they're mired in reality yeah because because of

sometimes we're in it's an on the continuity of the but the link

that we have we want we can serve it's It's what we need, too. Yes, sure.

And we're cut, because the politics, it's drastic. I think that's certainly the milieu that's the most drastic in the coupure. Because it's intense,

like an aquarium in which we're all the time. And we're always in an actuality, and at a moment of a moment of the day, we're not doing to read his journal

to every morning and know all the responses. It's exigent. No, no, but I'm in so, so,

I mean, I'd considerate. Absolutely. I was not obligated. I was doing. No. So, what is your rapport with the death?

Well, the more I'm the more I'm more he's intense. It's not a normal. I've had a portage

on Marcello Mastroyani, a monstroteur. Seductor. And he recounted in this documentaire that the

day where he had 60-year-Cof-Fellin, he said, you'll be it. You'll be it, you will say, you'll always every year, I'm not I can't say I think he thinks every day, it's excessive,

but it's a age where we think more than advantage at the finitude. I think that at 40 years, we can think, to times and time, at the more, well, we're ported by the

vigor of the life, and he doesn't necessarily. Yeah, at my age, I I'm going to be thinking. And when you're thinking? Oh, it's a fooling, a tree terrible. You see, it's the formula of Sagan, I love to say, what he's not, it's not to die, it's not, it's not,

to die of living. I'm, I'm a picuriant, and Denise, I love the life, I, devour all that. You're... You're... You're intense? Yeah, and then, and then, and then,

and then, and then, you know, and then, you're a moment. Is you have also scared of the way you will die? Yeah,

well, well, of what's what you do you're doing the death? Not long

thing, not long thing. You can't not me there, a number of cartem

ancient. When is what is that has been? No, but it's because I think,

Eric, I mean, I've made much, many, many, to tell you, with the

specialists, all the specialists, all the specialists, and, you know, they're can even the

specialist, there's things that we can control our our our identity

if there's there's there's, is you do you, do you, is often when I'm

saying when I know, when I'm about, the first question that we ask,

is you have these family who could have , you can't

get , I'm having to you ask this question that.

I'm had had been for two more. But,

it's a great decision to It's a good decision. Because, I I've seen

on the scene at Paris, you have even fumated on the same. I mean, I said to do get to

get to get to my team. It's never made, but I'm impression. Then I'm I'm not.

If he's there's not so long time, so long time, so you don't know, you know, it's for

your health you have done? Yeah, in fact, we know, we're talking to talk with

his own with his children, et cetera, my son has used a book who has been

by a a Mr. who's called LN.K. I've heard of him and heard of him and you'll see how it's a little I've got to

a trick drould. Well, he said he said, I've used this horrible, okay. In fact,

it's an kind of deconstruction of all what you think you think, you think

when you're that you're you have been because you're going to need to it's not right. Scientifically

it's not very. The addiction is infinitesimal. You think that it you permit to you concentrate

more. You think that you defatigue, it's bidon, and so, we'll explain that gently and little

as little, like an espouse it's deconstructed these things that you think you think,

and in fact he you explain in the bookin that if you think that, it's

that's so you have been afraid because it represents a

surprise a few at the lecture, you come to you detach a bit of the machine. And then and then

what is very troubling, is that we say, right the first page, continue to continue to

be in reading this book. That, you know, then you arrive at the last page, and there,

you know, your cigarette, it's the last, we're going to see, you know, you're

never, so, you're like that, and, I've never I've never tried to to stop by the past

I'm going to I'm in two pack per year I'm going to I'm never I'm never I'm ever

I'm sure I'm sorry I'm thinking I'm thinking of that's not so you know I'm not do you know

Is you remember the text of the life I'm the impression that people will want to know, yeah, it

says to it's definitely with the cigarette by the method simple and so you have the

method of so I'm so I'm I'm going suffer and it's for that I but I'm not

because I'm because I have I'm going to concentrate, it's a lot of inepsis. And there it's not

the voluntity that you bring to it's the logic and there a kind of a kind of that's a

fact that it's a first surprise. Oh, but it's the first time I'm talking about and I

I'm going to I'm saying because it's a dependence the cigarette that nues a lot of so that's

there's a moment for all in the life and there's not a hazard. After a 10th of

days, without a very great, a very good fumeer, I'm going to be in front

the coffee when the morning, uh, a dozen of the year, I'm going to

frime a bit, and then, I said, I've already to do you know, but I attend two

years, because I'm I'm saying, if, if, if, if it's, if the

end-d-d- -l-d- and the land-deme-d and I'm, well, it's what, what, the bookin,

what, I said, she said, she'll have offered a year eight years. Oh! And he's in the bibliotheque. And then you're not open.

Mird. But it's it the moment. But it's it the moment. But in the time, you have the testimony of your

son also? Yes. That you've, it's, yeah, but I think there eight years if he had,

it would be not the moment. There's not the moment. There's a moment for all. But is the fear of the most also

that it it brings more of sense? It's not that's, no, I'm not I'm not

I'm not because you're not you know you know you're not you're to get to

you're trying to you're trying to develop a malady liy to I'm 40 time of even a

little bit more so it's it's a mechant a mean a macho a macho trick

Yeah but it has can't yeah yeah sure yeah it's an effect positive

if you have do while to mount the escalier when you do you get to

you're trying to a bit of a lot of you're able to you're at yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, and for the entourage it's great. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It's a

difference. Well, in a show, in a house of a because it felt it

can't when it was a yeah, but it's a little provoke in the

time. It was the people did, oh, yeah, no, but it's

he will not he will not he will not he'll Well, I mean, he said, because the legislation has been modified in France, he said, well, well, we're not on the beach, because today we can't put more fumate on the plage in France.

Oh, that I didn't know. Because I'm not. Because it's not by the interdiction that we're here. In all the case, I'm not, I'm going to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, say, yeah, it's the moment. Well, it's a little bit. No, but eight times. You know, you know, you know, you know, what I've said,

a eight-on in the bigotet I read two pack per day and I'm multiplied

by, I'm used by, uh, ten of euros by packet. It's

it cost to cheer, these eight years. Yeah. So, then you know, so it's

company. So, there, attention. And, there, the decor will be

a rose. Yes, because it change with the colors. Ah,

yeah, so it then it then we're in, like, in, we're

You can't. Like, you're like, you're doing, so, so you're so for you. You're

me don't give, you have four of these questions. There are five. There are four. We'll have done three. No,

but I'll change. Well, we can't, all you know, you'll be precise. I'm, I'm sorry,

now, I'm, well, there, there's because, now, there, there's not,

there, there, there, there, there, Oh, no. You don't You don't know

You don't know Well, the rules Yeah, Well, But no, but if I change the Regul, I'm adapt,

I think, You know, You know what? Well, Don't know it in three. There are more of choice.

All right. I'm leaving, in the In fact, you've been in the option. So, so,

so, what's the importance, accorded you to the intimacyity emotional. Is that you are you

openly openly of sexuality to your family and would you have made to know

to the sexuality at 20 So, we're going to respond to three What I'd say What I'd like

What I'd like to say Today. It's a good That's a great That's a real response We'd say Yeah, well It's good, okay

I'm not sure That's not sure that It's not But, no, but it's my response, and then I'm not in course Well, yeah, but if you did say that you'd have you said, what you said, what you said, what you know, is it

has been 40 years? No, it's not what I said. No, it's not what I said, but, uh... There's a-huh, no. Pardon, it's not me the interviewer, but you know, you know, at 20 years? No. Well, and so, there's a chomimeon.

Well. What's what I've changed? No, but say, I said, I've responded. it's good It's all right In more I'm doing For the same

And for the same And for the same For the same And for the same Is that you Are you Are you Are you

Is it overthe Of your No No, no And you Have you Did you Have you

Your In a Lye But it's not In family No Not But you

But There's Yeah Yeah Yeah But the But the But the

But I'm I'm No So I'm Not not of sex. It was not in these

his custom. Is it? Is it you an have been to have your father?

No, I don't have a souvenir of that but you know, you know,

it's terrible we've talked about about on the social I'm I'm

in France but I think that's probably to see to the pornography

so the pire the part of education sexual, it's 11 years.

Oh, I see. And that's a drama. That's a drama because if the education

sexual demar with the pornography, we don't not the... Not only

we don't not, we don't not, but it's... There's not the notion of respect,

of consentment, of pleasure, yeah. And we see, and we're in the statistics say

that the young do more than more the more because there a thing

terrible what yeah so that contact charnel yeah what

which is an excellent transition for our question which has the importance

accorded you to you know that's what is that's what you

think we're not the intimacy emotional yeah yeah

well um the without intimacyity emotional we're we're,

we're, we're, we're, we're, no? Well, again, I'm not sure

that John Claude, he's not a certain intimacy emotional. No? I've

ever seen turn around the little t'kele, a man a poile d'clock there's a thing with something

emotional also. I think that his little heart I'm, you're very

very far. So, so it's the number oh, you know, but he it's

it's now or never, so maybe you'll use not, maybe, then you have to be

the stat, uh, uh, how many of the people, uh, in statistics,

uh, on, uh, would say, to say, my talent, uh, I'd say,

in bottom of five percent. Uh, yeah, yeah, so, they want, they want to

do the people, yeah, yeah, at the end of that, I'd have had,

I'd, and when, uh, but when, user I don't say violent but it

it's a touch something because that's because of it's always it's

to make to talk and we don't know I think you think to think to think of

the and here we're not there for for create these antecedant

no no no but I think if I think I'd feel for example

mount some like like like so oh yeah why why

it's interesting what you did why the arms? By puddure. Is it easy for

you to you want to be vulnerable? No. You're do it in your

intimacyity emotional? No, but I'm do it because it because it can also

also to make pass a certain number of messages. I, you see, I could

me retire completely of the public, reprint, reprint the barro, my

things, but I'm, but I want to say a certain number of things on

our democracy, on the attention that he has he ported

the regions social, the exchange between the time to

pose the things, the discussion, the nuance, evite

the compassion and it's that takes all the place

in our reflection. So that so that's so much that

I can say that if there a minimum of sincerity and

And that's also for that I'm talking these things But in the same time I'm fix a certain number of barriers On the last of which I'll Dere never

Think you Retourne a day A politic? No, but I'm interdied I didn't, I had very, very long time

I had been interviewed by Madame Crespo Mara She said, Is that you envisagederier to be a minister

or something? I said, I said, I'd never, I'd have pushed these cries of fray. I'd even add to, it would be the

Bordel. And then finally, Emmanuel Macron contact, well, well, yeah,

bien, after, I'm saying, you know, is that you acceptorier to? And I, I said,

yes. So, obviously, we're reproached, we said, well, because

it's a part of the first critiques, because, yes, well, So, I mean, there are that's the imbeciles

that's the same. And then you have to imagine you've said no, because you have said that no longer, it's, it has not to sense, too. No, no sense.

It's an evolution, eh? Well, that's the evolution of etes. So, I don't know to your question, I don't mean interdied anything.

So, so it's possible. So, all right. Question, authorizue, the question. Attention. What's the

little Eric would say, of the man that you are? What is the what the little Eric

would I'm that I'm that I'm to do I'm to do you for

an intellectual there is a formule of Nitch that I love who you

is and so what you do come, it's to choose your voice, Tien

to take and assume it's a word, so verbe that is galvodded all the

time. Assume? I assume, I assume, but it has a real sense this

verb. Here, this point of view I think that I think I did what I

wanted with a lot of liberty and then there a certain number of

things that I've not I've got to do that I'm going to and the little Eric he could

say that you'd have could have been a bit more you're able to push a little the thing

what well the well the the balance is yes I

did I did what I wanted I'm sure better better

but but the route not finished it's it's of the

yes well yeah it's what we can you want to

you want to I would say a thing I'm I'm very

privileged so so it continue so the Italians they have

a very very proverbs who is content a God that

somebody who so he content joey at precisely

well is is the quest of a life to be contented? Ah, no. No, because you can't be contented

in the mal, in the horror, in, in, in, in the mprey of others, in,

no, certainly not. It's not the but it's not the philosophy, it means that it should have

to appreciate to its just value what we have. At the moment where it's certainly. Yeah,

because I'm, I'm, I'm, because often, we're the default, to say, if

I had seen, I'd appreciate the period that's the period that's right, because we're always always there's always

to be there in some moment and to appreciate what we're and not what we're not, because often there's age,

we're the importance to what we and what we and after it's a, yeah, it's all that yeah, it's,

it's all the impression you're a bit in the period of the great recolte of your life? But

Grand Recold It's the autumn You're not You're not even You're going to be And last Yes, yes But I'm

But in advancing In age I'm a bit I'm a bit I'm a lot Personally, I mean There's just There's plenty of

things that I've Not the impression that it'd Not the impression that Their value Their value Professionallyally What I'm doing

But I'm saying But all right It's in It's in advanceing In age that it's in comprehend the sense of our

life? Well, yeah, it's... But it's... But it's... But it's... There are

some period in the life where we're... There's... First, there are the time, we're not at what

we're trying to to do, we're doing, we're doing, uh, by example, I've measured, at a moment,

I'm just a moment I'm I'm sorry, but why I've wanted to be an evocat? Why?

And I've had already Many years of avocature behind me and I didn't make not arraithed on the

why the thing I did. Not of fashion mechanic, it's not what I

do you know, but why because my grandpair has been assassinated my grandparent

and that person has done what he had for trying the an injustice

original because my father is more, it's an injustice original because

if if because that. And all the morso they get in

place as a puzzle but that it's a moment at a certain age. We go,

we go, we go, we don't, we know. We know we're not, I think, the image

that's exactly that's all that. And you mean to say, my

grandpair maternal is assassinated, but for your mother, I can't imagine

what you have represented, he has She has lost his father She has

He has He has He has his and he has lost the father

of his and he also. So, so what place you

in his life? Enorm. Enorm My my my mother,

in plus she had been a family, so she, so,

so, uh, uh, her revange social, she has

had been uh, on the the fact that I could do, she

had not at the school, my my man. She was a year. She was

she was and she had given the chavre and she had quaid to find.

Well, I'm I don't sometimes that we tap durment in my

country on my people on the immigrants. So, the illegos,

people don't have want to be, the delinquent, person no, no, no, want to be in those who are coming to

work for work, you have obviously that we respect, and that we're to have the consideration for

them. Well, that is a little parenthese, but, yeah, my my mare,

my mother, the, the parkour, the parkour, she has been, the,

the, of my Parkour. Is that a Fierty? Oh, yeah. For her, yeah.

Well, it's sure. It's sure. I mean, I'm going to my my mother, when I

know I'm when I'm I'm going to preserve a bit of all that. I've not said,

you know, I'm probably being a minister, I've been contacted, I've been the president.

I'm not, I'm not, you know, but it's a woman that's a 89 already,

so, a cure fragile. But a when I was informed. So, three hours before that

it was announced officially on the per rong of Eliset, I'm saying Mom, I've been a

good news to be an notice of the justice. And you know, you know what she said,

my ma'er? I said, my gamin, who is who is who will

lave your linge? And when she said that, it makes I'm I'm

I'm I'm at the 36th I'm because to find it's

so much this new year that she that's that she rackroche to a

world that I know that I know also that has been

mine and it's it's a way to to

enquess the new man who is who will

have in the And what's you have responded? I don't know I don't know.

I think that's on the voice I mean I'm I'm sorry I'm sure I'm

sure you're going to find we'll be there be a machine to live at the minister

I know I know I'm remember I'm but it's sure that the little

Eric at the question to Tantau is is he could

have this Pett Cireck that to that to come to the villa?

No, no, no. I'm not a Mobeau, who is known for his Clare de Lune. You know like the

Chalde Lune in Mobech that's all about all about all I'm not going to well, well I'm

in a Mobeau. And I've lived in a patlin, a little village, uh, 3,000 abitants, there were not there,

no, there was no, I mean, I I'm a infant of the Republic, I do have all at school to my

grandparents with the words. Now, I'm talking of education, I'm of these

things that make the senseor social, well, after a lot of my

mother, well, but, but, no, no, when I think,

when I repose, nothing to me predestine to, neither to be an evoccur, nor to

become a advocate, my grandparent he wanted that I'm going to be an instituteer it's

it was the institution it was a it was a it's sure that it's important this role that institution

ah and then it's the institute of Pagnol of Marcell Pagnol that's

being the person modest an ouvrier of us who makes a gamel and then

he will attend the bus that comes never the Dimonche, instituteur, it's a thing, well, that.

You're are you are your part of your course? No, if I respond,

no, it's an exercise of modesty to which person no,

yes, I'm I'm sure of my work, yeah. But, but,

there are the things perfective, it, it's not that's much, but I'm

sure, well, I think it's important to do it's Tellment of the difficulty to say that

But even when when someone will say it's incredible, yeah, but you're doing that's we're doing

much, although we're doing so, we're trying to get to work, we're going to some of a time of course,

we're saying, but I'm going to say, but you're to be there in the moment present, not in,

you'll say, oh, I'd have been, they're doing, they'll be they're, they're talking,

we're talking to say, there's a question, there's, there's a , yeah, there's, there's,

there's you're all right. You have remarked, even if you're the worst of the solopards, when you're dead there's a moment where you're a type of extraordinary for that's all right,

to have all right, but to have the two men on the volent of his life and be able to say, I'm sure, I'm living, we're very, so you're fair, so, that's said, that, well.

Thank you, Regisputt Moritzisci. And then, thank you, I've passed a very aggrable moment. Very bad. Thank you very much and thank you, to have been there

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